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[female on police radio]
3991 on the suspect.
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[indistinct talk on police radio]
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[male on police radio] Morning.
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This is a complete description
of the residence desired to be searched
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including the curtilage attached thereof.
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Being the premises occupied
or under the control of Jeffrey Epstein,
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white male, date of birth 1/20/53.
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This is your copy.
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When we are concluded,
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I will leave a list
of what items we're taking.
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[dramatic music]
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Seven months into the case,
detectives executed the search warrant
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at Mr. Epstein's residence.
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[Tim Malloy] They opened the doors
and went up the winding staircase
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into his ornate and bizarre world.
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Pictures of young kids half-naked.
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Nudes everywhere.
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One of the police officers who saw it
said that it was just really weird.
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Detectives also discovered
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a very bizarre steam room
and massage room setup.
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They actually found some computers
and equipment that remain in the house,
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but police suspected
most of Epstein's computer hard drives,
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and surveillance cameras, and videos
had already been taken out of the house.
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[Michael Reiter] There was space on a desk
where wires were hanging,
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but there was no computer.
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At that point, it was fairly clear to us
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that Mr. Epstein knew
that he was under investigation.
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Epstein had been tipped off.
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[sinister music]
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[Reiter] After the search warrant,
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it was disappointing to realize
that Epstein's house had been cleaned up.
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There were a lot of things
that had been removed.
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But there was still plenty of evidence
that was left.
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I think the most useful thing
that we learned
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was that the victims' accounts,
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detailed descriptionsÂ
of Mr. Epstein's home,
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where rooms were located,
the configuration of the home,
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validated what they had told us.
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There were memo pads of phone calls
that we seized
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that included contact information
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for some of the victims
and for some of the adult females
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that had been used to identify
and recruit the victims,
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so that was productive for us as well.
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[woman] The message pads that were taken
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from the investigation thatÂ
the Palm Beach Police Department did,
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they're very revealing.
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Individuals who were being called
or calling back in
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to come over for these sexual massages.
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For example, one has a redaction on it,
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meaning it was a minor
who was calling in, and it says,
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"She is wondering if 2:30 is okay.
She needs to stay in school."
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I think I took this case
much more seriously than other matters
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that I've handled,
in the sense that it was very personal.
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I do have a daughter. I have children.
I met with these victims.
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It was very personal,
the abuse that they suffered.
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I won't stop
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until the people who victimized
these individuals are held accountable.
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The age of consent in Florida is 18.
It does vary state to state,
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and in New York, for example, it's 17,
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but this really isn't a case
about consent.
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The point of these cases is
that there was no consent here.
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[Reiter] Seven months
into the investigation,
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we were all extremely frustrated
at the difficulty of this case.
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We applied whatever resources
were necessary to do the best job,
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to quickly be able to reach the point
that we could apply for arrest warrants.
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[man] Detectives that I talked to
said that they were tiptoeing,
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they were acting a little cautiously
because they knew there would be blowback.
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But also they were running into resistance
even among their own, among colleagues.
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Uh, they knew that there were people
who would protect
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any number of the residents on the island.
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And so, to go into a case like this,
you had to walk gingerly,
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you had to make sureÂ
that you held your information closely,
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and you had to be absolutely sure
that you were right.
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[Reiter] We found
that the victims ran the entire gamut
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from those that were thankful
that we contacted them,
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others who said that they were
in love with Jeffrey Epstein,
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and they were going to get married
to Jeffrey Epstein.
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Some victims that we contacted
had gone on to college
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who slammed the door
in the face of detectives.
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We were very surprised to learn
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these criminal activities had gone on
for a fairly long period of time,
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many years prior to the investigation.
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My name is Virginia Giuffre.
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When I was 16, I got a summer job
at Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago
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in Palm Beach.
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Uh, I was working there
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as a locker room attendant
in the spa area.
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At the time, I really wanted to become
a massage therapist.
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And not very long into working
at Mar-a-Lago,
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did an English lady come up to me.
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She introduced herself
as Ghislaine Maxwell.
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She was beautiful. She looked educated.
She was nice.
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She said, "Oh, that's interesting.
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You're reading a bookÂ
about massage therapy."
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And she said, "You know,
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I actually know this guy
who's looking for a traveling masseuse.
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You know, if you want,
you can come by this afternoon after work,
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and you can come meet him."
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I'd finished work around 5:00,
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and I pull up at this huge house,
this big mansion...
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and Ghislaine answers the door.
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I walk through the door,
and she's leading me up the staircase,
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and I'm looking around, you know.
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There's photographs everywhere
of important people.
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I could tell that, you know, like,
this guy has some friends in high places.
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And then we go into the massage room,
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and there's this massage bed
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with a naked man laying on top of it,
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face down.
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To me this is, I guess,
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walking into a world I didn't understand,
but I guess I'm gonna learn.
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Ghislaine shows me like,
"Put your lotion here on your hands."
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And then we did his feet,
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his calves...
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his back.
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While the massage was going on,
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they asked me questions about my life.
"So, who are you?"
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"What school do you go to?"
Um... "Tell me about yourself."
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You know, and that's when I felt like
I should open up and tell them, like,
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how much this opportunity means to me.
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My home life started out very hard
from a very young age.
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I'd been a runaway
and lived on the streets.
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I've been abused.
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I felt like it was okay to tell them
about my past.
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And then he turned over.
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[sinister music]
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[Virginia Giuffre] They asked me...
to please take off my clothes.
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Ghislaine started taking off her clothes.
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I didn't know what to do.
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I didn't know what was gonna happen
if I said no, if I screamed.
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I just... I did what they said.
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Ghislaine was behind and touching me.
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It went from oral sex to get on top.
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Still to this day, I don't know
how it went from something real
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to something perverted like that
so quickly.
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Afterwards,
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they said, "The interview went great.
You're going to come back tomorrow."
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And I did.
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I was abused plenty of times
before Epstein had done what he did to me.
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I had no self-esteem. I was scared
that my life was going to be worthless.
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I was the perfect victim for them.
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One thing that Epstein loved me for
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was that I never really asked
too many questions.
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I escalated up the ladder very quickly
with Epstein.
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I did whatever he needed,
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you know, put his socks onÂ
for him before bed, uh...
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make sure
what he needed sexually happened.
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I had to serve him all the time.
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They told me,
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"You're going to do so well.
You're going to travel the world.
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You're gonna meet people
that you'd never think you'd meet.
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We're gonna put you in circles
that you would never even understand."
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Jeffrey Epstein
and Ghislaine Maxwell had a great way
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of normalizing the abuse
that was going on.
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They kind of made it feel like
we were in this really deranged family.
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You know, we would sit back,
and we would watch movies together.
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We would go diving together.
We would go hiking together.
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We would go on 4Runners together.
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We would do so many cool activities
like that together.
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They kept saying,
"We will get you educated.
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You will become
a real massage therapist one day."
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But under the premise
that afterwards you're back to the abuse.
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And, unfortunately...
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I didn't see my life getting any better.
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So I stayed.
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It was like
I am now a slave to these people.
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And then I was trafficked.
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I was lent out to all of their friends.
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They were politicians.
They were businessmen.
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They were powerful people.
