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- When I couldn't find Karla I
knew immediately that something bad happened to her.
And I'm scared.
As more scared as I've ever been in my life.
It reminded me of like when you're a kid
and you do something wrong,
that feeling that you get in the pit of your stomach.
'Cause you know it was just a matter of time
before someone found out what you did.
That's how I felt.
Because I knew right away.
No one's ever gonna believe me.
- It has been nearly three days
since 28 year old Karla Marks
was first reported missing by her husband.
And authorities are still searching for any clues
as to the woman's whereabouts.
Police are still questioning the husband,
but as of now there is no word
as to whether or not they believe foul play was a factor.
Police and search parties continue to comb
the nearby area, including the surrounding woods
for any sign of Marks but so far
little is known of her possible whereabouts.
- I arrived at the scene at approximately 6:20 a.m..
The first thing I noticed when I arrived
is that Mr. Marks did seem to be genuinely
concerned for the safety of his wife.
He was adamant that something had happened to her
though he never specified what he thought that was.
He just kept making statements such as,
"No one's gonna believe me
"and everyone's gonna think I'm making this up."
Things like that.
Which seemed a little odd at the time.
- I had no idea if the police were gonna believe me or not.
I mean hell, I didn't even know what I believed.
I just knew that Karla was gone
and I was positive that it had something
to do with that place.
- Mr. Marks claimed he left the building
to go out to the car
and when he returned she was gone.
He then spent the next few hours looking for her
before becoming concerned enough to contact the police.
I did the think the whole thing was a bit suspicious,
but there were several explanations
that had to be considered before
pointing any fingers at him.
- How do you convince someone, especially the police
that you think your wife is a victim of a paranormal event?
It almost sounds crazy coming out of my mouth right now.
- I did a search of the property,
there didn't seem to be any signs of a struggle
or anything indicating that a crime had taken place.
And at that point, the sun was just about up
and I was unsure of how to proceed
so I called for backup.
And I'll be honest, from everything I saw at the scene,
it did appear that Karla had just vanished.
- I remember lying in bed when the phone rang.
It was about 7 o'clock in the morning.
I remember thinking it was strange that
the phone was ringing so early in the morning.
I thought it must be some kind of mistake,
a wrong number perhaps.
Nancy offered to get it
and I was already pretty much up
so I answered it myself.
- I remembered John answering the phone
and I knew immediately before he even said a word
that something was wrong.
Some might call it a mother's intuition,
but I knew right away that something
had happened to Karla.
- I still thought it might be a wrong number
til the voice at the other end said my name
and I knew right away it was Bryan.
He then told me that Karla was missing.
- John got off the phone
and he told me that Karla was missing.
But there was a search party out looking for her.
So in that moment I was relieved.
I mean I didn't think they weren't going to find her.
- Once the police started the search
they kept me away from the area.
I wanted to help out but they wouldn't let me.
They just kept interviewing me
and asking me questions.
Same questions over and over again.
That's when I knew they didn't believe me.
- There's so much going on.
Nancy and I made phone calls.
We contacted the media.
We helped with the search party.
It was just a frenzy of emotions.
- You hear stories about people going missing
and never found but,
when it's someone you know,
you just automatically assume they're going to be found.
I had hope that everything
would still be alright, you know?
I...
I didn't realize,
I didn't realize how foolish that idea really was.
- It was after they called off the search,
that the reality of the situation just
came crashing down around us.
Just as quickly as it all started
it seemed like everyone just forgot about Karla.
Nancy and I were left to deal with this
all by ourselves and all we had were questions
and no answers.
- Karla and Bryan met in 2009 I think.
We were just about to graduate from college.
That's actually how her and Bryan met,
at a paranormal convention on campus.
He was there with a group of his friends.
They were all part of an amateur paranormal group.
They hit it off right away and started dating right away.
And it wasn't long before Bryan eventually proposed to her.
- The supernatural that always
interested both of us.
And I guess you could say
it's the one thing that brought us together.
- I knew Karla and Bryan mainly on a professional level.
My husband and I were on Horror New Network,
which is a horror website.
Very similar to what they do so we would
see them at conventions.
They were very much liked in the horror community
which why it was so shocking when she disappeared.
- Karla was in love with Bryan from the start.
You could just tell right away.
And everyone in the family really seemed to like him.
The only problem was Karla's father.
He didn't seem to approve of their lifestyle.
- I knew that her father didn't really approve of it.
But I never forced her into anything.
- While most girls were spending their money
on clothes and makeup, Karla was spending
her money on EMF detectors and
audio equipment.
- In fact it was actually Karla
who had the idea for the website.
It gave her a chance to immerse herself in
all of her passions.
Writing, photography, paranormal.
It was the perfect job for her.
- I didn't like all the supernatural
ghost crap they were into.
I especially didn't like them roaming around
all these strange and secluded places
all by themselves.
I was always afraid something like this
was gonna happen one day.
- He just doesn't believe in the paranormal
and it's something he definitely doesn't wanna talk about.
- No I don't believe in that nonsense.
I think it's a bunch of make believe.
Stories people like to tell each other
in order to scare each other.
And frankly, it's not Christian.
The Bible doesn't ever mention ghosts.
Of course.
I believe in the Holy Spirit.
And angels, well, they're not human.
They're God's messengers, his way of
connecting heaven and earth.
And when people die their soul ascends into heaven.
Which would mean there'd be
no such thing as ghosts would there?
