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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,768 --> 00:00:05,805 Moore: I had followed some cold cases for years, 2 00:00:05,805 --> 00:00:09,008 and so when I started working with Parabon, 3 00:00:09,008 --> 00:00:12,212 one of the very first cases I ever asked them about 4 00:00:12,212 --> 00:00:14,280 was the Angie Dodge murder case. 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:15,815 The night that Angie was killed, 6 00:00:15,815 --> 00:00:17,984 Angie parked right here by the boat dock. 7 00:00:17,984 --> 00:00:20,487 This case was a series of firsts for me ‐‐ 8 00:00:20,487 --> 00:00:23,857 the first time a victim's mother reached out to me directly, 9 00:00:23,857 --> 00:00:26,926 so persistently that I had to meet her in person... 10 00:00:26,926 --> 00:00:28,328 Good to meet you. CeCe Moore. 11 00:00:28,328 --> 00:00:30,363 ...the first time the police let us follow them 12 00:00:30,363 --> 00:00:31,398 as they hunted a killer... 13 00:00:31,398 --> 00:00:32,799 Aw [bleep] We just lost visual on him. 14 00:00:32,799 --> 00:00:34,434 We're trying to catch him. Man: Is that him? 15 00:00:34,434 --> 00:00:36,169 ...and the first time it appeared 16 00:00:36,169 --> 00:00:38,204 that genetic genealogy had led me wrong. 17 00:00:38,204 --> 00:00:41,841 ♪♪ 18 00:00:41,841 --> 00:00:43,710 I'm CeCe Moore. 19 00:00:43,710 --> 00:00:46,012 For years, genealogy was my hobby, 20 00:00:46,012 --> 00:00:47,981 and then it became my career. 21 00:00:47,981 --> 00:00:49,416 Soon, I realized 22 00:00:49,416 --> 00:00:52,385 that the techniques I developed to reunite families 23 00:00:52,385 --> 00:00:55,789 could also be used to identify killers. 24 00:00:55,789 --> 00:00:57,690 Now my team and I 25 00:00:57,690 --> 00:01:00,927 help the police hunt violent criminals. 26 00:01:00,927 --> 00:01:02,729 I'm a new kind of detective. 27 00:01:02,729 --> 00:01:04,731 ‐‐ Captions by VITAC ‐‐ 28 00:01:04,731 --> 00:01:05,899 Should I go? Marc: Yep. 29 00:01:05,899 --> 00:01:06,966 Okay. [ Engine revs ] 30 00:01:06,966 --> 00:01:08,134 Whoo! Sorry. 31 00:01:08,134 --> 00:01:10,370 Gotta get us out of that before this guy comes. 32 00:01:10,370 --> 00:01:12,539 Sorry. I don't want to kill you, Marc. 33 00:01:12,539 --> 00:01:14,307 [ Laughs ] 34 00:01:16,276 --> 00:01:20,814 I'm driving through some back areas of Idaho Falls. 35 00:01:20,814 --> 00:01:23,349 Not like anything I've ever seen before. 36 00:01:23,349 --> 00:01:25,985 There are some cows. 37 00:01:25,985 --> 00:01:28,822 I'm on my way to meet Carol Dodge, finally. 38 00:01:28,822 --> 00:01:30,790 I'm really excited to meet her. 39 00:01:30,790 --> 00:01:32,158 The mother of Angie. 40 00:01:32,158 --> 00:01:33,993 We've been exchanging e‐mails, 41 00:01:33,993 --> 00:01:36,830 but this will be the first time that we'll ever meet in person. 42 00:01:36,830 --> 00:01:40,834 And I look forward to learning more about Angie 43 00:01:40,834 --> 00:01:42,569 and what happened. 44 00:01:42,569 --> 00:01:45,872 This horribly sad case. 45 00:01:45,872 --> 00:01:50,977 ♪♪ 46 00:01:50,977 --> 00:01:54,514 Reporter: 18‐year‐old Angie Dodge was raped and murdered 47 00:01:54,514 --> 00:01:55,949 in her Idaho Falls apartment. 48 00:01:55,949 --> 00:01:57,951 Reporter #2: Someone had raped and killed her. 49 00:01:57,951 --> 00:02:01,020 Reporter #3: Angie Dodge's life was cut short last night. 50 00:02:01,020 --> 00:02:03,823 [ Police radio chatter ] Squires: This call came over the radio. 51 00:02:03,823 --> 00:02:05,592 A body was found, and suspicious... 52 00:02:05,592 --> 00:02:06,860 "Suspicious death. 53 00:02:06,860 --> 00:02:09,596 I want you to come and process this crime scene. 54 00:02:09,596 --> 00:02:11,498 Whatever you're doing, it'll hold." 55 00:02:11,498 --> 00:02:15,034 I'd probably been on patrol for a couple of months. 56 00:02:15,034 --> 00:02:18,137 It was my first homicide. 57 00:02:18,137 --> 00:02:20,340 Pratt: They cautioned me that it was 58 00:02:20,340 --> 00:02:22,709 a pretty graphic and violent scene, 59 00:02:22,709 --> 00:02:25,178 lot of blood. 60 00:02:25,178 --> 00:02:28,248 And then they pointed me toward the front door. 61 00:02:28,248 --> 00:02:30,750 I took photographs to show my approach. 62 00:02:30,750 --> 00:02:32,252 [ Camera shutter clicking ] 63 00:02:32,252 --> 00:02:35,154 I get to the top of the stairs, and I continue to photograph. 64 00:02:35,154 --> 00:02:38,157 I enter into the largest bedroom, 65 00:02:38,157 --> 00:02:41,828 and that's where I was able to see the victim. 66 00:02:41,828 --> 00:02:43,196 [ Camera shutter clicks ] 67 00:02:43,196 --> 00:02:46,499 She's laying on the floor, on her back, next to a mattress. 68 00:02:46,499 --> 00:02:48,468 It's not actually a bed. 69 00:02:48,468 --> 00:02:52,071 Her sweatpants were pulled down just above knee level. 70 00:02:52,071 --> 00:02:54,974 Her clothes are kind of disheveled. 71 00:02:54,974 --> 00:02:58,478 She had a shirt on that was slightly lifted up, 72 00:02:58,478 --> 00:03:01,281 and it was exposing one of the cut marks 73 00:03:01,281 --> 00:03:02,849 on one of her breasts. 74 00:03:02,849 --> 00:03:06,686 I can see that she has some extensive lacerations 75 00:03:06,686 --> 00:03:08,021 or stab wounds. 76 00:03:08,021 --> 00:03:11,558 And there is a horrific wound to the throat. 77 00:03:11,558 --> 00:03:12,692 There was a lot of blood. 78 00:03:12,692 --> 00:03:15,028 There were some blood marks on the wall. 79 00:03:15,028 --> 00:03:16,863 ♪♪ 80 00:03:16,863 --> 00:03:20,800 And then off to my right, 81 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:25,505 there was a laundry basket and some stuffed animals. 82 00:03:25,505 --> 00:03:27,507 ♪♪ 83 00:03:27,507 --> 00:03:30,243 It was probably the worst case I've ever seen. 84 00:03:30,243 --> 00:03:34,914 ♪♪ 85 00:03:34,914 --> 00:03:36,783 It's the nightmare. 86 00:03:36,783 --> 00:03:41,087 ♪♪ 87 00:03:43,456 --> 00:03:44,857 [ Vehicle door closes ] 88 00:03:46,326 --> 00:03:47,360 [ Doorbell rings ] Hi! 89 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:48,995 CeCe, CeCe. Hi. 90 00:03:48,995 --> 00:03:51,197 It's so good to meet you. 91 00:03:51,197 --> 00:03:53,433 Nice to meet you, too. 92 00:03:53,433 --> 00:03:54,867 I'm excited to see you. 93 00:03:54,867 --> 00:03:57,403 Really, it's such a pleasure to meet you. 94 00:03:57,403 --> 00:03:59,372 I can see Angie in your face. 95 00:04:02,408 --> 00:04:03,943 Sorry. 96 00:04:03,943 --> 00:04:08,181 When you have a child that's murdered, I... 97 00:04:08,181 --> 00:04:10,950 life just gets shattered. 98 00:04:10,950 --> 00:04:12,452 Mm‐hmm. 99 00:04:12,452 --> 00:04:16,823 And there's no way to put the pieces back together. 100 00:04:16,823 --> 00:04:19,325 ♪♪ 101 00:04:19,325 --> 00:04:21,894 I wanted to hear a little bit about Angie, 102 00:04:21,894 --> 00:04:23,596 what you could tell me about her. 103 00:04:23,596 --> 00:04:27,367 She was my ‐‐ not only my baby, 104 00:04:27,367 --> 00:04:29,569 but she was my only daughter. 105 00:04:29,569 --> 00:04:32,338 She really went through some hard times 106 00:04:32,338 --> 00:04:36,109 when she was younger because she was big for her age. 107 00:04:36,109 --> 00:04:38,011 Yeah, was she 5'11"? Or 6 foot? 108 00:04:38,011 --> 00:04:39,245 Mm‐hmm, mm‐hmm. 109 00:04:39,245 --> 00:04:40,980 And so she was bullied, 110 00:04:40,980 --> 00:04:44,183 and so when she would see other people being bullied 111 00:04:44,183 --> 00:04:45,685 or being messed with, 112 00:04:45,685 --> 00:04:47,453 she would get right in the person's face 113 00:04:47,453 --> 00:04:49,489 and say, "You leave him alone." 