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My grandfather
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told me,
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you must be better.
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You must be,
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not good, not average...
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You must be better than the best.
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He made it clear.It wasn't a matter of
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whether you want to succeed or not.
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You're going to.
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There was no black driverat that time.
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There was death threats.
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If this nigger races in this race,
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he not might not leave alive.
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They called me Uppity.Uppity nigger.
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And I loved it.
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My grandfather,
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he was the only black plumbing contractorin the city of San Jose.
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His business was pretty much all white,
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and he knew he had to bebetter than his competitors,
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and he drilled that in us.
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That was, to me, very important.
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He started in 1927.
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By 1960s he was doing so wellthat he bought a ranch
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and left the plumbing businessto my dad and my uncle.
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Because of the family business,
my dad had motorcycles,
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and he had go-karts,
and he had sports cars.
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And that was my introduction.
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My dad was racing as a hobby.
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He competedin amateur racing.
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We were always exposed to
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racecars, and racing car drivers.
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He was maybe about five or six
and he met Dan Gurney
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and oh, God, he just followed him all overthe track.
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If a race driver is everelected president of the United States,
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it probably will be Dan Gurney.
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Dan Gurney, he was such a nice person.
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He says "Okay, let's take our picture."
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Dan was smiling all over the place.
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He thought he was a real crack up.
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The Dan Gurneysof the world.
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The Jim Clarks of the world.
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They were the reasonI wanted to be a race driver.
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And I knew that at nine years old.
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From then on,he spent his time
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with the automobiles rather
than brothers and sisters.
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I had a Lotus Cortina,
which is a little two-door sedan.
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Every opportunity he would have
when he came home from school,
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first thing he did was gojump in the car.
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I knew where the key was...
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...and I went up to a windy road,
called Mount Hamilton Road.
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At 12 years old.
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The sheriff called me and said,
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"You know we got Willy T.Out in your car."
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I said "Huh?"
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My mother didn't spank me,
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and my Dad didn't spank me.
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But they said you're going to the ranch.
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If you got in trouble,
my grandfather, who was
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the person you worried about.
It wasn't the law.
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He was only five foot four,
but he was as big as Shaquille O' Neal.
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I said you need
to stay out here for a while,
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where you can run a carwithout it running over somebody.
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My grandfather hated
auto racing.
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It was not to be mentioned at the ranch.
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So you didn't talk about it around him.
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He thought that being involvedin auto racing was
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spending money recklessly.
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You had to have a goal.
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And it better pass
the smell test with him.
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He wanted to know
what I was going to do.
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I told him, I wanted to bea formula one driver,
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or an Indy 500 driver.
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There was no black driverat that time.
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He said to me,
you're a goddamn fool.
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Told him,"No, you can't do that."
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Willy T. Said, "Grandpa,
but that's what I want to do."
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And he says, "Well, I don't care whatyou want to do. You can't drive a car."
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"I built this businessto hand over to you,
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so you wouldn't have
to work for somebody else.
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So you could be your own boss."
And with him, being your own boss
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meant everything.
You had to be your own boss.
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I wanted to be my own boss.Behind the steering wheel.
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I wanted to be a race driver.
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Young drivers from all overthe world would all go to Britain,
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and run the Formula 4 championship.
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This is Formula 4,
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a late outgrowthto the Formula B division.
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Formula 4 is a place where
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if you have a desire to be
a professional motor racing driver,
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that was where you went.
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That's the placewhere you find out if you're real.
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And if you're good enough,you come out and people pay attention.
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I let my parents know,
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that I'm not going to go to college.
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Look at me going to Englandto race Formula 4,
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is like sending me to college.
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My dad knew the dangers of racing.He would never admit that
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he was worried about me
getting hurt or killed.
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But he knew it was there.
He lost
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quite a few friendsright in front of his eyes.
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Killed right in front of his eyes.
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He was reluctant.Especially as a career.
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When you do it as a career,
you're all in.
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You're all in.
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When I got to England, I knew from reading
Autosport Magazine.
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There was a team that
was very successful. It was called
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Scorpion Racing. And the ownerwas Mike Eastick.
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So I drove out to his farmand knocked on the door.
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He thought I was there
to get a job on his farm.
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I said, "No, I'm here to talk to youabout driving one of your racecars."
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If you brought money. Whether it waspersonal money or sponsored dollars,
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he'd put you in a racecar. I paid him
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with my college money.
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We shook hands on a deal.
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Two weeks later, he had metesting his racecar at Mallory Park.
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If you want to be an IndyCar driver
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or a Formula One driver,you start at that level.
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The older model racecar,which is what he put me in,
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costs 200 pounds per race.
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I finished third in my first race
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and right then, he said, "Okay, I want you
to go to the newer model."
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Coming to getthe green flag...
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The second race I won.
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When I called home from England, I said,
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"I won." And there was a pause.
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"You're kidding," and I said, "No, I won."
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I was racing against Nigel Manselland Michael Rowe.
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And those guys were really tough.
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Mansell went on to beFormula One world champion.
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It was my fourth or fifth race.
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The head of Formula Onewas there, Bernie Ecclestone.
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Bernie Ecclestonetook over Formula One.
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Turned it into the world'snumber two sport behind soccer.
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Made it a commercial success,billions upon billions.
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And a beautiful start!
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You can't even quantifyhow big Bernie Ecclestone
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is in Formula One.
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If somebody was doing well
in any of the lower series,
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they would probably come
into GP3 or GP2
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and then get recognized
and go into Formula One.
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And that's why I was there.
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I wanted to catch your eye
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so I could be a Formula One driveror an Indy 500 driver.
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I won six out of eleven races.I had such a large points lead,
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I couldn't be beat.
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Willy was so dominant
with the Scorpion Racing Team.
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He didn't even need
to finish the season.
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He'd earned so many points,championship was already his.
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Once I won my championship
in Formula 4,
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I was out of money.
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You do need somesupport financially,
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in order that you can get recognized.
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Because you can't just say,
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"I think what I'm going to do
is be a Formula One driver,"
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and pop into a car.
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Once you start coming out ofFormula 4, getting into Formula Three,
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that's when things start gettinga little bit expensive. Family support?
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That comes to an endafter Formula 4.
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You really do need sponsors.
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Wanting to be a racecar driver.It costs.
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It costs a lot of money.
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A lot of the drivers were beingsponsored by their own country.
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I didn't get that, and so...
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I could not go to Formula Three,
and I had to come home.
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When I came back to the United States,
I was 22 years old.
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The next step from Formula 4to the United States was Formula Atlantic.
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And I got a phone call from
the Long Beach Grand Prix Association.
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They had a sponsor that put mein my first race in the United States.
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I didn't have a car that I could win with,
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but the objective was to get my feet wetin the United States.
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Before every race,
there's a drivers meeting.
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You could feel the tension.
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In England there was no animosityabout the color of my skin.
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It was about,"Hey, let's go out and race."
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And when I walked into
that drivers meeting
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in Long Beach.Not one driver spoke to me.
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Not one.
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They didn't even look at me.
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After that, there was nothing.Despite what I accomplished in England.
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He came back knowing
that, "I just did something,
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accomplished something
that very few Americans have.
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Let alone African-Americans."
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And no one would give him a shot, no one.
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I came to speedway back in 1975,
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and I was always looking for an angle.
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We would do crazy things like Robosaurus.
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He ate six cars.
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Then we had high wire acts.
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When Geoff Bodine came down here
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from Chemung, New York,and I used to say,
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Earnhardt's Robert E. Lee andGeoff Bodine is Grant.
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For a while there, they solda lot of tickets
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'cause there was a civil warkind of aspect about it.
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I get a phone call from
a promoter in Charlotte, North Carolina.
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If 30 % ofthe population is Black,
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you want to get someof those people in it.
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He said, "I could putyou in a car."
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I did not know
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he was The Blonde Don King.
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Humpy Wheeler was smart enough to say,
"This would be great for our series."
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"We're going to get some
attention down here,
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and you're the guy
that's going to bring it."
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I knew it would work
If we got the right black race driver.
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And his record was pretty darn good
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considering the equipmenthe had to work with.
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I've had a lot of guys in cars out there
just trying to see what they can do.
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Usually it takes them two days
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just to figure outhow to get through the first turn.
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He didn't waste any time, he just got out
there on the fourth lap,
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and he was running pretty steamy laps.
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I said, "You gonna crash thisthing if you keep going." He said,
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"That's the only way
to go fast, get it loose."
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So Humpy and Willy announcedthey are going to get Willy
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into the World 600,one of NASCARS biggest events.
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I didn't think about any
of the political or social ramifications.
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That didn't, it didn't cross my mind.
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But he knew.
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You think about that time period
we were in in the '70s.
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Everything was supposed to be integrated
and yackity yack across the country,
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but it wasn't. There was
still a lot of segregationists.
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Next week, I'm going to putJews under--
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Willy had challengesin front of him that
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other race car drivers didn't.
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You're coming into a sport wherethe majority of the people are white,
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and they have been
from its conception.
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You go to a racetrack
and 75 % of the infield
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was still waving rebel flags.
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They might call it the
United States racing series.
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It's a Southern racing series.
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Daytona's down there,
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Talladega's down there.That is all white.
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Humpy said, "There's a few people
that are not going to like you down here."
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I said, "Well, they're just
gonna have to get used to not liking it."
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No, that's not a place to go.
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Not if you're black.
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That weekend there was
a big race in Talladega.
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And when we got into the pits,people were actually
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spitting on the ground near me.
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It wasn't a very warmwelcome, and it
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really started to piss me off.
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If you're such a badass, don't spit,
start swinging your fists.
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The clash of taking a west coast,
Northern Californian, black man,
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dropping him into the deep south,
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and expecting him to knowthe Jim Crow playbook
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and that he's not expectedto be proud to be his own man
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and thinking that's going
to be a success?
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I don't know how anybody
actually thought that was going to work.
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And so I said, "Okay,
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you wanna have a reason
not to like me?
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I'm gonna give you one."
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All the drivers were there.All the crew chiefs were there,
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some of the car owners,and some press guys.
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A hand went up,
an African-American hand.
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In Talladega, Alabama.
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And Willy said, "Can you
pass in the grass?"
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They had a real narrowpit lane
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and the drivers werecoming out of the pits.
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They were nearly running into each other.
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You stood at the driver's meeting and said
to the grand national competitors,
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"I have one question,
can you pass in the grass?"
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Do you regret having said that?
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Oh, no, because it was probably
one of the most intelligent questions
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ever askedin a Grand National Driver's meeting.
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Uh, Chief Stuart was a card
carrying member and his face tightened up,
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with rage.
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Boy, that was a huge mistake.
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There was death threatsthat were called in.
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If this nigger races in this race,
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he might not leave alive.
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It was not only that call,
but we got a lot of other calls.
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"If you let that blankety
blank run in the race,
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I am going to kill you"
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My grandfather believed
in right and wrong.
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And you don't turn the other cheek
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when you're right.
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You do not walk away from that.
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Things just keptgetting worse and worse and worse.
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So I sat Willy down.
I said, "Willy,
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maybe next year or the year
after, but this is not the time to do it."
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This place is too inflamed.
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He was definitely fighting
an uphill battle.
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Especially being the personality
that he was.
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That kind of endedas they say, "The Battle of Willy T."
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Humpy hadto pull the plug
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and I wish he hadn't.
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In England, in 1977,I met Muhammad Ali.
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From then on, he sorta
took me under his wing.
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He said to me, "You're goingto deal with some challenges...
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For one reason only.
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You're not in basketball.You're not in baseball.
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You're in an all-white sport."
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What gave me resolve
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was thinking about my grandfather
and what he taught me,
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and then there was Muhammad Ali.
And his three-and-a-half-year layoff.
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Where he couldn't make a living.
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It took his livelihood away.
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I thought about those, those two men...
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And I thought, all right.
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Don't give up mentally.
You might not be in a racecar,
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but don't give up.
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Don't quit on yourself becausethe only person
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who's going to beat you is you.
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No one was jumping to put mein a racecar. I didn't want to be...
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working for my dad.
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I didn't wanna be in that business,
but I had to.
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Everything I achievedin England was meaningless.
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I went from driving a racing car
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and winning races, to drivinga service van for my dad.
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It was devastating.An acquaintance
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with my dad's company was doing
a job for-- On a building that he owned.
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He asked me to go to a race with him.
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And I said, "Nah, I don't wanna go."
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And he says, "Well, they're having
a Can-Am race at Laguna Seca in Monterey,
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and would you go?" I said,
"No, I don't want to go."
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He says, "Come on, I'll drive down.
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I'll drive you down. Just walk
me around, I've never been."
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Went down there and I waswalking through the pits
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and I met Jim Trueman.
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I didn't know who Jim Truemanwas, he said, "I own Red Roof Inns."
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And Jim Trueman hasmoved up into fourth place right now.
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One ofthe great sportsmen.
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Jim Trueman's life was
really all about IndyCar
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and Bobby Rahal. But giventhe chance Jim would absolutely
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spend some of his moneyto help give chances elsewhere.
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My version of success is to see how many
other people I can help be successful.
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He says,"What do you wanna do?"
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I say, "Well, I'm out of racing."
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He says, "Yeah, I know."
He says, "Why?"
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I said, "No, no backing."
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"All right, I want you tocall me next week. Call me Tuesday."
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I asked him, I said, "Are you serious?"
He says, "Call me."
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"What kind of cars doyou want to race?" And I said,
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"Well, I want to continueto do Formula Atlantic."
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You find the team
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and if you like it, tell me
how much it's going to cost.
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The Formula Atlantic Series,was in many ways the pre-eminent
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road racing series
in North America, in 1982.
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It was the most similar to whata race driver would be driving anywhere
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else in the world at the same level.
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My first Formula Atlantic race,I ran in the top Six.
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Then next year,
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I put it on the pole.
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And the guys that were in that race
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were Al Unser Jr.
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Michael Andretti,
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Jeff Brabham.
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Willy qualified three-tenths of a second
faster than the entire field.
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That surprised me and everybody else.
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The only person who wasn't
surprised was Willy.
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In front of Formula One,
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in front of Bernie Ecclestone,
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in front of the eliteof the sport. With no time.
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And we put that
son of a bitch on the pole.
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I knew that. I said, "I'm as good
as anybody in the sport."
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Took off, and I had a good week.
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He led more than half of the race.
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But what took us out
was the failure of the engine.
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And I could feelthe engine start to fade.
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If it wasn't for mechanical failure,
I might've won the race.
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The reason that engine failed
was because
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it had something like 1800 miles on it
before we even started the race.
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Everybody we were beating,they had a brand new engine with
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a hundred miles on it.
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And it was special for Long Beach
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and much better powerand torque than our engines.
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But it didn't matter.I knew I was back. You all saw it.
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Now what do you have to say?
What do you gotta say now?
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Where's the deals?
Where's the phone calls?
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What are you scared of now?
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Nothing happened. No deal.
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So I worked in the family business.That was hard.
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The end of 1982.
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Two days before Thanksgiving,
the phone rang, and it was Paul Newman.
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Paul Newman tookracing really seriously.
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He wanted to be
respected as a driver.
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The only thing that I ever foundany grace in was an automobile.
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I first met Paul
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in the pits. It was brief,and he said, "Keep up the good work."
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I did not know that Newman
was actually paying attention,
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until I got that phone call from him.
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"Hey, kid,
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I got a deal for you."
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I know you like Formula Atlantic but
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the Trans-Am Series is an opportunity
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for you to become a paid race driver.
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It's going to be a first class team.Think about it,
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and let me know.
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I said, "No, I've alreadythought about it. If you recommend it,
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I'm doing it."He says,"All right,
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you're going to get
a call from Budweiser.
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They got a few hard asses there,
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so if there's any problems,
call me."
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SCC Trans-Amwasn't as big as IndyCar,
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but it was definitely popular.
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DeAtley Racing wassponsored by Budweiser.
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For Trans-Am at that time,it was state of the art.
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And when Paul Newman called meand recommended this Trans-Am which--
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I didn't know anything
about Trans-Am.
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I was blown away.
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But I knew he knew I could
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go fast. That, he knew.
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He said, "I'm not helpingmyself here
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'cause I'm going to beracing against you
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and I know how fast you are."
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They go into turnnumber one and Paul Newman
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from third starting position sneaksto the inside and passes Willy T. Ribbs,
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but Ribbs grabs the lead back.
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00:24:57,913 --> 00:25:01,208
"But I'm driving a racing car
for a different reason than you are,
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I enjoy it, it's my hobby.
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You drive a racing carto put a roof over your head.
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And that's why you needto be in that car."
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It took five years for me to bein this position. To be a paid pro driver.
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This was an opportunity for me
to not have to
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go back to where I was.
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I didn't want to go backto driving a plumbing van.
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The difference between
a Formula Atlantic car
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versus a Trans-Am car,
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is night and day.
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To go fast in a Formula Atlantic car,
you had to be smooth.
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The Trans-Am car,the engines in the front.
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It's a big high horse powercar with big tires on it.
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Trans-Am cars of that era were absolute
hand-made monsters.
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Eight hundred horse power engines.
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These cars, very quickly,
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told you whether you had the skillto get the most out of them.
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Being on the ranch sliding
those trucks and vehicles
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and all that. I mean, I learnedcar control at an early age.
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And that's what you neededwith that Trans-Am car.
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00:26:18,868 --> 00:26:22,622
Willy ended up being
way faster than I
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expected but I was certainly hoping for.
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Then I had a good teammateby the name of David Hobbs
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David Hobbs is a very
accomplished driver.
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Won a lot of races.
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IndyCars,Indy 500, Le Mans,
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00:26:34,134 --> 00:26:35,802
just everything.
436
00:26:35,885 --> 00:26:38,930
World renowned race car driver.
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First race was atMelrose Park in Florida
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when I met Willy andWilly became the second car.
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00:26:44,019 --> 00:26:46,313
I knew he was a very
nice personal young guy.
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And practice showed
he was pretty quick too.
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I was the designated
number two driver.
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00:26:52,736 --> 00:26:55,030
David Hobbs wasthe number one driver, period.
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00:26:55,113 --> 00:26:56,531
There was no argument.There was no question.
444
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There is a hierarchy ofhow things are done.
445
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The number one driver is going
to get the number one equipment.
446
00:27:03,830 --> 00:27:07,167
You get the best engines. You getall the best components.
447
00:27:08,793 --> 00:27:10,003
In auto racing,
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the title teammates
really doesn't apply.
