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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,271 Let's just be real quiet 'cause there's a lot of wind today. 2 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:02,792 - I hope I get a big one. - Are you ready to shoot a big one? 3 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:04,957 - Yeah. - Well, we're gonna try. 4 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:06,958 Looks like there are some deer back there. 5 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:08,514 Yeah, there's deer everywhere. 6 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:12,474 A pretty good one. 7 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,592 Do you think I could shoot that one? 8 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,792 We have to be able to age him. 9 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:23,153 We have to be able to tell how old he is before we can make that decision. 10 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,193 He's gonna walk up there if he's curious. 11 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,270 - Well, those are two bucks right there. - Yeah, that's a good one. 12 00:01:43,960 --> 00:01:47,874 OK, just get comfortable and get ready. Take your time. 13 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,038 Aim just to the right leg of the feeder, OK? 14 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,756 You can wait if you want, but that's a shelter shot right there. 15 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:00,872 Right. 16 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,038 You put him down, son. Where's that spike? 17 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,919 - He's getting up, Dad. - He's not going anywhere, don't worry. 18 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,838 - You killed the doe. - That's a spike. 19 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,077 OK, let's go. Hold that. 20 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:21,560 Yes! 21 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,912 Are your hands shaking? Alright, let's go. 22 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,591 Good job, buddy. Look at the horns on this guy. 23 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,555 Whoo! Look at that. Wow, that's a textbook shot, Jasper. 24 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,752 Hold this gun like this. 25 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:45,870 - How's that? - Feels good. 26 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,117 Now, the head up like this, OK? 27 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,198 'Cause if it's down, it doesn't look right. 28 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:57,200 Let's try that. OK. That's what we want right there. 29 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,313 Smile. First trophy buck. 30 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,789 Like this. Turn. One more. Just smile. We're done. 31 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,236 OK. As they say, that's history. 32 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,990 No more doe and spike culling for you. You're on to the big trophies. 33 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,712 Hold the head. 34 00:04:21,280 --> 00:04:23,192 One, two, three. 35 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,519 Short deep breaths. 36 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,109 Nitro and blood reading's good. Stable. 37 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,996 Where's the brush? The brush? 38 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,910 - Injecting. - Yeah. 39 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,151 Better run. It's on its side now. Let's go. 40 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,391 The operation goes very quickly. It's painless. 41 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:26,238 Probably less danger than a human being having its wisdom tooth out. 42 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,918 He will be back with his friends within minutes. 43 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:35,796 It'll take about two years before he goes through the same procedure again 44 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:40,392 and we know that the poachers prefer rhinos with long and pointed horns. 45 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,271 Every two years to save his life. 46 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:47,189 I think if he had an opinion to give to you, he would say, 47 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:53,590 "I'm very happy to sacrifice my horn in order to save my life." 48 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,997 There he is, already walking normally. He looks fine. 49 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:31,199 I truly believe that I have the recipe to save the rhino from extinction. 50 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,836 Sell the horns, keep the rhinos alive, and breeding more and more. 51 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:40,876 I will give you a challenge. Give me one animal that's gone extinct 52 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,232 while farmers were breeding it and making money out of it. 53 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,080 There's not one. Not one. 54 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:24,233 That's a dorper lamb. That's what we do. We raise babies. 55 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,552 We feed 'em, we keep the predators out of 'em 56 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,390 and we try to breed good genetics 57 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,552 and try to raise the next generation. 58 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:38,749 Alright, I've got your friend, your little brother. Go. 59 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,076 And so those lambs will be three months old when they're weaned 60 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,079 and they will go to a small packer in central Texas, 61 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,197 and that lamb will be harvested 62 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,552 and typically will go into your high-end grocery chains 63 00:08:49,680 --> 00:08:52,240 and then to a few specialty restaurants. 64 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,879 I think we have a problem with people thinking that all animals are pets. 65 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,354 I don't think you can explain that. 66 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:09,400 You raise a chicken to kill a chicken to eat a chicken. 67 00:09:09,560 --> 00:09:12,837 If they can't understand that, that's an infantile frame of mind. 68 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,316 I don't know how to get in their mind. 69 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:19,912 All I can tell 'em is I love raising these animals. I love those lambs. 70 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,635 Even the ones that are gonna be somebody's lamb chops 71 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,673 this summer for July 4th. 72 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,031 But that's what they're for. They're not for anything else. 73 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,038 We don't care how it looks, we just want the big one. 74 00:09:58,680 --> 00:10:01,036 Pull him. To the side, guys. 75 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:03,790 One, two, three. 76 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:10,110 Keep him on the grass. 77 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,194 Pull him. 78 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,357 Keep it on the grass. 79 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,351 You are closing his nose. He must breathe. 80 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,512 You can't put your hand there. 81 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,791 Let me close your nose also. 82 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,160 Yes, 3.5 meters. 83 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:03,953 OK, thank you, guys. 84 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,437 Well, there's a big industry in our country, not just the crocodiles. 85 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,831 The lions, the sables, the buffalo. 86 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,953 Everything has been bred for a purpose at the end of the day. 87 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,434 So, yeah, sure, some of them will be hunted. 88 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,992 We are, as humans, going to eat it or we're going to use the skins, 89 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,191 and then that's the cycle of life. 90 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,277 Did one escape? John, John! Call John! 91 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,992 Bring the rope! 92 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:38,600 - Hello. - Hello, Christo? 93 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:39,790 Yes. 94 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,670 I want to know if you do hunting? 95 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,752 Who am I speaking with? 96 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:47,917 Yes, Neels, we do hunting. 97 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,953 I'm just busy catching crocs and relocating them 98 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:52,912 so today is not good for me. 99 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,640 Let him bite on this and then we can pull him. 100 00:12:09,680 --> 00:12:11,399 Slowly, slowly, slowly, slowly. 101 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,078 These are still wild animals. 102 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,954 Even if they've been kept in captivity like this, 103 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,436 they will kill you in an instant and eat you up. 104 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,755 So then once it's closed up, you load it on 105 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,794 and it's ready for transport to its next destination. 106 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,117 If you don't come to Vegas, 107 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,000 I think your business will eventually not make it. 108 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,356 This is the place to come, 109 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,399 and everyone tries to be better than the next person. 110 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:18,150 That's my defense in breeding lions or buffalo or sable. 111 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,751 It's a passion, to have your wild game and be able to breed them 112 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,396 and make sure you get better quality and genetics, 113 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,512 and you're actually proud of it. 114 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:33,759 The Safari Club International show 115 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,554 is the largest hunting convention on the planet. 116 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,916 We have 2,000 booths that are out there on the floor. 117 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,031 We'll probably run 20,000 different folks through here 118 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:47,799 from all over the world. 119 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,759 And you'll be able to see anything that you want 120 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:56,272 in terms of hunting, hunting support and conservation. 121 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,313 Four of you, eight animals, big cats. 122 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,477 I know that a lot of people are confused 123 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:05,276 how hunting and conservation go together. 124 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,757 Hunt South Africa on a ten-day game hunt for two hunters. 125 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:13,591 About two hours ago, there was an auction item that was an elephant hunt. 126 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,679 20,000. 22,500. Let's go. Blow him out of the water. 22,500. 127 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,280 - Yeah! - Thank you, sir. 128 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,871 And that elephant hunt sold for about $50,000. 129 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:26,199 And that money will all go back into conservation. 130 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:27,390 Here! 131 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,598 Sold right there. $18,000. 18. 132 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,880 Item number six. A mink coat. 133 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,959 The coat is not exchangeable and model is not included. 134 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,549 The number's valuation, $29,000... 135 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,433 "I don't know," my granddaughter says. 136 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,832 "I don't know why my gran wants to shoot a zebra." 137 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,397 So, I don't know, I'm losing face with my three-year-old little granddaughter 138 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,075 'cause I'm gonna go shoot a zebra. 139 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,556 And crocodiles are really mean, 140 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,797 so I don't feel bad about killing one of those. 141 00:14:55,920 --> 00:15:01,951 Besides that, I want a pair of boots. And a purse and a wallet. And a belt. 142 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,832 You can not only pick the species you want, 143 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,077 but you can pick the actual animal you want. 144 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:13,269 So if you want a male or a female, older, younger, color, type of fur. 145 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,551 You can just pick whatever animal you want 146 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:20,152 from the menu that they offer you, see the price and book the kill. 147 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:33,595 The Safari Club convention is the ultimate meat market for exotic species, 148 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:39,318 and one of the prime attractions is to get a big five grand slam. 149 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,239 And so you shoot one of each of the following species. 150 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,159 Buffalo, which would cost you about $8,000 or $9,000. 151 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,751 Leopards for about 20, elephants for 45, 152 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:50,792 lions for 50,000. 153 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,754 And the most expensive, because it's the rarest, 154 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,440 the rhino for $350,000. 