114 00:04:49,489 --> 00:04:55,361 ♪♪ 115 00:04:55,361 --> 00:04:57,864 Okay, we're gonna turn right here, left. 116 00:04:57,864 --> 00:04:59,332 Man, this is beautiful. 117 00:04:59,332 --> 00:05:00,800 Look at the light. 118 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,169 I grew up out here. You did? 119 00:05:03,169 --> 00:05:05,304 So you're a native. Yes. 120 00:05:05,304 --> 00:05:07,240 My mom and dad were really poor, 121 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,809 and my mother raised five girls with no bathroom. 122 00:05:09,809 --> 00:05:12,145 What?! We had an outhouse. 123 00:05:12,145 --> 00:05:13,513 Oh, my. 124 00:05:13,513 --> 00:05:15,081 [ Both laugh ] 125 00:05:15,081 --> 00:05:17,884 So, is this her block? Where she lived? 126 00:05:17,884 --> 00:05:19,485 Yes. Mm‐hmm. Okay. 127 00:05:19,485 --> 00:05:22,989 Pratt: It's an older neighborhood in Idaho Falls. 128 00:05:22,989 --> 00:05:25,158 It had...seen better days. 129 00:05:25,158 --> 00:05:26,559 ♪♪ 130 00:05:26,559 --> 00:05:29,062 Here, this was, you know, the backyard, 131 00:05:29,062 --> 00:05:31,030 and there was a chain‐link fence. 132 00:05:31,030 --> 00:05:33,533 Clark: Angie moved into a converted apartment 133 00:05:33,533 --> 00:05:35,668 that was the second floor of a house. 134 00:05:35,668 --> 00:05:39,605 And that's where she was the night she was killed. 135 00:05:39,605 --> 00:05:44,844 ♪♪ 136 00:05:44,844 --> 00:05:47,013 Angie was at my house that night 137 00:05:47,013 --> 00:05:49,582 until 20 minutes after 10:00 138 00:05:49,582 --> 00:05:52,852 because she moved out three weeks before. 139 00:05:52,852 --> 00:05:55,054 Only three weeks before? And one of the reasons why ‐‐ 140 00:05:55,054 --> 00:05:57,056 because she disobeyed a house rule. 141 00:05:57,056 --> 00:05:59,959 And I was so grateful that she had come over 142 00:05:59,959 --> 00:06:02,361 'cause I hadn't seen her for three weeks. 143 00:06:02,361 --> 00:06:04,397 Oh, that was the first time ‐‐ That was the first time ‐‐ 144 00:06:04,397 --> 00:06:06,799 Since she moved out? [ Voice breaking ] Yes. 145 00:06:06,799 --> 00:06:08,568 Oh. 146 00:06:08,568 --> 00:06:10,536 And the night that she came over, 147 00:06:10,536 --> 00:06:11,771 I rocked her and I says, 148 00:06:11,771 --> 00:06:13,940 "I'm just so glad you're not mad at me anymore." 149 00:06:13,940 --> 00:06:16,309 And she just looked up, she said, 150 00:06:16,309 --> 00:06:18,544 "Not even in a blue moon." 151 00:06:21,647 --> 00:06:23,983 And...next day, 152 00:06:23,983 --> 00:06:26,619 that's when they told me that Angie had been found dead. 153 00:06:26,619 --> 00:06:28,721 ♪♪ 154 00:06:28,721 --> 00:06:31,924 The police gathered DNA at the crime scene. 155 00:06:31,924 --> 00:06:34,660 ♪♪ 156 00:06:34,660 --> 00:06:38,598 The semen that we could see clearly all over the victim. 157 00:06:38,598 --> 00:06:40,967 Skin cells under her fingernails. 158 00:06:40,967 --> 00:06:44,270 Pratt: We found one hair that was obviously different. 159 00:06:44,270 --> 00:06:45,438 We believe it was a pubic hair. 160 00:06:45,438 --> 00:06:48,174 Some blood sampling, obviously. 161 00:06:48,174 --> 00:06:51,210 The killer absolutely left his calling card there. 162 00:06:51,210 --> 00:06:52,645 Jack: This was my only daughter, 163 00:06:52,645 --> 00:06:55,848 and I hope you come forward and make it easy on everyone. 164 00:06:55,848 --> 00:06:59,118 Squires: Almost every person that they brought in for an interview, 165 00:06:59,118 --> 00:07:00,753 they asked them for DNA. 166 00:07:00,753 --> 00:07:03,356 We're interviewing all family members, 167 00:07:03,356 --> 00:07:05,191 associates, friends of hers. 168 00:07:05,191 --> 00:07:06,425 Up to now, 169 00:07:06,425 --> 00:07:09,996 we have collected over 100 different DNA samples. 170 00:07:09,996 --> 00:07:12,331 There wasn't any matches. 171 00:07:13,933 --> 00:07:16,636 They spent months trying to solve this case, 172 00:07:16,636 --> 00:07:18,671 and they're getting nowhere. 173 00:07:18,671 --> 00:07:21,174 And then a friend of hers named Benjamin Hobbs 174 00:07:21,174 --> 00:07:25,545 was arrested in Nevada for raping a woman at knifepoint. 175 00:07:25,545 --> 00:07:27,480 Much like the similar circumstances 176 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,415 that had happened in Angie's murder. 177 00:07:29,415 --> 00:07:32,451 They began talking to a large number of Ben Hobbs' friends... 178 00:07:38,457 --> 00:07:40,092 ...including a guy named Chris Tapp. 179 00:07:40,092 --> 00:07:42,161 Slowly over the course of these interrogations, 180 00:07:42,161 --> 00:07:44,497 he winds up saying that he was assisting... 181 00:07:48,201 --> 00:07:51,103 ...and that he slashed Angie's breast. 182 00:07:55,174 --> 00:07:57,743 And then the DNA results come back. 183 00:07:57,743 --> 00:07:59,345 Neither Tapp nor Hobbs' DNA profile 184 00:07:59,345 --> 00:08:01,581 matched the CODIS profile. 185 00:08:01,581 --> 00:08:03,583 ♪♪ 186 00:08:03,583 --> 00:08:05,484 But Chris Tapp has confessed to the crime. 187 00:08:05,484 --> 00:08:07,286 So, in February of 1997, Chris Tapp was charged 188 00:08:07,286 --> 00:08:09,555 with the rape and murder of Angie Dodge. 189 00:08:09,555 --> 00:08:14,694 Guilty. 190 00:08:14,694 --> 00:08:16,762 [ Spectators murmuring ] 191 00:08:29,375 --> 00:08:32,879 The judge ultimately opted against the death penalty. 192 00:08:32,879 --> 00:08:34,981 They gave him 30 years to life. 193 00:08:34,981 --> 00:08:36,382 But it was clear 194 00:08:36,382 --> 00:08:39,452 that somebody else must have been involved in the murder. 195 00:08:39,452 --> 00:08:42,021 ♪♪ 196 00:08:42,021 --> 00:08:44,457 We still needed to find that other person. 197 00:08:44,457 --> 00:08:47,159 But nothing happened. Nothing came up. 198 00:08:47,159 --> 00:08:49,528 No evidence came forward. 199 00:08:49,528 --> 00:08:52,899 Moore: Carol Dodge is not happy 200 00:08:52,899 --> 00:08:55,234 that her daughter's killer has not been identified. 201 00:08:55,234 --> 00:08:56,736 ♪♪ 202 00:08:56,736 --> 00:09:00,840 So she decides she needs to investigate it herself. 203 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,043 Carol: I literally went to the streets. 204 00:09:04,043 --> 00:09:06,145 I kept going back and forth. 205 00:09:06,145 --> 00:09:10,850 I'd go home 3:00, 4:00, 5:00 in the morning. 206 00:09:10,850 --> 00:09:13,953 I kept reading all of the documents 207 00:09:13,953 --> 00:09:16,789 and the different reports that I had accumulated. 208 00:09:16,789 --> 00:09:19,058 Moore: The turning point comes 209 00:09:19,058 --> 00:09:21,994 when she decides that she's going to get 210 00:09:21,994 --> 00:09:24,530 Chris Tapp's interrogation tapes. 211 00:09:28,768 --> 00:09:31,671 And she starts watching hours upon hours, 212 00:09:31,671 --> 00:09:34,507 looking for any clues she can possibly find... 213 00:09:36,175 --> 00:09:37,877 ...to track down this mystery man 214 00:09:37,877 --> 00:09:41,047 that left the DNA at the scene of her daughter's murder. 215 00:09:47,586 --> 00:09:48,888 ♪♪ 216 00:09:48,888 --> 00:09:51,724 And over time, she realizes that 217 00:09:51,724 --> 00:09:53,993 he really doesn't know much about the crime. 218 00:09:59,398 --> 00:10:01,734 She comes to the conclusion eventually 219 00:10:01,734 --> 00:10:05,071 that the detectives appear to be feeding him information 220 00:10:05,071 --> 00:10:06,939 about what happened that night. 