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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,200 This is the story of whisky 2 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,000 and I start it right here in the heart of Tokyo. 3 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,880 Around these streets are bars crammed with people 4 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:20,640 imbibing the amber liquid. 5 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:22,560 It will be a fascinating journey, 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:27,080 so come with me as I tell the story of Scotland's gift to the world. 7 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,360 I'm going on a pilgrimage to find out why such a simple drink 8 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,400 has come to mean so much. 9 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,600 Hi. My name's Jim. I'm from Scotland. 10 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,840 From the makers, to the marketeers, 11 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,120 and the chemists to the cocktail makers, 12 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,240 and from the Highlands, to Hobart in Tasmania... 13 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,600 ..I'll be meeting the people and travelling to the places 14 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,480 immersed in Scottish whisky's world story. 15 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:01,600 This is the tale of an ancient craft that became a global colossus. 16 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:03,400 It is the tale of Scotch. 17 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,640 Isn't it grand that this stuff's made in Scotland? 18 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,440 Aye, true. 19 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,360 Today, we treat Scotch whisky with reverence. 20 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,960 Yet, as recently as the late 1970s, 21 00:01:28,960 --> 00:01:31,240 it was viewed altogether differently. 22 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:32,840 When people thought of Scotch, 23 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,440 they thought of old-fashioned, untrendy, blended whiskies. 24 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,360 It was something of a safe, boring choice. 25 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,160 Here - what your granda drank at Hogmanay, 26 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,520 and abroad - ignored in favour of domestic spirits. 27 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,680 By the early 1980s, too much was being made for not enough drinkers, 28 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,200 creating a whisky loch of untouched liquid. 29 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,080 Many distilleries closed. 30 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,040 Then the industry recovered on the back of an unlikely source - 31 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,680 single malts. 32 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,320 Marketing was once more at the forefront 33 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,440 via a bottle label vision of Scotland sold to the world. 34 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,280 Now malts are booming, desirable and collectable, 35 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,600 and provoke global interest in Scotland. 36 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:20,400 On Edinburgh's Royal Mile stands the building symbolic of this intrigue. 37 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:23,800 The Scotch Whisky Experience 38 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,520 is funded by a cluster of drinks companies. 39 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,960 Among its greatest attractions is a breathtaking hoard of bottles. 40 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:35,400 This marble and glass shrine to whisky 41 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:40,120 contains 3,348 bottles, 42 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,520 and it is a magnificent collection. 43 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,880 It was collected by one man - 44 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,080 Claive Vidiz, a Brazilian from Sao Paulo. 45 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,440 It took him 35 years to collect, 46 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,840 and then he came to a financial arrangement with Diageo, 47 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,280 and Diageo brought the collection here to Scotland. 48 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,280 And as Mr Vidiz himself says... 49 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,360 "We have an expression in Brazil - 50 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,520 "a good son returns home, and, in my view, 51 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,040 "the collection is back with its family now." 52 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:07,680 And here is Mr Vidiz. 53 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:22,480 This is where it all began. 54 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,360 He was well-known as being a real lover of Scotch whisky. 55 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,600 And business associates would always 56 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,640 pick up a bottle in duty-free for him. 57 00:03:29,640 --> 00:03:33,360 But finally a business associate went to visit him from Scotland, 58 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,720 and said, "This is real stuff. 59 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,040 "This is the stuff you'll never have heard of. 60 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,440 "It's called single malt Scotch whisky. 61 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,320 "And this is the stuff to keep and enjoy 62 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,240 "with only your very best friends." 63 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,840 What date was this? So this was in the 1970s. 64 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,680 And really only blended Scotch whisky 65 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,240 was exported at the time. 66 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,280 It was very, very hard to find anything else. 67 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:56,760 So these six bottles here were given to Claive then, 68 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,200 and, rather than sharing them with his very best friends, 69 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,360 he was so overwhelmed and so passionate about them 70 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,200 that he never opened them. 71 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,240 And this began the Scotch Whisky collection. 72 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,360 Now, people come from all over the world to view this, don't they? 73 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:12,640 That's right. 74 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,880 About 80% of the visitors that come here are from overseas. 75 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:20,600 So it just reflects the huge pull that Scotch whisky has, 76 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,360 and the kudos that it has from an international point of view. 77 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,320 So they come because they love whisky in the first place? 78 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,680 Well... They don't just pop in on a rainy day and think, 79 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,760 "Where should we go in Edinburgh?" Well, you know, 80 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,400 they don't come because they already know and love Scotch whisky. 81 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,440 Most of our visitors are from overseas, 82 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,920 have heard of Scotch whisky, know what it is, 83 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,200 but aren't already Scotch whisky drinkers. 84 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,640 So a small proportion of them love it, are enthusiasts, 85 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,400 and know about this collection and have made a bit of a pilgrimage, 86 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,040 but the majority of them have come to Scotland, 87 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,520 and there is no way that they could visit Scotland 88 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,920 without finding out more about Scotch whisky 89 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,800 because the two are so intrinsically linked. 90 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,920 You've got a Black Bowmore from 1964. 91 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:02,640 What on earth is that worth? 92 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,440 You've focused in on one of those bottles that is completely unique, 93 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:06,800 really rare... 94 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,360 Only sold at auction. 95 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,080 But, equally, we have the opposite end of the spectrum. 96 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,520 We even have whisky and cola in a can. 97 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,720 So there's nothing too precious about this. 98 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,240 It's a snapshot of every single bottle of whisky that was different, 99 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,160 that was individual, that was unique, 100 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,200 and that was collected over that period. 101 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,040 So, if you were to put a figure on the Black Bowmore, what would it be? 102 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:28,800 Tens of thousands now. 103 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,720 Seriously? Yeah. Yeah. 104 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,760 One of those ones that goes very well at auction. 105 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,120 The Scotch Whisky experience is, in itself, 106 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:41,920 a giant display cabinet for an industry and, in turn, a country. 107 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,000 Yet the rise of Scotch as a tourist magnet 108 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,840 is a recent phenomenon. 109 00:05:46,840 --> 00:05:50,880 In the 1980s, there were very few distillery visitor centres, 110 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,400 and now there's round about 50 distilleries 111 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,280 that you can visit as a tourist to Scotland. 112 00:05:56,280 --> 00:05:59,160 That has been a huge change in the whisky landscape. 113 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,080 It is reckoned that, in 2015 alone, 114 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,680 1.5 million people visited Scotland's distilleries, 115 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,920 spending £50 million. 116 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,680 It is not only large established distilleries that they visit... 117 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,800 Places that have been making whisky for centuries 118 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,360 now face a challenge from dynamic small-scale upstarts 119 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,800 like Strathearn Distillery in Perthshire. 120 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,080 Over the last few years, there's been a quiet revolution 121 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,280 happening in the whisky industry in Scotland. 122 00:06:28,280 --> 00:06:30,400 And that is the fact that we currently have 123 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,440 about 20 small craft distilleries, 124 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,080 with another 10 waiting to be operational. 125 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,560 They make whisky in the old style, 126 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,920 when whisky was made in a small room, 127 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,120 or a little but and ben, a croft, 128 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,640 or a barn somewhere in a Highland glen. 129 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,440 And it's a bit like the craft beer revolution 130 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,760 that's really exploded over the United Kingdom 131 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,320 in the last few years, 132 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,880 and it's really going to make a radical difference 133 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,400 to whisky and our choices. 134 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:56,840 I'm standing in front 135 00:06:56,840 --> 00:07:00,800 of what is probably the smallest craft distillery in Scotland. 