- We were investigating a place
called the Devil's Well in Connecticut.
It's believed by some that
the well is actually a gateway or portal to hell.
- Now one of our more popular legends
is about the Devil's Well.
And it has sort of a dark past
which is why there've been a lot of
sort of colorful stories associated with it.
- I think New England in general,
due to it's location and the history of the area,
it has quite a bit of paranormal activity.
- We encourage our readers to write into us
and suggest places that they think
that we should investigate.
And one of our readers emailed us
about the Devil's Well and it sounded interesting.
So we thought we'd check it out.
- I have never been to the Devil's Well.
I think it's some place I'd like to check out.
I'm a little curious and intrigued by it.
- The well just seemed like a normal well I guess.
The weirdest thing about it was that
it was in the middle of this basement.
It just didn't seem like it belonged there you know.
- No one knows who actually built the well,
but the first recorded information
about who actually owned the property
relates to a family called Woods.
In the early 1700's they bought the place.
It was a mother, a father, and two daughters.
Mary and Margaret.
There was some kind of an accident.
Mary ended up dead at the bottom of the well.
Of course the family claimed that
she had just slipped and fallen in.
But what was strange is that her sister Margaret said,
no, she had not slipped,
that Mary had flung herself into the well
and committed suicide.
- I don't consider myself like a religious person
so I don't necessarily believe that it leads to hell.
But, one thing I can say
is there definitely is a strong
negative energy in that place.
- Now in 1915, a man named Henry Kidder bought the property.
And he bought it because he wanted
to put up a textile mill, which he did.
And it was very successful.
Lots of the local people were employed here.
But there were strange rumors about his personal life.
Especially his fascination with the
dark arts and the occult.
And it didn't help any that he built
the mill right on top of the well
and he built a room around the well.
Very specifically designed.
But no one knows why he did that.
Ever since then,
well the well was kind of associated with
dark doings shall we say.
- We got called to that area a lot.
Claims of satanists, and devil worshipers.
Of course it was the 80's,
the whole satanic panic was in full swing.
- Everything was quiet up there until the 80's
when there was some kind of an incident.
- I never liked getting called to that place.
And on this particular night,
it was definitely something off.
- The police were called,
there was an altercation,
and the police officer was stabbed
and another man was shot.
- I observed a bunch of people in hooded robes
and there's this naked girl
standing in front of them.
And I immediately noticed that she had blood
on her.
I drew my weapon, I ordered everybody to get down
and they turned around, they looked at me.
I couldn't see their faces.
Either they were wearing masks
or their faces were painted.
But I could tell from their demeanor
they weren't scared of me.
They were angry.
I was interrupting whatever they were up to.
I didn't see the suspect come up behind me,
but I felt a sharp pain in my back.
I turned, I realized I had been stabbed.
So I started firing my weapon several times.
I don't know how many people I hit
but one, only one guy, one suspect went down.
Everybody else fled and were never found.
As far as what they were doing down there,
I don't know.
But, it scared the hell out of me.
And not a day goes by that I don't think about it.
And I just always wonder
what happened to that
poor girl
that I had found down there.
- I've done a lot of investigations
and I've never felt that sort of
energy so strongly.
I hope that it's not the case,
but there is part of me that thinks
it absolutely had something to do with Karla disappearing.
- See anything?
- No, not yet.
- This place seems really fucking creepy.
- Yeah it is.
It feels like a heaviness near, you feel that?
- Yeah, probably because the place is so old.
- Or it's all the asbestos we're breathing in.
- Let's hope not.
- Why didn't we bring the masks?
Did we buy some?
- What the fuck was that?
Did you hear that?
- Yes I heard that.
- Hey, take a picture in there.
See if you see anything.
- Ugh.
- What?
- The camera died.
- Is it the battery?
- Yeah, but I mean something must've drained it
'cause I charged them.
- Well just use another one.
- I can't, I left the battery packs in the car.
- Oh god, damn it Karla.
Alright.
- Just use yours, we'll be fine.
- No, we should get backups.
Here, I'll go get it.
- Are you sure?
- Yes, as long as you're okay
with being down here by yourself.
- I'll be fine.
Just go, just be quick okay?
- Alright here, take the camera.
Keep filming.
I'll be right back okay?
- Okay, I'll be here.
Hello?
Is there anyone in there?
Can you hear me?
I know someone's here, I can feel you.
If you can, please give me a sign that you're here.
Hello?
Hello?
- It has been nearly two weeks now
since we first reported on the disappearance of Karla Marks.
Unfortunately, no sign of Marks has been discovered
and police have officially called off their search.
Resources tell us that the police
are now putting the focus on the husband, Bryan Marks.
It has been confirmed that Marks was officially arrested
earlier today in connection with his wife's disappearance.
It's unknown at the time what evidence
was discovered to warrant the arrest,
but if you'll notice behind me,
police tape has been put up around the building
and they are treating the area like a crime scene.
Forensics teams have been busy here all day.
- We did everything we could think of to find Karla.
We sent out search parties.
We had dogs search the building in the nearby woods.
We drained the well and had climbers
go down into it.
We even searched a nearby lake just in case,
but,
we found nothing.
No trace of Karla.
Nothing to support the theory that she might be lost.
That's when we turned our attention
to the theory of foul play.
- Once I was arrested, it was all over from there.
People just assumed that if I was arrested
that I must have had something to do
with Karla's disappearance.
- They had nothing and they knew it.
