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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,001 --> 00:00:02,701 In today's age, with social media, 2 00:00:02,736 --> 00:00:04,737 people meet people online. 3 00:00:18,084 --> 00:00:19,551 It's not necessarily a bad thing, 4 00:00:19,586 --> 00:00:22,354 but you definitely have to take more precautions. 5 00:00:22,389 --> 00:00:24,390 Everybody can lie on the internet. 6 00:00:33,366 --> 00:00:35,167 But when you start meeting someone in person 7 00:00:35,201 --> 00:00:37,436 after meeting them on social dating sites and that, 8 00:00:37,470 --> 00:00:39,004 you have to pay attention 9 00:00:39,039 --> 00:00:41,140 to what your senses are telling you. 10 00:01:05,965 --> 00:01:08,967 Almost every single day, we hear somebody's got lured in, 11 00:01:09,002 --> 00:01:11,437 been sexually assaulted, something's gone on. 12 00:01:12,472 --> 00:01:13,906 Ah! 13 00:01:41,968 --> 00:01:49,210 - Sync and corrections by ByDem - - www.addic7ed.com - 14 00:01:51,678 --> 00:01:53,445 Police officer testified... 15 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,447 Shows him to be a huge fan 16 00:01:55,482 --> 00:01:56,982 of the television show, Dexter. 17 00:01:57,016 --> 00:01:59,585 Edmonton is like any big city in this country. 18 00:01:59,619 --> 00:02:03,689 There's a lot of violent crime, but this case was unique. 19 00:02:03,723 --> 00:02:06,258 Reporters flew into Edmonton from all over the world 20 00:02:06,292 --> 00:02:08,527 to get a look at the Dexter Killer. 21 00:02:08,561 --> 00:02:11,296 The lead role in a trial 22 00:02:11,331 --> 00:02:13,565 that's expected to generate international media attention. 23 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,034 The call came in on a Sunday afternoon. 24 00:02:16,069 --> 00:02:17,870 Unless we've got some special plans, 25 00:02:17,904 --> 00:02:20,706 I'm just sitting on the couch watching football. 26 00:02:20,740 --> 00:02:23,108 Anstey, why the hell are you calling me in? 27 00:02:23,143 --> 00:02:25,010 This is a missing person's case. 28 00:02:25,044 --> 00:02:26,812 It wasn't my call. 29 00:02:26,846 --> 00:02:28,747 Murph suspects the worst on this one. 30 00:02:28,782 --> 00:02:30,983 He wanted somebody from homicide to take a look at it. 31 00:02:31,017 --> 00:02:33,519 Besides, look, there's something funny stuff with the case. 32 00:02:33,553 --> 00:02:34,853 You know, he may be right. 33 00:02:34,888 --> 00:02:36,955 We may have a murder on our hands. Come on. 34 00:02:36,990 --> 00:02:38,657 Right away I'm thinking, missing what? 35 00:02:38,691 --> 00:02:40,125 Who, who's calling us out? 36 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:41,727 Because if it's some young guy, I'm thinking, 37 00:02:41,761 --> 00:02:43,562 what does this guy know, you know? 38 00:02:43,596 --> 00:02:45,330 So, I'm a little hesitant at the start. 39 00:02:45,365 --> 00:02:48,473 Because homicide doesn't go out to missing person cases. 40 00:02:48,474 --> 00:02:51,942 His name is John Brian Altinger, 38 years old. 41 00:02:51,977 --> 00:02:53,511 Oil field pipe inspector. 42 00:02:53,545 --> 00:02:55,713 Born here, moved to BC as a teenager, 43 00:02:55,747 --> 00:02:57,715 then back to Edmonton a few years ago. 44 00:02:57,749 --> 00:03:00,217 He had last been seen on October 10th which was, you know, 45 00:03:00,252 --> 00:03:03,521 nine days before we were called in from homicide. 46 00:03:03,555 --> 00:03:06,524 The police had started the investigation two days before, 47 00:03:06,558 --> 00:03:07,992 on the Friday night. 48 00:03:08,026 --> 00:03:09,894 His friend, Dale Smith, called it in 49 00:03:09,928 --> 00:03:12,463 after getting a suspicious e-mail from John. 50 00:03:12,497 --> 00:03:14,698 A week ago, John goes out on a date with Jen, 51 00:03:14,733 --> 00:03:16,867 a girl he met on a dating website. 52 00:03:16,902 --> 00:03:18,903 Three days later, Smith gets an e-mail 53 00:03:18,937 --> 00:03:21,505 saying John's decided to take off for Costa Rica... 54 00:03:21,540 --> 00:03:22,706 with Jen. 55 00:03:30,348 --> 00:03:33,684 "Hey there, I've met an extraordinary woman named Jen 56 00:03:33,718 --> 00:03:37,955 who has offered to take me on a nice long tropical vacation. 57 00:03:37,989 --> 00:03:40,191 We'll be staying at her winter home in Costa Rica, 58 00:03:40,225 --> 00:03:42,092 phone number to follow soon. 59 00:03:42,127 --> 00:03:44,395 I won't be back in town until December 10th, 60 00:03:44,429 --> 00:03:47,898 but I will be checking my e-mail periodically. 61 00:03:47,933 --> 00:03:51,001 See you around the holidays. Johnny." 62 00:03:51,036 --> 00:03:52,836 Well, this seems to me that we should be 63 00:03:52,871 --> 00:03:55,873 congratulating Johnny, not looking for him. 64 00:03:55,907 --> 00:03:58,275 I don't know this guy, I don't know what his lifestyle's like. 65 00:03:58,310 --> 00:03:59,476 I don't know any of that. 66 00:03:59,511 --> 00:04:01,011 So I'm thinking maybe it is possible. 67 00:04:01,046 --> 00:04:04,381 Maybe he did take off with this, this girl to, to Costa Rica. 68 00:04:04,416 --> 00:04:05,816 I mean, that's a possibility. 69 00:04:05,850 --> 00:04:07,284 So I'm asking 'em questions. 70 00:04:07,319 --> 00:04:08,786 You know, have you checked the airports? 71 00:04:08,820 --> 00:04:11,222 Have you gone through all those parking lots and Park 'N Rides 72 00:04:11,256 --> 00:04:13,591 looking for his vehicle? 73 00:04:13,625 --> 00:04:16,093 That's his car. And yes, we did a full grid search 74 00:04:16,127 --> 00:04:17,328 looking for it. Nothing. 75 00:04:20,365 --> 00:04:21,832 What about his computer? 76 00:04:21,866 --> 00:04:24,535 According to Dale Smith, it's missing. 77 00:04:24,569 --> 00:04:27,204 How would Dale Smith know that? 78 00:04:27,239 --> 00:04:29,974 He broke into his apartment, he was checking up on him. 79 00:04:30,008 --> 00:04:33,310 Well. Uh, what about this girl he dated, this Jen? 80 00:04:33,345 --> 00:04:35,417 Couldn't find her profile on the dating site. 81 00:04:35,418 --> 00:04:37,578 - Ah. - All we have are the directions 82 00:04:37,579 --> 00:04:40,017 she left for John for where to meet for their date. 83 00:04:40,051 --> 00:04:43,020 Johnny Altinger on Friday, October 10th, 84 00:04:43,054 --> 00:04:45,055 was going to meet a girl he met online 85 00:04:45,090 --> 00:04:47,358 on one of the dating sites. 86 00:04:47,392 --> 00:04:49,627 So, he went to meet this girl, 87 00:04:49,661 --> 00:04:51,829 but he had e-mailed one of his buddies, 88 00:04:51,863 --> 00:04:53,864 one of his close friends, 89 00:04:53,898 --> 00:04:55,432 the location of where he was going. 90 00:04:55,467 --> 00:04:59,436 And what was odd was, it was directions to a garage. 91 00:04:59,471 --> 00:05:00,871 The guy who rents the place 92 00:05:00,905 --> 00:05:02,940 let us in to have a quick look. 93 00:05:02,974 --> 00:05:04,842 We did bring him in for an interview. 94 00:05:04,876 --> 00:05:08,479 Ok, well, let's uh, check out this interview. 95 00:05:08,513 --> 00:05:10,748 So I thought, I'll go watch the interview of this guy 96 00:05:10,782 --> 00:05:12,449 and see what I think. 97 00:05:12,484 --> 00:05:14,685 I'm looking for signs of deception. 98 00:05:14,719 --> 00:05:15,886 Is he nervous? 99 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,522 All that type of stuff. 