155 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:01,718 So this is all the sort of stuff that encourages this collecting, 156 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,991 this obsessiveness for more and more and more, 157 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:05,349 and this status is applied 158 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,910 to the individual hunter who achieves those ends. 159 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,239 I was hoping to be at Safari Club and they were discussing fish and wildlife 160 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,431 and all the bans they kept instituting, 161 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,672 and there was a rumor that they wanted to put lions on the threatened list 162 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,871 and further regulate their take. 163 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:25,119 And I decided at that moment that if the big five was my goal, 164 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,675 then I had to step my plans up drastically. 165 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:31,955 Get it ready. 166 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,310 Wait, wait, wait. And take him. 167 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,712 Yeah, I love it. 168 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,553 It's exciting to see people get here. 169 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,115 They're going on a big hunt, so they're excited. 170 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,995 They've worked very hard to earn the money to be able to pay for this hunt. 171 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,316 And they come here with anticipation, 172 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,318 they come here with a lot of nervousness 173 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,636 because in Africa it is dangerous. 174 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,798 We're right on the edge of a herd of elephant. Find you a good bull. 175 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,435 You hit him, just keep hitting him again till he's down. Sound good? 176 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,512 - Sounds good. - Follow me up here. 177 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:22,640 If you go back a thousand years, the balance of nature was pretty stable. 178 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,878 Unfortunately, man has kind of screwed this up. 179 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,515 We have encroached on so much natural land 180 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,439 that the species, all the species, now have to be managed. 181 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,910 For instance, too many elephants in Botswana. 182 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,799 On the right, on the right. There he is. Hit him again. 183 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,879 He's down. He's down. 184 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,673 Of course, we can't do this with live animals, 185 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,720 but kind of get you pumped up, what you're gonna feel on the real deal. 186 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:54,875 Hunter's remorse, 187 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,834 it's not been something I've experienced recently. 188 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,510 But as a child, I certainly remember it. 189 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,676 From the flight deck, for those of you leaving us, 190 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:06,393 I'd just like to welcome you to Katima. 191 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,598 On behalf of the crew, thank you for flying with Air Namibia. 192 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,359 When I was a little boy, I remember I had a BB gun. 193 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,075 I can vividly remember my mother telling me, 194 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,431 "You can go shoot birds but don't shoot a red bird." 195 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,998 What did I do? I went and shot a red bird. 196 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,834 And I can still remember holding that bird in my hands 197 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:34,189 and looking at its beak 198 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,119 and just seeing how beautiful it was and how it was made. 199 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:39,995 Right then in that moment, 200 00:18:40,120 --> 00:18:44,956 I realized that there is no way I could have loved that bird anymore 201 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:46,992 even though it was dead. 202 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,117 And I think a lot of us, as trophy hunters, feel the same way. 203 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:57,759 We just want that experience to go and hunt that animal one time. 204 00:18:59,120 --> 00:19:01,032 We really just want one. 205 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:06,875 There you go. 206 00:19:14,360 --> 00:19:16,272 What's wrong, my baby? 207 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:25,270 Yeah, Johnny. 208 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,278 It's not a good morning again this morning. 209 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,193 Oh, fuck. Now what? 210 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,676 - It's a dead rhino here. - An adult rhino? 211 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,712 - Yeah. - Fuck. 212 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:42,871 - Has she got a calf, Johnny? - Yeah, she's got a two-year-old calf. 213 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,390 - Two-year-old calf. - Yeah. 214 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,878 Fuck me. It never stops, does it? 215 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:51,314 Yeah. 216 00:19:57,360 --> 00:19:58,919 Heartbreaking. 217 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,718 Poor calf doesn't know what to do with itself. 218 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,276 Don't cry. 219 00:20:19,120 --> 00:20:21,874 It's gonna be alright, boy. 220 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,676 Don't be childish. 221 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,918 I'll just start with a post-mortem and then I'll decide how to leave them. 222 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:45,952 - That's fine. Alright then. - OK. 223 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,514 OK. 224 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:45,955 The goal of this farm and myself is to breed 200 rhinos a year. 225 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:53,153 I have lost quite a few of my breeding stock. 226 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,199 Disease will always be a factor. 227 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,789 Unfortunately so will poaching. 228 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,950 The odds are stacked against them. 229 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:09,320 And I'm always for the underdog. 230 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,798 But more to the point, I got to know them, 231 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,879 and they are the last animal in the world 232 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,880 that deserves the persecution. They don't deserve it. 233 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:25,438 They are the nicest, most user-friendly animal 234 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:29,873 that wants to stay this side of extinction. 235 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,436 They definitely are the most magical creatures. 236 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,638 I can sit and watch them for hours and hours and hours. 237 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:50,955 And they're ancient. 238 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:55,836 They don't look like they belong in today's life. Yet they're still here. 239 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,039 I'm hoping that people get a whiff of places like this, 240 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:02,276 what we're trying to do here, 241 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,353 that more of them will start thinking of opening their own breeding operations 242 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,309 so that hopefully together we can revive the numbers 243 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,275 before we destroy another species because of mankind. 244 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:28,076 Almost every other wild animal has to be killed to get what people want, 245 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,511 whether that is horns, skin, meat. 246 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,553 Rhino is the only exception, 247 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,913 and that's why I concentrate on rhinos, 248 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,430 because you don't have to hunt them, you don't have to kill them. 249 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,593 In fact, you shouldn't, because they're growing gold for you. 250 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:52,033 The rhino horn belief has been around for millions of years. 251 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,880 Unfortunately there are more people that believe in rhino horn 252 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,994 than there are Christians on this earth, so... 253 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,790 It's very difficult you're gonna tell 600 million Christians or whatever 254 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,394 that God doesn't exist. 255 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,873 By the same token, you're not gonna tell people rhino horn doesn't work. 256 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,712 This horn weighs about four kilos. In Vietnam, on the black market, 257 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,072 the retail value of this horn would be about a quarter million dollars. 258 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,714 It's more expensive than gold or heroin by weight. 259 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,552 The illogical part of it is that 260 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,640 I have four ton of rhino horn in expensive security, 261 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:36,034 which, very conservatively, I could get $60 million. 262 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,959 But we're not allowed to sell it. 263 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,231 When I started this project, 264 00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:49,637 it was legal to sell rhino horn in South Africa. 265 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:56,073 In 2009, our government put a moratorium on the trade in rhino horn. 266 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,114 But since the ban, poaching has skyrocketed. 267 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:20,231 The very crook who now will kill a rhino and sell it illegally, 268 00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:24,036 if he could sell the horn legally, he will never kill a rhino. 269 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,356 Who would kill the hen that lays the golden egg? 270 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,071 Maybe somebody's watching for crocs. I hope. 271 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:57,790 Ooh! 272 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,595 There's a little hole right there. 273 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,354 It's all good. 274 00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:47,478 This is one of the last destinations probably in Africa 275 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,799 where there's no fences. It's absolutely open. 276 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,634 You have to work for your trophy. 277 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,077 We believe here that if you want to hunt, 278 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,669 it's all in the food, it's walk and stalk. 279 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,275 It's giving also the animal a chance. 280 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,511 So, for us, the three things is 281 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:11,510 if he hears you, he smells you or if he sees you, it's game over. 282 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,592 Slow, slow, slow. 283 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:27,791 The build-up to pulling that trigger, in my case, started 18 months ago. 284 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,832 So it's a long build-up to that point. 285 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,794 Preparation, planning, buying plane tickets, 286 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,152 paying a deposit on a safari, talking with your PH about the plans. 287 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,115 What are we gonna do? How are we gonna hunt 'em? All that stalking, planning. 288 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,799 And then finding that the animal is coming. 289 00:27:46,120 --> 00:27:48,077 And then the animal's there. 290 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,112 At the back. 291 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,997 And then you pull the trigger. And then, boom, you got him. 292 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,234 And then all of that anticipation changes into a different emotion 293 00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:07,957 of joy and relief and excitement and anticipation, 294 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,231 because you wanna go over to him and see. 295 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,435 What does he look like? What does he feel like? 296 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,115 What does he... Where did he fall? 297 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,470 - Which one are you looking at? - This one here on the left. 298 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:48,636 OK. 299 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,033 Wait. 300 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:01,919 - Wait a minute. - Yeah? 301 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,509 No, no, no. That's a young bull. 302 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,072 Let's go back. 303 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,313 Let's go. Let's go, let's go. 304 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,033 Philip. 305 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:26,670 Let's go. 306 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,033 I think it's too dangerous. Too many, they're too clumped up and... 307 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,152 All the ones I saw had good tusks, the big ones. 308 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,158 But they're female. It's all females. 309 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:40,674 We are looking for an old animal that we can harvest for meat, so... 310 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,712 OK. Keep going. 311 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,437 For the better part of two centuries now, 312 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,156 you've had this hunting culture, first in Britain and now in America, 313 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,318 that it's somehow rugged and exciting 314 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:19,874 to be out in the wilderness and hunting, 315 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,959 and Teddy Roosevelt bought into that when he hunted thousands of animals, 316 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,396 including something like 5,000 mammals 317 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,830 and started to record all of these kills. 