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>> Steve: TONIGHT, JOIN JIMMY AND HIS GUESTS ‐

RUSSELL CROWE. BEN PLATT.

MUSICAL GUEST BRITTANY HOWARD, AND THE LEGENDARY ROOTS CREW

IT'S "THE TONIGHT SHOW" AT HOME EDITION.

♪ >> Steve: AND NOW, HERE'S

JIMMY. >> Jimmy: HI, EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WATCHING OUR SHOW

I'M JIMMY FALLON, WELCOME TO "THE TONIGHT SHOW.

HERE WE GO TIME TO GET SOME NEWS, AND IT

ISN'T GOOD THE DAILY NUMBER OF NEW

CORONAVIRUS CASES IN THE U. S. IS AT ITS HIGHEST LEVEL SINCE

THE PEAK IN APRIL. YUP, APPARENTLY THE RISING

NUMBERS IN AMERICA HAVE FORCED OTHER COUNTRIES TO MAKE A TOUGH DECISION

>> THE EUROPEAN UNION IS CONSIDERING A BAN ON TRAVELERS

FROM THE U. S. OVER THE CORONAVIRUS FAILURES

>> Jimmy: YEAH, THE EUROPEAN LEADERS DISAPPROVE OF TRUMP'S

HANDLING OF THE VIRUS. RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY ONES WHO

APPROVES OF TRUMP'S HANDLING OF THE VIRUS IS THE VIRUS

THAT'S RIGHT EUROPE IS BANNING AMERICANS

FROM ENTERING. EVEN WORSE, EUROPE WAS LIKE,

"HOW DO WE PUT THIS? UM, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH

THE PANDEMIC WE JUST HATE AMERICANS

OKAY BYE‐BYE.

WHEN EUROPE SAID THEY'D BLOCK AMERICANS FROM ENTERING TRUMP

WAS LIKE, "WOW, THAT MUST BE SOME WALL.

SOME WALL. SOME WALL.

SOME WALL! THAT'S NOT A GOOD SIGN THAT

EUROPE IS MORE WILLING TO ACCEPT TOURISTS FROM WUHAN THAN

THE U. S. THE BAD NEWS IS, YOU CAN'T GO

TO EUROPE. THE GOOD NEWS IS, YOUR FRIEND

CAN'T COME BACK FROM SPAIN BEING LIKE, "IT'S PRONOUNCED

'BARCELONA.' AND IT'S NOT ONLY EUROPE THAT

IS CHANGING TRAVEL RULES LISTEN TO WHAT'S HAPPENING LOCALLY AS WELL.

AREA ARE ANNOUNCING NEW TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS THERE IN NEW YORK,

NEW JERSEY, AND CONNECTICUT FOR ALL TRAVELERS COMING FROM

STATES WITH SPIKES IN CORONAVIRUS CASES.

>> Jimmy: YEAH, NEW YORK, CONNECTICUT, AND NEW JERSEY.

TOURISTS WERE LIKE, "DAMN, NOW WE CAN'T TRAVEL TO NEW YORK AND

CONNECTICUT. QUARANTINING FOR TWO WEEKS

SOUNDS LIKE A LOT, BUT IT'S ALL WORTH IT ONCE YOU GET THAT

FIRST HOT SLICE OF TIMES SQUARE PIZZA HUT.

YUP, A TWO‐WEEK QUARANTINE NEW YORKERS ARE LIKE, "JUST

THINK ABOUT IT AS A CAB RIDE FROM THE EAST SIDE OF MANHATTAN

TO THE WEST SIDE." [ LIGHT LAUGHTER ]

IT'S A NEW YORK JOKE, BUT, GOSH, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE

THAT LIVE IN NEW YORK. THEY KNOW THIS JOKE.

MEANWHILE, LOOKS LIKE TRUMP'S HANDLING OF THE VIRUS IS REALLY AFFECTING HIS POLL NUMBERS

POLL SHOWS BIDEN IS CURRENTLY LEADING PRESIDENT TRUMP BY

14 PERCENTAGE POINTS BIDEN GETS 50% IN THIS POLL.

COMPARE THAT WITH 36% FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP.

>> Jimmy: YUP, JOE BIDEN HAS HIS BIGGEST LEAD YET

WHEN HE READ ABOUT IT IN THE PAPER, BIDEN WAS LIKE, "WOW,

GOOD FOR JOE BIDEN HE MUST BE THRILLED.

MEANWHILE, TRUMP'S POLL NUMBERS ARE SO LOW, HE ASKED IF HE

COULD DECLARE BANKRUPTCY AND START OVER

[ LIGHT LAUGHTER ] [ BELL RINGS ]

GOT A DING ON THAT ONE DING

THOSE NUMBERS ARE SO BAD FOR TRUMP, TODAY HE HELD UP

JOHN BOLTON'S BOOK TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT.

AND HE HELD IT LIKE THIS, TOO. MANY POLLSTERS ARE CLAIMING

THAT THIS A HUGE LEAD, BUT AFTER 2016, THAT'S LIKE THE

MAYANS CLAIMING, "OKAY, THE END OF THE WORLD IS NEXT, NEXT

WEEK YEAH, THE END OF THE WORLD

THIS WEEK IS GOOD. YOUR COUNT ‐‐ NO, TRUST ME

YOU READ ALL THE CALENDARS, MONDAY ISN'T MONDAY IN THE

MAYAN CALENDAR IT'S FRIDAY, SO, NO, YEAH.

SO." NOT ONLY IS BIDEN AHEAD IN THE

POLLS, HE ALSO RAISED MORE MONEY THAN TRUMP LAST MONTH.

YEAH, TRUMP'S SO DESPERATE FOR MONEY, HE'S GOING TO START

WRITING A TELL‐ALL BOOK ABOUT HIMSELF.

AS IF THERE AREN'T ENOUGH GOING ON RIGHT NOW HERE IN NEW YORK,

THERE'S ANOTHER ISSUE THAT THE STATE IS BEING FORCED TO DEAL WITH

FIREWORKS ARE SOARING IN NEW YORK CITY.

IT'S GETTING SO BAD, MAYOR BILL De BLASIO IS FORMING

A TASK FORCE TO COMBAT THE PROBLEM.

>> Jimmy: THE FIREWORKS TASK FORCE HAS THE NYPD, THE FDNY

ALL SEARCHING FOR THE FIREWORKS AS WELL AS YOUR COUSIN WHO

ALWAYS GOES, "THIS HAS TO BE THE BIG FINALE

YEAH, THIS IS GOT TO BE IT TRUST ME

WHAT, ANOTHER SONG MORE FIREWORKS

WOW. THAT'S THE BEST ONE.

NO, THAT'S THE BEST ONE. MEMBERS OF THE FIREWORKS TASK

FORCE ARE LIKE, "THIS SUCKS, BUT IT'S BETTER THAN BEING ON

THE ILLEGAL SPARKLER TASK FORCE.

"YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO ‐‐ OH, FORGET IT.

WELL, IT TURNS OUT MEMBERS OF

THAT TASK FORCE ARE GOING TO BE THE ONLY ONES RUNNING AROUND NEW YORK CITY FOR A WHILE.