100 00:05:18,556 --> 00:05:20,891 I've been renting the garage for a couple of weeks now. 101 00:05:20,925 --> 00:05:22,860 It's a great little movie studio, actually. 102 00:05:22,894 --> 00:05:24,261 Movie studio? 103 00:05:24,296 --> 00:05:25,596 The guy's a local filmmaker. 104 00:05:25,630 --> 00:05:28,399 Low budget sci-fi, horror, stuff like that. 105 00:05:28,433 --> 00:05:30,100 So let me get this straight, 106 00:05:30,135 --> 00:05:33,270 the guy that's renting my garage was going on a date? 107 00:05:33,305 --> 00:05:34,872 And now he's missing? 108 00:05:34,906 --> 00:05:36,807 It's funny, because when I let you guys in, 109 00:05:36,841 --> 00:05:38,409 I did notice the lock was tampered with. 110 00:05:38,443 --> 00:05:40,044 But I looked around and nothing was missing. 111 00:05:40,078 --> 00:05:41,345 You guys looked in the garage? 112 00:05:41,379 --> 00:05:44,148 Yeah. It's like he said, a little movie set. 113 00:05:44,182 --> 00:05:46,850 He wasn't giving short answers, he was open, you know, 114 00:05:46,885 --> 00:05:49,420 he's sitting on his chair, he's relaxed. 115 00:05:49,454 --> 00:05:51,722 This Mark guy interviewed really well. 116 00:05:51,756 --> 00:05:54,658 It looks to me like he's not involved in this. 117 00:05:54,693 --> 00:05:56,560 Well, I've seen all I need to see, 118 00:05:56,594 --> 00:05:59,196 this guy has nothing to do with this case. 119 00:05:59,230 --> 00:06:00,564 Have you checked John's apartment? 120 00:06:00,598 --> 00:06:03,100 I'll get Ident on it and see what they can dig up. 121 00:06:04,803 --> 00:06:08,472 I'm going to head to the garage and see if anything was missed. 122 00:06:08,506 --> 00:06:09,973 The garage is the key. 123 00:06:10,008 --> 00:06:13,811 We believe that he did go to that garage on October the 10th. 124 00:06:13,845 --> 00:06:15,979 But, we don't know that for sure. 125 00:06:16,014 --> 00:06:18,048 So I wanted to go in and take a look. 126 00:06:26,191 --> 00:06:28,359 It's in the southeast side of the city, 127 00:06:28,393 --> 00:06:32,029 in a residential community that's middle class, Mill Woods. 128 00:06:32,063 --> 00:06:34,798 Just an average community you find in any city. 129 00:06:42,173 --> 00:06:43,273 Hi there. 130 00:06:43,308 --> 00:06:45,008 I'm uh, looking for Jen? 131 00:06:45,043 --> 00:06:46,643 Eh, no, no. No Jen here. 132 00:06:46,678 --> 00:06:49,079 There was a Mexican man living in the house. 133 00:06:49,114 --> 00:06:51,248 The house and garage were rented separately. 134 00:06:51,282 --> 00:06:54,485 Detective Clark, Edmonton Police. 135 00:06:54,519 --> 00:06:56,487 Do you know a Jen? Any Jen? 136 00:06:58,289 --> 00:07:00,824 And how about this guy? Have you ever seen him? 137 00:07:00,859 --> 00:07:03,060 They never heard of this guy. 138 00:07:03,094 --> 00:07:06,130 There was no girl named Jen living there, nothing. 139 00:07:06,164 --> 00:07:08,799 It was weird. It was weird. 140 00:07:08,833 --> 00:07:11,902 Have you noticed any strange activity back there lately? 141 00:07:11,936 --> 00:07:14,405 Eh, si, uh, muchas luces... 142 00:07:14,439 --> 00:07:15,839 um, many voices. 143 00:07:15,874 --> 00:07:18,642 Filman peliculas aca, you know, movies? 144 00:07:20,645 --> 00:07:21,812 Well, thank you. 145 00:07:37,595 --> 00:07:40,063 Basically, the garage was nothing out of the ordinary. 146 00:07:40,098 --> 00:07:42,433 Police patrol members had already been in that garage 147 00:07:42,467 --> 00:07:44,134 the night before. 148 00:07:44,169 --> 00:07:46,603 Mark had let them in, they had a quick look around. 149 00:07:46,638 --> 00:07:48,338 Didn't see anything out of the ordinary. 150 00:07:51,309 --> 00:07:53,444 But, they have a different mindset. 151 00:07:53,478 --> 00:07:56,213 I always say as a homicide investigator, 152 00:07:56,247 --> 00:07:58,081 we're preparing this case for court. 153 00:07:58,116 --> 00:08:00,350 You have to do everything right, there's no cutting corners. 154 00:08:06,157 --> 00:08:08,525 Even though it belonged to this Mark guy, we thought, 155 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,994 let's just get a search warrant, this is the last place we 156 00:08:11,029 --> 00:08:12,896 believe this guy has been seen. 157 00:08:17,635 --> 00:08:19,169 Anstey. 158 00:08:19,204 --> 00:08:21,271 Look, I'm going to need to get into this garage. 159 00:08:23,074 --> 00:08:25,042 While we waited for the warrant to come through, 160 00:08:25,076 --> 00:08:28,178 my team and I visited Altinger's apartment 161 00:08:28,213 --> 00:08:30,514 to see if anything came up that looked unusual. 162 00:08:32,417 --> 00:08:33,717 Hey, Nance! 163 00:08:33,751 --> 00:08:35,419 Hey! 164 00:08:35,453 --> 00:08:36,954 John's place was a mess. 165 00:08:36,988 --> 00:08:39,056 It was, you know, it wasn't tidy, 166 00:08:39,090 --> 00:08:41,525 it was a bachelor pad and he wasn't too worried about, 167 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,227 you know, impressing anybody. 168 00:08:43,261 --> 00:08:45,195 Wow! 169 00:08:45,230 --> 00:08:48,065 I really love what you've done with the place. 170 00:08:49,300 --> 00:08:50,801 Very funny. 171 00:08:50,835 --> 00:08:52,436 Could be ransacked. 172 00:08:52,470 --> 00:08:55,639 Clearly, you've never lived with teenage boys. 173 00:08:55,673 --> 00:08:57,574 I'm serious. 174 00:08:59,377 --> 00:09:02,112 That patio door over there was used as a point of entry. 175 00:09:04,115 --> 00:09:05,816 And the computer's missing. 176 00:09:09,587 --> 00:09:12,389 Kind of hard to travel without luggage, don't you think? 177 00:09:20,598 --> 00:09:22,299 There's one thing for sure. 178 00:09:22,333 --> 00:09:23,867 Hey, Nancy. 179 00:09:23,902 --> 00:09:25,402 You're definitely not leaving the country 180 00:09:25,436 --> 00:09:28,839 in today's day and age without a valid passport. 181 00:09:28,873 --> 00:09:30,641 That was a telltale sign. 182 00:09:30,675 --> 00:09:32,876 So we knew he hadn't left the country without that. 183 00:09:35,146 --> 00:09:37,948 All I know is that the minute I got that e-mail saying he was 184 00:09:37,982 --> 00:09:40,450 going to Costa Rica, I knew something was wrong. 185 00:09:40,485 --> 00:09:42,886 Dale Smith was very suspicious. 186 00:09:42,921 --> 00:09:44,755 Johnny was a good friend of his. 187 00:09:44,789 --> 00:09:48,025 Dale really thought that something happened to Johnny. 188 00:09:48,059 --> 00:09:49,893 He wanted to get to the bottom of it, 189 00:09:49,928 --> 00:09:52,129 he wanted to help find his friend. 190 00:09:52,163 --> 00:09:53,964 Did John have any enemies? 191 00:09:53,998 --> 00:09:55,532 Anyone who'd want to hurt him? 192 00:09:55,567 --> 00:09:58,802 No way. No, John's a good dude. 193 00:09:58,836 --> 00:10:00,938 He really cares about people. 194 00:10:00,972 --> 00:10:06,643 He loves paintball and motorcycles, and computers. 195 00:10:06,678 --> 00:10:08,545 He even convinced me to buy my first computer. 196 00:10:08,580 --> 00:10:10,614 Ever use it for internet dating? 197 00:10:10,648 --> 00:10:12,849 Me? No, no-no. 198 00:10:12,884 --> 00:10:14,284 That's John's thing. 199 00:10:14,319 --> 00:10:16,553 He's got a bunch of friends around that stuff. 200 00:10:16,588 --> 00:10:19,089 They swap stories of different dates they've been on. 201 00:10:19,123 --> 00:10:21,124 But not me. No, no. Can't trust it. 202 00:10:21,159 --> 00:10:22,659 Mm-hm. 203 00:10:22,694 --> 00:10:25,228 Did he ever tell you any stories? 