318 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,912 The hunters' accounts of what they're doing 319 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:36,114 makes me sick to my stomach sometimes about finding this amazing bull elephant 320 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,436 and putting a bullet in the animal's head. 321 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,240 And that gives them a rush of excitement. 322 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,440 Now, they cloak that in money, conservation, helping people, 323 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,160 so, yeah, Roosevelt is declaring all these parks national parks 324 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:49,555 and protecting wilderness, 325 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,434 but he's also killing thousands of animals at the same time 326 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,432 because he wanted to be able to do that hunting. 327 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,752 He wanted to be able to consume those wild animals. 328 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,794 The hunting industry is trying to convince people 329 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:09,073 that the way it was in Roosevelt's time is the way it still is today. 330 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,477 A hunter was somebody who was willing to go out 331 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,956 and spend three weeks walking around on foot, 332 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:20,280 tracking an elephant, tracking a lion, to shoot it and take home a trophy. 333 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,960 There was a challenge. There was a sense of sport. 334 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,719 But what has happened in the last ten or fifteen years 335 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:32,232 has been a growing segment of the hunting demographic, 336 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,670 which are referred to as the shooters. 337 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,271 And the shooters may have to spend as much money as it takes 338 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,392 to get a three-week permit, 339 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,995 but if they can kill everything in the first two days, 340 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,396 they'll do it and they'll fly home. 341 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:51,158 It's that mentality that really fed the birth of the canned hunting industry. 342 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,357 Basically you've gone shopping at some import/export place 343 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,512 and you've got your rug, you got your mantelpiece, 344 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,200 but it's not sport, it's just killing. 345 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,792 Shit. I'm out of bullets. 346 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,717 Piece of shit. 347 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,792 Where is it now? 348 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,758 That is one big-ass fucking crocodile. 349 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:39,836 Yeah. 350 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,316 I'll tell you, the adrenaline has been worth every penny of it. 351 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:43,920 It's not like we can fetch it out. 352 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,633 - Something's coming out there. - Yeah. 353 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,275 - It's coming out there. - Oh, fuck. 354 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,629 That's not yours. 355 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,036 - Is that yours? - I don't know. 356 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,197 - No, but I wanna shoot it right now. - No, no. 357 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,994 I wanna have... I wanna have two. 358 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,670 That can't be yours, swimming like that. That's impossible. 359 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,440 Oh, no, that is. He keeps, like, hurting. 360 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,876 It is? Watch, I wanna shoot, so... 361 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,711 - Is that the one? - Yeah. 362 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,236 I'll shoot it with this one. Let me put my gear down. I might drop it. 363 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,876 - What's this? - That's the blood. 364 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,754 - Blood? - For the last crocodile. 365 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,997 - The last crocodile? - Yeah. 366 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,431 It's just waiting for us to get close. Oh, it's moving its eye. 367 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,195 I'll shoot it again. 368 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,034 Just shoot it in the brain. 369 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,152 Oh, yeah, motherfucker! 370 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,117 - Yeah, he's destroyed. - No, they'll fix it. 371 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:10,359 They'll fix it. They'll fix it. That's what taxidermists do. 372 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,273 That's why you pay them. 373 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,197 I'm done for the day. It's party time, boy. 374 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,520 How much for that sucker? 375 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,956 That white one? That's a big white lion. 376 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,879 - They're about 35. - 35,000? 377 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,710 - How much was Cecil? - Cecil was expensive. 50,000. 378 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,793 Make sure all your tags and things are on them 379 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,196 so there's no mistake on the trophies, OK? 380 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,831 Skin it now, salt it, put it in, 381 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,919 so that we know tomorrow when they start with new animals, 382 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,111 we're finished with today's work. 383 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,870 I was in the cattle industry for, like, ten, 12 years, 384 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,630 and because we had a lot of game in the area, 385 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,673 I had some other outfitters those years which always contacted me and said, 386 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,237 "Please, Christo, can I bring a client over? We'd like to come and hunt." 387 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,238 And I'd say, "OK, fine, bring the clients." 388 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,511 And then I start meeting overseas clients 389 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,117 and it looked to me like it can become a good business. 390 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:36,560 So what we offer our clients is there's the lodge, there's a Jacuzzi, 391 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,071 and in the hunting area you can drive around, try and spot the animals. 392 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,671 You get off and you try and get the client up to a point 393 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,514 where he can have a clear good shot at that animal. 394 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,231 Good shot. Good shot, buddy. 395 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,199 And normally, in the middle of the day when it's really hot, 396 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,437 we bring the clients into the blind area 397 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,671 where they can sit down for the rest of the afternoon, 398 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,076 so it makes it really comfortable. 399 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,271 The client can stand straight up 400 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,189 and be able to shoot through that slot over there. 401 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,676 This may be, like, 25 yards. 402 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,598 We will put some feeders out here as well 403 00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:15,837 so that the animals can only come into certain areas 404 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,952 where there's water for drinking. 405 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,596 Then we clear out around all these water points where the blinds are 406 00:36:21,720 --> 00:36:23,951 because you would like to see the animals when they come in, 407 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,994 and that makes it an exciting hunt and it makes it a natural environment, 408 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,440 which is very important. 409 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,875 Why don't you kill? You're just wasting petrol. 410 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,799 Yeah, it's not a photo safari. You got the wrong guide. 411 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,832 You should get a guide which kills things. 412 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,397 Sorry. OK, sorry. 413 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,031 Just keep in mind, we don't feed no Americans if they don't shoot something. 414 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:54,518 I would love to have a giraffe. I probably would shoot it myself too. 415 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:55,790 Here's some more. 416 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,596 He says it's too expensive and we don't have room for it in our house. 417 00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:01,916 I would find room for it in our house, 418 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,875 even if I probably would have to build on to the trophy room, 419 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,037 which I don't want to. 420 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,755 A beautiful animal. I got one of those last year. 421 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,790 I still have a warthog and a baboon and a bush buck, 422 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,594 a bush pig, a caracal, so the list is still pretty big, 423 00:37:25,720 --> 00:37:28,713 and we have the rest of this day and two more days to hunt. 424 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,071 So we'll try to do our best to get the most on the list, 425 00:37:31,240 --> 00:37:34,312 but it's not as easy. 426 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,354 It seems like once we're going for them, they're real skittish. 427 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,197 Now you just try to get all this grass out of the way. 428 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,917 Wash all the blood off. Need water, only a little. 429 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,918 You're trying to stalk the plains game. 430 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:09,876 You know, animals, they get the feeling and get used to our bush environment. 431 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:10,956 One, two, smile. 432 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,278 And then eventually they've got the experience 433 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,955 to allow them to go after the big five. 434 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,118 That was the most expensive one. 435 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:22,789 Damn, that was a good shot. 436 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,359 - Beautiful photo. - And one, two... 437 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:26,431 - A kiss? - Yes. 438 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,035 That's a nice one. 439 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,197 Now I'm happy she got a second one. 440 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,040 - And oil's up two dollars. - You what? 441 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,391 - Oil's up. - Oil's up two dollars. 442 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,879 Let's add another one to the list. Let's add that bitch to the list. 443 00:38:43,720 --> 00:38:47,111 We're going to start really low, and what about one million here. 444 00:38:47,240 --> 00:38:48,594 500,000 now. 445 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,231 - 800,000. One million. Thank you, sir. - Yeah! 446 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,832 One million that we have now. I've got 1.2 now, 1.73 there. 447 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,873 I've got 1.73 now. We have 1.750. 448 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:06,677 Every outfitter, if he has a lot of clients 449 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,953 or runs a good hunting business, you kind of shoot out your animals. 450 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:12,918 So you have to buy in new blood. 451 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,200 The breeding is very important because that's where the money is. 452 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,960 The money is in the breeding. 453 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:34,516 We've had buffalo go for between four and five million US dollars, 454 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,633 and also sable bulls go for four or five million US dollars. 455 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,638 It's good for the industry. 456 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,911 Very big demand and a good market for it. 457 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,191 At 2,600,000, and done. 458 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,676 You have the capitalist system, the profit motive, 459 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:52,950 making money off wildlife. 460 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:55,998 So it's a remarkable development 461 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,909 but in South Africa they went through an incredible period 462 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:04,956 of removing nature from their countryside in the 1800s, 463 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,231 and they literally removed everything. 464 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,959 It's only been in the last 20, 25 years 465 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,630 that there has been this recognition that they could take private land 466 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:19,789 and private owners themselves could profit by restoring these areas. 467 00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:24,714 Now, till recently, this land was mostly used for livestock, 468 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,069 but a lot of people decided, 469 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:30,319 "Well, we could get more revenue if we do game ranching." 