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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:09,560 [narrator] In May, 2016 20-year-old Michael Sandford's parents 2 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,920 reported that he had gone missing in America. 3 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,440 Twenty-three days later, 4 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,600 he turned up at a Donald Trump campaign rally in Las Vegas. 5 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,160 [cheering] 6 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,040 I will build a great, great wall. 7 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:38,080 Shortly after Trump took to the stage, Michael approached a police officer. 8 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:51,200 Seconds later, he attempted to grab the officer's gun. 9 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,960 [indistinct police communication] 10 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,960 Are you serious, man, what are you thinking? 11 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,640 [crowd booing] 12 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:06,920 We love our police. 13 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,360 When questioned by the Secret Service, 14 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,520 Michael stated he'd wanted to shoot and kill Trump, 15 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,760 saying he was a racist that deserved to die. 16 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,360 But how did a young British man from Surrey 17 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,080 end up trying to assassinate 18 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:31,160 the most controversial and high-profile man in the world? 19 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:32,960 Donald J. Trump. 20 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,280 [woman] We've always just been a very, very close family unit. 21 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,800 He thought Donald Trump was the worst thing for the world. 22 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,280 [woman] This is not a hardened criminal, 23 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,760 this is just a young kid who found himself in an awful situation. 24 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:50,680 He tried to assassinate. He was a wolf in sheep's clothing. 25 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:55,000 [narrator] Michael is due to be sentenced and could face decades in prison. 26 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:59,680 Michael Sandford could have altered the course of American history. 27 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,800 [narrator] But were these the actions of a boy 28 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,280 with a history of mental health problems? 29 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:08,320 He seemed just a totally different personality from the boy I'd known. 30 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,480 [woman] He's gonna spend his 21st birthday in prison. 31 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,600 Someone who really shouldn't be there. 32 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,640 [narrator] Or was it a premeditated attack? 33 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,760 [man] When Michael was shooting, he was doing this. 34 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,600 Who was he working for? Maybe he got radicalized. 35 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,760 There's nothing I can tell him that will make his situation any better. 36 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,680 And I just want my son back. 37 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,560 [man] I'm telling you that violence is wrong. 38 00:02:36,640 --> 00:02:38,720 I disagree with that. 39 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,760 [phone ringing] 40 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,840 [automated voice] This call is from an inmate facility. 41 00:03:02,920 --> 00:03:06,360 -Hi, son. -[Michael] Hey. 42 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,000 So what have you been up to today so far? 43 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,160 Just all to myself. 44 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,160 Yeah. What have you had to eat today? 45 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,440 Uh, just potatoes. 46 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:21,400 [coughs] So was porridge not for breakfast today? 47 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,720 I dropped it everywhere. 48 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,120 -Oh, that wasn't very clever, was it? -No. 49 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,200 -Is that because you were shaking? -Yeah. 50 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,880 Oh... Have you had any more seizures? 51 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:35,720 Um, a few, yeah. 52 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,400 Hmm. Oh, dear, sorry to hear that. 53 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:50,800 [Lynne] It's very hard to know that he's there and we're so far away from him. 54 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,040 All the calls are recorded and monitored. 55 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,120 It's very impersonal. 56 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,160 Sometimes he begs me not to go and he rings me back again, 57 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,120 he says, "I just want to keep hearing your voice, Mum." 58 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,160 [Lynne on phone] Now we're down to our last minute, aren't we? So... 59 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,120 -I love you very much. -[Michael] I love you, Mum, I miss you. 60 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:20,880 [Lynne] You too, son. Anyway, take care. Look after yourself. 61 00:04:20,959 --> 00:04:23,320 [Michael] You too, take care. I love you so much. 62 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,480 [Lynne] I hope you manage to get something else to eat today. 63 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,760 [Michael] Thank you. I love you, Mum. 64 00:04:28,840 --> 00:04:30,240 I love you, too, darling. 65 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,680 And Jessica does and Nan does and Dad does and Mischief does. 66 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,440 [automated voice] Your time is up. 67 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,560 It cut off, you see. Fifteen minutes, that's all you get. 68 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,800 I feel weary. 69 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,840 It's just the same everyday. A phone call, 70 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:52,600 I ask him what he's done and the answers are always the same. 71 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:57,120 What he's had to eat... You know, it's not a life. 72 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,960 It's barely an existence for him out there at the moment. 73 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,920 Just knowing that he is where he is 74 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:09,680 and I'm powerless to do anything about it is impossibly hard. 75 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,200 [narrator] Michael's currently being held in a maximum security prison 76 00:05:20,280 --> 00:05:23,920 in Nevada's Death Valley, while he awaits sentencing. 77 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,440 After admitting trying to kill Trump, 78 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,920 he's entered a plea bargain in a bid to reduce his sentence. 