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In today's age, with social media,
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people meet people online.
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It's not necessarily a bad thing,
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but you definitely have
to take more precautions.
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Everybody can lie on the internet.
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But when you start
meeting someone in person
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after meeting them on social
dating sites and that,
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you have to pay attention
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to what your senses are telling you.
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Almost every single day, we
hear somebody's got lured in,
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been sexually assaulted,
something's gone on.
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Police officer testified...
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Shows him to be a huge fan
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of the television show, Dexter.
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Edmonton is like any
big city in this country.
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There's a lot of violent crime,
but this case was unique.
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Reporters flew into Edmonton
from all over the world
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to get a look at the Dexter Killer.
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The lead role in a trial
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that's expected to generate
international media attention.
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The call came in on a Sunday afternoon.
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Unless we've got some special plans,
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I'm just sitting on the
couch watching football.
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Anstey, why the hell
are you calling me in?
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This is a missing person's case.
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It wasn't my call.
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Murph suspects the worst on this one.
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He wanted somebody from
homicide to take a look at it.
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Besides, look, there's something
funny stuff with the case.
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You know, he may be right.
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We may have a murder
on our hands. Come on.
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Right away I'm thinking, missing what?
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Who, who's calling us out?
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Because if it's some
young guy, I'm thinking,
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what does this guy know, you know?
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So, I'm a little hesitant at the start.
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Because homicide doesn't go
out to missing person cases.
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His name is John Brian
Altinger, 38 years old.
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Oil field pipe inspector.
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Born here, moved to BC as a teenager,
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then back to Edmonton a few years ago.
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He had last been seen on October
10th which was, you know,
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nine days before we were
called in from homicide.
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The police had started the
investigation two days before,
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on the Friday night.
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His friend, Dale Smith, called it in
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after getting a suspicious
e-mail from John.
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A week ago, John goes
out on a date with Jen,
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a girl he met on a dating website.
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Three days later, Smith gets an e-mail
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saying John's decided to take
off for Costa Rica...
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with Jen.
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"Hey there, I've met an
extraordinary woman named Jen
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who has offered to take me on
a nice long tropical vacation.
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We'll be staying at her
winter home in Costa Rica,
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phone number to follow soon.
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I won't be back in town
until December 10th,
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but I will be checking
my e-mail periodically.
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See you around the holidays. Johnny."
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Well, this seems to me that we should be
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congratulating Johnny,
not looking for him.
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I don't know this guy, I don't
know what his lifestyle's like.
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I don't know any of that.
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So I'm thinking maybe it is possible.
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Maybe he did take off with this,
this girl to, to Costa Rica.
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I mean, that's a possibility.
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So I'm asking 'em questions.
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You know, have you checked the airports?
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Have you gone through all those
parking lots and Park 'N Rides
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looking for his vehicle?
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That's his car. And yes, we
did a full grid search
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looking for it. Nothing.
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What about his computer?
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According to Dale Smith, it's missing.
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How would Dale Smith know that?
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He broke into his apartment,
he was checking up on him.
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Well. Uh, what about
this girl he dated, this Jen?
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Couldn't find her profile
on the dating site.
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- Ah.
- All we have are the directions
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she left for John for where
to meet for their date.
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Johnny Altinger on Friday, October 10th,
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was going to meet a girl he met online
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on one of the dating sites.
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So, he went to meet this girl,
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but he had e-mailed one of his buddies,
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one of his close friends,
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the location of where he was going.
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And what was odd was, it
was directions to a garage.
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The guy who rents the place
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let us in to have a quick look.
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We did bring him in for an interview.
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Ok, well, let's uh,
check out this interview.
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So I thought, I'll go watch
the interview of this guy
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and see what I think.
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I'm looking for signs of deception.
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Is he nervous?
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All that type of stuff.
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I've been renting the garage
for a couple of weeks now.
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It's a great little
movie studio, actually.
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Movie studio?
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The guy's a local filmmaker.
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Low budget sci-fi,
horror, stuff like that.
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So let me get this straight,
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the guy that's renting my
garage was going on a date?
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And now he's missing?
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It's funny, because
when I let you guys in,
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I did notice the lock was tampered with.
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But I looked around and
nothing was missing.
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You guys looked in the garage?
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Yeah. It's like he said,
a little movie set.
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He wasn't giving short
answers, he was open, you know,
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he's sitting on his chair, he's relaxed.
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This Mark guy interviewed really well.
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It looks to me like he's
not involved in this.
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Well, I've seen all I need to see,
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this guy has nothing
to do with this case.
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Have you checked John's apartment?
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I'll get Ident on it and
see what they can dig up.
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I'm going to head to the garage
and see if anything was missed.
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The garage is the key.
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We believe that he did go to
that garage on October the 10th.
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But, we don't know that for sure.
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So I wanted to go in and take a look.
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It's in the southeast side of the city,
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in a residential community
that's middle class, Mill Woods.
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Just an average community
you find in any city.
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Hi there.
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I'm uh, looking for Jen?
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Eh, no, no. No Jen here.
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There was a Mexican man
living in the house.
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The house and garage
were rented separately.
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Detective Clark, Edmonton Police.
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Do you know a Jen? Any Jen?
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And how about this guy?
Have you ever seen him?
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They never heard of this guy.
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There was no girl named
Jen living there, nothing.
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It was weird. It was weird.
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Have you noticed any strange
activity back there lately?
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Eh, si, uh, muchas luces...
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um, many voices.
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Filman peliculas aca, you know, movies?
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Well, thank you.
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Basically, the garage was
nothing out of the ordinary.
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Police patrol members had
already been in that garage
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the night before.
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Mark had let them in, they
had a quick look around.
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Didn't see anything out of the ordinary.
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But, they have a different mindset.
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I always say as a homicide investigator,
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we're preparing this case for court.
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You have to do everything right,
there's no cutting corners.
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Even though it belonged to
this Mark guy, we thought,
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let's just get a search warrant,
this is the last place we
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believe this guy has been seen.
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Anstey.
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Look, I'm going to need to
get into this garage.
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While we waited for the
warrant to come through,
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my team and I visited
Altinger's apartment
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to see if anything came up
that looked unusual.
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Hey, Nance!
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Hey!
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John's place was a mess.
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It was, you know, it wasn't tidy,
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it was a bachelor pad and
he wasn't too worried about,
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you know, impressing anybody.
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Wow!
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I really love what you've
done with the place.
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Very funny.
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Could be ransacked.
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Clearly, you've never
lived with teenage boys.
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I'm serious.
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That patio door over there
was used as a point of entry.
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And the computer's missing.
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Kind of hard to travel without
luggage, don't you think?
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There's one thing for sure.
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Hey, Nancy.
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You're definitely not
leaving the country
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in today's day and age
without a valid passport.
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That was a telltale sign.
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So we knew he hadn't left
the country without that.
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All I know is that the minute
I got that e-mail saying he was
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going to Costa Rica, I
knew something was wrong.
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Dale Smith was very suspicious.
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Johnny was a good friend of his.
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Dale really thought that
something happened to Johnny.
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He wanted to get to the bottom of it,
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he wanted to help find his friend.
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Did John have any enemies?
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Anyone who'd want to hurt him?
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No way. No, John's a good dude.
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He really cares about people.
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He loves paintball and
motorcycles, and computers.
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He even convinced me to
buy my first computer.