The town was fed up with the unwanted press
and the department was under scrutiny at the time.
Now I think the police were hoping if an arrest
was made then the media attention would go away.
And the whole town wanted to forget the whole thing.
They wanted everything to go back to normal.
So the police were under pressure to make that happen
and they arrested my client.
He was exhausted and stressed.
I mean he hadn't eaten or slept for days.
And he was scared.
You could see it in his eyes.
I think he was scared because
the realization that Karla was gone
had settled in.
And not only that she was gone
but that he was starting to get
the blame for his wife's disappearance.
- No one wanted to believe anymore
and everyone just kept looking at me
as if I was hiding something.
Of course they had to cut me loose eventually
because they had nothing on me.
But by then the damage was done.
- It's been a while since we've seen Bryan.
After he was released he tried to come and talk to us
but, John wouldn't have it.
In fact he went after Bryan physically.
We haven't seen or heard from him since.
- Do I think Bryan did something to Karla?
Honestly I have to believe that he did.
Otherwise what possible explanation is there?
People just don't disappear without
someone making them disappear right?
So if you ask me, yes.
I think Bryan did something to my daughter.
- John believes that Bryan did something the Karla.
And even if he doesn't really believe it,
he won't let himself think otherwise.
Because it's too painful any other way.
I still have hope that some day
my daughter will be found.
But, it's that hope that hurts the most.
Keeps the whole thing fresh in my mind every day.
I just don't think John can live like that.
I think he has to assume the worst.
So he can move on.
- I'd like to think that he didn't have
anything to do with her disappearance.
Of course, I mean I guess you never really know.
But I don't think that that's the case
in this situation.
At least I hope not.
- I mean they were planning on having kids together.
I don't think that that's something you do
when you're planning on murdering your wife.
No I just meant I don't think he killed her or anything.
But he brought her to that place
so indirectly he was responsible.
- I can't say what happened to Karla.
Any theories I may have would be mere speculation.
As an attorney, I don't think I should answer that question.
- No.
No, I don't believe in the paranormal.
I believe in facts and evidence.
In my line of work it's always
people harming other people.
Not to mention, I spent days at that location
along with several other detectives
and forensic professionals.
And none of them reported
anything unusual happening to them.
- I'm Lucas Baker, the lead investigator for S.I.G.N.S..
Bryan contacted me because back in our college days
we actually used to do some investigations together.
So we have a bit of a history.
- I contacted Lucas because of our past history together.
At this point in time I feel like
he's one of the few people that I can actually trust.
- News of his wife's disappearance
spread pretty quickly throughout the paranormal community.
So when he called I pretty much knew
exactly what he wanted.
- I'm confident that he'll put together
the right team to do this investigation.
- When she disappeared, it was fascinating to me.
I mean there have been numerous cases of people
disappearing throughout history.
I mean they tend to just chalk this up
to bad technology or poor resources at the time.
But today we have resources that far
surpass what we used to.
So I'm actually pretty excited to get down there
and see if we can find some answers.
And possibly some really strong evidence
that we've never seen before.
- I'm Kris Manners, I'm one of the investigators for SIGNS.
Yeah, I'm pretty excited to know we're
gonna be checking out the place around the Devil's Well.
There's a lot of crazy stories about that place.
Who knows what we might find down there.
- Hi, my name is Riley Harper
and I've been involved with SIGNS for about three years now.
Well let me put it this way,
either something supernatural happened to that girl
and the same thing could happen to all of us
or her husband did it.
And now we are voluntarily putting
ourselves in an abandoned building with him.
How would that make you feel?
- I'm Dennis Howard.
I'm the tech guy for S.I.G.N.S..
I'm in charge of the equipment
and examining any evidence that we might collect.
You know, if you ask me, this whole thing is a hoax.
Think about it.
This husband and wife own
a paranormal website.
What better way to drum up a little publicity
than have one of you go missing.
She's probably sitting on a beach somewhere
drinking a fucking margarita right now.
- Hi, I'm Lynn Baker.
I am Lucas's younger sister
and I guess you could say
I am the groups resident psychic medium.
Yeah I don't have a lot to say about
this other than the fact that I have
a really bad feeling about it.
- My name if Kurt Schafer.
And I guess you could say that I'm a filmmaker.
I've done some short films and
a couple of music videos for my brother's band.
Actually that's how Lucas contacted me.
He's friends with my brother Nathan.
So he called me and it was his idea
to try to turn this whole thing into a documentary.
- I agreed to be a part of the documentary
in hopes of clearing my name.
- I mean I've heard of the Devil's Well,
a lot of people have.
I've just never been there myself
and I don't even know if I believe any of the stories.
If I'm being honest, I'm really not
that excited to be going there.
- That's why I wanna go back to that place.
I don't necessarily think that
we're gonna find Karla but,
if we can prove that there's something
paranormal going on in that place,
maybe someone will finally believe me.
- Most of my life I guess.
- Most of all my life.
It's a good town with good people.
- Yeah I've heard of it.
- Yeah of course, of course, we all have.
- No, I'm too scared to go there.
- Yeah I've been up there.
- Yeah, me too.
- Naw, definitely not.
I've never been there and I don't plan on it either.
Just an unholy place to go to.
- Oh, are you guys here about that crap?
Just go away and leave this town alone
and stop exploiting us please.
- You know, after that girl disappeared
we had all sorts of people like you up here
taking photo's, asking questions.
