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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:06,400 What kind of a murder is this? Vicious, brutal, frenzied. 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:11,080 - Did I leave my watch at your house? - Juliet. Are you going to tell him? 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:12,840 I know what's happening at home. 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,480 I know it's hard. 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,880 You're not meant to bring the personal to court, 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,360 it's just that sometimes it's very difficult to be dispassionate. 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,000 - Oooh! - Daddy! 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,880 "Dad, did you win your incredibly important trial?" 9 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,920 - What did he get? - Murder, darling. It's always life. 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,880 Put aside your feelings, and examine the evidence. 11 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:41,200 And when you do, I know you'll bring back the only possible verdict. 12 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,080 Arrgh! 13 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,560 It's my husband. He's hurt. 14 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,040 - Rose. - Rose? 15 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,160 You have to talk about what happened. 16 00:00:51,160 --> 00:00:54,200 - And you'll talk to me first. - Nailed her, sir. 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,480 She coughed. 18 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:01,080 Did she talk about why? Did anyone ask her why she did it? 19 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:08,120 This programme contains some strong language and violent scenes. 20 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:06,800 CLATTERING 21 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,760 What time did we finish writing these? 22 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,360 About an hour ago. 23 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,160 She didn't want a solicitor in the interview? 24 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,360 Well, she was asked, but she said no. 25 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,720 It's on tape. It's a proper cough, boss. 26 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,400 - I want a rape exam. - She didn't mention rape. 27 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,240 All the more reason. Have the clocks just gone back? 28 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,960 You're an hour out with the timing of your notes. 29 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,080 Do you want a biscuit? 30 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,680 Go on. 31 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,960 I used to come here when it was police accommodation. 32 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,160 My friend lived here. 33 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,520 She was called Susan. 34 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,080 People aren't called Susan any more, are they? 35 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:30,720 DOOR OPENS 36 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,520 OK. Higher and lower vaginal swabs - some discomfort, 37 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,480 nothing to write home about. 38 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,920 Dressing gown off, lie on the bed, please. 39 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:42,440 Will it harm my baby? 40 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,800 'No bruising, no tearing, no abrasions.' 41 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:59,800 Oh, so no rape. So we've got a full confession, no sign of any physical or sexual abuse. 42 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,480 But there is a baby. 43 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,240 SHE RETCHES REPEATEDLY 44 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:17,960 S-s-sorry. 45 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,440 I didn't mean to... 46 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:24,400 Juliet Miller. I'm charging you with the attempted murder of your husband. 47 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,400 You do not have to say anything but it may harm your defence 48 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,680 if you do not mention, when questioned, something which you later rely on in court. 49 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,040 Anything you do say may be given in evidence. 50 00:04:37,280 --> 00:04:38,600 C-C-can I clean my teeth? 51 00:04:47,280 --> 00:04:48,720 SHE RETCHES 52 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,560 PRISON DOOR SHUTS 53 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,440 MACHINE BEEPS 54 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,720 Oh, my God. 55 00:05:01,280 --> 00:05:03,600 Oh, my God! I saw him yesterday. 56 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,760 - I want you to do this. - OK. 57 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,880 I mean, really do it. I want Juliet Miller to see the same faces - yours and mine. 58 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,160 - I've got something before 12. - Dump it. 59 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:13,720 OK. What's looking runnable? 60 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,280 Self defence, maybe. 61 00:05:15,280 --> 00:05:18,040 - You don't sound hopeful. - She's not talking to me yet. 62 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:19,760 And if he dies? 63 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,560 - Then we look at provocation. - Nobody says it, do they? 64 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,520 If you're an abused woman and you attack an abuser, make sure you kill him - 65 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,520 if you don't, it's not murder, we can't run provocation. 66 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,480 So is he going to die? 67 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:36,840 Jack? 68 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,200 - It's not mine. The stash belongs to my boyfriend. - SHE SNIFFS 69 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,800 - I'm sick of him. I'm not having it. - Hello, Angela. 70 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,320 Juliet? Anna Klein. Hello. 71 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,200 Jack's told me all about you. I'm going to try and get you bail. OK? 72 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,400 - Morning, everyone. - Morning, sir. 73 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,360 Number three on your list, sir. Angela Spencer. 74 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,160 Is your name Angela Spencer? 75 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,400 - Yeah. - Date of birth? 76 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,840 - July 16th. - Which year? 77 00:06:07,840 --> 00:06:08,880 Every year. 78 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,560 1985, sir. 79 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:17,240 No objection to bail if there is an address for her to go to. 80 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,760 What's the bruising, Miss Spencer? 81 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,680 - I walked into a door. - You'll have to speak up. 82 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,200 She walked into a door. 83 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:30,040 - 118A Bowman Street? - That's my boyfriend's. I don't want to go there. - Why not? 84 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,520 Because she walks into doors. 