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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:29,200 Subtitles by explosiveskull 2 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:56,819 Let's just be real quiet, 3 00:00:56,821 --> 00:00:58,992 'cause there's a lot of ram today. 4 00:01:02,294 --> 00:01:03,663 I hope I get a big one. 5 00:01:05,130 --> 00:01:06,729 Are you ready to shoot a big one? 6 00:01:06,731 --> 00:01:09,232 - Yeah. - Well, we're gonna try. 7 00:01:09,234 --> 00:01:11,101 Looks like there was some deer back there. 8 00:01:11,103 --> 00:01:12,538 Yeah, there's deer everywhere. 9 00:01:14,672 --> 00:01:17,173 Better get one. 10 00:01:17,175 --> 00:01:19,478 You think I can shoot that one? 11 00:01:21,380 --> 00:01:23,580 We have to be able to age him. 12 00:01:23,582 --> 00:01:25,749 We have to be able to tell how old he is 13 00:01:25,751 --> 00:01:28,318 before we can make that decision. 14 00:01:28,320 --> 00:01:30,723 She's gonna walk up to here, she's curious. 15 00:01:33,325 --> 00:01:35,359 - Those are two bucks right there. - Yeah. 16 00:01:35,361 --> 00:01:36,928 That's a good one. 17 00:01:49,775 --> 00:01:51,577 Okay, just get comfortable and get ready. 18 00:01:52,043 --> 00:01:53,476 Take your time. 19 00:01:53,478 --> 00:01:56,516 And then aim just to the right leg of the feeder, okay? 20 00:01:57,181 --> 00:01:58,381 You can wait if you want, 21 00:01:58,383 --> 00:02:00,585 but that's a shelter shot right there. 22 00:02:09,327 --> 00:02:10,961 You put him down, son. 23 00:02:10,963 --> 00:02:12,094 Where's that spike? 24 00:02:13,599 --> 00:02:15,365 Oh, he's getting up, Dad. 25 00:02:15,367 --> 00:02:16,835 He's not going anywhere, don't worry. 26 00:02:21,906 --> 00:02:23,240 You shot the doe. 27 00:02:23,242 --> 00:02:25,308 - That's a spike. - Oh. 28 00:02:25,310 --> 00:02:27,013 Okay, let's go. Hold that. 29 00:02:27,845 --> 00:02:29,712 Yes! 30 00:02:29,714 --> 00:02:32,314 Are your hands shaking? 31 00:02:32,316 --> 00:02:33,819 All right, let's go. 32 00:02:40,258 --> 00:02:42,058 Good job, buddy. 33 00:02:42,060 --> 00:02:43,860 Look at the horns on this guy. 34 00:02:43,862 --> 00:02:45,327 Whoo! Look at that. 35 00:02:45,329 --> 00:02:47,632 That's a textbook shot, Jasper. 36 00:02:50,168 --> 00:02:51,636 Hold this gun like this. 37 00:02:52,770 --> 00:02:54,570 - How's that? - That's good. 38 00:02:54,572 --> 00:02:56,441 I need the head up like this, okay? 39 00:02:59,945 --> 00:03:01,478 'Cause if it's young, it doesn't-- 40 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,612 Correct. Let's try that. 41 00:03:03,614 --> 00:03:05,951 Okay. Oh, that's what we want right there. 42 00:03:06,285 --> 00:03:07,884 Smile. 43 00:03:07,886 --> 00:03:09,218 First trophy buck. 44 00:03:10,621 --> 00:03:12,588 Okay, go like this. 45 00:03:12,590 --> 00:03:14,927 Too tired? One more. Smile and we're done. 46 00:03:18,130 --> 00:03:19,862 Okay 47 00:03:19,864 --> 00:03:21,730 As they say, that's history. 48 00:03:21,732 --> 00:03:23,566 No more doe and spike coming for you. 49 00:03:23,568 --> 00:03:24,904 You're under the big trophies. 50 00:04:27,699 --> 00:04:28,931 - You got it? - Yeah. 51 00:04:28,933 --> 00:04:31,536 All right. One, and two, and three. 52 00:04:32,103 --> 00:04:33,702 Bring, bring, bring. 53 00:04:33,704 --> 00:04:34,906 One, two, three. Go. 54 00:04:41,413 --> 00:04:43,512 Short deep breaths. 55 00:04:43,514 --> 00:04:45,151 Make sure that the breathing's good. 56 00:04:45,950 --> 00:04:47,018 Stable. 57 00:04:48,452 --> 00:04:49,688 Three-eighty. 58 00:04:52,690 --> 00:04:54,123 Here it goes. 59 00:05:15,813 --> 00:05:18,517 Use the brush. Use the brush. 60 00:05:23,988 --> 00:05:25,791 - Injecting. - Yeah. 61 00:05:27,592 --> 00:05:29,728 We gotta run on this on the side, guys. Let's go. 62 00:05:31,729 --> 00:05:33,665 The operation goes very quickly. 63 00:05:34,298 --> 00:05:35,635 It's painless. 64 00:05:36,334 --> 00:05:38,601 Probably less danger 65 00:05:38,603 --> 00:05:41,306 than a human being having his wisdom tooth out. 66 00:05:42,940 --> 00:05:46,443 He will be back with his friends within minutes. 67 00:05:46,445 --> 00:05:48,178 It'll take about two years 68 00:05:48,180 --> 00:05:51,080 before he goes through the same procedure again. 69 00:05:51,082 --> 00:05:53,750 And we know that the poachers prefer 70 00:05:53,752 --> 00:05:56,952 rhinos with long horns and pointed horns. 71 00:05:56,954 --> 00:06:00,423 Every two years to save his life, I think 72 00:06:00,425 --> 00:06:02,157 if he had an opinion to give to you, 73 00:06:02,159 --> 00:06:08,263 he would say, "I'm very happy to sacrifice my horn 74 00:06:08,265 --> 00:06:10,168 in order to save my life." 75 00:06:11,036 --> 00:06:13,435 There he is, already walking normally. 76 00:06:13,437 --> 00:06:15,171 He looks fine. 77 00:06:43,834 --> 00:06:46,202 I truly believe that I have the recipe 78 00:06:46,204 --> 00:06:49,138 to save the rhino from extinction. 79 00:06:49,140 --> 00:06:51,508 Sell the horns, keep the rhinos alive 80 00:06:51,510 --> 00:06:53,045 and breeding more and more. 81 00:06:53,911 --> 00:06:56,578 I will give you a challenge. 82 00:06:56,580 --> 00:06:59,114 Give me one animal that's gone extinct 83 00:06:59,116 --> 00:07:02,354 while farmers were breeding it and making money out of it. 84 00:07:03,021 --> 00:07:04,486 There's not one. 85 00:07:04,488 --> 00:07:05,358 Not one. 86 00:08:41,552 --> 00:08:42,787 That's a dorper lamb. 87 00:08:43,888 --> 00:08:45,420 That's what we do. 88 00:08:45,422 --> 00:08:47,025 We raise babies. 89 00:08:48,493 --> 00:08:50,860 We feed 'em, we keep the predators out of 'em, 90 00:08:50,862 --> 00:08:54,997 and we try to breed good genetics, 91 00:08:54,999 --> 00:08:56,866 in order to raise the next generation. 92 00:08:56,868 --> 00:09:00,035 All right. I've got your friend. 93 00:09:00,037 --> 00:09:02,438 Your little brother. Let's go. 94 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,841 And so those lambs will be three months old when they're weaned, 95 00:09:04,843 --> 00:09:07,910 and they will go to a small packer in Central Texas, 96 00:09:07,912 --> 00:09:10,045 and that lamb will be harvested, 97 00:09:10,047 --> 00:09:13,716 and typically will go into your high end grocery chains, 98 00:09:13,718 --> 00:09:16,122 and then to a few specialty restaurants. 99 00:09:25,296 --> 00:09:28,364 I think we have a problem of people thinking that all animals are pets. 100 00:09:28,366 --> 00:09:30,033 I don't think you can explain that to people. 101 00:09:30,035 --> 00:09:31,701 If they don't understand that you raise a chicken 102 00:09:31,703 --> 00:09:34,102 to kill a chicken, to eat a chicken, um... 103 00:09:34,104 --> 00:09:35,505 If they can't understand that, 104 00:09:35,507 --> 00:09:37,941 they're next to an infantile frame of mind 105 00:09:37,943 --> 00:09:40,510 that I don't know how to, how to get in their mind. 106 00:09:40,512 --> 00:09:43,379 All I can tell 'em is I love raising those animals. 107 00:09:43,381 --> 00:09:45,280 I love those lambs. 108 00:09:45,282 --> 00:09:48,384 Even the ones that are gonna be somebody's lamb chops 109 00:09:48,386 --> 00:09:50,819 this summer for July 4th. 110 00:09:50,821 --> 00:09:53,558 But that's what they're for, they're not for anything else. 111 00:10:07,705 --> 00:10:09,908 The big one. The biggest there is. 112 00:10:25,556 --> 00:10:27,959 Pull him, to the side. 113 00:10:39,103 --> 00:10:40,205 Get him. 114 00:10:56,854 --> 00:10:58,224 Keep it on the grass. 115 00:11:14,204 --> 00:11:16,305 You are closing his nose. He must breathe. 116 00:11:16,307 --> 00:11:17,976 You can't put your hand there. 117 00:11:18,676 --> 00:11:20,476 Let me close your nose also. 118 00:11:30,220 --> 00:11:31,456 Three point six. 119 00:11:32,056 --> 00:11:34,026 Okay. Thank you, guys. 120 00:11:35,359 --> 00:11:37,393 You know, there's a big industry in our country. 121 00:11:37,395 --> 00:11:38,394 Not just the crocodiles. 122 00:11:38,396 --> 00:11:40,462 The lions, the sables, the buffalo. 123 00:11:40,464 --> 00:11:43,301 Everything is being bred for a purpose at the end of the day. 124 00:11:46,003 --> 00:11:48,837 So, yeah, sure. Some of them will be hunted. 125 00:11:48,839 --> 00:11:51,774 We, as humans, are going to eat it, 126 00:11:51,776 --> 00:11:53,608 we're going to use the skin, 127 00:11:53,610 --> 00:11:55,712 and that's the cycle of life. 128 00:12:01,719 --> 00:12:04,322 John! John! 129 00:12:08,693 --> 00:12:11,026 Hello? Yes. 130 00:12:42,926 --> 00:12:44,092 Slowly, slowly, slowly. 131 00:12:47,065 --> 00:12:48,765 These are still wild animals, 132 00:12:48,767 --> 00:12:51,800 even if they've been kept in captivity like this. 133 00:12:51,802 --> 00:12:54,072 They will kill you in an instant and eat you up. 134 00:12:55,672 --> 00:12:57,173 So then, once it's closed up, 135 00:12:57,175 --> 00:12:59,976 you load it on, and it's ready for transport 136 00:12:59,978 --> 00:13:02,046 to its next destination. 137 00:13:39,217 --> 00:13:40,683 If you don't come to Vegas, 138 00:13:40,685 --> 00:13:44,319 I think your business will eventually won't make it. 139 00:13:44,321 --> 00:13:46,521 This is the place to come. 140 00:13:46,523 --> 00:13:49,558 And everyone tries to be better than the next person. 141 00:13:49,560 --> 00:13:53,529 Doesn't matter if it's a breed in lions, or buffalo, or sable. 142 00:13:53,531 --> 00:13:55,965 It's a passion to have your wild game 143 00:13:55,967 --> 00:13:57,366 and be able to breed them, 144 00:13:57,368 --> 00:14:00,535 and make sure you get better quality and genetics 145 00:14:00,537 --> 00:14:02,474 and that you're actually proud of it. 146 00:14:08,113 --> 00:14:09,812 The Safari Club International Show 147 00:14:09,814 --> 00:14:12,651 is the largest hunting convention in the planet. 148 00:14:14,551 --> 00:14:18,587 We have 2,000 booths that are out there on the floor. 149 00:14:18,589 --> 00:14:22,725 We'll probably run 20,000 different folks through here 150 00:14:22,727 --> 00:14:25,327 from all over the world. 151 00:14:25,329 --> 00:14:28,597 And you'll be able to see anything that you want 152 00:14:28,599 --> 00:14:31,867 in terms of hunting, hunting support, 153 00:14:31,869 --> 00:14:33,068 and conservation. 154 00:14:36,940 --> 00:14:38,975 I know that a lot of people are confused 155 00:14:38,977 --> 00:14:42,812 how hunting and conservation go together. 156 00:14:42,814 --> 00:14:46,281 Hunt South Africa on a ten-day plains game hunt for two hunters. 157 00:14:46,283 --> 00:14:49,318 About two hours ago there was an auction item 158 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,353 that was an elephant hunt. 159 00:14:51,355 --> 00:14:53,021 Twenty thousand and 22,500. Let's go. 160 00:14:53,023 --> 00:14:54,923 Blow 'em out of the water, 22,500. 161 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:00,096 And that elephant hunt sold for about $50,000. 162 00:15:00,098 --> 00:15:02,597 And that money will all go back 163 00:15:02,599 --> 00:15:03,868 into conservation. 164 00:15:04,868 --> 00:15:06,635 Sold! Right there. 165 00:15:06,637 --> 00:15:08,603 Eighteen thousand dollars. Eighteen. 166 00:15:14,278 --> 00:15:16,077 And model is not included. 167 00:15:18,550 --> 00:15:20,683 "I don't know," my little granddaughter says. 168 00:15:20,685 --> 00:15:23,186 "I don't know why my grandma wants to shoot a zebra." 169 00:15:24,555 --> 00:15:26,154 So I don't know. I'm losing face with my little... 170 00:15:26,156 --> 00:15:27,923 my three-year-old little granddaughter, 171 00:15:27,925 --> 00:15:29,558 because I'm gonna go shoot a zebra. 172 00:15:30,561 --> 00:15:33,295 And crocodiles are really mean. 173 00:15:33,297 --> 00:15:35,497 So I don't feel bad about killing one of those. 174 00:15:35,499 --> 00:15:38,201 Besides that, I want a pair of boots. 175 00:15:38,203 --> 00:15:40,139 And a purse, and a wallet. 176 00:15:40,637 --> 00:15:41,772 And a belt. 177 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,141 You can not only pick the species you want, 178 00:15:46,143 --> 00:15:48,343 but you can pick the actual animal you want. 179 00:15:48,345 --> 00:15:50,513 So you can see if you want a male or a female. 180 00:15:50,515 --> 00:15:53,716 Older, younger, color, type of fur. 181 00:15:53,718 --> 00:15:56,117 You can just pick whatever animal you want 182 00:15:56,119 --> 00:15:57,886 from the menu that they offer you, 183 00:15:57,888 --> 00:15:59,188 see the price, 184 00:15:59,190 --> 00:16:00,691 and book the kill. 185 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,333 The Safari Club Convention 186 00:16:11,335 --> 00:16:15,136 is the ultimate meat market for exotic species. 