221 00:10:19,018 --> 00:10:20,987 Carol: For 13 years, I believed 222 00:10:20,987 --> 00:10:23,889 that Chris Tapp was part of my daughter's killing. 223 00:10:35,634 --> 00:10:38,304 So it took me a long time 224 00:10:38,304 --> 00:10:41,140 after doing all the investigation about Chris Tapp 225 00:10:41,140 --> 00:10:43,376 to say Chris Tapp's not there. 226 00:10:45,244 --> 00:10:47,813 Moore: So, in a major turn of events, 227 00:10:47,813 --> 00:10:51,317 Carol goes from wanting the death penalty for Chris Tapp 228 00:10:51,317 --> 00:10:53,753 to believing he should be exonerated. 229 00:10:53,753 --> 00:10:55,621 She becomes sort of an activist 230 00:10:55,621 --> 00:10:58,424 for the man she thought killed her daughter. 231 00:10:58,424 --> 00:10:59,759 [ Applause ] 232 00:10:59,759 --> 00:11:04,730 Finally, in 2017, the prosecutor decides to make a deal. 233 00:11:04,730 --> 00:11:09,001 After 20 years in prison, Chris Tapp is free. 234 00:11:09,001 --> 00:11:11,270 ‐Victory! ‐Victory! 235 00:11:11,270 --> 00:11:14,473 Moore: But he has this murder conviction 236 00:11:14,473 --> 00:11:15,941 hanging over his head. 237 00:11:15,941 --> 00:11:19,445 The prosecutor refused to expunge that from his record. 238 00:11:19,445 --> 00:11:22,748 And for the person who did kill Angie Dodge, 239 00:11:22,748 --> 00:11:24,717 there's a bounty on your head. 240 00:11:24,717 --> 00:11:26,786 Squires: As the years go by, 241 00:11:26,786 --> 00:11:28,921 it never stopped being investigated. 242 00:11:28,921 --> 00:11:33,459 Around October of '17, I took over the case. 243 00:11:33,459 --> 00:11:36,929 We were still trying to search for whoever this person was. 244 00:11:36,929 --> 00:11:40,132 But we have taken every street to the end, 245 00:11:40,132 --> 00:11:42,435 and there's nothing else to follow up on. 246 00:11:42,435 --> 00:11:50,976 ♪♪ 247 00:11:50,976 --> 00:11:52,645 Moore: Poor Carol had been trying 248 00:11:52,645 --> 00:11:55,981 to find her daughter's killer for 22 years. 249 00:11:55,981 --> 00:11:58,617 There is one person that killed my daughter. 250 00:11:58,617 --> 00:12:00,453 That's what the DNA shows. 251 00:12:00,453 --> 00:12:02,788 So Carol is not going to give up, 252 00:12:02,788 --> 00:12:04,757 and I want to be the one to help her. 253 00:12:04,757 --> 00:12:07,193 [ Voice breaking ] I just want to know. 254 00:12:07,193 --> 00:12:09,061 And I just know she was so scared. 255 00:12:09,061 --> 00:12:10,963 I'm gonna give you a hug. 256 00:12:10,963 --> 00:12:11,964 I'm sorry. 257 00:12:11,964 --> 00:12:13,866 I'm sorry I keep making you cry. 258 00:12:13,866 --> 00:12:15,634 That's not what I mean to do. 259 00:12:15,634 --> 00:12:17,136 I'm gonna do everything I can 260 00:12:17,136 --> 00:12:18,804 to help give you some answers. 261 00:12:18,804 --> 00:12:20,139 I just hope that I live long enough to see the day. 262 00:12:20,139 --> 00:12:22,441 So we got to get busy. 263 00:12:22,441 --> 00:12:24,477 Yeah, right? [ Laughs ] 264 00:12:24,477 --> 00:12:25,311 ♪♪ 265 00:12:31,984 --> 00:12:36,455 Alright, we're gonna talk about the murder of Angie Dodge. 266 00:12:36,455 --> 00:12:38,257 Tom, have you been in touch with the department 267 00:12:38,257 --> 00:12:39,358 about getting evidence? 268 00:12:39,358 --> 00:12:41,494 Yeah, so, there is evidence. 269 00:12:41,494 --> 00:12:43,496 They did say there's degradation. 270 00:12:43,496 --> 00:12:45,197 The 61%. 271 00:12:45,197 --> 00:12:46,765 Yeah, that's ‐‐ [ Sighs ] 272 00:12:46,765 --> 00:12:49,835 Working with DNA is like trying to put a puzzle together. 273 00:12:49,835 --> 00:12:52,371 Say you have 100 pieces in your puzzle. 274 00:12:52,371 --> 00:12:54,907 This was missing 39 of those pieces. 275 00:12:54,907 --> 00:12:57,209 Right at the margin for what we would accept. 276 00:12:57,209 --> 00:13:00,279 We have a number system that we use, 277 00:13:00,279 --> 00:13:02,548 and this case was a 4‐minus. 278 00:13:02,548 --> 00:13:05,618 That's like a D‐minus in a grading system. 279 00:13:05,618 --> 00:13:08,621 Moore: Genetic genealogy had never been done 280 00:13:08,621 --> 00:13:12,858 on crime‐scene DNA of this degraded quality. 281 00:13:12,858 --> 00:13:15,194 But CeCe is very tenacious. 282 00:13:15,194 --> 00:13:18,097 Carol, Angie's mom, writes to me almost every day. 283 00:13:18,097 --> 00:13:21,433 It'd be wonderful if we could help her gain justice on this case. 284 00:13:21,433 --> 00:13:24,203 So we uploaded it to GEDMatch. 285 00:13:24,203 --> 00:13:26,939 And at that point, I hand it off to CeCe. 286 00:13:26,939 --> 00:13:30,209 ♪♪ 287 00:13:30,209 --> 00:13:33,812 Moore: No cold‐case perpetrator had been identified 288 00:13:33,812 --> 00:13:35,915 using such degraded DNA ‐‐ ever. 289 00:13:35,915 --> 00:13:38,951 But I wanted to give this a try. 290 00:13:38,951 --> 00:13:43,255 I found two matches who not only shared DNA with the suspect, 291 00:13:43,255 --> 00:13:45,090 but shared DNA with each other. 292 00:13:45,090 --> 00:13:47,059 Genetic network #1. 293 00:13:47,059 --> 00:13:49,995 The top match was only about 107 centimorgans. 294 00:13:49,995 --> 00:13:52,198 This might be a second cousin once removed 295 00:13:52,198 --> 00:13:54,767 or a third cousin‐ish with the suspect. 296 00:13:54,767 --> 00:13:56,835 But because we're missing all of that DNA, 297 00:13:56,835 --> 00:13:59,672 I really couldn't predict what those relationships would be. 298 00:13:59,672 --> 00:14:02,041 So I had to dig deeper into that match list. 299 00:14:02,041 --> 00:14:03,542 I had three matches. 300 00:14:03,542 --> 00:14:04,810 57 centimorgans... 301 00:14:04,810 --> 00:14:06,145 32 centimorgans... 302 00:14:06,145 --> 00:14:07,546 26.6. 303 00:14:07,546 --> 00:14:10,683 It looked like fourth, maybe fifth cousins and beyond ‐‐ 304 00:14:10,683 --> 00:14:13,152 people who shared DNA with the suspect 305 00:14:13,152 --> 00:14:15,788 but did not share DNA with that first genetic network. 306 00:14:15,788 --> 00:14:17,256 My genetic network #2. 307 00:14:17,256 --> 00:14:20,459 They should have common ancestors with the suspect 308 00:14:20,459 --> 00:14:23,362 somewhere in their family trees, but because of the degraded DNA, 309 00:14:23,362 --> 00:14:27,967 I just didn't know how far back the connection was going to be. 310 00:14:27,967 --> 00:14:30,769 But I like building family trees, 311 00:14:30,769 --> 00:14:33,205 so that was not a problem. 312 00:14:33,205 --> 00:14:36,642 I'm using census records, death records, marriage records, 313 00:14:36,642 --> 00:14:39,211 all the traditional genealogical resources. 314 00:14:39,211 --> 00:14:42,448 And for genetic network #1, 315 00:14:42,448 --> 00:14:45,217 we're going back to second great‐grandparents. 316 00:14:45,217 --> 00:14:48,587 Their common ancestors with the suspect 317 00:14:48,587 --> 00:14:51,190 are Joseph Lathrom and Orlena Gaither. 318 00:14:51,190 --> 00:14:53,325 And I may not be pronouncing those right. 319 00:14:53,325 --> 00:14:54,727 Best I can do. 320 00:14:54,727 --> 00:14:58,097 Joseph also went by the name Josephus. 321 00:14:58,097 --> 00:14:59,999 He was born 1856. 322 00:14:59,999 --> 00:15:03,636 Orlena was born 1875 in Missouri. 323 00:15:03,636 --> 00:15:06,472 In one of the census records, he is a cashier. 324 00:15:06,472 --> 00:15:08,073 Orlena, of course, is a housewife. 325 00:15:08,073 --> 00:15:11,076 There was a tornado in 1880, a flood in 1885, 326 00:15:11,076 --> 00:15:13,178 and another tornado in 1888. 