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>> John: HELLO THERE,
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AND WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
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AND LOOK, WE'RE GOING TO DO
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SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT
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TONIGHT.
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OUR WHOLE SHOW IS ACTUALLY GOING
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TO BE ABOUT ONE THING,
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AND YOU PROBABLY KNOW WHAT,
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AND YOU PROBABLY KNOW WHY.
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BECAUSE ALL WEEK LONG,
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PROTESTERS HAVE CONTINUED
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TO FILL THE STREETS IN ALL
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50 STATES IN THE WAKE OF
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THE HORRIFIC MURDER OF
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GEORGE FLOYD BY THE POLICE.
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AND IN RESPONSE TO THOSE
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PROTESTS -- WHICH HAVE BEEN
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A STIRRING PUSH BACK AGAINST
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INSTITUTIONAL RACISM AND
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BRUTALITY -- IT'S BEEN FRANKLY
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SICKENING TO SEE THEM MET WITH
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THIS.
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>> ACROSS THE COUNTRY, PEACEFUL
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PROTESTS HAVE TOO OFTEN DEVOLVED
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INTO STANDOFFS WITH HEAVILY
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ARMED POLICE USING
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MILITARY-STYLE TACTICS.
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FLASH BANGS, TEAR GAS,
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RUBBER BULLETS, HELICOPTERS,
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ARMORED VEHICLES.
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>> WE'RE OUT HERE PEACEFULLY
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PROTESTING.
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BUT THEY'RE ARMED LIKE THEY'RE
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GOING TO WAR.
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>> John: YEAH, THEY ARE.
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AND LOOK, IF POLICE ARE TRYING
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TO CONVINCE THE PUBLIC THEY'RE
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NOT GUILTY OF DISPLAYING
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EXCESSIVE FORCE, IT'S PROBABLY
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NOT A GOOD IDEA TO REPEATEDLY
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DISPLAY EXCESSIVE FORCE ON
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NATIONAL TELEVISION, INCLUDING
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IN THIS CITY, WHERE
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MAYOR DE BLASIO PRAISED THEM FOR
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THEIR "TREMENDOUS RESTRAINT,"
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AND GOVERNOR CUOMO THREATENED TO
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SEND IN THE NATIONAL GUARD.
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AND I WILL SAY: HAVING RECENTLY
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SAID THAT I COULDN'T WAIT TO GO
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BACK TO HATING ANDREW CUOMO
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AGAIN, I DIDN'T THINK THE
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OPPORTUNITY WOULD COME QUITE
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THIS SOON.
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AND THESE PROTESTS HAVE RECEIVED
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A GREAT DEAL OF SUPPORT, WITH
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MASSIVE MARCHES TAKING PLACE
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AROUND THE WORLD.
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AND THE PROTESTORS' MESSAGE HAS
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TAKEN MANY FORMS, FROM CHANTS,
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TO SIGNS, TO A MAN WHO CALLED IN
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TO AN L.A. POLICE COMMISSION
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MEETING, HELD OVER ZOOM.
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HE HAD BEEN GIVEN 30 SECONDS,
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WHICH HE USED WITH MAXIMUM
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EFFICIENCY TO DELIVER A MESSAGE
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FOR POLICE CHIEF MICHEL MOORE:
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>> I FIND IT DISGUSTING THAT
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THE LAPD IS SLAUGHTERING
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PEACEFUL PROTESTERS
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ON THE STREET.
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I HAD TWO FRIENDS GO TO THE
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PROTESTS IN BEVERLY HILLS
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A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, AND THE
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PROTEST WAS PEACEFUL UNTIL THE
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POLICE SHOWED UP WITH THEIR
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EXCESSIVE, VIOLENT FORCE,
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SHOOTING RUBBER BULLETS AND
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THROWING TEAR GAS.
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IS THIS WHAT YOU THINK IS
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PROTECTING AND SERVING?
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BECAUSE I THINK IT'S BULLSHIT.
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FUCK YOU, MICHEL MOORE!
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I REFUSE TO CALL YOU AN OFFICER
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OR A CHIEF BECAUSE YOU DON'T
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DESERVE THOSE TITLES.
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YOU ARE A DISGRACE.
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SUCK MY DICK AND CHOKE ON IT.
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I YIELD MY TIME.
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FUCK YOU!
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>> John: IF THE PRESIDENT IS
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TAKING NOTES, THAT IS WHAT
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A PERFECT CALL LOOKS LIKE.
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MY FAVORITE PART IS THAT, AFTER
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HE'S FINISHED UNLOADING ON THAT
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POLICE CHIEF, HE YIELDS HIS
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TIME, REALIZES HE STILL HAS
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A COUPLE OF SECONDS LEFT,
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SO UN-YIELDS IT, AND THROWS
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IN A BONUS "FUCK YOU."
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NOW AS FOR THE PRESIDENT
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HIMSELF,
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HE INITIALLY HID FROM THE
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PROTESTERS IN A BUNKER, LATER
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CLAIMING HE WASN'T HIDING, HE
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WAS ACTUALLY JUST "INSPECTING
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IT," THEN HIS ATTORNEY GENERAL
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HAD POLICE GAS PROTESTORS
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OUTSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE SO TRUMP
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COULD HAVE AN INEXPLICABLE PHOTO
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OP AT A NEARBY CHURCH, WHILE
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HOLDING UP A BIBLE LIKE IT'S
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THE TICKET FOR HIS SANDWICH
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ORDER THAT WAS JUST CALLED.
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HE ALSO, IN ANNOUNCING JOB
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NUMBERS ON FRIDAY, INVOKED
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GEORGE FLOYD'S NAME, SAYING,
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"THIS WAS A GREAT DAY FOR HIM,"
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WHICH IS UTTERLY FUCKING
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DISGUSTING.
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BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY NOT GOING TO
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FOCUS ON TRUMP TONIGHT.
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NOR ARE WE -- UNLIKE SOME IN
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CABLE NEWS -- GOING TO DWELL ON
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THE INCIDENTS OF LOOTING THAT
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OCCURRED, EXCEPT TO SAY: IF
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YOU'VE SAID THE NAME "MACY'S"
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MORE THAN YOU'VE SAID THE NAME
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"BREONNA TAYLOR" THIS WEEK, YOU
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CAN VERY MUCH FUCK OFF.
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LIKEWISE, IF YOU'RE ASKING WHY
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A SPONTANEOUS, DECENTRALIZED
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PROTEST CAN'T CONTROL EVERY ONE
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OF ITS PARTICIPANTS MORE THAN
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YOU'RE ASKING THE SAME ABOUT
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A TAXPAYER-FUNDED,
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HEAVILY-REGIMENTED,
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PAID WORKFORCE, YOU CAN ALSO,
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IN THE WORDS OF THIS
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GENERATION'S ROBERT FROST:
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SUCK MY DICK AND CHOKE ON IT,
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FUCK YOU.
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INSTEAD, TONIGHT, LET'S TALK
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ABOUT THE POLICE.
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BECAUSE ALL WEEK, WE'VE SEEN
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GRAPHIC VIDEOS -- WHICH ARE
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GOING TO BE HARD TO WATCH --
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OF THEM DRIVING DIRECTLY INTO
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CROWDS, BEATING PEOPLE WITH
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STICKS, AND SOMETIMES ASSAULTING
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THE RIGHT TO ASSEMBLE, WITH
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SHOCKING SPEED AND BARBARITY.
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>> PREMATURELY SHOOTING PEOPLE?
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PREMATURELY USING EXCESSIVE
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FORCE?
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GET YOUR SCARY ASS HOME
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SOMEWHERE.
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>> WHOA.
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>> OH, NO.
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>> [SCREAMING]
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>> WHAT THE FUCK?
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WHAT THE FUCK?
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WHAT THE FUCK?
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>> John: IT'S GENUINELY
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IMPOSSIBLE TO OVERSTATE HOW
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ENRAGING THAT IS.
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THEY'RE PROTESTING EXCESSIVE
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FORCE BY POLICE AND THE POLICE
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JUST START PEPPER SPRAYING THEM
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LIKE IT'S FUCKING SUNSCREEN.
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AND THAT'S JUST ONE OF HUNDREDS
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AND HUNDREDS OF VIDEOS.
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AND WE'RE TAPING THIS SATURDAY
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MORNING -- WHO KNOWS WHAT'LL
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HAVE HAPPENED BY SUNDAY NIGHT?
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MAYBE THEY'LL BE USING GRENADES,
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EVEN AS "THE NEW YORK TIMES"
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WEIGHS IN WITH AN OP-ED TITLED,
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"WHY WE NEED TO BRING HITLER
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BACK TO LIFE AS A ROBOT RIGHT
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NOW."
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THEY JUST THINK IT'S VALUABLE
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YOU READ THAT POINT OF VIEW.
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I MEAN, THEY DIDN'T, BUT THEY
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THINK THAT YOU REALLY SHOULD.
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AND LOOK, FOR ANY VIEWERS
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SITTING AT HOME, SHOCKED BY
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THE SCENES OF POLICE BRUTALITY,
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I GET IT.
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I'M WHITE, TOO.
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BUT IT'S WORTH REMEMBERING,
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THAT'S THE TIP OF A VERY LARGE
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ICEBERG.
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IT DIDN'T START THIS WEEK, OR
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WITH THIS PRESIDENT, AND IT
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ALWAYS DISPROPORTIONATELY FALLS
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ON BLACK COMMUNITIES.
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BECAUSE HERE ARE SOME HARD
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FACTS: IN MINNEAPOLIS, WHERE
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GEORGE FLOYD WAS MURDERED,
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POLICE USE FORCE AGAINST
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BLACK PEOPLE AT 7 TIMES THE RATE
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OF WHITES.
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BLACK AMERICANS ARE 2.5 TIMES
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MORE LIKELY THAN WHITES TO BE
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KILLED BY POLICE.
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AND ABOUT ONE AND EVERY THOUSAND
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BLACK MEN CAN EXPECT TO BE
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KILLED BY POLICE.
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IF YOU ARE BLACK IN AMERICA,
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I CAN'T EVEN BEGIN TO IMAGINE
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HOW SCARED, ANGRY, AND EXHAUSTED
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YOU MUST FEEL.
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NOT ONLY THIS WEEK,
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BUT CONSTANTLY.
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MEDICAL GROUPS SAY POLICE
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VIOLENCE AGAINST BLACK AND BROWN
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AMERICANS IS JUST ONE OF MANY
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PHYSICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL
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FACTORS THAT MAKE RACISM
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A SERIOUS PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE.
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AND LOOK: CLEARLY, THE POLICE
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ARE JUST ONE PART OF A MUCH
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LARGER SYSTEM OF RACIAL
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INEQUALITY.
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BUT FOR TONIGHT, WE ARE GOING
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TO FOCUS PRIMARILY ON THEM,
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AND TRY TO ADDRESS THREE BASIC
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QUESTIONS: HOW THE FUCK WE GOT
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TO THIS POINT, WHAT THE
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OBSTACLES TO REFORM HAVE BEEN,
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AND WHAT WE CAN DO GOING
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FORWARD.
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AND LET'S START BY ACKNOWLEDGING
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THE POLICE HAVE LONG ENJOYED
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AN EXALTED ROLE IN AMERICAN
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SOCIETY.
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IN POP CULTURE, THEY'RE THE
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HEROES OF BELOVED MOVIES AND
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TV SHOWS LIKE, "CRANKY GUN
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GRANDPA," AND "COCAINE COPS WHO
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FUCK," AND "MANIC BIGOT AND HIS
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ONE BLACK FRIEND."
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AMERICA LOVES NOTHING MORE THAN
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A RENEGADE COP WHO DOESN'T PLAY
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BY THE RULES.
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BUT, OF COURSE, THE REALITY OF
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POLICING IS -- AND HAS ALWAYS
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BEEN -- VERY DIFFERENT.
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AND IT MIGHT BE WORTH GOING
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THROUGH SOME OF THE HISTORY
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HERE, BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT TO
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UNDERSTAND HOW DEEPLY POLICING
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IN THIS COUNTRY IS ENTANGLED
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WITH WHITE SUPREMACY.
