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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,980 In California, the worst measles outbreak in fifteen years is spreading. 2 00:00:12,100 --> 00:00:14,720 The virus is roaring back into the headlines tonight. 3 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,280 An outbreak somehow traced to 4 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,586 someone who has probably caught measles abroad 5 00:00:19,596 --> 00:00:22,160 visited Disneyland, and may have sneezed. 6 00:00:22,300 --> 00:00:24,520 Measles on the march in America. 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:26,560 This outbreak is showing no signs of letting up. 8 00:00:26,660 --> 00:00:29,200 There are already more cases this year than there were in the... 9 00:00:29,380 --> 00:00:33,180 In 2014, the number tripled to 644 measles cases 10 00:00:33,220 --> 00:00:34,940 reported in 27 states. 11 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,883 I mean, is this all basically because of the anti-vaccination movement, 12 00:00:38,022 --> 00:00:40,454 because the parents aren�t vaccinating their kids? 13 00:00:40,464 --> 00:00:41,920 Yeah, you know, I--I think so. 14 00:00:42,020 --> 00:00:45,380 A bill that would ban exemptions from childhood vaccines 15 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,040 is advancing through the California legislature. 16 00:00:48,160 --> 00:00:51,560 We are authoring legislation that'll abolish personal belief exemption. 17 00:00:51,660 --> 00:00:54,400 I think you�re starting to see why it is that the mandates are so important. 18 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,180 There has been some inaccurate information circulating about vaccines 19 00:00:58,300 --> 00:01:00,351 mostly stemming from a British study 20 00:01:00,361 --> 00:01:02,426 linking vaccines to autism. 21 00:01:02,436 --> 00:01:06,040 We still continue to hear that vaccines cause autism even though that�s been debunked. 22 00:01:06,300 --> 00:01:08,300 Repeatedly and thoroughly debunked. 23 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,900 You may have heard vaccination causes autism 24 00:01:11,020 --> 00:01:13,020 in one out of 110 children. 25 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,920 Fuck that! Total bullshit! It doesn�t! 26 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,240 The bill requiring children to be vaccinated has passed with bipartisan support. 27 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,376 Every child must meet immunization standards 28 00:01:23,386 --> 00:01:26,640 before joining public schools, private schools and daycares. 29 00:01:26,740 --> 00:01:29,080 I would strongly encourage everybody, 30 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,240 look at the science, look at the facts. 31 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,680 CDC, the Center for Disease Control can give you good information. 32 00:01:34,740 --> 00:01:36,740 Get your children vaccinated. 49 00:02:58,940 --> 00:03:00,140 Hello? 50 00:03:00,300 --> 00:03:03,540 I was sitting at my desk where I teach at Simpson University. 51 00:03:03,660 --> 00:03:06,640 My phone rings, and it�s Dr. William Thompson. 52 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,340 Brian, you and I don�t know each other very well. 53 00:03:10,100 --> 00:03:13,000 I don�t know how this is all going to play out. 54 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,280 You have a son with autism, and 55 00:03:15,700 --> 00:03:18,075 I have great shame now 56 00:03:18,085 --> 00:03:21,391 when I meet families with kids with autism 57 00:03:21,401 --> 00:03:25,320 because I have been part of the problem. 58 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,600 My son, Steven, 59 00:03:28,660 --> 00:03:32,400 was born in February of 1998. 60 00:03:33,060 --> 00:03:35,400 Steve, what does the cow say? 61 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:45,020 Two weeks after his fifteen month vaccines, then he lost all language. 62 00:03:45,420 --> 00:03:47,420 He lost all eye contact. 63 00:03:47,660 --> 00:03:50,060 You�d pick him up and he would just hang limp. 64 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:57,000 This is a time where CDC was just starting to do these studies on vaccines and autism. 65 00:03:57,780 --> 00:04:03,320 As a scientist, I have over 60 technical and scientific publications 66 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,880 in major international scientific journals. 67 00:04:07,140 --> 00:04:12,460 And I was contacting CDC and was deeply critical of their studies. 68 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,795 And so the CDC decided that the scientist 69 00:04:15,805 --> 00:04:19,179 who was going to interface with me at that time was Dr. William Thompson. 70 00:04:20,260 --> 00:04:24,360 Because I was on his back, because he didn�t like what I was saying about the statistics 71 00:04:24,620 --> 00:04:28,920 I received a letter from a CDC attorney in 2004 72 00:04:29,260 --> 00:04:33,880 saying that I was no longer permitted to contact the CDC. 73 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,780 Fast forwarding to 2014, 74 00:04:39,180 --> 00:04:40,559 Thompson said to me: 75 00:04:40,569 --> 00:04:42,980 �Brian, if you listen to me 76 00:04:43,260 --> 00:04:46,140 and if you do what I tell you to do 77 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:50,460 I can guarantee you will be able to access a treasure trove of data 78 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,200 and I would like to guide you through these steps.� 81 00:05:01,060 --> 00:05:05,235 So, I want to be a resource, I want to be valuable to you. 82 00:05:05,245 --> 00:05:08,876 I want you to have someone in the system. 83 00:05:09,888 --> 00:05:11,334 For years 84 00:05:12,305 --> 00:05:17,125 I have been trying to crack this edifice of the CDC 85 00:05:17,370 --> 00:05:20,820 and just getting little glimpses of what was not right. 86 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:26,180 The CDC has put the research 10 years behind. 87 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,000 Because the CDC has not been transparent 88 00:05:30,100 --> 00:05:32,900 we�ve missed 10 years of research 89 00:05:33,241 --> 00:05:37,254 because the CDC is so paralyzed right now 90 00:05:37,789 --> 00:05:40,104 by anything related to autism. 92 00:05:43,420 --> 00:05:48,560 I am a licensed clinical psychologist and a board certified behavior analyst. 93 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,177 In 1978, 94 00:05:51,187 --> 00:05:56,761 I want to say the prevalence of autism was about one in 15,000 children. 95 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,440 It was a very rare disorder. 96 00:05:59,820 --> 00:06:02,332 I was working at a clinic at UCLA 97 00:06:02,342 --> 00:06:06,204 which was pretty much the only known center for treating children with autism 98 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,640 and we had maybe 6 to 10 children who we were working with. 99 00:06:10,860 --> 00:06:12,902 Somewhere around the early 90s, 100 00:06:12,912 --> 00:06:15,840 shortly after I opened CARD, 101 00:06:15,850 --> 00:06:19,879 the growth of autism has been so high and so rapid 102 00:06:20,260 --> 00:06:23,240 that I�ve never felt like I could ever catch up anymore. 103 00:06:23,620 --> 00:06:27,040 From an official diagnostic perspective 104 00:06:27,140 --> 00:06:29,140 the way that we define autism, 105 00:06:29,380 --> 00:06:32,020 we were looking at deficits in two areas. 106 00:06:32,100 --> 00:06:36,240 The first is social communication and social interaction. 107 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,320 And in that area 108 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,440 we require three specific symptoms to be present, 109 00:06:42,540 --> 00:06:46,460 symptoms such as no social-emotional reciprocity 110 00:06:46,660 --> 00:06:51,320 no non-verbal communication � that means eye contact, for instance, 111 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,800 or no development of relationships. 112 00:06:54,020 --> 00:06:57,607 The second required area of deficits is 113 00:06:58,037 --> 00:07:03,608 the presence of stereotypic, repetitive, restricted behaviors. 114 00:07:03,643 --> 00:07:06,180 And these are things like hand flapping, 115 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:10,900 body rocking, insistence on routines being the same. 116 00:07:11,733 --> 00:07:14,249 One of the new additions 117 00:07:14,361 --> 00:07:17,763 is the presence of a sensory dysregulation. 118 00:07:18,100 --> 00:07:22,540 If a child has an inability to sense things correctly 119 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,180 not necessarily hearing things the way we do 120 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,740 that could be classified as a symptom of autism. 121 00:07:31,700 --> 00:07:33,700 So, if you have five symptoms 122 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,400 two in the area of repetitive behaviors 123 00:07:36,500 --> 00:07:39,900 and three in the area of social communication deficit 124 00:07:40,060 --> 00:07:45,220 then you will get a classification of what�s called Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD). 125 00:07:48,900 --> 00:07:51,260 We begin though, as always, �Keeping Them Honest�. 126 00:07:51,380 --> 00:07:52,660 Breaking news tonight. 127 00:07:52,740 --> 00:07:54,740 Just hours ago, British Medical Journal (BMJ) 128 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,960 did something extremely rare for a scientific journal. 129 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,420 It accused a researcher Andrew Wakefield of outright fraud. 130 00:08:01,650 --> 00:08:04,834 I got a call on the 19th of May 1995 131 00:08:04,844 --> 00:08:07,287 from a mother telling me the story of her child 132 00:08:07,500 --> 00:08:10,820 his regression into autism following a vaccine. 133 00:08:11,140 --> 00:08:13,963 And I said 'How can I help you? 134 00:08:14,194 --> 00:08:16,799 I know nothing about autism. You�ve come through the wrong number.' 135 00:08:17,140 --> 00:08:21,772 And she said: 'No, doctor. My child has terrible gastrointestinal issues 136 00:08:21,782 --> 00:08:23,733 and no one will take them seriously.� 137 00:08:23,792 --> 00:08:27,240 I was an academic gastroenterologist doing research 138 00:08:27,830 --> 00:08:31,055 with the particular interest in Crohn�s disease and ulcerative colitis 139 00:08:31,065 --> 00:08:33,368 inflammatory bowel disease. 140 00:08:33,403 --> 00:08:35,120 I knew nothing whatsoever about autism. 141 00:08:35,220 --> 00:08:37,320 When I was at medical school it was so rare 142 00:08:37,330 --> 00:08:39,438 we weren�t talking about it. 143 00:08:39,580 --> 00:08:42,820 We heard a succession of stories which were very, very similar. 144 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,840 Medicine is about 'pattern recognition' 145 00:08:46,140 --> 00:08:48,700 and there was a clear pattern emerging. 146 00:08:48,780 --> 00:08:51,760 So we decided, a group of us, 147 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:56,240 including the world�s leading pediatric gastroenterologist 148 00:08:56,420 --> 00:08:58,420 at the time led by Professor John Walker Smith 149 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,880 decided that these children merited thorough investigation. 150 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:06,540 Well, Dr. Wakefield, as has been shown, used absolutely fraudulent data. 151 00:09:06,548 --> 00:09:10,020 He created a fake paper. The Journal allowed it to run. 152 00:09:10,180 --> 00:09:14,201 All the other studies that were done showed no connection whatsoever 153 00:09:14,203 --> 00:09:15,335 again and again and again. 154 00:09:15,660 --> 00:09:19,520 So it�s an absolute lie that has killed thousands of kids. 155 00:09:19,660 --> 00:09:22,780 What we discovered and reported for the first time was this 156 00:09:23,060 --> 00:09:27,560 link between what appeared to be a novel type of intestinal inflammation 157 00:09:27,860 --> 00:09:32,500 and autistic regression in previously developed, mentally normal children. 158 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,580 And among those, the majority have regressed into autism, 159 00:09:36,940 --> 00:09:41,060 according to their parents, following the measles, mumps and Rubella Vaccine. 160 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:47,280 It wasn�t our place to censor that story because it may be uncomfortable for public health. 161 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,240 Our job was to report that story accurately 162 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,160 in order that it might lead to further investigation. 163 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,840 And the paper explicitly said: 164 00:09:56,140 --> 00:09:59,832 'This paper does not prove an association between 165 00:09:59,842 --> 00:10:02,683 MMR vaccine and the syndrome described. 166 00:10:02,693 --> 00:10:06,247 More work is needed to resolve this issue.' 167 00:10:06,257 --> 00:10:08,160 That was the conclusion of the paper. 168 00:10:08,700 --> 00:10:11,080 As an investigative medical journalist 169 00:10:11,220 --> 00:10:14,960 I�ve spent the last seven years working on one of the best medical talk shows in the world. 170 00:10:15,300 --> 00:10:18,839 We know in medicine that there have been many, many studies 171 00:10:18,849 --> 00:10:21,102 proving that vaccines do not cause autism. 172 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,972 But the problem I have always had with that is 173 00:10:23,982 --> 00:10:27,991 is thousands and thousands of parents all telling the same story. 174 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,660 �My child got a vaccine, usually the MMR vaccine' 175 00:10:31,770 --> 00:10:35,280 and then that night or the next day broke out in a fever 176 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:39,400 and then when they came out of the fever lost speech, lost the ability to walk 177 00:10:39,660 --> 00:10:43,080 basically regressed into what we know as autism. 178 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:44,640 And never came back.� 179 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,013 Doctors used to be told to listen to their patient. 180 00:10:48,191 --> 00:10:50,360 That was the cornerstone of medicine as we know it. 181 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,577 But something�s changed recently where 182 00:10:52,587 --> 00:10:54,593 the patient doesn�t know what they�re talking about 183 00:10:54,753 --> 00:10:58,645 and these parents with their story of their children have just been written off 184 00:10:58,655 --> 00:11:01,517 as though they have no idea what�s really going on with their child. 185 00:11:01,702 --> 00:11:03,002 I have two kids 186 00:11:03,164 --> 00:11:07,860 and anyone that has children knows that when we first have babies 187 00:11:08,020 --> 00:11:10,806 we are overly sensitive to every little hiccup, 188 00:11:10,816 --> 00:11:12,879 every cough, every sniffle. 