327 00:15:13,178 --> 00:15:15,381 Maybe that's why he decided to become a cashier ‐‐ 328 00:15:15,381 --> 00:15:18,951 because he wanted to get inside from out in that weather. 329 00:15:18,951 --> 00:15:20,419 Do we have the air conditioner on? 330 00:15:20,419 --> 00:15:23,055 [ Imitates choking ] It's so hot! 331 00:15:23,055 --> 00:15:24,723 Lennart, I'm so hot. 332 00:15:24,723 --> 00:15:28,394 When I'm hot, I am just not ‐‐ especially recently. 333 00:15:28,394 --> 00:15:32,398 I'm like one year‐long hot flash. 334 00:15:32,398 --> 00:15:33,732 Right? 335 00:15:33,732 --> 00:15:35,100 [ Chuckles ] 336 00:15:35,100 --> 00:15:41,573 And for Genetic Network #2, their common ancestors are 337 00:15:41,573 --> 00:15:48,380 Martin Van Buren Ussery and Sarah Adeline Morrison ‐‐ 338 00:15:48,380 --> 00:15:50,282 also second great‐grandparents. 339 00:15:50,282 --> 00:15:55,087 They were both born 1844, also in Missouri. 340 00:15:55,087 --> 00:15:57,756 Now, Martin Van Buren, that sounds familiar, right? 341 00:15:57,756 --> 00:15:59,558 Our eighth president. 342 00:15:59,558 --> 00:16:01,927 So, clearly, his parents were big fans. 343 00:16:01,927 --> 00:16:05,931 Martin served on the Union side in the Civil War. 344 00:16:05,931 --> 00:16:07,733 Fortunately, he wasn't gone very long, 345 00:16:07,733 --> 00:16:10,569 because they still were able to have 12 children. 346 00:16:10,569 --> 00:16:12,738 I'd say they liked each other a lot. 347 00:16:12,738 --> 00:16:13,572 [ Laughter ] 348 00:16:13,572 --> 00:16:15,074 12 children was good for them. 349 00:16:15,074 --> 00:16:17,009 Not so good for me 350 00:16:17,009 --> 00:16:19,511 'cause I need to follow those children 351 00:16:19,511 --> 00:16:22,247 forward in time to try to find the suspect. 352 00:16:22,247 --> 00:16:25,718 Who are the descendants of each of these common ancestors? 353 00:16:25,718 --> 00:16:27,486 Where did they come together? 354 00:16:27,486 --> 00:16:31,223 After hours and hours and hours of tree building, 355 00:16:31,223 --> 00:16:35,994 it leads to this one marriage ‐‐ Clarence and Cleo Ussery. 356 00:16:35,994 --> 00:16:37,296 Ah. 357 00:16:37,296 --> 00:16:40,065 The suspect has to be a descendant of this couple 358 00:16:40,065 --> 00:16:42,401 'cause we need that ancestral mix. 359 00:16:42,401 --> 00:16:45,671 They got married in December 1916. 360 00:16:45,671 --> 00:16:50,008 We have to build forward, try to find somebody of the right age, 361 00:16:50,008 --> 00:16:51,677 of course the right gender, 362 00:16:51,677 --> 00:16:54,213 and hopefully somewhere near Idaho Falls 363 00:16:54,213 --> 00:16:55,814 that could be our suspect. 364 00:16:55,814 --> 00:16:59,485 Fortunately, this family has really good obituaries. 365 00:16:59,485 --> 00:17:03,389 However, because of the degraded DNA, 366 00:17:03,389 --> 00:17:06,258 I'm not sure if it's one of their grandsons 367 00:17:06,258 --> 00:17:07,926 or their great‐grandsons, 368 00:17:07,926 --> 00:17:10,295 but they have six male descendants 369 00:17:10,295 --> 00:17:13,565 over two generations that could be Angie's killer. 370 00:17:13,565 --> 00:17:19,037 Five of the six males lived over 1,000 miles away. 371 00:17:19,037 --> 00:17:23,509 But one of them lived in Idaho. 372 00:17:23,509 --> 00:17:28,013 He was the only one who came anywhere near Idaho Falls. 373 00:17:29,948 --> 00:17:32,885 But I communicated all six of these names 374 00:17:32,885 --> 00:17:35,788 back to the Idaho Falls Police Department. 375 00:17:37,055 --> 00:17:41,727 As you know, we took the crime‐scene DNA, 376 00:17:41,727 --> 00:17:43,228 and I was able to narrow it down 377 00:17:43,228 --> 00:17:45,564 to six possible suspects for you. 378 00:17:45,564 --> 00:17:47,065 Now, many of my cases, 379 00:17:47,065 --> 00:17:50,369 I can provide one name or two brothers, 380 00:17:50,369 --> 00:17:52,171 but I'd say six is ‐‐ 381 00:17:52,171 --> 00:17:53,372 Squires: Pretty good. 382 00:17:53,372 --> 00:17:57,042 Pretty good. ‐Six is pretty good. 383 00:17:57,042 --> 00:17:59,144 Can I ask you something? Yeah. Please do. 384 00:17:59,144 --> 00:18:01,346 How would you get that familial information 385 00:18:01,346 --> 00:18:02,581 for the descendants? 386 00:18:02,581 --> 00:18:04,850 That's a great question. Just genealogical information? 387 00:18:04,850 --> 00:18:08,253 I was able to find obituaries for this family. 388 00:18:08,253 --> 00:18:10,956 It was not only the first big lead, 389 00:18:10,956 --> 00:18:12,524 but really, just about the only lead. 390 00:18:12,524 --> 00:18:15,427 Now, this fifth son is most interesting to me 391 00:18:15,427 --> 00:18:16,929 because they moved to Idaho. 392 00:18:16,929 --> 00:18:17,963 Wow. 393 00:18:17,963 --> 00:18:19,665 Even though it wasn't Idaho Falls, 394 00:18:19,665 --> 00:18:22,568 it was a lot closer than everybody else was. 395 00:18:22,568 --> 00:18:23,969 That's great. 396 00:18:23,969 --> 00:18:25,904 See? You are a detective. See? You are a detective. 397 00:18:25,904 --> 00:18:29,341 ♪♪ 398 00:18:29,341 --> 00:18:32,044 It was incredible. It was incredible. 399 00:18:32,044 --> 00:18:33,679 She was the key to making it happen. 400 00:18:33,679 --> 00:18:36,915 That just puts the onus for us to do our job. 401 00:18:36,915 --> 00:18:39,685 We're not just going off of the information we get from you. 402 00:18:39,685 --> 00:18:42,254 We're going to have to do the rest of the investigation 403 00:18:42,254 --> 00:18:44,723 to determine that that person was actually involved. 404 00:18:44,723 --> 00:18:50,195 Moore: So that means you all have a job to do. 405 00:18:50,195 --> 00:18:51,730 [ Laughter ] 406 00:18:51,730 --> 00:18:53,365 You always have a job to do, but you really have a job to do. 407 00:18:53,365 --> 00:18:54,933 Okay, I'm back to eyes on the trooper. 408 00:18:54,933 --> 00:18:56,401 Man: Aw [bleep] We just lost visual on him. 409 00:18:56,401 --> 00:18:58,203 We're trying to catch him. Is that him right there? 410 00:18:58,203 --> 00:19:00,305 And you guys are gonna have to work for this one. 411 00:19:00,305 --> 00:19:01,173 ♪♪ 412 00:19:04,176 --> 00:19:08,313 ♪♪ 413 00:19:08,313 --> 00:19:10,415 Sage: I think everybody knows why we're here. 414 00:19:10,415 --> 00:19:12,317 We're gonna try to get a DNA sample 415 00:19:12,317 --> 00:19:16,054 from a possible contributor that Cece has identified 416 00:19:16,054 --> 00:19:18,757 of our unknown DNA found at the Angie Dodge homicide. 417 00:19:18,757 --> 00:19:21,660 He lives in the area, he has the right surname, 418 00:19:21,660 --> 00:19:23,862 the right, I guess, autosomal DNA. 419 00:19:23,862 --> 00:19:25,697 [ Chuckling ] That's very good. Very good. 420 00:19:25,697 --> 00:19:26,865 [ Laughter ] 421 00:19:26,865 --> 00:19:29,935 Everybody's just like, "Whoa!" Sorry, buddy. 422 00:19:29,935 --> 00:19:31,336 I hate you guys. 423 00:19:31,336 --> 00:19:33,105 [ Laughter ] 424 00:19:33,105 --> 00:19:35,641 So, one thing that's beneficial for us 425 00:19:35,641 --> 00:19:38,810 is he's got two sons who will share a lot of his same DNA, 426 00:19:38,810 --> 00:19:41,813 and according to CeCe, even if we can get a sample from them, 427 00:19:41,813 --> 00:19:45,317 that'll help us to narrow down who our likely suspect is ‐‐ 428 00:19:45,317 --> 00:19:47,085 if it's a cousin, an uncle, 429 00:19:47,085 --> 00:19:50,422 or if it's in a different line of their family tree. 430 00:19:50,422 --> 00:19:52,824 I mean, this is the first step 431 00:19:52,824 --> 00:19:54,993 in what's gonna eventually help us catch this guy. 432 00:19:54,993 --> 00:19:56,495 I know ‐‐ it's the kind of thing 433 00:19:56,495 --> 00:19:58,196 that's been giving me goose bumps for months, 434 00:19:58,196 --> 00:20:01,266 and I'm excited about it, so I hope you guys all are, too. 435 00:20:01,266 --> 00:20:03,869 Get some gloves, get some swabs, get some evidence bags. 436 00:20:03,869 --> 00:20:05,237 Man: Good job, Sage! 437 00:20:05,237 --> 00:20:06,772 Autosomal. [ Laughter ] 438 00:20:06,772 --> 00:20:11,043 Autosomal, autosomal, autosomal! 