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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,168 --> 00:00:01,962 (narrator) In the criminal justice system, 2 00:00:02,033 --> 00:00:03,463 sexually-based offenses 3 00:00:03,532 --> 00:00:05,292 are considered especially heinous. 4 00:00:05,730 --> 00:00:07,661 In New York City, the dedicated detectives 5 00:00:07,729 --> 00:00:09,920 who investigate these vicious felonies 6 00:00:09,994 --> 00:00:11,425 are members of an elite squad 7 00:00:11,493 --> 00:00:13,389 known as the Special Victims Unit. 8 00:00:13,458 --> 00:00:14,855 These are their stories. 9 00:00:16,589 --> 00:00:18,678 (crossing guard) Now, if this were a real busy street, 10 00:00:18,754 --> 00:00:20,980 there'd be lots of cars and people, okay? 11 00:00:21,052 --> 00:00:23,777 Now I want everybody to take your buddy's hand. All right? 12 00:00:23,850 --> 00:00:25,281 (boy) I don't want to hold her hand. 13 00:00:25,350 --> 00:00:28,143 Now, what do we do when we get to the crosswalk? 14 00:00:28,214 --> 00:00:29,304 Anybody remember? 15 00:00:29,380 --> 00:00:30,436 (all) No. 16 00:00:30,513 --> 00:00:33,601 We stop. We look. And we listen. 17 00:00:33,676 --> 00:00:36,004 And then we walk to the other side. 18 00:00:36,075 --> 00:00:38,834 Now stay inside the lines of the crosswalk, okay? 19 00:00:38,906 --> 00:00:40,632 And walk very, very fast. 20 00:00:40,705 --> 00:00:42,261 [Children chattering] 21 00:00:43,370 --> 00:00:45,890 Okay. No running and no pushing, please. 22 00:00:45,968 --> 00:00:47,694 [Whispers] Hope a cab doesn't splatter you 23 00:00:47,767 --> 00:00:49,288 all over midtown, you little brats. 24 00:00:49,365 --> 00:00:51,296 (boy) He's hurt. He's hurt. 25 00:00:52,064 --> 00:00:55,255 Take them inside, Melody. Now. Go. 26 00:00:55,328 --> 00:00:57,156 Come on, kids. Let's go. 27 00:00:57,327 --> 00:00:59,291 [Children chattering] 28 00:01:07,053 --> 00:01:09,018 White male, 20s, naked, 29 00:01:09,084 --> 00:01:11,378 wrapped in a set of king-sized sheets and a blanket, 30 00:01:11,449 --> 00:01:13,607 condoms in there with him, fluids on the body, 31 00:01:13,682 --> 00:01:15,306 which is why we called you guys in. 32 00:01:15,380 --> 00:01:17,310 Any idea how long the body's been here? 33 00:01:17,378 --> 00:01:20,365 Trash collection worked this street at 11:00 last night. No body then. 34 00:01:20,443 --> 00:01:21,964 Neck's broken. 35 00:01:22,641 --> 00:01:24,629 Bruising goes all the way around, 36 00:01:24,773 --> 00:01:26,761 back of his scalp is pretty torn up 37 00:01:26,839 --> 00:01:28,804 and there's white powder in it. 38 00:01:28,870 --> 00:01:31,300 See this blue stuff on the sheets? 39 00:01:32,001 --> 00:01:34,522 It's not wax. It's more like melted plastic. 40 00:01:34,632 --> 00:01:36,257 (Bryson) Detectives, a trooper pulled 41 00:01:36,332 --> 00:01:37,728 the pillow case out of the bushes. 42 00:01:37,797 --> 00:01:39,455 Matches the sheets. 43 00:01:40,962 --> 00:01:42,426 His clothes. 44 00:01:43,127 --> 00:01:44,456 Check for a wallet. 45 00:01:44,525 --> 00:01:45,956 (Benson) There's no wallet in here. 46 00:01:46,025 --> 00:01:47,614 Found something. 47 00:01:49,156 --> 00:01:51,450 Seventh and Bleecker, Thursday, 7:00 p.m. 48 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:52,712 Last night in the Village. 49 00:01:52,786 --> 00:01:54,648 Maybe that's where he met his killer. 50 00:01:54,719 --> 00:01:57,683 Must've shown him a real good time before she did the deed. 51 00:01:57,750 --> 00:02:00,714 Marvin, right now is a good opportunity for you to learn. 52 00:02:00,781 --> 00:02:03,472 An erection is often a side effect of asphyxiation. 53 00:02:03,546 --> 00:02:07,101 Oh, yeah? 'Cause I was gonna say the guy was scared stiff. 54 00:02:56,508 --> 00:02:59,301 We've got six restaurants, two bars, thirteen businesses, 55 00:02:59,372 --> 00:03:01,858 and over 400 residences near Bleecker and Seventh. 56 00:03:01,936 --> 00:03:04,060 That is a hell of lot of doors to knock on. 57 00:03:04,136 --> 00:03:07,032 Not to mention it's 100 blocks away from where the victim ended up. 58 00:03:07,099 --> 00:03:09,928 If his date killed him in the Village, it's a long way to lug a body. 59 00:03:09,997 --> 00:03:11,894 Meaning one of 'em lives near the dump site. 60 00:03:11,963 --> 00:03:13,450 Or she had help moving the body. 61 00:03:13,528 --> 00:03:14,788 What did Missing Persons say? 62 00:03:14,861 --> 00:03:17,087 Nobody's missed him yet. And we got no hit on the prints. 63 00:03:17,159 --> 00:03:18,419 (Siper) Detectives. 64 00:03:18,492 --> 00:03:20,320 This turned out to be a challenging one. 65 00:03:20,391 --> 00:03:21,650 What did the lab find? 66 00:03:21,722 --> 00:03:24,050 Substance in the hair turned out to be gypsum particles 67 00:03:24,121 --> 00:03:27,313 and flakes of flat latex paint in eggshell white. 68 00:03:27,386 --> 00:03:29,247 Somebody bashed his head against a wall. 69 00:03:29,317 --> 00:03:30,577 It's a common brand of paint, 70 00:03:30,650 --> 00:03:32,637 won't help much with the location. 71 00:03:32,714 --> 00:03:35,304 The bed sheets were a little more interesting. 72 00:03:35,380 --> 00:03:36,708 We put that blue substance 73 00:03:36,778 --> 00:03:39,504 under an infrared spectrometer. It's nylon. 74 00:03:39,577 --> 00:03:41,564 Specifically used for sports apparel. 75 00:03:41,642 --> 00:03:43,607 Somehow it melted all over the sheets. 76 00:03:43,673 --> 00:03:46,536 Like maybe from a faulty dryer? Runs too hot, 77 00:03:46,604 --> 00:03:49,398 put a pair of running shorts in with the sheets, ruin the whole load. 78 00:03:49,470 --> 00:03:52,433 Killed in an apartment with white walls and a crappy laundry facility. 79 00:03:52,500 --> 00:03:53,658 I think I live there. 80 00:03:53,733 --> 00:03:55,890 But I'm guessing you didn't kill the guy. 81 00:03:55,964 --> 00:03:58,554 We blood-typed the semen found on the sheets. 82 00:04:00,995 --> 00:04:02,085 Two types? 83 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,522 Your victim spent his last night with another man. 84 00:04:04,592 --> 00:04:06,783 There's two bars in the Village on your list. 85 00:04:06,857 --> 00:04:08,549 You and Olivia see if any of them 86 00:04:08,623 --> 00:04:10,587 cater exclusively to gentlemen. 87 00:04:14,218 --> 00:04:16,080 (Benson) Have you ever seen this guy? 88 00:04:16,983 --> 00:04:18,880 Sorry, I don't recognize him. 89 00:04:18,948 --> 00:04:20,310 How late did you work? 90 00:04:20,380 --> 00:04:21,606 Till 4:00 in the morning. 91 00:04:21,679 --> 00:04:24,200 Kind of a blur after 10:00, though. 92 00:04:24,811 --> 00:04:26,332 Benefits of working at a gay bar. 93 00:04:26,409 --> 00:04:27,873 Never have to buy my own drinks. 94 00:04:27,941 --> 00:04:29,997 (Stabler) What kind of clientele you get in here? 95 00:04:30,074 --> 00:04:31,504 Hustlers trolling for work? 96 00:04:31,572 --> 00:04:33,469 (bartender) No, mostly just neighborhood guys. 97 00:04:33,538 --> 00:04:35,593 What about lovers' spats getting out of hand? 98 00:04:35,669 --> 00:04:39,121 Bouncer handles that. Hey, Tony, police. 99 00:04:41,864 --> 00:04:43,954 He come in here last night? 100 00:04:46,062 --> 00:04:48,890 Never seen him here, but I know that face. 101 00:04:49,626 --> 00:04:51,954 I think he's a model or something. 102 00:04:52,024 --> 00:04:53,319 Like in a magazine? 103 00:04:53,390 --> 00:04:54,820 No, posters. 104 00:04:54,889 --> 00:04:56,115 You know, the kind they plaster 105 00:04:56,188 --> 00:04:58,311 all over those construction site fences. 106 00:04:58,453 --> 00:04:59,577 [Horn honking] 107 00:04:59,652 --> 00:05:00,674 Law-breakers. 108 00:05:00,751 --> 00:05:03,374 He said the poster was advertising some dating service. 