All language subtitles for 2-3크리미널

Juliet Miller, I'm charging you with
the attempted murder of your husband.

This is not some spontaneous domestic,
it's a proper, planned shot at murder.

Tell me Juliet Miller
isn't an abused woman.

What does Jack say he did to you?

He raped me.

No bruising,
no tearing, no abrasions.

- Oh, so no rape?
- But there is a baby.

Bingo.

We're in trouble.

We really, badly want to help you,

but we can't do it
unless you start talking to us.

On a scale of one to ten,

where would you put the pain you feel
about what's happened?

12.

Joe said something in hospital before
he lost consciousness. Your name.

Why that?

There is something, isn't there?

Oi, grass.

It's your husband.

I'm afraid he's dead.

Anna. It's a murder now.

Is Jack coming?

This isn't about
the criminal proceedings.

I'm here at the request
of the Local Authority.

- Why?
- To make an assessment.

Is this about the baby?

Can you...?
Do you mind if you don't do that?

What's that?

Those...

I don't mind a conversation,
but silence is...

You should drink your tea.

What are you worried about?

The woman who brought the tea?

Do you think she wants to hurt you?

She's poisoned it?

Is that what you think?

Tell me about Ella.

I love her.

She's my daughter.

How do you think she feels
about what's happened?

She doesn't want to see me.

She's angry with me.

I think that will change.

Come on. Let's go for lunch.

Hello.

Where is everyone?

The Governor's packet
of Maltesers melted.

I don't understand.

It's 35 degrees in here
and only 33 outside.

He decided it would be best
for the whole prison to have a picnic.

They'll be back in ten minutes.

Leave me alone.

I've seen you looking at me.

Help.

Oh, Go... Help me!

You're fully dilated.
She's ready to have this baby.

We're going to take
a statement from you now,

which is basically me asking you
questions and you answering them.

Then that gets written up
to make it read

like you're actually saying it
without me here at all.

Then later
your evidence will be filmed

and that's what the jury will see.

Then at the trial,
you'll be cross examined...

- By Mum.
- By a barrister.

Mum's barrister.

You won't be in the witness box.

You'll be in a special room.
The jury will be able to see you...

Does it have to be like that?

- What do you mean?
- She means...

can she do it all live

in the witness box?

- You're 13 years old.
- He's my dad.

You'll be shown round the court
before the trial begins and...

we could probably arrange for you
to meet the judge...

which would help.
Wouldn't it, Flo?

You're so good at this.

- Hello.
- What do you want?

- Why are you here?
- To see you and the baby.

Is that all?

I would have been here for the birth
if you'd given us some notice.

Ella came out quickly too.

She was born at home. Joe...

Joe was there.

Will you ask Ella to come and see
her baby sister?

I'll ask her.

Thank you.

We're finding you a place
on a mother and baby unit.

You have to go in front of a board
to decide if you're suitable.

What would not be suitable?

History of drug use,
disruptive behaviour...

You'll be fine.

All right!

I'm going to take you through
step by step everything that happened.

But you don't have to do it like that,
if you don't want.

We can start wherever you like.

Like where?

You could tell us about your dad.

What kind of a father he was.

How much you miss him.

They won't let her do it.

- No, I think they will.
- It's not up to us. Or her.

I think a psych will say
that she's Gillick-competent.

What?

It's the name they give when they decide
whether a child can go live in the box.

What are you?
A lawyer all of a sudden?

I looked it up.

I know what you're doing.
You're grooming her.

Don't use that word.

Helping her to stay angry so that
she puts on a good show for the jury.

- Grooming.
- You think she's actually like that?

All very calm and together
having really quite recently

watched her mother murder
her father with a kitchen knife?

Would that be the real Ella Miller,
in there, would it, Flo?

Hello.

OK, thanks.

- No places.
- What about Styal?

- Full.
- She's three hours old.

It's not a good idea, in our job,
to get in too close.

That used to be
the whole point.

It's in the best interests of babies
to be with their mothers.

You're shouting too much, Norma.