- Kids in high school used to go up
and they used to have these stories.
The stories kind of scared me.
- You know, it's just a bunch of high school kids,
wanna be satanists hanging out up there.
They say they hear crazy sounds, stuff like that.
But they go up there expecting to get scared
and so they do.
But I don't think the place is actually haunted.
- Yeah my sister went up there in high school
with some of her friends and she said
one of the girls that she was with
supposedly got like, scratched by a ghost or something.
- I mean I don't know if it has anything
to do with ghosts or anything like that,
but when I was in the basement I got really dizzy
and I felt sick.
But as soon as I went outside
I immediately felt better.
- Look, what we have are a bunch of young kids
up there drinking, taking drugs,
carousing, they're in an abandoned building
above an old well, that's all it is.
- It's just not a good place to go.
And if you plan on going down there, just don't.
You start messing around with the devil
and that devil start messing around with you,
understand?
- Are we rolling?
- Yeah we're rolling.
- Bryan, you wanna lead the way?
- Yeah, sure.
It's down this way.
- Let's keep going.
- We're almost there.
It should be right up here.
It's in there.
- Okay.
Guys hang back for a second.
Bryan.
Go in first and I'll follow.
What are you feeling?
- This is the last place Karla stood before I lost her.
We still have no idea where she is,
what happened to her.
I'm sorry, it's just a little overwhelming.
- It's okay.
It's okay, take your time.
- I just left her down there.
- Hey, it's not your fault.
We're here now to get answers.
Okay?
- Look, I think maybe this was a bad idea okay?
Whatever happened here could happen any one of you.
I can't be held responsible for that.
- We're all here by choice.
We all knew the risk of coming to a place like this.
Focus on what we're here for.
Bryan.
Bryan!
Bryan.
Hey talk to me.
- Sorry.
I couldn't be in there.
I just...
Feeling of dread.
- Okay, okay.
Take a couple minutes alright?
Alright guys, let's set up the generator.
Let's get some lights hanging.
We got some work to do.
Let's go guys.
Alright.
We're here, it's gonna be alright.
- Hey Lucas.
- Yeah.
- Where do you want me to get?
- Just get shots of everybody setting up.
Yup.
- Okay cool.
Hey, you busy?
- No.
- Can I grab you
for a quick interview or something?
- Yeah I guess.
- I asked everybody else why they ghost hunt
and I've never asked you.
So I guess I'm just curious.
Why do you do this?
- It's a good question.
- Hey Kurt, mind if I grab you for a second?
I need you for a few shots.
- Oh yeah yeah.
Alright, we'll finish this later alright?
- Yeah.
- Kris to Dennis.
- Go for Dennis.
- How's camera one looking, over.
- Naw, it's looking good, picture's clear.
But adjust the camera to the left a little bit.
- Copy that.
Wait, my left or yours, over.
- Camera left, your right, over.
- Copy that, stand by.
How 'bout now, over.
- That looks good, move on to the next one over.
- Copy that.
- Dennis to Riley.
- Go for Riley.
- How is everything going down there?
- Are you seriously checking up on me?
- Hey, I just want you to know that
I got my eye on you in case anything happens down there.
- Dennis don't be a creeper.
- Hey, I'm just trying to help out.
- Alright, well I'm heading back now.
- Copy that, sounds good.
- Hey Lucas.
- Yeah.
- What's your sister doing over there?
- Let's go find out.
So what are you feeling?
- Nothing good.
- That's to be expected though right?
I mean there's supposed to be a gateway to hell down here.
- Let's hope that's not true.
- If it isn't then why did we come here?
Alright team, let's get started.
Riley I want you and Kris to go explore the hallways.
Kurt, stay with them.
- Okay.
- Lynn and I will investigate the well.
Dennis, you know your job.
- What about me?
- I'm gonna have you stay behind,
help Dennis keep an eye on the monitors now.
I'll come get you in a bit
and we'll investigate together.
Give us about an hour and then come meet us back here.
- Sounds good dude.
- Cool.
- Let's roll.
- Let's go.
- Let's do it!
- I mean I'm not hearing anything yet anyway.
- I don't hear much.
Yeah.
What's this doing here?
- It's a pair of gloves.
- They've been here a while.
Apparently Big Daddy was here.
Whoever that is.
- It was here back when
they were still doing graffiti with a paintbrush.
It says pussy cafe huh?
- It says pussy cafe. - They're fresh out
- of everything.
I don't think the pussy cafe is open.
- No I definitely don't.
- I don't think so either.
Come on, that's the best you got?
- No ghosts in there either.
- Alright then.
We'll have to look through these
later to see if anything pops up.
- Yeah yeah, definitely.
Also the silhouette of a naked woman.
135 pounds.
- Well.
- She's got that nice hourglass.
- Alright guys.
- Part of the Pussy Cafe.
- Well no, there are actual dates on the other side
passed the naked woman.
But clearly you didn't see that.
- Wait hold on.
I actually just heard something.
Like seriously I just heard something.
- Meter's still low.
Not zero but low.
- Let's keep going.
- Riley.
- Huh?
- What camera did you put down here?
- Four.
- Why don't you radio Dennis
and let him know we're approaching.
He likes to keep tabs on us you know.
- Yes he does.
Riley Dennis.
- Go for Dennis.
- Kris and I are approaching camera four.
- Yeah roger that.
Riley and Kris are approaching camera four,
make a note of that.
- Yeah.
Okay.
Got it.