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It made me think that
if I had run and caused a ruckus,
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the police wouldn't have believed me,
they wouldn't have done anything about it,
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and Jeffrey and Ghislaine
could have hurt me really bad then.
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He did say like, "People owe me favors.
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I can get away with this.
I will never get caught.
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I own the Palm Beach Police Department."
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[James Patterson] Jeffrey Epstein
fits into that pattern
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of thinking that he's above the law,
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that he can do what he feels like doing.
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But the life of privilege and power
that Epstein lead
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is a far, far cry from the way
he was brought up.
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[children shouting, screaming]
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-[waves crashing]
-[seagulls squawking]
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[Patterson] Epstein was born
and raised in Coney Island, New York,
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which is very middle class,
lower middle class.
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Epstein was a very good student
in high school. He was a bright guy.
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He skipped a couple of grades
in high school, graduated in 1969.
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[lawyer] What college did you attend?
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Cooper Union.
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[lawyer] Did you get a degree
from Cooper Union?
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No, sir.
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[lawyer]
How many years were you in college?
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[tuts] I believe two.
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[lawyer] What'd you study?
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Physics.
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[lawyer] But isn't it true
that you were a teacher
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at the Dalton School in New York
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after college?
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[Patterson] The first mystery is
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how could Epstein get a job teaching
at Dalton without a college degree?
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This was probably the start
of Epstein's lifelong pattern
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of getting away with things
that most people can't.
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[man] In 1976,
Ace Greenberg was running Bear Stearns.
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One day, I was sitting in my office,
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and Ace Greenberg called me to say
that a trustee of the Dalton School
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had a young professor,
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Jeff Epstein,
who wanted to come to Wall Street,
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and Ace asked if I would interview him.
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Epstein was well-known as a good teacher
and somewhat of a ladies man,
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which didn't resonate at the time.
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After grilling Jeffrey a few times,
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I hired him to develop and market
our quantitative analyses for options.
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He was terrific at it.
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Epstein was very quick-witted.
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When, uh, something arose that
he might not have been able to predict,
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he dealt with it in an impressive fashion.
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That's a trait
of an effective salesperson.
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I was favorably impressed
that he could do the work.
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But this, I think, was one of my...
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important mistakes in my career.
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Epstein had been working for me
perhaps two months.
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The head of personnel called me.
He said, "Are you sitting down?
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Jeffrey Epstein lied on his résumé
about his education.
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None of his colleges
have ever heard of him."
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I was stunned.
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I hired a liar.
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Even worse, he was dating Ace's daughter.
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I went to Ace Greenberg.
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I wasn't sure
how he would want me to proceed,
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and Ace said,
"Treat him like anybody else."
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I was prepared to fire him.
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And this is where
his sales skills really resonated.
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When I told him he'd lied,
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he admitted it immediately.
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He just said,
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"I knew I couldn't get a job teaching
at a high-quality school
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if I didn't have
good educational credentials,
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so I wanted to get a chance."
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I said,
"Why didn't you tell us the truth?"
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He said, "Well, I was afraid
the Dalton School would hear about it
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and there would be problems."
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He said, "I wanted to."
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And he did it in a way
that was very convincing.
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He disarmed me.
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And I thought, "Do I want to play God
and throw him in the street,
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maybe destroy his potential?"
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Today, I wish I had.
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He had done well enough
that they made him a limited partner.
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But then a few years after that,
I heard he'd been fired
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for breaking some rules.
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I deeply regret giving Epstein
a second chance.
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That was my tragedy.
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Most of the victims did not want
to prosecute when we first contacted them.
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So once we had four or five victims
who were cooperative,
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we presented applications
for arrest warrants
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to the state attorney's office.
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From the time I first became police chief,
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I had an excellent relationship
with the state attorney,
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Barry Krischer.
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The first time that I talked
about the case against Epstein with him,
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I explained that we had about
40-some victims who were in their teens,
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early teens in some cases,
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who had sex with an adult male in his 50s.
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He said he didn't know Jeffrey Epstein
and he remarked,
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"We'll put him away for the rest
of his life. It's an easy case."
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[sinister music]
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[Marc Fisher] Jeffrey Epstein, both
through his money and his connections,
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was able to assemble
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an extraordinary dream team
of at least eight defense lawyers
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who were known throughout the country
and throughout their industry
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as the absolute best.
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From Clinton impeachment lawyer,
Kenneth Starr,
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the top defense lawyers of South Florida,
people like Roy Black,
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New Yorkers like Jay Lefkowitz
and Gerald Lefcourt
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to Harvard Law School Professor
Alan Dershowitz.
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[Alan Dershowitz] I was born to be
a criminal defense lawyer.
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If you want to be a defense attorney,
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you can't be concerned
about what people think of you.
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So, I did represent Claus von BĂŒlow,
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O.J. Simpson, and Mike Tyson,
and Leona Helmsley, and Patricia Hearst,
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and so many other people.
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My relationship
with Jeffrey Epstein was academic
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and lawyer-client...
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but it was a close academic friendship.
For example, when I would write books,
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I would only send themÂ
to a handful of people.
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He was one of them
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because he would seriously read
every word I wrote,
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and he would have comments
and criticisms.
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Jeffrey Epstein called me, I think,
the day he got the first indications,
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and the first indications were merely
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that one or two of the women
may have been 17,
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and may have lied about their age,
had given him false documentation.
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He asked me if I would help represent him.
I said I couldn't represent him myself,
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I'm not a member of the Florida bar,
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but that I would help him
put together a legal team, and I did.
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[Fisher] Detectives quickly learned
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that Epstein was on to them
and that he was organizing a defense.
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And, in fact,
he was organizing an offense.
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Jeffrey Epstein's attorneys were looking
into what the detectives were doing,
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who they were, what their pasts were,
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whether there were any peccadilloes
that would make them vulnerable to attack.
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[Reiter] There was surveillance of me
for months,
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round-the-clock surveillance
of Detective Recarey,
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around-the clock picking up of his trash
at his home and my trash.
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And the reason that it happened
to the degree that it did
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is because Mr. Epstein had
the resources to do that.
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In fact, we found private investigators
going through the trash
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at the police station.
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So we stopped putting the reports
in the computer
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and actually had them kept separately.
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[Malloy] A few months
after Chief Michael Reiter hands over
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the evidence to his close friend
Barry Krischer,
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Reiter notes an alarming difference
in Krischer's attitude towards Epstein.
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Krischer had all but said to his friend
Chief Michael Reiter,
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"We're gonna string him up.
You had a really solid case."
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And then suddenly,
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the teeth seems to go out
of the investigation,
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at least on the side of the state attorney
who was supposed to be prosecuting this.
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[Reiter] I had been speaking
with Mr. Krischer along the way,
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and the state attorney's officeÂ
started saying,
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"Look, these victims will not make
good witnesses.
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Yes, these victims, most of them,
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received financial compensation for, uh,
the sexual contact with Mr. Epstein,
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but no child can consent to have sex
with an adult."
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But we were never able
to really convince the prosecutors
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that that didn't matter.
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[Malloy] In a release,
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a high-powered local attorney
Jack Goldberger, Epstein's attorney,
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emphasized the grand jury in this
questioned the credibility of the girls
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and therefore limited their charges
simply to solicitation of prostitution.