204 00:10:25,263 --> 00:10:27,030 Not usually. 205 00:10:27,065 --> 00:10:30,467 Well, then why would he decide to call you 206 00:10:30,501 --> 00:10:33,370 right before his date with Jen? 207 00:10:33,404 --> 00:10:35,606 He thought there was something off about her. 208 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:40,544 Like, she was very forward, but wouldn't give her phone number. 209 00:10:40,578 --> 00:10:42,212 He was very excited to meet her, though. 210 00:10:42,246 --> 00:10:45,549 Excited enough to give you directions before he went. 211 00:10:45,583 --> 00:10:47,918 Well, she gave him directions instead of an address. 212 00:10:47,952 --> 00:10:50,821 He thought it was weird, so he wanted to make sure that I knew 213 00:10:50,855 --> 00:10:53,590 where he was going, just in case something bad happened. 214 00:10:53,625 --> 00:10:55,058 You gotta believe me. 215 00:10:57,662 --> 00:10:59,730 My suspicion is piqued that yeah, 216 00:10:59,764 --> 00:11:02,532 we are now moving into a homicide investigation here. 217 00:11:09,027 --> 00:11:11,829 We believed that John had not left the country, 218 00:11:11,863 --> 00:11:12,997 but where was he? 219 00:11:13,031 --> 00:11:15,432 Was he vacationing with Jen somewhere else? 220 00:11:15,467 --> 00:11:19,370 Was he just at a lake? He could be anywhere. 221 00:11:19,404 --> 00:11:21,739 But it just didn't make any sense. 222 00:11:21,773 --> 00:11:23,974 What's he writing? 223 00:11:24,009 --> 00:11:26,811 It's a list of people who know Altinger. 224 00:11:26,845 --> 00:11:28,646 He said the Costa Rica e-mail went out 225 00:11:28,680 --> 00:11:30,381 to all of his friends and family. 226 00:11:30,415 --> 00:11:31,582 Well, not all of them. 227 00:11:31,616 --> 00:11:33,417 We just talked to a guy who considers himself 228 00:11:33,451 --> 00:11:34,852 one of Altinger's best friends. 229 00:11:34,886 --> 00:11:38,088 He never got an e-mail about Costa Rica or anything. 230 00:11:38,123 --> 00:11:41,458 We need to learn everything we can about Altinger. 231 00:11:41,493 --> 00:11:43,627 Let's contact everyone on that list. 232 00:11:43,662 --> 00:11:45,262 All right, I'll get the guys on it. 233 00:11:45,297 --> 00:11:46,597 Right, thanks. 234 00:11:46,631 --> 00:11:48,232 I'll go chat with the family. 235 00:11:50,068 --> 00:11:52,503 As a homicide investigator, talking to the family 236 00:11:52,537 --> 00:11:56,240 of a missing loved one, it's, it's tough. 237 00:11:56,274 --> 00:11:58,642 You know, I want to give them all the information, 238 00:11:58,677 --> 00:12:01,779 I know they got a million questions that I can't answer. 239 00:12:01,813 --> 00:12:04,548 I'm just trying to reassure them and take the first steps that, 240 00:12:04,583 --> 00:12:05,916 "Hey, we're looking into this. 241 00:12:05,951 --> 00:12:07,651 Honestly, we, we don't know what we have." 242 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,089 So when was the last time you saw John? 243 00:12:12,123 --> 00:12:14,091 Uh, last, last August. 244 00:12:14,125 --> 00:12:18,095 He drove out here on his motorcycle after one of those... 245 00:12:18,129 --> 00:12:20,998 failed on-line relationships. 246 00:12:21,032 --> 00:12:23,400 So did he do a lot of on-line dating? 247 00:12:23,435 --> 00:12:25,769 Yeah, sure. 248 00:12:25,804 --> 00:12:28,172 He almost got married a couple of years ago. 249 00:12:28,206 --> 00:12:30,341 Nice girl. 250 00:12:30,375 --> 00:12:33,611 Bought a ring and everything, but uh, it didn't work out. 251 00:12:33,645 --> 00:12:35,179 So he was... 252 00:12:35,213 --> 00:12:36,647 looking for love. 253 00:12:36,681 --> 00:12:39,083 Yeah, you could say that, sure. 254 00:12:39,117 --> 00:12:42,086 Do you think that he found it uh, love, 255 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:43,954 with this uh, Jen girl? 256 00:12:43,989 --> 00:12:48,659 I don't believe he'd run off to Costa Rica on a whim like that, 257 00:12:48,693 --> 00:12:50,394 no matter who he met. 258 00:12:50,428 --> 00:12:52,563 Why not? 259 00:12:52,597 --> 00:12:54,064 Not like him. 260 00:12:54,099 --> 00:12:59,003 I mean, John's always been a very caring and connected guy. 261 00:12:59,037 --> 00:13:01,939 You know, he, he's always there for people. 262 00:13:01,973 --> 00:13:04,141 He just wouldn't take off like that. 263 00:13:04,175 --> 00:13:08,579 You know um, after our dad died, John came and, 264 00:13:08,613 --> 00:13:10,714 and stayed with our mom... 265 00:13:10,749 --> 00:13:12,683 just to look after her. 266 00:13:12,717 --> 00:13:14,518 I mean, he stayed there for three years. 267 00:13:14,552 --> 00:13:17,688 That's, that's the kind of man he is. 268 00:13:19,190 --> 00:13:21,659 Johnny Altinger, he was just a decent guy. 269 00:13:21,693 --> 00:13:23,794 Liked by everybody. 270 00:13:23,828 --> 00:13:26,664 You know, just the, uh, he was just Joe Average. 271 00:13:26,698 --> 00:13:31,035 Would you mind providing us with a sample of your DNA? 272 00:13:31,069 --> 00:13:33,604 It's a formality. Just in case. 273 00:13:33,638 --> 00:13:35,306 Sure. Whatever you need. 274 00:13:35,340 --> 00:13:39,109 Right. And um, I'll tell you what, here's my card 275 00:13:39,144 --> 00:13:42,947 just in case there's anything that you'd like to add. 276 00:13:44,783 --> 00:13:46,884 There's nothing worse than missing a loved one 277 00:13:46,918 --> 00:13:50,054 and not knowing if they're alive or dead. 278 00:13:50,088 --> 00:13:52,990 But the whole issue becomes even larger when you're getting a 279 00:13:53,024 --> 00:13:56,727 call from a homicide detective and he's telling you that, 280 00:13:56,761 --> 00:13:59,363 "Hey, we're looking into this disappearance." 281 00:13:59,397 --> 00:14:02,499 It's just gotta be horrible on the family. 282 00:14:02,534 --> 00:14:05,235 My mother's flying back from Mexico this weekend. 283 00:14:08,173 --> 00:14:10,507 What do I tell her? 284 00:14:10,542 --> 00:14:15,012 That we're investigating this as a, a missing person's case. 285 00:14:16,982 --> 00:14:19,183 Then why does your card say 'homicide'? 286 00:14:23,989 --> 00:14:26,090 We need to get into that garage... 287 00:14:26,124 --> 00:14:27,591 where Altinger met his date. 288 00:14:27,625 --> 00:14:29,593 I wrote up a warrant, but it was refused. 289 00:14:29,627 --> 00:14:31,428 - What? - They said there was no proof 290 00:14:31,463 --> 00:14:33,764 that a crime had been committed there. 291 00:14:33,798 --> 00:14:35,432 It's like a lightbulb went off, I go, 292 00:14:35,467 --> 00:14:37,601 yeah, we really can't prove there's been a crime committed, 293 00:14:37,635 --> 00:14:39,136 so you can't get a search warrant 294 00:14:39,170 --> 00:14:40,337 just to go search something. 295 00:14:40,372 --> 00:14:42,272 You're not allowed to go on fishing expeditions, 296 00:14:42,307 --> 00:14:44,441 you've got to prove there's a crime been committed 297 00:14:44,476 --> 00:14:46,343 to get a warrant to go in. 298 00:14:46,378 --> 00:14:48,579 So I'm going, oh yeah, well, that's a smart judge. 299 00:14:49,814 --> 00:14:51,281 Ah, forget it. 300 00:14:51,316 --> 00:14:52,416 What? 301 00:14:52,450 --> 00:14:54,685 We'll just go to the guy who rents the place 302 00:14:54,719 --> 00:14:56,487 and get the keys. 303 00:14:56,521 --> 00:14:59,556 He gave them to an officer before, he'll do it again. 