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>> CHANGES BIG AND SMALL ARE
ALREADY TAKING PLACE ACROSS THE

COUNTRY.

THIS MORNING, QUAKER OATS SAYS
IT WILL BE RETIRING THE AUNT

JEMIMA BRAND AND THE LOGO,
ACKNOWLEDGING ITS ORIGINS ARE

BASED ON A RACIAL STEREOTYPE.

♪ ♪ ♪
>> HI, I'M ROGER CORNSWORTH,

C.E.O. OF THE UNITED PANCAKE
MANUFACTURERS CONSORTIUM.

WE'VE DECIDED TO DISCONTINUE THE
POPULAR AUNT JEMIMA BRAND,

TAKING SWIFT ACTION AFTER BEING
MADE AWARE THE PRODUCT WAS

OFFENSIVE 90 YEARS AGO.

BUT WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR ANY
ACCOLADES, BECAUSE THIS IS JUST

THE LATEST IN A SERIES OF US
RESPONDING TO RACIST DEPICTIONS

OF BREAKFAST MASCOTS.

I DON'T NEED TO REMIND YOU THAT
IN 1912, WE AGREED TO REMOVE

FROM THE SHELF DRUNKY
O'LEPRECHAUN'S PADDY WAGON

O'LIQUID GOLD.

IT WAS WRONG AND DELICIOUS.

THEN IN 1926, WE AGAIN TOOK
ACTION WHEN WE DISCONTINUED PAPA

GIUSEPPE'S MAMMA MIA.

THAT'S A SPICY BUCKWHEAT GRAVY.

BUT WE WERE NOT FINISHED.

IN 1950, AFTER A MINOR UPROAR,
WE DECIDED TO STOP SELLING

COUSIN ABRAHAM'S MASHUGANA
FLAPJACK SCHMALTZ.

AND NOW, A MERELY 70 YEARS
LATER, WE'RE DISCONTINUING AUNT

JEMIMA.

YOU HAVE SPOKEN, AND WE
LISTENED.

BUT DON'T WORRY, YOU'LL STILL
HAVE PLENTY OF OPTIONS FOR YOUR

BREAKFAST TOPPING LIKE CHAIRMAN
WOW'S REVOLUTIONARY WAFFLE YAKI.

WHAT?

SINCE WHEN!

>> IT'S "A LATE SHOW WITH
STEPHEN COLBERT."

TONIGHT:
DANGEROUS CURVE AHEAD.

PLUS, STEPHEN WELCOMES
SENATOR KAMALA HARRIS

AND MUSICAL GUESTS MILKY CHANCE
AND JACK JOHNSON

FEATURING JON BATISTE AND STAY
HOMIN'.

AND NOW, LIVE ON TAPE FROM A
SAFE DISTANCE, IT'S STEPHEN

COLBERT!

♪ ♪ ♪
>> WOULD YOU CLIP THAT OFF?

WOULD YOU BE COMFORTABLE DOING
THAT?

>> YEAH.

>> Stephen: OKAY, LATER.

LATER.

WELCOME TO "A LATE SHOW."

I'M YOUR HOST, STEPHEN COLBERT.

WE'VE ALL BEEN QUARANTINING FOR
MONTHS, AND I'VE BEEN GOING A

LITTLE STIR-CRAZY.

BUT THAT'S COMPLETELY NORMAL,
ACCORDING TO MY THERAPIST,

DOCTOR KAHLUA.

AND THE DANGER IS NOT GOING TO
PASS ANYTIME SOON, BECAUSE 20

STATES ARE NOW SEEING A RISE
IN CORONAVIRUS CASES, AND

"FLORIDA, TEXAS, AND ARIZONA ALL
JUST SET RECORDS FOR THE MOST

CASES THEY HAVE REPORTED IN A
SINGLE DAY."

CORONAVIRUS IS SURGING.

OR, AS TRUMP PUT IT:
>> THE GREAT AMERICAN COMEBACK.

>> Stephen: EVERY EPIDEMIOLOGIST
WARNED US NOT TO OPEN UP TOO

SOON.

THIS IS THE MOST PREDICTABLE
HEALTH OUTCOME SINCE THE C.D.C.

PUBLISHED ITS LANDMARK STUDY
"HEALTH PROJECTIONS AND

INFLAMMATION RESULTS OF
STICKIN'
YOUR PENIS IN THAT HORNET'S

NEST."

SEVERAL STATES IN THE SOUTH AND
SOUTHWESTERN U.S. OPENED FOR

BUSINESS DESPITE THOSE WARNINGS,
AND NOW COVID IS SEEING A

"STEADY SPREAD ACROSS THE SUN
BELT."

SO THE EXACT THING THAT WE WERE
TOLD WOULD HAPPEN IS NOW

HAPPENING, AND YOU'D HAVE TO BE
A COMPLETE IDIOT TO DENY IT.

( KNOCKING )
WAIT, WHO'S THAT AT THE DUMB

DOOR?

WHY, IT'S VICE PRESIDENT MIKE
PENCE, SEEN HERE REPENTING FOR

EATING A JALAPENO POPPER.

( AS PENCE )
"I SWEAR, MOTHER, I THOUGHT IT

WAS A HUSH PUPPY."

DON'T TELL ICE."

ON MONDAY, ON A CALL WITH
GOVERNORS, PENCE TRIED TO BLAME

THE RISING INFECTION NUMBERS
ON "AN INCREASE IN TESTING,"

BECAUSE FOR PENCE, THE REAL
DISEASE IS KNOWLEDGE, AND YOU

CAN CATCH IT THROUGH THE EYES
AND THE EARS.

SO HE'S GOING TO NEED A NEW
MASK.

AND YESTERDAY, PENCE CRANKED UP
THE MAKE-BELIEVE AND RIPPED OFF

THE KNOB WITH AN OP-ED IN "THE
WALL STREET JOURNAL" ENTITLED

"THERE ISN'T A CORONAVIRUS
'SECOND WAVE.'"

GREAT NEWS FOR ALL THE THOUSANDS
OF PEOPLE WHO CHECKED INTO

HOSPITALS THIS WEEK!

YOU CAN GO HOME!

TURNS OUT, YOU WERE FAKIN' IT
FOR ALL THE FREE PUDDIN'.

PENCE'S ARGUMENT IS THAT,
DESPITE ALL EVIDENCE TO THE

CONTRARY, WE SHOULD NOT FREAK
OUT, WRITING, "THE MEDIA HAS

TAKEN TO SOUNDING THE ALARM
BELLS OVER CORONAVIRUS

INFECTIONS.

SUCH PANIC IS OVERBLOWN."

EVERY TIME YOU'VE SAID SOMETHING
ABOUT COVID IS OVERBLOWN, YOU'VE

BEEN WRONG!

I THINK THE PANIC IS PERFECTLY
BLOWN.

LIKE, IN TERMS OF HOW THIS PANIC
IS BLOWN, LET'S JUST SAY THE

PANIC IS HAVING AN AMAZING
BIRTHDAY.

NOW, KEEP IN MIND, PENCE IS THE
SAME MEDICAL GENIUS WHO ONLY 20

YEARS AGO WROTE AN ARTICLE
ARGUING THAT "DESPITE THE

HYSTERIA FROM THE POLITICAL
CLASS AND THE MEDIA, SMOKING

DOESN'T KILL."

YOU DO NOT WANT MIKE PENCE AS
YOUR DOCTOR.

