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A lot of money
to watch that shower of shite!
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No effort, no class, no fucking idea!
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Over here, man!
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You're not fit to wear the shirt
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You're not fit, you're not fit
You're not fit to wear the shirt
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It's like your first day of school again,
to be honest.
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It's always a little bit nerve-racking,
I think, meeting new players.
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I only know a couple of them
to be fair.
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It's a club that shouldn't be
in this league,
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and it should have a great chance
of going back up.
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So, it was a no-brainer to come play here
at a big stadium and a big club,
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and I can't wait to get going.
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-This must be Jonny Williams, is it?
-Yeah.
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-I'm Andy. Pleased to meet you.
-Hi, Andy. Jonny.
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You know where to go?
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-No.
-No?
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-This is Adam.
-Hi, Adam.
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-Who's that?
-Jonny.
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Nice to meet you.
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How are you, mate?
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I think when we look at Jonny,
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we were looking for a player
that's got that something different,
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that little bit of... creativity.
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Okay. That's yours.
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All he needs to do is keep fit,
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and we'll see a real talented player
in our books.
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And fingers crossed,
that becomes the case.
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Hopefully, we'll get the supporters
on the edge of their seats.
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Watch the door, mate.
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Sorry.
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Hello. How are you? You all right?
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All right, men.
Thanks very much for coming in.
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Marc, Jonny, and Callum,
we're bringing 'em in
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'cause we know they're good players,
and they can improve the squad.
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They'll give the other players
a kick on the backside and say,
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"We came to make a better team,
and we're gonna take your places."
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Which ultimately, then lifts the bar
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for the players who are already
in the team at this moment of time
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if they want to stay in the team
for the next game and games after that.
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Outside leg kick, Jonny.
Let's get it a little bit quicker now!
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As a manager, you gotta do
whatever is required to be successful.
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Stay outside. Leg work.
Couple across as well.
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Every manager knows we'll be the ones
who suffer the consequences
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if it doesn't go your way.
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Grayson's come in and spent 1.5 million
on about ten players altogether.
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Some of them are looking good.
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The players are good enough
to get promotion.
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On paper, that team's definitely
good enough for it.
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Good afternoon.
It's Sunderland versus Sheffield United...
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in this glorious sunshine.
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In the opening, couple of minutes here
at the Stadium of Light.
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You've gotta grab the bull
by the horns today, haven't you?
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People say it'll take time.
We haven't got that time now.
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We've gotta start stamping our authority
on this division.
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So many new players here
for Sunderland tonight.
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That it's very much, still,
a getting-to-know-you exercise.
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Now, Williams is down.
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It's a blow for Williams.
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And Sunderland have lost another game
on their home turf.
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Every manager will tell you, get a result,
and you can pick the same team.
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Through different circumstances
of injuries, suspensions, illness,
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we’ve not been able to do that.
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It's always the first game
you look to get off to a good start and...
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it wasn't meant to be. It was tough.
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Sunderland versus Nottingham Forest today.
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Ruiter's in goal.
He's preferred to Jason Steele.
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That doesn't help anybody. I mean...
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I think I started the season,
we lost one game, and I was off the team.
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What you meant to do with that?
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I didn't really expect me to play
to be honest.
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Because we were in the hotel already.
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Suddenly, five minutes before,
I get a text from the goalkeeper coach.
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It was quite surprising.
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Normally, you get a good preparation
for the game.
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To be honest, for me,
it was not an ideal way to hear it.
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It is what it is. That's why managers
get paid, to make decisions.
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I've just got to keep training
and get back in.
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Unhappiness abounds.
It's not a pretty picture.
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You look all over the place.
The defense is absolutely terrible.
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There's a lot of problems here.
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We'd all love to be picking
the same team every week
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'cause it means the team's winning.
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When you're not winning, you gotta find
a winning formula to get a result.
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Steele is back in goal,
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but it's gonna be a battle
against a resilient Ipswich team.