109 00:05:03,449 --> 00:05:05,346 It wasn't Captain Zippy's Rave, 110 00:05:05,415 --> 00:05:08,140 or fantastic, potent, herbal Viagra? 111 00:05:10,910 --> 00:05:12,898 This might be something. 112 00:05:13,942 --> 00:05:16,066 "We chose the path to love." 113 00:05:17,206 --> 00:05:18,568 That's him. 114 00:05:19,104 --> 00:05:20,694 Looking pretty heterosexual. 115 00:05:20,836 --> 00:05:22,301 "ReGenesis." 116 00:05:23,402 --> 00:05:25,457 Doesn't sound like a dating service. 117 00:05:25,533 --> 00:05:26,862 It's a Christian ministry 118 00:05:26,933 --> 00:05:29,056 advocating freedom from homosexuality 119 00:05:29,131 --> 00:05:30,686 through prayer and counseling. 120 00:05:30,763 --> 00:05:34,023 Started in the '80s as the so-called "ex-gay" movement. 121 00:05:34,193 --> 00:05:36,215 (Benson) Here we go: "ReGenesis, 122 00:05:36,293 --> 00:05:38,882 "a second chance at a new beginning. 123 00:05:38,957 --> 00:05:40,888 "Started by Kelly and Derek Singer, 124 00:05:40,956 --> 00:05:42,614 both ex-gays themselves." 125 00:05:43,087 --> 00:05:45,109 So former gays turned gay-bashers? 126 00:05:45,185 --> 00:05:46,276 Not quite. 127 00:05:46,351 --> 00:05:49,009 ReGenesis doesn't condemn homosexuality outright, 128 00:05:49,083 --> 00:05:50,707 but it does believe that it's a sin. 129 00:05:50,782 --> 00:05:52,542 And like all sins, one has to resist it 130 00:05:52,614 --> 00:05:54,306 in order to enter the kingdom of God. 131 00:05:54,380 --> 00:05:56,640 Meaning, "If I pray hard enough, I'll be straight." 132 00:05:56,711 --> 00:05:57,835 Or celibate. 133 00:05:57,911 --> 00:05:59,966 Most ex-gays consider themselves successful 134 00:06:00,042 --> 00:06:02,699 if they resist same-sex behavior. 135 00:06:02,773 --> 00:06:04,431 The movement's still controversial. 136 00:06:04,505 --> 00:06:06,027 Yeah. But if somebody really believes 137 00:06:06,104 --> 00:06:07,763 that being gay's a sin, 138 00:06:07,836 --> 00:06:09,563 what's wrong with trying to change? 139 00:06:09,635 --> 00:06:11,532 (Huang) The assumption that one can change. 140 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,497 ReGenesis claims that members of its ministry 141 00:06:13,566 --> 00:06:15,258 have actually become heterosexual, 142 00:06:15,331 --> 00:06:17,057 but offer little proof. 143 00:06:17,162 --> 00:06:19,423 Most psychiatrists believe it doesn't work. 144 00:06:19,494 --> 00:06:20,789 So the poster-boy 145 00:06:20,860 --> 00:06:23,416 for the ex-gay movement is still sleeping with guys. 146 00:06:23,492 --> 00:06:25,955 I mean, that's gonna piss a few people off. 147 00:06:26,023 --> 00:06:27,681 Find out how much. 148 00:06:27,755 --> 00:06:29,912 And let's put a name to this face. 149 00:06:33,185 --> 00:06:35,411 (Kelly) James Reed. I can't believe it. 150 00:06:35,650 --> 00:06:37,807 James Reed. When was the last time you saw him? 151 00:06:37,882 --> 00:06:39,903 Over six months ago. 152 00:06:39,980 --> 00:06:43,206 I tried contacting him by phone, l... I sent letters. 153 00:06:43,544 --> 00:06:45,441 And he never answered. 154 00:06:45,942 --> 00:06:48,406 Did you guys have a falling out or something? 155 00:06:48,474 --> 00:06:50,029 He thought we were judging him. 156 00:06:50,106 --> 00:06:51,627 But we loved James. 157 00:06:51,705 --> 00:06:53,068 As long as he was straight? 158 00:06:53,137 --> 00:06:54,998 No. That would make us hypocrites. 159 00:06:55,069 --> 00:06:57,363 But you're straight now, right? 160 00:06:57,734 --> 00:07:00,664 So you're following God's law, but he wasn't. 161 00:07:01,031 --> 00:07:04,189 You think that we're just these bunch of religious fanatics 162 00:07:04,262 --> 00:07:06,624 who think God turned us straight? 163 00:07:06,694 --> 00:07:08,750 It's a struggle, Detective. 164 00:07:08,826 --> 00:07:11,756 And Kelly and I fight it together, every day. 165 00:07:11,823 --> 00:07:14,219 So how was it that James wound up on the poster? 166 00:07:14,288 --> 00:07:15,685 (Kelly) It was his idea. 167 00:07:15,754 --> 00:07:17,684 He felt that people should know 168 00:07:17,752 --> 00:07:19,546 you can be accountable to God 169 00:07:19,618 --> 00:07:21,640 and have joy in your life. 170 00:07:21,749 --> 00:07:24,145 Homosexuality doesn't have to control you. 171 00:07:24,281 --> 00:07:27,177 (Benson) But he changed his tune six months ago. 172 00:07:27,246 --> 00:07:28,835 He had doubts. 173 00:07:29,544 --> 00:07:32,167 I told him we all have crises of faith. 174 00:07:32,442 --> 00:07:34,668 In other words, he had a boyfriend. 175 00:07:34,807 --> 00:07:37,067 Now, that doesn't look good for ReGenesis. 176 00:07:37,139 --> 00:07:39,160 Are you suggesting that we killed James? 177 00:07:39,237 --> 00:07:40,963 (Stabler) Someone may have felt betrayed. 178 00:07:41,036 --> 00:07:42,467 You have this ad campaign, 179 00:07:42,535 --> 00:07:43,965 must have cost you a lot of money. 180 00:07:44,034 --> 00:07:46,430 There's James Reed, your poster-boy for success, 181 00:07:46,499 --> 00:07:48,827 till he started sleeping with a bunch of guys again. 182 00:07:48,897 --> 00:07:50,657 Makes your organization look like a sham. 183 00:07:50,728 --> 00:07:53,056 I wouldn't have cared if James had a hundred boyfriends 184 00:07:53,127 --> 00:07:54,387 if it made him happy. 185 00:07:54,460 --> 00:07:56,084 I knew it didn't. 186 00:07:57,824 --> 00:08:00,845 Look, we were just hoping James would come back. 187 00:08:00,922 --> 00:08:02,750 We would've welcomed him. 188 00:08:02,953 --> 00:08:05,214 Uh, you wrote him, uh, those letters. 189 00:08:05,285 --> 00:08:06,477 Yeah. 190 00:08:06,551 --> 00:08:08,516 We'll need that address. 191 00:08:11,514 --> 00:08:12,842 There's no blood. 192 00:08:12,913 --> 00:08:16,036 Doesn't look like James Reed was killed in his apartment. 193 00:08:16,111 --> 00:08:18,405 A syllabus for a clinical psych class, 194 00:08:18,476 --> 00:08:19,804 Hudson University. 195 00:08:19,874 --> 00:08:22,464 Looks like he was going for his master's. 196 00:08:25,603 --> 00:08:28,432 "Me and Phil, Thousand Islands, June, '03." 197 00:08:28,735 --> 00:08:30,200 They're happy. 198 00:08:30,634 --> 00:08:32,757 Unless Phil's the one he spent his last night with. 199 00:08:32,832 --> 00:08:34,319 Look at this. 200 00:08:35,630 --> 00:08:37,821 Four letters from Derek Singer, all unopened. 201 00:08:37,895 --> 00:08:39,326 I guess he was telling the truth. 202 00:08:39,394 --> 00:08:40,790 Those two were depressing. 203 00:08:40,859 --> 00:08:43,687 Trying to convince themselves and everybody else that they're happy. 204 00:08:43,757 --> 00:08:44,847 Maybe they are. 205 00:08:44,923 --> 00:08:48,251 Elliot, you can't tell me that repressing your sexual desires 206 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:49,979 makes a gay person a good Christian. 207 00:08:50,052 --> 00:08:53,483 I don't know. Maybe some choose to be gay, others choose to be straight. 208 00:08:53,550 --> 00:08:55,344 Oh, so you chose to be heterosexual? 209 00:08:55,416 --> 00:08:57,005 Me? No. 210 00:08:57,847 --> 00:08:59,368 Check this out. 211 00:08:59,446 --> 00:09:01,411 "All queers will burn 212 00:09:01,478 --> 00:09:04,169 in the eternal fire of hell, so sayeth the Lord." 213 00:09:04,243 --> 00:09:06,105 Somehow I don't think that's a direct quote. 214 00:09:06,175 --> 00:09:07,231 Hate mail? Yeah. 215 00:09:07,307 --> 00:09:08,703 About 20, 30 pieces of it. 216 00:09:08,773 --> 00:09:10,635 All coming from Nebraska. 217 00:09:10,705 --> 00:09:11,931 No return address. 218 00:09:12,004 --> 00:09:14,593 I guess word of Reed's defection slipped out. 219 00:09:14,668 --> 00:09:16,394 Let's see if the boyfriend in the picture 220 00:09:16,467 --> 00:09:18,295 knows who sent them. 221 00:09:19,731 --> 00:09:21,821 Phone number for Phil Sona. 222 00:09:22,497 --> 00:09:25,427 I read about James' death in the paper. I'm sick about it. 223 00:09:25,494 --> 00:09:26,482 I found it odd 224 00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:29,080 you didn't report your boyfriend missing, Dr. Phil. 225 00:09:29,158 --> 00:09:30,623 Ex-boyfriend. 