187 00:16:15,138 --> 00:16:17,305 And one of the prime attractions 188 00:16:17,307 --> 00:16:21,276 is to get a Big Five grand slam. 189 00:16:21,278 --> 00:16:23,813 And so you shoot one of each of the following species. 190 00:16:23,815 --> 00:16:27,149 Buffalo, which would cost you about $8,000 to $9,000, 191 00:16:27,151 --> 00:16:28,851 leopards for about 20, 192 00:16:28,853 --> 00:16:30,885 elephants for 45, 193 00:16:30,887 --> 00:16:32,654 lions for 50,000, 194 00:16:32,656 --> 00:16:35,293 and the most expensive, because it's the rarest, 195 00:16:35,993 --> 00:16:39,428 the rhino for $350,000. 196 00:16:39,430 --> 00:16:41,029 So there's all this sort of stuff 197 00:16:41,031 --> 00:16:43,765 that encourages this collecting, 198 00:16:43,767 --> 00:16:46,501 this obsessiveness for more and more and more, 199 00:16:46,503 --> 00:16:49,404 and the status is applied to the individual hunter 200 00:16:49,406 --> 00:16:50,675 who achieves those ends. 201 00:16:53,143 --> 00:16:54,644 I happened to be at Safari Club 202 00:16:54,646 --> 00:16:56,379 and they were discussing fishing wildlife 203 00:16:56,381 --> 00:16:58,246 and all the bans they kept instituting, 204 00:16:58,248 --> 00:17:01,784 and that there was a rumor that they wanted to put lions on the threatened list, 205 00:17:01,786 --> 00:17:04,253 and further regulate their take. 206 00:17:04,255 --> 00:17:05,688 And I decided at that moment, 207 00:17:05,690 --> 00:17:08,524 that if the Big Five was my goal, 208 00:17:08,526 --> 00:17:11,363 then I had to step my plans up drastically. 209 00:17:14,465 --> 00:17:15,701 Feed is ready. 210 00:17:20,071 --> 00:17:21,269 Wait, wait. 211 00:17:21,271 --> 00:17:22,604 And take him. 212 00:17:31,149 --> 00:17:32,484 I love it. 213 00:17:36,921 --> 00:17:39,421 It's exciting to see people get here. 214 00:17:39,423 --> 00:17:42,024 They're going on a big hunt, so they're excited. 215 00:17:42,026 --> 00:17:43,191 They've earned, you know, 216 00:17:43,193 --> 00:17:44,427 they've worked very hard to earn the money 217 00:17:44,429 --> 00:17:46,594 to be able to go pay for this hunt. 218 00:17:46,596 --> 00:17:48,531 And they come here with anticipation, 219 00:17:48,533 --> 00:17:50,666 and they come here with a lot of nervousness, 220 00:17:50,668 --> 00:17:52,638 because in Africa, it is dangerous. 221 00:17:53,904 --> 00:17:55,938 We're right on the edge of a herd of elephants. 222 00:17:55,940 --> 00:17:57,238 Time to get a bull. 223 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,441 You hit him, just keep hitting him again till he's down. 224 00:17:59,443 --> 00:18:00,842 - That sound good? - Sounds good. 225 00:18:00,844 --> 00:18:02,777 Follow me up here. 226 00:18:02,779 --> 00:18:05,313 If you go back a thousand years, 227 00:18:05,315 --> 00:18:08,583 you know, the balance of nature was pretty stable. 228 00:18:08,585 --> 00:18:11,754 Unfortunately, man has kind of screwed this up. 229 00:18:11,756 --> 00:18:14,290 And we have encroached on so much natural land 230 00:18:14,292 --> 00:18:17,560 that the species, all the species, now have to be managed. 231 00:18:17,562 --> 00:18:19,865 For instance, too many elephants in Botswana. 232 00:18:20,898 --> 00:18:22,834 On the right, on the right. There he is. 233 00:18:23,401 --> 00:18:25,133 Hit him again. 234 00:18:25,135 --> 00:18:26,971 He's down. He's down. 235 00:18:28,605 --> 00:18:30,238 Of course, we can't do this with live animals, 236 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:31,974 but it kinda gets you pumped up, 237 00:18:31,976 --> 00:18:33,911 what you're gonna feel on a real deal. 238 00:18:40,617 --> 00:18:42,051 Hunter's remorse. 239 00:18:42,053 --> 00:18:44,723 It's not been something I've experienced recently. 240 00:18:46,391 --> 00:18:48,526 But as a child, I certainly remember it. 241 00:18:57,869 --> 00:19:01,236 When I was a little boy, I remember I had a BB gun. 242 00:19:01,238 --> 00:19:04,105 I can vividly remember my mother telling me 243 00:19:04,107 --> 00:19:06,744 you can go shoot birds, but don't shoot a red bird. 244 00:19:10,148 --> 00:19:11,714 What did I do? 245 00:19:11,716 --> 00:19:13,852 I went and shot a red bird. 246 00:19:18,623 --> 00:19:21,323 And I can still remember holding that bird in my hands 247 00:19:21,325 --> 00:19:23,458 and looking at its beak 248 00:19:23,460 --> 00:19:25,026 and just seeing how beautiful it was, 249 00:19:25,028 --> 00:19:26,498 and how it was made. 250 00:19:27,765 --> 00:19:29,465 Right there in that moment, 251 00:19:29,467 --> 00:19:30,999 I realized that 252 00:19:31,001 --> 00:19:33,904 there is no way I could've loved that bird even more, 253 00:19:34,639 --> 00:19:36,575 even though it was dead. 254 00:19:38,241 --> 00:19:40,144 I think a lot of us as trophy hunters, 255 00:19:40,844 --> 00:19:42,277 feel the same way. 256 00:19:42,279 --> 00:19:44,982 We just want that experience to go 257 00:19:45,783 --> 00:19:47,486 and hunt that animal one time. 258 00:19:49,152 --> 00:19:50,921 We really just want one. 259 00:19:55,892 --> 00:19:56,862 There you go. 260 00:20:05,001 --> 00:20:06,671 What's wrong now, baby? 261 00:20:15,278 --> 00:20:16,579 Yeah, Johnny? 262 00:20:16,581 --> 00:20:18,480 It's not a good morning again this morning. 263 00:20:18,482 --> 00:20:20,484 Oh, fuck. Now what? 264 00:20:22,319 --> 00:20:24,186 It's a dead rhino there. 265 00:20:24,188 --> 00:20:25,424 An adult rhino? 266 00:20:26,289 --> 00:20:28,058 - Yeah. - Fuck. 267 00:20:30,026 --> 00:20:31,496 Has she got a calf, Johnny? 268 00:20:32,529 --> 00:20:34,929 Yeah, she's got a big two-year-old calf. 269 00:20:34,931 --> 00:20:36,799 Two-year-old calf. 270 00:20:36,801 --> 00:20:38,199 Yeah. 271 00:20:39,237 --> 00:20:41,072 Fuck me. It never stops, does it? 272 00:20:42,105 --> 00:20:43,441 Yeah. 273 00:20:50,014 --> 00:20:51,650 Heartbreaking. 274 00:20:58,623 --> 00:21:01,826 Poor calf doesn't know what to do with itself. 275 00:21:33,723 --> 00:21:36,057 So I'll just start with the post mortem, 276 00:21:36,059 --> 00:21:38,092 and then I'll decide how to leave them. 277 00:21:38,094 --> 00:21:39,029 That's fine. 278 00:21:39,462 --> 00:21:40,865 Good. 279 00:21:48,005 --> 00:21:48,940 Good. 280 00:22:37,622 --> 00:22:39,955 The goal of this farm and myself 281 00:22:39,957 --> 00:22:43,094 is to breed 200 rhinos a year. 282 00:22:45,997 --> 00:22:50,565 I have lost quite a few of my breeding stock. 283 00:22:50,567 --> 00:22:53,569 Disease will always be a factor. 284 00:22:53,571 --> 00:22:55,874 Unfortunately, so will poaching. 285 00:22:58,075 --> 00:23:00,879 The odds are stacked against them. 286 00:23:02,013 --> 00:23:03,582 And, um... 287 00:23:04,715 --> 00:23:06,685 I'm always for the underdog. 288 00:23:07,684 --> 00:23:09,853 But more to the point, 289 00:23:10,587 --> 00:23:11,954 I got to know them, 290 00:23:11,956 --> 00:23:15,591 and they are the last animal in the world 291 00:23:15,593 --> 00:23:18,393 that deserves the persecution. 292 00:23:18,395 --> 00:23:19,527 They don't deserve it. 293 00:23:19,529 --> 00:23:23,599 They are the nicest, most user-friendly 294 00:23:23,601 --> 00:23:28,840 animal that wants to stay this side of extinction. 295 00:23:40,351 --> 00:23:43,052 They definitely are the most magical creatures. 296 00:23:43,054 --> 00:23:45,957 I can sit and watch them for hours and hours and hours. 297 00:23:49,526 --> 00:23:50,993 And they're ancient. 298 00:23:50,995 --> 00:23:54,228 They don't look like they belong in today's life. 299 00:23:54,230 --> 00:23:56,000 Yet, they're still here. 300 00:23:58,501 --> 00:24:01,669 I'm hoping that people get a whiff of cases like this, 301 00:24:01,671 --> 00:24:03,505 what we're trying to do here, 302 00:24:03,507 --> 00:24:05,974 that more of them will start thinking of opening their own breeding operations 303 00:24:05,976 --> 00:24:08,342 so that hopefully together we can 304 00:24:08,344 --> 00:24:09,911 revive the numbers 305 00:24:09,913 --> 00:24:12,613 before we destroy another species 306 00:24:12,615 --> 00:24:14,652 because of mankind. 307 00:24:22,927 --> 00:24:25,761 Almost every other wild animal 308 00:24:25,763 --> 00:24:29,732 has to be killed to get what people want. 309 00:24:29,734 --> 00:24:33,368 Whether that is horn, skin, meat. 310 00:24:33,370 --> 00:24:36,170 Rhino is the only exception. 311 00:24:36,172 --> 00:24:41,008 And that's why I concentrate on rhinos. 312 00:24:41,010 --> 00:24:42,477 Because you don't have to hunt them, 313 00:24:42,479 --> 00:24:44,112 you don't have to kill them. 314 00:24:44,114 --> 00:24:46,884 In fact, you shouldn't. Because they're growing gold for you. 315 00:24:49,687 --> 00:24:54,456 The rhino horn belief has been around for millions of years. 316 00:24:54,458 --> 00:24:57,726 Unfortunately, there are more people that believe in the rhino horn 317 00:24:57,728 --> 00:24:59,727 than there are Christians on this earth. 318 00:24:59,729 --> 00:25:01,796 So... 319 00:25:01,798 --> 00:25:03,832 It's very difficult if you're gonna tell 320 00:25:03,834 --> 00:25:05,767 600 million Christians or whatever 321 00:25:05,769 --> 00:25:07,101 that God doesn't exist. 322 00:25:07,103 --> 00:25:10,371 By the same token, you're not gonna tell people 323 00:25:10,373 --> 00:25:11,875 rhino horn doesn't work. 324 00:25:13,244 --> 00:25:15,843 This horn weighs about four kilos. 325 00:25:15,845 --> 00:25:17,845 In Vietnam, on the black market, 326 00:25:17,847 --> 00:25:22,117 the retail value of this horn would be about a quarter million dollars. 327 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,419 It's more expensive than gold, 328 00:25:24,421 --> 00:25:26,391 or heroin by weight. 329 00:25:28,292 --> 00:25:30,691 The illogical part of it is that 330 00:25:30,693 --> 00:25:33,262 I have four ton of rhino horn 331 00:25:33,264 --> 00:25:35,429 in expensive security. 332 00:25:35,431 --> 00:25:37,533 Which every conservatively, 333 00:25:37,535 --> 00:25:40,636 I could get $60 million. 334 00:25:40,638 --> 00:25:43,174 But we're not allowed to sell it. 335 00:25:48,578 --> 00:25:51,112 When I started this project, 336 00:25:51,114 --> 00:25:54,384 it was legal to sell rhino horn in South Africa. 337 00:25:55,451 --> 00:25:57,151 In 2009, 338 00:25:57,153 --> 00:26:01,290 our government put a moratorium on the trade in rhino horn. 339 00:26:01,292 --> 00:26:05,430 But since the ban, poaching has skyrocketed. 340 00:26:21,612 --> 00:26:23,312 The very crook 341 00:26:23,314 --> 00:26:26,747 who now will kill a rhino and sell it illegally, 342 00:26:26,749 --> 00:26:28,883 if he could sell the horn legally, 343 00:26:28,885 --> 00:26:30,384 he will never kill a rhino. 344 00:26:30,386 --> 00:26:32,956 Who would kill the hen that lays the golden egg? 345 00:26:56,113 --> 00:26:58,583 Maybe somebody's watching for crocs, I hope. 346 00:27:04,555 --> 00:27:05,890 Whoo! 347 00:27:06,990 --> 00:27:08,593 A little hole right there. 348 00:27:10,427 --> 00:27:11,996 Ah, it's all good. 349 00:27:52,937 --> 00:27:55,603 This is one of the last destinations 350 00:27:55,605 --> 00:27:57,605 probably in Africa, 351 00:27:57,607 --> 00:27:59,140 where there is no fences. 352 00:27:59,142 --> 00:28:01,442 It's absolutely open. 353 00:28:01,444 --> 00:28:04,081 You have to work for your trophy. 354 00:28:04,782 --> 00:28:07,082 We believe here that 355 00:28:07,084 --> 00:28:09,817 if you want to hunt, it's all in the foot. 356 00:28:09,819 --> 00:28:11,419 It's walk and stalk. 357 00:28:11,421 --> 00:28:15,157 It's giving also the animal a chance. 358 00:28:15,159 --> 00:28:18,326 So for us, the three things is, if he hears you, 359 00:28:18,328 --> 00:28:21,095 he smells you, or he sees you, 360 00:28:21,097 --> 00:28:22,499 it's game over. 361 00:28:34,311 --> 00:28:36,844 The buildup to pulling that trigger 362 00:28:36,846 --> 00:28:39,413 in my case, started 18 months ago. 363 00:28:39,415 --> 00:28:42,249 So it's a long buildup to that point. 364 00:28:42,251 --> 00:28:44,719 Preparation, planning, buying plane tickets, 365 00:28:44,721 --> 00:28:46,487 paying the deposit on the safari, 366 00:28:46,489 --> 00:28:48,290 talking with your PH about the plans. 367 00:28:48,292 --> 00:28:50,124 What are we gonna do? How are gonna hunt them? 368 00:28:50,126 --> 00:28:52,296 All this stalking, planning. 