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Moore: I had followed
some cold cases for years,
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and so when I started
working with Parabon,
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one of the very first cases
I ever asked them about
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was the Angie Dodge murder case.
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The night
that Angie was killed,
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Angie parked right here
by the boat dock.
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This case was
a series of firsts for me ‐‐
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the first time a victim's mother
reached out to me directly,
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so persistently that
I had to meet her in person...
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Good to meet you.
CeCe Moore.
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...the first time
the police let us follow them
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as they hunted a killer...
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Aw [bleep]
We just lost visual on him.
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We're trying to catch him.
Man: Is that him?
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...and the first time
it appeared
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that genetic genealogy
had led me wrong.
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♪♪
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I'm CeCe Moore.
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For years,
genealogy was my hobby,
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and then it became my career.
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Soon, I realized
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that the techniques I developed
to reunite families
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could also be used
to identify killers.
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Now my team and I
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help the police hunt
violent criminals.
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I'm a new kind of detective.
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‐‐ Captions by VITAC ‐‐
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Should I go?
Marc: Yep.
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Okay.
[ Engine revs ]
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Whoo! Sorry.
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Gotta get us out of that
before this guy comes.
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Sorry. I don't want
to kill you, Marc.
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[ Laughs ]
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I'm driving through
some back areas of Idaho Falls.
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Not like anything
I've ever seen before.
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There are some cows.
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I'm on my way
to meet Carol Dodge, finally.
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I'm really excited to meet her.
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The mother of Angie.
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We've been exchanging e‐mails,
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but this will be the first time
that we'll ever meet in person.
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And I look forward
to learning more about Angie
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and what happened.
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This horribly sad case.
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♪♪
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Reporter:
18‐year‐old Angie Dodge
was raped and murdered
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in her Idaho Falls apartment.
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Reporter #2: Someone
had raped and killed her.
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Reporter #3: Angie Dodge's life
was cut short last night.
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[ Police radio chatter ]
Squires:
This call came over the radio.
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A body was found,
and suspicious...
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"Suspicious death.
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I want you to come
and process this crime scene.
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Whatever you're doing,
it'll hold."
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I'd probably been on patrol
for a couple of months.
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It was my first homicide.
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Pratt:
They cautioned me that it was
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a pretty graphic
and violent scene,
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lot of blood.
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And then they pointed me
toward the front door.
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I took photographs
to show my approach.
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[ Camera shutter clicking ]
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I get to the top of the stairs,
and I continue to photograph.
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I enter
into the largest bedroom,
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and that's where
I was able to see the victim.
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[ Camera shutter clicks ]
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She's laying on the floor,
on her back, next to a mattress.
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It's not actually a bed.
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Her sweatpants were pulled down
just above knee level.
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Her clothes
are kind of disheveled.
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She had a shirt on
that was slightly lifted up,
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and it was exposing
one of the cut marks
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on one of her breasts.
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I can see that she has
some extensive lacerations
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or stab wounds.
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And there is a horrific wound
to the throat.
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There was a lot of blood.
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There were some blood marks
on the wall.
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And then off to my right,
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there was a laundry basket
and some stuffed animals.
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It was probably the worst case
I've ever seen.
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♪♪
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It's the nightmare.
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♪♪
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[ Vehicle door closes ]
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[ Doorbell rings ]
Hi!
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CeCe, CeCe.
Hi.
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It's so good
to meet you.
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Nice to meet you,
too.
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I'm excited to see you.
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Really, it's such a pleasure
to meet you.
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I can see Angie
in your face.
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Sorry.
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When you have a child
that's murdered, I...
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life just
gets shattered.
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Mm‐hmm.
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And there's no way
to put the pieces back together.
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♪♪
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I wanted to hear
a little bit about Angie,
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what you could tell me
about her.
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She was my ‐‐
not only my baby,
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but she was
my only daughter.
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She really went through
some hard times
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when she was younger
because she was big for her age.
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Yeah, was she 5'11"?
Or 6 foot?
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Mm‐hmm, mm‐hmm.
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And so she was bullied,
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and so when she would see
other people being bullied
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or being messed with,
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she would get right
in the person's face
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and say,
"You leave him alone."
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♪♪
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Okay, we're gonna
turn right here, left.
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Man,
this is beautiful.
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Look at the light.
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I grew up out here.
You did?
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So you're a native.
Yes.
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My mom and dad
were really poor,
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and my mother raised five girls
with no bathroom.
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What?!
We had an outhouse.
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Oh, my.
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[ Both laugh ]
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So, is this her block?
Where she lived?
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Yes. Mm‐hmm.
Okay.
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Pratt: It's an older
neighborhood in Idaho Falls.
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It had...seen better days.
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♪♪
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Here, this was, you know,
the backyard,
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and there was
a chain‐link fence.
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Clark: Angie moved into
a converted apartment
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that was the second floor
of a house.
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And that's where she was
the night she was killed.
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Angie was at my house
that night
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until 20 minutes
after 10:00
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because she moved out
three weeks before.
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Only three weeks before?
And one of
the reasons why ‐‐
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because she disobeyed
a house rule.
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And I was so grateful
that she had come over
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'cause I hadn't seen her
for three weeks.
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Oh, that was
the first time ‐‐
That was the first time ‐‐
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Since she moved out?
[ Voice breaking ] Yes.
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Oh.
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And the night
that she came over,
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I rocked her
and I says,
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"I'm just so glad
you're not mad at me anymore."
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And she just looked up,
she said,
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"Not even
in a blue moon."
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And...next day,
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that's when they told me
that Angie had been found dead.
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♪♪
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The police gathered DNA
at the crime scene.
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The semen that we could see
clearly all over the victim.
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Skin cells
under her fingernails.
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Pratt: We found one hair
that was obviously different.
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We believe it was a pubic hair.
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Some blood sampling, obviously.
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The killer absolutely left
his calling card there.
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Jack:
This was my only daughter,
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and I hope you come forward
and make it easy on everyone.
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Squires:
Almost every person that they
brought in for an interview,
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they asked them for DNA.
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We're interviewing
all family members,
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associates, friends of hers.
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Up to now,
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we have collected
over 100 different DNA samples.
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There wasn't any matches.
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They spent months
trying to solve this case,
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and they're getting nowhere.
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And then a friend of hers
named Benjamin Hobbs
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was arrested in Nevada for
raping a woman at knifepoint.
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Much like
the similar circumstances
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that had happened
in Angie's murder.
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They began talking to a large
number of Ben Hobbs' friends...
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...including a guy
named Chris Tapp.
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Slowly over the course
of these interrogations,
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he winds up saying
that he was assisting...
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...and that he slashed
Angie's breast.
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And then the DNA results
come back.
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Neither Tapp nor Hobbs'
DNA profile
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matched the CODIS profile.
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♪♪
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But Chris Tapp
has confessed to the crime.
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So, in February of 1997,
Chris Tapp was charged
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with the rape and murder
of Angie Dodge.
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Guilty.
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[ Spectators murmuring ]
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The judge ultimately opted
against the death penalty.
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They gave him 30 years to life.
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But it was clear
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that somebody else must have
been involved in the murder.
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We still needed to find
that other person.
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But nothing happened.
Nothing came up.
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No evidence came forward.
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Moore:
Carol Dodge is not happy
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that her daughter's killer
has not been identified.
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♪♪
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So she decides she needs
to investigate it herself.
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Carol:
I literally went to the streets.
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I kept going back and forth.
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I'd go home 3:00, 4:00,
5:00 in the morning.
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I kept reading
all of the documents
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and the different reports
that I had accumulated.
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Moore:
The turning point comes
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when she decides
that she's going to get
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Chris Tapp's
interrogation tapes.