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And a flick, and they score!
Headed past Steele.
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And Ipswich lead after five minutes.
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Coming in, I didn't know I was playing,
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but I felt really confident.
I felt good.
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-They've scored again!
-I can't believe that.
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It's tough.
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It's embarrassing. I tell you what.
They're getting a lesson tonight.
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And it's gone over the line!
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Sunderland are a shambles.
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If there are many individuals,
there's not a team.
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Is that basically what's happening here?
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I can't even say that,
because we're a good group of lads.
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We all get on,
we all wanna fight for each other,
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but it just seems... I don't know.
It's hard to bear.
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We started off fairly well
in the top six.
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And where are we at now? The bottom.
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Everybody's slating Simon Grayson
at the moment.
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I really don't think it's Simon Grayson.
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He's doing the best with what he's got.
He's been given a bad team to start with.
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Fans obviously feel,
"Is the club in freefall?"
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Can you reassure them that you aren't
far away from turning things around?
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There's been some fans
that say this club is unmanageable.
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Have you been here long enough to realize
why so many managers of great pedigrees
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have come here and not been able to do it?
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Look, I'm getting an understanding
of what's entailed with this job
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and what comes with the territory.
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Some have probably been foolish
in what they've done in this job.
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Some have been unlucky.
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Hopefully, I'm a lucky one and a good one
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that'll be able to get a result
that turns it around again.
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Thank you. Cheers.
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When you're a manager, you know
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that sometimes
it's not always gonna go your way.
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It's a difficult stage of the season,
and for me, professionally, as well,
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and for the players, and the supporters.
We're all hurting at this moment,
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because we're not getting the results
that we want.
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Welcome along to the Wise Men Say podcast,
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where I'm just gonna point out
that the 17th of December...
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last year,
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was the last time Sunderland
won a game of football at home.
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At the time of talking, it's October 2017.
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In that time, we have played
Liverpool, Burnley, Stoke,
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Spurs, Southampton, Man City, Burnley,
Manchester United, West Ham, Bournemouth,
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Swansea, Celtic, Derby, Leeds,
Sheffield United, Nottingham Forest,
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Cardiff City, Queens Park Rangers,
and we've not won a game of football.
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Clocks have changed twice.
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-Good evening, everybody.
-Good evening.
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Obviously, you know
all these gentlemen up here,
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but briefly, Kevin Ball,
Simon Grayson, Martin Bain,
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Tyias Browning, and Duncan Watmore.
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We're just delighted
to be here this evening.
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We come understanding where we're at.
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Sunderland Football Club does not want
to be where it is currently,
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either on the pitch or off the pitch.
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If there's anything what we can hopefully
get across to you this evening
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before we leave,
and indeed, you need to believe it,
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is that we are trying. We are determined.
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There's obviously an awful lot of apathy
around the club at the moment.
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There's a lot of negativity.
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Who's actually leading the way
to generate something positive,
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something we can hold on to?
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I'd like to think that those
who give a fair opinion on things
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will look at the team and say, "You know
something they are trying every way.
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They're not going through the motions
of not caring for the football club."
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Does anybody disagree with me?
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-I disagree with that.
-That the players don't try?
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And a lot of teams-- You're sitting
or standing with the fans,
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and the fans are saying,
"Certain players are just not trying."
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-They're just not trying--
-All the players on the club now
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want to be there for the sole reason--
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To a lot of supporters, some of them just
don't seem like they're trying. When--
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There's a difference, sometimes,
between trying and being less confident,
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and having
that sort of confidence knocked.
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We've had 20-minute periods of games
where we've done really well.
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And all of a sudden, we make a mistake,
you all go, "Here we go again."
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I'm not saying it's a criticism
of supporters, far from it.
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I'm saying confidence plays a big part
in the sport, and we have to restore that.
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From our point of view, what we see is,
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we get to the pub, it's half empty.
The concessions are closed.
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You go for a drink in The Victory Club
after the match, there's no people.