304 00:14:59,591 --> 00:15:01,058 So, I phone him up. 305 00:15:01,092 --> 00:15:03,494 I just say, hey, we need to get in the garage, 306 00:15:03,528 --> 00:15:05,896 we want to have a really good look around, do you mind? 307 00:15:05,930 --> 00:15:07,564 First time I've ever talked to the guy, 308 00:15:07,599 --> 00:15:09,366 and I've only talked to him on the phone. 309 00:15:09,401 --> 00:15:10,801 He's Mister Cooperative. 310 00:15:10,835 --> 00:15:13,003 I says, I just need you to sign a consent form 311 00:15:13,038 --> 00:15:14,304 that we can search the garage. 312 00:15:14,339 --> 00:15:15,506 He goes, oh, not a problem. 313 00:15:15,540 --> 00:15:17,708 I says, I'll send a guy up there to meet you. 314 00:15:17,742 --> 00:15:20,144 You can give the key, he'll get you to sign this form 315 00:15:20,178 --> 00:15:21,311 and we'll have a look. 316 00:15:21,346 --> 00:15:22,613 This'll get you in. 317 00:15:22,647 --> 00:15:24,081 Thanks. 318 00:15:24,115 --> 00:15:25,149 Sorry about all the trouble. 319 00:15:25,183 --> 00:15:27,051 No. No trouble at all. 320 00:15:27,085 --> 00:15:30,621 Murphy gets him in his car and... 321 00:15:30,655 --> 00:15:32,189 the case changes. 322 00:15:32,223 --> 00:15:34,725 This is where everything turned. 323 00:15:34,759 --> 00:15:36,593 But could you help me out? 324 00:15:36,628 --> 00:15:38,996 Could you see if your guys found out anything about my car? 325 00:15:39,030 --> 00:15:40,297 Your car? What about it? 326 00:15:40,331 --> 00:15:42,166 It was broken into a couple of weeks ago. 327 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:43,367 I filed a report. 328 00:15:43,401 --> 00:15:45,736 Some stuff was missing. A few receipts. 329 00:15:45,770 --> 00:15:46,970 One was for the garage rental 330 00:15:47,005 --> 00:15:48,605 and the other had my address on it. 331 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,607 So I'm just kind of worried that, you know, 332 00:15:50,642 --> 00:15:52,876 someone's out there messing with me. 333 00:15:52,911 --> 00:15:54,278 Maybe stealing my identity. 334 00:15:54,312 --> 00:15:56,080 What makes you think that? 335 00:15:56,114 --> 00:15:58,282 Well, a few days after, I came home with my wife 336 00:15:58,316 --> 00:15:59,516 and our door was unlocked. 337 00:16:01,486 --> 00:16:02,886 Was anything stolen from the house? 338 00:16:02,921 --> 00:16:04,455 No, no. 339 00:16:04,489 --> 00:16:07,091 But I'm just, I'm getting this impression that I'm being, 340 00:16:07,125 --> 00:16:08,358 I don't know, watched. 341 00:16:08,393 --> 00:16:10,194 - Watched? - Yeah. 342 00:16:10,228 --> 00:16:12,096 How? 343 00:16:12,130 --> 00:16:14,865 A couple of days ago I'm out near my garage working on a set, 344 00:16:14,899 --> 00:16:18,268 and this guy taps on my window and he tells me this story about 345 00:16:18,303 --> 00:16:21,772 how he met this rich girl who's going to take him on vacation 346 00:16:21,806 --> 00:16:23,540 and she wants him to sell his car. 347 00:16:23,575 --> 00:16:26,143 And she's going to buy him a new one when they get back. 348 00:16:26,177 --> 00:16:28,278 So he's like, 'you wanna buy a car?' I'm like, 349 00:16:28,313 --> 00:16:30,547 'I don't have enough money on me to buy a car.' 350 00:16:30,582 --> 00:16:34,118 And he's like, 'how much you got in your wallet?' 351 00:16:34,152 --> 00:16:40,023 I say, 'forty bucks.' He's like, 'Yeah, sold!' 352 00:16:40,058 --> 00:16:42,059 You don't buy a car for forty dollars. Come on! 353 00:16:42,093 --> 00:16:44,461 I don't care who you are, this just doesn't make sense. 354 00:16:44,496 --> 00:16:47,531 So it's like, right away, big red flag. 355 00:16:47,565 --> 00:16:51,368 It's like, things aren't right here. 356 00:16:51,402 --> 00:16:53,403 Where is the car that you bought? Is it here? 357 00:16:53,438 --> 00:16:55,839 No, it's at my friend Joss Hnatiuk's. 358 00:16:55,874 --> 00:16:57,674 It's a stick and I can't even drive manual, 359 00:16:57,709 --> 00:16:59,209 so I'm keeping it there. 360 00:16:59,244 --> 00:17:01,211 I can give you his address if you need it. 361 00:17:01,246 --> 00:17:03,347 OK. What kind of car is it? 362 00:17:03,381 --> 00:17:05,349 It's a red Mazda 3. 363 00:17:05,383 --> 00:17:07,784 Exactly the same car as John Altinger. 364 00:17:07,819 --> 00:17:10,020 I says, holy mackerel, we need to get this guy in. 365 00:17:10,054 --> 00:17:12,055 We need to get him in here for an interview. 366 00:17:13,258 --> 00:17:15,058 Now Detective Anstey and I are scrambling: 367 00:17:15,093 --> 00:17:17,394 how do we get this guy down? 368 00:17:17,428 --> 00:17:21,365 Let's ask the guy to just come down on his own. 369 00:17:21,399 --> 00:17:23,600 He's got his car there anyway, he's with Murphy, 370 00:17:23,635 --> 00:17:25,936 he's got his own car, let's tell him to drive down. 371 00:17:33,077 --> 00:17:35,679 He's still working on his statement? 372 00:17:35,713 --> 00:17:38,549 Two hours and counting. 373 00:17:38,583 --> 00:17:40,584 Like he's writing his next movie. 374 00:17:44,355 --> 00:17:46,023 Uh, I better pull up a chair. 375 00:17:47,825 --> 00:17:50,594 So we're waiting and we're watching and he's writing, 376 00:17:50,628 --> 00:17:52,462 and he's writing, and he's writing. 377 00:17:52,497 --> 00:17:54,865 And he goes page after page, after page. 378 00:17:54,899 --> 00:17:56,400 He writes eight pages! 379 00:18:00,605 --> 00:18:01,572 Thanks, Mark. 380 00:18:03,575 --> 00:18:05,242 So I read it over. 381 00:18:05,276 --> 00:18:07,678 It indicated that he was producing a film or something, 382 00:18:07,712 --> 00:18:10,013 shooting some type of short film in this garage. 383 00:18:10,048 --> 00:18:13,450 Well, he just rambles on and on about the movie-making. 384 00:18:13,484 --> 00:18:16,086 And then the red car is basically two small paragraphs 385 00:18:16,120 --> 00:18:17,955 on one page. 386 00:18:17,989 --> 00:18:20,157 And that's the big incident. 387 00:18:20,191 --> 00:18:21,758 I'm thinking it's a sign of deception, 388 00:18:21,793 --> 00:18:23,994 he's not telling me the whole story about the red car. 389 00:18:25,463 --> 00:18:26,997 This is great. 390 00:18:27,031 --> 00:18:27,965 Very detailed. 391 00:18:27,999 --> 00:18:29,433 You're a hell of a writer, Mark. 392 00:18:29,467 --> 00:18:30,500 I try. 393 00:18:30,535 --> 00:18:32,469 Yeah, I just have one question, though. 394 00:18:32,503 --> 00:18:34,371 Why didn't you mention any of this 395 00:18:34,405 --> 00:18:36,673 when you first showed us the garage? 396 00:18:36,708 --> 00:18:38,375 I didn't think it was related. 397 00:18:38,409 --> 00:18:40,477 But then I talked to my wife and, you know, 398 00:18:40,511 --> 00:18:42,079 she thought I should mention it, so. 399 00:18:42,113 --> 00:18:44,481 You think the guy that sold you the car for forty dollars 400 00:18:44,515 --> 00:18:48,585 had anything to do with John Altinger's disappearance? 401 00:18:48,620 --> 00:18:50,153 I don't know. 402 00:18:50,188 --> 00:18:53,323 Looking back on it, yeah, it sure feels that way. 403 00:18:53,358 --> 00:18:55,225 Look, I feel like an idiot for having thought 404 00:18:55,260 --> 00:18:57,494 that this car situation was on the uh, up and up. 405 00:18:57,528 --> 00:19:00,497 So, if it's all the same to you, I would prefer if I just gave 406 00:19:00,531 --> 00:19:02,733 you the keys to the Mazda and be done with it. 407 00:19:02,767 --> 00:19:04,701 I brought them with me, they're in the car. 408 00:19:04,736 --> 00:19:06,169 That sounds great. 