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And she starts watching
hours upon hours,
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looking for any clues
she can possibly find...
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...to track down
this mystery man
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that left the DNA at the scene
of her daughter's murder.
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♪♪
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And over time, she realizes that
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he really doesn't know much
about the crime.
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She comes to the conclusion
eventually
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that the detectives appear
to be feeding him information
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about what happened that night.
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Carol:
For 13 years, I believed
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that Chris Tapp was
part of my daughter's killing.
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So it took me
a long time
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after doing all the
investigation about Chris Tapp
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to say
Chris Tapp's not there.
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Moore:
So, in a major turn of events,
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Carol goes from wanting
the death penalty for Chris Tapp
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to believing
he should be exonerated.
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She becomes sort of an activist
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for the man
she thought killed her daughter.
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[ Applause ]
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Finally, in 2017, the prosecutor
decides to make a deal.
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After 20 years in prison,
Chris Tapp is free.
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‐Victory!
‐Victory!
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Moore: But he has
this murder conviction
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hanging over his head.
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The prosecutor refused
to expunge that from his record.
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And for the person
who did kill Angie Dodge,
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there's a bounty on your head.
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Squires:
As the years go by,
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it never stopped
being investigated.
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Around October of '17,
I took over the case.
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We were still trying to search
for whoever this person was.
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But we have taken
every street to the end,
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and there's nothing else
to follow up on.
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♪♪
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Moore:
Poor Carol had been trying
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to find her daughter's killer
for 22 years.
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There is one person
that killed my daughter.
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That's what
the DNA shows.
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So Carol is not
going to give up,
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and I want
to be the one to help her.
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[ Voice breaking ]
I just want to know.
254
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And I just know
she was so scared.
255
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I'm gonna
give you a hug.
256
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I'm sorry.
257
00:12:11,964 --> 00:12:13,866
I'm sorry
I keep making you cry.
258
00:12:13,866 --> 00:12:15,634
That's not
what I mean to do.
259
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I'm gonna do
everything I can
260
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to help
give you some answers.
261
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I just hope that I live
long enough to see the day.
262
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So we got to get busy.
263
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Yeah, right?
[ Laughs ]
264
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♪♪
265
00:12:31,984 --> 00:12:36,455
Alright, we're gonna talk about
the murder of Angie Dodge.
266
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Tom, have you been in touch
with the department
267
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about getting evidence?
268
00:12:39,358 --> 00:12:41,494
Yeah, so,
there is evidence.
269
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They did say
there's degradation.
270
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The 61%.
271
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Yeah, that's ‐‐
[ Sighs ]
272
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Working with DNA is like trying
to put a puzzle together.
273
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Say you have 100 pieces
in your puzzle.
274
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This was missing
39 of those pieces.
275
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Right at the margin
for what we would accept.
276
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We have a number system
that we use,
277
00:13:00,279 --> 00:13:02,548
and this case was a 4‐minus.
278
00:13:02,548 --> 00:13:05,618
That's like a D‐minus
in a grading system.
279
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Moore: Genetic genealogy
had never been done
280
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on crime‐scene DNA
of this degraded quality.
281
00:13:12,858 --> 00:13:15,194
But CeCe is very tenacious.
282
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Carol, Angie's mom,
writes to me almost every day.
283
00:13:18,097 --> 00:13:21,433
It'd be wonderful if
we could help her gain
justice on this case.
284
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So we uploaded it
to GEDMatch.
285
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And at that point,
I hand it off to CeCe.
286
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♪♪
287
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Moore: No cold‐case perpetrator
had been identified
288
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using such degraded DNA ‐‐ ever.
289
00:13:35,915 --> 00:13:38,951
But I wanted to give this a try.
290
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I found two matches who not only
shared DNA with the suspect,
291
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but shared DNA with each other.
292
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Genetic network #1.
293
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The top match was only
about 107 centimorgans.
294
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This might be
a second cousin once removed
295
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or a third cousin‐ish
with the suspect.
296
00:13:54,767 --> 00:13:56,835
But because we're missing
all of that DNA,
297
00:13:56,835 --> 00:13:59,672
I really couldn't predict what
those relationships would be.
298
00:13:59,672 --> 00:14:02,041
So I had to dig deeper
into that match list.
299
00:14:02,041 --> 00:14:03,542
I had three matches.
300
00:14:03,542 --> 00:14:04,810
57 centimorgans...
301
00:14:04,810 --> 00:14:06,145
32 centimorgans...
302
00:14:06,145 --> 00:14:07,546
26.6.
303
00:14:07,546 --> 00:14:10,683
It looked like fourth, maybe
fifth cousins and beyond ‐‐
304
00:14:10,683 --> 00:14:13,152
people who shared DNA
with the suspect
305
00:14:13,152 --> 00:14:15,788
but did not share DNA
with that first genetic network.
306
00:14:15,788 --> 00:14:17,256
My genetic network #2.
307
00:14:17,256 --> 00:14:20,459
They should have common
ancestors with the suspect
308
00:14:20,459 --> 00:14:23,362
somewhere in their family trees,
but because of the degraded DNA,
309
00:14:23,362 --> 00:14:27,967
I just didn't know how far back
the connection was going to be.
310
00:14:27,967 --> 00:14:30,769
But I like building
family trees,
311
00:14:30,769 --> 00:14:33,205
so that was not a problem.
312
00:14:33,205 --> 00:14:36,642
I'm using census records,
death records, marriage records,
313
00:14:36,642 --> 00:14:39,211
all the traditional
genealogical resources.
314
00:14:39,211 --> 00:14:42,448
And for genetic network #1,
315
00:14:42,448 --> 00:14:45,217
we're going back
to second great‐grandparents.
316
00:14:45,217 --> 00:14:48,587
Their common ancestors
with the suspect
317
00:14:48,587 --> 00:14:51,190
are Joseph Lathrom
and Orlena Gaither.
318
00:14:51,190 --> 00:14:53,325
And I may not be
pronouncing those right.
319
00:14:53,325 --> 00:14:54,727
Best I can do.
320
00:14:54,727 --> 00:14:58,097
Joseph also went by
the name Josephus.
321
00:14:58,097 --> 00:14:59,999
He was born 1856.
322
00:14:59,999 --> 00:15:03,636
Orlena was born 1875
in Missouri.
323
00:15:03,636 --> 00:15:06,472
In one of the census records,
he is a cashier.
324
00:15:06,472 --> 00:15:08,073
Orlena, of course,
is a housewife.
325
00:15:08,073 --> 00:15:11,076
There was a tornado in 1880,
a flood in 1885,
326
00:15:11,076 --> 00:15:13,178
and another tornado in 1888.
327
00:15:13,178 --> 00:15:15,381
Maybe that's why he decided
to become a cashier ‐‐
328
00:15:15,381 --> 00:15:18,951
because he wanted to get inside
from out in that weather.
329
00:15:18,951 --> 00:15:20,419
Do we have
the air conditioner on?
330
00:15:20,419 --> 00:15:23,055
[ Imitates choking ]
It's so hot!
331
00:15:23,055 --> 00:15:24,723
Lennart,
I'm so hot.
332
00:15:24,723 --> 00:15:28,394
When I'm hot, I am just not ‐‐
especially recently.
333
00:15:28,394 --> 00:15:32,398
I'm like
one year‐long hot flash.
334
00:15:32,398 --> 00:15:33,732
Right?
335
00:15:33,732 --> 00:15:35,100
[ Chuckles ]
336
00:15:35,100 --> 00:15:41,573
And for Genetic Network #2,
their common ancestors are
337
00:15:41,573 --> 00:15:48,380
Martin Van Buren Ussery
and Sarah Adeline Morrison ‐‐
338
00:15:48,380 --> 00:15:50,282
also second great‐grandparents.