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Because you're tryingto beat your teammate
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more than you're tryingto beat the other teams.
451
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Just to establish who's goingto be top dog on the team.
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00:27:24,184 --> 00:27:27,729
There was a motorimprovement that David got.
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A next generation intake manifold.
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To perk his car up a little bit.
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A real super motor, right?
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Now going to David's car.
You know and then,
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the one that's really good, but notthat good would go in Willy's car.
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If you were to putit on a clock,
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the number two driver is goingto be a half a second
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slower than the number one driver.And it was designed that way.
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00:27:49,542 --> 00:27:51,669
He didn't have
the car David had.
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Whether there wasan order or not.
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The deck is stacked against you.
You have to be very determined.
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My mindset was like my grandpa taught me.
That I had to be better.
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And I wasn't gonna let David Hobbsget in the way of that.
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He was the number one driveruntil we got to the first race.
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When qualifying was over,
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I was on the front row.
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He was behind me.
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And that didn't go over well.
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His fish and chips weren'ttasting too good.
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Dave and Willy were neck and neck.
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I mean they didn't have any fear.They were gonna be going for the lead
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pretty much no matter what it took.
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I lead the race untilI had a flat tire. The second race was
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Summit Point, West Virginia.
477
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Hobbs, he had that look on his face like,I'm coming for you.
478
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That's when my crew chiefsaid to me,
479
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"I had heard you were fast,
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but we had no idea you were that fast."I said,"You ain't seen nothing yet,
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wait till I've learned this thing.
I don't even know the car yet."
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The fourth racewas in Portland, Oregon.
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Willy and David went
to the front.
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And Willy took his first leadin a Trans-Am race.
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I was starting to learnhow to control tire wear
486
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and I just drove a smart race.
487
00:29:26,055 --> 00:29:27,724
It was just a good hardrace you know.
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00:29:27,891 --> 00:29:30,477
If he would have won, I wouldn'thave felt bad, and I hope he doesn't
489
00:29:30,685 --> 00:29:32,729
feel bad with me up front.
490
00:29:32,937 --> 00:29:36,733
It had been so longto get to victory circle.
491
00:29:36,816 --> 00:29:39,444
Going from a Formula Atlantic
car to a Trans-Am car,
492
00:29:39,527 --> 00:29:41,112
this is one of thosethings that might take someone
493
00:29:41,196 --> 00:29:44,240
a couple of yearsto figure out the nuances.
494
00:29:44,324 --> 00:29:47,619
How Willy adapted to this so soon,I genuinely don't know.
495
00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:52,123
It wasmy first professional win.
496
00:29:52,207 --> 00:29:54,542
And it was awesome. It felt good.
497
00:29:57,462 --> 00:29:59,714
It was no looking back after that.
498
00:30:02,342 --> 00:30:06,012
I was making no bones about"I'm here to win."
499
00:30:07,263 --> 00:30:09,307
And I'm not number two.
500
00:30:09,390 --> 00:30:12,519
His rookie year became a thingknown for winning.
501
00:30:12,769 --> 00:30:15,230
He made that statementright away.
502
00:30:15,522 --> 00:30:18,817
Guy in a racecar,tough ass series,
503
00:30:19,859 --> 00:30:21,986
bad ass competition.
504
00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:24,739
Kicking the shit out of them,more often than not.
505
00:30:28,076 --> 00:30:30,703
Willy was unbeatable in a Trans-Am car.
506
00:30:31,204 --> 00:30:32,622
He just flew.
507
00:30:35,250 --> 00:30:37,752
He was definitelythe number one driver.
508
00:30:37,836 --> 00:30:39,879
And I'm not sure that the team
509
00:30:39,963 --> 00:30:42,632
realized how fast Willy could be.
510
00:30:43,925 --> 00:30:46,010
As the yearprogressed, it was apparent
511
00:30:46,094 --> 00:30:49,013
that Willy was a very,very fast driver.
512
00:30:49,514 --> 00:30:54,185
But he certainly didn't make friends
very easily and he was very abrasive.
513
00:30:54,394 --> 00:30:58,106
Between me and my buddy
David Hobbs, it was personal.
514
00:30:58,815 --> 00:31:00,483
David knew that.
515
00:31:21,754 --> 00:31:25,633
Willy was a polarizing driverand he tended to torque
516
00:31:25,717 --> 00:31:29,053
some of the more delicate drivers.
517
00:31:29,178 --> 00:31:31,806
Some guys didn't like it.
He had a hard time dealing with them.
518
00:31:31,890 --> 00:31:34,893
Even if you are good,
you know, Jimmy Clark
519
00:31:35,351 --> 00:31:38,229
was the best.But he didn't make this known
520
00:31:38,313 --> 00:31:40,231
at every breath he took.
521
00:31:40,315 --> 00:31:42,859
Now I am one of the best driversin auto racing, period.
522
00:31:42,942 --> 00:31:46,613
Black, white, oriental, or Hispanic.Ray Charles can see that.
523
00:31:47,822 --> 00:31:50,074
There are folks who eitherlove that kind of personality,
524
00:31:50,158 --> 00:31:53,494
and there are those who don't.Uh, A.J. Foyt,
525
00:31:53,578 --> 00:31:55,121
four-time Indy 500 winner...
526
00:31:55,455 --> 00:31:58,499
Punch you in the mouthas quick as he'd say hello to you.
527
00:31:58,583 --> 00:32:01,586
I don't hear folkssaying they hate him.
528
00:32:01,669 --> 00:32:05,298
It wasn'tabout racing. It was about
529
00:32:05,381 --> 00:32:08,176
you're not toeing to subservient line.
530
00:32:09,886 --> 00:32:11,512
That was the attitude that
531
00:32:11,721 --> 00:32:15,183
team manager John Dick gave me.You're lucky to be here.
532
00:32:16,517 --> 00:32:19,145
John Dick was Hobbs' boy.
533
00:32:20,730 --> 00:32:24,359
It seemed as if John might
not have cared for Willy's
534
00:32:24,442 --> 00:32:29,322
showmanship ways and I thinkthe fact that he was as fast as David
535
00:32:29,405 --> 00:32:31,908
might've increased the friction.
536
00:32:31,991 --> 00:32:33,910
He wanted Hobbs to be
537
00:32:33,993 --> 00:32:36,371
the absolute number one.
538
00:32:38,414 --> 00:32:40,500
Well, that wasn't happening.
539
00:32:40,583 --> 00:32:43,628
So, halfway through
the '83 season,
540
00:32:43,711 --> 00:32:47,048
the team manager and I,we didn't talk at all.
541
00:32:48,216 --> 00:32:50,134
So this is just literally
a case of,
542
00:32:50,218 --> 00:32:51,678
"you don't belong here."
543
00:32:53,346 --> 00:32:55,223
I was called into the office and asked
544
00:32:55,306 --> 00:32:57,183
if I thought Willy should be let go.
545
00:32:59,227 --> 00:33:03,272
Second to the last race,
was Riverside, California.
546
00:33:03,356 --> 00:33:07,860
Hobbs, if he won the race,could clinch the championship.
547
00:33:07,944 --> 00:33:09,612
Before the race started,
548
00:33:09,696 --> 00:33:14,450
the owner asked me to finishsecond to Hobbs. And I said no.
549
00:33:14,951 --> 00:33:18,997
He says, "I would like you to finish
second to David Hobbs.
550
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,291
You're under orders."And I said,"All right,
551
00:33:22,375 --> 00:33:25,420
I'll do it. But you pay me
first place money."
552
00:33:25,503 --> 00:33:26,838
He said, "No, I'm not going
to do that."
553
00:33:26,921 --> 00:33:29,882
I said, "Well, then no, I'm not going
to finish second.
554
00:33:29,966 --> 00:33:34,429
You guarantee me first place money,
and then I'll take a powder."
555
00:33:35,763 --> 00:33:38,683
Right before I got readyto put in gear to move off,
556
00:33:38,808 --> 00:33:40,184
he said, "Okay."
557
00:33:42,770 --> 00:33:46,983
Hobbs won the race,clenched the championship.
558
00:33:47,066 --> 00:33:52,155
The next race was Las Vegas,
and I left him.
559
00:33:53,531 --> 00:33:56,159
Ribbs coming outof turn number one. Grabs the lead...
560
00:33:56,826 --> 00:33:58,119
It was cake.
561
00:33:58,202 --> 00:34:00,580
Memorize thatnumber and color 28,
562
00:34:00,955 --> 00:34:03,374
red and white, Willy T. Ribbs.
563
00:34:04,292 --> 00:34:05,835
But the checkered flag comes out
564
00:34:05,918 --> 00:34:07,670
and it is Willy T. Ribbs winning
565
00:34:07,754 --> 00:34:11,549
the Caesars Palace Grand Prixfor Trans-Am cars.
566
00:34:12,050 --> 00:34:13,509
I won rookie of the year.
567
00:34:13,593 --> 00:34:16,137
In the end I won the championship.
And he was not very happy.
568
00:34:16,220 --> 00:34:17,722
And made it pretty known.
569
00:34:17,805 --> 00:34:20,183
When I left Las Vegas,I knew
570
00:34:20,266 --> 00:34:22,560
who the man was in Trans-Am.
571
00:34:28,566 --> 00:34:31,444
I was looking forward to 1984.
572
00:34:32,070 --> 00:34:35,239
I had championship on my mind.
573
00:34:35,448 --> 00:34:38,785
We were not going to be with the Camaros,we were transitioning
574
00:34:38,868 --> 00:34:40,953
to the Corvette. It was a whole
575
00:34:41,037 --> 00:34:45,041
different chassis, andsuspension geometry and
576
00:34:45,124 --> 00:34:46,876
I was looking forward to it.
577
00:34:46,959 --> 00:34:50,463
I came back asDavid Hobbs' teammate,
578
00:34:50,755 --> 00:34:54,759
but not number two.
And I made that clear.
579
00:34:58,096 --> 00:35:00,681
Road Atlantawas the first race of the year,
580
00:35:00,765 --> 00:35:02,308
and I knew there wasa new driver
581
00:35:02,391 --> 00:35:03,976
that was coming intothe series named
582
00:35:04,060 --> 00:35:07,480
Bob Lobenberg. And I knew thathe was a bit of a pop off.
583
00:35:08,231 --> 00:35:09,732
Sunday morning warm-up.
584
00:35:09,899 --> 00:35:11,526
Went out on the track.
585
00:35:11,901 --> 00:35:16,364
We had an issue. We were going downinto the dip, about 190 miles per hour.
586
00:35:16,864 --> 00:35:19,909
He's right next to me,
and he forced me off the road.
587
00:35:24,789 --> 00:35:26,541
When someone runs
someone else off the road,
588
00:35:26,624 --> 00:35:29,544
it's kinda like pointing a gun
at him and pulling the trigger.
589
00:35:29,627 --> 00:35:31,254
I ran down to his car.
590
00:35:31,337 --> 00:35:33,047
And I yelled at him and
591
00:35:33,131 --> 00:35:34,215
I hit him in the helmet.
592
00:35:35,758 --> 00:35:39,387
If a driver was out there
driving and somebody cut them off,
593
00:35:39,470 --> 00:35:43,015
at the end of the racethey fought it out.
594
00:35:43,099 --> 00:35:46,686
And there's a fight! BetweenCale Yarborough and Donnie Allison.
595
00:35:46,769 --> 00:35:48,479
Every night at the local track
596
00:35:48,563 --> 00:35:52,483
we'd have a good fistfight after the race
or in between the races or something.
597
00:35:52,567 --> 00:35:54,068
That was just part of
598
00:35:54,152 --> 00:35:56,028
racing.
599
00:35:56,279 --> 00:36:00,741
Muhammad Ali told me,you might have to take care of yourself.
600
00:36:00,825 --> 00:36:02,743
He said, "Know how to fight."
601
00:36:02,827 --> 00:36:04,620
So that's what I went and did.
602
00:36:06,164 --> 00:36:07,832
I was in condition to go
603
00:36:07,915 --> 00:36:10,501
toe to toe with anybodyin the racetrack.
604
00:36:10,710 --> 00:36:13,462
Now the confrontation
I had with Lobenberg
605
00:36:13,546 --> 00:36:15,506
was a Deacon Jones head slap.
606
00:36:15,756 --> 00:36:17,884
Might hurt his feelings,
but it didn't hurt him.
607
00:36:17,967 --> 00:36:22,221
John Dick went down tosay, "Hey, hey, hey," and calmed it out.
608
00:36:22,305 --> 00:36:24,640
Then Willy had an altercation
with our John Dick.
609
00:36:24,849 --> 00:36:28,936
That provided the out
for the team to part ways.
610
00:36:29,270 --> 00:36:30,396
I was fired.
611
00:36:31,731 --> 00:36:32,857
Fired.
612
00:36:33,691 --> 00:36:36,944
What we had on the track,that was between me and Lobenberg.
613
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,530
We're two men,
let us get it handled.
614
00:36:39,614 --> 00:36:40,990
You people stay out of it.
615
00:36:41,157 --> 00:36:42,783
And that's how it shouldhave been left.
616
00:36:44,493 --> 00:36:46,996
If you want to be successful
you got to do what you're told
617
00:36:47,079 --> 00:36:49,415
and Willy's just never beenthat kind of person.
618
00:36:50,958 --> 00:36:53,085
Here we go again.
619
00:36:53,169 --> 00:36:56,255
How long is it going to bebefore I drive again.
620
00:37:01,636 --> 00:37:04,889
The phone rang
and it was a German accent.
621
00:37:05,890 --> 00:37:07,099
It was Michael Kranefuss,
622
00:37:07,183 --> 00:37:11,103
the director of special vehiclesoperation of Ford Motor Company.
623
00:37:12,021 --> 00:37:13,189
"If you want,
624
00:37:13,272 --> 00:37:16,567
we are very interested in
you to come to Detroit
625
00:37:16,651 --> 00:37:21,906
because we would like to put you in a car.I have Edsel Ford on the line."
626
00:37:22,031 --> 00:37:24,700
And then Edsel came onand he says,
627
00:37:24,784 --> 00:37:26,452
"You can be Willy T. Ribbs.
628
00:37:27,245 --> 00:37:29,247
We just want you to win"
629
00:37:29,872 --> 00:37:34,794
Sunday night I was unemployed,on Monday morning I was employed.
630
00:37:35,127 --> 00:37:37,129
I was on an airplaneheaded to Detroit
631
00:37:37,213 --> 00:37:39,173
to Jack Roush's facility.
632
00:37:39,882 --> 00:37:43,386
He's an interesting character.He's a PhD mathematician.
633
00:37:43,636 --> 00:37:48,182
Really strong opinion on how things
should be. For better and for worse.
634
00:37:48,557 --> 00:37:52,061
Brilliant mind, he wouldnever be accused though
635
00:37:52,144 --> 00:37:53,688
of having any social graces.
636
00:37:54,188 --> 00:37:55,439
He took me around.
637
00:37:55,523 --> 00:37:57,817
Showed me his dynosand told me that
638
00:37:57,900 --> 00:38:01,445
you're going to have horse power.He's got engines in there running
639
00:38:02,029 --> 00:38:03,948
for 48 hours straight.
640
00:38:04,031 --> 00:38:05,950
Almost psychotic,
641
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,120
with his focus on engine power.
642
00:38:10,871 --> 00:38:14,083
I missed four racesbecause Roush
643
00:38:14,166 --> 00:38:15,793
and Ford were building me
644
00:38:15,876 --> 00:38:17,253
a brand new car.
645
00:38:17,336 --> 00:38:19,255
Missing the first fourraces has made
646
00:38:19,338 --> 00:38:22,341
it impossible for me to winthe championship.
647
00:38:22,425 --> 00:38:25,177
But it's not impossiblefor me to win this race.
648
00:38:25,261 --> 00:38:27,722
Looks likeWilly T. Ribbs is followed by
649
00:38:27,805 --> 00:38:30,641
Greg Pickett and David Hobbsin the DeAtley Corvette.
650
00:38:32,435 --> 00:38:33,811
There's the leader Willy T. Ribbs
651
00:38:33,894 --> 00:38:37,773
in the number 64Roush Protofab Mercury Capri.
652
00:38:38,607 --> 00:38:40,192
It was effortless
653
00:38:40,276 --> 00:38:42,361
to get in that car and go fast.
654
00:38:42,486 --> 00:38:46,782
It had massive power.Great handling characteristics
655
00:38:46,991 --> 00:38:49,243
that were better than DeAtley had.
656
00:38:50,619 --> 00:38:55,249
And we have a winnerof the Texas Challenge Trans-Am.
657
00:38:55,333 --> 00:38:57,084
There was a lot of talk aboutthe track conditions.
658
00:38:57,168 --> 00:38:58,502
How was the track for you?
659
00:38:58,711 --> 00:39:02,298
Fantastic, I mean it was
better than my bed at home.
660
00:39:02,673 --> 00:39:04,508
As we were goingto the press room,
661
00:39:04,592 --> 00:39:06,844
I walked by the DeAtley pit.
662
00:39:06,969 --> 00:39:08,429
I looked at my old mechanics
663
00:39:08,512 --> 00:39:11,807
Pat McFall and Jeff Schwarzand they smiled.
664
00:39:12,183 --> 00:39:14,852
They were happy,
because they knew what went on.
665
00:39:14,935 --> 00:39:16,854
One of my professional regrets
666
00:39:17,313 --> 00:39:20,232
was not following Willy to Roush.
667
00:39:20,316 --> 00:39:24,403
Because you want to hitch your wagonto an exceptional talent.
668
00:39:24,570 --> 00:39:27,114
And Willy was an exceptional talent.
669
00:39:27,198 --> 00:39:28,824
Even though Willyhas only competed
670
00:39:28,908 --> 00:39:30,576
in three races this year,
671
00:39:30,659 --> 00:39:33,454
he is sixth in the point standings.
672
00:39:33,621 --> 00:39:37,208
He finished second in Detroitand has won the last two races.
673
00:39:37,291 --> 00:39:38,876
After my third victory,
674
00:39:38,959 --> 00:39:42,546
I thought, "I gotta do
something special."
675
00:39:42,838 --> 00:39:45,216
Helio Castroneves climbs the fence.
676
00:39:49,804 --> 00:39:52,223
Alex Zanardi did the donuts.