226 00:09:30,890 --> 00:09:32,355 We broke up three months ago. 227 00:09:32,423 --> 00:09:33,819 But James doesn't have any family, 228 00:09:33,888 --> 00:09:36,250 so I'm taking care of the funeral arrangements. 229 00:09:36,353 --> 00:09:38,045 Look, I know you guys have a job to do, 230 00:09:38,119 --> 00:09:39,845 but I didn't kill James. 231 00:09:40,217 --> 00:09:42,374 I was at a seminar in Detroit the night he died. 232 00:09:42,448 --> 00:09:44,038 Why the breakup? 233 00:09:44,347 --> 00:09:46,005 Just wasn't the love of my life. 234 00:09:46,079 --> 00:09:47,703 I wasn't his, either. 235 00:09:47,945 --> 00:09:50,432 We both got what we needed at the time. 236 00:09:50,509 --> 00:09:52,099 A reason to leave ReGenesis. 237 00:09:52,241 --> 00:09:53,831 That is where we met. 238 00:09:54,307 --> 00:09:56,703 Taking the reorientation therapy. 239 00:09:56,871 --> 00:09:59,233 Support groups, prayer groups. 240 00:09:59,536 --> 00:10:01,591 Then we turned to each other and were like, 241 00:10:01,668 --> 00:10:03,257 "What the hell are we doing here?" 242 00:10:03,333 --> 00:10:05,593 You thought the whole thing was a crock? 243 00:10:05,665 --> 00:10:06,823 No. For a long time 244 00:10:06,897 --> 00:10:09,884 I thought things would be easier if I was straight. 245 00:10:09,962 --> 00:10:13,119 Now I can't imagine wanting to be anybody other than who I am. 246 00:10:13,193 --> 00:10:16,089 And that is the one good thing I learned at ReGenesis. 247 00:10:16,157 --> 00:10:18,122 Do you think that any ReGenesis member 248 00:10:18,190 --> 00:10:20,484 would be angry enough to go after James? 249 00:10:20,555 --> 00:10:22,883 I doubt it. They're basically good people. 250 00:10:22,953 --> 00:10:26,507 They just believe that God has given them a roadmap for how to live. 251 00:10:26,583 --> 00:10:28,843 But I don't think it's that easy. 252 00:10:29,581 --> 00:10:32,102 These letters, do you know who wrote them? 253 00:10:32,213 --> 00:10:35,006 If that's more hate mail, could have been anybody. 254 00:10:35,078 --> 00:10:37,871 James had written some angry articles bashing ReGenesis. 255 00:10:37,942 --> 00:10:40,462 I said, "You're making a target of yourself." 256 00:10:40,540 --> 00:10:43,504 Dr. Sona, James may have been with a man the night he was murdered. 257 00:10:43,571 --> 00:10:45,331 Do you know if he had a new boyfriend? 258 00:10:45,403 --> 00:10:47,095 He said he was seeing somebody. 259 00:10:47,169 --> 00:10:49,725 I don't know who. Didn't sound like it was gonna work out. 260 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,459 The guy was way in the closet. 261 00:10:51,532 --> 00:10:54,655 Maybe he'll come out long enough to attend the funeral. 262 00:10:55,962 --> 00:10:57,688 [Crowd chanting] 263 00:10:57,761 --> 00:10:58,851 What the hell is this? 264 00:10:58,927 --> 00:11:01,016 Members of the Church of Eternal Providence 265 00:11:01,092 --> 00:11:03,249 visiting from beautiful Danville, Nebraska. 266 00:11:03,324 --> 00:11:04,311 Got our hate mailers. 267 00:11:04,389 --> 00:11:05,945 They got permits for the sidewalk. 268 00:11:06,021 --> 00:11:08,485 Waiting for them to step over it so I can shut them up. 269 00:11:08,553 --> 00:11:09,745 Get a line on the boyfriend? 270 00:11:09,819 --> 00:11:12,510 Nobody claims to be or claims to know who was dating Reed. 271 00:11:12,583 --> 00:11:14,139 God hates you, you hypocrite. 272 00:11:14,215 --> 00:11:15,703 Get the hell out of here. 273 00:11:15,815 --> 00:11:19,245 The Lord said all sodomites should be put to death. 274 00:11:19,313 --> 00:11:22,504 Oh, his might has been shown to all those who believe. 275 00:11:22,576 --> 00:11:24,007 You're going to let them do this? 276 00:11:24,075 --> 00:11:25,972 The Reverend has the right to free speech! 277 00:11:26,041 --> 00:11:28,335 The Lord Almighty killed James Reed 278 00:11:28,406 --> 00:11:30,996 for being a disgusting faggot whore. 279 00:11:31,070 --> 00:11:34,625 All right. That's right, we're all fags and we're not going anywhere. 280 00:11:34,701 --> 00:11:37,563 We're gonna be sitting here laughing our asses off! 281 00:11:37,932 --> 00:11:39,226 Okay. That's it. 282 00:11:39,298 --> 00:11:41,263 Protest is over, Rev. 283 00:11:41,330 --> 00:11:42,919 This is a legal demonstration. 284 00:11:42,995 --> 00:11:44,550 Not anymore. 285 00:11:44,627 --> 00:11:46,683 Down. You're trespassing. 286 00:11:46,792 --> 00:11:48,620 [Crowd yelling] 287 00:11:50,657 --> 00:11:52,553 Reverend Mitchell Shaw. 288 00:11:54,221 --> 00:11:56,082 You really get around. 289 00:11:56,286 --> 00:12:00,011 Protesting in Vermont, at the Supreme Court. 290 00:12:02,115 --> 00:12:05,806 Cheering at the funeral of a 6-year-old who died of AIDS. 291 00:12:05,879 --> 00:12:08,365 Maybe you should switch to a career in publicity. 292 00:12:08,443 --> 00:12:10,839 The Lord asked me to do his work. 293 00:12:11,075 --> 00:12:13,369 Did he ask you to ignore all that 294 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,166 "love thy neighbor" stuff? 295 00:12:15,538 --> 00:12:19,433 "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, 296 00:12:19,569 --> 00:12:22,260 "both of them have committed an abomination: 297 00:12:22,333 --> 00:12:24,195 "They shall surely be put to death, 298 00:12:24,266 --> 00:12:27,253 their blood shall be upon them." Leviticus. 299 00:12:27,330 --> 00:12:30,055 The Bible also says I can sell my daughters into slavery 300 00:12:30,128 --> 00:12:32,592 and be put to death if I work on Sundays. 301 00:12:32,993 --> 00:12:34,617 Twelve years of Catholic school. 302 00:12:34,691 --> 00:12:36,315 Anybody can memorize words, Reverend. 303 00:12:36,390 --> 00:12:37,945 Doesn't make them righteous. 304 00:12:38,022 --> 00:12:40,146 This city is full of sodomites, 305 00:12:40,220 --> 00:12:42,741 and you waste your time protecting them? 306 00:12:42,885 --> 00:12:47,042 And yet you wonder why so many of your NYPD brothers 307 00:12:47,116 --> 00:12:50,079 were struck down on September 11? 308 00:12:50,413 --> 00:12:53,899 Do you not see the Lord's judgment upon you? 309 00:12:59,174 --> 00:13:01,933 I see a scared, shriveled up, piece of trash 310 00:13:02,005 --> 00:13:04,730 who uses God to justify his bigotry. 311 00:13:05,036 --> 00:13:07,330 (Benson) This guy doesn't believe half of what he says. 312 00:13:07,401 --> 00:13:09,365 He's trying to get his name in the papers. 313 00:13:09,433 --> 00:13:11,057 I speak the truth. 314 00:13:11,265 --> 00:13:14,423 Well, then you won't deny calling James Reed a fag, 315 00:13:14,495 --> 00:13:16,188 an AIDS-infested fag. 316 00:13:16,261 --> 00:13:18,885 You can't prosecute me for writing letters. 317 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:20,220 We can if you killed the guy. 318 00:13:20,291 --> 00:13:23,312 The Lord passed his own judgment on James Reed. 319 00:13:23,389 --> 00:13:25,377 You're just doing his work for him, is that it? 320 00:13:25,455 --> 00:13:27,681 I wish I had sent Reed to hell. 321 00:13:28,386 --> 00:13:30,748 But I was a thousand miles away. 322 00:13:33,682 --> 00:13:36,169 Go back in there and strangle the son of a bitch. 323 00:13:36,247 --> 00:13:38,235 I want to invite him to the Christmas party. 324 00:13:38,312 --> 00:13:39,607 The Lord spoke to him. 325 00:13:39,678 --> 00:13:43,073 The Lord sent an angel to talk to the mother of his only Son, 326 00:13:43,142 --> 00:13:44,471 but he spoke to Reverend Shaw. 327 00:13:44,541 --> 00:13:46,062 He's a very special guy. 328 00:13:46,140 --> 00:13:47,469 How's his alibi? 