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>> CHANGES BIG AND SMALL ARE ALREADY TAKING PLACE ACROSS THE

COUNTRY.

THIS MORNING, QUAKER OATS SAYS IT WILL BE RETIRING THE AUNT

JEMIMA BRAND AND THE LOGO, ACKNOWLEDGING ITS ORIGINS ARE

BASED ON A RACIAL STEREOTYPE.

♪ ♪ ♪ >> HI, I'M ROGER CORNSWORTH,

C.E.O. OF THE UNITED PANCAKE MANUFACTURERS CONSORTIUM.

WE'VE DECIDED TO DISCONTINUE THE POPULAR AUNT JEMIMA BRAND,

TAKING SWIFT ACTION AFTER BEING MADE AWARE THE PRODUCT WAS

OFFENSIVE 90 YEARS AGO.

BUT WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR ANY ACCOLADES, BECAUSE THIS IS JUST

THE LATEST IN A SERIES OF US RESPONDING TO RACIST DEPICTIONS

OF BREAKFAST MASCOTS.

I DON'T NEED TO REMIND YOU THAT IN 1912, WE AGREED TO REMOVE

FROM THE SHELF DRUNKY O'LEPRECHAUN'S PADDY WAGON

O'LIQUID GOLD.

IT WAS WRONG AND DELICIOUS.

THEN IN 1926, WE AGAIN TOOK ACTION WHEN WE DISCONTINUED PAPA

GIUSEPPE'S MAMMA MIA.

THAT'S A SPICY BUCKWHEAT GRAVY.

BUT WE WERE NOT FINISHED.

IN 1950, AFTER A MINOR UPROAR, WE DECIDED TO STOP SELLING

COUSIN ABRAHAM'S MASHUGANA FLAPJACK SCHMALTZ.

AND NOW, A MERELY 70 YEARS LATER, WE'RE DISCONTINUING AUNT

JEMIMA.

YOU HAVE SPOKEN, AND WE LISTENED.

BUT DON'T WORRY, YOU'LL STILL HAVE PLENTY OF OPTIONS FOR YOUR

BREAKFAST TOPPING LIKE CHAIRMAN WOW'S REVOLUTIONARY WAFFLE YAKI.

WHAT?

SINCE WHEN!

>> IT'S "A LATE SHOW WITH STEPHEN COLBERT."

TONIGHT: DANGEROUS CURVE AHEAD.

PLUS, STEPHEN WELCOMES SENATOR KAMALA HARRIS

AND MUSICAL GUESTS MILKY CHANCE AND JACK JOHNSON

FEATURING JON BATISTE AND STAY HOMIN'.

AND NOW, LIVE ON TAPE FROM A SAFE DISTANCE, IT'S STEPHEN

COLBERT!

♪ ♪ ♪ >> WOULD YOU CLIP THAT OFF?

WOULD YOU BE COMFORTABLE DOING THAT?

>> YEAH.

>> Stephen: OKAY, LATER.

LATER.

WELCOME TO "A LATE SHOW."

I'M YOUR HOST, STEPHEN COLBERT.

WE'VE ALL BEEN QUARANTINING FOR MONTHS, AND I'VE BEEN GOING A

LITTLE STIR-CRAZY.

BUT THAT'S COMPLETELY NORMAL, ACCORDING TO MY THERAPIST,

DOCTOR KAHLUA.

AND THE DANGER IS NOT GOING TO PASS ANYTIME SOON, BECAUSE 20

STATES ARE NOW SEEING A RISE IN CORONAVIRUS CASES, AND

"FLORIDA, TEXAS, AND ARIZONA ALL JUST SET RECORDS FOR THE MOST

CASES THEY HAVE REPORTED IN A SINGLE DAY."

CORONAVIRUS IS SURGING.

OR, AS TRUMP PUT IT: >> THE GREAT AMERICAN COMEBACK.

>> Stephen: EVERY EPIDEMIOLOGIST WARNED US NOT TO OPEN UP TOO

SOON.

THIS IS THE MOST PREDICTABLE HEALTH OUTCOME SINCE THE C.D.C.

PUBLISHED ITS LANDMARK STUDY "HEALTH PROJECTIONS AND

INFLAMMATION RESULTS OF STICKIN' YOUR PENIS IN THAT HORNET'S

NEST."

SEVERAL STATES IN THE SOUTH AND SOUTHWESTERN U.S. OPENED FOR

BUSINESS DESPITE THOSE WARNINGS, AND NOW COVID IS SEEING A

"STEADY SPREAD ACROSS THE SUN BELT."

SO THE EXACT THING THAT WE WERE TOLD WOULD HAPPEN IS NOW

HAPPENING, AND YOU'D HAVE TO BE A COMPLETE IDIOT TO DENY IT.

( KNOCKING ) WAIT, WHO'S THAT AT THE DUMB

DOOR?

WHY, IT'S VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE, SEEN HERE REPENTING FOR

EATING A JALAPENO POPPER.

( AS PENCE ) "I SWEAR, MOTHER, I THOUGHT IT

WAS A HUSH PUPPY."

DON'T TELL ICE."

ON MONDAY, ON A CALL WITH GOVERNORS, PENCE TRIED TO BLAME

THE RISING INFECTION NUMBERS ON "AN INCREASE IN TESTING,"

BECAUSE FOR PENCE, THE REAL DISEASE IS KNOWLEDGE, AND YOU

CAN CATCH IT THROUGH THE EYES AND THE EARS.

SO HE'S GOING TO NEED A NEW MASK.

AND YESTERDAY, PENCE CRANKED UP THE MAKE-BELIEVE AND RIPPED OFF

THE KNOB WITH AN OP-ED IN "THE WALL STREET JOURNAL" ENTITLED

"THERE ISN'T A CORONAVIRUS 'SECOND WAVE.'"

GREAT NEWS FOR ALL THE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO CHECKED INTO

HOSPITALS THIS WEEK!

YOU CAN GO HOME!

TURNS OUT, YOU WERE FAKIN' IT FOR ALL THE FREE PUDDIN'.

PENCE'S ARGUMENT IS THAT, DESPITE ALL EVIDENCE TO THE

CONTRARY, WE SHOULD NOT FREAK OUT, WRITING, "THE MEDIA HAS

TAKEN TO SOUNDING THE ALARM BELLS OVER CORONAVIRUS

INFECTIONS.

SUCH PANIC IS OVERBLOWN."

EVERY TIME YOU'VE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT COVID IS OVERBLOWN, YOU'VE

BEEN WRONG!

I THINK THE PANIC IS PERFECTLY BLOWN.

LIKE, IN TERMS OF HOW THIS PANIC IS BLOWN, LET'S JUST SAY THE

PANIC IS HAVING AN AMAZING BIRTHDAY.

NOW, KEEP IN MIND, PENCE IS THE SAME MEDICAL GENIUS WHO ONLY 20

YEARS AGO WROTE AN ARTICLE ARGUING THAT "DESPITE THE

HYSTERIA FROM THE POLITICAL CLASS AND THE MEDIA, SMOKING

DOESN'T KILL."

YOU DO NOT WANT MIKE PENCE AS YOUR DOCTOR.