79 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:35,040 But still faces the possibility of a lengthy jail term. 80 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,160 This is one of the most high-profile cases I've dealt with 81 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,880 and certainly it's a very complex case. 82 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,080 The governor will be arguing that this was not something 83 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,360 that was a spur-of-the-moment type of crime. 84 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,040 This was something that had been calculated. 85 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,680 They're going to be arguing that this was in fact a very dangerous situation 86 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,960 and it could have resulted in someone being murdered. 87 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,960 The maximum under the law is 20 years for Michael, 88 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:09,160 so he could be looking at many, many years in prison. 89 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,480 [narrator] Before moving to America, 90 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,400 Michael lived in Surrey with his mum and half sister Jessica. 91 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,160 [Lynne] I think that one's really cute. 92 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,360 It's probably his first ever smile. 93 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,720 None of us had any idea what was ahead for us back then. 94 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:43,160 You know, I sit and I look at these pictures of him as an angelic little boy. 95 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,800 I just think it's so tragic that this is where his life is at, 96 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,800 especially someone who really shouldn't be there. 97 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:03,360 [Lynne] He was very bright and bubbly and cute and sweet and adorable. 98 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:04,760 He was the apple of our eye. 99 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:06,400 Funny. 100 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:11,480 [Lynne] You're doing a funny? Oh, you're doing a happy, smiley face, 101 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:17,000 [Lynne] But I think we first noticed that there might be problems when he was two. 102 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:18,840 He would become quite hysterical 103 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,040 when we would throw quite ordinary things in the rubbish bin. 104 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:26,120 That was the first sign that he had some form of OCD. 105 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:31,000 This, oddly enough, his key collection. 106 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:32,600 He enjoyed collecting keys. 107 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,840 When Michael was about eight, his moods started to change. 108 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,960 They were quite erratic at times, 109 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,440 he seemed to become quite depressive and angry. 110 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,200 -Hello! -Hello! 111 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:52,160 I wondered if... because by then I'd split up with his father. 112 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,960 I wondered if it was some anger at the breakup. 113 00:07:55,040 --> 00:08:00,800 But his mood swings and erratic nature were starting to concern me by then. 114 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:08,480 It says "Michael Sandford: My Autobiography, age 13." 115 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,720 It goes through all the usual things, "My name is Michael Sandford, I'm 13, 116 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,800 I live in Dorking with my mother, budgie and hamster." 117 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:20,600 This bit is... pretty sad. Um... 118 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,280 "I'm wondering what the world is coming to. 119 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:27,040 They say the world will end when the sun blows up in five billion years, 120 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,920 but I believe humans will destroy it long before then." 121 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:38,720 That was something he was very worried about, he was very worried about mankind. 122 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,679 I guess that's been mirrored by what he said about Donald Trump. 123 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,040 He thought Donald Trump was the worst thing for the world. 124 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:51,200 [narrator] When Michael was 13, he was diagnosed with Asperger's, 125 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:55,200 a condition associated with difficulties in social interaction. 126 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:57,600 [Lynne] He was just falling apart. 127 00:08:57,680 --> 00:09:03,120 He was losing his grip on the world, not knowing how to fit in or cope. 128 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,040 [narrator] At secondary school, he was bullied. 129 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:11,000 He deliberately tried to run out in front of cars sometimes 130 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,600 in the hope he would get knocked over to avoid going to school. 131 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,440 I very much feel the system failed Michael. 132 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,080 I took him for help so many times over so many years 133 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,960 and nobody did anything until it became almost too late. 134 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:34,280 [narrator] Aged 14, Michael developed severe anorexia as a result of his OCD 135 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,960 and had to be sectioned to a psychiatric hospital. 136 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:42,120 [Lynne] He had said, you know, life isn't worth living. I find it too hard. 137 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:46,040 I was really frightened that I was going to lose him. I was terrified. 138 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,120 [Lynne] Off you go. 139 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:50,720 Bye! 140 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,280 -[man] What are you drawing? -A rainbow. 141 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:06,840 -[man] Who's that for? -Michael, because I love him. 142 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,760 He's very nice and good. 143 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:18,840 And he wasn't very well a long time ago and he did something wrong. 144 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,280 So that's why he's in there now. 145 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:30,480 [narrator] Michael's parents separated when he was five years old, 146 00:10:30,560 --> 00:10:34,000 but he has always remained close to his dad, Paul. 147 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:47,040 [Paul] We all know our children and we all know their personalities. 148 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:48,720 If you're honest with yourself, 149 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:53,160 you know whether somebody has the potential to do something like that, 150 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:54,840 or not. 151 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,840 He's never shouted, he's never screamed at me. 152 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:03,360 That violent aspect of some kids' natures just wasn't there with Michael. 153 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:09,280 [narrator] Michael had never shown any interest in politics, at home or abroad. 154 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:14,080 But Paul noticed a significant change when visiting him in prison, 155 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:15,520 following his arrest. 