( AS PENCE )
"I AM AFRAID HAVE BAD NEWS.

I'M AFRAID YOUR LUNG X-RAY
SHOWS A RAPIDLY GROWING MASS OF

MEDIA HYSTERIA.

I'M GOING TO WRITE YOU A
PRESCRIPTION FOR COOL-MENTHOL

FLAVOR.

IT'LL RELAX YOUR T-ZONE."

FORTUNATELY, WE ARE ALSO HEARING
FROM SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY KNOWS

STUFF, THE NATION'S TOP
EPIDEMIOLOGIST, DR. ANTHONY

FAUCI, SEEN HERE WASHING YOUR
HANDS WITH HIS EYES.

FAUCI HAD SOME GOOD NEWS.

"THERE'S NO NEED FOR A SECOND
LOCKDOWN FOR COVID-19."

WOO-HOO!

BURN YOUR MASKS, LICK THE
GROCERIES, AND TEAR DOWN YOUR

SEX WALL!

WE'RE FREE!

IS WHAT I WOULD SAY IF I DIDN'T
ACTUALLY READ THE ARTICLE.

TURNS OUT, DESPITE THE HEADLINE,
WHAT FAUCI ACTUALLY SAID WAS, "I

DON'T LIKE TO TALK ABOUT A
SECOND WAVE RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE

WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN OUT OF OUR
FIRST WAVE."

COME ON, TONY!

DON'T PLAY US LIKE THAT.

THAT'S LIKE SAYING, "HONEY, I
PROMISE I'M NOT GOING TO CHEAT

ON YOU AGAIN, BECAUSE I NEVER
STOPPED CHEATING ON YOU THE

FIRST TIME.

COME ON IN, DIANE!

YOU'RE GONNA LIKE HER.

COME ON IN!"
UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S NO WAY

THE PRESIDENT KNOWS HOW BAD
THINGS ARE, BECAUSE "FAUCI SAYS

HE HAS NOT TALKED WITH TRUMP IN
TWO WEEKS."

WELL, THAT'S JUST COMMON SENSE.

WHEN YOU'RE EXPOSED TO TRUMP,
YOU WANT TO QUARANTINE FOR 14

DAYS TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVEN'T
BEEN INFECTED WITH

MORON-A-VIRUS.

SYMPTOMS INCLUDE RAMP-SHUFFLE
AND RESTLESS DOUCHE SYNDROME.

FAUCI BROKE SOME OTHER
DISTURBING NEWS.

REMEMBER HOW AT THE BEGINNING OF
THE PANDEMIC, PUBLIC HEALTH

EXPERTS SAID, "DON'T WEAR
MASKS," AND THEN LATER SAID,

"OH, YEAH, WEAR MASKS"?

WELL, THERE'S A REASON:
>> WHY WERE WE TOLD LATER IN THE

SPRING TO WEAR THEM WHEN WE WERE
INITIALLY TOLD NOT TO?

>> WELL, THE REASON FOR THAT IS
WE WERE CONCERNED-- THE PUBLIC

HEALTH COMMUNITY, AND MANY
PEOPLE WERE SAYING THIS-- WERE

CONCERNED THAT IT WAS AT A TIME
WHEN PERSONAL PROTECTIVE

EQUIPMENT, INCLUDING THE N95
MASKS AND THE SURGICAL MASKS,

WERE IN VERY SHORT SUPPLY.

SO, THERE WAS NOT ENTHUSIASM
ABOUT GOING OUT AND EVERYBODY

BUYING A MASK OR GETTING A MASK.

WE WERE AFRAID THAT THAT WOULD
DETER AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE WHO

REALLY NEEDED IT.

>> Stephen: OKAY, THAT MAKES
LOGICAL SENSE, BUT IT'S NOT AN

EXCUSE FOR LYING TO THE AMERICAN
PUBLIC.

YOU COULD HAVE TOLD US TO WEAR A
BANDANNA OVER OUR FACES,

OR A SCARF, OR EAT A WHOLE GIANT
CONTAINER OF CHEESEBALLS AND

THEN SHOVE THE EMPTY PLASTIC JAR
OVER OUR HEADS.

I WOULD HAVE DONE THAT!

I HAVE DONE THAT.

FAUCI ALSO MADE IT CLEAR THAT WE
SHOULD NOT BE RUSHING TO REOPEN.

WHEN ASKED IF HE WOULD ATTEND
TRUMP'S UPCOMING RALLY IN TULSA,

HE REPLIED, "NO," ADDING THAT,
WHEN IT CAME TO TRUMP'S RALLIES

"OUTSIDE IS BETTER THAN INSIDE,
NO CROWD IS BETTER THAN CROWD,"

AND "CROWD IS BETTER THAN BIG
CROWD."

AND IF THE PRESIDENT NEEDS A
VISUAL REFERENCE FOR WHAT AN

OUTSIDE, NOT-BIG CROWD LOOKS
LIKE, IT'S THIS.

YOU WERE AHEAD OF YOUR TIME,
SIR.

NOW, WE'RE LEARNING MORE DETAILS
ABOUT TRUMP'S LAWSUIT TRYING TO

BLOCK THE PUBLICATION OF A NEW
BOOK BY FORMER NATIONAL SECURITY

ADVISER AND THE SCRUBBING
BUBBLES' DISAPPROVING

GRANDFATHER, JOHN BOLTON.

THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT IS SUING
BOLTON FOR BREACHING HIS

NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT.

EXPERTS ARE CALLING THE LAWSUIT
ONE OF THE MOST EXTREME ATTEMPTS

TO STOP A FORMER TRUMP ADVISER
FROM RECOUNTING HIS EXPERIENCE.

AND IT AIN'T GOING TO WORK.

FIRST OF ALL, THEY'VE ALREADY
DISTRIBUTED TOO MANY COPIES OF

"THE ROOM WHERE IT HAPPENED"--
SPECIFICALLY, TO MY ROOM, WHERE

IT'S HAPPENIN'.

SECOND, ACCORDING TO ONE EXPERT,
"EVERY TIME THE GOVERNMENT HAS

TRIED TO PREVENT SOMEONE FROM
PUBLISHING WHAT THEY BELIEVE TO

BE CLASSIFIED, THEY HAVE LOST."

FOR MORE, WE TURN TO CBS LEGAL
ANALYST, WALTER SOBCHAK:

WALTER.

>> FOR YOUR INFORMATION, THE
SUPREME COURT HAS ROUNDLY

REJECTED PRIOR RESTRAINT.

>> Stephen: THANK YOU FOR THAT
ANALYSIS, WALTER.

ANY OTHER MESSAGE FOR THE
PRESIDENT?

>> FORGET IT, DONNIE, YOU'RE
OUT OF YOUR ELEMENT.

>> Stephen: THANK YOU, WALTER.

TRUMP'S LAWSUIT CLAIMS BOLTON'S
BOOK DIDN'T FINISH THE

PRE-PUBLICATION PROCESS.

BUT AFTER ROUNDS OF EDITS ENDING
IN LATE APRIL, THE NATIONAL

SECURITY OFFICIAL WHO REVIEWED
THE BOOK "DETERMINED THAT THE

LATEST VERSION OF THE MANUSCRIPT
NO LONGER CONTAINED CLASSIFIED

INFORMATION."

OH.

BUT LESS THAN A WEEK LATER-- YOU
OKAY OVER THERE?

>> YEAH.

