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Farid Morocco
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A grisly discovery
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in the town of Sangre de Cristo
this morning and a number
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of SDC residents are
reportedly still missing,
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because as one police
spokesman put it,
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the whole town is a crime scene.
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You spend 30 years
patrolling this border,
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you're gonna see
some horrible things.
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We all thought it was a
mass murder case, you know,
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a serial killer.
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Our thoughts
and prayers go out
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to the families of the
Sangre de Cristo victims.
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A person
of interest was detained.
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We found the suspect
covered in blood.
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38-Year-old Francisco Salazar,
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an illegal immigrant, has been
charged with over two dozen
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counts of first degree murder.
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Everybody seems so
shocked about this.
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Not me, because I know what
these people are capable of.
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If this guy actually killed
the whole fucking town,
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kill him.
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Fry his ass.
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A serial killer, I
mean, that was pretty
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much the general consensus.
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Francisco
Salazar remains jailed
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under high security in Hinzman.
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But then the photos emerged.
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It changed-- it
change everything
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that we thought about.
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I don't understand.
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Why did you keep
taking pictures?
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Do you own a gun?
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I do, and ever since I've
seen these photographs
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I've been sleeping with
it under my pillow.
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Although
the area has been cordoned off
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by police, sources
say authorities
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have been unable to quantify
a specific body count.
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In what's being described as
a likely mass murder scene,
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police recovered the bodies
of over a dozen victims
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in various sites
throughout the town.
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Police are combing the
town's two square miles
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as they begin to unearth more
clues to this shocking tragedy.
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We've got a body here.
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The body count in what police are
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calling the Sangre de Cristo
Massacre has risen to over 20.
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Residents of nearby Hinzman
and the border communities
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are encouraged to avoid
the general SDC area
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and to report any
tips or suspicious
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behavior to the authorities.
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In all my years
of law enforcement,
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I've never come across
anything like this.
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God abandoned Sangre de Cristo.
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There's nothing left.
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It still amazes me that the
largest single-day homicide
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in history of the state of
Arizona got no attention,
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zero media coverage.
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It's hard to imagine the
scale of the carnage.
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Most bodies were
only partial remains,
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scraps of bloody clothing,
limbs in the street.
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Some bloody trails ran
out to a quarter mile
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as if the bodies
had been dragged.
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Other trails veered out
into the surrounding deserts
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and just disappeared.
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All of them-- men, women,
children-- gone in one night.
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I've been a writer since 1995.
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I've written five
different books.
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I worked for a couple of years
as an investigative reporter
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in Los Angeles.
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We covered all the things
that "LA Times" didn't cover.
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Every place is
known for something.
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South Arizona, the Vanishing
Capital of the United States.
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It's true.
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There's been more
than a few that have
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gone missing from the area.
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But look what's going
on-- drug trafficking,
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human trafficking, smuggling,
weapons, gang activity.
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There's no place
that has more crime
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than here in the borderlands.
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You lose one person,
that's a tragedy.
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To see a whole town wiped out--
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We got lucky.
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It was their town, not ours.
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It's not a matter of if,
it's a matter of when.
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Wake up.
Listen to me.
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I've been telling
you this for years,
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but you've ignored me up to now.
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Well, I'm telling you, you
can't ignore me anymore.
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A person of interest
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was detained as he attempted
to flee across the border.
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He is reportedly a
Latino man in his 30s
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who was employed at
Sangre de Cristo Ranch
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at the time of the murders.
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Well, you know, I've seen 40
years of crime and violence.
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The only man that ever scared
me was Francisco Salazar.
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Francisco Salazar was an
illegal that had been living
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in Sangre de Cristo
for seven years
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after jumping the border from
the Nogales, Mexico, which made
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him a pretty convenient fit.
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Even with all the things
that go on around here,
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you never expect to see
something like this.
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He was raving when
we caught him.
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He was raving when we put
him in that jail cell.
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Once he was in there,
he didn't say too much.
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23 hours after they closed
Sangre de Cristo down,
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Salazar staggered
to desert Highway
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67, 12 miles east of
SDC, and collapsed
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at the side of the road.
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The only truck to stop
was an independent rig
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co-owned by Mario Schatzker Rio,
who had just got his license.
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He dragged Salazar into
the cab, turned around,
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and drove him west
to the nearest town
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with a hospital, Hinzman.
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The hospital contacted the cops.
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How are you doing?
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- Oh, good.
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How's Brad been?
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John Parano
understands his people,
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just like his father--
a little comforting,
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a wink, a little bullying, a
big hat, toothpick, his stories.
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It's kind of a big show.
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He never misses an
opportunity to press his case,
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even if it is some cheesy
public access piece.
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I was born and raised
right here in Hinzman.
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I've been elected
Sheriff of Hinzman County
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for seven consecutive terms.
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Before that, I was a Deputy
Sheriff for 10 years.
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I've devoted my entire life to
the good people of this area.
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Sheriff, how would
you profile Francisco Salazar?
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If there's ever a checklist
for a serial killer,
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Salazar would check every box.
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He was a loner.
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He came from a
low-class background.
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He had anger issues.
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His father abandoned
him at an early age.
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You know, he was a drifter.
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And I actually worked
with him for a little while.
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We were part of a re-roofing
crew at the pharmacy.
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He was one quiet dude.
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I mean, my friend dropped
his sandwich at lunch.
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Salazar takes a
fucking picture of it.
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They found dead corpses of
little kids out in the desert.
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A lot of folks
couldn't sleep at night.
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Was this the start
of something bigger?
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Salazar, he's-- he's La Raza.
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So were the rest of his thugs.
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Coming here to wipe us off
the map, like he did SDC.
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He did odd jobs around town.
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He painted houses of some
of his eventual victims.
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Judge Jack Hudson
has instituted a full media ban
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with no cameras permitted
in the courtroom
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and no media personnel
allowed within 200
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yards of the courthouse.
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This Lawrence
Ross guy, you know,
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he came here with
the wrong idea.
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Everybody saw
where it was going,
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so of course there was
nothing but closed doors.
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You know, sorry.
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Look.
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We did not arrest Salazar
because he was Mexican.
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We arrested Salazar
because he was
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covered with 15 types of blood.
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AM 970,
Hinzman Arizona.
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This is "The Gus Greer
Show," and I'm Gus Greer.
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And for the next
two hours, you're
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going to get the
most valuable thing
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that you've ever had in your
life-- an education from me.
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The Mexican, the cholo, La Raza.
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It's a culture that
celebrates violence.
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They glorify death
because they have nothing
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else to look forward to.
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I can't say the
political climate
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at the time had anything to do
with the way he was treated.
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I absolutely believe that
an Hispanic man who is also
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an illegal immigrant
can get a fair trial
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in the state of Arizona.
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Let's
not forget-- Arizona
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embraced the KKK
after Reconstruction.
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When we're talking
about lynchings,
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Arizona had almost as many as
anywhere else in the country.
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Different state, different
era, same old monster--
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controlling the power structure
by day, hiding behind masks
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at night.
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Make no mistake,
we are at war.
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You think
the government's
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going to come in and save you?
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You think they're going to start
putting troops on the border?
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Action has consequences,
ladies and gentlemen.
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And inaction has more
serious consequences.
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You have a choice to make.
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Are you going to sit there and
roll over, and let this tide
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roll over you and destroy
you and your family,
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or are you going to stand up?
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Are you willing to
fight for what's right
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and for what's yours?
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When you're talking about
the history of this country,
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I mean, it's an
indisputable fact--
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there are very few minorities
that have gotten a fair
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trial in an all-white jury.
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They didn't need a trial.
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Public had already
tried and convicted him
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before it ever even started.
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What do you get when you cross
an illegal with an octopus?
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What?
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I don't know, but it
sure can pick lettuce.
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A lot of lettuce.
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These damn illegal
Mexicans come over
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here and do all their drugs.
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And he goes, that's not ours.
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There's all their
killings and stuff.
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You know, if you go out there
like they did in the old days
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in the John Wayne
movies and hang one
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where everybody
can watch, then one
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day, they gonna stop doing it.
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The attorney they
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gave him was on his third case.
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Before that, he handled
some counterfeiter
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and some petty thief.
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Salazar was his third case.
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I did
my due diligence.
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I'm sworn to defend my client
to the best of my ability.
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I think that I did that.
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I sat in court.
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I expected to see a monster.
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I seen him.
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He was just slumped over,
quiet, with a blank stare.
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There was no one
else left alive to question.
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He was the only survivor.
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But Salazar never said a
single word during the trial.
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Teeth marks-- that's something
I'm not going to get into.
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OK.
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How's it going, Bob?
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Day three of the trial, and
I'm already sick to my stomach.
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I never want to hear
another word about the freak
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eating the people he murdered.
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I basically believe that
if he killed these people,
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I believe he should
get the death
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penalty for doing what he did.
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He's an outcast.
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He should be put
to death on the spot.
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Lethal injection.
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Fry his ass.
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And that was the level of
analysis in the courtroom--
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a one-man serial killer army.
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They could only do
forensics on seven
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partial corpses that were intact
enough to be tagged and IDed.
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When pressed about
identifying the other remains,
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the coroner said on the stand,
how do you run DNA tests on 20
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square blocks of bloody sand?
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They didn't notice that the
teeth marks on the victims
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didn't match Francisco's teeth.
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And yet, Francisco
has bite marks.
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They match the victims.
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How can you botch that?
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During the first trial,
I felt like I needed
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to seek someone out who
understood the local culture
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of the border.
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Carlos Olivares,
second-generation border
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patrol agent, following in
the footsteps of his father.
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When
you grow up in this area,
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you realize that there's
certain things you need to do.
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There's just a protection
that needs to happen.
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Spend 30 years
patrolling this border,
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you're going to see
some horrible things.
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We find bodies of dead
women and children,
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dehydrated bodies, sometimes
just 10 feet from a hidden
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stash of water bottles.
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Lately, these last
few years on patrol,
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I started seeing
some things that
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are getting harder to
explain-- bodies that
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weren't just rotted by the sun.
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They had been chewed-- not by
mountain lions or buzzards.
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But nobody in my line
of work talked about it.
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Whatever
happened in Sangre
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de Cristo couldn't have been
the work of just one man.
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I didn't need a law
degree to know that.
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Based on the overwhelming
amount of evidence given,
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we convicted Mr.
Salazar, as I remember,
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in about a half hour,
which was longer than it
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probably should've taken.
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Salazar
was the-- a easy target.
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He was a person
easy to dehumanize.