156 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,480 [Paul] He seemed very politicized, very radical. 157 00:11:20,560 --> 00:11:26,880 Very logical but very highly motivated about Mr. Trump 158 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:31,080 and the effect that he may have on the American people. 159 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,680 Just a totally different personality from the boy I'd known. 160 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,800 Um... I've got a little box with all his memories here. 161 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,000 So all things like the newspaper cuttings from before. 162 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,800 Obviously newspaper cuttings from now. 163 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,600 [man] Has he not told you why he did it or what was going through his head? 164 00:11:49,680 --> 00:11:54,080 [Paul] No... I mean it's very difficult for him to say anything to us. 165 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,320 Everything he says and does is monitored. 166 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,760 He will tell us all about it all, I hope, when he's back at home, 167 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:03,520 but at the moment he's not told us anything, really. 168 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:09,120 I mean, I think... although it's quite a morbid thing to do, 169 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:13,280 when Michael comes out, I'm sure he's going to be quite interested 170 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,240 in the news coverage from back home. 171 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,840 [man] Why do you think he did it? 172 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,000 The only thing I can possibly think of 173 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:27,720 is he's been coerced, groomed, whatever word you'd like to use. 174 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:33,120 I mean, whether it was a structured group 175 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,720 or whether it was just a few people with a political agenda to kill Donald Trump, 176 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,000 I don't know. 177 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:44,320 Asperger's can make you look at things very black and white. 178 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:48,400 I think they saw Michael and saw he was vulnerable. 179 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:54,720 I think they saw a way to coerce him into doing what they wanted him to do. 180 00:12:56,200 --> 00:13:02,720 I think whoever he was with has given him ideas, because he wasn't my Michael. 181 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:10,400 [narrator] Aged 18, Michael told his parents he was planning to move to America 182 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,160 to be with a girlfriend he'd met online. 183 00:13:13,680 --> 00:13:17,640 [Lynne] He just wanted to spread his wings, have a bit of independence, 184 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,240 and attempt to lead a normal life. 185 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:26,600 He said he had to go or he would attempt suicide again. 186 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,120 He's 18, he's an adult. 187 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,320 He's a vulnerable adult, but you can't stop him doing anything. 188 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,440 [narrator] Michael's family used inheritance money 189 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:46,200 to pay for a year's rent on a flat in Hoboken, overlooking New York. 190 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:53,280 He was the smallest, skinniest person I'd ever met. 191 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,360 The most polite person that I'd ever met. 192 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,160 Michael never mentioned any girl to me, or friends or anybody. 193 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,160 As a matter of fact, I think I recall him saying he knew nobody here. 194 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,400 If Michael moved to Hoboken for other reasons, I don't know. 195 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,600 It does make you start to wonder. 196 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,160 [Lynne] Initially, we heard from Michael all the time. 197 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,040 But his behavior became erratic. 198 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,680 Sometimes we'd hear from him, sometimes we wouldn't. 199 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,760 He turned very nasty at one point. 200 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:36,160 He said to me, "You've no idea how much I hate, loathe and despise you." 201 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,320 And that was the final straw for me. 202 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,880 I said to him, "Who is putting these thoughts in your mind?" 203 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,480 Because he'd always been so loving. 204 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:55,680 [narrator] On 26 May 2016, having lost all contact with Michael, 205 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,920 Lynne reported him missing to the authorities. 206 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,080 [Lynne] I was worried out my mind. 207 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,000 I could only see it ending in a disaster. 208 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:09,000 [narrator] During this period, police now believe he'd been living out of a BMW 209 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,800 bought using the money he'd been given for rent. 210 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,280 Michael didn't surface again until the day of his arrest. 211 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,000 [newsreader] Our headlines this morning: 212 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,760 Donald Trump is celebrating his astonishing victory... 213 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,720 [narrator] Five weeks before Michael is due to be sentenced, 214 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,320 Donald Trump's remarkable rise to the White House is confirmed. 215 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,120 [newsreader] The Republican businessman defeated his Democratic rival, 216 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:42,360 scoring decisive victories... 217 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,000 [newsreader 2] ...confounded the pollsters and media pundits who predicted... 218 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,400 [newsreader 3] So what will the rest of the world make of these seismic events 219 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,200 that took place overnight in America? 220 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,120 We're going to get the view from London... 221 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,960 [Lynne] I was up all night watching the results. 222 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,360 I t's obviously only been announced in the last hour or so. 223 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,120 There's no getting away from it now. 224 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,880 I mean, he is going to be President for the next four years 225 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,080 and, like it or lump it, we've got to get on with it. 226 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,040 [narrator] It's a result that could have an impact 227 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,400 on the length of Michael's jail term. 228 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,520 We have sentencing coming up next month 229 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,520 and whether Donald Trump will choose to make an example of Michael 230 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:22,920 remains to be seen. 231 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,600 -Thank you. -[crowd chanting "USA"] 232 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,800 Thank you very much, everybody. 