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>> Announcer: TONIGHT, JOIN JIMMY AND HIS GUESTS ‐

SEAN PENN, DR. ROBIN DiANGELO

MUSICAL GUEST WEEZER AND THE LEGENDARY ROOTS CREW

IT'S THE "TONIGHT SHOW: AT HOME EDITION.

AND NOW, HERE'S JIMMY. >> Jimmy: HEY EVERYBODY.

WELCOME TO THE "TONIGHT SHOW." THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WATCHING

ME I APPRECIATE THIS.

WE HAVE A GREAT SHOW TONIGHT SEAN PENN IS ON THE SHOW

TONIGHT. JUST AMAZING THAT GUY, MAN, AND

WHAT HE'S DOING. C.O.R.E. IS HIS NONPROFIT

ORGANIZATION THAT HE'S PUT TOGETHER

THIS IS TEN YEARS AGO, BUT BASICALLY TO GIVE FREE

CORONAVIRUS TESTING IN PLACES WHERE IT'S HARD TO GET TESTED.

AND HE'S JUST AMAZING. ALSO WE HAVE

DR. ROBIN DiANGELO, AUTHOR OF THE BOOK "WHITE FRAGILITY," AND

NEW MUSIC FROM WEEZER FROM THEIR ALBUM "VAN WEEZER.

WEEZER'S HERE. THAT'S A SHOW RIGHT THERE.

BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR WATCHING

LET'S GET TO SOME JOKES HERE WELL, GUYS, ACROSS THE COUNTRY,

CORONAVIRUS IS ON THE RISE

BUT LUCKILY, THE PRESIDENT IS LASER FOCUSED ON THE TASK AT HAND

>> THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION GOING TO COURT TO BLOCK

PUBLICATION OF FORMER NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER JOHN BOLTON'S

TELL‐ALL MEMOIR. THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT CLAIMING

IT'S FULL OF CLASSIFIED INFORMATION THAT WILL HARM

NATIONAL SECURITY. >> Jimmy: YEP, 'CAUSE IF YOU

WANT TO STOP PEOPLE FROM READING A BOOK, THE BEST THING

TO DO ABOUT IT IS SHOUT, "HEY, EVERYBODY!

DON'T READ THIS BOOK DON'T PREORDER IT EITHER."

IF THE LAWSUIT FAILS, TRUMP HAS A BACKUP PLAN.

HE'S GOING TO BUILD A CHAIN LINK FENCE AROUND EVERY BARNES

& NOBLE. CAN WE SEE JOHN BOLTON

I THINK WE HAVE AN EARLY COVER OF THE BOOK.

REPUBLICANS ARE MAD AT BOLTON FOR WRITING A BOOK THAT'S

CRITICAL OF TRUMP. DEMOCRATS ARE MAD THAT HE

DIDN'T COME OUT WITH ALL OF THIS DURING THE IMPEACHMENT

TRIAL. THAT'S WHY THE BLURB ON THE

BACK JUST SAYS, "NO ONE IS HAPPY ABOUT THIS

EVERYONE." MEMOIR IS TITLED "THE ROOM

WHERE IT HAPPENED. DON'T CONFUSE THAT WITH THE

OTHER ANTI‐TRUMP BOOK "THE RAMP WHERE IT HOBBLED."

YOU CAN TELL BOLTON IS ENJOYING MESSING WITH TRUMP

LOOK HOW HE PROMOTED HIS BOOK TODAY.

MEANWHILE, TRUMP MIGHT ALSO SUE HIS NIECE FOR THE TELL‐ALL BOOK

SHE'S WRITING. AT THIS POINT TRUMP'S SUED MORE

BOOKS THAN HE'S READ APPARENTLY BOLTON'S BOOK HAS

SOME PRETTY SHOCKING REVELATIONS.

THE BOOK BASICALLY SAYS TRUMP OBSTRUCTED JUSTICE, DID FAVORS

FOR DICTATORS, AND WAS CLUELESS ABOUT BASIC GEOGRAPHY.

AT ONE POINT, BOLTON SAYS TRUMP ASKED IF FINLAND WAS PART OF

RUSSIA THEN TRUMP CORRECTED HIMSELF

AND SAID, "NEVER MIND, I KNOW IT'S PART OF FINLANDIA."

"GREAT CHEESE, EXCELLENT BUTTER."

YEP, BOLTON SAID HE KNEW HE HAD A DUTY TO TELL AMERICANS THE

TRUTH ‐‐ ONCE THE CHECK CLEARED FOR HIS

BOOK ADVANCE WELL, GUYS, AS I MENTIONED,

CORONAVIRUS CASES ARE ON THE RISE AGAIN, WHICH MAKES THIS NEWS EVEN MORE SURPRISING.

A NEW INTERVIEW THAT HE HAS NOT TALKED TO PRESIDENT TRUMP IN

TWO WEEKS. >> Jimmy: YEAH, FAUCI WAS LIKE,

"BUT WITH A LITTLE BIT OF LUCK, I THINK WE CAN MAKE IT A FULL

MONTH. MEAWHILE, DON JUNIOR WAS LIKE,

"PSH, TWO WEEKS? CALL ME WHEN YOU HIT TWO

YEARS. IN ANOTHER INTERVIEW, FAUCI WAS

ASKED IF HE WOULD ATTEND TRUMP'S RALLY ON SATURDAY, AND HERE'S WHAT HE HAD TO SAY.

>> HE TOLD "THE DAILY BEAST" HE WOULD NOT ATTEND THE RALLY,

SAYING, QUOTE, THAT "I'M IN A HIGH RISK CATEGORY

PERSONALLY I WOULD NOT OF COURSE NOT.

>> Jimmy: YEAH, FAUCI DOESN'T THINK ATTENDING THE RALLY IS A

A GOOD IDEA. HE WAS LIKE, "HOW DO I PUT

THIS I'D RATHER MAKE OUT WITH A

A PUBLIC WATER FOUNTAIN. I'D RATHER WEAR A FACE MASK I

FOUND ON THE FLOOR OF PENN STATION.

I'D RATHER EAT MY BREAKFAST DIRECTLY OFF THE TABLE AT

DENNY'S. I'D RATHER LICK A STARBUCKS

BATHROOM DOORKNOB. OKAY, WE GET IT, BUDDY

THAT'S RIGHT PEOPLE ARE SHOCKED THAT TRUMP

HADN'T SPOKEN TO HIS LEADING EXPERT, DR. FAUCI, IN TWO

WEEKS. IT SEEMS LIKE THEIR

RELATIONSHIP MIGHT BE HITTING A BOILING POINT, ESPECIALLY

BASED ON THESE VOICEMAILS DR. FAUCI HAS BEEN LEAVING TRUMP.

[ BEEP ] >> HELLO, DONALD, IT'S

DR. FAUCI, FROM THE PANDEMIC WE GOT A LOT TO DISCUSS THIS

WEEK CASES ARE SPIKING, SHUTDOWNS

ARE LIFTING, SO JUST GIVE ME A A CALL

OR, YOU KNOW, COUGH THREE TIMES AND I'LL APPEAR.