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AND I KNOW YOU MIGHT BE
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THINKING: WELL, JOIN THE CLUB,
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POLICING.
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THIS IS AMERICA.
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THE ONLY INSTITUTION NOT DEEPLY
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ENTANGLED WITH THE HISTORY OF
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WHITE SUPREMACY IS OLIVE GARDEN.
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AND THAT'S ONLY BECAUSE IT'S
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ALWAYS BEEN A POWERFUL SYMBOL OF
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WHITE INFERIORITY.
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BUT THE POLICE HAVE NOT JUST
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BEEN INCIDENTALLY TAINTED BY
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RACISM.
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FOR MUCH OF U.S. HISTORY,
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"LAW ENFORCEMENT" MEANT
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ENFORCING LAWS THAT WERE
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EXPLICITLY DESIGNED TO SUBJUGATE
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BLACK PEOPLE.
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SOME OF AMERICA'S FIRST
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LAW ENFORCEMENT UNITS WERE
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THE SLAVE PATROLS TASKED WITH
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CAPTURING AND RETURNING PEOPLE
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WHO'D ESCAPED FROM SLAVERY.
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AND WHEN SLAVERY ENDED,
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WHITE PEOPLE HAD NO INTENTION OF
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LETTING THAT BE THE END
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OF WHITE POWER.
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AS ONE ALABAMA PLANTER SAID IN
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THE WAKE OF EMANCIPATION:
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"WE HAVE THE POWER TO PASS
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STRINGENT POLICE LAWS TO GOVERN
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THE NEGROES -- THIS IS A
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BLESSING -- FOR THEY MUST BE
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CONTROLLED IN SOME WAY OR WHITE
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PEOPLE CANNOT LIVE AMONG THEM."
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AND I KNOW THAT'S UNCOMFORTABLE
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TO HEAR.
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IT'S CERTAINLY UNCOMFORTABLE
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FOR ME TO SAY.
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BUT IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOW
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WE GOT HERE, IT'S IMPORTANT TO
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REMEMBER THAT WE GOT HERE ON
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PURPOSE.
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NOW, FOR A CENTURY AFTER THAT,
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POLICE IN THE SOUTH WERE
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RESPONSIBLE FOR ENFORCING
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SEGREGATION, WHILE ALLOWING --
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AND SOMETIMES PARTICIPATING IN
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-- LYNCHINGS AND ANTI-BLACK
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TERRORISM.
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AND AS BLACK PEOPLE MIGRATED
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TO THE NORTH BY THE MILLIONS,
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THEY WERE MET THERE, YET AGAIN,
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BY BRUTALITY.
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AND ALL OF THIS -- COUPLED WITH
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THE CONTINUED DENIAL OF ECONOMIC
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AND HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES, NOT
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ALWAYS PARTICULARLY SUBTLE, BY
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THE WAY -- MEANT THAT, BY THE
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SUMMER OF 1967, THERE WERE A
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SERIES OF HIGH-PROFILE UPRISINGS
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AGAINST RACIAL INJUSTICE ACROSS
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THE UNITED STATES -- OR AS
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WHITE PEOPLE ACTUALLY DESCRIBE
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THAT EXACT TIME:
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>> THE SUMMER OF 1967.
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IT IS KNOWN AS THE
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"SUMMER OF LOVE."
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>> John: YEAH, IT IS.
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AND THAT'S A PRETTY BIG
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DISCONNECT.
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AND IT HONESTLY MAKES ME
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SLIGHTLY WORRY THAT WHAT'S
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HAPPENING RIGHT NOW WILL BE
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REMEMBERED BY WHITE HISTORIANS
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AS "THE SUMMER OF CHROMATICA."
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AND LOOK, THINGS DID NOT IMPROVE
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FROM THE '60s ONWARD.
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NIXON PLEDGED FEALTY TO
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LAW AND ORDER AND STARTED THE
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WAR ON DRUGS, WHICH REAGAN LATER
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TURBO-CHARGED, AND, BY THE TIME
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WE GOT TO THE '90s, A SCHOOL OF
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THOUGHT CALLED "BROKEN WINDOWS"
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OR "ZERO TOLERANCE" POLICING HAD
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STARTED TO TAKE ROOT, WHICH HELD
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THAT, IF MINOR CRIMES ARE LEFT
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UNATTENDED, IT WILL LEAD TO MORE
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SERIOUS CRIMES.
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THEREFORE, POLICE HAD BETTER
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CRACK DOWN ON THOSE MINOR
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OFFENSES.
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THAT FUELED THE SATURATION OF
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POLICE IN LOW-INCOME COMMUNITIES
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OF COLOR, AND GAVE WAY TO
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POLICIES LIKE STOP-AND-FRISK,
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WHICH ESSENTIALLY ALLOWED
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POLICE OFFICERS TO SEARCH PEOPLE
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AT RANDOM.
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AT THAT POLICY'S PEAK, IN 2011,
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OF THE NEARLY 700,000 STOPS
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RECORDED IN NEW YORK,
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THE VAST MAJORITY WERE OF BLACK
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AND LATINO PEOPLE.
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OR, TO PUT THAT ANOTHER WAY,
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THOSE POLICIES, TOO OFTEN,
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BASICALLY AMOUNTED TO THIS
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FUCKING BULLSHIT, JUST UNDER
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A DIFFERENT NAME.
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AND THAT SORT OF AGGRESSIVE
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POLICING WAS ACCOMPANIED BY
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CONSTANT CALLS TO INCREASE
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THE NUMBER OF POLICE OFFICERS
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ON THE STREETS.
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AND LET'S BE CLEAR: DEMOCRATS
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WERE VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN THAT,
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FROM BIG-CITY MAYORS ALL THE WAY
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ON UP TO THIS GUY:
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>> AN INITIATIVE TO PUT 100,000
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MORE POLICE OFFICERS ON THE
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STREET.
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>> MORE PRISONS, MORE
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PREVENTION, 100,000 MORE POLICE.
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>> 100,000 NEW POLICE IN
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COMMUNITIES OF ALL SIZES.
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>> WE NEED TO FINISH THE JOB OF
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PUTTING 100,000 MORE POLICE ON
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OUR STREETS.
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>> LAST FALL, CONGRESS SUPPORTED
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MY PLAN TO HIRE, IN ADDITION TO
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THE 100,000 COMMUNITY POLICE
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WE'VE ALREADY FUNDED, 50,000
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MORE, CONCENTRATED IN HIGH-CRIME
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NEIGHBORHOODS.
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>> John: YEAH, THANKS VERY MUCH,
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CONGRESS.
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100,000 POLICE OFFICERS ISN'T
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COOL.
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YOU KNOW WHAT'S COOL?
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MASSIVELY EXPANDING A BROKEN
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INSTITUTION TO SCORE CHEAP
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POLITICAL POINTS.
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AND IF YOU CAN DO THAT WHILE
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PLAYING THE SAXOPHONE, WELL,
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THAT JUST GETS EVEN COOLER.
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AND ALL THE WHILE, AS WE WERE
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CONTINUING TO BOOST FUNDING FOR
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POLICE AND GIVE THEM MORE
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AUTHORITY, WE WERE
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SIMULTANEOUSLY SLASHING SPENDING
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ON KEY SOCIAL SERVICES.
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THAT MEANT THAT, IN MANY
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COMMUNITIES, THE POLICE WERE
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THE ONLY ONES LEFT TO HANDLE
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ALMOST ANY ISSUE PEOPLE HAD.
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WHICH IS A REAL PROBLEM, AS THIS
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FORMER DALLAS POLICE CHIEF
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READILY ADMITS.
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>> WE'RE ASKING COPS TO DO TOO
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MUCH IN THIS COUNTRY.
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WE ARE.
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WE'RE JUST ASKING US TO DO
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TOO MUCH.
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EVERY SOCIETAL FAILURE, WE PUT
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IT OFF ON THE COPS TO SOLVE.
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NOT ENOUGH MENTAL HEALTH
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FUNDING, "LET THE COP HANDLE
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IT."
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NOT ENOUGH DRUG ADDICTION
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FUNDING, "LET'S GIVE IT TO THE
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COPS."
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HERE IN DALLAS, WE GOT A LOOSE
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DOG PROBLEM.
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"LET'S HAVE THE COPS CHASE LOOSE
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DOGS."
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>> John: AND YOU KNOW WHAT?
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HE'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
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WE ARE ASKING POLICE TO DO FAR
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TOO MUCH.
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THEY HAVE A MASSIVE ARRAY OF
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COMPLICATED DUTIES THAT, IN MANY
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CASES, THEY JUST AREN'T EQUIPPED
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TO HANDLE -- MAKING THEM VERY
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MUCH THE JARED KUSHNERS OF LOCAL
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OFFICIALS.
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WITHOUT, OF COURSE,
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THE EXPRESSION, COMPLEXION,
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AND GENERAL DEMEANOR OF
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A HAUNTED BABY.
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SO WHILE WE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY BE
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ANGRY AT THE POLICE RIGHT NOW,
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LET'S ALSO BE ANGRY AT
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THE SERIES OF CHOICES THAT
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LEFT THEM AS ESSENTIALLY
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THE ONLY PUBLIC RESOURCE
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IN SOME COMMUNITIES.
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AND ON TOP OF ALL OF THAT, WE'VE
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MADE THOSE BAD CHOICES EVEN MORE
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DANGEROUS IN RECENT YEARS
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BY NEEDLESSLY ARMING POLICE
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TO THE FUCKING TEETH.
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AS WE DISCUSSED SIX YEARS AGO,
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WE'VE ISSUED THE POLICE LITERAL
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MILITARY GRADE EQUIPMENT, SOME
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OF WHICH YOU HAVE SEEN USED TO
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CONTROL AND INTIMIDATE
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PROTESTORS THIS WEEK.
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AND IT'S FRANKLY NOT JUST THE
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HARDWARE THAT'S A PROBLEM HERE.
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BECAUSE A WHOLE SUB-INDUSTRY OF
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POLICE TRAINING HAS ALSO CROPPED
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UP TO REINFORCE THE MESSAGE THAT
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COPS ARE AT WAR.
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AND PERHAPS NO ONE TAKES THAT
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IDEA FURTHER THAN THIS GUY.
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>> ONCE YOU'VE MADE THE DECISION
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TO TAKE A HUMAN LIFE, YOU'RE A
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TRANSFORMED CREATURE, YOU'RE A
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PREDATOR.
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WHAT DOES A PREDATOR DO?
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THEY KILL.
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ONLY A KILLER CAN HUNT A KILLER.
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ARE YOU EMOTIONALLY,
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SPIRITUALLY, PSYCHOLOGICALLY
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PREPARED TO SNUFF OUT A HUMAN
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LIFE IN DEFENSE OF INNOCENT
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LIVES?
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IF YOU CAN'T MAKE THAT DECISION,
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YOU NEED TO FIND ANOTHER JOB.
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>> John: WOW.
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THE PROBLEM WITH TELLING SOMEONE
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THEY'RE A PREDATOR IS THAT IT
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PRIMES THEM TO SEE THE REST OF
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THE WORLD AS POTENTIAL PREY.
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OF COURSE COPS WHO WENT THROUGH
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THIS TRAINING COULD WIND UP ON
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EDGE.
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YOU WOULDN'T TRAIN A BARBER BY
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SAYING, "HERE ARE YOUR SCISSORS,
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SNIP LIKE THIS, AND OH, YEAH,
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THIS IS HOW TO PUNCTURE
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THE CAROTID ARTERY.
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NOW, YOU WON'T NEED TO USE THIS
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99% OF THE TIME, BUT IF YOU
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DON'T THINK YOU CAN MAKE THAT
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DECISION, YOU NEED TO FIND
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ANOTHER JOB."
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THAT GROSS MAN IS ACTUALLY
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CALLED DAVE GROSSMAN, AND HE
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CALLS HIMSELF AN EXPERT IN
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"KILLOLOGY," A TERM HE INVENTED,
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AND DEFINES AS THE SCHOLARLY
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STUDY OF THE DESTRUCTIVE ACT,
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JUST AS SEXOLOGY IS THE
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SCHOLARLY STUDY OF THE
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PROCREATIVE ACT.