369 00:28:53,963 --> 00:28:56,400 And then, finally with the animals coming, 370 00:28:58,602 --> 00:29:00,138 and then the animal's there. 371 00:29:07,276 --> 00:29:08,680 And then you pull the trigger. 372 00:29:09,712 --> 00:29:12,147 And then, boom, you got him. 373 00:29:12,149 --> 00:29:14,552 And then all of that anticipation changes 374 00:29:15,119 --> 00:29:16,551 into a different emotion 375 00:29:16,553 --> 00:29:19,053 of joy and relief, 376 00:29:19,055 --> 00:29:21,390 and excitement, and anticipation. 377 00:29:21,392 --> 00:29:23,527 Because you wanna go over to him and see 378 00:29:25,161 --> 00:29:26,762 what does he look like, 379 00:29:26,764 --> 00:29:28,429 what does he feel like, 380 00:29:28,431 --> 00:29:29,997 what does he... 381 00:29:29,999 --> 00:29:31,134 where did he fall. 382 00:29:59,962 --> 00:30:01,263 Which one here? Look at that. 383 00:30:01,265 --> 00:30:03,468 There's one here on the left, okay? 384 00:30:05,768 --> 00:30:06,636 Wait. 385 00:30:16,013 --> 00:30:17,711 Wait. 386 00:30:17,713 --> 00:30:20,450 No, no, no. That's a young bull. 387 00:30:22,452 --> 00:30:23,687 Let's go back. 388 00:30:34,030 --> 00:30:36,331 Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. 389 00:30:36,333 --> 00:30:37,602 Philip. 390 00:30:41,939 --> 00:30:43,207 Let's go. 391 00:30:44,908 --> 00:30:46,274 I think it's too dangerous. 392 00:30:46,276 --> 00:30:48,275 Too many... They're too close up, and... 393 00:30:48,277 --> 00:30:50,178 All the ones I saw had good tusks, the big ones. 394 00:30:50,180 --> 00:30:51,780 Yeah, but they're female. 395 00:30:51,782 --> 00:30:53,014 It's all females. 396 00:30:53,016 --> 00:30:55,449 We're looking for an old, old animal 397 00:30:55,451 --> 00:30:57,919 that we can harvest for meat. 398 00:30:57,921 --> 00:30:59,556 Exactly. Keep going. 399 00:31:27,718 --> 00:31:30,217 For the better part of two centuries now, 400 00:31:30,219 --> 00:31:31,686 you've had this hunting culture, 401 00:31:31,688 --> 00:31:34,089 first in Britain, and now in America, 402 00:31:34,091 --> 00:31:37,292 that it's somehow rugged and exciting 403 00:31:37,294 --> 00:31:39,160 to be out in the wilderness and hunting. 404 00:31:39,162 --> 00:31:40,695 And Teddy Roosevelt bought into that 405 00:31:40,697 --> 00:31:42,429 when he hunted thousands of animals, 406 00:31:42,431 --> 00:31:44,666 including something like 5,000 mammals, 407 00:31:44,668 --> 00:31:47,338 and started to record all of these kills. 408 00:31:49,273 --> 00:31:51,305 The hunters' accounts of what they're doing 409 00:31:51,307 --> 00:31:53,307 makes me sick to my stomach sometimes 410 00:31:53,309 --> 00:31:56,277 about finding this amazing bull elephant 411 00:31:56,279 --> 00:31:58,213 and putting a bullet in the animal's head. 412 00:31:58,215 --> 00:32:01,283 And that gives them a rush of excitement. 413 00:32:01,285 --> 00:32:04,785 Now, they cloak that in money and conservation, 414 00:32:04,787 --> 00:32:06,053 and helping people. 415 00:32:06,055 --> 00:32:08,823 So, yeah, Roosevelt is declaring all these parks national parks 416 00:32:08,825 --> 00:32:10,457 in protecting wilderness, 417 00:32:10,459 --> 00:32:12,826 but he's also killing thousands of animals at the same time, 418 00:32:12,828 --> 00:32:15,030 because he wanted to be able to do that hunting. 419 00:32:15,032 --> 00:32:18,236 He wanted to be able to consume those wild animals. 420 00:32:22,972 --> 00:32:25,607 The hunting industry is trying to convince people 421 00:32:25,609 --> 00:32:27,909 that the way it was in Roosevelt's time 422 00:32:27,911 --> 00:32:29,346 is the way it still is today. 423 00:32:31,614 --> 00:32:34,114 A hunter was somebody who was willing to go out, 424 00:32:34,116 --> 00:32:36,517 spend three weeks walking around on foot, 425 00:32:36,519 --> 00:32:39,521 tracking an elephant, tracking a lion, 426 00:32:39,523 --> 00:32:42,023 to shoot it and take home a trophy. 427 00:32:42,025 --> 00:32:44,562 There was a challenge, there was a sense of sport. 428 00:32:46,430 --> 00:32:49,563 But what has happened in the last 10 or 15 years 429 00:32:49,565 --> 00:32:54,034 has been a growing segment of the hunting demographic, 430 00:32:54,036 --> 00:32:57,005 which refer to as the shooters. 431 00:32:57,007 --> 00:32:59,407 And the shooters may have to spend 432 00:32:59,409 --> 00:33:02,811 as much money as it takes to get a three-week permit. 433 00:33:02,813 --> 00:33:06,180 But if they can kill everything in the first two days, 434 00:33:06,182 --> 00:33:08,182 they'll do it and they'll fly home. 435 00:33:08,184 --> 00:33:10,118 It's that mentality 436 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,086 that really fed the birth 437 00:33:12,088 --> 00:33:14,457 of the canned hunting industry. 438 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,595 Basically. you're going shopping at some import/export place, 439 00:33:21,597 --> 00:33:24,032 and you've got your rug, you've got your mantelpiece. 440 00:33:24,034 --> 00:33:25,367 But it's not sport. 441 00:33:25,369 --> 00:33:26,704 It's just killing. 442 00:33:43,085 --> 00:33:44,354 Shit. I'm out of bullets. 443 00:33:45,822 --> 00:33:47,421 Come here, come here, come here. 444 00:33:47,423 --> 00:33:48,692 Come here, come here, come here. 445 00:33:53,863 --> 00:33:54,998 Where is it now? 446 00:34:00,304 --> 00:34:03,438 That is one big ass fucking crocodile. 447 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,105 Yeah. 448 00:34:05,107 --> 00:34:07,775 I'm gonna tell you, the adrenalin has been worth every penny of it. 449 00:34:07,777 --> 00:34:09,210 So we can fetch it out. 450 00:34:09,212 --> 00:34:10,377 Something's coming out there. 451 00:34:10,379 --> 00:34:11,980 It's coming out there. 452 00:34:11,982 --> 00:34:13,181 Oh, fuck. 453 00:34:13,183 --> 00:34:14,415 That's... Oh, my gosh. 454 00:34:14,417 --> 00:34:16,250 That's not yours. Is that yours? 455 00:34:16,252 --> 00:34:17,518 - I don't know. - I don't know. 456 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,953 No, but I wanna shoot her, anyway. 457 00:34:19,955 --> 00:34:22,723 I'm gonna have two. 458 00:34:22,725 --> 00:34:24,525 That can't be yours swimming like that. 459 00:34:24,527 --> 00:34:25,930 That's impossible. 460 00:34:26,596 --> 00:34:27,761 Oh, no, that is. 461 00:34:27,763 --> 00:34:29,263 - It keeps, like... - That is. 462 00:34:29,265 --> 00:34:30,665 It is? 463 00:34:30,667 --> 00:34:32,067 Watch. I wanna shoot this one. 464 00:34:32,069 --> 00:34:33,935 I'm not, I'm not sure. 465 00:34:33,937 --> 00:34:34,939 Is that the one? 466 00:34:39,076 --> 00:34:40,507 Here, I'll shoot it with this one. 467 00:34:40,509 --> 00:34:42,345 Let me put my beer down, not drop it. 468 00:34:57,326 --> 00:34:59,594 - See? - What's this? 469 00:34:59,596 --> 00:35:01,129 - See blood. - Blood? 470 00:35:01,131 --> 00:35:03,431 For the last crocodile. 471 00:35:03,433 --> 00:35:05,469 - Oh, the last crocodile. Oh. - Yeah. 472 00:35:06,435 --> 00:35:08,203 It's just waiting for us to get close. 473 00:35:08,205 --> 00:35:10,538 Oh, it's moving its eyes. 474 00:35:10,540 --> 00:35:11,438 Hmm? 475 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:12,877 Why shoot it again? 476 00:35:14,745 --> 00:35:17,714 You have to just shoot in the brain. 477 00:35:23,386 --> 00:35:24,689 All right! 478 00:35:25,989 --> 00:35:27,054 Now it's dead. 479 00:35:27,056 --> 00:35:28,690 Oh, yeah, motherfucker. 480 00:35:32,529 --> 00:35:33,995 Now he's destroyed. 481 00:35:33,997 --> 00:35:34,862 No, they'll fix it. 482 00:35:34,864 --> 00:35:36,600 They'll fix it. They'll fix it. 483 00:35:37,366 --> 00:35:39,466 That's what taxidermists do. 484 00:35:39,468 --> 00:35:40,467 That's why you paid him. 485 00:35:43,105 --> 00:35:45,442 I'm done for the day. It's party time, boys. 486 00:36:03,058 --> 00:36:04,426 How much for that sucker? 487 00:36:04,428 --> 00:36:07,060 That white one? That's a great white lion. 488 00:36:07,062 --> 00:36:08,897 It'll be about 35. 489 00:36:08,899 --> 00:36:10,098 Thirty-five thousand? 490 00:36:10,100 --> 00:36:11,966 How much was Cecil? 491 00:36:11,968 --> 00:36:13,971 Cecil was expensive, I think. 50,000. 492 00:36:17,506 --> 00:36:19,440 Make sure all your tags and things are on, 493 00:36:19,442 --> 00:36:21,946 so there's no mistake on the trophies, okay? 494 00:36:23,413 --> 00:36:25,647 Skin it now, salt it, put it in, 495 00:36:25,649 --> 00:36:29,116 so that we know tomorrow when they start with new animals, 496 00:36:29,118 --> 00:36:31,555 we finish with the day's work. 497 00:36:37,828 --> 00:36:40,594 I was in the cattle industry for like 10-12 years. 498 00:36:40,596 --> 00:36:44,098 And because we had a lot of game in the area, 499 00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:46,301 I had some other outfitters those years 500 00:36:46,303 --> 00:36:47,669 which always contact me and say, 501 00:36:47,671 --> 00:36:49,536 "Please, Christo. Can I bring a client over? 502 00:36:49,538 --> 00:36:51,406 We'd like to come and hunt." 503 00:36:51,408 --> 00:36:53,373 And I said, "Okay, fine. Bring the clients." 504 00:36:53,375 --> 00:36:55,342 And then I start meeting overseas clients. 505 00:36:55,344 --> 00:36:59,482 And it looked to me like it can become a good business. 506 00:37:03,620 --> 00:37:05,920 So, what we offer our clients is, 507 00:37:05,922 --> 00:37:08,989 there's the lodge, there's a jacuzzi. 508 00:37:08,991 --> 00:37:10,625 And in the hunting area, 509 00:37:10,627 --> 00:37:12,960 you can drive around, try and spot the animals. 510 00:37:12,962 --> 00:37:15,629 You get off and you try and get the client 511 00:37:15,631 --> 00:37:19,902 up to a point where he can have a clear, good shot at that animal. 512 00:37:24,174 --> 00:37:25,406 Good shot, good shot. 513 00:37:25,408 --> 00:37:26,741 Good shot, buddy. 514 00:37:26,743 --> 00:37:28,375 And normally, in the middle of the day, 515 00:37:28,377 --> 00:37:29,877 when it's really hot, 516 00:37:29,879 --> 00:37:32,179 we bring the clients into the blind area 517 00:37:32,181 --> 00:37:34,382 where they can sit down for the rest of the afternoon. 518 00:37:34,384 --> 00:37:36,783 So it makes it really comfortable. 519 00:37:36,785 --> 00:37:40,754 The client can stand straight up and be able to shoot 520 00:37:40,756 --> 00:37:43,525 through that slot over there. 521 00:37:43,527 --> 00:37:45,692 This may be like 25 yards. 522 00:37:45,694 --> 00:37:47,862 We will put some feeders out here as well, 523 00:37:47,864 --> 00:37:50,632 so that the animals can only come into the certain areas 524 00:37:50,634 --> 00:37:52,567 where there's water for drinking. 525 00:37:52,569 --> 00:37:55,036 Then we clear out around all these water points 526 00:37:55,038 --> 00:37:56,337 where the blinds are, 527 00:37:56,339 --> 00:37:58,806 because you would like to see the animals when they come in. 528 00:37:58,808 --> 00:38:01,174 And that makes it an exciting hunt. 529 00:38:01,176 --> 00:38:03,948 And it makes it a natural environment, which is very important. 530 00:38:06,015 --> 00:38:08,750 Why don't you kill? You're just wasting petrol. 531 00:38:08,752 --> 00:38:11,886 Yeah, it's no photo safari here. You got the wrong guide. 532 00:38:11,888 --> 00:38:14,187 You should get a guide which kills things. 533 00:38:15,292 --> 00:38:16,694 Sorry! Okay, sorry! 534 00:38:17,893 --> 00:38:20,328 Just keep in mind, we don't feed no Americans 535 00:38:20,330 --> 00:38:21,929 if they don't shoot something. 536 00:38:24,401 --> 00:38:26,770 I would love to have a giraffe. 537 00:38:27,837 --> 00:38:30,471 I probably would shoot it myself, too. 538 00:38:30,473 --> 00:38:31,739 I wanna hear some more. 539 00:38:31,741 --> 00:38:33,040 He says it's too expensive 540 00:38:33,042 --> 00:38:35,777 and we don't have room for it in our house. 541 00:38:35,779 --> 00:38:38,179 I will find a room for it in our house, 542 00:38:38,181 --> 00:38:42,183 even if I probably would have to build onto the trophy room, 543 00:38:42,185 --> 00:38:43,917 which I don't want to. 544 00:38:52,062 --> 00:38:54,761 It's a beautiful animal. I got one of those last year. 545 00:38:54,763 --> 00:38:57,998 I still have a warthog and a baboon 546 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,167 and a bushbuck, 547 00:39:00,169 --> 00:39:01,536 a bushpig, a caracal. 