439 00:20:11,043 --> 00:20:19,585 ♪♪ 440 00:20:19,585 --> 00:20:22,821 The person that CeCe had identified 441 00:20:22,821 --> 00:20:26,191 lives about 2 1/2 hours away from where we are. 442 00:20:26,191 --> 00:20:28,527 Moore: This potential person of interest 443 00:20:28,527 --> 00:20:32,397 was a family man, living out in a rural area. 444 00:20:32,397 --> 00:20:34,366 He didn't seem like the type of person 445 00:20:34,366 --> 00:20:36,234 that would do something like this, 446 00:20:36,234 --> 00:20:38,737 but I've learned in my work you can't always tell 447 00:20:38,737 --> 00:20:41,173 who is capable of such violence. 448 00:20:42,674 --> 00:20:45,978 Genetic genealogy is a lead generator, and that's all. 449 00:20:45,978 --> 00:20:49,047 Any information that I am providing to the detectives 450 00:20:49,047 --> 00:20:50,349 is simply a tip. 451 00:20:50,349 --> 00:20:54,987 So, we're just gonna, hopefully, find some piece of DNA 452 00:20:54,987 --> 00:20:56,121 that he discards, 453 00:20:56,121 --> 00:20:58,624 whether blowing his nose, drinking a soda. 454 00:20:58,624 --> 00:21:01,727 Moore: They have to build that traditional case 455 00:21:01,727 --> 00:21:03,495 and collect that DNA sample 456 00:21:03,495 --> 00:21:05,998 to compare to their crime‐scene DNA. 457 00:21:05,998 --> 00:21:07,699 Spencer: There could be DNA here that... 458 00:21:07,699 --> 00:21:09,801 Squires: We had made contact with 459 00:21:09,801 --> 00:21:12,204 their local investigators in that area. 460 00:21:12,204 --> 00:21:14,673 And we put a plan together 461 00:21:14,673 --> 00:21:17,342 between six and eight of our own detectives. 462 00:21:17,342 --> 00:21:19,845 Was mainly farm country. 463 00:21:19,845 --> 00:21:23,181 Mulden: Doesn't look like there's a really good spot 464 00:21:23,181 --> 00:21:25,917 to actually watch the house itself. 465 00:21:25,917 --> 00:21:27,452 We're gonna have to find out something ‐‐ 466 00:21:28,954 --> 00:21:31,056 Hey, Bill, I'm gonna take a parallel road. 467 00:21:31,056 --> 00:21:33,392 ♪♪ 468 00:21:33,392 --> 00:21:35,494 Squires: And so, to have surveillance vehicles around 469 00:21:35,494 --> 00:21:37,696 just stuck out like a sore thumb. 470 00:21:37,696 --> 00:21:40,399 ♪♪ 471 00:21:42,668 --> 00:21:44,336 The first day ‐‐ 472 00:21:44,336 --> 00:21:47,239 and it was a long day, a 12‐ or 14‐hour day... 473 00:21:47,239 --> 00:21:48,440 [ Engine starts ] 474 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,443 ...and we weren't able to actually get a sample. 475 00:21:51,443 --> 00:21:53,311 If we can get the father's sample, 476 00:21:53,311 --> 00:21:54,713 that would be fantastic, 477 00:21:54,713 --> 00:21:57,683 but if it's too difficult, perhaps we can get the son. 478 00:21:57,683 --> 00:21:59,718 ♪♪ 479 00:21:59,718 --> 00:22:01,687 We split half of the team on the son 480 00:22:01,687 --> 00:22:03,422 and half of the team on the father just in case 481 00:22:03,422 --> 00:22:05,190 'cause we didn't want to miss an opportunity. 482 00:22:05,190 --> 00:22:07,225 Mulden: This is the target vehicle. 483 00:22:07,225 --> 00:22:08,960 We'll keep an eye on him. 484 00:22:15,267 --> 00:22:16,601 ♪♪ 485 00:22:16,601 --> 00:22:19,137 Hey, John, we just got back into the parking lot. 486 00:22:19,137 --> 00:22:21,206 We actually have good eyes on the car. 487 00:22:21,206 --> 00:22:26,445 ♪♪ 488 00:22:26,445 --> 00:22:27,579 His son... 489 00:22:29,381 --> 00:22:31,416 Man: Copy this. We got eyes on him. 490 00:22:31,416 --> 00:22:33,418 ...ended up going into a local bank there. 491 00:22:33,418 --> 00:22:37,055 ♪♪ 492 00:22:37,055 --> 00:22:39,424 So, the farmer blow is right there. 493 00:22:39,424 --> 00:22:40,959 He came out of the bank 494 00:22:40,959 --> 00:22:44,596 and spit a couple of wads of chew here on the ground. 495 00:22:44,596 --> 00:22:46,598 You got it. 496 00:22:49,134 --> 00:22:50,936 We continued to surveil the father. 497 00:22:50,936 --> 00:22:52,738 Man: Stay with him as best you can. 498 00:23:01,980 --> 00:23:04,716 ♪♪ 499 00:23:10,756 --> 00:23:13,325 Tisdale: I love my wife, but you are now a close second, sir. 500 00:23:13,325 --> 00:23:15,260 [ Laughs ] Thank him. He did all the dirty work. 501 00:23:15,260 --> 00:23:16,428 Oh, my gosh. Here's sample 1. 502 00:23:16,428 --> 00:23:17,829 Beautiful. Here's sample 2. 503 00:23:17,829 --> 00:23:20,632 Well, Bill, you're the proud new owner of two spit tubes. 504 00:23:20,632 --> 00:23:22,467 [ Laughs ] 505 00:23:22,467 --> 00:23:24,002 That was awesome, dude! 506 00:23:24,002 --> 00:23:26,338 You know how I'm gonna pay you back? 507 00:23:26,338 --> 00:23:27,572 Ooh! Dinner. 508 00:23:27,572 --> 00:23:29,074 Dinner's on me. Ooh! 509 00:23:29,074 --> 00:23:31,443 DQ or Taco Bell ‐‐ it's your call. 510 00:23:31,443 --> 00:23:35,380 ♪♪ 511 00:23:40,619 --> 00:23:42,687 Moore: So, I'm really excited 512 00:23:42,687 --> 00:23:45,457 that they've been successful in getting this DNA. 513 00:23:45,457 --> 00:23:47,058 I was still on pins and needles 514 00:23:47,058 --> 00:23:49,127 waiting for those results to come in. 515 00:23:49,127 --> 00:23:52,631 The genetic genealogy had led to just these six cousins. 516 00:23:53,665 --> 00:23:58,069 But when the results came back... 517 00:23:58,069 --> 00:24:00,472 it seemed to eliminate all of them. 518 00:24:00,472 --> 00:24:02,474 ♪♪ 519 00:24:02,474 --> 00:24:06,611 It was a total shock. 520 00:24:06,611 --> 00:24:08,079 I just... 521 00:24:08,079 --> 00:24:10,982 I just couldn't figure out what had gone wrong. 522 00:24:10,982 --> 00:24:15,620 ♪♪ 523 00:24:15,620 --> 00:24:19,624 Squires: I really thought that we might be at a dead end right there. 524 00:24:19,624 --> 00:24:21,693 So it was really depressing. 525 00:24:23,495 --> 00:24:25,831 Moore: Never before had genetic genealogy 526 00:24:25,831 --> 00:24:27,732 given me the wrong answer. 527 00:24:29,901 --> 00:24:32,671 And I think the thing that I was most afraid of 528 00:24:32,671 --> 00:24:35,574 was failing Carol 529 00:24:35,574 --> 00:24:39,578 and having to tell her that I couldn't identify him. 530 00:24:39,578 --> 00:24:40,045 ♪♪ 531 00:24:43,048 --> 00:24:46,451 ♪♪ 532 00:24:46,451 --> 00:24:49,788 So, my tree that I like to sit in and read was just there. 533 00:24:49,788 --> 00:24:51,089 Back there? Yep. 534 00:24:51,089 --> 00:24:54,159 Moore: It's very hard for me to step away from a case, 535 00:24:54,159 --> 00:24:56,394 but I really was kind of at a dead end. 536 00:24:56,394 --> 00:24:58,430 I didn't know what else to do. 537 00:24:58,430 --> 00:25:00,799 There were times where I was very doubtful 538 00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:03,201 we would be able to do anything with this. 539 00:25:03,201 --> 00:25:05,937 It was incredibly discouraging. 540 00:25:05,937 --> 00:25:08,874 But it was nice to come back home. 541 00:25:08,874 --> 00:25:11,910 See, that was my parents' room right there. 