470 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,194 You'd actually get much more money than raising cows. 471 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,112 In this model, they're filling the market 472 00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:40,075 by first going rare ungulate species like sable or roan 473 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,112 that are still attractive for hunters, 474 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:43,919 and you can also start breeding your buffalo 475 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,952 so they have abnormally huge horns. 476 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,152 And then as the market saturates, people are thinking, 477 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:56,196 "Well, you know, I've got all this land and we could bring back big five." 478 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,317 Now you actually have got a restored ecosystem. 479 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,919 And so this has been a success story. 480 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,111 There are far more lions in South Africa now 481 00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:11,640 than there were 100 years ago. 482 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,276 There's far more predators in general in South Africa 483 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,631 than there were 100 years ago. 484 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,559 Initially it may have been because this would have involved 485 00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:21,995 the slaughter of some animals, 486 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,874 but then you could go towards a more naturalistic thing 487 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,071 that would not have happened otherwise. 488 00:41:29,240 --> 00:41:34,520 If we're only gonna restrict what we view as domesticated animals 489 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,871 to those species that have been domesticated 490 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,231 hundreds or thousands of years ago, 491 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,558 then we're just gonna see a lot of these species go away, 492 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,515 and I think that there are a few species, like rhino, 493 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,672 that there should be rhino farms. 494 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,800 And one needs to recognize that what they've achieved in South Africa 495 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,152 should not be lost. 496 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,718 This was a breeding buffalo bull. 497 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,072 This buffalo bull was bought for millions. 498 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,351 And eventually he was done breeding 499 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,831 and we had to put him out there for hunting. 500 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,316 So a Canadian client came over 501 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,592 and he was very happy to harvest such a beautiful trophy. 502 00:42:29,720 --> 00:42:33,031 So nothing goes for waste, nothing, even that animal, 503 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:38,360 and we hope we will have, like, maybe 50 or 70 babies of him running around. 504 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,519 But eventually, one day, he's going to be honored, 505 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,077 to put him up on the trophy room, where someone can walk in and say, 506 00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:47,118 "You know what? That was a top breeder." 507 00:42:47,240 --> 00:42:51,029 He'll still be honored today as you look at him and see it was a great trophy. 508 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,072 He makes a real great trophy. 509 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,078 Do you ever get attached to a lion, 510 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:57,759 that it's hard to release it for a hunt? 511 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,998 Is there some animal like that, that you're like, "This one, I..." 512 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,750 All animals, it doesn't matter what animal it is, 513 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,430 if you love animals, you'll get attached to them. 514 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,832 You go out there every day, you see this animal, you're feeding him... 515 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,432 the buffalo, your sable, of course, 516 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,672 but there will be a time when you have to let go. 517 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:23,953 Cut. 518 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,832 You must cut this. 519 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,879 That is true. There is animals you can't let go of. 520 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:46,870 You know, you will be playing with them and they become like a friend. 521 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,719 OK. 522 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:00,754 Yeah! 523 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,109 - I busted a hip. Did you see that? - Congratulations. 524 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,832 - Got him running away. - Yeah. 525 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,319 Oh, mercy. 526 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,398 He's done. 527 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,314 Maybe if you come to the side. 528 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,193 - Where? - To the chest. 529 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,277 - Straight through there? - Yeah. 530 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,429 Let's stand a little bit back. 531 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,512 I think he's finished. 532 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,159 Cigarette? 533 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:19,992 Is he an old one, Philip? 534 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,312 No. Just a bull. 535 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:35,314 Doesn't have... the trophy quality of a big elephant. 536 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,593 You know, it will never grow big, so, yeah. 537 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,193 This is not an elephant. 538 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:37,878 It's too small. 539 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:39,670 It's an own use. 540 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:45,671 Own use. You can say that, but this elephant is really young. 541 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,675 This is the same elephant that ate in my crop field. 542 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:53,870 No way. 543 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:58,233 Yes, he ate all my watermelons! 544 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,312 These are tough times. They must kill 30. 545 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,352 No, they are only allowed to hunt seven elephants. 546 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:06,795 Seven? 547 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,280 The own-use elephant 548 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,279 is the elephant that we have to hunt for the community. 549 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:19,156 As part of their quota, they get some animals that they can harvest for meat. 550 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:24,435 Fifteen years ago, people poached animals because they wanted meat 551 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,313 and there was no value to the animal for them. 552 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,354 Now they know they must protect the wildlife. 553 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,352 There's not only the meat, 554 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,638 there's actually money going back to their pockets. 555 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,116 Good morning! 556 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:31,076 This one is just for a week. 557 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,157 You need another one. 558 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,193 We need another one. A big one. Not like this. 559 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,274 How many goats were killed? 560 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:10,629 - Five. - Five? 561 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,150 There is only one baby goat left. 562 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:21,234 - Did you see the lion? - When I ran out, the lion was gone. 563 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:26,955 I am very sorry. 564 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,512 It's difficult here. 565 00:51:33,720 --> 00:51:35,518 We put thorns at the entrance 566 00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:40,351 but the lion pushed the thorns away and pulled the cow out 567 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,240 and dragged it over there. 568 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,591 It ate everything but the bottom of its legs. 569 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,116 Only the bones remained. 570 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,634 We know that elephants and lions 571 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,832 generate money for the community when they are hunted here. 572 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,111 We have to look after all the animals. 573 00:51:58,240 --> 00:52:02,393 Now, if someone poaches our animals, they go to jail. 574 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:06,036 So it's up to you, the wildlife officers, to decide what to do. 575 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:10,313 Whether you will kill this lion or not. 576 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:15,117 You need to have a plan on how to handle this. 577 00:52:15,240 --> 00:52:16,913 Like this or like that. 578 00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:22,951 We want to get involved so this doesn't happen again, 579 00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,914 but there are some other stakeholders involved, 580 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,556 people organizing photographic safaris, 581 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:33,560 and they don't want the lions to be killed. 582 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:40,913 After the lion killed our cows, we brought the last one into the house. 583 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,954 The cow is sleeping in the house with us. 584 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,520 We called you, but you were not there when it happened. 585 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:54,317 If he smells cow inside, next stage he will go into the houses. 586 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,079 Break the door where people sleep. 587 00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,910 These are recurring problems and we can't carry on like this. 588 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,112 Somebody's gonna get eaten. It's just a matter of time. 589 00:53:03,240 --> 00:53:05,197 Maybe it's better people cry about a dead lion 590 00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,991 and we don't cry about a dead person. Better that way. 591 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,993 We go to extreme lengths to keep animals from being shot 592 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:23,952 on the problem animal control program. 593 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,510 Probably 95% of the time, we can get the animals out of the communities 594 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:33,760 and get them back into where they belong and try and keep the two separate, 595 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,917 'cause they don't mix well. 596 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,430 And people are killed every year 597 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,911 by elephant and hippo and crocodile and lion. 598 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:47,069 That's part of life. Part of life here, anyway, certainly. 599 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,116 Lions come in and absolutely destroy a guy's livelihood 600 00:53:53,240 --> 00:53:56,312 and he doesn't have a way to sustain his future. 601 00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:00,195 Maybe does he end up in the bush, putting up wire snares and poaching? 602 00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,633 At the end of the day, you know, we're fighting a poaching war. 603 00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:09,520 We are trying to recruit people. We do the anti-poaching campaigns, 604 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:14,755 trying to teach people and explain to them the importance of animals. 605 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,751 The problem is, people, they are suffering. 606 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:25,433 So they are forced now to get into the poach to make a living. 607 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,356 Stay. Stay. 608 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:45,434 Stay. Be a good boy. Be a good boy. Stay, honey, stay. 609 00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:52,394 I don't know if I want to see this. 610 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:56,236 Yeah, David, you don't. Let me tell you, you definitely don't. 611 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,716 That one over there was only 14 months old. 612 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,320 I think two of them were pregnant. 613 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:09,400 And then another cow with a young calf was also wounded. 614 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,200 She still has a bullet in her brisket. 615 00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,555 Whether that'll prove fatal or not, we don't know. 616 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,672 Fucking sick. 617 00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:36,232 They can give you ten, 12, even 13 calves in their life. 618 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,276 That is all wiped out. 619 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:43,872 In one moment. 620 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,516 The bodies were actually mutilated. 621 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,038 Means that there's definitely, sort of, locals involved. 622 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:03,753 I'm suspicious about the camp master, because the rhinos, they know him, 623 00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:08,517 and he knows how to go and stand in the middle of them quietly, 624 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,552 and then maybe, you know, two guys, 625 00:56:10,720 --> 00:56:13,155 one banging that side and one banging this side. 626 00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,114 That's how I pictured it in my nightmare. 627 00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:39,600 So where does that leave me? 628 00:56:39,720 --> 00:56:40,949 Yeah, but what I was saying 629 00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:45,393 is that we're going to have a harder thing convincing the pro-trades... 630 00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,314 - You mean the anti-trades. - Yeah, the anti... 631 00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,033 Convincing the anti-trades, you mean? 632 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,880 - Yes. John, you should know... - I know that. 633 00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,515 I know that better than any of you. I'm there. 