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Ever use it for internet dating?
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Me? No, no-no.
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That's John's thing.
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He's got a bunch of
friends around that stuff.
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They swap stories of different
dates they've been on.
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But not me. No, no. Can't trust it.
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Mm-hm.
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Did he ever tell you any stories?
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Not usually.
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Well, then why would
he decide to call you
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right before his date with Jen?
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He thought there was
something off about her.
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Like, she was very forward, but
wouldn't give her phone number.
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He was very excited to meet her, though.
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Excited enough to give you
directions before he went.
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Well, she gave him directions
instead of an address.
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He thought it was weird, so he
wanted to make sure that I knew
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where he was going, just in
case something bad happened.
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You gotta believe me.
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My suspicion is piqued that yeah,
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we are now moving into a
homicide investigation here.
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We believed that
John had not left the country,
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but where was he?
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Was he vacationing with
Jen somewhere else?
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Was he just at a lake?
He could be anywhere.
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But it just didn't make any sense.
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What's he writing?
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It's a list of people who know Altinger.
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He said the Costa Rica e-mail went out
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to all of his friends and family.
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Well, not all of them.
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We just talked to a guy
who considers himself
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one of Altinger's best friends.
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He never got an e-mail about
Costa Rica or anything.
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We need to learn everything
we can about Altinger.
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Let's contact everyone on that list.
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All right, I'll get the guys on it.
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Right, thanks.
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I'll go chat with the family.
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As a homicide investigator,
talking to the family
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of a missing loved one,
it's, it's tough.
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You know, I want to give
them all the information,
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I know they got a million
questions that I can't answer.
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I'm just trying to reassure them
and take the first steps that,
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"Hey, we're looking into this.
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Honestly, we, we don't
know what we have."
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So when was the last time you saw John?
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Uh, last, last August.
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He drove out here on his
motorcycle after one of those...
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failed on-line relationships.
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So did he do a lot of on-line dating?
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Yeah, sure.
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He almost got married
a couple of years ago.
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Nice girl.
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Bought a ring and everything,
but uh, it didn't work out.
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00:12:33,645 --> 00:12:35,179
So he was...
252
00:12:35,213 --> 00:12:36,647
looking for love.
253
00:12:36,681 --> 00:12:39,083
Yeah, you could say that, sure.
254
00:12:39,117 --> 00:12:42,086
Do you think that he found it uh, love,
255
00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:43,954
with this uh, Jen girl?
256
00:12:43,989 --> 00:12:48,659
I don't believe he'd run off to
Costa Rica on a whim like that,
257
00:12:48,693 --> 00:12:50,394
no matter who he met.
258
00:12:50,428 --> 00:12:52,563
Why not?
259
00:12:52,597 --> 00:12:54,064
Not like him.
260
00:12:54,099 --> 00:12:59,003
I mean, John's always been a
very caring and connected guy.
261
00:12:59,037 --> 00:13:01,939
You know, he, he's
always there for people.
262
00:13:01,973 --> 00:13:04,141
He just wouldn't take off like that.
263
00:13:04,175 --> 00:13:08,579
You know um, after our
dad died, John came and,
264
00:13:08,613 --> 00:13:10,714
and stayed with our mom...
265
00:13:10,749 --> 00:13:12,683
just to look after her.
266
00:13:12,717 --> 00:13:14,518
I mean, he stayed there for three years.
267
00:13:14,552 --> 00:13:17,688
That's, that's the kind of man he is.
268
00:13:19,190 --> 00:13:21,659
Johnny Altinger, he
was just a decent guy.
269
00:13:21,693 --> 00:13:23,794
Liked by everybody.
270
00:13:23,828 --> 00:13:26,664
You know, just the, uh,
he was just Joe Average.
271
00:13:26,698 --> 00:13:31,035
Would you mind providing us
with a sample of your DNA?
272
00:13:31,069 --> 00:13:33,604
It's a formality. Just in case.
273
00:13:33,638 --> 00:13:35,306
Sure. Whatever you need.
274
00:13:35,340 --> 00:13:39,109
Right. And um, I'll tell
you what, here's my card
275
00:13:39,144 --> 00:13:42,947
just in case there's
anything that you'd like to add.
276
00:13:44,783 --> 00:13:46,884
There's nothing worse than
missing a loved one
277
00:13:46,918 --> 00:13:50,054
and not knowing if
they're alive or dead.
278
00:13:50,088 --> 00:13:52,990
But the whole issue becomes even
larger when you're getting a
279
00:13:53,024 --> 00:13:56,727
call from a homicide detective
and he's telling you that,
280
00:13:56,761 --> 00:13:59,363
"Hey, we're looking into
this disappearance."
281
00:13:59,397 --> 00:14:02,499
It's just gotta be
horrible on the family.
282
00:14:02,534 --> 00:14:05,235
My mother's flying back
from Mexico this weekend.
283
00:14:08,173 --> 00:14:10,507
What do I tell her?
284
00:14:10,542 --> 00:14:15,012
That we're investigating this
as a, a missing person's case.
285
00:14:16,982 --> 00:14:19,183
Then why does your card say 'homicide'?
286
00:14:23,989 --> 00:14:26,090
We need to get into that garage...
287
00:14:26,124 --> 00:14:27,591
where Altinger met his date.
288
00:14:27,625 --> 00:14:29,593
I wrote up a warrant,
but it was refused.
289
00:14:29,627 --> 00:14:31,428
- What?
- They said there was no proof
290
00:14:31,463 --> 00:14:33,764
that a crime had been committed there.
291
00:14:33,798 --> 00:14:35,432
It's like a lightbulb went off, I go,
292
00:14:35,467 --> 00:14:37,601
yeah, we really can't prove
there's been a crime committed,
293
00:14:37,635 --> 00:14:39,136
so you can't get a search warrant
294
00:14:39,170 --> 00:14:40,337
just to go search something.
295
00:14:40,372 --> 00:14:42,272
You're not allowed to go
on fishing expeditions,
296
00:14:42,307 --> 00:14:44,441
you've got to prove there's
a crime been committed
297
00:14:44,476 --> 00:14:46,343
to get a warrant to go in.
298
00:14:46,378 --> 00:14:48,579
So I'm going, oh yeah,
well, that's a smart judge.
299
00:14:49,814 --> 00:14:51,281
Ah, forget it.
300
00:14:51,316 --> 00:14:52,416
What?
301
00:14:52,450 --> 00:14:54,685
We'll just go to the
guy who rents the place
302
00:14:54,719 --> 00:14:56,487
and get the keys.
303
00:14:56,521 --> 00:14:59,556
He gave them to an officer
before, he'll do it again.
304
00:14:59,591 --> 00:15:01,058
So, I phone him up.
305
00:15:01,092 --> 00:15:03,494
I just say, hey, we need
to get in the garage,
306
00:15:03,528 --> 00:15:05,896
we want to have a really good
look around, do you mind?
307
00:15:05,930 --> 00:15:07,564
First time I've ever talked to the guy,
308
00:15:07,599 --> 00:15:09,366
and I've only talked
to him on the phone.
309
00:15:09,401 --> 00:15:10,801
He's Mister Cooperative.
310
00:15:10,835 --> 00:15:13,003
I says, I just need you
to sign a consent form
311
00:15:13,038 --> 00:15:14,304
that we can search the garage.