85 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:36,960 - Bail hostel? - There's a bed, but it's in Leeds. 86 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:38,920 Good. I'll bail you to a bail hostel. 87 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,000 Seven days? 88 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,880 SHE SNIFFS 89 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:45,040 I won't get back here. 90 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,760 The hostel will sort out getting you back for court. 91 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:52,400 - They'll fuck it up or I will. It always fucks up. - Miss Woolf? 92 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,960 - Will I go inside if I put my hands up to this? - Yeah. 93 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:56,960 - Good. I'll plead. - Angela... 94 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,480 The stash is mine. It's a fair cop. Whatever. 95 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,960 - Professionally speaking... - Professionally speaking, I want to go prison, 96 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,840 because I need a break and the rehab is better. 97 00:07:06,840 --> 00:07:09,080 Can I take a plea now, sir? 98 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,280 Just to be clear, Miss Spencer. Your solicitor will tell you, 99 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,720 only plead guilty if you are guilty, not for any other reason. 100 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,200 You will go to prison for six months. 101 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,080 Take her down. 102 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:26,760 Next. 103 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,720 Number two on your list, sir. 104 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,720 Juliet Miller, 105 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,920 charged with attempted murder. 106 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,960 THEY WHISPER 107 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:51,720 Bail position? 108 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,120 Repeated attempts to interfere with evidence gathering 109 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:59,000 and when the defendant saw her daughter, her behaviour was unstable. 110 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,520 The daughter is a probable prosecution witness, and there's a real fear 111 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,160 the defendant will attempt to interfere with her if granted bail. 112 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,240 You have to let me see her! 113 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,920 Please. Let me see my daughter. 114 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,960 Please let me see my daughter. 115 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,680 - Please let me see my daughter! - SHE CRIES 116 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,040 Yes, Miss Klein? 117 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,640 "Extremely unstable." Any thoughts? 118 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,280 Your Honour, she saw her 13-year-old daughter at the police station. 119 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,440 She didn't know she was there because nobody had told her. 120 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,320 She reacted in the way that any mother would react. 121 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,560 Of course she was emotional. What kind of a mother would she be 122 00:08:41,560 --> 00:08:44,480 if she weren't emotional under those circumstances? 123 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,240 There is no direct evidence she would try to interfere with a witness. 124 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:52,320 Except that she was arrested in the Critical Care Unit at the hospital 125 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,120 in the middle of the night trying to get to her husband 126 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,680 and had to be restrained by two police officers. 127 00:08:57,680 --> 00:09:00,840 Thank you so much. Bail is refused. 128 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,360 No-one told me about the hospital! 129 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,720 It's up to the CPS how they do things in court. 130 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,400 They weren't at the hospital, were they? You were. 131 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,160 We only arrested her 12 hours ago. 132 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,560 I don't have time to set up ambushes to scupper bail applications. 133 00:09:32,560 --> 00:09:36,520 We know a bit more than you know, that's all. Will you excuse me? 134 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,800 Big balls for a Doris. 135 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,400 - You know how she got silk? - No. 136 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:50,520 - If she'd been black, she'd have got it even younger. - Who's that? 137 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:55,040 It's one of the neighbours. Their daughter's best friends with Ella. 138 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,920 They've agreed to look after her until Joe gets better. 139 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,560 Call me, we should talk. 140 00:10:00,560 --> 00:10:04,040 Only 219 women QCs at the Bar ever, in its entire history. 141 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,480 I don't think your positive discrimination theory holds water. 142 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,240 Hello, Norma Fredericks? 143 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,480 Be with you in a moment. I just need two minutes with Dr Rose. 144 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,760 BANGING 145 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,000 Don't look at me. 146 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,480 Don't look at me! 147 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,520 BANGING RESUMES 148 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:42,720 Hey. 149 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,960 Here you go. 150 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,720 - When does the van go? - After lunch. 151 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:52,360 - I need my methadone. - The prison will know that. You're all right. 152 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,200 - Have you called them? - They know your needs. They know you, Ange. 153 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,880 I'm sorry about bail. 154 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,000 - Any questions about anything? - Has he woken up? 155 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:06,040 - Not yet. - What will he say, do you think, when he wakes up? 156 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,840 You're scared of him, aren't you? 157 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,080 I love him. 158 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:20,520 They can just carry on, when he's better, can't they? 159 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,040 They? 160 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:23,560 Ella and Joe, 161 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,120 when I'm in prison. 162 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,880 I mean properly in prison. 163 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:34,920 It's our job to stop that happening. 