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WHICH: UGH.
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AND ALSO: I'M PRETTY SURE THE
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FIRST LESSON IN SEXOLOGY IS
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"NEVER CALL SEX THE PROCREATIVE
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ACT, IF YOU WANT ANYONE TO
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PROCREATIVELY ACT WITH YOU EVER
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AGAIN."
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AND AS BATSHIT AS GROSSMAN IS,
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HE'S BY NO MEANS A FRINGE FIGURE
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IN POLICE CULTURE.
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HE'S ON THE ROAD GIVING
524
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TRAININGS 200 DAYS A YEAR.
525
00:13:45,289 --> 00:13:46,220
THE OFFICER WHO SHOT
526
00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,009
PHILANDO CASTILE HAD TAKEN
527
00:13:49,029 --> 00:13:50,149
A CLASS BASED ON GROSSMAN'S
528
00:13:50,169 --> 00:13:51,110
THEORIES.
529
00:13:51,129 --> 00:13:52,080
AND WHEN, IN THE WAKE OF THAT
530
00:13:52,100 --> 00:13:54,169
SHOOTING, THE MINNEAPOLIS MAYOR
531
00:13:54,190 --> 00:13:55,240
BANNED OFFICERS FROM
532
00:13:55,259 --> 00:13:57,120
PARTICIPATING IN WARRIOR-STYLE
533
00:13:57,139 --> 00:13:58,000
TRAINING, THE HEAD OF
534
00:13:58,019 --> 00:13:59,100
THE POLICE UNION THERE,
535
00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:00,159
BOB KROLL, ANNOUNCED PLANS
536
00:14:00,179 --> 00:14:02,179
TO DEFY THAT DECISION.
537
00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,100
>> IF THEY DEEM THAT THIS
538
00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,049
TRAINING IS IN VIOLATION AND
539
00:14:06,070 --> 00:14:07,129
THEY'RE ON THEIR OWN TIME AND
540
00:14:07,149 --> 00:14:09,230
THEY WANT TO ATTEND IT, I'M
541
00:14:09,250 --> 00:14:10,159
GONNA ENCOURAGE OFFICERS TO
542
00:14:10,179 --> 00:14:11,120
DO IT.
543
00:14:11,139 --> 00:14:12,059
I MYSELF WILL BE THE FIRST ONE
544
00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:13,009
TO DO IT.
545
00:14:13,029 --> 00:14:14,070
IF I WOULD BE DISCIPLINED,
546
00:14:14,090 --> 00:14:17,090
IT WOULD NEVER BE UPHELD.
547
00:14:17,110 --> 00:14:19,070
>> John: I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW
548
00:14:19,090 --> 00:14:20,179
WHAT'S MORE ALARMING THERE: HIS
549
00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:21,059
DETERMINATION TO TRAIN POLICE
550
00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:22,159
OFFICERS TO BE PREDATORS, HIS
551
00:14:22,179 --> 00:14:23,080
AIR OF CASUAL IMPUNITY, OR THE
552
00:14:23,100 --> 00:14:25,139
FACT THAT HE HAS A SIGN IN HIS
553
00:14:25,159 --> 00:14:26,139
OFFICE THAT SAYS "LET ME DROP
554
00:14:26,159 --> 00:14:27,080
"EVERYTHING" AND WORK ON YOUR
555
00:14:27,100 --> 00:14:28,059
PROBLEM."
556
00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,070
WHICH IS ALWAYS THE OFFICE DECOR
557
00:14:30,090 --> 00:14:31,110
CHOICE OF A GRADE-A ASSHOLE, BUT
558
00:14:31,129 --> 00:14:33,159
ESPECIALLY IF IT'S SOMEONE WHOSE
559
00:14:33,179 --> 00:14:34,149
ACTUAL JOB IS TO WORK ON OTHER
560
00:14:34,169 --> 00:14:36,129
PEOPLE'S PROBLEMS.
561
00:14:36,149 --> 00:14:37,240
AND THAT CONFIDENCE THAT HE'S
562
00:14:37,259 --> 00:14:42,039
ABOVE PUNISHMENT ACTUALLY BRINGS
563
00:14:42,059 --> 00:14:43,139
US TO THE SECOND POINT WE WANT
564
00:14:43,159 --> 00:14:44,009
TO LOOK AT TONIGHT: WHAT THE
565
00:14:44,029 --> 00:14:44,200
MAJOR OBSTACLES TO REFORM HAVE
566
00:14:44,220 --> 00:14:45,080
BEEN.
567
00:14:45,100 --> 00:14:46,269
BECAUSE ONE OF THE BIGGEST
568
00:14:46,289 --> 00:14:48,210
ISSUES IS POLICE UNIONS.
569
00:14:48,230 --> 00:14:50,039
EVEN IN CITIES WHERE THE MAYOR
570
00:14:50,059 --> 00:14:50,259
AND POLICE CHIEF SAY ALL THE
571
00:14:50,279 --> 00:14:52,210
RIGHT THINGS, IT'S IMPORTANT
572
00:14:52,230 --> 00:14:56,190
TO KNOW THAT THE UNION CAN STOP
573
00:14:56,210 --> 00:14:57,159
WHATEVER THEY ARE PROPOSING
574
00:14:57,179 --> 00:14:58,110
DEAD IN ITS TRACKS.
575
00:14:58,129 --> 00:14:59,090
AND UNIONS CAN MAKE IT
576
00:14:59,110 --> 00:15:00,039
INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT
577
00:15:00,059 --> 00:15:01,179
TO DISCIPLINE OFFICERS,
578
00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,100
EVEN FOR EGREGIOUS MISCONDUCT.
579
00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:04,240
TAKE WHAT HAPPENED IN
580
00:15:04,259 --> 00:15:06,179
MINNEAPOLIS, WITH TWO OFFICERS
581
00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:07,139
WHO BELONG TO OUR FRIEND BOB'S
582
00:15:07,159 --> 00:15:08,080
UNION.
583
00:15:08,100 --> 00:15:10,009
>> TWO MINNEAPOLIS POLICE
584
00:15:10,029 --> 00:15:12,070
OFFICERS ARE ON PAID LEAVE FOR
585
00:15:12,090 --> 00:15:14,000
ALLEGEDLY DECORATING A CHRISTMAS
586
00:15:14,019 --> 00:15:15,149
TREE AT THE 4TH PRECINCT WITH
587
00:15:15,169 --> 00:15:16,110
A BUNCH OF ITEMS THAT ARE VIEWED
588
00:15:16,129 --> 00:15:18,009
AS RACIST.
589
00:15:18,029 --> 00:15:20,240
BAGS OF HOT TAKI CHIPS, A CUP
590
00:15:20,259 --> 00:15:22,240
FROM POPEYES FRIED CHICKEN,
591
00:15:22,259 --> 00:15:24,240
MENTHOL CIGARETTES AND CANS OF
592
00:15:24,259 --> 00:15:28,159
MALT LIQUOR, AMONG OTHER THINGS.
593
00:15:28,179 --> 00:15:29,120
>> John: HOLY SHIT.
594
00:15:29,139 --> 00:15:30,159
THAT IS NOT JUST DISGUSTING, IT
595
00:15:30,179 --> 00:15:31,129
IS ALSO ARGUABLY THE MOST RACIST
596
00:15:31,149 --> 00:15:32,100
THING TO HAPPEN TO CHRISTMAS
597
00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:33,149
SINCE PEOPLE DECIDED THIS CHILD
598
00:15:33,169 --> 00:15:34,149
BORN IN THE MIDDLE EAST WAS
599
00:15:34,169 --> 00:15:36,139
WHITE.
600
00:15:36,159 --> 00:15:38,149
AND NOT ONLY DOES THAT INCIDENT
601
00:15:38,169 --> 00:15:39,159
RAISE SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT
602
00:15:39,179 --> 00:15:41,009
THOSE OFFICERS, IT ALSO
603
00:15:41,029 --> 00:15:42,190
IMPLICATES THE ENTIRE PRECINCT,
604
00:15:42,210 --> 00:15:44,009
BECAUSE THEY PRESUMABLY THOUGHT
605
00:15:44,029 --> 00:15:45,129
NONE OF THEIR COWORKERS WOULD
606
00:15:45,149 --> 00:15:46,080
HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WHAT THEY
607
00:15:46,100 --> 00:15:46,220
DID.
608
00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:47,250
AND TO HIS CREDIT,
609
00:15:47,269 --> 00:15:49,090
WHEN THAT STORY BROKE,
610
00:15:49,110 --> 00:15:50,169
THE MAYOR OF MINNEAPOLIS
611
00:15:50,190 --> 00:15:53,070
ANNOUNCED THE OFFICERS
612
00:15:53,090 --> 00:15:56,049
RESPONSIBLE WOULD
613
00:15:56,070 --> 00:15:58,039
BE FIRED BY THE END OF THE DAY
614
00:15:58,059 --> 00:15:59,009
ONLY TO ALMOST HAVE TO
615
00:15:59,029 --> 00:16:00,110
IMMEDIATELY WALK THAT STATEMENT
616
00:16:00,129 --> 00:16:01,169
BACK, SAYING THERE WAS A PROCESS
617
00:16:01,190 --> 00:16:02,169
THEY WERE REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH
618
00:16:02,190 --> 00:16:04,000
BY LAW.
619
00:16:04,019 --> 00:16:04,230
WE ACTUALLY CHECKED.
620
00:16:04,250 --> 00:16:06,059
DESPITE THE FACT IT'S NOW BEEN A
621
00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,190
YEAR AND A HALF SINCE THAT
622
00:16:08,210 --> 00:16:10,110
HAPPENED, ONE OF THOSE
623
00:16:10,129 --> 00:16:10,190
OFFICERS'
624
00:16:10,210 --> 00:16:11,059
CASES IS STILL UNDER
625
00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:11,250
ARBITRATION.
626
00:16:11,269 --> 00:16:12,240
AND, LOOK, I GET UNIONS FIGHTING
627
00:16:12,259 --> 00:16:14,009
FOR THEIR WORKERS -- THAT IS
628
00:16:14,029 --> 00:16:15,029
WHAT THEY DO.
629
00:16:15,049 --> 00:16:16,149
BUT POLICE UNIONS TAKE THAT
630
00:16:16,169 --> 00:16:18,159
TO A DANGEROUS EXTREME,
631
00:16:18,179 --> 00:16:19,129
AND NEGOTIATE LANGUAGE INTO
632
00:16:19,149 --> 00:16:20,149
CONTRACTS THAT MAKES REMOVING
633
00:16:20,169 --> 00:16:22,269
A PROBLEM OFFICER INCREDIBLY
634
00:16:22,289 --> 00:16:23,049
DIFFICULT.
635
00:16:23,070 --> 00:16:24,090
A "WASHINGTON POST" ANALYSIS OF
636
00:16:24,110 --> 00:16:26,080
SOME OF THE NATION'S LARGEST
637
00:16:26,100 --> 00:16:30,269
POLICE DEPARTMENTS FOUND THAT
638
00:16:30,289 --> 00:16:32,110
THEY'D FIRED AT LEAST 1881
639
00:16:32,129 --> 00:16:33,100
OFFICERS FOR MISCONDUCT, BUT
640
00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,029
WERE FORCED TO REINSTATE MORE
641
00:16:35,049 --> 00:16:36,039
THAN 450 OF THEM -- ALMOST 25%
642
00:16:36,059 --> 00:16:37,120
-- AFTER APPEALS REQUIRED BY
643
00:16:37,139 --> 00:16:39,149
THEIR UNION CONTRACTS.
644
00:16:39,169 --> 00:16:40,169
AND POLICE UNIONS CAN ALSO
645
00:16:40,190 --> 00:16:42,029
OPPOSE EVEN THE MOST BASIC,
646
00:16:42,049 --> 00:16:43,149
COMMON-SENSE REFORM.