( AS PENCE ) "I AM AFRAID HAVE BAD NEWS.

I'M AFRAID YOUR LUNG X-RAY SHOWS A RAPIDLY GROWING MASS OF

MEDIA HYSTERIA.

I'M GOING TO WRITE YOU A PRESCRIPTION FOR COOL-MENTHOL

FLAVOR.

IT'LL RELAX YOUR T-ZONE."

FORTUNATELY, WE ARE ALSO HEARING FROM SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY KNOWS

STUFF, THE NATION'S TOP EPIDEMIOLOGIST, DR. ANTHONY

FAUCI, SEEN HERE WASHING YOUR HANDS WITH HIS EYES.

FAUCI HAD SOME GOOD NEWS.

"THERE'S NO NEED FOR A SECOND LOCKDOWN FOR COVID-19."

WOO-HOO!

BURN YOUR MASKS, LICK THE GROCERIES, AND TEAR DOWN YOUR

SEX WALL!

WE'RE FREE!

IS WHAT I WOULD SAY IF I DIDN'T ACTUALLY READ THE ARTICLE.

TURNS OUT, DESPITE THE HEADLINE, WHAT FAUCI ACTUALLY SAID WAS, "I

DON'T LIKE TO TALK ABOUT A SECOND WAVE RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE

WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN OUT OF OUR FIRST WAVE."

COME ON, TONY!

DON'T PLAY US LIKE THAT.

THAT'S LIKE SAYING, "HONEY, I PROMISE I'M NOT GOING TO CHEAT

ON YOU AGAIN, BECAUSE I NEVER STOPPED CHEATING ON YOU THE

FIRST TIME.

COME ON IN, DIANE!

YOU'RE GONNA LIKE HER.

COME ON IN!" UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S NO WAY

THE PRESIDENT KNOWS HOW BAD THINGS ARE, BECAUSE "FAUCI SAYS

HE HAS NOT TALKED WITH TRUMP IN TWO WEEKS."

WELL, THAT'S JUST COMMON SENSE.

WHEN YOU'RE EXPOSED TO TRUMP, YOU WANT TO QUARANTINE FOR 14

DAYS TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVEN'T BEEN INFECTED WITH

MORON-A-VIRUS.

SYMPTOMS INCLUDE RAMP-SHUFFLE AND RESTLESS DOUCHE SYNDROME.

FAUCI BROKE SOME OTHER DISTURBING NEWS.

REMEMBER HOW AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PANDEMIC, PUBLIC HEALTH

EXPERTS SAID, "DON'T WEAR MASKS," AND THEN LATER SAID,

"OH, YEAH, WEAR MASKS"?

WELL, THERE'S A REASON: >> WHY WERE WE TOLD LATER IN THE

SPRING TO WEAR THEM WHEN WE WERE INITIALLY TOLD NOT TO?

>> WELL, THE REASON FOR THAT IS WE WERE CONCERNED-- THE PUBLIC

HEALTH COMMUNITY, AND MANY PEOPLE WERE SAYING THIS-- WERE

CONCERNED THAT IT WAS AT A TIME WHEN PERSONAL PROTECTIVE

EQUIPMENT, INCLUDING THE N95 MASKS AND THE SURGICAL MASKS,

WERE IN VERY SHORT SUPPLY.

SO, THERE WAS NOT ENTHUSIASM ABOUT GOING OUT AND EVERYBODY

BUYING A MASK OR GETTING A MASK.

WE WERE AFRAID THAT THAT WOULD DETER AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE WHO

REALLY NEEDED IT.

>> Stephen: OKAY, THAT MAKES LOGICAL SENSE, BUT IT'S NOT AN

EXCUSE FOR LYING TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC.

YOU COULD HAVE TOLD US TO WEAR A BANDANNA OVER OUR FACES,

OR A SCARF, OR EAT A WHOLE GIANT CONTAINER OF CHEESEBALLS AND

THEN SHOVE THE EMPTY PLASTIC JAR OVER OUR HEADS.

I WOULD HAVE DONE THAT!

I HAVE DONE THAT.

FAUCI ALSO MADE IT CLEAR THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE RUSHING TO REOPEN.

WHEN ASKED IF HE WOULD ATTEND TRUMP'S UPCOMING RALLY IN TULSA,

HE REPLIED, "NO," ADDING THAT, WHEN IT CAME TO TRUMP'S RALLIES

"OUTSIDE IS BETTER THAN INSIDE, NO CROWD IS BETTER THAN CROWD,"

AND "CROWD IS BETTER THAN BIG CROWD."

AND IF THE PRESIDENT NEEDS A VISUAL REFERENCE FOR WHAT AN

OUTSIDE, NOT-BIG CROWD LOOKS LIKE, IT'S THIS.

YOU WERE AHEAD OF YOUR TIME, SIR.

NOW, WE'RE LEARNING MORE DETAILS ABOUT TRUMP'S LAWSUIT TRYING TO

BLOCK THE PUBLICATION OF A NEW BOOK BY FORMER NATIONAL SECURITY

ADVISER AND THE SCRUBBING BUBBLES' DISAPPROVING

GRANDFATHER, JOHN BOLTON.

THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT IS SUING BOLTON FOR BREACHING HIS

NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT.

EXPERTS ARE CALLING THE LAWSUIT ONE OF THE MOST EXTREME ATTEMPTS

TO STOP A FORMER TRUMP ADVISER FROM RECOUNTING HIS EXPERIENCE.

AND IT AIN'T GOING TO WORK.

FIRST OF ALL, THEY'VE ALREADY DISTRIBUTED TOO MANY COPIES OF

"THE ROOM WHERE IT HAPPENED"-- SPECIFICALLY, TO MY ROOM, WHERE

IT'S HAPPENIN'.

SECOND, ACCORDING TO ONE EXPERT, "EVERY TIME THE GOVERNMENT HAS

TRIED TO PREVENT SOMEONE FROM PUBLISHING WHAT THEY BELIEVE TO

BE CLASSIFIED, THEY HAVE LOST."

FOR MORE, WE TURN TO CBS LEGAL ANALYST, WALTER SOBCHAK:

WALTER.

>> FOR YOUR INFORMATION, THE SUPREME COURT HAS ROUNDLY

REJECTED PRIOR RESTRAINT.

>> Stephen: THANK YOU FOR THAT ANALYSIS, WALTER.

ANY OTHER MESSAGE FOR THE PRESIDENT?

>> FORGET IT, DONNIE, YOU'RE OUT OF YOUR ELEMENT.

>> Stephen: THANK YOU, WALTER.

TRUMP'S LAWSUIT CLAIMS BOLTON'S BOOK DIDN'T FINISH THE

PRE-PUBLICATION PROCESS.

BUT AFTER ROUNDS OF EDITS ENDING IN LATE APRIL, THE NATIONAL

SECURITY OFFICIAL WHO REVIEWED THE BOOK "DETERMINED THAT THE

LATEST VERSION OF THE MANUSCRIPT NO LONGER CONTAINED CLASSIFIED

INFORMATION."

OH.

BUT LESS THAN A WEEK LATER-- YOU OKAY OVER THERE?

>> YEAH.