164 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,080 Why? 165 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,080 'We're a long way from instructions on self defence.' 166 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:47,920 It's a process. 167 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,000 She doesn't even know she's been abused. 168 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:54,520 Nobody can expect her head to clear at the same speed the criminal justice system moves at. 169 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:58,600 - What abuse, Jack? - How do you get to be that frightened? 170 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,160 Tell me Juliet Miller isn't an abused woman. 171 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:08,960 Come on. 172 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,240 - Are you a drug user? - No. 173 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,880 - Are you pregnant? - Yes. 174 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:19,400 Would you now, have you ever, might you in the future consider killing yourself? 175 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,880 - Come on. - Yes or no? 176 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:30,720 - Come on! - Shall I put yes? 177 00:12:32,680 --> 00:12:35,320 Tell me no, if it's not yes. 178 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,080 Come on! 179 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,560 - You're back, you bitch. - Pack it in, Lola. 180 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:21,920 Up we get. 181 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,360 You're having a hard time, 182 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:35,200 but everyone who comes here is in trouble. You're no different. 183 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,200 So long as you understand that, we'll get along fine. 184 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:20,880 Do you have children? 185 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,160 No. No. You? 186 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,160 One? 187 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,920 - A boy? - No. 188 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,320 - How old is she? - "I love him!" 189 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,520 "I love him because he treats me like shit." 190 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:45,440 "I love him because I'm really, really useless and he's really, really wonderful." 191 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,360 Ask Jack if you love him. 192 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,000 - Can I go home? - Why? 193 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,240 Just to get some of my own clothes? 194 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,040 Is there something wrong with these? 195 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,680 I took my father's suits to Oxfam when he died. 196 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,120 My mum said, "Do they wear grey in Africa?" 197 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,040 A smile costs nothing, young lady. 198 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,120 Was it your idea to start taking anti-depressants? 199 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:58,480 I was feeling sad. How's Joe? 200 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,680 Joe suggested the anti-depressants? 201 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,800 - How do you know about this? - Am I right? 202 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,520 I had to stop taking them once I found out that I was pregnant. 203 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,320 - You didn't tell him you'd stopped taking them? - No. 204 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:18,200 - Because you hadn't told him you were pregnant? - Yes. 205 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:19,760 Will he be angry? 206 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,360 So you had to hide the fact that you'd stopped taking the pills? 207 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:29,640 I put them in the rubbish. 208 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,760 - Why? - He would have found out that I wasn't taking them. 209 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,920 How would he have found out? 210 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,720 - Because he... I don't know... - What? Would he have counted them? 211 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,760 He was looking after me. You see, I forget things. 212 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,320 - What things do you forget? - Turning the bath off, the oven on... 213 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,640 - Custard. - Custard? 214 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,800 That night. If I hadn't forgotten to get the... 215 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,520 What? If you hadn't forgotten to get the custard, then what? 216 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,400 Are you helping me? 217 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,600 - Yes, we are. - They say the solicitors help. 218 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,400 Tell us about the custard. 219 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,720 It was on the shopping list. But I didn't get it. 220 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,560 I don't remember seeing it on the list. 221 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,440 I don't even remember the shopping list. 222 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,080 Maybe there wasn't a list? 223 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,000 - There must have been. - Why? - Joe said. 224 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,000 Record from the Miller home computer. 225 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:50,720 Take a look at five o'clock precisely on the night of the crime. 226 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,240 Life insurance. Whose? 227 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,760 Joint. The record was cleared 45 seconds later. 228 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,400 She was hiding it. 229 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:02,960 - If it was her. - Statement from the black cab driver who took Joe home. Look at the time he dropped him off. 230 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,080 "Five o' clock exactly". 231 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,640 He can't know that. How can he know that? 232 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,280 - The pips. - What? - Radio 4. 233 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,800 Cab driver remembers Joe paying 234 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,400 and the pips at five at exactly the same time. 235 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:19,520 Even Joe Miller can't get out of a cab and look at the computer at the same time. 236 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:23,320 No, it was her. And she wanted to hide what she was looking at. 237 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,080 - Gosh. - She was planning it, Flo. 238 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:32,440 This is not some spontaneous domestic, it's a proper, planned shot at murder. 239 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:36,480 - You look like a little boy. - What? 240 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,920 All pleased with what you've found. 