ALL RIGHT, BYE‐BYE [ BEEP ]

HI, DONALD, ME AGAIN SO, UH, THE SECOND WAVE'S HERE,

AND I JUST SAW YOU ON TV ‐‐ MASKLESS, BODY GRINDING ON AN

AMERICAN FLAG. THIS IS MY NIGHTMARE, DONALD

THIS AND GETTING SWOOPED UP BY A HAWK

JUST GIVE ME A CALL. OKAY, BYE‐BYE.

[ BEEP ] YOU'RE MAKING ME FEEL CRAZY

HERE, DONALD IS IT ME

IS IT SOMETHING I DID? I KNEW I SHOULDN'T HAVE WORN

GLASSES AROUND YOU, I LOOK TOO SMART.

LOOK, IS THERE ANOTHER DOCTOR? [ BEEP ]

ALL RIGHT, SO YOU'S NOT JUST GOING TO ANSWER ME

OKAY, THAT'S FINE. I DON'T NEED YOU

I'M LIKE EDEMA VIRUS IN SUBZERO TEMPERATURES, OKAY

I WILL SURVIVE AHEM

SORRY ABOUT THAT TALK SOON, LOVE YOU.

"LOVE YOU" WHY DID I SAY THAT

[ BEEP ] >> Jimmy: WELL, IF TRUMP ISN'T

TAKING SOCIAL DISTANCING PROTOCOLS SERIOUSLY, AT LEAST SOME PEOPLE ARE.

>> NATHAN'S FAMOUS ANNOUNCING THAT IT'S GOING TO BE HOLDING

THAT INTERNATIONAL HOT DOG EATING CONTEST

THIS YEAR, THOUGH, DUE TO THE CORONAVIRUS, YOU WON'T HAVE

THOSE ‐‐ THOSE CHEERING CROWDS >> Jimmy: YEAH, I THINK IT'S

SMART THAT THERE WON'T BE A CROWD.

NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO TELL THEIR LOVED ONES THEY CAUGHT

CORONAVIRUS AT A HOT DOG EATING CONTEST.

NO ONE I'M ACTUALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE

COMPETITION, BECAUSE IT'LL BE FUN WATCHING PEOPLE EAT HOT

DOGS THROUGH THE SIDES OF THEIR FACE MASK.

SOME MORE BUSINESS NEWS. AFTER YEARS OF PUBLIC PRESSURE

AND CRITICISM, QUAKER OATS HAS

DECIDED TO PART WITH ONE OF THEIR MOST FAMOUS BRANDS CHECK THIS OUT

BRAND OF BREAKFAST FOODS IS ACKNOWLEDGING ITS ORIGINS ARE

BASED ON A RACIAL STEREOTYPE, AND IT'S GOING AWAY FOR GOOD

WASHINGTON REDSKINS WERE LIKE, "DON'T LOOK UP, DON'T LOOK UP.

THEY CAN'T SEE US IF THEY DON'T LOOK UP.

CRAP, THEY SAW US. WHEN THE NEWS BROKE, TRUMP WAS

BUMMED BECAUSE AUNT JEMIMA WAS THE ONLY BLACK WOMAN IN HIS

CABINET. [ LIGHT LAUGHTER ]

YEP, LOTS OF FOOD MASCOTS ARE HAPPY ABOUT THE DECISION

WHEN ASKED ABOUT IT, TONY THE TIGER WAS LIKE, "THEEEEY'RE

RACIST!" EVERYONE IS STILL TALKING ABOUT

TED CRUZ'S TWEET WHERE HE CHALLENGED ACTOR RON PERLMAN TO

A WRESTLING MATCH ‐‐ BUT NOT WITH HIMSELF

TED WANTS PERLMAN TO WRESTLE CONGRESSMAN JIM JORDAN

IT SEEMS PRETTY WILD THAT CRUZ IS CHALLENGING ACTORS TO FIGHT

OTHER POLITICIANS, BUT HE'S NOT

BACKING DOWN IN FACT, HE JUST RELEASED THIS VIDEO STATEMENT.

>> HI, I'M TED CRUZ, THE SENATE'S WETTEST‐LOOKING MAN

I RECENTLY TWEETED AT RON PERLMAN.

"LISTEN, HELLBOY YOU TALK A GOOD GAME WHEN

YOU'VE GOT HOLLYWOOD MAKEUP AND STUNTMEN, BUT I'LL BET 10K YOU

COULDN'T LAST FIVE MINUTES IN THE WRESTLING RING WITH

JIM JORDAN WITHOUT GETTING PINNED."

WELL, I'M JUST GETTING STARTED, HOLLYWOOD.

♪ OPEN YOUR YEARS, TERMINATOR 2.

I KNOW YOU SEEM TOUGH WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR BIG BOY SUNGLASSES

AND YOUR MOVIE MAGIC METAL FACE

BUT HOW ABOUT YOU COME ON IN TO MY BACKYARD AND SEE IF YOU CAN

SUPLEX MITCH McCONNELL I HAVE TWO MARIE CALLENDER GIFT

CARDS THAT SAYS YOU CAN'T. PEEP THIS, EITHER HOBBS OR

SHAW YOU MAY SEEM TOUGH AS NAILS

WITH YOUR TUMMY FULL OF HOLLYWOOD FRAPPUCCINOS

BUT ALL THE STARBUCKS IN THE WORLD AIN'T GONNA HELP YOU WHEN

I MAKE YOU BARE KNUCKLE MITT ROMNEY AND HIS FIVE ADULT

SONS I GOT TWO SAND DOLLARS AND A

A BAG FULL OF MULCH THAT SAYS YOU DON'T STAND A CHANCE

CHECK THIS, MACHETE. I KNOW YOU SPENT SOME TIME IN

PRISON BACK IN THE DAY, BUT MY BOY TOM COTTON WENT SOMEWHERE

WAY WORSE ‐‐ HARVARD.

AND I'LL BET YOU HALF A TUBE OF PRINGLES AND THREE SOY SAUCE

PACKETS HE'S GONNA BE GIVING YOU THE BUSINESS WITH THAT LONG

POOL NOODLE BODY OF HIS. SO GET READY, HOLLYWOOD,

BECAUSE YOU'RE ABOUT TO FACE OFF AGAINST THE TOUGHEST GUYS

YET ‐‐ REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS WHO AREN'T

ME PLEASE DON'T HIT ME!

>> Jimmy: AND FINALLY, ACCORDING TO AN ONLINE

CONSPIRACY THEORY, AN ALTERNATE READING OF THE MAYAN CALENDAR

SUGGESTS THAT THE END OF THE WORLD, INITIALLY PREDICTED FOR

2012, COULD STILL YET HAPPEN

HERE TO DISCUSS, WE HAVE NOTED ONLINE CONSPIRACY THEORIST HARLAN FARRAGUT.

>> GREETINGS, JIMMY. >> Jimmy: SO HARLAN, WHAT CAN

YOU TELL US ABOUT THIS NEW END OF THE WORLD THEORY?