339
00:15:50,282 --> 00:15:55,087
They were both born 1844,
also in Missouri.
340
00:15:55,087 --> 00:15:57,756
Now, Martin Van Buren,
that sounds familiar, right?
341
00:15:57,756 --> 00:15:59,558
Our eighth president.
342
00:15:59,558 --> 00:16:01,927
So, clearly,
his parents were big fans.
343
00:16:01,927 --> 00:16:05,931
Martin served on the Union side
in the Civil War.
344
00:16:05,931 --> 00:16:07,733
Fortunately,
he wasn't gone very long,
345
00:16:07,733 --> 00:16:10,569
because they still were able
to have 12 children.
346
00:16:10,569 --> 00:16:12,738
I'd say
they liked each other a lot.
347
00:16:12,738 --> 00:16:13,572
[ Laughter ]
348
00:16:13,572 --> 00:16:15,074
12 children was good for them.
349
00:16:15,074 --> 00:16:17,009
Not so good for me
350
00:16:17,009 --> 00:16:19,511
'cause I need
to follow those children
351
00:16:19,511 --> 00:16:22,247
forward in time
to try to find the suspect.
352
00:16:22,247 --> 00:16:25,718
Who are the descendants of
each of these common ancestors?
353
00:16:25,718 --> 00:16:27,486
Where did they come together?
354
00:16:27,486 --> 00:16:31,223
After hours and hours and hours
of tree building,
355
00:16:31,223 --> 00:16:35,994
it leads to this one marriage ‐‐
Clarence and Cleo Ussery.
356
00:16:35,994 --> 00:16:37,296
Ah.
357
00:16:37,296 --> 00:16:40,065
The suspect has to be
a descendant of this couple
358
00:16:40,065 --> 00:16:42,401
'cause we need
that ancestral mix.
359
00:16:42,401 --> 00:16:45,671
They got married
in December 1916.
360
00:16:45,671 --> 00:16:50,008
We have to build forward, try to
find somebody of the right age,
361
00:16:50,008 --> 00:16:51,677
of course the right gender,
362
00:16:51,677 --> 00:16:54,213
and hopefully
somewhere near Idaho Falls
363
00:16:54,213 --> 00:16:55,814
that could be our suspect.
364
00:16:55,814 --> 00:16:59,485
Fortunately, this family has
really good obituaries.
365
00:16:59,485 --> 00:17:03,389
However,
because of the degraded DNA,
366
00:17:03,389 --> 00:17:06,258
I'm not sure
if it's one of their grandsons
367
00:17:06,258 --> 00:17:07,926
or their great‐grandsons,
368
00:17:07,926 --> 00:17:10,295
but they have
six male descendants
369
00:17:10,295 --> 00:17:13,565
over two generations
that could be Angie's killer.
370
00:17:13,565 --> 00:17:19,037
Five of the six males lived
over 1,000 miles away.
371
00:17:19,037 --> 00:17:23,509
But one of them lived in Idaho.
372
00:17:23,509 --> 00:17:28,013
He was the only one who came
anywhere near Idaho Falls.
373
00:17:29,948 --> 00:17:32,885
But I communicated
all six of these names
374
00:17:32,885 --> 00:17:35,788
back to the Idaho Falls
Police Department.
375
00:17:37,055 --> 00:17:41,727
As you know,
we took the crime‐scene DNA,
376
00:17:41,727 --> 00:17:43,228
and I was able
to narrow it down
377
00:17:43,228 --> 00:17:45,564
to six possible suspects
for you.
378
00:17:45,564 --> 00:17:47,065
Now, many of my cases,
379
00:17:47,065 --> 00:17:50,369
I can provide one name
or two brothers,
380
00:17:50,369 --> 00:17:52,171
but I'd say six is ‐‐
381
00:17:52,171 --> 00:17:53,372
Squires:
Pretty good.
382
00:17:53,372 --> 00:17:57,042
Pretty good.
‐Six is pretty good.
383
00:17:57,042 --> 00:17:59,144
Can I ask you something?
Yeah. Please do.
384
00:17:59,144 --> 00:18:01,346
How would you get
that familial information
385
00:18:01,346 --> 00:18:02,581
for the descendants?
386
00:18:02,581 --> 00:18:04,850
That's a great question.
Just genealogical information?
387
00:18:04,850 --> 00:18:08,253
I was able to find obituaries
for this family.
388
00:18:08,253 --> 00:18:10,956
It was not only
the first big lead,
389
00:18:10,956 --> 00:18:12,524
but really,
just about the only lead.
390
00:18:12,524 --> 00:18:15,427
Now, this fifth son
is most interesting to me
391
00:18:15,427 --> 00:18:16,929
because they moved
to Idaho.
392
00:18:16,929 --> 00:18:17,963
Wow.
393
00:18:17,963 --> 00:18:19,665
Even though
it wasn't Idaho Falls,
394
00:18:19,665 --> 00:18:22,568
it was a lot closer
than everybody else was.
395
00:18:22,568 --> 00:18:23,969
That's great.
396
00:18:23,969 --> 00:18:25,904
See? You are a detective.
See? You are a detective.
397
00:18:25,904 --> 00:18:29,341
♪♪
398
00:18:29,341 --> 00:18:32,044
It was incredible.
It was incredible.
399
00:18:32,044 --> 00:18:33,679
She was the key
to making it happen.
400
00:18:33,679 --> 00:18:36,915
That just puts the onus for us
to do our job.
401
00:18:36,915 --> 00:18:39,685
We're not just going off of
the information we get from you.
402
00:18:39,685 --> 00:18:42,254
We're going to have to do
the rest of the investigation
403
00:18:42,254 --> 00:18:44,723
to determine that that person
was actually involved.
404
00:18:44,723 --> 00:18:50,195
Moore: So that means
you all have a job to do.
405
00:18:50,195 --> 00:18:51,730
[ Laughter ]
406
00:18:51,730 --> 00:18:53,365
You always have a job to do,
but you really have a job to do.
407
00:18:53,365 --> 00:18:54,933
Okay, I'm back to eyes
on the trooper.
408
00:18:54,933 --> 00:18:56,401
Man: Aw [bleep]
We just lost visual on him.
409
00:18:56,401 --> 00:18:58,203
We're trying to catch him.
Is that him right there?
410
00:18:58,203 --> 00:19:00,305
And you guys are gonna
have to work for this one.
411
00:19:00,305 --> 00:19:01,173
♪♪
412
00:19:04,176 --> 00:19:08,313
♪♪
413
00:19:08,313 --> 00:19:10,415
Sage: I think everybody knows
why we're here.
414
00:19:10,415 --> 00:19:12,317
We're gonna try
to get a DNA sample
415
00:19:12,317 --> 00:19:16,054
from a possible contributor
that Cece has identified
416
00:19:16,054 --> 00:19:18,757
of our unknown DNA found
at the Angie Dodge homicide.
417
00:19:18,757 --> 00:19:21,660
He lives in the area,
he has the right surname,
418
00:19:21,660 --> 00:19:23,862
the right, I guess,
autosomal DNA.
419
00:19:23,862 --> 00:19:25,697
[ Chuckling ] That's very good.
Very good.
420
00:19:25,697 --> 00:19:26,865
[ Laughter ]
421
00:19:26,865 --> 00:19:29,935
Everybody's just like, "Whoa!"
Sorry, buddy.
422
00:19:29,935 --> 00:19:31,336
I hate you guys.