647
00:16:43,169 --> 00:16:45,220
A FEW YEARS BACK, THE CLEVELAND
648
00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:46,240
POLICE STARTED BEING REQUIRED
649
00:16:46,259 --> 00:16:48,029
TO FILE A REPORT EVERY TIME THEY
650
00:16:48,049 --> 00:16:50,259
UNHOLSTERED AND POINTED THEIR
651
00:16:50,279 --> 00:16:52,139
GUN AT SOMEONE, AND THEIR UNION
652
00:16:52,159 --> 00:16:54,159
HEAD WAS ABSOLUTELY FURIOUS.
653
00:16:54,179 --> 00:16:55,230
>> I'M AFRAID THAT OFFICERS ARE
654
00:16:55,250 --> 00:16:57,250
GONNA BE HESITANT TO PULL THEIR
655
00:16:57,269 --> 00:16:59,279
GUN IN AN APPROPRIATE SITUATION
656
00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,120
BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANNA DO THE
657
00:17:01,139 --> 00:17:02,250
PAPERWORK THAT'S GONNA BE
658
00:17:02,269 --> 00:17:03,139
ASSOCIATED WITH HAVING TO PULL
659
00:17:03,159 --> 00:17:04,019
YOUR GUN.
660
00:17:04,039 --> 00:17:05,289
>> John: OKAY, FIRST:
661
00:17:06,009 --> 00:17:07,240
THE IDEA THAT THE RISK OF
662
00:17:07,259 --> 00:17:10,029
PAPERWORK IS A GREATER DETERRENT
663
00:17:10,049 --> 00:17:10,269
TO POLICE OFFICERS DRAWING THEIR
664
00:17:10,289 --> 00:17:11,210
GUN THAN THE RISK OF KILLING
665
00:17:11,230 --> 00:17:12,210
SOMEONE IS LEGITIMATELY
666
00:17:12,230 --> 00:17:14,000
TERRIFYING.
667
00:17:14,019 --> 00:17:15,140
AND IT'S HARD TO TAKE THAT GLIB
668
00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,069
DISMISSAL FROM ANYONE, LET ALONE
669
00:17:17,089 --> 00:17:19,069
SOMEONE WHO LOOKS LIKE A BOILED
670
00:17:19,089 --> 00:17:20,069
MR. POTATO HEAD, OR AN ANGRY EGG
671
00:17:20,089 --> 00:17:22,059
WITH A MUSTACHE.
672
00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:22,279
AND I KNOW THOSE COMPARISONS
673
00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:23,170
PROBABLY MAKE HIM MAD, BUT
674
00:17:23,190 --> 00:17:24,190
WHAT'S HE GONNA DO, SHOOT ME?
675
00:17:24,210 --> 00:17:26,059
I DON'T THINK SO!
676
00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:27,269
THINK OF THE PAPERWORK INVOLVED.
677
00:17:27,289 --> 00:17:29,089
AND THAT ATTITUDE IS
678
00:17:29,109 --> 00:17:31,039
PARTICULARLY HARD TO TAKE,
679
00:17:31,059 --> 00:17:32,279
CONSIDERING THAT JUST SIX MONTHS
680
00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,180
PREVIOUSLY, TAMIR RICE HAD BEEN
681
00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:35,210
KILLED BY A CLEVELAND POLICE
682
00:17:35,230 --> 00:17:37,109
OFFICER.
683
00:17:37,130 --> 00:17:38,200
AND WHEN FACED WITH
684
00:17:38,220 --> 00:17:40,089
ACCOUNTABILITY THEY DON'T LIKE,
685
00:17:40,109 --> 00:17:42,079
UNIONS WILL OFTEN ISSUE THE
686
00:17:42,099 --> 00:17:43,180
ULTIMATE THREAT: TO SIMPLY PULL
687
00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:44,259
BACK AND LET CRIME RISE.
688
00:17:44,279 --> 00:17:47,130
FOR INSTANCE, LISTEN TO HOW
689
00:17:47,150 --> 00:17:49,019
THE HEAD OF NEW YORK CITY'S
690
00:17:49,039 --> 00:17:50,240
LARGEST POLICE UNION REACTED
691
00:17:50,259 --> 00:17:52,009
WHEN A JUDGE RECOMMENDED FIRING
692
00:17:52,029 --> 00:17:52,269
THE OFFICER WHOSE CHOKEHOLD LED
693
00:17:52,289 --> 00:17:54,200
TO THE DEATH OF ERIC GARNER.
694
00:17:54,220 --> 00:17:56,019
>> THE CRIMINAL ADVOCATES HAVE
695
00:17:56,039 --> 00:17:58,130
GOTTEN WHAT THEY WANT.
696
00:17:58,150 --> 00:18:01,049
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS FROZEN.
697
00:18:01,069 --> 00:18:03,130
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN'T STOP
698
00:18:03,150 --> 00:18:04,200
THE KILLERS, THEY CAN'T STOP
699
00:18:04,220 --> 00:18:07,079
THE CRIMINALS, THEY CAN'T
700
00:18:07,099 --> 00:18:10,049
EFFECTIVELY DO THEIR JOB.
701
00:18:10,069 --> 00:18:11,190
I'M SORRY TO SAY THAT WE HAVE TO
702
00:18:11,210 --> 00:18:12,269
TELL OUR POLICE OFFICERS, "TAKE
703
00:18:12,289 --> 00:18:14,170
IT A STEP SLOWER."
704
00:18:14,190 --> 00:18:15,140
>> John: "TAKE IT A STEP
705
00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,119
SLOWER."
706
00:18:17,140 --> 00:18:19,079
HE JUST BASICALLY THREATENED
707
00:18:19,099 --> 00:18:20,289
INACTION AGAINST "THE KILLERS"
708
00:18:21,009 --> 00:18:22,130
AS A BARGAINING CHIP.
709
00:18:22,150 --> 00:18:24,009
AND BESIDES THAT BEING MORALLY
710
00:18:24,029 --> 00:18:30,119
REPREHENSIBLE, IT'S A TOOL MOST
711
00:18:30,140 --> 00:18:32,019
LABOR UNIONS SIMPLY DON'T HAVE
712
00:18:32,039 --> 00:18:34,200
AT THEIR DISPOSAL.
713
00:18:34,220 --> 00:18:35,250
WHEN THE UNIONS REPRESENTING TV
714
00:18:35,269 --> 00:18:36,210
WRITERS FIGHT FOR THEIR MEMBERS,
715
00:18:36,230 --> 00:18:37,240
THE WORST THING THEY CAN
716
00:18:37,259 --> 00:18:38,140
THREATEN THE PUBLIC WITH IS
717
00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:39,150
FEWER EPISODES OF "BULL," OR
718
00:18:39,170 --> 00:18:40,269
"THE BLACKLIST," OR THIS SHOW.
719
00:18:40,289 --> 00:18:41,259
AND THAT'S JUST NOT A COMPELLING
720
00:18:41,279 --> 00:18:42,210
ARGUMENT.
721
00:18:42,230 --> 00:18:44,140
AND THAT WASN'T EVEN AN EMPTY
722
00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:45,190
THREAT, BECAUSE FOLLOWING THAT
723
00:18:45,210 --> 00:18:46,170
STATEMENT, POLICING DID SLOW
724
00:18:46,190 --> 00:18:47,089
DOWN IN NEW YORK FOR A BIT
725
00:18:47,109 --> 00:18:47,279
LAST YEAR.
726
00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,099
THERE WAS AN 11% DROP IN
727
00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,009
FELONY ARRESTS, AN 18% DROP
728
00:18:51,029 --> 00:18:53,220
IN MISDEMEANOR ARRESTS, AND
729
00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,019
A 32% DROP IN MOVING VIOLATIONS.
730
00:18:56,039 --> 00:18:58,160
BUT THE THING IS: IF YOU LIVED
731
00:18:58,180 --> 00:19:00,019
IN NEW YORK THEN, YOU PROBABLY
732
00:19:00,039 --> 00:19:03,170
DON'T REMEMBER IT AS THE TIME
733
00:19:03,190 --> 00:19:04,119
THAT THE CITY DEVOLVED INTO
734
00:19:04,140 --> 00:19:04,289
CHAOS.
735
00:19:05,009 --> 00:19:06,000
BECAUSE IT DIDN'T.
736
00:19:06,019 --> 00:19:07,069
PEOPLE STILL WENT ABOUT THEIR
737
00:19:07,089 --> 00:19:08,240
LIVES, SUBWAYS WERE STILL AS
738
00:19:08,259 --> 00:19:09,130
DELAYED AS THEY USUALLY WERE,
739
00:19:09,150 --> 00:19:11,009
AND RATS STILL DRAGGED SLICES OF
740
00:19:11,029 --> 00:19:12,019
PIZZA UP STAIRS TO FEED THEIR
741
00:19:12,039 --> 00:19:13,130
RAT FAMILIES AFTER A HARD DAY OF
742
00:19:13,150 --> 00:19:15,029
RAT WORK.
743
00:19:15,049 --> 00:19:16,039
MAKING YOU WONDER WHETHER ALL
744
00:19:16,059 --> 00:19:17,099
THOSE ARRESTS WERE REALLY
745
00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:18,200
IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC SAFETY
746
00:19:18,220 --> 00:19:20,089
AT ALL.
747
00:19:20,109 --> 00:19:23,000
NOW, ONE GOOD WAY TO ATTEMPT TO
748
00:19:23,019 --> 00:19:25,039
GET REFORMS PAST A UNION'S
749
00:19:25,059 --> 00:19:28,009
RESISTANCE IS IF THE FEDERAL
750
00:19:28,029 --> 00:19:29,019
GOVERNMENT STEPS IN, WHICH IT
751
00:19:29,039 --> 00:19:29,289
ACTUALLY CAN.
752
00:19:30,009 --> 00:19:31,210
IT HAS THE POWER TO INVESTIGATE
753
00:19:31,230 --> 00:19:32,160
POLICE DEPARTMENTS FOR A PATTERN
754
00:19:32,180 --> 00:19:36,049
OF CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATIONS, AND
755
00:19:36,069 --> 00:19:37,099
ENTER WHAT IS CALLED A "CONSENT
756
00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:38,029
DECREE," IN WHICH THE POLICE
757
00:19:38,049 --> 00:19:39,009
DEPARTMENT AGREES TO MAKE
758
00:19:39,029 --> 00:19:40,029
INSTITUTIONAL CHANGES THAT
759
00:19:40,049 --> 00:19:41,000
ARE THEN OVERSEEN BY
760
00:19:41,019 --> 00:19:42,240
A FEDERAL COURT.
761
00:19:42,259 --> 00:19:44,099
THAT CAN BE A POWERFUL TOOL
762
00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:45,150
TO FORCE CHANGE.
763
00:19:45,170 --> 00:19:46,180
IN FACT, THAT PAPERWORK
764
00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,190
REQUIREMENT IN CLEVELAND THAT
765
00:19:48,210 --> 00:19:50,039
PISSED OFF THIS EGG?
766
00:19:50,059 --> 00:19:52,049
THAT CAME FROM A CONSENT DECREE.
767
00:19:52,069 --> 00:19:54,279
THE PROBLEM IS, HOW OR EVEN
768
00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,089
WHETHER THE GOVERNMENT DOES THAT
769
00:19:58,109 --> 00:19:59,009
DEPENDS ON WHO IS RUNNING IT.
770
00:19:59,029 --> 00:20:00,029
AND RIGHT NOW, IT'S THIS WILDLY
771
00:20:00,049 --> 00:20:01,200
UNSUCCESSFUL BIBLE SALESMAN.
772
00:20:01,220 --> 00:20:03,039
AND HE CLEARLY HAS NO INTEREST
773
00:20:03,059 --> 00:20:04,190
IN POLICE REFORM.
774
00:20:04,210 --> 00:20:06,240
IN GEORGE W. BUSH'S FIRST TERM,
775
00:20:06,259 --> 00:20:08,059
HIS JUSTICE DEPARTMENT LAUNCHED
776
00:20:08,079 --> 00:20:09,140
12 SUCH INVESTIGATIONS INTO
777
00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:10,119
POLICE DEPARTMENTS.
778
00:20:10,140 --> 00:20:11,119
IN OBAMA'S FIRST TERM, IT WAS
779
00:20:11,140 --> 00:20:14,009
15.