>> OKAY, JIMMY, PREPARE TO GO THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS WITH

ME BECAUSE THE REAL MAYAN

APOCALYPSE IS ACTUALLY GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT WEEK

NOW, BEFORE YOU CALL ME A PARANOID NUTCASE AND HAVE THE

WHITE COATS CART ME AWAY IN A STRAITJACKET, I WANT YOU ‐

>> Jimmy: I WOULDN'T DO THAT WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON IN THE

WORLD TODAY, IT DOES KIND OF FEEL LIKE THE END OF THE WORLD

>> WAIT, WHAT? >> Jimmy: I SAID, IT DOES KIND

OF FEEL LIKE THE END OF THE WORLD RIGHT NOW.

>> I'M SORRY, MAN, I'M JUST NOT USED TO PEOPLE TAKING ME

SERIOUSLY. UM, OKAY, WAIT, WHERE WAS I?

ACCORDING TO ANCIENT MESOAMERICAN PLANETARY

ALIGNMENT, WE ARE FACING IMMINENT DOOM.

NOW, MOST PEOPLE REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THIS, BUT ‐‐

>> Jimmy: ACTUALLY, THE OPPOSITE

A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE A SENSE OF DOOM RIGHT NOW

>> YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, BUT I'M CRAZIER THAN THEM.

SEE, I'M ‐‐ I'M TWISTED, MAN I'M DIFFERENT!

I NOTICE THINGS. HAVE YOU LOOKED OUTSIDE LATELY

THE WORLD WE'RE LIVING IN IS ‐‐ IS TOTALL ‐‐

>> Jimmy: BLEAK. >> YES, AND ‐‐ AND IF YOU ‐‐

>> Jimmy: SOMBER >> YEAH, BUT ‐

>> Jimmy: GRIM >> STOP IT

SEE, YOU'RE DOING MY THING SEE, IT'S MY THING TO POINT OUT

HOW THIS IS THE END OF DAYS. HOW COME EVERYONE'S DOING MY

THING? IT'S LIKE, YOU'RE LIKE THE

MR. HAPPY GUY, AND EVEN YOU'RE DOING MY THING

>> Jimmy: I WAS JUST AGREEING WITH YOU

>> I DON'T WANT YOU TO AGREE THIS PLANET IS HURTLING TOWARD

A CATACLYSM! >> Jimmy: AGREED

>> NO! SHUT UP!

LOOK I'M TALKING SARAH CONNOR AT THE

PLAYGROUND IN "TERMINATOR 2. FIREBALLS AND SKELETONS, AND

METAL EXOSKELETONS STOMPING ON THOSE SKELETONS.

HARD "R" STUFF >> Jimmy: SOUNDS HARSH, BUT

COULD HAPPEN >> NO!

JIMMY, STOP BELIEVING ME I'M THE CRAZY CONSPIRACY GUY NO

ONE BELIEVES THAT'S MY SCHTICK, OKAY?

SERIOUSLY! IF I DON'T HAVE THAT, I DON'T

EVEN KNOW WHO I AM >> Jimmy: OKAY, ALL RIGHT,

SORRY. LOOK, WHY DON'T YOU JUST TELL

ME YOUR CRAZIEST APOCALYPSE THEORY

>> WELL, ACCORDING TO MY RESEARCH, IT'S POSSIBLE ‐‐ NOT

CONFIRMED, BUT POSSIBLE ‐‐ THAT THROUGH A PORTAL TO THE

NETHERWORLD, WE COULD BE ATTACKED ‐‐ BY DRAGONS

>> Jimmy: WOW, SO CRAZY. >> SEE, NOW YOU'RE PATRONIZING

ME >> Jimmy: I'M NOT PATRONIZING

YOU. >> YEAH, YOU ARE

YOU'RE SORT OF PUTTING IT ON FOR MY BENEFIT

YOU KNOW WHAT? I GOTTA GO, MAN.

I HAVE A HAIRCUT APPOINTMENT >> Jimmy: WAIT

A HAIRCUT? YOU SURE YOU WANT TO DO THAT

SEEMS CRAZY TO GO TO A SALON RIGHT NOW.

>> AH, YOU THINK I'M CRAZY HA

I STILL GOT IT >> Jimmy: HARLAN FARRAGUT,

EVERYBODY. AND THAT'S OUR MONOLOGUE,

EVERYBODY. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH "WHAT

ARE YOU DOING WEDNESDAYS?" THERE'S A "GO ON, GIT!

THER'S SEAN PENN THERE'S A LOT TO LOOK FORWARD

TO COME ON BACK

MORE "TONIGHT SHOW," EVERYBODY ♪

>> Jimmy: WELCOME BACK, EVERYBODY.

WELL, IT'S WEDNESDAY AND WE DO THIS SEGMENT ON OUR

SHOW CALLED, "WHAT ARE YOU DOING WEDNESDAYS?" WHERE WE TRY

TO SHOW YOU UPLIFTING VIDEOS THAT YOU'VE TAKEN FROM AROUND

THE COUNTRY, AROUND THE GLOBE, ACTUALLY, JUST THING THAT ARE

HEARTWARMING OR THINGS THAT JUST MAKE US LAUGH

SO, THIS FIRST ONE IS SO CUTE AND SO COOL.

IT IS A, SEATTLE MOM TOOK A WALK OUTSIDE BECAUSE SHE WAS

FEELING DOWN, AND SHE CAME ACROSS SOMETHING THAT BRIGHTENED HER DAY

LOOK AT THIS [ CHILDREN SINGING ]

>> Jimmy: ISN'T THAT AMAZING NEXT UP, THIS IS BIZARRE, THIS

ONE, @PVMAL CAME ACROSS A DOG WALKING A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY

NEXT TO ITS OWNER ON THE SIDEWALK LOOK AT THIS

I'M TELLING YOU, THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING.

THIS IS THE WAY ALL DOGS ARE GOING TO START WALKING

[ LAUGHTER ] THIS NEXT ONE, I SAW THIS

ONLINE, THIS MOM TOOK THESE VIDEOS OF HER SON, GREY, WHO

JUST LIKES BEING HANDED STUFF. HE LOVES WHEN YOU HAND HIM

SOMETHING. HE'S VERY THANKFUL LOOK AT GREY

>> YEAH. THANK YOU MAMA

THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU >> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MAMA >> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU [ LAUGHTER ]

YOU GOT IT YOU GOT IT

YOU GOT IT NO, YOU DON'T GOT IT

>> Jimmy: I LOVE THAT KID. >> I LOVE HIM ALREADY.

>> Jimmy: THIS LAST ONE IS OH, MY GOSH.

THIS MADE ME LAUGH IT'S FROM @IZZYLAMBO

IZZYLAMBO AND HER MOM TRIES TO GUESS WHAT GRANDPA IS GONNA SAY

WHEN HE CAME HOME. SO, THEY'RE LIKE, "HE'S ABOUT

TO COME HOME WHAT IS HE GOING TO SAY?