312
00:15:14,339 --> 00:15:15,506
He goes, oh, not a problem.
313
00:15:15,540 --> 00:15:17,708
I says, I'll send a guy
up there to meet you.
314
00:15:17,742 --> 00:15:20,144
You can give the key, he'll
get you to sign this form
315
00:15:20,178 --> 00:15:21,311
and we'll have a look.
316
00:15:21,346 --> 00:15:22,613
This'll get you in.
317
00:15:22,647 --> 00:15:24,081
Thanks.
318
00:15:24,115 --> 00:15:25,149
Sorry about all the trouble.
319
00:15:25,183 --> 00:15:27,051
No. No trouble at all.
320
00:15:27,085 --> 00:15:30,621
Murphy gets him in his car and...
321
00:15:30,655 --> 00:15:32,189
the case changes.
322
00:15:32,223 --> 00:15:34,725
This is where everything turned.
323
00:15:34,759 --> 00:15:36,593
But could you help me out?
324
00:15:36,628 --> 00:15:38,996
Could you see if your guys
found out anything about my car?
325
00:15:39,030 --> 00:15:40,297
Your car? What about it?
326
00:15:40,331 --> 00:15:42,166
It was broken into a
couple of weeks ago.
327
00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:43,367
I filed a report.
328
00:15:43,401 --> 00:15:45,736
Some stuff was missing. A few receipts.
329
00:15:45,770 --> 00:15:46,970
One was for the garage rental
330
00:15:47,005 --> 00:15:48,605
and the other had my address on it.
331
00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,607
So I'm just kind of
worried that, you know,
332
00:15:50,642 --> 00:15:52,876
someone's out there messing with me.
333
00:15:52,911 --> 00:15:54,278
Maybe stealing my identity.
334
00:15:54,312 --> 00:15:56,080
What makes you think that?
335
00:15:56,114 --> 00:15:58,282
Well, a few days after, I
came home with my wife
336
00:15:58,316 --> 00:15:59,516
and our door was unlocked.
337
00:16:01,486 --> 00:16:02,886
Was anything stolen from the house?
338
00:16:02,921 --> 00:16:04,455
No, no.
339
00:16:04,489 --> 00:16:07,091
But I'm just, I'm getting this
impression that I'm being,
340
00:16:07,125 --> 00:16:08,358
I don't know, watched.
341
00:16:08,393 --> 00:16:10,194
- Watched?
- Yeah.
342
00:16:10,228 --> 00:16:12,096
How?
343
00:16:12,130 --> 00:16:14,865
A couple of days ago I'm out
near my garage working on a set,
344
00:16:14,899 --> 00:16:18,268
and this guy taps on my window
and he tells me this story about
345
00:16:18,303 --> 00:16:21,772
how he met this rich girl who's
going to take him on vacation
346
00:16:21,806 --> 00:16:23,540
and she wants him to sell his car.
347
00:16:23,575 --> 00:16:26,143
And she's going to buy him a
new one when they get back.
348
00:16:26,177 --> 00:16:28,278
So he's like, 'you
wanna buy a car?' I'm like,
349
00:16:28,313 --> 00:16:30,547
'I don't have enough money
on me to buy a car.'
350
00:16:30,582 --> 00:16:34,118
And he's like, 'how
much you got in your wallet?'
351
00:16:34,152 --> 00:16:40,023
I say, 'forty bucks.'
He's like, 'Yeah, sold!'
352
00:16:40,058 --> 00:16:42,059
You don't buy a car
for forty dollars. Come on!
353
00:16:42,093 --> 00:16:44,461
I don't care who you are,
this just doesn't make sense.
354
00:16:44,496 --> 00:16:47,531
So it's like, right away, big red flag.
355
00:16:47,565 --> 00:16:51,368
It's like, things aren't right here.
356
00:16:51,402 --> 00:16:53,403
Where is the car that you
bought? Is it here?
357
00:16:53,438 --> 00:16:55,839
No, it's at my friend Joss Hnatiuk's.
358
00:16:55,874 --> 00:16:57,674
It's a stick and I
can't even drive manual,
359
00:16:57,709 --> 00:16:59,209
so I'm keeping it there.
360
00:16:59,244 --> 00:17:01,211
I can give you his
address if you need it.
361
00:17:01,246 --> 00:17:03,347
OK. What kind of car is it?
362
00:17:03,381 --> 00:17:05,349
It's a red Mazda 3.
363
00:17:05,383 --> 00:17:07,784
Exactly the same car as John Altinger.
364
00:17:07,819 --> 00:17:10,020
I says, holy mackerel, we
need to get this guy in.
365
00:17:10,054 --> 00:17:12,055
We need to get him in
here for an interview.
366
00:17:13,258 --> 00:17:15,058
Now Detective Anstey
and I are scrambling:
367
00:17:15,093 --> 00:17:17,394
how do we get this guy down?
368
00:17:17,428 --> 00:17:21,365
Let's ask the guy to just
come down on his own.
369
00:17:21,399 --> 00:17:23,600
He's got his car there
anyway, he's with Murphy,
370
00:17:23,635 --> 00:17:25,936
he's got his own car, let's
tell him to drive down.
371
00:17:33,077 --> 00:17:35,679
He's still working on his statement?
372
00:17:35,713 --> 00:17:38,549
Two hours and counting.
373
00:17:38,583 --> 00:17:40,584
Like he's writing his next movie.
374
00:17:44,355 --> 00:17:46,023
Uh, I better pull up a chair.
375
00:17:47,825 --> 00:17:50,594
So we're waiting and we're
watching and he's writing,
376
00:17:50,628 --> 00:17:52,462
and he's writing, and he's writing.
377
00:17:52,497 --> 00:17:54,865
And he goes page after page, after page.
378
00:17:54,899 --> 00:17:56,400
He writes eight pages!
379
00:18:00,605 --> 00:18:01,572
Thanks, Mark.
380
00:18:03,575 --> 00:18:05,242
So I read it over.
381
00:18:05,276 --> 00:18:07,678
It indicated that he was
producing a film or something,
382
00:18:07,712 --> 00:18:10,013
shooting some type of
short film in this garage.
383
00:18:10,048 --> 00:18:13,450
Well, he just rambles on and
on about the movie-making.
384
00:18:13,484 --> 00:18:16,086
And then the red car is
basically two small paragraphs
385
00:18:16,120 --> 00:18:17,955
on one page.
386
00:18:17,989 --> 00:18:20,157
And that's the big incident.
387
00:18:20,191 --> 00:18:21,758
I'm thinking it's a sign of deception,
388
00:18:21,793 --> 00:18:23,994
he's not telling me the whole
story about the red car.
389
00:18:25,463 --> 00:18:26,997
This is great.
390
00:18:27,031 --> 00:18:27,965
Very detailed.
391
00:18:27,999 --> 00:18:29,433
You're a hell of a writer, Mark.
392
00:18:29,467 --> 00:18:30,500
I try.
393
00:18:30,535 --> 00:18:32,469
Yeah, I just have one question, though.
394
00:18:32,503 --> 00:18:34,371
Why didn't you mention any of this
395
00:18:34,405 --> 00:18:36,673
when you first showed us the garage?
396
00:18:36,708 --> 00:18:38,375
I didn't think it was related.
397
00:18:38,409 --> 00:18:40,477
But then I talked to
my wife and, you know,
398
00:18:40,511 --> 00:18:42,079
she thought I should mention it, so.
