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Ready?

Action.

Cut! Great job!

(Song Geu Rim)

Good work today.

That hurts.

What's wrong with you?

Will taking you home do?

The drama world is repaying the drama world,

so let's call it even.

And don't follow me around anymore.

Okay?

I'll never do radio.

Forget it. I'll go alone even if I have to crawl.

Put me down!

I said to put me down.

Do you hate me that much?

Why?

Or do you hate the radio that much? Why?

What do you hate so much?

Why must I tell you that?

You tripped me on purpose four years ago...

at the charity ball, didn't you?

Do you think I'm stupid?

You say things to anger me...

and start fights with me.

What did I do to you?

What's your problem?

Where are we going?

Let me off.

I'm not going to the hospital.

How can you ignore me at a time like this?

Wait...

How did you know I live here?

How did you know I live here?

- Get out. - How did you know?

Do you need me to carry you out again?

Are you not getting out...

because you want me to hold you again?

Ji Soo Ho.

You can't just disappear from a shoot like that.

What about your schedule?

You have to tell me if you're leaving.

It doesn't matter if it's 2 minutes or 2 hours,

you would be considered missing to us.

Did you drive that girl home?

You can go now.

I took care of the commercial shoot.

You never acted like this before...

Mr. Kim.

I told you that you can go with a smile.

- What is this? - Open the door.

(Visiting system, I can hold my tongue)

Ji Soo Ho.

What is this?

Do you have fans stalking you?

If you don't open up,

I could make a scene out here.

Who is this guy?

I'll get rid of him.

I told you to go.

Who are you?

I'm Ji Soo Ho's manager.

All right. Excuse me.

Maybe I should be your manager.

Why do you have so much stuff?

I'm going to live here.

I entered medical school...

as a top student and graduated with top scores.

Did you know that?

You won't get your treatment...

nor come in for consultation.

You won't listen to me, so...

So?

I will follow you around 24 hours a day.

You're in for trouble.

I'm hungry. Do you have any food?

That sounds like fun.

Do I get to take writers to hotels too?

I never came here with a writer before.

Why are you up in my face?

Pardon?

Why do you...

keep showing up in front of me?

Gosh, that Ji Soo Ho...

Song Geu Rim?

Yes.

I think they're trying to recruit Soo Ho...

as their radio DJ.

She would chase him around during the shoot.

He missed his shoot for a commercial...

because he drove her home.

Get to the point.

What does Soo Ho think?

I'm not sure yet,

but I think he could be interested.

Soo Ho doesn't have a phone or a manager.

That's why I asked you to follow him around.

However, you're always...

disappointing me.

(Jin Tae Ri)

You're dismissed.

Okay.

Ms. Nam!

Are there any updates regarding the contract...

with Ji Soo Ho we talked about before?

I'm with some reporters right now,

and I'm itching to talk.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

What is this?

Hey.

I always had Ms. Choi do my hair for years.

Can someone explain to me...

why a rookie is touching my hair?

I'll do it properly.

Stop touching my hair.

I told you to get Ms. Choi here.

Yes, thank you.

Gosh. Hello, Tae Ri.

I've been watching your 5pm drama.

Hey!

I'm your senior, but you didn't say hello.

I came out to get your greeting.

Do you have a problem recognizing faces?

Or maybe you never had a television at home.

Don't you know how much earlier...

I debuted before you...

and appeared on television?

What is she talking about?

Hey. Listen.

Do you want to give me a proper hello,

or do you want to get your hair ripped out...

and get your name in the headlines with me?

Hey.

If you don't say hello again next time,

I'll really pull your hair out. Okay?

Mr. Lee.

Why did you ask me to come here?

What happened to your foot?

Well...

Something happened.

Mr. Lee...

Come in.

- This desk is for you. - Pardon?

Your desk is gone because you got fired.

I used to send in a lot of postcards too.

Isn't this place nice?

Yes.

It's nice, but...

What about Ji Soo Ho?

Well...

I should talk to you about him.

Mr. Lee, I have something to tell you.

Let's talk outside.

I met with Ji Soo Ho,

and he's not a good fit for radio.

There are candidates better than him.

We don't even have a concept yet.

We can't cast a DJ...

to find out later he doesn't fit our theme.

Are you saying he said no?

No, that's not what I mean.

