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♪ THE LATE LATE SHOW, OH, OH THE LATE LATE SHOW, OOH

♪ THE LATE LATE SHOW, OH, OH ♪ OH, OH

IT'S THE LATE LATE SHOW ♪

>> JAMES: GOOD EVENING LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WELCOME TO THE

"LATE LATE SHOW." ( SCREAMING )

"LATE LATE SHOW." ( SCREAMING )

SORRY, NOW THAT THAT'S OUT OF THE WAY.

HOW'S THE BAND.

YOU OKAY?

WANT TO LET ANYTHING OUT?

( SCREAMING ) GOOD.

WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

ON THE SHOW TONIGHT, WE'LL BE SPEAKING WITH THE INSPIRING

SENATOR FROM NEW JERSEY, CORY BOOKER AND THEN WE'VE GOT AN

INCREDIBLE PERFORMANCE FROM ONE OF OUR FAVORITES, JOSH GROBAN.

BUT FIRST, WE LIKE TO KICK OFF OUR SHOW WITH SOME THINGS TO

HELP MAKE YOUR NIGHT JUST A TOUCH BRIGHTER.

THREE THINGS, TO BE EXACT.

THIS IS "THREE THINGS."

♪ THREE THINGS ♪ REGGIE, WHAT'S FIRST?

>> REGGIE: NUMBER ONE.

>> JAMES: NUMBER ONE.

THE RECENT PROTESTS HAVE HAD FAR-REACHING EFFECTS FROM

RAISING MONEY TO HELP FIGHT INEQUALITY TO REFORMING THE

CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.

AND THEY'VE FINALLY HAD A MONUMENTAL IMPACT ON THE

PRESIDENT HIMSELF.

VICTOR WILLIS, ONE OF THE ORIGINAL MEMBERS OF THE VILLAGE

PEOPLE, TOLD DONALD TRUMP IN A POWERFULLY-WORDED FACEBOOK POST,

THAT, IN LIGHT OF HIS RESPONSE TO THE PROTESTS, THE VILLAGE

PEOPLE WILL NO LONGER ALLOW TRUMP TO USE THE SONGS,

"Y.M.C.A." OR "MACHO MAN," AT HIS RALLIES.

AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, DONALD TRUMP CONSISTENTLY

USED THE SONGS, "Y.M.C.A." AND "MACHO MAN" AT HIS RALLIES.

IT'S FINALLY HAPPENED, THE COPS TURNED ON TRUMP... AND THE

CONSTRUCTION WORKERS, AND THE COWBOYS, AND THE LEATHER

DADDIES?

BASICALLY, TRUMP CAN NO LONGER DO THIS:

♪ MACHO MACHO MAN ♪ ♪ I'VE GOT TO BE A MACHO MACHO

MAN ♪ ♪ I'VE GOT TO BE A MACHO MAN ♪

SINCE THE PRESIDENT CAN NO LONGER USE MACHO MAN AS HIS

WALK-UP MUSIC, HERE'S A SONG THAT ACTUALLY MIGHT BE MORE

APPROPRIATE: ( "BITCH" BY MEREDITH BROOKS )

♪ ♪

♪ ♪ I DO NOT FEEL ASHAMED ♪

AND NOW THAT "MACHO MAN" IS UP FOR GRABS...

( "MACHO MAN" PLAYING ) >> Reggie: WOW.

( "MACHO MAN" PLAYING ) >> Reggie: WOW.

>> James: YOU REMEMBER THAT, REG?

>> Reggie: I DON'T.

>> James: REMEMBER WHEN WE USED TO MAKE A SHOW?

THERE WERE PEOPLE AROUND?

WE WERE SO YOUNG THEN.

I'D LIKE ANOTHER NUMBER PLEASE.

>> REGGIE: NUMBER TWO.

>> JAMES: NUMBER TWO.

THIS WILL CHEER US UP.

AS MORE AND MORE PEOPLE EMERGE FROM THEIR QUARANTINES AND

RE-ENTER THE WORLD, AT FIRST IT MIGHT FEEL STRANGE.

THAT IS, UNTIL YOU GO OUTSIDE, TAKE A BREATH OF FRESH AIR, AND

HAPPEN UPON A MAN WALKING HIS PET GOOSE.

( LAUGHTER ) >> OH, NO, NO, NO, NO!

( LAUGHTER ) >> JAMES: HEY, GUY WHO WRAPS

SNAKES AROUND YOUR SHOULDERS, MOVE OVER, THERE'S A NEW WEIRDO

IN TOWN.

THAT LAUGH IS AMAZING.

IT'S THE MOST INFECTIOUS THING I THINK I'VE EVER HEARD.

YOU KNOW WHERE THAT LAUGH BELONGS.

>> OH, HO, HO, NO, NO, NO, NO!

( LAUGHTER ) AND REGGIE, THE FINAL NUMBER.

>> REGGIE: NUMBER THREE.

>> JAMES: FINALLY, IF YOU'VE BEEN ON THE INTERNET AT ALL

RECENTLY, YOU MAY HAVE HEARD THE TERM "KAREN" THROWN AROUND A

LOT.

IT REFERS TO A CERTAIN TYPE OF ENTITLED WHITE PERSON.

KARENS MOST OFTEN HAVE VERY AGGRESSIVE HAIRCUTS, MARK THEIR

TERRITORY WITH "LIVE, LAUGH, LOVE" SIGNS, AND CAN BE FOUND

ASKING FOR YOUR MANAGER AT CHILIS OVER A RIBLET DISPUTE.

KARENS WERE INTRODUCED TO THE WIDER WORLD MOST RECENTLY BY A

WOMAN WHO CALLED THE POLICE ON A BLACK MAN IN CENTRAL PARK WHO

WAS THERE BIRD WATCHING.

NO ONE WANTS TO BE A KAREN.

INCLUDING OUR BAND, WHO YOU PROBABLY HAD NO IDEA HAS BEEN

NAMED KAREN FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS.