542 00:25:11,910 --> 00:25:14,246 In the past, I was definitely 543 00:25:14,246 --> 00:25:18,149 not thinking about murders or rapes, 544 00:25:18,149 --> 00:25:21,786 but ever since I started working with law enforcement, 545 00:25:21,786 --> 00:25:23,855 I'm faced with incredible evil. 546 00:25:23,855 --> 00:25:26,258 And once you meet the family, 547 00:25:26,258 --> 00:25:30,962 I think it's impossible to deny how much these cases mean. 548 00:25:30,962 --> 00:25:35,166 Like the Dodge case, I think a lot about 549 00:25:35,166 --> 00:25:39,871 what it would have been like to have something like that happen 550 00:25:39,871 --> 00:25:42,674 here in Westwood, Rancho Bernardo. 551 00:25:42,674 --> 00:25:44,809 Everything would have changed. 552 00:25:44,809 --> 00:25:46,244 ♪♪ 553 00:25:46,244 --> 00:25:47,412 Welcome to The Mount. 554 00:25:47,412 --> 00:25:49,147 The Mount. 555 00:25:49,147 --> 00:25:52,183 By chance, my high school recently created a hall of fame 556 00:25:52,183 --> 00:25:56,388 and decided to induct me as one of the first people. 557 00:25:56,388 --> 00:25:59,557 My work with genetic genealogy 558 00:25:59,557 --> 00:26:02,394 was absolutely borne of a passion. 559 00:26:02,394 --> 00:26:05,430 It was never intended to be a career. 560 00:26:05,430 --> 00:26:07,899 Okay, this is great. Everybody looking right here. 561 00:26:07,899 --> 00:26:11,069 I didn't find this until I was in my 40s. 562 00:26:11,069 --> 00:26:13,571 So many of us women feel like 563 00:26:13,571 --> 00:26:16,841 we're kind of forgotten at that point. 564 00:26:16,841 --> 00:26:19,311 Being able to return... 565 00:26:19,311 --> 00:26:20,946 Thanks for being here. 566 00:26:20,946 --> 00:26:23,014 My pleasure and my honor. 567 00:26:23,014 --> 00:26:27,986 ...to receive this award really validated 568 00:26:27,986 --> 00:26:30,789 that I had made the right choices after all, 569 00:26:30,789 --> 00:26:33,325 because I really believe strongly 570 00:26:33,325 --> 00:26:38,596 that a big part of my success is the unwillingness to give up. 571 00:26:40,799 --> 00:26:42,467 So I decided that 572 00:26:42,467 --> 00:26:48,039 even when the odds looked to be stacked against me, 573 00:26:48,039 --> 00:26:50,742 I was not going to give up. 574 00:26:50,742 --> 00:26:53,244 I could not fail Carol. 575 00:26:53,244 --> 00:26:56,915 Carol demanded answers, deserved answers, 576 00:26:56,915 --> 00:27:00,618 and I knew I had to find a way to get them for her. 577 00:27:00,618 --> 00:27:02,487 I had to figure out what had gone wrong. 578 00:27:02,487 --> 00:27:04,823 Because it had to be a descendant 579 00:27:04,823 --> 00:27:06,658 of Clarence and Cleo Ussery. 580 00:27:06,658 --> 00:27:09,427 Now, because of my unknown parentage work, 581 00:27:09,427 --> 00:27:12,297 I'm always aware that there's a possibility 582 00:27:12,297 --> 00:27:14,132 there's someone that just doesn't show up 583 00:27:14,132 --> 00:27:15,166 in the written records. 584 00:27:15,166 --> 00:27:17,068 Was there a missing descendant 585 00:27:17,068 --> 00:27:18,837 that was hidden in the tree somehow? 586 00:27:18,837 --> 00:27:21,740 I harkened back to my earlier research 587 00:27:21,740 --> 00:27:24,776 where one of the grandsons had an early marriage. 588 00:27:24,776 --> 00:27:27,479 He was really young, his wife even younger. 589 00:27:27,479 --> 00:27:28,513 She was 16. 590 00:27:28,513 --> 00:27:29,981 And I was really surprised 591 00:27:29,981 --> 00:27:32,417 not to find any children from that marriage 592 00:27:32,417 --> 00:27:33,885 'cause most people don't get married that young 593 00:27:33,885 --> 00:27:35,253 for no reason. 594 00:27:35,253 --> 00:27:38,423 The problem was, there had also been an early divorce. 595 00:27:40,025 --> 00:27:41,960 I just couldn't find her. 596 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,963 Clearly, she had remarried, 'cause she just disappeared. 597 00:27:44,963 --> 00:27:46,865 So I decided to look at her parents, 598 00:27:46,865 --> 00:27:50,902 and my hope was that her mother would have an obituary 599 00:27:50,902 --> 00:27:53,705 that would name the daughter, and if she had any children, 600 00:27:53,705 --> 00:27:55,306 that they might be mentioned, as well. 601 00:27:55,306 --> 00:27:57,842 But not everything is digitized. 602 00:27:57,842 --> 00:28:01,846 And so, my right‐hand genetic genealogist researcher 603 00:28:01,846 --> 00:28:03,415 called the local librarian 604 00:28:03,415 --> 00:28:05,383 in that very small town in Missouri, 605 00:28:05,383 --> 00:28:06,785 and I got it. 606 00:28:06,785 --> 00:28:09,721 Not only does it name the daughter, 607 00:28:09,721 --> 00:28:11,423 but it names her son. 608 00:28:11,423 --> 00:28:14,626 He was born during that early marriage, 609 00:28:14,626 --> 00:28:16,828 but he was carrying his stepfather's surname. 610 00:28:16,828 --> 00:28:18,897 He was the right age. 611 00:28:18,897 --> 00:28:23,234 And in 1996, guess where he was living. 612 00:28:23,234 --> 00:28:24,969 Idaho Falls. 613 00:28:26,738 --> 00:28:29,741 Not just Idaho, but Idaho Falls. 614 00:28:29,741 --> 00:28:32,477 That was huge. 615 00:28:32,477 --> 00:28:35,947 I wanted to get this name to them as quickly as I could. 616 00:28:37,849 --> 00:28:39,851 Hey, everyone. How are you guys doing? 617 00:28:39,851 --> 00:28:41,019 We're scared. 618 00:28:41,019 --> 00:28:43,588 We're apprehensive about what we're gonna hear. 619 00:28:43,588 --> 00:28:47,258 So, I guess we can go over it on my screen. 620 00:28:47,258 --> 00:28:49,561 Squires: She begins to lay out 621 00:28:49,561 --> 00:28:51,596 all of the work that she had done on the report. 622 00:28:51,596 --> 00:28:54,265 And that makes them much less likely to be the subject. 623 00:28:54,265 --> 00:28:56,101 ...they only share... ...centimorgans... 624 00:28:56,101 --> 00:28:57,869 ...definitely not what we expect. 625 00:28:57,869 --> 00:28:59,003 ...major problem for us... 626 00:28:59,003 --> 00:29:00,772 Squires: I'm really expecting bad news. 627 00:29:00,772 --> 00:29:03,308 So we're kind of sitting there listening to this going, 628 00:29:03,308 --> 00:29:04,275 "When is it coming?" 629 00:29:04,275 --> 00:29:05,610 ...and we might never find them. 630 00:29:05,610 --> 00:29:07,412 She just kept us on the edge of our seat. 631 00:29:07,412 --> 00:29:08,780 It was excruciating. 632 00:29:08,780 --> 00:29:11,182 And... 633 00:29:11,182 --> 00:29:12,484 [ Laughs ] 634 00:29:12,484 --> 00:29:15,587 You're really adding a lot of drama for us on this. 635 00:29:15,587 --> 00:29:17,122 I'm not adding it. 636 00:29:17,122 --> 00:29:18,890 I'm feeling it. 637 00:29:18,890 --> 00:29:21,226 We've got him. [ Chuckles ] 638 00:29:21,226 --> 00:29:23,094 Are you serious? 639 00:29:23,094 --> 00:29:24,762 I'm serious. 640 00:29:24,762 --> 00:29:26,297 [ Chuckles ] 641 00:29:26,297 --> 00:29:27,832 [ Sighs ] 642 00:29:29,534 --> 00:29:31,536 [ Sniffles ] 643 00:29:31,536 --> 00:29:34,272 Our jaws about dropped. 644 00:29:34,272 --> 00:29:36,841 It was incredible. 645 00:29:36,841 --> 00:29:39,911 Now, we don't take anything for granted at this point, 646 00:29:39,911 --> 00:29:43,982 and we have to confirm all this information. 647 00:29:43,982 --> 00:29:48,319 But to have a lead like that after 23, 24 years, 648 00:29:48,319 --> 00:29:50,555 "huge" is probably an understatement. 649 00:29:50,555 --> 00:29:52,056 ♪♪ 650 00:29:52,056 --> 00:29:53,758 Moore: His name was Brian Dripps. 651 00:29:53,758 --> 00:29:56,528 Squires: Brian L. Dripps. 652 00:29:56,528 --> 00:30:01,132 Moore: At the time of the crime, he was 30 years old. 653 00:30:01,132 --> 00:30:04,269 It was just a few days before his 31st birthday. 