409 00:19:06,204 --> 00:19:07,838 Let me just check with my partner, 410 00:19:07,872 --> 00:19:10,674 see if he has any more questions and uh, 411 00:19:10,708 --> 00:19:11,975 we'll get you on your way. 412 00:19:26,057 --> 00:19:28,158 Hello? 413 00:19:28,192 --> 00:19:30,894 Yeah, still here. 414 00:19:30,928 --> 00:19:33,163 What? 415 00:19:33,197 --> 00:19:34,765 Yeah, it turns out that the car 416 00:19:34,799 --> 00:19:36,233 doesn't belong to that missing guy. 417 00:19:36,267 --> 00:19:38,435 It's just a big mess. 418 00:19:38,469 --> 00:19:42,239 I'll be home soon, OK? 419 00:19:42,273 --> 00:19:44,541 I'll call you when I'm on my way. 420 00:19:44,575 --> 00:19:46,176 All right. Bye. 421 00:19:47,278 --> 00:19:49,846 He's lying. 422 00:19:49,881 --> 00:19:51,448 Not what you said last time. 423 00:19:51,482 --> 00:19:53,817 Well, last time there was no pressure on him. 424 00:19:53,851 --> 00:19:55,218 It was a soft interview. This time, 425 00:19:55,253 --> 00:19:57,454 I'm starting to lean on him a bit about the car 426 00:19:57,488 --> 00:20:00,357 he bought, and he's starting to show signs of deception. 427 00:20:00,391 --> 00:20:01,558 I mean, look at him. 428 00:20:01,592 --> 00:20:03,694 Biting his lip, he's got dry mouth... 429 00:20:03,728 --> 00:20:05,696 We can't arrest a guy for having dry mouth. 430 00:20:05,730 --> 00:20:08,198 Yeah, and you can't buy a car for forty dollars either. 431 00:20:08,232 --> 00:20:09,800 I'm not arguing with you. 432 00:20:09,834 --> 00:20:11,802 But everything he says checks out. 433 00:20:11,836 --> 00:20:13,236 Them breaking into his car. 434 00:20:13,271 --> 00:20:15,238 Look, he, he filed a report the very next day. 435 00:20:15,273 --> 00:20:17,708 Yeah, right, someone breaks into his car to take receipts? 436 00:20:17,742 --> 00:20:19,343 Does that mean they're following him? 437 00:20:19,377 --> 00:20:20,677 They're trying to frame him? 438 00:20:20,712 --> 00:20:22,479 I just think we've got to be careful here, 439 00:20:22,513 --> 00:20:24,047 we've got nothing to charge him with. 440 00:20:24,082 --> 00:20:25,782 So far, he's been cooperative. 441 00:20:25,817 --> 00:20:30,887 Yeah, well, let's see if he cooperates enough to confess. 442 00:20:30,922 --> 00:20:32,856 What? Where you going? 443 00:20:53,878 --> 00:20:55,278 Mark, did you have anything to do 444 00:20:55,313 --> 00:20:57,681 with the disappearance of John Altinger? 445 00:20:57,715 --> 00:20:59,349 No! 446 00:20:59,384 --> 00:21:01,385 Because I have no doubt in my mind 447 00:21:02,417 --> 00:21:05,607 that you were involved in his disappearance. 448 00:21:05,608 --> 00:21:06,623 Why? 449 00:21:06,657 --> 00:21:08,225 Because you're not telling us the truth. 450 00:21:08,259 --> 00:21:10,060 You haven't told us anything near the truth. 451 00:21:14,632 --> 00:21:16,133 Is this some sort of scare tactic? 452 00:21:22,340 --> 00:21:25,142 Mark, you're not dumb. 453 00:21:25,176 --> 00:21:26,943 You know you can't buy a car that's worth 454 00:21:26,978 --> 00:21:29,513 over ten grand for forty dollars. 455 00:21:29,547 --> 00:21:31,882 So just tell me what happened to John. 456 00:21:31,916 --> 00:21:33,283 Tell me where he is. 457 00:21:33,317 --> 00:21:36,153 You can't live with this for the rest of your life. 458 00:21:45,830 --> 00:21:47,397 I want a lawyer. 459 00:21:56,464 --> 00:21:58,665 I took the chance and pushed the envelope. 460 00:21:58,700 --> 00:22:01,368 In the end, we've got no evidence, we've got nothing. 461 00:22:01,402 --> 00:22:02,669 Maybe he's not involved. 462 00:22:02,704 --> 00:22:04,171 Maybe I am wrong. 463 00:22:12,311 --> 00:22:16,047 I never want a guy to walk out, and I'm always thinking that... 464 00:22:16,082 --> 00:22:17,949 we're probably not getting this guy back in here. 465 00:22:21,554 --> 00:22:23,622 You OK? 466 00:22:23,656 --> 00:22:25,624 We just can't let him walk. 467 00:22:25,658 --> 00:22:27,425 We're just going to have to cool our jets 468 00:22:27,460 --> 00:22:28,927 until the warrants come through. 469 00:22:31,097 --> 00:22:33,465 I'm getting nowhere with him and I can't throw anything at him 470 00:22:33,500 --> 00:22:34,700 because I got no evidence. 471 00:22:34,734 --> 00:22:35,834 I was mad. 472 00:22:35,869 --> 00:22:37,703 I was mad because I didn't get a confession. 473 00:22:40,507 --> 00:22:42,508 Probably my emotions got a little bit of me there, 474 00:22:42,542 --> 00:22:44,476 but I thought, ah, screw it. 475 00:22:46,346 --> 00:22:50,182 I know you killed that guy, and I'm coming to get you. 476 00:22:50,216 --> 00:22:51,750 It's just a matter of time. 477 00:23:03,096 --> 00:23:05,197 You want them to feel out of their element, 478 00:23:05,231 --> 00:23:06,565 because then they start saying things 479 00:23:06,599 --> 00:23:08,834 they probably shouldn't say. 480 00:23:08,868 --> 00:23:10,836 You know, we'd been going hard all night, I'm tired, 481 00:23:10,870 --> 00:23:13,238 but it's like, you just get a second rush of adrenaline 482 00:23:13,273 --> 00:23:14,606 and you're pumped now. 483 00:23:25,018 --> 00:23:26,452 Hey! 484 00:23:28,221 --> 00:23:31,090 That's your car? 485 00:23:31,124 --> 00:23:32,691 Keys to the Mazda in there? 486 00:23:32,726 --> 00:23:34,026 Yeah, they're in it. 487 00:23:34,060 --> 00:23:35,728 Then I'm seizing your whole car. 488 00:23:35,762 --> 00:23:36,895 Well, you can't do that. 489 00:23:36,930 --> 00:23:39,698 Sure I can. The Mazda keys are stolen property. 490 00:23:39,733 --> 00:23:41,533 But I told you I'd give them to you! 491 00:23:41,568 --> 00:23:43,202 Yeah, but possession of stolen property, 492 00:23:43,236 --> 00:23:46,572 probable cause for me to take your car, and everything in it. 493 00:23:46,606 --> 00:23:47,973 Nah, you need a warrant for that! 494 00:23:48,007 --> 00:23:50,909 Ah, to look through it, sure. But not to seize it. 495 00:23:50,944 --> 00:23:52,277 Give me your keys. 496 00:23:52,312 --> 00:23:54,513 And he turns and looks at me and he goes, so, 497 00:23:54,547 --> 00:23:56,348 I just need to get something out of it. 498 00:23:56,382 --> 00:23:59,251 I says, you're getting fuck all out of that car. I was mad. 499 00:24:10,730 --> 00:24:12,898 Detective Anstey heard this and he thought 500 00:24:12,932 --> 00:24:15,567 I had to check my ego at the door. 501 00:24:15,602 --> 00:24:17,069 Detective Anstey was right. 502 00:24:17,103 --> 00:24:18,504 But, you know what? 503 00:24:18,538 --> 00:24:21,006 Police work is not rocket science, it's common sense. 504 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,207 And it made sense to me 505 00:24:22,242 --> 00:24:24,343 that this Mark guy's involved somehow. 506 00:24:24,377 --> 00:24:26,979 I just don't know yet what his involvement is. 507 00:24:38,925 --> 00:24:40,793 Edmonton Police. 508 00:24:40,827 --> 00:24:43,195 Go away. 509 00:24:43,229 --> 00:24:44,930 Mark isn't here. 510 00:24:44,964 --> 00:24:48,066 He told me not to talk to you. 511 00:24:48,101 --> 00:24:50,569 Well, don't you want to know why two homicide detectives are 512 00:24:50,603 --> 00:24:55,507 at your door and your husband's telling you not to talk? 513 00:24:59,245 --> 00:25:04,316 Ah, Detective Clark, Edmonton PD. 514 00:25:04,350 --> 00:25:06,051 Who's the little one? 515 00:25:06,085 --> 00:25:07,419 Chloe. 