189 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,560 So to say that the parent was just unaware that the child had issues 190 00:11:17,820 --> 00:11:21,800 and suddenly they realized one year later that �Oh, they have autism� 191 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:23,380 that doesn�t make sense to me. 192 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,440 So I wanted to look into this story and find out 193 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:32,280 what is this disconnect between medicine, science and real parents? 194 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,240 I couldn�t wait to be a mom. 195 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,800 I remember specifically, before we even got married 196 00:11:42,824 --> 00:11:45,624 talking about how important children would be in our lives. 197 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,860 I wanted a daughter first and I wanted a son. 198 00:11:49,020 --> 00:11:51,020 And we were planning on having four children. 199 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,340 We were going to be the most perfect parents that we could be. 200 00:11:54,736 --> 00:11:56,747 Bella was born and 201 00:11:57,620 --> 00:12:00,140 that was a wonderful experience. 202 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:04,580 Bella was just this angelic, perfect child. She hit all her milestones. 203 00:12:05,420 --> 00:12:08,680 I got pregnant with Billy quite quickly. 204 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,480 Bella, say hello to Billy. 205 00:12:13,500 --> 00:12:15,500 We�ve now got a beautiful girl and a beautiful boy. 206 00:12:15,540 --> 00:12:17,080 Life was just amazing. 207 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:21,160 So two, four and six months Billy had his normal baby vaccines. 208 00:12:21,220 --> 00:12:25,220 A little bit snivelly, chesty, coldy after maybe the last one. 209 00:12:25,340 --> 00:12:28,960 So me, in my �perfect mother mode� rushed to the doctor. 210 00:12:29,140 --> 00:12:31,760 �Is he okay? Do I need to give him anything?� 211 00:12:31,860 --> 00:12:33,590 �Yes, you need to give him antibiotics 212 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,564 just to make sure there�s not an infection in there.� 213 00:12:35,832 --> 00:12:37,140 It didn�t clear up. 214 00:12:37,260 --> 00:12:40,228 Rushing back to the doctor, �Oh, he needs more antibiotics.' 215 00:12:40,453 --> 00:12:42,275 So just keep this going in him. 216 00:12:42,285 --> 00:12:45,689 And I remember my mother calling me up, my mother is a homeopathic hippie 217 00:12:45,724 --> 00:12:49,920 calling me out saying �What are you doing? You're chucking those antibiotics down your son? 218 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,000 For what?� And I�m saying to her: 219 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,580 �Mom, with all due respect, you�re an artist and they�re doctors, so they know best.� 220 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,240 He was due his MMR vaccination at twelve months 221 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,380 So the morning exact to the day my friend, she said to me: 222 00:13:03,500 --> 00:13:08,180 �Listen, I heard that there may be a problem with this vaccine you're about to take Billy for, the MMR.� 223 00:13:08,300 --> 00:13:11,880 And I said �Are you crazy? What is the matter with you? 224 00:13:11,980 --> 00:13:15,660 If there was a problem with vaccination it would be headline news. 225 00:13:15,900 --> 00:13:17,900 The doctor would be calling me up saying 226 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,700 �Do not bother coming in. This is not a safe vaccine.� 227 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,800 None of that is happening. 228 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:27,800 You�re being negative and you�re being careless and you�re listening to what? Some rumor that you heard somewhere. 229 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,600 Billy could become deaf if I don�t take him in now and get him his MMR. 230 00:13:34,660 --> 00:13:39,540 Most of the evidence linking measles with autism has kind of settled down 231 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,242 and most of the doctors and scientists agree 232 00:13:41,252 --> 00:13:43,343 that it probably isn�t the major cause. 233 00:13:43,524 --> 00:13:45,840 I�ve been working in pediatrics for almost twenty years. 234 00:13:46,340 --> 00:13:50,760 I think most pediatricians view vaccines as 235 00:13:50,940 --> 00:13:54,320 they�re the number one thing they do for kids. 236 00:14:00,281 --> 00:14:03,133 I�m young enough to not remember 237 00:14:03,143 --> 00:14:06,206 the days of kids in an iron lung 238 00:14:06,241 --> 00:14:08,200 because they were battling polio. 239 00:14:08,500 --> 00:14:11,400 You know, polio has essentially been eradicated from this country. 240 00:14:11,540 --> 00:14:15,100 In �98 the Wakefield study came out. 241 00:14:15,220 --> 00:14:19,700 My son had just been born. That study kind of pointed the finger at the MMR. 242 00:14:19,940 --> 00:14:23,620 As a parent, I was scared to give the MMR to my son 243 00:14:24,420 --> 00:14:28,580 and as a matter of fact, we... I didn�t give it to him on time 244 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:34,600 because I wanted to see. I wanted to see what additional studies would show. 245 00:14:34,980 --> 00:14:39,320 And over time additional studies did show that it�s safe 246 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:44,540 so he did get the vaccine. You know, if everybody stopped vaccinating... 247 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,620 we would be going back to the dark ages. 248 00:15:00,100 --> 00:15:04,801 When a CDC scientist who'd been there at that time 17 years 249 00:15:05,039 --> 00:15:06,415 tells you: 250 00:15:06,580 --> 00:15:08,580 �This is how you access data� 251 00:15:08,660 --> 00:15:10,844 it didn�t take me very long to realize 252 00:15:10,854 --> 00:15:12,883 �Oh, I better do what he says 253 00:15:12,893 --> 00:15:15,140 because he knows what he�s talking about.� 254 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:16,847 I just want to tell you one thing. 255 00:15:16,857 --> 00:15:19,464 Right now, I�m sitting in a very pretty position 256 00:15:19,474 --> 00:15:21,777 in terms of providing you a lot of information. 257 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,480 He asked me: �What data sets are you going to request?� 258 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,140 and I said: �Well, I�m going to request two of the studies you�ve done on Thimerosal 259 00:15:28,180 --> 00:15:32,920 the mercury containing preservative that�s used in some of the vaccines.� 260 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:34,499 And he said: �Well, that�s fine, 261 00:15:34,625 --> 00:15:38,246 but I want you to request the MMR data set first.' 262 00:15:38,380 --> 00:15:42,280 This is the study by Frank DeStefano and his colleagues in 2004. 263 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:47,000 It was the one study where we could end up creating a mess 264 00:15:47,180 --> 00:15:52,320 while the CDC tries to sort out something they couldn�t understand. 265 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:56,640 The day Billy got the MMR was a living nightmare. It was the worst day of my life, to be honest with you. 266 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:01,680 I came in and I saw him lying in his cot, listless. 267 00:16:01,900 --> 00:16:05,335 He started this uncontrollable shaking, 268 00:16:05,613 --> 00:16:07,028 uncontrollable shaking! 269 00:16:07,063 --> 00:16:10,160 Imagine coming out of a frozen pond. 270 00:16:10,300 --> 00:16:14,540 His eyes were doing this and he was shaking like this. 271 00:16:14,700 --> 00:16:19,260 And I remember, she grasped him and held him really tight to her chest. 272 00:16:19,500 --> 00:16:21,860 There�s immediate fear in John and there's immediate 273 00:16:22,060 --> 00:16:24,826 �Mommy, this is not going to happen' 274 00:16:24,836 --> 00:16:27,653 �I don�t know what is wrong with you but this is not going to happen.� 275 00:16:27,980 --> 00:16:30,332 And we get to a hospital. We rushed him in, 276 00:16:30,342 --> 00:16:33,026 doctors are coming in, looking at him. 277 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:37,091 That�s when they said: �He�s had a reaction. He�s had a seizure. 278 00:16:37,204 --> 00:16:39,919 This is normal. This is common 279 00:16:39,954 --> 00:16:43,820 for many, many children who have this vaccination. 280 00:16:43,980 --> 00:16:46,980 It�s absolutely okay. He�s going to be fine.� 281 00:16:47,100 --> 00:16:49,367 Nobody ever told me 282 00:16:49,377 --> 00:16:54,018 there would be any side effect to any of the vaccinations my children had. 287 00:17:02,546 --> 00:17:06,397 Following his fibril convulsion that he had the same day of the MMR 288 00:17:06,407 --> 00:17:08,180 we were told to take him home. 289 00:17:08,220 --> 00:17:10,220 He slept in the bed with us for the night. 290 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,140 He seemed just very, very sleepy. 291 00:17:12,340 --> 00:17:17,200 In fact, he didn�t really ever wake up to the Billy that we had before. 292 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,940 For me, it became really necessary to start looking at 293 00:17:25,020 --> 00:17:29,340 what types of medical issues are this children going through, 294 00:17:29,540 --> 00:17:32,640 what are the other factors that have affected them, 295 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,560 that have brought them to this level of symptomology that we call autism. 296 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,520 This is now probably the mid-90s. 297 00:17:38,544 --> 00:17:42,296 I came to notice that a) there was a very high 298 00:17:42,306 --> 00:17:45,163 use of antibiotics amongst these children 299 00:17:45,180 --> 00:17:47,720 but b) what became pretty interesting was 300 00:17:47,744 --> 00:17:51,944 seeing the number of families who were reporting 301 00:17:51,968 --> 00:17:57,368 that their child had a regressive type of behavior occur 302 00:17:57,420 --> 00:17:59,800 right after their vaccinations. 303 00:18:00,100 --> 00:18:04,400 A lot of these parents were showing me footage of their children 304 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:10,060 who had been completely developing normally until 18 months 305 00:18:10,300 --> 00:18:16,280 and then all of a sudden, post-vaccination, had developed incredible regression. 306 00:18:16,380 --> 00:18:20,506 Children who had speech anywhere or close to 50 to a 100 words 307 00:18:20,516 --> 00:18:22,859 had completely lost all of their words. 308 00:18:22,980 --> 00:18:27,138 Children who were extremely attached and interactive with their parents 309 00:18:27,148 --> 00:18:29,669 had suddenly become isolated, 310 00:18:29,847 --> 00:18:32,380 no longer responding to their own name. 311 00:18:32,540 --> 00:18:37,360 This was all happening right after their MMR vaccines. 312 00:18:47,340 --> 00:18:52,140 My oldest son, Ian, was born normal, developing normally. 313 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:57,480 He was this beautiful boy and we ended up at our 12-month day, which is one year. 314 00:18:57,740 --> 00:18:59,840 Then they gave him multiple vaccines at once. 315 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,640 And within seven days he had a 104 fever, 316 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,220 and a rash all over his body. 317 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,533 He had previously been noted 318 00:19:09,543 --> 00:19:14,180 in our videos, home videos, that he was walking 319 00:19:14,190 --> 00:19:15,700 and actually running at that point. 320 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,480 Seven days after the vaccine, he was no longer able to do that. 321 00:19:41,260 --> 00:19:46,120 He was falling down, he became a really sick, sick little boy. 322 00:19:47,900 --> 00:19:50,640 So the question for those of us investigating autism: 323 00:19:50,900 --> 00:19:55,580 Is age of exposure to MMR a risk for autism? 324 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,020 And in order to understand why that might be 325 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,560 you have to understand something of a history of the MMR vaccine. 326 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:07,563 In 1987, there was an MMR vaccine that was being used in Canada 327 00:20:07,573 --> 00:20:10,189 produced by SmithKline Beecham (GSK) 328 00:20:10,224 --> 00:20:14,188 and that vaccine caused meningitis. It was recognized quickly 329 00:20:14,198 --> 00:20:17,494 and that vaccine was withdrawn in Canada. 330 00:20:17,500 --> 00:20:21,260 However, in the same month that it was withdrawn in Ontario, 331 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,880 it was licensed in the UK. 332 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,760 The name vas simply changed from 'Trivirix' to 'Pluserix.' 333 00:20:27,940 --> 00:20:32,080 In the UK, it was used for four years and likewise it caused meningitis 334 00:20:32,180 --> 00:20:33,855 and had to be rapidly withdrawn. 335 00:20:34,104 --> 00:20:35,494 There was a public outcry, 336 00:20:35,504 --> 00:20:40,215 there was an acute loss of confidence by the public in the vaccine policy makers 337 00:20:40,590 --> 00:20:44,680 and the vaccine should, at that point, have been destroyed. 338 00:20:44,900 --> 00:20:46,020 It wasn�t. 339 00:20:46,100 --> 00:20:49,600 It was then shipped to developing countries, like Brazil 340 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,600 where it was used in a mass vaccination campaign. 341 00:20:52,820 --> 00:20:55,720 And there was an epidemic of meningitis. 342 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,200 So, it was entirely predictable. 343 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,740 Now, scientists studied that epidemic 344 00:21:01,980 --> 00:21:05,700 and what they found is that the risk for meningitis 345 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,840 was associated with age of exposure. 346 00:21:08,020 --> 00:21:11,440 The younger you got the MMR vaccine 347 00:21:11,540 --> 00:21:13,860 the greater the risk of meningitis. 348 00:21:13,980 --> 00:21:16,880 For people like me, investigating autism, 349 00:21:16,940 --> 00:21:20,720 the question was: �Is there a similar risk in autism? 350 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,400 Is age of exposure to MMR 351 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:28,240 a risk for autism just as it was for meningitis?� 352 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:33,420 We shared with the U.S. Congress and the CDC the hypothesis. 353 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,880 The story as told to us, on which we have an obligation to report, 354 00:21:38,140 --> 00:21:41,697 is that the majority of children regressed 355 00:21:41,707 --> 00:21:43,613 following a period of normal development 356 00:21:43,623 --> 00:21:45,679 in the face of MMR vaccination. 357 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,020 That does not mean it is the cause of the disease. 