548 00:39:01,538 --> 00:39:03,036 So the list is still pretty big, 549 00:39:03,038 --> 00:39:06,040 and we have the rest of this day and two more days to hunt. 550 00:39:06,042 --> 00:39:09,145 So we'll try to do our best to get most on the list, but... 551 00:39:10,113 --> 00:39:11,047 it's not as easy. 552 00:39:11,982 --> 00:39:14,549 It seems like once we're going for them, 553 00:39:14,551 --> 00:39:15,986 they're a little skittish. 554 00:39:25,694 --> 00:39:29,198 Now we'll just try to get all this grass out of the way. 555 00:39:30,399 --> 00:39:32,201 Wash all of the blood off. 556 00:39:41,745 --> 00:39:43,944 You try and start a plain's game. 557 00:39:43,946 --> 00:39:45,980 You know, animals which I get the feeling, 558 00:39:45,982 --> 00:39:49,250 and get used to our bushing environment. 559 00:39:49,252 --> 00:39:51,386 All right, good. Smile. 560 00:39:51,388 --> 00:39:53,721 And then eventually they got the experience 561 00:39:53,723 --> 00:39:55,960 to allow them to go after the Big Five. 562 00:39:57,627 --> 00:39:59,830 This is the most expensive one. 563 00:40:00,864 --> 00:40:02,797 Damn, that was a good shot. 564 00:40:02,799 --> 00:40:05,033 - Aw, beautiful photo. - And one, two... 565 00:40:05,035 --> 00:40:06,333 - Kiss? - Yes. 566 00:40:07,303 --> 00:40:09,036 Oh, that's a nice one. 567 00:40:09,038 --> 00:40:10,908 I'm happy she got her second one. 568 00:40:11,373 --> 00:40:14,174 And oil's up $2. 569 00:40:14,176 --> 00:40:15,109 What? 570 00:40:15,111 --> 00:40:16,678 - Oil's up $2. - Oil's up $2. 571 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,846 Let's add another one to the list. 572 00:40:18,848 --> 00:40:21,151 Let's add that bitch to the list. 573 00:40:24,154 --> 00:40:26,054 Likely to start really low. 574 00:40:26,056 --> 00:40:28,522 And when we say one naught one million here, 575 00:40:28,524 --> 00:40:29,723 500,00 now. 576 00:40:35,531 --> 00:40:37,498 We have now. I got a one, two now. 577 00:40:40,335 --> 00:40:41,669 I got one 750 now. 578 00:40:41,671 --> 00:40:43,870 I got one 750. Do we have one 750? 579 00:40:43,872 --> 00:40:47,908 Every outfitter, if he has a lot of clients, 580 00:40:47,910 --> 00:40:50,478 will run a good hunting business. 581 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,846 You kind of shoot out your animals, 582 00:40:52,848 --> 00:40:55,051 so you have to buy in new blood. 583 00:40:56,185 --> 00:40:58,786 The breeding is very important, 584 00:40:58,788 --> 00:41:00,420 because that's where the money is. 585 00:41:00,422 --> 00:41:01,755 The money is in the breeding. 586 00:41:12,067 --> 00:41:16,837 We've had buffalo go for between $4 million and $5 million. 587 00:41:16,839 --> 00:41:20,975 And also sable bulls go for $4 million or $5 million. 588 00:41:20,977 --> 00:41:22,909 It's good for the industry. 589 00:41:22,911 --> 00:41:25,045 Very big demand and a good market for it. 590 00:41:25,047 --> 00:41:27,681 And two million six hundred thousand. And done. 591 00:41:31,286 --> 00:41:33,888 You have the capitalist system, 592 00:41:33,890 --> 00:41:34,855 the profit motive, 593 00:41:34,857 --> 00:41:37,591 making money off wildlife. 594 00:41:37,593 --> 00:41:39,794 So it's remarkable development 595 00:41:39,796 --> 00:41:41,295 that in South Africa 596 00:41:41,297 --> 00:41:43,797 they went through an incredible period 597 00:41:43,799 --> 00:41:47,335 of removing nature from their countryside 598 00:41:47,337 --> 00:41:48,902 in the 1800s. 599 00:41:48,904 --> 00:41:52,073 And they literally removed everything. 600 00:41:52,075 --> 00:41:55,109 It's only been in the last 20-25 years 601 00:41:55,111 --> 00:41:57,245 that there has been this recognition 602 00:41:57,247 --> 00:41:59,045 that they could take private land, 603 00:41:59,047 --> 00:42:02,083 and private owners themselves could profit 604 00:42:02,085 --> 00:42:05,252 by restoring these areas. 605 00:42:05,254 --> 00:42:09,323 Now, until recently, this land was mostly used for livestock. 606 00:42:09,325 --> 00:42:12,692 But a lot of people decided, "Well, we could get more revenue 607 00:42:12,694 --> 00:42:15,163 if we do game ranching." 608 00:42:15,165 --> 00:42:17,901 You'd actually get much more money than raising cows. 609 00:42:19,201 --> 00:42:21,435 In this model, you're filling the market 610 00:42:21,437 --> 00:42:25,873 by first killing rare ungulate species like sable and roan 611 00:42:25,875 --> 00:42:27,841 that are still attractive for hunters. 612 00:42:27,843 --> 00:42:29,911 And you can also start breeding your buffaloes 613 00:42:29,913 --> 00:42:31,882 so they have abnormally huge horns. 614 00:42:33,783 --> 00:42:36,083 And then, as the market saturates, 615 00:42:36,085 --> 00:42:38,419 people are thinking, "Well, you know, 616 00:42:38,421 --> 00:42:39,853 I've got all this land, 617 00:42:39,855 --> 00:42:42,392 and we could bring back Big Five." 618 00:42:45,027 --> 00:42:48,998 Now you actually have got a restored ecosystem. 619 00:42:51,334 --> 00:42:54,301 And so this has been a success story. 620 00:42:54,303 --> 00:42:57,004 There are far more lions now in South Africa now 621 00:42:57,006 --> 00:42:58,471 than there were a hundred years ago. 622 00:42:58,473 --> 00:43:02,310 There's far more predators in general in South Africa 623 00:43:02,312 --> 00:43:04,745 than there were a hundred years ago. 624 00:43:04,747 --> 00:43:07,848 Initially, it may have been because this would have involved 625 00:43:07,850 --> 00:43:09,382 the slaughter of some animals, 626 00:43:09,384 --> 00:43:12,319 but then you could go towards a more naturalistic thing 627 00:43:12,321 --> 00:43:14,423 that would not have happened otherwise. 628 00:43:16,859 --> 00:43:19,659 If we're only gonna restrict 629 00:43:19,661 --> 00:43:22,163 what we view as "domesticated animals" 630 00:43:22,165 --> 00:43:24,931 to those species that have been domesticated 631 00:43:24,933 --> 00:43:27,234 hundreds or thousands of years ago, 632 00:43:27,236 --> 00:43:30,904 then we're just gonna see a lot of those species go away. 633 00:43:30,906 --> 00:43:34,674 And I think that there are a few species like rhino 634 00:43:34,676 --> 00:43:36,312 that there should be rhino farms. 635 00:43:38,413 --> 00:43:40,080 And one needs to recognize 636 00:43:40,082 --> 00:43:42,750 that what they've achieved in South Africa 637 00:43:42,752 --> 00:43:45,922 should not be lost. 638 00:44:00,136 --> 00:44:02,270 This was a breeding buffalo bull. 639 00:44:02,272 --> 00:44:05,509 This buffalo bull was bought for millions. 640 00:44:06,709 --> 00:44:08,341 And eventually, 641 00:44:08,343 --> 00:44:10,176 he was done breeding. 642 00:44:10,178 --> 00:44:13,848 And we had to put him out there for hunting. 643 00:44:13,850 --> 00:44:16,317 So we got... A Canadian client came over, 644 00:44:16,319 --> 00:44:18,486 and he was very happy to harvest 645 00:44:18,488 --> 00:44:19,920 such a beautiful trophy. 646 00:44:19,922 --> 00:44:22,390 So nothing goes for waste. Nothing. 647 00:44:22,392 --> 00:44:23,690 Even that animal. 648 00:44:23,692 --> 00:44:25,525 And we hope we will have like maybe, 649 00:44:25,527 --> 00:44:28,497 there's 50 or 70 babies of him running around. 650 00:44:29,098 --> 00:44:30,531 But eventually, one day, 651 00:44:30,533 --> 00:44:31,567 he going to be honored 652 00:44:32,301 --> 00:44:34,268 to put him up on a trophy room, 653 00:44:34,270 --> 00:44:36,069 where someone can go walk in and say, 654 00:44:36,071 --> 00:44:38,205 "You know what? That was a top breeder." 655 00:44:38,207 --> 00:44:39,640 And he'll still be honored today 656 00:44:39,642 --> 00:44:42,176 if you look at him and see this was a great trophy. 657 00:44:42,178 --> 00:44:43,647 He makes a real great trophy. 658 00:44:45,747 --> 00:44:47,281 Do you ever get attached to a lion 659 00:44:47,283 --> 00:44:49,049 that it's hard to release it for a hunt? 660 00:44:49,051 --> 00:44:50,817 Is there some animal like that 661 00:44:50,819 --> 00:44:52,652 that you're like, "Oh! This one I..." 662 00:44:52,654 --> 00:44:54,754 All animals. 663 00:44:54,756 --> 00:44:56,390 Doesn't matter what animal it is. 664 00:44:56,392 --> 00:44:59,962 If you love animals, you'll get attached to them. 665 00:45:00,562 --> 00:45:02,029 You go out there everyday, 666 00:45:02,031 --> 00:45:03,933 you see this animal, you're feeding him. 667 00:45:05,801 --> 00:45:08,868 The buffalo, your sable. Of course. 668 00:45:08,870 --> 00:45:11,540 But there will be a time when you have to let go. 669 00:45:15,111 --> 00:45:16,113 Cut. 670 00:45:19,448 --> 00:45:20,549 You must cut that. 671 00:45:45,707 --> 00:45:46,774 Okay. 672 00:45:53,482 --> 00:45:54,517 Yeah! 673 00:45:57,819 --> 00:45:59,453 Busted a hip. Did you see that? 674 00:45:59,455 --> 00:46:00,420 Congratulations. 675 00:46:03,292 --> 00:46:05,261 - Had him running away. - Yeah. 676 00:46:07,763 --> 00:46:09,165 Oh, my. 677 00:46:17,540 --> 00:46:19,172 He's done. 678 00:47:01,384 --> 00:47:03,250 Maybe if you come to this side? 679 00:47:03,252 --> 00:47:04,984 - Where? - To the chest. 680 00:47:04,986 --> 00:47:07,089 - Right through there? - Yeah. 681 00:47:24,506 --> 00:47:26,509 Okay, let's stand a little bit back. 682 00:47:27,243 --> 00:47:28,875 Then we can both finish. 683 00:47:37,886 --> 00:47:38,754 Cigarette? 684 00:48:18,127 --> 00:48:19,796 Is he an old one, Philip? 685 00:48:23,632 --> 00:48:25,301 No, just a bull. 686 00:48:30,806 --> 00:48:32,342 It doesn't have... 687 00:48:33,475 --> 00:48:36,109 the trophy quality of a big elephant, 688 00:48:36,111 --> 00:48:38,247 and it will never grow big. 689 00:48:38,647 --> 00:48:40,416 So, yeah. 690 00:51:15,937 --> 00:51:17,337 Yeah. 691 00:51:17,339 --> 00:51:18,906 The OU's elephant 692 00:51:18,908 --> 00:51:21,942 is an elephant that we have to hunt for the community. 693 00:51:21,944 --> 00:51:23,042 As part of their quota, 694 00:51:23,044 --> 00:51:27,214 they get some animals that they can harvest for meat. 695 00:51:27,216 --> 00:51:30,083 Fifteen years ago, people poached animals 696 00:51:30,085 --> 00:51:32,553 because they want meat 697 00:51:32,555 --> 00:51:34,554 and there was no value to the animal for them. 698 00:51:34,556 --> 00:51:37,623 Now they know they must protect the wildlife. 699 00:51:37,625 --> 00:51:38,926 It's not only the meat, 700 00:51:38,928 --> 00:51:42,364 it's actually money going back to their pockets. 701 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,140 Break the door where people are sleeping? 702 00:55:13,142 --> 00:55:14,107 Yeah. 703 00:55:14,109 --> 00:55:15,841 These are recurring problems then. 704 00:55:15,843 --> 00:55:17,310 Can't carry on like this. 705 00:55:17,312 --> 00:55:19,515 Somebody's gonna get eaten. It's just a matter of time. 706 00:55:20,683 --> 00:55:22,748 Maybe it's better people cry by the dead lion. 707 00:55:22,750 --> 00:55:25,484 We don't cry by the dead person. 708 00:55:25,486 --> 00:55:27,155 Better that way. 709 00:55:35,830 --> 00:55:38,065 We go to extreme lengths 710 00:55:38,067 --> 00:55:40,132 to keep animals from being shot 711 00:55:40,134 --> 00:55:42,004 on the Problem Animal Control Program. 712 00:55:42,870 --> 00:55:45,138 Probably 95 percent of the time 713 00:55:45,140 --> 00:55:47,641 we can get the animals out of the communities 714 00:55:47,643 --> 00:55:50,009 and get them back into where they belong 715 00:55:50,011 --> 00:55:52,478 and try and keep the two separated. 716 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,681 'Cause they don't mix well. 717 00:55:54,683 --> 00:55:57,484 And people are killed every year 718 00:55:57,486 --> 00:56:00,890 by elephant, and hippo and crocodile, and lion. 719 00:56:02,424 --> 00:56:03,991 It's part of life. 720 00:56:03,993 --> 00:56:05,761 Part of life here, anyway, certainly. 721 00:56:08,397 --> 00:56:12,366 Lions come in and just absolutely destroy a guy's livelihood, 722 00:56:12,368 --> 00:56:15,801 and he doesn't have a way to sustain his future. 723 00:56:15,803 --> 00:56:17,904 Maybe he ends up in the bush, 724 00:56:17,906 --> 00:56:19,976 putting up wire snares and poaching. 725 00:56:21,343 --> 00:56:25,545 At the end of the day we're fighting a poaching war. 726 00:56:25,547 --> 00:56:27,480 We are trained to recruit people. 727 00:56:27,482 --> 00:56:29,650 We do the anti-poaching campaigns. 728 00:56:29,652 --> 00:56:31,717 Trained to... 729 00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,920 to teach people and explain to them 730 00:56:33,922 --> 00:56:35,190 the importance of animals. 731 00:56:36,825 --> 00:56:40,226 The problem is, the people, they're suffering. 