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Everything seems to be getting
on top of everybody.
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If that's the case, what could we do then,
apart from winning games?
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What else is there that we can do
that would help,
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for example, fill your bus?
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If I had an answer,
I would be knocking on your door,
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saying, "Try this."
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No, I'm just sort of trying get across
to you what it's like as a fan.
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I think, stop kidding yourselves.
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If you think we're just worried
about results, and results will change.
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We've probably sat here watching
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the worst football tournaments
ever played.
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You're in charge now.
You're the face of Sunderland AFC.
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So the question for you,
what is your ambition for Sunderland AFC?
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-Not anybody else's, yours.
-To change your attitude.
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Is Simon Grayson
gonna be given a chance?
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Can you sit there and say,
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"He's gonna be my man
at the end of season"?
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It is a results-driven business.
We all know that.
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It's results-driven for me.
It's results-driven for Simon.
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No, I'm not going to...
I thought I might get this question.
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I'm not gonna sit here and put guarantees
on the table for any of us.
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It's been a dark place,
especially the last few weeks
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with everything that's gone on.
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I think everybody's gotta turn
into a positive, if you can.
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It's easier said than done at the minute.
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The one thing we're trying to do
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is to bring the confidence
back to the players.
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All the bad habits have reappeared again
from the previous season
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or the season before that.
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Even the players we brought
in the transfer window
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have still not hit the ground running.
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We need to get them up to speed
with conditioning work.
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Outside men moving up and down the line.
Don't just stand there.
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Turn to the middle as well
if you need to.
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Cutting out the errors that are gonna
really contribute towards winning matches
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rather than drawing them
or losing them at this moment in time.
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Get up! Frog jumps.
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Get up! Drive!
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What we've always said,
this isn't gonna happen overnight.
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I haven't got this magic wand that will
suddenly turn the club around overnight.
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30 seconds, that's all.
Everything full tilt now.
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Move the ball quickly.
Get the heart rate going now as well.
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It's like the Titanic or a big juggernaut
you're moving around in a slow manner.
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And it's probably
too slow for some people,
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but that's just where we are
as a football club.
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We're in a bad run of form.
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We need to win a football match
regardless of who it is.
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It's evident where we are now.
We've got to fight for survival, and...
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while everybody at the football club
can play their part,
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they can't influence what happens
when those players run over the line.
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That's up to Simon and his team.
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Second bottom of the Championship.
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You've gotta keep plugging away,
but that's not good enough.
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Simon knows it. I know it.
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It's just not what was envisaged at all.
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Simon and I had a conversation
this morning on that subject.
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I'm not the type to interfere
in Simon's domain.
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But it's a really, really big game
at Brentford.
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If we don't win, we feel that, likely,
we'll go to the bottom of the league.
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And when... You know,
okay, we're nearly there,
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but if you hit that rock bottom...
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So we just gotta win.
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Sunderland boys are in town
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The Sunderland boys
We are the cock of the North
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We hate magpies and boro of course
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And Leeds!
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We only drink Vauxies
We never drink brown
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The Sunderland boys are in town
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We've got a manager who's only here
because nobody else wanted to be.
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Simple as that.
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The only person who took the job
'cause nobody else fucking wanted it.
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We didn't spend much in the transfer
market. Everyone knows that.
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We've kept players like Ndong,
Koné, Cattermole.
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These players should be bossing.
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They were decent players
in the Premier League,
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never mind the Championship.
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The way we're playing,
that's not happening.
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That brings you back to the manager.
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Sunderland 'til I die
I'm Sunderland 'til I die
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I know I am, I'm sure I am
I'm Sunderland till I die
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The manager,
over the last couple of weeks,
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I do think he has had the experience
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and the guys who could, I thought,
do a job for him on the pitch,
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and he's left them out.
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Simon Grayson still has one or two
of his key players on the bench.
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Gibson was playing well
but seems to have fallen out of favor
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with the manager
after his outburst earlier in the season.