BUT LESS THAN A WEEK LATER, THE WHITE HOUSE STARTED ANOTHER

OFFICIAL REVIEW THAT CAME AT THE REQUEST OF NATIONAL SECURITY

ADVISER ROBERT O'BRIEN.

AND THE WHITE HOUSE HAS NOW TAKEN LONGER TO REVIEW THE BOOK

THAN BOLTON DID TO WRITE IT.

THAT'S WHY BOLTON'S ALREADY WORKING ON THE SEQUEL: "THE ROOM

WHERE 'THE ROOM WHERE IT HAPPENED' ALMOST DIDN'T HAPPEN."

AND YOU CAN SEE WHY TRUMP IS SO DESPERATE TO KILL THIS BOOK.

BECAUSE THIS AFTERNOON, SEVERAL NEWSPAPERS PUBLISHED EXCERPTS.

AND I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M SAYING THIS.

IT'S WORSE THAN EVEN I IMAGINED.

LET'S START SMALL.

NOT A GREAT SIGN WHEN YOU'RE MEETING WITH A MURDEROUS

DICTATOR AND YOUR TEAM IS PASSING MEAN NOTES ABOUT YOU.

ACCORDING TO BOLTON, TRUMP'S IGNORANCE IS NEAR BOTTOMLESS.

APPARENTLY, TRUMP DIDN'T SEEM TO KNOW THAT BRITAIN WAS A NUCLEAR

POWER AND ASKED IF FINLAND WERE PART OF RUSSIA.

NOW, YOU CAN UNDERSTAND HIS CONFUSION THERE, BECAUSE UNDER

TRUMP, WE'RE KIND OF PART OF RUSSIA.

( RUSSIAN MUSIC ) >> KREM-SLAM!

>> Stephen: I WISH YOU COULD HAVE SEEN MY LEGS.

I WAS JUST AMAZING.

BOLTON ALSO SAYS THAT INTELLIGENCE BRIEFINGS WERE A

WASTE OF TIME "SINCE MUCH OF THE TIME WAS SPENT LISTENING

TO TRUMP, RATHER THAN TRUMP LISTENING TO THE BRIEFERS."

( AS TRUMP ) "UGH, I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY CALL

THIS A 'BRIEF' WHEN IT GOES ON SO LONG.

CHANGE OF SUBJECT: HERE ARE MY FAVORITE WAYS TO EAT POTATOES IN

ORDER OF PREFERENCE: FRIED, FRENCH FRIED, DEEP FRIED-- YOU

WRITIN' THIS DOWN?

TATER TOTTLED, MASHED, SMASHED, WAFFLED, AND CURLY.

NOT A FAN OF THE CURLY.

IT'S A MEAL, NOT AN OBSTACLE COURSE.

ANYWAY, WHAT'S NEXT?

NUKES?

YOU CAN'T NUKE FRIES.

THEY GET ALL MUSHY."

TURNS OUT TRUMP MADE IT A HABIT TO ASK FOREIGN COUNTRIES TO

INTERFERE IN OUR ELECTIONS.

BOLTON WRITES THAT TRUMP DIRECTLY ASKED CHINA'S XI TO BUY

AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS TO HELP HIM WIN FARM STATES IN 2020 AND

WAS "PLEADING WITH XI TO ENSURE HE'D WIN,"

"BUY THE WHEAT, OR I'M DEAD MEAT!

ALSO, ARIZONA IS NOT LOOKING GOOD FOR ME, SO I'M GOING TO

NEED YOU GUYS TO BUY A LOT OF ICED TEA."

NOW HERE'S WHERE THE STORY GOES FROM AMORAL IDIOCY TO DOWNWRITE

EVIL.

I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THOSE CHINESE CONCENTRATION CAMPS ARE

HORRIBLE.

BUT YOU KNOW, TRUMP IS A BUILDER.

I'M SURE HE HOOKED UP XI WITH A GREAT CONTRACTOR, MAYBE THE SAME

GUY WHO BUILT TRUMP'S BABY CAGES.

BOLTEN SAID WHEN HE ARRIVED, HE WAS GIVEN A WARNING.

SOUND LIKE WORKING THERE WAS LIKE THE MOVIE "GET OUT" EXCEPT

THE CHARACTERES WERE MUCH MORE HOSTILE TO BLACK PEOPLE.

BUT WHILE WE'RE ON THE SUBJECT, BOO-(BLEEP)-HOO.

IT'S THE WHITE HOUSE, NOT DAIRY QUEEN.

IF IT'S A HORRIBLE PLACE, YOU'RE OBLIGATED TO TELL THE WORLD AND

SAVE THE NATION, NOT PRIVATELY BITCH ABOUT IT WITH YOUR BUDDY

'TIL THERE'S AN OPENING AT COLD STONE CREAMERY!

AND IT GET MORE DISTURBING.

NOW, HE MAY HAVE SAID THAT, BUT I DOUBT FRUMP WOULD EVER EXECUTE

A JOURNALIST.

HE WOULD ASK JARED TO HAVE HIS SAUDI FRIENDS DO IT.

BUT MAYBE MOST DAMNING OF ALL IS BOLTON'S DESCRIPTION OF TRUMP'S

PATTERN OF CORRUPTION.

HE DESCRIBED SEVERAL EPISODES WHERE THE PRESIDENT EXPRESSED

WILLINGNESS TO HALT CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS "TO, IN EFFECT,

GIVE PERSONAL FAVORS TO DICTATORS HE LIKED," CITING

CASES INVOLVING MAJOR FIRMS IN CHINA AND TURKEY.

ADDING, "THE PATTERN LOOKED LIKE OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE AS A WAY

OF LIFE, WHICH WE COULDN'T ACCEPT."

DAMN RIGHT!

JOHN BOLTON KNEW IT WAS WRONG TO STAND IDLY BY AND ACCEPT THE

PRESIDENT REPEATEDLY OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE!

HE KNEW THAT THE RIGHT THING WAS TO STAND IDLY BY AND WAIT FOR

THAT BOOK DEAL.

SEE YOU TUESDAY, SIR!

WE'VE GOT A GREAT SHOW FOR YOU TONIGHT.

MY GUEST TONIGHT IS SENATOR KAMALA HARRIS.

STICK AROUND.

♪♪

>> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY, WELCOME BACK TO "A LATE SHOW."

LET'S GO TO MY FAVORITE PART OF THE EVENING AND SAY HELLO TO OUR

FRIEND, JON BATISTE.

♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪

>> Jon: WOOO!

>> Stephen: I MEAN, IT'S A DANCE CRAZE, JON.

IT'S GOING TO EXPLOED ON TIKTOK.

>> Jon: WHAT ARE WE GOING TO CALL IT?

WHAT ARE WE CALLING IT?

WHAT IS IT?

>> Stephen: "THE BATISTE?" I DON'T KNOW, YOU STARTED IT.

I WAS JUST TRYING TO COPY YOU.

>> Jon: YEAH.

>> Stephen: JON BATISTE, EVERYBODY.

I'LL SEE YOU TOMORROW, MAN.

>> Jon: YES, INDEED, LAY IT ON!