BUT LESS THAN A WEEK LATER, THE
WHITE HOUSE STARTED ANOTHER

OFFICIAL REVIEW THAT CAME AT THE
REQUEST OF NATIONAL SECURITY

ADVISER ROBERT O'BRIEN.

AND THE WHITE HOUSE HAS NOW
TAKEN LONGER TO REVIEW THE BOOK

THAN BOLTON DID TO WRITE IT.

THAT'S WHY BOLTON'S ALREADY
WORKING ON THE SEQUEL: "THE ROOM

WHERE 'THE ROOM WHERE IT
HAPPENED' ALMOST DIDN'T HAPPEN."

AND YOU CAN SEE WHY TRUMP IS SO
DESPERATE TO KILL THIS BOOK.

BECAUSE THIS AFTERNOON, SEVERAL
NEWSPAPERS PUBLISHED EXCERPTS.

AND I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M SAYING
THIS.

IT'S WORSE THAN EVEN I IMAGINED.

LET'S START SMALL.

NOT A GREAT SIGN WHEN YOU'RE
MEETING WITH A MURDEROUS

DICTATOR AND YOUR TEAM IS
PASSING MEAN NOTES ABOUT YOU.

ACCORDING TO BOLTON, TRUMP'S
IGNORANCE IS NEAR BOTTOMLESS.

APPARENTLY, TRUMP DIDN'T SEEM TO
KNOW THAT BRITAIN WAS A NUCLEAR

POWER AND ASKED IF FINLAND WERE
PART OF RUSSIA.

NOW, YOU CAN UNDERSTAND HIS
CONFUSION THERE, BECAUSE UNDER

TRUMP, WE'RE KIND OF PART OF
RUSSIA.

( RUSSIAN MUSIC )
>> KREM-SLAM!

>> Stephen: I WISH YOU COULD
HAVE SEEN MY LEGS.

I WAS JUST AMAZING.

BOLTON ALSO SAYS THAT
INTELLIGENCE BRIEFINGS WERE A

WASTE OF TIME "SINCE MUCH OF THE
TIME WAS SPENT LISTENING

TO TRUMP, RATHER THAN TRUMP
LISTENING TO THE BRIEFERS."

( AS TRUMP )
"UGH, I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY CALL

THIS A 'BRIEF' WHEN IT GOES ON
SO LONG.

CHANGE OF SUBJECT: HERE ARE MY
FAVORITE WAYS TO EAT POTATOES IN

ORDER OF PREFERENCE: FRIED,
FRENCH FRIED, DEEP FRIED-- YOU

WRITIN' THIS DOWN?

TATER TOTTLED, MASHED, SMASHED,
WAFFLED, AND CURLY.

NOT A FAN OF THE CURLY.

IT'S A MEAL, NOT AN OBSTACLE
COURSE.

ANYWAY, WHAT'S NEXT?

NUKES?

YOU CAN'T NUKE FRIES.

THEY GET ALL MUSHY."

TURNS OUT TRUMP MADE IT A HABIT
TO ASK FOREIGN COUNTRIES TO

INTERFERE IN OUR ELECTIONS.

BOLTON WRITES THAT TRUMP
DIRECTLY ASKED CHINA'S XI TO BUY

AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS TO HELP
HIM WIN FARM STATES IN 2020 AND

WAS "PLEADING WITH XI TO ENSURE
HE'D WIN,"

"BUY THE WHEAT, OR I'M DEAD
MEAT!

ALSO, ARIZONA IS NOT LOOKING
GOOD FOR ME, SO I'M GOING TO

NEED YOU GUYS TO BUY A LOT OF
ICED TEA."

NOW HERE'S WHERE THE STORY GOES
FROM AMORAL IDIOCY TO DOWNWRITE

EVIL.

I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THOSE
CHINESE CONCENTRATION CAMPS ARE

HORRIBLE.

BUT YOU KNOW, TRUMP IS A
BUILDER.

I'M SURE HE HOOKED UP XI WITH A
GREAT CONTRACTOR, MAYBE THE SAME

GUY WHO BUILT TRUMP'S BABY
CAGES.

BOLTEN SAID WHEN HE ARRIVED, HE
WAS GIVEN A WARNING.

SOUND LIKE WORKING THERE WAS
LIKE THE MOVIE "GET OUT" EXCEPT

THE CHARACTERES WERE MUCH MORE
HOSTILE TO BLACK PEOPLE.

BUT WHILE WE'RE ON THE SUBJECT,
BOO-(BLEEP)-HOO.

IT'S THE WHITE HOUSE, NOT DAIRY
QUEEN.

IF IT'S A HORRIBLE PLACE, YOU'RE
OBLIGATED TO TELL THE WORLD AND

SAVE THE NATION, NOT PRIVATELY
BITCH ABOUT IT WITH YOUR BUDDY

'TIL THERE'S AN OPENING AT COLD
STONE CREAMERY!

AND IT GET MORE DISTURBING.

NOW, HE MAY HAVE SAID THAT, BUT
I DOUBT FRUMP WOULD EVER EXECUTE

A JOURNALIST.

HE WOULD ASK JARED TO HAVE HIS
SAUDI FRIENDS DO IT.

BUT MAYBE MOST DAMNING OF ALL IS
BOLTON'S DESCRIPTION OF TRUMP'S

PATTERN OF CORRUPTION.

HE DESCRIBED SEVERAL EPISODES
WHERE THE PRESIDENT EXPRESSED

WILLINGNESS TO HALT CRIMINAL
INVESTIGATIONS "TO, IN EFFECT,

GIVE PERSONAL FAVORS TO
DICTATORS HE LIKED," CITING

CASES INVOLVING MAJOR FIRMS IN
CHINA AND TURKEY.

ADDING, "THE PATTERN LOOKED LIKE
OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE AS A WAY

OF LIFE, WHICH WE COULDN'T
ACCEPT."

DAMN RIGHT!

JOHN BOLTON KNEW IT WAS WRONG TO
STAND IDLY BY AND ACCEPT THE

PRESIDENT REPEATEDLY OBSTRUCTING
JUSTICE!

HE KNEW THAT THE RIGHT THING WAS
TO STAND IDLY BY AND WAIT FOR

THAT BOOK DEAL.

SEE YOU TUESDAY, SIR!

WE'VE GOT A GREAT SHOW FOR YOU
TONIGHT.

MY GUEST TONIGHT IS SENATOR
KAMALA HARRIS.

STICK AROUND.

♪♪

>> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY,
WELCOME BACK TO "A LATE SHOW."

LET'S GO TO MY FAVORITE PART OF
THE EVENING AND SAY HELLO TO OUR

FRIEND, JON BATISTE.

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>> Jon: WOOO!

>> Stephen: I MEAN, IT'S A
DANCE CRAZE, JON.

IT'S GOING TO EXPLOED ON TIKTOK.

>> Jon: WHAT ARE WE GOING TO
CALL IT?

WHAT ARE WE CALLING IT?

WHAT IS IT?

>> Stephen: "THE BATISTE?"
I DON'T KNOW, YOU STARTED IT.

I WAS JUST TRYING TO COPY YOU.

>> Jon: YEAH.

>> Stephen: JON BATISTE,
EVERYBODY.

I'LL SEE YOU TOMORROW, MAN.

>> Jon: YES, INDEED, LAY IT
ON!

>> Stephen: JOINING ME TONIGHT
IS THE FORMER CALIFORNIA

ATTORNEY GENERAL AND
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE WHO

CURRENTLY SERVES AS ONLY THE
SECOND BLACK FEMALE SENATOR IN

U.S. HISTORY.

PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO "A LATE
SHOW," SENATOR KAMALA HARI.R.S.

SENATOR, THANK YOU FOR BEING
HERE.

>> GOOD TO SEE YOU.

>> Stephen: WE JUST LEARNED
RIGHT BEFORE THE INTERVIEW, THE

OFFICER, OFFICER ROAFL, WHO SHOT
RAYSHARD BROOKS IN ATLANTA, HAS

BEEN CHARGED WITH HOMICIDE.

HAVE YOU LOOKED AT ANY OF THE
CHARGES AND WHAT IS THE

SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS?

>> ONE SIGNIFICANCE OF IT IS
THAT THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY

THERE, CLEARLY FROM THE FIRST
MOMENTS OF THE INCIDENT AND THE

TRAGEDY, TOOK IT SERIOUSLY.

HE STARTED AN INVESTIGATION, AND
I THINK SWIFTLY ADDRESSED THE

ISSUE.

AND SO, NOW IT'S-- NOW THEY GO
TO TRIAL, AND THEY'LL PROCEED TO

TRIAL, AND THESE ARE DIFFICULT
CASES, BUT I HAVE CONFIDENCE IN

THE ABILITY OF THAT PROSECUTOR
TO SEEK JUSTICE AND TO ACHIEVE

JUSTICE.

>> Stephen: IT SEEMS LIKE A
SIMPLE THING TO HAVE HAPPEN,

ESPECIALLY SINCE THERE'S VIDEO
EVIDENCE.

BUT I THINK IT SHOWS IT'S KIND
OF A LOW BAR THAT THE POLICE

DEPARTMENTS AND DISTRICT
ATTORNEYS HAVE TO GET OVER IN

ORDER TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE
ISSUES OF THE PROTESTERS IN THE

STREETS.

IF-- IF SOMEONE SHOOTS AN
UNARMED MAN, BLACK OR WHITE,

THAT PERSON SHOULD FACE
CONSEQUENCES.

>> IT-- IT-- SO, PART OF WHAT
I'M FIGHTING FOR RIGHT HERE IN

D.C. RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE HAVE A
PACKAGE OF BILLS THAT WE'VE

NAMED "THE JUSTICE IN POLICING
ACT."

MY PARTNER ON IS SENATOR CORY
BOOKER FROM NEW JERSEY.

WE ARE MEMBERS OF THE
CONGRESSIONAL BLACK CAUCUS,

WHICH IS LEADING IT ON THE HOUSE
SIDE,WITH CONGRESSWOMAN KAREN

BASS.

ONE OF THE COMPONENTS OF THE
JUSTICE IN POLICING ACT IS

EXACTLY YOUR POINT, STEPHEN.

IT'S ABOUT THE FACT WHEN THESE
CASES GO TO COURT ON THE ISSUE

OF EXCESS 55 FORCE, IN MOST
JURISDICTIONS RIGHT NOW THE

QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED IS WAS
THAT USE OF FORCE REASONABLE?

AS YOU AND I KNOW YOU CAN REASON
AWAY JUST ABOUT ANYTHING.

WHAT WE ARE PUSHING FOR IS
INSTEAD THERE WOULD BE A MORE

JUST AND FAIR QUESTION WHICH IS
TO ASK, "WAS THAT USE OF FORCE

NECESSARY?"
SO CHANGE, THE STANDARD TO

ACTUALLY MEET THE POINT, WHICH
IS THAT WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT

THESE CASES AROUND THE COUNTRY,
THERE HAVE BEEN CASES THAT HAVE

BEEN CHARGED AND BROUGHT, BUT
THE BAR IS SO HIGH, IT'S ALMOST

INSURMOUNTABLE, WHICH MEANS THAT
THE COMMUNITIES AND THE FAMILIES

OF THESE VICTIMS DO NOT SEE
JUSTICE.

AND SO THAT IS PART OF WHAT WE
NEED TO DO TO REALLY RESTRUCTURE

THE WAY WE HANDLING THESE CASES.

>> Stephen: I KNOW THAT WE
HAD-- WE HAD SENATOR BOOKER ON,

AND I KNOW THAT THE TWO OF YOU
ARE WORKING ON THIS LEGISLATION.

>> YES.

>> Stephen: INTRODUCING IT
INTO THE SENATE.

McCONNELL HAS ANNOUNCED TIM
SCOTT'S "JUSTICE ACT," THAT WILL

GO TO THE FLOOR.

WILL YOU VOTE TO ADVANCE THAT TO
DEBATE?

AND IF NOT, WHAT'S IT MISSING
FOR YOU?

>> WELL, SO, I-- I THINK THAT
SENATOR SCOTT IS WELL

INTENTIONED, BUT, FRANKLY, THE--
WHAT-- WHAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED

JUST HAS NO TEETH.

WE NEED ACCOUNTABILITY AND
CONSEQUENCES.

THE INTEREST THING, STEPHEN,
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE CRIMINAL

JUSTICE SYSTEM, WE WILL OFTEN
USE THE PHRASE "CONSEQUENCE AND

ACCOUNTABILITY," AS IT RELATES
TO SOMEONE WHO IS ARRESTED, BUT

RARELY AS IT RELATES TO THE
SYSTEM ITSELF AND THOSE PEOPLE

WORKING WITHIN THE SYSTEM.

AND WHAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE, BY
THE THOUSANDS IN 50 STATES OF

AMERICA MARCHING FOR, IS THAT
THERE BE EQUAL JUSTICE UNDER LAW

AS WE PROMISE AS AN IDEAL, A
FOUNDING IDEAL OF OUR COUNTRY.

WE'RE NOT DOING THAT RIGHT NOW.

AND PART OF THE REASON WE'RE NOT
DOING THAT IS WE ARE NOT HOLDING

POLICE OFFICERS WHO BREAK THE
RULES AND BREAK THE LAW, WE ARE

NOT HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE.

AND THERE'S NOT SERIOUS
CONSEQUENCE.

AND SO, OUR BILL DOES THAT.

WHAT I'VE SEEN IN TERMS OF WHAT
WAS OFFERED TODAY ON THE

REPUBLICAN SIDE, IT TALKS ABOUT
TRAINING.

WELL, WE'VE BEEN TRAINING FOLKS.

IT TALKS ABOUT A NUMBER OF
THINGS THAT ARE NOT ABOUT

SERIOUS CONSEQUENCE AND
ACCOUNTABILITY FOR BAD BEHAVIOR

S.

>> Stephen: PRESIDENT TRUMP
ISSUED AN EXECUTIVE ORDER

YESTERDAY, I BELIEVE.

>> YEAH.

>> Stephen: WAS THERE ANYTHING
MEANINGFUL IN THERE FROM WHAT

YOU SAW IN?

>> NO, IT'S WINDOW DRESSING.

BUT THEN THAT'S USUALLY WHAT WE
GET OUT OF PRESIDENT TRUMP.

NO.

AND, AGAIN, THE POINT HERE IS
THAT PEOPLE ARE DEMANDING

CHANGE.

LISTEN, THERE IS-- FRANKLY, THE
SAD REALITY OF IT IS THAT WHEN

WE LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE
MURDER OF GEORGE FLOYD, WHEN WE

LOOK AT BREONNA TAYLOR, WHEN WE
LOOK AT THESE CASES THAT HAVE

REPEATEDLY HAPPENED IN OUR
COUNTRY, JUST MOST RECENTLY, BUT

IN THE CONTEXT OF JUST GO BACK
JUST ONLY 30 YEARS.