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To the people in Hinzman,
he was just some guy
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who went from job to job.
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He would work on
construction jobs.
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He would do anything.
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He's minimized as being just
sort of drifter-- you know,
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some cash-and-carry guy who you
found on the end of a block,
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and you put in the back
of a pickup, do your work,
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and you forgot about
him five minutes
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after you dropped him back off.
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During the first trial,
I knew that Salazar
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had been interviewed on camera
only once, on the evening
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he'd been taken into custody.
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I spent 13 months
filling out Freedom
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of Information Act
requests at both the state
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00:17:51,971 --> 00:17:54,274
and federal level-- nothing.
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The Arizona Open Meetings Act?
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I got nothing.
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Until I got this video.
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Francisco interviews.
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00:18:06,719 --> 00:18:09,522
You said that
they were people that you knew,
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00:18:09,556 --> 00:18:15,562
but something wasn't
right about them.
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00:18:15,595 --> 00:18:22,034
They were the same
people, but they were dead.
305
00:18:22,068 --> 00:18:24,504
Why didn't you
hear about this tape before?
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00:18:24,537 --> 00:18:25,805
The tape was never
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00:18:25,838 --> 00:18:27,574
entered into evidence
in the first trial,
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00:18:27,607 --> 00:18:29,342
and it was barred
in the second one.
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00:18:29,376 --> 00:18:31,711
You didn't give
serious thought to using
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00:18:31,744 --> 00:18:33,480
the video in his defense?
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Have you seen the video?
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It's not an insanity defense.
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It's-- it's a suicide note.
314
00:18:38,551 --> 00:18:41,421
It sounds like the ramblings
of a crazy man, sure.
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00:18:41,454 --> 00:18:43,990
But given the
evidence, his story
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00:18:44,023 --> 00:18:45,358
actually made no
more or less sense
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than the official version.
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00:18:52,732 --> 00:18:55,235
The administrative
staff were very concerned
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about him-- me
interviewing him not
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00:18:58,638 --> 00:19:01,708
being shackled to the chair,
which is a typical thing.
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00:19:01,741 --> 00:19:04,811
I wanted to get rid of as
many barriers as I could,
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00:19:04,844 --> 00:19:07,514
because I could tell that he was
pretty closed off emotionally,
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00:19:07,547 --> 00:19:10,149
and he was kind of in a
shell in his own head,
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00:19:10,183 --> 00:19:15,655
and very, very, very scared.
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00:19:15,688 --> 00:19:19,892
I said, listen, just let
him come in and sit with me,
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because he was quiet.
327
00:19:21,261 --> 00:19:23,095
And you know, you guys
are outside the door.
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00:19:23,129 --> 00:19:24,331
You've got cameras in here.
329
00:19:24,364 --> 00:19:27,267
And-- and you have
guns outside there.
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00:19:27,300 --> 00:19:29,001
And whatever it is that
you need to do to bust
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00:19:29,035 --> 00:19:31,338
in and-- and you know,
what's he gonna-- you know,
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00:19:31,371 --> 00:19:32,372
what else could he do?
333
00:19:32,405 --> 00:19:33,406
What's your name?
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00:19:41,281 --> 00:19:44,517
It took quite a while
for him to even start
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00:19:44,551 --> 00:19:47,520
to answer any questions-- his
name, or where he grew up,
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or basic just, you know,
assessment stuff that we do.
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00:20:01,534 --> 00:20:03,303
And I was wondering
if, maybe, he
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00:20:03,336 --> 00:20:06,239
was regressing back
into some childhood
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00:20:06,273 --> 00:20:08,775
memory or feeling or something.
340
00:20:16,015 --> 00:20:18,751
The level of trauma
that Francisco has seemed
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00:20:18,785 --> 00:20:21,554
to experience in his
life could easily
342
00:20:21,588 --> 00:20:25,858
be compared to somebody who
has come back from being
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00:20:25,892 --> 00:20:29,629
in a combat situation.
344
00:20:29,662 --> 00:20:31,298
It doesn't matter
what you do to me.
345
00:20:31,331 --> 00:20:34,166
They're still out there.
346
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:39,506
Who--
who's out there?
347
00:20:39,539 --> 00:20:44,311
At least they
can't get me in here.
348
00:20:44,344 --> 00:20:46,212
This
is a guy who was facing
349
00:20:46,245 --> 00:20:50,350
death, the horrors of jail.
350
00:20:50,383 --> 00:20:53,252
Yet somehow he feels
safer on the inside
351
00:20:53,286 --> 00:20:55,822
than he does out here.
352
00:20:55,855 --> 00:20:59,559
In my professional opinion,
even though his story sounds
353
00:20:59,592 --> 00:21:02,829
like it might be a little bit,
you know, crazy and out there,
354
00:21:02,862 --> 00:21:05,598
I did not find anything about
him that was psychotic--
355
00:21:05,632 --> 00:21:08,935
his behavior, anything
he said to me.
356
00:21:08,968 --> 00:21:11,971
He was, you know, in layman's
term, completely sane.
357
00:21:18,511 --> 00:21:22,148
But it didn't make any
sense, which is why I
358
00:21:22,181 --> 00:21:24,884
tried for the insanity defense.
359
00:21:24,917 --> 00:21:26,853
He looked
me directly in the eye,
360
00:21:26,886 --> 00:21:31,658
and he was very specific
about what he was saying.
361
00:21:31,691 --> 00:21:35,395
And-- and he never
changed his story.
362
00:21:35,428 --> 00:21:38,164
Salazar wasn't
crazy or-- or at least
363
00:21:38,197 --> 00:21:40,367
not crazy all by himself.
364
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,602
Crazy was what he
saw that night.
365
00:21:42,635 --> 00:21:46,573
Crazy was seeing everyone
he knew massacred.
366
00:21:46,606 --> 00:21:50,343
Some of them are bloody,
with blood everywhere.
367
00:21:55,715 --> 00:21:58,385
It's the ravings
of a madman, right?
368
00:21:58,418 --> 00:22:02,088
But do you know what
was really crazy?
369
00:22:02,121 --> 00:22:05,358
I had to get help.
370
00:22:05,392 --> 00:22:07,126
I took my camera--
371
00:22:07,159 --> 00:22:10,597
The arrest report listed
the items on Salazar's person
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00:22:10,630 --> 00:22:13,433
when he was dropped off
by the truck driver.
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00:22:13,466 --> 00:22:18,104
One SLR 35 millimeter camera
fitted with a 70 to 200
374
00:22:18,137 --> 00:22:23,676
millimeter lens
and a flash unit.
375
00:22:23,710 --> 00:22:26,345
Everyone around here
knew he was a photographer.
376
00:22:26,379 --> 00:22:28,114
He took pictures of everybody.
377
00:22:34,086 --> 00:22:35,455
It was almost involuntary.
378
00:22:35,488 --> 00:22:37,824
He just saw something, and
he took a picture of it.
379
00:22:37,857 --> 00:22:40,960
And he kind of, you know,
painted a history of his life
380
00:22:40,993 --> 00:22:41,894
with it.
381
00:22:41,928 --> 00:22:43,530
Salazar was a
lifelong Catholic.
382
00:22:43,563 --> 00:22:45,998
He believed in the power
of the resurrection.
383
00:23:01,481 --> 00:23:04,717
He spent
seven years in SDC,
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00:23:04,751 --> 00:23:08,988
taking pictures of dead
things in a dead town.
385
00:23:14,193 --> 00:23:16,629
Being an illegal, strike one.
386
00:23:16,663 --> 00:23:19,699
A loner with a
camera, strike two.
387
00:23:19,732 --> 00:23:22,034
Grace Putnam was
pretty much strike
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00:23:22,068 --> 00:23:26,305
three, especially considering
everything that happened.
389
00:23:26,338 --> 00:23:28,240
Grace Putnam lived in SDC.
390
00:23:28,274 --> 00:23:30,109
Francisco was a
friend of the family.
391
00:23:30,142 --> 00:23:35,748
Salazar's house was--
was jammed with these
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00:23:35,782 --> 00:23:39,185
weird and-- and
suggestive photographs
393
00:23:39,218 --> 00:23:41,153
of children and had roadkill.
394
00:23:47,059 --> 00:23:49,662
Well, I've looked
at all of the earlier photos.
395
00:23:49,696 --> 00:23:51,531
I've spent some time with him.
396
00:23:51,564 --> 00:23:53,800
He has a photographer's
eye for sure.
397
00:23:53,833 --> 00:23:56,669
The best photographer
I've ever seen?
398
00:23:56,703 --> 00:23:57,770
No.
399
00:23:57,804 --> 00:24:01,608
But he definitely had
a professional eye.
400
00:24:01,641 --> 00:24:03,676
The shots of the little
girl-- several of those
401
00:24:03,710 --> 00:24:05,177
are delicate and beautiful.
402
00:24:05,211 --> 00:24:08,881
The shots of the roadkill
are a perfect counterpoint.
403
00:24:08,915 --> 00:24:11,217
You can read what you
want into anything.
404
00:24:11,250 --> 00:24:14,353
That's-- that's part of what
makes us human, I suppose.
405
00:24:14,386 --> 00:24:17,490
The shrinks have
a fancy word for it.
406
00:24:17,524 --> 00:24:19,526
It's-- it's voyeur.
407
00:24:19,559 --> 00:24:21,694
My take-- pervert.
408
00:24:21,728 --> 00:24:23,663
So Francisco was a photographer.
409
00:24:23,696 --> 00:24:25,632
Big fucking deal.
410
00:24:25,665 --> 00:24:27,399
But there was
something on that tape
411
00:24:27,433 --> 00:24:31,403
I couldn't put my finger on.
412
00:24:31,437 --> 00:24:34,974
I had to get help.
413
00:24:35,007 --> 00:24:38,645
I took my camera--
414
00:24:38,678 --> 00:24:39,946
During the first
trial, I tried
415
00:24:39,979 --> 00:24:41,814
to contact Schatzker
Rio, the truck
416
00:24:41,848 --> 00:24:43,516
driver who picked up Salazar.
417
00:24:43,550 --> 00:24:45,251
He didn't want to talk.
418
00:24:45,284 --> 00:24:47,253
I left message after message.
419
00:24:47,286 --> 00:24:49,121
We never got together in person.
420
00:24:49,155 --> 00:24:51,724
But after the appeal
was lodged, that's
421
00:24:51,758 --> 00:24:53,726
when I got this phone message.
422
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,328
Mr. Ross,
I'm sending you something.