We're in the same building,
you and me.

Why don't you take a little time
to reflect on your performance?

- What did you say to me?
- You heard.

Fresh feet...

clear brain.

You've kept all this...

And his name on the board outside.

The thing about him being dead is

that a tiny part of me
thinks it isn't true.

Tell me about his lists.

Race times,

broken down into 5K splits
for every race he ran.

Joe Miller the obsessive. That'd be a
line to take if I were defence counsel.

We're all trainspotters, ain't we?
We love facts and league tables.

Did you see much of him in court?

He could really do people over.

I don't think anyone he cross examined
was ever the same again.

Even top class villains.

You don't mind telling me things
which might work against Joe?

It all gets one dimensional
when it goes to trial.

You and me, we can have
a proper conversation about him.

I miss him too much
not to talk about him properly.

How would you describe
your relationship?

I loved him.

- What does that mean?
- I had faith in him.

What about Joe at home?

My honest opinion?

He was a saint.

You know what worries me?

What she'll pull at the trial.

Juliet the victim.

And how much do we love a victim?

I'm scared she'll get off, Mr Faber.

Were you at the Miller house a lot?

No. She didn't like people there.

- Who told you that?
- He did.

How do you know he was a saint
if you were never there?

I know everything about everyone,

or I am nothing.

How is she?

Better. She's... quieter.

You should be careful with that.

What do you mean?

Ella's anaesthetising herself.
Underneath she's screaming.

Isn't that a bit oversimplified?

It's very common for foster families
to encourage quietness

because it makes life easier for them.
They often don't know they're doing it.

What are we supposed to do?
Shake her up?

- Force her to be unhappy?
- Keep talking.

Is this why I'm here?

Juliet's had her baby.

Great. Good.

Is she all right?

A girl.

In case you were wondering.

It doesn't sound like Ella.

It's a witness statement.

They make everyone
sound like police officers.

Has Ella ever "proceeded
down the stairs" in her life?

Never.

It must have been so hard for her
having a depressed mum.

Or to put it another way it was hard
for her having a father who

made her mother feel depressed...

isolated...

small.

Is that unfair?

Joe's dead.

He's not in charge any more.

You are.

And you've got responsibilities.

Because Joe is dead,

our options are different.

If you were to tell me that

I'm right...

the way he behaved made you feel

isolated, depressed...

then the jury would have to consider

whether you'd been provoked

into doing what you did.

I'm just here to tell you
about the law.

That's my job.

Whether or not we use provocation as
a defence is completely down to you

and what you tell me.

I can't control that.

She's beautiful.

I've got something to tell you.

You've got a little sister.

We can go and see her.

Would you like that?

I can't be like your dad.

But you can talk to me
if you want to.

- Why's he doing this?
- Sir?

All from his mobile phone.
Why would he do that?

- Have you interviewed Juliet's friends?
- She hasn't got any.

Doesn't that bother you?

When we charged her she asked to clean
her teeth. Women like that have friends?

What did Ella say about her mum
not having friends?

We didn't ask her.

Who was doing the questions?

Man to man, outside of the job.

Don't do that in front of my wife.

- What's that?
- Criticise me, Sir.

If you are so convinced that Juliet
Miller is a cold blooded murderer,

- why are you against me looking at Joe?
- I don't understand.

- Are you scared I find something?
- Scared? What are you talking about?

I can't think how else to explain
your strength of feeling.

Don't you want to know
why she did it?

Caring about why people do what they do
to each other will make you mad.

We're only policemen, Boss.

Is that what you really think?

I'm your fool, remember.

Fools tell the truth.

Every bed in every mother and baby unit
in the country is full.

- We haven't told her.
- What does this all actually mean?

Baby will go into temporary care.

As a rule, we like to try
and place siblings together.

They're asleep.

I don't want to disturb them.
I'll come back in the morning.

It's half past nine.

- What are you doing?
- I'm front-loading.

Front-loading?

My report for the board
on Juliet Miller.

If a place comes up in a mother
and baby unit, I want to be ready.