>> Stephen: JOINING ME TONIGHT IS THE FORMER CALIFORNIA

ATTORNEY GENERAL AND PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE WHO

CURRENTLY SERVES AS ONLY THE SECOND BLACK FEMALE SENATOR IN

U.S. HISTORY.

PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO "A LATE SHOW," SENATOR KAMALA HARI.R.S.

SENATOR, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

>> GOOD TO SEE YOU.

>> Stephen: WE JUST LEARNED RIGHT BEFORE THE INTERVIEW, THE

OFFICER, OFFICER ROAFL, WHO SHOT RAYSHARD BROOKS IN ATLANTA, HAS

BEEN CHARGED WITH HOMICIDE.

HAVE YOU LOOKED AT ANY OF THE CHARGES AND WHAT IS THE

SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS?

>> ONE SIGNIFICANCE OF IT IS THAT THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY

THERE, CLEARLY FROM THE FIRST MOMENTS OF THE INCIDENT AND THE

TRAGEDY, TOOK IT SERIOUSLY.

HE STARTED AN INVESTIGATION, AND I THINK SWIFTLY ADDRESSED THE

ISSUE.

AND SO, NOW IT'S-- NOW THEY GO TO TRIAL, AND THEY'LL PROCEED TO

TRIAL, AND THESE ARE DIFFICULT CASES, BUT I HAVE CONFIDENCE IN

THE ABILITY OF THAT PROSECUTOR TO SEEK JUSTICE AND TO ACHIEVE

JUSTICE.

>> Stephen: IT SEEMS LIKE A SIMPLE THING TO HAVE HAPPEN,

ESPECIALLY SINCE THERE'S VIDEO EVIDENCE.

BUT I THINK IT SHOWS IT'S KIND OF A LOW BAR THAT THE POLICE

DEPARTMENTS AND DISTRICT ATTORNEYS HAVE TO GET OVER IN

ORDER TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES OF THE PROTESTERS IN THE

STREETS.

IF-- IF SOMEONE SHOOTS AN UNARMED MAN, BLACK OR WHITE,

THAT PERSON SHOULD FACE CONSEQUENCES.

>> IT-- IT-- SO, PART OF WHAT I'M FIGHTING FOR RIGHT HERE IN

D.C. RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE HAVE A PACKAGE OF BILLS THAT WE'VE

NAMED "THE JUSTICE IN POLICING ACT."

MY PARTNER ON IS SENATOR CORY BOOKER FROM NEW JERSEY.

WE ARE MEMBERS OF THE CONGRESSIONAL BLACK CAUCUS,

WHICH IS LEADING IT ON THE HOUSE SIDE,WITH CONGRESSWOMAN KAREN

BASS.

ONE OF THE COMPONENTS OF THE JUSTICE IN POLICING ACT IS

EXACTLY YOUR POINT, STEPHEN.

IT'S ABOUT THE FACT WHEN THESE CASES GO TO COURT ON THE ISSUE

OF EXCESS 55 FORCE, IN MOST JURISDICTIONS RIGHT NOW THE

QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED IS WAS THAT USE OF FORCE REASONABLE?

AS YOU AND I KNOW YOU CAN REASON AWAY JUST ABOUT ANYTHING.

WHAT WE ARE PUSHING FOR IS INSTEAD THERE WOULD BE A MORE

JUST AND FAIR QUESTION WHICH IS TO ASK, "WAS THAT USE OF FORCE

NECESSARY?" SO CHANGE, THE STANDARD TO

ACTUALLY MEET THE POINT, WHICH IS THAT WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT

THESE CASES AROUND THE COUNTRY, THERE HAVE BEEN CASES THAT HAVE

BEEN CHARGED AND BROUGHT, BUT THE BAR IS SO HIGH, IT'S ALMOST

INSURMOUNTABLE, WHICH MEANS THAT THE COMMUNITIES AND THE FAMILIES

OF THESE VICTIMS DO NOT SEE JUSTICE.

AND SO THAT IS PART OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO REALLY RESTRUCTURE

THE WAY WE HANDLING THESE CASES.

>> Stephen: I KNOW THAT WE HAD-- WE HAD SENATOR BOOKER ON,

AND I KNOW THAT THE TWO OF YOU ARE WORKING ON THIS LEGISLATION.

>> YES.

>> Stephen: INTRODUCING IT INTO THE SENATE.

McCONNELL HAS ANNOUNCED TIM SCOTT'S "JUSTICE ACT," THAT WILL

GO TO THE FLOOR.

WILL YOU VOTE TO ADVANCE THAT TO DEBATE?

AND IF NOT, WHAT'S IT MISSING FOR YOU?

>> WELL, SO, I-- I THINK THAT SENATOR SCOTT IS WELL

INTENTIONED, BUT, FRANKLY, THE-- WHAT-- WHAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED

JUST HAS NO TEETH.

WE NEED ACCOUNTABILITY AND CONSEQUENCES.

THE INTEREST THING, STEPHEN, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE CRIMINAL

JUSTICE SYSTEM, WE WILL OFTEN USE THE PHRASE "CONSEQUENCE AND

ACCOUNTABILITY," AS IT RELATES TO SOMEONE WHO IS ARRESTED, BUT

RARELY AS IT RELATES TO THE SYSTEM ITSELF AND THOSE PEOPLE

WORKING WITHIN THE SYSTEM.

AND WHAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE, BY THE THOUSANDS IN 50 STATES OF

AMERICA MARCHING FOR, IS THAT THERE BE EQUAL JUSTICE UNDER LAW

AS WE PROMISE AS AN IDEAL, A FOUNDING IDEAL OF OUR COUNTRY.

WE'RE NOT DOING THAT RIGHT NOW.

AND PART OF THE REASON WE'RE NOT DOING THAT IS WE ARE NOT HOLDING

POLICE OFFICERS WHO BREAK THE RULES AND BREAK THE LAW, WE ARE

NOT HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE.

AND THERE'S NOT SERIOUS CONSEQUENCE.

AND SO, OUR BILL DOES THAT.

WHAT I'VE SEEN IN TERMS OF WHAT WAS OFFERED TODAY ON THE

REPUBLICAN SIDE, IT TALKS ABOUT TRAINING.

WELL, WE'VE BEEN TRAINING FOLKS.

IT TALKS ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT ARE NOT ABOUT

SERIOUS CONSEQUENCE AND ACCOUNTABILITY FOR BAD BEHAVIOR

S.

>> Stephen: PRESIDENT TRUMP ISSUED AN EXECUTIVE ORDER

YESTERDAY, I BELIEVE.

>> YEAH.

>> Stephen: WAS THERE ANYTHING MEANINGFUL IN THERE FROM WHAT

YOU SAW IN?

>> NO, IT'S WINDOW DRESSING.

BUT THEN THAT'S USUALLY WHAT WE GET OUT OF PRESIDENT TRUMP.

NO.

AND, AGAIN, THE POINT HERE IS THAT PEOPLE ARE DEMANDING

CHANGE.