358 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,351 The Institute of Medicine is a body of scientists 359 00:21:51,361 --> 00:21:55,254 and physicians that review the available data on vaccine safety 360 00:21:55,264 --> 00:21:58,920 and then advise our government on vaccine research policy. 361 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,960 Well, because Andy Wakefield had put forth this theory that 362 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,654 the age at which you receive the MMR 363 00:22:06,664 --> 00:22:08,511 may increase your risk of autism 364 00:22:08,546 --> 00:22:11,700 the IOM looked to the CDC to do that very study. 365 00:22:11,780 --> 00:22:13,780 It was a study about timing. 366 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:18,860 Does the earlier you receive the MMR vaccine increase the risk of autism? 367 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,880 When we talk about the MMR study 368 00:22:21,220 --> 00:22:25,220 nobody had ever requested those data 369 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,820 because it was a big secret that you can do it. 370 00:22:27,900 --> 00:22:31,360 Thompson told me to e-mail such and such person, 371 00:22:31,580 --> 00:22:33,500 and then on the inside, 372 00:22:33,740 --> 00:22:39,080 I also found out that one of the people preparing these data sets for me was Bill Thompson. 373 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,180 They don�t really want people to know that this data exists. 374 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,540 Again, just simply, we can actually get you that data. 375 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,500 Thompson couldn�t send these documents directly to Brian Hooker 376 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,600 because that would have been illegal. 377 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,140 What Thompson identified was a legal loophole 378 00:22:55,340 --> 00:22:58,440 that is referred to as a �citizen�s request�. 379 00:22:58,780 --> 00:23:01,594 That allowed Thompson to deliver to Brian Hooker 380 00:23:01,594 --> 00:23:05,635 potentially classified information in a legal way. 381 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:15,060 You get checked in England with your babies at certain times helped by health visitors. 382 00:23:15,095 --> 00:23:20,040 So nine months, Billy had his full-blown check 383 00:23:20,140 --> 00:23:22,120 and it says no parental concerns, 384 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,480 baby laughing, babbling, talking. 385 00:23:24,580 --> 00:23:27,060 So, we passed that with flying colors. 386 00:23:28,260 --> 00:23:30,720 18 months is when they next come in 387 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:35,180 and by this time we know there�s something seriously wrong with Billy. 388 00:23:35,380 --> 00:23:41,720 Probably within five or six days, the first sign really was this vacancy. 389 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,240 He wasn�t the same smiley little baby that he was before. 390 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,080 He had a blank expression. 391 00:23:48,100 --> 00:23:50,880 Then the diarrhea kicked in. 392 00:23:50,980 --> 00:23:54,580 His tummy started to get bigger and bigger, bloated. 393 00:23:54,660 --> 00:23:56,560 Rock-hard bloated tummy. 394 00:23:56,620 --> 00:23:58,620 He would start to walk on tiptoes, 395 00:23:58,700 --> 00:24:01,854 his hair fell out, and this dreadful 396 00:24:01,864 --> 00:24:07,318 high pitch scream, sort of whiny scream developed from him 397 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,320 and then came the head bang, 398 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,680 the constant banging against his crib, 399 00:24:11,900 --> 00:24:17,860 the constant banging against the floor or wall or anything that he could find to bang his head on 400 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,520 he would trash it and trash it. . 401 00:24:19,620 --> 00:24:25.06 John and I would lie in bed at night just listening to these thuds, thuds, thuds. 402 00:24:28,300 --> 00:24:29,773 There�s nothing. 403 00:24:29,783 --> 00:24:33,321 He�s now not even noticing his sister he used to play with. 404 00:24:33,322 --> 00:24:36,238 John comes through the front door after work � no recognition 405 00:24:36,248 --> 00:24:37,416 that we were his parents 406 00:24:37,620 --> 00:24:41,120 or this child even belonged to us. Nothing. Nothing. Gone. 407 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,917 I mean, that was the time where 408 00:24:50,931 --> 00:24:53,734 our boy changed from what he was to... 409 00:24:58,180 --> 00:24:59,955 a real... 410 00:25:01,356 --> 00:25:04,883 a real tragic, tragic case 411 00:25:05,233 --> 00:25:09,643 of child who regressed into this autistic state 412 00:25:11,020 --> 00:25:12,703 and lost everything. 413 00:25:13,711 --> 00:25:16,501 Lost everything! 414 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:26,240 The CDC � the way that they do research studies is very reactionary. 415 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,561 They look at something that�s creating the press 416 00:25:29,931 --> 00:25:33,747 and creating a buzz that could actually lower vaccination rates 417 00:25:33,901 --> 00:25:35,160 and that�s what they study. 418 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,620 They don�t study vaccines proactively. 419 00:25:37,940 --> 00:25:41,502 So if Andy had never done his original study, 420 00:25:41,544 --> 00:25:43,659 gotten that published in �The Lancet� 421 00:25:43,782 --> 00:25:46,440 it would have never created the uproar that 422 00:25:46,570 --> 00:25:50,370 rightfully it should have created, and the CDC would have never studied this. 423 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,184 The press conference for 'The Lancet' paper was called 424 00:25:56,185 --> 00:26:00,516 by the dean of the medical school who was the chairman of the media committee. 427 00:26:08,700 --> 00:26:12,245 I had done an extensive research 428 00:26:12,246 --> 00:26:16,583 into measles vaccine safety and MMR vaccine safety 429 00:26:16,681 --> 00:26:21,120 in the pre-licensing phase. In other words, what safety studies had been done 430 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,300 before these vaccines were put onto the market and into children. 431 00:26:25,540 --> 00:26:27,529 The 250 page report 432 00:26:27,767 --> 00:26:31,680 was compiled by me showing that the vaccine safety studies 433 00:26:31,681 --> 00:26:36,415 for MMR in particular, were lamentable. 434 00:26:36,582 --> 00:26:37,520 They were lamentable. 435 00:26:37,660 --> 00:26:41,940 Many, many assumptions have been made about the safety of this vaccine. 436 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,480 And there have been problems which should have been airbrushed. 437 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:51,120 So, I wrote to my colleagues, and the dean, and I said: 438 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,260 'Going forward there are going to be questions about what parents should do next. 439 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,720 I cannot in due conscience support the continued use of the MMR vaccine 440 00:26:59,860 --> 00:27:01,340 having done this research. 441 00:27:01,460 --> 00:27:05,920 I said I will continue to vigorously support the use of the single vaccine, 442 00:27:06,100 --> 00:27:10,360 but can no longer support the use of the triple MMR vaccine. 443 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,140 So the dean, as chairman of that committee, had three choices: 444 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,280 he could have not had a press conference, 445 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,860 he could have banned me from the press conference 446 00:27:21,220 --> 00:27:24,620 or when the question came up, as inevitably it would, 447 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,240 �what the parents do next about vaccinating their children?� 448 00:27:28,660 --> 00:27:30,295 he knew what my response would be, 449 00:27:30,429 --> 00:27:33,217 he could deflect the question to someone else. 450 00:27:33,620 --> 00:27:36,120 When the question came up on the day, 451 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,240 he directed it straight to me. 458 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,602 All I recommended at that press conference 459 00:28:46,603 --> 00:28:50,363 was that parents opt for the use of the single vaccines 460 00:28:50,398 --> 00:28:54,620 single measles, single mumps, single rubella 461 00:28:54,740 --> 00:28:58,580 until the issue had been resolved scientifically. 462 00:28:58,620 --> 00:29:01,360 What happened when I made that recommendation 463 00:29:01,380 --> 00:29:05,520 unilateral decisions were made by the government in the UK to withdraw 464 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,680 the importation license for the single vaccines, 465 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:13,080 �Merck� opting in the U.S. to cease the production of the single vaccines 466 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,896 giving parents no option. 467 00:29:14,897 --> 00:29:18,200 I said to the senior representative of the Department of Health 468 00:29:18,820 --> 00:29:22,880 �Why? If your objective is to protect children against serious infectious disease, 469 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,500 why would you take away the option of how parents do that?� 470 00:29:26,820 --> 00:29:31,120 And she said because if we allow the parents the choice of single vaccines 471 00:29:31,220 --> 00:29:33,760 it would destroy our MMR program. 472 00:29:33,940 --> 00:29:38,100 In other words, the concern was for the protection of the program 473 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,500 over and above the protection of the children. 474 00:29:44,620 --> 00:29:49,500 No one�s career has ever been advanced in the medical industrial complex 475 00:29:49,940 --> 00:29:54,560 by being outwardly and openly critical of the vaccine industry. 476 00:29:54,740 --> 00:29:55,618 I�m Mark Blaxill, 477 00:29:56,238 --> 00:30:00,562 father of a daughter diagnosed with autism back in 1998. 478 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,480 I�ve written two books that have come out of the autism movement 479 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,500 that have been projected into autism advocacy ever since. 480 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,720 Michaela was born typical, everything was fine, 481 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,220 was developing normally through her first birthday. 482 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,940 We have vivid memories of early language 483 00:30:19,060 --> 00:30:21,360 joint attention, lots of play. 484 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,400 She was adorable, beautiful, cute. 485 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:28,580 And then somewhere in the months after she began to slip away. 486 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:33,620 She lost language and she began to retreat into a world of her own. 487 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,499 And at 2 years, 9 months 488 00:30:36,615 --> 00:30:40,892 we got a formal diagnosis of full syndrome autism. 489 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:46,440 It was a hopeless, pessimistic future that was laid out in front of us. 490 00:30:46,580 --> 00:30:48,580 She was going to be disabled for the rest of her life, 491 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,760 likely to be non-vocal, in an institution. 492 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:57,680 And the best thing that we could do was to accept the inevitable. 493 00:30:57,940 --> 00:31:01,288 Part of the story we heard from the Harvard experts 494 00:31:01,289 --> 00:31:03,829 was autism was genetic, 495 00:31:03,864 --> 00:31:07,800 it was low and relatively constant prevalence. 496 00:31:07,980 --> 00:31:09,370 And the more I learned, 497 00:31:09,375 --> 00:31:12,355 the more clear was that that whole orthodox view 498 00:31:12,356 --> 00:31:14,703 was false, completely false. 499 00:31:14,738 --> 00:31:18,460 Revolutions only happen in science when there is an anomaly 500 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,660 an anomaly that the older orthodoxy can�t explain. 501 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,440 With autism the anomaly was the explosion in cases 502 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:29,420 which meant that what people were trying to describe as genetic neurologically based condition 503 00:31:29,540 --> 00:31:31,420 couldn�t be genetic. 504 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:32,480 It could only be environmental, 505 00:31:32,490 --> 00:31:36,200 it could only be some set of things that have happened to children. 506 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,600 and you had to ask the question �What might it have been?� 507 00:31:43,460 --> 00:31:46,797 One of my personal training clients 508 00:31:46,939 --> 00:31:51,444 was a director of programs for LWT, London Weekend Television. 509 00:31:52,060 --> 00:31:54,860 And this guy said �Why don�t you do a program? 510 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,460 and people out there - there may be someone out there with this condition.� 511 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,720 He said �This is going to be an unbelievable story.� 512 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,240 We thought we�ve got nothing to lose. 513 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,190 Right now this child is either going to kill himself because he�s going to smash his head to pieces 514 00:32:08,740 --> 00:32:12,280 or we�re going to go insane because everybody here is miserable. 515 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,392 That program was aired 516 00:32:14,448 --> 00:32:15,690 And 517 00:32:15,725 --> 00:32:19,651 we received 250,000 e-mail hits. 518 00:32:19,927 --> 00:32:23,120 Computers were kind of new then, the whole Internet, computer thing. 519 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,500 Ours crashed. We've set up a Billy Tommy website 520 00:32:26,655 --> 00:32:29,631 just in case somebody, one person might be able to help us. Crashed! 521 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,480 The television station�s computers crashed. 522 00:32:32,620 --> 00:32:36,200 They had never seen anything like this before. 523 00:32:36,660 --> 00:32:40,140 The parents had exactly the same story as us. 524 00:32:40,460 --> 00:32:41,665 Antibiotics, 525 00:32:41,668 --> 00:32:44,089 e isso era depois da vacina. 526 00:32:44,495 --> 00:32:47,011 BANG! The symptoms were all the same. 527 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,540 The diarrhea, the constipation, the high pitch scream, 528 00:32:51,700 --> 00:32:55,040 The banging of the head. We�ve all lived through it, it�s the same story. 529 00:32:55,260 --> 00:32:58,368 And it was Polly�s idea to put all of this stuff together 530 00:32:58,599 --> 00:33:01,507 in a magazine called �Autism File�. 