"I WAS GONNA SAY, 'HEY, GET ME DRINK. WHAT ARE YOU DOING?'" YOU

KNOW ‐‐ ANYWAYS, THEY PREDICT IT WHAT GRANDPA'S GONNA SAY. CHECK THIS OUT

WHAT MY GRANDFATHER IS GOING TO SAY WHEN HE WALKS IN

GO, MOM. >> "HEY!

I'VE BEEN OUT AN HOUR, I DIDN'T EVEN GET A DRINK."

[ LAUGHTER ] I'M FREAKING EXHAUSTED WITH ALL

THESE STEPS. WHAT IS GOING ON?"

>> HE JUST GOT HERE. AND LET'S SEE WHAT HE SAYS

[ KNOCKING ] >> HOLY CHRIST, WHAT ‐‐ IT'S

LIKE GOING UP TO THE EMPIRE STATE BUILDING

FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. I'M HERE AN HOUR, I DIDN'T GET

A DRINK. [ LAUGHTER ]

WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING? [ LAUGHTER ]

TYPICAL CRAZY. [ LAUGHTER ]

>> Jimmy: THAT IS HILARIOUS. I WANT THEM TO DO MORE OF

THOSE. I WANT OTHER PEOPLE TO DO ‐‐

PREDICTING WHAT THEIR ‐‐ GRANDPAS AND GRANDMAS ARE GOING

TO SAY THAT'S SO GOOD

[ LAUGHTER ] THAT WAS "WHAT ARE YOU DOING

WEDNESDAYS?" GUYS, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU

HAVE TO SAY GOODBYE TO THINGS.

AND I FEEL LIKE I WANT TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW IT'S TIME FOR, "GO ON, GIT!"

GO ON, GIT ♪ ♪

>> Jimmy: GO ON, GIT, COUPLE WHERE ONE PERSON WEARS THE MASK

AND NOT THE OTHER. HOW THE HELL YOU THINK THIS

THING WORK YOU THINK CORONAVIRUS IS GOING

TO LOOK AT YOU AND SAY, "YOU GUYS SEEM LIKE A NICE COUPLE,

SO I'M GONNA LET YOU GUYS PASS."

HELL NO! THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT WORKS.

SO, WHY DON'T YOU GO ON, GIT BUT MAKE SURE IT'S SIX FEET

APART. GIT.

GO ON, GIT, SUPREME COURT JUSTICES WHO VOTED AGAINST

PROTECTING LGBTQ RIGHTS IN THE WORKPLACE.

WELL, IT TAKES A LOT OF GUTS COMING FROM SOMEONE WHO'S GOT

THE ONE JOB IN THE COUNTRY YOU CAN'T GET FIRED FROM

I HEREBY SENTENCE YOU TO TWO COUNTS OF GO ON, AND ONE COUNT,

GIT! GO ON, GIT, THIS NEW HBOs I

DON'T EVEN KNOW IF I HAVE OR NOT.

I'VE BEEN A SUBSCRIBER FOR SO MANY YEARS IT HURTS MY DANG

BRAIN. WHAT DO I EVEN HAVE NOW?

HBO GO HBO MAX?

HBO REGULAR? HBO YES?

HBO NO HBO MAYBE?

HOW ABOUT THIS ONE, THIS IS A GOOD IDEA, HB‐GO ON, GIT

GO ON, GIT, DONALD TRUMP DOWNPLAYING THE CORONAVIRUS.

DON'T YOU SEE? THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE GLOBAL

PANDEMIC WANTS US TO DO. LAY LOW, AND THEN GIT US WHEN

WE'RE LEAST EXPECTING IT IT'S LIKE THE GUY IN A SCARY

MOVIE THAT'S LIKE "OH, DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT NOISE, IT'S

PROBABLY NOTHING." AND THEN HE PULLS OFF HIS

GLOVE, BUT HE GOT A LOBSTER CLAW WHERE THE HAND OUGHT' TO

BE AND IT'S OLE' LOBSTER CLAW

COMING BACK FOR HIS MIDNIGHT SNACK.

THAT REMINDS ME, I'VE GOT A GREAT IDEA FOR A SCARY MOVIE

IT'S CALLED "GO ON, GIT! GIT!

GO ON, GIT, TRYING TO GET THE REST OF THE PEANUT BUTTER

THAT'S STUCK AT THE BOTTOM OF THE JAR.

IT'S DANG NEAR IMPOSSIBLE. HERE'S AN IDEA, AND BECAUSE I'M

A NICE GUY I'M GOING TO GIVE IT TO YOU FOR FREE.

PUT A LID ON THE BOTTOM OF THE JAR, TOO

BINGO! PROBLEM SOLVED, YOU PETER PAN

LOVING DING BATS NOW, GIT

GO ON, GIT GO ON, GIT, AUTOTUNE

♪ YOU MAKE EVERYONE SOUND LIKE A ROBOT AND

IT'S GOT TO STOP ♪ SO GIT

[ SIGHS GIT!

GO ON, GIT, 2020 WE KNOW WE AIN'T EVEN AT

HALFTIME, BUT WITH ALL THAT'S HAPPENED SO FAR, I THINK IT'S

BEST WE CALL AN AUDIBLE. GET OFF THE FIELD AND HIT THE

SHOWERS. OR TO PUT IT ANOTHER WAY, CLEAR

EYES, FULL HEARTS, GO ON, GIT! ♪

AH, [ BLEEP ] ME GIT!

♪ >> Jimmy: THAT WAS "GO ON,

GIT! WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH

SEAN PENN, EVERYBODY STAY TUNED

♪ >> Jimmy: EARLIER TODAY, I GOT

TO CHAT WITH SEAN PENN HE'S OBVIOUSLY AN AMAZING ACTOR

BUT ALSO AN AMAZING HUMANITARIAN HERE IS MY CHAT WITH SEAN PENN

SO MUCH FOR JOINING ME I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS

>> BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. >> Jimmy: I HAVE TO SAY, IT'S

BEYOND FOR ME TO INTERVIEW YOU NOT JUST YOUR ACTING, YOUR, YOU

KNOW ‐‐ OR ACTOR SEAN PENN, BUT YOU'RE LIKE A MYTHICAL

CREATURE YOU'RE LIKE SOMEONE THAT I

HONESTLY ‐‐ IT'S LIKE INTERVIEWING AN ACTUAL, REAL

LIFE SUPERHERO CAN YOU IMAGINE WHEN THE

SEAN PENN MOVIE COMES OUT WHAT A GREAT MOVIE IT'S GOING TO BE

AND PLEASE TELL ME SOMEONE'S WRITING THE BOOK

PLEASE >> WELL, IF THEY'RE WRITING THE

BOOK, I HOPE THEY'RE WRITING THE TRUE STORY, WHICH IS THAT

ANY ONE OF US WITH A CREW OF VOLUNTEERS AND STAFF LIKE I'VE

GOT WOULD BE ACHIEVING, YOU KNOW, QUITE A BIT IN THE WORK

THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING. AND I'VE BEEN JUST SO ‐‐ YOU

KNOW, I GOT A LOT OF SUPERHEROES WORKING WITH ME.