399
00:18:42,113 --> 00:18:44,481
You think the guy that sold you
the car for forty dollars
400
00:18:44,515 --> 00:18:48,585
had anything to do with John
Altinger's disappearance?
401
00:18:48,620 --> 00:18:50,153
I don't know.
402
00:18:50,188 --> 00:18:53,323
Looking back on it, yeah,
it sure feels that way.
403
00:18:53,358 --> 00:18:55,225
Look, I feel like an
idiot for having thought
404
00:18:55,260 --> 00:18:57,494
that this car situation
was on the uh, up and up.
405
00:18:57,528 --> 00:19:00,497
So, if it's all the same to you,
I would prefer if I just gave
406
00:19:00,531 --> 00:19:02,733
you the keys to the Mazda
and be done with it.
407
00:19:02,767 --> 00:19:04,701
I brought them with
me, they're in the car.
408
00:19:04,736 --> 00:19:06,169
That sounds great.
409
00:19:06,204 --> 00:19:07,838
Let me just check with my partner,
410
00:19:07,872 --> 00:19:10,674
see if he has any more questions and uh,
411
00:19:10,708 --> 00:19:11,975
we'll get you on your way.
412
00:19:26,057 --> 00:19:28,158
Hello?
413
00:19:28,192 --> 00:19:30,894
Yeah, still here.
414
00:19:30,928 --> 00:19:33,163
What?
415
00:19:33,197 --> 00:19:34,765
Yeah, it turns out that the car
416
00:19:34,799 --> 00:19:36,233
doesn't belong to that missing guy.
417
00:19:36,267 --> 00:19:38,435
It's just a big mess.
418
00:19:38,469 --> 00:19:42,239
I'll be home soon, OK?
419
00:19:42,273 --> 00:19:44,541
I'll call you when I'm on my way.
420
00:19:44,575 --> 00:19:46,176
All right. Bye.
421
00:19:47,278 --> 00:19:49,846
He's lying.
422
00:19:49,881 --> 00:19:51,448
Not what you said last time.
423
00:19:51,482 --> 00:19:53,817
Well, last time there
was no pressure on him.
424
00:19:53,851 --> 00:19:55,218
It was a soft interview. This time,
425
00:19:55,253 --> 00:19:57,454
I'm starting to lean
on him a bit about the car
426
00:19:57,488 --> 00:20:00,357
he bought, and he's starting
to show signs of deception.
427
00:20:00,391 --> 00:20:01,558
I mean, look at him.
428
00:20:01,592 --> 00:20:03,694
Biting his lip, he's got dry mouth...
429
00:20:03,728 --> 00:20:05,696
We can't arrest a guy
for having dry mouth.
430
00:20:05,730 --> 00:20:08,198
Yeah, and you can't buy a
car for forty dollars either.
431
00:20:08,232 --> 00:20:09,800
I'm not arguing with you.
432
00:20:09,834 --> 00:20:11,802
But everything he says checks out.
433
00:20:11,836 --> 00:20:13,236
Them breaking into his car.
434
00:20:13,271 --> 00:20:15,238
Look, he, he filed a
report the very next day.
435
00:20:15,273 --> 00:20:17,708
Yeah, right, someone breaks
into his car to take receipts?
436
00:20:17,742 --> 00:20:19,343
Does that mean they're following him?
437
00:20:19,377 --> 00:20:20,677
They're trying to frame him?
438
00:20:20,712 --> 00:20:22,479
I just think we've got to
be careful here,
439
00:20:22,513 --> 00:20:24,047
we've got nothing to charge him with.
440
00:20:24,082 --> 00:20:25,782
So far, he's been cooperative.
441
00:20:25,817 --> 00:20:30,887
Yeah, well, let's see if he
cooperates enough to confess.
442
00:20:30,922 --> 00:20:32,856
What? Where you going?
443
00:20:53,878 --> 00:20:55,278
Mark, did you have anything to do
444
00:20:55,313 --> 00:20:57,681
with the disappearance of John Altinger?
445
00:20:57,715 --> 00:20:59,349
No!
446
00:20:59,384 --> 00:21:01,385
Because I have no doubt in my mind
447
00:21:02,417 --> 00:21:05,607
that you were involved
in his disappearance.
448
00:21:05,608 --> 00:21:06,623
Why?
449
00:21:06,657 --> 00:21:08,225
Because you're not telling us the truth.
450
00:21:08,259 --> 00:21:10,060
You haven't told us
anything near the truth.
451
00:21:14,632 --> 00:21:16,133
Is this some sort of scare tactic?
452
00:21:22,340 --> 00:21:25,142
Mark, you're not dumb.
453
00:21:25,176 --> 00:21:26,943
You know you can't buy
a car that's worth
454
00:21:26,978 --> 00:21:29,513
over ten grand for forty dollars.
455
00:21:29,547 --> 00:21:31,882
So just tell me what happened to John.
456
00:21:31,916 --> 00:21:33,283
Tell me where he is.
457
00:21:33,317 --> 00:21:36,153
You can't live with this
for the rest of your life.
458
00:21:45,830 --> 00:21:47,397
I want a lawyer.
459
00:21:56,464 --> 00:21:58,665
I took the chance and
pushed the envelope.
460
00:21:58,700 --> 00:22:01,368
In the end, we've got no
evidence, we've got nothing.
461
00:22:01,402 --> 00:22:02,669
Maybe he's not involved.
462
00:22:02,704 --> 00:22:04,171
Maybe I am wrong.
463
00:22:12,311 --> 00:22:16,047
I never want a guy to walk out,
and I'm always thinking that...
464
00:22:16,082 --> 00:22:17,949
we're probably not getting
this guy back in here.
465
00:22:21,554 --> 00:22:23,622
You OK?
466
00:22:23,656 --> 00:22:25,624
We just can't let him walk.
467
00:22:25,658 --> 00:22:27,425
We're just going to
have to cool our jets
468
00:22:27,460 --> 00:22:28,927
until the warrants come through.
469
00:22:31,097 --> 00:22:33,465
I'm getting nowhere with him and
I can't throw anything at him
470
00:22:33,500 --> 00:22:34,700
because I got no evidence.
471
00:22:34,734 --> 00:22:35,834
I was mad.
472
00:22:35,869 --> 00:22:37,703
I was mad because I
didn't get a confession.
473
00:22:40,507 --> 00:22:42,508
Probably my emotions got
a little bit of me there,
474
00:22:42,542 --> 00:22:44,476
but I thought, ah, screw it.
475
00:22:46,346 --> 00:22:50,182
I know you killed that guy,
and I'm coming to get you.
476
00:22:50,216 --> 00:22:51,750
It's just a matter of time.
477
00:23:03,096 --> 00:23:05,197
You want them to feel
out of their element,
478
00:23:05,231 --> 00:23:06,565
because then they start saying things
479
00:23:06,599 --> 00:23:08,834
they probably shouldn't say.
480
00:23:08,868 --> 00:23:10,836
You know, we'd been going
hard all night, I'm tired,
481
00:23:10,870 --> 00:23:13,238
but it's like, you just get a
second rush of adrenaline
482
00:23:13,273 --> 00:23:14,606
and you're pumped now.
483
00:23:25,018 --> 00:23:26,452
Hey!