BUT "KAREN" HAS REALLY LOST ITS APPEAL AS A NAME FOR A BAND.

AT THIS POINT, IT'S LIKE CALLING YOURSELVES DONALD TRUMP AND THE

SINGING MITCH MCCONNELLS.

THIS HAS BEEN BREWING FOR QUITE A WHILE AMONGST EVERY MEMBER OF

KAREN.

REGGIE, HOW DID YOU FEEL WHEN YOU SAW "KAREN" USED IN SUCH A

NEGATIVE WAY?

>> Reggie: AT FIRST, DWI I GUILLERMO BROUGHT IT UP AND I

JUST AGREED IMMEDIATELY.

>> James: THAT'S WHAT WE ALL DO.

WHAT HAPPENED, GUILLERMO.

WERE YOU, LIKE, GUYS, WE SHOULD CHANGE THE NAME?

>> AND TWO OF THE BAND MEMBERS DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I WAS TALKING

ABOUT.

THEY WILL REMAIN NAMELESS.

REGGIE AND -- >> YEAH, I HAD TO DO A LOT OF

RESEARCH MYSELF.

>> James: WHY DID YOU CALL THE BAND KAREN IN THE FIRST PLACE,

REG?

>> WELL, IT CAME FROM AN OLD BAND MACH 2.

MY KEYBOARDIST AND I WERE JOKING AROUND AND SAID IT WOULD BE

HILARIOUS TO HAVE A HARD CORE BAND NAMED KAREN BEHIND THEM AND

THEN ON FIRE.

>> James: YOU SAID YOU WANTED TO CALL THE BAND KAREN BEFORE WE

EVEN KNEW WHO THE BAND WERE GOING TO BE ON THE SHOW.

>> Reggie: YEAH.

>> James: TIM, HOW ARE YOU TAKING THE NEWS YOU WILL NO

LONGER WITH A MEMBER OF KAREN?

>> IT'S SHOCKING.

MY PARENTS ARE DISAPPOINTED.

THEY'VE GROWN VERY ATTACHED TO THE NAME.

>> James: THIS IS A MONUMENTAL DAY ON THE SHOW BECAUSE THE

AUDIENCE HAS FIRST HEARD THE BAND IS CALLED KAREN, THEY NOW

HAVE TO PROCESS WE'RE CHANGING THE NAME.

THIS IS THE MOMENT.

WE'RE READY FOR THE BIG REVEAL.

GUILLERMO, GIVE US A DRUM ROLL, PLEASE.

TELL US THE NEW NAME OF THE BAND.

( DRUM ROLL ) >> MISSA.

>> James: THAT'S IT!

WHAT A LET DOWN.

( LAUGHTER ) >> I'M RELIEVED.

>> James: THE BAND IS NOW CALLED MELISSA.

THERE YOU ARE.

IT'S AN AMAZING NAME.

I JUST WANT TO SAY TO ALL THE MELISSAS OUT THERE, BE COOL,

OKAY?

>> DON'T SCREW IT UP.

>> James: ON THAT NOTE, TAKING US OUT

TO BREAK, REGGIE WATTS AND MELISSA!

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH SENATOR CORY BOOKER.

♪ ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ ♪

>> JAMES: OUR GUEST TONIGHT IS A FORMER DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE

FOR PRESIDENT AND A SENATOR FROM THE GREAT STATE OF NEW JERSEY,

WE'RE HONORED HE'S JOINING US TONIGHT.

SENATOR CORY BOOKER IS HERE.

YOU'RE IN WASHINGTON, D.C. AT THE MOMENT, YES?

>> I AM IN WASHINGTON, D.C.

RIGHT NOW.

>> James: AND HOW ARE YOU HOLDING UP?

>> I THINK I'M LIKE EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTRY.

THIS HAS BEEN A PARTICULARLY TUMULTUOUS TIME THAT YOU FEEL

LIKE THE SOIL OF YOUR SOUL IS BEING TILED UP, TURNED OVER AND

YOUR EMOTIONAL AND -- YOU'RE EMOTIONAL AND GRIEVING IN MANY

WAYS AND HOPEFUL SOMEHOW SEEDS OF CHANGE ARE POSSIBLE DURING

THIS TIME OF HURT.

>> James: NOW, I'VE ONLY BEEN IN AMERICA FIVE YEARS, SINCE

I'VE LIVED HERE.

I'VE SEEN THROUGHOUT THIS TIME THAT THERE IS A CYCLICAL NATURE

TO THESE MOMENTS IN TIME.

DO YOU SEE ANYTHING DIFFERENT IN WHAT YOU'RE SEEING NOW THAT THIS

MIGHT BRING ABOUT ACTUAL CHANGE?

>> WELL, LOOK, THE CYCLICAL NATURE IN RECENT HISTORY,

UNFORTUNATELY, ALL STEMMING FROM JUST THE WRETCHED CORNERS OF OUR

HISTORY.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S NEVER BEEN A PERIOD OF AMERICAN HISTORY WHERE

POLICING WAS WONDERFUL.

>> James: YES.

IT'S ALWAYS BEEN SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN DISPROPORTIONATELY

IMPACTING COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES,

IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES.

THERE ARE REALLY DARK, WRETCHED PARTS OF OUR PAST THAT WE

HAVEN'T FULLY OWNED UP TO OR FULLY HAD THE COURAGE TO

CONFRONT.

AND, SO, THERE IS A LEVEL OF FATIGUE IN OUR GENERATION, AND,

YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE, I WATCHED A HUMAN BEING BEING

BEATEN WITH 50-PLUS BLOWS, RODNEY KING.

SO, CLEARLY, ON VIDEOTAPE, AND I'LL NEVER FORGET WHEN THAT

VERDICT AND THOSE POLICE OFFICERS WERE FOUND NOT GUILTY

FOR WHAT WAS CLEARLY A CRIME, I JUST REMEMBER IT WAS A MOMENT IN

MY LIFE, IN MY EARLY 20s, THAT I JUST -- I LOST CONTROL.

