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Job Study 6

Job 20-24 If only I knew how to find Him

SEM LEGENDA

Off we go number six and we're gonna do the book of Job

chapters now, let's just work it out. I think we're the

chapters 20 to 20 - four. If for me to do that. So here we

are with our region. First of all we begin to read Joby first

seven verses, then sulfa the neighbor replied. My troubled

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That's is zier the third of the three comforters

and it's not impressed. It seems by james' Wonder

Confession of faith in Jesus. In the resurrection, hope why

not I mean Chapter 20 Maybe give us some of the answers

No-I think so because I think when we James's given that

wonderful thing about looking to the future and the day of

the Lord's coming and all that and so was like no no no. I

don't like this at all. I want the wicked sorted out right

now. and so he gives all this long argument throughout the

chapter where he's really saying that's not an I I can't

wait I'. Going to wear, I'm not going to be patient cuz

remember James 511 and we might look at that again, but it

won't be patient. just he feels must be here and now seen here

and now so in verse 15, he says. Look we all know with the

with the The The wicked ones evil is sweet in his mouth,

Verse 12 verse 15. He spits it all out. He can't like the he

must right now where we can all see it and see the. Quess must

happen right now Verse 17. The wicked will not enjoy the

streams the rivers flowing with honey and cream so all the way

through he's sort of wanting to say, look forget the future in

a way. I'm sure it'll be good in all the rest of it but right

here and now we want to see the wicked getting what they

deserve right now and that's the way it has to be so job

forget looking over to that day of Justice today is the day of

Justice. I think it's John Crist 16 centuries ago, who

once said that you have to be careful not to dig. For the

wicked too soon is that the pitch is being dug, but for the

preacher digg it too soon, you made a bad mistake right

brilliant. So here is Jena. He's got to reply course he

wants to So it's the faith of the wicked really so clear in

this life is asking Chapter 20 - one well, it's not at all and

that should be one of the most obvious things. If you look out

into the world, the wicked prosper course the cross, but

they pro all the time crime does pay all the time and I

Because he doesn't know he's Redeemer, He does know the Lord

Jesus. he's able to look at the world and just see it for what

it is so job 21 verse seven to eight, he says. Actually why do

the wicked live on because they do the wicked live on all the

time growing old and increasing in power. They see their

children established around them. They're offspring before

their eyes. You know Joss. it says you look at the The Nazi

concentration camp come on who escapes to South South America

and ends up. You know, bouncing his baby granddaughter on his

knee. Yeah, Of course, the wicked prospect theys all the

time and job is actually. Make sense of this world a lot more

than the the miserable comforters the miserable

comfort is just they must see in this life that the wicked

get it in the neck and that the righteous are blessed but Joe

because he knows about the Lord Jesus because he knows that the

greatest suffering happens to the greatest man so that we're

the worst can have the greatest blessing. He knows that things

are so much more mixed in this life and so in Chapter 21, he

just points out that the blindingly obvious really the

wicked sometimes prosper and that really under Cutts so far.

Arguments and the argument of the other confidence yes and

yeah, so that's Joe and actually I like what he says in

Chapter 21 verse 30 - Four at the end of it. Nothing is left

of your answers, but so but then Ellis is not convinced by

this. why is he so sure that German must be in the wrong in

Chapter 20 - two well intern to 20 - two. I suppose the attack

his friends It's all the things you've done wrong that brought

this about and then I think Joe has given a fairly thorough

answer to say well, that doesn't quite work. does it

because people do things wrong and it doesn't they don't

necessarily get instantly destroyed and so I think credit

to him in a sense. He's like I don't think I can just repeat

the same arguments again. so he says, Okay. It's not your sins

of Commission. it''s your sins of our mission. It's what you

failed. That's got you in this mess so he goes your weakness

is great, but what the problem is you haven't looked after

people properly. So you took things from people. you didn't

like you verse seven. You gave no water to the weary You

withheld food from the hungry. Though you are powerful, you

kind of you sent those away when they came for help and all

these things now later, James's gonna explain that isn't how he

lived at all, but this is Alfa. He's a attempt to say no, I

think I. A problem here, it's not so much that loads of

Wicked. you've just not help people enough. you've kind of

just ignored the Christ and he said. And again he's like don't

worry though I've got the answer. If you only just sort

that out and get some instruction from the Lord and

start doing all these social things You should've done. then

it's going to be lovely. Then you're delight in the Lord and

he will lift up your face and verse 20 - six and all that and

then he will deliver you and lift you up to be danas the

Lived through the cleanness of your hands versus 30. So in the

end, it's the same old Gass philosophy of sayan over again,

just from a slightly different angle. It's always the accuser.

actually she's I think it's a Matthew Henry, who describes

Joe's response as a struggle as he puts it a struggle between

the flesh and the spirit fear and faith. So where do we see

that in Chapter 20? - three? Yeah. Chapter 20. - Three is

such a mixed bag and I think Life as we're going through

suffering and as we're trying to counsel people going through

suffering, we'll we'll see great faith and doubt mixed

together, great confidence and despair. so here in Chapter 23

we we see verses three and four nervous verses marvelous verses

and job has this confidence that kind of God is for him. If

only I knew where to find him. If I could go to his dwelling,

I would state my case before him and fill my mouth with

arguments. He's he's quite confident that he and the lord

of friends and yeah and and yet you go down to verse 14 and he

seems to have such. Special of God actually, he carries out

his decree against me and many such plans he still has in

store. That is why I'm terrified before him. When I

think of all this, I fear him. so he's such a mixed bag and

you see similarly in Chapter seven, he felt like the Lord

was so close to him, scrutinizing him and now in

Chapter 20, - three verse eight the Lord so far away If I go to

the East, he's not there. If I go to the West, I don't find

him when he's at work in the North. I don't see him

when he turns. Catch a glimpse from him, so what is it is the

Lord near or is he far away? Is he friends with the Lord? Is he

a suspicious of the Lord? What is the answer is? Yes? Yeah.