>> Jimmy: YOUR NONPROFIT, C.O.R.E.

IT FEELS LIKE EVERY MAJOR AWFUL DISASTER THAT HAPPENS,

C.O.R.E. IS THERE IN SOME WAY OR ANOTHER TO HELP

WHEN DID YOU DECIDE, OH, WE COULD DO SOMETHING RIGHT NOW FOR THIS ‐‐ THIS PANDEMIC?

>> I HAD THIS INFRASTRUCTURE AVAILABLE.

I HAD, YOU KNOW, AN INITIAL C.O.R.E. READY IN LOS ANGELES

TO RESPOND TO SOMETHING MUCH SMALLER.

SO WHAT WE DID IS, I JUST FELT, WELL, I'LL ASK THE GOVERNOR HOW

CAN WE HELP. AND IT WAS HE ‐‐ GOVERNOR

NEWSOM WHO LED US TO ‐‐. >> Jimmy: GAVIN NEWSOM

YEAH >> TO MAYOR GARCETTI IN

LOS ANGELES. AND THE LOS ANGELES FIRE

DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES HAD ALREADY SET UP

SEVERAL OF THESE SITES, THE INITIAL TESTING SITES.

BUT THEY WERE POPULATED BY FIREFIGHTERS, WHICH MEANT THAT

THOSE FIREFIGHTERS WOULD NOT BE AVAILABLE TO DO WHAT WOULD BE

THEIR TRADITIONAL DUTIES YOU HAD 20 TO 25 FIREFIGHTERS

PER SITE OPERATING THE SITES AND THEY WERE ‐‐ THE SKILL SET

ON THE TESTING LANE IS NOT COMPLICATED.

SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET OUR PEOPLE TRAINED UP.

AND NOW THE SITES ARE MANNED BY BETWEEN

25 AND 70 C.O.R.E. STAFF AT EACH SITE.

AND WE THEN WERE ABLE TO GO TO THE GOVERNOR AGAIN, EXPAND OUT

THROUGH CALIFORNIA AND AT THAT POINT WE HAD A

A MODEL. SO, WE'RE NOW IN SEVERAL AREAS

FROM NAVAHO NATION, NEW ORLEANS, ATLANTA, CHICAGO,

DETROIT, NEW YORK. AND NOW JUST STARTED OUR MOBILE

TESTING FOR PROTESTERS IN WASHINGTON, D. C.

BECAUSE I'M VERY PRO TEST AND PRO‐PROTEST.

[ LIGHT LAUGHTER ] BECAUSE WE'VE PICKED OUR LANE,

WHICH IS TESTING WE THINK IT'S KIND OF A SACRED

DUTY TO OFFER TESTING TO THOSE WHOSE LANE IT IS TO DEFEND THE

REPUBLIC AND WITHOUT THOSE PROTESTERS

WE'D HAVE REMAINED IN A STASIS THAT WOULD HAVE KILLED THIS

COUNTRY FOR SURE AND NOW I THINK WE GOT A

A CHANCE >> Jimmy: HAVE YOU ALWAYS BEEN

AN ACTIVIST? AND IF SO, WHERE DID YOU GET IT

FROM OR WHAT INSPIRED YOU TO TAKE

THIS ROLE? >> WELL I HAD ‐‐ MY FATHER WAS

A VERY, VERY PATRIOTIC MAN WHO'D SERVED HIS COUNTRY, AND

FLOWN LOW ALTITUDE BOMBING MISSIONS WAY BEYOND THAT WHERE

IT BECAME VOLUNTARY TO DO IT, BECAUSE THE LIFE EXPECTANCY WAS

LOW. AND THEN CAME BACK AND WAS

BLACKLISTED BY THE COUNTRY THAT HE'D JUST FOUGHT FOR

AND HE WAS VERY CIVIC‐MINDED, NEVER GOT BITTER ABOUT IT.

SOMETHING I ADMIRE A LOT IN HIM, ASPIRE TO IN ME, AND I

THINK THAT INFORMED SOME OF IT AND THEN WHEN I WAS IN A VERY

FORMATIVE MOMENT IN MY LATE TEENS, SOMEONE GAVE ME ‐‐

SOMEONE STARTED PLAYING ME ‐‐ IT WAS MY YOUNGER BROTHER

STARTED PLAYING ME SONGS OF PHIL OCHS.

AND IN PURSUING AN UNDERSTANDING OF PHIL OCHS AND

ALL THAT, IT BECAME A REALLY, REALLY INSPIRING SENSE OF WHAT

OUR ACTUAL INHERENT RESPONSIBILITY IS AS CITIZENS.

BUT I WILL SAY THAT THE BEST OF THE MOVEMENTS RIGHT NOW, I

THINK ARE ‐‐ HAVE THE MOST TANGIBLE ‐‐ ARE THE MOST

TANGIBLE HOPE OF THE FIRST TIME THAT I AS A PARENT WON'T HAVE

THAT WHISPER IN MY EAR SAYING, "IS IT REALLY FAIR TO BRING

CHILDREN IN THIS WORLD NOW?" I WOULD BE THRILLED TO BE A KID

IN THIS WORLD NOW. BECAUSE YOU CAN TAKE ALL YOUR

LACK OF MODERATION AND PUT IT INTO SOMETHING SO PRODUCTIVE IF

YOU DO IT SMARTLY. AND REALLY FIND AT AN EARLY

STAGE OF LIFE THAT REALLY IMPORTANT MOMENT WHERE YOU'VE

JUST GOTTEN TO BE ON YOUR OWN AS A YOUNG ADULT AND FIND THAT

YOUR WORK CAN MATTER AND I THINK ONCE THAT'S IN A

A YOUNG PERSON, IT NEVER LEAVES THEM

AND THEY STAY INVESTED AND IF YOU HAVE A CITIZENRY AS

INVESTED AS THEY ARE NOW, ALONG WITH A LEADERSHIP THAT I CAN

SAY, YOU KNOW ‐‐ YOU KNOW ‐‐ LET'S SAY AT THE VERY LEAST,

THERE'S A VOID OF LEADERSHIP BUT WHEN YOU CONSIDER REAL

LEADERSHIP MIXED WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO HOLD A GREAT

LEADER'S FEET TO THE FIRE WHEN POLICIES GO AWRY, THEN YOU'VE

GOT A COUNTRY. >> Jimmy: MORE WITH SEAN PENN

WHEN WE COME BACK, EVERYBODY

♪ >> Jimmy: HERE'S PART TWO OF MY CONVERSATION WITH SEAN PENN.

>> Jimmy: HEY EVERYBODY, WE'RE BACK WITH SEAN PENN.

C.O.R.E. IS DOING SOMETHING AMAZING TO RAISE MONEY FOR THIS

NONPROFIT. IF YOU GO TO CORERESPONSE.ORG,

YOU CAN FIND OUT HOW TO VOLUNTEER, WHERE TESTING IS,

BUT YOU'RE ALSO GOING TO FIND OUT ABOUT THIS EVENT THAT A LOT

OF PEOPLE WON'T EVEN BELIEVE IT WAS REALLY GONNA HAPPEN.