I'M NOT GOING TO EVEN REQUIRE
YOU TO GO BACK TO EMMET TILL.

GO BACK TO RODNEY KING.

THESE ARE NOT NEW GRIEVANCES,
BUT THEY HAVE GONE UNADDRESSED

BECAUSE THE SYSTEM IS FLAWED, IN
THAT IT HAS NOT HELD BAD ACTORS

ACCOUNTABLE FOR BAD ACTS.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ARE PUSH
FOR.

WE ARE SAY NO-KNOCK WARRANTS,
THAT THERE SHOULD BE NO ABILITY

TO HAVE NO-KNOCK WARRANT FOR
DRUG CASES.

BREONNA TAYLOR WOULD BE ALIVE
TODAY IF THERE HAD BEEN A BAN ON

NO-KNOCK WARRANT IN DRUG CASES.

THAT'S PART OF WHAT MY BILL
OFFERS.

MY BILL TOGETHER WITH, AGAIN,
THOSE THAT ARE PARTNERS THIS

THIS, IS SAYING WE NEED TO HAVE
INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATIONS.

I KNOW AS A FORMER PROSECUTOR,
THE D.A., THE STATE'S ATTORNEY,

WHO WORKS EVERY DAY WITH THAT
POLICE DEPARTMENT SHOULD NOT

NUMBER THE BUSINESS OF THEN
INVESTIGATING AND PROSECUTING A

POLICE OFFICER FROM THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT THEY WORK WITH EVERY

DAY.

AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU WHY.

NO MATTER HOW WELL INTENTIONED
THAT D.A. MAY BE, THERE WILL

STILL BE THE APPEARANCE OF
CONFLICT.

AND IN OUR SYSTEM OF JUSTICE, WE
MUST ACHIEVE ACTUAL JUSTICE AND

ALSO THE APPEARANCE OF JUSTICE.

AND THAT MEANS LET'S HAVE
INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATIONS.

I TALKED ABOUT A NATIONAL
STANDARD FOR USE OF FORCE.

LET'S ALSO HAVE PRACTICE--
PATTERN AND PRACTICE

INVESTIGATIONS.

WHEN I WAS THE ATTORNEY OF
CALIFORNIA, I INVESTIGATED LAW L

ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES THAT WERE
ALLEGED TO HAVE A PATTERN AND

PRACTICE OF DISCRIMINATION.

THAT SHOULD BE HAPPENING IN THE
UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF

JUSTICE, NO THANKS TO BILL BARR
AND DONALD TRUMP, VIRTUALLY

ENDED UNDER THIS ADMINISTRATION.

BUT WE NEED TO RENEW THOSE
INVESTIGATIONS AND ALSO GIVE

THEM THE SUBPOENA POWER TO
INVESTIGATE POLICE DEPARTMENTS

EVEN IF THEY DON'T WANT TO BE
INVESTIGATED.

>> Stephen: BECAUSE YOU WERE
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF

CALIFORNIA FOR, I BELIEVE SIX
YEARS?

>> YES, THAT'S RIGHT.

>> Stephen: SOMETIMES CALLED
THE STATE'S "TOP COP."

YOU GOT SOME CRITICISM FROM YOUR
DEMOCRATIC COLLEAGUES FOR SOME

OF THE ACTIONS YOU TOOK AS
ATTORNEY GENERAL.

BUT DOES IT ALSO GIVE YOU THE
ABILITY TO EXPLAIN TO THE POLICE

AND TO THOSE WHO MAY NOT
UNDERSTAND WHAT "DEFUND THE

POLICE" MEANS.

SOME PEOPLE MAY UNDERSTAND
DEMILITARIZE THE POLICE, OR

REFORM THE POLICE OR
RESTRUCTURE.

WHEN YOU HEAR "DEFUND" YOU CAN
EXPLAIN THAT IN A WAY THAT

DOESN'T SCARE SOME PEOPLE?

>> FIRST, I JUST WANT TO SAY
THAT I HAVE SEEN IN MY CAREER AS

A PROSECUTOR THAT POLICE AND
LEADERS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT COME

TO THE TABLE AND JOIN WITH A
MOVEMENT THAT IS ABOUT CREATING

GREATER TRUST OF THE SYSTEM AND
IN THE SYSTEM AND OF LAW

ENFORCEMENT.

WHEN I WAS ATTORNEY GENERAL OF
CALIFORNIA, WE PUT IN PLACE THE

FIRST IN THE NATION FOR A STATE
IMPLICIT BIAS AND PROCEDURAL

JUSTICE MANDATORY TRAINING FOR
POLICE OFFICERS.

AND THAT WAS BECAUSE LAW
ENFORCEMENT LEADERS CAME

TOGETHER WITH COMMUNITY LEADERS
AND SAID, "WE NEED TO

ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT ALL OF
US CARRY IMPLIELD BIAS, BUT WHEN

YOU HAVE A BADGE AND A GUN AND
YOU CARRY THAT, IT COULD LEAD TO

LETHAL CONSEQUENCES."

SO I HAVE SEEN IN MY CAREER HOW
WE CAN CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT

WHERE PEOPLE COME TOGETHER AND
ACKNOWLEDGE THE TRUTH, NO MATTER

HOW DIFFICULT THAT MAY BE, AND
DEAL WITH IT.

TO YOUR POINT, ON THIS ISSUE
OF-- YOU KNOW, THERE'S A HASHTAG

DEFUND THE POLICE.

I'VE NEVER REALLY TRIED TO PUT
ANYTHING I THINK ABOUT IN THE

CONTEXT OF A HASHTAG PUT BEBUT
WE NEED TO REIMAGINE HOW WE DO

PUBLIC SAFETY.

THE STATUS QUO THINKING HAS BEEN
BY PUTTING MORE POLICE OFFICERS

ON THE STREETS YOU WILL HAVE
MORE SAFETY.

THAT'S JUST WRONG.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, THE REALITY
IS UPPER MIDDLE-CLASS SUBURBS DO

NOT HAVE THAT KIND OF POLICE
PRESENCE.

BUT WHAT THEY DO HAVE?

WELL WITH-FUNDED SCHOOLS?

WHAT THEY DO HAVE, HIGH RATES OF
HOME OWNERSHIP.

WHAT THEY DO HAVE, FAMILIES THAT
HAVE MEANINGFUL YOBZ WITH

SALARIES THAT ALLOW THEM TO GET
THROUGH THE END OF THE MONTH

WITHOUT WORRYING ABOUT HOW TO
FEED THEIR CHILDREN.

WHAT THEY DO HAVE IS SMALL
BUSINESSES WITH ACCESS TO

CAPITAL.

WHAT THEY DO HAVE IS ACCESS TO
HEALTHCARE AND MENTAL HEALTH

CARE THAT IS AFFORDABLE.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOW TO
ACHIEVE SAFETY, WHICH SHOULD BE

OUR COLLECTIVE GOALS GOAL--
LET'S UNDERSTAND HEALTHY

COMMUNITIESES ARE SAFE
COMMUNITIES.

IN THE MANY CITIES IN AMERICA,
ONE-THIRD OF THEIR ENTIRE CITY

BUDGET IS DEDICATED TO POLICING,
WE REALLY HAVE TO HAVE AN HONEST

CONVERSATION ABOUT WHETHER THAT
IS THE SMARTEST USE OF THE

RESOURCES?