I've never heard you use a term
like front-loading before.

I reflected on my performance

and I'm aiming at a more moderated
approach to my goal achieving.

Drug mule.

Half a million pounds' worth
of heroin through Heathrow.

Why the hell should she get
a place ahead of you?

The Millers' car. Taken 50 yards
from Dominic Rose's house.

- By who?
- The parking warden

- who was about to slap a ticket on it.
- When?

Day of the stabbing.
Joe was in court when this was taken.

The woman who never went out, went out.
What was she doing there?

- I'll see you later, Boss.
- Wait.

Yep, the Joe Miller mobile photographs.
Do we have the time they were taken?

Good.
Get me March 9, the day of the stabbing.

I'm coming with you.

What are you doing?
You're not going in with her?

Don't be ridiculous.
What's she going to do?

- You'd be amazed.
- Amaze me.

We had one woman faking four hours
of labour then making a run for it.

Juliet just pretended to give birth?

The big tear in her perineum was part
of a cunning escape plan?

Listen. We'll do our job. Right.
You do yours. Come on.

Do you know how difficult it is trying
to pee with ten stitches in your vagina?

My client actually
needs to take a pooh.

Right now. She does.

Hello.

Hello.

Well done.

Thank you.

- How long are you...?
- As soon as I'm ready,

they'll send us
to a mother and baby unit.

What?

Oh, no, there's no way
we're taking the baby.

It would be too much to ask
of my family.

We used to have them over a lot.

And the girls have
always been friends.

You said used to?

- Before Juliet became depressed?
- Actually it was Joe.

What do you mean?

He was the kind of man
who you could go to dinner with

and come away thinking he was
the most urbane, amusing man.

And the second time, the same.

But by the fifth time,
you never wanted to see him again.

Charm wears thin.

Why didn't you
carry on seeing Juliet?

She was very finely tuned

to everything concerning Joe.

She sensed it
when I got tired of him.

She was

a loyal wife.

When did you last speak to her?

She stopped going out
about a year ago.

I don't know.

The afternoon
before it all happened,

I was at home and the phone rang...

Twice, I think.

But the caller hung up.

I think it was Juliet.

Was Dominic at home?

He came home, yes.

Did you go out?

I went swimming.

I have to take the baby.

How long for?

I can't say.

How long could it be?

We don't know.

Can I fight this?

There are no places.
There's nothing to fight.

Now?

There's no choice.

Right now?

That policeman wants to talk to you.

What did he want?

I don't know, really.

I told him about the calls.

What calls?

This daysomeone kept phoning
and then hanging up.

I think it was Juliet.

Are you going to ring him?

I'll pop down to the police station.

I don't want the girls to...

Trigger moments we call them.

Would you tell me about it?

Can you manage that?

Where were you...

when the memory was triggered?

Just on the street.

Did anyone speak to you?

Did you overhear anything?

Any other noises?

Smells?

There was a smell?

Meat.

A butcher?

Blood.

Can you look at me?

Don't look away.

You can do it.

He's lying on the bed

and he's bleeding

and I try to stop it, but it just...

soaks through...

and I can't stop Daddy bleeding.

What's the feeling

that goes with it?

My stomach drops.

My heart feels fast.

Give me a picture of happy Dad.

It doesn't matter what.

We used to go body boarding
in Saint Ives.

Once...

Just one big wave

came right up to the beach.

How did it feel?

I didn't know he'd caught it
until we were both

just there.

Together.

It made me feel happy. And safe.

We're going to get those feelings

back for you.

Thanks.

There's a place

- but the board can't sit now.
- Why can't they do it today?

Outside my influence.
It's a prison thing.

Pick up the phone,
make all the multi-agency stuff work

and get a board convened now!
You probably know the prison governor.

You do know him.

Don't bully me.

- Three o'clock.
- Thank you.

Don't be late.

There's a place. I'm so sorry.

- But you need to do the Board.
- When?

You said you might harm yourself.

- I don't think so.
- We've got a record of it.

I just said that.

You just said it?

- I didn't mean it.
- What did you mean?