634 00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:59,520 I'm in the fight, all day and every day, so I know that. 635 00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,876 I am not pro and I'm not anti. 636 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:08,554 Both of those approaches have merit in cases and not merit, 637 00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,957 because the motives behind the commercial acts 638 00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:15,118 are very seldom conservation-based. 639 00:57:15,240 --> 00:57:19,359 They are profit-based and they sell it to the public on the basis of... 640 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,194 - It pays, it stays. - ...it pays, it stays, yeah. 641 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,353 I'm not a missionary for your cause, not at all. 642 00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,553 Just be for the rhinos, not for my cause. 643 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,831 It's all I fucking want. Be for the rhinos. 644 00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,476 Try and keep them alive. That's all I'm fucking asking everybody. 645 00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:39,719 - You and I can have a discussion. - Let me tell you something. 646 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,231 If you are anti-trade, then you're anti-legal trade. 647 00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,875 Then there's two things I want you to think about. 648 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,630 Firstly, you are keeping the money away from me 649 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,070 which I need to protect my rhino. 650 00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:57,195 Secondly, if you're anti-legal trade, by implication, to me, 651 00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:01,234 you are pro-illegal trade, and those are the poachers. 652 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:07,354 The fact of the matter is that... 653 00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,160 Fact of the matter is in ten years' time, 654 00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,591 if there's not legalization, you won't see one fucking rhino here. 655 00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:17,600 They'll all be dead or gone. That's the fact of the matter. 656 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,674 Open! Open! Open! 657 00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:39,718 Go outside! Get out! 658 00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:41,160 Get out! Get out! Get out! 659 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:43,355 - Sister... - Mm? 660 00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:51,634 Sister, the black boots are coming today. 661 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,514 And they are tough. They are tough. 662 00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,030 And they are serious. 663 00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:00,358 - The older wife knows everything. - What does she know? 664 00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,234 She knows everything about our husband's poaching. 665 00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,837 They don't tell me anything because I might betray them. 666 00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:11,549 There's a gun here. 667 00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:13,800 Here? 668 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:17,236 Lie down. 669 00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,319 We know you're lying. Lie on the ground. 670 00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,080 Don't beat me. 671 00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:24,270 Don't beat me. 672 00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:28,557 You can die for nothing if you're lying. 673 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:40,234 The husband had been going into the bush and shooting elephants. 674 00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:44,752 That network over the years, probably over the last ten years, 675 00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:48,794 would have accounted for a couple of thousand elephant at least. 676 00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:53,112 So, yeah, a bad guy. Done a lot of bad things. 677 00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:57,078 Tell this fucking lady now we are now tired of this, yeah, 678 00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,357 and we are going to leave her with boots... 679 00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,432 We kill! Do you understand? 680 01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:05,075 Where is the gun? Tell us now! 681 01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:10,514 - The gun is with Tobaco! - Yeah, better answer. 682 01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:16,958 Here is the gun cabinet. 683 01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:23,710 Sit down, boys. 684 01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:26,236 Sit down! 685 01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:44,359 I'm tired of this nonsense. 686 01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,158 They are not dangerous kids. 687 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:48,953 On this system of poaching, 688 01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,754 these young boys will grow up to be in the same system. 689 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,560 Maybe these boys will end up 690 01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,832 carrying ivory in the bush and we will kill them. 691 01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,680 Better that these kids hear the straight story. 692 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:01,950 Come here. 693 01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:07,397 We've known your father a long time. The future in the bush ain't a future. 694 01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,199 - There's no future there. - Of course. 695 01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,438 Otherwise you can die, leaving your family behind. 696 01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:14,916 - Yeah. - Or to be jailed. 697 01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:20,160 And you're young guys with plenty of future to your side. 698 01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:24,069 I know if we stay like this, we will end up... in the bush. 699 01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:27,830 We will end up meeting in the bush. And that's not good. 700 01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:29,872 That's not going forward. 701 01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,397 We're fighting this war for the community. 702 01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:38,756 This community and another community further away 703 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,634 want these elephant's teeth. They're worth a lot of money 704 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,229 and they will go to all lengths to get what they want. 705 01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:48,149 So, yeah, we need to look in the mirror every morning. 706 01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,920 I make a point of it. Every single morning I look in the mirror. 707 01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:56,069 Because we've gotta make sure that we don't cross the bounds, 708 01:01:56,240 --> 01:02:00,632 that we can't lose our humanity for humanity. 709 01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,672 I think that's really important. 710 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:09,070 It gets harsh and we do things sometimes that... you saw it... scare people. 711 01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:14,952 But we have to do what we've gotta... 712 01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:16,958 We have to keep this fight going. 713 01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,270 It's a war to save elephants from extinction. 714 01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:34,951 Twenty rhinos were poached in less than a year. Twenty. 715 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:44,233 When I fired the previous security company, 716 01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:46,192 I already had a suspicion 717 01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,518 that some of them were involved in the rhino poaching. 718 01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:55,755 One of the people in that team I really liked was the second in command, 719 01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,793 a chap by the name of Thomas Chauke. 720 01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:02,834 That is our friend Thomas at the time that he was here. 721 01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:06,192 I've got a very reliable report from the police 722 01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:09,398 that Thomas was in on the poaching. 723 01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:18,635 That is, emotionally, the worst part of this was who your friends are. 724 01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:22,350 Who are the friends of your rhino? You feel you can't trust anybody. 725 01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:28,394 I won't be able to guarantee zero losses on this property. 726 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,553 But most of those incidents which are mapped there 727 01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:36,311 are as a direct result of having the wrong people on site 728 01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:38,830 with not the right equipment, not the right training, 729 01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:40,912 not being highly motivated. 730 01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,839 So we will now change the policy completely 731 01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,429 to have elite reaction unit. 732 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,759 I don't necessarily want them in a body bag, 733 01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,270 but I would like to upset them, 734 01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:58,837 for them to say, "No, no, no. You don't wanna go to that place." 735 01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:03,399 We have a case of shots being fired. 736 01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:05,352 We have to bring the chopper in. 737 01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:11,990 While a lot of their politicians are praying for peace, 738 01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,157 we are praying for war. 739 01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:18,115 More conflict is probably needed in this arena to sort out the problem. 740 01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:26,719 Quite frankly, I feel poor, because they're all very expensive. 741 01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:30,390 Radar seems to be somewhere between ten and 20 million rand. 742 01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:35,159 This chopper here is costing me nearly a million a month. 743 01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,876 Then there's the underground man and the bloody information man 744 01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:40,832 and, and, and. 745 01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:45,952 Derek, would that have come through as an alarm 746 01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:48,271 if you'd tapped it on the top of the fence? 747 01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:57,233 I mean, why did they come in here? They walked from that bottom road there 748 01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:00,159 all the way up here into this camp to come and poach these. 749 01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:04,240 Why? Just 'cause they're fucking with my head, or why? 750 01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:13,994 You feel very helpless, you know. 751 01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,438 Good morning, darlings. 752 01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:25,550 Let me scratch you. 753 01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:28,912 This one is four months old. 754 01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,237 I don't think anybody ever thought 755 01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:45,719 any private person would have 1,300 rhinos. 756 01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:48,874 And next year we're going to have 200 more, maybe. 757 01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:54,276 But I suppose it's an addiction, I would think. 758 01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,320 And where do you think it's gonna stop? 759 01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,151 When he kicks the bucket, I guess. 760 01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:07,834 Then hopefully one of his sons will carry on. 761 01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:12,357 He won't stop before he's six foot under. 762 01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,110 My dream is to carry on what my dad's doing, 763 01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:25,118 is to carry on with the rhino breeding. 764 01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:30,991 Unfortunately, the irony, I wouldn't breed rhino 765 01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:35,194 because it's too expensive and it's very high risk. 766 01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:38,154 I mean, we've had death threats here at the house. 767 01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:42,160 If I see what he's gone through in sort of the last 15 years, 768 01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:44,710 his financial position has got gradually worse and worse 769 01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:48,151 the more rhino, you know, he's acquired. 770 01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:54,831 I've invested $50 million in this project 771 01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:56,872 with virtually no return. 772 01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:09,315 This project will come to an end unless it is making money. 773 01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:14,310 I can go on selling my assets, but it is not sustainable in the long run. 774 01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:21,678 I used to have six resorts. I used to have over 3,000 beds. 775 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,117 All the resorts have been 776 01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:30,358 and this is the last one that will be sold on auction. 777 01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:33,354 A bid, sir? At $17 million. 778 01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:36,319 At 17 and a half. At 17 and a half. 779 01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,557 Nineteen. At 19 now. 780 01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:40,876 Half. At 19 and a half. 781 01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,356 At 20,750,000 now. 782 01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:45,796 At 22,750,000. 783 01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:47,240 At 24 million. 784 01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:52,435 For the first time, for the second time at 24 million. 785 01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,913 Thank you, ma'am. It's yours. 