AND BY NO MEANS DOES THIS MEAN
FOR ME, BY NO MEANS DOES THIS

MEAN GETTING RID OF POLICE.

BUT IT DOES MEAN TAKING A
CRITICAL LOOK AT WHETHER WE'RE

ACTUALLY BEING SMART WITH
TAXPAYER DOLLARS IF THE GOAL IS

TRULY SAFETY BECAUSE IF IT IS,
INVEST IN SCHOOLS, INVEST IN

HEALTHCARE, INVEST IN JOBS AND
YOU'LL HAVE SAFE COMMUNITY S.

>> Stephen: FOLKS WE HAVE TO
TAKE A QUICK COMMERCIAL BREAK

BUT WHEN WE RETURN I'LL HAVE
MORE WITH SENATOR KAMALA HARRIS.

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>> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY,

WE'RE BACK WE'RE ARE SENATOR
KAMALA HARRIS.

YOU'VE JOINED PROTESTS IN
WASHINGTON, D.C.

FIRST OF ALL, DID YOU WEAR A
MASK?

>> I DID, BUT I WILL TELL YOU,
THE FIRST PROTEST I EVER

ATTENDED IN A STROLLER WHEN MY
PARENTS WERE MARCHING IN THE

60s.

SO IT'S KIND OF SOMETHING I'VE
DONE MY ENTIRE LIFE.

>> Stephen: I-- I KNOW THAT
YOUR-- YOUR MOM WAS VERY

POLITICALLY ACTIVE.

WHAT DID YOU LEARN FROM HER?

>> I LEARNED THAT-- THAT THE
GREATEST MOVEMENTS THAT HAVE--

THAT WE HAVE SEEN IN RECENT
HISTORY IN OUR COUNTRY, BUT

PROBABLY SINCE THE BEGINNING,
HAVE BEEN BORNE OUT OF PROTEST.

HAVE BEEN BORN OUT OF
UNDERSTANDING THE POWER OF THE

PEOPLE TO TAKE TO THE STREETS
AND FORCE THEIR GOVERNMENT TO--

TO BECOME-- TO ADDRESS WHAT IS
WRONG, THE INEQUITIES, THE

INEQUALITIES, THE UNFAIRNESS,
BUT ALSO THE CONSCIENCE OF A

GOVERNMENT IS ITS PEOPLE TO
FORCE THE GOVERNMENT TO-- TO BE

TRUE TO THE IDEALS THAT WE SAY
WE HOLD DEAR.

AND ALMOST EVERYONE ONE OF THOSE
MARCHES HAS BEEN ABOUT ONE

FUNDAMENTAL IDEAL IN OUR COUNTRY
WHICH IS EQUAL JUSTIFY JUSTICE

UNDER LAW AND FIGHTING TO MAKE
SURE WE HAVE A GOVERNMENT AND A

COUNTRY THAT LEAST EVERY, YOU
KNOW, FEW STEPS GETS CLOSER TO

ACHIEVING THAT IDEAL.

WE'VE NOT YET REACHED IT.

WE'VE NEVER ACTUALLY REACHED IT.

BUT THESE PROTESTS I THINK ARE
THE CATALYST TO GETTING THERE.

>> Stephen: WHAT DID YOU SEE
IN D.C.?

WHAT WAS IT LIKE TO-- TO MARCH
IN THOSE PROTESTS?

>> YEAH, YOU KNOW, IT WAS-- I'LL
TELL YOU ONE OF THE THINGS,

STEPHEN, THAT I SAW THAT GIVES
ME SUCH HOPE, PEOPLE WHO

SEEMINGLY HAVE NOTHING IN
COMMON, WHO KNOW THEY HAVE

EVERYTHING IN COMMON.

IT WAS REALLY-- IT'S A BEAUTIFUL
SIGHT.

PEOPLE OF EVERY RACE, AGE,
GENDER TOGETHER, AND SEEING THE

COMMONALITY, AND IT WAS THEN THE
COMMONALITY OF SPIRIT.

IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS SO
VERY POWERFUL, AND I THINK WE

VALUE TO RECOGNIZE IT FOR WHAT
IT IS.

THERE IS-- WE HAVE ARRIVEDAT A
POINT IN OUR COUNTRY THAT WE

SHOULD RECOGNIZE-- THIS IS NOT
JUST A MOMENT, IT IS A MOVEMENT.

IT IS A MOVEMENT THAT IS FUELED
BY THE DIVERSITY, THE BEAUTIFUL

DIVERSITY OF WHO WE ARE COMING
TOGETHER AS A UNIFIED BODY,

DEMANDING, IN THIS CASE CHANGE
AND JUSTICE FOR EVERYONE.

>> Stephen: AS A-- AS A
SENATOR, AS A POLITICIAN,

SOMEONE WHO HAS TO RESPOND TO
THE CONSTITUENTS, WHAT DO THESE

PROTESTS MEAN TO THE ABILITY TO
EFFECT CHANGE.

>> YEAH.

>> Stephen: LEGISLATIVELY.

BECAUSE THE REASON I ASK IS
BECAUSE--

>> YEAH.

>> Stephen: I WOKE UP THIS
MORNING, WE DO, LIKE, A NEWS

BREAKDOWN AT NIGHT, A NEWS
BREAKDOWN IN THE MORNING, I

LOOKED DOWN, AND ASKED WHERE IS
THE NEWS ON THE PROTESTS?

ARE THEY GONE?

ARE WE NOT TALKING ABOUT THEM
ANYMORE?

IT SEEMS TO ME IT HAS TO BE
SUSTAINED TO MAINTAIN THE

PRESSURE AND MAINTAIN THAT
COMMONALITY OF PURPOSE FOR

PEOPLE OF ALL RACES IN THE
UNITED STATES TO BRING THIS KIND

OF JUSTICE THAT'S BEING CALLED
FOR.

HOW IMPORTANT IS IT FOR THESE
PROTESTS TO CONTINUE?

>> IT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.

AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU
SOMETHING.

I MADE A VERY CONSCIOUS DECISION
TO BECOME A PROSECUTOR.

I GREW UP IN A COMMUNITY THAT
WAS NOT ALWAYS ON THE BEST END

OF LAW ENFORCEMENT IN TERMS OF
HOW THE LAWS WERE APPLIED.

THERE'S NOT A BLACK MAN I KNOW,
BE HE A RELATIVE OR'S FRIEND,

WHO HAS NOT BEEN THE SUBJECT OF
SOME SORT OF RACIAL PROFILING OR

EXCESSIVE FORCE.

SO WHEN I MADE A DECISION TO
BECOME A PROSECUTOR, IT WAS A

CONSCIOUS DECISION, WHICH WAS TO
GO INSIDE THE SYSTEM AND HAVE

SOME LEVERAGE THERE TO
EFFECTUATE CHANGE.

I SAY THAT TO SAY THIS: THE ONLY
WAY WE'RE GOING TO TRULY ACHIEVE

CHANGE IS WHEN THERE ARE PEOPLE
IN THE SYSTEM WHO ARE WILLING OR

PUSHING TO DO IT, AND WHEN THERE
ARE THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE OUTSIDE

OF THE SYSTEM DEMANDING IT.