780
00:20:14,029 --> 00:20:15,160
TRUMP'S D.O.J. HAS LAUNCHED JUST
781
00:20:15,180 --> 00:20:17,079
A SINGLE INVESTIGATION, AND HAS
782
00:20:17,099 --> 00:20:18,279
ENTERED ZERO CONSENT DECREES.
783
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,279
MEANWHILE, TRUMP HIMSELF HAS
784
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,009
MADE IT PRETTY CLEAR WHERE
785
00:20:22,029 --> 00:20:23,059
HE STANDS ON THE POLICE USE OF
786
00:20:23,079 --> 00:20:24,150
FORCE.
787
00:20:24,170 --> 00:20:26,039
HE NOT ONLY ROLLED BACK OBAMA'S
788
00:20:26,059 --> 00:20:26,279
RESTRICTIONS ON GIVING THE
789
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,049
POLICE MILITARY EQUIPMENT,
790
00:20:28,069 --> 00:20:29,109
JUST LISTEN TO WHAT HE SAID TO
791
00:20:29,130 --> 00:20:30,200
AN AUDIENCE FILLED WITH
792
00:20:30,220 --> 00:20:32,130
LAW ENFORCEMENT.
793
00:20:32,150 --> 00:20:35,140
>> PLEASE DON'T BE TOO NICE.
794
00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,250
LIKE WHEN YOU GUYS PUT SOMEBODY
795
00:20:37,269 --> 00:20:39,190
IN THE CAR AND YOU'RE PROTECTING
796
00:20:39,210 --> 00:20:41,059
THEIR HEAD, YOU KNOW, THE WAY
797
00:20:41,079 --> 00:20:43,220
YOU PUT YOUR HAND OVER IT.
798
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,140
LIKE, DON'T HIT THEIR HEAD, AND
799
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:46,190
THEY'VE JUST KILLED SOMEBODY.
800
00:20:46,210 --> 00:20:47,029
DON'T HIT THEIR HEAD.
801
00:20:47,049 --> 00:20:47,210
I SAID, YOU CAN TAKE THE HAND
802
00:20:47,230 --> 00:20:53,259
AWAY, OKAY?
803
00:20:53,279 --> 00:20:54,269
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
804
00:20:54,289 --> 00:20:59,180
>> John: WOW.
805
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,200
YOU KNOW, IT'S BAD ENOUGH WHEN
806
00:21:01,220 --> 00:21:03,109
IT'S JUST A BUNCH OF RANDOM
807
00:21:03,130 --> 00:21:07,069
SHITHEADS CHEERING ON TRUMP'S
808
00:21:07,089 --> 00:21:08,069
LAWLESS RHETORIC,
809
00:21:08,089 --> 00:21:09,089
IT'S A LOT MORE
810
00:21:09,109 --> 00:21:10,150
ALARMING WHEN THE APPLAUSE IS
811
00:21:10,170 --> 00:21:11,059
COMING FROM THE PEOPLE WHOSE
812
00:21:11,079 --> 00:21:12,109
SOLE JOB IS TO SEE LAWLESSNESS
813
00:21:12,130 --> 00:21:13,079
AND STOP IT.
814
00:21:13,099 --> 00:21:14,140
SO IF THE UNIONS WON'T ACT, AND
815
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:15,130
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WON'T
816
00:21:15,150 --> 00:21:16,089
ACT, WHAT ELSE CAN YOU DO,
817
00:21:16,109 --> 00:21:17,059
AS A CIVILIAN, TO GET
818
00:21:17,079 --> 00:21:18,000
ACCOUNTABILITY IF THE POLICE
819
00:21:18,019 --> 00:21:19,000
VIOLATED YOUR RIGHTS?
820
00:21:19,019 --> 00:21:20,089
WELL, YOU COULD TRY AND SUE THE
821
00:21:20,109 --> 00:21:21,210
CITY, OR THE INDIVIDUAL OFFICER
822
00:21:21,230 --> 00:21:22,210
IN QUESTION.
823
00:21:22,230 --> 00:21:23,210
AND IN HIGH-PROFILE CASES
824
00:21:23,230 --> 00:21:24,200
ESPECIALLY, THEY CAN BE
825
00:21:24,220 --> 00:21:25,140
INCENTIVIZED TO SETTLE FOR
826
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:26,130
ASTONISHING AMOUNTS.
827
00:21:26,150 --> 00:21:29,150
IN FACT, OVER A PERIOD OF
828
00:21:29,170 --> 00:21:31,059
FIVE YEARS, THE TEN CITIES WITH
829
00:21:31,079 --> 00:21:33,059
THE LARGEST POLICE DEPARTMENTS
830
00:21:33,079 --> 00:21:35,099
PAID OUT A BILLION DOLLARS IN
831
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:36,150
SETTLEMENTS AND COURT JUDGMENTS.
832
00:21:36,170 --> 00:21:38,180
AND LISTEN, I'M NO COMPTROLLER.
833
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,109
BELIEVE ME -- I WISH I WERE.
834
00:21:40,130 --> 00:21:42,079
A HARD-TO-EXPLAIN, LETHALLY
835
00:21:42,099 --> 00:21:44,049
BORING, ELECTED ACCOUNTANT WHOSE
836
00:21:44,069 --> 00:21:45,000
TITLE INEXPLICABLY TOOK A REAL
837
00:21:45,019 --> 00:21:45,220
WORD AND STUCK AN "MP" IN THE
838
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:46,039
MIDDLE OF IT?
839
00:21:46,059 --> 00:21:48,099
COME ON!
840
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,000
THAT'S MY DREAM JOMPB.
841
00:21:50,019 --> 00:21:51,089
BUT EVEN I CAN TELL YOU:
842
00:21:51,109 --> 00:21:52,140
IF YOU'RE SPENDING A BILLION
843
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:53,170
DOLLARS ON MISCONDUCT
844
00:21:53,190 --> 00:21:54,259
SETTLEMENTS, YOU MIGHT WANT TO
845
00:21:54,279 --> 00:21:55,170
SERIOUSLY EXAMINE WHAT CONDUCT
846
00:21:55,190 --> 00:21:56,230
LOOKS LIKE.
847
00:21:56,250 --> 00:21:58,150
AND IF A CITY DOESN'T FEEL IT
848
00:21:58,170 --> 00:22:00,170
HAS TO SETTLE WITH YOU, YOU'RE
849
00:22:00,190 --> 00:22:03,009
IN REAL TROUBLE, BECAUSE CIVIL
850
00:22:03,029 --> 00:22:03,190
SUITS AGAINST COPS ARE NEARLY
851
00:22:03,210 --> 00:22:04,130
IMPOSSIBLE TO WIN.
852
00:22:04,150 --> 00:22:05,160
JUST LISTEN TO A DEFENSE
853
00:22:05,180 --> 00:22:07,089
ATTORNEY EXPLAIN ONE REASON IT
854
00:22:07,109 --> 00:22:08,259
WAS GOING TO BE DIFFICULT FOR
855
00:22:08,279 --> 00:22:10,019
MICHAEL BROWN'S FAMILY TO SUE
856
00:22:10,039 --> 00:22:10,259
THE FERGUSON OFFICER WHO KILLED
857
00:22:10,279 --> 00:22:11,240
HIM.
858
00:22:11,259 --> 00:22:12,170
>> CIVILLY, SURE, THEY COULD GO
859
00:22:12,190 --> 00:22:14,039
AFTER HIM CIVILLY.
860
00:22:14,059 --> 00:22:14,269
THE PROBLEM IS HE HAS QUALIFIED
861
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:15,259
IMMUNITY.
862
00:22:15,279 --> 00:22:17,099
HE'S GONNA SAY THAT "I WAS
863
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,140
ACTING WITHIN THE SCOPE OF MY
864
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:19,119
EMPLOYMENT, THIS IS WHAT I WAS
865
00:22:19,140 --> 00:22:24,190
DOING."
866
00:22:24,210 --> 00:22:27,039
>> John: YEAH, AND HE'S RIGHT
867
00:22:27,059 --> 00:22:27,130
ABOUT THAT.
868
00:22:27,150 --> 00:22:28,069
POLICE OFFICERS ARE OFTEN
869
00:22:28,089 --> 00:22:29,059
PROTECTED FROM CONSEQUENCES
870
00:22:29,079 --> 00:22:30,250
DUE TO SOMETHING CALLED
871
00:22:30,269 --> 00:22:31,079
QUALIFIED IMMUNITY.
872
00:22:31,099 --> 00:22:31,269
WHICH SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING YOU
873
00:22:31,289 --> 00:22:32,160
GET FROM A HORRIFYING CHEAT CODE
874
00:22:32,180 --> 00:22:33,089
IN "GRAND THEFT AUTO."
875
00:22:33,109 --> 00:22:34,019
"GUESS WHAT?
876
00:22:34,039 --> 00:22:35,039
I TURNED ON QUALIFIED IMMUNITY
877
00:22:35,059 --> 00:22:36,019
AND NOW MY CAR RUNS ON
878
00:22:36,039 --> 00:22:36,289
PROSTITUTES!"
879
00:22:37,009 --> 00:22:38,039
BUT IT'S ACTUALLY WORTH TAKING A
880
00:22:38,059 --> 00:22:39,119
MOMENT TO TALK ABOUT THAT TERM.
881
00:22:39,140 --> 00:22:41,029
VERY BASICALLY, QUALIFIED
882
00:22:41,049 --> 00:22:42,269
IMMUNITY MEANS THAT A PUBLIC
883
00:22:42,289 --> 00:22:43,240
OFFICIAL IS IMMUNE FROM
884
00:22:43,259 --> 00:22:45,140
LAWSUITS, UNLESS THEIR EXACT
885
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,039
CONDUCT HAS ALREADY BEEN RULED
886
00:22:47,059 --> 00:22:50,269
UNCONSTITUTIONAL IN A PREVIOUS
887
00:22:50,289 --> 00:22:53,029
CASE.
888
00:22:53,049 --> 00:22:57,250
AND I DO MEAN EXACT.
889
00:22:57,269 --> 00:22:59,279
BECAUSE SMALL, TINY VARIATIONS
890
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:00,250
THROWN OUT.
891
00:23:00,269 --> 00:23:01,259
THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.
892
00:23:01,279 --> 00:23:02,190
FOR INSTANCE, ONE CASE WAS
893
00:23:02,210 --> 00:23:03,180
THROWN OUT BECAUSE OF THE
894
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,210
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN UNLEASHING
895
00:23:04,230 --> 00:23:05,250
A POLICE DOG TO BITE A
896
00:23:05,269 --> 00:23:06,250
MOTIONLESS SUSPECT IN A BUSHY
897
00:23:06,269 --> 00:23:08,019
RAVINE, AND UNLEASHING A POLICE
898
00:23:08,039 --> 00:23:09,059
DOG TO BITE A COMPLIANT SUSPECT
899
00:23:09,079 --> 00:23:10,230
IN A CANAL IN THE WOODS.
900
00:23:10,250 --> 00:23:12,160
WHICH I TOTALLY GET -- THOSE ARE
901
00:23:12,180 --> 00:23:13,250
TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT KINDS
902
00:23:13,269 --> 00:23:15,170
OF OUTDOOR HOLES.
903
00:23:15,190 --> 00:23:17,099
AND THEN THERE WAS THIS CASE:
904
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,019
>> A FEDERAL APPEALS COURT HAS
905
00:23:19,039 --> 00:23:20,059
RULED SEATTLE POLICE USED
906
00:23:20,079 --> 00:23:21,099
EXCESSIVE FORCE WHEN THEY
907
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:22,190
TASERED A PREGNANT WOMAN DURING
908
00:23:22,210 --> 00:23:25,009
A TRAFFIC STOP IN 2004.
909
00:23:25,029 --> 00:23:26,200
SHE WAS SHOCKED THREE TIMES WITH
910
00:23:26,220 --> 00:23:28,130
A STUN GUN FOR REFUSING TO SIGN
911
00:23:28,150 --> 00:23:30,059
A SPEEDING TICKET.