732 00:56:40,228 --> 00:56:43,696 So they're forced now to get into the bush 733 00:56:43,698 --> 00:56:46,101 to make a living. 734 00:57:00,415 --> 00:57:01,984 Stay, stay. 735 00:57:03,118 --> 00:57:05,018 Stay. Be a good boy. 736 00:57:05,020 --> 00:57:06,989 Be a good boy. Stay, honey, stay. 737 00:57:14,328 --> 00:57:16,062 Yeah, David, you don't. 738 00:57:16,064 --> 00:57:18,367 Let me tell you, you definitely don't. 739 00:57:22,203 --> 00:57:25,341 That one over there was only 14 months old. 740 00:57:26,408 --> 00:57:27,973 I think two of them were pregnant. 741 00:57:27,975 --> 00:57:32,078 And then another cow with a young calf was also wounded. 742 00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,983 She still has a bullet in her brisket. 743 00:57:36,819 --> 00:57:39,355 Whether that will prove fatal or not, we don't know. 744 00:57:47,228 --> 00:57:48,431 Fucking sick. 745 00:57:55,337 --> 00:58:00,143 They can give you 10, 12, even 13 calves in their life. 746 00:58:01,843 --> 00:58:04,079 That is all wiped out 747 00:58:05,781 --> 00:58:07,250 in one moment. 748 00:58:16,024 --> 00:58:19,292 The bodies were actually mutilated. 749 00:58:19,294 --> 00:58:22,929 Means that there's definitely some locals involved. 750 00:58:22,931 --> 00:58:25,768 I'm suspicious about the camp master. 751 00:58:26,734 --> 00:58:28,534 Because the rhinos, they know him, 752 00:58:28,536 --> 00:58:32,105 and he knows how to go and stand in the middle of them 753 00:58:32,107 --> 00:58:33,873 quietly... 754 00:58:33,875 --> 00:58:35,875 and then maybe, you know, two guys, 755 00:58:35,877 --> 00:58:38,344 one banging that side and one banging this side. 756 00:58:38,346 --> 00:58:41,116 That's how I pictured it in my nightmare. 757 00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:05,938 So where does that leave me? 758 00:59:05,940 --> 00:59:07,908 Yeah, but... What I was saying is that 759 00:59:07,910 --> 00:59:10,846 we're going to have a harder thing convincing 760 00:59:11,379 --> 00:59:12,578 the pro trades-- 761 00:59:12,580 --> 00:59:14,380 You mean the anti-trades? 762 00:59:14,382 --> 00:59:15,281 Yeah, the anti-- 763 00:59:15,283 --> 00:59:17,250 Convincing the anti-trades, you mean? 764 00:59:17,252 --> 00:59:18,284 Yes. 765 00:59:18,286 --> 00:59:19,752 Charles, I know that. 766 00:59:19,754 --> 00:59:22,888 I know that better than any of you. I'm there. 767 00:59:22,890 --> 00:59:26,158 I'm in the fight all day and every day. 768 00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:26,926 So I know that. 769 00:59:26,928 --> 00:59:29,629 I'm not pro and I'm not anti. 770 00:59:29,631 --> 00:59:35,268 Both of those approaches have merit in places 771 00:59:35,270 --> 00:59:37,536 and not merit, because the motives 772 00:59:37,538 --> 00:59:39,806 behind the commercial acts 773 00:59:39,808 --> 00:59:43,409 are very seldom conservation-based. 774 00:59:43,411 --> 00:59:44,478 They are profit-based, 775 00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,813 and they sell it to the public on the basis of-- 776 00:59:47,815 --> 00:59:50,152 - It pays, it stays. - It pays, it stays. Yeah. 777 00:59:51,486 --> 00:59:54,855 I'm not an emissary for your cause. Not at all. 778 00:59:54,857 --> 00:59:58,190 Just be for the rhinos, not for my cause. 779 00:59:58,192 --> 01:00:00,659 It's all I fucking want. Be for the rhinos. 780 01:00:00,661 --> 01:00:02,795 Try and keep them alive. 781 01:00:02,797 --> 01:00:04,464 It's all I'm fucking asking everybody. 782 01:00:04,466 --> 01:00:06,533 You and I can sit and have a discussion. 783 01:00:06,535 --> 01:00:08,701 Let me tell you something. Anthony Bones said, 784 01:00:08,703 --> 01:00:10,737 if you are anti-trade, 785 01:00:10,739 --> 01:00:12,504 the you are anti-legal trade. 786 01:00:12,506 --> 01:00:15,341 Then there's two things I want you to think about. 787 01:00:15,343 --> 01:00:19,011 Firstly, you are keeping the money away from me, 788 01:00:19,013 --> 01:00:21,848 which I need to protect my rhino. 789 01:00:21,850 --> 01:00:24,984 Secondly, if you are anti-legal trade, 790 01:00:24,986 --> 01:00:27,053 by implication to me, 791 01:00:27,055 --> 01:00:29,723 you are pro illegal trade. 792 01:00:29,725 --> 01:00:31,194 And those are the poachers. 793 01:00:36,098 --> 01:00:37,730 The fact of the matter is that-- 794 01:00:37,732 --> 01:00:39,098 Fact of the matter is, 795 01:00:39,100 --> 01:00:42,067 in ten years' time, if there's not legalization, 796 01:00:42,069 --> 01:00:44,203 you won't see one fucking rhino here. 797 01:00:44,205 --> 01:00:46,339 They'll all be dead or gone. 798 01:00:46,341 --> 01:00:48,440 That's the fact of the matter. 799 01:02:10,325 --> 01:02:14,493 The husband had been going into the bush and shooting elephants. 800 01:02:14,495 --> 01:02:17,132 That network over the years, probably... 801 01:02:18,567 --> 01:02:19,799 over the last ten years 802 01:02:19,801 --> 01:02:21,900 would have accounted for a couple of thousand elephant, 803 01:02:21,902 --> 01:02:23,105 at least. 804 01:02:24,306 --> 01:02:26,906 So, yeah. They're bad guys. 805 01:02:26,908 --> 01:02:28,143 Done a lot of bad things. 806 01:02:28,910 --> 01:02:30,342 Tell this fucking lady now 807 01:02:30,344 --> 01:02:32,212 we are not tired of this mien. 808 01:02:32,214 --> 01:02:34,013 We are going to leave her with... 809 01:03:40,549 --> 01:03:43,016 You've known your father a long time. 810 01:03:43,018 --> 01:03:45,518 The future in the bush ain't no future. 811 01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:47,319 There's no future. 812 01:03:47,321 --> 01:03:50,658 Otherwise you can die, leaving your family behind. 813 01:03:51,692 --> 01:03:53,225 Or to be jailed. 814 01:03:53,227 --> 01:03:55,428 And you are a young guy 815 01:03:55,430 --> 01:03:59,165 with plenty of future to your side. 816 01:03:59,167 --> 01:04:02,701 I know if we stay like this, we will end up... 817 01:04:07,007 --> 01:04:08,377 That's not going forward. 818 01:04:13,381 --> 01:04:15,614 We're fighting this war for the community. 819 01:04:15,616 --> 01:04:16,583 This community. 820 01:04:16,585 --> 01:04:18,250 And another community further away 821 01:04:18,252 --> 01:04:19,752 want these elephants, too. 822 01:04:19,754 --> 01:04:20,853 They're worth a lot of money, 823 01:04:20,855 --> 01:04:23,592 and they will go to all lengths to get what they want. 824 01:04:24,658 --> 01:04:25,827 So, yeah. 825 01:04:27,027 --> 01:04:28,594 You need to look in the mirror every morning. 826 01:04:28,596 --> 01:04:29,562 I make a point of it. 827 01:04:29,564 --> 01:04:31,029 Every single morning I look in the mirror, 828 01:04:31,031 --> 01:04:32,332 because we've got to make sure that 829 01:04:32,334 --> 01:04:34,569 we don't cross the bounds, 830 01:04:35,603 --> 01:04:37,636 uh, that... 831 01:04:37,638 --> 01:04:41,007 We can't lose our humanity for humanity. 832 01:04:41,009 --> 01:04:42,841 I think that's really important. 833 01:04:42,843 --> 01:04:47,080 It gets harsh, and you do things sometimes that... 834 01:04:47,082 --> 01:04:49,752 when you saw it, it will scare people. 835 01:04:51,051 --> 01:04:54,319 But we've... 836 01:04:54,321 --> 01:04:58,757 We have to do what... We have to keep this fight going. 837 01:04:58,759 --> 01:05:01,564 It's a war to save elephant from extinction. 838 01:05:11,439 --> 01:05:14,073 How many rhinos are poached 839 01:05:14,075 --> 01:05:15,908 in less than a year? 840 01:05:15,910 --> 01:05:16,845 Twenty. 841 01:05:21,582 --> 01:05:25,884 When I fired the previous security company, 842 01:05:25,886 --> 01:05:28,587 I really had a suspicion 843 01:05:28,589 --> 01:05:32,193 that some of them were involved in the rhino poaching. 844 01:05:33,294 --> 01:05:36,196 One of the people in that team I really liked 845 01:05:36,198 --> 01:05:38,665 was the second in command, 846 01:05:38,667 --> 01:05:41,900 a chap by the name of Thomas Chowke. 847 01:05:41,902 --> 01:05:45,638 That is our friend Thomas at the time that he was here. 848 01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:49,676 I've got a very reliable report from the police 849 01:05:49,678 --> 01:05:52,714 that Thomas was in on the poaching. 850 01:05:55,250 --> 01:05:58,217 That is, emotionally, 851 01:05:58,219 --> 01:06:02,288 the worst part of this was you're friends now. 852 01:06:02,290 --> 01:06:04,290 You're the friends of your rhino. 853 01:06:04,292 --> 01:06:06,261 You feel you can't trust anybody. 854 01:06:08,029 --> 01:06:10,429 I won't be able to guarantee 855 01:06:10,431 --> 01:06:12,065 the zero losses on this property. 856 01:06:12,067 --> 01:06:15,868 But I can say to you that most of those incidents which are mapped there 857 01:06:15,870 --> 01:06:17,469 are as a direct result 858 01:06:17,471 --> 01:06:20,540 of having the wrong people on site, 859 01:06:20,542 --> 01:06:23,275 with not the right equipment, not the right training, 860 01:06:23,277 --> 01:06:24,844 not being highly motivated. 861 01:06:24,846 --> 01:06:28,480 So we will now change the policy completely 862 01:06:28,482 --> 01:06:31,187 to an elite reaction unit. 863 01:06:34,823 --> 01:06:37,757 I don't necessarily want them in a body bag. 864 01:06:37,759 --> 01:06:40,292 I would like to upset them 865 01:06:40,294 --> 01:06:42,295 for them to say, "No, no, no. 866 01:06:42,297 --> 01:06:44,266 We don't wanna go to that place." 867 01:06:45,734 --> 01:06:48,971 We have a case of shots being fired... 868 01:06:54,843 --> 01:06:58,176 While a lot of the politicians are praying for peace, 869 01:06:58,178 --> 01:07:00,245 we are praying for war. 870 01:07:00,247 --> 01:07:03,116 More conflict is probably needed in this arena 871 01:07:03,118 --> 01:07:04,386 to sort out the problem. 872 01:07:08,489 --> 01:07:10,522 Quite frankly, I feel poor, 873 01:07:10,524 --> 01:07:13,192 because they're all very expensive. 874 01:07:13,194 --> 01:07:14,726 Radar seems to be somewhere 875 01:07:14,728 --> 01:07:16,899 between ten and 20 million grand. 876 01:07:18,632 --> 01:07:22,134 This chopper here is costing me nearly a million a month. 877 01:07:22,136 --> 01:07:24,036 Then there's the underground men, 878 01:07:24,038 --> 01:07:26,105 and the bloody information men, 879 01:07:26,107 --> 01:07:28,244 and, and, and... 880 01:07:31,346 --> 01:07:32,879 Eric, would that have come through 881 01:07:32,881 --> 01:07:35,584 so long if you tapped it on the top of the face. 882 01:07:40,754 --> 01:07:42,621 I mean, why did they come in here? 883 01:07:42,623 --> 01:07:45,190 They walked from that bottom road there, 884 01:07:45,192 --> 01:07:47,326 all the way up here, into this camp, 885 01:07:47,328 --> 01:07:48,560 to come and poach these. 886 01:07:48,562 --> 01:07:50,029 Why? 887 01:07:50,031 --> 01:07:52,433 Just 'cause they're fucking with my head, or why? 888 01:08:01,076 --> 01:08:02,578 You feel very helpless, you know. 889 01:08:10,285 --> 01:08:11,654 Good morning, darlings. 890 01:08:13,288 --> 01:08:14,523 Let me scratch you. 891 01:08:15,957 --> 01:08:18,294 This one is four-months-old. 892 01:08:27,602 --> 01:08:30,002 I don't think anybody ever thought 893 01:08:30,004 --> 01:08:31,904 any private person 894 01:08:31,906 --> 01:08:35,775 would have 1300 rhinos. 895 01:08:35,777 --> 01:08:38,846 And next year we're gonna have 200 more maybe. 896 01:08:40,614 --> 01:08:44,486 But I suppose it's an addiction, probably. 897 01:08:46,854 --> 01:08:48,956 And where do you think it's gonna stop? 898 01:08:50,425 --> 01:08:52,828 When he kicks the bucket, I guess. 899 01:08:54,395 --> 01:08:58,567 Then hopefully one of his sons will carry on. 900 01:08:59,567 --> 01:09:03,404 He won't stop before he's six foot under. 901 01:09:11,946 --> 01:09:14,480 My dream is to carry on what my dad's doing. 902 01:09:14,482 --> 01:09:16,585 It's to carry on with the rhino breeding. 903 01:09:17,719 --> 01:09:21,052 Unfortunately, the irony, 904 01:09:21,054 --> 01:09:25,191 I wouldn't breed rhino, because it's too expensive, 905 01:09:25,193 --> 01:09:27,058 and it's very high risk. 906 01:09:27,060 --> 01:09:30,128 I mean, we've had death threats here at the house. 907 01:09:30,130 --> 01:09:33,999 If I see what he's gone through in sort of the last 15 years, 908 01:09:34,001 --> 01:09:37,302 his financial position has got gradually worse and worse 909 01:09:37,304 --> 01:09:40,942 the more rhino he's acquiring. 910 01:09:42,609 --> 01:09:47,014 I have invested $50 million in this project 911 01:09:47,948 --> 01:09:49,449 with virtually no return. 