IN FACT, I WROTE A COLUMN IN STANFORD'S NEWSPAPER "WHY HAVE I

LOST CONTROL," AND IT WAS JUST A DECADE OF MY LIFE FROM THE TIME

I WAS IN THE SEVENTH AND EIGHTH GRADE WHERE I WAS A SIX-FOOT

TALL PRIX TEENAGER OR TEENAGER AND BEGAN TO REALIZE THE LESSONS

THAT THIS COUNTRY WILL LOOK AT YOU DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE OF THE

COLOR OF YOUR SKIN.

IN FACT, YOU'RE TAUGHT IN MANY WAYS, WHETHER MY PARENTS MEANT

IT INTENTIONALLY OR NOT, AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN THEIR

YOUNGEST OF AGES ARE TAUGHT TO BE AFRAID, AWARE, CAUTIOUS ABOUT

INTERACTIONS WITH POLICE AND IT'S REINFORCED NOT ONLY BY YOUR

OWN EXPERIENCES, BUT IF YOU'RE MY AGE, YOU HAVE PARENTS OR

RELATIVES WHO HAVE BRUTAL EXPERIENCES.

THE BEAUTY FOR ME RIGHT NOW IS WE'VE SEEN PROTESTS LIKE WE'VE

NEVER SEEN IN THIS COUNTRY WHERE, SOMEHOW, NOT JUST BLACK

FOLKS IN THE STREETS, YOU'RE SEEING AMERICANS BEGIN TO

UNDERSTAND WHAT I THINK IS THE HIGHEST IDEAL WHICH IS LOVE

WHICH IS THE IDEA THAT THE SUFFERING OF MY NEIGHBOR IS ANY

SUFFERING, AND I CANNOT BE COMFORTABLE IN A WORLD WHERE

THERE'S THIS MUCH DISCONTENT AND INJUSTICE, AND THAT'S THE SAME

PROTEST RIGHT NOW GAVE ME AS A LEGISLATURE THIS REMARKABLE --

AS A LEGISLATOR -- >> James: WILL DRAMATICALLY

AS A LEGISLATOR -- >> James: WILL DRAMATICALLY

POLICING YOUR LAWS CHANGE?

EXPLAIN THE IDEAS YOU'RE PROPOSING.

>> MOST OF US WANT TO KNOW IF WE LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE A POLICE

OFFICER DOES SOMETHING BAD -- WE'VE SEEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN

POLICE OFFICERS SEEM OFTEN TO HAVE PROTECTIONS EVEN WHEN WE

SEE THEM ON VIDEOTAPES DOING THINGS, THAT THEY'RE JUSTIFIED

IN SHOOTING PEOPLE.

THIS CREATES A LOT MORE ACCOUNTABILITY, IT CHANGES LEGAL

STANDARDS THAT ARE IMPOSSIBLE TO REACH AND MAKES THEM SO IF

SOMEBODY IS RECKLESSLY REGARDING HUMAN LIFE WE CAN NOW HOLD YOU

ACCOUNTABLE, AND IN THE CIVIL COURTS, IF YOU VIOLATE CIVIL

RIGHTS JUST LIKE ANY OTHER AMERICAN WHO VIOLATES CIVIL

RIGHTS, YOU CAN BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

IF YOU WORK FOR THE ACLU OR ARE A LEGISLATOR OR ANYONE, YOU CAN

PEEL BACK THE ONION IN THIS COUNTRY AND FIND MISCONDUCT.

AND BAN CERTAIN PRACTICES LIKE CHOKEHOLD AND NO-KNOCK WARNTSD

AND RACIAL PROFILING.

WE DON'T NEED A RADICALLY REORIENTING OF OUR SOCIETY.

UNLIKE ENGLAND, THE COUNTRY THAT HAILS, THE FLAG BEHIND ME, WE

SAY WE'RE THE LAND OF THE FREE, AND WE'RE 5% OF HUMANITY,

AMERICA, BUT WE HAVE ONE OUT OF EVERY FOUR INCARCERATED PEOPLE

ON THE PLANET IS HERE, ONE OUT OF EVERY THREE INCARCERATED

WOMEN ON THE PLANET ARE HERE, AND OVER 90% ARE NONVIOLENT

OFFENDERS BECAUSE WE'VE MADE AN EXPLICIT DECISION THAT WE WOULD

DEAL WITH YOU WITH POLICE AND PRISONS, BECAUSE IF YOU ARE

MENTALLY ILL IN THIS COUNTRY, YOUR CHANCES OF BEING SWEPT UP

IN JAIL ARE SO HIGH, YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE HEALTH CARE.

IF YOU'RE ADDICTED, WE'LL SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON YOU

BEFORE WE GIVE YOU THE TREATMENT YOU NEED.

THIS IS SUCH A SAVAGE SYSTEM THAT WE'VE SOMEHOW SAID AS A

SOCIETY WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH, AND THESE THINGS ARE DONE IN OUR

NAME.

POLICE OFFICERS WORK FOR US, THE COURT SYSTEM, IT'S THE STATE

VERSUS, BUT WE HAVE NOT HAD THE COURAGE TO SAY WE CAN REIMAGINE

A DIFFERENT SOCIETY THAT'S NOT SO OVERRELIANT ON POLICING AND

PRISONS, BUT WE CAN IMAGINE A NEW SOCIETY WHERE LOVE AND

CARING AND SUPPORT AND HEALTH CARE ARE THE CALL OF OUR SOCIETY

AND, BY THE WAY -- AND I'M SORRY TO TALK SO MUCH -- BUT, GOD, WE

HAVE THE DATA TO SHOW IT'S CHEAPER FOR TAXPAYERS TO DEAL

WITH PEOPLE BY SHOWING COMPASSION AND LOVE AND SUPPORT

THAN IT IS WITH PRISONS AND JAILS.