912
00:23:30,079 --> 00:23:31,210
ALTHOUGH THE RULING WAS IN
913
00:23:31,230 --> 00:23:33,019
BROOKS' FAVOR, THE OFFICER WHO
914
00:23:33,039 --> 00:23:36,059
FIRED THE TASER WAS GIVEN
915
00:23:36,079 --> 00:23:37,089
IMMUNITY BECAUSE THE LAW ON STUN
916
00:23:37,109 --> 00:23:38,170
GUN USE WAS NOT CLEAR YET.
917
00:23:38,190 --> 00:23:39,190
>> John: THAT IS ABSOLUTELY
918
00:23:39,210 --> 00:23:41,289
RIDICULOUS.
919
00:23:42,009 --> 00:23:43,079
THE METHOD THE OFFICER USED TO
920
00:23:43,099 --> 00:23:44,099
ASSAULT THAT WOMAN CLEARLY
921
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:45,259
SHOULDN'T MATTER.
922
00:23:45,279 --> 00:23:47,009
IT'S LIKE IF JEFFREY DAHMER WAS
923
00:23:47,029 --> 00:23:48,009
DECLARED INNOCENT BECAUSE
924
00:23:48,029 --> 00:23:48,240
HE COOKED HIS VICTIMS
925
00:23:48,259 --> 00:23:51,190
IN AN INSTANT POT.
926
00:23:51,210 --> 00:23:52,160
THE CRIME IS THE KILLING, NOT
927
00:23:52,180 --> 00:23:56,099
WHAT FUCKING APPLIANCE HE USED.
928
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,089
NOW, THE GOOD NEWS IS, THERE'S
929
00:23:58,109 --> 00:23:59,160
A CHANCE THE SUPREME COURT WILL
930
00:23:59,180 --> 00:24:00,140
SOON DECIDE TO RECONSIDER
931
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,109
QUALIFIED IMMUNITY.
932
00:24:01,130 --> 00:24:02,240
THERE'S ACTUALLY A BILL IN
933
00:24:02,259 --> 00:24:03,119
CONGRESS RIGHT NOW TO ABOLISH
934
00:24:03,140 --> 00:24:04,200
IT.
935
00:24:04,220 --> 00:24:06,099
ALTHOUGH, EVEN IF IT PASSES,
936
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:07,130
IT MAY HAVE TO WAIT FOR
937
00:24:07,150 --> 00:24:08,190
A NEW PRESIDENT TO SIGN IT.
938
00:24:08,210 --> 00:24:10,039
AND WE MAY NOT GET ONE OF THOSE
939
00:24:10,059 --> 00:24:11,049
ANYWHERE FROM THE NEXT FOUR
940
00:24:11,069 --> 00:24:12,119
YEARS TO NEVER.
941
00:24:12,140 --> 00:24:14,250
BUT WHILE ENDING QUALIFIED
942
00:24:14,269 --> 00:24:18,039
IMMUNITY WOULD BE GREAT, THAT
943
00:24:18,059 --> 00:24:19,069
ALONE ISN'T GONNA BE NEARLY
944
00:24:19,089 --> 00:24:19,140
ENOUGH.
945
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,180
AND THAT BRINGS US TO OUR FINAL
946
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,160
POINT: WHAT DO WE DO NOW?
947
00:24:22,180 --> 00:24:24,039
THERE ARE A LOT OF SUGGESTIONS
948
00:24:24,059 --> 00:24:27,000
TO LOOK AT HERE.
949
00:24:27,019 --> 00:24:28,049
UNFORTUNATELY, SOME PROMINENT
950
00:24:28,069 --> 00:24:29,150
DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN SPITBALLING
951
00:24:29,170 --> 00:24:31,119
IDEAS THAT ARE EMBARRASSINGLY
952
00:24:31,140 --> 00:24:32,089
SMALL, PERHAPS NONE MORE
953
00:24:32,109 --> 00:24:34,200
RIDICULOUS THAN THIS:
954
00:24:34,220 --> 00:24:36,140
>> AND THE IDEA THAT OF INSTEAD
955
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,259
OF STANDING THERE AND TEACHING
956
00:24:38,279 --> 00:24:40,200
A COP WHEN THERE'S AN UNARMED
957
00:24:40,220 --> 00:24:41,279
PERSON COMIN' AT 'EM WITH A
958
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,140
KNIFE OR SOMETHING, TO SHOOT 'EM
959
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,079
IN THE LEG INSTEAD OF THE HEART
960
00:24:44,099 --> 00:24:45,119
IS A VERY DIFFERENT THING.
961
00:24:45,140 --> 00:24:46,170
THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT
962
00:24:46,190 --> 00:24:47,220
THINGS THAT CAN CHANGE.
963
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,190
>> John: WOW.
964
00:24:50,210 --> 00:24:52,119
THAT LACK OF IMAGINATION IS
965
00:24:52,140 --> 00:24:53,140
NOT PARTICULARLY INSPIRING,
966
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,279
BUT ALSO: NOT PARTICULARLY
967
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:55,250
SURPRISING COMING FROM
968
00:24:55,269 --> 00:24:56,289
JOE BIDEN, WHO IS TRULY THE
969
00:24:57,009 --> 00:24:58,130
"GETTING SHOT IN THE LEG INSTEAD
970
00:24:58,150 --> 00:24:59,049
OF THE HEART" CANDIDATE
971
00:24:59,069 --> 00:25:03,279
RIGHT NOW.
972
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,079
AND WHILE THAT'S OBVIOUSLY
973
00:25:07,099 --> 00:25:07,269
ABSURD, THE INSTINCT BIDEN JUST
974
00:25:07,289 --> 00:25:08,180
DISPLAYED --
975
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,190
THAT THE KEY QUESTION IS NOT IF
976
00:25:09,210 --> 00:25:10,220
AN OFFICER SHOULD SHOOT SOMEONE,
977
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,200
BUT WHERE -- IS SHARED BY MANY
978
00:25:11,220 --> 00:25:12,210
POLITICIANS.
979
00:25:12,230 --> 00:25:14,000
IN NEW YORK, BILL DE BLASIO HAS
980
00:25:14,019 --> 00:25:15,069
BALKED AT MAKING IT ILLEGAL FOR
981
00:25:15,089 --> 00:25:16,140
POLICE TO USE CHOKEHOLDS,
982
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,150
DESPITE THE FACT THAT
983
00:25:17,170 --> 00:25:19,140
A CHOKEHOLD IS PRECISELY WHAT
984
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,289
LED TO THE DEATH OF ERIC GARNER.
985
00:25:21,009 --> 00:25:23,109
BUT THE FACT IS, THE INCREMENTAL
986
00:25:23,130 --> 00:25:25,190
REFORMS WE'VE TRIED -- LIKE THE
987
00:25:25,210 --> 00:25:27,089
WIDER USE OF BODY CAMERAS, AND
988
00:25:27,109 --> 00:25:28,049
IMPLICIT BIAS AND USE-OF-FORCE
989
00:25:28,069 --> 00:25:29,150
TRAINING -- ARE NOT, ON THEIR
990
00:25:29,170 --> 00:25:32,000
OWN, GOING TO CUT IT.
991
00:25:32,019 --> 00:25:33,289
AND I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULDN'T
992
00:25:34,009 --> 00:25:35,250
STILL TRY THEM, BUT IN MANY
993
00:25:35,269 --> 00:25:38,119
CASES, YOU'RE CONTENDING WITH
994
00:25:38,140 --> 00:25:39,119
AN ENTRENCHED POLICE CULTURE
995
00:25:39,140 --> 00:25:43,119
RESISTANT TO ANY EFFORT TO
996
00:25:43,140 --> 00:25:43,220
COMPEL REFORM.
997
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:44,150
THAT IS WHY MANY ARE ADVOCATING
998
00:25:44,170 --> 00:25:45,140
THAT WE RETHINK POLICE FROM
999
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,119
THE GROUND UP.
1000
00:25:46,140 --> 00:25:47,109
ONE SMALL EXAMPLE OF THIS IS
1001
00:25:47,130 --> 00:25:48,200
CAMDEN, NEW JERSEY, WHICH,
1002
00:25:48,220 --> 00:25:50,160
TEN YEARS AGO WAS POLICED
1003
00:25:50,180 --> 00:25:51,089
BY A DEEPLY TROUBLED,
1004
00:25:51,109 --> 00:25:53,069
CORRUPTION-RIDDEN FORCE.
1005
00:25:53,089 --> 00:25:55,200
BUT IN 2013, THEY DISSOLVED
1006
00:25:55,220 --> 00:25:57,180
THEIR CITY POLICE FORCE
1007
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,000
ENTIRELY, WITH OFFICERS HAVING
1008
00:25:59,019 --> 00:26:00,210
TO REAPPLY FOR THEIR JOBS.
1009
00:26:00,230 --> 00:26:02,109
AND IN DOING THAT, THEY'VE BEEN
1010
00:26:02,130 --> 00:26:03,130
ABLE TO MEANINGFULLY SHIFT THE
1011
00:26:03,150 --> 00:26:05,130
CULTURE, WHILE ALSO INSTITUTING
1012
00:26:05,150 --> 00:26:07,069
POLICY CHANGES THAT HAVE LED TO
1013
00:26:07,089 --> 00:26:10,019
BOTH A DROP IN EXCESSIVE-FORCE
1014
00:26:10,039 --> 00:26:10,259
COMPLAINTS, AND SOME REBUILDING
1015
00:26:10,279 --> 00:26:14,019
OF COMMUNITY TRUST.
1016
00:26:14,039 --> 00:26:15,039
AND LOOK, I'M NOT SAYING THAT
1017
00:26:15,059 --> 00:26:17,000
IT'S BEEN EASY, PERFECT, OR EVEN
1018
00:26:17,019 --> 00:26:18,200
THAT IT WOULD WORK EVERYWHERE.
1019
00:26:18,220 --> 00:26:19,279
BUT IT SHOULD EXPAND OUR IDEA OF
1020
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,119
WHAT'S POSSIBLE.
1021
00:26:21,140 --> 00:26:22,220
ONE EVEN BROADER IDEA THAT'S
1022
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,029
GAINING MOMENTUM RIGHT NOW IS
1023
00:26:24,049 --> 00:26:26,130
DEFUNDING THE POLICE -- A PHRASE
1024
00:26:26,150 --> 00:26:27,180
THAT, ON ITS FACE, MAY SOUND
1025
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,000
ALARMING TO SOME.
1026
00:26:29,019 --> 00:26:31,000
IN FACT, JUST WATCH THIS
1027
00:26:31,019 --> 00:26:33,009
PROFESSIONAL ALARMIST BE
1028
00:26:33,029 --> 00:26:34,250
ALARMED, ON HIS VERY BAD FACE:
1029
00:26:34,269 --> 00:26:35,200
>> DEFUND THE POLICE.
1030
00:26:35,220 --> 00:26:36,259
NO MORE COPS.
1031
00:26:36,279 --> 00:26:37,269
THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE FIGHTING
1032
00:26:37,289 --> 00:26:39,059
FOR.
1033
00:26:39,079 --> 00:26:40,190
THAT SEEMS LIKE A FRINGE
1034
00:26:40,210 --> 00:26:41,099
POSITION, BUT IN THE DEMOCRATIC
1035
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,039
PARTY, IT ISN'T ANYMORE.
1036
00:26:43,059 --> 00:26:44,019
IF YOU LIVE IN A GATED
1037
00:26:44,039 --> 00:26:45,039
COMMUNITY, IT MIGHT SOUND
1038
00:26:45,059 --> 00:26:47,009
LIKE A GOOD IDEA.
1039
00:26:47,029 --> 00:26:47,220
YOU'VE GOT YOUR OWN POLICE
1040
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,049
FORCE.
1041
00:26:49,069 --> 00:26:51,130
YOU HAVE NO PLANS TO REPLACE
1042
00:26:51,150 --> 00:26:52,200
THEM WITH RAPID RESPONSE
1043
00:26:52,220 --> 00:26:53,250
SOCIAL WORKERS.