677
00:39:52,932 --> 00:39:54,642
Before them,
678
00:39:54,725 --> 00:39:56,936
Willy T. Got on top of his roof
679
00:39:57,019 --> 00:39:58,562
and did the Ali shuffle.
680
00:40:02,775 --> 00:40:06,320
I loved Willy T.'s attitude.I loved it when
681
00:40:06,487 --> 00:40:08,489
he won the race and got
on the roof,
682
00:40:08,572 --> 00:40:11,409
did the Ali shuffle.That was Willy.
683
00:40:11,492 --> 00:40:13,953
I was doing it forthe fans.
684
00:40:14,036 --> 00:40:16,789
Now, if you don't want meto do that,
685
00:40:17,248 --> 00:40:18,874
then beat me.
686
00:40:18,958 --> 00:40:22,086
Our leader once againWilly T. Ribbs out in front.
687
00:40:22,169 --> 00:40:25,798
10,000 people on one mound, 10,000
on the other. 15,000 in the bleachers.
688
00:40:25,881 --> 00:40:29,718
All to come see if the big talking driver
Willy T. Could win again.
689
00:40:29,802 --> 00:40:31,387
There weren't really many
690
00:40:31,554 --> 00:40:35,099
people that were used
to drivers that would talk trash
691
00:40:35,182 --> 00:40:36,725
and get out there and
692
00:40:36,809 --> 00:40:38,144
get in front of the cameras.A lot of people weren't
693
00:40:38,227 --> 00:40:39,311
used to that.
694
00:40:39,395 --> 00:40:40,229
Willy says,
695
00:40:40,563 --> 00:40:43,524
"Press is press,
bad press is still press."
696
00:40:44,275 --> 00:40:45,818
At the time all this was happening,
697
00:40:46,026 --> 00:40:51,824
it was almost impossible
for most racers not to have
698
00:40:51,907 --> 00:40:54,243
a racial aspect to it.
699
00:40:54,452 --> 00:40:56,787
You know, a white guy wouldn't do that.
700
00:40:58,164 --> 00:41:00,249
Who's thisblack son of a bitch
701
00:41:01,167 --> 00:41:02,793
think he is?
702
00:41:02,877 --> 00:41:06,881
People talk behind our backs.About you know, "What are
703
00:41:06,964 --> 00:41:09,133
these N people here for?"
704
00:41:09,216 --> 00:41:10,926
You know,"They don't belong here."
705
00:41:12,928 --> 00:41:14,472
He's throwingit in our face.
706
00:41:14,722 --> 00:41:15,931
He's Uppity.
707
00:41:16,015 --> 00:41:18,767
You guys, what do youexpect me to do?
708
00:41:18,851 --> 00:41:21,770
Do you expect me to bea second-class citizen to you?
709
00:41:23,689 --> 00:41:27,693
You are not entitled over me.
710
00:41:29,028 --> 00:41:31,572
And that was the reasonthey called me Uppity.
711
00:41:32,907 --> 00:41:34,074
Uppity Nigger.
712
00:41:35,534 --> 00:41:37,161
And I loved it.
713
00:41:37,661 --> 00:41:39,497
'Cause that's what you'regoing to be dealing with.
714
00:41:43,083 --> 00:41:44,668
This one team thatI worked for,
715
00:41:44,752 --> 00:41:47,463
we weren't even in the seriesWilly was racing in.
716
00:41:47,546 --> 00:41:48,672
I'm just sitting there,
717
00:41:48,756 --> 00:41:51,842
listening to this guy that
I work with use the N word like
718
00:41:51,926 --> 00:41:53,802
it's Willy's first name.
719
00:41:53,886 --> 00:41:57,139
The old guards, the old mechanicsin the sport. That was my name.
720
00:41:57,598 --> 00:41:59,642
It wasn't Willy T. It was nigger.
721
00:42:00,726 --> 00:42:04,480
I used to go into the bathroom stalls.I used to see it all the time.
722
00:42:04,563 --> 00:42:06,941
Willy T. Nigger Ribbs.
723
00:42:08,859 --> 00:42:10,361
I thought that was funny.
724
00:42:11,362 --> 00:42:14,156
Okay, I'm going to give you
725
00:42:14,573 --> 00:42:17,910
an opportunity to writeit even more when the race is over.
726
00:42:20,329 --> 00:42:21,956
You wanna be mad?
727
00:42:22,039 --> 00:42:24,708
I'll give you more reasons to be mad.
728
00:42:28,796 --> 00:42:31,006
I won four out of eight races
729
00:42:31,090 --> 00:42:33,425
that I competed in in 1984.
730
00:42:39,056 --> 00:42:41,809
Final race of the year was Las Vegas.
731
00:42:41,892 --> 00:42:44,728
After the race, a guycomes up to me
732
00:42:44,812 --> 00:42:47,815
and says "Don King would
like to meet you."
733
00:42:50,067 --> 00:42:51,569
Don King was regarded
734
00:42:51,652 --> 00:42:54,071
as one of the sportsbiggest scum bags.
735
00:42:54,154 --> 00:42:55,990
But he was also atthe height of his power.
736
00:42:56,991 --> 00:42:58,701
So when Don King calls
737
00:42:58,784 --> 00:43:04,081
you take it, because this is a personwho could make you a star.
738
00:43:04,415 --> 00:43:07,918
"Willy T., Willy T., sit down."
739
00:43:08,085 --> 00:43:11,547
And he went right to it."You're the Muhammad Ali
740
00:43:11,797 --> 00:43:13,299
of auto racing.
741
00:43:13,382 --> 00:43:15,384
I'll make you a superstar."
742
00:43:15,759 --> 00:43:18,596
My ultimate goal was IndyCar.
743
00:43:18,679 --> 00:43:21,724
I knew Don King couldhelp me get there.
744
00:43:22,141 --> 00:43:24,518
His lawyer, Charles Lomax
was his name.
745
00:43:24,602 --> 00:43:28,564
Sent a contract, and it was the mostbizarre contract I've ever seen.
746
00:43:28,647 --> 00:43:32,860
The options were all in his favor.
The percentages were insane.
747
00:43:33,068 --> 00:43:37,489
He had an open-ended
expense account.
748
00:43:37,573 --> 00:43:42,119
It took over six weeksjust to get the contract reasonable.
749
00:43:42,286 --> 00:43:43,579
We were exing out full pages.
750
00:43:43,787 --> 00:43:45,497
We flew back down there.
751
00:43:46,999 --> 00:43:48,334
Don Kings' lawyer,
752
00:43:48,500 --> 00:43:50,169
looked at my lawyer and says,
753
00:43:50,753 --> 00:43:52,546
"Fuck these niggers."
754
00:43:52,630 --> 00:43:53,964
My lawyer, he couldn't say anything.
755
00:43:54,048 --> 00:43:55,466
He didn't wanna get into
756
00:43:55,549 --> 00:43:57,051
N word conflict.
757
00:43:57,134 --> 00:44:01,055
But I went angry Ribbs on him."Look, you Jheri curled idiot.
758
00:44:01,513 --> 00:44:05,726
These fighters that you guys signed
can't read and write, and they're honored
759
00:44:05,809 --> 00:44:08,896
to be in the companyof Don King.
760
00:44:08,979 --> 00:44:10,689
I'm honored to do business.
761
00:44:10,773 --> 00:44:13,025
But I'm not honored
to be in your company."
762
00:44:13,359 --> 00:44:17,488
Lomex, he says, "Don, we don't
need these sons of bitches. Fuck 'em.
763
00:44:17,571 --> 00:44:20,866
I don't want you to sign it.
But if you want to sign it, you sign it."
764
00:44:21,283 --> 00:44:25,871
I looked at Don. I said,
"No guts, no glory, Don."
765
00:44:27,581 --> 00:44:28,832
He signed it.
766
00:44:28,916 --> 00:44:32,211
Don announced that he wasrepresenting Willy T. Ribbs.
767
00:44:32,503 --> 00:44:34,004
And Don went to work right on.
768
00:44:34,088 --> 00:44:36,632
He had a connection
at Miller Brewing Company.
769
00:44:37,383 --> 00:44:39,343
He called them. He says, "I need
770
00:44:39,426 --> 00:44:41,845
you guys to put Willy T. Ribbsin the Indy 500."
771
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:45,933
I went to Indy.
772
00:44:46,392 --> 00:44:52,356
It was like being on a date
with the hottest girl on the planet.
773
00:44:52,606 --> 00:44:57,736
Your tail was wagging, baby.
My tail was like a goddamn bird dog.
774
00:44:58,654 --> 00:44:59,655
Gentlemen...
775
00:44:59,988 --> 00:45:00,864
Start...
776
00:45:00,948 --> 00:45:02,324
your engines.
777
00:45:08,163 --> 00:45:10,082
Oh they went side by side.
778
00:45:10,165 --> 00:45:11,417
Whoa, look at this!
779
00:45:11,500 --> 00:45:13,919
He just passes him.He just drove past him!
780
00:45:14,002 --> 00:45:17,005
Checkered flag for Rick Mears.He's won the Indianapolis 500
781
00:45:17,131 --> 00:45:18,465
with a hand in the air.
782
00:45:21,427 --> 00:45:24,888
I became a fan
of Willy T.'s immediately.
783
00:45:24,972 --> 00:45:28,100
As an African-American you didn't havea lot of options as
784
00:45:28,183 --> 00:45:32,438
it relates to seeing somebody
who looks like yourself on the racetrack.
785
00:45:33,897 --> 00:45:38,026
In the maintenance crewyou probably had 25 African-Americans.
786
00:45:38,110 --> 00:45:41,822
So the time that we found outthat Willy was coming, uh...
787
00:45:41,905 --> 00:45:45,492
There was a huge buzz,and, uh, he told me, he said,
788
00:45:45,576 --> 00:45:48,120
"If it could be done,
that he was going to do it."
789
00:45:48,203 --> 00:45:50,289
Well, Willy T. Is at Indy.
790
00:45:50,372 --> 00:45:53,459
Is that your slogan for this year?
Come on in here, young man.
791
00:45:53,542 --> 00:45:56,920
Congratulations, your moment
has finally arrived at Indianapolis.
792
00:45:57,004 --> 00:46:01,633
Thank you, well, I'm happy to be here
and it's a big moment for me.
793
00:46:01,842 --> 00:46:03,260
Hopefully uh,
794
00:46:03,427 --> 00:46:05,179
we'll be in shape to do the job.
795
00:46:06,013 --> 00:46:08,015
Before every Indy 500,
796
00:46:08,098 --> 00:46:09,933
every team goes to Phoenix
797
00:46:10,017 --> 00:46:11,768
a month before, and they practice
798
00:46:11,852 --> 00:46:13,103
and they test.
799
00:46:15,606 --> 00:46:16,940
I got none of that.
800
00:46:17,316 --> 00:46:18,275
None.
801
00:46:18,358 --> 00:46:20,694
You gotta practice with it,
and test with it.
802
00:46:20,819 --> 00:46:25,908
That means you can physically
go try to make your race car good.
803
00:46:26,074 --> 00:46:28,494
And that's what he didn't have.
804
00:46:28,577 --> 00:46:31,079
It was rushed together.
805
00:46:32,748 --> 00:46:33,916
Show up at the racetrack.
806
00:46:33,999 --> 00:46:37,294
The new team owned bySherman Armstrong in Winchester, Indiana
807
00:46:37,377 --> 00:46:40,547
was not put together untilabout 48 hours ago.
808
00:46:40,631 --> 00:46:44,009
And the new March chassiswas not ready for testing.
809
00:46:44,092 --> 00:46:46,011
Don King broughtMiller Beer to the party
810
00:46:46,094 --> 00:46:47,804
for Willy T.'s firstIndy 500 attempt.
811
00:46:47,888 --> 00:46:50,599
Unfortunately partnered withSherman Armstrong's team.
812
00:46:50,766 --> 00:46:51,892
You could not have brought
813
00:46:51,975 --> 00:46:55,562
that money to a team thatcared less about putting a black man
814
00:46:55,646 --> 00:46:56,980
in the Indy 500.
815
00:46:58,148 --> 00:47:00,150
Paul Leffler was the chief mechanic.
816
00:47:00,234 --> 00:47:01,777
And the guy wouldn't talk to me.
817
00:47:01,944 --> 00:47:05,447
I got no information. I got notechnical information.
818
00:47:08,283 --> 00:47:10,118
People don't realizefirst gear in Indianapolis is
819
00:47:10,202 --> 00:47:11,745
over 90 miles an hour.
820
00:47:11,828 --> 00:47:13,997
You're driving at over 220 miles per hour
821
00:47:14,081 --> 00:47:15,791
down the front straight away
at Indianapolis.
822
00:47:15,874 --> 00:47:17,876
When you're looking
into turn one down there
823
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,922
you look like you're drivinginto a dead end street.
824
00:47:22,005 --> 00:47:24,758
Can't see around it.
You can't see on the other side.
825
00:47:25,050 --> 00:47:27,344
It looks like a dark problem.
826
00:47:27,427 --> 00:47:29,054
You had a big risk
827
00:47:29,763 --> 00:47:30,889
of getting hurt.
828
00:47:33,392 --> 00:47:35,352
Paul didn't say,"All right this is the stage
829
00:47:35,435 --> 00:47:36,395
I want you to do,"
830
00:47:36,478 --> 00:47:38,647
and "This is what youshould feel." It was
831
00:47:38,730 --> 00:47:40,732
"Get in the car and
just drive around."
832
00:47:40,816 --> 00:47:45,237
And I did not understand
what I was doing.
833
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:49,992
All he needed was a good car
and somebody to work with him.
834
00:47:50,075 --> 00:47:52,494
And like teach him like at Indianapolis,
835
00:47:52,578 --> 00:47:54,746
there's four corners,but they're all different.
836
00:47:56,748 --> 00:47:59,918
Willy T. Indicated that there
was somebody on the team
837
00:48:00,294 --> 00:48:03,463
that would prefer not
to have had him around.
838
00:48:03,714 --> 00:48:06,925
If you're not getting along
with the engineer
839
00:48:07,009 --> 00:48:09,303
its real easy for himto make you look bad.
840
00:48:09,428 --> 00:48:11,346
Engineer is going toprove that he's right
841
00:48:11,430 --> 00:48:12,931
and you're wrong. It doesn't matter
842
00:48:13,015 --> 00:48:15,601
and he's gonna--
I mean you're done.
843
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,021
It felt eerie dealingwith the guy.
844
00:48:19,104 --> 00:48:21,648
Like he was an executioner.
845
00:48:22,482 --> 00:48:24,901
Driving on a road courseis one thing.
846
00:48:24,985 --> 00:48:28,655
But driving aroundIndy, is totally different.
847
00:48:28,739 --> 00:48:30,324
Has nothing to do with
848
00:48:30,616 --> 00:48:32,200
how much balls you got.
849
00:48:32,284 --> 00:48:35,370
It's got everything to do with
how much brains you have.
850
00:48:35,537 --> 00:48:39,249
Indy is so fast. The dangers are so great.
851
00:48:44,338 --> 00:48:47,841
If you make a minor mistake
you could be in the wall.
852
00:48:48,133 --> 00:48:51,011
And you could take off
half the side of the car.
853
00:48:51,094 --> 00:48:53,180
A lot of guys got killed
in a race car.
854
00:48:53,263 --> 00:48:54,473
Sometimes two in one night.
855
00:48:54,598 --> 00:48:56,224
Sometimes two in one wreck!
856
00:48:59,603 --> 00:49:01,396
You gotta have brains at Indy.
857
00:49:02,064 --> 00:49:03,065
The ones with balls
858
00:49:05,192 --> 00:49:06,360
are dead.
859
00:49:08,487 --> 00:49:12,699
They fitted me into the car.I was up too high.
860
00:49:12,908 --> 00:49:16,244
And it wasn't explained to me
that the air going over the top
861
00:49:16,328 --> 00:49:19,164
of a round surface causes lift.
862
00:49:19,289 --> 00:49:21,083
Windscreens madeout of plastic doesn't
863
00:49:21,208 --> 00:49:23,960
sound like much, but dependingon how high it is or how
864
00:49:24,044 --> 00:49:27,089
low it is really affectsthe buffeting on a driver's helmet.
865
00:49:27,297 --> 00:49:29,549
You've got this
200 mile an hour wind that's
866
00:49:29,633 --> 00:49:31,051
throwing your head around.
867
00:49:31,134 --> 00:49:34,054
When you get in a carthat's probably not handling really good
868
00:49:34,137 --> 00:49:36,014
and all of a sudden you're askedto go through turn one
869
00:49:36,098 --> 00:49:38,517
flat out or almost flat
at 220 miles per hour.
870
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,686
You start thinking about
your well-being a little bit.
871
00:49:40,977 --> 00:49:43,772
That thing was a bucketthat I wouldn't have sat in.
872
00:49:44,564 --> 00:49:48,860
I don't care who got in that car.
It would've scared the shit out of them.
873
00:49:49,361 --> 00:49:53,407
There was a lot of guys on that team atthe time that Willy was driving for that
874
00:49:53,490 --> 00:49:56,576
did not want to seeWilly in that race car.
875
00:49:56,660 --> 00:50:01,581
They were basically forcedto prepare that car for Willy to show up.
876
00:50:01,748 --> 00:50:04,334
They didn't want to be there.
For whatever reason.
877
00:50:04,418 --> 00:50:07,587
This stupid littlewindscreen put on the car
878
00:50:07,671 --> 00:50:10,382
intentionally low. It's there.
879
00:50:10,465 --> 00:50:12,551
There's no questionthat it's there. But you really
880
00:50:12,634 --> 00:50:15,595
have to be an insider.Very discerning person,
881
00:50:15,679 --> 00:50:17,347
to know that it is too low.
882
00:50:17,431 --> 00:50:21,268
And as you're coming up to turn one,a corner that has killed far
883
00:50:21,351 --> 00:50:24,312
too many people. Imagine getting there
at 200 miles an hour.
884
00:50:24,396 --> 00:50:28,150
Your head moving around.
And you can't actually focus your eyes
885
00:50:28,233 --> 00:50:31,903
on the corner to turnand hit that apex.
886
00:50:32,070 --> 00:50:34,740
My mechanics,they were good people.
887
00:50:34,823 --> 00:50:37,367
But they take ordersfrom Paul Leffler.
888
00:50:38,243 --> 00:50:40,996
I knew he was the most
889
00:50:41,079 --> 00:50:44,082
racist individual I had met so far.