233 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,960 He was looking forward to sentencing 234 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,560 and hoping that there might be a favorable outcome 235 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:36,000 but I think this result casts a potentially very big shadow over that. 236 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,560 Now it's time for America to... 237 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,160 I'm very worried that he will either lose his mind completely 238 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,280 or commit suicide if he had the opportunity. 239 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:54,200 It just made everything so much harder and so much more complicated for Michael. 240 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:00,360 For those who have chosen not to support me in the past, 241 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,320 of which there were a few people... 242 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:03,640 [laughter] 243 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,839 [Lynne] I feel powerless. 244 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:12,040 You know, I want to be able to keep him strong and to give him hope, 245 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,560 but a lot of that hope was dashed last night with the outcome of this. 246 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,240 And it's made the future so much more uncertain for him. 247 00:17:19,319 --> 00:17:20,520 [newsreader] ...political experience, 248 00:17:20,599 --> 00:17:24,839 and one who's just caused the biggest political upset in American history. 249 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,160 [narrator] Michael is being kept in solitary confinement 250 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,320 and gets most of his news from his mum. 251 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,920 [Lynne] Have you heard about the election results? 252 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,040 [Michael] No, not yet. 253 00:17:41,120 --> 00:17:45,760 [Lynne] You haven't, OK. Well, Donald Trump did get it in the end. 254 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,120 -So... -[Michael] Well, I guess I'm happy for him 255 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,520 and it's America's choice so I guess I have to respect that. 256 00:17:53,760 --> 00:18:00,280 [Lynne] I realize in many ways a bad situation just got worse for you but... 257 00:18:00,360 --> 00:18:01,680 [Michael] Yeah, I think it did. 258 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,280 [Lynne] But you do understand that what you attempted to do wasn't right, 259 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:07,520 -don't you? -[Michael] Oh, of course, absolutely. 260 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,760 I'd never choose to do that, I'd never choose to hurt anyone. 261 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:12,840 [Lynne] I know that, Michael. 262 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,680 [automated voice] You have one minute remaining. 263 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,560 [Lynne, to camera] Michael has now reverted back to being 264 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,040 the loving son he always has. 265 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,640 He sent us letters and cards 266 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,800 and drawings that he's done. 267 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:37,640 And every time he says, "I love you, I love you, I miss you, I need you." 268 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,160 [man] "Tears are streaming down my face as I write this. 269 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:46,160 I miss you all and I love you all more than words can explain. 270 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,400 I'm so alone, cold and scared here. 271 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,640 I feel awful about the way I've treated you all. 272 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,000 Mum, I will be the son that you deserve. 273 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,440 I'm so scared, I need you all." 274 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:16,880 [Paul] When Michael did move out to America, I redecorated my bedroom. 275 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,800 Just got me thinking about him a bit more I guess. 276 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,480 [narrator] Paul is flying out to join Lynne in Las Vegas, 277 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,680 ahead of Michael's sentencing. 278 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,680 [Paul] It's been ten years probably since I've been abroad. 279 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,720 He needs that support, and with that support he will be alright. 280 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,920 [narrator] Michael's mental health has deteriorated 281 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,920 since Trump was confirmed as the President-Elect 282 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,880 and he's been placed on suicide watch. 283 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,040 [Paul] He's become quite depressed 284 00:19:46,120 --> 00:19:49,160 and now I think he just wants to get the sentencing over and done with 285 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,480 so at least he'll know what's happening with him. 286 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:56,080 We hope it's gonna be OK, we hope they take in account Michael's conditions 287 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,640 but we have been told that it's not something 288 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,320 the American system really tends to look into. 289 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:12,480 He is flesh and blood. He is my boy and he's lonely and scared. 290 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,640 I mean, he's got no family out there. He's got nobody to see him. 291 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:20,880 He's in a prison where there are lifers who support Trump. 292 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,920 They've got nothing to lose, really. 293 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,000 I still lie awake at night a lot of the time expecting that phone call 294 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:27,680 saying there's been an incident, 295 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,840 something's happened in the detention center. 296 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:36,200 To be honest, I'm really worried somebody is going to try to kill him. I really am. 297 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,320 I've started on sleeping pills and antidepressants 298 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,160 because there's been a number of nights 299 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,920 where I haven't slept for two or three nights in a row. And... 300 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,600 Obviously then you start to get really down and tired. 301 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:57,080 I've got to do it for Michael. You just get over it and get it done with. 302 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,080 I'm trying to get my son home. 303 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,680 [narrator] With Michael's sentencing just days away, 304 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,200 his legal team are putting the final touches to their case. 305 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,440 We put together... I asked Lynne to send me a bunch of pictures, 306 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,320 so we need to call the court later on and make sure that we can play these 307 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,600 while we're arguing for sentencing. 