786 01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:07,837 After taking various advice, I believe that I don't have any option 787 01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:11,317 but to take the government to court to lift the moratorium. 788 01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:16,717 If I don't, I will run out of money 789 01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:19,753 and my rhinos will be killed by poachers. 790 01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:34,034 Sure. 791 01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:38,120 We believe that the poachers would have shot an elephant today 792 01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:43,440 and we hope to meet them on the road and explain to them 793 01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:46,672 that this no longer happens in this area. 794 01:08:55,440 --> 01:08:58,194 There was a sting operation in the district south of us 795 01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:00,630 where a lot of our armed poachers come from. 796 01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:04,754 And what had transpired was a guy whipped out a knife, 797 01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:08,317 tried to stab the police officer. He was shot. 798 01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,520 He died shortly after that. 799 01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:16,592 Yeah, don't know. 800 01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:22,032 It was a bit strange 'cause the next day I had to go and shoot an elephant 801 01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:23,719 on behalf of the council. 802 01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,280 But walking up to that elephant, 803 01:09:28,440 --> 01:09:32,992 which is an incredibly dangerous thing to do, 804 01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:38,076 and you have this huge adrenaline rush as you're walking up to it. 805 01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:40,635 Your heart's going. Your head's going. 806 01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,992 You need to cleanly shoot this animal, 807 01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:49,195 and as it folds, it falls to the floor after your shot, 808 01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:53,394 there's just this huge drop of emotion, for me, anyway. 809 01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:59,158 And it's, to me... 810 01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:02,720 really sad. 811 01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:06,231 It turns from this beautiful animal 812 01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:11,071 into this floppy mess of grey skin. 813 01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:14,952 To me, shooting elephant's hard. 814 01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:18,874 I understand it's gotta be done and I have to do it sometimes, 815 01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,435 but it's a tough call. 816 01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:25,998 Yeah, it's an emotional thing, killing an animal, 817 01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:27,952 and I think maybe that's a part of the hunting, 818 01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:32,359 where people have this huge build-up 819 01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:35,672 and then this emotional switch. 820 01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:40,795 I get that, so I understand maybe if others get it, 821 01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,833 and maybe it becomes a passionate addiction. 822 01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:44,950 I don't know. 823 01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,274 - And many more! - Cheers! 824 01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,312 Want a bite? 825 01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:11,593 Your hair's all wild. You just spilled it. 826 01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:13,791 What are you, some kind of wild animal? 827 01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:19,112 Mom, Dad, y'all watch. Philip's opening his gift. 828 01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:20,754 Oh, I remember what these are. 829 01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:26,760 "Birthday cheers on your quest for the big five." 830 01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:29,031 - Something merlot. - Something. 831 01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,629 And some kind of chocolates. Is that what that is? 832 01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,150 - Happy birthday. - Thank you. 833 01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:44,840 Well, unfortunately, this is my birthday present, I guess. 834 01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:48,954 They've listed the lions as threatened, and all lions as threatened, 835 01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:53,438 and another species is endangered. So, effectively, lion hunting is over. 836 01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,360 When this all goes into effect, I don't know. 837 01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:02,076 We're just a few months out, so maybe we're OK, maybe we're not. 838 01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:03,839 Maybe we have to go to a different country. 839 01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,595 Maybe the whole trip's ruined. I don't know. 840 01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:08,393 So I think the thing that makes me the maddest 841 01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:13,237 is this service director, Dan Ashe, says that, and I quote, 842 01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:14,919 "That it's a privilege, not a right 843 01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:17,953 for us to bring back these trophies from other countries." 844 01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:21,395 You know, I don't think he was elected by anybody. 845 01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:24,519 I think he's an appointed bureaucrat and he has no right to tell me 846 01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:29,669 what my rights are and what a privilege of being a US citizen is. 847 01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,400 I'm gonna be the first hunter in there for the hunting season, 848 01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:33,914 and we planned it that way, 849 01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:36,874 so I'm going as early as I can in this coming year. 850 01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:40,516 But it might not be early enough. 851 01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:58,874 Ladies and gentlemen, today is a very significant day 852 01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:04,439 for the South African Predator Association. 853 01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:10,796 I want to inform you about what is happening 854 01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:14,038 with the US Fish and Wildlife Service. 855 01:13:15,440 --> 01:13:19,878 And what are we going to do to open the lion industry again? 856 01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:22,633 That's the bottom line. 857 01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:28,392 We will do anything to prevent losing the American market. 858 01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:33,711 There are about 150 farms in South Africa 859 01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:37,800 that have permits to keep and breed lions. 860 01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:43,120 About 70% of all hunters are coming from the US and Canada. 861 01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:49,911 And right now the importation of lion trophies will be much more difficult, 862 01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:52,555 and that will give my industry a severe blow. 863 01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:59,198 If we can't get hunters to hunt our lions 864 01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:03,678 we slaughter the lions and sell their bones. 865 01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:09,192 What other alternative is there? 866 01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:13,631 If you cannot look after your animals and there's no value to your animals, 867 01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:15,080 how will you look after them? 868 01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,920 Where will you find the money to feed them 869 01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:19,838 if you take away the value of it? 870 01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:23,954 I have to get rid of it. There's no other option for me. 871 01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:27,113 Walk away from my place, let people shoot them, euthanize them? 872 01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:30,517 What else? What can you expect me to do? 873 01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,439 I can't just let them open the camps 874 01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:36,354 and let them run out free and kill people. 875 01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:48,031 Just once in a while, an individual animal 876 01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:52,712 can capture the public imagination and change public attitudes. 877 01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:55,994 Worldwide outrage over the death of Cecil the lion, 878 01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:57,998 killed at the hands of an American dentist. 879 01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:03,195 Cecil's death created a sort of public groundswell of opinion 880 01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:05,232 that's been translated into real action. 881 01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:08,916 You know, I eat hamburgers, but that was not a hunt. That was a murder. 882 01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:11,396 And this guy must have quite a collection of animal heads 883 01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:14,280 because, well, here he is posing next to a bear he shot. 884 01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:16,437 He killed, like, half of Noah's Ark. 885 01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:19,031 Killing a lion for sport? 886 01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:21,550 Not in the era of Instagram and Facebook. 887 01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:24,758 Not to a generation brought up to relate to Simba. 888 01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:26,678 We'll always be together, right? 889 01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:32,432 No, we won't. I'll be murdered by a dentist from Minnesota. 890 01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:34,159 See that constellation, 891 01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:38,035 the one that looks like a white guy in his 50s with a fake smile? 892 01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:39,276 Walter fucking Palmer, 893 01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:42,632 you hunted Cecil the lion like a fucking cowardly bitch. 894 01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:45,952 Dentist Palmer, welcome to the court of public opinion. 895 01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,390 I'm really happy that social media is getting this story out. 896 01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:50,512 Stop talking about it. I'm gonna get really angry. 897 01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:52,996 What would happen if you were being hunted, motherfucker?! 898 01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:55,954 We'll never forgive what you did, Palmer! 899 01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:58,231 In the wake of public outrage 900 01:15:58,360 --> 01:15:59,953 over the killing of Cecil the lion, 901 01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:03,272 the three largest US airlines are instituting bans 902 01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:06,438 on carrying trophies as freight. 903 01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:08,910 Somebody is paying for this thing to function. 904 01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:13,831 Someone provides the clothing, the scopes, the outdoor gear, 905 01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:19,240 and it makes the big corporate players in this think very carefully 906 01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:24,037 about how closely they wish to be associated with certain practices. 907 01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:27,915 And I think that that will change and it will change fast 908 01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:31,158 and people will say, "Mm-mm, don't wanna be part of this." 909 01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:34,114 - Save our lions! - Ban canned hunting! 910 01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:37,790 - Save our lions! - Ban canned hunting! 911 01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:40,833 - Save our lions! - Ban canned hunting! 912 01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:42,189 Save our lions! 913 01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:46,149 We will shame these people. We will ostracize these people. 914 01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:48,237 We will put such pressure on our governments 915 01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:51,114 that they've got nowhere to go. And it isn't just lions. 916 01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:55,075 A certain gentleman that breeds 1,200 white rhinos in South Africa 917 01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:59,240 and spends 5.2 million rand a year feeding them and looking after them 918 01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:01,636 says he can no longer afford to pay for all of that. 919 01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:05,515 He'll have to kill those animals unless he can sell the rhino horn. 920 01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:09,429 And we've gotta say enough is enough. We won't allow that to happen. 921 01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:13,230 We won't allow South Africa to abuse its position... 922 01:17:15,440 --> 01:17:18,717 Welcome. I'm here tonight to moderate a debate 923 01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:22,874 between two very prominent conservationists, 924 01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:28,871 Will Travers of the Born Free Foundation and Mr. John Hume. 925 01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:32,640 I'm very keen to hear what he's gonna say. 926 01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:36,800 He's far more experienced than I am in wooing the public. 927 01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:40,118 Don't forget that. That's what he does, he woos the public. 928 01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:43,916 And that's how they collect money and that's why he's so good at it. 929 01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:50,237 Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. 930 01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:52,750 I'm a retired property developer 931 01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:58,797 and now custodian of 1,403 rhinos. 932 01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:00,877 If I can sell the horns, 933 01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:05,199 my 1,400 will become 2,000, 3,000 and 10,000. 