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It's frustrating sitting on the bench
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and thinking, "I could come on,
or I could make a difference here."
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And then not really getting a chance
to do it.
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Sunderland are in their away colors,
turquoise blue,
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and confusingly,
Brentford in red and white.
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We're at the bottom of the Championship.
We're so desperate to see just a win.
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Just win a couple of games, you know.
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A lot goes through your mind
when you're stood on the touch line.
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Hopefully, the players will do the job
that everybody wants us to do
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and desperate to do.
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Come on, Sunderland!
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Trouble in the middle, and the ball
comes through for Watford up the post,
265
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and the follow up will be put away!
266
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And Brentford lead in by a goal to nil...
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after just eight minutes.
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Push in!
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Outside!
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Ball up here now to Grabban!
271
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Grabban's got an opportunity
in the penalty area!
272
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And he slots it home!
273
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Grabban equalizes in the 12th minute.
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A cool finish in the bottom right corner,
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and Sunderland are level.
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Brentford 1, Sunderland 1.
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We are Sunderland! We are Sunderland!
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We are Sunderland! We are Sunderland!
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They're lined up behind the penalty spot.
280
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And the ball swept in here,
punched over the...
281
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Punched into his own net
by the goalkeeper.
282
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The goalkeeper punched in the air,
dropped down over and into the corner,
283
00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:46,875
and Sunderland lead 2-1.
284
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Watmore down the right,
into the penalty area.
285
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He's gone down, and it's a penalty!
286
00:18:55,134 --> 00:18:58,595
Watmore nudged down,
and it's a penalty kick to Sunderland.
287
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They may well go 3-1 up at the interval.
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00:19:06,228 --> 00:19:09,857
Sunderland fans gearing up,
getting behind the team.
289
00:19:09,940 --> 00:19:14,570
A chance for Sunderland to put this game
to bed before the interval.
290
00:19:14,653 --> 00:19:16,655
It's Brentford 1, Sunderland 2.
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00:19:16,738 --> 00:19:19,116
Grabban to take this penalty.
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The whistle blown,
and Grabban comes forward here.
293
00:19:23,745 --> 00:19:25,664
He launched the ball in the middle.
294
00:19:25,747 --> 00:19:28,041
Brentford 1, Sunderland 3.
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Lewis Grabban with his second
of the game.
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Half-time. The whistle has blown.
297
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Sunderland well and truly
in the driving seat now.
298
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Is this possibly the match
that is the turning point for Sunderland?
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We are Sunderland! We are Sunderland!
300
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We're about to get this underway.
301
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As the whistle's blown...
302
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And the referee's blown for a free kick
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to Brentford at the edge
of the penalty area.
304
00:20:52,626 --> 00:20:56,088
We were talking beforehand
about set pieces and corners...
305
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at Preston, conceding that free kick.
306
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And that was in a similar position.
307
00:21:16,149 --> 00:21:18,986
And now the free kick from Jozefzoon.
He scores!
308
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,241
Brentford immediately pulled a goal back
at the start of the second half...
309
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I told you. I told you 30 seconds in.
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...lifting it over the wall,
on the right-hand side, beyond Steele.
311
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It's Brentford 2, Sunderland 3.
312
00:21:35,252 --> 00:21:37,254
And that's the start
what Brentford wanted.
313
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And that's the start
what Sunderland didn't want.
314
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But once you put yourself in the position
of 3-1 up, you should not lose the game.
315
00:21:51,393 --> 00:21:52,853
3-2 to Sunderland.
316
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Jozefzoon now at the edge of the D
on his left foot.
317
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Fuck off!
318
00:22:01,903 --> 00:22:05,282
Jozefzoon has brought Brentford level.
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00:22:05,365 --> 00:22:08,618
Brentford 3, Sunderland 3.
320
00:22:32,351 --> 00:22:34,061
Over here, man!
321
00:22:34,811 --> 00:22:36,438
Fuck off, man!