308 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:27,120 The other problem is the control we have over what happens to him 309 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,720 when he's in prison is fairy minimal, but the control we do have 310 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,200 is to limit the amount of time that he needs to spend there. 311 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,760 [narrator] Michael's plea bargain means he's pleaded guilty 312 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,520 to impeding and disrupting government business 313 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,840 and being an illegal alien in possession of a firearm. 314 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,160 The reality is that you have Michael admitting 315 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:50,440 that he tried to assassinate what is now President-Elect Trump. 316 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,960 [narrator] He could face up to 20 years in jail, 317 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,720 unless his defense team are successful in proving 318 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,680 he was suffering from a psychotic episode. 319 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,680 Frankly, I don't think that that was Michael Sandford. 320 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:06,880 That's not the Michael that I've come to know in the last few months. 321 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:11,680 But that's the Michael that the government is going to be portraying at sentencing, 322 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,200 I think that Michael has suffered from 323 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,880 a variety of different mental health conditions 324 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:21,360 and what he said and what he did was really not him 325 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,520 but a condition that needs to be treated. 326 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,200 The arguments are ready, everything has been filed, 327 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,480 so I think right now is just really a matter of just wait and see. 328 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:39,560 [narrator] On his arrest, the Secret Service conducted a thorough investigation 329 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,080 tracking Michael's movements leading up to his assassination attempt. 330 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,680 In the boot of his car, detectives found the used target 331 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:52,240 that led them to a firing range less than a mile from where the rally took place. 332 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:04,280 It's gonna be really loud, that's why we're gonna wear all your protection. 333 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,960 [narrator] Michael attended the shooting range the day before the rally. 334 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,160 He would later tell detectives 335 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,480 that he'd considered buying a rifle to shoot Trump from long distance, 336 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,520 but claimed he was unable to acquire one. 337 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,920 [Josh] This is the Glock 17 that Michael shot. 338 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:30,400 We're gonna load it into the magazine, and then we're just gonna... 339 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,080 slide goes forward, ready to go. 340 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:37,040 [narrator] Josh was the range safety officer that attended to Michael. 341 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:42,160 [Josh] Honestly, there was nothing off of him when he came in. 342 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,240 He shot 20 rounds. 343 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:50,080 He was shy, he was nervous, just like any other customer. 344 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,280 But I would have never thought that he was practicing for an assassination. 345 00:23:55,320 --> 00:24:00,360 Glock 17s are standard issue for law enforcement here in this country. 346 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,240 An experienced shooter, they don't anticipate the rounds, 347 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,800 you don't shoot down, you're pretty much just keeping that gun forward, 348 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,640 which will look something like this. 349 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,160 You're forward... 350 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,200 [gunshot] 351 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,240 When Michael was shooting, I'll see if I can get it right... 352 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,120 I'm gonna miss on purpose. He was doing this. 353 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:29,880 He was shooting the ground. 354 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,640 He was not a good shot, just like any other shooter who has never shot 355 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,840 and has adrenaline kicking in, is really nervous. 356 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,760 They usually shoot really low because you're flinching, you're so nervous. 357 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,640 He was an ordinary customer. He seemed like a good kid actually. 358 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:51,200 You know, he... Like, he had innocence, like he couldn't hurt a fly or anything. 359 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,600 He seemed like a really nice guy, you know. 360 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:13,960 [narrator] After a ten-hour flight, 361 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,400 Paul has arrived in Las Vegas for Michael's sentencing. 362 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,600 He is meeting Lynne and the rest of Michael's family at the airport. 363 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,120 Quite nervous about everything now. 364 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,480 I can feel myself getting more and more nervous 365 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,960 and I'm sure Lynne is gonna be the same. 366 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,800 The nerves will start when she gets in 367 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,760 and then I think, as the day progresses, thinking about tomorrow. 368 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:40,160 It's gonna be hard for both of us and I think Lynne is gonna start struggling. 369 00:25:44,360 --> 00:25:46,800 [man] What's your relationship like with Lynne? 370 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:51,680 [Paul] Lynne and I get along really well. We always have done. 371 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,520 Hi, Jessie! Hello! 372 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,000 Even when we split up, we got on quite well. 373 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,440 That's one of the things with the issues you get with Michael, 374 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,680 it does bring you together, you haven't got the choice. 375 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,800 -Hiya, Paul. Alright? -Hiya. 376 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:10,000 You've got to be there for Michael, you've got to work together for Michael. 377 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,800 The car's out this way. It's Level 1, the car park at the back. 378 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,480 Right... 