241 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,240 It's called police work, love. 242 00:18:54,360 --> 00:18:55,920 What did you used to do? 243 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,160 What? 244 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,920 Before Joe? 245 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,920 - Nothing. - Nothing? 246 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,040 I needed Joe to survive. 247 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,200 What was your sex life like? 248 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:18,920 I wasn't very good at it. 249 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:20,880 He was unhappy about the sex? 250 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,320 Yes. 251 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,360 You won't do what he wants? 252 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,560 What does he want? 253 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,280 Did he rape you? 254 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,000 Let me put it another way. 255 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:41,800 Did you say no to sex? 256 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,680 I should have been nicer to him. 257 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,960 How's Ella? 258 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,640 When can I see her? 259 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,760 She doesn't want to come here. 260 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:07,120 - Not at the moment. - Can we try for bail again? 261 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,440 Please? 262 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,080 What's the difference between rape and saying no to sex? 263 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,600 - The answer from a client. - You think I was pushing her too hard? 264 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,760 I've never coached a witness in my life. 265 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,040 Abused women don't do nods and winks, Anna. 266 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,240 They have to be helped. It's just dishonest not to accept that. 267 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,040 Anyway, we're up and running with self defence. 268 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:41,080 Taking a knife to bed with you. Reasonable force in proportion to the threat? 269 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,160 It's all we've got. 270 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,200 You didn't answer her question. How is he? 271 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,440 He's improving. The bastard. 272 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,600 - You wish he was dead? - As a lawyer? Yes. 273 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,960 As a woman? 274 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,360 - Ain't that our job? - What? 275 00:20:55,360 --> 00:20:57,800 To keep the personal out of the professional. 276 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,880 TV BLARES 277 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,240 PHONE RINGS 278 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,320 'Hello, it's Ella here. 279 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,600 'I'm out and about so I can't take your call, 280 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,800 'but please leave a message and I will call you back.' 281 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,400 Norma? It's me. I don't like it here... 282 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,480 - KNOCKING - Have you got the phone in there? 283 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:11,520 No! 284 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,400 She knows when to stop. 285 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:51,440 - How? - When it hurts enough. 286 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,320 Excuse me, excuse me. 287 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:56,960 She's really bleeding. 288 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,560 Give me the blade, Ange. 289 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,920 Second day, you're a pain in the arse already. 290 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,480 Need some help in here. 291 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:10,000 All I'm saying is how is the reputation of social services looking in London, right now? 292 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,440 - Norma, listen... - Or dropping the bullshit, 293 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:17,400 since there's a safe and suitable middle-class family who would be delighted to have Ella Miller, 294 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,600 - why don't we just get the hell on with it? - Why do you do this job? 295 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,760 The children who live in this borough need me. 296 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,440 Bloody hell. 297 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,000 We've known her all her life. 298 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,360 I mean, Kate and Ella started school together. 299 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,280 What's your attitude to what has happened? 300 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,000 Attitude? God. That's a word. 301 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:46,520 Well, to be honest, we just want to help. 302 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,400 We want to give Ella a normal, warm place to live. 303 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,080 There is something you need to accept. 304 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,640 Juliet could pose a risk to Ella. 305 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:02,720 I'm not pre-judging the criminal proceedings, but her violence is an established and undisputed fact. 306 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,560 What are you saying? 307 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,520 We need to be sure you'll keep Ella safe. 308 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,520 From her mother? She's in prison. 309 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:11,880 She'll be safe with us. 310 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,480 And will she go back to Joe when he's better? 311 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,640 Do you have a view about that? 312 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,920 - Norma? - I'm happy. 313 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,400 Juliet's pregnant. 314 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,880 Did you know that? 315 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,960 No. No. God. 316 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,200 Well, Ella will have to be told. 317 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,000 Yes. Of course. 318 00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:02,200 You knew she was pregnant? 319 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,040 Yeah. 320 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,880 Well, I saw her on the day it all happened. 321 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,120 - As a patient? - Yes. 322 00:25:10,120 --> 00:25:11,680 Have you told the police? 323 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,720 - No. - Why not? 324 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:21,800 Well, I don't want to... contradict what she's saying. 325 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,560 Don't you think it's important? 326 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,640 I mean, her mental state... 327 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,080 Will they get the patient records anyway? 