423
00:19:31,336 --> 00:19:33,105
[ Laughter ]
424
00:19:33,105 --> 00:19:35,641
So, one thing
that's beneficial for us
425
00:19:35,641 --> 00:19:38,810
is he's got two sons who will
share a lot of his same DNA,
426
00:19:38,810 --> 00:19:41,813
and according to CeCe, even if
we can get a sample from them,
427
00:19:41,813 --> 00:19:45,317
that'll help us to narrow down
who our likely suspect is ‐‐
428
00:19:45,317 --> 00:19:47,085
if it's a cousin, an uncle,
429
00:19:47,085 --> 00:19:50,422
or if it's in a different line
of their family tree.
430
00:19:50,422 --> 00:19:52,824
I mean,
this is the first step
431
00:19:52,824 --> 00:19:54,993
in what's gonna eventually
help us catch this guy.
432
00:19:54,993 --> 00:19:56,495
I know ‐‐
it's the kind of thing
433
00:19:56,495 --> 00:19:58,196
that's been giving me
goose bumps for months,
434
00:19:58,196 --> 00:20:01,266
and I'm excited about it,
so I hope you guys all are, too.
435
00:20:01,266 --> 00:20:03,869
Get some gloves, get some swabs,
get some evidence bags.
436
00:20:03,869 --> 00:20:05,237
Man:
Good job, Sage!
437
00:20:05,237 --> 00:20:06,772
Autosomal.
[ Laughter ]
438
00:20:06,772 --> 00:20:11,043
Autosomal,
autosomal, autosomal!
439
00:20:11,043 --> 00:20:19,585
♪♪
440
00:20:19,585 --> 00:20:22,821
The person
that CeCe had identified
441
00:20:22,821 --> 00:20:26,191
lives about 2 1/2 hours away
from where we are.
442
00:20:26,191 --> 00:20:28,527
Moore: This potential
person of interest
443
00:20:28,527 --> 00:20:32,397
was a family man,
living out in a rural area.
444
00:20:32,397 --> 00:20:34,366
He didn't seem like
the type of person
445
00:20:34,366 --> 00:20:36,234
that would do something
like this,
446
00:20:36,234 --> 00:20:38,737
but I've learned in my work
you can't always tell
447
00:20:38,737 --> 00:20:41,173
who is capable of such violence.
448
00:20:42,674 --> 00:20:45,978
Genetic genealogy is a
lead generator, and that's all.
449
00:20:45,978 --> 00:20:49,047
Any information that
I am providing to the detectives
450
00:20:49,047 --> 00:20:50,349
is simply a tip.
451
00:20:50,349 --> 00:20:54,987
So, we're just gonna, hopefully,
find some piece of DNA
452
00:20:54,987 --> 00:20:56,121
that he discards,
453
00:20:56,121 --> 00:20:58,624
whether blowing his nose,
drinking a soda.
454
00:20:58,624 --> 00:21:01,727
Moore: They have to build
that traditional case
455
00:21:01,727 --> 00:21:03,495
and collect that DNA sample
456
00:21:03,495 --> 00:21:05,998
to compare
to their crime‐scene DNA.
457
00:21:05,998 --> 00:21:07,699
Spencer: There could be
DNA here that...
458
00:21:07,699 --> 00:21:09,801
Squires:
We had made contact with
459
00:21:09,801 --> 00:21:12,204
their local investigators
in that area.
460
00:21:12,204 --> 00:21:14,673
And we put a plan together
461
00:21:14,673 --> 00:21:17,342
between six and eight
of our own detectives.
462
00:21:17,342 --> 00:21:19,845
Was mainly farm country.
463
00:21:19,845 --> 00:21:23,181
Mulden: Doesn't look like
there's a really good spot
464
00:21:23,181 --> 00:21:25,917
to actually
watch the house itself.
465
00:21:25,917 --> 00:21:27,452
We're gonna have
to find out something ‐‐
466
00:21:28,954 --> 00:21:31,056
Hey, Bill, I'm gonna take
a parallel road.
467
00:21:31,056 --> 00:21:33,392
♪♪
468
00:21:33,392 --> 00:21:35,494
Squires: And so, to have
surveillance vehicles around
469
00:21:35,494 --> 00:21:37,696
just stuck out
like a sore thumb.
470
00:21:37,696 --> 00:21:40,399
♪♪
471
00:21:42,668 --> 00:21:44,336
The first day ‐‐
472
00:21:44,336 --> 00:21:47,239
and it was a long day,
a 12‐ or 14‐hour day...
473
00:21:47,239 --> 00:21:48,440
[ Engine starts ]
474
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,443
...and we weren't able
to actually get a sample.
475
00:21:51,443 --> 00:21:53,311
If we can get
the father's sample,
476
00:21:53,311 --> 00:21:54,713
that would be fantastic,
477
00:21:54,713 --> 00:21:57,683
but if it's too difficult,
perhaps we can get the son.
478
00:21:57,683 --> 00:21:59,718
♪♪
479
00:21:59,718 --> 00:22:01,687
We split half of the team
on the son
480
00:22:01,687 --> 00:22:03,422
and half of the team
on the father just in case
481
00:22:03,422 --> 00:22:05,190
'cause we didn't want
to miss an opportunity.
482
00:22:05,190 --> 00:22:07,225
Mulden:
This is the target vehicle.
483
00:22:07,225 --> 00:22:08,960
We'll keep an eye on him.
484
00:22:15,267 --> 00:22:16,601
♪♪
485
00:22:16,601 --> 00:22:19,137
Hey, John, we just got back
into the parking lot.
486
00:22:19,137 --> 00:22:21,206
We actually have good eyes
on the car.
487
00:22:21,206 --> 00:22:26,445
♪♪
488
00:22:26,445 --> 00:22:27,579
His son...
489
00:22:29,381 --> 00:22:31,416
Man: Copy this.
We got eyes on him.
490
00:22:31,416 --> 00:22:33,418
...ended up going into
a local bank there.
491
00:22:33,418 --> 00:22:37,055
♪♪
492
00:22:37,055 --> 00:22:39,424
So, the farmer blow
is right there.
493
00:22:39,424 --> 00:22:40,959
He came
out of the bank
494
00:22:40,959 --> 00:22:44,596
and spit a couple of wads
of chew here on the ground.
495
00:22:44,596 --> 00:22:46,598
You got it.
496
00:22:49,134 --> 00:22:50,936
We continued
to surveil the father.
497
00:22:50,936 --> 00:22:52,738
Man: Stay with him
as best you can.
498
00:23:01,980 --> 00:23:04,716
♪♪
499
00:23:10,756 --> 00:23:13,325
Tisdale:
I love my wife, but you are now
a close second, sir.
500
00:23:13,325 --> 00:23:15,260
[ Laughs ] Thank him.
He did all the dirty work.
501
00:23:15,260 --> 00:23:16,428
Oh, my gosh.
Here's sample 1.
502
00:23:16,428 --> 00:23:17,829
Beautiful.
Here's sample 2.
503
00:23:17,829 --> 00:23:20,632
Well, Bill, you're the proud
new owner of two spit tubes.
504
00:23:20,632 --> 00:23:22,467
[ Laughs ]
505
00:23:22,467 --> 00:23:24,002
That was awesome,
dude!
506
00:23:24,002 --> 00:23:26,338
You know how
I'm gonna pay you back?
507
00:23:26,338 --> 00:23:27,572
Ooh!
Dinner.
508
00:23:27,572 --> 00:23:29,074
Dinner's on me.
Ooh!
509
00:23:29,074 --> 00:23:31,443
DQ or Taco Bell ‐‐
it's your call.
510
00:23:31,443 --> 00:23:35,380
♪♪
511
00:23:40,619 --> 00:23:42,687
Moore:
So, I'm really excited
512
00:23:42,687 --> 00:23:45,457
that they've been successful
in getting this DNA.
513
00:23:45,457 --> 00:23:47,058
I was still on pins and needles
514
00:23:47,058 --> 00:23:49,127
waiting for those results
to come in.