423
00:24:56,362 --> 00:24:58,330
I found it in my
cab under the seat.
424
00:24:58,364 --> 00:24:59,632
Must have been there for months.
425
00:24:59,666 --> 00:25:00,967
I don't know.
426
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,570
I don't know what it is,
but I don't wanna know.
427
00:25:03,603 --> 00:25:04,737
Now you have it.
428
00:25:04,771 --> 00:25:06,272
You keep me out of this, though.
429
00:25:06,305 --> 00:25:07,907
That's all I ask.
430
00:25:07,940 --> 00:25:10,810
I called him, got no reply.
431
00:25:10,843 --> 00:25:16,315
A couple of days later--
432
00:25:24,557 --> 00:25:29,361
A week later,
the roll arrived.
433
00:25:29,395 --> 00:25:30,697
Excuse me, Sheriff.
434
00:25:30,730 --> 00:25:32,098
Do you want to talk us
about the Salazar case,
435
00:25:32,131 --> 00:25:34,466
about how the photos are
gonna affect his appeal?
436
00:25:34,500 --> 00:25:37,503
No.
437
00:25:37,536 --> 00:25:40,039
What Francisco
said on the tape,
438
00:25:40,072 --> 00:25:45,444
what everyone else discounted
as insane ravings-- turns out,
439
00:25:45,477 --> 00:25:51,550
he documented it all.
440
00:25:51,584 --> 00:25:55,054
Something primal and horrible
moved through Sangre de Cristo
441
00:25:55,087 --> 00:25:56,122
that night.
442
00:25:56,155 --> 00:26:02,762
And the one survivor
made a record of it.
443
00:26:02,795 --> 00:26:05,264
Francisco had a camera
with him that night.
444
00:26:05,297 --> 00:26:09,468
He took it with him and
recorded what he saw on one
445
00:26:09,501 --> 00:26:11,604
roll of film, 36 exposures.
446
00:26:11,638 --> 00:26:13,272
I'm
still in the process
447
00:26:13,305 --> 00:26:14,641
of appealing his conviction.
448
00:26:14,674 --> 00:26:17,810
But I can't enter these
photos as evidence.
449
00:26:17,844 --> 00:26:19,078
I'd be disbarred.
450
00:26:29,088 --> 00:26:32,625
All this stuff about
the photographs is BS.
451
00:26:32,659 --> 00:26:35,527
Photos prove nothing-- nothing.
452
00:26:35,561 --> 00:26:40,700
I-- I know many kids right here
in Hinzman who could Photoshop
453
00:26:40,733 --> 00:26:44,370
you into the famous
grassy knoll in Dallas
454
00:26:44,403 --> 00:26:48,107
with a smoking gun in your hand,
and you'd believe it was you.
455
00:26:53,112 --> 00:26:57,416
I've been a professional
photojournalist for-- Jesus,
456
00:26:57,449 --> 00:26:58,751
over 40 years now.
457
00:26:58,785 --> 00:27:02,288
I've shot in 'Nam, shot
in Cambodia, pretty much
458
00:27:02,321 --> 00:27:03,589
all around the world.
459
00:27:03,622 --> 00:27:05,992
These are as
authentic as they get.
460
00:27:06,025 --> 00:27:08,160
Usually, when somebody
is playing with film,
461
00:27:08,194 --> 00:27:08,861
you can tell.
462
00:27:08,895 --> 00:27:10,429
There's rough edges.
463
00:27:10,462 --> 00:27:13,265
There are little things that--
that a professional can tell
464
00:27:13,299 --> 00:27:15,301
when looking at photography.
465
00:27:15,334 --> 00:27:17,603
You look at these pictures,
there is none of that.
466
00:27:17,636 --> 00:27:21,007
These pictures are real.
467
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,909
The
judge didn't want them.
468
00:27:22,942 --> 00:27:25,344
Parano didn't want them.
469
00:27:25,377 --> 00:27:26,846
It doesn't matter.
470
00:27:26,879 --> 00:27:31,650
The photos are not evidence.
471
00:27:31,684 --> 00:27:33,185
I would tell the
local authorities
472
00:27:33,219 --> 00:27:36,723
that they are wrong-- that these
are as authentic as it gets.
473
00:27:36,756 --> 00:27:39,625
I'm frankly surprised
their own people haven't
474
00:27:39,658 --> 00:27:42,762
looked at the photos
and been able to confirm
475
00:27:42,795 --> 00:27:45,097
the truth of the pictures.
476
00:27:45,131 --> 00:27:48,500
I'll tell you what
those photos are-- a sick prank
477
00:27:48,534 --> 00:27:50,036
played by sick freaks.
478
00:27:55,975 --> 00:27:58,110
Everybody heard
about the photographs.
479
00:27:58,144 --> 00:27:59,912
Nobody believed they were real.
480
00:27:59,946 --> 00:28:02,214
They were trying to make
us feel sympathy for a man
481
00:28:02,248 --> 00:28:06,185
that didn't deserve any.
482
00:28:06,218 --> 00:28:08,721
The killing
started, at least as far
483
00:28:08,755 --> 00:28:11,023
as Salazar's story
was concerned,
484
00:28:11,057 --> 00:28:13,025
before he snapped
a single frame.
485
00:28:13,059 --> 00:28:17,296
The only two explanations--
either the-- the guy
486
00:28:17,329 --> 00:28:21,067
went out there and
staged everything,
487
00:28:21,100 --> 00:28:26,272
or he's absolutely
telling the truth.
488
00:28:26,305 --> 00:28:30,376
Some of them were dead.
489
00:28:30,409 --> 00:28:37,383
And some of them-- hm.
490
00:28:37,416 --> 00:28:40,519
He was babbling, and I
thought I was going to lose him,
491
00:28:40,552 --> 00:28:42,088
which-- which I eventually did.
492
00:28:42,121 --> 00:28:44,323
So I asked him to
start at the beginning.
493
00:28:49,728 --> 00:28:51,130
Francisco, what
were you doing when
494
00:28:51,163 --> 00:28:55,868
Danny showed up at your house?
495
00:28:55,902 --> 00:29:02,875
I was putting
film in my camera.
496
00:29:02,909 --> 00:29:04,676
According to Salazar,
he was loading up
497
00:29:04,710 --> 00:29:06,879
his camera, getting
ready to shoot
498
00:29:06,913 --> 00:29:09,816
some dead coyotes or possums.
499
00:29:09,849 --> 00:29:11,784
But Danny shows up
on his doorstep,
500
00:29:11,818 --> 00:29:14,420
bleeding out like a stuck pig.
501
00:29:14,453 --> 00:29:17,824
And then you
said that he-- he came in,
502
00:29:17,857 --> 00:29:20,626
and he was bleeding.
503
00:29:20,659 --> 00:29:23,896
And you tried to help him.
504
00:29:23,930 --> 00:29:27,566
And you laid him
down on the couch.
505
00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:29,936
Is that correct?
506
00:29:29,969 --> 00:29:32,238
I saw him die.
507
00:29:32,271 --> 00:29:34,807
How are you sure
that he was dead?
508
00:29:34,841 --> 00:29:36,542
He was dead.
509
00:29:36,575 --> 00:29:41,613
I know he was dead.
510
00:29:41,647 --> 00:29:45,517
The police forensic reports
backed up that the victim did
511
00:29:45,551 --> 00:29:47,153
die at Salazar's house.
512
00:29:47,186 --> 00:29:48,955
Danny's body was one
of the few that could
513
00:29:48,988 --> 00:29:54,894
be identified, but barely.
514
00:29:54,927 --> 00:29:56,963
Danny Montez was my cousin.
515
00:29:56,996 --> 00:29:59,098
I thought he and
Salazar were cool.
516
00:29:59,131 --> 00:30:02,268
Montez used to work in the
fields near Salazar's house.
517
00:30:02,301 --> 00:30:04,536
This is where
it gets confusing to me.
518
00:30:11,343 --> 00:30:16,448
One minute, he's alive and on
your couch, and then he's dead,
519
00:30:16,482 --> 00:30:21,053
and then he's standing up,
and he's coming at you,
520
00:30:21,087 --> 00:30:23,222
and you're afraid.
521
00:30:23,255 --> 00:30:25,124
He was dead.
522
00:30:25,157 --> 00:30:30,029
And then he came after me.
523
00:30:30,062 --> 00:30:31,898
And I had to stop him.
524
00:30:31,931 --> 00:30:33,432
That's what happened.
525
00:30:33,465 --> 00:30:35,734
So when he
was telling me this story,
526
00:30:35,767 --> 00:30:37,303
he was very clear and concise.
527
00:30:37,336 --> 00:30:39,571
And he had seemed to, like,
let a weight off his shoulders.
528
00:30:39,605 --> 00:30:41,974
And he exhaled, and he
got very calm after he
529
00:30:42,008 --> 00:30:43,475
talked to me about this.
530
00:30:43,509 --> 00:30:46,412
So he's very clear in the
details about what happened.
531
00:30:46,445 --> 00:30:48,380
I mean, doesn't that
seem strange to you?
532
00:30:48,414 --> 00:30:50,482
This is not something
I've ever heard before.
533
00:30:50,516 --> 00:30:52,018
It's what happened.
534
00:30:52,051 --> 00:30:59,225
It was his same body and same
face, but it wasn't Danny.
535
00:31:02,228 --> 00:31:06,632
Did he say anything?
536
00:31:06,665 --> 00:31:07,967
No?
537
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,435
No words?
538
00:31:09,468 --> 00:31:12,004
The boy's body was
found in the middle
539
00:31:12,038 --> 00:31:13,305
of Salazar's living room.
540
00:31:13,339 --> 00:31:15,007
You stopped him.
541
00:31:15,041 --> 00:31:19,845
How did you-- how did you
stop him from attacking you?
542
00:31:19,878 --> 00:31:27,119
I-- I held him.
543
00:31:27,153 --> 00:31:35,161
And I hurt him.
And he stopped.
544
00:31:43,102 --> 00:31:44,570
How
did you hurt him?
545
00:31:56,282 --> 00:31:58,217
That's tough
evidence to overcome.
546
00:31:58,250 --> 00:32:00,152
There's no question
that Francisco hacked
547
00:32:00,186 --> 00:32:02,254
up Danny Montez to pieces.
548
00:32:02,288 --> 00:32:05,191
The question is,
did he kill him?
549
00:32:05,224 --> 00:32:07,326
So after--
after all of that happened,
550
00:32:07,359 --> 00:32:11,830
then
551
00:32:11,863 --> 00:32:13,532
I had to get help.