912 01:09:57,492 --> 01:10:00,226 This project will come to an end 913 01:10:00,228 --> 01:10:02,727 unless it is making money. 914 01:10:02,729 --> 01:10:04,931 I can go on selling my assets, 915 01:10:04,933 --> 01:10:07,636 but it is not sustainable in the long run. 916 01:10:09,403 --> 01:10:11,937 I used to have six resorts. 917 01:10:11,939 --> 01:10:15,576 I used to have over 3,000 beds. 918 01:10:18,679 --> 01:10:21,246 All the resorts have been, 919 01:10:21,248 --> 01:10:25,418 and this is the last one that will be sold on auction. 920 01:10:43,004 --> 01:10:44,603 The first time. 921 01:10:44,605 --> 01:10:47,843 For the second time, 24 million. 922 01:10:49,443 --> 01:10:51,110 Thank you, ma'am. It's yours. 923 01:10:57,652 --> 01:11:00,619 After taking various advice, 924 01:11:00,621 --> 01:11:03,789 I believe that I don't have any option 925 01:11:03,791 --> 01:11:06,092 but to take the government to court 926 01:11:06,094 --> 01:11:07,629 to lift the moratorium. 927 01:11:09,663 --> 01:11:12,798 If I don't, I will run out of money, 928 01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:16,104 and my rhinos will be killed by poachers. 929 01:11:25,779 --> 01:11:26,681 Go. 930 01:11:29,416 --> 01:11:31,150 Sure. 931 01:11:31,152 --> 01:11:34,020 We believe that the poachers would have shot 932 01:11:34,022 --> 01:11:35,353 an elephant today, 933 01:11:35,355 --> 01:11:38,490 and we hope to meet them on the road, 934 01:11:38,492 --> 01:11:42,294 and explain to them that 935 01:11:42,296 --> 01:11:44,463 this no longer happens in this area. 936 01:11:53,308 --> 01:11:56,575 There was a sting operation in the district south of us, 937 01:11:56,577 --> 01:11:58,811 where a lot of the armed poachers come from. 938 01:11:58,813 --> 01:12:00,478 And what had transpired was, 939 01:12:00,480 --> 01:12:02,949 a guy whipped out a knife, 940 01:12:02,951 --> 01:12:05,116 tried to stab the police officer. 941 01:12:05,118 --> 01:12:06,121 He was shot. 942 01:12:07,255 --> 01:12:09,291 Uh, he died 943 01:12:10,123 --> 01:12:11,225 shortly after that. 944 01:12:12,693 --> 01:12:16,195 Uh, yeah, I don't know. 945 01:12:16,197 --> 01:12:18,396 It was a bit strange, 'cause the next day, 946 01:12:18,398 --> 01:12:21,100 I had to go and shoot an elephant 947 01:12:21,102 --> 01:12:22,871 on behalf of the council. 948 01:12:24,639 --> 01:12:27,673 But walking up to that elephant, 949 01:12:27,675 --> 01:12:32,677 which is an incredibly dangerous thing to do, 950 01:12:32,679 --> 01:12:35,780 and you have this huge adrenalin rush 951 01:12:35,782 --> 01:12:37,149 as you're walking up to it. 952 01:12:37,151 --> 01:12:40,552 It's... Your heart's going, your head's going... 953 01:12:40,554 --> 01:12:43,955 You need to cleanly shoot this animal. 954 01:12:43,957 --> 01:12:46,228 And as it falls and it's... 955 01:12:47,327 --> 01:12:49,628 falls to the floor after your shot, 956 01:12:49,630 --> 01:12:52,198 there's just this huge drop of emotion, 957 01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:53,167 for me, anyway. 958 01:12:54,068 --> 01:12:55,103 And... 959 01:12:56,403 --> 01:12:58,870 it's... 960 01:12:58,872 --> 01:12:59,774 to me... 961 01:13:02,042 --> 01:13:03,709 really sad. 962 01:13:03,711 --> 01:13:07,480 It turns from this beautiful animal 963 01:13:07,482 --> 01:13:12,254 into this floppy mess of gray skin. 964 01:13:14,054 --> 01:13:17,289 To me, shooting elephant is hard. 965 01:13:17,291 --> 01:13:20,493 I understand it's gotta be done, and I have to do it sometimes. 966 01:13:20,495 --> 01:13:23,165 But it's a tough call. 967 01:13:25,233 --> 01:13:27,866 Yeah, it's an emotional thing, killing an animal. 968 01:13:27,868 --> 01:13:29,604 I think maybe that's part of the hunting. 969 01:13:30,004 --> 01:13:33,172 Where people 970 01:13:33,174 --> 01:13:37,045 have this huge buildup, and then this emotional switch. 971 01:13:37,845 --> 01:13:40,846 I get that. 972 01:13:40,848 --> 01:13:43,214 So I understand maybe if others get it, 973 01:13:43,216 --> 01:13:46,418 and maybe it becomes a passionate addiction. 974 01:13:46,420 --> 01:13:47,655 I don't know. 975 01:13:51,559 --> 01:13:53,191 ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 976 01:13:53,193 --> 01:13:57,362 ♪ Happy birthday Dear Philip ♪ 977 01:13:57,364 --> 01:14:00,633 ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 978 01:14:00,635 --> 01:14:02,634 ♪ And many more ♪ 979 01:14:02,636 --> 01:14:04,270 Cheers. 980 01:14:09,042 --> 01:14:09,911 You mind? 981 01:14:12,179 --> 01:14:13,678 Who's all wild? 982 01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:15,580 You spilled it. 983 01:14:15,582 --> 01:14:17,285 What are you, some kind of wild animal? 984 01:14:18,452 --> 01:14:20,388 Mom, Dad, y'all watch. 985 01:14:21,322 --> 01:14:22,954 Philip's opening his gift. 986 01:14:22,956 --> 01:14:24,723 Oh, I remember what these are. 987 01:14:26,794 --> 01:14:30,698 "Birthday cheers on your quest for the Big Five." 988 01:14:31,299 --> 01:14:32,698 Something Merlot. 989 01:14:32,700 --> 01:14:33,966 Something. 990 01:14:33,968 --> 01:14:35,901 In some kind of chocolate. Is that what that is? 991 01:14:35,903 --> 01:14:38,103 - Happy birthday. - Thank you. 992 01:14:45,545 --> 01:14:50,082 Unfortunately, this is my birthday present, I guess. 993 01:14:50,084 --> 01:14:52,884 They've listed the lions as threatened, 994 01:14:52,886 --> 01:14:54,486 and all lions as threatened, 995 01:14:54,488 --> 01:14:56,789 and another species as endangered. 996 01:14:56,791 --> 01:15:00,191 So effectively, lion hunting is over. 997 01:15:00,193 --> 01:15:02,830 Now, when this all goes into effect, I don't know. 998 01:15:03,965 --> 01:15:05,731 We're just a few months out, 999 01:15:05,733 --> 01:15:08,033 so maybe we're okay, maybe we're not. 1000 01:15:08,035 --> 01:15:09,768 Maybe we have to go to a different country, 1001 01:15:09,770 --> 01:15:11,773 maybe the whole trip's ruined, I don't know. 1002 01:15:12,706 --> 01:15:14,673 So I think the thing that makes me the maddest 1003 01:15:14,675 --> 01:15:17,442 is this service director Dana Ash, 1004 01:15:17,444 --> 01:15:19,811 says that, and I quote, 1005 01:15:19,813 --> 01:15:21,413 "that it's a privilege, not a right, 1006 01:15:21,415 --> 01:15:24,486 for us to bring back these trophies from other countries." 1007 01:15:25,620 --> 01:15:28,119 I don't think he was elected by anybody. 1008 01:15:28,121 --> 01:15:29,821 I think he's an appointed bureaucrat, 1009 01:15:29,823 --> 01:15:31,423 and he has no right to tell me 1010 01:15:31,425 --> 01:15:32,991 what my rights are, 1011 01:15:32,993 --> 01:15:36,695 and what the privilege of being a US citizen is. 1012 01:15:36,697 --> 01:15:39,832 I'm gonna be the first hunter in there for the hunting season. 1013 01:15:39,834 --> 01:15:41,232 And we planned it that way. 1014 01:15:41,234 --> 01:15:43,904 So I'm going as early as I can in this coming year. 1015 01:15:44,404 --> 01:15:45,741 But, um... 1016 01:15:46,573 --> 01:15:48,276 that might not be early enough. 1017 01:16:30,050 --> 01:16:31,984 That's the bottom line. 1018 01:16:39,660 --> 01:16:43,795 There are about 150 farms in South Africa 1019 01:16:43,797 --> 01:16:47,732 that have permits to keep and breed lions. 1020 01:16:47,734 --> 01:16:50,969 About 70 percent of all hunters 1021 01:16:50,971 --> 01:16:53,809 are coming from the US and Canada. 1022 01:16:55,343 --> 01:16:58,811 And right now the importation of lion trophies 1023 01:16:58,813 --> 01:17:00,311 will be much more difficult. 1024 01:17:00,313 --> 01:17:03,184 And that will give my industry a severe blow. 1025 01:17:04,452 --> 01:17:06,321 If we can't get hunters 1026 01:17:07,354 --> 01:17:09,120 to hunt our lions, 1027 01:17:09,122 --> 01:17:14,196 we slaughter the lions and sell their bones. 1028 01:17:18,465 --> 01:17:21,366 What other alternative is there 1029 01:17:21,368 --> 01:17:23,102 if you cannot look after your animals, 1030 01:17:23,104 --> 01:17:25,204 and there's no value to your animals? 1031 01:17:25,206 --> 01:17:26,938 How will you look after them? 1032 01:17:26,940 --> 01:17:29,842 Where will you find the money to feed them? 1033 01:17:29,844 --> 01:17:31,810 If you take away the value of it, 1034 01:17:31,812 --> 01:17:33,148 I have to get rid of it. 1035 01:17:33,980 --> 01:17:35,948 There is no other option for me. 1036 01:17:35,950 --> 01:17:37,048 Walk away from my place, 1037 01:17:37,050 --> 01:17:39,517 let people shoot them, euthanize them. 1038 01:17:39,519 --> 01:17:40,985 What else? 1039 01:17:40,987 --> 01:17:42,820 What can you expect me to do? 1040 01:17:42,822 --> 01:17:46,025 I can't just let them open the camps 1041 01:17:46,027 --> 01:17:49,096 and let them run out free and kill people. 1042 01:17:57,505 --> 01:17:59,070 Just once in a while, 1043 01:17:59,072 --> 01:18:01,339 an individual animal 1044 01:18:01,341 --> 01:18:04,075 can capture the public imagination 1045 01:18:04,077 --> 01:18:06,344 and change public attitudes. 1046 01:18:06,346 --> 01:18:07,713 Worldwide outrage 1047 01:18:07,715 --> 01:18:09,315 over the death of Cecil the lion, 1048 01:18:09,317 --> 01:18:12,017 killed at the hands of an American dentist. 1049 01:18:12,019 --> 01:18:14,152 Cecil's death created 1050 01:18:14,154 --> 01:18:16,922 a sort of public ground swell of opinion 1051 01:18:16,924 --> 01:18:19,124 that's been translated into real action. 1052 01:18:19,126 --> 01:18:20,993 You know, I eat hamburgers. 1053 01:18:20,995 --> 01:18:22,794 But that was not a hunt, that was a murder. 1054 01:18:22,796 --> 01:18:25,463 And this guy must have quite a collection of animal heads, 1055 01:18:25,465 --> 01:18:28,366 because here he is posing next to a bear he shot. 1056 01:18:28,368 --> 01:18:30,401 He killed like half of Noah's Ark. 1057 01:18:31,371 --> 01:18:33,472 Killing a lion for sport? 1058 01:18:33,474 --> 01:18:36,008 Not in the era of Instagram and Facebook. 1059 01:18:36,010 --> 01:18:39,344 Not to a generation brought up to relate to Simba. 1060 01:18:39,346 --> 01:18:41,679 We'll always be together, right? 1061 01:18:41,681 --> 01:18:43,682 No, we won't. 1062 01:18:43,684 --> 01:18:46,654 I'll be murdered by a dentist from Minnesota. 1063 01:18:47,587 --> 01:18:49,288 See that constellation? 1064 01:18:49,290 --> 01:18:51,789 The one that looks like a white guy in his 50s 1065 01:18:51,791 --> 01:18:53,225 with a fake smile? 1066 01:18:53,227 --> 01:18:54,660 Walter fucking Palmer. 1067 01:18:54,662 --> 01:18:57,929 You hunted Cecil the lion like a fucking cowardly bitch. 1068 01:18:57,931 --> 01:19:01,266 Dentist Palmer, welcome to the court of public opinion. 1069 01:19:01,268 --> 01:19:02,901 I'm really happy that social media 1070 01:19:02,903 --> 01:19:04,570 is getting this story out there. 1071 01:19:04,572 --> 01:19:06,371 You gotta stop talking about it, I'm gonna get really angry. 1072 01:19:06,373 --> 01:19:08,941 What would happen if you were being hunted, motherfucker? 1073 01:19:08,943 --> 01:19:12,311 We'll never forgive what you did. 1074 01:19:12,313 --> 01:19:13,978 In the wake of public outrage 1075 01:19:13,980 --> 01:19:16,115 over the killing of Cecil the lion, 1076 01:19:16,117 --> 01:19:19,317 the three largest US airlines are instituting bans 1077 01:19:19,319 --> 01:19:22,855 on carrying trophies as freight. 1078 01:19:22,857 --> 01:19:25,124 Somebody is paying for this thing to function. 1079 01:19:25,126 --> 01:19:27,759 Someone provides the clothing, 1080 01:19:27,761 --> 01:19:30,094 the scopes, the outdoor gear. 1081 01:19:30,096 --> 01:19:34,466 And it makes the big corporate players in this 1082 01:19:34,468 --> 01:19:36,334 think very carefully 1083 01:19:36,336 --> 01:19:39,103 about how closely they wish to be associated 1084 01:19:39,105 --> 01:19:41,173 with certain practices. 1085 01:19:41,175 --> 01:19:43,307 And I think that that will change, 1086 01:19:43,309 --> 01:19:45,276 and it will change fast. 1087 01:19:45,278 --> 01:19:47,413 And people will say, "Mm-mmm. 1088 01:19:47,415 --> 01:19:48,981 I don't wanna be a part of this." 1089 01:19:48,983 --> 01:19:50,783 Save our lions! 1090 01:19:50,785 --> 01:19:52,116 Ban game hunting! 1091 01:19:52,118 --> 01:19:53,819 Save our lions! 1092 01:19:53,821 --> 01:19:55,186 Ban game hunting! 1093 01:19:55,188 --> 01:19:57,021 Save our lions! 1094 01:19:57,023 --> 01:19:58,524 Ban game hunting! 1095 01:19:58,526 --> 01:20:00,359 Save our lions! 1096 01:20:00,361 --> 01:20:02,293 We will shame these people. 