322
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Get over here!
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00:22:39,733 --> 00:22:42,986
You're not fit
You're not fit to wear the shirt
324
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You're not fit to wear the shirt
325
00:22:45,989 --> 00:22:50,369
You're not fit, you're not fit,
you're not fit to wear the shirt
326
00:22:50,452 --> 00:22:54,456
In 45 minutes, in a crucial match,
with where we're at in the league,
327
00:22:54,915 --> 00:23:01,546
we lose two goals, and you go, literally,
from half-time, the world is great,
328
00:23:01,630 --> 00:23:03,131
the team are making progress,
329
00:23:03,215 --> 00:23:06,885
and we'll start to climb
the Championship, to utter disbelief.
330
00:23:07,135 --> 00:23:11,056
Martin is someone who's very much
gonna give managers time.
331
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When saying, "Sunderland in the relegation
zone? Is Simon Grayson under pressure?"
332
00:23:15,268 --> 00:23:18,397
Do you feel more relaxed about it
knowing you've got a guy like that
333
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,607
who is not gonna make a rash decision?
334
00:23:20,690 --> 00:23:24,820
I have a conversation with Martin,
nearly every day, and we talk things.
335
00:23:24,903 --> 00:23:26,738
The conversation we had on Wednesday was
336
00:23:26,822 --> 00:23:29,783
we're both in this together,
and we're desperate to put it right.
337
00:23:29,866 --> 00:23:32,369
He employed me 'cause he thought
I was the right for the job,
338
00:23:32,452 --> 00:23:33,912
and his view hasn't changed.
339
00:23:36,123 --> 00:23:38,291
That's the worst second half performance
340
00:23:38,375 --> 00:23:41,503
I've seen from the Sunderland side
in about ten years.
341
00:23:41,586 --> 00:23:43,588
Anyway, Ellis, get out.
342
00:23:43,672 --> 00:23:45,924
Grayson out! Grayson out!
343
00:23:46,007 --> 00:23:49,261
The club's round full of cancer,
from top to the bottom. It's a joke.
344
00:23:49,553 --> 00:23:51,888
I would agree with Grayson out,
like definitely.
345
00:23:52,764 --> 00:23:55,267
There is anger towards one man
at the moment.
346
00:23:55,559 --> 00:23:57,561
Simon Grayson's the man
in the firing line.
347
00:24:03,775 --> 00:24:05,694
Disappointing to say the least.
348
00:24:11,116 --> 00:24:12,200
I don't know...
349
00:24:13,910 --> 00:24:15,328
where we go from here.
350
00:24:17,456 --> 00:24:19,624
Today was a day
when we needed three points.
351
00:24:22,335 --> 00:24:24,129
We have a manager who would first say,
352
00:24:24,212 --> 00:24:27,174
if he was here this evening,
that he's not happy with the results.
353
00:24:27,257 --> 00:24:30,635
And he knows we're in a results-driven
business. Ultimately,
354
00:24:30,719 --> 00:24:33,722
a manager is responsible for his team,
and if it doesn't perform...
355
00:24:34,639 --> 00:24:39,436
I do see, in a sense,
an environment that has changed,
356
00:24:39,519 --> 00:24:43,607
and I see lots of positives that
are masked by, obviously, the results.
357
00:24:43,690 --> 00:24:46,193
Fundamentally,
we're in the results business.
358
00:24:47,444 --> 00:24:52,157
And those results speak volumes.
359
00:24:53,575 --> 00:24:57,412
There's a heavy weight of responsibility
on my shoulders in terms of...
360
00:24:58,997 --> 00:25:00,207
where we go from here.
361
00:25:15,472 --> 00:25:17,432
I keep saying, "I'll take responsibility,"
362
00:25:17,516 --> 00:25:20,685
but players have to take responsibility
of what they're doing as well,
363
00:25:20,769 --> 00:25:23,522
because they're not doing
what they're supposed to be doing.