329 00:13:47,539 --> 00:13:49,003 Danville P.D. Confirmed it, 330 00:13:49,071 --> 00:13:51,126 had their hands full with another picket organized 331 00:13:51,203 --> 00:13:53,361 by the Reverend on the night of Reed's murder. 332 00:13:53,434 --> 00:13:56,228 Then he's nothing to us. Cut him and the rest of his people loose. 333 00:13:56,300 --> 00:13:57,390 He targeted Reed. 334 00:13:57,465 --> 00:13:59,520 One of his followers could have taken him seriously. 335 00:13:59,597 --> 00:14:02,425 You connect one of the members of Shaw's congregation to the murder, 336 00:14:02,495 --> 00:14:05,254 I might be able to get him on the Fighting Words doctrine. 337 00:14:05,326 --> 00:14:06,552 Till then, First Amendment says 338 00:14:06,625 --> 00:14:08,885 he can enjoy his civil liberties like everybody else. 339 00:14:08,957 --> 00:14:11,046 We'll check out his followers anyway. 340 00:14:11,122 --> 00:14:12,609 In the meantime, if we're thinkin' 341 00:14:12,687 --> 00:14:14,709 Reed's killer was the last person he slept with, 342 00:14:14,786 --> 00:14:16,546 there's a real problem with this theory. 343 00:14:16,618 --> 00:14:19,377 None of Shaw's people would ever have had sex with Reed. 344 00:14:19,449 --> 00:14:20,641 They just would've killed him. 345 00:14:20,715 --> 00:14:22,906 We've still got the mystery boyfriend out there somewhere. 346 00:14:22,980 --> 00:14:25,001 What did you get from the people at Reed's funeral? 347 00:14:25,078 --> 00:14:26,565 Not much. After the fight broke out, 348 00:14:26,644 --> 00:14:28,700 a bunch of people left before we got their names. 349 00:14:28,776 --> 00:14:29,934 But we got their pictures. 350 00:14:30,009 --> 00:14:31,201 Where the hell is that from? 351 00:14:31,274 --> 00:14:34,000 One of Rev. Shaw's church members. He must've left it behind. 352 00:14:34,072 --> 00:14:36,263 I didn't hear that. (Cragen) Get it back to him, John. 353 00:14:36,337 --> 00:14:38,631 I'll be happy to. I'll even develop his film for free. 354 00:14:38,702 --> 00:14:40,394 Show the pictures to the people 355 00:14:40,468 --> 00:14:41,955 you talked to at Reed's funeral. 356 00:14:42,033 --> 00:14:45,020 Maybe they can help ID the ones that got away. 357 00:14:48,295 --> 00:14:49,987 (Waldman) I told you at the cemetery, 358 00:14:50,060 --> 00:14:52,684 I really only knew James as his advisor. 359 00:14:52,758 --> 00:14:54,780 L... I don't know his friends. 360 00:14:54,857 --> 00:14:57,048 He never mentioned dating anyone, Dr. Waldman? 361 00:14:57,122 --> 00:14:59,450 All we talked about was his research. 362 00:14:59,521 --> 00:15:01,781 A shame, it was shaping up to be quite provocative. 363 00:15:01,852 --> 00:15:02,942 How so? 364 00:15:03,018 --> 00:15:06,073 He was planning a long-term study on reparative therapy, 365 00:15:06,149 --> 00:15:08,341 the idea that same-sex attraction 366 00:15:08,413 --> 00:15:10,571 is a form of arrested development 367 00:15:10,646 --> 00:15:11,872 and can be cured. 368 00:15:11,944 --> 00:15:13,738 Don't most shrinks think that's crap? 369 00:15:13,810 --> 00:15:14,798 They do. 370 00:15:14,909 --> 00:15:18,032 Reparative therapy is experimental and unproven at best. 371 00:15:18,107 --> 00:15:19,469 And at worst? 372 00:15:19,539 --> 00:15:21,697 Early research indicates that patients 373 00:15:21,771 --> 00:15:24,291 can develop anxiety, depression, 374 00:15:24,536 --> 00:15:26,557 and an increased risk of suicide. 375 00:15:26,634 --> 00:15:29,064 Now, what was so provocative about James' research? 376 00:15:29,133 --> 00:15:32,097 That reparative therapists know their treatment doesn't work, 377 00:15:32,164 --> 00:15:34,593 yet they prey on vulnerable patients 378 00:15:34,661 --> 00:15:37,057 and take their money for a snake-oil cure. 379 00:15:37,127 --> 00:15:38,887 That could've ruined a few careers. 380 00:15:38,959 --> 00:15:40,890 Might be a motive for murder. 381 00:15:41,257 --> 00:15:44,346 I'd agree, except no one outside 382 00:15:44,422 --> 00:15:47,510 the three professors on the thesis committee had read the proposal. 383 00:15:47,586 --> 00:15:48,812 We're gonna need their names. 384 00:15:48,885 --> 00:15:49,907 Of course. 385 00:15:49,984 --> 00:15:53,142 Actually, there was a fourth professor, but he resigned. 386 00:15:53,215 --> 00:15:55,009 And who was that? Roger Tate. 387 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,045 He's a proponent of reparative therapy 388 00:15:57,113 --> 00:15:59,906 which is why I wanted him to sit on the committee. 389 00:15:59,977 --> 00:16:03,736 But he thought there were methodological problems with the study. 390 00:16:03,807 --> 00:16:05,738 We want to talk to him first. 391 00:16:06,139 --> 00:16:08,263 Mr. Reed and I had differences of opinion, 392 00:16:08,337 --> 00:16:10,427 but I liked and respected him. 393 00:16:10,503 --> 00:16:12,831 We've debated each other over 394 00:16:12,901 --> 00:16:15,296 the past few months in several symposiums. 395 00:16:16,032 --> 00:16:19,325 These debates, he thought gay was being okay and you didn't? 396 00:16:19,396 --> 00:16:22,690 I personally have nothing against homosexuals. 397 00:16:22,761 --> 00:16:25,224 But Mr. Reed believed homosexuality 398 00:16:25,292 --> 00:16:27,688 was a naturally occurring variant. 399 00:16:27,757 --> 00:16:29,688 Like left-handedness. 400 00:16:29,788 --> 00:16:32,752 I believe it's a complex pathology. 401 00:16:32,820 --> 00:16:33,944 And you can cure it. 402 00:16:34,019 --> 00:16:35,041 No. 403 00:16:35,118 --> 00:16:38,173 But by understanding the root of their neuroses, 404 00:16:38,249 --> 00:16:41,940 they can begin to control their neurotic tendencies. 405 00:16:42,013 --> 00:16:45,068 When homosexuals know the causes of their condition, 406 00:16:45,144 --> 00:16:47,370 they're more able to change their behavior 407 00:16:47,443 --> 00:16:48,840 if they choose to do so. 408 00:16:48,909 --> 00:16:50,770 So what causes that condition? 409 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,201 My research has shown that an overbearing mother 410 00:16:54,271 --> 00:16:56,065 combined with a distant father 411 00:16:56,136 --> 00:16:59,294 often influences psycho-sexual development. 412 00:16:59,734 --> 00:17:02,198 A boy longs for a relationship with the father, 413 00:17:02,266 --> 00:17:05,627 and when he doesn't get it, he seeks it out in other men. 414 00:17:05,696 --> 00:17:07,785 Must have really burned you that Reed's research 415 00:17:07,861 --> 00:17:09,916 was gonna torpedo all your work. 416 00:17:09,993 --> 00:17:11,787 Or at least torpedo your wallet? 417 00:17:11,858 --> 00:17:13,482 His methods were shoddy. 418 00:17:13,557 --> 00:17:16,521 I doubt if his research would ever have been published. 419 00:17:16,588 --> 00:17:19,347 I may have disagreed with Mr. Reed, but I didn't hate him. 420 00:17:19,420 --> 00:17:21,714 If nothing else, I felt sorry for him. 421 00:17:21,785 --> 00:17:23,250 I treat men every day 422 00:17:23,316 --> 00:17:25,281 who are trying to fill their empty lives 423 00:17:25,349 --> 00:17:28,336 with anonymous sex and loveless relationships. 424 00:17:29,079 --> 00:17:32,634 Reed spent so much energy trying to convince himself 425 00:17:32,710 --> 00:17:34,800 that he was normal, happy. 426 00:17:35,808 --> 00:17:37,863 But how could he have been? 427 00:17:37,939 --> 00:17:40,926 If an overbearing mother and a distant father cause homosexuality, 428 00:17:41,004 --> 00:17:42,094 how come I'm not gay? 429 00:17:42,170 --> 00:17:43,328 Maybe you're in denial. 430 00:17:43,403 --> 00:17:45,424 That would explain a lot. 431 00:17:48,066 --> 00:17:50,257 Excuse me. Was that Elliot Stabler? 432 00:17:50,331 --> 00:17:52,659 No. That's lan. Dr. Tate's son. 433 00:17:52,995 --> 00:17:54,392 My mistake. 