484
00:23:28,221 --> 00:23:31,090
That's your car?
485
00:23:31,124 --> 00:23:32,691
Keys to the Mazda in there?
486
00:23:32,726 --> 00:23:34,026
Yeah, they're in it.
487
00:23:34,060 --> 00:23:35,728
Then I'm seizing your whole car.
488
00:23:35,762 --> 00:23:36,895
Well, you can't do that.
489
00:23:36,930 --> 00:23:39,698
Sure I can. The Mazda
keys are stolen property.
490
00:23:39,733 --> 00:23:41,533
But I told you I'd give them to you!
491
00:23:41,568 --> 00:23:43,202
Yeah, but possession of stolen property,
492
00:23:43,236 --> 00:23:46,572
probable cause for me to take
your car, and everything in it.
493
00:23:46,606 --> 00:23:47,973
Nah, you need a warrant for that!
494
00:23:48,007 --> 00:23:50,909
Ah, to look through it,
sure. But not to seize it.
495
00:23:50,944 --> 00:23:52,277
Give me your keys.
496
00:23:52,312 --> 00:23:54,513
And he turns and looks
at me and he goes, so,
497
00:23:54,547 --> 00:23:56,348
I just need to get something out of it.
498
00:23:56,382 --> 00:23:59,251
I says, you're getting fuck all
out of that car. I was mad.
499
00:24:10,730 --> 00:24:12,898
Detective Anstey heard
this and he thought
500
00:24:12,932 --> 00:24:15,567
I had to check my ego at the door.
501
00:24:15,602 --> 00:24:17,069
Detective Anstey was right.
502
00:24:17,103 --> 00:24:18,504
But, you know what?
503
00:24:18,538 --> 00:24:21,006
Police work is not rocket
science, it's common sense.
504
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,207
And it made sense to me
505
00:24:22,242 --> 00:24:24,343
that this Mark guy's involved somehow.
506
00:24:24,377 --> 00:24:26,979
I just don't know yet
what his involvement is.
507
00:24:38,925 --> 00:24:40,793
Edmonton Police.
508
00:24:40,827 --> 00:24:43,195
Go away.
509
00:24:43,229 --> 00:24:44,930
Mark isn't here.
510
00:24:44,964 --> 00:24:48,066
He told me not to talk to you.
511
00:24:48,101 --> 00:24:50,569
Well, don't you want to know
why two homicide detectives are
512
00:24:50,603 --> 00:24:55,507
at your door and your husband's
telling you not to talk?
513
00:24:59,245 --> 00:25:04,316
Ah, Detective Clark, Edmonton PD.
514
00:25:04,350 --> 00:25:06,051
Who's the little one?
515
00:25:06,085 --> 00:25:07,419
Chloe.
516
00:25:07,453 --> 00:25:10,522
Chloe. That's a, that's a pretty name.
517
00:25:10,557 --> 00:25:11,657
And you are?
518
00:25:11,691 --> 00:25:13,625
Jess.
519
00:25:13,660 --> 00:25:16,128
Now, Jess, I don't know
what Mark has told you,
520
00:25:16,162 --> 00:25:19,198
but he's involved in something big,
521
00:25:19,232 --> 00:25:22,467
and we're going to have to
seize your house, ma'am.
522
00:25:22,502 --> 00:25:25,637
What? I don't, I don't
understand what's going on.
523
00:25:25,672 --> 00:25:28,173
We're bringing in a team
to search your home.
524
00:25:28,208 --> 00:25:32,511
This detective will
stay until they arrive.
525
00:25:32,545 --> 00:25:35,347
Now, you can stay if you want,
but I would suggest that
526
00:25:35,381 --> 00:25:40,052
you and Chloe leave until the
police have done their job.
527
00:25:40,086 --> 00:25:42,387
Go inside, make sure
nothing gets touched.
528
00:25:42,422 --> 00:25:44,156
Let me know the minute Mark comes home.
529
00:25:44,190 --> 00:25:46,792
Whatever you do, don't
let him in the house.
530
00:25:49,362 --> 00:25:52,097
We, we are getting a search
warrant to search this house.
531
00:25:52,131 --> 00:25:57,236
In the meantime, Mark won't
be allowed to remove anything.
532
00:25:57,270 --> 00:26:00,072
We get a phone call
from Detective Anstey.
533
00:26:00,106 --> 00:26:02,274
He tells us we are getting
a warrant for the garage.
534
00:26:16,055 --> 00:26:17,589
What do you think?
535
00:26:19,993 --> 00:26:23,328
Maybe corn syrup.
536
00:26:23,363 --> 00:26:26,965
They mix it with red
dye to make fake blood.
537
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,935
Yeah, well, we better make
sure that none of it's real.
538
00:26:32,605 --> 00:26:36,108
Mark had told me that these were
the props from his movie set.
539
00:26:36,142 --> 00:26:39,411
It looked like a kill
room from the show Dexter.
540
00:26:39,445 --> 00:26:42,814
I mean, he built a table
just like Dexter had.
541
00:26:42,849 --> 00:26:46,551
And I'm thinking, what
the hell's going on here?
542
00:26:46,586 --> 00:26:47,619
BB gun.
543
00:26:47,654 --> 00:26:49,554
He had knives, meat cleavers.
544
00:26:49,589 --> 00:26:51,023
It was weird.
545
00:26:51,057 --> 00:26:54,159
You could see what looked
like blood and possibly skin,
546
00:26:54,193 --> 00:26:56,561
in the end of that knife.
547
00:26:56,596 --> 00:26:57,996
That real?
548
00:26:58,031 --> 00:27:00,265
Could be.
549
00:27:00,300 --> 00:27:03,268
This is going to take some time.
550
00:27:03,303 --> 00:27:05,570
It looks like someone's already
been doing some housekeeping.
551
00:27:09,575 --> 00:27:10,676
Clark.
552
00:27:22,822 --> 00:27:25,190
Things just aren't sitting right.
553
00:27:25,224 --> 00:27:26,725
It's not a good feeling.
554
00:27:26,759 --> 00:27:28,894
Something bad's happened to John.
555
00:27:33,566 --> 00:27:34,967
Hey.
556
00:27:38,371 --> 00:27:40,806
How you doing, Link?
557
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,274
What's this?
558
00:27:42,308 --> 00:27:44,810
That is a tooth I found in the garage.
559
00:27:44,844 --> 00:27:45,911
I'll run Altinger's dental records.
560
00:27:45,945 --> 00:27:47,479
No, no, Link. That fine, man.
561
00:27:47,513 --> 00:27:50,549
I know you have a lot of
cases, I can handle it.
562
00:27:50,583 --> 00:27:52,784
Uh, Bill, actually, I brought Link in.
563
00:27:52,819 --> 00:27:55,020
I thought we could use the help.
564
00:27:55,054 --> 00:27:56,722
Paul Link was brought in.
565
00:27:56,756 --> 00:27:59,758
Maybe there's something
I'm simply not seeing.
566
00:27:59,792 --> 00:28:02,361
I always tell guys, you've got
to check your ego at the door,
567
00:28:02,395 --> 00:28:04,196
and I had to do a big check there.
568
00:28:04,230 --> 00:28:07,966
Oh. OK.
569
00:28:08,001 --> 00:28:09,835
Did Anstey fill you in?
570
00:28:09,869 --> 00:28:11,603
Yeah. He did.