>> James: HOW WILL YOU PASS THESE BILLS WHEN YOU NEED THE

HELP OF REPUBLICANS?

AND WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM IDIOTS LIKE ME?

HOW DO WE PASS THOSE THINGS THROUGH?

>> LET ME TELL YOU THE TRICK, AND THIS IS THE BURNING

CHALLENGE I'M TELLING YOU YOU RIGHT NOW, AND I JUST POSTED ON

MY INSTAGRAM ACCOUNT, I HOPE PEOPLE READ THE LETTERS FROM THE

BAHAMA JAIL WHERE KING LITERALLY SAYS, IT'S NOT THE KKK AND THE

WHITE CITIZENS COUNCIL HE'S REALLY WORRIED ABOUT.

HE NAMES -- HE CALLS IT WHITE MODERATES WHO SEEM TO BE

COMFORTABLE WITH A NEGATIVE PEACE, WHICH IS THE ABSENCE OF

VIOLENCE, MORE THAN THEY ARE WITH THE PRESENCE OF JUSTICE,

WHICH IS A POSITIVE OF PEACE.

SO THE INJUSTICES WILL CONTINUE, FREDERIC DOUGLAS TALKED ABOUT

THIS, AS LONG AS WE AS A PEOPLE WILL ENDURE THEM.

UNTIL WE START COMING TOGETHER AND RECOGNIZING THEM THAT THE

INJURIES AND THE RETCHNESS THAT'S HAPPENING TO OUR BROTHERS

AND SISTERS IS HAPPENING TO ME.

IT'S CHEAPENING MY EXISTENCE AND MY NATION, IT'S AN AFFRONT TO

ALL I BELIEVE.

SO WHEN YOU ASK ME WHAT YOU CAN DO, WHY DON'T WE HAVE A NATION

THAT SCREAMS FOR CHILDREN AS THEY'RE BEING TORTURED IN

AMERICA, JUVENILE SOLITAIRE CONFINEMENT, PUTTING KIDS,

BRAINS STILL UNDER DEVELOPMENT, IN SOLITARY CONFINEMENT IS

TORTURE.

ASK PSYCHOLOGICAL PROFESSIONALS.

OTHER COUNTRIES CALL IT TORTURE, WE DO IT REGULARLY IN THE UNITED

STATES OF AMERICA.

WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE?

HOW ABOUT THIS ONE?

THERE ARE 3,000 JURISDICTIONS IN AMERICA WHERE CHILDREN HAVE MORE

THAN TWICE THE BLOOD LEAD LEVELS THAN FLINT, MICHIGAN.

THAT IS VIOLENCE AGAINST OUR CHILDREN, PERMANENT BRAIN DAMAGE

BEING DONE.

WE'RE THE NUMBER ONE PREDICTOR WHETHER YOU'RE DRINKING DIRTY

WATER, BREATHING DIRTY AIR OR AROUND A TOXIC SITE IS THE COLOR

OF YOUR SKIN.

IF WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT REALITY, IF WE CAN SIT

COMFORTABLY BY WITH THAT MUCH GRIEVOUS SUFFERING, THEN WHAT

DOES IT SAY ABOUT THE SOUL OF OUR NATION?

AND THIS IS THE TIME THAT YOU CANNOT BE SILENT, IF YOU KNOW

ABOUT THESE THINGS, BECAUSE TO BE SILENT IS TO BE COMPLICIT IN

THE INJUSTICES IN THE NATION THAT SWEARS AN OATH TO LIBERTY

AND JUSTICE FOR ALL, AND, YEAH, WE'RE HURTING, PEOPLE ARE

HURTING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE THESE THINGS ARE

HAPPENING IN DARK CORNERS, THEY'RE HAPPENING ON NATIONAL TV

WHERE WE WATCH THE MURDER, THE TORTURE OF A HUMAN BEING IN

FRONT OF US AND KNOW THAT THE NAMES THAT WE KNOW, TAMIR RICE,

GEORGE FLOYD, I COULD GO THROUGH THEM, THEY'RE THE ONES WE'VE

CAUGHT ON VIDEOTAPE, NOT THE ONES THAT WE KNOW OF.

SO WHEN YOU ASK ME WHAT YOU CAN DO, NEVER STOP ASKING THAT

QUESTION.

WRESTLE WITH IT EVERY DAY, ASK YOURSELF WHAT CAN I BE DOING?

AND DON'T UNDERESTIMATE WHAT ONE SMALL ACT EVERY DAY FOR A CAUSE

BIGGER THAN ME, FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T LOOK LIKE ME, THAT AREN'T

IN MY FAMILY, WHO DON'T LIVE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, THE SECOND WE

PUT DOWN THE QUESTION OF WHAT CAN I DO, THAT'S WHEN INJUSTICE

FESTERS.

BUT IF WE HOLD THAT QUESTION TIGHT, EMBRACE THAT QUESTION,

MAKE IT A PART OF OUR BEING, WE WILL ALWAYS BE A PART OF THE

STRUGGLE THEN AND BE MAKING DIFFERENCES BEYOND THAT WHICH WE

CAN IMAGINE.

>> James: NOW, THE ELECTION I THINK IS GIVE OR TAKE 150 DAYS

AWAY.

>> YES.

>> James: TRUMP SAID HE'S PLANNING -- HE THINKS HE'S GOING

TO START UP IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS HOLDING RALLIES.

HOW CONFIDENT ARE YOU AND HOW DOES JOE BIDEN DEFEAT DONALD

TRUMP IN THIS ELECTION?