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Epstein is out on bond,
and he is not talking.
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[woman] I've been a reporter
at The Palm Beach Post for about 16 years.
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I think nobody knew anything
until 2006, and then it just...
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[makes explosion sound] It exploded.
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Epstein's attorneys went
after the victims viciously.
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I mean, their depositions
that I've read were just, I mean, hideous.
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I remember one
where he asked one of the young girls,
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"Is it true you've had three abortions?"
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And then they asked the girl,
"Well, what's worse,
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having three abortions or giving
sexual massages to Jeffrey Epstein?"
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It was just brutal
what they did to these women.
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[Dershowitz] You must bring out
all the negatives.
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You have to present the full picture.
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Their credibility may be subject
to question because of their backgrounds,
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but it has nothing to do
with blaming them.
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It's the role of the defense attorney
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to raise questions
about the credibility of any witnesses.
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We don't look at what's good for victims.
We don't look at anything
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except what's good for our client,
ethically and legally.
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[woman] I've been
with the TV station in Palm Beach County
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for almost 23 years now.
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The Jeffrey Epstein story is
as big as it gets.
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So when the story broke,
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we started realizing
the gravity of a Palm Beach billionaire
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and the accusations
that we were starting to hear,
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we were quickly on the air
with this story,
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but Epstein's team wanted this to go away.
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There were weekly phone calls to reporters
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with threats to make the story go away.
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"You don't want to do this.
You shouldn't be looking into this."
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And it was mystifying
to the Palm Beach Police Department
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because they had all this evidence.
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[reporter] Palm Beach Police think
prostitution charges brought against
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billionaire socialite Jeffrey Epstein
don't go far enough.
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Investigators think prosecutors
should have gone after Epstein
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on charges of unlawful sex with a minor.
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So why didn't they?
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[Reiter] We were all extremely frustrated.
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Once we knew
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that the one charge was going to be
the extent of the state's prosecution,
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I wrote the parents of all the victims
and told them that
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I did not feelÂ
that justice was sufficiently served,
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and that I was referring the case
to the FBI.
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[Jane Musgrave]
It's highly unusual for a police chief
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to sidestep the state attorney's office,
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and go directly to the feds,
and demand an investigation.
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I don't know
that I have ever heard of that,
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and I think that's one of the many,
many odd things about this case.
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[Shannon Cake]
Any investigator or investigation,
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the first thing you're going to do is
look back in time and see:
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Has this happened before?
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Are there other claims?
Are there other victims?
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The FBI actually found two women
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who had accused Epstein
a decade earlier, in 1996.
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Maria Farmer, an artist,
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and her younger sister, Annie.
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[Maria Farmer] In 1996,
following the assault
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by Jeffrey and Ghislaine,
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I came back to New York...
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and then I found out that they knew
that I'd reported them to the FBI.
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Ghislaine called and said
she was going to burn all my art,
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and burn my career and destroy it,
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she was entirely socially connected,
and that I was screwed.
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She told me I needed to watch my back,
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that, "I know you like to go running
on the West Side Highway,
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and that's not going to be
a safe place for you anymore,
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because there are a lot of ways to die
on the West Side Highway."
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From that point on, over many years,
I would move, I would relocate,
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and a couple of months would go by,
and I would be moving in,
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and Ghislaine... Ghislaine would call me.
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She would say she knew where I lived.
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She would say
that same kinds of veiled threats like...
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"You're not safe where you are.
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You might want to check
over your shoulder."
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Finally, in 2006, I was living
in the mountains of North Carolina.
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I was hiding.
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I had changed my name.
I had an alias...
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and I get a knock on the door,
and it's this man and this woman,
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and they show me their badge, they're FBI,
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and this woman said,
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"This is about your 1996 FBI report,
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and we're following up
because we're going to get him.
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We're going to get them."
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[Annie Farmer] The FBI came,
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and they interviewed me,
and they interviewed my sister,
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and we told them our stories.
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And so we just thought,
"Oh, my gosh! They're really...
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You know, they're doing a thorough job.
They're looking at people in other places.
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They're recognizing that this is
a more systemic issue,
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and they are... You know,
he's gonna be held accountable."
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[Shawna Rivera] I talked to the FBI,
and they're like,
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"We're here to save you."
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And they assured me
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that they were going to protect me,
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and that they needed me to tell them
everything that happened.
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And they would help
as many victims as they can.
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[Sigrid McCawley]
I think a lot of the families,
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when they came to learn
what had happened to their daughters,
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reached out to attorneys to try
to help them navigate this circumstance,
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because obviously
there was a criminal aspect to it,
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there was a civil aspect to it,
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and they were also facing somebody
who is incredibly powerful,
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incredibly wealthy,
incredibly intimidating,
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so they needed lawyers to help them
through that process.
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[man] The first time I heard
Jeffrey Epstein's name
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was when I had my own law firm
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dedicated to representing crime victims
in civil cases.
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A friend of mine from Jacksonville,
who was also a lawyer,
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he called me and said
that he had received a call from a girl.
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And that was Courtney Wild.
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Courtney came to my office.
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Then she told me
how she went into his house
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and told me what happened there.
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[woman] I was 14
when I was introduced to Jeffrey Epstein.
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It was eighth grade summer,
going from eighth grade to high school.
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From sixth, seventh and eighth grade,
I was a straight-A student.
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I never even got a B.
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I played the trumpet.
I was captain of the cheerleading squad...
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but then from eighth grade to ninth grade,
things fell apart for me and my family.
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Just from, um... my mom's addiction.
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She was sick, battling her own demons,
wasn't really able to care for me,
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and I was basically homeless
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and living at friends' houses
and stuff like that.
454
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,513
When I first went to Jeffrey's,
455
00:29:04,597 --> 00:29:07,558
I really was expecting
I was going to make easy money
456
00:29:07,641 --> 00:29:09,226
giving this guy a massage.
457
00:29:09,727 --> 00:29:12,938
And that situation escalated
to him molesting me.
458
00:29:14,482 --> 00:29:18,194
It happened so quick where it's like,
"What just happened?"
459
00:29:19,528 --> 00:29:22,948
But being vulnerable at 14 years old,
460
00:29:23,032 --> 00:29:29,038
and trying to handle life on my own,
it was just overwhelming, so...
461
00:29:29,455 --> 00:29:31,916
um, I did continue
to go back to Jeffrey's.
462
00:29:32,416 --> 00:29:34,168
He made me feel like,
463
00:29:34,251 --> 00:29:38,672
you know, basically, I was lucky to be
in his presence.
464
00:29:38,756 --> 00:29:44,845
It was just a glorified manipulation thing
he had going on and that worked.
465
00:29:48,265 --> 00:29:51,811
It was maybe the second time
I went to him or the third.
466
00:29:52,186 --> 00:29:54,313
He asked me, do I have any friends,
467
00:29:54,396 --> 00:29:55,940
can I bring anybody?
468
00:29:56,023 --> 00:29:59,860
And he would give me $200
and the person $200.
469
00:30:01,570 --> 00:30:04,698
In my time frame of going
for three to four years,
470
00:30:04,782 --> 00:30:07,201
I at least brought him
about 40 to 60 girls.