1097 01:20:02,295 --> 01:20:04,396 We will ostracize these people. 1098 01:20:04,398 --> 01:20:06,432 We will put such pressure on our governments 1099 01:20:06,434 --> 01:20:07,900 so that they've got nowhere to go. 1100 01:20:07,902 --> 01:20:09,535 And it isn't just lions. 1101 01:20:09,537 --> 01:20:13,838 A certain gentleman that breeds 1200 white rhinos in South Africa 1102 01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,475 spends 5.2 million grand a year 1103 01:20:16,477 --> 01:20:18,076 feeding them and looking after them, 1104 01:20:18,078 --> 01:20:20,344 says he can no longer afford to pay for all of that. 1105 01:20:20,346 --> 01:20:22,280 He'll have to cull those animals, 1106 01:20:22,282 --> 01:20:24,348 unless he can sell the rhino horns. 1107 01:20:24,350 --> 01:20:26,884 And we've got to say enough is enough. 1108 01:20:26,886 --> 01:20:28,486 We won't allow that to happen. 1109 01:20:28,488 --> 01:20:31,326 We won't allow South Africa to abuse its position... 1110 01:20:34,662 --> 01:20:38,329 Welcome. I'm here tonight to moderate a debate 1111 01:20:38,331 --> 01:20:42,633 between two very prominent conservationists. 1112 01:20:42,635 --> 01:20:46,204 Will Travers of the Born Free Foundation, 1113 01:20:46,206 --> 01:20:49,641 and Mr. John Hume. 1114 01:20:49,643 --> 01:20:52,610 I'm very keen to hear what he's gonna say. 1115 01:20:52,612 --> 01:20:55,313 He's far more experienced than I am 1116 01:20:55,315 --> 01:20:57,082 in wooing the public. 1117 01:20:57,084 --> 01:20:59,584 Don't forget that that's what he does. 1118 01:20:59,586 --> 01:21:00,518 He woos the public, 1119 01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:02,620 and that's how they collect money, 1120 01:21:02,622 --> 01:21:04,125 and that's why he's so good at it. 1121 01:21:09,330 --> 01:21:11,129 Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. 1122 01:21:11,131 --> 01:21:13,765 I'm a retired property developer, 1123 01:21:13,767 --> 01:21:18,773 and now custodian of 1,403 rhinos. 1124 01:21:20,006 --> 01:21:22,173 If I can sell the horns, 1125 01:21:22,175 --> 01:21:25,477 my 1400 will become 2,000, 3,000 1126 01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:26,614 and 10,000. 1127 01:21:27,380 --> 01:21:30,718 I cannot see what is wrong with that, 1128 01:21:31,385 --> 01:21:34,352 when my rhinos are happy alive. 1129 01:21:34,354 --> 01:21:37,224 Come and see them where they are. 1130 01:21:37,757 --> 01:21:40,057 I have the recipe, 1131 01:21:40,059 --> 01:21:42,828 but it takes a lot of money. 1132 01:21:42,830 --> 01:21:45,062 I have a way to raise the money 1133 01:21:45,064 --> 01:21:48,033 without going begging all over the world. 1134 01:21:48,035 --> 01:21:51,069 All I need is for it to be legal. 1135 01:21:51,071 --> 01:21:53,038 I don't think there's any legitimate case 1136 01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:55,507 for you having these animals in large numbers 1137 01:21:55,509 --> 01:21:57,375 in private areas of owned land, 1138 01:21:57,377 --> 01:21:59,744 where you can harvest them, where you can profit from them, 1139 01:21:59,746 --> 01:22:02,246 where you can put them into the international market, 1140 01:22:02,248 --> 01:22:04,048 where it can lead to more destruction. 1141 01:22:05,986 --> 01:22:10,155 Excuse me, sir. I don't think you understand Africa. 1142 01:22:10,157 --> 01:22:12,524 You simply don't understand Africa. 1143 01:22:12,526 --> 01:22:16,994 How many consumers could you supply from your rhinos? 1144 01:22:16,996 --> 01:22:19,198 I trim my horns every two years. 1145 01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:22,133 So I can produce with my current rhinos, 1146 01:22:22,135 --> 01:22:23,668 one ton of horn a year. 1147 01:22:23,670 --> 01:22:26,204 Rhino. What about the rest of the population? 1148 01:22:26,206 --> 01:22:27,539 They must do the same. 1149 01:22:27,541 --> 01:22:30,275 That's why I wanna give them to the communities. 1150 01:22:30,277 --> 01:22:31,776 I wanna teach the community. 1151 01:22:31,778 --> 01:22:33,779 There's Sumatran rhino, Indian rhino. 1152 01:22:33,781 --> 01:22:36,615 Once you flood... "flood" your market... 1153 01:22:36,617 --> 01:22:38,717 So you want me to give up and let my rhino all die? 1154 01:22:38,719 --> 01:22:40,319 It's all about your rhino. 1155 01:22:40,321 --> 01:22:42,053 What about the global rhino? 1156 01:22:42,055 --> 01:22:45,022 Let the global rhino do the same thing. 1157 01:22:45,024 --> 01:22:46,825 You have to speak for all rhino, 1158 01:22:46,827 --> 01:22:47,926 not just yours. 1159 01:22:50,563 --> 01:22:53,030 The "if it pays, it stays" principle, 1160 01:22:53,032 --> 01:22:55,366 the commodification of wildlife. 1161 01:22:55,368 --> 01:22:57,569 Elephants will stay if we can sell their ivory. 1162 01:22:57,571 --> 01:23:01,373 Lions will stay if the wealthy elite can shoot them for fun. 1163 01:23:01,375 --> 01:23:04,176 And rhino will stay, albeit on ranches 1164 01:23:04,178 --> 01:23:05,744 very similar to Mr. Humes', 1165 01:23:05,746 --> 01:23:10,382 if their horns can be sold to remote, distant, deluded buyers. 1166 01:23:10,384 --> 01:23:12,651 What a vision of nature that will be. 1167 01:23:12,653 --> 01:23:14,485 Contained, confined, 1168 01:23:14,487 --> 01:23:17,191 commercialized and counterfeit. 1169 01:24:02,670 --> 01:24:04,636 South Africa is yet to decide 1170 01:24:04,638 --> 01:24:06,504 on a push to end a global ban 1171 01:24:06,506 --> 01:24:08,740 on buying and selling rhino horn. 1172 01:24:08,742 --> 01:24:11,109 The move could open up a $2 billion market, 1173 01:24:11,111 --> 01:24:12,610 and also determine the fate 1174 01:24:12,612 --> 01:24:14,448 of the critically endangered species. 1175 01:27:24,136 --> 01:27:25,706 Oh, my gosh. 1176 01:27:29,977 --> 01:27:31,008 I got this one. 1177 01:27:31,010 --> 01:27:32,009 You got this one? 1178 01:27:32,011 --> 01:27:33,445 I'm coming back. 1179 01:27:43,823 --> 01:27:45,524 They like to talk about the numbers, 1180 01:27:45,526 --> 01:27:47,292 they like to talk about conservation. 1181 01:27:47,294 --> 01:27:49,261 They're just greenwashing, basically, 1182 01:27:49,263 --> 01:27:51,161 the fact that they enjoy killing. 1183 01:27:51,163 --> 01:27:54,533 And that's basically psychopathic behavior. 1184 01:27:54,535 --> 01:27:56,668 We're seeing a lot of progress for animals. 1185 01:27:56,670 --> 01:27:59,236 The change is coming. 1186 01:27:59,238 --> 01:28:00,207 We're gonna put an end to this. 1187 01:28:07,281 --> 01:28:08,812 I'm actually a conservation hunter. 1188 01:28:08,814 --> 01:28:10,682 We're very conscientious about what we do hunt, 1189 01:28:10,684 --> 01:28:12,316 and we don't hunt any endangered species. 1190 01:28:12,318 --> 01:28:13,852 I'm against all hunting. 1191 01:28:13,854 --> 01:28:15,486 Just all hunting, no matter what? 1192 01:28:15,488 --> 01:28:16,420 No matter what. 1193 01:28:16,422 --> 01:28:18,155 No matter the results or... 1194 01:28:18,157 --> 01:28:19,356 All hunting. 1195 01:28:19,358 --> 01:28:21,359 From the conservationist point of view, 1196 01:28:21,361 --> 01:28:22,927 the money that comes in from hunting 1197 01:28:22,929 --> 01:28:25,864 in those areas where those conservancies are, 1198 01:28:25,866 --> 01:28:27,598 is actually what's keeping them there. 1199 01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:29,633 You honestly think your money goes anywhere 1200 01:28:29,635 --> 01:28:30,968 except into someone's back pocket? 1201 01:28:30,970 --> 01:28:33,637 - Were going... - You are breeding corruption. 1202 01:28:33,639 --> 01:28:36,173 Were going to go to the school that we paid for. 1203 01:28:36,175 --> 01:28:37,308 Were going to go to-- 1204 01:28:37,310 --> 01:28:38,410 So go build a school. 1205 01:28:38,412 --> 01:28:39,777 If you wanna build a school, 1206 01:28:39,779 --> 01:28:40,978 I'll shake your hand, I'll come build it with you. 1207 01:28:40,980 --> 01:28:42,446 - No problem. - I'm just saying-- 1208 01:28:42,448 --> 01:28:43,914 Why do you have to shoot an animal to go build a school? 1209 01:28:43,916 --> 01:28:45,450 I'm just saying that's part of our industry. 1210 01:28:45,452 --> 01:28:46,951 - That's not the same. - It's an option. 1211 01:28:46,953 --> 01:28:48,986 Murder is murder. 1212 01:28:48,988 --> 01:28:51,722 - It's not murder if it's an animal. - Yes, it is. 1213 01:28:51,724 --> 01:28:54,625 Did you murder the chicken that you had for lunch? 1214 01:28:54,627 --> 01:28:56,527 I don't eat meat, sweetheart. 1215 01:28:56,529 --> 01:28:57,762 - Oh, good. - I'm vegan. 1216 01:28:57,764 --> 01:28:59,630 - I don't eat meat. - Okay. Okay. 1217 01:28:59,632 --> 01:29:01,932 'Cause I have regard for all species, 1218 01:29:01,934 --> 01:29:04,335 and all living, breathing things. 1219 01:29:04,337 --> 01:29:05,907 Shame on you! 1220 01:29:06,773 --> 01:29:07,871 Cowards! 1221 01:29:14,113 --> 01:29:16,914 It's human nature to be empathetic with the individual. 1222 01:29:16,916 --> 01:29:19,284 And so the animal rights organizations, 1223 01:29:19,286 --> 01:29:20,552 that's their thinking, 1224 01:29:20,554 --> 01:29:22,320 is the individual. 1225 01:29:22,322 --> 01:29:25,323 As if that's somehow gonna protect the entire area. 1226 01:29:25,325 --> 01:29:27,993 It's gonna protect the whole ecosystem. And it's not. 1227 01:29:27,995 --> 01:29:31,695 So they think in terms of Bambi, or Simba, or Fifi. 1228 01:29:31,697 --> 01:29:33,365 'Cause we can see Fifi, and we know Fifi, 1229 01:29:33,367 --> 01:29:37,134 and we send out photographs of Fifis to our donors. 1230 01:29:37,136 --> 01:29:39,771 Then that's great, okay? 1231 01:29:39,773 --> 01:29:42,874 But Fifi might be in the right middle place 1232 01:29:42,876 --> 01:29:44,441 if she's right in the most protected area, 1233 01:29:44,443 --> 01:29:47,411 and you're ignoring everywhere else around the periphery. 1234 01:29:47,413 --> 01:29:49,280 And all people are cutting away 1235 01:29:49,282 --> 01:29:50,649 and they're felling forests, 1236 01:29:50,651 --> 01:29:51,915 and they're clearing land, 1237 01:29:51,917 --> 01:29:53,384 and they're bringing their livestock 1238 01:29:53,386 --> 01:29:54,755 right next to Fifi. 1239 01:29:55,455 --> 01:29:56,957 And it all goes. 1240 01:29:58,791 --> 01:30:00,057 They're ignoring the fact 1241 01:30:00,059 --> 01:30:03,762 that local people are being killed by lions, 1242 01:30:03,764 --> 01:30:05,396 being trampled by elephants, 1243 01:30:05,398 --> 01:30:06,798 they're losing their crops, 1244 01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:09,837 that they do not share their value system. 1245 01:30:11,104 --> 01:30:13,905 If you cannot empathize with the local people, 1246 01:30:13,907 --> 01:30:16,173 then you're not gonna be at all successful 1247 01:30:16,175 --> 01:30:18,379 in protecting in the long term. 1248 01:30:20,112 --> 01:30:22,480 On the other hand, you have the hunters 1249 01:30:22,482 --> 01:30:24,149 who are convinced 1250 01:30:24,151 --> 01:30:25,616 that where they operate 1251 01:30:25,618 --> 01:30:27,686 they're the last bastion of support 1252 01:30:27,688 --> 01:30:28,953 to protect these areas. 1253 01:30:28,955 --> 01:30:31,690 But to an animal welfare organization, no. 1254 01:30:31,692 --> 01:30:33,127 No animal must die. 1255 01:30:36,095 --> 01:30:38,262 The reality of hunting is that, 1256 01:30:38,264 --> 01:30:41,799 yes, there are a few places where hunting does make a difference. 1257 01:30:41,801 --> 01:30:44,902 But in many areas, the economics don't add up. 1258 01:30:44,904 --> 01:30:46,570 They're not generating enough money. 1259 01:30:46,572 --> 01:30:48,205 The land is being lost, 1260 01:30:48,207 --> 01:30:50,542 especially in the most corrupt countries. 1261 01:30:50,544 --> 01:30:52,310 We've seen that happen over and over 1262 01:30:52,312 --> 01:30:53,578 in many parts of Africa, 1263 01:30:53,580 --> 01:30:55,015 where they go out and say, "Everything is fine." 1264 01:30:55,681 --> 01:30:57,615 No, it's not fine. 1265 01:30:57,617 --> 01:30:58,986 Things are declining. 1266 01:31:09,929 --> 01:31:11,929 What we do is run the camp 1267 01:31:11,931 --> 01:31:13,664 and kind of manage the on-ground management 1268 01:31:13,666 --> 01:31:15,400 of the anti-poaching in the area. 1269 01:31:15,402 --> 01:31:17,235 And we get a daily rate 1270 01:31:17,237 --> 01:31:19,803 when foreign hunters come in to hunt here, 1271 01:31:19,805 --> 01:31:23,575 which really subsidizes 1272 01:31:23,577 --> 01:31:25,446 the money that I have to run my anti-poaching. 