364
00:25:25,106 --> 00:25:26,566
When they cross that white line,
365
00:25:26,650 --> 00:25:30,111
it's very difficult for a manager to have
too much influence on what happens.
366
00:25:35,700 --> 00:25:38,328
For 31 years,
I haven't been doing too badly,
367
00:25:38,411 --> 00:25:40,288
but I know very quickly it can change,
368
00:25:40,372 --> 00:25:42,874
and you could be out of work
for a long time.
369
00:25:45,335 --> 00:25:48,922
Ultimately, I want to prove to people
I'm good at what I'm doing,
370
00:25:49,005 --> 00:25:50,549
and I'd just miss football.
371
00:25:50,632 --> 00:25:53,260
I don't know what else
I'd do without football, to be fair.
372
00:25:53,343 --> 00:25:56,763
I won't be able to sit around,
doing nothing at home. That's for sure.
373
00:26:00,433 --> 00:26:02,978
If you want to manage anything in life,
374
00:26:03,353 --> 00:26:05,355
there's three things
you've gotta be good at:
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00:26:05,438 --> 00:26:08,275
man management, motivational skills...
376
00:26:08,733 --> 00:26:11,236
and tactically or technically right.
377
00:26:11,945 --> 00:26:15,240
And unfortunately,
I don't think Mr. Grayson...
378
00:26:15,949 --> 00:26:18,702
is top of the tree
when it comes to those three things.
379
00:26:20,036 --> 00:26:22,455
We've been like this
for five or six seasons.
380
00:26:22,664 --> 00:26:25,625
It's getting to a point
where me love's starting to wane.
381
00:26:30,422 --> 00:26:33,592
It's a bit uncomfortable
when there's a lot of speculation stuff.
382
00:26:33,675 --> 00:26:37,137
Can you say, categorically to the fans,
you can absolutely turn this around?
383
00:26:37,220 --> 00:26:38,179
One-hundred percent.
384
00:26:38,263 --> 00:26:41,141
I've been through stages in my career
as a manager, as a player,
385
00:26:41,224 --> 00:26:44,519
where I've had tough times and not quit.
I stick my chest out.
386
00:26:44,603 --> 00:26:46,771
I had the balls
to come to this football club,
387
00:26:46,855 --> 00:26:48,440
and show what I wanted to do,
388
00:26:48,523 --> 00:26:51,776
and trust my ability
that I can make a good club great again.
389
00:26:51,860 --> 00:26:54,404
There's a lot of obstacles
that have gotten in the way
390
00:26:54,487 --> 00:26:58,074
in the past, since I've been here,
and other obstacles that I didn't realize
391
00:26:58,158 --> 00:27:01,244
were gonna be put in front of me,
which I've had to deal with.
392
00:27:01,328 --> 00:27:04,164
And that's why I'll come through this
hopefully very quickly,
393
00:27:04,247 --> 00:27:07,334
and we're all looking
at a different Sunderland Football Club
394
00:27:07,417 --> 00:27:08,460
in the near future.
395
00:27:12,797 --> 00:27:15,550
Welcome along
to the Wise Men Say podcast.
396
00:27:15,634 --> 00:27:17,719
We're literally terrified to play at home.
397
00:27:17,802 --> 00:27:20,513
It is the exact opposite
of what it should be.
398
00:27:20,597 --> 00:27:21,598
No, but we are.
399
00:27:21,681 --> 00:27:24,184
We haven't won for nearly a year, at all.
400
00:27:24,267 --> 00:27:27,103
It's embarrassing,
and it transmits itself to the manager,
401
00:27:27,187 --> 00:27:28,897
'cause he's going into a home game
402
00:27:28,980 --> 00:27:31,358
against the team
that's bottom of the league.
403
00:27:31,858 --> 00:27:33,735
-The only worse team than you.
-Yeah.
404
00:27:33,818 --> 00:27:34,986
It's ridiculous.