WILL CANCEL THE NEW YORK CITY MARATHON, THE WORLD'S LARGEST

MARATHON BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC

>> Jimmy: MAN, NO TRIPS TO EUROPE AND NO MARATHON

YOUR ANNOYING FRIEND ON INSTAGRAM'S GONNA HAVE A

A FULL‐ON PANIC ATTACK "WHAT AM I'M GOING TO POST?"

"ARE WE COUSINS? "YEAH.

DID YOU SEE THOSE FIREWORKS? CANCELLING THE RACE IS PROBABLY

A GOOD IDEA. YOU KNOW THAT FEELING WHEN

SOMEONE JOGS BY YOU, AND YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE VIRUS?

MULTIPLY THAT BY 53,000. YEAH

GOOD CALL. WHEN THE NEWS BROKE, AMERICA

WAS LIKE, "OH, NO. I WAS TOTALLY GOING TO RUN THE

MARATHON THIS YEAR YEAH, I'M SO DISAPPOINTED.

AND FINALLY YOU GUYS, LATELY I'VE NOTICED MORE WHITE PEOPLE

ARE PROMOTING EQUAL RIGHTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA, WHICH IS GREAT

BUT IT MAKES ME WONDER IF IT'S ALWAYS FOR THE RIGHT REASONS

WATCHING TV TODAY, I SAW AN AD THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING CHECK IT OUT

>> HAVE YOU BEEN PARTICIPATING IN SOCIAL JUSTICE MORE THAN

EVER BEFORE, BUT YOU FEEL FRUSTRATED THAT NO ONE IS

NOTICING TRY BACKPAT.

[ WHIP CRACKING BACKPAT GIVES YOU

A WELL‐DESERVED PAT ON THE BACK FOR THE MOST MINIMAL EFFORT

TOWARDS SOCIAL JUSTICE >> RECEIVING A LIKE FOR

RESHARING A DESMOND TUTU QUOTE IS OKAY, BUT SOMETIMES AN

INSTAGRAM HEART DOESN'T MAKE MY ACTUAL HEART FEEL ANY BETTER

BACKPAT LETS ME FEEL LIKE I'M NOT PART OF THE PROBLEM.

AND, SEND. >> BACKPAT

[ WHIP CRACKING >> I'M SUCH A GOOD ALLY.

>> JUST SO YOU KNOW, I'M STRAIGHT

SO TWEETING MY SUPPORT FOR LGBTQ RIGHTS IS A HUGE DEAL.

I DON'T FEEL LIKE I'M BEING RECOGNIZED FOR IT.

[ WHIP CRACKING >> THAT DESERVES A BACKPAT

>> I'M A HERO. >> WHAT ABOUT ME

I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ANYTHING

CAN I GET A PAT ON THE BACK FOR TWEETING, "SALON WORKERS ARE

THE REAL HEROES? >> BACKPAT

[ WHIP CRACKING >> ALL RIGHT

HOW ABOUT EQUAL PAY FOR HOUSE PETS

#BETHECHANGE HEY.

HEY, WHERE'S MY BACKPAT? WHERE'S MY BACKPAT

I DESERVE A BACKPAT! I DESERVE A BACK ‐

>> ORDER THE BACKPAT TODAY YOU EARNED IT.

>> Jimmy: AND THAT IS OUR

MONOLOGUE, EVERYBODY IT'S TIME FOR "WHAT ARE YOU DOING WEDNESDAY?

♪ WHAT ARE YOU DOIN THIS WEDNESDAY

WHAT ARE YOU DOING THI WEDNESDAY ♪

>> Jimmy: HEY GUYS, EVERY WEEK WE LIKE TO GIVE YOU SOME

UPLIFTING CREATIVE VIDEOS THAT YOU GUYS ARE MAKING DURING THIS

QUARANTINE AND SHOW IT TO YOU BECAUSE IT JUST MAKES YOU FEEL

GOOD OR MAKES YOU LAUGH. WILL START OFF WITH OUR FIRST

ONE HERE IT'S CALLED "VACUUM AROUND ME.

IT LOOKS LIKE A LITTLE PUPPY, AND IT'S JUST REALLY ‐‐ JUST

TIRED AND TUCKERED OUT

AND THERE'S A ROOMBA AND THE ROOMBA JUST ‐‐ WELL, YOU'LL SEE.

"HONEY, THE ROOMBA IS GROOMING THE DOG AGAIN.

THIS NEXT ONE IS CALLED "HAIRCUT PRANK."

AND IT WAS ON TIKTOK, I BELIEVE.

THE SON WAS SUPPOSED TO GIVE HIS DAD A QUARANTINE HAIRCUT,

AND HE'S JUST PULLED A LITTLE JOKE ON HIM. CHECK IT OUT

>> OH, [ BLEEP ], WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT

WHAT HAPPENED? >> I THINK I ‐‐ MY BAD

LIKE, YOU CAN'T GET MAD. I THINK I KIND OF CUT A BALD

SPOT IN YOUR HEAD. >> ARE YOU [ BLEEP ] KIDDING

ME A BALD SPOT?

>> Jimmy: "WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT

DUDE, YOU GOT A BALD SPOT. I DIDN'T ‐‐ YOU SEE THOSE

FIREWORKS? THIS NEXT ONE IS CALLED "CASTLE

TODDLER. OH, MAN, THIS IS SO CUTE,

HONEY. OH, MY GOSH, SHE'S SO CUTE

THE LITTLE TODDLER LOVES TO JAM OUT TO HER SONG FROM HER CASTLE

TOY. AND SHE'S GOT THE MOVES. WATCH.

♪ >> ONE MORE TIME

♪ >> Jimmy: THAT WENT ON FOR

EIGHT MORE HOURS THIS LAST ONE IS CALLED "PLANT

ORCHESTRA. HAVE YOU SEEN THIS

THERE'S A BARCELONA ORCHESTRA. THEY COULDN'T HAVE AN AUDIENCE

SO THEY PLAYED A CONCERT JUST FOR PLANTS CHECK IT OUT

♪ >> Jimmy: HEY, AT LEAST NO ONE

WAS TEXTING. YEAH, PICK A BAD ONE

ONE OF THE FERNS WAS LIKE, "PLAY 'WONDERWALL.'"

THERE YOU GO, EVERYBODY. THAT IS "WHAT ARE YOU DOING

WEDNESDAYS." WHAT A SHOW WE HAVE TONIGHT.

MORE "TONIGHT SHOW" WHEN WE COME BACK.

COME ON BACK, EVERYBODY. ♪

>> Jimmy: OUR FIRST GUEST IS AN AMAZING ACTOR, OSCAR WINNING

ACTOR WHO YOU KNOW FROM FILMS LIKE "GLADIATOR" AND "A

BEAUTIFUL MIND." HE HAS A NEW THRILLER OUT

CALLED "UNHINGED." HERE IS MY CONVERSATION WITH RUSSELL CROWE.

AWESOME TO SEE YOU, BUDDY. I MISS SEEING YOUR FACE IN

PERSON, MAN. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING

THIS I APPRECIATE IT.