1273 01:31:28,047 --> 01:31:33,118 You can imagine all that dust and dirt and rain, and... 1274 01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:35,152 Our firearms take a bit of a hammering. 1275 01:31:35,154 --> 01:31:37,155 That's why we like these AK action. 1276 01:31:37,157 --> 01:31:38,990 'Cause all the AK built in Israel, 1277 01:31:38,992 --> 01:31:40,525 you can't really go wrong with them. 1278 01:31:40,527 --> 01:31:42,196 No, no. 1279 01:31:47,233 --> 01:31:49,102 We're fighting to save this... 1280 01:31:50,871 --> 01:31:52,406 for the community... 1281 01:31:53,540 --> 01:31:57,478 while people kill it. 1282 01:31:59,379 --> 01:32:00,878 It's... 1283 01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:03,580 It really is pretty weird. 1284 01:32:03,582 --> 01:32:04,848 We're fighting to save something 1285 01:32:04,850 --> 01:32:06,920 so that somebody else can kill it. 1286 01:32:09,322 --> 01:32:11,021 It just comes back to... 1287 01:32:11,023 --> 01:32:14,961 control, ethic, morals... 1288 01:32:15,828 --> 01:32:17,230 sustainability. 1289 01:32:18,098 --> 01:32:19,297 You can assimilate the two, 1290 01:32:19,299 --> 01:32:21,699 the poachers and the commercial hunters, 1291 01:32:21,701 --> 01:32:24,505 but the difference is the poachers, 1292 01:32:25,772 --> 01:32:28,606 they shoot anything for their teeth. 1293 01:32:28,608 --> 01:32:30,307 Literally anything. 1294 01:32:30,309 --> 01:32:33,610 And they will shoot every last one that there is, 1295 01:32:33,612 --> 01:32:38,184 because there's a commercial driven desire for these teeth. 1296 01:32:38,684 --> 01:32:41,020 On the hunting side, 1297 01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:43,788 if done correctly, 1298 01:32:43,790 --> 01:32:46,426 where there's a very carefully measured off-take, 1299 01:32:48,295 --> 01:32:51,094 um, I can live with that. 1300 01:32:51,096 --> 01:32:53,597 Killing every last animal? No, I can't live with that. 1301 01:32:53,599 --> 01:32:54,968 Won't do that. 1302 01:32:55,568 --> 01:32:57,004 That's just wrong. 1303 01:33:00,773 --> 01:33:02,106 You loaded up? 1304 01:33:02,108 --> 01:33:03,941 - No. - You gotta load up. 1305 01:33:03,943 --> 01:33:05,513 You never know what we can bump here. 1306 01:33:09,014 --> 01:33:11,115 - I'm not really after a buffalo. - Okay. 1307 01:33:11,117 --> 01:33:13,284 Yeah. I mean, you know what, we're gonna need baits. 1308 01:33:13,286 --> 01:33:16,353 So we've got three more places to bait. 1309 01:33:16,355 --> 01:33:18,823 But it's your call. You know, I mean, I could-- 1310 01:33:18,825 --> 01:33:20,924 How much am I paying for the hippo for bait? 1311 01:33:20,926 --> 01:33:22,927 Four seven-fifty. 1312 01:33:22,929 --> 01:33:24,628 - And how much for a buffalo? - 5,500. 1313 01:33:24,630 --> 01:33:26,032 Okay. 1314 01:33:35,642 --> 01:33:36,740 Okay. 1315 01:33:36,742 --> 01:33:38,176 When you're ready, take it. 1316 01:33:57,831 --> 01:34:00,063 This is one of now probably 17 baits 1317 01:34:00,065 --> 01:34:02,066 we've put up so far for Philip. 1318 01:34:02,068 --> 01:34:05,302 We've used hippo, zebra, impala. 1319 01:34:05,304 --> 01:34:08,772 And our biggest problem is they're rotting really quick. 1320 01:34:08,774 --> 01:34:11,743 They're only lasting two or three days, so... 1321 01:34:11,745 --> 01:34:14,878 Hopefully, cats find this in the next two days while it's still fresh, 1322 01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:16,517 and give us a little luck. 1323 01:34:20,319 --> 01:34:21,552 You know, the Bible says 1324 01:34:21,554 --> 01:34:24,588 He gave man dominion over all the animals. 1325 01:34:24,590 --> 01:34:27,458 And that dominion comes with a responsibility. 1326 01:34:27,460 --> 01:34:30,261 But it also means it's the right to use. 1327 01:34:30,263 --> 01:34:32,362 And so, I think that is a big part of it. 1328 01:34:32,364 --> 01:34:34,766 And it's a big part of appreciating God's creation. 1329 01:34:34,768 --> 01:34:36,734 Some people think, "How can you go out 1330 01:34:36,736 --> 01:34:39,070 and shoot God's creation?" 1331 01:34:39,072 --> 01:34:41,539 That's a totally false statement. 1332 01:34:41,541 --> 01:34:42,740 False point of view. 1333 01:34:42,742 --> 01:34:44,308 God said we have dominion over the animals. 1334 01:34:44,310 --> 01:34:47,145 That means we can do what we choose with them. 1335 01:34:47,147 --> 01:34:49,582 It's a very powerful statement that's in the Bible. 1336 01:34:53,586 --> 01:34:54,852 Give me the rams. 1337 01:35:00,260 --> 01:35:02,293 I think it does make it more special for me as a believer 1338 01:35:02,295 --> 01:35:03,794 to go out there and pursue these animals 1339 01:35:03,796 --> 01:35:04,995 and know that God placed them. 1340 01:35:04,997 --> 01:35:07,065 And when I put my hand on that lion, 1341 01:35:07,067 --> 01:35:08,368 I can promise you, 1342 01:35:09,868 --> 01:35:12,136 at that moment, as with all of my life, 1343 01:35:12,138 --> 01:35:16,140 anybody that believes in evolution is a complete fool. 1344 01:35:16,142 --> 01:35:18,075 I just don't understand how people can't understand 1345 01:35:18,077 --> 01:35:20,511 that God raised that animal into existence. 1346 01:36:27,514 --> 01:36:29,379 A thought came to mind as I was coming here, 1347 01:36:29,381 --> 01:36:32,249 and beginning to feel the emotion 1348 01:36:32,251 --> 01:36:34,654 and the anticipation of this big hunt. 1349 01:36:37,857 --> 01:36:41,659 I've been a hunter my whole life. 1350 01:36:41,661 --> 01:36:43,227 They say I fell out of the hunting vehicle 1351 01:36:43,229 --> 01:36:44,494 when I was two or three years old, 1352 01:36:44,496 --> 01:36:45,495 and landed on my head. 1353 01:36:45,497 --> 01:36:47,300 Maybe that's what wrong with me sometimes. 1354 01:36:48,434 --> 01:36:51,235 And, you know, I lost my dad a few years ago, 1355 01:36:51,237 --> 01:36:52,439 and he was a hunter. 1356 01:36:54,239 --> 01:36:56,274 At the time, I was a little angry with him, 1357 01:36:56,276 --> 01:36:57,674 the way he would treat me. 1358 01:36:57,676 --> 01:36:59,377 He would do funny things to me 1359 01:36:59,379 --> 01:37:01,215 to make me learn to hunt. 1360 01:37:01,814 --> 01:37:03,080 We'd be in a pickup, 1361 01:37:03,082 --> 01:37:05,083 and whether it was a rabbit or a deer, 1362 01:37:05,085 --> 01:37:06,750 summer or winter, 1363 01:37:06,752 --> 01:37:09,186 we'd be driving along, and he would see some game. 1364 01:37:09,188 --> 01:37:10,487 And all he would do is turn the engine off 1365 01:37:10,489 --> 01:37:12,923 and sit there and not say a word. 1366 01:37:12,925 --> 01:37:14,959 And I would have to find the animal, 1367 01:37:14,961 --> 01:37:17,297 get out of the vehicle, and go take a shot. 1368 01:37:20,599 --> 01:37:21,899 But he challenged me. 1369 01:37:21,901 --> 01:37:23,767 My dad challenged me in many ways. 1370 01:37:23,769 --> 01:37:24,638 That was just one way. 1371 01:37:28,440 --> 01:37:29,574 And... 1372 01:37:30,910 --> 01:37:32,642 I think that he would be really tickled 1373 01:37:32,644 --> 01:37:34,011 to be able to tell people 1374 01:37:34,013 --> 01:37:35,480 back home at the coffee shop, 1375 01:37:35,482 --> 01:37:37,684 and when I say "coffee shop" I mean the Dairy Queen, 1376 01:37:38,617 --> 01:37:40,852 that his son is out hunting a lion. 1377 01:37:40,854 --> 01:37:44,391 I think if he was around he would've really got a big kick out of that. 1378 01:37:52,264 --> 01:37:54,231 It would be better if he was a little bit up. 1379 01:37:54,233 --> 01:37:56,566 - It'll be out. - Yeah. 1380 01:37:56,568 --> 01:37:59,305 It'll work, but if you can make it up a little bit. 1381 01:37:59,906 --> 01:38:01,274 Down just a bit. 1382 01:38:01,974 --> 01:38:02,843 Right there. 1383 01:38:41,781 --> 01:38:43,780 Look at his hair. 1384 01:38:43,782 --> 01:38:45,449 That feels right. 1385 01:38:45,451 --> 01:38:48,689 You wouldn't believe it, but hair patterns are very important. 1386 01:38:49,755 --> 01:38:53,292 It's not gonna look alive if it's mangy. 1387 01:38:55,461 --> 01:38:57,594 I actually have nothing for myself. 1388 01:38:57,596 --> 01:38:59,597 I've never kept a piece of work. 1389 01:38:59,599 --> 01:39:00,798 Ever. 1390 01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:04,869 One day I'll probably end up buying a skin from a zoo, 1391 01:39:04,871 --> 01:39:07,471 one that's expired, 1392 01:39:07,473 --> 01:39:09,408 and create my own little private museum. 1393 01:39:11,678 --> 01:39:14,148 Even if it's private, it's still something 1394 01:39:15,281 --> 01:39:18,382 that will preserve it when it's long gone. 1395 01:39:18,384 --> 01:39:21,321 Which is inevitable the way we carry on in this world. 1396 01:39:23,656 --> 01:39:26,660 People are killing animals for the wrong reasons. 1397 01:39:28,361 --> 01:39:30,831 Like poaching, using them for... 1398 01:39:31,663 --> 01:39:33,731 completely irrational... 1399 01:39:33,733 --> 01:39:36,299 What do you call it? Illogical reasons like medicine. 1400 01:39:36,301 --> 01:39:37,834 It doesn't work. 1401 01:39:37,836 --> 01:39:39,136 It's just a fantasy. 1402 01:39:39,138 --> 01:39:40,605 And besides that, 1403 01:39:40,607 --> 01:39:45,008 the dissipation of their natural habitat, 1404 01:39:45,010 --> 01:39:47,344 they've got nowhere else to go. 1405 01:39:47,346 --> 01:39:48,916 They come into conflict with people. 1406 01:39:50,116 --> 01:39:51,685 They always come second. 1407 01:39:52,385 --> 01:39:54,151 So there's that too. 1408 01:39:54,153 --> 01:39:57,187 Animals will end up one day behind cages 1409 01:39:57,189 --> 01:39:59,589 like we have in zoos, but on a larger scale, 1410 01:39:59,591 --> 01:40:02,692 or just fantasies that people talk about. 1411 01:40:02,694 --> 01:40:04,794 "One day there were these animals..." 1412 01:40:04,796 --> 01:40:07,698 So this might do justice to them at least. 1413 01:40:07,700 --> 01:40:09,533 At least that's what I aim for. 1414 01:40:09,535 --> 01:40:11,235 'Cause if they do become extinct one day, 1415 01:40:11,237 --> 01:40:13,873 then there's something to show the world what they look like. 1416 01:40:15,274 --> 01:40:17,443 Yeah, get the clear quickly. 1417 01:40:51,376 --> 01:40:53,679 I really feel as if they know 1418 01:40:54,313 --> 01:40:55,915 that they're in danger. 1419 01:41:00,053 --> 01:41:01,552 They know 1420 01:41:01,554 --> 01:41:05,524 that they're not equipped to avoid extinction. 1421 01:41:12,398 --> 01:41:15,569 It is humans that have messed up their lives. 1422 01:41:19,839 --> 01:41:20,907 We are to blame. 1423 01:41:29,247 --> 01:41:31,816 And it makes me understand 1424 01:41:31,818 --> 01:41:34,185 that I cannot give up. 1425 01:41:50,603 --> 01:41:55,375 Why should we save any species from extinction? 1426 01:41:58,577 --> 01:42:01,614 It's almost like, why should we breathe? 1427 01:42:03,049 --> 01:42:05,383 It's because it's us. 1428 01:42:05,385 --> 01:42:07,884 Surely we want 1429 01:42:07,886 --> 01:42:09,589 our world to survive. 1430 01:42:10,956 --> 01:42:14,727 We want our world to be a better place. 1431 01:42:54,666 --> 01:42:57,370 Fantastic, buddy. Excellent shot. 1432 01:43:02,041 --> 01:43:04,444 My gosh. 1433 01:43:53,626 --> 01:43:55,959 You laid down the sticks, didn't you? 1434 01:44:01,466 --> 01:44:02,701 That was a good idea. 1435 01:44:32,130 --> 01:44:33,963 You don't want those to get a hold of you. 1436 01:44:33,965 --> 01:44:35,234 I promise you that. 1437 01:44:36,469 --> 01:44:37,904 Those teeth are just... 1438 01:44:39,037 --> 01:44:41,540 absolutely magnificent. 1439 01:44:44,510 --> 01:44:46,079 What a mane. Look at that red. 1440 01:44:46,912 --> 01:44:48,080 And black. 1441 01:44:50,448 --> 01:44:51,884 Black on its ears. 1442 01:44:53,352 --> 01:44:54,754 Green eyes. 1443 01:44:57,889 --> 01:45:00,391 And he's an old, old male. 1444 01:45:00,393 --> 01:45:02,028 Really a one of a kind. 1445 01:45:03,429 --> 01:45:05,896 I made the decision several months ago 1446 01:45:05,898 --> 01:45:07,630 that I was coming to hunt lion 1447 01:45:07,632 --> 01:45:09,066 and this is my trophy. 1448 01:45:09,068 --> 01:45:11,771 There's not any bureaucrat that can take it away from me. 1449 01:45:19,778 --> 01:45:22,281 Okay. Martin, can we set him up to take some pictures? 1450 01:46:19,746 --> 01:46:24,746 Subtitles by explosiveskull110306

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