654 00:30:04,269 --> 00:30:06,471 He was going through a divorce. 655 00:30:06,471 --> 00:30:09,274 He had a child being born. 656 00:30:09,274 --> 00:30:12,143 Dripps had only had some minor issues. 657 00:30:12,143 --> 00:30:14,245 There was a couple of misdemeanors on his record. 658 00:30:14,245 --> 00:30:16,814 Through our investigation, we find out 659 00:30:16,814 --> 00:30:20,118 that he actually was in Idaho Falls at the time. 660 00:30:20,118 --> 00:30:23,755 Moore: Not just in Idaho Falls, 661 00:30:23,755 --> 00:30:26,057 but right across the street from her house. 662 00:30:26,057 --> 00:30:27,859 ♪♪ 663 00:30:32,697 --> 00:30:36,167 Squires: It is 0620 in the morning, 664 00:30:36,167 --> 00:30:39,003 and we are in Caldwell, Idaho. 665 00:30:39,003 --> 00:30:42,440 We're gonna go set up on our person of interest's house here. 666 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,475 We don't know anything about where he works, 667 00:30:44,475 --> 00:30:45,810 so wherever he goes, 668 00:30:45,810 --> 00:30:48,613 we can tail him and try to figure out what he does. 669 00:30:48,613 --> 00:30:50,481 He's at the end of this street on our left. 670 00:30:50,481 --> 00:30:52,450 ♪♪ 671 00:30:52,450 --> 00:30:53,851 I just did the drive by. 672 00:30:57,021 --> 00:30:58,323 That's good news. 673 00:30:58,323 --> 00:31:01,526 ♪♪ 674 00:31:03,861 --> 00:31:06,864 Alright, so, this is where his house is. 675 00:31:06,864 --> 00:31:10,201 So, we've got a guy down here watching this intersection, 676 00:31:10,201 --> 00:31:12,103 we're up here watching this, 677 00:31:12,103 --> 00:31:15,106 and then we've got a guy down here, north. 678 00:31:15,106 --> 00:31:17,909 ♪♪ 679 00:31:22,614 --> 00:31:25,583 Yeah, we're not ‐‐ [ Clears throat ] 680 00:31:25,583 --> 00:31:27,785 I mean, it's something we got to keep in the back of our mind, 681 00:31:27,785 --> 00:31:31,155 in that, you know, this is a murder investigation, 682 00:31:31,155 --> 00:31:32,790 so if he gets desperate, 683 00:31:32,790 --> 00:31:34,792 then you never know what could happen here. 684 00:31:34,792 --> 00:31:37,695 We got to be careful. 685 00:31:37,695 --> 00:31:40,064 He was a concealed weapon permit holder, 686 00:31:40,064 --> 00:31:42,400 so we didn't want someone getting shot. 687 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,970 ♪♪ 688 00:31:45,970 --> 00:31:47,772 Albright: It's just a waiting game now. 689 00:31:47,772 --> 00:31:51,075 We could be sitting here for 2 minutes up to 12 hours. 690 00:31:51,075 --> 00:31:54,078 ♪♪ 691 00:31:54,078 --> 00:31:56,581 This is torturous. 692 00:31:56,581 --> 00:31:58,082 ♪♪ 693 00:31:58,082 --> 00:32:01,185 Just watching one intersection for one car. 694 00:32:01,185 --> 00:32:02,720 Then you start thinking to yourself, like, 695 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,723 how often do I leave my house if it's my day off? 696 00:32:05,723 --> 00:32:09,427 ♪♪ 697 00:32:09,427 --> 00:32:15,033 We've been going for 5 1/2, almost 6 hours. 698 00:32:15,033 --> 00:32:17,101 Just waiting. 699 00:32:22,807 --> 00:32:25,476 ♪♪ 700 00:32:25,476 --> 00:32:28,513 Tisdale: Cigarette is in hand. 701 00:32:28,513 --> 00:32:31,249 Man, this is it. This could be great. 702 00:32:34,686 --> 00:32:39,057 So, our subject is a couple cars ahead of us. 703 00:32:40,658 --> 00:32:42,794 We've got a UC guy right behind him. 704 00:32:44,395 --> 00:32:45,663 He's got eyes on him, 705 00:32:45,663 --> 00:32:48,333 and those cigarette butts are like DNA traps. 706 00:32:48,333 --> 00:32:50,868 They'd be perfect for collecting a sample. 707 00:32:53,338 --> 00:32:56,908 [ Engine revs ] 708 00:32:56,908 --> 00:32:59,077 I think I'm behind Sage. 709 00:33:01,512 --> 00:33:03,981 Affirm. I'm right behind Spencer. 710 00:33:08,019 --> 00:33:10,621 It's still smoking. 711 00:33:10,621 --> 00:33:13,124 Squires: Oh, my gosh, don't get out! 712 00:33:13,124 --> 00:33:14,726 Still smoldering. 713 00:33:14,726 --> 00:33:16,594 ♪♪ 714 00:33:18,029 --> 00:33:21,299 [ Laughing ] Oh! 715 00:33:21,299 --> 00:33:23,668 He just flipped it out. Spencer's got it. 716 00:33:23,668 --> 00:33:26,537 That could have just been our Huckleberry right there, guys. 717 00:33:26,537 --> 00:33:28,072 Yeah! 718 00:33:28,072 --> 00:33:29,107 That's awesome. 719 00:33:29,107 --> 00:33:30,708 It's right there. 720 00:33:30,708 --> 00:33:32,143 [ Laughter ] 721 00:33:32,143 --> 00:33:34,445 Hey, we're not done yet. Let's get to the lab. 722 00:33:34,445 --> 00:33:35,546 Let's get to the lab. 723 00:33:35,546 --> 00:33:36,681 Saddle up. 724 00:33:37,682 --> 00:33:39,650 Hello. Is this CeCe? Yes, it is. 725 00:33:39,650 --> 00:33:42,553 We were able to get a cigarette butt. 726 00:33:42,553 --> 00:33:44,055 It was still smoking when we picked it up. 727 00:33:44,055 --> 00:33:45,423 Good work! [ Laughs ] 728 00:33:45,423 --> 00:33:47,525 Albright: Hey, Cindy. 729 00:33:47,525 --> 00:33:50,027 Cindy: Hi. How are you? Very well, thank you. 730 00:33:50,027 --> 00:33:52,497 What do you think our turnaround could be on this sample? 731 00:33:52,497 --> 00:33:54,232 If everything goes smoothly, 732 00:33:54,232 --> 00:33:56,200 I should have a result by Sunday. 733 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,235 Oh, great. Yeah. 734 00:33:57,235 --> 00:33:58,736 Whoo‐hoo! [ Chuckles ] 735 00:33:58,736 --> 00:34:00,905 If it's not a match, I give up. 736 00:34:00,905 --> 00:34:01,939 [ Laughs ] 737 00:34:01,939 --> 00:34:05,109 ♪♪ 738 00:34:05,109 --> 00:34:08,246 Squires: The next day, I'm out on my lawn mower on Saturday, 739 00:34:08,246 --> 00:34:10,014 trying to get my yard mowed. 740 00:34:10,014 --> 00:34:12,116 Lieutenant Tisdale calls me, and I know 741 00:34:12,116 --> 00:34:16,020 he would only be calling me about this at this time, and... 742 00:34:16,020 --> 00:34:17,789 You're probably ready for some results? 743 00:34:17,789 --> 00:34:19,023 I am! 744 00:34:19,023 --> 00:34:21,826 Well, I think before we get to that, we should go back 745 00:34:21,826 --> 00:34:24,529 and talk about some things in more detail, you know? 746 00:34:24,529 --> 00:34:26,564 [ Laughs ] 747 00:34:26,564 --> 00:34:28,266 Yeah, thanks. Thanks, Captain. 748 00:34:28,266 --> 00:34:29,400 [ Laughter ] 749 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,068 I get what you're doing. 750 00:34:31,068 --> 00:34:36,240 So, our guy, Brian L. Dripps, is... 751 00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:39,877 the match to the crime‐scene semen. 752 00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:43,548 Moore: It was a huge relief. 753 00:34:43,548 --> 00:34:45,116 We've got our match. 754 00:34:46,284 --> 00:34:47,585 Squires: It was huge. 755 00:34:47,585 --> 00:34:50,988 That's probably where it set in the most with me. 756 00:34:50,988 --> 00:34:52,990 "Man, this is the guy. 757 00:34:52,990 --> 00:34:56,093 This is the guy we've been looking for for 23 years." 758 00:34:56,093 --> 00:34:58,296 Moore: So, how does it feel, guys? 759 00:34:58,296 --> 00:35:00,097 [ Chuckles ] Unbelievable. 760 00:35:00,097 --> 00:35:03,234 And now we're in game face mode, 761 00:35:03,234 --> 00:35:04,702 figuring out what we need to do 762 00:35:04,702 --> 00:35:06,304 for the rest of the investigation. 763 00:35:06,304 --> 00:35:07,839 ♪♪ 764 00:35:07,839 --> 00:35:11,008 My work's done, and your work is just starting. 765 00:35:12,176 --> 00:35:14,312 This is not just a regular case. 766 00:35:14,312 --> 00:35:15,780 It's woven in the fabric 767 00:35:15,780 --> 00:35:18,616 of every IFPD guy's career that's here. 768 00:35:18,616 --> 00:35:21,652 Hell yeah, guys. Let's do this. 769 00:35:21,652 --> 00:35:22,887 Let's go catch a murderer. 