BUT, YOU'RE GOING TO DO A VIRTUAL TABLE READ OF "FAST

TIMES AT RIDGEMONT HIGH. >> YEAH, THIS WAS FUNNY THING.

OUT OF THE BLUE, RIGHT AT THE MOMENT THAT WE WERE GOING TO

THROW OURSELVES INTO THIS COVID RESPONSE, NOT HAVING ANY IDEA

WHAT LANE WE WERE GOING TO TAKE, OR HOW MUCH IT WAS GOING

TO COST RELATIVE TO EXISTING BUDGET

I HAD ALREADY TAPPED OUT YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE

GOT TWO DOLLARS LEFT IN THE BANK RIGHT NOW WITH EVERYTHING

THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING AND HAPPENING BEFORE THAT.

SO I THOUGHT, WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GET THE DOUGH

WE WEREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO THROW A BIG FUNDRAISER AT THAT

POINT, NOT THE TRADITIONAL SORT

SO, OUT OF THE BLUE, DANE COOK THREW US A CHECK THAT GOT US

STARTED. AND, REALLY GOT US STARTED

>> Jimmy: WOW. DO YOU KNOW DANE

DID YOU KNOW IT WAS ‐‐ >> I DIDN'T KNOW HIM

I'D MET HIM ONCE, BUT HE FOLLOWED WHAT WE WERE DOING

PRIOR TO THIS. AND DANE HAD THIS IDEA TO DO

"FAST TIMES AT RIDGEMONT HIGH" AS A TABLE READING

AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, A LOT OF FANTASTIC ACTORS THAT, YOU

KNOW, I THINK IT WILL BE VERY FUNNY.

WE'RE NOT BEING ‐‐ WE'RE NOT PAYING ANY ATTENTION TO AGE AT

ALL. [ LAUGHTER ]

>> Jimmy: GOOD >> BUT I WON'T BE PLAYING THE

ROLE THAT I PLAYED, WHICH GIVES ME A CHANCE ‐‐ I'LL BE PLAYING

A DIFFERENT ROLE THAT WILL GIVE ME A CHANCE TO

WATCH SOMEBODY ELSE PLAY THAT. AND I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD

TO THAT. >> Jimmy: I HEARD A STORY, AND

YOU CAN TELL ME IF IT'S TRUE OR NOT TRUE, BUT LET ME JUST TELL

YOU WHAT I HEARD IS THAT WHEN YOU AUDITIONED FOR

FAST TIMES, OBVIOUSLY, AMY HECKERLING, GREAT DIRECTOR

CAMERON CROWE, AMAZING WRITER AND DIRECTOR AS WELL

YOU CAME IN FOR THE AUDITION AND I THINK YOU SAID, "I'M NOT

GOING TO AUDITION, I KNOW WHO SPICOLI IS

SO, IF YOU WANT ‐‐ IF YOU WANT TO SEE HIM, YOU HAVE TO HIRE

ME." IS THAT TRUE

>> IT'S MOSTLY TRUE. THE WAY I REMEMBER IT, WAS THAT

I ‐‐ LONG BEFORE I HAD A PENNY IN MY POCKET, HAD A KIND OF

FEELING OF ENTITLEMENT AS AN ACTOR, NOT BECAUSE I THOUGHT I

WAS SO GOOD, BUT BECAUSE I THOUGHT THE REST WERE NOT SO

GOOD AND THAT GAVE ME AN AWFUL LOT

OF CONFIDENCE. AND I READ THIS PART AND I JUST

SAID, "I KNOW THIS THING." BUT THIS WAS TRUE OF ALL

AUDITIONS. I RESENTED EVERY AUDITION, AND

HENCE, I WAS TERRIBLE AT IT AND SELF‐CONSCIOUS

>> Jimmy: IT'S THE WORST >> AND I THOUGHT, I NEED THE

MASK OF IT BEING A JOB TO GET THE MUSIC IN ME AND GO

AND SO, I JUST WANTED THEM TO JUST GIVE IT TO ME, TRUST ME,

DON'T THEY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON INSIDE HERE BY OSMOSIS

AND ‐‐ BUT I AUDITIONED, AND I ‐‐ AND TERRIBLY.

AND FLAT, AND I KNEW I WASN'T WILLING TO HIT THE KIND OF

MUSIC OF THIS CHARACTER THAT I THOUGHT IT WAS

AND WAS ‐‐ HAD FAMILIARITY WITH TOO.

I'D GROWN UP WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE THAT

AND SO, THEY DISMISSED ME AND I LEFT

AND THEN A CASTING DIRECTOR NAMED DON PHILLIPS, CAME ‐‐ WHO

WAS IN THE ROOM AT THE AUDITION, SAW THE TERRIBLE

AUDITION, BUT HE AND I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE CAMERON, I DON'T

REMEMBER EXACTLY, BUT SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM THOUGHT

WHY WOULD WE EVER ASK HIM TO COME BACK?

AND OTHERS WERE STRONG ENOUGH IN THEIR ARGUMENT.

AND DON PHILLIPS CAME RUNNING INTO THE PARKING LOT WHERE MY

BROKEN DOWN MAZDA I BORROWED WAS SITTING AND I WAS JUST

ABOUT TO LEAVE AND HE SAID, "GET BACK IN HERE

AND AUDITION YOUR ASS OFF," SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

HE SAYS, "YOU'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE."

AND I CAME IN, AND AS RESULT OF THAT FAITH, I KIND OF GAVE IT

A LITTLE BIT AND OFF OF THAT, THEY TOOK A

A GAMBLE AND THEN WE HAD A A GREAT TIME MAKING THE MOVIE.

>> Jimmy: AND THE REST IS HISTORY, YEAH.

SO YOU WILL NOT BE PLAYING SPICOLI?

YOU WON'T EVEN HINT OF WHO MIGHT BE, BUT IT'S SOMEONE WE

KNOW >> SOMEONE YOU KNOW AND THERE'S

PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THIS, ALL OF THEM, THEY'RE ALL PEOPLE YOU

KNOW AND IT REALLY ‐‐ IT REALLY

GIVES ME A CHUCKLE I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A SECRET

ABOUT WHO'S IN IT OR NOT, BECAUSE ‐‐ BUT I HAVE TO LEAVE

IT IT'S DANE'S THING.

AND AGAIN, JUST A GIFT TO C.O.R.E.

YOU KNOW, CAUSE THE WHOLE THING IS TO DRIVE SUPPORT TO C.O.R.E.

AND ALL THESE VOLUNTEERS AND I'D LIKE TO JUST GET IN ON

THAT THAT WHEN PEOPLE HEAR ABOUT

C.O.R.E. AND C.O.R.E WORKING IN ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT AREAS,

THE PEOPLE THAT WE ARE HIRING, THEY ARE FROM THE AREA, SERVING

THE MOST MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES IN THIS COUNTRY.