515
00:23:49,127 --> 00:23:52,631
The genetic genealogy had led
to just these six cousins.
516
00:23:53,665 --> 00:23:58,069
But when the results
came back...
517
00:23:58,069 --> 00:24:00,472
it seemed to eliminate
all of them.
518
00:24:00,472 --> 00:24:02,474
♪♪
519
00:24:02,474 --> 00:24:06,611
It was a total shock.
520
00:24:06,611 --> 00:24:08,079
I just...
521
00:24:08,079 --> 00:24:10,982
I just couldn't figure out
what had gone wrong.
522
00:24:10,982 --> 00:24:15,620
♪♪
523
00:24:15,620 --> 00:24:19,624
Squires:
I really thought that we might
be at a dead end right there.
524
00:24:19,624 --> 00:24:21,693
So it was really depressing.
525
00:24:23,495 --> 00:24:25,831
Moore: Never before
had genetic genealogy
526
00:24:25,831 --> 00:24:27,732
given me the wrong answer.
527
00:24:29,901 --> 00:24:32,671
And I think the thing
that I was most afraid of
528
00:24:32,671 --> 00:24:35,574
was failing Carol
529
00:24:35,574 --> 00:24:39,578
and having to tell her
that I couldn't identify him.
530
00:24:39,578 --> 00:24:40,045
♪♪
531
00:24:43,048 --> 00:24:46,451
♪♪
532
00:24:46,451 --> 00:24:49,788
So, my tree that I like to
sit in and read was just there.
533
00:24:49,788 --> 00:24:51,089
Back there?
Yep.
534
00:24:51,089 --> 00:24:54,159
Moore: It's very hard for me
to step away from a case,
535
00:24:54,159 --> 00:24:56,394
but I really was
kind of at a dead end.
536
00:24:56,394 --> 00:24:58,430
I didn't know what else to do.
537
00:24:58,430 --> 00:25:00,799
There were times
where I was very doubtful
538
00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:03,201
we would be able
to do anything with this.
539
00:25:03,201 --> 00:25:05,937
It was incredibly discouraging.
540
00:25:05,937 --> 00:25:08,874
But it was nice
to come back home.
541
00:25:08,874 --> 00:25:11,910
See, that was
my parents' room right there.
542
00:25:11,910 --> 00:25:14,246
In the past, I was definitely
543
00:25:14,246 --> 00:25:18,149
not thinking about murders
or rapes,
544
00:25:18,149 --> 00:25:21,786
but ever since I started
working with law enforcement,
545
00:25:21,786 --> 00:25:23,855
I'm faced with incredible evil.
546
00:25:23,855 --> 00:25:26,258
And once you meet the family,
547
00:25:26,258 --> 00:25:30,962
I think it's impossible to deny
how much these cases mean.
548
00:25:30,962 --> 00:25:35,166
Like the Dodge case,
I think a lot about
549
00:25:35,166 --> 00:25:39,871
what it would have been like to
have something like that happen
550
00:25:39,871 --> 00:25:42,674
here in Westwood,
Rancho Bernardo.
551
00:25:42,674 --> 00:25:44,809
Everything would have changed.
552
00:25:44,809 --> 00:25:46,244
♪♪
553
00:25:46,244 --> 00:25:47,412
Welcome to The Mount.
554
00:25:47,412 --> 00:25:49,147
The Mount.
555
00:25:49,147 --> 00:25:52,183
By chance, my high school
recently created a hall of fame
556
00:25:52,183 --> 00:25:56,388
and decided to induct me
as one of the first people.
557
00:25:56,388 --> 00:25:59,557
My work with genetic genealogy
558
00:25:59,557 --> 00:26:02,394
was absolutely
borne of a passion.
559
00:26:02,394 --> 00:26:05,430
It was never intended
to be a career.
560
00:26:05,430 --> 00:26:07,899
Okay, this is great.
Everybody looking right here.
561
00:26:07,899 --> 00:26:11,069
I didn't find this
until I was in my 40s.
562
00:26:11,069 --> 00:26:13,571
So many of us women feel like
563
00:26:13,571 --> 00:26:16,841
we're kind of forgotten
at that point.
564
00:26:16,841 --> 00:26:19,311
Being able to return...
565
00:26:19,311 --> 00:26:20,946
Thanks for being here.
566
00:26:20,946 --> 00:26:23,014
My pleasure
and my honor.
567
00:26:23,014 --> 00:26:27,986
...to receive this award
really validated
568
00:26:27,986 --> 00:26:30,789
that I had made
the right choices after all,
569
00:26:30,789 --> 00:26:33,325
because I really
believe strongly
570
00:26:33,325 --> 00:26:38,596
that a big part of my success
is the unwillingness to give up.
571
00:26:40,799 --> 00:26:42,467
So I decided that
572
00:26:42,467 --> 00:26:48,039
even when the odds
looked to be stacked against me,
573
00:26:48,039 --> 00:26:50,742
I was not going to give up.
574
00:26:50,742 --> 00:26:53,244
I could not fail Carol.
575
00:26:53,244 --> 00:26:56,915
Carol demanded answers,
deserved answers,
576
00:26:56,915 --> 00:27:00,618
and I knew I had to find a way
to get them for her.
577
00:27:00,618 --> 00:27:02,487
I had to figure out
what had gone wrong.
578
00:27:02,487 --> 00:27:04,823
Because it had to be
a descendant
579
00:27:04,823 --> 00:27:06,658
of Clarence and Cleo Ussery.
580
00:27:06,658 --> 00:27:09,427
Now, because of
my unknown parentage work,
581
00:27:09,427 --> 00:27:12,297
I'm always aware
that there's a possibility
582
00:27:12,297 --> 00:27:14,132
there's someone
that just doesn't show up
583
00:27:14,132 --> 00:27:15,166
in the written records.
584
00:27:15,166 --> 00:27:17,068
Was there a missing descendant
585
00:27:17,068 --> 00:27:18,837
that was hidden
in the tree somehow?
586
00:27:18,837 --> 00:27:21,740
I harkened back
to my earlier research
587
00:27:21,740 --> 00:27:24,776
where one of the grandsons
had an early marriage.
588
00:27:24,776 --> 00:27:27,479
He was really young,
his wife even younger.
589
00:27:27,479 --> 00:27:28,513
She was 16.
590
00:27:28,513 --> 00:27:29,981
And I was really surprised
591
00:27:29,981 --> 00:27:32,417
not to find any children
from that marriage
592
00:27:32,417 --> 00:27:33,885
'cause most people
don't get married that young
593
00:27:33,885 --> 00:27:35,253
for no reason.
594
00:27:35,253 --> 00:27:38,423
The problem was, there had
also been an early divorce.
595
00:27:40,025 --> 00:27:41,960
I just couldn't find her.
596
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,963
Clearly, she had remarried,
'cause she just disappeared.
597
00:27:44,963 --> 00:27:46,865
So I decided
to look at her parents,
598
00:27:46,865 --> 00:27:50,902
and my hope was that her mother
would have an obituary
599
00:27:50,902 --> 00:27:53,705
that would name the daughter,
and if she had any children,
600
00:27:53,705 --> 00:27:55,306
that they might be mentioned,
as well.
601
00:27:55,306 --> 00:27:57,842
But not everything is digitized.
602
00:27:57,842 --> 00:28:01,846
And so, my right‐hand
genetic genealogist researcher
603
00:28:01,846 --> 00:28:03,415
called the local librarian
604
00:28:03,415 --> 00:28:05,383
in that very small town
in Missouri,
605
00:28:05,383 --> 00:28:06,785
and I got it.
606
00:28:06,785 --> 00:28:09,721
Not only does it name
the daughter,
607
00:28:09,721 --> 00:28:11,423
but it names her son.