I AM VERY CLEAR THAT SOME OF THE
SUCCESS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO

ACHIEVE AROUND CRIMINAL JUSTICE
REFORM WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED

IN RECENT YEARS WERE IT NOT FOR
BLACK LIVES MATTER, AND THE

INTENSITY AND THE BRILLIANCE OF
THAT MOVEMENT, THAT FORCED AT

LEAST THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME
COUNTER-FORCE TO THE STATUS QUO,

WHICH IS SO RELUCTANT TO CHANGE
IF NOT HOSTILE TO CHANGE.

THAT'S WHAT THESE MOVEMENTS DO,
THAT WHERE THESE SYSTEMS ARE SO

INVESTED AND INGRAINED IN WHAT
THEY CALL "TRADITION" BUT IS

STATUS QUO, OFTEN WHICH CAN BE
WRONG-HEADED, THESE MOVEMENTS

PROVIDE A COUNTER-FORCE TO GET
US TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE.

>> Stephen: SO EVEN WHAT SOME
MIGHT CALL WEAK TEA PROPOSALS BY

THE REPUBLICANS RIGHT NOW
WOULDN'T BE HAPPENING IF THERE

WEREN'T THESE PROTESTS IN THE
STREETS?

>> I'M SURE OF IT.

I'M SURE OF IT.

I'M SURE OF IT.

AND IT'S TRAGIC BECAUSE THE
REALITY IS THESE-- THESE

PROTESTS HAVE BEEN HAPPENING IN
MAYBE SMALLER FORM FOR

GENERATIONS, BUT LET'S JUST LOOK
AT WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

AND-- AND ACKNOWLEDGE, TO YOUR
POINT, YEAH, HAD THESE PROTESTS,

HAD PEOPLE BY THE HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS NOT BEEN OUT THERE

MARCHING, MANY WHO MIGHT BE
RELATIVES OF THOSE VERY PEOPLE

WHO HAVE BEEN OBSTRUCTIONISTS
UNTIL NOW, WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T

BE WHERE WE ARE.

BUT, AGAIN, BACK TO WHERE WE
ARE, WHAT THE REPUBLICANS ARE

PROPOSING IS BY MANY ACCOUNTS--
AND CERTAINLY BY MY ACCOUNT--

ABSOLUTELY INSUFFICIENT TO MEET
THIS MOMENT AND WE NEED TO GO

WIT THE JUSTICE AND POLICING
BILL.

>> Stephen: I WANT TO MAKE
CLEAR THAT I KNOW THERE ARE

PROTESTS STILL HAPPENING IN
MAJOR CITIES ACROSS THE UNITED

STATES.

>> YES.

>> Stephen: I'M JUST NOT
SEEING THE REPORTING ON IT THAT

I HAD FOR THE FIRST FEW WEEKS.

>> BUT THAT'S.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO STOP.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO STOP.

THIS IS A MOVEMENT.

I'M TELLING YOU, THEY'RE NOT
GOING TO STOP.

AND EVERYONE BEWARE, BECAUSE
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO STOP.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO STOP BEFORE
ELECTION DAY IN NOVEMBER, AND

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO STOP AFTER
ELECTION DAY.

AND THAT SHOULD BE-- EVERYONE
SHOULD TAKE NOTE OF THAT ON BOTH

LEVELS, THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING
TO LET UP, AND THEY SHOULD NOT,

AND WE SHOULD NOT.

>> Stephen: SENATOR, WE HAVE
TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK, BUT WHEN

WE COME BACK WE'LL HAVE MORE
WITH SENATOR HARRIS AND ASKS IF

SHE HAS ANY INTEREST IN BEING A
VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE.

>> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY.

WE'RE BACK WITH SENATOR KAMALA
HARRIS.

"THE WASHINGTON POST" HAS
PUBLISHED WHAT THEY BELIEVE

TOOBILITY SHORT LIST OF VICE
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES TO JOIN

VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN, THE
PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEE.

YOUR NAME'S ON THAT LIST.

FIRST QUESTION: WOULD YOU LIKE
TO JOIN THE TICKET?

>> I'D BE HONORED IF ASKED.

AND I'M HONORED TO BE A PART OF
THE CONVERSATION.

BUT, HONESTLY, LET ME JUST TELL
YOU SOMETHING-- I WILL DO

EVERYTHING IN MY POWER WHEREVER
I AM TO HELP JOE BIDEN WIN.

I BELIEVE THIS IS THE MOST-- AND
WITHOUT-- THIS IS NOT RHETORIC.

I TRULY BELIEVE THIS IS THE MOST
IMPORTANT ELECTION IN OUR

LIFETIME.

AND WHEN WE HAVE DONALD TRUMP
SITTING IN THE WHITE HOUSE WHILE

HIS BOY, BILL BARR, AS ATTORNEY
GENERAL, BUT REALLY WHAT HE IS,

IS THE PRESIDENT'S PERSONAL
LAWYER, IS IN THE SUPREME COURT

TRYING TO GET RID OF THE
AFFORDABLE CARE ACT IN THE

MIDDLE OF A PANDEMIC, A PUBLIC
HEALTH CRISIS, AND THEY'RE

TRYING TO GET RID OF AN
INITIATIVE, THE AFFORDABLE CARE

ACT, THAT BROUGHT HEALTHCARE TO
30 MILLION PEOPLE.

JUSTICE IS ON THE BALLOT IN
2020, AND SAYING GOODBYE TO

DONALD TRUMP AND, YOU KNOW, GO
BACK TO TRUMP TOWER HAS TO BE AN

IMPERATIVE OF ALL OF US.

WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT WE
NEED TO DO ABOUT ADDRESSING THIS

PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS AND
EMBRACING SCIENTISTS SPEAKING

TRUTH, AND DEDICATING OURSELVES
NOT JUST TO TREATMENT BUT

GETTING PEOPLE BACK TO WORK, AND
NOT JUST PEOPLE IN PUBLICLY

TRADED COMPANIES BUT THE
SMALL-BUSINESS OWNERS, WE KNOW

WE NEED A NEW LEADER IN OUR
COUNTRY.

AND I COULD GO ON AND ON DOWN
THE LIST OF WHY THIS IS PROBABLY

THE MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION IN
OUR LIFETIME.

>> Stephen: WOMAN, FROM AN
OUTSIDER WHO DOESN'T REALLY KNOW

BOTH OF YOU VERY WELL, YOUR
RELATIONSHIP, WHICH SEEMS LIKE A

GOOD ONE NOW, REALLY DOES BRING
HOME THE-- THE OLD PHRASE

"POLITICS MAKES FOR STRANGE--
LET'S SAY PARTNERSHIP."

BECAUSE IN THOSE DEBATES, YOU
LANDED HAYMAKERS ON JOE BIDEN.

I MEAN, THEY WERE HIS-- HIS
TEETH WERE LIKE CHICKLETS ALL

OVER THE STAGE.

AND NOW, I BELIEVE YOU THAT
YOU'RE FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF HIM.

HOW DOES THAT TRANSITION HAPPEN?

HOW DO YOU GO FROM BEING SUCH A
PASSIONATE OPPONENT ON SUCH

BEDROCK PRINCIPLES FOR YOU, AND
NOW, YOU GUYS SEEM TO BE PALS?

>> IT WAS A DEBATE!

>> Stephen: NOT EVERYBODY
LANDED PUNCHES LIKE YOU DID,

THOUGH.

>> IT WAS A DEBATE!

>> Stephen: SO YOU DON'T MEAN
IT.

>> IT WAS A DEBATE.

THE WHOLE REASON-- LITERALLY, IT
WAS A DEBATE.