471
00:30:08,577 --> 00:30:11,622
I know that this is wrong, this is crazy,
472
00:30:11,705 --> 00:30:15,709
but I just became okay with that
because of what he offered me.
473
00:30:15,793 --> 00:30:19,463
He offered me cash. He offered me a way
474
00:30:19,964 --> 00:30:21,674
so I could eat and pay my bills,
475
00:30:21,757 --> 00:30:24,552
and he offered me something
that nobody else did.
476
00:30:26,220 --> 00:30:27,888
I felt like he was my lifeline.
477
00:30:37,565 --> 00:30:39,733
[Courtney Wild] So, in the beginning
of the investigation
478
00:30:39,817 --> 00:30:42,194
when the police were reaching out to me,
479
00:30:42,278 --> 00:30:43,362
I was confused.
480
00:30:43,445 --> 00:30:47,825
I felt like I had this painting of Jeffrey
that he was this awesome man,
481
00:30:48,158 --> 00:30:50,619
that he actually saved my life
in a sense,
482
00:30:50,703 --> 00:30:53,539
that I was very lucky
to ever be introduced to him.
483
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,919
But then I see the police reports of girls
that I had brought to Jeffrey's,
484
00:30:59,503 --> 00:31:00,546
close friends,
485
00:31:01,255 --> 00:31:03,632
and that made me have the change of heart.
486
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,343
The emotions come over
487
00:31:06,927 --> 00:31:09,763
of, like, guilt, and shame, and disgust.
488
00:31:10,306 --> 00:31:11,473
It was traumatic.
489
00:31:12,683 --> 00:31:13,934
That's when I started saying,
490
00:31:14,018 --> 00:31:16,770
"Okay, this isn't right.
Something needs to happen about this."
491
00:31:18,606 --> 00:31:22,443
So I find Brad Edwards, my attorney.
492
00:31:23,527 --> 00:31:26,322
[Brad Edwards] I told her, "You don't
really have much to worry about.
493
00:31:26,947 --> 00:31:31,160
This is somebody
who is not ever going to be free again."
494
00:31:31,619 --> 00:31:34,371
She said, "But I don't think
you understand the level of power he has."
495
00:31:35,789 --> 00:31:37,082
It's just unheard of.
496
00:31:37,166 --> 00:31:40,085
It's just an unbelievable scheme
to have kept going
497
00:31:40,169 --> 00:31:42,296
for that long of a period of time.
498
00:31:42,838 --> 00:31:44,590
I've never heard anything like this
499
00:31:44,673 --> 00:31:47,927
where somebody was able to set up
basically a pyramid scheme,
500
00:31:48,010 --> 00:31:50,095
a molestation pyramid scheme.
501
00:31:54,224 --> 00:31:55,601
Hey, do you have the victim chart?
502
00:31:55,684 --> 00:31:57,269
-The chart that we created?
-Yeah.
503
00:31:59,063 --> 00:32:01,190
Well, this is when we were first...
504
00:32:02,358 --> 00:32:04,777
trying to map out the case.
505
00:32:05,444 --> 00:32:06,570
We had to prove
506
00:32:07,112 --> 00:32:11,700
that this pyramid of underage girls
in Palm Beach...
507
00:32:12,660 --> 00:32:13,702
was true.
508
00:32:14,328 --> 00:32:18,666
It didn't start from just a random
underage girl walking into the house.
509
00:32:19,291 --> 00:32:21,835
Ghislaine Maxwell was
one of the recruiters
510
00:32:21,919 --> 00:32:24,880
of the underage girls for Jeffrey Epstein.
511
00:32:24,964 --> 00:32:27,049
The other recruiters that were identified
512
00:32:27,132 --> 00:32:28,592
were Sarah Kellen,
513
00:32:28,676 --> 00:32:30,386
Nadia Marcinkova,
514
00:32:30,469 --> 00:32:31,929
Adriana Mucinska,
515
00:32:32,012 --> 00:32:34,306
and we just started tracking
516
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:39,061
if this person, which name is
not identified right now,
517
00:32:39,144 --> 00:32:41,271
was an underage girl.
518
00:32:41,647 --> 00:32:42,731
"Who did you bring?"
519
00:32:43,315 --> 00:32:45,526
And then from that person
we would bridge down,
520
00:32:45,609 --> 00:32:46,694
"How many did you bring?"
521
00:32:46,777 --> 00:32:49,571
And she would name
the other five or six people.
522
00:32:49,655 --> 00:32:53,117
This was something
that we assembled in about 30 days
523
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,371
and realized that this chart could go off
like a spider web
524
00:32:57,454 --> 00:33:01,083
for, you know,
five times as big as this chart.
525
00:33:03,711 --> 00:33:06,505
[McCawley] So at the top of
the pyramid scheme was Ghislaine Maxwell,
526
00:33:06,588 --> 00:33:08,549
who was really Epstein's right-hand person
527
00:33:08,632 --> 00:33:11,760
with helping to recruit
these individuals for sexual abuse.
528
00:33:13,887 --> 00:33:16,640
[Vicky Ward] Jeffrey and Ghislaine
met in New York.
529
00:33:17,683 --> 00:33:21,186
Jeffrey Epstein's really an introvert.
530
00:33:21,562 --> 00:33:27,901
Ghislaine is a much more charming person
than Jeffrey is.
531
00:33:27,985 --> 00:33:29,111
She's an extrovert.
532
00:33:29,945 --> 00:33:33,532
I think he revels in being
this man of mystery,
533
00:33:33,991 --> 00:33:37,536
who almost can't be bothered
to dress properly.
534
00:33:37,619 --> 00:33:39,830
He can't be bothered to go to restaurants,
535
00:33:40,581 --> 00:33:43,292
and he likes the sort of intrigue
that that creates about him.
536
00:33:44,001 --> 00:33:46,712
Ghislaine is a very engaging person.
537
00:33:46,795 --> 00:33:49,882
She's extremely charismatic and bubbly.
538
00:33:51,383 --> 00:33:56,847
Her father, Robert Maxwell, had been
an incredibly big figure in England.
539
00:33:57,222 --> 00:34:00,267
He was a big newspaper publisher.
540
00:34:00,684 --> 00:34:04,313
In fact, he'd been something of a con man
and a fraudster,
541
00:34:04,396 --> 00:34:06,148
but he'd lived a huge life.
542
00:34:07,232 --> 00:34:11,403
When Ghislaine came to New York,
543
00:34:11,487 --> 00:34:14,198
her whole world had fallen apart.
544
00:34:14,782 --> 00:34:19,661
Her father,
who she was incredibly attached to...
545
00:34:20,370 --> 00:34:23,415
had died in very murky circumstances,
546
00:34:23,499 --> 00:34:27,252
and also his entire reputation
had been shattered.
547
00:34:29,171 --> 00:34:35,135
Jeffrey, in a way, felt like a safe haven
for her. Here was...
548
00:34:36,011 --> 00:34:40,849
another very rich man
to sort of replace her father.
549
00:34:45,062 --> 00:34:49,858
[sinister music]
550
00:34:55,197 --> 00:34:58,408
[man] I've been covering Wall Street
since at least 1991.