608
00:28:11,423 --> 00:28:14,626
He was born
during that early marriage,
609
00:28:14,626 --> 00:28:16,828
but he was carrying
his stepfather's surname.
610
00:28:16,828 --> 00:28:18,897
He was the right age.
611
00:28:18,897 --> 00:28:23,234
And in 1996,
guess where he was living.
612
00:28:23,234 --> 00:28:24,969
Idaho Falls.
613
00:28:26,738 --> 00:28:29,741
Not just Idaho, but Idaho Falls.
614
00:28:29,741 --> 00:28:32,477
That was huge.
615
00:28:32,477 --> 00:28:35,947
I wanted to get this name
to them as quickly as I could.
616
00:28:37,849 --> 00:28:39,851
Hey, everyone.
How are you guys doing?
617
00:28:39,851 --> 00:28:41,019
We're scared.
618
00:28:41,019 --> 00:28:43,588
We're apprehensive about
what we're gonna hear.
619
00:28:43,588 --> 00:28:47,258
So, I guess we can go over it
on my screen.
620
00:28:47,258 --> 00:28:49,561
Squires:
She begins to lay out
621
00:28:49,561 --> 00:28:51,596
all of the work
that she had done on the report.
622
00:28:51,596 --> 00:28:54,265
And that makes them much less
likely to be the subject.
623
00:28:54,265 --> 00:28:56,101
...they only share...
...centimorgans...
624
00:28:56,101 --> 00:28:57,869
...definitely not
what we expect.
625
00:28:57,869 --> 00:28:59,003
...major problem for us...
626
00:28:59,003 --> 00:29:00,772
Squires:
I'm really expecting bad news.
627
00:29:00,772 --> 00:29:03,308
So we're kind of sitting there
listening to this going,
628
00:29:03,308 --> 00:29:04,275
"When is it coming?"
629
00:29:04,275 --> 00:29:05,610
...and we might never find them.
630
00:29:05,610 --> 00:29:07,412
She just kept us
on the edge of our seat.
631
00:29:07,412 --> 00:29:08,780
It was excruciating.
632
00:29:08,780 --> 00:29:11,182
And...
633
00:29:11,182 --> 00:29:12,484
[ Laughs ]
634
00:29:12,484 --> 00:29:15,587
You're really adding
a lot of drama for us on this.
635
00:29:15,587 --> 00:29:17,122
I'm not adding it.
636
00:29:17,122 --> 00:29:18,890
I'm feeling it.
637
00:29:18,890 --> 00:29:21,226
We've got him. [ Chuckles ]
638
00:29:21,226 --> 00:29:23,094
Are you serious?
639
00:29:23,094 --> 00:29:24,762
I'm serious.
640
00:29:24,762 --> 00:29:26,297
[ Chuckles ]
641
00:29:26,297 --> 00:29:27,832
[ Sighs ]
642
00:29:29,534 --> 00:29:31,536
[ Sniffles ]
643
00:29:31,536 --> 00:29:34,272
Our jaws about dropped.
644
00:29:34,272 --> 00:29:36,841
It was incredible.
645
00:29:36,841 --> 00:29:39,911
Now, we don't take anything
for granted at this point,
646
00:29:39,911 --> 00:29:43,982
and we have to confirm
all this information.
647
00:29:43,982 --> 00:29:48,319
But to have a lead like that
after 23, 24 years,
648
00:29:48,319 --> 00:29:50,555
"huge" is probably
an understatement.
649
00:29:50,555 --> 00:29:52,056
♪♪
650
00:29:52,056 --> 00:29:53,758
Moore:
His name was Brian Dripps.
651
00:29:53,758 --> 00:29:56,528
Squires:
Brian L. Dripps.
652
00:29:56,528 --> 00:30:01,132
Moore: At the time of the crime,
he was 30 years old.
653
00:30:01,132 --> 00:30:04,269
It was just a few days
before his 31st birthday.
654
00:30:04,269 --> 00:30:06,471
He was going through a divorce.
655
00:30:06,471 --> 00:30:09,274
He had a child being born.
656
00:30:09,274 --> 00:30:12,143
Dripps had only had
some minor issues.
657
00:30:12,143 --> 00:30:14,245
There was a couple
of misdemeanors on his record.
658
00:30:14,245 --> 00:30:16,814
Through our investigation,
we find out
659
00:30:16,814 --> 00:30:20,118
that he actually
was in Idaho Falls at the time.
660
00:30:20,118 --> 00:30:23,755
Moore:
Not just in Idaho Falls,
661
00:30:23,755 --> 00:30:26,057
but right across the street
from her house.
662
00:30:26,057 --> 00:30:27,859
♪♪
663
00:30:32,697 --> 00:30:36,167
Squires:
It is 0620 in the morning,
664
00:30:36,167 --> 00:30:39,003
and we are in Caldwell, Idaho.
665
00:30:39,003 --> 00:30:42,440
We're gonna go set up on our
person of interest's house here.
666
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,475
We don't know anything
about where he works,
667
00:30:44,475 --> 00:30:45,810
so wherever he goes,
668
00:30:45,810 --> 00:30:48,613
we can tail him and try
to figure out what he does.
669
00:30:48,613 --> 00:30:50,481
He's at the end of this street
on our left.
670
00:30:50,481 --> 00:30:52,450
♪♪
671
00:30:52,450 --> 00:30:53,851
I just did the drive by.
672
00:30:57,021 --> 00:30:58,323
That's good news.
673
00:30:58,323 --> 00:31:01,526
♪♪
674
00:31:03,861 --> 00:31:06,864
Alright, so, this is
where his house is.
675
00:31:06,864 --> 00:31:10,201
So, we've got a guy down here
watching this intersection,
676
00:31:10,201 --> 00:31:12,103
we're up here watching this,
677
00:31:12,103 --> 00:31:15,106
and then we've got a guy
down here, north.
678
00:31:15,106 --> 00:31:17,909
♪♪
679
00:31:22,614 --> 00:31:25,583
Yeah, we're not ‐‐
[ Clears throat ]
680
00:31:25,583 --> 00:31:27,785
I mean, it's something we got to
keep in the back of our mind,
681
00:31:27,785 --> 00:31:31,155
in that, you know,
this is a murder investigation,
682
00:31:31,155 --> 00:31:32,790
so if he gets desperate,
683
00:31:32,790 --> 00:31:34,792
then you never know
what could happen here.
684
00:31:34,792 --> 00:31:37,695
We got to be careful.
685
00:31:37,695 --> 00:31:40,064
He was a concealed weapon
permit holder,
686
00:31:40,064 --> 00:31:42,400
so we didn't want someone
getting shot.
687
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,970
♪♪
688
00:31:45,970 --> 00:31:47,772
Albright:
It's just a waiting game now.
689
00:31:47,772 --> 00:31:51,075
We could be sitting here
for 2 minutes up to 12 hours.
690
00:31:51,075 --> 00:31:54,078
♪♪
691
00:31:54,078 --> 00:31:56,581
This is torturous.
692
00:31:56,581 --> 00:31:58,082
♪♪
693
00:31:58,082 --> 00:32:01,185
Just watching one intersection
for one car.
694
00:32:01,185 --> 00:32:02,720
Then you start thinking
to yourself, like,
695
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,723
how often do I leave my house
if it's my day off?
696
00:32:05,723 --> 00:32:09,427
♪♪
697
00:32:09,427 --> 00:32:15,033
We've been going for
5 1/2, almost 6 hours.
698
00:32:15,033 --> 00:32:17,101
Just waiting.
699
00:32:22,807 --> 00:32:25,476
♪♪
700
00:32:25,476 --> 00:32:28,513
Tisdale:
Cigarette is in hand.