434 00:17:54,861 --> 00:17:56,019 What was that? 435 00:17:56,093 --> 00:17:57,819 I recognized him from his picture. 436 00:17:58,126 --> 00:18:01,214 Lan Tate, at Reed's funeral, 20-years-old, no record. 437 00:18:01,289 --> 00:18:02,777 Enrolled in a university upstate, 438 00:18:02,855 --> 00:18:04,911 dropped out half-way through the first semester, 439 00:18:04,987 --> 00:18:06,417 now he's at a community college. 440 00:18:06,486 --> 00:18:08,041 Mother died when he was 12 years old, 441 00:18:08,118 --> 00:18:09,583 his father pays for his apartment 442 00:18:09,650 --> 00:18:12,580 which is half a block away from where we found James Reed's body. 443 00:18:12,648 --> 00:18:14,340 We dumped lan's and Reed's phones, 444 00:18:14,413 --> 00:18:16,900 past two months, there were over 50 calls. 445 00:18:16,978 --> 00:18:19,703 Including one from lan to Reed the night he was killed. 446 00:18:19,776 --> 00:18:22,263 They knew each other well enough for lan to go to his funeral. 447 00:18:22,341 --> 00:18:24,567 So we're saying Dr. Homophobe's son is gay, 448 00:18:24,639 --> 00:18:26,263 and killed his boyfriend? 449 00:18:26,338 --> 00:18:28,495 Well, if he was ashamed of his sexual identity, 450 00:18:28,570 --> 00:18:31,329 then he may have been driven to destroy the man who personified it. 451 00:18:31,401 --> 00:18:33,865 With a father like Tate, no wonder he tried to hide it. 452 00:18:33,933 --> 00:18:35,522 You're not gay, son. You're crazy. 453 00:18:35,598 --> 00:18:38,756 A lot of gay people suffer from some kind of internalized homophobia. 454 00:18:38,829 --> 00:18:40,919 They all grew up in the same culture that we did, 455 00:18:40,995 --> 00:18:44,390 where being gay was considered weird or sick or evil. 456 00:18:44,459 --> 00:18:46,787 Combine that with Dr. Tate spending years 457 00:18:46,857 --> 00:18:49,877 promoting the idea that homosexuality is unacceptable... 458 00:18:49,954 --> 00:18:51,249 His son must hate himself. 459 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,772 And he might do anything to keep the illusion that he was straight. 460 00:18:54,851 --> 00:18:56,713 See if you can break it. 461 00:19:01,013 --> 00:19:02,308 (Stabler) Lan Tate? 462 00:19:03,445 --> 00:19:04,842 We need to talk to you. 463 00:19:04,911 --> 00:19:07,000 Why don't you come on down to the station with us? 464 00:19:07,076 --> 00:19:09,767 I can't. I've got class. I'm already late. 465 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,862 (Benson) It's about James Reed. 466 00:19:12,805 --> 00:19:14,100 Never heard of him. 467 00:19:14,171 --> 00:19:15,533 You've never heard of him? 468 00:19:15,602 --> 00:19:17,328 You've been talking to him for two months 469 00:19:17,401 --> 00:19:19,695 and we've got the phone records to prove it. 470 00:19:22,332 --> 00:19:23,660 He's dead. 471 00:19:24,762 --> 00:19:26,318 I didn't do it. 472 00:19:26,395 --> 00:19:27,360 Lan, 473 00:19:27,428 --> 00:19:29,393 there's lots of ways this could've gone down. 474 00:19:29,459 --> 00:19:32,219 You guys were together, you got in a fight, things got out of hand. 475 00:19:32,291 --> 00:19:34,619 That's sick. He was harassing me. 476 00:19:34,689 --> 00:19:35,881 (Stabler) Why? 477 00:19:36,387 --> 00:19:37,818 Because of my father. 478 00:19:37,887 --> 00:19:39,317 I met him at one of my Dad's talks, 479 00:19:39,385 --> 00:19:41,475 guy just starts in on me. Freaking faggot. 480 00:19:41,551 --> 00:19:42,743 Faggot? 481 00:19:43,649 --> 00:19:45,943 Boy, lan, buddy. You're a walking cliche. 482 00:19:46,014 --> 00:19:49,637 Most homophobes are actually repressed homosexuals. You know that? 483 00:19:49,712 --> 00:19:51,972 This is gonna be a lot easier if you're honest with us. 484 00:19:52,044 --> 00:19:53,440 I'm not gay. 485 00:19:53,642 --> 00:19:55,266 And I didn't kill him. You get it? 486 00:19:55,341 --> 00:19:56,363 Need some help? 487 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,302 Why don't you come with us down to the station, give us a DNA sample, 488 00:19:59,371 --> 00:20:00,461 we'll leave you alone. 489 00:20:00,537 --> 00:20:01,593 No. 490 00:20:06,366 --> 00:20:08,353 We don't have cause to compel a swab. 491 00:20:08,431 --> 00:20:11,361 Why don't we collect ourselves some evidence. 492 00:20:12,195 --> 00:20:13,750 Faulty dryer maybe? 493 00:20:13,827 --> 00:20:16,223 Public area. Don't need a warrant. 494 00:20:21,255 --> 00:20:23,277 This one looks clean, too. 495 00:20:25,086 --> 00:20:27,414 It's barely giving off any heat. 496 00:20:29,650 --> 00:20:31,376 This one's on fire. 497 00:20:39,576 --> 00:20:40,666 Liv. 498 00:20:46,437 --> 00:20:48,368 That looks like blue melted nylon to me. 499 00:20:48,436 --> 00:20:51,797 And that should get us a warrant for lan's apartment. 500 00:20:57,263 --> 00:20:59,091 (Stabler) Place has been cleaned. 501 00:20:59,228 --> 00:21:01,749 Smells like somebody painted in here. 502 00:21:06,056 --> 00:21:08,350 Guy had dry wall in his hair. 503 00:21:08,521 --> 00:21:10,849 These walls aren't even chipped. 504 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,879 The mattress looks like it's brand-new. 505 00:21:13,951 --> 00:21:15,972 Luminol didn't pick up any blood. 506 00:21:16,049 --> 00:21:18,071 He didn't bleed that much. 507 00:21:21,812 --> 00:21:24,537 Elliott, feel that. 508 00:21:28,507 --> 00:21:29,631 It's uneven. 509 00:21:29,707 --> 00:21:30,797 Like it's just been patched. 510 00:21:30,873 --> 00:21:32,235 Right at head-level. Got a saw? 511 00:21:32,304 --> 00:21:33,735 (Siper) Yeah. Bring it. 512 00:21:34,303 --> 00:21:35,562 [Sawing] 513 00:21:36,468 --> 00:21:37,955 (Tate) What the hell is this? 514 00:21:38,033 --> 00:21:39,464 [Man chattering] 515 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:40,758 What are you doing? 516 00:21:40,831 --> 00:21:42,126 Where's your warrant? 517 00:21:42,197 --> 00:21:43,355 Enjoy. 518 00:21:44,429 --> 00:21:47,325 I'm calling a lawyer. You can't destroy private property. 519 00:21:47,393 --> 00:21:48,551 Lan, let's go. 520 00:21:48,626 --> 00:21:51,681 Let's see what we find here first. Just relax. 521 00:22:00,484 --> 00:22:03,243 I got blood. And hair. 522 00:22:04,781 --> 00:22:07,109 All that plastering for nothing, huh? 523 00:22:07,179 --> 00:22:09,336 You're under arrest for the murder of James Reed. 524 00:22:09,411 --> 00:22:11,376 Don't say anything. I'm getting you a lawyer. 525 00:22:11,443 --> 00:22:12,805 Say nothing. 526 00:22:21,635 --> 00:22:25,121 Docket ending 247, the People v. Lan Alexander Tate. 527 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,664 One count murder in the second degree. 528 00:22:28,164 --> 00:22:29,788 Emma Dishell for the defense. 529 00:22:29,863 --> 00:22:32,020 (judge) How does the defendant plead? 530 00:22:32,094 --> 00:22:33,457 Not guilty. 531 00:22:34,093 --> 00:22:35,921 Your thoughts on bail, Miss Novak? 532 00:22:35,991 --> 00:22:37,888 The People request remand, Your Honor. 533 00:22:37,957 --> 00:22:41,046 The defendant committed murder because of his hatred for homosexuals. 534 00:22:41,122 --> 00:22:43,052 We consider him a danger to the community. 535 00:22:43,120 --> 00:22:45,017 My client was defending himself 536 00:22:45,085 --> 00:22:47,640 after being sexually assaulted by the decedent. 537 00:22:47,716 --> 00:22:51,111 Your Honor, there was no evidence or report of assault. 538 00:22:51,181 --> 00:22:53,271 In fact this is the first time anyone's mentioned it. 539 00:22:53,346 --> 00:22:55,537 And as the ADA for Special Victims, 540 00:22:55,611 --> 00:22:57,098 you should know that rape victims 541 00:22:57,177 --> 00:22:58,869 often delay reporting their attacks. 542 00:22:58,942 --> 00:23:00,930 The defendant's semen was found at the scene. 