552
00:32:13,565 --> 00:32:16,302
If Salazar killed
Montez, why would
553
00:32:16,335 --> 00:32:19,471
he run into town to get help?
554
00:32:19,505 --> 00:32:24,143
Because going south
wasn't an option.
555
00:32:24,176 --> 00:32:26,412
Here is photograph
01 of the roll.
556
00:32:33,085 --> 00:32:35,721
This is the start of
what Salazar saw--
557
00:32:35,754 --> 00:32:38,190
what sent him back toward town.
558
00:32:38,224 --> 00:32:40,326
This is what made him run.
559
00:32:40,359 --> 00:32:43,429
Salazar's roll of film was
a map, from the edge of town
560
00:32:43,462 --> 00:32:45,731
three miles across what was
left of Sangre de Cristo.
561
00:32:54,540 --> 00:32:56,375
In one
way, it doesn't matter
562
00:32:56,408 --> 00:32:59,045
what you think the photos mean.
563
00:32:59,078 --> 00:33:00,546
You can deny them.
564
00:33:00,579 --> 00:33:02,881
You can look to them
for clues about what
565
00:33:02,914 --> 00:33:05,217
happened to your loved one.
566
00:33:05,251 --> 00:33:07,819
You can call them
a sick media joke.
567
00:33:07,853 --> 00:33:10,922
You can even hope for salvation.
568
00:33:10,956 --> 00:33:16,128
But it's something,
and it's coming closer.
569
00:33:16,162 --> 00:33:18,597
Salazar lived about
a mile outside of town,
570
00:33:18,630 --> 00:33:19,631
on the fringes.
571
00:33:19,665 --> 00:33:22,034
His cabin was at the
foot of the hills.
572
00:33:22,068 --> 00:33:25,337
He ran away through the
fields, toward the town.
573
00:33:25,371 --> 00:33:27,573
Based on the light in
that first picture,
574
00:33:27,606 --> 00:33:30,842
it was about 15
minutes to sundown.
575
00:33:30,876 --> 00:33:32,311
Migrant workers
were still working.
576
00:33:32,344 --> 00:33:33,745
SDC's the brown town
577
00:33:33,779 --> 00:33:35,147
that actually services Hinzman.
578
00:33:35,181 --> 00:33:37,216
That's where you get all
the invisible people-- all
579
00:33:37,249 --> 00:33:40,586
your gardeners, all of the
service people, all your maids,
580
00:33:40,619 --> 00:33:43,955
people who pick your food,
who take care of the kids.
581
00:33:43,989 --> 00:33:46,658
When we were kids, we couldn't
even pronounce the damn place.
582
00:33:46,692 --> 00:33:51,963
You're like "Shandray de
Caso," "Sandray de Crystal."
583
00:33:51,997 --> 00:33:53,799
We just call it Savageland.
584
00:33:53,832 --> 00:33:56,202
The cops found what
they said were the remains
585
00:33:56,235 --> 00:33:58,170
of 11 victims out in the field.
586
00:33:58,204 --> 00:33:59,905
That's
just Savageland
587
00:33:59,938 --> 00:34:03,075
living down to its reputation.
588
00:34:03,109 --> 00:34:05,444
The
first theory was cartels.
589
00:34:05,477 --> 00:34:09,481
SDC is in an area of major
cross-border drug supply lines.
590
00:34:09,515 --> 00:34:12,984
Maybe drugs were passing
through and some gang wanted
591
00:34:13,018 --> 00:34:14,620
to stake out a new territory.
592
00:34:14,653 --> 00:34:17,389
There were a lot of
thieves with drugs.
593
00:34:17,423 --> 00:34:20,126
Drugs were coming in and
the-- the cartel was coming in
594
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:21,993
and influencing the young kids.
595
00:34:22,027 --> 00:34:24,663
Cartel killings
are designed to make a point.
596
00:34:24,696 --> 00:34:27,933
They stack the heads up all
neat like it's an altar,
597
00:34:27,966 --> 00:34:29,901
or they hang the
bodies from bridges.
598
00:34:29,935 --> 00:34:31,603
It keeps people in line.
599
00:34:31,637 --> 00:34:34,373
This wasn't
designed to make a point.
600
00:34:34,406 --> 00:34:35,974
This
was random carnage.
601
00:34:36,007 --> 00:34:43,849
Salazar's running for cover,
exposed, out in the open.
602
00:34:43,882 --> 00:34:46,952
Coming out of the fields,
he headed into town.
603
00:34:46,985 --> 00:34:49,087
He came across Ron Templeton.
604
00:34:54,693 --> 00:34:56,962
Templeton was a
hunter from Hinzman.
605
00:34:56,995 --> 00:35:02,501
Spent his off hours out here
searching through the area.
606
00:35:02,534 --> 00:35:06,272
I used to see him all the
time out here on patrol.
607
00:35:06,305 --> 00:35:07,906
I walk in the house
608
00:35:07,939 --> 00:35:09,941
and expect him to be here.
609
00:35:09,975 --> 00:35:12,644
It's-- it's really
hard to get used
610
00:35:12,678 --> 00:35:20,652
to the idea that he's not-- he's
not in-- in-- in here anymore.
611
00:35:20,686 --> 00:35:27,092
Did you
know Ron Templeton?
612
00:35:27,125 --> 00:35:29,661
The police say that
you were in his truck.
613
00:35:39,771 --> 00:35:41,240
Because he had a gun.
614
00:35:53,952 --> 00:35:56,322
Some of the
victims were from Hinzman.
615
00:35:56,355 --> 00:35:59,124
Some of them were beloved
members of the community.
616
00:35:59,157 --> 00:36:02,060
They were not just
SDC residents.
617
00:36:02,093 --> 00:36:06,164
I mean, Ron Templeton was a
member of the Founders Club.
618
00:36:06,198 --> 00:36:07,766
People loved him.
619
00:36:07,799 --> 00:36:11,670
He was such a
big part of just the community,
620
00:36:11,703 --> 00:36:12,738
too.
621
00:36:12,771 --> 00:36:16,308
So every place I go
and everything I do,
622
00:36:16,342 --> 00:36:19,245
I expect to see him.
623
00:36:19,278 --> 00:36:22,214
Ron Templeton was a good man.
624
00:36:22,248 --> 00:36:24,783
When he came across
Salazar, I-- I
625
00:36:24,816 --> 00:36:28,954
guess that he tried to find
some good in him as well.
626
00:36:28,987 --> 00:36:31,590
And that was his big mistake.
627
00:36:31,623 --> 00:36:37,329
I tried to get him to come
with me to help these people,
628
00:36:37,363 --> 00:36:40,532
to help my friends.
629
00:36:40,566 --> 00:36:42,368
So the
man in the truck,
630
00:36:42,401 --> 00:36:45,537
did he shoot at the
people in the field?
631
00:36:52,311 --> 00:36:53,412
What happened?
632
00:36:58,817 --> 00:36:59,951
Nothing happened.
633
00:36:59,985 --> 00:37:01,487
I didn't murder him.
634
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,162
The one thing that
continues to bother me
635
00:37:11,196 --> 00:37:15,100
is Francisco Salazar
taking Ron down.
636
00:37:15,133 --> 00:37:17,503
He's such a little man.
637
00:37:17,536 --> 00:37:20,606
According to the
state's case, a 5 foot 9,
638
00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:23,208
170-pound Francisco ran
bloody and screaming
639
00:37:23,241 --> 00:37:28,747
toward Ron Templeton, who's 6
foot 1, 210 pounds, and armed.
640
00:37:28,780 --> 00:37:32,384
Anyone who knew Ron knew
what an expert hunter he was.
641
00:37:32,418 --> 00:37:35,387
He was an expert shot, too.
642
00:37:35,421 --> 00:37:36,888
He never missed.
643
00:37:36,922 --> 00:37:40,392
I mean, one shot is all it
took to ever kill an animal.
644
00:37:40,426 --> 00:37:43,529
And for him to miss that
many times that close up--
645
00:37:43,562 --> 00:37:45,297
impossible to even imagine.
646
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:06,518
This is where they
found Templeton's truck.
647
00:38:06,552 --> 00:38:09,321
The blood trail that went
off into the wash, then
648
00:38:09,355 --> 00:38:10,756
disappeared.
649
00:38:10,789 --> 00:38:13,725
We never found Ron
Templeton's body.
650
00:38:13,759 --> 00:38:17,329
His wife,
Eileen, will never get
651
00:38:17,363 --> 00:38:19,798
the closure that she deserves.
652
00:38:33,845 --> 00:38:34,680
Sorry.
653
00:38:43,121 --> 00:38:45,791
57 people died here.
654
00:38:45,824 --> 00:38:50,061
And the local newspaper
ran one obituary-- one
655
00:38:50,095 --> 00:38:52,330
white guy from Hinzman.
656
00:38:52,364 --> 00:38:54,232
Many times, I
lie awake at night,
657
00:38:54,265 --> 00:38:58,269
wishing Ron had taken out
Salazar right then and there.
658
00:38:58,303 --> 00:39:00,105
People
tell me not to ask
659
00:39:00,138 --> 00:39:02,441
questions and keep quiet.
660
00:39:02,474 --> 00:39:04,209
And then I think,
are they lying to me?
661
00:39:04,242 --> 00:39:06,378
Are they trying to
make me feel this
662
00:39:06,412 --> 00:39:08,514
is the way it happened,
just to make me be quiet
663
00:39:08,547 --> 00:39:12,150
and not question?
664
00:39:12,183 --> 00:39:14,119
We've lived in
this town forever.
665
00:39:14,152 --> 00:39:15,787
Would they be lying to me?
666
00:39:32,103 --> 00:39:34,773
Salazar runs until he
reaches the edge of town.
667
00:39:44,382 --> 00:39:46,618
You've got Danny Montez dead.
668
00:39:46,652 --> 00:39:48,554
11 more in the field.
669
00:39:48,587 --> 00:39:49,855
That still leaves 45.
670
00:40:11,309 --> 00:40:13,178
At this time,
it's about 8:00 PM.
671
00:40:23,822 --> 00:40:28,794
The more he runs, the
clearer it becomes--
672
00:40:28,827 --> 00:40:33,665
he's not outrunning anything.
673
00:40:33,699 --> 00:40:35,300
Francisco, when you got
674
00:40:35,333 --> 00:40:39,104
into town, what did you see?
675
00:40:39,137 --> 00:40:44,543
What did it look like?