890
00:50:46,042 --> 00:50:48,462
He'd never seen anybody
like Willy T. Ribbs.
891
00:50:50,422 --> 00:50:51,923
I felt helpless.
892
00:50:53,175 --> 00:50:54,551
I called Jim Trueman, I said,
893
00:50:54,634 --> 00:50:58,722
"Jim, what do you think?"He says, "Get out of there."
894
00:51:00,182 --> 00:51:01,308
And so I left.
895
00:51:02,476 --> 00:51:05,479
And by noon on Saturday,
896
00:51:05,562 --> 00:51:08,565
Willy T. Packed up andhad gone home.
897
00:51:08,648 --> 00:51:11,985
Thing about it is, you know,
you can get hurt here
898
00:51:12,068 --> 00:51:13,487
and you gotta do things right.
899
00:51:13,570 --> 00:51:17,491
If it doesn't feel right then
you don't run here.
900
00:51:17,574 --> 00:51:20,035
And the press crucified me.
901
00:51:35,926 --> 00:51:39,012
The drivers knew that
Willy T. Ribbs wasn't chicken.
902
00:51:39,095 --> 00:51:44,309
I never thought for a second
that he was afraid of the speed.
903
00:51:44,392 --> 00:51:47,521
Willy as a driver was certainly
capable of driving anything
904
00:51:47,646 --> 00:51:49,231
that IndyCar could've thrown at him.
905
00:51:49,898 --> 00:51:51,566
Even though we knew
the circumstances,
906
00:51:51,650 --> 00:51:54,444
Willy was basically throwninto the fire on that deal.
907
00:51:54,611 --> 00:51:56,905
And it was a no-winsituation for him.
908
00:51:57,197 --> 00:52:01,618
People were waiting for him to fail.
They were waiting for him to fail.
909
00:52:01,701 --> 00:52:05,330
All they're looking for is
confirmation of their beliefs.
910
00:52:05,413 --> 00:52:06,873
That you don't belong.
911
00:52:08,917 --> 00:52:11,503
Chicken and ribs.
That was on the menu for the
912
00:52:11,586 --> 00:52:13,713
1985 Indy 500.
913
00:52:14,798 --> 00:52:16,633
That was the first time
really you know
914
00:52:16,716 --> 00:52:18,927
in Willy's career thathe got laughed at.
915
00:52:20,011 --> 00:52:23,765
Got a lot of criticismfor walking away from that.
916
00:52:23,849 --> 00:52:26,852
But he wasn't about
to kill himself.
917
00:52:30,355 --> 00:52:33,024
With Willy's first attempt
to make the Indy 500
918
00:52:33,108 --> 00:52:36,862
ending in a sad and honestly
somewhat embarrassing fashion.
919
00:52:37,070 --> 00:52:40,282
He went back to a place that he knew
where he was comfortable. It was Trans-Am.
920
00:52:42,617 --> 00:52:45,370
The teams, they asked me,
"Well, who would you like as your teammate
921
00:52:45,453 --> 00:52:49,291
in 1985, do you want to staywith Pickett or do you want Wally?"
922
00:52:49,708 --> 00:52:50,750
So I said Wally.
923
00:52:50,834 --> 00:52:55,213
I just liked him. He was a cleanrace driver. And I knew he was fast.
924
00:52:55,672 --> 00:52:58,216
In the first coupleraces of the '85 season,
925
00:52:58,300 --> 00:53:00,635
we were there to kick everybody's asses.
926
00:53:11,187 --> 00:53:13,857
First five racesWilly and Wally take three wins
927
00:53:13,940 --> 00:53:16,985
and they move intothe sixth race at Portland.
928
00:53:17,068 --> 00:53:18,737
The points standingscoming into Portland,
929
00:53:18,820 --> 00:53:21,323
you had Willy in firstand you had Wally in second.
930
00:53:21,406 --> 00:53:23,950
It was a pretty epic battle
between Willy and I.
931
00:53:24,075 --> 00:53:26,202
And I knew if I made one mistake,
932
00:53:26,369 --> 00:53:27,913
he was going to pounce.
933
00:53:30,540 --> 00:53:32,792
Wally, he didbeat him in Portland
934
00:53:32,876 --> 00:53:34,294
and Willy finished second,
935
00:53:34,502 --> 00:53:36,254
which kinda woke Willy up
a little bit.
936
00:53:36,338 --> 00:53:37,797
And that's really
when things changed
937
00:53:37,881 --> 00:53:39,257
between Willy and I.
938
00:53:39,341 --> 00:53:40,675
I think Willy just said,"You know what?
939
00:53:40,759 --> 00:53:42,677
I might have to dealwith this guy."
940
00:53:42,761 --> 00:53:45,597
I don't believe we saidtwo words to each other
941
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,140
the rest of the season.
942
00:53:48,975 --> 00:53:50,518
Halfway through the '85 season,
943
00:53:50,602 --> 00:53:53,188
Wally and I were really
competitive with each other.
944
00:53:53,271 --> 00:53:55,357
We were racing each otherin practice.
945
00:53:55,482 --> 00:53:56,775
One particular race,
946
00:53:56,858 --> 00:53:59,736
we were coming out of the hotel
at the same time
947
00:53:59,986 --> 00:54:01,363
to go to the race that morning.
948
00:54:01,529 --> 00:54:03,239
And we were both in rental cars.
949
00:54:03,323 --> 00:54:06,326
I know Days of Thunder
took that scene from us.
950
00:54:06,785 --> 00:54:09,329
We kinda lookedat each other, and that was it.
951
00:54:09,412 --> 00:54:12,791
We tore those rental cars up.
952
00:54:12,874 --> 00:54:15,293
We were in the median.We were in the grass.
953
00:54:15,377 --> 00:54:17,003
We were banging off of each other.
954
00:54:17,087 --> 00:54:20,799
We were actuallygoing down the opposite lane.
955
00:54:20,882 --> 00:54:23,677
My oncoming car
came by me on my right.
956
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,429
If we ever got caught doing what
we were doing on that road
957
00:54:26,554 --> 00:54:28,264
from the hotel to the racetrack,
958
00:54:28,348 --> 00:54:29,933
we would have been thrownin jail forever.
959
00:54:30,016 --> 00:54:31,267
After two miles of that,
960
00:54:31,351 --> 00:54:33,895
pulled in, brakes were smoking.
961
00:54:33,979 --> 00:54:35,939
We got out of the cars
at the same time
962
00:54:36,022 --> 00:54:38,233
and it was just kinda like,
963
00:54:38,525 --> 00:54:41,194
in all the races, in all the yearsI've raced against Willy,
964
00:54:41,277 --> 00:54:43,405
that was the best race
that we ever had.
965
00:54:50,036 --> 00:54:52,205
In Detroit, the Trans-Am race
966
00:54:52,288 --> 00:54:54,541
ran with the Formula One race,
967
00:54:54,749 --> 00:54:56,876
right around the Ford building.
968
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,588
Bernie Ecclestonewas over because of the Formula One.
969
00:55:00,672 --> 00:55:02,716
I didn't want to be in Trans-Am
for the rest of my life.
970
00:55:02,799 --> 00:55:05,093
I wanted to move on
to my ultimate goal.
971
00:55:08,972 --> 00:55:11,349
Don King flies into Detroit.
972
00:55:11,433 --> 00:55:14,436
Don says, "I want to seeBernie Ecclestone."
973
00:55:14,519 --> 00:55:16,980
And you should've seen
the look on the face of Roush.
974
00:55:17,063 --> 00:55:19,524
It wouldn't betoo strange to assume that
975
00:55:19,607 --> 00:55:22,152
that rubbed Jack Roush
the wrong way.
976
00:55:22,444 --> 00:55:24,446
We go up to Bernie's room,
977
00:55:25,238 --> 00:55:26,948
Bernie looks at Don and says,
978
00:55:27,032 --> 00:55:29,909
"What are we going to do
with our boy Willy here?"
979
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,412
He's going to be the world champion.
Formula One world champion.
980
00:55:33,621 --> 00:55:36,207
"Ah, good," I said."That's handy, that's nice."
981
00:55:37,792 --> 00:55:41,337
It was planned whenthe Trans-Am season was over,
982
00:55:41,504 --> 00:55:42,839
I was going to go and test
983
00:55:42,922 --> 00:55:45,759
his Formula One car in Portugal.
984
00:55:52,223 --> 00:55:54,059
Jack Roushwas always known to be
985
00:55:54,142 --> 00:55:56,144
a very possessive person.
986
00:55:57,228 --> 00:55:59,481
Someone who, if you drovefor him, you were his.
987
00:56:01,274 --> 00:56:04,944
If someone like Jack finds outthat Willy T. Has aspirations
988
00:56:05,028 --> 00:56:07,489
to be somewhereother than his car,
989
00:56:07,572 --> 00:56:10,033
that could definitely setsome bad things in motion.
990
00:56:12,035 --> 00:56:15,288
There was some componentsthat were put in Wally's car.
991
00:56:15,413 --> 00:56:17,624
I could not understand why
992
00:56:17,707 --> 00:56:20,210
I wasn't getting off the corners.
993
00:56:20,293 --> 00:56:22,504
And before the race,there was a gear
994
00:56:22,587 --> 00:56:24,756
that was put into my car.
995
00:56:24,839 --> 00:56:27,634
A second gear, that was so tall,
996
00:56:27,759 --> 00:56:29,594
the thing stumbledcoming off the corners.
997
00:56:31,221 --> 00:56:33,640
No one knows how it happened,but it happened.
998
00:56:41,606 --> 00:56:43,691
Willy became very,very upset about it.
999
00:56:43,775 --> 00:56:44,734
All of a sudden,
1000
00:56:44,818 --> 00:56:46,111
one car will go down
the straightaway
1001
00:56:46,194 --> 00:56:48,196
and just pull away.Identical cars,
1002
00:56:48,279 --> 00:56:50,949
that one has like,20 or more horse power.
1003
00:56:52,492 --> 00:56:55,787
If he had an engine thathad 2000 miles on it--
1004
00:56:56,162 --> 00:56:59,707
This thing's gonna pitch any time,they'd put it in Willy's car.
1005
00:57:02,544 --> 00:57:05,839
Jack Roush was intentionally
not helping him.
1006
00:57:07,048 --> 00:57:09,968
It wasn't long into the racethat the engine detonated.
1007
00:57:10,176 --> 00:57:12,804
Ribbs is all over the road.
1008
00:57:13,513 --> 00:57:15,473
He's obviously in bad trouble.
1009
00:57:17,392 --> 00:57:21,938
When Jack Roush saw Don Kingcome into the picture,
1010
00:57:22,147 --> 00:57:24,190
that was it. They knew that
1011
00:57:24,274 --> 00:57:26,901
I wanted to go somewhere
after '85.
1012
00:57:27,444 --> 00:57:29,821
My relationship with Roushwas starting to fail.
1013
00:57:30,655 --> 00:57:32,198
Not everybody loved Willy.
1014
00:57:32,282 --> 00:57:35,034
And there's plentyof rednecks working on race cars
1015
00:57:35,118 --> 00:57:37,912
and they had a problem
with the color of his skin,
1016
00:57:37,996 --> 00:57:40,331
and I'm sure the way he was acting.
1017
00:57:40,415 --> 00:57:42,876
But I never rememberanybody saying, "Oh, well,
1018
00:57:42,959 --> 00:57:46,129
we're going to put the screwsto Willy this weekend."
1019
00:57:46,212 --> 00:57:49,966
All I knew is, Willy T. Ribbs
was a damn good racecar driver
1020
00:57:50,049 --> 00:57:52,010
that I had to beat.
1021
00:57:52,719 --> 00:57:55,180
When you havea driver drop off out of nowhere,
1022
00:57:55,263 --> 00:57:57,265
you're going to start to ask why.
1023
00:57:58,808 --> 00:58:00,310
Is it the equipment?
1024
00:58:00,477 --> 00:58:02,437
It's rarely the driver,
I can tell you that.
1025
00:58:04,314 --> 00:58:06,691
Willy's attitude was,you give me a car
1026
00:58:06,774 --> 00:58:08,276
and I'm gonna take it up front.
1027
00:58:20,830 --> 00:58:22,832
It was either feast or famine.
1028
00:58:23,166 --> 00:58:24,626
Either you won...
1029
00:58:26,586 --> 00:58:28,296
Or you had a mechanical issue.
1030
00:58:31,216 --> 00:58:32,842
I won eight races.
1031
00:58:34,719 --> 00:58:38,515
51 % of the laps, I led.
1032
00:58:43,019 --> 00:58:44,687
Wally won the championship.
1033
00:58:48,358 --> 00:58:50,735
And Willy finished second.
1034
00:58:50,818 --> 00:58:53,196
I hadfour mechanical failures that,
1035
00:58:53,279 --> 00:58:55,698
that shouldn't have happenedin the engine.
1036
00:58:57,742 --> 00:58:59,244
There was a motor sports journalist
1037
00:58:59,327 --> 00:59:01,663
that wasn't a Willy T. Ribbs fan.
1038
00:59:01,746 --> 00:59:03,790
And he said to Ian Brown,
1039
00:59:04,165 --> 00:59:06,751
"Did you really think they weregoing to let that nigger
1040
00:59:06,834 --> 00:59:08,461
win a championship?"
1041
00:59:09,921 --> 00:59:11,214
From his standpoint,
1042
00:59:11,297 --> 00:59:14,342
it probably felt like,
"It's me against the world."
1043
00:59:15,802 --> 00:59:19,097
I knew I was
not gonna be with Roush
1044
00:59:19,180 --> 00:59:23,476
after 1985 and I just
got to the point where
1045
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,312
I'm not going to gonose to nose with this guy.
1046
00:59:26,563 --> 00:59:28,398
I'm just gonna let it go.
1047
00:59:36,739 --> 00:59:40,868
December of 1985,I fly to Portugal.
1048
00:59:40,952 --> 00:59:42,954
It was a full-blownFormula One test.
1049
00:59:45,164 --> 00:59:47,875
The first black manto test a Formula One car.
1050
00:59:48,084 --> 00:59:49,836
It's lighter than an Indy car.
1051
00:59:49,919 --> 00:59:52,171
Power could almost be double.
1052
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:54,340
At that point in time,
1053
00:59:54,424 --> 00:59:56,551
I can't think of any othervehicle on the planet earth
1054
00:59:56,634 --> 00:59:58,803
that would have beenmore violent or demanding
1055
00:59:58,886 --> 01:00:00,888
than a Formula One car.
1056
01:00:00,972 --> 01:00:02,890
Obviously the right thing
to do is to see
1057
01:00:03,808 --> 01:00:05,101
if he's quick or not quick,
1058
01:00:05,184 --> 01:00:06,519
or if he can, whatever it is.
1059
01:00:06,769 --> 01:00:09,689
So we had a test sessionset up for him,
1060
01:00:09,772 --> 01:00:12,567
put him in the carto see how he performed.
1061
01:00:12,650 --> 01:00:14,444
I'd never been in a Formula One car.
1062
01:00:16,779 --> 01:00:19,907
Bernie's team manager, he says,
1063
01:00:19,991 --> 01:00:21,701
"I want you to run this time."
1064
01:00:24,662 --> 01:00:26,289
I kept runningand I kept getting down,
1065
01:00:26,372 --> 01:00:28,207
down, down in the time.
1066
01:00:30,126 --> 01:00:33,421
Until he says, "All right,
I'm gonna put on a set of tires
1067
01:00:33,504 --> 01:00:35,423
and I want you to go out
and put this time down."
1068
01:00:49,145 --> 01:00:51,564
I went a second under
1069
01:00:51,648 --> 01:00:54,609
the time that
they wanted me to do.
1070
01:00:55,443 --> 01:00:59,906
I came in, he says,
"Great job."
1071
01:01:00,114 --> 01:01:03,618
He says, "You can get out.This is all we wanted to see."
1072
01:01:03,701 --> 01:01:07,997
And I was to find out later,he bet Bernie that
1073
01:01:08,081 --> 01:01:12,502
I would not get under the time
that they, they had for me.
1074
01:01:12,919 --> 01:01:16,506
And we were quite surprised,and happily surprised as well.
1075
01:01:16,589 --> 01:01:18,966
And I thought this is somebody
we can get on with,
1076
01:01:19,967 --> 01:01:21,302
and make it all happen.
1077
01:01:21,469 --> 01:01:24,764
So after I came back
from Portugal,
1078
01:01:25,473 --> 01:01:26,516
I got a call.
1079
01:01:27,892 --> 01:01:29,727
"We can't put you in the team."
1080
01:01:32,230 --> 01:01:33,940
I'd have loved to have had
1081
01:01:34,023 --> 01:01:37,110
a black world championin our team.
1082
01:01:37,235 --> 01:01:39,654
It would have been, for me,
quite magic.
1083
01:01:40,988 --> 01:01:44,200
The sponsor was Olivetti,
which was Italian,
1084
01:01:44,283 --> 01:01:46,327
and they wanted Italian drivers.
1085
01:01:48,079 --> 01:01:49,580
Here we go again.
1086
01:01:52,375 --> 01:01:55,878
I got a call from Bill Gardnerwho owned DiGard racing,
1087
01:01:55,962 --> 01:01:57,338
a NASCAR team.
1088
01:01:57,422 --> 01:02:01,384
And he said, "I'd like to
have you come race for us."
1089
01:02:05,138 --> 01:02:08,725
Miller Brewing Companywas full blown sponsor of DiGard.
1090
01:02:10,893 --> 01:02:13,730
And when I got there,
Miller Brewing Company left.
1091
01:02:15,189 --> 01:02:18,192
Willy heads back to NASCAR
and you know what he finds?
1092
01:02:18,359 --> 01:02:20,903
Absolutely nothing has changed.
1093
01:02:20,987 --> 01:02:23,489
Once again,Jim Trueman from Red Roof Inn,
1094
01:02:23,781 --> 01:02:26,617
gave us some moneyto do selected races.
1095
01:02:27,410 --> 01:02:29,579
My first stock car race
1096
01:02:29,662 --> 01:02:32,081
was North Wilkesboro, North Carolina.
1097
01:02:33,082 --> 01:02:34,292
Klan Country.
1098
01:02:37,086 --> 01:02:40,548
And they announcedthe driver line up.
1099
01:02:42,550 --> 01:02:44,927
When they announced my name,I was booed.
1100
01:02:47,472 --> 01:02:49,599
Blood curling boos.