WHAT ‐‐ WHAT TIME IS IT IN AUSTRALIA RIGHT NOW?

>> CHEERS JIMMY. LOVELY TO SEE YOU TOO, MAN

IT'S JUST AFTER 8:00, MAYBE A QUARTER PAST 8:00 IN THE

MORNING. >> Jimmy: ARE YOU QUARANTINED?

WHERE ARE YOU? ARE YOU WITH THE FAM OR ‐‐

>> YEAH, WELL, I'M IN THE BUSH SO, I'M SORT OF ISOLATING IN

ISOLATION. WHEN THIS ISOLATION THING FIRST

STARTED ‐‐ WHERE IS THAT ‐‐ THERE YOU GO

YOU KNOW, WE HAD SORT OF FAMILY DISCUSSIONS AND STUFF ABOUT,

YOU KNOW, WHERE PEOPLE WERE GOING TO BE AND ALL THAT

YOU KNOW AND MY PARENTS ARE HERE IN THE

BUSH YOU KNOW

MY DAD'S 84, MY MOM'S 79 YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT THE

COMPLICATIONS THAT COME WITH AGE.

SO I JUST MADE THE DECISION THAT I HAD TO BE HERE, YOU

KNOW SO, YOU KNOW, I WAS TALKING TO

MY BOYS, AND THEY KEPT THE SCHOOLS OPEN HERE FOR QUITE

A WHILE. SO THERE'S A BIT OF CONFUSION

THERE ABOUT WHERE PEOPLE WERE GOING TO GO AND ALL THAT

AND THEN AT THE END OF THE DAY, MY KIDS DECIDED TO ISOLATE IN

SYDNEY I WAS ‐‐

>> Jimmy: WOW. >> YOU KNOW, I WAS A LITTLE

AFFRONTED BECAUSE IT'S THE BUSH

WE GOT THE WIDE‐OPEN SPACES. YOU KNOW

WE GOT ALL OF THESE AMAZING THINGS UP HERE, RIGHT?

BUT THEY WERE LIKE, "NO, NO, DAD, WE'VE MADE THE DECISION

THAT IN A PANDEMIC, WE'RE GOING TO ISOLATE IN THE MOST POPULOUS

PART OF THE COUNTRY, SURROUNDED BY THE AREAS THAT HAVE THE MOST

INFECTIONS." AND I'M LIKE, "GUYS, CAN I ASK

WHY? AND MY YOUNGEST ONE, WHO IS

JUST TOO HONEST, SAID, "UBER EATS."

[ LAUGHTER ] >> Jimmy: UBER EATS?

>> UBER EATS >> Jimmy: ISN'T THAT GREAT

>> IN A PANDEMIC, MY FATHERLY ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES WERE

PASSED OVER FOR THAT >> Jimmy: KIDS ARE GOING TO BE

KIDS, RIGHT? I MEAN, I ‐‐ WHAT ‐‐ WHAT

A YEAR IT'S BEEN, AN UNFORTUNATE KIND OF YEAR FOR

AUSTRALIA. DESCRIBE THE VIBE WITH THE

FIRES OUT THERE. I FEEL SO BAD FOR EVERYONE OVER

THERE. WHAT'S THE VIBE OVER THERE

>> IT CERTAINLY HAS BEEN A BIT OF A ‐

YOU KNOW WHERE I AM HERE IN THE BUSH,

WE ‐‐ YOU KNOW, THIS TIME LAST YEAR, WE WERE SORT OF ABOUT TWO

YEARS INTO DROUGHT SO WE WERE EXTREMELY BROWN AND THE DAMS

WERE ALL GOING DOWN. AND THEN, AS WE WENT THROUGH

THE WINTER, WE DIDN'T GET THE RAINS THAT WE WERE HOPING FOR

IN THE SPRING. WE GOT A LITTLE BIT, BUT NOT

ENOUGH AND THINGS JUST GOT HOTTER AND

HOTTER AND HOTTER. SO BY THE TIME, YOU KNOW,

SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER ROLLED AROUND, THE FIRES WERE ALREADY

STARTING TO BURN AND THEY STARTED OFF A LONG WAY

AWAY FROM HERE, YOU KNOW THEY STARTED OFF A COUPLE OF

HUNDRED KILOMETERS AWAY BUT YOU COULD JUST SEE IT ENCROACHING

ON A DAILY BASIS YOU KNOW

THEN COME THE END OF OCTOBER, I HAD TO FLY TO AMERICA.

I WAS WORKING IN WILMINGTON. BUT NOVEMBER 12th, THE FIRE HIT

HERE, IN ‐‐ NOT ONLY IN THIS VALLEY, IN THIS PIECE OF LAND.

I'M LOOKING OUT A WINDOW OVER THERE AND I SEE A TREE WITH

FRESH LEAVES ON IT BUT THAT TREE WOULD HAVE BEEN AFLAME

RIGHT THERE. YOU KNOW

AND WE WERE SURROUNDED ON THREE SIDES.

NOW, YOU KNOW ‐‐ BUT WE WENT FROM THAT DROUGHT INTO THAT

FIRE, YOU KNOW, AND THAT FIRE THREAT WAS AROUND FOR MONTHS

AND THEN WHEN THE FIRE THREAT WAS OVER, THE HEAVENS OPENED UP

IN FEBRUARY. AND WE HAD PRETTY MUCH

THREE‐QUARTERS OF AN ANNUAL RAINFALL WITHIN A FEW WEEKS.

SO THE WHOLE VALLEY GOT CLOSED DOWN

EVERY ROAD OUT WAS FLOODED IT WAS ‐‐ IT WAS LIKE JUST ONE

EXTREME TO ANOTHER AND THEN WE COME OUT OF THE

FLOOD, OF COURSE, INTO THIS CORONAVIRUS.

SO IT'S BEEN JUST A SERIES OF EVENTS, YOU KNOW, THAT ‐‐ BUT,

YOU KNOW, I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK BACK THROUGH HISTORY AND YOU

REALIZE LOTS OF OTHER PEOPLE AND TIMES HAVE BEEN WAY MORE

SERIOUS THAN WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, AS SERIOUS AS IT IS.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S WAYS FORWARD YOU KNOW, YOU JUST GOT TO KEEP

DOING YOUR THING, JIMMY. >> Jimmy: YOU ALSO DID A GREAT

THING WITH THE ‐‐ WITH THE RABBITOHS THAT I WANT TO TALK

TO YOU ABOUT BUT I ‐‐ BEFORE WE GET INTO

THAT, YOU KNOW, BLACK LIVES MATTER, THE PROTESTS HAVE BEEN,

OBVIOUSLY, ALL OVER THE PLACE NOT ONLY JUST IN AMERICA

BUT ALSO THE PROTESTS HAVE ‐‐ THEY'RE VERY BIG IN AUSTRALIA

AS WELL. AND YOU DID A VERY COOL THING

WITH YOUR TEAM >> TO EXPLAIN FOR PEOPLE, YOU

KNOW, I HAVE AN OWNERSHIP IN A A RUGBY LEAGUE TEAM, IN WHAT'S

CALLED THE NRL HERE IN AUSTRALIA.