531 00:33:01,609 --> 00:33:05,967 Let�s all ask the questions and maybe someone can help. 532 00:33:05,968 --> 00:33:10,297 These questions from these parents were not being answered 533 00:33:10,298 --> 00:33:12,827 by the doctors that they went to see. 534 00:33:13,605 --> 00:33:16,300 They came to us out of desperation 535 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,600 and we had 45,000 subscribers within four months. 536 00:33:24,460 --> 00:33:29,480 When I originally got the MMR autism data, 537 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,880 I came up with my own analysis plan 538 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,140 and I stepped through logically and systemically 539 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,760 how the data should have been approached. 540 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:42,620 I looked first of all at males versus females. 541 00:33:42,740 --> 00:33:45,240 Then I looked at black males 542 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:50,756 the relative risk of them receiving an autism diagnosis was astronomical. 543 00:33:50,758 --> 00:33:52,898 It was highly statistically significant. 544 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:58,520 I really had to scratch my head and say �I know nothing about the MMR vaccine.� 545 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,040 And so that�s when I originally called Andy. 546 00:34:02,220 --> 00:34:04,960 Wow! Really? 547 00:34:05,780 --> 00:34:09,200 After everything that had happened, everything we�d all been through, 548 00:34:09,300 --> 00:34:13,180 everything that the families had suffered for the last fifteen years, 549 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:19,120 and the CDC had known all along there was this MMR autism risk. 550 00:34:19,580 --> 00:34:24,520 As I started to divulge more the conversations I think it really hit him 551 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:30,580 that this was a major crack in the wall of the CDC. 552 00:34:31,620 --> 00:34:34,640 The first thing that Thompson did was to plot a graph. 553 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,340 A graph of percentage of children vaccinated 554 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,620 against age of first MMR vaccination. 555 00:34:42,380 --> 00:34:45,460 The children with autism are represented by the pink line 556 00:34:45,620 --> 00:34:47,980 and the children without autism by the blue line. 557 00:34:48,180 --> 00:34:51,520 Now, if there�s no link between early MMR and autism 558 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,799 those two lines should track together 559 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,010 whatever the age of the first MMR. 560 00:34:56,180 --> 00:34:59,760 Now, they do track together until they get to fifteen months. 561 00:34:59,940 --> 00:35:04,120 Then they separate and they continue to separate thereafter. 562 00:35:04,700 --> 00:35:09,520 This was the first indication that MMR vaccine was causing autism. 563 00:35:09,860 --> 00:35:12,820 and that finding alone rocked Thompson back on his heels. 564 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,000 This was a huge issue for Andy. 565 00:35:16,340 --> 00:35:20,560 So I said to Brian, �Brian, are you recording these conversations?� 566 00:35:20,940 --> 00:35:24,000 Recording phone conversations was not really palatable to me. 567 00:35:24,180 --> 00:35:25,940 It almost seemed cruel. 568 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,600 Whistle blowers can disappear as easily as they came. 569 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,880 They�re like a fish on a hook 570 00:35:32,720 --> 00:35:34,720 and your job is to get them into the boat. 572 00:35:39,980 --> 00:35:41,980 Temple walked at 12 months, 573 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:48,120 so he had been walking for an entire month before he went in for the next set of the vaccinations. 574 00:35:48,260 --> 00:35:51,288 The minute we walked into the pediatric office, 575 00:35:51,289 --> 00:35:55,333 Lu, his twin, is screaming her head off. 576 00:35:55,740 --> 00:36:00,020 I mean, she knows what�s going on, she doesn�t want the doctor touching her. 577 00:36:00,140 --> 00:36:02,940 I look up and there she�s got the shots lined up 578 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,360 three for him, three for her. 579 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,040 By the second shot, Lucinda had flipped herself over, 580 00:36:09,260 --> 00:36:12,580 so I had to stop looking at what I was doing, 581 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,120 unstrap her and get her out. 582 00:36:15,220 --> 00:36:18,700 Well, the minute I get her down and I calm her down a little bit, I look over 583 00:36:19,060 --> 00:36:24,820 he�s screaming. I look at the shots and I noticed that one of hers was gone. 584 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,640 There are only two shots left for her 585 00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:32,220 and I asked the nurse practitioner, I said, �What happened to the other shot?� 586 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,880 She says �Oh! Oh, my goodness. I gave it to him.� 587 00:36:35,980 --> 00:36:37,600 I said �Which one was it?� 588 00:36:37,801 --> 00:36:40,223 She said �It was the other MMR.� 589 00:36:40,225 --> 00:36:41,380 I said �Call the doctor! 590 00:36:41,720 --> 00:36:47,190 This baby is screaming his head off! You've given him an extra shot I don�t know what the effect of that is going to be. 591 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,338 We�re leaving.� And I left. 592 00:36:48,373 --> 00:36:51,000 so she never got her shots. 593 00:36:51,180 --> 00:36:54,960 I go home. This baby cried, cried, cried. 594 00:36:55,180 --> 00:36:58,200 I put him down on his little blanket. He starts banging his head on the floor, 595 00:36:58,250 --> 00:37:01,100 banging his head on the floor. 596 00:37:01,140 --> 00:37:04,720 The next morning I go in his room 597 00:37:05,050 --> 00:37:14,320 and he�s staring in the space and he�s looking around like this, as if he�s a bit paralyzed. 598 00:37:14,620 --> 00:37:18,489 Not the baby who was doing this every morning 599 00:37:18,634 --> 00:37:21,115 and smiling for me to get him out of bed. 600 00:37:22,900 --> 00:37:24,900 And I pick him up and he does this. 601 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,780 I said �What has happened to my baby?� 602 00:37:28,900 --> 00:37:30,900 So I call the clinic 603 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,368 and I said �I think my child has had adverse reaction 604 00:37:34,369 --> 00:37:37,225 to those shots yesterday.� 605 00:37:37,373 --> 00:37:41,980 She said �No, no, no. I�m waiting for a representative from Merck. 606 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,200 I don�t think it was a reaction to that.� 607 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,160 Bill Thompson looked at African-Americans. 608 00:37:54,260 --> 00:37:58,766 He saw that those African-Americans that got the MMR on time 609 00:37:58,905 --> 00:38:03,372 were 2.64 times more likely to get an autism diagnosis 610 00:38:03,460 --> 00:38:05,080 than those African-Americans 611 00:38:05,082 --> 00:38:08,010 that received the MMR after three years of age. 612 00:38:08,575 --> 00:38:14,475 What this was suggesting is that among the blacks, the ones that were getting vaccinated earlier, 613 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,600 were more likely to have autism. 614 00:38:16,860 --> 00:38:21,680 At that point, the group of researchers that was working on this particular study 615 00:38:21,780 --> 00:38:23,900 they were having weekly meetings. 616 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:29,900 Coleen Boyle who was the Head of Developmental Disabilities branch 617 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:34,440 and Marshalayn Yeargin-Allsop who was one of Thompson�s direct supervisors, 618 00:38:34,500 --> 00:38:39,380 Frank DeStefano who was the Head of the Immunization Safety office, 619 00:38:39,580 --> 00:38:43,360 and then a post-doctoral research associate named Tanya Bhasin. 620 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,205 In that meeting, Thompson brought up 621 00:38:46,208 --> 00:38:49,611 the fact that African-Americans were showing 622 00:38:49,749 --> 00:38:53,812 a highly statistically significant risk of autism 623 00:38:53,814 --> 00:38:55,872 if they got the MMR on time. 624 00:38:56,300 --> 00:38:59,981 What is said in these closed door meetings 625 00:39:00,135 --> 00:39:03,120 I mean, do people say �Oh, well, this is unacceptable� 626 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,900 or do they always say �Oh, this can�t be right� 627 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:08,920 or, �I�m not going to lie, 628 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:13,191 but I also don�t want to say things to you right now 629 00:39:13,817 --> 00:39:18,247 that aren�t some written form.� 630 00:39:18,740 --> 00:39:19,780 Right. 631 00:39:19,940 --> 00:39:24,279 The analysis regarding the African-Americans 632 00:39:24,415 --> 00:39:27,939 was the 8 on the Richter scale earthquake 633 00:39:28,100 --> 00:39:31,080 that just shook through the CDC. 634 00:39:31,620 --> 00:39:35,280 I take him to see the pediatrician that I know 635 00:39:35,820 --> 00:39:39,340 and she looks at me, she closes the door and she whispers. 636 00:39:39,460 --> 00:39:42,280 She says, �Sheila, I believe he has autism.� 637 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,740 I said �What? Like Rain Man?� 638 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,620 She says �Something like that. I�m going to refer you out to neurologist.� 639 00:39:49,900 --> 00:39:52,760 We go see the neurologist the next week. 640 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,760 He says �He has every classical symptom of autism.� 641 00:39:58,020 --> 00:40:00,300 I do not believe this. I was angry. 642 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,620 What he was explaining to me, what kind of autism is, 643 00:40:03,820 --> 00:40:06,540 he told me he was born that way. I said �No, he wasn�t.� 644 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,900 Clearly, there was a very high risk of autism in African-American children. 645 00:40:11,100 --> 00:40:15,200 And here�s the thing: we know that autism is four times more common in boys, 646 00:40:15,420 --> 00:40:20,380 so to see that effect mirrored in the African-American children was a compelling finding. 647 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,377 When I looked at African-American males only 648 00:40:24,546 --> 00:40:27,260 the relative risk was 3.36. 649 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:32,700 It just blew my mind! And that�s when I wanted to call Bill Thompson on the phone, 650 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,100 and his statement to me was �Oh, you found it?� 651 00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:42,080 It appears in the final publication is that race in general is downplayed. 652 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,760 Of course it is downplayed. 653 00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:01,740 Temple�s twin is amazing. She is fluent in three languages. 654 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,520 She speaks French like a native. 655 00:41:05,180 --> 00:41:07,180 She is an A student. 656 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,980 She plays classical piano. 657 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,720 With all of the guilt that I feel from that day, 658 00:41:15,180 --> 00:41:19,780 one of the best decisions I made for her was to walk out of that office 659 00:41:19,860 --> 00:41:21,740 without her being vaccinated. 660 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:27,360 At the end of this journey, I don�t� want to be one of those mothers standing there saying 661 00:41:27,460 --> 00:41:29,440 what I wish I would�ve, could�ve, should�ve done. 662 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,640 I want to be able to say 663 00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:33,700 I gave it everything that I had. 664 00:41:34,460 --> 00:41:36,460 I gave it my best shot. 665 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,681 His twin is going to eleventh grade. 666 00:41:39,683 --> 00:41:44,650 And for someone who still can�t manage to cross the street 667 00:41:44,860 --> 00:41:47,760 now, am I grateful he�s here? You bet! 668 00:41:48,180 --> 00:41:50,680 I�m grateful my son lived, 669 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,620 but I was so naive that 670 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,820 he would live a fulfilling life, 671 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,360 he would end up being a happy man 672 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,000 having a family... 673 00:42:04,820 --> 00:42:06,820 My dreams for him... 674 00:42:09,814 --> 00:42:14,821 And every year that goes by, the older my son gets 675 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:20,380 the further that dream seems to be. 676 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,665 All about vaccines! 677 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,680 So what do vaccines do? 678 00:42:26,700 --> 00:42:28,420 Vaccines build up your immune system 679 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,380 and make you stronger to fight off disease. 680 00:42:30,500 --> 00:42:32,040 Are vaccines safe? 681 00:42:32,180 --> 00:42:35,800 Yes. The studies involving millions of children have shown no connection 682 00:42:35,860 --> 00:42:37,820 between vaccines and autism. 683 00:42:37,860 --> 00:42:39,860 Stick to the schedule! 684 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:45,960 The CDC�s own vaccine schedule which we are required to adhere to as parents in America 685 00:42:46,060 --> 00:42:50,400 recommends that our children get the MMR between 12 and 18 months. 686 00:42:50,620 --> 00:42:54,680 But in this hidden data provided to us by William Thompson 687 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,580 it is clear that for African-Americans 688 00:42:57,740 --> 00:43:00,728 this is actually the most dangerous time to deliver the MMR. 689 00:43:01,540 --> 00:43:05,148 The CDC in my opinion�it�s where I go to 690 00:43:05,459 --> 00:43:07,769 if I need information about an infectious disease. 691 00:43:07,820 --> 00:43:13,020 I probably either go on their website or open one of their reference books every day. 692 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:17,220 That building is filled by a lot of scientists that are smarter than me. 00:43:28,340 --> 00:43:31,920 The analysis plan is one of the most important parts of a scientific study. 696 00:43:32,484 --> 00:43:38,380 It�s the laws or the rules by which a scientist will adhere to while doing the study. 697 00:43:38,460 --> 00:43:42,400 And this analysis plan is put together by the scientists themselves. 