136 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,000 Welcome, David, to the smallest distillery in Scotland. 137 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,360 This is a dinky little thing, Tony. 138 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,240 It's a miniature whisky distillery. 139 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:19,000 It's also a bit like an adult's Meccano kit. 140 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,600 This is a prime example of a small craft distillery, isn't it? 141 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,200 There's currently 16 producing. 142 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,040 We were the first. 143 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:28,880 We had a meeting here because 144 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,320 so many people were asking me questions, 145 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,440 and I said, "Well, let's get together." 146 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,800 And we had 50 people turn up. 147 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,320 And it's not just whisky. 148 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,440 There's whisky, there's gin, there's vodka, 149 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:44,120 there is a rum distillery in the heart of Speyside. 150 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:45,560 LAUGHING: I love it! 151 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,040 Just because a distillery is small, 152 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:52,200 it doesn't necessarily make it well crafted. 153 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:53,880 But some of the small distillers 154 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,000 are producing products of astonishing interest, 155 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,920 astonishing versatility. 156 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:03,120 Not all will survive. There will be a shake-out of that sector. 157 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,720 But craft is certainly adding a lot of interest, 158 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,640 it's adding a lot of vivacity, 159 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,720 and it's adding a lot of choice for the consumer, 160 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,640 so, on balance, it can only be good. 161 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,640 Craft is a tricky word. 162 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:15,880 What is craft? 163 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,600 Is it doing 20,000 litres a year 164 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,400 and not more than that? 165 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,880 Is it using old equipment? 166 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,440 Old methods? 167 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:27,760 It's a tricky definition, 168 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,520 but if we're talking about the kind of impact they can have 169 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,680 on the industry then I think the biggest impact 170 00:08:32,680 --> 00:08:35,760 doesn't come from volumes, obviously, because they are small. 171 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,400 I think it comes from the way they try to innovate. 172 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,680 I love that because some of the big companies are too busy, 173 00:08:43,680 --> 00:08:46,480 too concerned to produce large volumes 174 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:51,360 to keep their stockholders satisfied. 175 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:55,440 I think that the emergence of craft distilleries 176 00:08:55,440 --> 00:09:00,440 has built this new layer into the industry, which is great. 177 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,280 It's driving a lot of innovation. 178 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:07,640 Sometimes that can be at odds with the tradition of Scotch, which is, 179 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,320 you know, rightly protected. 180 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,400 We've been making great whisky here for hundreds of years. 181 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,320 We'll carry on making great whisky, 182 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:18,800 but if we can all operate under one banner more, 183 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:23,560 if companies can work together more from opposite ends of the spectrum, 184 00:09:23,560 --> 00:09:27,520 then I think that can only be of benefit to the rest of the industry. 185 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,440 Tony, are you a threat to the big boys? 186 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,440 Not at all. You're creating very, very special whisky. 187 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,840 Probably the best way to sum up this distillery is... 188 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:42,120 if you drive up the A9, and you overtake a single whisky tanker, 189 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,200 that's our year's production. 190 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,000 In one tanker. 191 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,360 What we do supply to the big industry 192 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,680 is a comparable quality product, 193 00:09:50,680 --> 00:09:53,520 and quality is the link between both of us. 194 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:58,440 So the big distilleries produce millions of litres a year, 195 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,880 but you couldn't lean against the stills like this 196 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,080 and have a conversation. No, you couldn't. 197 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,360 You couldn't turn the steam up slightly while we're doing it. 198 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:10,440 People can come here and spend a week making their own whisky. 199 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,440 They can come in on the Monday morning, 200 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,720 and put the grist into the grist hopper, 201 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,480 and, on the Friday, after two distillations, 202 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,320 they can make their own whisky. 203 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,080 There is clearly excitement about the craft movement, 204 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,800 and it bristles with possibility. 205 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,240 Whether, in the long term, 206 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,080 each new distillery is financially viable, though, 207 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:36,960 remains open to debate. 208 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,080 You need to have very deep pockets, 209 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:46,760 and a very understanding bank manager 210 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,000 if you want to open a distillery. 211 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,600 You know, it's got to be three years old 212 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,480 before you can even call it whisky, 213 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,360 and, while people might want to buy 214 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,400 your whisky when it's three years old, 215 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,200 because it's exciting and it's new, 216 00:10:58,200 --> 00:10:59,800 when that whisky is seven years old, 217 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,560 people are going, "I've tried that. 218 00:11:01,560 --> 00:11:03,800 "I'm going to wait until it's better." 219 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,880 It might be perfectly good at seven years old, 220 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,280 but, you know, received wisdom is that it only really matures 221 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:13,400 when it's 10 or 12 years old. But it's really, really tough. 222 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:14,600 The big multinationals 223 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,760 are going to watch the ones that float to the top, 224 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,840 that are producing very high quality product. 225 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,120 They might then suddenly try and snap them up. 226 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,680 There might be some that are very adamant and stick to their ways, 227 00:11:23,680 --> 00:11:26,800 and say they'll be fiercely independent until the day they die. 228 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,600 But then if somebody's offering you a huge sum of money, 229 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,840 it's very hard for some people to turn that down. 230 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:33,840 So I think that may be what happens. 231 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,560 Those producing very high quality product will get snapped up. 232 00:11:37,560 --> 00:11:39,960 Craft distilleries are just one thread 233 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:44,480 among many to the traditional and dominant Scotch whisky industry. 234 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,000 Whisky is now made in almost 30 countries. 235 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,880 Old Scottish methods are making for a vibrant scene 236 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,200 biting at the heels of Scotch whisky. 237 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:59,240 Everywhere whisky's enjoyed, it seems, it is now being made. 238 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,160 Despite the refined nature of this exquisite drink, 239 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:07,200 Scotch is in a fierce global competition for hearts and drams. 240 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:11,600 There are pretenders to Scotland's throne across the world. 241 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,000 Even here. 242 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:15,720 Cheeky bastards. 243 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,840 Andrew Nelstrop comes from a Norfolk farming dynasty 244 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,920 who have put their abundant barley to good use. 245 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,000 Farming sets you up well for having a distillery. 246 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,160 They are both long-term businesses. 247 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,640 Everything you do on the land, if you like, 248 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,280 is designed for generations in the future. 249 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:38,760 The same goes for whisky. 250 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:42,160 Do you know what the Greek definition of wisdom is? Go on. 251 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,360 Wisdom is old men planting trees 252 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,600 under whose shade they will never sit. 253 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,600 That's the same with whisky. 254 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,880 Beautiful. You're making whisky that you'll probably never taste. 255 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,720 You don't have the hills, 256 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,200 you don't have the glens, 257 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,000 you don't have the peat, 258 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,400 you don't have the wonderful soft rain 259 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,040 that comes off the Atlantic and falls on Scotland, 260 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,480 and yet here we are, in the heart of England, 261 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,040 and you're making bloody whisky! Now that's a damn cheek. 262 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:08,800 But we do have... Where do you get your...? 263 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,720 We have all the barley. 264 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,200 We have the largest peat digs in the whole of the UK, 265 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,120 which is the Norfolk Broads. Uh-huh. We've got the water. 266 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,600 We've got the cleanest, largest, freshest source of water 267 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,800 underneath your feet. You don't really need anything else, do we? 268 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,160 Apart from rain. We don't need rain. 269 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,600 You can have some of ours if you want. Yeah. 270 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,320 We've got plenty of it! 271 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,840 My father had always wanted to make whisky, 272 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:39,760 purely because of one conversation he had back when he was a lad. 273 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,840 It was... My grandfather, the story goes, said, 274 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,920 "It's such a shame. We've got all this barley 275 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,680 "and it has to go to Scotland to be turned into something useful." 