379 00:26:17,360 --> 00:26:21,040 [Lynne] There we go. One big family, Jessica, eh? 380 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,360 [Lynne] This is where it all happened, Treasure Island. 381 00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:38,880 [Paul] So how've you been then? Alright? 382 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:43,040 [Lynne] Yeah, it's been hard, you know. Really, really tiring and stressful. 383 00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:46,480 -Are you sleeping any better? -No. Nor eating better. 384 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,240 [Paul] At least we'll have some sort of closure for tomorrow. 385 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,240 It's been a long time coming, hasn't it? 386 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,880 I know it's being weighing hard on Michael. 387 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,000 Just the waiting and not knowing. 388 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,760 [Lynne] Jessica, do you remember where I said that we're gonna go tomorrow? 389 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:06,920 Court. 390 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,480 [Lynne] That's right, yeah. Who's going to be at the court and why are we there? 391 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:18,080 Michael! We have to find out how long he has to stay there again. 392 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,080 [Lynne] That's right, yeah. So there's gonna be a special person. 393 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,360 -The judge. -[Lynne] The judge, that's right. 394 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,000 And he is gonna listen to lots of things about Michael 395 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,960 and decide how much longer Michael has to stay here, isn't he? 396 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:36,200 I'm a bit nervous of the judge because I'm never seen him before. 397 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,600 [Lynne] No. Do you think you can be on your best behavior? 398 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:40,480 Yes! 399 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,000 And of course Michael would like to see how well you can behave as well. 400 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,880 What would you like to say to Michael if you get the chance? 401 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,640 -I love you. -[Lynne] Aww. 402 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,080 -You alright? -[Lynne] Yeah. 403 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,240 [Lynne, on phone] Hi, son, how are you? 404 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,280 [Michael] Alright, I just spoke to Brenda. 405 00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:08,680 [Lynne] OK, did you? What did she have to say? 406 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,640 [Michael] Just that I will be allowed to make a statement in court. 407 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,640 [Lynne] Yeah, well, at least you get to have your say, anyway. 408 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,840 -Are you gonna read it to me? -[Michael] You want me to read it to you? 409 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,040 [Lynne] Yes, please. 410 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,400 [Michael] I would like to take this opportunity 411 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,320 to apologize to everyone involved. 412 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:32,280 I feel terrible and awful about what I did and I am extremely ashamed of myself. 413 00:28:32,360 --> 00:28:36,040 I am not a violent person and I do not wish to harm or hurt anyone. 414 00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:38,400 When we get in, it's bed for you, Jessica. 415 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,800 [Michael] I deserve to be in prison for the rest of my life. 416 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,680 However, I would like to ask for mercy 417 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,480 as my bad mental health was the reason for me committing this crime. 418 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,240 I would like to be able to go home, 419 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,800 so I can be with my family and get the treatment I need. 420 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,640 [Lynne] Mm-hmm. I don't think you should say that you deserve to be in prison 421 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,800 for the rest of your life. Because that's not true. 422 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,360 [Michael] I did try to kill a guy, though, Mum. 423 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:12,080 [Lynne] No, I know but you didn't mean to and you didn't intend to, did you? 424 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,720 [Michael] Alright, I'll take it out. 425 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,600 [Lynne] If the judge is swayed, which he shouldn't be, 426 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,400 by the fact that Donald Trump is now the President-Elect, 427 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:36,040 then obviously he can, you know, give whatever sentence he chooses. 428 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,680 But I just hope that he will see Michael for who he is, 429 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,880 the troubled young man that just made a massive error, 430 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,960 and give him the second chance that he needs and deserves. 431 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,960 And give him, hopefully, the lower sentence. 432 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,640 [man] And do you think that will happen? 433 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,200 Fifty/fifty. 434 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,880 [man] Really, those are the chances you think? 435 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,680 Yeah, mm-hmm. 436 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,200 [man] Have you prepared yourself for the worst? 437 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,280 Um, I think I have, but... 438 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,160 you know, just hearing it is an entirely different ball game. 439 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,760 You can prepare yourself for these things. 440 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,960 But until you're actually faced with them, nobody knows how you're going to react. 441 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,520 And I've tried to prepare Michael, but it's the same thing again. 442 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:39,040 You know, he's been just finding a way through to cope with each day 443 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:44,360 and that is thinking that the judge will let him off with time served 444 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:50,040 and how he's gonna cope with the realization perhaps that's not the case 445 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,880 is just gonna be tremendously difficult. 446 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:21,280 [narrator] Just before midnight, nine hours before the rally was due to start, 447 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,960 Michael made his way to the Treasure Island casino 448 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,360 and took fourth place in the queue. 449 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,880 Gregg Donavan, a staunch Trump supporter, was next in line. 450 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:43,440 I asked this young man, I said, "Would you mind holding my space while I go change?" 451 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,920 He said, "Oh, yeah," and I heard the British accent, I remember. 452 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,480 I was in my full red thing and black top hat 453 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,200 and when he saw it, he seemed kind of repulsed. 