I don't know.

- Was it a lie?
- No.

Why did you say it?

I was frightened.

- Are you lying to us?
- No.

Anything you'd like to add?

I don't think I could go on
without my baby.

Sorry, we don't do blackmail.

It's how I feel.

She doesn't take drugs,
not an alcoholic, had a baby before,

she'd be a good influence.
What more do you want?

So, she came to see you
on the Monday afternoon.

About 2.25.

She wanted to talk to me about
the anti-depressants she was taking.

You haven't told us
about this before.

It didn't seem all that relevant.

So why at your house
and not at the surgery?

She's a friend.

- Just an old-fashioned house call.
- If you like.

Except they're usually
at the patient's house.

- Why your house?
- I don't know. No reason really.

You've spoken about this at home.

With your wife.

Lady Macbeth was sleeping
with the Doctor.

Or at the least she was trying to.

Are you sure?

Police And Thieves,

Bank Robber,

I Fought The Law.

They were really into
the criminal justice system.

I don't want to have sex tonight.

It's a bit like doing the lottery
with the same numbers each week.

The one night you don't do it...

- You're angry with me.
- No

What's the matter?

Dunno.

Five more minutes, Floflo.

Come in.

Your godfather's here.

Is it all right if I...
sit in on this one?

This is a one to one.

My dad was a Kindertransport boy.

I've never told anyone this.

You know what that means?

10,000 Jewish children
were allowed to leave

Nazi Germany and Austria
in 1939 to come to Britain.

But if they wanted to come

they had to leave
without their parents.

My father's mum and dad decided
he was old enough to choose.

To leave them or not.

It was a terrible thing
to ask a boy to do,

but it was the making of him.

And they knew that.

From that day,
they gave him his adult life.

Now you...

you carry on being brave, Ella.

Now, when this trial starts
you go into that courtroom,

look everyone in the eye

and you let that jury know
that you are your father's daughter.

Look at me.

I have so much respect for you.

We have to ask

is a baby safe with this woman,

when we don't know
what makes her violent?

So what's the answer?

Either this was unprovoked
or it was provoked.

If unprovoked, then she isn't safe.

But our picture of Juliet
is evolving.

It's a question
of careful monitoring

to see how she responds
to her circumstances.

Why are we holding off here?
What's there to evolve?

There's a chance of manslaughter?
But what does that do?

Still leaves us with killer mum.

My question is

can we say the A-word here?

Are we aiming for adoption?
Or are we all too shy to say it?

One step at a time.

Let's see how she responds
to being in the family court tomorrow.

So we fuck her up and then
we decide how much more to fuck her up

based on how she reacts?

I don't think that sort of language
is very useful.

- Why are you so pro-Mum?
- I'm not. I'm pro baby.

We were gonna go out.

Did you want to come?

I'm fine.

Are you OK?

My Dad says your Mum's great.
Whatever anyone says about her.

He told you to say that?

Was the knife right in?

Up to the handle?

Did you see her do it?

Would you stop?

What?

Work.

If you get pregnant?

I don't want to talk about it.

I know it seems like bad luck
but I..

want to. Sorry.

You could be pregnant right now.

Imagine.

Baby Flo.

Imagine that.

I want to sleep in the spare room.

Don't think that would be good for Ella.
She might feel rejected.

And what about Kate?

This isn't fair on her.

The Family Court
isn't like the Crown Court.

It's more informal, relaxed.

They just need to know
that you are not a risk to your baby.

We know that you wouldn't,
but we need to convince them

you are not in any way
likely to hurt her.

Why would I hurt her?

Look at her.

Tell them
I could never harm my baby.

There's a difference between

me telling the Judge
and her hearing it from you.

It's so much stronger
if you tell her.

What I say isn't evidence,
it's just argument.

I don't know if I can.

- What was Joe doing to Ella?
- What?

You told Ella that you did it for her.
Why was that?

Was it something you were frightened
he would start doing to her?

Which means it was something
that he was doing to you?

You need to help yourself here.