AND THEY, AND WE, REALLY DO NEED SUPPORT

>> Jimmy: EVERYONE WATCHING, GO TO CORERESPONSE.ORG.

WHATEVER YOU CAN GIVE WOULD BE AMAZING.

SEAN PENN, THANK YOU FOR DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING, KEEP DOING.

YOU'RE AN INSPIRATION TO MILLIONS, INCLUDING ME

YOU'RE SO INSPIRING. THANK YOU, BUDDY

>> THANKS FOR GIVING THE TIME. I'M A BIG FAN AND I APPRECIATE

BEING HERE >> Jimmy: ALL RIGHT, BUD

THANK YOU, THANK YOU WHEN WE COME BACK, I HAVE THE

AUTHOR OF "WHITE FRAGILITY," DR. ROBIN DiANGELO

COME ON BACK, EVERYBODY. ♪

>> Jimmy: OUR NEXT GUEST IS THE AUTHOR OF "WHITE FRAGILITY: WHY

IT'S SO HARD FOR WHITE PEOPLE TO TALK ABOUT RACISM." HERE IS DR. ROBIN DiANGELO

>> Jimmy: DR. ROBIN DiANGELO, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THE

"TONIGHT SHOW. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT

I KNOW HOW BUSY YOU ARE, AND EVERYONE WANTS TO TALK TO YOU

RIGHT NOW. SO, THIS MEANS A LOT TO ME

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

>> AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME.

>> Jimmy: YOUR BOOK, "WHITE FRAGILITY: WHY IT'S SO HARD FOR

WHITE PEOPLE TO TALK ABOUT RACISM," THIS CAME OUT IN 2018

>> YES >> Jimmy: AND IT'S BEEN ON THE

BEST‐SELLER LIST EVER SINCE THEN

>> IT HAS, YES >> Jimmy: AND RIGHT NOW IT IS

NUMBER ONE ON ALL THE LISTS I LOOKED AT.

AND IT'S ALSO, FROM WHAT I READ, IT'S SOLD OUT EVERYWHERE

AS WELL. >> AN UNFORTUNATE TIME FOR IT

TO BE SOLD OUT, BUT YES. >> Jimmy: WELL, HERE'S WHAT I

DID, I GOT IT ON KINDLE. >> AH, OKAY.

>> Jimmy: I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW THIS, IT WENT VIRAL ONLINE

A FLIGHT ATTENDANT WAS GREETING PEOPLE ON HER PLANE, AND SOME

GENTLEMAN CAME ON AND HE WAS READING YOUR BOOK, IT OPENED UP

A WHOLE CONVERSATION >> YEAH.

I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY ILLUSTRATES

SEVERAL REALLY IMPORTANT POINTS ABOUT THIS

I MEAN, ON THE ONE HAND, THE STORY WAS SPECIAL BECAUSE

A BLACK WOMAN AND A WHITE MAN HAD ENGAGED CONVERSATION

HE TALKED TO HER WITH HUMILITY AND OPENNESS

AND THAT WAS EXCEPTIONAL BUT LET'S JUST NOTICE THAT,

THAT THAT WOULD BE EXCEPTIONAL YOU KNOW, THERE'S A QUESTION I

OFTEN ASK WHEN I'M IN FRONT OF A MIXED‐RACE GROUP

AND I ASK THE BLACK PEOPLE IN THE ROOM A KIND OF RHETORICAL

QUESTION HOW OFTEN HAVE YOU ATTEMPTED TO

GIVE A WHITE PERSON FEEDBACK ON THEIR INEVITABLE AND OFTEN

UNAWARE RACIST ASSUMPTIONS OR BEHAVIORS AND HAD THAT GO WELL

FOR YOU? NEVER.

NUMBER TWO RESPONSE, RARELY. AND I'LL NEVER FORGET ASKING A

A GROUP, OKAY, SO WHAT IF YOU COULD JUST GIVE US FEEDBACK ON

OUR INEVITABLE AND OFTEN UNAWARE RACIST ASSUMPTIONS AND

BEHAVIORS? AND I'LL NEVER FORGET THIS

BLACK MAN RAISING HIS HAND AND SAYING, "IT WOULD BE

REVOLUTIONARY. >> Jimmy: WOW.

>> AND YOU KNOW, JUST TAKE THAT IN

I JUST WANT ALL THE WHITE PEOPLE TO JUST TAKE THAT IN.

REVOLUTIONARY THAT WE WOULD RECEIVE THE FEEDBACK WITH

GRACE, REFLECT AND SEEK TO CHANGE OUR BEHAVIOR.

THAT'S HOW DIFFICULT WE ARE. >> Jimmy: WOW.

>> THAT'S HOW BIG OF A‐HOLES WE ARE.

>> Jimmy: YEAH >> BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU

KNOW, THAT'S NOT A VERY TALL ORDER.

REALLY, THAT THAT'S A REVOLUTION

BUT WE CAN'T GET THERE FROM THE CURRENT PARADIGM THAT SAYS ONLY

MEAN PEOPLE WHO WANT TO HURT OTHERS BASED ON RACE EVER COULD

DO SO. SO WE JUST HAVE TO CHANGE WHAT

WE UNDERSTAND IT MEANS TO PERPETRATE RACISM.

>> Jimmy: YEAH, AND WELL, THE TERM "WHITE FRAGILITY," DID YOU

COIN THAT TERM DID YOU COME UP WITH THAT?

>> I DID >> Jimmy: WHAT DOES IT MEAN

FOR ‐‐ EXACTLY >> WELL THE FRAGILITY PART IS

MEANT TO CAPTURE HOW LITTLE IT TAKES TO CAUSE WHITE PEOPLE TO

MELT DOWN IN DEFENSIVENESS AND UMBRAGE.

I MEAN, WE MAKE IT SO MISERABLE FOR BLACK PEOPLE TO TALK TO US

ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE EXPERIENCING FROM US, THAT MOST OF THE TIME

THEY JUST DON'T. IT'S NOT WORTH IT.

IT TENDS TO GET WORSE, NOT BETTER

AND SO IN THAT WAY WHITE FRAGILITY IS QUITE POWERFUL.

AND IT PROTECTS THE RACIAL STATUS QUO

>> Jimmy: CAN YOU HELP ME IN A A WAY, I WANNA ASK A QUESTION,

LIKE HOW DOES ONE SAY ‐‐ HOW DOES A WHITE PERSON SAY THAT

THEY'RE NOT RACIST >> WELL, WHITE PEOPLE OFTEN

SAY, I'M NOT RACIST. I KNOW YOU HAVE.

I HAVE DONE THINGS IN MY LIFE I RECOGNIZE AS RACIST TODAY.

I WOULD NOT DO THEM AGAIN. THEY WERE NEITHER INTENTIONAL

OR EVEN CONSCIOUS, AND YET THEY WOUNDED OTHER PEOPLE

NONETHELESS. I THINK WHITE PEOPLE SHOULD

REMOVE THAT PHRASE FROM THEIR VOCABULARY, "I'M NOT RACIST.