THE SOUTH SYDNEY RABBITOHS IS THE NAME OF THE TEAM

IT'S BEEN AROUND SINCE 1908. IT WAS A FOUNDATION TEAM

YOU KNOW YOU KNOW, WITHIN AUSTRALIAN

CULTURE, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, AUSTRALIAN

ABORIGINALS AND ALSO MANY MAORI PEOPLE FROM NEW ZEALAND AND

OTHER NATIONS LIKE SAMOA AND TONGA AND PAPUA NEW GUINEA

AND, YOU KNOW, THE PLAYER BASE FOR THE GAME OF RUGBY LEAGUE,

YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY HAS A A MAJORITY OF ‐‐ OF BLACK

PLAYERS. YOU KNOW

AND AS A CLUB, WE JUST ASKED THEM IF THEY WANTED TO MAKE

THEIR OWN STATEMENT. AND SO THEY TOOK IT UPON

THEMSELVES AND THEY TALKED TO THEIR OPPONENTS ON THE NIGHT,

THE GOLD COAST TITANS AND THEY ALSO TALKED TO THE REFEREES.

SO BEFORE THAT PARTICULAR ROUND STARTED, THE ENTIRE SQUAD ‐‐

BOTH SQUADS, AND THE REFEREES AND ANY ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF

AND STUFF THAT WERE THERE IN THE STADIUM, OF COURSE THE

STADIUMS ARE EMPTY AT THE MOMENT, THEY ALL TOOK A KNEE

TOGETHER AND YOU KNOW, THAT WAS JUST

A GESTURE OF SUPPORT FROM ACROSS THE OTHER SIDE OF THE

WORLD. YOU KNOW

AND, YOU KNOW, THE GREAT THING ABOUT IT WAS THAT RIGHT ACROSS

THE BOARD FROM THE TOP OF THE SPORT THROUGH BOTH CLUBS AND

THE ADMINISTRATIONS TO ALL THE PLAYERS AND COACHING STAFF AND

EVERYTHING, THERE WAS 100% AGREEMENT THAT THAT'S WHAT WE

SHOULD BE DOING. YOU KNOW

>> Jimmy: REALLY >> TO OFFER SUPPORT BUT ALSO TO

BRING LIGHT TO CERTAIN ISSUES THAT ARE PREVALENT IN

AUSTRALIA, YOU KNOW? WE HAVE A REALLY NEGATIVE

COLONIAL HISTORY OF HOW WE TREATED THE INDIGENOUS CULTURE

THAT WAS HERE WHEN WE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE ENGLISH FIRST

ARRIVED TO SETTLE THE PLACE. YOU KNOW

SO THERE'S A LOT OF THOSE THINGS THAT ARE PUBLIC

KNOWLEDGE AND ARE DISCUSSED AT CERTAIN POINTS THAT JUST NEED

TO BE FULLY ADDRESSED. AND ONE OF THEM IS A THING THAT

REQUIRES A LOT OF FOCUS, AND THAT'S BLACK DEATHS IN CUSTODY

THERE'S BEEN AN INORDINATE AMOUNT OF ABORIGINAL MEN AND

WOMEN DIE IN POLICE CUSTODY SINCE THE EARLY 1990s.

AND THESE THINGS JUST SIMPLY HAVE TO STOP

THERE HAS TO BE THE FOCUS GIVEN AND THE SERIOUSNESS GIVEN TO

RE‐ACHIEVE SOME BALANCE. YOU KNOW

OR ACHIEVE SOME BALANCE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A LOT OF CASES

>> Jimmy: ABSOLUTELY WELL, I THINK THE PICTURE EVEN

JUST OF BOTH TEAMS ON ONE KNEE WAS A BEAUTIFUL THING.

AND IT DID SEND A GOOD MESSAGE >> THEY SORT OF SEEMED TO

NATURALLY ‐‐ I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANY PLAN, BUT IT KIND

OF FORMED A HEART. SO IT WAS KIND OF A POIGNANT

MOMENT AND I'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, AND THE

CLUB HAS HAD NOTHING BUT ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE FEEDBACK

FOR IT >> Jimmy: GOOD FOR YOU

I WANTED TO TELL YOU BEFORE WE GOT GOING ON THIS, BUT I'LL

JUST SAY IT NOW, YOU WERE SO GREAT AS ROGER AILES AND

CONGRATS ON WINNING THE GOLDEN GLOBE.

CRUSHED IT YOU WERE SO GOOD AS YOU ALWAYS

ARE. BUT THAT WAS GREAT

AND I WANTED TO GET A MESSAGE TO YOU, LET YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I

THOUGHT ‐‐WHAT A GREAT PERFORMANCE.

YOU WERE AMAZING >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH

YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A HUGELY CHALLENGING JOB.

AND I KIND OF ‐‐ YOU KNOW, GOING INTO IT ‐‐ THE FIRST TIME

I DID THE MAKEUP TEST, MAN, IT WAS SIX HOURS LONG

YOU KNOW I'M STARING DOWN THE BARREL OF

THAT JOB YOU KNOW

AND 68 MAKEUP APPLICATIONS OR WHATEVER, GOING, "SERIOUSLY?

YOU KNOW >> Jimmy: WE GOT TO DO THIS

TOMORROW AGAIN, TOO, AND THE NEXT DAY

>> AND THE NEXT DAY, AND THE NEXT DAY

YEAH WE GOT IT TO ‐‐ TO AN EFFICIENT

LEVEL AND THEN OVER TIME, LEARNED A LOT ABOUT, YOU KNOW,

THE BEST WAY TO APPROACH IT AND ADAPTED THE SCHEDULE COMPLETELY

AROUND IT. SO I WAS VERY LUCKY I WAS

WORKING WITH BLUMHOUSE AND THE PEOPLE THAT MADE THAT EASIER

THAN IT MIGHT BE FOR ME. BUT YEAH, THAT WAS A SERIOUSLY

CHALLENGING GIG. >> Jimmy: YOU DID A GREAT ONE.

YOU DID A GREAT ONE. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT YOUR NEW

MOVIE, "UNHINGED." I'M ALSO A LITTLE FRIGHTENED TO

TALK TO YOU RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE YOU ARE SCARY AS HELL IN THIS

MOVIE. BUT CAN WE TALK ABOUT THAT

MOVIE WHEN WE COME BACK? IS THAT OKAY

CAN YOU STICK AROUND >> ALL GOOD.

>> Jimmy: MORE WITH RUSSELL CROWE WHEN WE COME

BACK, EVERYBODY. MORE WITH RUSSELL CROWE WHEN WE

COME BACK. ♪

♪ >> Jimmy: HERE'S PART TWO OF MY

CONVERSATION WITH RUSSELL CROWE.

RUSSELL CROWE, THANKS AGAIN FOR TALKING TO ME.

LET'S TALK ABOUT YOUR NEW MOVIE, "UNHINGED."

IT'S IN THEATERS JULY 10th NOW THIS ‐‐ YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY

TERRIFYING IN THIS MOVIE REALLY

I MEAN ‐‐ I'M GOING TO TELL YOU ‐‐ I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU

MAYBE THREE MINUTES INTO THE MOVIE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT

WHERE I GO LIKE, "OKAY, NO, NO, OH, MY GOODNESS, NO, YOU MESSED

WITH THE WRONG DUDE. THIS GUY IS UNHINGED, MAN.