1044
00:26:53,269 --> 00:26:55,170
SO YOU'RE SET NO MATTER WHAT
1045
00:26:55,190 --> 00:26:55,240
HAPPENS.
1046
00:26:55,259 --> 00:26:56,170
THERE AREN'T GOING TO BE ANY
1047
00:26:56,190 --> 00:26:58,069
RAPES ON YOUR STREET.
1048
00:26:58,089 --> 00:27:00,000
BUT WHAT ABOUT EVERYONE ELSE?
1049
00:27:00,019 --> 00:27:04,279
WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO THEM?
1050
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,250
>> John: OKAY, FIRST OF ALL --
1051
00:27:06,269 --> 00:27:08,029
IN ALL SINCERITY -- TUCKER, YOU
1052
00:27:08,049 --> 00:27:08,220
SEEM NERVOUS.
1053
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:09,210
THIS IS A DIFFICULT MOMENT, AND
1054
00:27:09,230 --> 00:27:10,279
I REALLY HOPE YOU'RE TAKING TIME
1055
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,019
FOR YOURSELF, WHETHER IT'S
1056
00:27:12,039 --> 00:27:13,230
THROUGH MEDITATION, YOGA, OR
1057
00:27:13,250 --> 00:27:15,150
JUST KIDDING, FUCK YOU FOREVER,
1058
00:27:15,170 --> 00:27:18,279
TUCKER CARLSON, YOU SENTIENT
1059
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,220
POLO MALLET!
1060
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,059
SECOND: GIVEN THE SHOCKINGLY
1061
00:27:22,079 --> 00:27:23,069
LOW NUMBER OF RAPE CASES THAT
1062
00:27:23,089 --> 00:27:24,000
ACTUALLY RESULT IN CHARGES,
1063
00:27:24,019 --> 00:27:25,069
MUCH LESS CONVICTIONS, I REALLY
1064
00:27:25,089 --> 00:27:28,009
WOULDN'T BE HOLDING THAT UP AS
1065
00:27:28,029 --> 00:27:29,109
PROOF THAT OUR CURRENT SYSTEM IS
1066
00:27:29,130 --> 00:27:30,099
WORKING WELL.
1067
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,210
AND FINALLY: DEFUNDING THE
1068
00:27:32,230 --> 00:27:35,029
POLICE ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT MEAN
1069
00:27:35,049 --> 00:27:36,259
THAT WE ELIMINATE ALL COPS AND
1070
00:27:36,279 --> 00:27:38,259
JUST SUCCUMB TO "THE PURGE."
1071
00:27:38,279 --> 00:27:40,039
INSTEAD, IT'S ABOUT MOVING AWAY
1072
00:27:40,059 --> 00:27:41,250
FROM A NARROW CONCEPTION OF
1073
00:27:41,269 --> 00:27:43,009
"PUBLIC SAFETY" THAT RELIES ON
1074
00:27:43,029 --> 00:27:44,140
POLICING AND PUNISHMENT, AND
1075
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,099
INVESTING IN A COMMUNITY'S
1076
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,079
ACTUAL "SAFETY NET" -- THINGS
1077
00:27:47,099 --> 00:27:48,250
LIKE STABLE HOUSING,
1078
00:27:48,269 --> 00:27:50,029
MENTAL-HEALTH SERVICES, AND
1079
00:27:50,049 --> 00:27:51,269
COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS.
1080
00:27:51,289 --> 00:27:53,109
THE CONCEPT IS THAT THE ROLE OF
1081
00:27:53,130 --> 00:27:54,289
THE POLICE CAN THEN
1082
00:27:55,009 --> 00:27:58,119
SIGNIFICANTLY SHRINK, BECAUSE
1083
00:27:58,140 --> 00:27:59,039
THEY ARE NOT RESPONDING TO THE
1084
00:27:59,059 --> 00:28:00,240
HOMELESS, OR TO MENTAL-HEALTH
1085
00:28:00,259 --> 00:28:02,259
CALLS, OR ARRESTING CHILDREN IN
1086
00:28:02,279 --> 00:28:03,150
SCHOOLS, OR ANY OTHER SITUATION
1087
00:28:03,170 --> 00:28:05,059
WHERE THE BEST SOLUTION ISN'T
1088
00:28:05,079 --> 00:28:09,269
SOMEONE SHOWING UP WITH A GUN.
1089
00:28:09,289 --> 00:28:11,029
THAT IS THE IDEA BEHIND "DEFUND
1090
00:28:11,049 --> 00:28:13,039
THE POLICE," IF YOU ACTUALLY
1091
00:28:13,059 --> 00:28:14,000
LISTEN TO IT.
1092
00:28:14,019 --> 00:28:14,289
WHICH SUGGESTS TUCKER CARLSON
1093
00:28:15,009 --> 00:28:15,210
HAS THE EXACT LEVEL OF
1094
00:28:15,230 --> 00:28:16,220
UNDERSTANDING ABOUT
1095
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,130
THE BLACK LIVES MATTER MOVEMENT
1096
00:28:18,150 --> 00:28:19,099
THAT YOU'D EXPECT FROM A MAN WHO
1097
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,180
ALWAYS LOOKS LIKE HE JUST SAW
1098
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,180
HIS FIRST BLACK BARBIE AND FEELS
1099
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,250
CONFUSED, BUT MOSTLY SCARED.
1100
00:28:24,269 --> 00:28:26,160
AND LOOK, AS WE KNOW, MANY
1101
00:28:26,180 --> 00:28:27,200
POLICE WILL LIKELY RESIST ANY
1102
00:28:27,220 --> 00:28:29,170
REDISTRIBUTION, HARD.
1103
00:28:29,190 --> 00:28:31,029
POLICE UNIONS OFTEN PAINT
1104
00:28:31,049 --> 00:28:32,069
THEMSELVES AS ESSENTIAL,
1105
00:28:32,089 --> 00:28:35,130
AND EVERYTHING ELSE AS SOMEHOW
1106
00:28:35,150 --> 00:28:35,210
FRIVOLOUS.
1107
00:28:35,230 --> 00:28:37,019
IN FACT, REMEMBER BOB KROLL?
1108
00:28:37,039 --> 00:28:38,150
WHEN MINNEAPOLIS ASKED HIS UNION
1109
00:28:38,170 --> 00:28:44,089
TO ACCEPT A PAY FREEZE DUE TO
1110
00:28:44,109 --> 00:28:44,259
COVID-19, HERE IS HOW HE
1111
00:28:44,279 --> 00:28:45,220
REACTED:
1112
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:46,190
>> THE FIRST THING WE SAID WAS,
1113
00:28:46,210 --> 00:28:47,119
OKAY, LET'S SEE THE BUDGET,
1114
00:28:47,140 --> 00:28:51,029
LET'S SEE THE CITY BUDGET.
1115
00:28:51,049 --> 00:28:51,210
AND GUYS, THEY'RE PISSING AWAY
1116
00:28:51,230 --> 00:28:52,099
MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
1117
00:28:52,119 --> 00:28:53,039
TO PROJECTS.
1118
00:28:53,059 --> 00:28:54,029
LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GIVING
1119
00:28:54,049 --> 00:28:54,289
$15,000 A YEAR TO THE
1120
00:28:55,009 --> 00:28:56,009
TRANSGENDER COORDINATOR
1121
00:28:56,029 --> 00:29:00,130
FOR THE CITY.
1122
00:29:00,150 --> 00:29:02,089
>> John: ALL RIGHT.
1123
00:29:02,109 --> 00:29:03,059
SO, LET'S SET ASIDE
1124
00:29:03,079 --> 00:29:04,119
THAT TRANSGENDER PEOPLE ARE
1125
00:29:04,140 --> 00:29:06,279
OFTEN HARASSED -- AND MORE THAN
1126
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:07,160
HALF REPORT SPECIFICALLY BEING
1127
00:29:07,180 --> 00:29:08,180
MISTREATED BY THE POLICE.
1128
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:09,190
AND INSTEAD, CONSIDER THAT
1129
00:29:09,210 --> 00:29:11,029
THE BUDGET FOR THE MINNEAPOLIS
1130
00:29:11,049 --> 00:29:12,029
POLICE DEPARTMENT IS
1131
00:29:12,049 --> 00:29:12,269
$193 MILLION, MEANING THAT
1132
00:29:12,289 --> 00:29:14,170
$15,000 AMOUNTS TO 0.008% OF
1133
00:29:14,190 --> 00:29:16,269
THEIR ANNUAL BUDGET.
1134
00:29:16,289 --> 00:29:18,269
AND IF THAT'S PISSING MONEY
1135
00:29:18,289 --> 00:29:19,289
AWAY, THE CITY SHOULD SEE A
1136
00:29:20,009 --> 00:29:21,099
FUCKING UROLOGIST.
1137
00:29:21,119 --> 00:29:22,220
BUT GUYS LIKE BOB ROLLING HIS
1138
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:23,240
EYES AT ANYTHING
1139
00:29:23,259 --> 00:29:26,240
TRANSGENDER-RELATED IS EXACTLY
1140
00:29:26,259 --> 00:29:27,079
WHY IT'S TIME FOR OUR
1141
00:29:27,099 --> 00:29:28,160
CONVERSATION TO GO BEYOND
1142
00:29:28,180 --> 00:29:29,130
"HOW SHOULD THE POLICE DO THEIR
1143
00:29:29,150 --> 00:29:29,240
JOBS?"
1144
00:29:29,259 --> 00:29:31,089
TO "WHAT, REALLY, DO WE WANT
1145
00:29:31,109 --> 00:29:34,289
THE ROLE OF THE POLICE TO BE?"
1146
00:29:35,009 --> 00:29:36,119
AND TOO MANY STILL SEEM TO THINK
1147
00:29:36,140 --> 00:29:37,160
THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE OF A FEW
1148
00:29:37,180 --> 00:29:39,130
BAD ACTORS.
1149
00:29:39,150 --> 00:29:41,009
IN FACT, JUST LISTEN TO ONE
1150
00:29:41,029 --> 00:29:42,000
OFFICER UNSUCCESSFULLY TO TRY TO
1151
00:29:42,019 --> 00:29:46,000
MAKE THAT ARGUMENT TO SOME
1152
00:29:46,019 --> 00:29:46,230
PROTESTORS JUST THIS WEEK.
1153
00:29:46,250 --> 00:29:47,140
>> ONE BAD HAMBURGER AT
1154
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,089
McDONALD'S DOES NOT MAKE
1155
00:29:48,109 --> 00:29:50,259
McDONALD'S BAD.
1156
00:29:50,279 --> 00:29:53,250
>> WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT MEAN?
1157
00:29:53,269 --> 00:29:55,009
>> John: YEAH, THAT
1158
00:29:55,029 --> 00:29:56,000
PROTESTOR'S RIGHT:
1159
00:29:56,019 --> 00:29:57,039
WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT MEAN?
1160
00:29:57,059 --> 00:29:58,029
BECAUSE ONE BAD HAMBURGER SHOULD
1161
00:29:58,049 --> 00:29:59,099
MEAN A HEALTH INSPECTION.
1162
00:29:59,119 --> 00:30:00,210
A FEW BAD HAMBURGERS MIGHT MEAN
1163
00:30:00,230 --> 00:30:01,150
THAT McDONALD'S IS GETTING SHUT
1164
00:30:01,170 --> 00:30:02,200
DOWN.
1165
00:30:02,220 --> 00:30:03,289
AND BAD HAMBURGERS REGULARLY
1166
00:30:04,009 --> 00:30:05,049
KILLING PEOPLE ON THE STREET
1167
00:30:05,069 --> 00:30:06,250
WOULD MEAN THAT WE'D ALL MAYBE
1168
00:30:06,269 --> 00:30:08,180
CONSIDER GOING FUCKING VEGAN.
1169
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,289
THIS CLEARLY ISN'T ABOUT
1170
00:30:11,009 --> 00:30:12,200
INDIVIDUAL OFFICERS; IT'S ABOUT
1171
00:30:12,220 --> 00:30:16,069
A STRUCTURE, BUILT ON SYSTEMIC
1172
00:30:16,089 --> 00:30:17,059
RACISM THAT THIS COUNTRY CREATED
1173
00:30:17,079 --> 00:30:18,119
INTENTIONALLY AND NOW NEEDS TO
1174
00:30:18,140 --> 00:30:22,210
DISMANTLE INTENTIONALLY.