So how long have you been doing all this?
- I've been doing this for about 12 years now.
You know, this stuff has always kind of fascinated me.
But I guess you could say that I'm
the skeptic of the team.
You know, I like to think that I bring in
necessary cynicism to the group.
- Do you deal with S.I.G.N.S. the whole time?
- No, I've only been with S.I.G.N.S.
for about five years now.
Kris and Lucas, they were together before that
and they asked me to join up.
- I've been meaning to ask,
what's the deal with Kris?
- What with the gun?
- Yeah, I mean who brings
a gun on a ghost hunt?
- I don't know.
That's always been his thing.
Don't worry, he's got a permit.
- Okay but, you can't exactly shoot a ghost so...
- Who said anything about shooting a ghost?
You know, these places, they tend to attract
some weird types.
You never know who or what you'll
run into around here.
There was this one time we were in upstate New York.
We were at an abandoned hospital.
And we come upon a pack of wolves.
Kris fires his gun in the air a couple times,
scares them off.
It was actually pretty bad ass.
- Yeah, I guess it makes sense when you put it like that.
- You know, to be honest,
I'm happy he has it with him tonight.
- Why's that?
- I'm not sure that any of us trust you.
- Check it out.
- Huh?
- See.
A door.
- It's a very industrial door.
Whoa!
- Holy shit.
- What, what's in there?
- Look at this.
- A big piece of machinery.
- This thing's huge.
- There's two more of 'em.
Holy shit!
What the fuck?!
What do you think about this place?
I mean like in general.
- It definitely has a weird vibe, I'll give it that.
- A weird vibe?
It's no weirder than any of
the other places we've been in.
- I'm pretty sure this is worse.
- Really?
- Yeah.
- Why?
- I don't know,
there's just something in the air
it's like really unsettling.
- You don't really think that well in there
is a portal to hell do you?
- I can see why people would think that.
- Why, 'cause it's in a dark and creepy basement?
- Exactly.
- Come on.
I mean if you think about it,
like really think about it,
heaven is always in the sky right?
And hell's always in the ground.
But we know that if I start drilling a hole right now
I'm not gonna get to hell.
It's not really true.
So like, why does a portal to hell
have to be in the dark in a creepy basement?
Couldn't it be anywhere?
- I mean maybe that's your answer.
People associate the sky with heaven
and hell with being underground.
So if there is a portal to hell
it's gonna be in a place like this
because it's exactly where people expect it to be.
- So, you're saying
that if that well was a portal to hell,
it would appear in a place like this
precisely because that's where we
would expect it to be?
- Kris that's exactly what I just said.
- That's interesting.
Very interesting.
I still don't think it's a portal to hell.
- Think what you will.
Look, is that not hair or is that
just really dusty spiderwebs?
I can't tell.
- It might be a hair.
Why would there be hair on that?
- I don't know.
I can't tell.
- Is that you?
- Did you hear that?
Is that you?
Is it going off?
What's in there?
- Can you see in there?
- No it's just dark.
- Is your meter still going off?
- No, it stopped as soon as I...
- This is--
- It's going crazy.
- Is there anything in your photos or anything?
- Check it.
- Let's see.
- Oh shit, it stopped.
- Hold on.
- No.
- Nothing.
- Nothing.
- Got something to report.
Radio Dennis and let him know.
- Alright.
- What is it?
- There's definitely a strong concentration
of energy right here.
Dark energy.
- EMF is normal.
- Feel over this, it's colder over this well
than it is in the rest of the room.
You feel that?
- Yeah, I do.
I'm gonna take the temperature of the well.
Lucas to Dennis.
- Go for Dennis.
- Can you give me a temperature readout of the room?
- Standby.
Yeah, your room is reading at a steady 61 degrees.
- Copy that, I'm gonna take a thermal reading of the well.
Standby.
The well is reading at 43 degrees.
Once again that's four three degrees.
Over.
- Copy that, 43 degrees.
- It's kind of strange right?
- Well, the water's cold
so the well is probably reading colder.
- Yeah but, that's almost a 20 degree difference.
- Yeah but the water's probably
coming up from pretty deep.
So I don't think it's anything to
really get worked up over.
- I feel like there's someone here with us.
A woman.
Or a girl maybe.
Ugh, I hear a woman screaming.
Several women.
There's something else.
I feel
a male presence too
but his energy is...
It feels like they're being controlled by him
in some way.
He does not feel human, he feels...
The girl, the first girl who jumped in the well,
I feel her.
- Well what about that recording
that the crime scene woman took?
- What about it?
- What are your thoughts on it?
I mean she's a third party,
she has nothing to gain from any of this so what?
- Well she made that recording after they
drained the well right?
- Yeah.
- Alright, then it's probably just air
rushing out of the hole and distorting the mikes.
- Yeah, I guess that's a possibility.
- Is there someone here with us?
I can feel you.
- Call their name.
Mary, Mary Woods.
- Mary.
Is that you honey?
It's okay if you want to talk to me,
I'm here to help you.
- What is it?
Lynn.
Lynn what's wrong?
- Get out get out!
- Lynn, Lynn Jesus.
Lynn come back to me!
Lynn are you okay?
What the fuck happened?
- Oh god.
Something,
something got inside me.
Where are you?
Something got inside me.
- Okay.
Okay alright, let's get you in the other room.
- What the hell was all that screaming about?
- I don't know.
Something happened to Lynn in there.
- Here, sit her down.