LISTEN, THERE IS-- FRANKLY, THE SAD REALITY OF IT IS THAT WHEN

WE LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE MURDER OF GEORGE FLOYD, WHEN WE

LOOK AT BREONNA TAYLOR, WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE CASES THAT HAVE

REPEATEDLY HAPPENED IN OUR COUNTRY, JUST MOST RECENTLY, BUT

IN THE CONTEXT OF JUST GO BACK JUST ONLY 30 YEARS.

I'M NOT GOING TO EVEN REQUIRE YOU TO GO BACK TO EMMET TILL.

GO BACK TO RODNEY KING.

THESE ARE NOT NEW GRIEVANCES, BUT THEY HAVE GONE UNADDRESSED

BECAUSE THE SYSTEM IS FLAWED, IN THAT IT HAS NOT HELD BAD ACTORS

ACCOUNTABLE FOR BAD ACTS.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ARE PUSH FOR.

WE ARE SAY NO-KNOCK WARRANTS, THAT THERE SHOULD BE NO ABILITY

TO HAVE NO-KNOCK WARRANT FOR DRUG CASES.

BREONNA TAYLOR WOULD BE ALIVE TODAY IF THERE HAD BEEN A BAN ON

NO-KNOCK WARRANT IN DRUG CASES.

THAT'S PART OF WHAT MY BILL OFFERS.

MY BILL TOGETHER WITH, AGAIN, THOSE THAT ARE PARTNERS THIS

THIS, IS SAYING WE NEED TO HAVE INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATIONS.

I KNOW AS A FORMER PROSECUTOR, THE D.A., THE STATE'S ATTORNEY,

WHO WORKS EVERY DAY WITH THAT POLICE DEPARTMENT SHOULD NOT

NUMBER THE BUSINESS OF THEN INVESTIGATING AND PROSECUTING A

POLICE OFFICER FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THEY WORK WITH EVERY

DAY.

AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU WHY.

NO MATTER HOW WELL INTENTIONED THAT D.A. MAY BE, THERE WILL

STILL BE THE APPEARANCE OF CONFLICT.

AND IN OUR SYSTEM OF JUSTICE, WE MUST ACHIEVE ACTUAL JUSTICE AND

ALSO THE APPEARANCE OF JUSTICE.

AND THAT MEANS LET'S HAVE INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATIONS.

I TALKED ABOUT A NATIONAL STANDARD FOR USE OF FORCE.

LET'S ALSO HAVE PRACTICE-- PATTERN AND PRACTICE

INVESTIGATIONS.

WHEN I WAS THE ATTORNEY OF CALIFORNIA, I INVESTIGATED LAW L

ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES THAT WERE ALLEGED TO HAVE A PATTERN AND

PRACTICE OF DISCRIMINATION.

THAT SHOULD BE HAPPENING IN THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF

JUSTICE, NO THANKS TO BILL BARR AND DONALD TRUMP, VIRTUALLY

ENDED UNDER THIS ADMINISTRATION.

BUT WE NEED TO RENEW THOSE INVESTIGATIONS AND ALSO GIVE

THEM THE SUBPOENA POWER TO INVESTIGATE POLICE DEPARTMENTS

EVEN IF THEY DON'T WANT TO BE INVESTIGATED.

>> Stephen: BECAUSE YOU WERE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF

CALIFORNIA FOR, I BELIEVE SIX YEARS?

>> YES, THAT'S RIGHT.

>> Stephen: SOMETIMES CALLED THE STATE'S "TOP COP."

YOU GOT SOME CRITICISM FROM YOUR DEMOCRATIC COLLEAGUES FOR SOME

OF THE ACTIONS YOU TOOK AS ATTORNEY GENERAL.

BUT DOES IT ALSO GIVE YOU THE ABILITY TO EXPLAIN TO THE POLICE

AND TO THOSE WHO MAY NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT "DEFUND THE

POLICE" MEANS.

SOME PEOPLE MAY UNDERSTAND DEMILITARIZE THE POLICE, OR

REFORM THE POLICE OR RESTRUCTURE.

WHEN YOU HEAR "DEFUND" YOU CAN EXPLAIN THAT IN A WAY THAT

DOESN'T SCARE SOME PEOPLE?

>> FIRST, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I HAVE SEEN IN MY CAREER AS

A PROSECUTOR THAT POLICE AND LEADERS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT COME

TO THE TABLE AND JOIN WITH A MOVEMENT THAT IS ABOUT CREATING

GREATER TRUST OF THE SYSTEM AND IN THE SYSTEM AND OF LAW

ENFORCEMENT.

WHEN I WAS ATTORNEY GENERAL OF CALIFORNIA, WE PUT IN PLACE THE

FIRST IN THE NATION FOR A STATE IMPLICIT BIAS AND PROCEDURAL

JUSTICE MANDATORY TRAINING FOR POLICE OFFICERS.

AND THAT WAS BECAUSE LAW ENFORCEMENT LEADERS CAME

TOGETHER WITH COMMUNITY LEADERS AND SAID, "WE NEED TO

ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT ALL OF US CARRY IMPLIELD BIAS, BUT WHEN

YOU HAVE A BADGE AND A GUN AND YOU CARRY THAT, IT COULD LEAD TO

LETHAL CONSEQUENCES."

SO I HAVE SEEN IN MY CAREER HOW WE CAN CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT

WHERE PEOPLE COME TOGETHER AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE TRUTH, NO MATTER

HOW DIFFICULT THAT MAY BE, AND DEAL WITH IT.

TO YOUR POINT, ON THIS ISSUE OF-- YOU KNOW, THERE'S A HASHTAG

DEFUND THE POLICE.

I'VE NEVER REALLY TRIED TO PUT ANYTHING I THINK ABOUT IN THE

CONTEXT OF A HASHTAG PUT BEBUT WE NEED TO REIMAGINE HOW WE DO

PUBLIC SAFETY.

THE STATUS QUO THINKING HAS BEEN BY PUTTING MORE POLICE OFFICERS

ON THE STREETS YOU WILL HAVE MORE SAFETY.

THAT'S JUST WRONG.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, THE REALITY IS UPPER MIDDLE-CLASS SUBURBS DO

NOT HAVE THAT KIND OF POLICE PRESENCE.

BUT WHAT THEY DO HAVE?

WELL WITH-FUNDED SCHOOLS?

WHAT THEY DO HAVE, HIGH RATES OF HOME OWNERSHIP.

WHAT THEY DO HAVE, FAMILIES THAT HAVE MEANINGFUL YOBZ WITH

SALARIES THAT ALLOW THEM TO GET THROUGH THE END OF THE MONTH

WITHOUT WORRYING ABOUT HOW TO FEED THEIR CHILDREN.

WHAT THEY DO HAVE IS SMALL BUSINESSES WITH ACCESS TO

CAPITAL.

WHAT THEY DO HAVE IS ACCESS TO HEALTHCARE AND MENTAL HEALTH

CARE THAT IS AFFORDABLE.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOW TO ACHIEVE SAFETY, WHICH SHOULD BE

OUR COLLECTIVE GOALS GOAL-- LET'S UNDERSTAND HEALTHY

COMMUNITIESES ARE SAFE COMMUNITIES.