>> WELL, THIS PRESIDENT SEEMS TO BE RUSHING TO RALLIES, AND I'M

PRAYING FOR HIM -- YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT HIM TO BE MY

PRESIDENT, BUT I WAS TAUGHT TO PRAY FOR YOUR ADVERSARIES AND

YOUR ENEMIES, I'M PRAYING FOR HIM BECAUSE HE'S PUTTING HIMSELF

AND A LOT OF PEOPLE AT RISK, SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO RALLIES WHERE

THERE'S A LOT OF SHOUTING AND YELLING AND HE'S MODELING NOT

WEARING A MASK, THESE ARE DANGEROUS ENVIRONMENTS, WE HAVE

TO BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THEM AND FOLLOW THE DICTATES OF

PROFESSIONALS WHO UNDERSTAND THIS VIRUS FROM A MEDICAL

PERSPECTIVE, BUT I WANT TO SAY THERE ARE APP LOT OF FOLKS

TELLING US TO DO THINGS.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PRESIDENT WHO SEEMS TO -- SEEMS

TO MARKET EXTREME RECKLESS CONSPIRACY THEORIES AND MORE

THAT HAVE POSED DANGERS TO PEOPLE FROM INJECTING CLOROX,

STICKING FLASHLIGHTS IN PLACES, IT'S DANGEROUS, AND I ALWAYS

THINK THAT LEADERSHIP, YOU KNOW, IS BEST BY EXAMPLE, AND I'VE

NEVER SEEN SOMEONE SO PERFECTLY ILL EQUIPPED TO PROVIDE THE KIND

OF LEADERSHIP WE NEED.

SO YOU ASKED ME ABOUT JOE BIDEN.

MY FAVORITE THING ABOUT JOE BIDEN IN THIS STRETCH IS

PROBABLY NOT ANYBODY ELSE'S, BUT I'M, LIKE, A BIG FAN OF BERNAY

BROWN IN THE SENSE SHE TALKS ABOUT THE POWER OF VULNERABILITY

THAT YOU CAN'T ACTUALLY HAVE COURAGE WITHOUT VULNERABLE, AND

THE FACT THAT THIS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP NEVER APOLOGIZED,

NEVER SHOWED WEAKNESS IN THE KIND OF ALPHA MALE WAY.

ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS ABOUT JOE BIDEN IS HE SAYS, YEAH, I

GOT THAT WRONG, OR JOE BIDEN, I'VE LOVED MY CONVERSATION --

I'M IN A POSITION OF PRIVILEGE WHERE I'VE HAD PERSONAL

CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM, AND HIS UNDERSTANDING THAT HE'S GOING TO

HAVE TO BE PRESIDENT AND SURROUND HIMSELF WITH AN AMAZING

TEAM, HE'S EXCITED, HE SAYS HE WANTS TO SHOW AMERICA WE HAVE

THIS INCREDIBLE BENCH OF PEOPLE AND HE'S EXCITED TO WRAP HIMSELF

WITH PEOPLE -- AND HE'S NOT INTIMIDATED BY PEOPLE WHO ARE

INCREDIBLY SMART.

HIS HUMILITY TO ME AND HIS IMPERFECTIONS TO ME MADE ME

THINK THIS WOULD BE A BRIDGE PRESIDENT TO A GENERATION OF

LEADERSHIP WHERE THIS TOXIC ALPHA MALE THIS PRESIDENT TRIES

TO SHOW IS ACTUALLY PROFOUND WEAKNESS IS GOING TO BE REPLACED

BY A NEW GENERATION OF LEADERS WHO ARE MORE VULNERABLE, MORE

EMPATHETIC, MORE STRONG OF CHARACTER THAN THIS GUY.

>> James: BEFORE WE GO TO BREAK, CAN I ASK YOU THE ONE

MESSAGE OF HOPE?

BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S FEELING THE SADNESS THAT THE SPIKES AND

ANXIETY, THE DESPAIR AND THE LACK OF HOPE, AND I THINK YOU

ARE SOMEBODY THAT PEOPLE LOOK TO IN THESE MOMENTS.

SO THIS IS ME SAYING TO YOU IS THERE ONE MESSAGE OF HOPE THAT

YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW?

>> IF AMERICA HASN'T BROKEN YOUR HEART, YOU DON'T LOVE HER

ENOUGH.

IF YOU HAVEN'T FELT SUCH HURT AND FELT THE SEDUCTION OF

DESPAIR CHOKING YOU, THEN I DON'T KNOW, YOU'RE NOT LOOKING

AT THIS COUNTRY ENOUGH.

AND, SO, I REMEMBER, AFTER A KID WAS SHOT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, AND

I LITERALLY TRIED TO RENDER AID AND SEEN SOMEBODY BLEED TO DEATH

FROM GUNSHOT WOUNDS, AND THAT NIGHT, I WAS DONE.

IT WAS 2004, AND I WAS DONE.

I HAD SUCH ANGER, AND I BROKE.

I JUST SAID ANOTHER BLACK BOY IN A BOX IN AMERICA, AND I REMEMBER

JUST -- I MEAN, IT WAS ONE OF THESE EMOTIONAL MOMENTS WHERE I

DON'T KNOW IF SOME PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE EXPERIENCED IT IF YOU TURN

THE WATER ANDETH SO HOT, YOU WANT THE PAIN ON THE OUTSIDE TO

NUMB THE PAIN ON THE INSIDE.

THE NEXT MORNING, I CAME OUT TO THE COURTYARD -- I WAS LIVING IN

HIGHRISE PROJECTS, AND I'D SEEN VIRGINIA JONES WHOSE SON WAS

MURDERED IN THE '80s IN THOSE BUILDINGS, AND SHE NEVER LEFT.

SHE WORKED IN A JOB WHERE SHE COULD HAVE MOVED.

SHE STAYED THERE, AND I'M NOW SCREAMING FEELING LIKE I'M UNDER

100 FEET OF WATER SUFFOCATING AND SHE TURNS AROUND AND DID THE

ONE THING I NEED BID WE'VE ALREADY MENTIONED, THIS ELDERLY

AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMAN OPENS HER ORMS FOR A HUG.