516 00:25:07,453 --> 00:25:10,522 Chloe. That's a, that's a pretty name. 517 00:25:10,557 --> 00:25:11,657 And you are? 518 00:25:11,691 --> 00:25:13,625 Jess. 519 00:25:13,660 --> 00:25:16,128 Now, Jess, I don't know what Mark has told you, 520 00:25:16,162 --> 00:25:19,198 but he's involved in something big, 521 00:25:19,232 --> 00:25:22,467 and we're going to have to seize your house, ma'am. 522 00:25:22,502 --> 00:25:25,637 What? I don't, I don't understand what's going on. 523 00:25:25,672 --> 00:25:28,173 We're bringing in a team to search your home. 524 00:25:28,208 --> 00:25:32,511 This detective will stay until they arrive. 525 00:25:32,545 --> 00:25:35,347 Now, you can stay if you want, but I would suggest that 526 00:25:35,381 --> 00:25:40,052 you and Chloe leave until the police have done their job. 527 00:25:40,086 --> 00:25:42,387 Go inside, make sure nothing gets touched. 528 00:25:42,422 --> 00:25:44,156 Let me know the minute Mark comes home. 529 00:25:44,190 --> 00:25:46,792 Whatever you do, don't let him in the house. 530 00:25:49,362 --> 00:25:52,097 We, we are getting a search warrant to search this house. 531 00:25:52,131 --> 00:25:57,236 In the meantime, Mark won't be allowed to remove anything. 532 00:25:57,270 --> 00:26:00,072 We get a phone call from Detective Anstey. 533 00:26:00,106 --> 00:26:02,274 He tells us we are getting a warrant for the garage. 534 00:26:16,055 --> 00:26:17,589 What do you think? 535 00:26:19,993 --> 00:26:23,328 Maybe corn syrup. 536 00:26:23,363 --> 00:26:26,965 They mix it with red dye to make fake blood. 537 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,935 Yeah, well, we better make sure that none of it's real. 538 00:26:32,605 --> 00:26:36,108 Mark had told me that these were the props from his movie set. 539 00:26:36,142 --> 00:26:39,411 It looked like a kill room from the show Dexter. 540 00:26:39,445 --> 00:26:42,814 I mean, he built a table just like Dexter had. 541 00:26:42,849 --> 00:26:46,551 And I'm thinking, what the hell's going on here? 542 00:26:46,586 --> 00:26:47,619 BB gun. 543 00:26:47,654 --> 00:26:49,554 He had knives, meat cleavers. 544 00:26:49,589 --> 00:26:51,023 It was weird. 545 00:26:51,057 --> 00:26:54,159 You could see what looked like blood and possibly skin, 546 00:26:54,193 --> 00:26:56,561 in the end of that knife. 547 00:26:56,596 --> 00:26:57,996 That real? 548 00:26:58,031 --> 00:27:00,265 Could be. 549 00:27:00,300 --> 00:27:03,268 This is going to take some time. 550 00:27:03,303 --> 00:27:05,570 It looks like someone's already been doing some housekeeping. 551 00:27:09,575 --> 00:27:10,676 Clark. 552 00:27:22,822 --> 00:27:25,190 Things just aren't sitting right. 553 00:27:25,224 --> 00:27:26,725 It's not a good feeling. 554 00:27:26,759 --> 00:27:28,894 Something bad's happened to John. 555 00:27:33,566 --> 00:27:34,967 Hey. 556 00:27:38,371 --> 00:27:40,806 How you doing, Link? 557 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,274 What's this? 558 00:27:42,308 --> 00:27:44,810 That is a tooth I found in the garage. 559 00:27:44,844 --> 00:27:45,911 I'll run Altinger's dental records. 560 00:27:45,945 --> 00:27:47,479 No, no, Link. That fine, man. 561 00:27:47,513 --> 00:27:50,549 I know you have a lot of cases, I can handle it. 562 00:27:50,583 --> 00:27:52,784 Uh, Bill, actually, I brought Link in. 563 00:27:52,819 --> 00:27:55,020 I thought we could use the help. 564 00:27:55,054 --> 00:27:56,722 Paul Link was brought in. 565 00:27:56,756 --> 00:27:59,758 Maybe there's something I'm simply not seeing. 566 00:27:59,792 --> 00:28:02,361 I always tell guys, you've got to check your ego at the door, 567 00:28:02,395 --> 00:28:04,196 and I had to do a big check there. 568 00:28:04,230 --> 00:28:07,966 Oh. OK. 569 00:28:08,001 --> 00:28:09,835 Did Anstey fill you in? 570 00:28:09,869 --> 00:28:11,603 Yeah. He did. 571 00:28:11,637 --> 00:28:13,105 And he told me his new theory. 572 00:28:13,139 --> 00:28:16,341 Well, look, a lot of people had access to the garage, right? 573 00:28:16,376 --> 00:28:18,643 Yeah, the crew. 574 00:28:18,678 --> 00:28:21,413 Well, maybe they're making a snuff film. 575 00:28:21,447 --> 00:28:23,515 - A snuff film? - Yeah. 576 00:28:23,549 --> 00:28:25,951 Basically, a snuff film is a film a person would make up 577 00:28:25,985 --> 00:28:27,152 of an actual murder. 578 00:28:27,186 --> 00:28:29,421 They're actually killing someone and they film it. 579 00:28:29,455 --> 00:28:32,557 It's not fake, it's not Hollywood, there's no acting, 580 00:28:32,592 --> 00:28:35,927 it's real life and they kill a person. 581 00:28:35,962 --> 00:28:40,866 They film it, and then they sell the film for big dollars. 582 00:28:40,900 --> 00:28:43,635 Even found a guy online offering a million dollars 583 00:28:43,669 --> 00:28:44,836 for the real thing. 584 00:28:44,871 --> 00:28:46,405 - A million dollars? - Yeah. 585 00:28:46,439 --> 00:28:49,574 Great way for Mark and his crew to raise a lot of money. 586 00:28:49,609 --> 00:28:52,677 We needed to talk to Mark, but if we ask him to come down 587 00:28:52,712 --> 00:28:55,714 to the station, he's going to just laugh at us. 588 00:28:55,748 --> 00:28:58,517 OK, well, what about the guy on the internet 589 00:28:58,551 --> 00:29:01,119 that's offering the million dollars, can we track him? 590 00:29:01,154 --> 00:29:02,721 Tech's trying. 591 00:29:02,755 --> 00:29:03,855 But it's not easy. 592 00:29:03,890 --> 00:29:06,958 Our best bet's to talk to the crew. 593 00:29:06,993 --> 00:29:08,393 Find out what they've been up to 594 00:29:08,428 --> 00:29:10,362 in this little garage of horrors of theirs. 595 00:29:12,298 --> 00:29:13,832 We started with Joss Hnatiuk. 596 00:29:13,866 --> 00:29:17,436 He's the one who had the red Mazda that Mark bought. 597 00:29:17,470 --> 00:29:19,771 Joss was the helper guy on the set 598 00:29:19,806 --> 00:29:21,673 when they were filming their little movies. 599 00:29:21,707 --> 00:29:22,841 Hey! 600 00:29:22,875 --> 00:29:24,709 What are you doing? 601 00:29:26,779 --> 00:29:29,681 Is this your car? 602 00:29:29,715 --> 00:29:33,652 I hear there's a lot of money to be made for snuff films. 603 00:29:33,686 --> 00:29:35,153 Uh, I wouldn't know. 604 00:29:35,188 --> 00:29:36,488 I've never seen one. 605 00:29:36,522 --> 00:29:40,525 You ever wonder how Mark was paying for his movies? 606 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,661 He's a talented guy. 607 00:29:42,695 --> 00:29:45,564 Knows producers in Hollywood. He... 608 00:29:45,598 --> 00:29:47,365 impresses a lot of people. 609 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,335 He told me once he got thirty grand from some accountant. 610 00:29:50,369 --> 00:29:52,871 Promised him he'd make a million dollars. 611 00:29:52,905 --> 00:29:55,373 Wow, that's quite a promise. 612 00:29:55,408 --> 00:29:57,509 Yeah. People trust Mark. 613 00:29:57,543 --> 00:29:59,344 So it would seem. 614 00:30:05,985 --> 00:30:07,252 Ah! 615 00:30:09,922 --> 00:30:12,691 Did you work with Mark on the last movie 616 00:30:12,725 --> 00:30:14,726 he shot in his garage? 617 00:30:15,661 --> 00:30:17,295 What was it about? 618 00:30:17,330 --> 00:30:18,463 A killer. 619 00:30:18,498 --> 00:30:20,198 What kind of killer? 620 00:30:20,233 --> 00:30:23,635 One who uses a dating service to lure some guy into his garage, 621 00:30:23,669 --> 00:30:25,504 and then he... kills him. 622 00:30:26,405 --> 00:30:28,106 How would I see this movie? 623 00:30:54,429 --> 00:30:56,998 I really thought that we had a snuff film. 624 00:30:57,032 --> 00:30:59,133 They do exist. 