1101
01:02:51,684 --> 01:02:54,687
Dale Earnhardt looked likehe was embarrassed
1102
01:02:54,771 --> 01:02:56,564
that they were booing.
1103
01:02:56,647 --> 01:02:58,274
I can't imagine
there was many people
1104
01:02:58,357 --> 01:03:00,693
that were
going to be pulling for Willy T.
1105
01:03:00,777 --> 01:03:03,946
They were gonna be pullingfor him to wind up in the wall.
1106
01:03:04,030 --> 01:03:05,490
The old adage is...
1107
01:03:05,573 --> 01:03:07,283
"The Civil War is dead,
1108
01:03:07,366 --> 01:03:09,160
but still smoldering."
1109
01:03:11,412 --> 01:03:13,664
Welcome to NASCAR.
1110
01:03:13,748 --> 01:03:15,291
Willy T. Ribbshas won another--
1111
01:03:18,503 --> 01:03:22,423
Before the race, I was told
Jim Trueman was sick.
1112
01:03:22,590 --> 01:03:24,967
And he was fighting and he had cancer.
1113
01:03:26,385 --> 01:03:29,180
Bobby Ray Hallwon the Indy 500.
1114
01:03:29,263 --> 01:03:32,725
Jim Trueman was very weak,he could barely stand up.
1115
01:03:32,809 --> 01:03:34,644
But he was there at the race.
1116
01:03:34,727 --> 01:03:36,938
It was a tough race.
1117
01:03:37,021 --> 01:03:39,607
And all I said when we were out
was win this one for me.
1118
01:03:39,690 --> 01:03:40,775
And he did it.
1119
01:03:42,276 --> 01:03:44,570
Not long afterward, he passed away.
1120
01:03:47,990 --> 01:03:50,159
That was, uh, hard,
1121
01:03:50,243 --> 01:03:54,288
'cause he was the guy
that got me...
1122
01:03:55,706 --> 01:03:57,458
out of the dark.
1123
01:03:59,669 --> 01:04:01,879
He got me out of the dark.
1124
01:04:11,055 --> 01:04:14,851
After the first race,we did two more races.
1125
01:04:16,477 --> 01:04:19,522
The final dagger
was Watkins Glen.
1126
01:04:19,897 --> 01:04:21,274
It was a road course,
1127
01:04:21,357 --> 01:04:23,943
and that was a racethat I could win.
1128
01:04:25,111 --> 01:04:27,864
The engines that we hadfrom Robert Yates,
1129
01:04:27,947 --> 01:04:32,118
every one of themblew in three to four laps.
1130
01:04:33,202 --> 01:04:35,705
This was just testing only.
1131
01:04:36,914 --> 01:04:40,084
He ran into probably
a lot more opposition
1132
01:04:40,167 --> 01:04:42,587
as people would rathernot have him around.
1133
01:04:42,670 --> 01:04:45,047
They knew in Watkins Glen,
1134
01:04:45,131 --> 01:04:47,633
Willy T. Ribbs
was going to be a threat
1135
01:04:47,717 --> 01:04:49,802
and Willy T. Ribbs would probably win.
1136
01:04:50,678 --> 01:04:52,555
NASCAR knew it.
1137
01:04:52,638 --> 01:04:55,516
Bill Gardner knew thatthis was my best opportunity
1138
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:57,685
to win a racewhich would help us
1139
01:04:57,768 --> 01:04:59,979
get a major sponsor.
1140
01:05:00,271 --> 01:05:03,691
Never in my lifehave I ever heard a team
1141
01:05:03,774 --> 01:05:05,651
blowing up that many engines.
1142
01:05:05,735 --> 01:05:08,988
And having that big a failurewithout the engine builder
1143
01:05:09,071 --> 01:05:12,909
flying to the track and findingout what's going on.
1144
01:05:13,075 --> 01:05:14,952
Especially after the second engine.
1145
01:05:15,703 --> 01:05:18,122
Why didn't he come up there?
1146
01:05:22,209 --> 01:05:23,711
Right after that,
1147
01:05:23,794 --> 01:05:26,005
the engine builder, Robert Yates
became a team owner.
1148
01:05:26,464 --> 01:05:28,716
I wonder what kind of dealwas made.
1149
01:05:28,841 --> 01:05:32,678
Bill Gardner got put outof business in two days.
1150
01:05:32,762 --> 01:05:34,513
Two days, he was out of business.
1151
01:05:35,306 --> 01:05:37,433
We had no more engines left.
1152
01:05:37,642 --> 01:05:41,354
And that was the endof my NASCAR career.
1153
01:05:47,401 --> 01:05:50,071
We are underwayin the Watkins Glen 300,
1154
01:05:50,154 --> 01:05:53,157
and look at Willy T. Ribbs.Willy T. Will be on the inside,
1155
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:56,911
a good car length advantageover Denis Aase in turn one.
1156
01:05:57,119 --> 01:05:59,872
Chuck Looper, whoI was very close to at Roush
1157
01:05:59,956 --> 01:06:02,583
was working for
a private tier owner,
1158
01:06:02,667 --> 01:06:04,043
who had a car in IMSA.
1159
01:06:04,126 --> 01:06:06,212
Then they hadan awesome engine builder.
1160
01:06:06,420 --> 01:06:07,797
Ryan Falconer.
1161
01:06:08,923 --> 01:06:10,925
And Roush was in IMSA.
1162
01:06:11,926 --> 01:06:13,678
And Falconer says,
1163
01:06:13,761 --> 01:06:16,263
"I wanna kick the shitout of Roush.
1164
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:19,100
Roush can't outbuild me."
1165
01:06:19,350 --> 01:06:20,476
I said,
1166
01:06:20,893 --> 01:06:22,603
"You're going to get your wish."
1167
01:06:22,979 --> 01:06:23,980
Well, look at this.
1168
01:06:24,063 --> 01:06:26,524
Aase and Willy T. Are kindapulling away right now.
1169
01:06:27,274 --> 01:06:29,402
In IMSA,an endurance race.
1170
01:06:29,485 --> 01:06:30,861
Something where you tend
to have co-drivers
1171
01:06:30,945 --> 01:06:32,154
in most instances,
1172
01:06:32,238 --> 01:06:34,323
it's gonna be two hours, four, six.
1173
01:06:34,991 --> 01:06:37,201
That's a new chapter for Willy.
1174
01:06:37,284 --> 01:06:39,286
The checkered flagfor Denis Aase.
1175
01:06:39,370 --> 01:06:41,747
He's won the Watkins Glen 300,
1176
01:06:41,831 --> 01:06:43,290
Ribbs comes in second
1177
01:06:43,374 --> 01:06:46,335
and down in the pits,you can bet there's a big smile
1178
01:06:46,419 --> 01:06:48,087
on Dan Gurney's face.
1179
01:06:48,295 --> 01:06:50,715
Dan Gurney's Toyotasended up beating me.
1180
01:06:50,798 --> 01:06:52,258
I finished second.
1181
01:06:52,425 --> 01:06:55,636
Dan Gurney, he's spraying
champagne all over me
1182
01:06:55,803 --> 01:06:57,763
and I grabbed him by the arm
1183
01:06:57,930 --> 01:06:59,306
as we were walking off the podium
1184
01:06:59,390 --> 01:07:02,476
and I said,"I wanna race for you in '87."
1185
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:06,313
The beginning of 1987,my childhood hero,
1186
01:07:06,439 --> 01:07:07,523
I was his driver.
1187
01:07:09,483 --> 01:07:10,985
What a grand performance.
1188
01:07:11,068 --> 01:07:13,446
Willy T. Ribbs is givingwhat Dan Gurney
1189
01:07:13,529 --> 01:07:15,489
has learned abouthow to put a car together.
1190
01:07:17,324 --> 01:07:20,036
In auto racing,
there's always rivals.
1191
01:07:20,327 --> 01:07:22,747
Roush was in IMSA,
1192
01:07:22,830 --> 01:07:25,541
and he was looking for a guy
1193
01:07:25,624 --> 01:07:28,002
that was going to competeagainst Willy T. Ribbs.
1194
01:07:28,544 --> 01:07:31,255
I raced a full seasonwith Roush Racing.
1195
01:07:31,338 --> 01:07:33,507
Here is Bruce Jennerin the Ford Mustang.
1196
01:07:33,591 --> 01:07:35,217
All these Toyota guys
and the Chevy guys
1197
01:07:35,301 --> 01:07:37,136
all were Ford drivers.
1198
01:07:37,636 --> 01:07:39,013
And I've heard of this kid, Scott Pruett.
1199
01:07:39,096 --> 01:07:41,223
I'm looking at this kid
as a winner.
1200
01:07:41,307 --> 01:07:44,810
So I said to him, "I would love
to have you drive with me."
1201
01:07:44,894 --> 01:07:47,646
I just started this relationship
with Ford Motor Company.
1202
01:07:47,730 --> 01:07:49,315
And they really liked him.
1203
01:07:49,398 --> 01:07:52,485
Scott Pruett wasRoush's new fair-haired boy.
1204
01:07:52,943 --> 01:07:53,986
He had orders.
1205
01:07:54,070 --> 01:07:55,321
Beat Willy T.
1206
01:07:55,696 --> 01:07:57,239
Drag race to the start
1207
01:07:57,323 --> 01:07:59,992
won by Willy T. Ribbsin the '99 car.
1208
01:08:00,076 --> 01:08:01,535
I thought Pruett withthat big Mustang
1209
01:08:01,619 --> 01:08:04,080
would have the horse powerto get to turn one in first.
1210
01:08:04,163 --> 01:08:05,831
Roush said to his pilot,
1211
01:08:05,998 --> 01:08:08,459
"Make sure Ribbs doesn't win
that race up in Portland."
1212
01:08:09,210 --> 01:08:11,378
Jack Roush says,"No bones about it,
1213
01:08:11,462 --> 01:08:13,255
Scott is the best driverI've ever had."
1214
01:08:13,339 --> 01:08:15,257
Willy takes thatas a personal insult.
1215
01:08:15,341 --> 01:08:17,885
Scott is here to putthe pressure on the Toyota.
1216
01:08:17,968 --> 01:08:20,888
We are willing to see his carnot finish if we have to
1217
01:08:20,971 --> 01:08:23,432
in order to keep him underthe maximum amount of pressure.
1218
01:08:23,682 --> 01:08:25,851
Roush says, in the last fuel stop,
1219
01:08:25,935 --> 01:08:29,063
"Go after Willy, you know,
he was in the lead."
1220
01:08:29,146 --> 01:08:31,649
Scott Pruett,who is one or two laps down
1221
01:08:31,732 --> 01:08:33,442
right behind Willy T. Ribbs.
1222
01:08:34,401 --> 01:08:35,444
Pruett was behind me.
1223
01:08:36,487 --> 01:08:38,906
Ran into the back of me,
spun me out.
1224
01:08:38,989 --> 01:08:40,908
Oh, here'sa little action in turn nine.
1225
01:08:40,991 --> 01:08:43,536
It's Willy T. Ribbs,and Scott Pruett.
1226
01:08:43,619 --> 01:08:45,663
Looks like they might havegotten together there.
1227
01:08:45,746 --> 01:08:49,458
Gave me a flat tire.
Cost me winning the race.
1228
01:08:49,542 --> 01:08:51,794
That spinwas very, very costly,
1229
01:08:51,877 --> 01:08:53,295
especially for Willy T. Ribbs.
1230
01:08:53,379 --> 01:08:55,172
The guy's raced youclean the whole race
1231
01:08:55,256 --> 01:08:57,299
and you're taking him outfor the victory.
1232
01:08:57,967 --> 01:08:59,009
That's bullshit.
1233
01:08:59,802 --> 01:09:01,137
I pulled in,
1234
01:09:01,262 --> 01:09:02,429
Dan's talking to me, he says,
1235
01:09:02,513 --> 01:09:04,014
"Hey, don't go down,don't say anything,
1236
01:09:04,098 --> 01:09:06,016
don't run down there."Which I didn't.
1237
01:09:06,392 --> 01:09:08,978
As I'm walking down
the parking lot pathway,
1238
01:09:09,061 --> 01:09:13,107
here comes Bruce Jennerand Scott Pruett.
1239
01:09:13,190 --> 01:09:15,609
And then all of a sudden, I look up.
1240
01:09:15,693 --> 01:09:17,403
And what's on our windshield
1241
01:09:17,486 --> 01:09:19,822
and on the front of the car,
so we can't move forward?
1242
01:09:21,157 --> 01:09:22,783
Willy T. Ribbs.
1243
01:09:23,951 --> 01:09:26,620
I stood right in front of their car.
1244
01:09:26,704 --> 01:09:30,040
And I grabbed Pruett and I nailed him.
1245
01:09:30,124 --> 01:09:33,419
Bam, bam on Pruett.
1246
01:09:33,502 --> 01:09:35,296
He jumps out of the window.
1247
01:09:35,379 --> 01:09:36,922
And I look at him
in the rearview mirror,
1248
01:09:37,006 --> 01:09:39,633
and there he is, standing there,
just like ready to go.
1249
01:09:39,758 --> 01:09:44,805
Jenner gets out of the car
and comes at me.
1250
01:09:45,764 --> 01:09:47,349
I told Jenner, I said, "Look,
1251
01:09:47,641 --> 01:09:49,435
you threw the spear
in the Olympics."
1252
01:09:49,685 --> 01:09:51,604
I said, "I'll takethe same spear
1253
01:09:51,687 --> 01:09:53,939
and put it upyour ass sideways."
1254
01:09:55,774 --> 01:09:57,109
I said, "Just get back
in the car."
1255
01:09:57,193 --> 01:09:59,195
And, uh, me, I'm like,
I can't believe this.
1256
01:09:59,361 --> 01:10:00,654
I've never been in a fight
in my life.
1257
01:10:00,738 --> 01:10:03,157
God gave me fast feet
so I can get out of trouble.
1258
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:05,534
I was like, zoom,
I was gone, you know.
1259
01:10:05,784 --> 01:10:09,205
There was a girl that
was sitting in the center.
1260
01:10:09,288 --> 01:10:11,624
Pruett uses her as a shield.
1261
01:10:11,790 --> 01:10:14,752
They went to the press room
and said,
1262
01:10:15,002 --> 01:10:16,462
I hit the girl.
1263
01:10:17,713 --> 01:10:19,465
I hit Pruett.
1264
01:10:19,548 --> 01:10:21,967
But they said,
"Oh, you hit her
1265
01:10:22,051 --> 01:10:23,677
as you were trying to hit Pruett."
1266
01:10:23,886 --> 01:10:27,223
And since he was still
on the racetrack grounds,
1267
01:10:28,515 --> 01:10:30,476
they suspended Willy.
1268
01:10:30,559 --> 01:10:33,979
I was suspendedwithout any due process.
1269
01:10:35,397 --> 01:10:39,026
Never had a driver
been suspended from IMSA.
1270
01:10:40,402 --> 01:10:44,448
The IMSA officials,
Jack Roush, Dan Gurney,
1271
01:10:44,531 --> 01:10:45,658
we all got in one room
1272
01:10:45,741 --> 01:10:50,371
and Gurney stuck his fingerinto Roush's face and said,
1273
01:10:50,454 --> 01:10:52,706
"Let Ribbs and Pruett
handle it.
1274
01:10:52,790 --> 01:10:54,291
And stay out of it."
1275
01:10:54,375 --> 01:10:56,877
That was the endof the on-track battles.
1276
01:10:58,379 --> 01:11:00,506
I didn't want to beat Scott Pruett.
1277
01:11:00,756 --> 01:11:03,175
I wanted to beat Jack Roush.
1278
01:11:03,259 --> 01:11:05,261
He cost me a championship.
1279
01:11:05,636 --> 01:11:07,346
And I hadn't forgotten.
1280
01:11:11,308 --> 01:11:13,060
Dan Gurney's objective
1281
01:11:13,143 --> 01:11:15,229
was to winthe Manufacturers Championship.
1282
01:11:15,312 --> 01:11:17,564
Toyota wantedthat Manufacturers Championship
1283
01:11:17,856 --> 01:11:19,566
and they wanted to beat Ford.
1284
01:11:19,650 --> 01:11:21,777
And I wanted to beat Roush.
1285
01:11:21,860 --> 01:11:24,113
We've been through 16 races.
1286
01:11:24,488 --> 01:11:25,948
And we're two points apart.
1287
01:11:26,365 --> 01:11:27,908
So really, the whole season,
1288
01:11:27,992 --> 01:11:29,493
as far as the manufacturers
point championship
1289
01:11:29,576 --> 01:11:31,996
has boiled down to one race,
here in Del Mar.
1290
01:11:33,664 --> 01:11:35,499
This is for all the marbles.
1291
01:11:35,833 --> 01:11:37,584
This couldn't be any bigger
1292
01:11:37,668 --> 01:11:41,297
if it was
a Larry Holmes-Mike Tyson fight.
1293
01:11:41,797 --> 01:11:43,590
450 horsepower Willy T. Ribbs.
1294
01:11:43,674 --> 01:11:46,135
600 horsepower Scott Pruett.The green flag waves.
1295
01:11:46,218 --> 01:11:47,886
Give it to Pruett as theyhead down to the corner.
1296
01:11:47,970 --> 01:11:50,597
Now you're back with the leader,Scott Pruett, in the number 11 car.
1297
01:11:50,681 --> 01:11:52,850
Now these were two peoplethat were equally matched.
1298
01:11:52,975 --> 01:11:56,979
Willy T. Ribbs' caras he tries to close up on Scott Pruett.
1299
01:11:57,771 --> 01:12:00,316
These are guys who have shaved
so much body work
1300
01:12:00,399 --> 01:12:03,235
off of each other.
By fighting and pounding.
1301
01:12:03,485 --> 01:12:05,195
Great moveby Willy. And he did it.
1302
01:12:05,279 --> 01:12:08,282
Whoa, Willy has muscled by.
1303
01:12:08,365 --> 01:12:11,035
Scott Pruett, he is going to holdhis ground and he makes it work.
1304
01:12:11,118 --> 01:12:12,828
Great piece of driving.
1305
01:12:12,911 --> 01:12:15,789
Just over two secondsseparate Pruett from Ribbs.
1306
01:12:15,873 --> 01:12:18,083
Laps quickly running down.
1307
01:12:18,167 --> 01:12:19,585
Here we go,down the front straight.
1308
01:12:19,668 --> 01:12:21,670
This is the best shothe's had right now.