405
00:27:35,070 --> 00:27:37,781
Eleven games, and we've drawn four
and lost the rest.
406
00:27:37,864 --> 00:27:40,950
So we've gone backwards
since the start of the season.
407
00:27:41,618 --> 00:27:44,621
You can't just lose loads of games
of football and go,
408
00:27:44,704 --> 00:27:46,706
"Well, it's relegated again."
409
00:27:46,831 --> 00:27:49,292
He's lost the fans, hasn't he?
Generally, I would say.
410
00:27:49,376 --> 00:27:52,170
We did a Twitter poll.
We'll have a look at the result.
411
00:27:52,587 --> 00:27:56,049
The poll was 1,175 people voted in it,
412
00:27:56,466 --> 00:28:00,804
and it was 16% "in," 84% "out."
413
00:28:01,554 --> 00:28:03,264
That's quite a lot, isn't it?
414
00:28:03,556 --> 00:28:05,266
So we'll be back, later on,
415
00:28:05,350 --> 00:28:07,560
after we've smashed Bolton
by six goals to nil.
416
00:28:12,732 --> 00:28:14,192
Oh, dear me!
417
00:28:14,275 --> 00:28:16,569
Last time I've seen a win?
Now, you've got us.
418
00:28:20,532 --> 00:28:22,367
Dear me, the last time we had a win?
419
00:28:22,450 --> 00:28:24,327
You can see tonight how quiet it is.
420
00:28:24,411 --> 00:28:27,205
It's been quite pleasant
being able to walk to the ground.
421
00:28:27,288 --> 00:28:29,082
Not all of hustle and bustle.
422
00:28:31,292 --> 00:28:34,295
We're going into another must-win game
at this stage of the season.
423
00:28:34,379 --> 00:28:38,508
We can't afford to drop any more points.
Simon will say the same thing.
424
00:28:39,217 --> 00:28:41,636
It's crucial we start to get points
on the board.
425
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,222
And Saturday could've been that point.
426
00:28:44,305 --> 00:28:47,684
Get a result away.
Home game Tuesday night.
427
00:28:48,351 --> 00:28:50,770
Two back-to-back wins,
and the thing turns around.
428
00:28:50,854 --> 00:28:54,232
But now, we go into tonight,
and the pressure's enormous.
429
00:28:54,774 --> 00:28:57,110
I think, ultimately, we have to get a win.
430
00:29:24,179 --> 00:29:27,098
And as ever,
it's the same old story at Sunderland.
431
00:29:27,390 --> 00:29:32,437
Half an hour, 31 minutes played,
and Bolton lead by a goal to nil.
432
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,315
How easy was that?
The goalkeeper's got to save that.
433
00:29:38,651 --> 00:29:42,989
At the moment, they just look
so disunited, Sunderland.
434
00:29:43,072 --> 00:29:47,368
It's a team of individuals
who really don't know what to do.
435
00:29:56,169 --> 00:29:59,172
Can Grabban get the ball under the keeper?
And he does!
436
00:29:59,255 --> 00:30:03,218
Equalizes at the stroke of half-time.
And Sunderland are level.
437
00:30:10,517 --> 00:30:12,268
The half-time whistle's blown.
438
00:30:12,602 --> 00:30:16,397
They go in mightily relieved with that
at the interval.
439
00:30:18,066 --> 00:30:20,109
And so, parity restored,
440
00:30:20,193 --> 00:30:22,946
can Sunderland get their act together,
in the second half,
441
00:30:23,029 --> 00:30:24,489
and go on to win this game?
442
00:30:29,118 --> 00:30:32,372
Second half is massive for Simon Grayson
if he wants to keep this job.
443
00:30:32,455 --> 00:30:35,708
You heard the fans already
when we went 1-0 down.
444
00:30:35,792 --> 00:30:36,793
They're not happy.
445
00:30:36,876 --> 00:30:40,171
You've got to look at the man who's
sending the players out on the pitch.