625 00:30:59,168 --> 00:31:02,236 Guys like Luka Magnotta, right? 626 00:31:02,271 --> 00:31:06,073 He sold a film of him killing that guy. 627 00:31:06,108 --> 00:31:08,176 Maybe this is the piece we're looking for 628 00:31:08,210 --> 00:31:10,411 where they've actually filmed the murder of John. 629 00:31:19,154 --> 00:31:21,222 This is not a snuff film. 630 00:31:22,925 --> 00:31:24,592 And... cut. 631 00:31:24,626 --> 00:31:27,995 Well, that was awesome, guys. 632 00:31:28,030 --> 00:31:29,730 Um, you OK? 633 00:31:34,069 --> 00:31:36,938 I've got to take this. Excuse me. 634 00:31:36,972 --> 00:31:40,141 When did Altinger disappear? 635 00:31:40,175 --> 00:31:42,977 October 10th. 636 00:31:43,011 --> 00:31:44,946 This was filmed two weeks before John went missing. 637 00:31:46,715 --> 00:31:48,382 This is just one memory card. 638 00:31:48,417 --> 00:31:50,718 We need to see the rest of the footage. 639 00:31:50,752 --> 00:31:51,886 It's at his house. 640 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,287 We have a detective securing the home, 641 00:31:53,322 --> 00:31:54,555 but I can't get in until... 642 00:31:54,590 --> 00:31:55,790 You can get in. 643 00:31:55,824 --> 00:31:57,758 We just got clearance for warrants on the house 644 00:31:57,793 --> 00:31:58,993 and the car. 645 00:31:59,027 --> 00:32:01,062 I'm going to go pick them up now. 646 00:32:01,096 --> 00:32:02,597 Thanks, Paul. 647 00:32:02,631 --> 00:32:05,666 When we searched Mark's house, I told them, 648 00:32:05,701 --> 00:32:08,970 make sure you take every hard drive, every CD, every disk, 649 00:32:09,004 --> 00:32:10,938 anything that can store data. 650 00:32:10,973 --> 00:32:12,340 Make sure we seize it all. 651 00:32:12,374 --> 00:32:13,941 Because I truly was of the belief 652 00:32:13,976 --> 00:32:16,344 that this was a snuff film. 653 00:32:39,234 --> 00:32:41,636 We went through there and we found all kinds of hard drives. 654 00:32:41,670 --> 00:32:43,204 There were lots of DVDs. 655 00:32:43,238 --> 00:32:45,773 There was a real affinity to the show Dexter. 656 00:32:45,807 --> 00:32:47,642 He had a lot of books on Dexter. 657 00:32:47,676 --> 00:32:51,078 He had the DVDs of each season. 658 00:32:51,113 --> 00:32:55,683 I'm thinking to myself, we see all this violence on TV, 659 00:32:55,717 --> 00:32:58,519 it affects people in different ways. 660 00:32:58,553 --> 00:33:00,187 There's no doubt it affects people. 661 00:33:04,226 --> 00:33:08,763 Everything was adding up, but it still wasn't making any sense. 662 00:33:08,797 --> 00:33:11,265 And then we pulled the laptop from his car. 663 00:33:11,300 --> 00:33:13,668 And you wouldn't believe what we found. 664 00:33:13,702 --> 00:33:16,137 It's a document that he tried to erase. 665 00:33:16,171 --> 00:33:18,572 It's called "S.K. Confessions." Here. 666 00:33:21,143 --> 00:33:23,344 "This is the story of my progression 667 00:33:23,378 --> 00:33:26,347 into becoming a serial killer..." 668 00:33:26,381 --> 00:33:29,483 The document was detailed and disturbing. 669 00:33:29,518 --> 00:33:33,988 It definitely seemed like a confession to Altinger's murder. 670 00:33:34,022 --> 00:33:37,425 "A double detached garage for rent in the south of the city, 671 00:33:37,459 --> 00:33:41,295 with a house occupied by tenants who couldn't even read English." 672 00:33:41,330 --> 00:33:43,331 - This is his garage. - Yeah, yeah. 673 00:33:43,365 --> 00:33:46,500 "Everything I decided, would take place here." 674 00:33:46,535 --> 00:33:47,735 He talked about everything. 675 00:33:47,769 --> 00:33:50,171 Why he lured the victim, how he lured him. 676 00:33:50,205 --> 00:33:51,973 He talked about the site. 677 00:33:52,007 --> 00:33:55,543 He talked about using the female profile, where he got it from. 678 00:33:55,577 --> 00:33:57,111 Everything. 679 00:33:59,114 --> 00:34:01,515 This is a diary. 680 00:34:01,550 --> 00:34:03,884 I mean, all he did was change the names a little. 681 00:34:03,919 --> 00:34:05,953 I mean, he calls his wife Jess, Tess 682 00:34:05,988 --> 00:34:07,788 and his daughter Chloe, Zoe. 683 00:34:07,823 --> 00:34:10,291 Everything else is real. 684 00:34:10,325 --> 00:34:14,061 It goes into explicit detail and I'm looking at this document, 685 00:34:14,096 --> 00:34:15,529 reading it, and I remember thinking, 686 00:34:15,564 --> 00:34:17,898 'Wow, this thing is true!' 687 00:34:17,933 --> 00:34:21,502 "The room filled with the echo of the pipe 688 00:34:21,536 --> 00:34:24,538 crashing into the back of his skull. 689 00:34:24,573 --> 00:34:27,775 He hit the floor but was still conscious. 690 00:34:27,809 --> 00:34:30,845 I pulled my hunting knife from its sheath, 691 00:34:30,879 --> 00:34:33,914 and watching the shock on his face as he saw the blade... 692 00:34:36,084 --> 00:34:37,752 I thrust it into his gut." 693 00:34:41,123 --> 00:34:43,024 Just a total lack of empathy. 694 00:34:43,058 --> 00:34:46,293 I mean, he talks about eating a bag of chips, you know, 695 00:34:46,328 --> 00:34:50,564 whistling, singing songs while he's dismembering Johnny. 696 00:34:50,599 --> 00:34:52,600 This, this... 697 00:34:52,634 --> 00:34:55,269 this is sick stuff, I mean. 698 00:34:58,340 --> 00:35:00,808 Anstey, this... 699 00:35:00,842 --> 00:35:03,377 is a full confession. 700 00:35:03,412 --> 00:35:06,614 But in that document, it also states there was a first victim. 701 00:35:06,648 --> 00:35:08,249 And we're like, whoa! 702 00:35:08,283 --> 00:35:09,884 We're shocked! 703 00:35:09,918 --> 00:35:12,486 Someone that he attacked and then got away. 704 00:35:14,289 --> 00:35:16,690 Why hasn't anyone come forward? 705 00:35:16,725 --> 00:35:19,994 If the other victim was out there, we needed to find him. 706 00:35:25,982 --> 00:35:28,083 We've got this document, S.K. Confessions, 707 00:35:28,118 --> 00:35:29,985 it details the whole murder. 708 00:35:30,020 --> 00:35:33,389 It described luring a guy on the internet. 709 00:35:33,423 --> 00:35:35,691 Hitting him over the head with the metal pipe. 710 00:35:35,725 --> 00:35:37,493 Cutting him up. 711 00:35:37,527 --> 00:35:41,163 Driving around with the body parts in his car. 712 00:35:41,198 --> 00:35:43,532 This guy was a pathological liar. 713 00:35:43,567 --> 00:35:46,469 He's going to say that's a work of fiction. 714 00:35:46,503 --> 00:35:49,772 But we knew there was another victim out there who got away. 715 00:35:49,806 --> 00:35:52,741 Finding that victim was huge to really proving that 716 00:35:52,776 --> 00:35:55,377 that S.K. Confessions document was true. 717 00:35:55,412 --> 00:35:57,613 So we decided to go to the news media. 718 00:35:57,647 --> 00:35:59,515 Police say the victim, John Altinger, 719 00:35:59,549 --> 00:36:01,517 was lured on a dating website with the promise 720 00:36:01,551 --> 00:36:03,819 of meeting a beautiful woman. 721 00:36:03,854 --> 00:36:07,156 Instead, police theorize he was met by his killer. 722 00:36:07,190 --> 00:36:09,592 And police are looking for another would-be victim 723 00:36:09,626 --> 00:36:11,026 who escaped. 724 00:36:11,061 --> 00:36:13,662 The unknown man went to the same garage to meet a woman, 725 00:36:13,697 --> 00:36:17,066 but was confronted by a man in a hockey mask. 726 00:36:17,100 --> 00:36:20,436 Detective Anstey went in the media and showed the mask, 727 00:36:20,470 --> 00:36:22,671 and the very next morning, I got a phone call from 728 00:36:22,706 --> 00:36:27,676 Gilles Tetreault, and uh, he came down to the station. 