AND IT'S KIND OF BASED OFF OF ROAD RAGE WHERE A WOMAN IS

BEHIND YOU AT THIS RED LIGHT AND JUST LAYS ON THE HORN.

>> IT'S ONE OF THOSE FILMS THAT ON THE SURFACE IT SEEMS TO BE

A PARTICULAR TYPE OF GENRE MOVIE OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW.

BUT IT ALSO HAS EXTREME RESONANCE FOR THE TIME WE FIND

OURSELVES IN YOU KNOW, WE SEEM TO HAVE

GOTTEN TO A POINT IN HISTORY WHERE IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR

PEOPLE WHO HOLD DIFFERING VIEWS TO HAVE ANY POLITE

CONVERSATION YOU KNOW

AND ‐‐ AS THE CHARACTER STATES IN THE FILM, WE'VE DEVELOPED AN

INABILITY TO APOLOGIZE TO ANYONE FOR ANYTHING.

YOU KNOW YEAH, I MEAN, WHEN I FIRST READ

IT, MAN, I WASN'T ‐‐ I DIDN'T THINK I WANTED TO DO

IT IN FACT, I WAS PRETTY DAMN SURE

I DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT, YOU KNOW

BUT WHAT STAYED WITH ME ‐‐ I HAD PROBABLY A FORTUNATE SERIES

OF EVENTS WHERE BECAUSE I HAD READ IT, AND IT WAS SUCH AN

EXTREME SCRIPT, AND I HAPPENED TO BE IN LOS ANGELES, AND I WAS

SEEING FRIENDS WHO WERE ACTORS, YOU KNOW

"WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN READING? I WAS LIKE, I'D BE READING THE

THING ‐‐ I HAD TO DESCRIBE IT TO THEM.

AND MALE OR FEMALE, THEY WERE LIKE, "OH, WOW, THAT SOUNDS

AMAZING. AND I HAD, LIKE, TURNED IT

DOWN YOU KNOW

I WAS LIKE, "THIS IT?" >> Jimmy: DO YOU REALLY

THINK ‐‐ HOLD ON ONE SECOND. >> WHAT A CAME TO REALIZE, MAN,

I SIMPLY WAS AFRAID OF IT. BECAUSE IT WAS SO TRUE AT ITS

ESSENCE THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO ALLOW THE EVENTS OF THEIR

LIFE TO STRIP THEM OF THEIR HUMANITY AND THEN, YOU KNOW,

ACT OUT AGAINST OTHERS AND WE'RE SEEING IT, YOU KNOW,

MORE AND MORE OFTEN WITH MASS SHOOTINGS AND OTHER EVENTS

AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S A REAL THING IN OUR SOCIETY, AND IT'S

SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE PUT ON THE TABLE AND DISCUSSED AND

BROKEN DOWN. AND, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY

ELIMINATED BECAUSE WE FOCUS ON IT

YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE ENERGY AROUND US AT THE MOMENT THAT IS

CAUSING CERTAIN PEOPLE TO RESPOND TO THEIR LIVES IN THAT

WAY? >> Jimmy: YOU WERE SAYING WHEN

YOU SAID, "EH, I'M GOING TO PASS ON THAT."

DID YOU FEEL THAT WAY ABOUT "GLADIATOR"?

OR NO, YOU'RE LIKE, "OH, I GOT TO DO THIS."

>> SEE, "GLADIATOR" KIND OF IS A UNIQUE EXPERIENCE BECAUSE THE

SCRIPT THAT THEY HAD WAS SO BAD.

IT WAS JUST SO BAD YOU KNOW

IT'S LIKE, OKAY ‐‐ >> Jimmy: REALLY

>> YEAH. BUT, YOU KNOW, THE PRODUCER

DIDN'T KNOW I HAD ACTUALLY ALREADY BEEN ABLE TO GET A

A COPY BUT YOU KNOW THE THING HE SAID

IS, "I DON'T WANT TO SEND YOU THE DOCUMENT WE HAVE

BECAUSE YOU WON'T RESPOND TO IT."

HE SAID, "BUT I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO HAVE A MEETING

WITH RIDLEY SCOTT. AND HERE'S THE THING THAT I

WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT. IT'S 180 A. D

YOU'RE A ROMAN GENERAL, AND YOU'RE BEING DIRECTED BY

RIDLEY SCOTT JUST THINK ABOUT THAT.

[ LAUGHTER ] >> Jimmy: YEAH, EXACTLY.

THE ONE AND ONLY >> SO I WENT TO SEE RIDLEY, AND

HE WAS SO PREPARED AND THE THINGS THAT HE COULD SHOW ME,

AND THE VISUAL IMAGES AND THE MATHEMATICS OF HOW HE WAS GOING

TO NOT HAVE TO BUILD AN ENTIRE COLISEUM, YET STILL SHOOT THE

COLISEUM AND WE JUST CLICKED ON THAT

FIRST MEETING. SO, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS

A LITTLE ‐‐ IT WAS DEFINITELY A LITTLE BIT OF RISK INVOLVED

IN IT AT THE TIME, YOU KNOW. >> Jimmy: DID YOU KNOW IT WAS

GOING TO BE A BIG HIT? DID YOU KNOW THAT YOU WERE

GOING TO BE QUOTED FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE

>> NOT ON DAY ONE, MAN [ LAUGHTER ]

BUT BY THE TIME I WAS LEAVING THE SET ‐‐

I DEFINITELY FELT THE COLLECTIVE ENERGY OF THAT CAST

WAS FANTASTIC. YOU KNOW

YOU SIT BACK AND THINK ABOUT WHO WAS ACTUALLY IN THAT MOVIE

YOU KNOW, GREAT ENGLISH ACTORS LIKE DEREK JACOBI, AND

OLIVER REED, AND DAVID HEMMINGS, YOU KNOW

AND YOU'VE ACTORS LIKE TOMAS ARANA AND DJIMON HOUNSOU,

YOU KNOW AND THEN YOU GOT CONNIE NIELSEN

WITH A CAREER BEST PERFORMANCE YOU GOT JOAQUIN PHOENIX, JUST

SMASHING OPEN, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY'S ASSUMPTIONS OF WHAT

A CHARACTER LIKE THAT COULD BE AND HOW ‐‐

I MEAN IT WAS JUST ‐ EVERYBODY BOUGHT INTO IT, MAN.

IT WAS LIKE ONE OF THOSE THINGS, NOBODY WAS GOING AROUND

AND TOMMY FLANAGAN, TOO. OF COURSE, NOBODY WAS GOING

AROUND WINKING AT THE CAMERA, YOU KNOW

NOBODY WAS GOING AROUND DOING THAT SORT OF PERFORMANCE WHERE

YOU GIVE THE AUDIENCE THE KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND

YOU'RE IN A FUNNY COSTUME. YOU KNOW

EVERYBODY JUST LIVED IN THAT WORLD THAT RIDLEY CREATED.