276 00:13:47,680 --> 00:13:49,440 And it just stuck. 277 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,640 You know, my father, he farmed in Russia, Australia, 278 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,200 he went all over the place doing different things. 279 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,680 But, every year, he went, "I just need to build a distillery." 280 00:13:57,680 --> 00:13:59,560 So it was his dream? Absolutely. 281 00:13:59,560 --> 00:14:01,400 A lifelong dream. So, when he turned 60, 282 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,640 and he was going, "Oh, we need to build a distillery", 283 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,320 I think the rest of the family just went, "Ugh, do what you like!" 284 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:08,520 THEY LAUGH 285 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,560 Upstarts like yourself, 286 00:14:10,560 --> 00:14:12,920 do you think you're any serious threat 287 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:14,760 to the Scotch whisky industry? 288 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,120 Are you nibbling away...? I think it's going to be a while 289 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,080 before we buy Diageo! But... 290 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,560 THEY LAUGH 291 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,120 Another generation, maybe. 292 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,080 There's ambition for you! 293 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,760 I think, in terms of quality, we can equal them. 294 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,600 I don't think that's an issue. I think... 295 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,440 And I don't think that's me going, "Our whisky can." 296 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:39,080 I think any nation's whisky can equal anybody else's, 297 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,040 because each distillery is unique. 298 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,480 So, if the owners want to do it properly, 299 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,960 they can make blooming good whisky. 300 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,800 In terms of volume, we are never going to compete. 301 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:50,720 Andrew, every distillery I go to, 302 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,960 and certainly this is much more true now 303 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,960 than it was maybe 10, 15 years ago... 304 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,280 Every distillery has a visitor centre, 305 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,320 and it seems to be an important point of revenue for them. 306 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:01,680 Yes. It is. 307 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,520 It's not just spreading the word. 308 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,400 It's about bringing in hard-earned cash. It is. 309 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:10,160 It's incredibly useful in terms of spreading the word, 310 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,120 getting a loyal following... 311 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,760 "Come and see it. See the distillery. Meet the people." 312 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,080 It's a great story. 313 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,080 For new distilleries opening, like ourselves, 314 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,640 the gin boys and vodka boys have got it easy. 315 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,440 You can make the stuff yesterday, sell it today. 316 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,880 There's no cash flow issues there. 317 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:29,480 Whereas, the world of whisky - 318 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,560 make it today, sell it in three, five, ten years' time. 319 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,120 There is a slight need for another source of income, 320 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,440 which brings you down to having a shop 321 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,760 and selling everything from bottles of your own whisky, 322 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:42,320 to tea, coffee and cake. 323 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,040 And, yeah, it's a good source of income 324 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,320 and I think it's a nice day out for people. 325 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:53,240 Scotland's biggest whisky rival, however, is much further east. 326 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,480 Over the last few years, the world of whisky 327 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,600 has been rocked by a number of Japanese whiskies 328 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,920 winning critical acclaim and awards worldwide. 329 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,160 Whisky's story has taken us halfway around the world. 330 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,680 I'm now in the far north of Japan. 331 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,960 If you fly that way, you hit Russia. 332 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,160 We're probably on the same latitude as Vladivostok. 333 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,560 Now, it's been a lovely, sunny day, but, from November till March, 334 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,440 this place is blanketed in snow and well below freezing. 335 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,280 And, in the distance, 336 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:36,200 you can see the scarlet chimneys that cap the Yoichi distillery, 337 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:37,680 the home of Nikka Whisky. 338 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:43,040 And it seems very remote from a Highland glen, but this place - 339 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:48,240 the story of this place - is firmly rooted in a true Scottish romance. 340 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:00,680 In 1918, 24-year-old Masataka Taketsuru 341 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,320 left Japan for Scotland. 342 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,720 He was to study the chemistry and production of Scotch whisky 343 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,600 with the aim of replicating it in Japan. 344 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,320 Masataka served apprenticeships 345 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,720 at a number of Scottish distilleries, 346 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,240 learning every craft of the trade. 347 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,360 He fell in love with whisky, 348 00:17:19,360 --> 00:17:24,560 but also with a Scottish girl - Rita Cowan from Kirkintilloch. 349 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,200 Rita and Masataka toured Scotland 350 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,120 picking up more secrets of the Scotch trade. 351 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,960 When they arrived here in Japan in 1920, 352 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,800 it was to set up home as man and wife. 353 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:39,520 Together, in 1934, 354 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,880 they put their expertise into practice 355 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,160 and founded this place, Yoichi distillery, 356 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:46,800 choosing these surroundings 357 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,320 for their echoes of the Scottish Highlands. 358 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,760 They were married for 41 years 359 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,240 until Rita's death in 1961. 360 00:17:56,360 --> 00:18:01,240 Masataka was to become known as the father of Japanese whisky. 361 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,760 'Author Dave Broom is here at Yoichi 362 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,800 'researching a book on Japanese whisky.' 363 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,480 Dave, how does Japanese whisky differ from Scotch? 364 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,440 Well, it's made in exactly the same way. 365 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:29,920 So, if you go round the distillery, 366 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,760 you'll see essentially the same kit. 367 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,960 But there's a whole number of different factors 368 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,520 that make it Japanese. 369 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,360 One of them is to do with the production. 370 00:18:38,360 --> 00:18:40,640 They run very clear wort, rather than cloudy wort, 371 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,720 so they don't get any cereal characters coming through. 372 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,840 So it's not as dry as Scotch whisky. 373 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,200 And there's more of a, kind of, delicate intensity, 374 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,040 which seems paradoxical, but there's... 375 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,080 I describe it as a transparency of character. 376 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,120 If you think of a Scotch single malt, 377 00:18:57,120 --> 00:18:59,000 it's like a bit of a Scottish burn. 378 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,240 You know, all the flavours are, kind of, moving around. 379 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,960 It's hard to work out exactly what's going on. 380 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,320 It's complex. Whereas, with Japanese whisky, 381 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:07,720 it's like a clear pool. 382 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,520 You can see all the flavours. 383 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:13,000 Everything's just laid out in a very stately and ordered way. 384 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,560 So it's got this... 385 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,800 That's very symptomatic of Japanese culture. 386 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,680 I think that's the point. 387 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,480 From the word go, Japanese whisky was made to go with Japanese food. 388 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,840 If you think of the way the Japanese approach food, 389 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,080 it's all about texture, and it's also delicacy. 390 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,640 If you're making a whisky to go with that food, 391 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,440 you're almost automatically going to be in that world. 392 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,080 And there's a real cultural resonance 393 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,400 to Japanese whisky that ties in 394 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:42,840 with the approach to ceramics, to artwork, or to papermaking. 395 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,640 I think it's all part of this Japanese culture. 396 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,840 It's a very powerful and very, very deep whisky. 397 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,680 And it's significantly different to Scotch, you know? 398 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,400 If I gave you two glasses blind, 399 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,280 and gave you one of Scotch, one of Japanese, you would say, 400 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:57,840 "Well, that's different." 401 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,480 So they make the best Japanese whisky in the world. 402 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,960 My mother is in a walking group, and I was listening 403 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,120 to this conversation with one of the walkers. 404 00:20:05,120 --> 00:20:06,600 And she was about 80 years old. 405 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,840 And she doesn't drink whisky. She drinks gin. 406 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,760 And someone was telling her about the fact that Japanese whisky 407 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,520 had just won a prize for being the best whisky in the world, 408 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,000 and she was ABSOLUTELY outraged. 