676
00:40:44,576 --> 00:40:47,646
It was-- it was like hell.
677
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,456
People were running.
678
00:40:58,490 --> 00:41:00,559
People were hurting each other.
679
00:41:26,852 --> 00:41:31,089
At this point, it's 8:15 PM.
680
00:41:31,122 --> 00:41:33,291
Francisco's making
his way through town,
681
00:41:33,324 --> 00:41:36,061
trying to stay alive.
682
00:41:36,094 --> 00:41:38,597
By his own account,
he has no weapon
683
00:41:38,630 --> 00:41:42,067
at this point, just his camera.
684
00:41:48,406 --> 00:41:51,710
The amazing thing
about being a photographer
685
00:41:51,743 --> 00:41:54,813
is, so long as you
are behind that lens,
686
00:41:54,846 --> 00:41:57,048
so long as you are
shooting through that lens,
687
00:41:57,082 --> 00:41:58,684
you are indestructible.
688
00:41:58,717 --> 00:42:01,587
Every photographer I
know feels the same way.
689
00:42:01,620 --> 00:42:04,956
While you're shooting,
you can't be hurt.
690
00:42:04,990 --> 00:42:07,893
I have a stultifying
fear of heights.
691
00:42:07,926 --> 00:42:10,295
I-- just looking out
of an upstairs window
692
00:42:10,328 --> 00:42:11,763
scares the hell out of me.
693
00:42:11,797 --> 00:42:13,999
In 'Nam, I used to
spend half of my time
694
00:42:14,032 --> 00:42:16,201
hanging out of an
open helicopter door,
695
00:42:16,234 --> 00:42:19,004
hanging onto a strap I
wouldn't use as a belt,
696
00:42:19,037 --> 00:42:22,073
and shooting away, because
nothing could hurt me.
697
00:42:22,107 --> 00:42:24,309
As long as I had that
camera in front of my face,
698
00:42:24,342 --> 00:42:25,276
nothing could hurt me.
699
00:42:41,727 --> 00:42:43,261
You basically
have an illegal
700
00:42:43,294 --> 00:42:47,666
who's running amok all over
Savageland, killing at random.
701
00:42:47,699 --> 00:42:49,601
At this point,
the prosecution case
702
00:42:49,635 --> 00:42:51,169
starts to get a little shaky.
703
00:42:51,202 --> 00:42:53,805
Salazar would've said
something to my grandpa
704
00:42:53,839 --> 00:42:55,340
and stuff would've went down.
705
00:42:55,373 --> 00:42:57,909
My grandpa's not going to
go down without a fight.
706
00:42:57,943 --> 00:43:01,212
The autopsy certificates would
have you believe that Salazar
707
00:43:01,246 --> 00:43:05,416
was sprinting through
town, dispatching victims
708
00:43:05,450 --> 00:43:08,820
with a machete and
pickax like he was
709
00:43:08,854 --> 00:43:11,923
some kind of trained killer.
710
00:43:11,957 --> 00:43:15,727
Salazar knew every
square inch of that town.
711
00:43:15,761 --> 00:43:17,863
That's why he was able
to move so quickly
712
00:43:17,896 --> 00:43:24,402
and kill without anybody
realizing what was happening.
713
00:43:24,435 --> 00:43:29,574
SDC is not a big place.
714
00:43:29,607 --> 00:43:32,744
Salazar was in good shape.
715
00:43:32,778 --> 00:43:34,412
If he were quick
enough, he could've
716
00:43:34,445 --> 00:43:36,748
covered all that ground.
717
00:43:36,782 --> 00:43:38,884
And he did not want to
leave any witnesses.
718
00:43:47,358 --> 00:43:49,394
What's most amazing
about these photographs
719
00:43:49,427 --> 00:43:52,530
is the fact that he got
as many decent photographs
720
00:43:52,563 --> 00:43:54,165
as he did out of one roll.
721
00:43:54,199 --> 00:43:56,735
I mean, I can't imagine why
he would go with one roll.
722
00:43:56,768 --> 00:43:58,503
I have a feeling he
probably had more
723
00:43:58,536 --> 00:44:02,874
that he lost along the way,
because I've done that myself.
724
00:44:06,712 --> 00:44:09,147
One roll of film
and 36 exposures,
725
00:44:09,180 --> 00:44:12,718
and caught as many
perfect shots as he did.
726
00:44:12,751 --> 00:44:17,322
It is either brilliant
film work or one
727
00:44:17,355 --> 00:44:20,358
of the greatest accidents in
the history of photography.
728
00:44:25,764 --> 00:44:27,532
We
know that Salazar gets
729
00:44:27,565 --> 00:44:30,068
here to the one store in town.
730
00:44:30,101 --> 00:44:32,003
It's a little way out
of the rest of his route
731
00:44:32,037 --> 00:44:33,705
based on the photographs.
732
00:44:33,739 --> 00:44:39,244
But we do know this market
had a working landline.
733
00:44:39,277 --> 00:44:42,948
But if that's what he was going
for, he was shit out of luck.
734
00:44:48,086 --> 00:44:51,522
If you were in New York
City and not Sangre de Cristo,
735
00:44:51,556 --> 00:44:54,525
you would probably
have 15,000 shots
736
00:44:54,559 --> 00:44:55,894
of what happened
there that evening
737
00:44:55,927 --> 00:44:57,195
on people's cell phones.
738
00:44:57,228 --> 00:44:59,965
Most people in SDC
didn't have cell phones.
739
00:44:59,998 --> 00:45:02,133
They had phone cards.
740
00:45:02,167 --> 00:45:04,135
Once a month, they'd
come to the market,
741
00:45:04,169 --> 00:45:07,806
buy one, call home to
Mexico, say hi to mom,
742
00:45:07,839 --> 00:45:11,009
confirm the wire
transfer back home.
743
00:45:11,042 --> 00:45:14,712
You can't take a picture
with a phone card.
744
00:45:14,746 --> 00:45:19,384
We're talking about
a place where life was cheap.
745
00:45:19,417 --> 00:45:24,389
Illegals arriving illegally,
doing illegal things.
746
00:45:24,422 --> 00:45:26,691
People ask me, well, why
didn't the people of SDC
747
00:45:26,724 --> 00:45:27,893
call the police?
748
00:45:27,926 --> 00:45:29,294
Immigrants don't call police.
749
00:45:29,327 --> 00:45:31,329
And when you live
in SDC, the police
750
00:45:31,362 --> 00:45:33,731
are just another element,
another criminal element
751
00:45:33,765 --> 00:45:34,800
to them.
752
00:45:51,316 --> 00:45:53,718
Salazar was also
charged with murders that
753
00:45:53,751 --> 00:45:55,787
happened at the water-tower.
754
00:45:55,821 --> 00:45:57,755
But there's not a
single piece of evidence
755
00:45:57,789 --> 00:46:00,558
to indicate that
Salazar was ever there.
756
00:46:00,591 --> 00:46:02,961
And remember
those people we found,
757
00:46:02,994 --> 00:46:05,864
you know, right next to
the small water-tower.
758
00:46:05,897 --> 00:46:07,498
We know that they ran.
759
00:46:07,532 --> 00:46:10,869
We know that they ran up to
the top of that water-tower.
760
00:46:10,902 --> 00:46:15,273
And instead of confronting
whatever was chasing them,
761
00:46:15,306 --> 00:46:17,075
they chose to jump
off the water-tower.
762
00:46:17,108 --> 00:46:19,377
Now that just doesn't happen
when you have an individual.
763
00:46:19,410 --> 00:46:21,779
I don't care how horrible
that individual is.
764
00:46:21,813 --> 00:46:23,081
That doesn't happen.
765
00:46:23,114 --> 00:46:25,650
Eight people supposedly
ran up there, trying
766
00:46:25,683 --> 00:46:29,087
to get away from one man?
767
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:30,822
But instead of
trying to fight him
768
00:46:30,856 --> 00:46:34,725
off on a single fire
escape, these eight people
769
00:46:34,759 --> 00:46:36,527
chose to jump.
770
00:46:36,561 --> 00:46:39,664
They'd rather kill
themselves and their families
771
00:46:39,697 --> 00:46:42,133
instead of fight him?
772
00:46:42,167 --> 00:46:48,273
They told
me that Jose and his family
773
00:46:48,306 --> 00:46:53,211
were some of the ones
who died at that tower.
774
00:46:53,244 --> 00:46:58,984
And it was only two
blocks from their house.
775
00:46:59,017 --> 00:47:04,890
I mean, I look at
his picture and--
776
00:47:04,923 --> 00:47:07,592
Maria had such a
strong sense of faith--
777
00:47:07,625 --> 00:47:09,527
a really strong sense of faith.
778
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:10,595
I don't have that faith.
779
00:47:10,628 --> 00:47:11,897
I just don't have that faith.
780
00:47:11,930 --> 00:47:13,398
And-- and it-- and it
hurts me, you know,
781
00:47:13,431 --> 00:47:18,203
because I'm-- I'm
more angry about that.
782
00:47:18,236 --> 00:47:21,206
I can't imagine why the two of them
783
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,642
would-- would do
something like that.
784
00:47:24,675 --> 00:47:29,647
I just-- they had to climb that.
785
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:36,922
If you think about them
standing there at that moment,
786
00:47:36,955 --> 00:47:38,289
and then making that decision.
787
00:47:43,694 --> 00:47:46,697
Salazar was never closer than
three blocks to that tower
788
00:47:46,731 --> 00:47:48,033
that night.
789
00:47:48,066 --> 00:47:51,369
The truth is, he had a
different route in mind.
790
00:47:59,510 --> 00:48:03,614
From the start, he was
always heading here.
791
00:48:03,648 --> 00:48:05,816
That's what he says.
792
00:48:05,850 --> 00:48:07,552
It's the church.
793
00:48:07,585 --> 00:48:14,125
The church mission
for the Putnam family.
794
00:48:14,159 --> 00:48:16,261
As for the Putnams,
well, Francisco had been
795
00:48:16,294 --> 00:48:17,862
working for them for years.
796
00:48:17,895 --> 00:48:19,030
He was almost a friend.
797
00:48:19,064 --> 00:48:20,531
You know, they--
they trusted him.
798
00:48:20,565 --> 00:48:24,069
They gave him a key, you
know, to the building.
799
00:48:24,102 --> 00:48:26,204
And yet, when I look
at the crime scene,
800
00:48:26,237 --> 00:48:28,173
doors have been ripped
off their hinges.