IN THE MANY CITIES IN AMERICA, ONE-THIRD OF THEIR ENTIRE CITY

BUDGET IS DEDICATED TO POLICING, WE REALLY HAVE TO HAVE AN HONEST

CONVERSATION ABOUT WHETHER THAT IS THE SMARTEST USE OF THE

RESOURCES?

AND BY NO MEANS DOES THIS MEAN FOR ME, BY NO MEANS DOES THIS

MEAN GETTING RID OF POLICE.

BUT IT DOES MEAN TAKING A CRITICAL LOOK AT WHETHER WE'RE

ACTUALLY BEING SMART WITH TAXPAYER DOLLARS IF THE GOAL IS

TRULY SAFETY BECAUSE IF IT IS, INVEST IN SCHOOLS, INVEST IN

HEALTHCARE, INVEST IN JOBS AND YOU'LL HAVE SAFE COMMUNITY S.

>> Stephen: FOLKS WE HAVE TO TAKE A QUICK COMMERCIAL BREAK

BUT WHEN WE RETURN I'LL HAVE MORE WITH SENATOR KAMALA HARRIS.

♪ ♪ ♪ >> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY,

WE'RE BACK WE'RE ARE SENATOR KAMALA HARRIS.

YOU'VE JOINED PROTESTS IN WASHINGTON, D.C.

FIRST OF ALL, DID YOU WEAR A MASK?

>> I DID, BUT I WILL TELL YOU, THE FIRST PROTEST I EVER

ATTENDED IN A STROLLER WHEN MY PARENTS WERE MARCHING IN THE

60s.

SO IT'S KIND OF SOMETHING I'VE DONE MY ENTIRE LIFE.

>> Stephen: I-- I KNOW THAT YOUR-- YOUR MOM WAS VERY

POLITICALLY ACTIVE.

WHAT DID YOU LEARN FROM HER?

>> I LEARNED THAT-- THAT THE GREATEST MOVEMENTS THAT HAVE--

THAT WE HAVE SEEN IN RECENT HISTORY IN OUR COUNTRY, BUT

PROBABLY SINCE THE BEGINNING, HAVE BEEN BORNE OUT OF PROTEST.

HAVE BEEN BORN OUT OF UNDERSTANDING THE POWER OF THE

PEOPLE TO TAKE TO THE STREETS AND FORCE THEIR GOVERNMENT TO--

TO BECOME-- TO ADDRESS WHAT IS WRONG, THE INEQUITIES, THE

INEQUALITIES, THE UNFAIRNESS, BUT ALSO THE CONSCIENCE OF A

GOVERNMENT IS ITS PEOPLE TO FORCE THE GOVERNMENT TO-- TO BE

TRUE TO THE IDEALS THAT WE SAY WE HOLD DEAR.

AND ALMOST EVERYONE ONE OF THOSE MARCHES HAS BEEN ABOUT ONE

FUNDAMENTAL IDEAL IN OUR COUNTRY WHICH IS EQUAL JUSTIFY JUSTICE

UNDER LAW AND FIGHTING TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A GOVERNMENT AND A

COUNTRY THAT LEAST EVERY, YOU KNOW, FEW STEPS GETS CLOSER TO

ACHIEVING THAT IDEAL.

WE'VE NOT YET REACHED IT.

WE'VE NEVER ACTUALLY REACHED IT.

BUT THESE PROTESTS I THINK ARE THE CATALYST TO GETTING THERE.

>> Stephen: WHAT DID YOU SEE IN D.C.?

WHAT WAS IT LIKE TO-- TO MARCH IN THOSE PROTESTS?

>> YEAH, YOU KNOW, IT WAS-- I'LL TELL YOU ONE OF THE THINGS,

STEPHEN, THAT I SAW THAT GIVES ME SUCH HOPE, PEOPLE WHO

SEEMINGLY HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON, WHO KNOW THEY HAVE

EVERYTHING IN COMMON.

IT WAS REALLY-- IT'S A BEAUTIFUL SIGHT.

PEOPLE OF EVERY RACE, AGE, GENDER TOGETHER, AND SEEING THE

COMMONALITY, AND IT WAS THEN THE COMMONALITY OF SPIRIT.

IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS SO VERY POWERFUL, AND I THINK WE

VALUE TO RECOGNIZE IT FOR WHAT IT IS.

THERE IS-- WE HAVE ARRIVEDAT A POINT IN OUR COUNTRY THAT WE

SHOULD RECOGNIZE-- THIS IS NOT JUST A MOMENT, IT IS A MOVEMENT.

IT IS A MOVEMENT THAT IS FUELED BY THE DIVERSITY, THE BEAUTIFUL

DIVERSITY OF WHO WE ARE COMING TOGETHER AS A UNIFIED BODY,

DEMANDING, IN THIS CASE CHANGE AND JUSTICE FOR EVERYONE.

>> Stephen: AS A-- AS A SENATOR, AS A POLITICIAN,

SOMEONE WHO HAS TO RESPOND TO THE CONSTITUENTS, WHAT DO THESE

PROTESTS MEAN TO THE ABILITY TO EFFECT CHANGE.

>> YEAH.

>> Stephen: LEGISLATIVELY.

BECAUSE THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE--

>> YEAH.

>> Stephen: I WOKE UP THIS MORNING, WE DO, LIKE, A NEWS

BREAKDOWN AT NIGHT, A NEWS BREAKDOWN IN THE MORNING, I

LOOKED DOWN, AND ASKED WHERE IS THE NEWS ON THE PROTESTS?

ARE THEY GONE?

ARE WE NOT TALKING ABOUT THEM ANYMORE?

IT SEEMS TO ME IT HAS TO BE SUSTAINED TO MAINTAIN THE

PRESSURE AND MAINTAIN THAT COMMONALITY OF PURPOSE FOR

PEOPLE OF ALL RACES IN THE UNITED STATES TO BRING THIS KIND

OF JUSTICE THAT'S BEING CALLED FOR.

HOW IMPORTANT IS IT FOR THESE PROTESTS TO CONTINUE?

>> IT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.

AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU SOMETHING.

I MADE A VERY CONSCIOUS DECISION TO BECOME A PROSECUTOR.

I GREW UP IN A COMMUNITY THAT WAS NOT ALWAYS ON THE BEST END

OF LAW ENFORCEMENT IN TERMS OF HOW THE LAWS WERE APPLIED.

THERE'S NOT A BLACK MAN I KNOW, BE HE A RELATIVE OR'S FRIEND,

WHO HAS NOT BEEN THE SUBJECT OF SOME SORT OF RACIAL PROFILING OR

EXCESSIVE FORCE.

SO WHEN I MADE A DECISION TO BECOME A PROSECUTOR, IT WAS A

CONSCIOUS DECISION, WHICH WAS TO GO INSIDE THE SYSTEM AND HAVE

SOME LEVERAGE THERE TO EFFECTUATE CHANGE.

I SAY THAT TO SAY THIS: THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GOING TO TRULY ACHIEVE

CHANGE IS WHEN THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE SYSTEM WHO ARE WILLING OR

PUSHING TO DO IT, AND WHEN THERE ARE THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE OUTSIDE

OF THE SYSTEM DEMANDING IT.