How is Oh Ji Soo?

She's really hot these days.

So he won't do it?

I mean...

Why does it have to be Ji Soo Ho?

I was trying not to go this far,

but Ji Soo Ho is completely crazy.

That's okay. I'm more crazy.

But...

Ji Soo Ho...

doesn't look like a radio person, does he?

I think he would totally look down on us.

How did you know?

Geu Rim.

He's the most unlikely person...

to become friendly with radio.

Isn't that something we should make happen?

I have one more reason,

but I'll tell you once you recruit him.

Are you serious?

What do I do?

(Dear Moon Sung Woo...)

If you're fired, go away.

Come on, don't be like that.

Why are you playing hard to get?

What are you so dying to talk to me about?

You have been a DJ for 30 years.

You persuaded listeners all over the world.

You're a radio star who lasted for so long.

That's why you should tell me.

Tell you what?

How to persuade someone that hates radios.

You made me into a writer. You can't ignore me now.

Don't blame it on me.

It's true.

My mom and I have been your fans for 10 years.

Look. I probably sent...

over 100 postcards to your show.

I learned Korean and music through your show.

I even learned life and writing.

Then why are you so bad at writing?

What is it that you want me to do?

How can I help you recruit Ji Soo Ho?

Mom and I got through hard times thanks to you.

Just like how you convinced me,

tell me how I can convince Ji Soo Ho...

I was convinced by radio not because...

of a strategy but due to sincerity.

I'll get going.

Thank you. I love you.

Do you still not want a phone?

If you don't want a manager,

how about a secretary?

It wouldn't be my secretary but yours.

Whichever.

I don't need one.

Then should I fire Mr. Kim too?

I hired him because you wanted him.

However, you are turning Mr. Kim into a scarecrow.

We'll talk about business now.

(Documentary film production proposal)

They want to shoot a film about our family.

The director is Kim Sang Soo.

We will handle all product placement and marketing.

I thought we did enough. Must we sell ourselves?

Of course.

Just walking and breathing can get you money.

You must know how much it would be in a year.

I won't do it.

You missed a schedule last night.

It cost a lot to stop articles ruining our name.

I didn't want to bring this up.

It's your birthday next month.

I'm giving you an early birthday present...

since it's getting cold.

Son.

Didn't I tell you?

What you're good at, what you're bad at,

and what you just do...

Even breathing...

could harm me.

I'll set the meeting with the director next week.

We'll follow our script as always.

I won't do it.

I don't think I can smile in front of the cameras...

running around me for 24 hours.

Your dad went to a shoot overseas.

We'll have a party on our own.

Okay.

The candles are dripping. Hurry and blow them out.

Happy birthday.

Soo Ho.

I have something to say for your birthday.

You are not...

my son.

So, what you're good at,

what you're bad at, what you just do,

and even your breathing...

Make sure none of it bothers me.

You have to do a good job, okay?

Doc.

Hey, Doc.

- Yes, Patient? - Give me sleeping pills.

Declined.

If you get consultation, I will prescribe you.

I have insomnia.

No, it's depression.

All celebrities have it.

We're always shooting late and acting new characters.

We're so stressed from being exposed...

- to the public. - Patient.

Do you cry these days?

How many times have I told you?

Whether you cry because you're happy,

sad, or frustrated, I will only prescribe you...

the pills when you cry.

You're always putting on a fake smile.

This is my last warning.

No treatment, no prescriptions.

I mean it.

Is this JH Entertainment?

I'm a radio writer named Song Geu Rim.

I contacted you in regards to casting Ji Soo Ho.

I want to meet with the CEO for the request.

She's in a meeting right now.

When will she finish her meeting?

I'm afraid I cannot tell you. Goodbye.

Wait. I...

Why can't she tell me?

Hello, I'm Song Geu Rim. I called you earlier.

Could I meet with the CEO?

Or maybe Ji Soo Ho's manager...

You need an appointment.

Don't be like that. I'm really a radio writer.

Have you heard of Mi Nu's Happy 6pm?

You still need to make an appointment.

How can I meet them...

if they won't let me set up a meeting?

I'll just wait over there until Ms. Nam has time.

Is that okay?

I'll hear you out on the way.

Well, the thing is...

You came yet again today,

to cast me.

I'll hear you out, so talk.