328 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,880 - There are no records. - Why not? 329 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,400 Because I didn't see her at the surgery. 330 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,640 - Where did you see her? - Here. 331 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,120 Jesus Christ, Dom. Why here? 332 00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:51,920 She hates going out. I mean, it's really hard for her to be in the public. 333 00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:03,400 - She's a friend. - Yes. 334 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,360 - You were being kind to her. - Yes. 335 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,440 DOOR OPENS 336 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:32,640 SHE MOUTHS SILENTLY 337 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,720 We're watching you, Ange. 338 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,320 - Why do you do it? - For the pain. 339 00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:52,000 Did you do it at home? 340 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,600 I get battered at home. I don't need to be cutting. 341 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,400 Why does he...? 342 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,440 He's jealous. 343 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,000 What is he jealous of? 344 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,640 What isn't he jealous of? 345 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:07,200 We had a broken drain in our street once and the sewage flooded our flat. 346 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,320 He was down the pub and when he got back 347 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,080 he beat the shit out of me because he said I was looking at the plumber. 348 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,080 Turds floating about in our kitchen, 349 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,960 and all he's interested in is me looking at the plumber. 350 00:27:22,120 --> 00:27:23,920 Why don't you leave him? 351 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,960 Why didn't you leave your husband? 352 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,880 That's...different. 353 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,280 So why did you stab him? 354 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,400 It's a lock. They've got nowhere to go. 355 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,120 Self defence doesn't play with checking out how much money you'll get. 356 00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:12,800 I'll take a statement from the daughter. Imagine what she's feeling. 357 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,880 - You off home, boss? - Yeah, yeah. 358 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,080 Why are you...? 359 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,800 What? 360 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,720 A DI taking a witness statement? 361 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,520 Well, she's 13 years old. 362 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,840 I don't want some baby PC doing it. 363 00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:30,720 Take Flo. 364 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,360 She went downstairs. 365 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,280 - 30 seconds. - She takes three knives from the kitchen. 366 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,520 Another 60 seconds. 367 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,040 She went back upstairs. 368 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,640 30 seconds more. That's two minutes. 369 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,560 And what does she do? 370 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:13,520 She had a nice sit down - in the interview she said for 371 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,640 "quite a long time." What's that? 372 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,280 Five minutes? More? 373 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,240 We're up to a minimum of ten minutes now. 374 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,080 This isn't spontaneous, is it? This is a cold-blooded bitch. 375 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,560 Why are you so angry about this one? 376 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,880 That poor girl was in there, Flo. 377 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,640 She pulled a knife out of her dad. 378 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,480 Why wouldn't I be angry? 379 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,880 Mum says you can sleep in here with me. 380 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,000 What shall we do? 381 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,280 Should we just talk? 382 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:03,840 OK. 383 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:54,520 You're awake. 384 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,400 What did your husband do to you? 385 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,520 Nothing. 386 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,240 Yeah but, what, though? 387 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,600 What does Jack say he did to you? 388 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,480 He raped me. 389 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,160 And he didn't? 390 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,200 They asked me. 391 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,720 And you said yes. 392 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,160 I didn't say no. 393 00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,920 You're here about your medication? 394 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:01,880 A Dr Rose contacted us. 395 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,440 These are different to what you were on before, 396 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,880 but they're fine to take with the pregnancy. 397 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,680 Do you want some water? 398 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:13,960 Well, let me see you take them. Open. 399 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,680 Good girl. Off you go. 400 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,280 Were her anti-depressants prescribed by you? 401 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,840 Yes. 402 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,600 What was the nature of her depression? 403 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,320 Sorry. I'm her doctor. 404 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,840 Why don't you talk to me as her friend? 405 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,640 Three years ago 406 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,960 she was stuck in a traffic jam and she needed to be home. 407 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,360 So she got out of the car and ran. 408 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,160 Door open. Engine running. 409 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,040 Traffic blocked. 410 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,120 Why? 411 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:51,040 Good question. She felt under pressure. 412 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,960 From what? 413 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,800 I've probably said enough. 