698 00:43:42,435 --> 00:43:44,400 Sometimes their superiors weigh in, 699 00:43:44,700 --> 00:43:47,720 but once they�ve locked that analysis plan 700 00:43:47,860 --> 00:43:50,540 they say �This is how we�re going to use the data.� 701 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,920 And you can�t deviate from that analysis plan 702 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,380 or you risk a fraud, scientific fraud. 703 00:43:57,740 --> 00:44:02,380 Did they deviate from the analysis plan after seeing something that they didn�t like? 704 00:44:02,420 --> 00:44:04,120 If they did, 705 00:44:04,300 --> 00:44:06,300 we have a real problem. 706 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:12,000 Thompson not only played a major role in developing the analysis plan 707 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:13,560 he was the numbers guy. 708 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,600 He was responsible for collecting the data, 709 00:44:16,740 --> 00:44:19,360 analyzing the data and presenting the results. 710 00:44:19,660 --> 00:44:21,660 And by November 2001 711 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,120 the results were in. 712 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:29,220 Now, with the MMR autism one, we had an analysis plan 713 00:44:29,380 --> 00:44:32,580 that we were supposed to execute and was written. 714 00:44:35,140 --> 00:44:40,980 Yeah, I�m going to be sharing these draft analysis that we have 715 00:44:41,180 --> 00:44:43,340 and you can see whether we did what we said we�re going to do. 716 00:44:43,580 --> 00:44:48,000 That analysis plan had been agreed upon not only by the co-authors 717 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,120 but also the CDC superiors. 718 00:44:50,220 --> 00:44:52,220 In order to conceal the effect of the MMR, 719 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,660 what they had to do was to reduce the number of children in the study 720 00:44:56,218 --> 00:45:01,903 in order to reduce what is referred to as the statistical power, that is 721 00:45:02,180 --> 00:45:06,960 the ability of the study to detect the difference if one genuinely exists. 722 00:45:06,980 --> 00:45:14,880 In the analysis plan they had agreed to use two sources of information. 725 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,133 The first was the children�s school records 726 00:45:17,305 --> 00:45:20,000 and the second was the children�s Georgia birth certificate record. 727 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,820 So while every child in the study had a school record, 728 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,534 only half of the children in the study had a Georgia birth certificate record 729 00:45:26,535 --> 00:45:28,804 because the other half had been born in other states. 730 00:45:29,145 --> 00:45:31,320 So the analysis plan was explicit. 731 00:45:31,380 --> 00:45:35,577 Information on the child�s race was to come from their school record. 732 00:45:35,789 --> 00:45:37,321 but when confronted with the data 734 00:45:43,176 --> 00:45:46,400 that revealed an increased risk on autism in African-American children 735 00:45:46,580 --> 00:45:49,240 they deviated from their analysis plan. 736 00:45:49,340 --> 00:45:52,444 They chose to get the race data not from the school record 737 00:45:52,446 --> 00:45:54,600 but from the Georgia birth certificate record. 738 00:45:54,761 --> 00:45:57,048 Instead of having 3,000 individuals in the study, 740 00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:08,092 it went down to about 1,800. 742 00:46:08,127 --> 00:46:13,040 The relative risk went down from 2.64 to 1.8, 743 00:46:13,180 --> 00:46:16,196 but more importantly, that relative risk 744 00:46:16,197 --> 00:46:18,583 was no longer statistically significant. 745 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,080 I now ask you to step forward to receive your prize from the hands of His Majesty the King. 746 00:46:28,700 --> 00:46:31,220 I am Luc Montagnier M.D. 762 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,540 Shortly after Julie Gerberding became head of the CDC 763 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:41,320 I began to communicate with her and asked her to come to my office. 764 00:47:41,380 --> 00:47:45,340 There didn�t seem to be objective research going on. 765 00:47:46,720 --> 00:47:51,680 There was CDC trying to promote vaccination for children, 766 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,380 and then they were doing the safety research themselves. 767 00:47:55,520 --> 00:48:01,100 In CDC�s judgment, the best public policy is to continue vaccination unchanged 768 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:06,360 while aggressively working to try to identify causes of developmental disabilities. 769 00:48:06,660 --> 00:48:10,840 CDC, I just thought, was institutionally conflicted. 770 00:48:11,020 --> 00:48:15,103 The CDC can�t take money directly from pharma but they can set up a foundation 771 00:48:15,246 --> 00:48:19,520 and the foundation can attract donations from commercial interests and does. 772 00:48:19,780 --> 00:48:22,584 Merck, GlaxoSmithKline, Pfizer, 773 00:48:22,746 --> 00:48:27,182 Sanofi Aventis have huge multibillion dollar vaccine businesses. 774 00:48:27,619 --> 00:48:29,360 They are profitable, they�ve grown 775 00:48:29,620 --> 00:48:34,740 because some of these new high-tech vaccines that are patented, that are high-priced, 776 00:48:34,980 --> 00:48:37,375 yet protected by this little cocoon 777 00:48:37,519 --> 00:48:40,736 of regulatory capture at NHSS, 778 00:48:40,820 --> 00:48:44,520 and are guaranteed multibillion dollar franchises. 779 00:48:44,780 --> 00:48:48,000 When I was working at Merck, I was a sales rep for Vioxx. 780 00:48:48,020 --> 00:48:52,880 The whole scandal started when it was discovered that Merck had manipulated data 781 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,473 and covered up the fact that Vioxx actually 782 00:48:55,628 --> 00:48:59,501 caused twice the amount of heart attacks and strokes than the placebo. 783 00:48:59,720 --> 00:49:01,408 What I learned from that experience was 784 00:49:01,548 --> 00:49:06,501 just because things are on the market, does not mean they are safe. 785 00:49:08,460 --> 00:49:12,100 I think we get into a very dangerous territory with vaccinations. 786 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,620 If a drug company gets just one vaccine added to the schedule 787 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,980 they can make upwards to 30 billion dollars in one year. 788 00:49:19,220 --> 00:49:24,780 It�s no secret. I think they published their attention 789 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,621 which is they want to create an environment of constant vaccination 790 00:49:26,750 --> 00:49:28,623 from cradle to grave. 791 00:49:28,625 --> 00:49:31,740 They want infant vaccines expanded: flu shots, 792 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:36,049 DTaP boosters, Gardasil shots, meningococcal shots. 793 00:49:36,211 --> 00:49:38,020 They want adult vaccines 794 00:49:38,140 --> 00:49:42,880 you know, they want you and me to come in and get a constant barrage of shots 795 00:49:42,980 --> 00:49:45,360 and then they want vaccines for the elderly. 796 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,680 We have a highly profitable product 797 00:49:47,700 --> 00:49:52,240 because the safety testing isn�t as rigorous as a normal pharmaceutical drug. 798 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:56,760 The gold standard is double-blind, placebo-based, long-term study. 799 00:49:56,940 --> 00:50:00,920 And that just isn�t done with vaccines 800 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:02,778 because they�re classified in a different way 801 00:50:02,923 --> 00:50:04,730 as a public health measure, 802 00:50:04,765 --> 00:50:08,060 and they haven�t been tested in combination with other vaccines. 803 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,360 Yet, doctors give six to nine doses per visit. 804 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,060 It�s insane! 805 00:50:13,180 --> 00:50:16,160 If pharmaceutical drug was tested like this it 806 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:17,800 wouldn�t be on the market. 807 00:50:17,900 --> 00:50:21,880 but because it�s a vaccine and the safety testing is less vigorous, 808 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,920 our children are being experimented on. 809 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,240 I don�t like to look at autism from behavioral perspective. 810 00:50:28,300 --> 00:50:31,800 I look at it more from what causes it in each child. 811 00:50:31,820 --> 00:50:35,260 When I want to define autism I have to say that 812 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:40,097 it�s the inability to detoxify the way you�re supposed to or at the rates that you�re supposed to. 813 00:50:40,237 --> 00:50:42,415 It all has to do with this toxic overload. 814 00:50:42,740 --> 00:50:46,480 These children are not detoxifying from the vaccinations 815 00:50:46,700 --> 00:50:48,568 Same thing with GMO products, 816 00:50:48,651 --> 00:50:50,968 the pesticides in our food. 817 00:50:51,100 --> 00:50:55,100 If I can prevent the child from being exposed to more toxins, 818 00:50:55,340 --> 00:51:01,320 then when I�m teaching the child at least the child is getting better and not continuously getting worse. 819 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,980 Without the doubt, what has happened to Billy has changed his life. 820 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,060 You got a strike! 821 00:51:11,660 --> 00:51:16,880 What I have in my hands now is a 19-year-old man. He�s 6 foot 2, 823 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,200 he�s volatile. 824 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,280 On good days, Billy is brilliant, he�s an angel. 825 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,640 On bad days the slightest thing can trigger him and he's scary 826 00:51:27,860 --> 00:51:30,960 I�m going to go downstairs and get daddy right now. 827 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:32,700 You need to stay up here. Okay? 828 00:51:32,820 --> 00:51:34,500 I�m going to kill daddy right now! 829 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:38,820 Bill, listen to me. I�m going to stay with you up here and you�re going to try and come down, okay? 830 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,200 The reason they become aggressive and dangerous in some cases 831 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:47,160 is because they have no ability to communicate. 832 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,229 Because mommy asked Kent 834 00:51:54,809 --> 00:51:55,316 but... 835 00:51:55,316 --> 00:51:57,084 Kent bringing the sweet corn 836 00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,100 and then bringing in the chickens here. 837 00:52:00,300 --> 00:52:01,730 This is your fault, mommy. 839 00:52:09,521 --> 00:52:11,980 If you were not able to express your needs, 840 00:52:12,128 --> 00:52:17,160 your wants, your desires, your happiness and sadness and so on, you would become aggressive. 841 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,900 That�s often when we see the worst part of autism. 843 00:52:33,060 --> 00:52:36,000 We had to occupy his room and use his video player. 844 00:52:36,340 --> 00:52:39,380 And, of course, that is a massive intrusion in his space 845 00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:41,720 and he�s�he got very upset. 846 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,880 Where else in this house can we play the video? 847 00:52:44,940 --> 00:52:46,680 Remember? Listen, Bill. 848 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,000 Use the stress level, Billy.Stress level down! 849 00:52:49,660 --> 00:52:51,380 Bill, don�t fight daddy. 850 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:57,140 Out there there�s millions of me, there�s millions of Polly Tommys with vaccine-damaged children. 851 00:52:57,300 --> 00:53:02,300 I am telling you this because I do not want you to live the life that I�ve led. 852 00:53:02,460 --> 00:53:05,260 I do not want you to go through the pain, I do not want to see you suffer 853 00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,360 or your family suffer. That is why I�m telling you. 854 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,340 N�o h� outra raz�o pela qual eu deveria ter essa conversa. 855 00:53:10,420 --> 00:53:12,420 I have no other reason to tell you about it. It�s not my concern � my kid�s already damaged. 856 00:53:21,140 --> 00:53:24,220 I am a senior research scientist here at MIT 857 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,400 in the computer science and artificial intelligence laboratory. 858 00:53:26,700 --> 00:53:29,520 I have a bachelor�s degree in biology from MIT 859 00:53:29,660 --> 00:53:32,060 and I have MSEE and PhD degrees, also from MIT, 860 00:53:32,540 --> 00:53:35,800 in electrical engineering and computer science. 861 00:53:36,780 --> 00:53:39,980 I became interested in autism a long time ago when my best friend at the time 862 00:53:40,100 --> 00:53:45,680 had a son who was diagnosed with autism following a DPT shot. 863 00:53:45,740 --> 00:53:48,233 He had a high fever after the shot, seizures a week later 864 00:53:48,235 --> 00:53:51,260 and then was later diagnosed with autism. 865 00:53:51,420 --> 00:53:54,220 We have to accept the fact that autism is new, 866 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:58,640 that before 1930 the rate of autism in the world was effectively zero 867 00:53:59,420 --> 00:54:02,220 and then for a long time was 1 in 10,000. 868 00:54:02,380 --> 00:54:05,320 I got interested in studying autism eight years ago 869 00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,240 when I saw the numbers go up and I was quite alarmed 870 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,400 because I could see that the trend was exponential growth, 871 00:54:10,820 --> 00:54:13,260 and exponential growth is extremely scary. 872 00:54:13,740 --> 00:54:16,940 Since really the mid to late 80s we�ve gone from this low prevalence environment 873 00:54:17,060 --> 00:54:20,074 to a rate of increase where the trend is still vertical. 874 00:54:20,630 --> 00:54:26,169 We have not seen the flattening in trend. 5,840 --> 00:54:31,080 Every couple of years the CDC provides a number of what percentage of kids are diagnosed with autism, 876 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:35,620 and you�ve got the dots going all the way back to 1975. If you draw the line 877 00:54:35,820 --> 00:54:38,180 it is a perfect exponential curve. 878 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,880 If we assume that things are going to continue 879 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,302 as they have for the past 30 years into the future, 880 00:54:43,488 --> 00:54:47,740 we can predict that by 2032, 881 00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:52,040 80 percent of the boys born will end up on the autism spectrum 882 00:54:52,420 --> 00:54:54,840 half the children; 80 percent of the boys. 885 00:55:44,851 --> 00:55:47,990 If you think the vaccine is only a problem for African-American kids 886 00:55:48,094 --> 00:55:49,560 like me, you�re wrong. 