543 00:23:01,007 --> 00:23:03,994 If a woman has an orgasm when she's raped, 544 00:23:04,071 --> 00:23:05,627 does that mean she really wanted it? 545 00:23:05,703 --> 00:23:08,724 That's beyond the scope of these proceedings. 546 00:23:09,002 --> 00:23:11,693 You say you have proof of a rape, Miss Dishell. 547 00:23:11,766 --> 00:23:13,594 Present it to a trial judge. 548 00:23:13,665 --> 00:23:16,685 Until then, the defendant's remanded. Next case. 549 00:23:19,461 --> 00:23:21,255 (Novak) Lan Tate wasn't raped. 550 00:23:21,325 --> 00:23:23,687 It's just a lame attempt at a gay-panic defense. 551 00:23:23,757 --> 00:23:25,585 "He came on to me, so I killed him." 552 00:23:25,656 --> 00:23:27,450 Yeah, that defense rarely works. 553 00:23:27,522 --> 00:23:29,611 The trial judge in the Matthew Shepard case 554 00:23:29,686 --> 00:23:32,048 didn't even allow that theory to be presented. 555 00:23:32,118 --> 00:23:36,047 But in New York, gay-panic falls under extreme emotional disturbance. 556 00:23:36,115 --> 00:23:37,943 And juries still don't buy it. 557 00:23:38,081 --> 00:23:39,909 Then why are you so worried? 558 00:23:43,843 --> 00:23:47,170 Because you know this isn't about the letter of the law. 559 00:23:47,241 --> 00:23:49,728 It's about the jury and their prejudices. 560 00:23:49,805 --> 00:23:53,667 If even one juror thinks that gays are predators and sinners 561 00:23:53,736 --> 00:23:56,256 then your murder conviction gets knocked down to manslaughter. 562 00:23:56,334 --> 00:23:57,560 If not an acquittal. 563 00:23:57,633 --> 00:24:00,529 The Supreme Court may have advanced gay rights in that Texas case, 564 00:24:00,598 --> 00:24:02,926 but they also incited a bit of backlash. 565 00:24:02,996 --> 00:24:04,983 All right. So what am I supposed to do about that? 566 00:24:05,061 --> 00:24:06,719 Take the juice out of the defense. 567 00:24:06,793 --> 00:24:09,780 Prove the defendant himself is a homosexual 568 00:24:09,858 --> 00:24:12,084 and gay-panic goes out the window. 569 00:24:12,156 --> 00:24:16,108 You can't lose your mind over a homosexual advance if you're gay. 570 00:24:16,186 --> 00:24:18,742 Now, the tricky part is not playing the politics. 571 00:24:18,818 --> 00:24:21,338 They want to make this about straight versus gay. 572 00:24:21,416 --> 00:24:23,404 You make it about murder. 573 00:24:23,748 --> 00:24:25,043 Lan Tate is a loner. 574 00:24:25,114 --> 00:24:26,669 The only person that he talks to 575 00:24:26,746 --> 00:24:28,540 on a regular basis is his father. 576 00:24:28,611 --> 00:24:30,700 He's got no friends at school, none in his building. 577 00:24:30,776 --> 00:24:33,968 What about financials, tab from a gay bar, magazine subscriptions? 578 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:34,903 Nothing. 579 00:24:34,973 --> 00:24:37,493 Probably didn't want to leave a paper trail that would out him. 580 00:24:37,571 --> 00:24:39,229 He's never dated anyone else? 581 00:24:39,303 --> 00:24:40,291 I wouldn't be surprised 582 00:24:40,369 --> 00:24:42,764 if James Reed was the only person lan ever dated. 583 00:24:42,834 --> 00:24:44,628 (Munch) Hey, guys. You're late. 584 00:24:44,699 --> 00:24:46,254 I've got a good reason. 585 00:24:46,331 --> 00:24:47,819 Bad news. What is it? 586 00:24:47,897 --> 00:24:49,861 My guess, exhibit "A" for the defense. 587 00:24:49,929 --> 00:24:51,860 The night of James Reed's murder, 588 00:24:51,928 --> 00:24:54,357 the 29 received a call from Stuyvesant's ER. 589 00:24:54,425 --> 00:24:57,583 Patient reporting an assault, that's the 61. 590 00:24:57,856 --> 00:25:00,252 Victim's name, lan Tate. 591 00:25:01,188 --> 00:25:03,482 Checked in at 11:05 that night, 592 00:25:03,619 --> 00:25:05,947 14-centimeter lac on his right arm, 593 00:25:06,017 --> 00:25:07,505 minor contusions to his torso. 594 00:25:07,583 --> 00:25:09,047 Said he got mugged. 595 00:25:09,115 --> 00:25:11,579 The precinct wasn't called until 7:30 the next morning. 596 00:25:11,647 --> 00:25:14,270 Welcome to Thursday night at the Knife and Gun Club, Detective. 597 00:25:14,344 --> 00:25:16,241 We were slammed and he had a long wait. 598 00:25:16,310 --> 00:25:17,570 Any sign of sexual assault? 599 00:25:17,642 --> 00:25:20,834 If I thought he had been, I would've asked. Men underreport as it is. 600 00:25:20,907 --> 00:25:23,462 After he checked in, could he have left and come back? 601 00:25:23,538 --> 00:25:25,400 Nope. You leave, you lose your spot. 602 00:25:25,470 --> 00:25:26,867 Thanks. 603 00:25:26,935 --> 00:25:29,695 61 says the precinct cops 604 00:25:29,767 --> 00:25:31,856 got lan's report at 8:10 that morning. 605 00:25:31,932 --> 00:25:34,226 At 8:30 Reed's body is found seven blocks from here. 606 00:25:34,297 --> 00:25:35,592 It wasn't there at 11:00 p. M, 607 00:25:35,662 --> 00:25:38,683 when lan was on the way to the hospital where he spent the night. 608 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,553 When did he find the time to get rid of the body of a 165-pound man? 609 00:25:41,625 --> 00:25:44,646 Had to be the father. Nobody else is gonna dump a body for him. 610 00:25:44,723 --> 00:25:46,914 We gotta place daddy at that scene. 611 00:25:47,721 --> 00:25:49,015 You guys were right. 612 00:25:49,086 --> 00:25:50,176 What did you find? 613 00:25:50,252 --> 00:25:52,876 That's your victim's blood. We rushed the labs to get the match. 614 00:25:52,950 --> 00:25:54,471 Once your suspect was in custody... 615 00:25:54,549 --> 00:25:55,571 No more rush. 616 00:25:55,648 --> 00:25:56,977 Until now. 617 00:25:57,048 --> 00:25:58,842 Show-and-tell time. 618 00:25:58,912 --> 00:26:01,172 The cheap and fast way to fix a wall 619 00:26:01,244 --> 00:26:03,471 is to put a patch behind the hole, 620 00:26:03,909 --> 00:26:06,396 hold it steady with the string, and plaster over it. 621 00:26:06,473 --> 00:26:10,028 I found another blood sample after the patch was removed. 622 00:26:10,637 --> 00:26:12,897 Then you chip away all the plaster used to fix it, 623 00:26:12,969 --> 00:26:15,229 and you find the perimeter of the initial damage. 624 00:26:15,300 --> 00:26:18,264 Now, if I take your head and bash it through the wall, 625 00:26:18,332 --> 00:26:20,194 my hand is gonna go through as well. 626 00:26:20,264 --> 00:26:22,490 So when I pull my hand out... 627 00:26:24,261 --> 00:26:26,282 That's the killer's blood. 628 00:26:26,393 --> 00:26:27,790 And it's not lan Tate. 629 00:26:27,859 --> 00:26:30,085 DNA came back matching only his "Y" chromosome. 630 00:26:30,157 --> 00:26:31,815 Killer's a close male relative. 631 00:26:31,889 --> 00:26:33,478 No one's closer than Dad. 632 00:26:37,351 --> 00:26:38,374 (Dishell) I'm listening. 633 00:26:38,450 --> 00:26:40,472 Unless the next words out of your mouth are "man two," 634 00:26:40,549 --> 00:26:41,877 we've got nothing to talk about. 635 00:26:41,948 --> 00:26:43,742 I think I can do better than that. 636 00:26:43,813 --> 00:26:45,573 If your client recants his statement. 637 00:26:45,646 --> 00:26:47,338 My statement's the truth. 638 00:26:47,411 --> 00:26:50,204 He forced himself on me and I fought back. 639 00:26:50,476 --> 00:26:53,906 And you dumped the body on the street near your house? 640 00:26:54,373 --> 00:26:55,395 Yeah. 641 00:26:55,472 --> 00:26:56,903 When did you do that? 642 00:26:56,971 --> 00:26:59,332 That night? Or the next morning? 643 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,687 L... I don't remember. 644 00:27:04,765 --> 00:27:05,991 (Dishell) Why does this matter? 645 00:27:06,064 --> 00:27:09,323 I think your client knows exactly why this matters. 646 00:27:11,260 --> 00:27:13,281 He caught you, didn't he? 647 00:27:13,692 --> 00:27:14,952 Shut up. 648 00:27:15,057 --> 00:27:17,647 Lan, going to jail isn't going to help. 649 00:27:17,723 --> 00:27:19,018 I did it. 650 00:27:19,088 --> 00:27:22,779 We found your father's blood in your apartment. 