1309
01:12:23,130 --> 01:12:24,840
The checkered flag has come out
1310
01:12:24,965 --> 01:12:27,092
just as Scott Pruettmade his thrust.
1311
01:12:27,176 --> 01:12:29,553
But Willy T. Holds him offtill the line.
1312
01:12:29,636 --> 01:12:32,348
Tremendous! I think thathas to be the best GTO race
1313
01:12:32,431 --> 01:12:34,433
we've seen this year.
1314
01:12:34,641 --> 01:12:36,852
Nobody celebrates victory like
1315
01:12:36,935 --> 01:12:39,480
Mr. Excitement Willy T. Ribbs.
1316
01:12:39,563 --> 01:12:41,148
Willy did a fantastic job.
1317
01:12:41,231 --> 01:12:42,649
He had the desire.
1318
01:12:42,733 --> 01:12:44,943
He wanted to win
and become a champion.
1319
01:12:47,488 --> 01:12:49,740
We wonthe Manufacturers Championship.
1320
01:12:49,823 --> 01:12:52,201
I was IMSA driver of the year.
1321
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:56,372
Imagine winningthe Manufacturers Championship for Toyota.
1322
01:12:56,455 --> 01:12:59,583
Winning it for Dan.Winning for your idol.
1323
01:12:59,666 --> 01:13:02,461
This was fairy tale stuffat this point of Willy's career.
1324
01:13:04,046 --> 01:13:06,548
I was starting to feel,
1325
01:13:06,632 --> 01:13:08,884
I've done everythingI need to do.
1326
01:13:09,051 --> 01:13:12,388
I need to start workingon my ultimate goal.
1327
01:13:12,638 --> 01:13:14,014
IndyCar.
1328
01:13:14,098 --> 01:13:16,517
Very few drivers had rides
1329
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:19,269
'cause they were just good
and they got paid.
1330
01:13:19,353 --> 01:13:23,065
You had to find money.You had to find the sponsors.
1331
01:13:24,525 --> 01:13:26,068
You gotta have a rich daddy.
1332
01:13:26,151 --> 01:13:27,820
Or you gotta be a good salesman.
1333
01:13:29,029 --> 01:13:30,614
You need a patron,
1334
01:13:30,781 --> 01:13:32,658
someone who's willingto pay the bills.
1335
01:13:35,244 --> 01:13:38,580
Because it's so frickin' expensive.
1336
01:13:39,373 --> 01:13:41,417
I get a phone call from my dad.
1337
01:13:41,625 --> 01:13:44,545
He said,
"Bill Cosby called for you."
1338
01:13:44,711 --> 01:13:47,589
I saw Willy drive
1339
01:13:47,673 --> 01:13:50,092
and I think that Willy
1340
01:13:50,175 --> 01:13:53,178
should be playing
with the big fellas.
1341
01:13:53,262 --> 01:13:54,805
He's the mostfamous man in America.
1342
01:13:54,972 --> 01:13:57,015
America's father at that time.
1343
01:13:58,016 --> 01:13:59,351
The Cosby Show had been
1344
01:13:59,435 --> 01:14:01,979
the number one show for years.
1345
01:14:06,483 --> 01:14:09,695
Remember this was over 20 yearsbefore anyone learned
1346
01:14:09,778 --> 01:14:13,073
of the crimesCosby kept all to himself.
1347
01:14:24,793 --> 01:14:26,545
Two days later,I was in Vegas.
1348
01:14:27,546 --> 01:14:29,089
He answered the door,
1349
01:14:29,756 --> 01:14:31,425
and he lit a cigar,
1350
01:14:31,508 --> 01:14:33,719
and he sat down on the couch.
1351
01:14:33,927 --> 01:14:36,763
"What do you want to do?"
I said, "I wanna go to Indy
1352
01:14:36,847 --> 01:14:38,974
and I want to race
in the IndyCar championship."
1353
01:14:39,433 --> 01:14:43,020
He said to me, "How much is itgonna cost me upfront?"
1354
01:14:43,103 --> 01:14:44,813
I said, "Half a million dollars."
1355
01:14:46,440 --> 01:14:49,109
Cosby said,"I'll help seed this project
1356
01:14:49,193 --> 01:14:50,986
to get it started, and I believe
1357
01:14:51,069 --> 01:14:54,406
through my name, my stardom,I can attract sponsors
1358
01:14:54,490 --> 01:14:56,158
who will then really startto fill in
1359
01:14:56,241 --> 01:14:57,618
the big sponsorship gaps."
1360
01:14:57,868 --> 01:15:00,120
He is a fine driver
and he should be given
1361
01:15:00,204 --> 01:15:01,914
an opportunity
and he should have one
1362
01:15:01,997 --> 01:15:06,251
and it's very, very strange that
he doesn't have that.
1363
01:15:06,877 --> 01:15:08,420
Yet.
1364
01:15:08,504 --> 01:15:11,798
Cosby wasthe spokesperson for Coca-Cola.
1365
01:15:11,882 --> 01:15:13,091
Coke is it!
1366
01:15:13,175 --> 01:15:15,552
Cosby goesdown there personally,
1367
01:15:15,636 --> 01:15:17,513
met with him, met with him,
1368
01:15:17,596 --> 01:15:21,600
they aren't interested
in racing, blah, blah, blah.
1369
01:15:21,683 --> 01:15:23,310
In reality, they're not interested
1370
01:15:23,393 --> 01:15:25,771
in sponsoring Willy T. In racing.
1371
01:15:25,854 --> 01:15:28,315
100 milesin the Coca Cola 600.
1372
01:15:29,066 --> 01:15:31,235
He had Coca-Cola,
he had Jell-O.
1373
01:15:31,527 --> 01:15:34,279
He had Kodak.It took a few years.
1374
01:15:34,821 --> 01:15:39,201
We got no support, nothing.
1375
01:15:39,284 --> 01:15:41,537
Willy alwaysworked hard at his career.
1376
01:15:41,620 --> 01:15:43,163
He worked hard
to hustle his money.
1377
01:15:43,247 --> 01:15:46,708
He worked hard to meet people
and try to build his packages.
1378
01:15:47,084 --> 01:15:48,752
To bring people in.
1379
01:15:49,586 --> 01:15:50,879
Corporate America
1380
01:15:50,963 --> 01:15:53,215
turned their back.
1381
01:15:56,301 --> 01:15:59,429
There was a guy
by the name of Derrick Walker.
1382
01:15:59,513 --> 01:16:02,099
He had ran a factory PorscheIndyCar team.
1383
01:16:02,766 --> 01:16:04,268
That deal was over.
1384
01:16:04,768 --> 01:16:06,770
Color blind,someone who is
1385
01:16:06,853 --> 01:16:08,605
looking for the best possible driver
1386
01:16:08,689 --> 01:16:10,399
he can work with.
1387
01:16:10,482 --> 01:16:13,360
I must have been crazy
to think that
1388
01:16:13,443 --> 01:16:14,903
I could just go
and start a race team.
1389
01:16:14,987 --> 01:16:16,363
But that's what I did.
1390
01:16:16,446 --> 01:16:18,615
Somebody told me Willy T. Ribbshas got some money
1391
01:16:18,699 --> 01:16:20,617
and he wants to goto the Indy 500.
1392
01:16:20,701 --> 01:16:23,662
I bumped into himand mentioned, "Shall we talk?"
1393
01:16:23,912 --> 01:16:27,082
So I called Bill Cosby
and I said,
1394
01:16:27,165 --> 01:16:29,001
"Derrick Walker is available.
1395
01:16:29,126 --> 01:16:32,087
He knows how to put
a winning team together."
1396
01:16:32,170 --> 01:16:33,463
I said, "Let's get him."
1397
01:16:33,714 --> 01:16:35,549
Bingo! We had a program.
1398
01:16:35,632 --> 01:16:38,260
We didn't have a lot of money
but we had a start.
1399
01:16:38,427 --> 01:16:40,512
And that's all it took.
1400
01:16:40,721 --> 01:16:43,515
Derrick Walker was assembling
a team right away
1401
01:16:43,682 --> 01:16:46,101
for the 1991 Indy 500.
1402
01:16:48,437 --> 01:16:49,980
If you're looking
to run an Indy car,
1403
01:16:50,063 --> 01:16:51,815
you're looking for millions.
1404
01:16:52,107 --> 01:16:56,153
And with Cosby being willing
to contribute $350,000,
1405
01:16:56,653 --> 01:16:59,323
you would not want to go
any lower than that.
1406
01:16:59,406 --> 01:17:01,033
It's no secret thatto be competitive
1407
01:17:01,116 --> 01:17:02,367
in today's IndyCar racing
1408
01:17:02,618 --> 01:17:04,536
requires a tremendous amount of money.
1409
01:17:04,620 --> 01:17:05,871
Just consider, today's going rate
1410
01:17:05,954 --> 01:17:09,082
for a 1991 chassis is $305,000.
1411
01:17:09,207 --> 01:17:11,585
Engines are close to $100,000 each.
1412
01:17:11,710 --> 01:17:13,837
Tires cost about $900 a set.
1413
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:16,632
And at Indianapolis,you'll need 20 sets.
1414
01:17:16,882 --> 01:17:19,384
When you were
at Walker Racing in 1991,
1415
01:17:19,468 --> 01:17:21,011
a brand new race team,
1416
01:17:21,136 --> 01:17:24,765
you had hand-me-down equipment
from other teams.
1417
01:17:24,931 --> 01:17:27,976
Engines that weren't necessarily
brand new.
1418
01:17:28,143 --> 01:17:30,020
You were at a disadvantagefrom the moment
1419
01:17:30,103 --> 01:17:32,773
you rolled that caron the racetrack.
1420
01:17:32,856 --> 01:17:35,150
If you were with a smaller team
like Walker Racing,
1421
01:17:35,484 --> 01:17:37,527
if you could buyhalf of a hot dog for lunch,
1422
01:17:37,611 --> 01:17:38,779
and save money, you would.
1423
01:17:38,862 --> 01:17:41,865
We went there with just enough
money to get there basically,
1424
01:17:41,948 --> 01:17:45,035
and as you know, the whole month
is high pressure, high money
1425
01:17:45,118 --> 01:17:47,704
and a lot of workand a lot of pieces you need.
1426
01:17:47,788 --> 01:17:48,997
The disparity in budgets
1427
01:17:49,081 --> 01:17:51,124
between the big and small teamsis rather huge.
1428
01:17:51,416 --> 01:17:53,669
I had less of a budget
1429
01:17:53,752 --> 01:17:58,090
to go to Indy in 1991
than I did in 1985.
1430
01:17:58,173 --> 01:18:00,676
I had Miller Brewing Companyin 1985.
1431
01:18:02,386 --> 01:18:05,138
I had just Bill Cosby's money
1432
01:18:05,889 --> 01:18:07,265
for that one race.
1433
01:18:07,974 --> 01:18:10,435
With the $350,000,
1434
01:18:10,644 --> 01:18:13,563
Derrick Walker found
a used 1990 Lola.
1435
01:18:13,647 --> 01:18:15,065
It was in sad shape.
1436
01:18:15,232 --> 01:18:17,526
We had to rebuildthe car as well as,
1437
01:18:17,609 --> 01:18:20,195
you know, put the engine inand all that stuff.
1438
01:18:20,278 --> 01:18:23,073
So that was our only means,
we couldn't afford anything else.
1439
01:18:23,156 --> 01:18:25,784
It was, "That's the only choice
we've got."
1440
01:18:25,909 --> 01:18:29,538
Derrick Walker
and his marketing guy
1441
01:18:29,621 --> 01:18:32,749
wanted to change the color.
They wanted to have it bright
1442
01:18:32,833 --> 01:18:37,129
and chartreuse and you could
see it 20 miles away.
1443
01:18:38,296 --> 01:18:40,465
Why? I don't know.
1444
01:18:40,632 --> 01:18:42,592
The color was,
1445
01:18:42,676 --> 01:18:46,096
on a bright day, you needed
glasses to look at it.
1446
01:18:46,304 --> 01:18:49,725
Race cars are supposedto be Ferrari red.
1447
01:18:49,808 --> 01:18:52,602
Supposed to have some sort ofmacho-racy look.
1448
01:18:52,686 --> 01:18:55,605
This thing didn't look macho
at all.
1449
01:18:56,189 --> 01:18:57,816
He's got this carthat he thinks is ugly
1450
01:18:57,899 --> 01:18:59,609
but everyone in the grandstandsthinks it's beautiful
1451
01:18:59,693 --> 01:19:01,486
because you can see
this yellow and red car
1452
01:19:01,653 --> 01:19:03,572
from all over the place.
1453
01:19:03,655 --> 01:19:06,575
But you knew it wasn't the bestequipment in the world.
1454
01:19:08,285 --> 01:19:10,537
At Indy, just like
any other form of racing,
1455
01:19:10,620 --> 01:19:12,831
you've got to have
the right car.
1456
01:19:12,914 --> 01:19:14,624
And if you don't have
the right sponsorship
1457
01:19:14,708 --> 01:19:17,002
and the right car,
you just can't shine.
1458
01:19:19,421 --> 01:19:20,964
So if you're goingin there with half the money
1459
01:19:21,214 --> 01:19:23,842
that some of these
other teams have,
1460
01:19:23,925 --> 01:19:25,343
you can just
pretty much figure that
1461
01:19:25,427 --> 01:19:27,387
you're not going to be
as fast as them.
1462
01:19:27,471 --> 01:19:29,097
Unless you have the money,
1463
01:19:30,223 --> 01:19:33,518
and the resources and the people
1464
01:19:33,685 --> 01:19:36,396
as good as the guys
you're trying to beat,
1465
01:19:36,480 --> 01:19:37,689
you're not gonna do it.
1466
01:19:38,690 --> 01:19:40,317
I had a group though.
1467
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:43,570
I knew we were,
we were going to be strong.
1468
01:19:43,653 --> 01:19:46,364
Tim Wardrop was our engineer.
1469
01:19:46,448 --> 01:19:48,492
The communicationdifference between
1470
01:19:48,575 --> 01:19:52,913
Leffler and Wardrop
was night and day.
1471
01:19:53,079 --> 01:19:57,209
He had won Indy three timesas an engineer.
1472
01:19:57,375 --> 01:19:59,836
His intelligence was unreal
1473
01:19:59,920 --> 01:20:02,839
when it came to setting up
an Indy car.
1474
01:20:02,923 --> 01:20:04,382
Before a driver climbs
into the car,
1475
01:20:04,466 --> 01:20:06,301
straps in and drives off,
1476
01:20:06,384 --> 01:20:07,886
you have an engineer.
1477
01:20:07,969 --> 01:20:10,096
Tim Wardrop is goingto make sure the car
1478
01:20:10,180 --> 01:20:13,058
has the best suspensionsettings possible,
1479
01:20:13,225 --> 01:20:15,435
make sure that the carhas enough air
1480
01:20:15,519 --> 01:20:17,270
pushing the car to the ground.
1481
01:20:17,395 --> 01:20:20,190
Those wings bothin front and back.
1482
01:20:20,273 --> 01:20:22,651
They're likeinverted airplane wings.
1483
01:20:22,734 --> 01:20:24,069
And when that wind hits it,
1484
01:20:24,152 --> 01:20:26,196
it sucks the car to the ground.
1485
01:20:26,404 --> 01:20:30,075
Those are all decisions madeby the race engineer.
1486
01:20:30,158 --> 01:20:32,661
He was getting my thoughts
1487
01:20:32,744 --> 01:20:35,288
on how I like a car.
1488
01:20:37,457 --> 01:20:38,875
And then at the same time,
1489
01:20:38,959 --> 01:20:41,795
he was telling mewhat I would feel.
1490
01:20:41,878 --> 01:20:45,257
This is what you wanna
look for in the car.
1491
01:20:45,423 --> 01:20:47,300
That was invaluable.
1492
01:20:47,384 --> 01:20:50,971
Willy saw Tim Wardropas right up his alley.
1493
01:20:51,054 --> 01:20:53,682
He was, for usas a startup team,
1494
01:20:53,849 --> 01:20:55,058
a godsend because
1495
01:20:55,433 --> 01:20:58,228
we didn't have an army
of engineers, we had one guy.
1496
01:20:58,311 --> 01:20:59,688
He clicked with Willy.
1497
01:20:59,938 --> 01:21:01,189
Meet Willy Ribbs.
1498
01:21:01,273 --> 01:21:03,358
Willy hopes to bethe first black driver
1499
01:21:03,441 --> 01:21:04,943
in the history of a race.
1500
01:21:05,068 --> 01:21:06,987
When we found out
Willy T. Was coming back
1501
01:21:07,070 --> 01:21:08,446
to try to qualify,
1502
01:21:08,530 --> 01:21:11,408
everybody was excited again.
The buzz was back.
1503
01:21:11,575 --> 01:21:12,784
Our guy was back.
1504
01:21:12,868 --> 01:21:15,370
There was a lot of hype
around Derrick Walker,
1505
01:21:15,453 --> 01:21:18,456
Walker Racing coming here
and coming with Willy Ribbs.
1506
01:21:18,540 --> 01:21:21,501
Bill Cosby's involved.There's all this craziness.
1507
01:21:21,585 --> 01:21:23,670
How much has Cos
had as far as input?
1508
01:21:23,753 --> 01:21:26,047
He hasn't been here physically,
but do you talk to him?
1509
01:21:26,172 --> 01:21:27,716
Well, we've been getting Jell-O
1510
01:21:27,799 --> 01:21:29,801
sent to us every day.
1511
01:21:29,885 --> 01:21:32,178
Willy had been waitingfor that good ride
1512
01:21:32,262 --> 01:21:34,180
that we all strive to get.
1513
01:21:34,264 --> 01:21:36,391
It wasn't coming around for him.
1514
01:21:36,892 --> 01:21:38,560
He loved the sport enough
1515
01:21:38,643 --> 01:21:41,479
that he goes, "Look, I'm goingto take a gamble here
1516
01:21:41,563 --> 01:21:45,442
and go with a car that I don'tthink is quite up to par."
1517
01:21:47,027 --> 01:21:49,070
The first day of time trials.
1518
01:21:49,154 --> 01:21:51,239
The run for the poleand in many ways,
1519
01:21:51,323 --> 01:21:54,034
the second most important dayof the racing year.
1520
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:55,744
So, qualifying for Indianapolis
1521
01:21:55,827 --> 01:21:57,162
is called a month of May.