729 00:36:27,711 --> 00:36:29,411 She was a bit forward. 730 00:36:29,446 --> 00:36:31,580 Always asking if I wanted to meet. 731 00:36:31,615 --> 00:36:34,550 Then she gave me directions instead of an address. 732 00:36:34,584 --> 00:36:37,920 Uh, I thought that was odd, but I still wanted to meet her. 733 00:36:37,954 --> 00:36:39,488 It was, without a doubt, 734 00:36:39,523 --> 00:36:43,192 the most riveting witness interview I've had in my career. 735 00:36:44,995 --> 00:36:48,531 The story was exactly the same as John Altinger. 736 00:36:48,565 --> 00:36:49,698 He met a girl online. 737 00:36:51,735 --> 00:36:53,702 So when I got out of the car, 738 00:36:53,737 --> 00:36:55,471 I should have been scoping the place first, 739 00:36:55,505 --> 00:36:58,574 but I was rushing, thinking that I was late 740 00:36:58,608 --> 00:37:00,876 and she was going to be upset. 741 00:37:05,048 --> 00:37:07,750 And out of nowhere, this guys just tasers me. 742 00:37:07,784 --> 00:37:08,918 Agh! 743 00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:14,523 He grabs me and he pulls me through the side door. 744 00:37:21,331 --> 00:37:22,731 I'm thinking he's going to kill me. 745 00:37:22,766 --> 00:37:23,933 Don't move. 746 00:37:26,403 --> 00:37:28,704 Just let me go, OK? You can take whatever you want, 747 00:37:28,738 --> 00:37:31,106 Shut up! you can take my wallet! 748 00:37:31,141 --> 00:37:33,943 And then I tell myself, no, not like this. 749 00:37:38,949 --> 00:37:40,449 I was so weak I couldn't run. 750 00:37:41,952 --> 00:37:43,319 Help! 751 00:37:43,353 --> 00:37:47,790 And I knew, if he gets me back inside, I'm as good as dead. 752 00:37:47,824 --> 00:37:49,959 When I got home... 753 00:37:49,993 --> 00:37:55,731 I went on the dating site, but the profile, the messages, 754 00:37:55,765 --> 00:37:56,732 they were gone. 755 00:37:56,766 --> 00:37:58,100 Just vanished. 756 00:38:00,303 --> 00:38:04,573 I had read that S.K. Confessions document multiple times by now. 757 00:38:04,608 --> 00:38:07,076 I knew that document inside and out. 758 00:38:07,110 --> 00:38:12,548 Everything Gilles told me was exactly the same. 759 00:38:12,582 --> 00:38:15,484 So what took you so long to come forward? 760 00:38:18,755 --> 00:38:20,522 I was scared. 761 00:38:22,559 --> 00:38:24,426 Ashamed. 762 00:38:24,461 --> 00:38:27,229 To think that I was attacked in the same way, at the same place, 763 00:38:27,263 --> 00:38:29,331 just one week before the missing man. 764 00:38:29,366 --> 00:38:30,966 And... 765 00:38:31,001 --> 00:38:33,002 that'll haunt me to the day I die. 766 00:38:35,872 --> 00:38:38,774 I could have done something. 767 00:38:38,808 --> 00:38:40,042 I should have done something. 768 00:38:45,982 --> 00:38:48,283 Behind the police tape and garage doors, 769 00:38:48,318 --> 00:38:51,787 a chilling scene of what could be life imitating art. 770 00:38:51,821 --> 00:38:54,390 A homicide police say was literally scripted, 771 00:38:54,424 --> 00:38:56,725 then carried out by an Edmonton filmmaker. 772 00:38:56,726 --> 00:38:58,660 Mark Twitchell's real life-diary, 773 00:38:58,694 --> 00:39:01,329 detailing his descent into the world of murder. 774 00:39:01,363 --> 00:39:03,731 Facebook page shows him to be a huge fan 775 00:39:03,766 --> 00:39:05,567 of the television show Dexter. 776 00:39:05,601 --> 00:39:07,569 He bears an eerie physical resemblance 777 00:39:07,603 --> 00:39:09,203 to the main character... 778 00:39:09,238 --> 00:39:10,605 ...where the gruesome writings 779 00:39:10,639 --> 00:39:13,575 of how a man was lured to a garage to meet a date. 780 00:39:13,609 --> 00:39:15,577 We've now arrested him for first degree murder. 781 00:39:15,611 --> 00:39:17,779 So preplanned meditated murder. 782 00:39:17,813 --> 00:39:19,247 And we've got a mountain of evidence. 783 00:39:19,281 --> 00:39:21,883 Everything's tested positive for Johnny's blood. 784 00:39:21,917 --> 00:39:23,918 A strong, strong case. 785 00:39:23,953 --> 00:39:26,654 We found John's blood everywhere. 786 00:39:26,689 --> 00:39:31,826 In your garage, both cars, your house, your clothes. 787 00:39:31,860 --> 00:39:34,062 The evidence is overwhelming. 788 00:39:34,096 --> 00:39:37,699 And we put away guys with five percent of what we have on you, 789 00:39:37,733 --> 00:39:42,136 so thanks for making it easy for us. 790 00:39:42,171 --> 00:39:44,572 We realized from the S.K. Confessions document, 791 00:39:44,607 --> 00:39:46,741 he got rid of the body down a sewer 792 00:39:46,775 --> 00:39:49,477 in an eastern suburb of Edmonton. 793 00:39:49,511 --> 00:39:52,447 So I thought, we'll put him in the car, we'll film him. 794 00:39:52,481 --> 00:39:54,182 Let's take him for a drive 795 00:39:54,216 --> 00:39:56,484 to see if he'll point out the body to us. 796 00:40:00,022 --> 00:40:02,423 We know what you did with Altinger. 797 00:40:02,458 --> 00:40:06,194 We can't do anything about that, but you can do the right thing. 798 00:40:06,228 --> 00:40:09,197 Tell us where you dumped the body. 799 00:40:09,231 --> 00:40:10,898 We weren't going to play on his emotions, 800 00:40:10,933 --> 00:40:13,034 it wasn't going to work. 801 00:40:13,068 --> 00:40:14,969 People like Mark don't care. 802 00:40:18,607 --> 00:40:20,642 Which sewer was it, Mark? 803 00:40:20,676 --> 00:40:22,276 You can end this now. 804 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:26,714 He wouldn't give us anything. 805 00:40:26,749 --> 00:40:28,683 He wouldn't give up the body. 806 00:40:40,829 --> 00:40:46,067 Eighteen months since the murder and out of the blue, 807 00:40:46,101 --> 00:40:48,002 we get a phone call to our office 808 00:40:48,037 --> 00:40:50,304 from Mark Twitchell's lawyer. 809 00:40:50,339 --> 00:40:53,274 It was two blocks from Twitchell's parents' home, 810 00:40:53,308 --> 00:40:55,276 and half a block from a section of sewer 811 00:40:55,310 --> 00:40:58,613 searched exhaustively early in the investigation. 812 00:40:58,647 --> 00:40:59,881 It's been the worst. 813 00:41:01,250 --> 00:41:02,650 It's been the worst. 814 00:41:02,685 --> 00:41:04,786 There's nothing else can be said. 815 00:41:04,820 --> 00:41:07,955 There'll never be closure, but it goes on to the next step, 816 00:41:07,990 --> 00:41:14,862 I think, to start to heal if, if that's possible. 817 00:41:14,897 --> 00:41:17,999 I truly think to this day that Mark Twitchell wanted to know 818 00:41:18,033 --> 00:41:20,535 what it was like to kill someone. 819 00:41:20,569 --> 00:41:24,739 He had his mind made up long before he saw Dexter. 820 00:41:24,773 --> 00:41:27,175 It kind of overshadowed the whole incident, 821 00:41:27,209 --> 00:41:28,609 and it shouldn't have. 822 00:41:33,415 --> 00:41:36,918 John Altinger, he was a good guy. 823 00:41:36,952 --> 00:41:39,353 I've tried my best not to let it affect me, 824 00:41:39,388 --> 00:41:41,989 but I've seen the other side. 825 00:41:42,024 --> 00:41:44,358 And when you see that other side, you do feel sorry, 826 00:41:44,393 --> 00:41:46,394 you have more empathy for these victims' families 827 00:41:46,428 --> 00:41:48,930 and see what it can do to them. It tears them apart. 828 00:41:48,964 --> 00:41:55,279 - Sync and corrections by ByDem - - www.addic7ed.com - 63511

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