551
00:34:59,409 --> 00:35:03,288
You know, Jeffrey Epstein was
always someone whose name popped up,
552
00:35:03,789 --> 00:35:05,749
but I couldn't really nail it down.
553
00:35:05,958 --> 00:35:07,167
He was a cipher.
554
00:35:08,669 --> 00:35:11,130
People I know on Wall Street leave trails.
555
00:35:11,588 --> 00:35:13,423
His trail was elusive.
556
00:35:14,299 --> 00:35:16,760
So it was just sort of odd
that here was this guy
557
00:35:16,844 --> 00:35:19,054
that people talked about a lot,
558
00:35:19,346 --> 00:35:21,682
that didn't have much of a footprint
in the investment world.
559
00:35:22,808 --> 00:35:26,895
That's the mystery of Jeffrey Epstein.
You know, how did he make money?
560
00:35:32,901 --> 00:35:35,320
[man] I deeply regret
561
00:35:35,696 --> 00:35:37,322
that I met Jeffrey Epstein,
562
00:35:37,614 --> 00:35:42,286
who is somebody that has haunted me
for over 30 years.
563
00:35:43,787 --> 00:35:47,332
Without me, he wouldn't beÂ
the billionaire he is today,
564
00:35:47,416 --> 00:35:49,835
and these poor girls would not be raped.
565
00:35:49,918 --> 00:35:54,840
And I'm here for redemption
and to tell the story to the public.
566
00:35:55,799 --> 00:35:56,967
[car horn beeping]
567
00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:02,181
[Steven Hoffenberg]
I met Jeff Epstein in the '80s
568
00:36:02,973 --> 00:36:06,268
after he was thrown out of Bear Stearns.
569
00:36:06,935 --> 00:36:10,355
I was the CEO
of Towers Financial Corporation.
570
00:36:12,983 --> 00:36:18,363
[Ward] Steve Hoffenberg
and Jeffrey were both self-made guys.
571
00:36:18,780 --> 00:36:23,035
But when Jeffrey met him,
Hoffenberg was the sort of... the mogul.
572
00:36:23,118 --> 00:36:27,206
He was the one flying around
in private planes.
573
00:36:27,289 --> 00:36:30,375
He was the one with the wealth.
574
00:36:32,461 --> 00:36:35,631
[Hoffenberg]
The CEO of a very large company
575
00:36:35,714 --> 00:36:38,467
who had employed Jeffrey Epstein in Europe
576
00:36:38,842 --> 00:36:41,720
called me and said,
"This is a brilliant man
577
00:36:41,803 --> 00:36:45,015
that we'd like you to interview
for North America
578
00:36:45,432 --> 00:36:50,270
because he has credentials on Wall Street,
and he's loaded with energy,
579
00:36:50,562 --> 00:36:53,065
but his moral compass is upside down."
580
00:36:53,941 --> 00:36:59,404
Jeffrey Epstein had cheated
and stolen money on his expense account.
581
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,908
He definitely appealed to us,
582
00:37:02,991 --> 00:37:05,994
because we were running a Ponzi scheme.
[chuckles]
583
00:37:06,828 --> 00:37:08,205
And he understood Wall Street,
584
00:37:08,288 --> 00:37:14,628
and he could deliver substantial results
in this criminal enterprise.
585
00:37:16,672 --> 00:37:21,551
So I interviewed Jeffrey Epstein,
and he took control of the interview.
586
00:37:21,885 --> 00:37:25,555
He's got a gift that's extraordinary,
587
00:37:25,639 --> 00:37:28,809
where he controls the people he meets
588
00:37:28,892 --> 00:37:32,437
and manipulates them totally
with his charisma.
589
00:37:45,492 --> 00:37:49,621
[Hoffenberg] Jeffrey Epstein became
my partner in crime,
590
00:37:49,705 --> 00:37:52,874
backing me up, leading the advance,
591
00:37:52,958 --> 00:37:57,170
doing the crimes alongside me daily.
592
00:37:57,671 --> 00:38:01,341
He took over the securities side,
593
00:38:01,842 --> 00:38:03,844
the fake assets side.
594
00:38:04,136 --> 00:38:06,054
He was manipulating stock price
595
00:38:06,596 --> 00:38:08,765
and trading stock illegally.
596
00:38:11,435 --> 00:38:16,064
[Ward] People involved
certainly remembered Jeffrey
597
00:38:16,148 --> 00:38:19,860
as being incredibly important in coming up
598
00:38:20,235 --> 00:38:22,446
with how the scheme would work.
599
00:38:24,364 --> 00:38:27,951
Then the law caught up
to this massive scam.
600
00:38:30,495 --> 00:38:34,750
[Hoffenberg] I stood up, plead guilty,
and accepted the responsibility.
601
00:38:35,167 --> 00:38:38,462
My sentence was
for 20 years in federal prison...
602
00:38:39,796 --> 00:38:43,425
and I didn't turn evidence against him
603
00:38:43,508 --> 00:38:48,388
because Jeffrey Epstein
told me he was a cooperating witness
604
00:38:48,472 --> 00:38:51,600
for the United States
Department of Justice in the past
605
00:38:52,017 --> 00:38:54,102
and he had traction with them.
606
00:38:54,561 --> 00:38:59,900
I believe that Jeffrey Epstein
would have been able to discredit me
607
00:38:59,983 --> 00:39:03,820
and say he was the White Knight
and he was immaculate,
608
00:39:04,321 --> 00:39:06,823
and I knew that was his plan.
609
00:39:08,658 --> 00:39:13,914
You can't grasp the magnitude
of this man's controlling effect.
610
00:39:13,997 --> 00:39:19,002
Jeffrey Epstein was able to control
and manipulate people
611
00:39:19,544 --> 00:39:21,630
in an extreme method.
612
00:39:22,839 --> 00:39:24,591
That was typical Jeffrey Epstein.
613
00:39:25,592 --> 00:39:28,720
It's very clear that
that is Jeffrey's MO,
614
00:39:28,804 --> 00:39:33,975
is to hold things over people,
hold their secrets over people, I suspect.
615
00:39:34,434 --> 00:39:36,353
Um, you know, there's a pattern here.
616
00:39:38,146 --> 00:39:43,193
[Hoffenberg] Jeffrey Epstein's methods
started with Leslie Wexner
617
00:39:43,527 --> 00:39:47,739
when Jeffrey Epstein sold
his soul to Leslie Wexner
618
00:39:47,823 --> 00:39:50,158
for several billion dollars of investment.
619
00:39:58,959 --> 00:40:04,423
[man] Jeff Epstein met Les Wexner
somewhere around 1986.
620
00:40:08,844 --> 00:40:11,555
This is Mr. Wexner's gate house,
621
00:40:12,013 --> 00:40:15,225
and beyond that gate house is
a massive compound
622
00:40:15,308 --> 00:40:19,229
and the most expensive house
in central Ohio.
623
00:40:21,398 --> 00:40:25,986
Les Wexner started out in 1963
624
00:40:26,403 --> 00:40:30,532
opening the women's fashion
apparel shop, The Limited.
625
00:40:31,241 --> 00:40:34,161
Les bought various other brands,
626
00:40:34,786 --> 00:40:38,039
Abercrombie & Fitch
and Victoria's Secret.