571
00:28:11,637 --> 00:28:13,105
And he told me his new theory.
572
00:28:13,139 --> 00:28:16,341
Well, look, a lot of people had
access to the garage, right?
573
00:28:16,376 --> 00:28:18,643
Yeah, the crew.
574
00:28:18,678 --> 00:28:21,413
Well, maybe they're
making a snuff film.
575
00:28:21,447 --> 00:28:23,515
- A snuff film?
- Yeah.
576
00:28:23,549 --> 00:28:25,951
Basically, a snuff film is a
film a person would make up
577
00:28:25,985 --> 00:28:27,152
of an actual murder.
578
00:28:27,186 --> 00:28:29,421
They're actually killing
someone and they film it.
579
00:28:29,455 --> 00:28:32,557
It's not fake, it's not
Hollywood, there's no acting,
580
00:28:32,592 --> 00:28:35,927
it's real life and they kill a person.
581
00:28:35,962 --> 00:28:40,866
They film it, and then they
sell the film for big dollars.
582
00:28:40,900 --> 00:28:43,635
Even found a guy online
offering a million dollars
583
00:28:43,669 --> 00:28:44,836
for the real thing.
584
00:28:44,871 --> 00:28:46,405
- A million dollars?
- Yeah.
585
00:28:46,439 --> 00:28:49,574
Great way for Mark and his
crew to raise a lot of money.
586
00:28:49,609 --> 00:28:52,677
We needed to talk to Mark, but
if we ask him to come down
587
00:28:52,712 --> 00:28:55,714
to the station, he's going
to just laugh at us.
588
00:28:55,748 --> 00:28:58,517
OK, well, what about
the guy on the internet
589
00:28:58,551 --> 00:29:01,119
that's offering the million
dollars, can we track him?
590
00:29:01,154 --> 00:29:02,721
Tech's trying.
591
00:29:02,755 --> 00:29:03,855
But it's not easy.
592
00:29:03,890 --> 00:29:06,958
Our best bet's to talk to the crew.
593
00:29:06,993 --> 00:29:08,393
Find out what they've been up to
594
00:29:08,428 --> 00:29:10,362
in this little garage
of horrors of theirs.
595
00:29:12,298 --> 00:29:13,832
We started with Joss Hnatiuk.
596
00:29:13,866 --> 00:29:17,436
He's the one who had the
red Mazda that Mark bought.
597
00:29:17,470 --> 00:29:19,771
Joss was the helper guy on the set
598
00:29:19,806 --> 00:29:21,673
when they were filming
their little movies.
599
00:29:21,707 --> 00:29:22,841
Hey!
600
00:29:22,875 --> 00:29:24,709
What are you doing?
601
00:29:26,779 --> 00:29:29,681
Is this your car?
602
00:29:29,715 --> 00:29:33,652
I hear there's a lot of money
to be made for snuff films.
603
00:29:33,686 --> 00:29:35,153
Uh, I wouldn't know.
604
00:29:35,188 --> 00:29:36,488
I've never seen one.
605
00:29:36,522 --> 00:29:40,525
You ever wonder how Mark
was paying for his movies?
606
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,661
He's a talented guy.
607
00:29:42,695 --> 00:29:45,564
Knows producers in Hollywood. He...
608
00:29:45,598 --> 00:29:47,365
impresses a lot of people.
609
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,335
He told me once he got thirty
grand from some accountant.
610
00:29:50,369 --> 00:29:52,871
Promised him he'd make
a million dollars.
611
00:29:52,905 --> 00:29:55,373
Wow, that's quite a promise.
612
00:29:55,408 --> 00:29:57,509
Yeah. People trust Mark.
613
00:29:57,543 --> 00:29:59,344
So it would seem.
614
00:30:05,985 --> 00:30:07,252
Ah!
615
00:30:09,922 --> 00:30:12,691
Did you work with Mark on the last movie
616
00:30:12,725 --> 00:30:14,726
he shot in his garage?
617
00:30:15,661 --> 00:30:17,295
What was it about?
618
00:30:17,330 --> 00:30:18,463
A killer.
619
00:30:18,498 --> 00:30:20,198
What kind of killer?
620
00:30:20,233 --> 00:30:23,635
One who uses a dating service to
lure some guy into his garage,
621
00:30:23,669 --> 00:30:25,504
and then he... kills him.
622
00:30:26,405 --> 00:30:28,106
How would I see this movie?
623
00:30:54,429 --> 00:30:56,998
I really thought that
we had a snuff film.
624
00:30:57,032 --> 00:30:59,133
They do exist.
625
00:30:59,168 --> 00:31:02,236
Guys like Luka Magnotta, right?
626
00:31:02,271 --> 00:31:06,073
He sold a film of him killing that guy.
627
00:31:06,108 --> 00:31:08,176
Maybe this is the piece
we're looking for
628
00:31:08,210 --> 00:31:10,411
where they've actually
filmed the murder of John.
629
00:31:19,154 --> 00:31:21,222
This is not a snuff film.
630
00:31:22,925 --> 00:31:24,592
And... cut.
631
00:31:24,626 --> 00:31:27,995
Well, that was awesome, guys.
632
00:31:28,030 --> 00:31:29,730
Um, you OK?
633
00:31:34,069 --> 00:31:36,938
I've got to take this. Excuse me.
634
00:31:36,972 --> 00:31:40,141
When did Altinger disappear?
635
00:31:40,175 --> 00:31:42,977
October 10th.
636
00:31:43,011 --> 00:31:44,946
This was filmed two weeks
before John went missing.
637
00:31:46,715 --> 00:31:48,382
This is just one memory card.
638
00:31:48,417 --> 00:31:50,718
We need to see the rest of the footage.
639
00:31:50,752 --> 00:31:51,886
It's at his house.
640
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,287
We have a detective securing the home,
641
00:31:53,322 --> 00:31:54,555
but I can't get in until...
642
00:31:54,590 --> 00:31:55,790
You can get in.
643
00:31:55,824 --> 00:31:57,758
We just got clearance for
warrants on the house
644
00:31:57,793 --> 00:31:58,993
and the car.
645
00:31:59,027 --> 00:32:01,062
I'm going to go pick them up now.
646
00:32:01,096 --> 00:32:02,597
Thanks, Paul.
647
00:32:02,631 --> 00:32:05,666
When we searched Mark's
house, I told them,
648
00:32:05,701 --> 00:32:08,970
make sure you take every hard
drive, every CD, every disk,
649
00:32:09,004 --> 00:32:10,938
anything that can store data.
650
00:32:10,973 --> 00:32:12,340
Make sure we seize it all.
651
00:32:12,374 --> 00:32:13,941
Because I truly was of the belief
652
00:32:13,976 --> 00:32:16,344
that this was a snuff film.
653
00:32:39,234 --> 00:32:41,636
We went through there and we
found all kinds of hard drives.
654
00:32:41,670 --> 00:32:43,204
There were lots of DVDs.
655
00:32:43,238 --> 00:32:45,773
There was a real affinity
to the show Dexter.
656
00:32:45,807 --> 00:32:47,642
He had a lot of books on Dexter.
657
00:32:47,676 --> 00:32:51,078
He had the DVDs of each season.
658
00:32:51,113 --> 00:32:55,683
I'm thinking to myself, we
see all this violence on TV,
659
00:32:55,717 --> 00:32:58,519
it affects people in different ways.