IT'S NOT ‐‐ TRUST ME, IT'S NOT CONVINCING TO BLACK PEOPLE

AS LONG AS WE DEFINE RACISM AS INDIVIDUAL, INTENTIONAL ACTS OF

MEANNESS, THEN I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU THAT MOST WHITE PEOPLE

ARE NOT RACIST BUT WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT THE

RACISM THAT I HAVE, THE RACISM THAT YOU HAVE, IT'S THE RESULT

OF LIVING IN A SOCIETY IN WHICH RACISM IS THE FOUNDATION

WE ALL ABSORB IT WE ALL ABSORB IT

THERE'S NO WAY WE COULD EXEMPT OURSELVES FROM IT.

AND SO WE NEED TO CHANGE OUR QUESTION FROM "IF I'M RACIST,"

TO WHICH MOST WHITE PEOPLE WILL SAY NO ‐

>> Jimmy: YEAH >> TO, "HOW HAVE I BEEN SHAPED

BY THE FORCES OF RACISM I WAS BORN INTO?

AND, "HOW IS IT MANIFESTING IN MY LIFE?

IT'S A REALLY DIFFERENT QUESTION

>> Jimmy: YEAH >> BUT IF I ASKED, "IF" AND THE

ANSWER IS NO, WHAT FURTHER ACTION IS REQUIRED OF ME TO

CHALLENGE RACISM NOTHING, I'M NOT RACIST.

IF I ASK HOW HAVE I BEEN SHAPED AND WHAT IS IT LOOKING LIKE IN

MY LIFE, WELL, THAT SETS ME ON A LIFELONG PROCESS

AND I CAN JUST TELL YOU, LOOK AROUND AT THE SOCIETY.

WHITE PEOPLE THINKING WE'RE NOT RACIST IS NOT AND HAS NOT ENDED

RACISM WE HAVE TO CHANGE OUR PARADIGM

WE CAN NEVER BE COMPLACENT >> Jimmy: SO WHERE CAN WHITE

PEOPLE START >> I WOULD SAY START WITH

ASKING YOURSELF THIS QUESTION ‐‐ WHAT DOES IT MEAN

TO BE WHITE? MOST WHITE PEOPLE CAN'T ANSWER

THAT QUESTION. AND IF I CAN'T HOLD WHAT IT

MEANS TO BE WHITE, I CANNOT HOLD WHAT IT MEANS NOT TO BE

WHITE. AND I'M GOING TO HAVE NO

CRITICAL THINKING ON THIS TOPIC, NO SKILLS TO NAVIGATE

THIS UNCOMFORTABLE CONVERSATION, AND NO EMOTIONAL

CAPACITY TO WITHSTAND HOW UNCOMFORTABLE THE CONVERSATION

IS AND THAT MEANS BLACK PEOPLE

CAN'T BE THEIR AUTHENTIC SELVES WITH US.

THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES TO US NOT BEING ABLE TO ANSWER THAT

QUESTION AND IF YOU START THERE, HOW HAS

BEING WHITE SHAPED MY LIFE AND HOW IS THAT MANIFESTING IN

MY LIFE? THAT WILL SET YOU ON A LIFELONG

PATH >> Jimmy: DR. DiANGELO, THANK

YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME TO TALK TO ME AND BEING ON "THE

TONIGHT SHOW." I'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU BACK.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE US TALKING LIKE THIS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> I'D LOVE TO BE BACK

THANK YOU. ♪

>> Jimmy: A PERFORMANCE FROM WEEZER WHEN WE GET BACK.

♪ >> Jimmy: IT'S ALMOST TIME,

EVERYBODY. HERE THEY ARE, PERFORMING THE

SONG, "HERO" FROM THEIR NEW ALBUM, "VAN WEEZER," THIS IS WEEZER

♪ WHEN I WAS A KI I THOUGHT I'D SAVE THE WORLD

RUNNING ROUND AN CHASING ALL THE CRIMINALS ♪

♪ SWINGING ON A WEB FLYING IN THE SK

SHOOTING LASERS FROM MY EYES BUT NOW I KNOW ♪

♪ IT NEVER WAS MY DESTINY IT'S NOT MY PLACE IN LIF

NOT WHO I'M MEANT TO B AND I DON'T WANT THE GLORY ♪

♪ I DON'T WANT THE FAME AND I DON'T WANN

WEAR THAT CAPE CAUSE ON THE INSIDE ♪

♪ I KNOW IT WON'T LAS ON THE INSIDE I'M AN OUTCAST

WELL EVERYBODY NEEDS A HER BUT I'M NOT EVERYBODY ELSE ♪

♪ I WALK ALONE YEAH I WALK ALONE

YEAH I WALK ALON OH YEAH ♪

♪ YOU KNOW I TRIE TO BE A HERO

BUT I WAS LYING TO MYSEL I WALK ALONE ♪

♪ YEAH I WALK ALONE YEAH I WALK ALONE OH YEA

THEY BUILD YOU U AND THEN ♪

♪ THEY'RE GONNA TEAR YOU DOW

THEY LOVE YO THEN THEY HATE YOU ♪

♪ IF YOU WEAR A CROWN IT'S NOT THAT I DON'

LOVE TO SOLVE A MYSTER BUT LIFE IS HARD ENOUGH ♪

♪ WITH ONE IDENTITY IF SILENCE IS THE VOIC

OF A NEW GENERATIO THEN I COULD LIVE UP TO ♪

♪ ALL OF YOUR EXPECTATION I'D HAMMER DOWN HARD

LIKE I'M IRON FIST THEN DISAPPEAR ♪

♪ LIKE I DON'T EXIS CAUSE ON THE INSID

ON THE INSID I KNOW IT WON'T LAST ♪

♪ ON THE INSIDE ON THE INSID

I'M AN OUTCAST WELL EVERYBODY NEEDS ♪

♪ A HER BUT I'M NOT EVERYBODY ELSE

I WALK ALONE YEAH I WALK ALONE ♪

♪ YEAH I WALK ALONE OH YEA

YOU KNOW I TRIED TO BE A HER BUT I WAS LYING TO MYSELF ♪

♪ I WALK ALONE YEAH I WALK ALONE

YEAH I WALK ALON

OH YEAH ♪ ♪ ♪

♪ WELL EVERYBOD NEEDS A HERO

BUT I'M NOT EVERYBODY ELSE I WALK ALONE ♪

♪ YEAH I WALK ALONE YEAH I WALK ALON

OH YEA YOU KNOW I TRIED ♪

♪ TO BE A HER BUT I WAS LYING TO MYSEL

I WALK ALONE YEAH I WALK ALONE ♪

♪ YEAH I WALK ALONE OH YEAH ♪ ♪

>> Jimmy: THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR WATCHING "THE TONIGHT

SHOW." WE APPRECIATE IT

THANK YOU TO SEAN PENN THANK YOU TO DR. DiANGELO.

THANK YOU TO WEEZER. STAY SAFE.

WASH YOUR HANDS. DO NOT TOUCH YOUR FACE

GO, WIN. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT

ALL RIGHT, I'M GONNA GO NOW. [ SCREAMING