409 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,440 "How would they know how to make whisky? 410 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,240 "How would they know what they were doing? 411 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:22,640 "That's just ridiculous! 412 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,480 "I mean, they don't have the water! How can they be making whisky?" 413 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,000 And I just thought, "But you don't even drink whisky, Doreen! 414 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,000 "You drink gin. You don't like whisky!" 415 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,760 But, for her, it was like a personal insult 416 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,600 that the Japanese were making what she thinks is her drink... 417 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,240 that she doesn't like. 418 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,080 Japanese public broadcaster HNK 419 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,080 recently broadcast a 60-part drama 420 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,840 about Yoichi's founding sweethearts. 421 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:49,480 It has led to the distillery becoming besieged by visitors. 422 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,640 This is a living link between the two countries 423 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,400 and this drink. 424 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,960 You are the chief blender here. Mm-hm. 425 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,720 How important is the influence of Scotch whisky 426 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,680 and how it's made to how you make whisky here? 427 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,160 The production of whisky may be similar in Scotland and Japan, 428 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,680 but here it is enjoyed rather differently. 429 00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:43,160 The market went into serious decline 430 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,040 and companies were trying everything. 431 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,600 They were flavouring whiskies, they were lightening them up, 432 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,560 they were doing this, they were doing that, 433 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,920 and the young generation just turned their back on it, 434 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,400 and, eventually, they went, 435 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,520 "Oh, hang on a minute, there's this old drink 436 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:56,560 "called whisky soda." 437 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,280 Or the highball, as it's known over here. 438 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,200 And they began promoting the highball, 439 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,360 and, all of a sudden, everybody began drinking it. 440 00:23:02,360 --> 00:23:04,560 You can get it on tap. I'm a big, big fan of the highball. 441 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,560 It's gone right back... I think I will take some convincing. 442 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,040 Ach, well, you see, it's going right back to the origins 443 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,680 of people drinking whisky in the mass market. 444 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,680 The reason that Scotch blends took off 445 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,320 at the end of the 19th century 446 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,400 was because people were drinking them as whisky and soda. 447 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,840 You know? And the reason why Japanese whisky took off 448 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,320 in the 1960s was because they were drinking it diluted, 449 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,560 just whisky and water. 450 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,920 We're actually just going right back to the beginning again. 451 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,720 Before leaving Sapporo, 452 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,120 I'm joining Dave Broom on a pilgrimage to the shared grave 453 00:23:44,120 --> 00:23:47,240 of Masataka Taketsuru and Rita Cowan, 454 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,920 and leaving a traditional liquid offering. 455 00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:09,320 800 miles south in Tokyo, there is another little corner of Scotland - 456 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,600 a wee backstreet bar called the Helmsdale. 457 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,360 Masaki. Yes. 458 00:24:14,360 --> 00:24:16,600 We are sitting here in the most beautiful bar 459 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,400 I've ever been in in my life. 460 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,720 I think it is now my favourite bar. And we're in the heart of Tokyo. 461 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,520 A Scotch whisky bar. 462 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,160 How did this happen? 463 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,760 But how did you meet Scottish people? 464 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,800 How did you first drink whisky? 465 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,920 Now, your bar is called the Helmsdale. 466 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,720 How did that happen? Why? 467 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,600 What are the most popular whiskies? 468 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,840 Very popular. 469 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,920 Do you think Scottish whisky, Scotch whisky, 470 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,760 is under threat from Japanese whisky, 471 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,440 Indian whisky, Tasmanian whisky? 472 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,920 We will never beat you, but we have the same heart. 473 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,320 We will try our best, but, you know.... 474 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,760 we will keep trying. A very poetic answer. 475 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,240 I love it. 476 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,520 Leaving Japan behind, I'm heading south to another whisky hotbed. 477 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,640 Australia, and specifically, Tasmania. 478 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,360 With sprawling hills, thick clouds and crashing sea, 479 00:26:14,360 --> 00:26:16,080 this could easily be Scotland. 480 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,320 Across the bay from me is the charming city of Hobart, 481 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,600 nestling at the foot of Mount Wellington. 482 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,960 And on this captivating island, it cradles 14 distilleries, 483 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,480 with more on the way. 484 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,360 In fact, it's the heartbeat of the Australian whisky industry. 485 00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:35,200 A growing power to behold. 486 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,640 This is Lark Distillery. 487 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,520 The cherished creation of 488 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,040 Bill Lark, godfather of Australian whisky. 489 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,120 Chris, in many ways, we couldn't be further from Scotland. 490 00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:51,600 We are at the other side of the world, in the beautiful island of 491 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,440 Tasmania, and here, you have something like 492 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,520 14 distilleries in production and 493 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,440 you're developing at least another half dozen. 494 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,520 Are you the cheeky young upstarts of the whisky industry? 495 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,200 I think you could call us a bit of a larrikin bunch. 496 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,320 We love our whisky and we discovered 497 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,960 that Tasmania's a great place to make 498 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,960 it and so we're doing our utmost to produce a good drop for the world. 499 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,720 Well, you've been very successful. 500 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,560 A few of them have been winning world awards, haven't they? 501 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,800 Yes. We've been very fortunate, 502 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:28,640 both in England and also in the US we've won a number of awards. 503 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,800 And that's really encouraged us to 504 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,080 keep doing what we're doing and focus 505 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:37,320 on the quality. We are trying to make really quality whisky 506 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:42,480 and our volumes are not great, so it's about quality, not quantity. 507 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,960 When Bill Lark wanted to start a whisky distillery, 508 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,920 there'd been no commercial whisky distillery in Australia 509 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,200 for 153 years. 510 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,960 Federal law had made it impossible for small distilleries to operate. 511 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,720 So before he could even start, 512 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:03,960 he had to change government federal law to get his licence and so we are 513 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:08,040 actually the first licensed commercial distillery in Australia. 514 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,520 Lark operates on a far smaller scale than most distilleries in Scotland. 515 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,720 It's so titchy in size. 516 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,480 If you compare this to something like The Macallan. 517 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,560 I love the size, it's whisky in miniature. 518 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,760 And they're taking over the world, the bastards. 519 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:59,480 Craig, a Scotsman, and Chris, a native, are distillers here. 520 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,720 I'll be honest, I got here 18 months ago and I walked into the place and 521 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,000 I thought, "Where's the rest of the distillery?" 522 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,040 It's tiny. The scale is crazy. 523 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,960 I mean, we talk about hand-crafted back in Scotland, 524 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,480 and you're talking 250-300,000 litres. 525 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,160 Here, we make 120 litres a day, 526 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,480 so we can actually handcraft everything at the distillery. 527 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,120 We ferment different to back in Scotland, 528 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,360 we make all of our cuts here by how the spirit tastes. 529 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,320 We've got a longer fermentation than you have in most places back home. 530 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:29,840 We've got seven days. 531 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,160 But really, the big one for us is 532 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,800 coming to the end of the fermentation. 533 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,960 Based on how it tastes, we'll actually open the lid and let the 534 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,200 natural bacteria from the vineyard up the road into the ferments and 535 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:40,520 that sours up the... 536 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,680 Of course, you have the bacteria in the air already! 537 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,320 So... Because this is vineyard country, isn't it? 538 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,880 Absolutely. So Frogmore, our pals up the road, 539 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,920 make some of the best wine here. Some of the best pinots in Tasmania. 