414 00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,840 Joe said something in hospital before he lost consciousness. He said your name. 415 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,200 Why would he do that? 416 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,280 I don't know. 417 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,200 What kind of a witness do you think he'll make? 418 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,120 He's a barrister. He knows how to do that stuff. 419 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,160 Yes. 420 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,080 She's raw, she's angry, she hates her mum. 421 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:37,760 She's a brilliant witness. And all that softened by some therapy nonsense. 422 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,360 What a dump. 423 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:45,920 A multi-agency approach is... 424 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,960 This agency says to your agency, "Stop this bollocks." 425 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,800 - Don't let anyone speak to my witness who wants to change the way she thinks. - We think she has PTSD. 426 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,240 You think everyone has PTSD. 427 00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:59,760 What do you suggest? We leave her wrecked until the trial is over? 428 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,280 How much damage would that do to her? We should ask the lawyer. 429 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,400 Josh, can I have a word? 430 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:10,800 Therapy to treat PTSD in a 13-year-old girl whose mother is alleged to have stabbed her father. 431 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,440 Now or after the trial? 432 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,320 There's case law. Therapy now. 433 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,840 Anything else? 434 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:20,400 Why don't you ask yourselves how that poor girl is going to feel if Mum gets acquitted? 435 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,520 What kind of therapy do you give her then? 436 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,280 You knew, didn't you? The case law? 437 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,280 But what you've forgotten is that lawyers only give us advice. I get to decide. 438 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,360 Get on with it. 439 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,120 My job is to help you. 440 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,640 I'm going to talk to you about dealing with what has happened. 441 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,560 My mum tried to kill my dad. 442 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,240 What's there to talk about? 443 00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:09,560 Do you talk to anyone about it? 444 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,320 My best friend. 445 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,880 - What's your friend's name? - Kate. 446 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,880 What do you say to Kate about what happened? 447 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,480 Is it the same thing you just said to me? 448 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,640 - No. - Good. 449 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,520 On a scale of 1 to 10, 450 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,000 where 1's the lowest and 10's the highest... 451 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,440 ..where would you put the pain you feel about what's happened? 452 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:42,200 - 12. - I'm going to get that score right down. 453 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,240 I promise you. 454 00:37:43,240 --> 00:37:45,000 My dad will do that. 455 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,080 Why are we looking at Joe's life when we've got her sewn up? 456 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,000 What are they going to run? 457 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,320 "I was in such immediate fear of serious injury or death, 458 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,680 "that I had to check the life insurance, 459 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,760 "ponder my options for about five hours 460 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,400 "and then, completely in proportion with the very immediate threat 461 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,160 "that I was facing from my probably asleep husband, 462 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,200 "I stuck the biggest knife I could find in him up to the hilt." 463 00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:16,520 She was depressed. 464 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,680 - So she'll make a crap witness. - Too narrow. 465 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,720 You've focused in too tight, too soon. Context is everything. 466 00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:28,240 - What context? - Joe Miller had £600 in £20 notes in his trouser pocket the night he was stabbed. 467 00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:31,200 - One has some very interesting prints on it. - Whose? 468 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,280 - Crack dealer. - Hmmm. 469 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,480 It could have gone through dozens of hands before Joe got it. 470 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:40,160 Then you look at the Drug Squad surveillance log. 471 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,400 Why do you always want me to be your number two? 472 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,080 Every straight man needs a fool. 473 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,960 Keeping watch? 474 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,520 My boys are my family. 475 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,480 £600 in his trouser pocket. 476 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,560 - What was he doing with that kind of cash? - I gave it to him. 477 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,600 He was running the London Marathon. I sponsored him. 478 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,200 He kept a note of his sponsors in his brown book. It's not there. 479 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:24,080 Between you and me, I'm not too keen of a record of my financial life being kept. 480 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,880 Joe knows that. 481 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:32,320 - You're happy to say that in court? - I've told you, ain't I? 482 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:33,360 MOBILE RINGS 483 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,400 Is it a fixture? 484 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,880 Good. 485 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,280 Yes, he'll be available. 486 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,360 Armed robbery at the Bailey in July. 487 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,160 Joe's comeback case. 488 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:58,640 Excuse me. 489 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,360 What do you want? 490 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,400 My boss is interested in context. 491 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,960 - And you're not? - Did I say that? 492 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,480 Have you spoken to Ella? 493 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,440 - Not yet. - I'm her godfather. 