627
00:40:38,874 --> 00:40:42,335
Through all of that,
became a multi-billionaire.
628
00:40:43,336 --> 00:40:47,841
At some point,Â
Les Wexner provided a power of attorney
629
00:40:47,924 --> 00:40:51,761
to Jeffrey Epstein
over his financial affairs.
630
00:40:53,096 --> 00:40:57,976
I was astonished
because Les Wexner is not the kind of guy
631
00:40:58,059 --> 00:41:01,521
who gives up control over anything.
632
00:41:02,063 --> 00:41:04,983
Epstein was this Svengali figure
633
00:41:05,066 --> 00:41:09,196
that seems to have
some unexplainable grip,
634
00:41:09,279 --> 00:41:11,615
uh, over this titan of industry.
635
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,661
There are people in the late '80s,
early '90s
636
00:41:16,745 --> 00:41:20,207
that referred to EpsteinÂ
as "the boyfriend."
637
00:41:22,250 --> 00:41:27,047
[Hoffenberg] Jeffrey Epstein was working
with both of us at the same time.
638
00:41:28,173 --> 00:41:32,010
He was going to Ohio regularly on a jet
639
00:41:32,093 --> 00:41:35,555
that was provided to Jeffrey
by Leslie Wexner.
640
00:41:37,224 --> 00:41:41,269
Epstein explained to me personally
641
00:41:41,353 --> 00:41:47,692
that he could control the emotions
of Leslie Wexner easily
642
00:41:48,068 --> 00:41:51,279
because Leslie Wexner was fascinated
643
00:41:51,363 --> 00:41:54,866
and Wexner totally adored Epstein.
644
00:41:55,867 --> 00:41:58,036
[Edwards]
Do you consider yourself to be bisexual?
645
00:41:59,454 --> 00:42:00,789
-No.
-[Edwards] Okay.
646
00:42:01,873 --> 00:42:05,335
In any even, you did develop
a sexual relationship
647
00:42:05,418 --> 00:42:08,171
with Leslie Wexner at some point in time,
is that true?
648
00:42:08,255 --> 00:42:09,089
No.
649
00:42:11,091 --> 00:42:16,179
[Hoffenberg] Epstein told me
how he planned to manipulate and control
650
00:42:16,263 --> 00:42:20,100
Leslie Wexner's fortune
of billions of dollars
651
00:42:20,433 --> 00:42:25,188
so that Jeffrey Epstein could invest
652
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,733
and make substantial income.
653
00:42:41,454 --> 00:42:43,915
In 2019, Les Wexner revealed
654
00:42:43,999 --> 00:42:47,002
that he had cut ties with Epstein
back in 2007.
655
00:42:48,336 --> 00:42:52,340
He said he discovered Epstein had stolen
more than 46 million dollars from him.
656
00:42:52,424 --> 00:42:54,384
He didn't explain
why he didn't press charges.
657
00:42:56,386 --> 00:42:58,096
[Les Wexner] Being taken advantage of
658
00:42:58,597 --> 00:43:02,309
by someone who was, uh, so sick,
659
00:43:02,392 --> 00:43:05,103
so cunning, uh, so depraved...
660
00:43:05,562 --> 00:43:06,438
uhm...
661
00:43:06,896 --> 00:43:10,692
is something that I'm embarrassed
that I was even close to.
662
00:43:18,950 --> 00:43:23,538
[sinister music]
663
00:43:28,501 --> 00:43:30,587
[woman] I was, uh, a model and actress.
664
00:43:30,670 --> 00:43:32,213
[man] Alicia! What's up?
665
00:43:32,756 --> 00:43:34,382
[Alicia Arden] When my friend said,
666
00:43:34,466 --> 00:43:37,761
"This guy can get you
in the Victoria's Secret catalog,"
667
00:43:37,844 --> 00:43:38,970
I jumped.
668
00:43:40,430 --> 00:43:45,644
Jeffrey Epstein was staying at Shutters
hotel in Santa Monica, California.
669
00:43:45,727 --> 00:43:47,896
So I met him at his hotel room.
670
00:43:48,271 --> 00:43:51,441
He said he knowsÂ
the owner of Victoria's Secret.
671
00:43:51,858 --> 00:43:55,403
So he started opening
my portfolio of pictures...
672
00:43:56,363 --> 00:43:57,656
and then he said,
673
00:43:57,739 --> 00:43:59,866
"Let me see you in your bra
and underwear."
674
00:43:59,949 --> 00:44:05,330
Then he started putting his hands on me
and my hips and my butt.
675
00:44:06,706 --> 00:44:11,127
I really felt at the time
that I was going to be raped or attacked.
676
00:44:11,544 --> 00:44:13,505
I ran out of the room crying.
677
00:44:15,006 --> 00:44:18,843
I drove to the Santa Monica
Police Department to file a police report.
678
00:44:21,096 --> 00:44:23,390
I don't remember him
ever being investigated.
679
00:44:23,473 --> 00:44:24,683
No one called me.
680
00:44:26,226 --> 00:44:28,103
He didn't get in trouble over it.
681
00:44:28,561 --> 00:44:32,065
It was like nothing really ever happened.
682
00:44:48,248 --> 00:44:51,418
[man] I've been a private
investigator now for about ten years,
683
00:44:51,501 --> 00:44:54,671
but I'd say 80% of my job is...
684
00:44:55,588 --> 00:44:57,549
on the street finding information.
685
00:44:58,633 --> 00:45:01,553
When I started working on this case
for Brad Edwards,
686
00:45:02,303 --> 00:45:07,016
he told me that the FBI is doing
a parallel case,
687
00:45:07,100 --> 00:45:08,977
but they really don't have much.
688
00:45:09,227 --> 00:45:11,938
It was just really going along slow.
689
00:45:12,981 --> 00:45:16,317
I'm a fan of the FBI.
I work very closely with them.
690
00:45:16,943 --> 00:45:19,529
So I said, "Well, okay.
Maybe I can speed it up for them."
691
00:45:20,113 --> 00:45:22,782
I had one daughter at the time
when I started working the case
692
00:45:22,866 --> 00:45:24,033
who was 21,
693
00:45:24,617 --> 00:45:27,036
and one daughter was 15.
694
00:45:29,581 --> 00:45:31,791
It didn't only make me think
about my own daughters,
695
00:45:31,875 --> 00:45:34,836
it made me think about all the years
I spent in law enforcement
696
00:45:34,919 --> 00:45:40,425
that I had to interview abused girls
or girls that were victims of a pedophile
697
00:45:40,759 --> 00:45:43,303
and how broken these girls became.
698
00:45:46,931 --> 00:45:51,770
These are the girls that I have been able
to identify myself that were victims,
699
00:45:52,145 --> 00:45:54,355
thirteen, and 14, and 15 years old.
700
00:45:54,814 --> 00:45:56,900
As you can see,
there's a volume of them.