- Here, keep recording.
How are you feeling?
- Sorry, I had to get out of there.
Whatever is in there overpowered me.
- Okay look, what exactly happened in there?
- I'll play back the recorder.
- Mary.
Is that you honey?
- Stop, right there.
Did you hear that?
It sounded like growling.
Play it back.
- Mary.
Is that you honey?
- Right there.
- Yeah, yeah I heard it that time.
- There is definitely something else
in there with us.
- Look, let me put it through a few filters,
clean it up, see exactly what we're dealing with.
- Alright, work on it.
I'm going back in there.
Bryan, you're coming with me.
- Okay.
- Lynn you stay here with Dennis until you feel better.
- Okay.
- Let's go.
- No sign of anybody down here huh?
- No it's pretty quiet.
- Yeah pretty quiet.
- Watch your head guys.
- Thanks.
Doing alright Kurt?
- Yeah, I'm doing alright I guess.
- What do you think about all this?
- Honestly I don't know.
It's not really my thing.
- It's not your thing?
- Yeah.
- Then why did you agree to come along?
- I don't know.
I don't know, Lucas just called me
and asked me to do this documentary.
I really didn't know I was gonna
be coming here with you guys.
- Are you serious dude?
- Yeah I'm serious.
- Holy shit.
So you don't believe in ghosts or are you scared of 'em?
- Maybe a little bit of both I guess.
I don't really know.
- Oh come on, go outside...
- Whoa, whoa, whoa, what is it?
What is it?
- Shit!
- Fuck!
I swear I saw somebody.
They looked like they walked across the hallway
and came into this room.
Hello!
Hello!
- Riley to Dennis.
- Go for Dennis.
- Yeah, is there anyone else in the hallway
or the rooms with us?
- Nothing.
- No, everyone's down here, why?
- Kris thought he saw movement in one of the rooms.
So just keep an eye out.
- Copy that, I'll keep my eyes open.
- I swear I saw something, it looked like a person.
- I know, I believe you.
- What do you wanna do?
You wanna stay down here and look around some more
or do you wanna go back?
- No, let's stay here.
We might be on to something.
Why don't you double check in here,
look around, and I'm gonna go this way with Kurt.
- Alright I'll cut across here,
you go around, I'll meet you guys on the other side.
Be careful.
- Do you actually think he saw something?
- I mean, Kris fucks around a lot
but he takes his work seriously.
- Oh shit! - Oh my god!
- Kris!
Kurt what happened?!
- What happened, what happened?!
- I don't know.
- You alright, you alright?!
- No, something pushed me man!
- Hey, you sure you didn't trip?
- No I didn't trip.
- Are you sure you didn't trip?
- I didn't fucking trip alright.
Something like pulled me to the ground.
I wanna head back with the others.
- Dude, you can't go anywhere.
You've got a job to do.
Just wait a second!
- No no you wait a second!
Fuck it, fuck it, I'm out.
- Hey!
- Kris just let him go.
- Kurt!
Kurt! - Let him go.
- Fuck this shit man, fuck.
This is fucking bullshit.
Where the fuck am I going?
I don't know where the fuck I'm going.
Oh god, where the fuck is this huh?
Okay okay okay okay.
Fuck!
What the fuck was that?
Okay, oh fuck.
Kris!
Riley!
Oh shit!
I thought they were in here.
This room?
Fuck.
Hey where are you guys!
- Hey.
- Oh shit.
- Where the fuck are you going man?
What the fuck are you doing?
- What's wrong?
- I fucking saw somebody,
- Calm down, calm down.
- At the end of one of the hallways.
- Okay.
- No you guys were right,
there's like somebody down here or something.
I got it on the camera, I got it in the camera.
I'll show you guys.
- Alright, we're gonna go check in
with Dennis and the crew and then see the footage.
Let's go.
- Take a breath, let's go.
- Alright, alright, alright.
Dude, you guys are right dude.
There's somebody here.
Something down here, I don't know.
Shit.
- But you got it, you got it on camera?
- Yeah, it's on the camera.
I'll show you the footage when we get there.
- God damn it.
You feel anything?
- Yeah.
It's almost like there's
some kind of heavy weight bearing down on me.
You don't feel that?
- No.
- I mean, Lynn seems to be convinced
there's something in here.
Is she usually right about this kind of stuff?
- I've never seen her be wrong before.
- I don't know if that's a relief or not.
- Hey guys, we got something to look at.
- What's going on?
- Kurt got pushed in the hallway
and he also caught someone on camera.
- Whoa, whoa, whoa, what do you mean?
- He said he got pushed, I think he tripped.
- Are you sure you didn't trip?
- No, he got pushed.
- She saw it, she was there. - I was there, I saw it.
- Did you see it?
- My back was turned.
- I'm telling you, something like pushed me to the ground.
It doesn't matter.
I got footage of like,
I don't know, I think it's somebody in the hallway.
You guys should see it alright.
Just hold on.
- Look, do I believe something is happening here?
Yeah I believe you, it's just,
the whole point was to come down here and get proof.
Static on a digital recorder is not enough.
I need more.
- Do you think it's possible
this well is a gateway to hell?
- Look, I don't believe in heaven or hell.
Not in the traditional sense anyway.
I believe in energy.
Energy is something that you can measure
and that you can feel.
And there's a clear distinction between
positive and negative energy.
And certain places tend to act as magnets,
like this well.