Be patient, Geu Rim.

Just this once.

Okay.

Then why don't we go to a cafe and talk...

No, I don't have time.

I'll listen during the 30-minute ride home.

Sure, sure.

I'll drive you safely to your house.

I have a commercial driver's license.

I've been picking up and dropping off...

our DJs and guests...

and am a seasoned driver thanks to that.

You can trust me.

Excuse me.

Here. Would you please take a look?

I made this to introduce...

- the radio... - So?

What was your biggest show?

- Nothing yet. - Did you win any awards?

None.

Where can I see your work?

Well...

If you agree to be our DJ,

it'll be my first time being the main writer.

Does the radio pay more?

- Does it make the news? - Sorry?

Name one benefit it has...

over being on camera.

Do you know how much I get per episode of a drama?

Do you know how much it calculates to...

in an entire year?

Thank you.

You have nothing else to say, right?

I gave you plenty of opportunities,

but you couldn't convince me.

Two Best Actor awards at the Cheongryong Awards.

You won an acting award for your drama too.

You're in every other commercial on TV.

You sell cell phones over and over,

and even beer.

That's why I took notes on your career,

and you're going down the wrong path.

- So? - So,

the radio is the answer.

Take off that fancy mask,

and show them who you really are.

This is the time for you to start a new chapter...

in your life. I firmly believe that.

Soo Ho.

You've been surrounded by cameras for 15 years.

There are no cameras in radio.

That's why it won't pay or make the news...

as much as TV.

There are no flashes going off in the booth.

There's no set script either.

But Soo Ho.

That's why this will be very good for you.

That's why...

I really want to introduce the radio to you.

Give me the car keys.

Yes. Here.

Goodbye.

Just a minute.

Please look through this just once.

Just five minutes.

Watch this for five minutes,

and listen to the radio for 50 minutes.

Please seriously think it over for five days.

Please?

Ms. Song Geu Rim.

Yes?

How long have you been in this industry?

- How do you not know? - Sorry?

I said I'd never go on the stupid radio,

and to please not show up...

at shoots, my agency, or anywhere.

I was trying to say it nicely out of kindness.

Do you not get it when spoken to nicely?

On top of that,

why do you make me say it like this?

I'll say it one more time.

Stop getting up in my face.

Stop showing up. Please.

I'll never go on the stupid radio.

Excuse me, Soo Ho.

"The stupid radio"?

What's "the stupid radio"?

Why are you putting "stupid" before "radio"?

Have you ever...

once stepped foot inside a radio booth?

Have you ever properly listened to the radio?

From now on,

I'll teach you what radio really is...

so that you can never say something like that.

You'll see how it'll change your life.

I won't show up and be up in your face anymore.

I'll always be next to you and now "show up".

Do you understand?

So,

I'll have to keep following you around.

Okay then.

I'll see you tomorrow and every day thereafter.

How dare you disrespect the radio?

You can disrespect me,

but you can't disrespect the radio.

[VIU Ver] KBS2 E02 Radio Romance "Doctor & Patient" -♥ Ruo Xi ♥-

Ji Soo Ho, that jerk.

I mean,

how could he disrespect the radio like that?

That's not right, is it?

Was Ji Soo Ho that big a jerk?

Well, it's not like he was a big jerk...

I'm sure this brat went off at him.

It's so obvious.

Of course.

What now?

Did you really think you could win him over?

- Really? - No way.

Well, I thought...

if I was sincere,

he'd appreciate that sincerity.

It was a beautiful thought.

Sincerity?

Geu Rim, I think...

you should...

give up and call Ms. La.

Ask her to make you assistant writer...

for her next show.

But...

I can't back off...

after being treated like that.

Ji Soo Ho.

(Sun runs into Dan Hwi and has to deceive him.)

Patient. Come eat.

Give it back.

("Rainy Day")

Come on.

You couldn't sleep last night...

and stayed up, didn't you, my depression patient?

I prepared foods that help you sleep.

Just give me sleeping pills.

No.

I'm looking for a cure other than meds.

Doc.

If I stay up all night again...

because you won't give me meds,

what do I do at the shoot tomorrow?

That would be great.

I'd love to see you get sleepy.

So? What must I do to continue acting...

without taking meds?

Well, first,

eat this. And...

tell me how you feel.

Let's get past stage one of your treatment.