701
00:45:58,359 --> 00:46:01,780
I started going to the depressed areas
of West Palm Beach,
702
00:46:01,863 --> 00:46:03,573
to these neighborhoods,
703
00:46:03,656 --> 00:46:05,617
and I would meet someone,
704
00:46:06,117 --> 00:46:09,496
or one of the girls that Brad
was representing would know someone,
705
00:46:09,579 --> 00:46:10,914
give me a lead,
706
00:46:10,997 --> 00:46:15,293
and that's how I started finding girl
after girl after girl.
707
00:46:16,586 --> 00:46:20,507
I think I must have foundÂ
like 46 other girls that were assaulted.
708
00:46:21,049 --> 00:46:23,760
Some of the victims were very reluctant
to talk to me,
709
00:46:23,843 --> 00:46:26,137
but I was at least able
to get their names,
710
00:46:26,221 --> 00:46:29,766
who they were and where they lived,
which I later gave to the FBI.
711
00:46:29,849 --> 00:46:33,228
[sinister music]
712
00:46:37,482 --> 00:46:38,525
Everybody feared him,
713
00:46:38,608 --> 00:46:42,612
and fear was his greatest asset.
714
00:46:42,695 --> 00:46:45,073
I mean,
that's what gave him his power.
715
00:46:46,491 --> 00:46:49,536
So I took it upon myself
as civil prosecutor,
716
00:46:49,619 --> 00:46:53,289
and I served Jeffrey Epstein
for a deposition
717
00:46:53,540 --> 00:46:56,251
and tried to achieve justiceÂ
for the victims.
718
00:46:58,127 --> 00:47:00,964
[Edwards] Mr. Epstein,
how long have you beenÂ
719
00:47:01,047 --> 00:47:04,300
sexually attracted
to underage minor females?
720
00:47:05,009 --> 00:47:07,262
[lawyer] Objection.
Harassing, argumentative.
721
00:47:07,345 --> 00:47:08,429
Are you kidding?
722
00:47:11,140 --> 00:47:15,019
[Edwards] No, I mean, I don't feel like
I'm divulging any secrets here, right?
723
00:47:16,855 --> 00:47:17,939
[lawyer] Move to strike.
724
00:47:19,732 --> 00:47:23,653
I was starting to really get
on Jeffrey Epstein's nerves for sure.
725
00:47:23,736 --> 00:47:25,905
There's no doubt. Was I trying to?
726
00:47:26,406 --> 00:47:27,240
I guess so.
727
00:47:29,075 --> 00:47:30,034
[Edwards] Mr. Epstein?
728
00:47:30,118 --> 00:47:30,952
Yeah.
729
00:47:31,536 --> 00:47:33,830
[Edwards]
Were you sexually abused as a minor?
730
00:47:35,957 --> 00:47:37,000
Wait, say that again?
731
00:47:37,375 --> 00:47:39,669
[Edwards]
Were you sexually abused as a minor?
732
00:47:39,919 --> 00:47:43,298
[sighs] You know, I'd like to...
Again, I'd like to respond to all your...
733
00:47:43,381 --> 00:47:45,592
If any questions seem to be relevant,
734
00:47:45,675 --> 00:47:48,928
but I would like to respond
to any relevant question at this time.
735
00:47:49,012 --> 00:47:52,307
However, my attorneys have counseled me
that I cannot provide answers
736
00:47:52,390 --> 00:47:54,767
to the questions relevant
to this lawsuit today.
737
00:47:55,226 --> 00:47:58,229
I must accept their advice
or risk losing my Sixth Amendment right
738
00:47:58,313 --> 00:47:59,898
to effective representation.
739
00:48:00,565 --> 00:48:04,569
Accordingly then, I assert my Fifth,
Sixth, and Fourteenth Amendment rights
740
00:48:04,652 --> 00:48:06,404
in the United States Constitution.
741
00:48:14,203 --> 00:48:15,246
[Mike Fisten] Pretty soon,
742
00:48:15,330 --> 00:48:18,666
Epstein's investigators started
conducting surveillance on Brad.
743
00:48:19,208 --> 00:48:21,920
They were trying to find out
744
00:48:22,003 --> 00:48:26,132
if they can catch Brad doing
anything wrong after hours,
745
00:48:26,215 --> 00:48:28,968
during hours, then try to blackmail him.
746
00:48:31,054 --> 00:48:32,138
But then,
747
00:48:32,221 --> 00:48:36,017
it became intimidation because
they started surveilling Brad's house,
748
00:48:36,726 --> 00:48:38,186
where his wife and kids live.
749
00:48:39,103 --> 00:48:42,398
[Edwards] When my wife noticed that
somebody was following her, I thought,
750
00:48:42,482 --> 00:48:45,944
"Okay, it's just getting out of hand.
Now that's my family."
751
00:48:46,861 --> 00:48:50,531
He tried to intimidate me
into just abandoning my clients,
752
00:48:50,823 --> 00:48:53,576
which I was never going to do.
That was never going to happen.
753
00:48:56,621 --> 00:48:58,623
[Reiter] They were investigating
the victims as well.
754
00:48:58,706 --> 00:49:01,626
We had several victims report to us that
755
00:49:01,709 --> 00:49:07,173
people posing as law enforcement officers
were contacting the victims and...
756
00:49:08,049 --> 00:49:10,218
in some cases, intimidating them.
757
00:49:10,301 --> 00:49:12,720
[sinister music]
758
00:49:16,557 --> 00:49:17,892
[Rivera] I started noticing
759
00:49:17,976 --> 00:49:20,561
there were cars
that would sit at the end of my street.
760
00:49:20,645 --> 00:49:23,481
I had these people constantly watching me.
761
00:49:24,357 --> 00:49:27,735
So I called my attorney,
and I told him what was going on.
762
00:49:28,152 --> 00:49:29,195
Brad figured out
763
00:49:29,278 --> 00:49:32,573
that most of these vehicles
were actually private investigators
764
00:49:32,657 --> 00:49:34,701
that were following and watching me.
765
00:49:35,994 --> 00:49:37,662
While she was sleeping in her bed,
766
00:49:37,745 --> 00:49:39,872
Jeffrey Epstein's investigators
set their car up
767
00:49:39,956 --> 00:49:41,457
across the street from her house,
768
00:49:41,541 --> 00:49:44,919
and just shined their bright lights
through her window all night.
769
00:49:48,047 --> 00:49:50,383
[Rivera] So Brad sent Mike Fisten over.
770
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,886
They had this private investigator war,
771
00:49:53,970 --> 00:49:57,098
cameras against one another,
recording each other.
772
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,809
[Fisten] When I showed up,
he was still here.
773
00:49:59,892 --> 00:50:01,436
I took pictures of his car,
774
00:50:01,811 --> 00:50:03,938
and then I took pictures of him
in his car.
775
00:50:04,147 --> 00:50:06,524
With me there looking at him,
776
00:50:07,066 --> 00:50:08,401
he's still videotaping.
777
00:50:09,736 --> 00:50:11,946
It was really... It was kind of scary.
778
00:50:12,488 --> 00:50:16,242
Mike puts me in his car and he says,
"We're going to get out of here."
779
00:50:16,325 --> 00:50:17,618
[Fisten] Don't follow her.