801
00:48:28,206 --> 00:48:30,675
Now why would Francisco rip
the doors off the hinges
802
00:48:30,708 --> 00:48:33,344
when he had a key?
803
00:48:33,378 --> 00:48:35,480
What was going through your mind
804
00:48:35,513 --> 00:48:36,381
when you saw this?
805
00:48:44,722 --> 00:48:46,057
I don't know.
806
00:48:46,091 --> 00:48:49,294
I just wanted to
help my friends.
807
00:48:49,327 --> 00:48:51,762
You worked for a Dwayne and Judith Putnam,
808
00:48:51,796 --> 00:48:52,697
didn't you?
809
00:48:58,403 --> 00:49:01,172
Yes.
810
00:49:01,206 --> 00:49:03,141
How did you feel about them?
811
00:49:04,442 --> 00:49:06,277
They were good people.
812
00:49:14,585 --> 00:49:17,788
The Putnams were here
to convert the old church
813
00:49:17,822 --> 00:49:19,024
and mission offices.
814
00:49:19,057 --> 00:49:21,359
They basically
started a new ministry
815
00:49:21,392 --> 00:49:24,729
in a town other religious
groups had long since abandoned.
816
00:49:30,668 --> 00:49:33,271
We're proud of our church's missionary history.
817
00:49:33,304 --> 00:49:36,374
God's mission for us is to go
forth to the less fortunate
818
00:49:36,407 --> 00:49:40,245
and bear witness to His word.
819
00:49:40,278 --> 00:49:42,280
The Putnams were
some of my closest,
820
00:49:42,313 --> 00:49:46,751
dearest friends in the
world-- truly people of God.
821
00:49:46,784 --> 00:49:49,620
Dwayne and Judith's engagement
was sanctioned by our church
822
00:49:49,654 --> 00:49:51,556
with great excitement.
823
00:49:51,589 --> 00:49:54,925
Even though she wasn't baptized
in a church at the time,
824
00:49:54,959 --> 00:49:58,729
we knew in her heart
she'd always believed.
825
00:49:58,763 --> 00:50:00,498
She had great strength.
826
00:50:07,838 --> 00:50:10,175
They were my friends.
827
00:50:10,208 --> 00:50:11,976
Salazar had spent
the summer working
828
00:50:12,009 --> 00:50:15,380
as a handyman on the
mission, doing odd jobs,
829
00:50:15,413 --> 00:50:18,483
running errands for Judith,
hanging out with the two kids.
830
00:50:34,499 --> 00:50:37,935
The Putnams went to that
town to fix up that facility,
831
00:50:37,968 --> 00:50:40,971
to empower those people.
832
00:50:41,005 --> 00:50:43,408
This family reached
out to Salazar,
833
00:50:43,441 --> 00:50:45,376
and this is how he repaid them?
834
00:51:01,159 --> 00:51:03,128
But Salazar was too late.
835
00:51:08,299 --> 00:51:10,235
Grace is gone.
836
00:51:10,268 --> 00:51:13,904
Where is Grace?
837
00:51:13,938 --> 00:51:20,278
Grace is gone.
838
00:51:20,311 --> 00:51:24,182
Don't you judge me.
839
00:51:24,215 --> 00:51:31,021
Only God can judge me.
840
00:51:31,055 --> 00:51:35,926
Only He knows what I'm seeing.
841
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:40,731
Only He knows this abomination.
842
00:51:44,001 --> 00:51:46,937
I am Abraham.
843
00:51:46,971 --> 00:51:49,440
A burnt--
844
00:52:07,392 --> 00:52:11,729
My lambs, my little lamb.
845
00:53:02,247 --> 00:53:04,815
What'd you wish for, Grace?
846
00:53:04,849 --> 00:53:07,184
I get little.
847
00:53:07,218 --> 00:53:09,320
All right, birthday girl first.
848
00:53:16,961 --> 00:53:21,966
When I got there, I
knew that I was too late.
849
00:53:25,636 --> 00:53:27,372
Where are their bodies?
850
00:53:37,582 --> 00:53:39,884
In the official version,
851
00:53:39,917 --> 00:53:42,987
forensics, coupled with
the Putnam phone recording,
852
00:53:43,020 --> 00:53:46,324
led the police to conclude
that Putnam killed his wife
853
00:53:46,357 --> 00:53:49,827
and son before killing himself.
854
00:53:49,860 --> 00:53:52,897
Now Putnam panicked at
seeing Salazar running wild
855
00:53:52,930 --> 00:53:57,101
and snapped when he heard the
screams outside the mission.
856
00:53:57,134 --> 00:54:00,305
So he killed his
family with a machete
857
00:54:00,338 --> 00:54:03,073
before turning it on himself.
858
00:54:03,107 --> 00:54:06,844
That's Parano's version.
859
00:54:06,877 --> 00:54:09,414
Were they still alive when you got there?
860
00:54:15,786 --> 00:54:16,654
Only one of them.
861
00:54:24,395 --> 00:54:26,931
But the official logic doesn't hold up.
862
00:54:26,964 --> 00:54:30,034
Putnam wanted to give his
family a mercy killing so they
863
00:54:30,067 --> 00:54:31,336
could all go up clean to Jesus.
864
00:54:31,369 --> 00:54:32,503
That's one thing.
865
00:54:32,537 --> 00:54:35,606
But why dismember
his little kids?
866
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,343
Yeah, we had dogs searching
867
00:54:38,376 --> 00:54:40,345
for the other remains.
868
00:54:40,378 --> 00:54:44,214
We found nothing, or
Salazar won't be telling
869
00:54:44,248 --> 00:54:47,685
us where he buried the bodies.
870
00:54:47,718 --> 00:54:54,224
Dwayne Putnam thought
he was a man of God.
871
00:54:54,258 --> 00:54:57,428
But he made the wrong choice.
872
00:54:57,462 --> 00:54:59,630
For a pastor, a man of the Bible,
873
00:54:59,664 --> 00:55:01,999
it must be hard to
see these photos.
874
00:55:02,032 --> 00:55:08,138
They show what you might call
a inconvenient resurrection.
875
00:55:08,172 --> 00:55:14,412
The only thing he
can do is deny it.
876
00:55:14,445 --> 00:55:16,246
God saw what Dwayne did.
877
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:20,084
He was a murderer and a suicide.
878
00:55:20,117 --> 00:55:23,087
OK, both of you.
879
00:55:24,655 --> 00:55:27,825
Ah, say hi to mommy.
880
00:55:27,858 --> 00:55:28,759
Hi!
881
00:55:28,793 --> 00:55:29,594
Hi, mommy.
882
00:55:29,627 --> 00:55:30,728
Run!
883
00:55:30,761 --> 00:55:31,762
Uh-oh.
884
00:55:31,796 --> 00:55:32,630
Ah!
885
00:55:38,436 --> 00:55:42,940
Where was Grace Putnam?
886
00:55:42,973 --> 00:55:46,076
She wasn't there.
887
00:55:46,110 --> 00:55:50,448
Where was she?
888
00:55:50,481 --> 00:55:53,684
If Grace wasn't
at the mission--
889
00:55:54,519 --> 00:55:57,655
She was at school.
890
00:55:57,688 --> 00:56:00,024
The school is on
the outskirts of town.
891
00:56:00,057 --> 00:56:03,728
And Salazar still
has a distance to go,
892
00:56:03,761 --> 00:56:06,731
through the most densely
populated area of town, where
893
00:56:06,764 --> 00:56:08,433
most of the bodies were found.
894
00:56:08,466 --> 00:56:10,034
Most of the killings
895
00:56:10,067 --> 00:56:14,839
occurred on the street or just
inside the entrances to homes.
896
00:56:14,872 --> 00:56:17,107
People rushed out to
see what was happening,
897
00:56:17,141 --> 00:56:19,710
to protect their families.
898
00:56:19,744 --> 00:56:21,812
I mean, if this
bullshit story were true,
899
00:56:21,846 --> 00:56:28,352
why didn't Salazar put down his
camera and help those people?
900
00:56:28,385 --> 00:56:30,020
Salazar was a handyman.
901
00:56:30,054 --> 00:56:32,923
He had keys for vacant
buildings all over town.
902
00:56:32,957 --> 00:56:35,560
He could cut through building
to building from one end of town
903
00:56:35,593 --> 00:56:39,029
to the other, hide, look out.
904
00:56:39,063 --> 00:56:40,631
Look,
most of the time,
905
00:56:40,665 --> 00:56:43,668
he probably wasn't even
close to the action.
906
00:56:43,701 --> 00:56:46,571
I mean, a 70 to 200
millimeter lens pulls
907
00:56:46,604 --> 00:56:48,338
in all sorts of distant detail.
908
00:56:48,372 --> 00:56:53,511
You know, sometimes,
you get nothing.
909
00:56:53,544 --> 00:56:55,846
Sometimes, you get
something extraordinary.
910
00:57:06,356 --> 00:57:08,793
Why did Francisco
take the photos?
911
00:57:08,826 --> 00:57:13,564
The better question is, why not?
912
00:57:13,598 --> 00:57:17,201
You are capturing
moments of time that
913
00:57:17,234 --> 00:57:20,237
you are the only person--
it's-- it's a moral imperative,
914
00:57:20,270 --> 00:57:21,071
almost.
915
00:57:25,543 --> 00:57:26,844
You're the person
with the camera.
916
00:57:26,877 --> 00:57:28,879
You're the only person
there with that option.
917
00:57:28,913 --> 00:57:30,981
You take the pictures
because you must,
918
00:57:31,015 --> 00:57:35,586
because somebody has
to take those pictures.
919
00:57:35,620 --> 00:57:38,422
Salazar makes his
way down Main Street
920
00:57:38,455 --> 00:57:39,990
and gets to the preschool.
921
00:57:51,869 --> 00:57:55,372
All the children of the
people who died in that field,
922
00:57:55,405 --> 00:57:57,174
they were in that preschool.
923
00:58:12,990 --> 00:58:16,326
That's the thing that
messed with me the most-- what
924
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:17,962
happened at that preschool.
925
00:58:17,995 --> 00:58:20,531
Well, we're not
the same as they are.
926
00:58:20,565 --> 00:58:25,970
We don't kill babies.
927
00:58:37,748 --> 00:58:39,817
There's almost nothing that you could
928
00:58:39,850 --> 00:58:43,220
say to change people's minds.
929
00:58:43,253 --> 00:58:51,161
Even planting the
possibility, the idea that you
930
00:58:51,195 --> 00:58:57,668
hurt or killed children.