But for whatever reason,
maybe because of all the dark things
that have happened here, you guys
are feeling a lot of negative energy.
I need more.
I need evidence, I need to be able to prove it or...
- Fuck!
Right there!
- What the fuck was that?
- See that!
That was somebody in the hallway with me alright.
- That's not one of us.
- It's a person.
- I swear to god.
- Wait, radio Lucas.
Tell him to get there.
- Dennis to Lucas.
- Go for Lucas.
- Lucas I think you need to come down here,
Kurt has something you need to look at.
- I'm on my way.
Stay here okay.
Don't stop filming.
- This is not good.
- Okay what do you have?
- Hey, you gotta see this.
- Come here.
Okay, I have to show you, hold on.
- Okay.
- Okay alright.
Alright I'm going down the hallways.
- What?
Hello?
Oh my god.
Karla.
Karla.
- Oh fuck!
Right there, you see that?
You see that?
There was somebody in the hallway with me.
- Play it again.
- Okay hold on.
- Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
something, something is going on with camera one.
- Kris with me, Kurt let's go.
Kurt let's go!
- Karla.
- Oh shit.
Is that her?
Shit, is that her?!
- Hey. - What the fuck?
- What's she doing?
- Karla, my name is Lucas, Lucas Baker,
I'm here to help you.
Do you understand?
- Karla hey, hey it's me.
- Go easy.
- It's Bryan.
Are you okay?
Can you talk to me?
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
Are you okay?
- Go get a blanket, or a coat, something!
- It's okay.
- Where the hell did she come from?
- I don't know, I went out
for two seconds, I come back and she's standing there.
Hey!
- What the fuck is going on?!
- It's Karla!
- What?!
- Karla's in the well room.
- Are you serious?
- What the fuck!
- Okay Kris come here.
Alright, come upstairs, pull the van around, call the cops.
And take a camera with you.
- Camera?
- Take the god damn camera!
- Okay!
- And that goes for everybody else!
I don't know what the fuck is going on here--
- I need to talk to you.
- Not now.
- Yes now.
- Fuck.
- I'm gonna stay with them.
- What is it?
- Hey look, could you just get that
out of my face for a second?
- No, no, document everything.
Look, make it quick because I wanna
get back in there and talk to her.
- That's what I wanna talk to you about.
Don't you think this whole thing
is a little too convenient?
You leave him alone in that room
and she just magically appears?
- What are you saying?
- I'm saying that this is some sort of a hoax
or a set up, I don't trust it.
Lucas just think about it.
Everything that has happened down here
has a rational explanation.
We are being fucked with.
- All the more reason to record everything.
Okay, either we are witnessing some amazing
paranormal event or we the victims
of some elaborate hoax.
Either way, I need evidence.
- Fuck.
What the fuck?
Who the fuck locked this?
Fuck!
- You know what,
set up some cameras in here
because I wanna talk to her before the cops arrive.
- We need to wait on the police
and let them sort this out.
- No, no.
Because if this is actually paranormal
the police aren't gonna know what to do with it
and they'll sweep it under the rug.
This is our chance to actually
find out what happened to that girl.
This could be big.
- Lucas!
Lucas!
We got a problem man.
We're locked in here.
- What do you mean locked?
- The door we came in, it's locked.
- You sure?
- Yeah, it's locked man!
- This is what I am talking about.
There is something going on down here
and I don't think it's paranormal.
- What do you mean?
You think Bryan did this?
Why would he do that?
- Because this whole fucking thing was planned.
- When would he have done this?
You were with him most of the time.
- And where the hell did she come from?
And don't tell me that fucking hole
because I'm not buying it.
- Okay, okay Kris, find us another
way out of here, that couldn't be the only door.
- Yeah.
Alright, alright man, come on.
- Dennis, Dennis, you may be right
but the only way I'm gonna find out
is if I talk to that girl.
Agreed?
- Fine.
I mean we're stuck down here
we might as well do something.
- Good.
Okay I'm gonna talk to Bryan.
You set up the cameras.
Has she said anything yet?
- No, nothing.
- Alright, let's get her up in the other room.
I need to talk to her.
- What?
No.
She's not acting like herself.
- Well that's the whole point.
I need to know if she's acting at all.
- What are you talking about?
- Don't you think it's a little convenient
that you're down here by yourself
and then she just suddenly appears?
- I get it.
So what, you two think this is just
some big fucking hoax or something?
Let me tell you something.
Last year my life's been a god damn nightmare.
Okay I had no idea where my wife was
and everyone's looking at me like I had
something to do with it.
Do you have any idea what that is like?
Now she's back proving that I didn't do anything to her
and what?
You guys wanna stand here and accuse me of
staging this whole thing?!
- Listen, it is a possibility that we have to consider.
- Oh fuck you man, I trusted you!
- Hey!
Listen okay, I believe you.
But there are a whole lot of other people
out there that won't and this may be
your only chance to stop the accusations
before they even start.
And you know that they're coming.
Without any proof of what happened down here,
nobody's gonna believe anything.
Let me talk to her.
- Fine.
But I wanna be in there when you do it.
- Absolutely.
Set up the cameras.
- Hey, I'll take you to the other room now okay.
- Are we rolling?
- Yeah we're rolling.
- Dennis do you have a visual?
- Affirmative.
- Good.
Keep an eye on us
and radio if anything unusual happens.
- Copy that.
This is bullshit.
- You really think this is all fake?
- Yeah I do.