701
00:32:28,513 --> 00:32:31,249
Man, this is it.
This could be great.
702
00:32:34,686 --> 00:32:39,057
So, our subject is
a couple cars ahead of us.
703
00:32:40,658 --> 00:32:42,794
We've got a UC guy
right behind him.
704
00:32:44,395 --> 00:32:45,663
He's got eyes on him,
705
00:32:45,663 --> 00:32:48,333
and those cigarette butts
are like DNA traps.
706
00:32:48,333 --> 00:32:50,868
They'd be perfect
for collecting a sample.
707
00:32:53,338 --> 00:32:56,908
[ Engine revs ]
708
00:32:56,908 --> 00:32:59,077
I think I'm behind Sage.
709
00:33:01,512 --> 00:33:03,981
Affirm.
I'm right behind Spencer.
710
00:33:08,019 --> 00:33:10,621
It's still smoking.
711
00:33:10,621 --> 00:33:13,124
Squires:
Oh, my gosh, don't get out!
712
00:33:13,124 --> 00:33:14,726
Still smoldering.
713
00:33:14,726 --> 00:33:16,594
♪♪
714
00:33:18,029 --> 00:33:21,299
[ Laughing ] Oh!
715
00:33:21,299 --> 00:33:23,668
He just flipped it out.
Spencer's got it.
716
00:33:23,668 --> 00:33:26,537
That could have just been our
Huckleberry right there, guys.
717
00:33:26,537 --> 00:33:28,072
Yeah!
718
00:33:28,072 --> 00:33:29,107
That's awesome.
719
00:33:29,107 --> 00:33:30,708
It's right there.
720
00:33:30,708 --> 00:33:32,143
[ Laughter ]
721
00:33:32,143 --> 00:33:34,445
Hey, we're not done yet.
Let's get to the lab.
722
00:33:34,445 --> 00:33:35,546
Let's get to the lab.
723
00:33:35,546 --> 00:33:36,681
Saddle up.
724
00:33:37,682 --> 00:33:39,650
Hello.
Is this CeCe?
Yes, it is.
725
00:33:39,650 --> 00:33:42,553
We were able
to get a cigarette butt.
726
00:33:42,553 --> 00:33:44,055
It was still smoking
when we picked it up.
727
00:33:44,055 --> 00:33:45,423
Good work! [ Laughs ]
728
00:33:45,423 --> 00:33:47,525
Albright:
Hey, Cindy.
729
00:33:47,525 --> 00:33:50,027
Cindy:
Hi. How are you?
Very well, thank you.
730
00:33:50,027 --> 00:33:52,497
What do you think our turnaround
could be on this sample?
731
00:33:52,497 --> 00:33:54,232
If everything
goes smoothly,
732
00:33:54,232 --> 00:33:56,200
I should have a result
by Sunday.
733
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,235
Oh, great.
Yeah.
734
00:33:57,235 --> 00:33:58,736
Whoo‐hoo! [ Chuckles ]
735
00:33:58,736 --> 00:34:00,905
If it's not a match, I give up.
736
00:34:00,905 --> 00:34:01,939
[ Laughs ]
737
00:34:01,939 --> 00:34:05,109
♪♪
738
00:34:05,109 --> 00:34:08,246
Squires: The next day, I'm out
on my lawn mower on Saturday,
739
00:34:08,246 --> 00:34:10,014
trying to get my yard mowed.
740
00:34:10,014 --> 00:34:12,116
Lieutenant Tisdale calls me,
and I know
741
00:34:12,116 --> 00:34:16,020
he would only be calling me
about this at this time, and...
742
00:34:16,020 --> 00:34:17,789
You're probably ready
for some results?
743
00:34:17,789 --> 00:34:19,023
I am!
744
00:34:19,023 --> 00:34:21,826
Well, I think before we get
to that, we should go back
745
00:34:21,826 --> 00:34:24,529
and talk about some things
in more detail, you know?
746
00:34:24,529 --> 00:34:26,564
[ Laughs ]
747
00:34:26,564 --> 00:34:28,266
Yeah, thanks.
Thanks, Captain.
748
00:34:28,266 --> 00:34:29,400
[ Laughter ]
749
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,068
I get
what you're doing.
750
00:34:31,068 --> 00:34:36,240
So, our guy,
Brian L. Dripps, is...
751
00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:39,877
the match
to the crime‐scene semen.
752
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:43,548
Moore:
It was a huge relief.
753
00:34:43,548 --> 00:34:45,116
We've got our match.
754
00:34:46,284 --> 00:34:47,585
Squires: It was huge.
755
00:34:47,585 --> 00:34:50,988
That's probably where it set in
the most with me.
756
00:34:50,988 --> 00:34:52,990
"Man, this is the guy.
757
00:34:52,990 --> 00:34:56,093
This is the guy we've been
looking for for 23 years."
758
00:34:56,093 --> 00:34:58,296
Moore:
So, how does it feel, guys?
759
00:34:58,296 --> 00:35:00,097
[ Chuckles ]
Unbelievable.
760
00:35:00,097 --> 00:35:03,234
And now we're in
game face mode,
761
00:35:03,234 --> 00:35:04,702
figuring out
what we need to do
762
00:35:04,702 --> 00:35:06,304
for the rest
of the investigation.
763
00:35:06,304 --> 00:35:07,839
♪♪
764
00:35:07,839 --> 00:35:11,008
My work's done,
and your work is just starting.
765
00:35:12,176 --> 00:35:14,312
This is not just a regular case.
766
00:35:14,312 --> 00:35:15,780
It's woven in the fabric
767
00:35:15,780 --> 00:35:18,616
of every IFPD guy's career
that's here.
768
00:35:18,616 --> 00:35:21,652
Hell yeah, guys.
Let's do this.
769
00:35:21,652 --> 00:35:22,887
Let's go catch a murderer.
770
00:35:22,887 --> 00:35:29,293
♪♪
771
00:35:29,293 --> 00:35:31,596
This is the street
he'll be coming out on.
772
00:35:31,596 --> 00:35:34,799
Our plan was that we set up in
very similar surveillance spots
773
00:35:34,799 --> 00:35:35,967
that we were before.
774
00:35:40,238 --> 00:35:42,607
Sweet. Geez.
775
00:35:42,607 --> 00:35:45,776
And sure enough,
right about noon,
776
00:35:45,776 --> 00:35:47,745
gets in his red truck.
777
00:35:47,745 --> 00:35:49,080
There he is.
778
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,383
Alright, I've got him.
Stand by.
779
00:35:56,954 --> 00:35:59,257
He takes
kind of a roundabout course...
780
00:35:59,257 --> 00:36:01,192
Yeah, it's kind of conspicuous,
guys. Watch out.
781
00:36:01,192 --> 00:36:03,494
...into the city.
782
00:36:03,494 --> 00:36:05,162
There's a bank.
There he is.
783
00:36:06,731 --> 00:36:09,333
Yeah, just pulled into a parking
spot, Idaho Central Bank.
784
00:36:09,333 --> 00:36:10,401
I'm thinking we should...
785
00:36:18,676 --> 00:36:21,512
We got our two guys on foot
going in now.
786
00:36:21,512 --> 00:36:23,915
We're gonna stay outside,
and our guys are gonna contact
787
00:36:23,915 --> 00:36:25,216
when he comes out of the bank.
788
00:36:25,216 --> 00:36:27,618
♪♪
789
00:36:27,618 --> 00:36:30,421
I can see Brandon in there
on the phone.
790
00:36:32,690 --> 00:36:33,424
Man: 10‐4.
791
00:36:37,261 --> 00:36:38,663
Here he comes.
792
00:36:44,902 --> 00:36:46,470
Squires:
He's in the bank.
793
00:36:46,470 --> 00:36:48,172
Man: Okay.