651 00:27:23,352 --> 00:27:24,374 We know what happened. 652 00:27:24,451 --> 00:27:26,382 If you have evidence implicating his father, 653 00:27:26,450 --> 00:27:29,505 you have an obligation to drop the charges and get my client out of here. 654 00:27:29,580 --> 00:27:33,032 And if your client wants to avoid accessory charges, you'll sit down now. 655 00:27:42,072 --> 00:27:43,661 You have no idea. 656 00:27:43,737 --> 00:27:44,929 No. 657 00:27:45,369 --> 00:27:47,890 But I can imagine how you must feel. 658 00:27:50,433 --> 00:27:53,590 James knew what you were going through, didn't he? 659 00:27:55,228 --> 00:27:58,090 He knew what it felt like to hate yourself. 660 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,784 To want to change, and know you can't. 661 00:28:02,357 --> 00:28:05,219 For the first time somebody understood you. 662 00:28:07,054 --> 00:28:08,575 Now he's gone. 663 00:28:10,518 --> 00:28:14,107 You didn't go to the hospital because James attacked you. 664 00:28:14,782 --> 00:28:16,406 Your father did. 665 00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:23,968 He didn't mean to. 666 00:28:25,674 --> 00:28:28,570 He was shocked. Seeing me like that. 667 00:28:35,167 --> 00:28:37,290 Tell them that, okay? 668 00:28:38,665 --> 00:28:40,357 He wasn't himself. 669 00:28:41,995 --> 00:28:43,755 It wasn't his fault. 670 00:28:47,824 --> 00:28:48,811 [Door opens] 671 00:28:49,523 --> 00:28:52,453 What the hell? This is completely... 672 00:28:52,521 --> 00:28:54,485 Really? What is it, Doctor, sick? 673 00:28:54,553 --> 00:28:56,450 Unnatural? So is murder. 674 00:28:56,518 --> 00:28:59,311 Roger Tate, you're under arrest for the murder of James Reed. 675 00:28:59,383 --> 00:29:00,938 You have the right to remain silent. 676 00:29:01,015 --> 00:29:04,274 Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. 677 00:29:07,510 --> 00:29:09,599 She rides her bike to work. 678 00:29:09,742 --> 00:29:12,332 That is so environmentally conscious. 679 00:29:12,740 --> 00:29:14,227 Miss Novak, right? 680 00:29:14,305 --> 00:29:16,202 Your office told me you'd be riding up. 681 00:29:16,271 --> 00:29:18,292 Dave Seaver, representing Roger Tate. 682 00:29:18,369 --> 00:29:19,629 Yeah. I remember your name. 683 00:29:19,701 --> 00:29:22,426 State senate elections. I didn't vote for you. 684 00:29:22,499 --> 00:29:24,861 Neither did most of New York. But that's okay. 685 00:29:24,931 --> 00:29:27,157 My shrink says it's made me less self-destructive. 686 00:29:27,229 --> 00:29:28,285 A little advice, Dave, 687 00:29:28,362 --> 00:29:30,553 you want to court the conservative vote, be my guest. 688 00:29:30,627 --> 00:29:32,058 But I'd find another client. 689 00:29:32,126 --> 00:29:34,420 Roger's no defender of family values. He's just a killer. 690 00:29:34,491 --> 00:29:36,250 He was defending his son from a rapist. 691 00:29:36,322 --> 00:29:37,719 You know, that might've worked 692 00:29:37,788 --> 00:29:39,945 before lan Tate said the sex was consensual. 693 00:29:40,020 --> 00:29:41,417 My client was mistaken. 694 00:29:41,485 --> 00:29:44,506 Which, under the law, is still justifiable homicide. 695 00:29:47,581 --> 00:29:50,636 Your Honor, my client believed he saw a man raping his son. 696 00:29:50,713 --> 00:29:52,677 Article 35 of the Penal Code states 697 00:29:52,744 --> 00:29:55,537 that one can use deadly force to prevent forcible sodomy. 698 00:29:55,609 --> 00:29:57,971 Justification is not a defense for stupidity. 699 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,231 The test is, would a man with the same background 700 00:30:00,305 --> 00:30:03,167 and experiences as my client, respond in the same manner. 701 00:30:03,237 --> 00:30:05,293 A reasonable man, Mr. Seaver. 702 00:30:05,368 --> 00:30:07,060 And no reasonable person believes 703 00:30:07,133 --> 00:30:09,620 two men having sex automatically constitutes rape. 704 00:30:09,699 --> 00:30:12,561 My client's research focused on aggression, promiscuity, 705 00:30:12,630 --> 00:30:14,527 and deviant behavior in homosexual males. 706 00:30:14,596 --> 00:30:15,924 It's not just a crazy belief. 707 00:30:15,994 --> 00:30:17,482 He's done the studies to back it up. 708 00:30:17,559 --> 00:30:19,456 Your Daubert test requires theories 709 00:30:19,525 --> 00:30:21,456 to be accepted by the scientific community. 710 00:30:21,524 --> 00:30:23,250 Dr. Tate's work was not. 711 00:30:23,323 --> 00:30:25,980 I'm not presenting my client's work as accepted scientific theory 712 00:30:26,054 --> 00:30:28,109 but as irrefutable proof of his state of mind. 713 00:30:28,185 --> 00:30:29,650 Tate's own son is homosexual. 714 00:30:29,718 --> 00:30:31,376 And he didn't know that. 715 00:30:31,683 --> 00:30:33,614 Your Honor, did my client possess 716 00:30:33,682 --> 00:30:36,339 the culpable mental state required to commit a crime? 717 00:30:36,413 --> 00:30:37,469 The answer is no. 718 00:30:37,545 --> 00:30:39,339 This defense is an attempt to encourage 719 00:30:39,411 --> 00:30:41,398 and exploit bigotry against homosexuals. 720 00:30:41,476 --> 00:30:43,304 He's going for jury nullification. 721 00:30:43,374 --> 00:30:44,361 Miss Novak, 722 00:30:45,173 --> 00:30:47,694 I'm not convinced that a defense should be rejected 723 00:30:47,771 --> 00:30:50,395 simply because a jury might believe it. 724 00:30:50,503 --> 00:30:53,591 Defining "reasonable" is a very difficult issue. 725 00:30:53,900 --> 00:30:55,558 And it's one that I believe 726 00:30:55,632 --> 00:30:58,494 is better decided by 12 of Dr. Tate's peers. 727 00:31:03,626 --> 00:31:06,056 The night James Reed was killed, 728 00:31:06,325 --> 00:31:08,811 how did your father get into your apartment? 729 00:31:08,889 --> 00:31:11,682 He has a key. He was bringing over dinner. 730 00:31:11,754 --> 00:31:14,241 But you thought he was out of town. 731 00:31:14,685 --> 00:31:18,206 That's why you invited your boyfriend to spend the night? 732 00:31:20,914 --> 00:31:21,971 Yes. 733 00:31:22,580 --> 00:31:25,600 And he caught you in bed with James Reed. 734 00:31:27,276 --> 00:31:28,673 What did he do? 735 00:31:28,742 --> 00:31:30,172 He pulled James away from me. 736 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:31,466 Then what? 737 00:31:31,540 --> 00:31:33,562 Then he pushed James into the wall. 738 00:31:33,639 --> 00:31:35,762 Two or three times. I heard a crack. 739 00:31:36,903 --> 00:31:39,731 James stopped fighting. He was dead. 740 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,097 Your father then attacked you. 741 00:31:42,166 --> 00:31:43,461 What did he say? 742 00:31:43,532 --> 00:31:45,995 He kept asking me how I could do this to him. 743 00:31:46,062 --> 00:31:47,493 Meaning, how could you threaten 744 00:31:47,562 --> 00:31:49,322 his life's work by being homosexual. 745 00:31:49,393 --> 00:31:51,620 Objection. Calls for speculation. 746 00:31:51,691 --> 00:31:53,054 Withdrawn. 747 00:31:54,723 --> 00:31:56,279 Nothing further. 748 00:31:59,220 --> 00:32:01,649 When did you tell your dad you were homosexual? 749 00:32:01,718 --> 00:32:03,013 I didn't. 750 00:32:03,817 --> 00:32:06,043 And you've known for how long? 751 00:32:06,715 --> 00:32:08,145 Since I can remember. 752 00:32:08,213 --> 00:32:10,110 So you've been a liar your whole life. 753 00:32:10,179 --> 00:32:12,938 Must have been difficult hiding that kind of lifestyle. 754 00:32:13,010 --> 00:32:15,372 You even made up a girlfriend, didn't you? 755 00:32:15,442 --> 00:32:16,600 Sandy? 756 00:32:17,673 --> 00:32:18,865 That was high school. 757 00:32:18,939 --> 00:32:21,562 But you must've found some other outlet for your predilections. 