494 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:27,920 Then look after her for us. 495 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,080 Always. 496 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,240 Where are you going? 497 00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:46,040 Styal. 498 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,520 - What? - It's another prison. 499 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,520 Why? 500 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,480 I dunno. They don't give you a reason. 501 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,000 It's just what they do. 502 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,360 AUDIO BOOK PLAYS QUIETLY 503 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,520 Mum. 504 00:41:49,240 --> 00:41:50,680 Mummy! 505 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,000 '..she should think herself very ill-used. 506 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,680 - 'It needed all Jane's steady mildness...' - Dad? 507 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,360 'When Miss Bingley's letter arrived, it put an end to doubt. 508 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,560 'The very first sentence conveyed the assurance 509 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,680 'of their being all settled in London for the winter, 510 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,200 'and concluded with her brother's regret at not having had time 511 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:29,640 'to pay his respects to his friends in Hertfordshire before he left the country. 512 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:35,040 'Hope was over, entirely over, and when Jane could attend to...' 513 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,360 Dad? 514 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,080 Dad! 515 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,160 Daddy! 516 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,840 - Dad! - Ella, wake up. 517 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:47,400 Ella. Dad! 518 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,840 Ella. Dad! 519 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,920 Ella. Ella. 520 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,320 Ella, wake up. Wake up. 521 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,600 It's all right. It's all right. 522 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,320 It's OK. It's OK. It's OK. 523 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:13,480 Bingo. 524 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,160 Jane? 525 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,680 Jane Grady. 526 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:24,480 - She said you said Joe didn't rape you, that you made it up to keep us happy. - Yes. 527 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,880 Yes, you said it? Or yes, it's true? 528 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:32,360 What she says is corroborated by the physical evidence, or lack of it. There is no sign of rape. 529 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,360 We're in trouble. 530 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,920 We can get at her - she's got form for dishonesty 531 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,200 and what she's getting in return is an interesting question, 532 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,920 but you've got to be straight with us, Juliet. 533 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,880 We really, badly want to help you. 534 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,560 We can't do it unless you start talking to us. 535 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,240 Sorry. 536 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,480 I don't think you're being dishonest. 537 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,520 I just think you're scared. 538 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,160 There's something you're not telling us. 539 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,600 He can't get to you any more. 540 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,640 There is something, isn't there? 541 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,440 'I'm saying this because I want what's best.' 542 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,000 That's all I care about. 543 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,400 Shutting things away never helps. 544 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,080 She's your mum. 545 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,000 I think you need to see her. 546 00:44:33,720 --> 00:44:35,720 It can be as short a visit as you like. 547 00:44:35,720 --> 00:44:38,000 This is not about her. 548 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,800 This is for you, Ella. 549 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,120 Six o'clock slap. 550 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:56,880 What? 551 00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,280 - I used to do my make-up at six. - Why? 552 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,200 For when he got home. 553 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,640 It upset him to see the damage he'd done to me, 554 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,680 so I covered it up for him. 555 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,440 Ah, yeah, you look great. 556 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,440 You go and see your daughter. 557 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,200 Yo! 558 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,360 - Was it Jane? - What? 559 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,080 That's what they do with grasses. 560 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,160 - Move them to keep them safe. - No. It wasn't Jane. 561 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,760 Want this visit or what? 562 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,040 Ella? 563 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,800 I'm so sorry. 564 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,760 I'm so, so sorry. 565 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,080 Please look at me. 566 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,800 Ella, please. 567 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,320 Why, Mum? 568 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,200 Dad was just trying to look after you. 569 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,040 My lovely girl. I did it for you. 570 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,160 Jack? 571 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,640 When? When can I call you? 572 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,280 What do you think? 573 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:18,800 Do you think I'll get bail? 574 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:33,520 What do you say about the confession in interview? 575 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,480 Don't look so surprised, Miss Klein. 576 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:41,680 Contrary to what you like to believe, some judges do read the papers before a hearing. 577 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:46,480 We'll be arguing that the interview is inadmissible because there was no solicitor present. 578 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,720 You mean she sounds cold-blooded 579 00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:50,640 and you'd rather the jury didn't hear it? 580 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,160 She was suffering from shock. 