I RUN ACROSS THE COURT LIKE A LITTLE KID, SHE HOLDS ME IN HER

ARMS.

I BREAK AND START SOBBING LIKE A LITTLE KID, AND SHE SAYS TWO

WORDS OVER AND OVER TO ME THAT I'VE LEANED ON IN MY MOST

DIFFICULT TIMES, AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION, PIE

IN THE SKY WHEN YOU DIE, IT HAD EVERYTHING TO DO HERE WITH HOW

WE GOT HERE AS A COUNTRY.

SHE SAID OVER AND OVER, STAY FAITHFUL, STAY FAITHFUL, STAY

FAITHFUL.

SHE TAUGHT ME HOPE IS THE ACTIVE CONVICTION THAT DESPAIR WILL

NEVER HAVE THE LAST WORD.

DON'T SURRENDER YOUR FAITH, NO MATTER WHAT, BECAUSE PEOPLE IN

MORE DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES -- SLAVERY, MASS TERRORISM,

THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS BEING LYNCHED IN THE POST-SLAVE

PERIOD, VICIOUS MURDERS, BODIES DUMPED IN SWAMPS, THE

WRETCHEDNESS THAT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT IN THIS COUNTRY, YET

SOMEHOW PEOPLE AMIDST THE DESPAIR CHOSE HOPE, NOT PIE IN

THE SKY, BUT THEY CHOSE TO BE AGENTS OF HOPE THAT YOU CANNOT

DEFINE ME BY ANYTHING YOU THROW AT ME BECAUSE I STILL HAVE THE

POWER TO CHOOSE HOW I WILL RESPOND AND I WILL RESPOND WITH

FAITH AND HOPE THAT THIS COUNTRY WILL ONE DAY LIVE UP TO ITS

PROMISE AND BE WHO WE SAY WE ARE, THIS IDEA OF LIBERTY AND

JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> James: I KNEW YOU WERE GOOD FOR IT.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH SENATOR CORY BOOKER.

♪ ♪

♪ ♪

♪ NOTE DON'T FORGET YOUR TIE ♪

>> James: WE ARE BACK WITH SENATOR CORY BOOKER.

SENATOR, WE HAVE BEEN DOING A "THE LATE LATE SHOW" AND TELL.

WE HAVE BEEN ASKING PEOPLE TO SHOW US THINGS WE MAY NEVER GET

TO SEE.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SHARE?

>> I KNEW THIS QUESTION IS COMING.

I WANT TO MOVE THIS AND SHOW YOU A MAP.

THAT WAS THE FIRST MAP IN THE FIRST CAMPAIGN I EVER RAN FOR A

CITY COUNCIL SEAT WAS IN MY 20s, RUN TOCK THE YOUNGEST

PERSON EVER ELECTED IN MY CITY, WE EVENTUALLY WON.

THAT'S THE ACTUAL MAP I USED AND I KEEP IT EVERYWHERE D BECAUSE I

NEVER WANT TO FORGET THE PEOPLE WHO PUT THEIR FAITH IN ME FIRST.

I STILL LIVED THERE, TEN YEARS AGO, THE MEDIAN INCOME WAS ABOUT

$14,000 PER HOUSEHOLD.

WE DON'T MISTAKE WEALTH FORT WORTH IN THE CENTRAL WARD,

AND I GOT TO FIGHT FOR THE NOBILITY, THE DIGNITY, THEY PUT

THEIR FAITH IN ME AND I NEVER WANT TO FORGET WHY I GOT IN

POLITICS, SO I KEEP THAT AROUND.

I'M PROUD TO STILL LIVE THERE AND I'M PROUD THE PEOPLE BELIEVE

IN ME ENOUGH TO GIVE ME A SHOT TO REPRESENT THEM.

>> James: THAT WAS THE MOST DEFT CAMERAWORK WE'VE SEEN SINCE

WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS SHOW.

I'VE NEVER SEEN SUCH -- >> I'M UP FOR REELECTION.

IF I DON'T WIN, I HOPE YOU WILL GIVE ME A JOB?

YOU HAVE YOURSELF IN THE FRAME AND EVERYTHING.

>> THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN ON MY DESK.

IT'S MY FAVORITE HERO FROM AMERICAN HISTORY.

HARRIET TUBMAN.

SHE GOT HERSELF OUT OF SLAVERY AND 19 TIMES WENT BACK TO TRY TO

BE FREE TILL EVERYONE IS.

>> James: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING THOSE.

REGGIE, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR OUR GUEST THIS EVENING?

>> Reggie: I DO.

TONIGHT'S QUESTION GOES TO -- ( DRUM ROLL )

-- MR. BOOKER.

>> James: OKAY.

>> Reggie: IF YOU HAD A CHOICE,

WOULD YOU WANT TO COMMUNICATE CLEARLY WITH EAGLES OR CATS?

>> SO THE RIDICULOUS THING ABOUT THAT IS RIGHT NOW I SHOULD BE,

LIKE, AMERICAN POLITICIAN, THE MIGHTY EAGLE, BUT I'M NOT

CHOOSING THE EAGLE.

FIRST OF ALL, I THINK IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS, NEVER MEET YOUR

HEROES.

YOU NEVER KNOW.

WHAT IF EAGLES TURN OUT TO BE SMUG BASTARDS WHO ARE JUST MEAN

AND I'M DISAPPOINTED.

CATS I ALREADY HAVE CERTAIN EXPECTATIONS BECAUSE THEY OFTEN

ACT LIKE SMUG CREATURES.

WHEN YOU SAY CATS, I WILL INTERPRET IT IN THE BROADEST

SENSE OF THE WORD THAT I CAN TALK TO THE CATS I MEET, BUT I

CAN ALSO TALK TO A PANTHER OR A PUMA.

>> James: REG, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> Reggie: IT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

>> James: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

WE COULD TALK TO YOU ALL DAY.