How I feel?

You said you knew without my saying it.

That's why I called you here,

paying five times your salary.

I was pulling your leg.

How could I know if you don't tell me?

I'm not your creator.

Hey, I spent a lot of time cooking this.

Darn it. I failed again. Again.

Darn it.

It's so salty.

So why did you call...

seven times?

Why didn't you answer,

when you knew I called seven times?

That's why I came.

But...

you've aged.

The make-up doesn't suit your age.

That's none of your business.

Does your stylist actually do her job?

I won't complain about you fooling around...

with actresses, but please stay away from staff.

So what put you in a bad mood again,

that you called me here?

Your son.

Do you know he's weird?

It would be weird if he wasn't weird.

I'm not joking around.

This is business.

We need to stop it before he gets weirder.

If you want to continue...

living as you do now.

I'm sure you know what I mean.

Move back in for a bit.

You can bring your young lover if you want.

Get out. I have work.

No. Why do you go alone without your manager?

I said to get out. I have a shoot.

I'm going there too.

- What? - I said I'd follow you...

24 hours a day. Let's go.

Let's go.

So,

I'll have to keep following you around.

Okay, then.

I'll see you tomorrow and every day thereafter.

I heard the last shoot was incredible.

Why does that always happen when I'm not here?

But who was that girl?

I heard she was a writer. Did you agree to go on?

Do it for her. Don't you feel bad?

She's a writer, after all. The word's out.

What word?

Song Geu Rim. Lady Kamikaze.

The writer who will do anything to cast you.

Who said that?

That's what the entire crew is saying today.

I feel bad for the girl.

I would've agreed right away if she asked me.

We should call out Lady Kamikaze tonight.

Let's see if she'll throw herself into alcohol too.

Stop getting up in my face.

Stop showing up. Please.

I'll never go on the stupid radio.

Mom.

- Do you know Ji Soo Ho? - Ji Soo Ho?

Who's that?

See?

He isn't that famous. Why is he such a jerk?

He's not even a famous star.

Why? What is it?

Mom. It's always three strikes, right?

That's right. You should always try three times.

You can't quit after trying only once.

I didn't raise my daughter to be like that.

What if I don't succeed after three strikes?

Then you change your principle.

To what?

"There are nine innings in a game."

What if I fail even after nine tries?

Then...

"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again."

You should try again with a long-term plan.

- Right? - Right.

Mom. Whose daughter am I?

This is how well I was taught at home.

That goes without saying.

Then I'll eat well...

and go for my three strikes.

Okay. Good luck.

You can do it.

I agree with what you're saying,

but I think we can get a better shot.

What we have is plenty perfect already.

We took seven takes. Why do you want more?

Look how sweet that is.

Let's invite Lady Kamikaze to our after party.

She's cool.

Let's see if she throws herself into alcohol too.

I've been bored lately. That should be fun.

- Who has her number? - I do. I'll call her.

Okay. Good. Nice.

You'd better be prepared. We'll drink for real.

That should be fun.

Hello, Mr. Jo.

Are you positive Ji Soo Ho will be there tonight?

Yes, he may come. Just come.

You have a Lady Kamikaze fan club here.

Okay.

Text me the address. Thanks.

Yes.

Okay.

There.

- Thank you. - You were great.

- Thank you. - Okay.

- Thank you. - Thank you.

Who are you?

Why did you follow him here?

Don't be so antagonistic.

Let's formally introduce ourselves.

I'm Ji Soo Ho's manager. And you are?

I'm Ji Soo Ho's manager.

Then I'll switch to...

Soo Ho's high school friend slash...

someone with a secret relationship with him.

Come on. Let's shake hands.

Thank you.

Are you really not coming to the after party?

I have plans tomorrow, so I need to leave early.

Come on, Soo Ho. Go with us.

That writer's coming too.

Come on. Let's play with Lady Kamikaze.

You need to come for her to have fun.

Let's go.

Here.

Here. Drink.

- Here's Lady Kamikaze. - Hello. Hello.

- You look so pretty. - Hello.

Hello, sir.

You're looking good as always.

It's my stunt double. Hi.

Hello.

I brought these for you, Da Seul.

You said you were craving this before.

I searched every candy store in town.

Wow, thanks...

You're super cool, Ms. Song.