1522
01:21:57,245 --> 01:21:59,039
While you're at Indy
for a month,
1523
01:21:59,164 --> 01:22:01,833
you run every day.
1524
01:22:01,917 --> 01:22:03,585
And every day,
1525
01:22:03,668 --> 01:22:05,712
you're showing upat the racetrack
1526
01:22:05,795 --> 01:22:07,672
and you're trying to find speed.
1527
01:22:11,051 --> 01:22:13,094
So they practice and see
how fast they can go
1528
01:22:13,261 --> 01:22:15,138
and then they qualify.
There's four days.
1529
01:22:15,221 --> 01:22:17,474
You qualify the first day,that's up front.
1530
01:22:17,682 --> 01:22:19,392
Second day,it's going to be behind
1531
01:22:19,476 --> 01:22:21,186
the first day qualifiers.
1532
01:22:21,269 --> 01:22:24,940
Third day behind second dayand the fourth day, so on.
1533
01:22:25,023 --> 01:22:27,025
The third weekendof the month
1534
01:22:27,108 --> 01:22:29,861
finishes out the field
and the top 33 cars make it
1535
01:22:29,945 --> 01:22:31,947
and everybody else goes home.
1536
01:22:33,448 --> 01:22:34,282
Most races,
1537
01:22:34,366 --> 01:22:36,368
they take your fastest lap
1538
01:22:36,576 --> 01:22:38,954
and they take
your qualifying speed.
1539
01:22:39,037 --> 01:22:41,790
At Indy, four laps.
1540
01:22:42,457 --> 01:22:43,750
You have to run.
1541
01:22:44,459 --> 01:22:45,752
Or ten miles
1542
01:22:46,878 --> 01:22:49,047
And in that ten miles,
1543
01:22:49,422 --> 01:22:51,841
they take your average speed
1544
01:22:51,925 --> 01:22:55,011
against all the other drivers'
average speed
1545
01:22:55,095 --> 01:22:56,429
and that's how you qualify.
1546
01:22:56,721 --> 01:23:00,225
That's where the testicles
come in.
1547
01:23:00,308 --> 01:23:04,938
Ten miles, anything can happen
in ten miles, anything.
1548
01:23:23,498 --> 01:23:24,416
At Indy,
1549
01:23:24,582 --> 01:23:27,335
you've got three chances
to qualify with each car.
1550
01:23:27,544 --> 01:23:30,046
For the bigger teams,
they are going to have multiple cars.
1551
01:23:30,130 --> 01:23:31,631
They're multiplying their chances.
1552
01:23:31,715 --> 01:23:33,633
If you were notone of the wealthy teams,
1553
01:23:33,717 --> 01:23:35,969
which wasthe Walker experience,
1554
01:23:36,052 --> 01:23:38,596
you've got one car.You've got three chances.
1555
01:23:38,763 --> 01:23:41,141
You loose anyof those three chances,
1556
01:23:41,224 --> 01:23:43,893
temperature starts risingand the odds of you making it
1557
01:23:43,977 --> 01:23:45,812
in the show goes down drastically.
1558
01:23:46,229 --> 01:23:51,192
The track is openfor qualifications.
1559
01:23:51,276 --> 01:23:54,154
We purposelydidn't qualify on pole day,
1560
01:23:54,237 --> 01:23:56,364
because Derrick wantedto get more track time.
1561
01:23:56,573 --> 01:23:58,908
Tim Wardrop wanted
to get more track time.
1562
01:23:59,034 --> 01:24:03,913
And so, we went to the following
weekend to qualify.
1563
01:24:03,997 --> 01:24:07,333
At that time, the rules
allowed you to go with
1564
01:24:07,417 --> 01:24:11,671
a Buick turbocharged engineand it had more power.
1565
01:24:11,755 --> 01:24:14,257
And Derrick thought
and Wardrop thought,
1566
01:24:14,340 --> 01:24:16,843
"Look, let's get somehorse power out of this thing."
1567
01:24:16,926 --> 01:24:18,720
So we went to the Buick engine.
1568
01:24:18,803 --> 01:24:21,097
Buick is a bigger engine, it's heavier.
1569
01:24:21,181 --> 01:24:23,933
That took a few days to get done.
1570
01:24:24,017 --> 01:24:26,061
So I was losing track of time
1571
01:24:26,144 --> 01:24:28,605
because we had to totallychange the car.
1572
01:24:28,688 --> 01:24:30,940
Came out the second week,
started running.
1573
01:24:31,024 --> 01:24:34,402
Up to speed, two laps, get her
up to speed and get it going.
1574
01:24:34,778 --> 01:24:37,322
If it don't feel right,
just get on the radio
1575
01:24:37,405 --> 01:24:39,407
or put your hand up,
we'll wave it off.
1576
01:24:39,491 --> 01:24:41,159
You know, three attempts,
so no rush.
1577
01:24:41,242 --> 01:24:42,327
Okay, well--
1578
01:24:42,410 --> 01:24:44,287
- Right on the ballpark.
- All right.
1579
01:24:44,871 --> 01:24:47,373
Listen for that valve in case
that valve blows off,
1580
01:24:47,457 --> 01:24:50,043
just bag it back a bit
if it does come up.
1581
01:24:50,126 --> 01:24:52,128
- Okay.
- But you'll be all right.
1582
01:24:52,212 --> 01:24:53,421
Nice and consistent.
1583
01:24:54,839 --> 01:24:57,675
The engine had lotsof power when it was going.
1584
01:24:58,635 --> 01:25:00,303
But it never went too long.
1585
01:25:00,804 --> 01:25:02,889
It was likea ticking time bomb.
1586
01:25:03,098 --> 01:25:05,058
Looks likewe have a blown engine.
1587
01:25:05,141 --> 01:25:06,684
Yeah, looks like Willy T. Ribbs.
1588
01:25:06,768 --> 01:25:08,520
Buick engines in this era
1589
01:25:08,603 --> 01:25:11,314
were six cylinder
turbocharged fireworks.
1590
01:25:11,773 --> 01:25:14,859
This was a bad, bad situation.
1591
01:25:15,902 --> 01:25:18,321
People were actually
feeling really sorry for us
1592
01:25:18,404 --> 01:25:21,032
'cause they look up,
then here goes Willy again.
1593
01:25:21,407 --> 01:25:22,659
Big cloud of smoke.
1594
01:25:22,992 --> 01:25:24,828
That's the only race I found.
1595
01:25:25,370 --> 01:25:26,621
Since I've been racing that
1596
01:25:26,913 --> 01:25:29,290
there's camaraderie
amongst the drivers.
1597
01:25:29,374 --> 01:25:32,377
There, you almost have sympathy,
1598
01:25:32,460 --> 01:25:34,921
and empathy for each other.
1599
01:25:35,171 --> 01:25:38,174
They look at each other
with total respect
1600
01:25:38,299 --> 01:25:39,759
and total understanding
1601
01:25:39,843 --> 01:25:43,054
because of the natureof the beast.
1602
01:25:44,597 --> 01:25:47,976
One of the most
important people that
1603
01:25:48,059 --> 01:25:50,103
came to see me was Joie Ray.
1604
01:25:50,186 --> 01:25:51,604
Awesome race driver,
1605
01:25:51,688 --> 01:25:53,398
who happened to be African-American.
1606
01:25:55,733 --> 01:25:57,193
The generation before me
1607
01:25:57,610 --> 01:25:59,779
who never got the opportunity.
1608
01:25:59,863 --> 01:26:01,698
Joie Ray was a badass.
1609
01:26:01,948 --> 01:26:03,199
Under...
1610
01:26:04,784 --> 01:26:05,994
On ovals...
1611
01:26:07,787 --> 01:26:09,581
Joie Ray was awesome.
1612
01:26:12,041 --> 01:26:13,459
He came to my pit
1613
01:26:13,543 --> 01:26:16,004
and he was standingbehind the rope.
1614
01:26:16,796 --> 01:26:19,007
I walked out immediately
and I said,
1615
01:26:19,090 --> 01:26:20,675
"Why are you standing here?
Come in."
1616
01:26:20,758 --> 01:26:22,468
"Oh, I didn't want to bother you."
1617
01:26:22,552 --> 01:26:23,928
Bullshit.
1618
01:26:24,095 --> 01:26:27,974
Every day that you come, you come
straight into the garage.
1619
01:26:29,392 --> 01:26:31,811
He gave me a lot of confidence.
1620
01:26:31,895 --> 01:26:33,980
Just his energy.
1621
01:26:34,063 --> 01:26:36,399
I was so honoredto have him there.
1622
01:26:36,524 --> 01:26:38,401
Every day, he would come
1623
01:26:38,484 --> 01:26:41,279
and every day,he was in my pit.
1624
01:26:43,489 --> 01:26:45,909
During the month of May,
you meet a lot of people.
1625
01:26:45,992 --> 01:26:48,036
A lot of people that
you've never met before.
1626
01:26:48,286 --> 01:26:51,873
Rick Mears isa four-time Indy champion.
1627
01:26:51,956 --> 01:26:54,792
Willy went over and talked
to Rick during his qualifying
1628
01:26:54,876 --> 01:26:56,753
trying to get the car to settle down.
1629
01:26:56,878 --> 01:26:58,213
Rick Mears had noticed
1630
01:26:58,296 --> 01:27:02,592
that I was making my entryto the corner too soon.
1631
01:27:02,842 --> 01:27:05,887
He said to me,
"You're diamonding the corner.
1632
01:27:05,970 --> 01:27:08,097
I want you to bowl the corner.
1633
01:27:08,181 --> 01:27:11,684
I want you to get to the cornerand wait till the last second.
1634
01:27:12,101 --> 01:27:13,603
Don't turn down early."
1635
01:27:13,686 --> 01:27:15,730
Rick Mears becamea school teacher said Willy.
1636
01:27:15,813 --> 01:27:19,442
"You need to do this,this, this and this."
1637
01:27:19,567 --> 01:27:21,361
Just with thatone little move,
1638
01:27:21,444 --> 01:27:24,948
I picked up five miles
per hour, just like that.
1639
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:27,867
Unfortunately,the reliability of the car
1640
01:27:27,951 --> 01:27:31,120
has not been as goodas Willy's speed has been.
1641
01:27:31,204 --> 01:27:34,207
We wanted to go out and find out
if there was any problems
1642
01:27:34,290 --> 01:27:38,461
and you know, we have a little bit
of a clutch problem right now.
1643
01:27:38,544 --> 01:27:41,297
So we want to get that sorted out.
1644
01:27:41,923 --> 01:27:44,384
When you start Indywith $350,000,
1645
01:27:44,509 --> 01:27:46,511
your money is already spent
by the time you show up
1646
01:27:46,594 --> 01:27:50,556
on a used car, used engine,
used everything.
1647
01:27:50,807 --> 01:27:53,726
As you crashor you blow an engine,
1648
01:27:53,893 --> 01:27:56,562
things really start to get stressed.
1649
01:27:56,646 --> 01:27:59,315
So what happens, blows one motor.
1650
01:27:59,732 --> 01:28:02,652
Another engine blows.
1651
01:28:02,735 --> 01:28:06,781
We're talking three motorsin total are blown.
1652
01:28:08,616 --> 01:28:10,159
We were out of engines.
1653
01:28:19,711 --> 01:28:21,462
I think there was a sense of pity,
1654
01:28:21,546 --> 01:28:23,339
that this wasn't deserved.
1655
01:28:23,548 --> 01:28:26,384
I don't know how they kept going.
1656
01:28:26,467 --> 01:28:28,553
Derrick Walker,his team manager and team owner
1657
01:28:28,636 --> 01:28:30,054
who actually owns the car
1658
01:28:30,138 --> 01:28:32,223
told me last night,
"Derek, I'm out of business."
1659
01:28:36,227 --> 01:28:37,061
Do you think he'll get in?
1660
01:28:37,145 --> 01:28:39,522
Just a gut feel.
Are they gonna make it or not?
1661
01:28:40,815 --> 01:28:42,317
It's so hard.
1662
01:28:47,447 --> 01:28:50,366
We were out of money
and out of everything.
1663
01:28:50,575 --> 01:28:54,746
And not knowing what to do
coming down to the wire.
1664
01:28:54,829 --> 01:28:58,041
And Buick really tried to helpall of its teams
1665
01:28:58,124 --> 01:29:00,626
that ran its engine.
1666
01:29:00,710 --> 01:29:03,046
Scott Brayton's team,it was a Buick team.
1667
01:29:03,129 --> 01:29:06,132
They had an engine therewhich was owned by Buick.
1668
01:29:07,550 --> 01:29:08,885
Through a lot of phone calls,
1669
01:29:08,968 --> 01:29:10,928
a lot of pleading
on Derrick Walker's end,
1670
01:29:11,054 --> 01:29:13,848
and others lobbyingBuick to step in.
1671
01:29:13,931 --> 01:29:16,225
"Hey, is there somethingyou can do?
1672
01:29:16,309 --> 01:29:17,810
We've got nothing left.
1673
01:29:17,894 --> 01:29:21,147
We don't have money to buyourselves out of this problem.
1674
01:29:21,314 --> 01:29:23,649
Can you intervene to help us?"
1675
01:29:23,941 --> 01:29:26,277
The Buick Motor Sports representative
1676
01:29:26,361 --> 01:29:28,279
did not want to give us another engine.
1677
01:29:29,197 --> 01:29:30,531
He said no.
1678
01:29:32,116 --> 01:29:35,620
And there was some, some squeezing,
1679
01:29:35,703 --> 01:29:39,457
some, some nut squeezing on Sunday.
1680
01:29:42,043 --> 01:29:44,378
Somebody got their ballssqueezed real hard
1681
01:29:44,462 --> 01:29:46,839
and how badit was gonna look if Buick
1682
01:29:46,923 --> 01:29:49,133
didn't have an engine for me.
1683
01:29:56,516 --> 01:29:58,476
And we had an engine.
1684
01:30:02,105 --> 01:30:04,232
And then it's bump day.
1685
01:30:04,315 --> 01:30:07,860
This is your one last dayto get into the Indy 500.
1686
01:30:10,613 --> 01:30:12,406
More than 33 cars showed up.
1687
01:30:12,698 --> 01:30:14,909
The fastest 33 take the start,
1688
01:30:14,992 --> 01:30:17,703
everyone else goes home.End of story.
1689
01:30:17,787 --> 01:30:20,331
It was a nerve-racking experience.
1690
01:30:20,414 --> 01:30:23,126
Because you always had more cars
than you had positions.
1691
01:30:23,209 --> 01:30:27,046
So we were really worriedat not being fast enough
1692
01:30:27,130 --> 01:30:29,298
and not getting a chance.
1693
01:30:29,549 --> 01:30:30,925
We had a problemearly in the morning
1694
01:30:31,008 --> 01:30:32,135
with this new motor.
1695
01:30:32,218 --> 01:30:36,722
Oh, my God, we broke
another motor yet again.
1696
01:30:36,806 --> 01:30:40,017
All right, just smoking.
1697
01:30:40,268 --> 01:30:41,853
We're dead meat,we are gonna go home.
1698
01:30:41,936 --> 01:30:45,064
No, no, it's not your fault.
1699
01:30:45,148 --> 01:30:47,984
We told them
it was laying down on us so...
1700
01:30:48,317 --> 01:30:52,488
The thing was just
laboring the whole time.
1701
01:30:52,572 --> 01:30:56,784
And then when I went out
this time, the thing just died.
1702
01:30:57,160 --> 01:30:59,912
Did you just lose power
or did it feel mechanical?
1703
01:30:59,996 --> 01:31:01,789
- Just lost power.
- And no boost?
1704
01:31:02,123 --> 01:31:03,207
Uh, no boost.
1705
01:31:03,291 --> 01:31:04,876
So it maybe in the turbo.
1706
01:31:04,959 --> 01:31:06,127
When the turbo blows,
1707
01:31:06,210 --> 01:31:08,921
it's not just replacing
a single part.
1708
01:31:09,046 --> 01:31:11,048
It's concerns about,did metal shavings
1709
01:31:11,132 --> 01:31:13,259
and other thingsget into the oil system?
1710
01:31:13,467 --> 01:31:15,636
So rather than just unboltingthe broken piece
1711
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:17,305
and putting a fresh one in,
1712
01:31:17,388 --> 01:31:20,183
the team also has to doa forensic investigation
1713
01:31:20,266 --> 01:31:22,768
and lose more time.
1714
01:31:22,852 --> 01:31:26,355
The point is that at six o'clock
this afternoon Indy time,
1715
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:29,984
it's all over, there are no more
chances to make the show.
1716
01:31:30,067 --> 01:31:33,070
Probably the wildestroller coaster ride
1717
01:31:33,237 --> 01:31:35,698
of the month in terms
of emotions has been experienced
1718
01:31:35,781 --> 01:31:37,533
by Willy Ribbs,attempting to become
1719
01:31:37,617 --> 01:31:40,036
the first black driverever to make the race.
1720
01:31:40,119 --> 01:31:41,621
Getting into the race
1721
01:31:41,787 --> 01:31:43,414
is gonna require an average speed
1722
01:31:43,497 --> 01:31:45,875
of about 217 miles an hour.
1723
01:31:46,375 --> 01:31:48,794
He hadn't been over 210.
1724
01:31:48,961 --> 01:31:50,504
Might not sound like much.
1725
01:31:50,671 --> 01:31:53,966
It is night and day difference.
1726
01:31:54,050 --> 01:31:55,509
We were searchingfor the speed
1727
01:31:55,593 --> 01:31:57,970
and it wasn't coming easily
and Willy was getting
1728
01:31:58,054 --> 01:32:01,724
very frustrated, quite dejected
that, "We can't do it, man,
1729
01:32:01,807 --> 01:32:03,768
we can't do it. It's just no way."
1730
01:32:03,851 --> 01:32:05,561
How many spots are left?
1731
01:32:05,811 --> 01:32:07,021
The field is full.
1732
01:32:07,104 --> 01:32:09,440
Okay, who hasn't run yet?
1733
01:32:09,523 --> 01:32:10,358
Didier.
1734
01:32:10,441 --> 01:32:12,818
We've got Didier, you, Randy.
1735
01:32:13,277 --> 01:32:14,820
Randy's not running.
1736
01:32:14,904 --> 01:32:16,572
- Huh?
- Randy's not running.
1737
01:32:16,656 --> 01:32:17,490
They're putting
another motor in it.