I ENJOYED SPENDING THE TIME WITH YOU.

THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE TIME FOR THE SHOW.

SENATOR CORY BOOKER, EVERYBODY.

WHEN WE COME BACK, JOSH GROBAN'S GOING TO BE HERE.

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>> James: WELCOME BACK.

OUR NEXT GUEST IS A GRAMMY, EMMY, AND TONY NOMINATED

SINGER AND ACTOR HE'S SOLD OVER 30 MILLION ALBUMS, THE ALWAYS

DELIGHTFUL, JOSH GROBAN!

HELLO, JOSH, HOW ARE YOU?

>> HELLO, JAMES.

I'M ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME ON.

WHAT A -- WHAT A NICE LIGHT TO MY DAY TO SEE YOUR BEAUTIFUL

GARAGE.

>> James: WELL, YOU JUST HEARD THE BAND THERE MADE THEIR SONG

CALLED GROBAN'S IN THE HOUSE.

>> I CAN'T BELIEVE IT.

>> James: YOU LITERALLY JUST KICKED OFF YOUR RADIO CITY

RESIDENCY BEFORE THE SHELTER-IN-PLACE CAME ON.

DID YOU KNOW YOUR FIRST RADIO CITY RESIDENCY WOULD BE YOUR

LAST FOR SOME TIME?

BECAUSE YOU MOVED THE DAYS TO 2021 NOW, RIGHT?

>> WE HAVE.

WE MOVED THE NEXT FOUR TO, OBVIOUSLY, A SAFE TIME.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE PUT SO MUCH WORK, SO MUCH EFFORT INTO THAT

FIRST ONE, IT WAS AN EXTRAORDINARY NIGHT.

IT WAS ON VALENTINE'S DAY, DR. RUTH WAS THERE, IT WAS A

CRAZY, FUN NIGHT.

WE WERE EXPECTING TO DO ONE EVERY MONTH, BUT, ALWAYS, YOU

KNOW, THINGS CHANGE.

WE MADE AN AMAZING TEMPLATE, WE HAD AN INCREDIBLE TIME.

LIVE THAT VENUE, I LOVE NEW YORK, I MISS NEW YORK SO

MUCH, AND WE'RE HOPING WE WILL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE IT NEXT

YEAR.

BUT, NO, FOR ALL OF US THAT PERFORM AND JUST LOVE THE

FEELING OF DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT EVERY NIGHT AND HAVE A

LIVE AUDIENCE.

>> James: BUT YOU'RE GOING TO PUT ON A LIVE ONLINE CONCERT.

>> YES.

>> James: SO WHAT CAN FANS EXPECT FROM THIS SHOW?

>> SO, AS WE'RE TRYING TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHAT THE NEW

NORMAL OF LIFE PERFORMANCE -- LIVE PERFORMANCE LOOKS LIKE,

IT'S TIME TO KIND OF GET CREATIVE.

SO I KNOW HOW THERAPEUTIC MUSIC HAS BEEN FOR ME BOTH AS A FAN

LISTENING AND WRITING AND PERFORMING, BUT THE CONNECTIVITY

WITH THE FANS IS SOMETHING YOU WANT TO KEEP THAT GOING, AND,

SO, WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING I'VE NEVER DONE BEFORE, WHICH IS

WE'RE GOING TO DO A LIVE CONCERT ON JUNE 27, AND IT'S -- YOU

KNOW, GIVES ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO EMPLOY MY BAND AND MY CREW AND

DO A SHOW THAT IS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, FUN, CASUAL, Q&A,

PIANO AND A GUITAR SINGING JUST A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS AND,

YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY IT WILL BE A WAY THAT PEOPLE CAN KIND OF COME

TOGETHER AND ENJOY WHAT WE MISSED ABOUT THAT LIVE

EXPERIENCE IS THAT I THINK THAT'S AN INCREDIBLE THING AND

IT SORT OF TIES INTO YOUR FOUNDATION WHICH IS TO FIND YOUR

LIGHT.

FOR ANYONE WHO'S INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT ABOUT IT, TELL US

WHAT THAT FOUNDATION IS AND WHAT MADE YOU WANT THE START SUCH A

THING.

>> WITH MERCH AND EVERYTHING ELSE, WE'RE GOING TO BE RAISING

A LOT OF MONEY FOR MY ARTS EDUCATION FOUNDATION.

I WAS A PRODUCT OF AN INCREDIBLE ARTS EDUCATION, AND I AM WHERE I

AM TODAY BECAUSE OF THAT, NOT JUST BECAUSE I WANTED TO DO IT

PROFESSIONALLY, BUT BECAUSE AS SOMEBODY WHO WAS A SHY, INSECURE

KID WHO DIDN'T KNOW WHERE I WANTED TO GO IN LIFE, HAVING THE

ARTS WAS A TOOL TO EDUCATE MYSELF AND HAVE IT IN SCHOOL

REALLY SAVED MY LIFE IN SO MANY WAYS.

I WAS THE FORTUNATE ONE.

THERE ARE SO MANY AREAS IN THE CITY AND THE COUNTRY WHERE THOSE

PROGRAMS ARE GETTING CUT AT SUCH A DRASTIC RATE.

SO THE GOAL OF FIND YOUR LIGHT, ESPECIALLY NOW WHEN WE NEED TO

FIND COMMON GROUND AND HUMANITY AND YOUNG PEOPLE NEED TO FIND

THEIR SENSE OFSELF AND COMMUNITY, THE ARTS ARE A WAY TO

FIND A UNIVERSALS LANGUAGE WHETHER THEY GO INTO IT

PROFESSIONALLY OR NOT.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE ARTS STAY ALIVE AND STAYS IN SCHOOLS

AND YOUNG PEOPLE'S LIVES.

>> James: THAT'S FANTASTIC.

NOW, THE SONG YOU'RE GOING TO PERFORM ON THE SHOW TONIGHT I

THINK HAS MY FAVORITE SONG TITLE I'VE EVER HAD.