540 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,480 And we get all the benefit from that 541 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,640 culture, from those yeasts and bacteria. 542 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,280 So the whisky that you guys have created, 543 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:58,720 when will it be ready for sale? 544 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,840 We are looking at about six to seven year maturation in quarter cask. 545 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,400 So something Tasmania has, 546 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,320 we have this really unique climate where we have a huge temperature 547 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,320 variation from 2-3 degrees to about 40 degrees. 548 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,040 What happens, that fluctuates every 549 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,840 day and the pressure fluctuates every day. 550 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,120 That really drives the spirit in and out of the wood and drives 551 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,640 that angel's share so 552 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,680 we've got a really quite high angel's share here, seven degrees. 553 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,240 Our strength usually goes up, so we might get a spirit coming... 554 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,440 So what percentage will you lose every year? 555 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,120 About 7%. 7%? A year? 556 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:30,520 7%, every year. 557 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,320 Guys, I've said that Tasmanian whisky... 558 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,120 You're winning the awards, the whisky awards around the world, 559 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,800 you're the cheeky young upstarts. 560 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,440 How much debt do you owe to the Scotch whisky industry? 561 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,400 So much, so much. 562 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,440 I don't think the industry here would be... 563 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:52,560 ..in any strength without the year on year, on year, on year help from 564 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,400 the Scottish industry. We've been so lucky with their generosity. 565 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,360 We talked before about that sense of community. 566 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,440 It is not a community, in Tasmania, 567 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,680 or Hobart, or Australia, or Scotland, 568 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,640 or Japan, it truly is this global, 569 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,840 global community and really you feel that. 570 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,920 Like, you go to Scotland and you ask a question and you get a 571 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,640 genuine, passionate answer. 572 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,120 Yeah, we are indebted to the Scottish industry. 573 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,680 This place wouldn't be what it is without Scotland. 574 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,160 We are essentially living in 575 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,280 the Australian version of what Glenlivet was in 1850. 576 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,440 And I think if you said to any distiller back in Scotland, you 577 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,080 know, if you could go back to 1850 and work in Glenlivet and see 578 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,080 how things started, would you take that choice? 579 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,720 Every single one of them would. 580 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,960 We are still mashing by hand with a paddle here. 581 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:37,200 We've essentially brought whisky forward into the 1800s at Lark! 582 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,520 So to be in this position, but then also to be able to call on 583 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,840 the history and the mistakes that have been 584 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,400 made by the Japanese and the Scots and the Americans in their 585 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,800 whisky-making process, puts us in a unique position. 586 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,560 We've got hundreds of years of experience to call upon and then we 587 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,440 can create our own story from that. 588 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,920 There are stories that people expect to see when they buy 589 00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,560 into a whisky. 590 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,840 So in Scotland, 591 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,040 we can sometimes be a little bit trapped by that and that's how 592 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,280 people get to love this stuff. 593 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,080 On the other, you've got countries 594 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,000 in the rest of the world that are now 595 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:17,000 making whiskies and can almost be a bit more creative in how they come 596 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,920 about that and the sort of offering they can present. 597 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,920 The competition element I think is brilliant, 598 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,200 because any good athlete or performer is going to say, 599 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,040 your best performances come when you're under the most pressure. 600 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,360 So, you know, we are kept on our toes by the growth around the world, 601 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,320 but I think that's a pretty good thing. 602 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,800 We've talked for a long time about what is whisky. 603 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:40,000 It's an experience. It only becomes whisky once someone puts it in their 604 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,800 glass and they drink it, they experience it with their mates. 605 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,240 It's on the most important days of your life that you drink whisky. 606 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,360 Some people, it really is on the most important days and they choose 607 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,200 to share that with you as distillers. 608 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,440 It's people that get to be the caretaker of a distillery or 609 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,120 process, and that's what it's about. 610 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,160 It's about understanding that if you're not spot on your game every 611 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,120 day, then you're not doing justice to that person that got that bottle 612 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:11,040 for their wedding, or maybe for their divorce or to commiserate over 613 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,080 a loved one's death. That's what drives 614 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,320 that get better, get better, get better. 615 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,640 And that's what whisky's about, you're right. 616 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,440 It's about people. It's always been about people. 617 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:27,080 It's about community and people and you can't help but love the spirit, 618 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,440 because the people are wonderful. 619 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,960 Wow, Chris! That's the most beautiful, 620 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,040 poetic description I've ever heard. 621 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:52,080 Sullivans Cove is another of Tasmania's flourishing distilleries. 622 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,760 Its architecture and design is somewhat more functional than that 623 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,160 of a Scottish distillery. 624 00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:02,240 The idea of making whisky came along, at first, 625 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,760 I thought it was a bit of a crazy idea, to make whisky here in 626 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,200 Tasmania. Where did it come from? Well, Bill Lark. 627 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,320 Bill and Lyn Lark, actually. 628 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,080 But I can remember him trying to sell the idea to us up 629 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,600 at the pub one night. 630 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:22,280 And how him and his father had been up in the lakes here fishing 631 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,000 and they were drinking a bottle of 632 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,960 whisky and wondering why we don't make 633 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,640 whisky in Tasmania, we've got the climate, we've got the water, 634 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,560 we've got the barley. Everything's here. 635 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,000 You've got the peat. Got the peat. 636 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,080 We've got everything we need. Why don't we do it? 637 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,160 And so he came, and one night up at the pub he told us 638 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,000 this idea and what 639 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,400 a marvellous idea it was and I can remember thinking, "No, Bill, 640 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,480 "this is not a good idea. This is not one of your better ideas." 641 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:48,880 But I was wrong. 642 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,880 It's one of these things where, to be honest, 643 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,280 we didn't know we'd ever survive or 644 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,880 even get our product out of Tasmania. 645 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,400 It was a struggle for a long time to get anybody here to even try it. 646 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,840 In the early days, you know, people thought, 647 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,480 "Oh, look, isn't that a nice idea? They're having a go, 648 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,280 "trying to make a bit of whisky." 649 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:09,840 But you've got to earn your stripes. 650 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,560 It's not a matter of just making a product and everybody will buy 651 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,360 it just because you make it. 652 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,520 You have to prove that it's worth buying in the first place, or in our 653 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:23,120 case, worth drinking. And it took us a while to get it right and some of 654 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:27,680 the earlier whiskies that were made, I have to say, weren't the best. 655 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,280 But once we got the theory right, we got the practice right, 656 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,560 we started making good whisky. 657 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,560 We found that we could sell it. 658 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,360 But mostly overseas. 659 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,240 So it was France that first took us on. 660 00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:44,200 Once we'd won 661 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,920 the world's best single malt 662 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,160 whisky out at the UK, the World Whiskies Awards, 663 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,280 everything changed. From that morning on, 664 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,600 it hasn't stopped. I mean, 665 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,000 I can remember standing in our bond 666 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,360 store a few years ago and we had over 667 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,320 1,000 barrels, thinking, "What have we done? 668 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,760 "We've made too much whisky, we'll never sell this. 669 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,880 "What are we going to do?" 670 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,880 And now, I look at our whisky and I think, 671 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,240 "God, I wish we had ten times more." 672 00:36:13,240 --> 00:36:16,960 The extent of the Tasmanian whisky revolution is startling. 