THE THING IS SO ‐‐ IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT WITH

SOMEBODY ELSE. BUT HE'S SUCH A VISUAL ARTIST

THAT EVERY SPACE THAT YOU WALKED INTO, EVEN IF IT WAS

ONLY A PARTIAL SPACE THAT WOULD BE FILLED IN WITH CGI, YOU

KNOW, THAT SPACE WAS SO AMAZING.

YOU KNOW, AND EVERYTHING FELT LIKE ON A SCALE, YOU KNOW?

SO, I MEAN, IT WAS AN EXTREMELY DIFFICULT JOB.

AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF TERRIFYING IN A LOT OF WAYS

BUT ‐‐ >> Jimmy: IT STANDS THE TEST OF

TIME IT'S FANTASTIC

>> IT'S UNBELIEVABLE 20 YEARS LATER, PEOPLE ARE

STILL TALKING ABOUT IT YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN

WITH EVERY MOVIE, MAN. >> Jimmy: YEAH

>> IT DOESN'T HAPPEN WITH EVERY FILM

YOU KNOW, WHEN RIDLEY AND I SIT TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT IT, THE

MAIN THING WE DO IS JUST LAUGH ABOUT WHAT WE GOT AWAY WITH.

YOU KNOW RIDLEY'S ATTITUDE IS LIKE, "HOW

MANY BULLETS DID WE DODGE IN ONE MOVIE?

AND IT CAME OUT, AND IT CAME OUT, AND IT WAS SUCCESSFUL, NOT

ONLY WAS IT SUCCESSFUL, IT WAS THE BEST FILM.

IT WON THE OSCAR, YOU KNOW >> Jimmy: AND THERE'S PAINTINGS

OF YOU FOREVER I MEAN, THERE'S PEOPLE DRESSING

LIKE YOU FOR HALLOWEEN THERE'S ‐‐ EVERY INTERVIEW I

SEE YOU IN, THEY END UP GOING, "MR. CROWE, WE'RE VERY

ENTERTAINED. AND YOU GO, "OH, MY GOSH

CAN YOU NOT SAY THAT TO THIS MAN?

I WOULD ONLY SAY THAT TO YOU THROUGH ZOOM

I WOULD NEVER SAY IT TO YOU IN REAL LIFE, EVER.

BECAUSE I WOULD BE AFRAID. I GO, "OH, MY GOSH."

BUT YOU KNOCKED IT OUT AND I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE

TIME TO TALK TO ME ABOUT ALL THIS

THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING OVER THERE IN AUSTRALIA.

AND LOVE TO THE FAMILY, AND YOU, STAY SAFE

I REALLY WANT TO JAM OUT WITH YOU AGAIN.

I WANT TO PICK ONE OF THOSE GUITARS UP WITH YOU AND PLAY,

BUDDY. >> COOL, MAN, LET'S DO THAT.

>> Jimmy: THANK YOU SO MUCH AGAIN.

I APPRECIATE IT. MY THANKS TO RUSSELL CROWE

STICK AROUND FOR BEN PLATT, EVERYBODY.

COME ON BACK ♪

>> Jimmy: OUR NEXT GUEST IS AN AMAZING FORMER YOU MIGHT KNOW

FROM THE BROADWAY HIT, "DEAR EVAN HANSEN.

WHO HE WON ‐‐ HE WON A TONY FOR THAT ONE

HE'S AMAZING AND SEASON TWO OF "THE

POLITICIAN" IS STARTING UP RIGHT NOW. HERE IS BEN PLATT.

>> Jimmy: BEN PLATT, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE

I APPRECIATE IT, BUDDY HOW ARE YOU DOING, AND WHERE

ARE YOU QUARANTINED, BUD >> I'M QUARANTINED IN L. A., IN

MY CHILDHOOD HOME, IN MY CHILDHOOD BEDROOM WITH MY

PARENTS. >> Jimmy: NO

>> OF COURSE OF COURSE.

YEAH, I'M A NEW YORKER USUALLY, BUT I ‐‐

YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO GET SOME SPACE AND SO ‐‐ I'VE BEEN IN

THE TEENAGE ROOM, AND REVERTING SLOWLY TO MY TEENAGE SELF.

BUT DOING ‐‐ DOING JUST FINE >> Jimmy: WHAT WAS THE FIRST

THING THAT'S KIND OF, LIKE, WEIRDED YOU OUT?

ARE YOU SLEEPING IN THE SAME BEDROOM, OR NO

>> THE SAME BED THAT I GREW UP IN, YEAH

I MEAN, I ‐‐ I ‐‐ I HAVE, LIKE, STARTED EATING CEREAL IN THE

MORNING AGAIN. THERE'S LIKE CENTERPIECES FROM

MY BAR MITZVAH STILL IN MY ROOM

[ LAUGHTER ] ALL OF MY, LIKE, "PIPPIN"

MUSICAL POSTERS. IT'S ‐‐ NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

IT'S VERY UNTOUCHED. >> Jimmy: THIS IS, LIKE, WHERE

YOU ‐‐ WE TALKED ABOUT THIS. WHERE YOU KIND OF GOT YOUR BUG

AND YOU WERE DOING THE BROADWAY SHOWS IN YOUR BACKYARD, OR

SOMETHING I READ >> YEAH, WE HAVE, LIKE,

A LITTLE PLATFORM IN THE BACKYARD THAT, LIKE, IN MY

EYES, WORKS REALLY BEAUTIFULLY AS A STAGE

SO THAT'S WHERE I DID ALL OF MY PRODUCTIONS GROWING UP

I DID, LIKE, YOU KNOW, "LION KING" WITH A BUNCH OF KIDS FROM

MY FIRST GRADE CLASS THAT I COULD, LIKE, CONVINCE TO COME

OVER ON THE WEEKENDS AND PERFORM.

>> Jimmy: FIRST GRADE? >> I GOT FOUR OR FIVE OF THEM

TO SHOW UP AND, LIKE, EVEN WHEN THERE WERE

ONLY FIVE KIDS, I WAS LIKE WE GOT TO MAKE SURE ONE OF THESE

KIDS IS PLAYING YOUNG SIMBA, AND ONE IS PLAYING OLD SIMBA

BECAUSE YOU GOTTA SEE THAT TRANSITION

AND SORT OF, LIKE ‐‐ >> Jimmy: YOU'RE A PRODUCER.

WOW. >> SO, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T

HAVE ENOUGH FOR TIMON AND PUMBAA, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER.

AS LONG AS THERE'S A MOMENT WHERE YOUNG SIMBA BECOMES OLD

SIMBA. I FEEL LIKE THAT WAS ‐

>> Jimmy: AND HOW WOULD THAT MOMENT ‐‐ HOW WOULD THAT MOMENT

HAPPEN >> WELL, STILL ‐‐ I HAD THE ONE

KID WAS ON THE STAGE, BECAUSE HE HAD DONE THE BEGINNING OF

THE SHOW HE WAS YOUNG SIMBA

AND THEN WE PULLED A BUNCH OF FLOWER PETALS OUT OF MY MOM'S

FLOWERS GARDEN JUST RAVAGED HER STUFF

AND JUST THREW THEM ON HIM, AND THEN THE OTHER KID RAN IN AND

SWITCHED WITH HIM. IT WAS VERY THEATRICAL

REALLY BEAUTIFUL DIRECTORIAL CHOICE, I THINK.