660
00:32:58,553 --> 00:33:00,187
There's no doubt it affects people.
661
00:33:04,226 --> 00:33:08,763
Everything was adding up, but it
still wasn't making any sense.
662
00:33:08,797 --> 00:33:11,265
And then we pulled the
laptop from his car.
663
00:33:11,300 --> 00:33:13,668
And you wouldn't believe what we found.
664
00:33:13,702 --> 00:33:16,137
It's a document that he tried to erase.
665
00:33:16,171 --> 00:33:18,572
It's called "S.K. Confessions." Here.
666
00:33:21,143 --> 00:33:23,344
"This is the story of my progression
667
00:33:23,378 --> 00:33:26,347
into becoming a serial killer..."
668
00:33:26,381 --> 00:33:29,483
The document was detailed
and disturbing.
669
00:33:29,518 --> 00:33:33,988
It definitely seemed like a
confession to Altinger's murder.
670
00:33:34,022 --> 00:33:37,425
"A double detached garage for
rent in the south of the city,
671
00:33:37,459 --> 00:33:41,295
with a house occupied by tenants
who couldn't even read English."
672
00:33:41,330 --> 00:33:43,331
- This is his garage.
- Yeah, yeah.
673
00:33:43,365 --> 00:33:46,500
"Everything I decided,
would take place here."
674
00:33:46,535 --> 00:33:47,735
He talked about everything.
675
00:33:47,769 --> 00:33:50,171
Why he lured the victim,
how he lured him.
676
00:33:50,205 --> 00:33:51,973
He talked about the site.
677
00:33:52,007 --> 00:33:55,543
He talked about using the female
profile, where he got it from.
678
00:33:55,577 --> 00:33:57,111
Everything.
679
00:33:59,114 --> 00:34:01,515
This is a diary.
680
00:34:01,550 --> 00:34:03,884
I mean, all he did was
change the names a little.
681
00:34:03,919 --> 00:34:05,953
I mean, he calls his wife Jess, Tess
682
00:34:05,988 --> 00:34:07,788
and his daughter Chloe, Zoe.
683
00:34:07,823 --> 00:34:10,291
Everything else is real.
684
00:34:10,325 --> 00:34:14,061
It goes into explicit detail and
I'm looking at this document,
685
00:34:14,096 --> 00:34:15,529
reading it, and I remember thinking,
686
00:34:15,564 --> 00:34:17,898
'Wow, this thing is true!'
687
00:34:17,933 --> 00:34:21,502
"The room filled with
the echo of the pipe
688
00:34:21,536 --> 00:34:24,538
crashing into the back of his skull.
689
00:34:24,573 --> 00:34:27,775
He hit the floor but
was still conscious.
690
00:34:27,809 --> 00:34:30,845
I pulled my hunting
knife from its sheath,
691
00:34:30,879 --> 00:34:33,914
and watching the shock on
his face as he saw the blade...
692
00:34:36,084 --> 00:34:37,752
I thrust it into his gut."
693
00:34:41,123 --> 00:34:43,024
Just a total lack of empathy.
694
00:34:43,058 --> 00:34:46,293
I mean, he talks about eating
a bag of chips, you know,
695
00:34:46,328 --> 00:34:50,564
whistling, singing songs while
he's dismembering Johnny.
696
00:34:50,599 --> 00:34:52,600
This, this...
697
00:34:52,634 --> 00:34:55,269
this is sick stuff, I mean.
698
00:34:58,340 --> 00:35:00,808
Anstey, this...
699
00:35:00,842 --> 00:35:03,377
is a full confession.
700
00:35:03,412 --> 00:35:06,614
But in that document, it also
states there was a first victim.
701
00:35:06,648 --> 00:35:08,249
And we're like, whoa!
702
00:35:08,283 --> 00:35:09,884
We're shocked!
703
00:35:09,918 --> 00:35:12,486
Someone that he attacked
and then got away.
704
00:35:14,289 --> 00:35:16,690
Why hasn't anyone come forward?
705
00:35:16,725 --> 00:35:19,994
If the other victim was out
there, we needed to find him.
706
00:35:25,982 --> 00:35:28,083
We've got this document,
S.K. Confessions,
707
00:35:28,118 --> 00:35:29,985
it details the whole murder.
708
00:35:30,020 --> 00:35:33,389
It described luring a
guy on the internet.
709
00:35:33,423 --> 00:35:35,691
Hitting him over the
head with the metal pipe.
710
00:35:35,725 --> 00:35:37,493
Cutting him up.
711
00:35:37,527 --> 00:35:41,163
Driving around with the
body parts in his car.
712
00:35:41,198 --> 00:35:43,532
This guy was a pathological liar.
713
00:35:43,567 --> 00:35:46,469
He's going to say that's
a work of fiction.
714
00:35:46,503 --> 00:35:49,772
But we knew there was another
victim out there who got away.
715
00:35:49,806 --> 00:35:52,741
Finding that victim was huge
to really proving that
716
00:35:52,776 --> 00:35:55,377
that S.K. Confessions document was true.
717
00:35:55,412 --> 00:35:57,613
So we decided to go to the news media.
718
00:35:57,647 --> 00:35:59,515
Police say the victim, John Altinger,
719
00:35:59,549 --> 00:36:01,517
was lured on a dating
website with the promise
720
00:36:01,551 --> 00:36:03,819
of meeting a beautiful woman.
721
00:36:03,854 --> 00:36:07,156
Instead, police theorize
he was met by his killer.
722
00:36:07,190 --> 00:36:09,592
And police are looking for
another would-be victim
723
00:36:09,626 --> 00:36:11,026
who escaped.
724
00:36:11,061 --> 00:36:13,662
The unknown man went to the
same garage to meet a woman,
725
00:36:13,697 --> 00:36:17,066
but was confronted by
a man in a hockey mask.
726
00:36:17,100 --> 00:36:20,436
Detective Anstey went in the
media and showed the mask,
727
00:36:20,470 --> 00:36:22,671
and the very next morning,
I got a phone call from
728
00:36:22,706 --> 00:36:27,676
Gilles Tetreault, and uh, he
came down to the station.
729
00:36:27,711 --> 00:36:29,411
She was a bit forward.
730
00:36:29,446 --> 00:36:31,580
Always asking if I wanted to meet.
731
00:36:31,615 --> 00:36:34,550
Then she gave me directions
instead of an address.
732
00:36:34,584 --> 00:36:37,920
Uh, I thought that was odd, but
I still wanted to meet her.
733
00:36:37,954 --> 00:36:39,488
It was, without a doubt,
734
00:36:39,523 --> 00:36:43,192
the most riveting witness
interview I've had in my career.
735
00:36:44,995 --> 00:36:48,531
The story was exactly the
same as John Altinger.
736
00:36:48,565 --> 00:36:49,698
He met a girl online.
737
00:36:51,735 --> 00:36:53,702
So when I got out of the car,
738
00:36:53,737 --> 00:36:55,471
I should have been
scoping the place first,
739
00:36:55,505 --> 00:36:58,574
but I was rushing,
thinking that I was late
740
00:36:58,608 --> 00:37:00,876
and she was going to be upset.
741
00:37:05,048 --> 00:37:07,750
And out of nowhere, this
guys just tasers me.
742
00:37:07,784 --> 00:37:08,918
Agh!