I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT.

>> IT'S YOUR FACE, JAMES.

>> James: THE SONG IS CALLED "YOUR FACE."

>> YES.

IT FEELS LIKE THE SORT OF NAME OUR BAND WOULD COME UP

WITH, LIKE YOU CAN GO, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, HERE'S "YOUR

FACE."

>> OR SOMEBODY MIGHT SAY, GOSH, I LOVE "YOUR FACE," JUST OUT OF

NOWHERE.

>> James: YEAH.

AND THAT'S THE VALIDATION -- YOU NEVER GET TIRED OF THAT KIND

OF VALIDATION.

>> James: GUYS, I'M HERE TONIGHT.

I HAVE ONE LAST SONG, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU YOUR FACE FAS BEFORE

WE HEAD OUT.

IT'S JUST MADE, I'M EXCITED TO SAY HERE, WITH "YOUR FACE."

IT'S JOSH GROBAN.

>> YEAH.

THIS WAS A SONG THAT CAME ABOUT DURING THE FIRST WEEK OF

QUARANTINE.

I SANG IT, RECORDED IT, WROTE IT IN MY BROOM.

IN MY BEDROOM.

TOMMY PROFIT RECORDED IT.

I NEVER MET HIM.

>> James: YOU NEVER MET HIM BUT HE RECORDED "YOUR FACE."

>> YES.

IT'S A SONG THAT REPRESENTS WHEN ALL THINGS ARE TURNED UPSIDE

DOWN, THE SIMPLICITY OF LOOKING AT THE FACES OF PEOPLE AND

FINDING THAT COMMON HUMANITY AND FINDING THE EMOTION IN PEOPLE

WHEN YOU DON KNOW SOMETIMES WHERE ELSE TO TURN.

SO IT WAS A SONG I NEEDED TO GET OUT OF MY SYSTEM IN THAT FIRST

WEEK AND STILL HAVEN'T REALLY RELEASED IT YET.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH IT BUT WE'RE HAPPY

TO SING IT FOR YOU TONIGHT.

>> James: WE COULDN'T BE MORE EXCITED.

IF YOU WANT TO HEAR "YOUR FACE," STICK AROUND, BECAUSE JOSH

GROBAN -- >> OR WATCH "YOUR FACE."

>> James: JOSH GROBAN IS GOING TO PLAY "YOUR FACE" AFTER THE

BREAK.

COME ON BACK, EVERYBODY.

>> PLAY "YOUR FACE."

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>> James: WELCOME BACK.

HERE PERFORMING HIS NEW SONG "YOUR FACE," PLEASE WELCOME THE

BRILLIANT JOSH GROBAN.

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>> ♪ I CAN SEE FIRE BURNING WAY OUT THERE

♪ I CAN FEEL THE COLD WIND ACROSS THE BITTER AIR

♪ AND IT MAKES ME WONDER HOW WE'LL RETURN

♪ WHERE WILL WE GO, WHAT WILL WE DO WITH ALL WE'VE LEARNED?

♪ WELL, I BELIEVE IN ALL OF US I WON'T LET THIS GO TO WASTE

♪ I WANT SOMEONE I CAN TOUCH I WANT SOMETHING I CAN TASTE

♪ HOLDING ON TO WHAT WE MUST THE LIGHT AHEAD SO HARD TO CHASE

♪ BUT THERE IS HOPE IN ALL OF US AND I CAN SEE IT ON YOUR FACE

♪ ON YOUR FACE I CAN SEE, I CAN SEE

♪ AND WE'RE SO CONNECTED BUT NEVER MORE ALONE

♪ WE TELL THE WORLD THAT WE'RE SPECIAL FROM THE FILTER

♪ OF A PHONE I GOTTA BE OPEN CAUSE LIFE'S

♪ MEANT TO BE SHARED BUT HOW CAN I BE MY TRUEST ME

♪ WHEN I'M SO SCARED?

OH...

♪ I BELIEVE IN ALL OF US I WON'T LET THIS GO TO WASTE

♪ I WANT SOMEONE I CAN TOUCH I WANT SOMETHING I CAN TASTE

♪ HOLDING ON TO WHAT WE MUST REACH FOR FEELINGS LONG ERASED

♪ BUT THERE IS LOVE IN ALL OF US AND I CAN SEE IT ON YOUR FACE

♪ ON YOUR FACE I CAN SEE, I CAN SEE

♪ AND WHEN WE SURRENDER WHAT WE HAD BEFORE

♪ JUST BE STRONG, IT WON'T BE LONG

♪ JUST KEEP MOVING FORWARD THROUGH THAT OPEN DOOR

♪ DOOR...

♪ I BELIEVE IN ALL OF US I WON'T LET THIS GO TO WASTE

♪ I WANT SOMEONE I CAN TOUCH I WANT SOMETHING I CAN TASTE

♪ HOLDING ON TO WHAT WE MUST THE LIGHT AHEAD SO HARD TO CHASE

♪ BUT THERE IS HOPE IN ALL OF US AND I CAN SEE IT ON YOUR FACE

♪ YOUR FACE...

♪ AND I'VE NEVER BEEN ONE TO PRAY

♪ LOSING TRUST AND LOSING FAITH BUT THERE IS GOD IN ALL OF US

♪ AND I CAN SEE HER ON YOUR FACE I CAN SEE, I CAN SEE

♪ ON YOUR FACE I CAN SEE, I CAN SEE

♪ OOH...

ICAN SEE, I CAN SEE ♪ I CAN SEE

I CAN SEE... ♪

>> James: JOSH, THAT WAS SO BEAUTIFUL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

JOSH GROBAN, EVERYBODY.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

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>> James: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WATCHING.

TOMORROW NIGHT, GAYLE KING AND ADAM LAMBERT.

WE'LL SEE YOU THEN.

GOODNIGHT.

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