- Well then why the hell would they bring us down here?
- We come in here, they start screwing around with us,
we claim that this place is haunted,
there, we just validated their story.
- But there really is something going on.
- You don't know that for sure Riley.
- Kurt got pushed, Kris and I saw movement in the hallway,
we got something on camera.
- And all of that can be rationally explained.
This place has been hyped up.
We can't let it get into our heads.
Look, there may be very well
something paranormal going on here.
All I'm saying is I don't think
anything happened to Karla.
Think about it.
Just take a step back and think about it.
Did she just go to hell and now she's back.
- Well where the hell did she come from then?
- Can you tell me your name?
Do you remember your name?
It matters to me.
I need you to tell me your name.
Bryan, if you say one more thing,
we're through here and you're on your own.
Understand?
I need you to tell me your name.
- We should radio Kris.
He's been gone for a while.
- There's someone here.
- What?
Where are you going?
I should follow her.
She shouldn't be alone.
- Take a camera.
- Lynn!
- Why doesn't it matter?
What do you mean this world?
Do you know where you are?
- Lynn wait.
Where are you going?
- They're coming.
- What?
Who?
What are you talking about?
- They're coming.
- Lynn you're scaring me.
Where are you going?
- Do you know how long you've been gone for?
You don't know you've been missing?
In this building?
What have you been doing?
Waiting for what?
Who?
- Dennis to Riley.
- Shit!
Lynn wait!
What is it?
- I just saw movement by camera five.
I need you to go check it out right now.
- No, Lynn is acting weird.
Lynn wait!
She's acting weird, I should stay with her.
- Lynn will be fine.
If there is somebody else down there
we need to know.
- Look, call Kris.
Lynn, where are you going?!
Come back.
- Kris is nowhere near there,
just go check it out.
- Lynn wait, stop!
Damn it!
- What the hell is that?
Kurt.
- Yeah.
- Check it out.
- Okay.
- Dennis I don't see anybody here.
- Dennis, Dennis, shit!
Oh fuck.
- Dennis do you copy?
- Oh fuck.
- Hello.
Hello Dennis.
Riley to Dennis.
- How long were you in that room for?
Why not?
Was anyone else in the room with you?
Who?
Who is him?
The one who is coming for?
Does he have a name?
- Kris to Dennis.
Kris to Dennis.
Kris to Riley.
Kris to Riley.
Can anybody hear me?
Fuck.
- Who has come for you?
Who has come for you, tell me?!
- Fuck.
Fuck fuck.
- What the fuck is going on out there!
- Fuck fuck!
- Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, please please.
Wait, wait, wait.
- Tell me what the fuck is going on.
I know you know.
I am fucking done playing games here!
- Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, no no!
- God damn it Karla I know you know what's going on,
tell me right now!
- Some people, when they hear
a noise in the middle of the night,
are quick to assume that it's a ghost.
When in reality they should be more concerned
about somebody being in the house
who wants to cause them harm.
That's what we have here.
People murdering people just like every
other case I've ever worked on.
Now, I'll be the first to admit
that those tapes raise a lot of questions.
And until we find Karla or the
other people on those tapes,
those questions will not have answers.
But I'm more than certain that when
we do find those answers,
they will not be paranormal.
- Lynn and I grew up in a haunted house
and with a single mother
who had two jobs, that was not easy
for her dealing with kids who were
scared of ghosts all the time.
So we had to find some other way to deal with it.
Lynn could always see and feel things that I couldn't so
I did what I could.
I researched, I delved into any book about the paranormal
trying to find some sort of scientific explanation
for what was happening.
I became obsessed.
Trying to prove that it
wasn't just my imagination
and I wasn't just scared of nothing.
I went to college, I started S.I.G.N.S.
and we've been working on it ever since.
- After high school I went and joined the corp.
I did two tours in Afghanistan.
I didn't see any really crazy combat
but you know, it makes you think about these things.
You know, life after death, ghosts, whatever.
I came back and after a little while
I reconnected with Lucas and I think he
could tell that I was kind of floundering.
And needed something to do.
So he offered me to tag along.
And I fucking loved it.
It turned into a permanent position.
That's a great way for me to get my kicks,
get the bills paid, maybe answer some questions.
- I used to have an imaginary friend
when I was a kid.
Or at least that's what my parents called him.
He was this little boy who would
come visit me in my room.
And then my parents, as I grew up,
convinced me that he wasn't real.
And I eventually stopped seeing him.
So I guess I got involved with paranormal
investigations as a way to reconnect with my childhood
and to prove to myself that he was real
and not a result of an overactive imagination.
And it also reminds me of a better time in my life.
- I'm not like the others.
I didn't grow up in a haunted house.
I didn't see ghosts when I was a kid.
In fact, I've seen very little
in my life that I would actually
call paranormal.
My brother William
claimed that he was possessed by a demon
that was trying to control his mind.
And he was also a diagnosed
severe schizophrenic.
Then he killed himself when he was 23.
So I began
investigating the paranormal.
Because if there was even a 1% chance
that my brother was telling the truth,
then I owed it to him to find that truth.
But until I am presented with absolute proof,
I remain skeptic.
- As a kid I didn't really understand
what was happening to me.
And it didn't help that
my mom didn't believe me.
And then Lucas had the idea to start this group and
that was the first time really that I felt
valued for what I had always thought of
as something that made me different.
For the first time I wasn't really alienated
from a group, I was a part of a group.
And that was nice.
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