I AM VERY CLEAR THAT SOME OF THE SUCCESS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO

ACHIEVE AROUND CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED

IN RECENT YEARS WERE IT NOT FOR BLACK LIVES MATTER, AND THE

INTENSITY AND THE BRILLIANCE OF THAT MOVEMENT, THAT FORCED AT

LEAST THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME COUNTER-FORCE TO THE STATUS QUO,

WHICH IS SO RELUCTANT TO CHANGE IF NOT HOSTILE TO CHANGE.

THAT'S WHAT THESE MOVEMENTS DO, THAT WHERE THESE SYSTEMS ARE SO

INVESTED AND INGRAINED IN WHAT THEY CALL "TRADITION" BUT IS

STATUS QUO, OFTEN WHICH CAN BE WRONG-HEADED, THESE MOVEMENTS

PROVIDE A COUNTER-FORCE TO GET US TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE.

>> Stephen: SO EVEN WHAT SOME MIGHT CALL WEAK TEA PROPOSALS BY

THE REPUBLICANS RIGHT NOW WOULDN'T BE HAPPENING IF THERE

WEREN'T THESE PROTESTS IN THE STREETS?

>> I'M SURE OF IT.

I'M SURE OF IT.

I'M SURE OF IT.

AND IT'S TRAGIC BECAUSE THE REALITY IS THESE-- THESE

PROTESTS HAVE BEEN HAPPENING IN MAYBE SMALLER FORM FOR

GENERATIONS, BUT LET'S JUST LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

AND-- AND ACKNOWLEDGE, TO YOUR POINT, YEAH, HAD THESE PROTESTS,

HAD PEOPLE BY THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS NOT BEEN OUT THERE

MARCHING, MANY WHO MIGHT BE RELATIVES OF THOSE VERY PEOPLE

WHO HAVE BEEN OBSTRUCTIONISTS UNTIL NOW, WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T

BE WHERE WE ARE.

BUT, AGAIN, BACK TO WHERE WE ARE, WHAT THE REPUBLICANS ARE

PROPOSING IS BY MANY ACCOUNTS-- AND CERTAINLY BY MY ACCOUNT--

ABSOLUTELY INSUFFICIENT TO MEET THIS MOMENT AND WE NEED TO GO

WIT THE JUSTICE AND POLICING BILL.

>> Stephen: I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT I KNOW THERE ARE

PROTESTS STILL HAPPENING IN MAJOR CITIES ACROSS THE UNITED

STATES.

>> YES.

>> Stephen: I'M JUST NOT SEEING THE REPORTING ON IT THAT

I HAD FOR THE FIRST FEW WEEKS.

>> BUT THAT'S.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO STOP.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO STOP.

THIS IS A MOVEMENT.

I'M TELLING YOU, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO STOP.

AND EVERYONE BEWARE, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO STOP.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO STOP BEFORE ELECTION DAY IN NOVEMBER, AND

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO STOP AFTER ELECTION DAY.

AND THAT SHOULD BE-- EVERYONE SHOULD TAKE NOTE OF THAT ON BOTH

LEVELS, THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LET UP, AND THEY SHOULD NOT,

AND WE SHOULD NOT.

>> Stephen: SENATOR, WE HAVE TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK, BUT WHEN

WE COME BACK WE'LL HAVE MORE WITH SENATOR HARRIS AND ASKS IF

SHE HAS ANY INTEREST IN BEING A VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE.

>> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY.

WE'RE BACK WITH SENATOR KAMALA HARRIS.

"THE WASHINGTON POST" HAS PUBLISHED WHAT THEY BELIEVE

TOOBILITY SHORT LIST OF VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES TO JOIN

VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN, THE PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEE.

YOUR NAME'S ON THAT LIST.

FIRST QUESTION: WOULD YOU LIKE TO JOIN THE TICKET?

>> I'D BE HONORED IF ASKED.

AND I'M HONORED TO BE A PART OF THE CONVERSATION.

BUT, HONESTLY, LET ME JUST TELL YOU SOMETHING-- I WILL DO

EVERYTHING IN MY POWER WHEREVER I AM TO HELP JOE BIDEN WIN.

I BELIEVE THIS IS THE MOST-- AND WITHOUT-- THIS IS NOT RHETORIC.

I TRULY BELIEVE THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION IN OUR

LIFETIME.

AND WHEN WE HAVE DONALD TRUMP SITTING IN THE WHITE HOUSE WHILE

HIS BOY, BILL BARR, AS ATTORNEY GENERAL, BUT REALLY WHAT HE IS,

IS THE PRESIDENT'S PERSONAL LAWYER, IS IN THE SUPREME COURT

TRYING TO GET RID OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT IN THE

MIDDLE OF A PANDEMIC, A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS, AND THEY'RE

TRYING TO GET RID OF AN INITIATIVE, THE AFFORDABLE CARE

ACT, THAT BROUGHT HEALTHCARE TO 30 MILLION PEOPLE.

JUSTICE IS ON THE BALLOT IN 2020, AND SAYING GOODBYE TO

DONALD TRUMP AND, YOU KNOW, GO BACK TO TRUMP TOWER HAS TO BE AN

IMPERATIVE OF ALL OF US.

WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT WE NEED TO DO ABOUT ADDRESSING THIS

PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS AND EMBRACING SCIENTISTS SPEAKING

TRUTH, AND DEDICATING OURSELVES NOT JUST TO TREATMENT BUT

GETTING PEOPLE BACK TO WORK, AND NOT JUST PEOPLE IN PUBLICLY

TRADED COMPANIES BUT THE SMALL-BUSINESS OWNERS, WE KNOW

WE NEED A NEW LEADER IN OUR COUNTRY.

AND I COULD GO ON AND ON DOWN THE LIST OF WHY THIS IS PROBABLY

THE MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION IN OUR LIFETIME.

>> Stephen: WOMAN, FROM AN OUTSIDER WHO DOESN'T REALLY KNOW

BOTH OF YOU VERY WELL, YOUR RELATIONSHIP, WHICH SEEMS LIKE A

GOOD ONE NOW, REALLY DOES BRING HOME THE-- THE OLD PHRASE

"POLITICS MAKES FOR STRANGE-- LET'S SAY PARTNERSHIP."

BECAUSE IN THOSE DEBATES, YOU LANDED HAYMAKERS ON JOE BIDEN.

I MEAN, THEY WERE HIS-- HIS TEETH WERE LIKE CHICKLETS ALL

OVER THE STAGE.

AND NOW, I BELIEVE YOU THAT YOU'RE FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF HIM.

HOW DOES THAT TRANSITION HAPPEN?

HOW DO YOU GO FROM BEING SUCH A PASSIONATE OPPONENT ON SUCH

BEDROCK PRINCIPLES FOR YOU, AND NOW, YOU GUYS SEEM TO BE PALS?

>> IT WAS A DEBATE!

>> Stephen: NOT EVERYBODY LANDED PUNCHES LIKE YOU DID,

THOUGH.

>> IT WAS A DEBATE!

>> Stephen: SO YOU DON'T MEAN IT.

>> IT WAS A DEBATE.

THE WHOLE REASON-- LITERALLY, IT WAS A DEBATE.

IT WAS CALLED A "DEBATE."