>> Jimmy: YEAH AND I'M SURE YOUR MOM WAS HAPPY

THAT YOU RIPPED UP HER GARDEN, TOO.

>> ABSOLUTELY THRILLED YES, SHE LOVES ‐‐ SHE LOVES

WHEN STUFF GETS RIPPED UP. BUT, YEAH, THAT'S WHERE I GOT

BIT. YEAH

>> Jimmy: HEY, I WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT "DEAR EVAN HANSEN.

I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, AND MAN, YOU WERE FANTASTIC IN

THIS PLAY. BUT THERE WERE RUMORS THAT

"DEAR EVAN HANSEN" COULD BE A FILM, AND YOU WOULD BE IN THE

FILM IS THIS HAPPENING?

>> WELL, I MEAN, WE'RE KIND OF IN THIS WEIRD, LIKE, COVID

LIMBO, WHERE KIND OF ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN

IT'S SOMETHING WE DEFINITELY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET

TOGETHER AND MAKE HAPPEN I KNOW UNIVERSAL REALLY WANTS

TO MAKE THE FILM AND ‐‐ YOU KNOW

IT'S KIND OF A TOSS‐UP AT THIS POINT JUST BASED ON CAN WE DO

IT SAFELY AND CAN WE GET IT TOGETHER IN TIME

AND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF US ARE GETTING A LITTLE LONG IN THE

TOOTH. SO I THINK IT'S, LIKE, KIND OF

A NOW OR NEVER KIND OF THING BUT I'M HOPING ‐‐ I'M HOPEFUL

THAT IT CAN COME TOGETHER AND WE CAN FIND A SAFE WAY TO DO

IT AND, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL BE THE

FIRST TO KNOW, BUT AS OF NOW, IT COULD REALLY GO EITHER WAY.

BUT I THINK IT COULD BE A BEAUTIFUL THING STILL.

WE'LL SEE. >> Jimmy: PEOPLE WOULD LOVE IT

I MEAN ‐‐ I MEAN, I THINK ONCE PEOPLE SEE WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN

WITH "HAMILTON," EVERYONE WILL BE GOING, "YEAH, WE SHOULD HAVE

FILMED THIS. I MEAN, YOU WERE UNBELIEVABLE.

BY THE WAY, WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE 'STACHE

I CAN'T BELIEVE I HAVEN'T BROUGHT THIS UP.

THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE >> I JUST FIGURED NOW OR NEVER

>> Jimmy: I'M GOING TO GIVE IT A STANDING OVATION, IF YOU

DON'T MIND [ APPLAUSE ]

>> THANK YOU HERE'S A CLOSE‐UPS OF THE

'STACHE. THANK YOU.

>> Jimmy: WHAT ARE THE REVIEWS >> WELL, I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO

DO IT. I'VE BEEN AFRAID TO DO IT, AND

I FIGURED, LIKE, QUARANTINE, NOW OR NEVER KIND OF THING

MY BOYFRIEND NOAH REALLY LIKES IT, SO IT MAKES ME REALLY LIKE

IT AND CERTAINLY, IF WE DID THE

"EVAN HANSEN" MOVIE, THIS WOULD GO AWAY.

BUT FOR NOW ‐‐ >> Jimmy: YOU GOT TO SHOW

RANGE, YOU GOTTA SHOW YOUR RANGE.

IT COULD BE LIKE A ‐‐ YOU KNOW, A FAST‐FORWARD SCENE OF "DEAR

EVAN HANSEN. LIKE, IT'S YOU

>> HE'S LIKE A GROWN, KIND OF '70s DUDE.

YEAH >> Jimmy: YEAH, LOOKING BACK,

AND IT'S LIKE A "STAND BY ME." YOU CAN NARRATE THE WHOLE

THING. I GREW A MUSTACHE LAST

SUMMER ‐ NO, TWO SUMMERS AGO.

AND I CALLED IT THE SUMMER OF 'STACHE, I WAS VERY EXCITED

ABOUT IT AND UNIVERSALLY ‐‐

[ LAUGHTER ] LIKE GLOBALLY.

>> THEY DON'T GET IT BUT THAT'S OKAY.

IT MAKES ME LIKE IT A LITTLE MORE, I THINK.

>> Jimmy: YOU HAVE TO DO IT. YOU GOTTA DO IT.

I MEAN, WHEN YOU'RE MUCH OLDER, YOU'LL BE LIKE, "LOOK HOW YOUNG

AND COOL ‐‐ I LOOK LIKE A STUD, I HAD A COOL MUSTACHE.

IT'S AWESOME, IT'S FUN [ LAUGHTER ]

I WANT TO SAY ALSO, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH YOUR

ACTIVISM AS WELL >> OF COURSE

>> Jimmy: I SEE YOU ON THAT, NOT ON YOUR SOCIALS, BUT JUST

IN THE NEWS AND EVERYWHERE YOU'VE BEEN TO A FEW PROTESTS,

AND YOU'VE BEEN DONATING A LOT OF MONEY TO DIFFERENT CAUSES

WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHT ON EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING ON?

>> I MEAN, IT'S WILD I THINK IT'S BEEN INCREDIBLY

EYE‐OPENING FOR ME THE WAY IT HAS FOR EVERYBODY IN A LOT OF

DIFFERENT WAYS PARTICULARLY WHITE PEOPLE.

I THINK THAT ‐‐ YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN A REALLY IMPORTANT THING

TO COME TO TERMS WITH THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JUST

AVOIDING BEING AN ACTIVE RACIST AND BEING AN ACTIVE

ANTI‐RACIST. AND I THINK FIGURING OUT THE

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEING ACTIVELY AN ALLY AND ACCOMPLICE

VERSUS JUST, SORT OF, BEING NEUTRAL IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND

SOMETHING THAT GOES REALLY OVERLOOKED

PARTICULARLY IN SOMETHING THAT IS SO SYSTEMIC AND PERVASIVE

AND I THINK NO MATTER HOW PURE YOUR INTENTIONS OR, SORT OF,

HOW BENEVOLENT YOU FEEL LIKE YOU ARE AS A WHITE PERSON,

THERE IS JUST SOMETHING INNATE AND INHERENT THAT WE HAVE TO,

KIND OF, TAKE OWNERSHIP OF AND, SORT OF, ACT AGAINST

AND SO, THAT'S BEEN A REALLY NICE WAKEUP CALL, I THINK.

AND FOR ME IT'S JUST BEEN ALL ABOUT MAKING SURE I'M

AMPLIFYING THE RIGHT VOICES. YOU KNOW, THE BLACK LEADERS AND

ACTIVISTS THAT HAVE BEEN FIGHTING THIS SAME FIGHT FOR A

A LOT LONGER THAN JUST THESE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, AND WHO

KNOW A LOT MORE ABOUT THE INS AND OUTS OF ALL OF THIS THAN WE

DO AND MAKING SURE THOSE ARE THE

VOICES WE'RE FOLLOWING AND LISTENING TO, AND NOT SPEAKING

BEFORE I UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M REALLY SAYING AND ‐‐

>> Jimmy: PEOPLE HAVE THE QUESTIONS ABOUT, OBVIOUSLY,

THERE'S PLACES TO GO BUT YOU CAN START WITH BEN'S

SOCIAL BEN PLATT, HE'S GOT A LOT OF

GOOD SPOTS THAT ‐‐ >> THANKS.