Of course. I'm a very cool woman.

So you must be Lady Kamikaze.

I heard you had it rough because of Soo Ho.

I didn't have it rough.

It was crazy hard.

I like you.

Let me pour you a drink.

By the way, when is Ji Soo Ho coming?

I'm not sure.

He's the star, so he'll probably come later.

Are you really going to drink such boring stuff?

Who's Lady Kamikaze?

Who is it, that ever since you heard she was going...

to the after party, you won't talk at all?

Who is Lady Kamikaze?

Mr. Kim. Do you know?

What the...

This is so frustrating!

This silence is killing me!

Darn it.

(Song Geu Rim)

- Kamikaze! - Kamikaze!

- Kamikaze! - Kamikaze!

- Kamikaze! - Wait. Hold on.

If I fill these exactly to the brim...

without overflowing, every actor and actress...

here today will come on my show...

as a guest at some point when I ask, right?

- Yes! - Yes!

Pinky swear?

Okay. Here I go.

- Cheers! - Cheers!

Bottoms up. Drink up.

Drink. Drink. Nice.

Ms. Song. Here.

You're a good drinker.

You know,

I can usually drink a lot more than this.

- Excuse me. - Yes?

When is Ji Soo Ho coming?

He said he'll be here soon.

Let's drink. Cheers. Bottoms up.

One more?

Song Geu Rim.

You're not this weak.

You can't let alcohol beat you...

just because Ji Soo Ho beat you.

Hey. Of all things,

soju bombs can't beat me. That hurts my pride.

Come on. Let's go.

What is this extremely strange place?

What is this bed-like thing...

that I've seen only on TV?

Yes. This is a dream.

That's right. It's a dream.

I haven't had a dream in so long.

Ms. Song, do you want to leave with me?

Get up.

Why did you drink so much?

My gosh.

Hold on. Then...

Get it together.

Last night,

Oh Jin Soo helped me up,

and we walked...

and then someone showed up in front of me.

Gosh!

What the...

Keep it down.

What's going on here?

What happened?

I remember up to walking out...

with Oh Jin Soo helping me walk,

but I don't remember anything after that.

Why am I here?

What's going on?

Why did I wake up here?

Did you come late to the after party?

Are you coming in with me?

- Sorry? - I'm going to shower.

Are you coming in with me?

So,

I got wasted last night...

and passed out in the hallway.

Oh Jin Soo helped me up...

and was trying to take me home, but...

I mean,

why did I wake up here?

Soo Ho.

Why am I here?

Please come out already.

Look.

You should at least put on some clothes...

You said to come out.

Still.

You should dry yourself first.

Do you want to take a shower?

Sorry?

Look.

Oh, no.

What...

If you won't shower, get changed.

I'll take you home.

Just what happened last...

Ms. Song.

Should I do the radio show?

Sorry?

Then do something for me.

Your father okayed it.

You'll shoot a movie starting next month.

I have some things to discuss with you...

and notify you.

So you'll have to move home for a while.

It's cold. Let's talk inside.

I'm sure I smiled and said,

"I won't do it."

Sure.

And I smiled and said you will.

Let's go inside.

You talk about staying mysterious...

and ban me from doing other activities,

but I should do anything that makes money.

Will Father's lover also be in that...

real life documentary movie?

Ma'am.

I'm thinking about DJing a radio show.

All I have are commercial after commercial...

and that real life documentary movie.

I don't like a single project coming up.

I was meeting with a radio writer actually.

Explain.

She's a radio writer.

I need some supplemental explanations.

I'm going to sign a contract.

That's why I can't do that real whatever movie...

that you mentioned.

How long?

How long will you play doing radio,

and how long will you play with that girl?

Who knows?

You're good at casting celebrities.

Although I don't know which skill it was.

Excuse me.

"Play"?

What did your mother just say...

Let's go.

Let's talk later.

Excuse me. What did you just say to your mother?

And what did your mother...

just say before she left?

I can't understand, so please explain.

Don't you want me to do the show?

What other explanation do you need?

If you don't want to do it, just leave.

Don't do it if I don't want to?

Are you threatening me?

No. How is this a threat?

Soo Ho. In your fight...

for power with your mother, CEO, or whatever,

you made me look like an easy woman,

and used my show to threaten me.

Then don't do it.