934 01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:12,634 I cannot see what is wrong with that when my rhinos are happy alive. 935 01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:15,719 Come and see them where they are. 936 01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:20,596 I have the recipe, but it takes a lot of money. 937 01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:22,837 I have a way to raise the money 938 01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:25,429 without going begging all over the world. 939 01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:28,678 All I need is for it to be legal. 940 01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:30,359 I don't think there's any legitimate case 941 01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:32,876 for you having these animals in large numbers 942 01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:35,674 in private areas of owned land where you can harvest them, 943 01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:37,029 where you can profit from them, 944 01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:39,277 where you can put them into the international market, 945 01:18:39,440 --> 01:18:42,399 where we can lead to more destruction. 946 01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:47,070 Excuse me, sir. I don't think you understand Africa. 947 01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:49,476 You simply don't understand Africa. 948 01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:53,640 How many consumers could you supply from your rhinos? 949 01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:55,353 I trim my horns every two years, 950 01:18:55,520 --> 01:19:00,037 so I can produce, with my current rhinos, one ton of horn a year. 951 01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:02,277 Your rhino. What about the rest of the population? 952 01:19:02,440 --> 01:19:03,510 They must do the same. 953 01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,075 That's why I wanna give them to the communities. 954 01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:07,839 I want to teach the community... 955 01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:12,432 What about Sumatran rhino, Indian rhino? Won't you "flood" your market? 956 01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:14,517 So you want me to give up and let my rhino all die? 957 01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,155 It's all about your rhino. What about the global rhino? 958 01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:20,079 Let the global rhino do the same thing. 959 01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:22,635 You have to speak for all rhino, not just yours. 960 01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:30,198 The "if it pays, it stays" principle, the commodification of wildlife. 961 01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:32,511 Elephants will stay if we can sell their ivory. 962 01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:35,599 Lions will stay if the wealthy elite can shoot them for fun. 963 01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:40,112 And rhino will stay, albeit on ranches very similar to Mr. Hume's, 964 01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:44,234 if their horns can be sold to remote, distant, deluded buyers. 965 01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:46,875 What a vision of nature that will be, 966 01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:51,074 contained, confined, commercialized and counterfeit. 967 01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:38,278 South Africa is yet to decide on a push to end a global ban 968 01:20:38,440 --> 01:20:40,716 on buying and selling rhino horn. 969 01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:42,752 The move could open up a $2 billion market 970 01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:45,998 and also determine the fate of the critically endangered species. 971 01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:48,593 Rise. 972 01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:59,032 When we assess this trade, 973 01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:02,119 what this trade is actually doing is going into the international trade 974 01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:03,879 and the international trade is unlawful. 975 01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:07,277 The moratorium is one of the six reasons, top reasons, 976 01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:08,914 why poaching has escalated. 977 01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:12,117 Mr. Hume says that's based on your records. 978 01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:15,039 We accept that poaching is one of the factors that we need to consider, 979 01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:17,231 but the department and none of its reports 980 01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:19,875 accept that the way to deal with poaching immediately now 981 01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:21,275 is by lifting the moratorium. 982 01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:27,715 So the department accepts that the moratorium encourages poaching? 983 01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:30,678 No, My Lord. The department does not accept that. 984 01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:33,838 There are a number of factors that contribute to poaching 985 01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:37,271 and the viability report accepts that the moratorium is one of them, 986 01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:38,959 is one of those contributing factors. 987 01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:41,276 The viability report does not find that it is the main one. 988 01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:42,959 It does not find that it is the only one. 989 01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:44,400 It does not find that it is the cause. 990 01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:49,919 And if we do not do that now, the escalation of poaching continues. 991 01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:54,114 No, My Lord. The reasons why there is continued poaching are complicated 992 01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:55,953 and that is the department's version. 993 01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:58,993 Would you say this is rational, really? 994 01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:04,235 "I have been breeding rhinos for a very long time 995 01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:06,875 and all of a sudden, I am very poor." 996 01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:10,311 But the point is, there is an eco-tourism market and a hunting market 997 01:22:10,440 --> 01:22:12,830 which enables them to capitalize their assets. 998 01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:15,156 They say that they prefer not to allow hunting, 999 01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:18,079 and that is a choice, not to exploit in a particular way. 1000 01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:22,956 If I understand you correctly, is that if you hunt, 1001 01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:29,196 you can sell to tourists and tourists can pack and go with the horns. 1002 01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:34,679 But then, we have brought 2,000 rhinos, 1003 01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:38,760 say, for example, for Mr. Hume, 1004 01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:41,190 down by one we have slaughtered. 1005 01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:45,593 And where is the preservation of the rhinos? 1006 01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:53,510 My Lords and My Lady, consider that for a moment, coldly and analytically, 1007 01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:58,271 the entire world and South African citizens 1008 01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:03,714 are hugely concerned about the preservation of this species. 1009 01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:05,877 It's on the brink of extinction, virtually. 1010 01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:07,798 We say we can't afford to defray the costs. 1011 01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:09,240 What does the Minister say? 1012 01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:12,273 "Well, you can garner some income by having them hunted." 1013 01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:16,437 It is actually quite sad 1014 01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:21,072 that the Environmental Minister can resort to an allegation, 1015 01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:24,671 in the midst of all people trying to preserve the species, 1016 01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:26,314 to an allegation that, yeah, 1017 01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:30,150 you can garner income by having them hunted. Killed. 1018 01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:33,552 If there were only ten left in the world, and Mr. Hume had those ten, 1019 01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:35,751 and he had raised the same argument, 1020 01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:39,032 would the Minister have said, "Well, hunt them, shoot them"? 1021 01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:41,914 Then we will be down to one and we will put that one in the museum. 1022 01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:44,758 It's, with respect, absurd. 1023 01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:49,992 Oh, my gosh. 1024 01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:54,954 - I got this one. - You got this one? 1025 01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:57,037 - Alright. I'm coming back. - You bet. 1026 01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:04,920 Justice for Cecil! Justice for Cecil! 1027 01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:06,633 Justice for Cecil! 1028 01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:10,032 They like to talk about the numbers, about conservation. 1029 01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:13,790 They're just greenwashing, basically, the fact that they enjoy killing. 1030 01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:17,152 And that's basically psychopathic behavior. 1031 01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:19,118 We're seeing a lot of progress for animals. 1032 01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:22,637 The change is coming. We're gonna put an end to this. 1033 01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:30,798 I'm actually a conservation hunter. 1034 01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:32,639 We're very conscientious about what we do hunt, 1035 01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:34,359 and we don't hunt any endangered species. 1036 01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:37,752 - Well, I'm against all hunting. - Just all hunting? No matter what? 1037 01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:40,793 - No matter the results or...? - All hunting. 1038 01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:42,798 From the conservationist's point of view, 1039 01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,389 the money that comes in from hunting in those areas 1040 01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:48,837 where those conservancies are is actually what's keeping them there. 1041 01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:50,758 Do you honestly think your money goes anywhere 1042 01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:54,157 except into someone's back pocket? You are breeding corruption. 1043 01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:56,920 We're going to go to the school that we paid for. 1044 01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:59,077 - We're going to go to the clinic... - So go build a school. 1045 01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:00,236 If you wanna build a school, 1046 01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:02,591 I'll shake your hand and build it with you, no problem. 1047 01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:03,995 Why do you have to shoot an animal? 1048 01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:07,431 I'm just saying, that's part of our industry. That's an off-shoot. 1049 01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:09,637 Murder is murder. 1050 01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:12,150 - No, it's not murder if it's an animal. - Yes, it is. 1051 01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:15,034 Did you murder a chicken that you had for lunch? 1052 01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:16,879 I don't eat meat, sweetheart. 1053 01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,276 - I'm vegan. I don't eat meat. - OK. 1054 01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:23,633 Cos I have regard for all species and all living, breathing things. 1055 01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:27,913 Shame on you! Cowards! 1056 01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:36,354 It's human nature to be empathetic with the individual, 1057 01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:38,637 and so the animal rights organizations, 1058 01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:41,514 that's their thinking, is the individual, 1059 01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:44,360 as if that's somehow gonna protect the entire area, 1060 01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:46,989 it's gonna protect the whole ecosystem, and it's not. 1061 01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:50,352 So they think in terms of Bambi or Simba or Fifi, 1062 01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:52,119 'cause we can see Fifi, we know Fifi, 1063 01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:55,597 and we send out photographs of Fifis to our donors. 1064 01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:58,189 Then that's great, OK? 1065 01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:00,835 But Fifi might be in the right middle place 1066 01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:02,519 and she's right in the most protected area 1067 01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:04,871 and you're ignoring everywhere else around the periphery. 1068 01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:07,117 And all people are cutting away 1069 01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:09,675 and they're felling forests and they're clearing land 1070 01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:15,080 and they're bringing their livestock right next to Fifi, and it all goes. 1071 01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:21,070 They're ignoring the fact that local people are being killed by lions 1072 01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:23,755 or being trampled by elephants. They're losing their crops. 1073 01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:26,952 That they do not share their value system. 1074 01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:31,154 If you cannot empathize with the local people, 1075 01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:35,069 then you're not gonna be successful in protecting them in the long term. 1076 01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:39,269 On the other hand, you have the hunters 1077 01:26:39,440 --> 01:26:41,830 who are convinced that where they operate, 1078 01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:45,271 they're the last bastion of support to protect these areas. 