454 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,160 I found that odd because I thought he would like it, you know. 455 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,000 He just didn't seem like a regular Trump supporter. 456 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,520 It didn't seem like that, that was my feeling. 457 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,160 [video plays on phone] 458 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,080 I was in fifth row, I got very close to Mr. Trump, 459 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,240 I'm so close to him, look at that. 460 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:23,000 There's something about the rallies, it's just euphoria. 461 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:29,720 Ladies and gentlemen, the next president of the United States, Donald J. Trump. 462 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,520 [cheering] 463 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,120 [narrator] As the auditorium began to fill up, 464 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:42,120 Cole Bartiromo, another Trump fan, took his place in the crowd. 465 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,800 [Cole] The crowds are just so high energy, feeding off his energy. 466 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,280 So passionate, start chanting things over and over again. 467 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,920 Thank you very much. I love you people. 468 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,880 I love Las Vegas! I love this state! 469 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:02,040 [narrator] Thirty seconds into Trump's speech, with all eyes on the stage, 470 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,200 Michael approached a metropolitan patrol officer. 471 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,160 [Trump] ...borders generally that are strong and powerful. 472 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:15,480 We're gonna get rid of Common Core and we're gonna bring our education local. 473 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:18,960 [cheering] 474 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,160 When we get 37 states... 475 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,480 Oh, we love our police. 476 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,040 Thank you. Thank you, officers. 477 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,520 [officer] Are you serious, man, what are you thinking? 478 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,640 I started filming when I saw guards tackling somebody. 479 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,480 [booing] 480 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,720 [Cole] They were just dragging him out of there like he's a rag doll. 481 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,240 [Trump] Thank you. Thank you, officers. 482 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,480 I was like whoa, what did he do? 483 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,760 [Cole] There is this anger... 484 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,440 -[booing] -[Cole] Boo! Protestors, boo! 485 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,040 [Cole] ...because Michael Sandford 486 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,880 could have altered the course of American history. 487 00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:21,920 Thank you. 488 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,679 [Gregg] He didn't look like a murderer. 489 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,840 He was a wolf in sheep's clothing. 490 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,400 Maybe he got radicalized. 491 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:32,920 [Gregg] Somebody can come in here 492 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,880 and they have the opportunity to kill our future president of the United States. 493 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,000 [Trump] That's very nice, thank you. 494 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,880 I think you have to send a strong message, Donald Trump style. 495 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,800 [Cole] The judge has to give him the maximum. 496 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,760 [narrator] On his arrest, Michael told detectives 497 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,440 that the greater good would be to lose his own life 498 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,760 rather than have Trump as President. 499 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,360 [officer] What makes you special? 500 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,720 [narrator] He stated that it wasn't a cry for help, only the right thing to do. 501 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,960 -[officer] You know what you did, right? -[Michael] Well, yeah. 502 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,560 [officer] Wanna make sure. You do, right? 503 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,200 Yeah. 504 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,120 [narrator] It's the morning of Michael's sentencing. 505 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,640 The family are on their way to meet the legal team for a final briefing. 506 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:47,560 [Brenda] Good morning! How are you? Good to see you! 507 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,680 -Remind me of the name again? -Timmy. 508 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,920 -Timmy! And the other one is? -Tickles. 509 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,080 Tickles, yes! 510 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,600 -How are you, Brenda? -I'm good. Hi, Lynne, good to see you. 511 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,040 -Hi. -It's good to see you. 512 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:04,720 [Brenda] When you see Michael coming into the courtroom, 513 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,000 I don't want you to be surprised, he's going to be shackled, right. 514 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,640 So he's going to have handcuffs and some leg cuffs as well. 515 00:36:11,720 --> 00:36:13,880 The leg cuffs are going to remain on him. 516 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:18,920 He'll be wearing a detainee garb, a jumpsuit of sorts, 517 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,160 So I just don't want you to be shocked by that. 518 00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:24,040 So that's how you're going to see Michael. 519 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,760 [Ryan] Judges do this differently but they'll often hear from both sides. 520 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,280 Sometimes they'll ask questions. 521 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,320 So the judge will often ask the defendant to speak, Michael. 522 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,280 So we would plan on having him talk to the judge. 523 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,840 At the conclusion of this hearing we will know, 524 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,840 the judge will actually announce what Michael's sentence is 525 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:48,160 and he'll give the reasoning as to why he decided to impose a particular sentencing. 526 00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:50,400 So we're hoping for the best, 527 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,000 but of course we don't know what's going to happen. 528 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:57,880 He can ultimately impose the sentence that he believes is fair and just. 529 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,920 [narrator] Unless the Republican judge is sympathetic 530 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:09,880 to Michael's mental health disorders, he faces a lengthy jail term. 531 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,520 Michael Sandford is in there now, dressed in an orange jumpsuit. 