887 00:55:49,740 --> 00:55:51,740 There is an even bigger problem, 888 00:55:51,913 --> 00:55:56,060 one that puts all kids at risk, and it�s called isolated autism... 890 00:56:04,240 --> 00:56:06,980 When the CDC researchers set out to do the study 891 00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:11,560 they asked themselves the question, �If early MMR vaccine causes autism, 892 00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:16,020 in which children would we be most likely to find this effect?� 893 00:56:16,540 --> 00:56:17,498 Their answer is children 894 00:56:17,644 --> 00:56:22,565 with no developmental concerns for the first year of life, 895 00:56:22,568 --> 00:56:27,320 children who were perfectly healthy until they received the MMR vaccine. 896 00:56:28,940 --> 00:56:31,680 They called this group �isolated autism�. 897 00:56:31,713 --> 00:56:36,018 Now, this does not refer to an isolated case of autism 898 00:56:36,019 --> 00:56:38,680 or an isolated group with autism. 899 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:44,628 They isolated autism out, so children who had no comorbid conditions 900 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,361 apart from that autism. 901 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,540 No cerebral palsy, 902 00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:54,080 no mental retardation, no visual or hearing impairment, 903 00:56:54,240 --> 00:56:57,340 no epilepsy and no birth defects. 904 00:56:58,420 --> 00:57:03,640 This risk group includes essentially every healthy child in the world. 905 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:10,140 I�m a single father raising a 15-year-old, 906 00:57:10,460 --> 00:57:12,133 severely autistic, 907 00:57:12,457 --> 00:57:15,486 non-verbal, teenage daughter. 908 00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,920 When she was 15 months old she received her round of vaccines 909 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,340 that included the MMR and the DTaP. 910 00:57:21,660 --> 00:57:25,820 She developed a high fever. When the fever broke, she lost everything. 911 00:57:26,060 --> 00:57:29,880 My daughter was six weeks old when I took her in for her vaccination. 912 00:57:30,020 --> 00:57:32,728 Two hours later she had a five-minute seizure 913 00:57:32,935 --> 00:57:35,676 and two hours after that she had another five-minute seizure. 914 00:57:36.11 --> 00:57:40.25 Mommy�s here. Come on. Come on. You�re okay. You�re okay. 00:57:40.26 --> 00:57:45.23 Come on, baby. Come on, babe. You can do it. Come on, baby. Come on, now. 00:57:45.24 --> 00:57:48.20 Come on now. Come on, baby. Come on! 00:57:48.19 --> 00:57:50.21 Keep breathing. Come on, come on, come on. 915 00:57:50,260 --> 00:57:52,900 The vaccination gave her severe brain damage 916 00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,300 and she had seizures every day for the rest of her life 917 00:57:55,420 --> 00:57:57,700 until she died in my arms at the age of 15. 918 00:57:57,860 --> 00:58:00,880 There is no good reason to choose not to get a vaccine! 919 00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,720 He got his MMR and he got his DTP, 920 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,560 and within days he stopped talking. 921 00:58:06,660 --> 00:58:08,660 Projectile vomiting, convulsions. 922 00:58:08,684 --> 00:58:10,399 He went blind in his left eye. 923 00:58:10,500 --> 00:58:13,640 Vaccines took our healthy, happy baby 924 00:58:13,740 --> 00:58:15,740 and made him unwell. 925 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:17,720 She lost all acquired speech. 926 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:22,060 He lost his speech, he lost his eye contact, like the flick of the switch. 927 00:58:22,220 --> 00:58:26,300 If vaccines were unsafe I think this would be an interesting and reasonable discussion. 928 00:58:26,420 --> 00:58:29,480 Obviously some minority get hurt by this stuff. 929 00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,640 I don�t understand why this is controversial. 930 00:58:31,860 --> 00:58:34,680 Vaccines are safe. Get vaccinated. 931 00:58:34,780 --> 00:58:37,600 It�s like �You know what? Shut the fuck up and 932 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,600 let me take every vaccine that Merck wants to shove down my throat.� 933 00:58:40,660 --> 00:58:43,420 Autism is not a side effect of vaccine, 934 00:58:43,580 --> 00:58:47,020 or to say it in another way, because some people don�t want to hear this well, 935 00:58:47,220 --> 00:58:49,420 vaccines do not cause autism. 936 00:58:49.230 --> 00:58:50.119 Hear this well. 00:58:50.120 --> 00:58:51.250 Hear this well. 937 00:58:51.260 --> 00:58:53,319 Please, hear this well. Hear this well. 00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,100 Vaccines can and do cause autism. 939 00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:56,990 My grandson� 940 00:58:57,153 --> 00:58:58,200 Daughter Lily� My daughter� 941 00:58:58,300 --> 00:59:00,160 My son was fully vaccinated� 942 00:59:00,220 --> 00:59:01,200 My son Jackson� 943 00:59:01,300 --> 00:59:03,950 I had a healthy typically developing boy� 944 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:05,000 Please hear this well� 945 00:59:05,100 --> 00:59:07,300 Vaccines cause autism! 946 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,660 One day everyone will know the truth about vaccines. 947 00:59:11,380 --> 00:59:13,380 Hear this well! 948 00:59:18,180 --> 00:59:22,820 I actually think the most interesting results of the elevated ones, or the isolated, 949 00:59:23,020 --> 00:59:26,060 ones that don�t have the other comorbid questions. 950 00:59:26,140 --> 00:59:29,260 The effect is where you would think it would happen. 951 00:59:29,420 --> 00:59:33,880 In isolated autism, he saw a very, very strong effect 952 00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,100 specific to those kids that got the MMR on time. 953 00:59:37,380 --> 00:59:40,640 When Bill Thompson ran those numbers 954 00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,760 he saw an astronomical effect. 955 00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,740 Some of the numbers were actually the relative risks, 956 00:59:46,100 --> 00:59:51,540 were as high as 7 or 8 times higher with these kids 957 00:59:51,820 --> 00:59:55,340 that were diagnosed with just isolated autism, 958 00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,800 no other diagnosis, versus those controls. 959 00:59:58,824 --> 01:00:03,340 Isolated autism is confusing because it sounds small 960 01:00:03,375 --> 01:00:05,363 but it really is a big problem 961 01:00:05,563 --> 01:00:10,076 because all healthy children, no matter what race, are at risk. 962 01:00:10,276 --> 01:00:13,530 For example, my sister�s 18 months old 963 01:00:13,534 --> 01:00:16,913 and she�s supposed to get an MMR shot right now. 964 01:00:17,134 --> 01:00:21,295 But if she does, she�s 7 times more likely to get autism 965 01:00:21,297 --> 01:00:25,690 than if my parents wait until after 3 years old. 966 01:00:25,725 --> 01:00:28,526 So I hope my parents will do it. 01:00:29,294 --> 01:00:31,122 Here�s what�s really scary. 968 01:00:31,322 --> 01:00:33,572 When we look at isolated autism 969 01:00:33,574 --> 01:00:38,096 we see that there�s an up to seven-fold increase in the incidents of autism 970 01:00:38,097 --> 01:00:41,945 between those that received the vaccine between 12 and 18 months 971 01:00:41,947 --> 01:00:44,518 versus those that got it after 3 years old. 972 01:00:44,603 --> 01:00:46,195 But let�s be perfectly clear, 973 01:00:46,230 --> 01:00:50,284 every child in this study had received the MMR vaccine. 974 01:00:50,697 --> 01:00:53,556 What would the numbers be if you compared 975 01:00:53,558 --> 01:00:56,524 children who got the vaccine between 12 and 18 months 977 01:01:04,823 --> 01:01:07,346 versus children that never got the vaccine at all? 978 01:01:07,652 --> 01:01:11,891 This is often referred to as the vax vs unvax study, 979 01:01:12,091 --> 01:01:17,570 and the CDC refuses to do this study, 980 01:01:17,770 --> 01:01:22,340 even though every drug that we take has been through this exact study. 981 01:01:22,375 --> 01:01:26,910 There�s a group who take the drug and then they compare it with the group who do not take the drug, 982 01:01:27,110 --> 01:01:31,151 and they see are there more side effects and complications with the group that takes the drug. 983 01:01:31,351 --> 01:01:36,021 So why does the CDC refuse to do the vax vs unvax study? 984 01:01:36,056 --> 01:01:40,071 Probably because when we look at the results of this study, 985 01:01:40,106 --> 01:01:46,200 we realize that the risk would be astronomical 987 01:01:46,652 --> 01:01:53,783 and it�s likely to be one of the major reasons we�re seeing the skyrocketing increase of autism worldwide. 990 01:01:57,380 --> 01:02:00,534 Just like the African-American children, 991 01:02:00,558 --> 01:02:02,333 they went into the room 992 01:02:02,334 --> 01:02:07,078 and they sliced and diced the data in an effort to get rid of that effect. 993 01:02:07,113 --> 01:02:09,232 This is Coleen Boyle�s meeting notes, 994 01:02:09,832 --> 01:02:12,946 how they planned to present the data by these age groups, 995 01:02:12,981 --> 01:02:15,276 but after the fact when the data are in 996 01:02:15,278 --> 01:02:16,845 she writes �reformat� 997 01:02:17,091 --> 01:02:20,911 and then she puts in new age groups. 998 01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:26,013 Even this failed to achieve the desired effect since 999 01:02:26,048 --> 01:02:29,854 in the end they simply omitted the relevant findings from the paper altogether. 1000 01:02:29,969 --> 01:02:33,270 I was just looking at it and I�m like �Oh, my God! 1001 01:02:33,270 --> 01:02:36,390 I cannot believe we did what we did. 1002 01:02:36,971 --> 01:02:38,794 But we did. 1003 01:02:38,994 --> 01:02:41,918 - Yeah. -So it�s all there. 1004 01:02:42,186 --> 01:02:43,483 And you in the health field, 1005 01:02:43,614 --> 01:02:47,525 you who run our health agencies in this country who are sitting here today, 1006 01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:52,673 you have an obligation to these kids that you just saw there 1007 01:02:52,873 --> 01:02:56,098 to make sure that these studies are complete, thorough, 1008 01:02:56,133 --> 01:03:01,293 so that everybody knows that we have all the facts. And you don�t have that. 1009 01:03:01,493 --> 01:03:05,593 One of the things we did because this was such an important topic 1010 01:03:05,628 --> 01:03:07,564 was to have them be sworn in 1011 01:03:07,714 --> 01:03:13,686 so they were under oath. And if they were doctoring the results of a study 1012 01:03:13,932 --> 01:03:16,532 and they did it deliberately, they committed a felony. 1013 01:03:16,732 --> 01:03:19,088 It used to be 1 in 10,000 1014 01:03:19,785 --> 01:03:26,281 and now it�s 1 in more than 250 kids that are being damaged in this country, that are autistic. 1015 01:03:27,947 --> 01:03:31,586 Now, those kids are going to grow up. They aren�t going to die. 1016 01:03:31,786 --> 01:03:36,165 It�s not like a lot of diseases where they get infected and they drop dead. 1017 01:03:36,365 --> 01:03:40,843 They�re going to live to be 50, 60 years old. Now, who do you think is going to take care of them? 1018 01:03:42,456 --> 01:03:45,701 It�s going to be us, all of us, the taxpayers. 1019 01:03:45,901 --> 01:03:50,594 And it�s going to cost, I think as you said, Miss Mooney, trillions of dollars! 1020 01:03:51,738 --> 01:03:55,344 So we can�t let the pharmaceutical companies and our government 1021 01:03:55,379 --> 01:04:00,560 cover this mess up today because it ain�t going to go away. 1022 01:04:00,595 --> 01:04:05,852 And it�s going to cost the taxpayers trillions more if we wait around on it. 1023 01:04:05,887 --> 01:04:08,667 And for our FDA and our HHS and the health agencies 1024 01:04:08,690 --> 01:04:12,134 to continue to hide behind this facade 1025 01:04:12,284 --> 01:04:14,879 that there have been studies that conclusively prove otherwise 1026 01:04:15,188 --> 01:04:17,032 is just wrong too. 1027 01:04:17,067 --> 01:04:22,228 So the CDC wasn�t just doing this study inside of the bubble. In fact, it was the exact opposite. 1028 01:04:22,428 --> 01:04:23,658 They were under fire. 1029 01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:28,771 You had Congressman Dan Burton in front of the Congress demanding answers about mercury 1030 01:04:28,909 --> 01:04:32,950 and the MMR and vaccine studies and the connection to autism. 1031 01:04:33,090 --> 01:04:35,345 Dave Weldon, congressman from Florida 1032 01:04:35,425 --> 01:04:40,767 is reaching out to Julie Gerberding with serious complaints on how he thinks this entire issue is being handled. 1033 01:04:40,903 --> 01:04:46,028 On top of that, the Department of Justice is requesting files and data from the CDC 1034 01:04:46,063 --> 01:04:50,916 because of a previous study called the Verstraeten study that had so many anomalies 1035 01:04:50,951 --> 01:04:54,835 it looked like scientific fraud was taking place, so they were suspicious. 1036 01:04:54,870 --> 01:04:58,606 So then you look at the e-mails that Thompson�s provided to us 1037 01:04:58,806 --> 01:05:03,515 and you can see that he�s reaching out to his line manager, Dr. Melinda Wharton, 1038 01:05:03,661 --> 01:05:05,936 throwing up red flags saying: 1039 01:05:05,971 --> 01:05:08,714 �I first spoke with you in September of 2002 regarding 1040 01:05:08,750 --> 01:05:10,292 the sensitive results 1041 01:05:10,294 --> 01:05:14,450 we have been struggling with in the MMR/autism study.� 1042 01:05:14,452 --> 01:05:17,223 How do you struggle with scientific results? 1043 01:05:17,937 --> 01:05:23,711 I mean, facts are facts; data are data. That doesn�t make any sense. 1044 01:05:23,911 --> 01:05:28,477 So you�ve got Dan Burton breathing down their necks, the Department of Justice is requesting files, 1045 01:05:28,512 --> 01:05:34,202 and William Thompson finds out that Coleen Boyle has brought in a lawyer 1046 01:05:34,237 --> 01:05:37,863 to help her decide what materials are too sensitive 1047 01:05:38,074 --> 01:05:40,168 to provide to the Department of Justice. 1048 01:05:40,424 --> 01:05:42,783 This obviously freaks William Thompson out 1049 01:05:42,941 --> 01:05:46,453 because later in the e-mail to Wharton he says: 1050 01:05:46,586 --> 01:05:49,109 �I will be hiring my own personal attorney 1051 01:05:49,144 --> 01:05:52,497 and it�s extremely unfortunate that we need to be concerned about whether 1052 01:05:52,654 --> 01:05:57,621 our own legal rights are covered when participating in a study such as this.� 1053 01:05:57,692 --> 01:05:59,485 What�s going on here? 1054 01:05:59,937 --> 01:06:03,651 We have government scientists lawyering up 1055 01:06:03,784 --> 01:06:06,553 over a children�s safety study. 1056 01:06:06,756 --> 01:06:12,133 Clearly this does not sit well at all with Dr. Thompson because at the end of this e-mail 1057 01:06:12,141 --> 01:06:14,996 he makes what it looks to be to me a clear threat: 1058 01:06:15,172 --> 01:06:19,086 �My level of concern has also caused me to seriously consider 1059 01:06:19,121 --> 01:06:22,953 removing myself as an author on the draft manuscript.