IT WAS CALLED A "DEBATE."

>> Stephen: I UNDERSTAND.

>> AND THERE WERE JOURNALISTS
THERE COVERING THE DEBATE WHERE

THERE WOULD BE A DEBATE OF
DIFFERENCES OF OPINION AND

ISSUES.

>> Stephen: OKAY.

>> I AM 1,000% SUPPORTIVE OF JOE
BIDEN, AND I WILL, AGAIN, DO

EVERYTHING I CAN TO MAKE SURE HE
IS ELECTED.

>> Stephen: AND I-- AND I 100%
BELIEVE YOU.

I WAS JUST ASKING THE TRANSITION
AFTER THE DEBATE, PERHAPS BACK

TO THE HANDSHAKING.

>> I MEAN, IN ALL SERIOUSNESS,
I'VE KNOWN JOE A LONG TIME, AND

I CARE-- I CARE ABOUT HIM
DEEPLY.

AND AS YOU KNOW, WE ALL HAVE
FAMILY MEMBERS OR FRIENDS WITH

WHOM WE HAVE DISAGREEMENTS.

THAT DOESN'T OVERCOME, OR
OVERSHADOW THE COMMONALITY

BETWEEN US AND THE CONNECTIONS
BETWEEN US.

>> Stephen: WELL, SPEAKING OF
DEBATES, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GET

ON STAGE AND DEBATE MIKE PENCE?

I WOULD-- I'D BUY A TICKET TO
THAT.

>> WE'LL JUST ONE DAY AT A TIME.

RIGHT NOW I'M DEBATING MY
REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES ON OUR

BILL.

SO THAT'S WHERE I AM TODAY.

>> Stephen: GOOD LUCK.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Stephen: THANK YOU,
SENATOR, FOR BEING HERE.

>> THANK YOU, GOOD TO BE WITH
YOU.

>> Stephen: SENATOR KAMALA
HARRIS, EVERYBODY!

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH A
PERFORMANCE BY MILKY CHANCE AND

JACK JOHNSON.

STICK AROUND
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>> AND NOW WHAT IF RABBITS BRED
AT THE RATE THAT TUCKER CARLSON

SAID SOMETHING RACIST.

>> BLACK LIVES MATTER IS FAR
MORE AMBITIOUS THAN THAT.

IT IS WORKING TO REMAKE THE
COUNTRY AND THEN TO CONTROL IT.

IT IS SINGLE-HANDEDLY REVISED
OUR MORAL FRAMEWORK.

CONSIDER SOME OF THE OTHER
POSITIONS BLACK LIVES MATTER HAS

ENDORSED: THE REPEAL OF ALL
IMMIGRATION RESTRICTIONS, THE

LEGALIZATION OF SEX WORK,
PROSTITUTION.

THE DESTRUCTION OF THE NUCLEAR
FAMILY, YOUR FAMILY.

THE FORCED REALTERCATION OF
FARMLAND.

BLACK LIVES MATTER BELIEVES IN
FORCE.

THEY FLOOD THE STREETS WITH
ANGRY YOUNG PEOPLE WHO BREAK

THINGS AND THEY HURT ANYONE WHO
GETS IN THE WAY.

WHEN THEY WANT SOMETHING THEY
TAKE IT.

MAKE THEM MAD, AND THEY WILL SET
YOUR BUSINESS ON FIRE.

ANNOY THEM AND THEY WILL OCCUPY
YOUR DOWNTOWN AND DECLARE A

BRAND NEW COUNTRY.

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>> Stephen: WELCOME BACK.

PERFORMING THEIR SONG, "DON'T
LET ME DOWN," PLEASE WELCOME,

MILKY CHANCE AND JACK
JOHNSON.

♪ ♪ ♪
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♪ ♪ ♪
♪ I SEEN HER EYES AND YET

SHE GOT ME SHININ'
♪ OH, SHE REALLY DID

LIKE NO ONE EVER DID
♪ I'VE SEEN 'EM FALL AND YET

SHE MADE THE CALL
♪ AND SO MUCH IN MY DREAM

YOU NEVER CAN REDEEM
♪ JUST DIE A LITTLE BIT

OH, FLY A LITTLE
♪ FOREVER LEAVIN' GROUND

AMAZEMENT ALL AROUND
♪ PLEASE HIM, PLEASE HIM

WHEN YOU LEAVE HIM
♪ JUST DON'T LET ME DOWN

I'M BEGGING YOU
♪ JUST DON'T LET ME DOWN

I'M BEGGING YOU
♪ I'M DREAMIN' OF A DREAM

THAT IS NEVER GONNA END
♪ OH, YOU GOTTA SEE IT

IT'LL TREAT YOU RIGHT
♪ JUST DON'T LET ME DOWN

HEAVENLY
♪ I SEEN YOUR WINGS

WHEN THEY'RE WORKIN'
♪ WHEN THEY'RE OPEN

WHEN THEY TAKE YOU OUT
♪ WHAT THEY BRING BACK HOME

AND I SEEN THIS PLACE
♪ WHEN IT'S FULL OF ALL

THE LIGHT THAT COMES IN
♪ BETWEEN THE MOMENTS

EVEN IF THEY'RE BROKEN
♪ AND I WAS CRAWLING WITH

THOUGHTS FALLIN' OF PIECES
♪ OF THINGS THAT WE BELIEVE

WHO ARE WE TO DREAM?

♪ THE WIND WAS BLOWIN'
IT'S MADE ITSELF AT HOME

♪ BUT IT'S LEAVIN'
AND YOU'RE LEAVIN'

♪ JUST DON'T LET ME DOWN
I'M BEGGING YOU

♪ I'M BEGGING YOU
JUST DON'T LET ME DOWN

♪ I'M BEGGING YOU, BEGGING YOU
I'M DREAMIN' OF A DREAM

♪ THAT IS NEVER GONNA END
OH, YOU GOTTA SEE IT

♪ IT'LL TREAT YOU RIGHT
TREAT YOU RIGHT

♪ JUST DON'T LET ME DOWN
HEAVENLY

♪ THERE COMES A DAY
THAT I'M LEAVIN'

♪ OH, I'M BEGGING YOU
DON'T LET ME DOWN

♪ DON'T LET ME DOWN
TREAT ME RIGHT

♪ TREAT ME RIGHT
HEAVENLY

♪ JUST DON'T LET ME DOWN
I'M BEGGING YOU

♪ I'M BEGGING YOU
JUST DON'T LET ME DOWN

♪ I'M BEGGING YOU, BEGGING YOU
I'M DREAMIN' OF A DREAM

♪ THAT IS NEVER GONNA END
OH, YOU GOTTA SEE IT

♪ IT'LL TREAT YOU RIGHT
♪ JUST DON'T LET ME DOWN

HEAVENLY ♪
>> Stephen: THANK YOU MILKY

CHANCE AND JACK JOHNSON.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

>> Stephen: THAT'S IT FOR "A
LATE SHOW," EVERYBODY.

TUNE IN TOMORROW WHEN MY GUESTS
WILL BE PRESIDENT OF THE

N.A.A.C.P. LEGAL DEFENSE FUND,
SHERRILYN IFILL, AND COMEDIAN

MIKE BIRBIGLIA.

now STICK AROUND FOR JAMES
CORDEN, BUT FIRST, LET'S SAY

GOOD NIGHT WITH SOME MUSIC FROM
JON BATISTE AND STAY HUMAN.

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