743
00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:14,523
He grabs me and he pulls
me through the side door.
744
00:37:21,331 --> 00:37:22,731
I'm thinking he's going to kill me.
745
00:37:22,766 --> 00:37:23,933
Don't move.
746
00:37:26,403 --> 00:37:28,704
Just let me go, OK? You
can take whatever you want,
747
00:37:28,738 --> 00:37:31,106
Shut up! you can take my wallet!
748
00:37:31,141 --> 00:37:33,943
And then I tell myself,
no, not like this.
749
00:37:38,949 --> 00:37:40,449
I was so weak I couldn't run.
750
00:37:41,952 --> 00:37:43,319
Help!
751
00:37:43,353 --> 00:37:47,790
And I knew, if he gets me back
inside, I'm as good as dead.
752
00:37:47,824 --> 00:37:49,959
When I got home...
753
00:37:49,993 --> 00:37:55,731
I went on the dating site,
but the profile, the messages,
754
00:37:55,765 --> 00:37:56,732
they were gone.
755
00:37:56,766 --> 00:37:58,100
Just vanished.
756
00:38:00,303 --> 00:38:04,573
I had read that S.K. Confessions
document multiple times by now.
757
00:38:04,608 --> 00:38:07,076
I knew that document inside and out.
758
00:38:07,110 --> 00:38:12,548
Everything Gilles told
me was exactly the same.
759
00:38:12,582 --> 00:38:15,484
So what took you so
long to come forward?
760
00:38:18,755 --> 00:38:20,522
I was scared.
761
00:38:22,559 --> 00:38:24,426
Ashamed.
762
00:38:24,461 --> 00:38:27,229
To think that I was attacked in
the same way, at the same place,
763
00:38:27,263 --> 00:38:29,331
just one week before the missing man.
764
00:38:29,366 --> 00:38:30,966
And...
765
00:38:31,001 --> 00:38:33,002
that'll haunt me to the day I die.
766
00:38:35,872 --> 00:38:38,774
I could have done something.
767
00:38:38,808 --> 00:38:40,042
I should have done something.
768
00:38:45,982 --> 00:38:48,283
Behind the police tape and garage doors,
769
00:38:48,318 --> 00:38:51,787
a chilling scene of what
could be life imitating art.
770
00:38:51,821 --> 00:38:54,390
A homicide police say
was literally scripted,
771
00:38:54,424 --> 00:38:56,725
then carried out by
an Edmonton filmmaker.
772
00:38:56,726 --> 00:38:58,660
Mark Twitchell's real life-diary,
773
00:38:58,694 --> 00:39:01,329
detailing his descent
into the world of murder.
774
00:39:01,363 --> 00:39:03,731
Facebook page shows him to be a huge fan
775
00:39:03,766 --> 00:39:05,567
of the television show Dexter.
776
00:39:05,601 --> 00:39:07,569
He bears an eerie physical resemblance
777
00:39:07,603 --> 00:39:09,203
to the main character...
778
00:39:09,238 --> 00:39:10,605
...where the gruesome writings
779
00:39:10,639 --> 00:39:13,575
of how a man was lured to
a garage to meet a date.
780
00:39:13,609 --> 00:39:15,577
We've now arrested him
for first degree murder.
781
00:39:15,611 --> 00:39:17,779
So preplanned meditated murder.
782
00:39:17,813 --> 00:39:19,247
And we've got a mountain of evidence.
783
00:39:19,281 --> 00:39:21,883
Everything's tested
positive for Johnny's blood.
784
00:39:21,917 --> 00:39:23,918
A strong, strong case.
785
00:39:23,953 --> 00:39:26,654
We found John's blood everywhere.
786
00:39:26,689 --> 00:39:31,826
In your garage, both cars,
your house, your clothes.
787
00:39:31,860 --> 00:39:34,062
The evidence is overwhelming.
788
00:39:34,096 --> 00:39:37,699
And we put away guys with five
percent of what we have on you,
789
00:39:37,733 --> 00:39:42,136
so thanks for making it easy for us.
790
00:39:42,171 --> 00:39:44,572
We realized from the
S.K. Confessions document,
791
00:39:44,607 --> 00:39:46,741
he got rid of the body down a sewer
792
00:39:46,775 --> 00:39:49,477
in an eastern suburb of Edmonton.
793
00:39:49,511 --> 00:39:52,447
So I thought, we'll put him
in the car, we'll film him.
794
00:39:52,481 --> 00:39:54,182
Let's take him for a drive
795
00:39:54,216 --> 00:39:56,484
to see if he'll point
out the body to us.
796
00:40:00,022 --> 00:40:02,423
We know what you did with Altinger.
797
00:40:02,458 --> 00:40:06,194
We can't do anything about that,
but you can do the right thing.
798
00:40:06,228 --> 00:40:09,197
Tell us where you dumped the body.
799
00:40:09,231 --> 00:40:10,898
We weren't going to
play on his emotions,
800
00:40:10,933 --> 00:40:13,034
it wasn't going to work.
801
00:40:13,068 --> 00:40:14,969
People like Mark don't care.
802
00:40:18,607 --> 00:40:20,642
Which sewer was it, Mark?
803
00:40:20,676 --> 00:40:22,276
You can end this now.
804
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:26,714
He wouldn't give us anything.
805
00:40:26,749 --> 00:40:28,683
He wouldn't give up the body.
806
00:40:40,829 --> 00:40:46,067
Eighteen months since the
murder and out of the blue,
807
00:40:46,101 --> 00:40:48,002
we get a phone call to our office
808
00:40:48,037 --> 00:40:50,304
from Mark Twitchell's lawyer.
809
00:40:50,339 --> 00:40:53,274
It was two blocks from
Twitchell's parents' home,
810
00:40:53,308 --> 00:40:55,276
and half a block from a section of sewer
811
00:40:55,310 --> 00:40:58,613
searched exhaustively early
in the investigation.
812
00:40:58,647 --> 00:40:59,881
It's been the worst.
813
00:41:01,250 --> 00:41:02,650
It's been the worst.
814
00:41:02,685 --> 00:41:04,786
There's nothing else can be said.
815
00:41:04,820 --> 00:41:07,955
There'll never be closure, but
it goes on to the next step,
816
00:41:07,990 --> 00:41:14,862
I think, to start to heal
if, if that's possible.
817
00:41:14,897 --> 00:41:17,999
I truly think to this day that
Mark Twitchell wanted to know
818
00:41:18,033 --> 00:41:20,535
what it was like to kill someone.
819
00:41:20,569 --> 00:41:24,739
He had his mind made up
long before he saw Dexter.
820
00:41:24,773 --> 00:41:27,175
It kind of overshadowed
the whole incident,
821
00:41:27,209 --> 00:41:28,609
and it shouldn't have.
822
00:41:33,415 --> 00:41:36,918
John Altinger, he was a good guy.
823
00:41:36,952 --> 00:41:39,353
I've tried my best not
to let it affect me,
824
00:41:39,388 --> 00:41:41,989
but I've seen the other side.
825
00:41:42,024 --> 00:41:44,358
And when you see that other
side, you do feel sorry,
826
00:41:44,393 --> 00:41:46,394
you have more empathy for
these victims' families
827
00:41:46,428 --> 00:41:48,930
and see what it can do to them.
It tears them apart.
828
00:41:48,964 --> 00:41:55,279
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