673 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,560 It is a surprise. 674 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,480 Yet, when you're here, it makes perfect sense. 675 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,840 In some ways, this place is a mirror image of Scotland. 676 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,360 Closer to home and yet aesthetically different to Scotland, 677 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,040 there is another surprisingly vibrant whisky country. 678 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,040 Sweden. 679 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,680 Ingvar Ronde from Malmo compiles the Malt Whisky Yearbook, 680 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,960 seen by many as the bible of Scotch. 681 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,760 Ingvar is leading the way to the small island of Hven, 682 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,320 visiting its distillery and spirit laboratory. 683 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:11,560 I think the interest in whisky started probably in the... 684 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,880 I would say '60s and '70s, 685 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,520 when we started to watch all of 686 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,080 these fantastic TV series from England, 687 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,320 where every two minutes, they were drinking whisky. 688 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,240 Coming home after work, they were sipping a whisky. 689 00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:29,360 And we always, in Sweden, and in Scandinavia in particular, 690 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:34,000 have been influenced by British culture. 691 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,560 So that's when I think we started to embrace whisky. 692 00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:45,320 Then it took off fantastically in the '90s where it wasn't just about 693 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,600 drinking whisky, it was about going to the distillery to see how it's 694 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,080 produced, about learning about whisky. 695 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,200 I know some Scotch whisky brand 696 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,840 ambassadors who come to whisky shows in 697 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,280 Sweden, they are absolutely amazed 698 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:02,280 about the knowledge that Swedish whisky drinkers have. 699 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,800 Hven distillery was founded in 2007 and is one of eight in Sweden. 700 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,480 As well as making whisky, 701 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,920 it houses a state-of-the-art laboratory, 702 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,440 providing services for drinks companies across the world. 703 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,320 What we do here is, it is our Swedish whisky, it's our whisky, 704 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:23,200 not definitely just Swedish or Scottish. 705 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,640 Still, most of the Scottish people are just Vikings 706 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,200 not travelling back, 707 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,480 so you have the heritage from us anyway. 708 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,520 But at the end of the day, 709 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:38,480 there is so many different whiskies and one doesn't kill off the others. 710 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,480 There's a whisky for all. 711 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,800 What we're doing here is, we're very particular about our oak maturation, 712 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,040 but also how we create the cut. 713 00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:49,880 Obviously, being small, 714 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:54,080 we need to have our unique selling points and we need to make something 715 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,960 that really tastes, really scents. 716 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,640 Because volume can't be our sale thing. 717 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:05,120 So we go into special varieties of fermentation, special yeast strains, 718 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,000 special varieties of wood, for example. 719 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,880 But also, with the laboratory, 720 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,200 where we have the unique possibility of actually seeing what's happening 721 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:15,720 during maturation, 722 00:39:15,720 --> 00:39:21,080 we do analyses for a wide variety of distillers around the world. 723 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,200 Well, a lot of people say that now, 724 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,560 the Scotch whisky industry is in big trouble, 725 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,120 because they are being chased by so many 726 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,000 producers around the world. 727 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,960 Yes, there is more competition now, but, at the same time, 728 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,200 we have at least 100 distilleries in Scotland. 729 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,880 We have 400 or 500 years of tradition in Scotland. 730 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:46,560 You can't just wipe that away just because our new distilleries started 731 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,680 10, 15, 20 years ago producing in Tasmania or Sweden. 732 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:56,560 They make beautiful whisky, but for the next 20 or 30 years, 733 00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:01,240 I don't see them as a huge competitor to Scotch whisky. 734 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,840 Back on the mainland in Malmo is The Bishops Arms, 735 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,680 a cosy British themed pub specialising 736 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:35,000 in single malts and run by Croatian whisky fanatic, Maja Kozul. 737 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,160 I'm very curious about everything, to be honest, 738 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,000 and I think whisky is very good 739 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,760 to have, enjoy. 740 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,280 It's very much about people. 741 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,160 There is a difference between driving a Ferrari and there is 742 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,960 difference between riding a bicycle. 743 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,320 And obviously if you compare a whisky with something else. 744 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,600 Every Bishops Arms staff member is 745 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,680 trained to become a whisky specialist and advocate. 746 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,040 Service is very important. 747 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:14,040 People come in our bar and they look on the shelves and say, 748 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,200 what is all that? And you start there. 749 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:21,480 And you start there and, "Can I have a double whisky?" 750 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,520 And we start off often saying, 751 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,320 "Well, would you like to have three smaller ones, same amount, 752 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,160 "same money and just discover something new?" 753 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,080 So you kind of have to educate your 754 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,240 guests as you are educating your staff at the same time. 755 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,560 The Bishops Arms has won two prestigious awards. 756 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,000 Maja is spending the prize money on a celebratory staff trip. 757 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:54,320 We are going to spend that money with a trip to Scotland, of course! 758 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,360 We're visiting Glenkinchie Distillery and we're just going to 759 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,440 have an inspiration trip with my staff so we can keep it alive. 760 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,320 Glenkinchie is a Lowland distillery 761 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,120 outside of Edinburgh, founded in 1837. 762 00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:25,560 That's a pleasant smell. 763 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,400 And you finish with the distilling? 764 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:43,520 By the old port of Leith, it's time for a trip to Teuchters Landing, 765 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:48,000 a pub whose assets include a high-stakes game of hoopla. 766 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,440 We were just checking if they have any whisky we don't. 767 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:08,840 So we'll try that one. 768 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,760 It's very good to see how other people work with the whisky, 769 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:13,840 not just us. 770 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,560 It's a living product, not just 771 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,680 something you pour into a bottle and pour 772 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,840 colour into. It's a living product that goes into casks and is made of 773 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:25,960 barley. It makes it a lot more real to see a distillery and see why you 774 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,960 should appreciate whisky. 775 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,480 Our guide, Clive, was very good. 776 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,480 I thought he was really good. 777 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,600 He showed us a picture up from about 100 years ago with 778 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,200 about 50 people who used to work 779 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,840 there and it was really interesting just 780 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,640 seeing that that must have been the whole village 781 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,160 worked at the distillery. 782 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,560 And now, you told us that it's two 783 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,000 people work 12 hours and two people do the late 784 00:43:55,000 --> 00:44:00,880 shift and the whole thing runs off that and how the whisky making has 785 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,000 changed over 100 years, but they can still get the same product. 786 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,200 I get a bucket of ice! 787 00:44:13,720 --> 00:44:15,920 Shall we have a hoop? We should? 788 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,120 We should have a hoop. We'll have to hide away all the single cask 789 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,040 Ardbeg though. 790 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:25,080 I'm not sure how that's going to work out with the Swedish alcohol 791 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,360 law, because selling alcohol in Sweden's not allowed to be fun. 792 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,760 It has to be quite straight and direct. 793 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,240 There's no such thing as happy hour in Sweden. 794 00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:43,080 Spending time with this impassioned, knowledgeable Bishops Arms team, 795 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,600 I wonder whether we in Scotland train our own 796 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:50,400 bar staff enough and even if we take Scotch for granted? 797 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,400 Very often, you can walk into a bar in Scotland, anywhere, and say, 798 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,520 "Oh, can I have an Islay whisky, please?" 