931
00:58:57,702 --> 00:58:58,836
Went to the school.
932
00:59:08,779 --> 00:59:11,782
When I got there, there was--
933
00:59:29,834 --> 00:59:32,770
There were nine kids in the preschool
934
00:59:32,803 --> 00:59:38,609
and one teacher, Lisa Reyes.
935
00:59:38,643 --> 00:59:43,447
Forensics indicated
that some of the kids had
936
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,583
hidden behind a-- a curtain.
937
00:59:46,617 --> 00:59:50,120
That's a child's natural
instinct to think,
938
00:59:50,154 --> 00:59:52,790
if they make
themselves invisible,
939
00:59:52,823 --> 00:59:55,592
they can save themselves
from the monster.
940
01:00:10,741 --> 01:00:13,377
When I came back,
I just-- like I said,
941
01:00:13,410 --> 01:00:14,912
I couldn't believe it.
942
01:00:14,945 --> 01:00:17,948
I didn't want to believe it.
943
01:00:17,982 --> 01:00:23,620
And to go to the funeral was
one of the hardest things.
944
01:00:26,556 --> 01:00:28,625
You know, it was
a closed casket.
945
01:00:28,659 --> 01:00:31,428
All the family was there.
946
01:00:31,461 --> 01:00:34,098
A lot of people wish that they
would have been able to see her
947
01:00:34,131 --> 01:00:36,901
before she-- you
know, I kind of,
948
01:00:36,934 --> 01:00:42,206
like, keep my own last
memory of-- I don't know.
949
01:00:42,239 --> 01:00:46,777
I wouldn't want to see
her in there anyways.
950
01:00:46,811 --> 01:00:49,246
I remember her the way I
remember her, you know?
951
01:00:49,279 --> 01:00:51,181
Linda Perez is my daughter.
952
01:00:51,215 --> 01:00:52,950
She was five years old.
953
01:00:52,983 --> 01:00:55,452
She lived with
her father in SDC.
954
01:00:55,485 --> 01:00:56,887
I worked in Hinzman.
955
01:00:56,921 --> 01:01:01,692
I hardly got to see her
because I worked long hours.
956
01:01:01,726 --> 01:01:09,566
She was wearing a-- a
purple top and pants
957
01:01:09,599 --> 01:01:11,368
and white tennis shoes.
958
01:01:11,401 --> 01:01:15,773
She was very picky about
what she wanted to wear.
959
01:01:15,806 --> 01:01:21,846
When I left, she was three.
960
01:01:21,879 --> 01:01:25,816
And I wasn't even nice to her.
961
01:01:25,850 --> 01:01:29,920
I could have been nicer to her.
962
01:01:29,954 --> 01:01:32,056
But she was always
bugging me, and I
963
01:01:32,089 --> 01:01:34,591
just-- I feel like an asshole.
964
01:01:34,624 --> 01:01:35,625
Benny.
965
01:01:35,659 --> 01:01:36,827
You wanna see him?
966
01:01:36,861 --> 01:01:38,562
He's right here.
967
01:01:38,595 --> 01:01:39,496
I mean, look at that.
968
01:01:39,529 --> 01:01:44,368
Look at that smile.
969
01:01:44,401 --> 01:01:48,438
You know, he was-- he was born
premature, and he was tiny.
970
01:01:48,472 --> 01:01:49,439
Tiny.
971
01:01:49,473 --> 01:01:51,075
He weighed 2 and 1/2 pounds.
972
01:01:51,108 --> 01:01:53,811
And you know, he
had some problems.
973
01:01:53,844 --> 01:01:56,246
He got pneumonia as a newborn.
974
01:01:56,280 --> 01:02:00,918
But he had a tough,
strong heart.
975
01:02:00,951 --> 01:02:03,120
I could have gone
home more, but you know,
976
01:02:03,153 --> 01:02:04,554
it was a piece of shit town.
977
01:02:04,588 --> 01:02:07,157
And I left when I could.
978
01:02:07,191 --> 01:02:09,659
And I was just hoping,
maybe, when she got older,
979
01:02:09,693 --> 01:02:11,929
we could make up for lost time.
980
01:02:11,962 --> 01:02:14,698
That's-- that's
all I was thinking.
981
01:02:14,731 --> 01:02:17,701
But now I don't have time.
982
01:02:17,734 --> 01:02:20,237
I took this from her school.
983
01:02:20,270 --> 01:02:22,739
This was the last
thing she was wearing.
984
01:02:27,878 --> 01:02:30,180
Grace is gone.
985
01:02:30,214 --> 01:02:32,783
Where is Grace?
986
01:02:32,817 --> 01:02:37,687
Grace is gone.
987
01:02:37,721 --> 01:02:40,290
I couldn't find her.
988
01:02:41,859 --> 01:02:43,660
By his own account,
Salazar couldn't even
989
01:02:43,693 --> 01:02:44,995
get inside the school.
990
01:02:45,029 --> 01:02:49,466
He scurried around the
back by the storeroom.
991
01:02:49,499 --> 01:02:53,904
The one aspect of that roll of
film that sort of fascinates me
992
01:02:53,938 --> 01:02:56,206
is why he spent so
much of the last
993
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,775
of it taking pictures
of that one subject,
994
01:02:58,809 --> 01:03:00,677
that-- that little girl.
995
01:03:00,710 --> 01:03:01,545
I wouldn't have.
996
01:03:10,754 --> 01:03:12,289
It's not what I would've
done, certainly.
997
01:03:12,322 --> 01:03:15,059
And I don't think most other
professional photographers
998
01:03:15,092 --> 01:03:16,193
would've done it either.
999
01:03:23,834 --> 01:03:27,737
She was on the other
side of the window.
1000
01:03:27,771 --> 01:03:33,043
She was reaching out.
1001
01:03:33,077 --> 01:03:35,379
I couldn't help her.
1002
01:03:35,412 --> 01:03:37,181
Based on my evaluation
1003
01:03:37,214 --> 01:03:40,550
of the other photographs, this
was the first time that Salazar
1004
01:03:40,584 --> 01:03:42,953
even used his flash unit.
1005
01:03:42,987 --> 01:03:44,521
The question is, why now?
1006
01:03:51,395 --> 01:03:58,969
I tried to stop
them with the flash.
1007
01:03:59,970 --> 01:04:04,508
With the camera?
1008
01:04:04,541 --> 01:04:05,442
Did it help?
1009
01:04:16,286 --> 01:04:20,891
Did it stop them
for a little while?
1010
01:04:20,925 --> 01:04:25,462
Only when-- only
when it flashed.
1011
01:04:25,495 --> 01:04:27,164
Those
last photographs--
1012
01:04:27,197 --> 01:04:29,333
there's the one where he's
reaching through the bars,
1013
01:04:29,366 --> 01:04:33,070
where he is trying to
take the girl's hand
1014
01:04:33,103 --> 01:04:38,075
and suddenly he stops
being a historian,
1015
01:04:38,108 --> 01:04:43,347
stops being an observer, and
becomes an active participant.
1016
01:04:43,380 --> 01:04:46,650
The moment he stopped
being a photographer
1017
01:04:46,683 --> 01:04:53,757
and decided to do a single human
action to save somebody else--
1018
01:04:53,790 --> 01:04:56,026
I just held her hand.
1019
01:04:56,060 --> 01:04:59,463
--is the moment that
changed everything for him.
1020
01:04:59,496 --> 01:05:02,466
You give up being a photographer
to become a human being.
1021
01:05:02,499 --> 01:05:06,570
And you lose what has kept you
alive and safe through the rest
1022
01:05:06,603 --> 01:05:09,173
of the process.
1023
01:05:09,206 --> 01:05:11,608
I just held her hand.
1024
01:05:11,641 --> 01:05:14,844
And I sang.
1025
01:05:57,921 --> 01:05:59,956
He was planning
this all along.
1026
01:06:05,162 --> 01:06:07,631
There's only
three possibilities.
1027
01:06:07,664 --> 01:06:13,403
Either he's lying, he's crazy,
or he's telling the truth.
1028
01:06:13,437 --> 01:06:16,873
And in my professional
opinion, he's not lying
1029
01:06:16,906 --> 01:06:18,975
and he's not crazy.
1030
01:06:35,059 --> 01:06:39,096
Salazar had his shot in court.
1031
01:06:39,129 --> 01:06:41,265
We're appealing.
1032
01:06:41,298 --> 01:06:43,967
That's all we can
do at this point.
1033
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:45,735
It's in the hands of
the criminal justice
1034
01:06:45,769 --> 01:06:51,175
system of the state of Arizona.
1035
01:06:51,208 --> 01:06:52,742
You know, I'm going to be glad
1036
01:06:52,776 --> 01:06:54,944
when this appeal goes
nowhere so this town can
1037
01:06:54,978 --> 01:06:56,413
start going somewhere again.
1038
01:07:07,724 --> 01:07:10,194
You know, if you'd been a reporter like me
1039
01:07:10,227 --> 01:07:13,230
in an inner city,
you've seen murders.
1040
01:07:13,263 --> 01:07:15,232
I mean, you've seen
murders of every type.
1041
01:07:15,265 --> 01:07:18,368
I can tell you in a
second, gangland shot,
1042
01:07:18,402 --> 01:07:20,670
you know, personal shot,
in terms of, you know,
1043
01:07:20,704 --> 01:07:22,439
two different people
who know each other.
1044
01:07:22,472 --> 01:07:24,741
I can tell you
how a person died.
1045
01:07:24,774 --> 01:07:29,579
Murders have signatures.
1046
01:07:29,613 --> 01:07:33,850
So who had the resources, the
weapons, the political will,
1047
01:07:33,883 --> 01:07:38,054
the anger, the motive to carry
out the single-night massacre
1048
01:07:38,088 --> 01:07:40,056
of an entire town?
1049
01:07:40,090 --> 01:07:44,994
It's a familiar story we've seen
played out time and time again.
1050
01:07:45,028 --> 01:07:46,130
It's not smoke and mirrors.
1051
01:07:46,163 --> 01:07:51,635
It's desert, sand,
hate, and fear.
1052
01:07:55,772 --> 01:08:00,344
Nat Turner, the Scottsboro
Boys, the Tulsa race riots,
1053
01:08:00,377 --> 01:08:03,513
Zoot Suit Riots,
Camp Grant Massacre,
1054
01:08:03,547 --> 01:08:06,283
Operation Wetback, Rodney King.
1055
01:08:17,961 --> 01:08:18,828
Sangre de Cristo.