Turn me down. It's not a loss to me.

Seriously...

If it sounds like a threat,

I won't do it. Problem solved.

Plus, this is not a threat.

I'm being sincere.

Can't you please leave?

Soo Ho.

Why do you keep smiling?

Why are you smiling?

This isn't funny.

Why do you keep fake-smiling at me?

You're making me mad!

Then I'll talk without smiling.

Leave. Please.

Bravo.

She must be Song Geu Rim, the Lady Kamikaze.

I wasn't eavesdropping.

You guys were too loud.

Patient.

Do her radio show.

Seeing you like this...

makes me so happy.

Stay still.

Nice.

(Mr. Moon Sung Woo, my name is Song Geu Rim.)

Hello, Soo Ho.

I am Song Geu Rim, a radio writer...

who wants to write the warmest words ever.

I've prepared this video to introduce to you,

the radio, which I love...

so very much.

The postcards I sent in when I was in...

middle school and high school are still up.

I loved the radio and listened every day.

This booth belongs to KBC Radio's legend,

a DJ of 30 years.

Yes. This is the office...

where I write my scripts.

It may look like a storage room,

but it is my writing room.

And here.

Do you see all the scripts that I hope...

you'd read?

Will you please save them?

This is the place I love the most.

My hideout.

Soo Ho.

I'm not a good writer,

and I can't do anything well right now.

But if you say you'd do the radio show with me,

and the words that I write...

are read to the world with your voice,

I may bow down to you that very day.

Does that sound like a threat?

Anyway,

I hope you will...

knock on this door.

Let's do the radio show together.

Hello, Mr. Kang.

Get up here right this instant.

Song Geu Rim will be your main writer?

Hey, Crazy Gang. Have you lost your mind?

Song Geu Rim is a problem too.

Did she say she'll do it?

Did she agree, saying she'll be the main writer?

Okay. Fine.

You're working together to drive me crazy, right?

Geu Rim. Get over here.

Are you really going to be the main writer...

as it says in the proposal?

Mr. Kang. You agreed that I can staff...

Crazy Gang. Don't talk.

I'm trying to save this radio station...

and begged until my hands bled to save you.

Are you trying to say we should die together?

How could you make her the main writer?

She can't write a single script properly.

- What... - Mr. Kang.

You. Don't say another word.

You talk.

Can you really be the main writer?

It says right here, "Main writer,"

"Song Geu Rim."

Can you create a show and write the script well?

Can you?

You now Ms. La, right?

Work with her.

If you really want to work with Geu Rim,

you can use her as an assistant writer.

Ms. La. Is that okay?

She said, "Okay."

I'll work with Geu Rim.

Fine.

As it says in this proposal,

if Ji Soo Ho agrees to do it,

you can be the main writer. You have...

my seal of approval.

So? Did he agree to do it?

Did you even get him to agree?

No, right?

He refuses, right?

Even without Ji Soo Ho, I'm working with Geu Rim.

Hey, Crazy Gang. Where are you going?

Forget coming back to work!

Forget the whole thing, you punk!

Sorry, Ms. La. He'll change his mind.

- It's okay. - Be understanding.

Geu Rim.

Did you really think...

if you got Ji Soo Ho to join,

you could be the main writer?

Wake up, will you, Geu Rim?

Even if you're good at winning over guests...

and at kissing up to people,

if you can't write, you'll go on air...

and humiliate yourself.

You know your limitations, don't you?

I don't know how you got Lee Gang to pick you...

to be the main writer,

but Ji Soo Ho...

Do you really think that's even possible?

Is that why you're here? You think it can happen?

Like Ji Soo Ho would really DJ a radio show.

Geu Rim. I'm saying this...

because I'm concerned for you. I mean it.

Wake up and smell the coffee!

The probability of him becoming a radio DJ...

is much worse than you becoming a main writer.

Got that?

I'll do the radio show.

Let's do the radio show.

(Radio Romance)

Want to be my AD?

Work with me.

You really agreed? Because of Lady Kamikaze?

It wasn't because of her.

He wants to choose the guests and his lines?

How did you know?

I heard we're battling.

This is absurd. A battle?

I'll sign the contract only with Song Geu Rim.

Let me ask one thing.

That's the best thing I've heard. Ask 100.

Why did I agree to go on the radio?

Will you not do it then?