>> Jimmy: OPEN YOUR EYE A LITTLE BIT AND HAVE YOU START

THINKING HOW TO MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE

>> Jimmy: SPEAKING OF THAT, "THE POLITICIAN" SEASON TWO.

WE JUST HAD YOUR CO‐STAR GWYNETH PALTROW ON THE SHOW

A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. YEAH, OH, MY GOD, YEAH

SHE WAS JUST SO HARD TO TALK TO AND DEAL WITH.

BUT SHE GAVE YOU RAVE REVIEWS, BUDDY.

RAVE REVIEWS AS EVERYONE DOES

EVERYONE WHO TALKS ABOUT YOU, THEY ‐‐ NOTHING LIKE ‐‐ "WATCH

OUT FOR THIS GUY, HE'S UNBELIEVABLE."

>> THANKS, MAN >> Jimmy: BUT EXPLAIN WHAT IS

HAPPENING THIS SEASON. >> YEAH, OF COURSE

PAYTON ‐‐ SO YEAH. THE FULL FIRST SEASON WAS KIND

OF LIKE THIS BACKSTORY, SETTING UP THIS CHARACTER OF PAYTON,

WHO'S LIKE THIS CRAZY, EGOMANIAC PASSIONATE POLITICIAN

TO WANTS TO BE THE LEADER AND WANTS TO BE THE PRESIDENT

AND ‐‐ IT WAS THIS WHOLE KIND OF HIGH

SCHOOL DRAMA MADNESS AND NOW, YOU KNOW, HE'S A BIT

OLDER, ALL THE CHARACTERS ARE A BIT OLDER.

THEY'RE IN THEIR 20s I MIRACULOUSLY GET TO PLAY MY

OWN AGE, WHICH IS A BIZARRE NEW EXPERIENCE FOR ME.

AND IT'S ALL ABOUT A STATE SENATE RACE IN NEW YORK WHERE

PAYTON'S RUNNING AGAINST DEDE STANDISH, WHOSE PLAYED BY

JUDITH LIGHT SHE'S, LIKE, BEEN IN THAT SEAT

FOR 13 CONSECUTIVE TERMS, AND HE'S THE FIRST PERSON TO

CHALLENGE HER IN A LONG TIME AND HER CAMPAIGN MANAGER IS, OF

COURSE, BETTE MIDLER, WHO PLAYS HADASSAH GOLD.

WHICH IS JUST, YOU KNOW, VERY CASUAL TO HAVE BETTE MIDLER

JUST, LIKE, GIVING AN ALL‐IN COMEDIC PERFORMANCE NEXT TO

YOU. >> Jimmy: JUDITH LIGHT AND

BETTE MIDLER, TWO ‐‐ TWO LEGENDS.

SO NOW YOU'RE GOING FOR SENATE WITH ‐‐ YOUR DREAMS ARE TO

BECOME THE PRESIDENT, REALLY >> YES, THAT'S ‐‐ YES, YES

YEAH, NO, SO YEAH, IT'S ALL ABOUT STATE SENATE

IT'S OBVIOUSLY SOMEWHAT FANTASTICAL.

AND THE NICE THING ABOUT IT COMING OUT IN THIS MOMENT, IS

THAT IT'S PRETTY MUCH AN ESCAPE

I MEAN, THERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT OBVIOUSLY ARE RELEVANT.

THERE'S AN EPISODE ABOUT CANCEL CULTURE, AND THERE'S A BIT

ABOUT, LIKE, ACTIVATING YOUNG PEOPLE TO VOTE, WHICH I THINK

IS A REALLY POWERFUL AND FANTASTIC MESSAGE.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S JUST REALLY, KIND OF, KOOKY,

BIZARRE, FUN, SHARP. IT'S A REALLY NICE LITTLE THREE

AND A HALF HOUR ESCAPE >> Jimmy: BEN PLATT, YOU'RE

AWESOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THE

SHOW I REALLY APPRECIATE IT

AND YOU ROCK THANKS, BUD.

>> THANKS, DUDE. ♪

>> Jimmy: THANK YOU, BEN PLATT WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH A

A PERFORMANCE FROM BRITTANY HOWARD.

♪ >> Jimmy: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, BRITTANY HOWARD.

♪ ♪

♪ ♪

♪ ♪

♪ SEE TOMATOES ARE GREE AND COTTON IS WHIT

MY HEROES ARE BLACK ♪ ♪ SO WHY GO

GOT BLUE EYES ♪ ♪

♪ MY DADDY HE STAYE MY GRANDMAMA'S A MAI

MY MAMA WAS BRAVE ♪ ♪ TO TAKE ME OUTSID

'CAUSE MAMA IS WHITE AND DADDY IS BLACK ♪

♪ WHEN I FIRST GOT MADE SEE I GUESS I MADE

THESE FOLKS MAD ♪ ♪ SEE I KNOW MY COLORS SE

BUT WHAT I WANNA KNOW IS WHO SLASHED MY DAD'S TIRES ♪

♪ AND PUT A GOAT HEAD IN THE BAC

I GUESS I'M NOT ♪ ♪ SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT

TOO BA I GUESS I'M NOT SUPPOSED ♪

♪ TO MIND 'CAUSE I'M BROWN

I'M NOT BLACK ♪ ♪ BUT WHO SAID THAT

SEE I'M BLAC I'M NOT WHITE ♪

♪ BUT WELL I AM THA BUT NO NO I'M THIS RIGHT

I'M ONE DROP ♪ ♪ OF THREE‐FIFTHS RIGHT

GOAT HEAD IN THE BAC GOAT HEAD IN THE BACK ♪

♪ GOAT HEAD IN THE BACK GOAT HEAD IN THE BAC

GOAT HEAD IN THE BACK ♪ ♪ GOAT HEAD IN THE BACK

GOAT HEAD IN THE BAC GOAT HEAD IN THE BACK ♪

♪ GOAT HEAD IN THE BACK GOAT HEAD IN THE BAC

GOAT HEAD IN THE BACK ♪ ♪ SEE GOAT HEAD IN THE BACK

GOAT HEAD IN THE BAC GOAT HEAD IN THE BACK ♪

♪ GOAT HEAD IN THE BACK GOAT HEAD IN THE BAC

GOAT HEAD IN THE BACK ♪ ♪ GOAT HEAD IN THE BACK

GOAT HEAD IN THE BACK ♪ ♪

♪ >> Jimmy: THANK YOU GUYS SO

MUCH FOR WATCHING. I APPRECIATE IT.

PLEASE WATCH THE NEXT SHOW WASH YOUR HANDS, DON'T TOUCH

YOUR FACE. I'LL SEE YOU TOMORROW NIGHT.

BYE BYE.