1056
01:08:38,182 --> 01:08:40,417
This is the community that we are.
1057
01:08:40,450 --> 01:08:44,921
We do take an eye for an eye,
because not only is that fair,
1058
01:08:44,954 --> 01:08:47,457
that's our God-given right.
1059
01:08:47,491 --> 01:08:51,127
And we will be watching the
border for all future Salazars.
1060
01:08:51,161 --> 01:09:00,170
God bless America, my home, sweet home.
1061
01:09:01,037 --> 01:09:03,173
They don't care who you are.
1062
01:09:03,207 --> 01:09:07,444
They don't care what you do.
1063
01:09:07,477 --> 01:09:10,580
They'd basically
rather shoot you
1064
01:09:10,614 --> 01:09:15,885
than-- than give you a dollar.
1065
01:09:15,919 --> 01:09:18,688
The Great Wall of America
between us and Mexico, I
1066
01:09:18,722 --> 01:09:20,457
don't hear them trying
to build that wall
1067
01:09:20,490 --> 01:09:22,058
between here and Canada.
1068
01:09:22,091 --> 01:09:23,660
And they're not
saying somebody--
1069
01:09:23,693 --> 01:09:28,031
some Canuck is coming down and
killing people up in Michigan.
1070
01:09:28,064 --> 01:09:32,101
There's a lot more Salazars
out there-- more Ramirez,
1071
01:09:32,135 --> 01:09:35,305
more Sanchezes, more Carloses.
1072
01:09:35,339 --> 01:09:40,510
But make no mistake-- it's
a matter of when, not if.
1073
01:09:40,544 --> 01:09:44,714
Basically, there's 100,000
that try to come across,
1074
01:09:44,748 --> 01:09:48,418
and there's only maybe
1,000 border patrol.
1075
01:09:48,452 --> 01:09:50,420
They ain't going
to get everybody.
1076
01:10:02,932 --> 01:10:05,369
You know, maybe we've just got our priorities
1077
01:10:05,402 --> 01:10:08,972
right here in Arizona.
1078
01:10:09,005 --> 01:10:13,777
A lot of our people have been
waiting a long time for this.
1079
01:10:13,810 --> 01:10:16,380
I'm also proud that this
state is carrying out
1080
01:10:16,413 --> 01:10:19,249
Salazar's sentence in half
the time it took to do
1081
01:10:19,283 --> 01:10:20,784
the same to Timothy McVeigh.
1082
01:10:30,594 --> 01:10:33,963
At 12:05 AM Arizona time-- not bleeding
1083
01:10:33,997 --> 01:10:37,467
liberal time, not East
Coast wine and cheese
1084
01:10:37,501 --> 01:10:41,004
time, not West Coast
free drugs time--
1085
01:10:41,037 --> 01:10:43,873
American justice was served.
1086
01:10:43,907 --> 01:10:46,175
No more lawyers' appeals.
1087
01:10:46,209 --> 01:10:48,312
No more bills.
1088
01:10:48,345 --> 01:10:52,115
No more three
square meals a day.
1089
01:10:52,148 --> 01:10:54,584
No more excuses.
1090
01:10:54,618 --> 01:10:55,919
And no more fear, my friends.
1091
01:11:07,764 --> 01:11:11,267
Francisco was the only witness
to what happened that night.
1092
01:11:11,301 --> 01:11:13,970
And the court killed
his photographs.
1093
01:11:14,003 --> 01:11:15,839
And then the state killed him.
1094
01:11:45,935 --> 01:11:49,773
Do you know where Salazar gets buried?
1095
01:11:49,806 --> 01:11:54,411
He gets buried right here,
in the state of Arizona!
1096
01:11:54,444 --> 01:11:57,447
He must be pretty
pleased with himself.
1097
01:11:57,481 --> 01:12:01,885
He snuck in here, he hid
here, he killed here,
1098
01:12:01,918 --> 01:12:04,120
he's executed here.
1099
01:12:04,153 --> 01:12:07,391
But even in death, he manages
to avoid being deported.
1100
01:12:12,562 --> 01:12:14,230
Except they got it all wrong.
1101
01:12:14,263 --> 01:12:17,667
This doesn't end with the
execution of Francisco Salazar.
1102
01:12:17,701 --> 01:12:20,804
Francisco Salazar's photos don't
end with Francisco Salazar.
1103
01:12:26,042 --> 01:12:27,343
I wish I was there.
1104
01:12:27,377 --> 01:12:29,679
I wish I had been the
guy behind the camera.
1105
01:12:29,713 --> 01:12:32,015
Why did Francisco
take the photos?
1106
01:12:32,048 --> 01:12:33,583
I don't know.
1107
01:12:33,617 --> 01:12:35,552
Maybe he thought he was going
to die like everybody else.
1108
01:12:35,585 --> 01:12:37,120
Why the hell not?
1109
01:12:37,153 --> 01:12:38,688
At least leave something behind.
1110
01:12:38,722 --> 01:12:42,058
Leave some record behind so
he didn't die for nothing.
1111
01:12:42,091 --> 01:12:44,861
There's a piece of history left.
1112
01:12:44,894 --> 01:12:49,999
And if you're going to go out,
go out with something of value.
1113
01:12:50,033 --> 01:12:51,501
Do something.
1114
01:12:51,535 --> 01:12:53,637
Make your death
count for something.
1115
01:12:59,476 --> 01:13:01,945
The photos show us the truth.
1116
01:13:01,978 --> 01:13:04,681
The truth is that I'm the
one who found the photos.
1117
01:13:04,714 --> 01:13:07,417
I'm the one who released them.
1118
01:13:07,451 --> 01:13:11,555
Ross found the truth,
but he couldn't see it.
1119
01:13:11,588 --> 01:13:13,923
He got scared.
1120
01:13:13,957 --> 01:13:19,529
I don't blame him.
1121
01:13:19,563 --> 01:13:22,566
As a journalist, I deal
in facts, not speculation.
1122
01:13:22,599 --> 01:13:25,635
And the facts are that Francisco
recorded whatever moved
1123
01:13:25,669 --> 01:13:26,970
through that town that night.
1124
01:13:27,003 --> 01:13:29,739
And that was the
only real evidence.
1125
01:13:29,773 --> 01:13:33,610
And the local will to
investigate was nonexistent.
1126
01:13:33,643 --> 01:13:35,612
So the photos exist in a vacuum.
1127
01:13:35,645 --> 01:13:37,046
I think a lot of people
1128
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,616
will sleep better at night
believing that they are
1129
01:13:39,649 --> 01:13:42,051
Photoshopped than believing
they are seeing something
1130
01:13:42,085 --> 01:13:43,553
that is actually happening.
1131
01:13:51,728 --> 01:13:57,000
There's no going back to normal.
1132
01:13:57,033 --> 01:14:04,273
Because normal
doesn't exist anymore.
1133
01:14:04,307 --> 01:14:09,746
There were no masks, no cartels,
no mob of illegals at night.
1134
01:14:09,779 --> 01:14:11,447
The photos do tell us something.
1135
01:14:11,481 --> 01:14:12,982
They're numbered.
1136
01:14:13,016 --> 01:14:15,585
Number one was taken
from the southern watch
1137
01:14:15,619 --> 01:14:22,025
in the foothills, number
36 at the schoolhouse.
1138
01:14:22,058 --> 01:14:25,228
When you look at the crime
scene, the police reports,
1139
01:14:25,261 --> 01:14:28,998
the layout of the town, you
realize that this carnage
1140
01:14:29,032 --> 01:14:30,834
wasn't random.
1141
01:14:30,867 --> 01:14:34,203
It was just so huge that nobody
could see the bigger picture.
1142
01:14:40,109 --> 01:14:43,680
They were always heading
in one direction.
1143
01:14:51,487 --> 01:14:52,956
They were heading north.
1144
01:15:05,101 --> 01:15:08,004
Have you ever actually
seen the border fence?
1145
01:15:08,037 --> 01:15:12,375
It's 20 feet high,
corrugated steel,
1146
01:15:12,408 --> 01:15:15,044
razor wire in some places.
1147
01:15:15,078 --> 01:15:18,014
Anyone with any
regard for human life
1148
01:15:18,047 --> 01:15:21,818
would stay the hell
away from that fence.
1149
01:15:21,851 --> 01:15:24,888
Do you own a gun?
1150
01:15:24,921 --> 01:15:26,089
I do.
1151
01:15:26,122 --> 01:15:27,857
And ever since that-- I've
seen these photographs,
1152
01:15:27,891 --> 01:15:29,826
I've been sleeping with
it under my pillow.
1153
01:15:34,564 --> 01:15:36,165
This is a cruel land
1154
01:15:36,199 --> 01:15:39,068
where death is a certainty.
1155
01:15:39,102 --> 01:15:40,103
We grow up with it.
1156
01:15:40,136 --> 01:15:41,204
We accept it.
1157
01:15:41,237 --> 01:15:42,906
You know what made my morning?
1158
01:15:42,939 --> 01:15:45,675
Hearing that some group
of unknown patriots
1159
01:15:45,709 --> 01:15:49,946
found where Salazar's
grave was and dug it up.
1160
01:15:49,979 --> 01:15:52,215
The body's gone, my friends.
1161
01:15:52,248 --> 01:15:53,149
And good riddance.
1162
01:16:33,522 --> 01:16:36,025
Seven weeks after Salazar's execution,
1163
01:16:36,059 --> 01:16:37,827
the mutilated remains
of two campers
1164
01:16:37,861 --> 01:16:41,798
were found in the Tonto
National Forest, 115 miles
1165
01:16:41,831 --> 01:16:46,870
north of Sangre de Cristo.
1166
01:16:46,903 --> 01:16:49,305
Five unexplained
deaths in Sitgreaves.
1167
01:16:49,338 --> 01:16:53,977
Multiple attacks in Ajo,
Callente, Willcox to the east.
1168
01:16:54,010 --> 01:16:57,981
Hilldale was the first
town in Utah-- 12 dead.
1169
01:16:58,014 --> 01:17:01,217
The same patterns
emerging east to Juarez.
1170
01:17:01,250 --> 01:17:06,022
Up into New Mexico in
Alamogordo, five dead.
1171
01:17:06,055 --> 01:17:10,193
In Trevino Ranch, three
dead, nine unaccounted.
1172
01:17:45,862 --> 01:17:47,931
the hell is this?
1173
01:17:47,953 --> 01:18:20,953
Farid Morocco
1173
01:18:21,305 --> 01:18:27,686
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