You need to go into court
and tell that Judge

all about your relationship with Joe.
We can't do that for you.

I can't.

Why?

- Cause Ella will find out what you say?
- And what's wrong with that?

- I haven't stopped being her mother.
- Do you want to keep this baby?

The worst thing that can happen here
is you come away thinking

that you haven't done everything
in your power to convince this court

that you are not a risk
to this baby.

You are going to have to say things
that upset people, even Ella.

Do you suffer feelings of paranoia?

My client can not be expected
to comment on a medical condition.

Do you believe another prisoner
is trying to poison you?

I don't know.

Perhaps.

You don't know
what's it like in prison...

Hard?

Emotionally exhausting,
I should imagine.

Do you sometimes
think about suicide?

That's not what you told
the prison reception officer, is it?

I didn't have my baby then.

What are you suggesting?

- Do you think that I don't love her?
- That's not the issue.

Is that what you're saying?

Why won't you answer my question?

The question is
whether you pose a risk to your baby.

I could never harm her.

I love her.

And did you love your husband?

She hasn't been in control.

These things have been
happening to her.

She doesn't choose to be in prison.

She can't help it that women's prisons
are hell on Earth.

I'm not a jury, Miss Klein.

You might be able to showboat
at the Old Bailey,

but not in my court.

I apologise.
I'm simply asking you to look beyond

what would be true
of any woman in her position.

At what?

I can't imagine evidence.

Does she say she is not paranoid?

That she didn't stab her husband
with a kitchen knife in bed?

Where is she?

The maternity nurse is bringing her in.
It's fine.

- Are they going to take her away?
- No. This is very early days.

He's just decided
the threshold criteria has been met,

and you do pose a risk to the baby.

What does it mean?

No-one's going to take her away now.

I want to see her. Where is she?

I never lied to you.
I'm not going to start.

What happened today should have
no bearing on a final hearing.

But these things gain momentum.

Everyone pretends they don't,
but they do.

People's minds, once they've started
going in one direction,

it's hard to change track.

At the final hearing,

what happens to your baby
is entirely up for grabs.

Provided you're not starting
a life sentence for murder.

If you want to keep your baby...

... you need to get off
on the murder.

That's our whole focus now.

If you want to get off the murder

you need to tell us

what Joe did to you.

Van's here, ladies.

Let's go.

It will give her the stimulus
she's missing in here.

Sunshine. Flowers. Everything.

It's only 24 hours.

When baby's away,
it's hard to get the milk going

because the triggers are missing...
her touch, her cry.

So a photo helps.

They're very nice women

and it's what's best for baby.

And that's what counts, isn't it?

It upsets the other mothers
seeing a mum missing her baby.

So 24 hours back here.

Don't worry.

The time flies.

And you're back in your old cell,
with an old friend.

Norma was kind of suggesting

that we needed to know
that he was talking to Ella.

But she didn't say why?

She's a very experienced
social worker.

- What about her?
- Saul the clerk spends time with Ella.

I know. He does.

Why?

Why shouldn't he?
He's her godfather.

Don't you think
he could just be a little bit pro Joe?

For a man as sentimental as Saul,

preserving the memory of a dead love one
is as close to happiness as it gets.

Happiness?

What are you talking about?
He's dead.

A man is dead.

What is this? You think
woman should get to look after her kids?

What's the matter with you?

Aren't you police officers?
Are we social workers?

- Enough.
- She's going down.

- Not up to you.
- With the greatest of respect,

it's about time you stopped your egoism
and start becoming a policeman!

Wiggle your toes for me, Ange.

I'm so sorry, Ange.

Help!

Just remember.
She's not like any other client.

Abused women are different.

There are reasons for what I did.

What reasons?

Why did you kill Dad?

Is it a good idea for a 13-year-old girl
to give evidence live

in a witness box
about the death of her father?

- He said "I love you".
- And how can you be so sure of this?

Because it was the last thing
I ever heard Daddy say.

Use your common sense,
and when you do that,

there's only one verdict
you can properly return.

Guilty as charged.