532 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:15,960 He is tethered at the ankles. 533 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,920 [journalist] His family say that he is someone who's had 534 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,800 a lifetime of mental health issues 535 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,160 and therefore they're asking the court to show some leniency. 536 00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:28,080 That is now in the hands of the judge and we're expecting that verdict 537 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,400 sometime in the next hour. 538 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,280 [Lynne] What's done is done. We can't change what happened. 539 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,520 But my worries are that we won't get him back. 540 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,200 [Paul] Which way are we going? 541 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,640 [Lynne] I think it's just around here, Jessica. 542 00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:46,760 Have you been able to talk with him? 543 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,080 [Lynne] He needs to get psychiatric care. 544 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,280 He needs to be back in the UK. 545 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,520 I don't for one minute think Michael would be in the position he's in now 546 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,280 if he had got the intervention he needed soon enough. 547 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,960 [officer] Where's all the hate come from? 548 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:12,000 [Lynne] I asked for help so many times, but I didn't get it. 549 00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:21,080 [Michael] It's not just an opinion, he is racist. 550 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,200 [officer] I understand that. You think what you're doing is right? 551 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,200 -[Michael] It's justified. -[officer] It's not. 552 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,320 If you want to kill somebody, it makes you wrong. 553 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,680 [Michael] I don't want to hurt any innocent people... 554 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,640 -[continues indistinctly] -[officer] That makes you wrong. 555 00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:35,280 This is America, land of the free, right? 556 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,360 Everybody should be entitled to what they want to say and do, right? 557 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,600 -Well, I mean-- -No, everyone is entitled. 558 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,840 This is America. That's the rule. 559 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,800 Everyone's entitled to say what they want to say. Freedom of speech. 560 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,720 -That doesn't mean it's right-- -You know what 561 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,280 they need to change the constitution. 562 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,800 How would you... [indistinct] 563 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,800 I'm not here to debate. I'm telling you that violence is wrong. 564 00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,160 I disagree with that. 565 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:05,880 [Lynne] There is life for him the other side of this, whenever that may be 566 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,520 I know that although he attempted to do a bad thing, he's not a bad person. 567 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,080 And I know we have to get him back. 568 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,200 [chatter] 569 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,960 [man] Can I ask you one thing? 570 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,360 Tell us about the sentencing. 571 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:33,360 [Ryan] The judge recognized that the unique circumstances 572 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,920 justified a sentence below the usual sentencing guidelines. 573 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,240 The important thing is he wants to go home. 574 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,240 He wants to go home as soon as he can. 575 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:48,480 The light is at the end of the tunnel here, so he's happy about that. 576 00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,400 [narrator] The prosecution argued that Michael, by his own admission, 577 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,160 had planned to carry out the attack for over a year. 578 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,560 But the judge was sympathetic to his mental health 579 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:16,520 and handed down a shorter than expected sentence of 12 months and a day. 580 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,360 [Lynne] Was it good to see Michael? 581 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,520 He was so frightened in court, you know. 582 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:29,400 He was shaking really badly, um, he was choked when he spoke to the judge, 583 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,480 he was breaking down. 584 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,560 And I just feel like a weight has been lifted off my shoulders, 585 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,720 all the uncertainty and worry of the last few months, 586 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,680 and now to know that it's such a relatively short time still to go 587 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:46,600 before we get him back is just... I'm just bubbling with joy inside. 588 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,120 [Paul] I'm quite glad to see you smile. 589 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,760 I haven't had a lot to smile about for quite a long time. 590 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,440 [Paul] He apologized to the judge for what he had done 591 00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,800 and for wasting people's time. 592 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,000 The judge turned around and said you've got nothing to be sorry for. 593 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,720 I'm sorry. 594 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,120 Um... 595 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,560 He said you've got a condition. 596 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,960 If it had been a heart condition, he would take medication for it 597 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,160 and nobody would think anything about it. 598 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,200 [Lynne] Wave! 599 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,320 He said it's nothing to be ashamed of. 600 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,560 [Lynne] The judge realized what everybody else has always said about him. 601 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,920 [Michael] I'm just so ashamed at what I did 602 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,000 and I just feel awful about it, I really do. 603 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,920 It could have been far worse, 604 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:23,480 so I guess I just have to be grateful that it is how it is and no one got hurt. 605 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,640 I just hope to be able to get treatment for the mental health issues I have 606 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,040 and just continue with regular, normal life. 52430

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