1079 01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:49,314 But to an animal welfare organization, no, no animal must die. 1080 01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:55,631 The reality of hunting is that, yes, there are a few places 1081 01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:57,917 where hunting does make a difference. 1082 01:26:58,040 --> 01:27:00,714 But in many areas, the economics don't add up. 1083 01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:03,799 They're not generating enough money, the land is being lost, 1084 01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:06,071 especially in the most corrupt countries. 1085 01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:08,669 We've seen that happen over and over in many parts of Africa, 1086 01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:11,076 where they go out and say, "Everything's fine." 1087 01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:14,034 No, it's not fine. Things are declining. 1088 01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:27,917 What we do is run the camp and kind of manage the ongoing management 1089 01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:29,872 of the anti-poaching in the area, 1090 01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:33,994 and we get a daily rate when foreign hunters come in to hunt here 1091 01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:39,394 which really subsidizes the money that I have to run my anti-poaching. 1092 01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:46,871 You can imagine all that dust and dirt and rain and... 1093 01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:48,798 Our firearms take a bit of a hammering. 1094 01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:51,754 That's why we like these AK actions. Good old AK. 1095 01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:53,712 Built in Israel. You can't really go wrong with it. 1096 01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:55,797 No, no. 1097 01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:05,037 We're fighting to save this for the community... 1098 01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:10,440 while people kill it. 1099 01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:15,875 It really is pretty weird. 1100 01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:19,118 We're fighting to save something so somebody else can kill it. 1101 01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:24,160 It just comes back to control... 1102 01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:29,160 Ethic, morals, sustainability. 1103 01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:33,352 You can assimilate the two, the poachers and the commercial hunters, 1104 01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:36,194 but the difference is, the poachers... 1105 01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:41,714 They shoot anything for their teeth, literally anything. 1106 01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:44,912 And they will shoot every last one that there is 1107 01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:49,080 because there's a commercial-driven desire for these teeth. 1108 01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:54,355 On the hunting side, if done correctly, 1109 01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:57,752 where there's a very carefully measured off-take... 1110 01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:01,716 I can live with that. 1111 01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:05,151 Killing every last animal, no, can't live with that, won't do that. 1112 01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:08,038 That's just wrong. 1113 01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:12,719 - You loaded up there, bro? - No. 1114 01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:15,639 You gotta load up. You never know what we can bump here. 1115 01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:20,879 - I'm not really after a buck. - OK. 1116 01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:21,911 Yeah, I mean... 1117 01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:23,793 You know what? We're gonna need bait, so... 1118 01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:25,593 We got three more places to bait. 1119 01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:28,110 But it's your call. You know, no pressure. 1120 01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:30,118 How much am I paying for the hippo for bait? 1121 01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:31,873 4,750. 1122 01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:33,832 - And how much for the buffalo? - 5,500. 1123 01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:34,950 OK. 1124 01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:46,117 - OK. - When you're ready, take it. 1125 01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:09,673 This is one of now probably 17 baits we've put up so far for Philip. 1126 01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:12,872 We've used hippo, zebra, impala, 1127 01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:16,038 and our biggest problem is they're rotting really quick. 1128 01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:17,992 They're only lasting two or three days, 1129 01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:21,875 so hopefully cats find us in the next two days while they're still fresh 1130 01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:23,593 and give us a bit of luck. 1131 01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:31,513 The Bible says he gave man dominion over all the animals. 1132 01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:34,200 And that dominion comes with responsibility, 1133 01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:36,880 but it also means it's the right to use. 1134 01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:38,593 And so I think that is a big part of it, 1135 01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:40,871 and it's a big part of appreciating God's creation. 1136 01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:44,880 And some people think, "Well, how can you go out and shoot God's creation?" 1137 01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:48,357 That's a totally false statement, false point of view. 1138 01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:50,159 God said we have dominion over the animals. 1139 01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:52,590 That means we can do what we choose with them. 1140 01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:55,360 It's a very powerful statement that's in the Bible. 1141 01:30:57,680 --> 01:30:59,876 - The nice broad-cut one. - You mean the ram? 1142 01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:01,354 Any one. 1143 01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:07,357 I think it does make it more special for me as a believer 1144 01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:09,989 to go out there and pursue these animals and know that God placed them. 1145 01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:13,198 When I put my hand on that lion, I can promise you... 1146 01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:16,992 at that moment, as with all of my life, 1147 01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:20,079 anybody that believes in evolution is a complete fool. 1148 01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:22,556 I just don't understand how people can't understand 1149 01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:24,996 that God raised that animal into existence. 1150 01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:01,753 It's a big lion. Massive. Look at the mane on him. 1151 01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:04,349 It's a big cat. 1152 01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:08,396 Wow! 1153 01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:11,039 Nice one. It's got a big head. 1154 01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:12,913 Fantastic cat, bro. 1155 01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:30,952 A thought came to mind as I was coming here 1156 01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:36,280 and beginning to feel the emotion and the anticipation of this big hunt. 1157 01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:42,671 You know, I've been a hunter my whole life. 1158 01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:45,076 They say I fell out of the hunting vehicle when I was two or three 1159 01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:48,278 and landed on my head. Maybe that's what's wrong with me sometimes. 1160 01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:53,070 And, you know, I lost my dad a few years ago and he was a hunter. 1161 01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:57,993 At the time, I was a little angry with him, the way he would treat me, 1162 01:32:58,120 --> 01:33:02,034 but he would do funny things to me to make me learn to hunt. 1163 01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:06,279 We'd be in a pick-up, and whether it was a rabbit or a deer, summer or winter, 1164 01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:09,279 we'd be driving along and he would see some game, 1165 01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:12,757 and all he would do is turn the engine off and sit there and not say a word. 1166 01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:14,599 And I would have to find the animal 1167 01:33:14,720 --> 01:33:17,155 and get out of the vehicle and go take a shot. 1168 01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:21,230 But, no, he challenged me. 1169 01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:23,955 My dad challenged me in many ways. That was just one way. 1170 01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:31,391 And I think that he would be really tickled 1171 01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:34,359 to be able to tell the people back home at the coffee shop, 1172 01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:37,479 and when I say coffee shop, I mean the Dairy Queen, 1173 01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:39,637 that his son is out hunting a lion. 1174 01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:43,037 I think if he was around, he would really get a big kick out of that. 1175 01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:54,037 It would be better if it was a little bit up. 1176 01:33:54,160 --> 01:33:57,278 Yeah. But it'll work, but if you can make it up a little bit. 1177 01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:00,754 Down just a bit. Up. Right there. 1178 01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:41,670 I wanna get his hair patterns right. 1179 01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:44,918 You wouldn't believe it, but hair patterns are very important. 1180 01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:48,520 It's not gonna look alive if it looks mangy. 1181 01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:56,231 I actually have nothing of myself. I've never kept a piece of work, ever. 1182 01:34:56,360 --> 01:34:59,956 One day I'll probably end up buying a skin from a zoo, 1183 01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:02,037 an animal that's, you know, expired 1184 01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:04,755 and creating my own little private museum. 1185 01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:10,237 Even if it's private, it's still something 1186 01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:13,114 that will preserve this when it's long gone, 1187 01:35:13,240 --> 01:35:16,074 which is inevitable with the way we carry on in this world. 1188 01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:23,872 People killing animals for the wrong reasons, i. e. poaching, 1189 01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:29,155 using them for completely irrational, what do you call it, illogical reasons, 1190 01:35:29,320 --> 01:35:32,996 like medicine that doesn't work, it's just a fantasy. 1191 01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:38,758 And besides that, the displacement of their natural habitat. 1192 01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:40,678 They've got nowhere else to go. 1193 01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:44,919 They come into conflict with people, they always come second. 1194 01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:50,432 So there's that too. Animals will end up one day behind cages, 1195 01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:52,557 like we have in zoos, but on a larger scale, 1196 01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:55,878 or just fantasies that people talk about. 1197 01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:57,639 "One day there were these animals." 1198 01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:00,434 So this might do justice to them at least, 1199 01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:03,837 or at least that's what I aim for. Cos if they do become extinct one day, 1200 01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:07,516 then it's something to show the world what they looked like. 1201 01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:09,791 There we go. Get the clear acrylic. 1202 01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:46,759 I really feel as if they know that they're in danger. 1203 01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:55,880 They know that they're not equipped to avoid extinction. 1204 01:37:02,280 --> 01:37:05,557 It is humans that have messed up their lives. 1205 01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:10,636 We are to blame. 1206 01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:22,913 And it makes me understand that I cannot give up. 1207 01:37:39,160 --> 01:37:43,632 Why should we save any species from extinction? 1208 01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:49,799 It's almost like, "Why should we breathe?" 1209 01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:57,196 It's because it's us. Surely we want our world to survive. 1210 01:37:58,920 --> 01:38:02,118 We want our world to be a better place. 1211 01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:32,993 Oh, my. 1212 01:38:34,160 --> 01:38:35,799 Ready? 1213 01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:39,150 Philip. 1214 01:38:40,440 --> 01:38:42,750 Fantastic, bud. An excellent, excellent shot. 1215 01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:50,559 My gosh. 1216 01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:26,639 Move. 1217 01:39:37,160 --> 01:39:39,516 He just laid down on the sticks, didn't he? 1218 01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:46,398 That was a good idea. 1219 01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:16,390 You don't want those to get a hold of you, I promise you that. 1220 01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:22,677 Those teeth are just absolutely magnificent. 1221 01:40:25,880 --> 01:40:29,669 What a mane. Look at that red. And the black. 1222 01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:33,831 Black on his ears. 1223 01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:35,872 Green eyes. 1224 01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:42,520 And he is an old, old male. Really a one of a kind. 1225 01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:47,834 I made the decision several months ago that I was coming to hunt lion, 1226 01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:49,394 and this is my trophy, 1227 01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:52,558 and there's not any bureaucrat that can take it away from me. 1228 01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:02,235 OK, Martin, can we set him up to take some pictures? 1229 01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:05,834 BTI Studios 1230 01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:14,430 English 104737

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