� 1060 01:06:22,988 --> 01:06:26,972 So then a few days later Thompson writes directly to Dr. Walter Orenstein, 1061 01:06:27,147 --> 01:06:30,266 head of the National Immunization Program saying: 1062 01:06:30,537 --> 01:06:33,377 �I am not interested in taking 1063 01:06:33,379 --> 01:06:37,081 of the political heat that will go along with that study.� 1064 01:06:37,394 --> 01:06:42,109 Thompson has gone all the way to the top of his department. 1065 01:06:42,144 --> 01:06:46,543 I mean, we don�t ever get a response from Walter Orenstein, 1066 01:06:46,578 --> 01:06:50,744 but Thompson is very clear on what happened next. 1068 01:06:54,576 --> 01:06:59,081 The higher-ups wanted to do certain things and I went along with it. 1069 01:06:59,116 --> 01:07:02,738 In terms of chain of command, I was number four out of five. 1070 01:07:02,773 --> 01:07:06,325 Dr. Thompson talked about destruction of documents 1071 01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,858 and that in fall of 2002 1072 01:07:09,029 --> 01:07:14,117 there was a meeting, with the trash can rolled in and they selected documents to be destroyed. 1073 01:07:14,225 --> 01:07:17,406 I led all the analysis with the DeStefano thing. 1074 01:07:17,441 --> 01:07:20,687 Literally everyone else got rid of all their documents 1075 01:07:20,788 --> 01:07:23,975 so the only documents that exist right now from that study are mine. 1076 01:07:24,459 --> 01:07:26,774 These documents were not our federal records. 1077 01:07:26,809 --> 01:07:31,772 They were very important documents because they showed a very strong statistically significant effect. 1078 01:07:31,807 --> 01:07:35,223 He felt that quite rightly it would be illegal to destroy those documents 1079 01:07:35,672 --> 01:07:41,672 and so in his office he kept, along with his hard copies, the computerized files for that study. 1080 01:07:42,090 --> 01:07:46,627 There was a dramatically different result presented 1081 01:07:46,757 --> 01:07:52,757 before and after the timeframe that Thompson alleged that these data were destroyed. 1082 01:07:53,225 --> 01:07:59,225 If I never had the documents before October 2002, there would be nothing 1083 01:07:59,434 --> 01:08:05,355 that would show that they actually had the results in hand and they decided to destroy those results 1084 01:08:05,390 --> 01:08:10,203 I filed a formal complaint to the Office of Research Integrity 1085 01:08:10,238 --> 01:08:12,440 and the Department of Health and Human Services 1086 01:08:12,649 --> 01:08:15,581 I heard back not long after the complaint was filed 1087 01:08:15,616 --> 01:08:21,616 and the letter basically stated that every co-author except for Dr. Thompson 1088 01:08:21,786 --> 01:08:24,785 denied that any such meeting was scheduled. 1089 01:08:24,688 --> 01:08:28,822 They denied that any material was destroyed or thrown away. 1090 01:08:29,100 --> 01:08:33,150 They were calling Dr. Thompson a liar. It was their word against his. 1091 01:08:33,214 --> 01:08:36,806 Dr. Thompson predicted that this would happen. 1092 01:08:37,006 --> 01:08:42,786 There are things I haven�t even shared with you because I can�t prove it 1093 01:08:42,986 --> 01:08:48,200 and that�s what I struggle with. I don�t want to share things with you that I can�t prove, 1094 01:08:48,235 --> 01:08:50,476 that they aren�t hard records, 1095 01:08:51,020 --> 01:08:51,829 because 1096 01:08:52,146 --> 01:08:57,644 I am worried that the other four people will collude and say, �No, that�s not true.� 1097 01:08:58,061 --> 01:09:01,146 Dr. Thompson provided meeting notes to me for 1098 01:09:01,340 --> 01:09:06,931 precisely the time where the co-authors are claiming that no meeting took place. 1099 01:09:07,056 --> 01:09:08,616 That�s what I keep seeing again 1100 01:09:08,956 --> 01:09:10,917 and again and again 1101 01:09:10,952 --> 01:09:13,020 where these senior people just do 1102 01:09:13,817 --> 01:09:18,415 completely unethical, vile things and no one holds them accountable. 1103 01:09:18,417 --> 01:09:20,497 Look, once you have the data, 1104 01:09:20,657 --> 01:09:24,306 a scientific study like this is a relatively simple process. 1105 01:09:24,335 --> 01:09:29,180 You just run the data, you get the results, and then you publish those results in the paper. 1106 01:09:29,215 --> 01:09:33,526 In their own analysis plan this study was only supposed to take six months, 1107 01:09:33,561 --> 01:09:37,277 from May 2001 to December 2001. 1108 01:09:37,312 --> 01:09:39,671 So if they weren�t destroying data 1109 01:09:39,958 --> 01:09:43,779 why did this study end up taking four years? 1110 01:09:43,936 --> 01:09:47,638 The question everybody needs to be asking the CDC is: 1111 01:09:48,115 --> 01:09:54,115 'What the heck happened between October 2002 and February of 2004.' 1112 01:09:55,380 --> 01:09:59,067 The reason you don�t see anything else circulating on the study 1113 01:09:59,102 --> 01:10:02,335 it was five of us behind closed doors for two years. 1114 01:10:03,271 --> 01:10:04,261 Wow! 1115 01:10:05,443 --> 01:10:09,323 So after two years of secret meetings behind closed doors, 1116 01:10:09,347 --> 01:10:13,000 DeStefano emerges with the final draft of the MMR study 1117 01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:16,487 and they�re going to present it to the Institute of Medicine. 1118 01:10:16,620 --> 01:10:19,505 People on the IOM move from: 1119 01:10:19,653 --> 01:10:24,294 industry - government - academia - government - industry. 1120 01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:28,287 And then they bounce around. It�s all the same people 1121 01:10:28,468 --> 01:10:32,059 there wasn�t a really good policeman in all this 1122 01:10:32,094 --> 01:10:37,329 to really make sure that the vaccine safety studies are done properly and that they�re done objectively. 1123 01:10:37,471 --> 01:10:43,200 It just didn�t seem to me like we were running a system that was credible. 1124 01:10:43,235 --> 01:10:47,368 I had written to Julie Gerberding and I asked her to postpone 1125 01:10:47,370 --> 01:10:49,626 the February 9th Institute of Medicine meeting. 1126 01:10:50,150 --> 01:10:55,659 This report, the Institute of Medicine report, I wanted it postponed because of my concern 1127 01:10:55,729 --> 01:11:00,029 that this was not an exercise in discovering the truth 1128 01:11:00,105 --> 01:11:04,366 but was instead the meeting being driven by desire to short-circuit 1129 01:11:04,401 --> 01:11:08,065 important research and draw premature conclusions. 1130 01:11:08,100 --> 01:11:11,730 The problem is William Thompson, being the lead scientist, 1131 01:11:11,754 --> 01:11:14,954 he�s going to have to present their findings 1132 01:11:15,030 --> 01:11:16,907 and he�s not happy about it. 1133 01:11:16,942 --> 01:11:18,750 In fact, he�s so upset 1134 01:11:18,785 --> 01:11:21,179 that he goes above the lead author DeStefano, 1135 01:11:21,214 --> 01:11:23,538 above Walter Orenstein, 1136 01:11:23,573 --> 01:11:27,325 all the way to the head of the CDC, Dr. Julie Gerberding. 1137 01:11:28,225 --> 01:11:29,863 And in an e-mail he says, 1138 01:11:29,898 --> 01:11:31,259 �Dear Dr. Gerberding, 1139 01:11:31,571 --> 01:11:34,908 I will have to present several problematic results 1140 01:11:35,057 --> 01:11:41,057 relating to statistical associations between the receipt of MMR vaccine and autism,� 1141 01:11:41,148 --> 01:11:45,174 basically saying �I�m not going to continue this lie. 1142 01:11:45,209 --> 01:11:48,475 If you put me up there I�m going to tell the truth.� 1143 01:11:48,675 --> 01:11:52,998 Thompson was originally scheduled to provide a briefing 1144 01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:56,208 because he basically told the director Gerberding 1145 01:11:56,380 --> 01:12:00,232 that he would have to say that there is a causal association. 1146 01:12:00,371 --> 01:12:03,926 He was switched at the last minute with Frank DeStefano 1147 01:12:03,961 --> 01:12:06,793 who was able to report to the IOM falsely 1148 01:12:06,938 --> 01:12:10,795 that we have found no association between MMR and autism. 1149 01:12:10,848 --> 01:12:15,211 The IOM was the point of no return. So deprived of the truth, 1150 01:12:15,246 --> 01:12:19,864 the IOM declared the MMR vaccine safe. 1151 01:12:19,899 --> 01:12:24,482 It was a rush to judgment to shut the door permanently 1152 01:12:24,517 --> 01:12:29,242 and completely on the MMR/autism link. 1153 01:12:29,277 --> 01:12:34,120 It�s absolutely appalling that much of what I said turned out exactly to be true. 1154 01:12:34,125 --> 01:12:37,591 They were trying to short-circuit the research. 1155 01:12:37,767 --> 01:12:42,603 It�s the lowest point of my career that I went along with that paper. 1156 01:12:42,638 --> 01:12:45,368 After their brilliant work on the MMR study, 1157 01:12:45,403 --> 01:12:47,980 DeStefano and his team received an award 1158 01:12:48,182 --> 01:12:50,359 from the Department of Health and Human Services. 1159 01:12:50,670 --> 01:12:55,728 And then several years later, Dr. Julie Gerberding received an award of her own. 1160 01:12:55,763 --> 01:13:01,055 a high-paid job as head of the vaccine division at Merck. 1161 01:13:01,090 --> 01:13:07,018 Clearly, Merck had appreciated the work she had done investigating their vaccine. 1162 01:13:11,632 --> 01:13:13,125 Just to let you know, 1163 01:13:13,295 --> 01:13:17,387 I wrote a paper on my results on MMR. 1164 01:13:17,548 --> 01:13:18,298 Yeah. 1165 01:13:18,994 --> 01:13:22,794 And it will include something that I got from you. 1166 01:13:23,146 --> 01:13:25,039 Brian was about to publish a paper 1167 01:13:25,169 --> 01:13:29,410 using data that could only have come from an inside source at the CDC, 1168 01:13:29,556 --> 01:13:34,399 a whistleblower, and from that point forward William Thompson was a marked man. 1169 01:13:34,434 --> 01:13:37,517 Andy approached me and said: 1170 01:13:37,679 --> 01:13:41,107 'It�s time publicize the CDC whistleblower.' 1171 01:13:41,357 --> 01:13:42,980 Ironically, 12 years later, 1172 01:13:43,104 --> 01:13:46,724 while Thompson is baring his soul to Brian Hooker, 1173 01:13:47,115 --> 01:13:49,063 in front of Congress Coleen Boyle is just 1174 01:13:49,431 --> 01:13:52,619 peddling the same old CDC fraud, 1175 01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:57,315 but this time it�s to a new player and that�s Congressman Bill Posey from Florida. 1176 01:13:57,602 --> 01:14:02,595 I wonder if CDC has conducted or facilitated study 1177 01:14:02,702 --> 01:14:05,407 comparing vaccinated children with unvaccinated children yet. 1178 01:14:05,442 --> 01:14:06,278 Have you done that? 1179 01:14:06,614 --> 01:14:10,603 We have actually done a number of studies looking at the relationship between 1180 01:14:10,753 --> 01:14:15,597 thimerosal vaccines and autism and other developmental disabilities. 1181 01:14:15,750 --> 01:14:18,643 The lies from the CDC were still the same. 1182 01:14:18,667 --> 01:14:22,067 The difference now is we had William Thompson. 1183 01:14:22,143 --> 01:14:26,386 Vaccines and their components did not increase the risk for autism. 1184 01:14:27,086 --> 01:14:28,877 My time is very limited here. 1185 01:14:28,912 --> 01:14:30,669 So clearly, definitely, 1186 01:14:30,693 --> 01:14:35,493 unequivocally, you have studied vaccinated versus unvaccinated? 1187 01:14:36,258 --> 01:14:41,150 We have not studied vaccinated versus unvaccinated. Actually -- 1188 01:14:41,180 --> 01:14:45,269 Okay, never mind. Just stop there. That was the meaning of my question. You�ve wasted two minutes of my time. 1189 01:14:45,304 --> 01:14:47,095 Brian had also submitted 1190 01:14:47,229 --> 01:14:51,400 a related paper to a journal called �Nature Neuroscience�, 1191 01:14:51,401 --> 01:14:55,771 and in that paper he had specifically referred to an unnamed source at the CDC. 1192 01:14:55,806 --> 01:14:57,842 And my worst fears were realized 1193 01:14:57,993 --> 01:15:01,612 when a journalist from �Nature Neuroscience� contacted the CDC, 1194 01:15:01,613 --> 01:15:02,919 contacted Walter Orenstein, 1195 01:15:03,087 --> 01:15:07,949 the message went on to Frank DeStefano who sent it out to the co-authors saying: 1196 01:15:08,030 --> 01:15:11,098 �Keep your heads down! This may be coming your way.� 1197 01:15:12,009 --> 01:15:16,214 The fear was all of a sudden we�d be dredging the river for Bill Thompson. 1198 01:15:16,249 --> 01:15:19,369 I said to him �Brian, we�ve got to do three things. 1199 01:15:19,404 --> 01:15:22,934 We have got to get Thompson a whistleblower lawyer. 1200 01:15:22,958 --> 01:15:25,858 We�ve got to make sure that his documents are with Posey, 1201 01:15:25,934 --> 01:15:28,948 and we�ve got to reveal his name. 1202 01:15:28,983 --> 01:15:31,963 Whistleblowers are in danger only 1203 01:15:31,987 --> 01:15:36,987 as long as the only people who know their identity are their enemies. 1204 01:15:40,422 --> 01:15:42,865 Do vaccines cause autism? 1205 01:15:43,065 --> 01:15:47,084 In the last 30 years, the childhood vaccine schedule has tripled 1206 01:15:47,119 --> 01:15:51,103 while the U.S. autism rate has skyrocketed 1207 01:15:51,127 --> 01:15:54,827 from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 50. 1208 01:15:54,903 --> 01:15:57,766 Dozens of published research papers 1209 01:15:57,886 --> 01:16:01,591 show that yes, vaccines and autism are linked. 1210 01:16:01,996 --> 01:16:06,000 Yet, the debate rages on in part because of the 1986 1211 01:16:06,050 --> 01:16:08,530 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act 1212 01:16:08,606 --> 01:16:12,547 passed by Congress as a result of pharmaceutical lobbying. 1213 01:16:13,143 --> 01:16:15,166 It shields drug companies 1214 01:16:15,277 --> 01:16:19,211 from liability for injuries and deaths caused by the vaccines they manufacture. 1215 01:16:19,778 --> 01:16:25,145 Vaccines that the federal government admits are unavoidably unsafe. 1216 01:16:25,180 --> 01:16:28,096 Instead of suing the pharmaceutical company directly, 1217 01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:30,095 parents are forced to petition 1218 01:16:30,096 --> 01:16:32,291 the Department of Health and Human Services 1219 01:16:32,326 --> 01:16:35,407 and if federal officials oppose the compensation 1220 01:16:35,546 --> 01:16:39,850 the case is argued before a special master in the U.S. Claims Court. 1221 01:16:39,997 --> 01:16:43,107 Many refer to this as �Vaccine Court�. 1222 01:16:43,307 --> 01:16:48,266 Here are some shocking facts about the so-called 'Vaccine Court.' 1223 01:16:48,301 --> 01:16:53,226 Pharmaceutical companies do not have to participate in the proceedings at all. 1224 01:16:53,250 --> 01:16:56,850 Taxpayers pay for all damages. 1225 01:16:57,026 --> 01:17:00,893 The U.S. Department of Justice acts as a government�s lawyer 1226 01:17:00,917 --> 01:17:05,117 with taxpayers footing the bill for their defense. 1228 01:17:08,309 --> 01:17:13,237 Beginning in 2002 there were already thousands of cases accumulating 1229 01:17:13,365 --> 01:17:15,008 in Vaccine Court, 1230 01:17:15,110 --> 01:17:20,686 and the average compensation for autistic child is in the range of $5 million. 1231 01:17:20,876 --> 01:17:23,212 So just do the math. The government was facing 1232 01:17:23,236 --> 01:17:27,436 several hundred billion, possibly a trillion dollars in liability. 