446
00:30:40,255 --> 00:30:43,967
At the end of the day, this is a massive
45 minutes. Absolutely huge.
447
00:31:12,912 --> 00:31:13,830
Come on!
448
00:31:18,501 --> 00:31:20,044
Running onto it here.
449
00:31:20,128 --> 00:31:23,673
A cross ball to Grabban,
and Sunderland lead 2-1.
450
00:31:23,756 --> 00:31:27,093
A lovely move. The best move
of the game from Sunderland.
451
00:31:27,802 --> 00:31:30,889
Are Sunderland finally on course?
452
00:31:37,437 --> 00:31:38,980
Coming up to the hour mark.
453
00:31:39,355 --> 00:31:42,775
Swings it into the penalty area,
but it's just straight up and under.
454
00:31:46,863 --> 00:31:49,490
-Brings it down and scores!
-What a mess!
455
00:31:49,574 --> 00:31:51,075
What a mess in the back!
456
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,331
Within minutes to draw Bolton level.
457
00:31:57,749 --> 00:31:59,709
Can't believe what I've just seen there.
458
00:32:00,543 --> 00:32:03,755
-So Sunderland, again--
-Terrible defending.
459
00:32:06,382 --> 00:32:09,928
Just as they put themselves
in front in the game,
460
00:32:11,137 --> 00:32:13,389
they shoot themselves in the foot.
461
00:32:17,185 --> 00:32:20,980
Approaching the final quarter of the game,
what's gonna give?
462
00:32:28,947 --> 00:32:30,698
Hammers it into the bottom corner.
463
00:32:31,699 --> 00:32:36,621
And that was from their own doing,
Sunderland. The calamity at the back.
464
00:32:36,704 --> 00:32:38,456
Bolton Wanderers 3-2 up.
465
00:32:40,667 --> 00:32:42,752
We want Grayson out!
466
00:32:42,877 --> 00:32:46,965
What is going through
Simon Grayson's mind now?
467
00:32:47,048 --> 00:32:54,013
We want Grayson out!
468
00:33:02,355 --> 00:33:05,441
You're not fit, you're not fit,
you're not fit to wear the shirt
469
00:33:05,525 --> 00:33:08,486
You're not fit to wear the shirt
470
00:33:11,322 --> 00:33:15,368
The shot from the gap!
It's in the bottom corner!
471
00:33:15,451 --> 00:33:16,744
It's 3-3,
472
00:33:16,828 --> 00:33:20,456
and Sunderland have given themselves
a lifeline again!
473
00:33:30,341 --> 00:33:33,970
The referee looks at his watch,
and indeed the game is over.
474
00:33:34,262 --> 00:33:38,474
A stalemate.
Sunderland 3, Bolton Wanderers 3.
475
00:34:07,754 --> 00:34:09,422
I have a short statement to read.
476
00:34:10,214 --> 00:34:13,426
"Sunderland FC have parted company
with manager, Simon Grayson.
477
00:34:13,509 --> 00:34:16,471
The club puts on record its sincere thanks
to Simon and his staff
478
00:34:16,554 --> 00:34:18,765
for their efforts
during their time at the club."
479
00:34:19,265 --> 00:34:20,767
Short comment from Martin Bain:
480
00:34:20,892 --> 00:34:24,645
"Simon and his team have worked hard to
achieve the best during their time here.
481
00:34:24,729 --> 00:34:28,274
We hoped Simon's experience in the league
would help us to a successful season.
482
00:34:28,357 --> 00:34:31,110
Results have not been good enough
for a club of this stature.
483
00:34:31,194 --> 00:34:35,031
For us to improve our current position,
a fundamental change is necessary."
484
00:34:35,865 --> 00:34:39,410
No one from the club will be speaking
tonight. Hope you understand. Thank you.
485
00:34:40,787 --> 00:34:42,038
Who's taking over?
486
00:34:45,833 --> 00:34:47,502
All right for you? Night, cheers.
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