He's just he's a mixed bag, but in amongst it all in verse 10,

I love this phrase second half of verse 10, but when he has

tested me-I shall come forth as gold. Yeah, that's great. Yeah.

it could be it could be a theme verse for the whole book. Yeah

couldn't that's good through the furnace of affliction and

out the other side into greater glory. That's his deep down

fundamental hope, but in the midst of it, he's a mixed bag.

Yeah, of course. And we have to remember as we said at the very

start of this season that although the heavenly

discussion went on and they only knew what was happening.

We also all know what's happening but job is not is not

in the dark about what's happening and that's part of

the conflict of course as he's he's in with but having

expressed in his turmoil and faith of and fear how does Jere

return to these arguments of his friends in Chapter 24?

Okay, so what he had done in Chapter 20. Explained the

wicked sometimes do very well and they don't always end badly

in 20 -. four is saying righteous and innocent people

don't always do well so he's coming and get it from that

angle now and so he goes through these examples of how

vulnerable people and the orphans and the they often and

the widows and the orphans are people that the lord like is

especially interested in and he goes orphans and widows the

very people that After have a rough time and that people take

advantage of it, the needy and the poor and the innocent

lacking clothes verse seven. They spend the night naked.

They have nothing to cut themselves. The fatherless

child verse nine and so on, so he's looking at it from that

side and then verse 12. God charges no one with wrongdoing.

So he's saying, Look you guys are always saying it's black

and White. There is a simplistic answers and it's all

easy, he says. I've shown you that the wicked don't always

end badly but are. Showing you that the innocent and the poor

and the needy and people who are calling out to the Lord for

help, don't always get wonderful, big health and

wealth packages. In fact, they often die and the hungry and

they're taking advantage of and they cry and this is all the

way through the Scriptures. This is a crime that we hear

from the prophets and the apostles and in the highest

heaven even in heaven. This guy goes up How long oh Lord and

Joe's throwing attention to that. You get that revelation

six with the artists on the crying out how long how long

and but there's going to be an answer. There is going to be an

answer. So is there some way that you think in which job

resolves this tension in Chapter 24? Well, that never be

time for judgement versus to go to the vast yes or because

verse one. Yeah, I think what job does is He then He wants to

track the course of the wicked, not just in this life, which.

That the the comfort are interested. he wants to track

it down through to the grave to shale to judgment. So so in

verse 13, he starts tracking the course of the wicked and he

begins in verse 13 and 14. it says. Yeah there there are

murderers who are getting away with it. There are adulterers

verse 15 who are getting away with it, but verse 19 as heat

and drought snatched away the melted snow so the grave or

shield ??? Those who have sinned or verse 22, But God

drags away by the drags away the mighty by his power, though

they have become established. They have no assurance of life.

He's thinking about the grave and beyond and then in verse 20

- four, he starts using harvest language, he says for a little

while they're exalted and then they are gone. They are brought

low and gathered up harvests language like all the others.

They are cut off like ears of corn and of course throughout

the Bible Harvest language is very much Judd Revelation 14.

So there yes, Yes, Yes or Matthew 13 or James Five, which

James Five is fascinating to think about that actually looks

back at job, and he says that there's a judgment to come and

in the light of that judgment. That's how we have to make a

true assessment. The Lord makes a true assessment not according

to the prosperity of the suffering of this world, But

the Lord makes a true judgment on that last day and so that's

what we look to for that true judgment. and in the meantime,

what should what should Christians do What We Believers

do well, We imitate the the. The perseverance of job James

Chapter Five verse verse 11 James Chapter Five Verse 11.

You have heard of Joe's perseverance and you've seen

what the Lord finally brought about the Lord is full of

compassion and mercy, so we don't just judge things.

According to this life, we see towards a judgment in which the

we could really well in the ends, get their come ups, but

in which the friends of the Lord receive that compassion

and that mercy from the Lord, that's where we look to you

that you are. About the really job is so like I think the

Prophet, who followed later Habakkuk who exercised doubts

and felt doubts, but it was doubt within commitment. That's

the wonderful thing and so a person can have doubts. We may

exercise diet and feel them, but it can be doubt within

commitment to the Lord. Everything we know enough as

Joby just enough to hold on even in the darkness that verse

you mentioned. Early on that memory of us as it could be 23

verse 10, but he knows the way that I take when he has tested

Me-I shall come forth as gold. he held onto that we can hold

on to that as well. I think of a fine Christian leader in this

country here in the UK well known across the country when

he was having a really difficult time. This first

spoke to him and he said this about it My heart lett. I

almost fell out of bed with the joy of reading. And I know that

God understood the pressure upon me and they were part of

his refining process. somebody there sharing with us in the

study. We don't know who you are where are you in bed? was'

the time going difficult or you know somebody who's having a

difficult time well make that verse a memory verse to hold on

to job 20 - 310, But he knows the way that I take when he has

tested Me-I shall come forth as 310 Thank you for joining us.