799 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:57,920 "Oh, I don't know, you'll need to 800 00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,800 "come behind the bar and have a look." 801 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,920 15 years ago, if somebody came to our bar and said, 802 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,640 "Could you tell me a good whisky?" 803 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,320 Then they came straight to me, 804 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,160 because the lassie didn't have a clue behind the bar, so we thought, 805 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,880 right, we'll sort this out. So we'll get some of the distilleries in, 806 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,880 we'll get some proper staff training. 807 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,600 Because there's no point having the stuff if you can't sell it. 808 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,000 So the guys all came in and we'd go up to the Whisky Experience. 809 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,360 No, so it's good. We kept meeting 810 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,160 people who worked in bars and sometimes, 811 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,280 they worked in the very best hotel 812 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:27,600 bars in Edinburgh, 813 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,680 where we knew all the international visitors were coming, 814 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,160 some really high-end visitors were coming and staying, 815 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:37,560 in those beautiful five-star hotels that we have and at that time, 816 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,200 they weren't necessarily getting great information 817 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:41,440 about Scotch whisky, 818 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:46,000 and I have to say, that's changed massively in the last 15 years. 819 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,720 Both in terms of the number of 820 00:45:47,720 --> 00:45:49,840 whiskies available, the number of 821 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,280 specialist whisky bars that there are. 822 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,240 But there's still much, much more to do and I would 823 00:45:55,240 --> 00:45:59,360 completely agree that across a very broad portfolio in Edinburgh, 824 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,840 if you look at lots of places that you can taste whisky, 825 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,000 you aren't necessarily going to find 826 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,840 everybody serving you that really knows 827 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,320 about Scotch whisky and is passionate about it. 828 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,720 If you talk to whisky drinkers around the world, 829 00:46:11,720 --> 00:46:13,560 "How did you find out about Scotch whisky?" 830 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,040 They were introduced to it by a 831 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,480 bartender, by a brand ambassador. 832 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,440 They came on holiday to Scotland, 833 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:19,800 they visited a distillery. 834 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,240 And it's so important. 835 00:46:21,240 --> 00:46:24,320 So, even it goes back to the starting of whisky and you know, 836 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,280 what happened there, the introduction. 837 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,360 The personal contact remains absolutely key. 838 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,400 This is the great city of London. 839 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,520 A city that has quaffed whisky for hundreds of years. 840 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,560 It's also a city that has begun to distil its own whisky yet again. 841 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,480 And it's also the city that has stoked a debate about how exactly 842 00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,600 this drink should best be devoured, 843 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,040 and that includes - and this is heretical - 844 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,920 a mutiny against tradition for some, including myself, 845 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,680 drinking whisky in cocktails. 846 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,400 Now, I'm about to go into this hotel to talk to the 847 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,280 2015 World Barman of the Year 848 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,640 and if he mixes me a cocktail, he's going straight to the Tower. 849 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:29,680 Ryan, on a daily basis, you commit sacrilege in this bar. 850 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,320 Because you take some really, 851 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,040 really decent whiskies that take years to mature 852 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:35,560 into all the richness of 853 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,040 flavours, and then you throw in all 854 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,240 sorts of other liquids and you throw in 855 00:47:39,240 --> 00:47:43,000 strawberry crushes and botanicals and you make dreadful cocktails out 856 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,240 of them. I'm guilty of that. 857 00:47:45,240 --> 00:47:48,080 Why? To me, it's been the beauty of whisky. 858 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:49,600 It does have big, bold flavours, 859 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,760 it's got all of these interesting characteristics and to me, 860 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,080 a cocktail is just a new way of experiencing that. 861 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:59,240 To me, it's not about masking any of the flavours and hiding it away as a 862 00:47:59,240 --> 00:48:02,960 bland alcohol, the beauty of using Scotch in these things is it has all 863 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,960 these characteristics. Whisky should be drunk any way you want it to be. 864 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,720 I am a big fan of not being prescriptive about drinking whisky 865 00:48:09,720 --> 00:48:12,640 and I think we are seeing that more and more nowadays. 866 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,000 I love whisky cocktails, whisky highballs, whisky neat, 867 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:20,520 whisky on the rocks... In a nosing glass, being more professional, 868 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,720 or literally out of a flask when I'm walking up a big hill and it's 869 00:48:23,720 --> 00:48:25,480 freezing cold. I think the industry 870 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,280 need to find a way of keeping their older 871 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,520 consumer happy, by doing what they love and what 872 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,200 they're going to keep buying, 873 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,000 but also not being scared to innovate and 874 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,480 not being scared to talk about 875 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,520 putting in mixers and talk about putting in ice and water and getting 876 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,560 more people to experiment with it and find out what they like, 877 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,520 rather than using the old method, 878 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,600 where it was preached and you were told you must drink it neat, 879 00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,440 you mustn't do this, you mustn't do 880 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,280 that, and that image has turned a lot of people off. 881 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,240 So, however you want to drink your Scotch, 882 00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:54,200 you drink your Scotch however you like it. 883 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,000 And don't let anybody tell you you can't. 884 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,240 But, there are limits. 885 00:48:58,240 --> 00:49:00,200 So, I got my father for one Christmas 886 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,800 a really expensive bottle of Highland Park. 887 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,560 Highland Park is a beautiful Scotch, 888 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,880 and I took it around and we were celebrating Christmas and the first 889 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,120 thing he did was he opened it, 890 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,240 and there was a bottle of dry ginger at one side and this really amazing 891 00:49:15,240 --> 00:49:17,400 bottle of Highland Park at the other. 892 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,320 And they both went in the same glass. 893 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,440 So that is where you draw the limit. 894 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,680 If you want to get somebody to experience a new spirit, 895 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,720 something different, a new flavour, 896 00:49:26,720 --> 00:49:28,840 it can be a bit much just giving them a neat dram, 897 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,360 especially when you've got something cask strength or smoky and all of a 898 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,560 sudden they are put off by it. Everybody's got that story of 899 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,360 drinking whisky, stealing it from their dad's cabinet and going, 900 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,720 "I don't like the stuff," and they stick with that idea. 901 00:49:40,720 --> 00:49:44,280 Whereas, whisky runs this amazing gauntlet of flavour and you've got 902 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:48,120 light, delicate, Lowland drams, through to big, smoky, rich Islays. 903 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,280 And you want people to go, "Right, actually, 904 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,080 "there's a new way of experiencing this." 905 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:53,920 And using a cocktail, if you do it delicately, 906 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,920 is a way of introducing new flavours to them. 907 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,840 Actually, this drink's been on our menu since the beginning. 908 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,000 And I've always tried to involve whisky cocktails. 909 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,920 It's my favourite spirit. It's one I have loved. 910 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,640 I lived in Scotland for a long time. It's very close to my heart. 911 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,720 So, this is essentially a twist on a whisky sour. 912 00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:11,280 But it is a bit of an unusual one. 913 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,680 So, I'm going to warn you of that before I get started. 914 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,120 If people want to enjoy their whisky with a lot 915 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,400 of nosing and sniffing and looking at the colour, well good for them. 916 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,360 It's their whisky, they've bought it. 917 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:25,600 If they want to slam a glass full of ice and stick a branded cola on top 918 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,880 of it, well, I might wince. 919 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,680 It might not be for me, but it's their whisky. 920 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:32,840 It's a free world. 921 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,360 On they should go. As long as they enjoy it. 922 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,920 This idea that, "Thou shalt not touch," 923 00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,040 really only is about 30 years old. 924 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:44,680 And I think it's done irreparable 925 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,760 damage to the Scotch whisky industry 926 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,520 because people... It's a strong drink. 927 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,720 And people take a sip of it because you're not allowed to add water to 928 00:50:51,720 --> 00:50:53,240 it and it's... Come on. 929 00:50:53,240 --> 00:50:55,280 It's about pleasure, guys. It's not about pain. 930 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:59,200 So, you know, I would add anything you want to Scotch whisky. 