1738
01:32:17,573 --> 01:32:18,950
- Are they?
- I heard.
1739
01:32:20,868 --> 01:32:21,869
Fuck...
1740
01:32:25,248 --> 01:32:27,917
It took a lot of resolve.
1741
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:31,379
I had to really lookinside myself,
1742
01:32:31,712 --> 01:32:34,757
and say, "All right,
you gotta deal with all this.
1743
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:38,261
But you got to keep going
and you gotta keep your edge.
1744
01:32:38,344 --> 01:32:40,012
You gotta keep that toughness
1745
01:32:40,096 --> 01:32:42,014
that you were taught
by your grandpa."
1746
01:32:45,351 --> 01:32:47,770
Tim Wardrop showed Willy
a set of tires
1747
01:32:47,979 --> 01:32:49,605
and basically said,
these are special.
1748
01:32:49,772 --> 01:32:53,150
The tires that
he called "Magic tires."
1749
01:32:53,234 --> 01:32:55,319
He says, "I've been saving them
1750
01:32:55,403 --> 01:32:58,781
and I've kept them wrapped upin a closet."
1751
01:32:58,864 --> 01:33:01,117
He didn't want anyonein the team to know
1752
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:05,204
where they were untilthat final day.
1753
01:33:05,288 --> 01:33:07,081
Willy thought,"Wow, he's got special tires.
1754
01:33:07,164 --> 01:33:09,917
He's done something to those tires
to make them really fast."
1755
01:33:10,001 --> 01:33:12,253
If you ask any driver,
if you tell them
1756
01:33:12,461 --> 01:33:15,506
"special," they all want special.
1757
01:33:15,589 --> 01:33:17,800
To a driver this isthe magic set of tires.
1758
01:33:17,883 --> 01:33:19,260
These are gonna do it.
1759
01:33:19,510 --> 01:33:22,388
When you think that,
it makes a difference.
1760
01:33:23,055 --> 01:33:25,266
You will go out and go faster.
1761
01:33:25,558 --> 01:33:27,685
Honest to God, it happens.
1762
01:33:28,811 --> 01:33:31,314
Oftentimes your brainand what you think
1763
01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:32,898
will stop you.
1764
01:33:32,982 --> 01:33:35,860
Good engineers know this
about drivers.
1765
01:33:35,943 --> 01:33:37,361
We're all that way.
1766
01:33:37,445 --> 01:33:40,531
We are going to be limitedto what we think is our limit.
1767
01:33:42,199 --> 01:33:43,534
It's a brilliant move.
1768
01:33:44,994 --> 01:33:46,287
It's a dangerous move.
1769
01:33:50,207 --> 01:33:52,293
He said, "I want youto go out and in,
1770
01:33:52,376 --> 01:33:55,087
make sure they're balanced,
all the wheel rates feel fine."
1771
01:34:00,259 --> 01:34:02,303
They were like glue.
1772
01:34:03,179 --> 01:34:05,598
They were like glue.
1773
01:34:05,681 --> 01:34:09,101
This morning, we were
struggling around 210-211,
1774
01:34:09,185 --> 01:34:10,936
and we're scratching our heads,
we haven't changed a thing
1775
01:34:11,020 --> 01:34:13,439
and then we found out
we just had a bad set of tires.
1776
01:34:13,522 --> 01:34:15,066
And as soon as we strapped
the tires on,
1777
01:34:15,149 --> 01:34:17,777
we got going straight away 215.
1778
01:34:17,860 --> 01:34:19,028
Truth be known,
1779
01:34:19,111 --> 01:34:21,989
there probably were two
or three sets of magic tires.
1780
01:34:22,281 --> 01:34:24,200
At the end of the day,
he just made the stagger
1781
01:34:24,283 --> 01:34:25,659
a little differently.
1782
01:34:25,785 --> 01:34:29,372
The fact that Tim was ableto tell Willy for once,
1783
01:34:29,455 --> 01:34:32,500
this month we havea secret advantage for you
1784
01:34:32,583 --> 01:34:35,753
that is going to help
get you into the show.
1785
01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:38,047
That's the one thing Willy never had.
1786
01:34:38,130 --> 01:34:39,507
We pushed that car down
1787
01:34:39,590 --> 01:34:41,759
to put it in line for qualifying.
1788
01:34:43,386 --> 01:34:45,137
Willy had made
two incomplete attempts
1789
01:34:45,221 --> 01:34:47,139
so he was down
to the final strike.
1790
01:34:47,515 --> 01:34:49,308
Tim Wardrop says,
"You ready to go?"
1791
01:34:49,392 --> 01:34:50,810
I said, "Yeah."
1792
01:34:50,935 --> 01:34:53,187
He says, "Strong like bull,
1793
01:34:53,270 --> 01:34:55,689
cool like cucumber,let's go do it."
1794
01:34:58,317 --> 01:35:02,571
He had tears in his eyes.
He had tears in his eyes.
1795
01:35:05,157 --> 01:35:08,494
So I said, "Don't worry,
everything is going to be fine.
1796
01:35:08,994 --> 01:35:10,121
It's going to be fine."
1797
01:35:10,204 --> 01:35:13,040
The pressure that Willy Ribbs
had to have felt
1798
01:35:13,124 --> 01:35:15,126
in that qualifying effort
has to be more
1799
01:35:15,209 --> 01:35:17,962
than any other driverin the history of the speedway.
1800
01:35:18,045 --> 01:35:20,005
If I did not get it done
1801
01:35:20,089 --> 01:35:22,758
with this last run,
1802
01:35:22,842 --> 01:35:26,554
I might never make itback to Indy ever.
1803
01:35:28,347 --> 01:35:31,058
There was this huge buzz
in the air
1804
01:35:31,308 --> 01:35:34,478
as he went outto make his final attempt.
1805
01:35:34,562 --> 01:35:37,440
Fifteen minutes to go
before six o'clock.
1806
01:35:37,982 --> 01:35:39,191
I went out.
1807
01:35:39,275 --> 01:35:40,985
Going down the pit lane,
1808
01:35:41,068 --> 01:35:42,862
to enter onto the racetrack.
1809
01:35:42,945 --> 01:35:44,280
All the USAC,
1810
01:35:44,363 --> 01:35:47,032
turn workers
and marshals there.
1811
01:35:47,116 --> 01:35:48,659
They all salute you.
1812
01:35:51,537 --> 01:35:55,249
One black worker there,an older gentlemen.
1813
01:35:55,749 --> 01:35:57,126
He was crying.
1814
01:36:01,547 --> 01:36:04,383
He was crying as I went by him.
1815
01:36:06,594 --> 01:36:09,305
And I turned away and I said,
"Shit, I can't look at him.
1816
01:36:09,472 --> 01:36:11,682
He's gonna make me cry."
1817
01:36:11,765 --> 01:36:13,392
Without a doubt,it's certainly
1818
01:36:13,476 --> 01:36:14,685
his lifelong goal
1819
01:36:14,768 --> 01:36:17,521
that is on the line herein the next four laps.
1820
01:36:17,605 --> 01:36:21,233
The time he must beatis 213.189.
1821
01:36:21,317 --> 01:36:24,320
I fucking drove that
son of a bitch into turn one
1822
01:36:25,029 --> 01:36:27,948
on the opening lap.
And I pegged it.
1823
01:36:28,115 --> 01:36:30,284
Willy Ribbson the front straightaway
1824
01:36:30,367 --> 01:36:32,703
at Indianapolis takesthe green flag
1825
01:36:32,786 --> 01:36:35,873
in this historic effortto become the first black man
1826
01:36:35,956 --> 01:36:37,333
ever to drive the Indy 500
1827
01:36:37,416 --> 01:36:41,378
above the speedyou saw, 213.189.
1828
01:36:43,172 --> 01:36:45,549
I said to myself,"This is it.
1829
01:36:46,592 --> 01:36:48,761
Do or die, Ribbs."
1830
01:36:49,887 --> 01:36:52,139
Do or die.
1831
01:36:53,849 --> 01:36:55,559
Back stretch, 219.
1832
01:36:55,643 --> 01:36:57,478
I'd like to see thata little bit faster.
1833
01:36:57,561 --> 01:36:59,271
But the speed he comes offat the turn,
1834
01:36:59,355 --> 01:37:01,440
that depends on what hisstraight line speed will be.
1835
01:37:01,524 --> 01:37:04,193
Turn three, 216.This could be a good lap.
1836
01:37:04,276 --> 01:37:06,529
You run that motherfucker flat out.
1837
01:37:08,197 --> 01:37:10,950
The first lap at 217.8
1838
01:37:11,033 --> 01:37:12,785
and the crowd goes crazy.
1839
01:37:12,868 --> 01:37:15,788
They love that announcement,they are really pulling for this guy.
1840
01:37:15,871 --> 01:37:18,207
As a matter of fact,
I put my left foot
1841
01:37:18,290 --> 01:37:20,084
on top of my right foot.
1842
01:37:22,294 --> 01:37:25,464
I said that's just the way
it's going to be.
1843
01:37:25,548 --> 01:37:28,425
My word,everybody in the front stretch
1844
01:37:28,509 --> 01:37:30,511
here cheering Willy T. Ribbs on.
1845
01:37:30,678 --> 01:37:35,349
217, faster than he has evergone here at the speedway.
1846
01:37:35,432 --> 01:37:38,018
And if I crash this motherfucker,
1847
01:37:38,143 --> 01:37:41,105
this is how they are going
to find my fucking feet.
1848
01:37:41,188 --> 01:37:46,944
217.997.Ribbs is flying.
1849
01:37:49,530 --> 01:37:51,323
The white flag falls.
1850
01:37:51,407 --> 01:37:55,035
He is two and one half milesfrom history.
1851
01:37:56,203 --> 01:38:00,291
I'm either in the race
or you peel me off the cement.
1852
01:38:01,792 --> 01:38:03,168
He's almost there.
1853
01:38:03,252 --> 01:38:06,589
Two more corners,turn three and turn four.
1854
01:38:06,672 --> 01:38:09,883
Willy T. Ribbs looksas if he's in the fields.
1855
01:38:09,967 --> 01:38:12,344
Ribbs down, nothingcan go wrong now.
1856
01:38:12,428 --> 01:38:15,472
He can coastinto Indy 500 history.
1857
01:38:15,556 --> 01:38:18,100
The checkered flag falls.Ribbs has made it.
1858
01:38:20,686 --> 01:38:22,896
I looked up and I saw
all these arms.
1859
01:38:31,822 --> 01:38:33,449
And that's when I realized,
1860
01:38:34,450 --> 01:38:35,576
"You did it."
1861
01:38:35,659 --> 01:38:38,454
Incredible,long and difficult month
1862
01:38:38,537 --> 01:38:41,624
and here you see themback-slapping, hand-shaking,
1863
01:38:41,707 --> 01:38:45,127
they have certainly earnedthis moment of history.
1864
01:38:46,211 --> 01:38:48,047
It was a madhouse.
1865
01:38:48,714 --> 01:38:50,299
People on the bleachers,
1866
01:38:50,633 --> 01:38:51,884
people all over the track.
1867
01:38:51,967 --> 01:38:54,219
It was, it was a celebration.
1868
01:38:57,014 --> 01:39:00,017
When I was going downthe back straight, I felt like a king.
1869
01:39:00,225 --> 01:39:02,436
I felt on top of the world.
1870
01:39:07,650 --> 01:39:10,277
Those folks who qualify last
1871
01:39:10,361 --> 01:39:13,989
are some amazing, amazing drivers.
1872
01:39:17,284 --> 01:39:18,994
They took out some equipment
1873
01:39:19,078 --> 01:39:22,289
that some of the top guys
would not even dare set foot in.
1874
01:39:25,542 --> 01:39:29,797
And then something happened that
you never see at the speedway.
1875
01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:31,715
Everybody in pit lane, the mechanics,
1876
01:39:31,799 --> 01:39:33,425
the crew members,other drivers, officials
1877
01:39:33,509 --> 01:39:36,512
walk out to greet Willyas he's coming down pit lane.
1878
01:39:41,642 --> 01:39:42,893
One of those magical moments
1879
01:39:42,976 --> 01:39:45,354
in the 100-year historyof this speedway.
1880
01:39:50,401 --> 01:39:51,735
And I'm coming down
1881
01:39:51,819 --> 01:39:54,446
and I see all these peoplewaving their arms.
1882
01:39:54,530 --> 01:39:56,949
And mechanics from
the other teams
1883
01:39:57,157 --> 01:39:58,784
were giving me a salute.
1884
01:39:58,867 --> 01:40:01,829
And all these arms
from other teams
1885
01:40:02,037 --> 01:40:03,414
and I could tell...
1886
01:40:04,123 --> 01:40:05,916
That they appreciated it.
1887
01:40:09,253 --> 01:40:11,046
They were a part of the celebration.
1888
01:40:12,631 --> 01:40:15,884
They were a part of the momentbecause it was historical.
1889
01:40:21,724 --> 01:40:23,726
It was something
that never happened
1890
01:40:23,809 --> 01:40:25,352
in the Indy 500 history.
1891
01:40:25,436 --> 01:40:28,355
It was something that never happened
in the sport of auto racing.
1892
01:40:28,522 --> 01:40:30,858
Willy Ribbshas made history
1893
01:40:30,941 --> 01:40:33,861
in Indianapolis, and Americastands to honor him
1894
01:40:33,944 --> 01:40:35,779
as he climbs out of the cockpit.
1895
01:40:35,863 --> 01:40:40,033
It is truly a memorable momenthere in Indianapolis.
1896
01:40:40,284 --> 01:40:41,618
I never sawJackie Robinson
1897
01:40:41,702 --> 01:40:42,995
break the color barrier.
1898
01:40:43,078 --> 01:40:44,621
I never saw a lot of blacks do
1899
01:40:44,705 --> 01:40:47,040
a lot of historic things.
1900
01:40:47,249 --> 01:40:49,543
But I got to witness my hero
1901
01:40:50,085 --> 01:40:52,004
qualify for the Indy 500.
1902
01:40:54,047 --> 01:40:55,340
A sport that I loved.
1903
01:40:55,424 --> 01:40:57,843
A sport that I wanted
to be associated with.
1904
01:40:57,968 --> 01:40:59,178
Um...
1905
01:41:02,556 --> 01:41:04,349
I got to see Willy T. Ribbs
1906
01:41:04,433 --> 01:41:07,060
become the firstAfrican-American to qualify
1907
01:41:07,144 --> 01:41:09,354
for the greatest race in motorsports.
1908
01:41:09,438 --> 01:41:11,398
I got to witness that with my own eyes.
1909
01:41:11,482 --> 01:41:13,108
I was there.
1910
01:41:13,192 --> 01:41:16,236
I'll never forget it.I'll never forget it.
1911
01:41:19,948 --> 01:41:22,242
Joie Ray was in the pit.
1912
01:41:22,993 --> 01:41:25,329
And he had tears in his eyes.
1913
01:41:25,412 --> 01:41:26,747
And he said, "You did it."
1914
01:41:26,830 --> 01:41:29,917
And I said, "No, we did it.
1915
01:41:32,127 --> 01:41:33,420
We did it."
1916
01:41:36,840 --> 01:41:39,343
The team never gave upand that was tremendous.
1917
01:41:39,426 --> 01:41:41,094
They never gave up
1918
01:41:41,345 --> 01:41:43,555
and I wasn't gonna give up.
1919
01:41:46,767 --> 01:41:50,187
Gentlemen, start your engines.
1920
01:41:53,649 --> 01:41:55,859
Emerson Fittipaldi.
1921
01:41:55,943 --> 01:41:58,445
A.J. Foyt.
1922
01:41:58,529 --> 01:42:01,323
Willy T. Ribbs staring into history.
1923
01:42:04,618 --> 01:42:07,579
And the 75th Indy 500 is underway.
1924
01:42:11,583 --> 01:42:15,003
And there is an accident comingoff of the fourth turn.
1925
01:42:15,087 --> 01:42:18,006
Coming off of one,there has been an accident.
1926
01:42:18,090 --> 01:42:21,009
And Willy T. Ribbscomes into the pits.
1927
01:42:21,635 --> 01:42:24,763
I went out in 1991with mechanical failure.
1928
01:42:26,348 --> 01:42:28,976
I made it back in 1993,
1929
01:42:29,059 --> 01:42:31,144
and I finished all 500 miles.
1930
01:42:32,229 --> 01:42:34,815
Those 500 miles meant everything.
1931
01:42:36,233 --> 01:42:38,277
I wanted to show the racing world,
1932
01:42:38,360 --> 01:42:40,487
the color of my skin did not matter.
1933
01:42:44,491 --> 01:42:46,076
I won.
1934
01:42:46,702 --> 01:42:48,328
I won.
1935
01:42:48,412 --> 01:42:50,205
I didn't win the 500.
1936
01:42:50,289 --> 01:42:52,291
I won...
1937
01:42:52,541 --> 01:42:55,669
against all the obstaclesand the odds
1938
01:42:55,752 --> 01:42:57,129
that were against me.
1939
01:42:57,296 --> 01:42:59,131
Willy T. Ribbs is crashing.
1940
01:42:59,214 --> 01:43:00,924
Willy T. Ribbs spinning.
1941
01:43:02,551 --> 01:43:04,761
Everything thatI was dealing with,
1942
01:43:05,637 --> 01:43:07,806
I was saying, "I won."
1943
01:43:11,059 --> 01:43:12,144
I broke down
1944
01:43:12,811 --> 01:43:14,479
barriers that were
1945
01:43:14,563 --> 01:43:17,441
not supposed to be broken down.
1946
01:43:21,361 --> 01:43:23,697
All the trials and tribulations.
1947
01:43:26,742 --> 01:43:28,911
The setback in 1985.
1948
01:43:28,994 --> 01:43:30,662
From a bunch of guys that
1949
01:43:30,746 --> 01:43:32,789
didn't want me to be there for one reason.
1950
01:43:33,081 --> 01:43:34,708
And I knew the reason why.
1951
01:43:35,876 --> 01:43:37,920
It all came to me.
1952
01:43:39,338 --> 01:43:41,173
You didn't give up, Ribbs.
1953
01:43:49,181 --> 01:43:50,766
It was worth it.
1954
01:44:14,498 --> 01:44:17,292
There is no sport
more exciting than racing.
1955
01:44:17,376 --> 01:44:20,337
This is it.
This is the next best thing to heaven.
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