>> Stephen: I UNDERSTAND.

>> AND THERE WERE JOURNALISTS THERE COVERING THE DEBATE WHERE

THERE WOULD BE A DEBATE OF DIFFERENCES OF OPINION AND

ISSUES.

>> Stephen: OKAY.

>> I AM 1,000% SUPPORTIVE OF JOE BIDEN, AND I WILL, AGAIN, DO

EVERYTHING I CAN TO MAKE SURE HE IS ELECTED.

>> Stephen: AND I-- AND I 100% BELIEVE YOU.

I WAS JUST ASKING THE TRANSITION AFTER THE DEBATE, PERHAPS BACK

TO THE HANDSHAKING.

>> I MEAN, IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, I'VE KNOWN JOE A LONG TIME, AND

I CARE-- I CARE ABOUT HIM DEEPLY.

AND AS YOU KNOW, WE ALL HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS OR FRIENDS WITH

WHOM WE HAVE DISAGREEMENTS.

THAT DOESN'T OVERCOME, OR OVERSHADOW THE COMMONALITY

BETWEEN US AND THE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN US.

>> Stephen: WELL, SPEAKING OF DEBATES, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GET

ON STAGE AND DEBATE MIKE PENCE?

I WOULD-- I'D BUY A TICKET TO THAT.

>> WE'LL JUST ONE DAY AT A TIME.

RIGHT NOW I'M DEBATING MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES ON OUR

BILL.

SO THAT'S WHERE I AM TODAY.

>> Stephen: GOOD LUCK.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Stephen: THANK YOU, SENATOR, FOR BEING HERE.

>> THANK YOU, GOOD TO BE WITH YOU.

>> Stephen: SENATOR KAMALA HARRIS, EVERYBODY!

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH A PERFORMANCE BY MILKY CHANCE AND

JACK JOHNSON.

STICK AROUND ♪ ♪ ♪

>> AND NOW WHAT IF RABBITS BRED AT THE RATE THAT TUCKER CARLSON

SAID SOMETHING RACIST.

>> BLACK LIVES MATTER IS FAR MORE AMBITIOUS THAN THAT.

IT IS WORKING TO REMAKE THE COUNTRY AND THEN TO CONTROL IT.

IT IS SINGLE-HANDEDLY REVISED OUR MORAL FRAMEWORK.

CONSIDER SOME OF THE OTHER POSITIONS BLACK LIVES MATTER HAS

ENDORSED: THE REPEAL OF ALL IMMIGRATION RESTRICTIONS, THE

LEGALIZATION OF SEX WORK, PROSTITUTION.

THE DESTRUCTION OF THE NUCLEAR FAMILY, YOUR FAMILY.

THE FORCED REALTERCATION OF FARMLAND.

BLACK LIVES MATTER BELIEVES IN FORCE.

THEY FLOOD THE STREETS WITH ANGRY YOUNG PEOPLE WHO BREAK

THINGS AND THEY HURT ANYONE WHO GETS IN THE WAY.

WHEN THEY WANT SOMETHING THEY TAKE IT.

MAKE THEM MAD, AND THEY WILL SET YOUR BUSINESS ON FIRE.

ANNOY THEM AND THEY WILL OCCUPY YOUR DOWNTOWN AND DECLARE A

BRAND NEW COUNTRY.

♪ ♪ ♪ >> Stephen: WELCOME BACK.

PERFORMING THEIR SONG, "DON'T LET ME DOWN," PLEASE WELCOME,

MILKY CHANCE AND JACK JOHNSON.

♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ I SEEN HER EYES AND YET

SHE GOT ME SHININ' ♪ OH, SHE REALLY DID

LIKE NO ONE EVER DID ♪ I'VE SEEN 'EM FALL AND YET

SHE MADE THE CALL ♪ AND SO MUCH IN MY DREAM

YOU NEVER CAN REDEEM ♪ JUST DIE A LITTLE BIT

OH, FLY A LITTLE ♪ FOREVER LEAVIN' GROUND

AMAZEMENT ALL AROUND ♪ PLEASE HIM, PLEASE HIM

WHEN YOU LEAVE HIM ♪ JUST DON'T LET ME DOWN

I'M BEGGING YOU ♪ JUST DON'T LET ME DOWN

I'M BEGGING YOU ♪ I'M DREAMIN' OF A DREAM

THAT IS NEVER GONNA END ♪ OH, YOU GOTTA SEE IT

IT'LL TREAT YOU RIGHT ♪ JUST DON'T LET ME DOWN

HEAVENLY ♪ I SEEN YOUR WINGS

WHEN THEY'RE WORKIN' ♪ WHEN THEY'RE OPEN

WHEN THEY TAKE YOU OUT ♪ WHAT THEY BRING BACK HOME

AND I SEEN THIS PLACE ♪ WHEN IT'S FULL OF ALL

THE LIGHT THAT COMES IN ♪ BETWEEN THE MOMENTS

EVEN IF THEY'RE BROKEN ♪ AND I WAS CRAWLING WITH

THOUGHTS FALLIN' OF PIECES ♪ OF THINGS THAT WE BELIEVE

WHO ARE WE TO DREAM?

♪ THE WIND WAS BLOWIN' IT'S MADE ITSELF AT HOME

♪ BUT IT'S LEAVIN' AND YOU'RE LEAVIN'

♪ JUST DON'T LET ME DOWN I'M BEGGING YOU

♪ I'M BEGGING YOU JUST DON'T LET ME DOWN

♪ I'M BEGGING YOU, BEGGING YOU I'M DREAMIN' OF A DREAM

♪ THAT IS NEVER GONNA END OH, YOU GOTTA SEE IT

♪ IT'LL TREAT YOU RIGHT TREAT YOU RIGHT

♪ JUST DON'T LET ME DOWN HEAVENLY

♪ THERE COMES A DAY THAT I'M LEAVIN'

♪ OH, I'M BEGGING YOU DON'T LET ME DOWN

♪ DON'T LET ME DOWN TREAT ME RIGHT

♪ TREAT ME RIGHT HEAVENLY

♪ JUST DON'T LET ME DOWN I'M BEGGING YOU

♪ I'M BEGGING YOU JUST DON'T LET ME DOWN

♪ I'M BEGGING YOU, BEGGING YOU I'M DREAMIN' OF A DREAM

♪ THAT IS NEVER GONNA END OH, YOU GOTTA SEE IT

♪ IT'LL TREAT YOU RIGHT ♪ JUST DON'T LET ME DOWN

HEAVENLY ♪ >> Stephen: THANK YOU MILKY

CHANCE AND JACK JOHNSON.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

>> Stephen: THAT'S IT FOR "A LATE SHOW," EVERYBODY.

TUNE IN TOMORROW WHEN MY GUESTS WILL BE PRESIDENT OF THE

N.A.A.C.P. LEGAL DEFENSE FUND, SHERRILYN IFILL, AND COMEDIAN

MIKE BIRBIGLIA.

now STICK AROUND FOR JAMES CORDEN, BUT FIRST, LET'S SAY

GOOD NIGHT WITH SOME MUSIC FROM JON BATISTE AND STAY HUMAN.

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