770 00:35:22,887 --> 00:35:29,293 ♪♪ 771 00:35:29,293 --> 00:35:31,596 This is the street he'll be coming out on. 772 00:35:31,596 --> 00:35:34,799 Our plan was that we set up in very similar surveillance spots 773 00:35:34,799 --> 00:35:35,967 that we were before. 774 00:35:40,238 --> 00:35:42,607 Sweet. Geez. 775 00:35:42,607 --> 00:35:45,776 And sure enough, right about noon, 776 00:35:45,776 --> 00:35:47,745 gets in his red truck. 777 00:35:47,745 --> 00:35:49,080 There he is. 778 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,383 Alright, I've got him. Stand by. 779 00:35:56,954 --> 00:35:59,257 He takes kind of a roundabout course... 780 00:35:59,257 --> 00:36:01,192 Yeah, it's kind of conspicuous, guys. Watch out. 781 00:36:01,192 --> 00:36:03,494 ...into the city. 782 00:36:03,494 --> 00:36:05,162 There's a bank. There he is. 783 00:36:06,731 --> 00:36:09,333 Yeah, just pulled into a parking spot, Idaho Central Bank. 784 00:36:09,333 --> 00:36:10,401 I'm thinking we should... 785 00:36:18,676 --> 00:36:21,512 We got our two guys on foot going in now. 786 00:36:21,512 --> 00:36:23,915 We're gonna stay outside, and our guys are gonna contact 787 00:36:23,915 --> 00:36:25,216 when he comes out of the bank. 788 00:36:25,216 --> 00:36:27,618 ♪♪ 789 00:36:27,618 --> 00:36:30,421 I can see Brandon in there on the phone. 790 00:36:32,690 --> 00:36:33,424 Man: 10‐4. 791 00:36:37,261 --> 00:36:38,663 Here he comes. 792 00:36:44,902 --> 00:36:46,470 Squires: He's in the bank. 793 00:36:46,470 --> 00:36:48,172 Man: Okay. 794 00:36:48,172 --> 00:36:50,441 Okay, stand by. 795 00:36:50,441 --> 00:36:54,078 Okay, he's gonna come out now. 796 00:36:56,047 --> 00:36:58,616 Alright, heads up ‐‐ he's heading for the entrance now. 797 00:36:58,616 --> 00:37:00,418 Heading for the exit. 798 00:37:00,418 --> 00:37:01,686 Yep. Yep. 799 00:37:01,686 --> 00:37:04,021 He's gonna be coming out. 800 00:37:04,021 --> 00:37:05,289 Here we go. 801 00:37:05,289 --> 00:37:06,791 Man #2: There he is. 802 00:37:06,791 --> 00:37:09,527 Camo fatigues, black shirt, big, long beard. 803 00:37:09,527 --> 00:37:12,029 They're walking up, making contact now. Stand by. 804 00:37:12,029 --> 00:37:15,466 Trying to see if he'll be willing to come down voluntarily 805 00:37:15,466 --> 00:37:19,103 and answer some questions at Caldwell PD. 806 00:37:19,103 --> 00:37:24,842 ♪♪ 807 00:37:24,842 --> 00:37:30,615 ♪♪ 808 00:37:30,615 --> 00:37:33,084 He's trying to get back in his car. 809 00:37:33,084 --> 00:37:39,290 ♪♪ 810 00:37:42,193 --> 00:37:44,228 Well, he's ‐‐ 811 00:37:44,228 --> 00:37:45,796 Oh, he's getting in his truck with him. 812 00:37:45,796 --> 00:37:47,732 John's gonna sit in his truck with him. 813 00:37:47,732 --> 00:37:49,567 I don't like that without the wire. 814 00:37:59,410 --> 00:38:04,081 ♪♪ 815 00:38:04,081 --> 00:38:07,351 We used the Caldwell Police Department's interview rooms. 816 00:38:07,351 --> 00:38:10,388 He denied any involvement right off the get‐go. 817 00:38:10,388 --> 00:38:14,792 This interview went for about 5 1/2 hours‐ish. 818 00:38:14,792 --> 00:38:18,262 And they told him, "We have your DNA." 819 00:38:18,262 --> 00:38:21,499 Squires: He still really didn't want to admit anything 820 00:38:21,499 --> 00:38:24,802 but wanted to take a smoke break. 821 00:38:24,802 --> 00:38:26,370 Then when he came back in... 822 00:38:26,370 --> 00:38:28,639 Pratt: He kind of slumps a little bit. 823 00:38:28,639 --> 00:38:30,641 He was silent for a couple minutes. 824 00:38:30,641 --> 00:38:34,478 And then he just said, "I did it. 825 00:38:34,478 --> 00:38:36,647 I raped her. 826 00:38:36,647 --> 00:38:38,816 And, apparently, I killed her." 827 00:38:38,816 --> 00:38:40,751 ♪♪ 828 00:38:40,751 --> 00:38:43,921 He told us that he had gone over there 829 00:38:43,921 --> 00:38:47,091 with the intention to rape Angie but not kill her. 830 00:38:47,091 --> 00:38:51,896 We asked him if anyone else was involved, and he said no. 831 00:38:51,896 --> 00:38:53,397 ♪♪ 832 00:38:53,397 --> 00:38:54,832 Pratt: This was the way 833 00:38:54,832 --> 00:38:57,368 to make this nightmare finally come to an end. 834 00:38:57,368 --> 00:38:59,570 It was a huge victory for me. 835 00:38:59,570 --> 00:39:04,675 ♪♪ 836 00:39:04,675 --> 00:39:06,711 [ Indistinct talking ] 837 00:39:06,711 --> 00:39:10,681 We've charged a 53‐year‐old man named Brian L. Dripps 838 00:39:10,681 --> 00:39:14,085 with the murder and rape of your daughter. 839 00:39:14,085 --> 00:39:15,786 [ Sobs ] 840 00:39:15,786 --> 00:39:17,354 Okay. 841 00:39:18,823 --> 00:39:23,694 Just 23 years ago, we were in this same building, 842 00:39:23,694 --> 00:39:27,732 hearing the sad news that she was gone. 843 00:39:27,732 --> 00:39:30,935 It was hours of interviewing. 844 00:39:30,935 --> 00:39:34,238 This was the one chance. We only get one shot at it. 845 00:39:34,238 --> 00:39:36,507 What's he done for the last 23 years? 846 00:39:36,507 --> 00:39:37,908 I don't know, really, 847 00:39:37,908 --> 00:39:40,144 if he's done anything, you know, worth mentioning. 848 00:39:40,144 --> 00:39:41,312 Does he have family? 849 00:39:41,312 --> 00:39:43,647 He's got three kids. 850 00:39:43,647 --> 00:39:45,483 Yeah. 851 00:39:45,483 --> 00:39:47,451 He's got three children. 852 00:39:47,451 --> 00:39:55,593 ♪♪ 853 00:39:55,593 --> 00:39:57,595 Moore: This is a story of perseverance ‐‐ 854 00:39:57,595 --> 00:40:00,297 of mostly Carol Dodge, 855 00:40:00,297 --> 00:40:03,067 but also of the Idaho Falls Police Department. 856 00:40:03,067 --> 00:40:04,268 They never gave up. 857 00:40:04,268 --> 00:40:09,006 Finally identifying that DNA was a triumph. 858 00:40:09,006 --> 00:40:13,344 The fact that we overcame so many obstacles and dead ends 859 00:40:13,344 --> 00:40:17,114 to finally be there was an amazing moment. 860 00:40:18,849 --> 00:40:20,918 Hey, lady. 861 00:40:20,918 --> 00:40:22,653 [ Sniffles ] 862 00:40:22,653 --> 00:40:24,188 It's good to see you. 863 00:40:24,188 --> 00:40:26,157 Ohh. 864 00:40:26,157 --> 00:40:28,859 So good to see you. 865 00:40:28,859 --> 00:40:30,361 Are you okay? 866 00:40:30,361 --> 00:40:32,062 [ Sniffles ] We made it. 867 00:40:32,062 --> 00:40:33,764 We sure as hell did. You bucked up. 868 00:40:33,764 --> 00:40:34,865 Sure as hell did. 869 00:40:34,865 --> 00:40:36,534 [ Laughs ] Yep. 870 00:40:36,534 --> 00:40:39,036 CeCe. Hi, Carol. 871 00:40:39,036 --> 00:40:40,371 Thank you. 872 00:40:40,371 --> 00:40:42,640 ♪♪ 873 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,308 It couldn't have been done without you. 874 00:40:44,308 --> 00:40:46,210 Well, it couldn't have been done without you. 875 00:40:46,210 --> 00:40:49,046 You're almost superhuman to us. 876 00:40:49,046 --> 00:40:50,481 ♪♪ 877 00:40:50,481 --> 00:40:51,982 [ Sighs, sniffles ] 878 00:40:51,982 --> 00:40:53,951 We made it. Thank you. 879 00:40:53,951 --> 00:40:57,521 ♪♪ 880 00:41:08,766 --> 00:41:13,170 Getting answers for Carol and having Chris Tapp exonerated 881 00:41:13,170 --> 00:41:18,008 was an incredibly rewarding end to such a complex case. 882 00:41:18,008 --> 00:41:20,244 [ Applause ] 883 00:41:20,244 --> 00:41:23,147 This is pure joy. 884 00:41:26,083 --> 00:41:27,351 [ Laughter, cheering ] 885 00:41:27,351 --> 00:41:30,421 It really was the pinnacle of my career. 886 00:41:30,421 --> 00:41:38,863 ♪♪ 65665

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