1175
00:30:22,230 --> 00:30:24,000
AND REPLACE WITH ONE THAT TAKES
1176
00:30:24,019 --> 00:30:25,190
INTO THE ACCOUNT THE NEEDS OF
1177
00:30:25,210 --> 00:30:26,079
THE PEOPLE THAT IT ACTUALLY
1178
00:30:26,099 --> 00:30:26,200
SERVES.
1179
00:30:26,220 --> 00:30:27,220
AND THIS IS GOING TO TAKE
1180
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,000
SUSTAINED PRESSURE AND
1181
00:30:29,019 --> 00:30:30,079
ATTENTION OVER A LONG PERIOD OF
1182
00:30:30,099 --> 00:30:31,029
TIME FROM ALL OF US.
1183
00:30:31,049 --> 00:30:33,019
BLACK COMMUNITIES HAVE HAD TO BE
1184
00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:34,140
PERPETUAL ACTIVISTS WHILE ALSO
1185
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,279
ROUTINELY BEING DISENFRANCHISED.
1186
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,059
IT'S LONG PAST TIME THE REST OF
1187
00:30:38,079 --> 00:30:39,079
US JOINED TO MAKE SURE THEIR
1188
00:30:39,099 --> 00:30:43,180
VOICES ARE HEARD.
1189
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,109
AND ACTED UPON.
1190
00:30:44,130 --> 00:30:45,140
BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE FAR TOO
1191
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,160
EASY FOR NOTHING TO MEANINGFULLY
1192
00:30:46,180 --> 00:30:52,000
CHANGE HERE.
1193
00:30:52,019 --> 00:30:52,269
THAT IS WHAT HAS ALWAYS HAPPENED
1194
00:30:52,289 --> 00:30:53,200
BEFORE.
1195
00:30:53,220 --> 00:30:54,190
AFTER THE UNREST IN THE LATE
1196
00:30:54,210 --> 00:30:55,079
'60S, A COMMISSION WAS SET UP TO
1197
00:30:55,099 --> 00:30:56,269
INVESTIGATE AND ISSUE ADVICE.
1198
00:30:56,289 --> 00:30:59,170
MANY OF ITS CONCLUSIONS RESEMBLE
1199
00:30:59,190 --> 00:31:00,119
IDEAS -- LIKE POLICE
1200
00:31:00,140 --> 00:31:02,059
DEMILITARIZATION AND BROAD
1201
00:31:02,079 --> 00:31:02,230
REINVESTMENT IN MARGINALIZED
1202
00:31:02,250 --> 00:31:03,119
COMMUNITIES -- THAT ARE STILL
1203
00:31:03,140 --> 00:31:04,259
BEING PUSHED TODAY.
1204
00:31:04,279 --> 00:31:08,210
TESTIFYING BEFORE THAT
1205
00:31:08,230 --> 00:31:09,220
COMMISSION WAS
1206
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,269
THE SOCIAL SCIENTIST
1207
00:31:10,289 --> 00:31:11,220
KENNETH CLARK, MADE THIS
1208
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,190
OBSERVATION, WHICH REMAINS
1209
00:31:12,210 --> 00:31:13,049
DEPRESSINGLY TRUE.
1210
00:31:13,069 --> 00:31:15,069
HE SAID, "I READ THE REPORT OF
1211
00:31:15,089 --> 00:31:16,240
THE 1919 RIOT IN CHICAGO, AND IT
1212
00:31:16,259 --> 00:31:17,150
IS AS IF I WERE READING THE
1213
00:31:17,170 --> 00:31:19,000
REPORT OF THE INVESTIGATING
1214
00:31:19,019 --> 00:31:20,069
COMMITTEE OF THE HARLEM RIOT OF
1215
00:31:20,089 --> 00:31:21,119
1935, THE REPORT OF THE
1216
00:31:21,140 --> 00:31:22,259
INVESTIGATING COMMITTEE OF THE
1217
00:31:22,279 --> 00:31:24,089
HARLEM RIOT OF 1943, THE REPORT
1218
00:31:24,109 --> 00:31:26,029
OF THE McCONE COMMISSION OF THE
1219
00:31:26,049 --> 00:31:27,130
WATTS RIOT OF 1965.
1220
00:31:27,150 --> 00:31:29,230
I MUST AGAIN IN CANDOR SAY TO
1221
00:31:29,250 --> 00:31:31,119
YOU, IT IS A KIND OF "ALICE IN
1222
00:31:31,140 --> 00:31:32,259
WONDERLAND" WITH THE SAME MOVING
1223
00:31:32,279 --> 00:31:35,069
PICTURE RESHOWN OVER AND OVER
1224
00:31:35,089 --> 00:31:36,259
AGAIN, THE SAME ANALYSIS, THE
1225
00:31:36,279 --> 00:31:38,069
SAME RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE
1226
00:31:38,089 --> 00:31:42,039
SAME INACTION."
1227
00:31:42,059 --> 00:31:43,089
WE'RE IN THE SAME SHIT NOW THAT
1228
00:31:43,109 --> 00:31:44,140
WE WERE IN BACK THEN.
1229
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,119
AND IF YOU ARE NOT DIRECTLY
1230
00:31:46,140 --> 00:31:47,240
IMPACTED BY IT, IT IS TEMPTING
1231
00:31:47,259 --> 00:31:48,220
TO LOOK FOR A REASON TO FEEL
1232
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,039
BETTER ABOUT THE WORLD.
1233
00:31:50,059 --> 00:31:51,130
TO LOOK AT SOME COPS KNEELING
1234
00:31:51,150 --> 00:31:52,049
AND THINK, "OH, WELL, WE JUST
1235
00:31:52,069 --> 00:31:54,049
NEED MORE OF THAT!"
1236
00:31:54,069 --> 00:31:55,259
BUT WE NEED SO MUCH MORE THAN
1237
00:31:55,279 --> 00:31:56,259
THAT.
1238
00:31:56,279 --> 00:31:59,250
BECAUSE WE LIVE IN A FIRMLY
1239
00:31:59,269 --> 00:32:02,029
ENTRENCHED SYSTEM, IN WHICH
1240
00:32:02,049 --> 00:32:08,200
THE ROOTS OF WHITE SUPREMACY RUN
1241
00:32:08,220 --> 00:32:10,150
ALL GRAB A FUCKING SHOVEL.
1242
00:32:10,170 --> 00:32:11,029
TO DO ANYTHING LESS WOULD BE
1243
00:32:11,049 --> 00:32:11,250
ABSOLUTELY UNFORGIVABLE.
1244
00:32:11,269 --> 00:32:17,049
AND ACTUALLY, TO THAT POINT,
1245
00:32:17,069 --> 00:32:18,019
THERE IS ONE PERSON I SAW THIS
1246
00:32:18,039 --> 00:32:18,269
WEEK WHOSE WORDS HAVE BEEN
1247
00:32:18,289 --> 00:32:19,170
ECHOING AROUND MY HEAD.
1248
00:32:19,190 --> 00:32:23,089
AND YOU'VE BEEN LISTENING TO ME
1249
00:32:23,109 --> 00:32:24,079
TALK FOR A WHILE NOW, SO NOW I'M
1250
00:32:24,099 --> 00:32:25,000
GOING TO GIVE HER THE LAST WORD
1251
00:32:25,019 --> 00:32:25,170
TONIGHT:
1252
00:32:25,190 --> 00:32:26,250
>> SO, WHEN THEY SAY, "WHY DO
1253
00:32:26,269 --> 00:32:27,170
YOU BURN DOWN THE COMMUNITY?
1254
00:32:27,190 --> 00:32:28,200
WHY DO YOU BURN DOWN YOUR OWN
1255
00:32:28,220 --> 00:32:29,119
NEIGHBORHOOD?"
1256
00:32:29,140 --> 00:32:32,130
IT'S NOT OURS!
1257
00:32:32,150 --> 00:32:34,269
WE DON'T OWN ANYTHING!
1258
00:32:34,289 --> 00:32:37,009
WE DON'T OWN ANYTHING.
1259
00:32:37,029 --> 00:32:39,009
THERE IS -- TREVOR NOAH SAID IT
1260
00:32:39,029 --> 00:32:39,259
SO BEAUTIFULLY LAST NIGHT --
1261
00:32:39,279 --> 00:32:41,230
THERE'S A SOCIAL CONTRACT THAT
1262
00:32:41,250 --> 00:32:44,059
WE ALL HAVE, THAT IF YOU STEAL
1263
00:32:44,079 --> 00:32:46,150
OR IF I STEAL, THEN THE PERSON
1264
00:32:46,170 --> 00:32:47,150
WHO IS THE AUTHORITY COMES IN
1265
00:32:47,170 --> 00:32:48,279
AND THEY FIX THE SITUATION.
1266
00:32:49,009 --> 00:32:50,170
BUT THE PERSON WHO FIXES THE
1267
00:32:50,190 --> 00:32:52,089
SITUATION IS KILLING US.
1268
00:32:52,109 --> 00:32:53,200
SO THE SOCIAL CONTRACT IS
1269
00:32:53,220 --> 00:32:55,240
BROKEN.
1270
00:32:55,259 --> 00:32:57,220
AND IF THE SOCIAL CONTRACT IS
1271
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,160
BROKEN, WHY THE FUCK DO I GIVE
1272
00:32:59,180 --> 00:33:01,180
A SHIT ABOUT BURNING THE FUCKING
1273
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:02,190
FOOTBALL HALL OF FAME, ABOUT
1274
00:33:02,210 --> 00:33:04,059
BURNING A FUCKING TARGET?
1275
00:33:04,079 --> 00:33:05,279
YOU BROKE THE CONTRACT WHEN YOU
1276
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,059
KILLED US IN THE STREETS AND
1277
00:33:07,079 --> 00:33:08,190
DIDN'T GIVE A FUCK!
1278
00:33:08,210 --> 00:33:10,220
YOU BROKE THE CONTRACT
1279
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,009
FOR 400 YEARS.
1280
00:33:12,029 --> 00:33:12,190
WE PLAYED YOUR GAME AND BUILT
1281
00:33:12,210 --> 00:33:14,019
YOUR WEALTH.
1282
00:33:14,039 --> 00:33:15,160
YOU BROKE THE CONTRACT WHEN WE
1283
00:33:15,180 --> 00:33:17,200
BUILT OUR WEALTH, AGAIN, ON OUR
1284
00:33:17,220 --> 00:33:20,039
OWN BY OUR BOOTSTRAPS IN TULSA
1285
00:33:20,059 --> 00:33:23,009
AND YOU DROPPED BOMBS ON US.
1286
00:33:23,029 --> 00:33:23,279
WHEN WE BUILT IT IN ROSEWOOD AND
1287
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,019
YOU CAME IN AND YOU SLAUGHTERED
1288
00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:27,130
US.
1289
00:33:27,150 --> 00:33:29,039
YOU BROKE THE CONTRACT,
1290
00:33:29,059 --> 00:33:30,269
SO FUCK YOUR TARGET.
1291
00:33:30,289 --> 00:33:34,269
FUCK YOUR HALL OF FAME.
1292
00:33:34,289 --> 00:33:35,230
AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED,
1293
00:33:35,250 --> 00:33:37,279
THEY CAN BURN THIS BITCH
1294
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,200
TO THE GROUND AND IT STILL
1295
00:33:39,220 --> 00:33:41,109
WOULDN'T BE ENOUGH.
1296
00:33:41,130 --> 00:33:42,180
AND THEY ARE LUCKY THAT WHAT
1297
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,039
BLACK PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR IS
1298
00:33:44,059 --> 00:33:46,119
EQUALITY AND NOT REVENGE.
1299
00:33:46,140 --> 00:33:50,180
>> John: THAT'S OUR SHOW.
1300
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:51,029
THANKS FOR WATCHING.
1301
00:33:51,049 --> 00:33:53,250
GOOD NIGHT.
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