780
00:50:20,580 --> 00:50:24,876
[Rivera] And he drove me like hours
down south and like put me in a hotel,
781
00:50:25,376 --> 00:50:28,296
where I hid
and was basically just told like,
782
00:50:28,379 --> 00:50:30,715
"Your family's going to be safer
if you're not home
783
00:50:30,798 --> 00:50:33,718
because they're not gonna...
harass you now."
784
00:50:35,053 --> 00:50:38,765
Why do I have to make my family...
785
00:50:39,682 --> 00:50:44,437
safe from somebody
who should be sitting in jail?
786
00:50:45,021 --> 00:50:47,023
[insects buzzing and chirping]
787
00:50:50,443 --> 00:50:52,487
[birds chirping]
788
00:51:00,286 --> 00:51:02,121
[Reiter]
This was a cooperative investigation
789
00:51:02,205 --> 00:51:04,916
between the FBI
and the US attorney's office.
790
00:51:05,416 --> 00:51:08,503
Although we were not
an official partner to the investigation,
791
00:51:08,586 --> 00:51:10,004
they kept us informed.
792
00:51:10,088 --> 00:51:13,883
We cooperated, we introduced them
to the victims that we knew of,
793
00:51:14,133 --> 00:51:17,220
we gave them
all of the background information,
794
00:51:17,303 --> 00:51:20,890
and what's written between the lines
that doesn't appear in a report.
795
00:51:21,849 --> 00:51:25,186
[Fisten] The agent on the case,
Kuyrkendall, is a great agent.
796
00:51:25,937 --> 00:51:30,191
And she put together this case
against this pedophile
797
00:51:30,691 --> 00:51:35,238
that was going to put him in prison
the rest of his life
798
00:51:35,321 --> 00:51:37,532
if he just gets convicted of one count.
799
00:51:37,615 --> 00:51:40,743
The government had a plethora
of information at their fingertips.
800
00:51:40,827 --> 00:51:44,288
They had 35 to 40 different victims
that were willing to give testimony.
801
00:51:44,872 --> 00:51:48,584
They had information showing victims
being transported across state lines,
802
00:51:48,668 --> 00:51:51,629
whether it be in private planes
or on commercial flights.
803
00:51:51,712 --> 00:51:54,966
So, they had
a 53-page indictment prepared
804
00:51:55,383 --> 00:51:57,885
because they had
just an immense amount of information
805
00:51:57,969 --> 00:51:59,804
that they could charge Epstein with.
806
00:52:01,180 --> 00:52:04,517
[Reiter] I asked
for an appointment with Alex Acosta.
807
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,396
Alex Acosta at the time
was the US attorney.
808
00:52:09,772 --> 00:52:14,193
I met with him and his team
in Mr. Acosta's office.
809
00:52:14,277 --> 00:52:18,364
I told them that I would like to know
from them
810
00:52:18,447 --> 00:52:21,409
that they were going
to prosecute this case,
811
00:52:21,492 --> 00:52:26,414
and follow through with it,
and, uh, get justice for the victims.
812
00:52:26,998 --> 00:52:29,917
I left my meeting
with Alex Acosta thinking
813
00:52:30,001 --> 00:52:33,337
that Jeffrey Epstein would go to jail
for the rest of his life.
814
00:52:34,380 --> 00:52:37,717
[sinister music]
815
00:52:41,262 --> 00:52:43,347
The case had been turned over
to the federal government
816
00:52:43,431 --> 00:52:44,390
for more than two years,
817
00:52:45,099 --> 00:52:46,976
but I hadn't heard anything.
818
00:52:47,310 --> 00:52:51,731
I just want to know what's going on,
so I call and speak with Marie Villafaña
819
00:52:51,814 --> 00:52:53,482
of the US attorney's office,
820
00:52:53,566 --> 00:52:57,612
and she confirmed
that this is a massive case.
821
00:52:57,695 --> 00:53:00,948
I started asking when she thought
a trial was actually going to happen,
822
00:53:01,449 --> 00:53:04,243
and I remember her telling me that,
823
00:53:04,535 --> 00:53:06,329
"There's just a lot that I want
to tell you,
824
00:53:06,412 --> 00:53:10,041
and I know that your heart's
in the right place, and mine is too.
825
00:53:10,124 --> 00:53:13,502
There's a lot that I want to tell you,
Brad, that I can't tell you."
826
00:53:13,961 --> 00:53:16,797
And that's when I started thinking
something was going on.
827
00:53:18,007 --> 00:53:21,761
[Reiter] Suddenly,
when we'd call the FBI agents,
828
00:53:21,844 --> 00:53:23,971
they would tell us
they were forbidden to talk
829
00:53:24,055 --> 00:53:27,225
with any representative of Palm Beach
Police Department about the case.
830
00:53:27,308 --> 00:53:29,894
It's the only time that ever happened
in my 30 years
831
00:53:29,977 --> 00:53:31,520
as a law enforcement officer.
832
00:53:34,690 --> 00:53:37,235
[male reporter]
Epstein's personal 727 aircraft
833
00:53:37,318 --> 00:53:40,363
arrived at PBIA from Newark at 5:00 p.m.
834
00:53:40,613 --> 00:53:42,949
The investor,
traveling with a small entourage,
835
00:53:43,032 --> 00:53:46,827
was met at the private Galaxy Aviation
by a black Escalade and a driver.
836
00:53:47,119 --> 00:53:49,247
Sources tell News Channel 5
that Kenneth Starr,
837
00:53:49,330 --> 00:53:53,209
now a top lawyer in Los Angeles,
will arrive here tomorrow morning.
838
00:53:54,460 --> 00:53:58,881
[Fisten] The US attorney Acosta
met with Jeffrey Epstein's lawyers.
839
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,678
The next thing,
not only was the indictment gone,
840
00:54:03,761 --> 00:54:06,138
the FBI case was stopped.
841
00:54:06,222 --> 00:54:08,474
So the FBI agents were shook up...
842
00:54:09,225 --> 00:54:14,105
very upset,
and started voicing their opposition...
843
00:54:14,814 --> 00:54:16,232
to what had occurred.
844
00:54:17,441 --> 00:54:20,319
[Maria Farmer] The FBI agent,
Nesbitt Kuyrkendall,
845
00:54:20,403 --> 00:54:22,029
I was so impressed by her.
846
00:54:22,113 --> 00:54:25,908
She was very dedicated
to the women in Florida.
847
00:54:26,575 --> 00:54:29,996
She called me really upset one day,
and she said,
848
00:54:30,079 --> 00:54:34,000
"Maria, I know you're hesitant
about testifying because you're afraid,
849
00:54:34,333 --> 00:54:36,752
and I just want you to know
I don't know if it'll even matter
850
00:54:36,836 --> 00:54:39,046
'cause things are really falling apart."
851
00:54:39,130 --> 00:54:42,049
I contacted Kuyrkendall myself,
and she was in tears.
852
00:54:42,133 --> 00:54:47,305
She was actually crying on the phone,
in tears, that this happened.
853
00:54:47,638 --> 00:54:49,890
She felt so bad for these victims
854
00:54:49,974 --> 00:54:53,269
because she told these victims
she's going to put this guy away.
855
00:54:54,061 --> 00:54:59,483
Nobody knows why US Attorney Acosta
shut this case down.
856
00:55:00,985 --> 00:55:02,862
To me, that's bullshit.
73675