581 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,480 Well, I shall look forward to hearing your argument. Now. Bail. 582 00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:01,800 You're the trial judge? Has Joe Miller appeared in front of you? 583 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,320 Of course. Many times. 584 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:10,840 And I'm being very careful to exclude all personal considerations from my professional deliberations. 585 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,520 When do we all get your defence statement? 586 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:18,400 - We're working on it. - Fascinating to see what the defence will be. 587 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,040 Mr Holloway? Bail. 588 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:26,280 It's the Crown's view that there's a real fear of the defendant failing to attend her trial if granted bail. 589 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,840 The evidence is strong - she's unstable, she's depressed, 590 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,360 she's pregnant, she has nowhere to live. 591 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,600 Your Honour. All good reasons for granting her bail. 592 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,720 Where is a depressed, pregnant woman going to disappear to? 593 00:49:38,720 --> 00:49:41,480 - She doesn't have the wherewithal. - Where would she go? 594 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,160 There's a place in a hostel for battered women. 595 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,480 What evidence is there of that? 596 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,240 My solicitor spoke to the hostel this morning... 597 00:49:49,240 --> 00:49:51,000 Of her being a battered woman. 598 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,320 An eloquent silence, Miss Klein. 599 00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,520 I'm not going to grant this bail application. 600 00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,680 Of course, my ruling on bail doesn't mean that 601 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,080 I don't have an open mind on every issue 602 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,280 when this comes to trial. 603 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,880 Well, thank you, Your Honour. 604 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,960 If I can keep the personal out of court, Miss Klein, so can you. 605 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,240 How are the children, Mr Holloway? 606 00:50:20,240 --> 00:50:22,600 Fine, thank you, Your Honour. Good. 607 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,960 - I was his pupil. - Right. - Coffee? 608 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,360 Fuck off. 609 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,040 'Bail has been refused. 610 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:36,600 'I'm really sorry. 611 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:45,560 'Juliet, I've got to go. OK? 612 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,520 'Juliet?' 613 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:28,640 I wish I was pregnant. 614 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:34,720 Why? 615 00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:38,760 I like babies. 616 00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,080 Have you got children? 617 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:54,320 - Gone now. - Where? 618 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,600 Just gone. 619 00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,600 I was young. 620 00:52:09,720 --> 00:52:12,360 Do you want me to keep talking to you? 621 00:52:19,240 --> 00:52:20,280 Yes, please. 622 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:24,400 What names are you thinking of? 623 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:25,840 I don't know. 624 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,880 What names do you like? 625 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,760 I like Daniel for a boy. 626 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,000 And Sarah for a girl. 627 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,520 Do you reckon it will be a boy? 628 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:48,520 I think so. 629 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,600 - Are you all right? - Yes. 630 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:18,640 Thanks. 631 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:34,640 "If you ask for a promotion this week, you could get a positive answer." 632 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,880 Oi! Grass. 633 00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,080 What? 634 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:41,480 ANGELA SCREAMS 635 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,600 Help! HELP! 636 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,720 The sugar in the water means it sticks to the skin and it won't cool down. 637 00:53:55,720 --> 00:53:59,720 The pain goes on and on. Who did this? 638 00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,040 BEEPING 639 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,920 BP is falling. 640 00:54:10,720 --> 00:54:12,000 Are we all right, Alex? 641 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,600 - Heart rate's up at 130. - 250 mils of Voluven. 642 00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:20,840 Lungs OK. 643 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,920 Slow down. He's not going anywhere. 644 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,320 Ready? 645 00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:37,400 FRANTIC BEEPING 646 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:40,960 CONTINUOUS BEEP 647 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,960 No, Daddy? Daddy! 648 00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,480 No, Daddy. 649 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,040 Daddy, no! 650 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:09,880 What is it? 651 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,280 It's your husband. 652 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:16,800 I'm afraid he's dead. 653 00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:55,240 Thanks. 654 00:56:30,240 --> 00:56:31,440 I can't... 655 00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,040 Please, no... 656 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:43,000 Anna. It's a murder now. 657 00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,400 You go into that courtroom and you let that jury know 658 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,720 that you are your father's daughter. 659 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,520 - Push! - I'm finding you a place on a mother and baby unit. 660 00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,480 You go in front of a board to decide if you are suitable. 661 00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,440 If you are so convinced that Juliet Miller is a murderer, 662 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,120 why are you against me looking at Joe? 663 00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,560 He's not in charge any more. You are. 664 00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:20,360 You can tell us about your dad. How much you miss him. 665 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,960 I don't think I can go on without my baby. 666 00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,720 Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd 667 00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,760 E-mail subtitling@bbc.co.uk 47499

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