931 00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,040 Just enjoy it because it might be a great, complex drink, 932 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,760 but it's just a drink. 933 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,440 Ryan, the more I explore whisky, 934 00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,440 the more I realise it is a form of alchemy. 935 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:10,520 Mm-hmm. 936 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,280 And you're taking it a stage further, aren't you? 937 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,760 Well, to me, you know, your whisky blenders, be that blended whisky, 938 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,280 be that single malts, they are essentially making cocktails. 939 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,840 They're bringing all these different elements together. 940 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,520 Creating a harmony that tastes greater than the sum of its parts. 941 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,920 Hopefully, this is going to be a new side of this whisky that you won't 942 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,920 have tried. This will be a first time for me. 943 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,640 OK. I'm hoping this works. 944 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:00,480 Slainte. 945 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,200 That's surprisingly refreshing. 946 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:12,360 Dare I admit it. 947 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:13,880 THEY LAUGH 948 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,040 I'll probably lose half my friends. 949 00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,760 So, what does the future hold in store for Scotch? 950 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:33,120 Not only is there an explosion of small-scale craft distilleries, 951 00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,400 some of the older, established producers 952 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,000 are investing big money, too. 953 00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:41,880 This is Strathspey in the north-east of Scotland. 954 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,360 It's an area that contains the 955 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,480 greatest density of whisky distilleries 956 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:46,960 anywhere in the world. 957 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,440 It is also home to The Macallan, 958 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,520 one of the best loved and most revered whiskies in the world. 959 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,440 Macallan have been here for over 200 years. 960 00:52:55,440 --> 00:53:00,160 But currently, the demand for Macallan is outstripping supply. 961 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,240 So, the company are investing the 962 00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:05,640 small sum of £100 million in creating a 963 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,000 cathedral of whisky, due to open in 2017. 964 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:18,080 This beautiful new distillery on the Island of Harris is proof, too, 965 00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:21,480 that there is confidence in the future of Scotch. 966 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,920 It's a very exciting time, I think, for distilling. 967 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:25,440 Especially here in Scotland, 968 00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,440 we've got a lot of new distilleries appearing. 969 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,120 There's a lot of gin distilleries which are going to be leading into 970 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:31,720 making whisky. But the same thing's 971 00:53:31,720 --> 00:53:34,160 happening all across mainland Europe, all throughout Asia. 972 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,320 And there's a lot of new distilleries appearing. 973 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,080 But I think it's very important that Scotland doesn't lose focus, 974 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,200 so that they keep creating very high quality spirit. 975 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:42,720 But I think that we're lucky in a 976 00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:44,480 way because we have the heritage that 977 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,480 all of these mainland European distilleries and Asian distilleries 978 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,920 will never have the same heritage as Scotland has. 979 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,320 The big challenge in whisky is trying to balance innovation and 980 00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:57,240 tradition. I think it's very possible to do that. 981 00:53:57,240 --> 00:53:59,440 And to produce something amazing. 982 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,720 I don't know if it's going to turn out just as fine as everyone in the 983 00:54:02,720 --> 00:54:05,000 industry thinks and hopes and believes. 984 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,240 And there are going to be some casualties along the way. 985 00:54:07,240 --> 00:54:09,480 Maybe some of those small craft distilleries 986 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,040 are going to fall by the wayside 987 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,400 in a kind of creative destruction of the marketplace. 988 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,040 But overall, I think we probably will take the right turn. 989 00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,160 I think we will go on to the sunlit 990 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:22,040 uplands and I think there is a bonnie future for Scotch. 991 00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:26,880 We've made Scotch whisky for hundreds of years. 992 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,440 It has proved the test of time. 993 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:35,840 It is revered as the pinnacle of the distiller's art worldwide 994 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,360 because of its character, its quality, 995 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:44,480 its soul. And it will continue to do well. 996 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,200 I see it actually as a moment of opportunity for Scotch 997 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,040 whisky because the more the 998 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,640 Scotch whisky industry is looking over 999 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,920 its shoulder, sort of going, "Oh, well, bourbon's becoming popular. 1000 00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,760 "Maybe we should be like bourbon. 1001 00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:58,400 "Or Japanese is becoming popular. 1002 00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,040 "Can we be like Japanese?" 1003 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,240 Then you've lost it. You've lost the battle completely. 1004 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,600 But not everyone is as confident about the future. 1005 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:17,480 I actually think that if you look at whisky, the historic whisky graph, 1006 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,400 it goes up and down. If you remember 1007 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,280 in the '80s with the whisky lake and 1008 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,160 shut half of Scotland's distilleries. It's coming. 1009 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:29,160 What have Scotland done? Doubled production in the last four years. 1010 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,320 The moment that whisky is live and ready for sale... 1011 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:37,200 ..we haven't suddenly got twice as many whisky drinkers in the world. 1012 00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,280 Therefore, this is just going to... 1013 00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,800 There has to be a mountain of whisky building. 1014 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,400 And at some point, it will all go down and we'll all have a bit of a 1015 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,200 downturn. And then we'll... 1016 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:48,760 Yeah. So, what do you...? 1017 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,520 What's your opinion on say the 1018 00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,920 Macallan spending 100 million on this new facility? 1019 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:55,280 Brilliant. Really cool. 1020 00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,600 But you know, they've doubled production. 1021 00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,480 Do they think they can sell twice as much whisky? 1022 00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:02,000 If they can, brilliant. 1023 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,200 But that means someone else isn't selling any. 1024 00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:09,280 We haven't suddenly got everybody buying twice as many bottles. 1025 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:13,320 So, the industry has to do a bit of a dip. 1026 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,000 And those that have got their 1027 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,640 houses in order will be fine and those that have borrowed to the hilt 1028 00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,680 and are expecting it to continue willy-nilly probably 1029 00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,360 will wake up with a headache. 1030 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,680 But we'll see. That's the joy of whisky. 1031 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,520 I mean, you design a business to work over generations, 1032 00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,200 not over a decade cycle. 1033 00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:41,560 As I have seen, Scotch whisky sprung from Caledonian terrain and 1034 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,520 bewitched the world. 1035 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,480 Its ascendancy has been driven by 1036 00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,880 pioneers, from early innovators and 1037 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:52,400 the entrepreneurs who first exported our wares, to today's scientists, 1038 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,200 blenders and craft distillers. 1039 00:56:55,560 --> 00:57:00,280 Yet what strikes me most is, despite all that, the drink itself remains 1040 00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,280 a charming enigma. 1041 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,600 The causes of its sumptuous taste, 1042 00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:08,800 impossible to agree upon and even opaque and mysterious. 1043 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:14,080 There will be peaks and troughs and pretenders to the throne. 1044 00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,120 But because of that sorcery, 1045 00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,320 Scotland's tipple of genius will always prevail. 1046 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,640 The future's bright. The future's amber. 1047 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,200 We're getting very near last orders, folks. 1048 00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:35,640 And the end of my journey. 1049 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,480 A wonderful journey through the magical world of whisky. 1050 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,520 I hope you've enjoyed it. 1051 00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:45,000 From Highland crofter to Hobart visionary, 1052 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,960 there's an amber thread that embroiders the globe. 1053 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:52,480 When a cunning alchemist distils a spirit, 1054 00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:56,880 a liquid drops forth into a cask and there something truly, 1055 00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,080 truly colossal happens. 1056 00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:04,800 Scotch whisky affects history and defines identity. 1057 00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:09,920 It embraces science and big business and the land, and yet... 1058 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,040 And yet, at its heart, this mixture of water, 1059 00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,240 barley and yeast is just a simple, 1060 00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:20,000 beautiful taste of heaven in a glass. 1061 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:21,440 Slainte. 90004

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