794
00:36:48,172 --> 00:36:50,441
Okay, stand by.
795
00:36:50,441 --> 00:36:54,078
Okay,
he's gonna come out now.
796
00:36:56,047 --> 00:36:58,616
Alright, heads up ‐‐ he's
heading for the entrance now.
797
00:36:58,616 --> 00:37:00,418
Heading for the exit.
798
00:37:00,418 --> 00:37:01,686
Yep.
Yep.
799
00:37:01,686 --> 00:37:04,021
He's gonna be coming out.
800
00:37:04,021 --> 00:37:05,289
Here we go.
801
00:37:05,289 --> 00:37:06,791
Man #2:
There he is.
802
00:37:06,791 --> 00:37:09,527
Camo fatigues, black shirt,
big, long beard.
803
00:37:09,527 --> 00:37:12,029
They're walking up,
making contact now. Stand by.
804
00:37:12,029 --> 00:37:15,466
Trying to see if he'll be
willing to come down voluntarily
805
00:37:15,466 --> 00:37:19,103
and answer some questions
at Caldwell PD.
806
00:37:19,103 --> 00:37:24,842
♪♪
807
00:37:24,842 --> 00:37:30,615
♪♪
808
00:37:30,615 --> 00:37:33,084
He's trying
to get back in his car.
809
00:37:33,084 --> 00:37:39,290
♪♪
810
00:37:42,193 --> 00:37:44,228
Well, he's ‐‐
811
00:37:44,228 --> 00:37:45,796
Oh, he's getting in his truck
with him.
812
00:37:45,796 --> 00:37:47,732
John's gonna sit in his truck
with him.
813
00:37:47,732 --> 00:37:49,567
I don't like that
without the wire.
814
00:37:59,410 --> 00:38:04,081
♪♪
815
00:38:04,081 --> 00:38:07,351
We used the Caldwell Police
Department's interview rooms.
816
00:38:07,351 --> 00:38:10,388
He denied any involvement
right off the get‐go.
817
00:38:10,388 --> 00:38:14,792
This interview went
for about 5 1/2 hours‐ish.
818
00:38:14,792 --> 00:38:18,262
And they told him,
"We have your DNA."
819
00:38:18,262 --> 00:38:21,499
Squires: He still really didn't
want to admit anything
820
00:38:21,499 --> 00:38:24,802
but wanted
to take a smoke break.
821
00:38:24,802 --> 00:38:26,370
Then when he came back in...
822
00:38:26,370 --> 00:38:28,639
Pratt:
He kind of slumps a little bit.
823
00:38:28,639 --> 00:38:30,641
He was silent
for a couple minutes.
824
00:38:30,641 --> 00:38:34,478
And then he just said,
"I did it.
825
00:38:34,478 --> 00:38:36,647
I raped her.
826
00:38:36,647 --> 00:38:38,816
And, apparently, I killed her."
827
00:38:38,816 --> 00:38:40,751
♪♪
828
00:38:40,751 --> 00:38:43,921
He told us
that he had gone over there
829
00:38:43,921 --> 00:38:47,091
with the intention to rape Angie
but not kill her.
830
00:38:47,091 --> 00:38:51,896
We asked him if anyone else
was involved, and he said no.
831
00:38:51,896 --> 00:38:53,397
♪♪
832
00:38:53,397 --> 00:38:54,832
Pratt:
This was the way
833
00:38:54,832 --> 00:38:57,368
to make this nightmare
finally come to an end.
834
00:38:57,368 --> 00:38:59,570
It was a huge victory for me.
835
00:38:59,570 --> 00:39:04,675
♪♪
836
00:39:04,675 --> 00:39:06,711
[ Indistinct talking ]
837
00:39:06,711 --> 00:39:10,681
We've charged a 53‐year‐old man
named Brian L. Dripps
838
00:39:10,681 --> 00:39:14,085
with the murder and rape
of your daughter.
839
00:39:14,085 --> 00:39:15,786
[ Sobs ]
840
00:39:15,786 --> 00:39:17,354
Okay.
841
00:39:18,823 --> 00:39:23,694
Just 23 years ago,
we were in this same building,
842
00:39:23,694 --> 00:39:27,732
hearing the sad news
that she was gone.
843
00:39:27,732 --> 00:39:30,935
It was hours
of interviewing.
844
00:39:30,935 --> 00:39:34,238
This was the one chance.
We only get one shot at it.
845
00:39:34,238 --> 00:39:36,507
What's he done
for the last 23 years?
846
00:39:36,507 --> 00:39:37,908
I don't know, really,
847
00:39:37,908 --> 00:39:40,144
if he's done anything,
you know, worth mentioning.
848
00:39:40,144 --> 00:39:41,312
Does he have family?
849
00:39:41,312 --> 00:39:43,647
He's got three kids.
850
00:39:43,647 --> 00:39:45,483
Yeah.
851
00:39:45,483 --> 00:39:47,451
He's got three children.
852
00:39:47,451 --> 00:39:55,593
♪♪
853
00:39:55,593 --> 00:39:57,595
Moore: This is a story
of perseverance ‐‐
854
00:39:57,595 --> 00:40:00,297
of mostly Carol Dodge,
855
00:40:00,297 --> 00:40:03,067
but also of the
Idaho Falls Police Department.
856
00:40:03,067 --> 00:40:04,268
They never gave up.
857
00:40:04,268 --> 00:40:09,006
Finally identifying that DNA
was a triumph.
858
00:40:09,006 --> 00:40:13,344
The fact that we overcame
so many obstacles and dead ends
859
00:40:13,344 --> 00:40:17,114
to finally be there
was an amazing moment.
860
00:40:18,849 --> 00:40:20,918
Hey, lady.
861
00:40:20,918 --> 00:40:22,653
[ Sniffles ]
862
00:40:22,653 --> 00:40:24,188
It's good to see you.
863
00:40:24,188 --> 00:40:26,157
Ohh.
864
00:40:26,157 --> 00:40:28,859
So good to see you.
865
00:40:28,859 --> 00:40:30,361
Are you okay?
866
00:40:30,361 --> 00:40:32,062
[ Sniffles ]
We made it.
867
00:40:32,062 --> 00:40:33,764
We sure as hell did.
You bucked up.
868
00:40:33,764 --> 00:40:34,865
Sure as hell did.
869
00:40:34,865 --> 00:40:36,534
[ Laughs ]
Yep.
870
00:40:36,534 --> 00:40:39,036
CeCe.
Hi, Carol.
871
00:40:39,036 --> 00:40:40,371
Thank you.
872
00:40:40,371 --> 00:40:42,640
♪♪
873
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,308
It couldn't have been done
without you.
874
00:40:44,308 --> 00:40:46,210
Well, it couldn't have
been done without you.
875
00:40:46,210 --> 00:40:49,046
You're almost superhuman
to us.
876
00:40:49,046 --> 00:40:50,481
♪♪
877
00:40:50,481 --> 00:40:51,982
[ Sighs, sniffles ]
878
00:40:51,982 --> 00:40:53,951
We made it.
Thank you.
879
00:40:53,951 --> 00:40:57,521
♪♪
880
00:41:08,766 --> 00:41:13,170
Getting answers for Carol
and having Chris Tapp exonerated
881
00:41:13,170 --> 00:41:18,008
was an incredibly rewarding end
to such a complex case.
882
00:41:18,008 --> 00:41:20,244
[ Applause ]
883
00:41:20,244 --> 00:41:23,147
This is pure joy.
884
00:41:26,083 --> 00:41:27,351
[ Laughter, cheering ]
885
00:41:27,351 --> 00:41:30,421
It really was the pinnacle
of my career.
886
00:41:30,421 --> 00:41:38,863
♪♪
65665
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