1233 01:17:27,612 --> 01:17:33,325 As the autism epidemic grew, they had to develop a fraudulent study 1234 01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:35,340 that would exonerate MMR 1235 01:17:35,482 --> 01:17:40,105 to deliberately defeat the cases in Vaccine Court to avoid paying the trillion dollars. 1236 01:17:40,212 --> 01:17:46,212 So, the thousands of autism petitioners were denied their fair day in court 1237 01:17:46,373 --> 01:17:50,373 by a corrupt and deliberate obstruction of justice. 1238 01:17:50,549 --> 01:17:56,329 It is one of the most unethical medical decisions of all time 1239 01:17:56,364 --> 01:18:00,009 because it was made with the knowledge to sacrifice these children 1240 01:18:00,033 --> 01:18:03,833 as a direct affront to the Congressional mandate 1241 01:18:03,857 --> 01:18:05,857 that they�d all be compensated. 1246 01:18:18,510 --> 01:18:22,292 In the fall of last year, I got a call from an inside source 1247 01:18:22,316 --> 01:18:26,116 who told me that in two weeks there�s going to be a whistleblower from the CDC 1248 01:18:26,789 --> 01:18:31,884 who�s going to come out and say that the CDC had committed fraud on the MMR study 1249 01:18:31,885 --> 01:18:35,677 and that they knew that vaccines were actually causing autism. 1250 01:18:36,036 --> 01:18:38,848 I mean, that�s a huge story. 1251 01:18:39,048 --> 01:18:42,734 Unfortunately, it was a story that I would not be able to tell on a medical talk show 1252 01:18:42,769 --> 01:18:46,386 because a lot of our funding was coming from the pharmaceutical industry. 1253 01:18:46,421 --> 01:18:51,399 We were also very good friends with the CDC who had appeared on our show many, many times. 1254 01:18:51,434 --> 01:18:58,240 But I knew that once the story broke, two weeks later, that the mainstream news media would pick it up. 1255 01:18:58,250 --> 01:19:01,500 Fox would be on it, CNN would be on it, MSNBC ... 1256 01:19:01,696 --> 01:19:04,143 We�re talking about the biggest medical story 1257 01:19:04,289 --> 01:19:07,227 in the last decade or two at least. 1258 01:19:07,828 --> 01:19:09,433 So that two weeks came. 1259 01:19:09,468 --> 01:19:12,872 I saw a video that was posted by Andrew Wakefield and Brian Hooker 1260 01:19:12,907 --> 01:19:16,242 and I heard the words of William Thompson and his confession. 1261 01:19:16,277 --> 01:19:21,334 Oh, my God! I cannot believe we did what we did. 1262 01:19:21,573 --> 01:19:22,837 But we did. 1263 01:19:23,308 --> 01:19:25,112 It�s all there. It�s all there. 1264 01:19:25,179 --> 01:19:28,436 And I watched the blogosphere go crazy. 1265 01:19:28,555 --> 01:19:31,762 Tweets, Facebook, social media - 1266 01:19:31,917 --> 01:19:33,292 everybody talking about it, 1267 01:19:33,293 --> 01:19:39,293 but not one mainstream media source went anywhere near the story. 1268 01:19:39,323 --> 01:19:42,383 In fact, on CNN someone put the story up 1269 01:19:42,807 --> 01:19:45,607 on iReport and CNN took it down. 1270 01:19:45,915 --> 01:19:47,827 And in that moment I realized, 1271 01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:49,598 �Wait a minute. 1272 01:19:49,790 --> 01:19:54,380 Not only is my medical talk show being produced by the pharmaceutical industry, 1273 01:19:54,577 --> 01:19:57,177 all of television is. 1274 01:19:57,724 --> 01:20:00,318 We were never going to get this story.� 1275 01:20:01,742 --> 01:20:04,942 But we certainly did get a story. 1276 01:20:05,114 --> 01:20:07,632 A highly contagious measles outbreak. 1277 01:20:07,667 --> 01:20:08,568 Major outbreak. 1278 01:20:08,603 --> 01:20:09,434 Measles outbreak. 1279 01:20:09,469 --> 01:20:11,736 Measles on the march in America. 1280 01:20:11,771 --> 01:20:13,969 This outbreak is showing no signs of letting up. 1281 01:20:14,004 --> 01:20:20,004 But in 2014, the number tripled to 644 measles cases reported in 27 states. 1282 01:20:20,665 --> 01:20:24,607 So it�s really amazing to consider 1283 01:20:24,631 --> 01:20:29,031 the number of cases of autism every year and to contrast that 1284 01:20:29,055 --> 01:20:34,655 to let�s say the number of children who acquired measles by going to Disneyland. 1285 01:20:34,707 --> 01:20:39,469 It�s a tiny number of children who acquired measles 1286 01:20:39,493 --> 01:20:41,054 and it�s a vast 1287 01:20:41,056 --> 01:20:44,838 number of children who are being diagnosed with autism every day. 1289 01:20:47,444 --> 01:20:50,137 We don�t know what causes autism. 1290 01:20:50,172 --> 01:20:54,469 I mean, that�s fair to say. We�re not sure in the scientific community what causes autism, but 1291 01:20:54,504 --> 01:20:56,916 but we know that vaccines do not. 1292 01:20:57,046 --> 01:21:00,147 Now, I�m not saying that Sanjay Gupta is a bad guy. 1293 01:21:00,295 --> 01:21:03,119 In fact, I think that he tries to do a lot of good 1294 01:21:03,154 --> 01:21:05,603 just like many doctors do. 1295 01:21:05,803 --> 01:21:10,987 But if they�re being lied to by the scientific body that provides them with the information, 1296 01:21:11,022 --> 01:21:13,707 what happens to all of us? 1297 01:21:13,907 --> 01:21:18,355 What happens if a good doctor sees the same data that I saw? 1298 01:21:18,628 --> 01:21:21,487 So you�re a scientist basically. 1299 01:21:21,522 --> 01:21:24,759 You�re studying this and you feel one hundred percent comfortable. 1300 01:21:24,761 --> 01:21:28,150 You even said you have kids, so you�re a family person. You would feel very -- 1301 01:21:28,484 --> 01:21:32,242 How long have you been a doctor and what�s your area of specialty? 1302 01:21:32,442 --> 01:21:36,097 Sure. I�ve been a family medicine physician for over 10 years now 1303 01:21:36,132 --> 01:21:39,625 and treating families, everyone from newborns all the way up to -- 1304 01:21:39,756 --> 01:21:41,978 my oldest patient is 96. 1305 01:21:42,215 --> 01:21:44,746 So, do you administer vaccines as a part of that? 1306 01:21:44,770 --> 01:21:46,770 Yes, I do administer vaccines. 1307 01:21:47,155 --> 01:21:50,139 In our clinic we follow the CDC recommendations 1308 01:21:51,237 --> 01:21:53,531 and we give that information to our patients 1309 01:21:53,846 --> 01:21:58,210 and we give them a schedule when their children are going to need to be vaccinated and so on and so forth. 1310 01:21:58,410 --> 01:22:00,217 There�s something I want to show you. 1311 01:22:00,252 --> 01:22:06,252 This is a formal complaint about what they�ve been given by William Thompson, the whistleblower at the CDC, okay? 1312 01:22:06,996 --> 01:22:10,107 There�s also some reference materials in here and things like that. 1313 01:22:10,252 --> 01:22:15,613 I�m just going to give you time to look at it. Study it as long as you want, okay? 1314 01:22:16,415 --> 01:22:20,989 When you feel like you have a grasp of it --I know, it�s going to take some time. I appreciate you taking the time. 1315 01:22:21,013 --> 01:22:23,013 - All right. - All right? Okay. 1316 01:22:25,147 --> 01:22:30,914 So I have sent you what William Thompson has said is the fraud at the CDC, 1317 01:22:30,949 --> 01:22:33,592 all of that data that was missing. 1318 01:22:33,665 --> 01:22:36,658 Did you get a chance to really look it over? 1319 01:22:37,363 --> 01:22:39,684 It�s really unbelievable 1320 01:22:39,847 --> 01:22:44,811 how blatantly the data was switched around. 1321 01:22:45,474 --> 01:22:48,270 It made me question whether or not this organization 1322 01:22:48,500 --> 01:22:52,100 that�s been mandating how I practice medicine the past 10 years 1323 01:22:52,111 --> 01:22:58,111 if they�re lying about this or leaving data out about this particular study, 1324 01:22:58,130 --> 01:23:02,004 what else am I being lied to about? 1325 01:23:04,731 --> 01:23:08,151 I�m still trying to digest it because this study 1326 01:23:08,186 --> 01:23:14,300 which was used to kind of give the definitive answer to us pediatricians 1327 01:23:14,817 --> 01:23:18,417 that the MMR is not related to autism -- 1328 01:23:18,493 --> 01:23:21,069 I kind of feel like I�ve been lied to. 1329 01:23:21,104 --> 01:23:25,683 When they�ve set out to do the study they wanted to look at the data and interpret the data. 1330 01:23:25,883 --> 01:23:30,713 But then there is a piece of data that they chose to ignore. 1331 01:23:30,748 --> 01:23:34,855 The data they excluded was really, really significant. 1332 01:23:34,890 --> 01:23:36,607 Think about it. It�s a big deal. 1333 01:23:36,896 --> 01:23:41,579 It is a big deal for a physician to have to deal with the fact 1334 01:23:41,735 --> 01:23:46,282 that for the past 10-20 years we�ve been potentially... 1335 01:23:47,106 --> 01:23:50,106 destroying the brains of children. 1336 01:23:50,182 --> 01:23:54,006 Everything I�ve been telling my patients for the last 10 years 1337 01:23:55,256 --> 01:23:58,245 has been based on a lie and a cover-up. 1338 01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:01,119 Parents making decisions about their children�s health 1339 01:24:01,326 --> 01:24:04,302 deserve to have the best information available to them 1340 01:24:04,337 --> 01:24:09,088 They should be able to count on federal agencies to tell them the truth. 1341 01:24:09,288 --> 01:24:11,461 Once Brian and I had outed Bill Thompson 1342 01:24:11,599 --> 01:24:13,288 he got himself a whistleblower lawyer. 1343 01:24:13,323 --> 01:24:16,428 He provided all of his documents on the fraudulent CDC study 1344 01:24:16,452 --> 01:24:18,052 to Congressman Posey 1345 01:24:18,104 --> 01:24:19,687 who then went before the Congress. 1346 01:24:19,711 --> 01:24:22,411 Considering the nature of the whistleblower�s documents, 1347 01:24:22,435 --> 01:24:25,135 as well as the involvement of the CDC, 1348 01:24:25,187 --> 01:24:28,422 a hearing and a thorough investigation is warranted. 1349 01:24:29,419 --> 01:24:35,419 So I ask, Mr. Speaker, I beg, I implore my colleagues on the Appropriations Committees 1350 01:24:35,791 --> 01:24:38,591 to please, please take such action. 1351 01:24:38,667 --> 01:24:40,343 Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I yield back. 1352 01:24:41,177 --> 01:24:44,072 It�s now been seven months since Congressman Bill Posey 1353 01:24:44,216 --> 01:24:46,625 urged the Congress to subpoena Bill Thompson, 1354 01:24:46,873 --> 01:24:48,968 and they have done nothing. 1355 01:24:49,306 --> 01:24:51,963 Bill Thompson wants to be subpoenaed by Congress. 1356 01:24:52,780 --> 01:24:56,194 As the CDC employee from the federal government 1357 01:24:56,218 --> 01:25:00,818 he cannot speak voluntarily because of the threat of jail time. 1358 01:25:00,994 --> 01:25:05,145 Absolutely William Thompson needs to go before Congress. 1359 01:25:05,293 --> 01:25:07,343 He needs to go before the whole nation. 1360 01:25:07,378 --> 01:25:11,050 Everybody needs to see what he has to say. 1361 01:25:11,250 --> 01:25:14,307 He needs to be deposed in front of a committee in Congress, 1362 01:25:14,459 --> 01:25:18,216 and Julie Gerberding has to be brought in and deposed 1363 01:25:18,251 --> 01:25:21,055 because this is a very, very, very disturbing revelation. 1364 01:25:21,090 --> 01:25:23,436 For this researcher to come forward and 1365 01:25:23,460 --> 01:25:29,460 be saying now that they were indeed deliberately concealing critical information 1366 01:25:29,684 --> 01:25:31,684 about an MMR/autism link -- 1367 01:25:32,236 --> 01:25:34,656 a horrible, horrible development. 1368 01:25:34,691 --> 01:25:37,077 Deviation from an analysis plan, 1369 01:25:37,714 --> 01:25:39,531 omission of crucial data, 1370 01:25:40,402 --> 01:25:42,223 destruction of documents, 1371 01:25:42,423 --> 01:25:44,065 obstruction of justice, 1372 01:25:44,815 --> 01:25:46,502 misleading the Congress, 1373 01:25:46,537 --> 01:25:50,025 grievous harm to innocent children 1374 01:25:50,535 --> 01:25:52,996 � this has to be investigated. 1375 01:25:53,196 --> 01:25:57,004 You and I are in agreement. Vaccine safety should not be in the CDC. 1376 01:25:57,166 --> 01:26:02,152 Absolutely. And, of course, an agency like the National Transportation Safety Board. 1377 01:26:02,187 --> 01:26:07,403 The next thing they need to do is they need to -- somebody needs to re-introduce the Weldon-Maloney bill. 1378 01:26:07,438 --> 01:26:09,562 It needs to be very, very quickly enacted 1379 01:26:09,693 --> 01:26:15,125 and you need to take all of the vaccine safety responsibilities out of the CDC. 1380 01:26:15,161 --> 01:26:20,496 These children have been maimed by the actions of Coleen Boyle, 1381 01:26:20,749 --> 01:26:24,747 Frank DeStefano, Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop and Tanya Bhasin. 1382 01:26:24,976 --> 01:26:28,855 My son has been debilitated for 17 years. 1383 01:26:28,890 --> 01:26:34,842 I think jail time is too good for these individuals who have perpetrated such fraud. 1384 01:26:35,074 --> 01:26:41,074 The notion of vaccinating children, protecting children against serious infectious disease, 1385 01:26:42,759 --> 01:26:46,056 with vaccines that are safe and effective 1386 01:26:46,587 --> 01:26:48,249 is laudable. 1387 01:26:48,449 --> 01:26:51,668 You hear about measles outbreaks in Disneyland 1388 01:26:51,794 --> 01:26:53,933 and then they try and sell you MMR. 1389 01:26:53,968 --> 01:26:58,730 We didn�t see autism being reported as a consequence of the single vaccine, 1390 01:26:58,765 --> 01:27:00,848 only of the triple vaccine. 1391 01:27:00,883 --> 01:27:06,389 So my feeling is that we need to review vaccination policy across the board. 1392 01:27:06,424 --> 01:27:10,257 But in the first instance, I do believe that we can make the problem 1393 01:27:10,556 --> 01:27:12,080 far less 1394 01:27:12,314 --> 01:27:14,712 if we separate those vaccines 1395 01:27:14,865 --> 01:27:18,757 out into their single measles, mumps and rubella. 1396 01:27:19,218 --> 01:27:23,343 I just cannot imagine what it will be like if we really do face 1397 01:27:23,378 --> 01:27:27,469 a future in which half the children born end up on the autism spectrum. 1398 01:27:27,504 --> 01:27:29,177 I mean, it will be so disruptive of the school system. 1399 01:27:29,212 --> 01:27:35,068 There�ll be so little money to be able to spend on the normal children to help them, to bring them up and to educate them. 1400 01:27:35,468 --> 01:27:37,937 We�re just going to have extremely sick children 1401 01:27:38,061 --> 01:27:41,797 and parents that will be so distracted by 1402 01:27:41,832 --> 01:27:46,173 the challenge of bringing up these children that are so sick 1403 01:27:46,208 --> 01:27:49,191 that our society will not be able to focus on anything else. 1404 01:27:49,226 --> 01:27:55,226 The implications of that for our country, for competitiveness as a nation, for economy, are massive. 1405 01:27:55,527 --> 01:28:00,069 They must know and they do know that there�s a national emergency. 1406 01:28:00,104 --> 01:28:04,611 I mean, this is going to be a complete catastrophe if we just let it happen. 1407 01:28:07,681 --> 01:28:09,231 What will you say 1408 01:28:09,807 --> 01:28:13,412 the next time a mother sitting there with her baby in her hands 1409 01:28:13,682 --> 01:28:19,051 says: �Dr. Rachel, is the MMR vaccine safe?� 1410 01:28:21,660 --> 01:28:27,660 I�m going to tell her. I�m going to say, �You know, honestly, I�m not going to give the MMR vaccine to my babies 1411 01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:30,433 and here�s why�� 126060

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