758 00:32:21,637 --> 00:32:22,659 Gay pornography. 759 00:32:22,736 --> 00:32:24,996 Objection. Assuming facts not in evidence. 760 00:32:25,068 --> 00:32:26,862 Tone down the rhetoric, Mr. Seaver. 761 00:32:27,533 --> 00:32:28,793 Objection sustained. 762 00:32:29,498 --> 00:32:31,123 Your dad knock you around a lot? 763 00:32:31,197 --> 00:32:32,253 No. Never. 764 00:32:32,330 --> 00:32:35,260 Ever see him get in a physical altercation with anybody? 765 00:32:35,327 --> 00:32:37,417 Once. This kid at school beat me up. 766 00:32:37,493 --> 00:32:39,719 My dad got in a fight with the kid's father, 767 00:32:39,791 --> 00:32:40,983 broke his nose. 768 00:32:41,057 --> 00:32:44,713 So he's only violent when he's defending you. 769 00:32:46,686 --> 00:32:50,706 Lan, why did you confess to James Reed's murder? 770 00:33:00,210 --> 00:33:01,970 What nobody gets 771 00:33:03,873 --> 00:33:06,235 is this happened because of me. 772 00:33:08,670 --> 00:33:10,498 Because of what I am. 773 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,697 If I weren't so sick, 774 00:33:15,665 --> 00:33:17,891 I could have controlled myself. 775 00:33:25,058 --> 00:33:26,613 It was my fault. 776 00:33:27,989 --> 00:33:31,282 I didn't want my dad going to jail for my mistake. 777 00:33:36,583 --> 00:33:38,548 Dr. Cahill, what was the first study 778 00:33:38,615 --> 00:33:40,511 you and Dr. Tate conducted? 779 00:33:40,580 --> 00:33:42,636 (Cahill) We analyzed over 10,000 questionnaires 780 00:33:42,712 --> 00:33:44,302 on male sexuality. 781 00:33:44,378 --> 00:33:46,967 And what conclusions did you and Dr. Tate draw? 782 00:33:47,042 --> 00:33:49,870 That homosexuals solicited sex from minors, 783 00:33:50,074 --> 00:33:52,504 engaged in high-risk behaviors, 784 00:33:52,572 --> 00:33:56,262 and had violent sexual relations more than heterosexuals. 785 00:33:56,336 --> 00:33:58,233 Taking all of Dr. Tate's research 786 00:33:58,301 --> 00:34:00,458 on homosexual behavior into account, 787 00:34:00,533 --> 00:34:03,224 what do you believe are the general conclusions? 788 00:34:03,297 --> 00:34:08,249 Homosexuals suffer a multitude of psychological problems. 789 00:34:08,694 --> 00:34:10,749 They are more likely to be depressed, 790 00:34:10,825 --> 00:34:13,755 alienated, and have issues with rage. 791 00:34:14,556 --> 00:34:17,145 Thank you. No further questions. 792 00:34:20,385 --> 00:34:22,508 Where have these studies been published? 793 00:34:22,583 --> 00:34:23,639 Which one? 794 00:34:23,716 --> 00:34:25,113 Any of them. 795 00:34:25,181 --> 00:34:27,442 They're still being considered for publication. 796 00:34:27,513 --> 00:34:29,478 Oh, good luck with that. 797 00:34:30,312 --> 00:34:33,798 So you say gay people have more sex with minors 798 00:34:33,875 --> 00:34:35,568 than straight people. 799 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,196 Why does almost every other study say 800 00:34:38,272 --> 00:34:40,566 pedophiles are far more likely to be heterosexual? 801 00:34:40,637 --> 00:34:44,896 That is evidence of the bias within the so-called "mainstream" psychology. 802 00:34:44,967 --> 00:34:48,954 So when the American Psychiatric Association removed homosexuality 803 00:34:49,031 --> 00:34:51,860 from its list of mental disorders in 1973, 804 00:34:51,962 --> 00:34:55,585 and every other major medical association followed suit, 805 00:34:55,660 --> 00:34:57,420 you're saying it's all a big conspiracy? 806 00:34:57,492 --> 00:34:58,922 Objection. 807 00:34:59,090 --> 00:35:00,679 (Novak) Nothing further. 808 00:35:01,455 --> 00:35:03,477 I'm ashamed to say 809 00:35:04,186 --> 00:35:07,638 I never suspected lan was a homosexual. 810 00:35:08,916 --> 00:35:10,211 I wish I'd known. 811 00:35:10,283 --> 00:35:11,373 Why? 812 00:35:11,448 --> 00:35:13,106 Wouldn't you have disowned him? 813 00:35:13,180 --> 00:35:14,769 Committed him to a mental hospital? 814 00:35:14,846 --> 00:35:16,901 No. I love my son. 815 00:35:16,977 --> 00:35:19,407 I would have done anything to help him. 816 00:35:20,309 --> 00:35:22,102 No further questions. 817 00:35:25,105 --> 00:35:26,967 You and lan were close? 818 00:35:27,670 --> 00:35:28,760 Yes. 819 00:35:29,668 --> 00:35:32,462 But you claim you didn't know he was gay. 820 00:35:32,833 --> 00:35:34,888 So not that close, I guess. 821 00:35:35,031 --> 00:35:36,462 I love my son. 822 00:35:36,530 --> 00:35:40,482 And yet you let him take the fall for causing James Reed's death. 823 00:35:40,661 --> 00:35:42,682 So maybe the truer statement would be 824 00:35:42,759 --> 00:35:45,155 you love lan, but not as much as you love yourself? 825 00:35:45,224 --> 00:35:47,586 I'm on trial for protecting my son 826 00:35:47,656 --> 00:35:50,619 from a man I thought was raping him. 827 00:35:50,686 --> 00:35:53,276 Then why dump the body? Why conceal the evidence? 828 00:35:53,352 --> 00:35:56,282 Why not call the police and tell them what a righteous guy you are? 829 00:35:56,350 --> 00:35:57,337 Objection. 830 00:35:57,415 --> 00:35:58,641 I love lan. 831 00:35:58,715 --> 00:36:00,373 You keep saying that, Dr. Tate. 832 00:36:00,447 --> 00:36:03,604 You can't tell me how I feel about my son. 833 00:36:03,677 --> 00:36:05,403 How dare you presume 834 00:36:05,476 --> 00:36:07,804 to know anything about our relationship? 835 00:36:07,874 --> 00:36:10,065 Because he's been sitting in this courtroom 836 00:36:10,139 --> 00:36:13,398 while you mount a defense that calls him a deviant. 837 00:36:14,769 --> 00:36:17,733 Now you tell me again how much you love him. 838 00:36:36,887 --> 00:36:38,216 Hey, how'd it go with Tate? 839 00:36:38,285 --> 00:36:39,511 Jurors 8 and 10 believe him. 840 00:36:39,585 --> 00:36:40,777 Enough to hang the jury? 841 00:36:40,850 --> 00:36:43,609 Maybe. In which case, all I've done is out some poor kid. 842 00:36:43,682 --> 00:36:45,613 It's not exactly my favorite legal strategy. 843 00:36:45,681 --> 00:36:47,270 You didn't have a choice. 844 00:36:47,346 --> 00:36:50,333 You've got kids. You ever wonder if one's gay? 845 00:36:52,342 --> 00:36:54,307 I don't know. I haven't asked. 846 00:36:54,374 --> 00:36:56,860 You know your kids. You'd know if one of them was gay. 847 00:36:56,939 --> 00:37:00,097 Exactly. And Tate's whole defense is predicated on the fact 848 00:37:00,170 --> 00:37:02,566 that he never suspected his son was gay. 849 00:37:02,635 --> 00:37:04,099 You don't buy it. 850 00:37:04,167 --> 00:37:06,154 No. But I can't prove it. 851 00:37:06,499 --> 00:37:08,622 Lan had a girlfriend all through high school. 852 00:37:08,697 --> 00:37:10,787 For all appearances, he was straight. 853 00:37:10,862 --> 00:37:14,156 We never found a girlfriend when we were looking at Tate's past. 854 00:37:14,227 --> 00:37:15,851 'Cause we were looking for boyfriends. 855 00:37:15,926 --> 00:37:17,890 If lan knew all along that he was gay, 856 00:37:17,957 --> 00:37:20,183 I bet you that the girlfriend did, too. 857 00:37:20,255 --> 00:37:21,515 Find out. 858 00:37:22,354 --> 00:37:23,909 I haven't talked to lan in years. 859 00:37:23,986 --> 00:37:25,416 I don't know how much I can help. 860 00:37:25,485 --> 00:37:27,211 We appreciate anything you would tell us. 861 00:37:27,284 --> 00:37:30,112 One of the guidance counselors said that you and lan 862 00:37:30,182 --> 00:37:32,204 dated all through high school? 863 00:37:32,281 --> 00:37:35,177 Um, we were good friends. But I wouldn't say we dated. 864 00:37:35,244 --> 00:37:36,766 No? What would you say? 865 00:37:36,844 --> 00:37:39,864 He just wasn't very interested in the physical part. 866 00:37:39,941 --> 00:37:41,065 Which was okay. 867 00:37:41,140 --> 00:37:43,332 L... I really loved him, and he loved me. 868 00:37:43,405 --> 00:37:45,393 So he wasn't really attracted to women? 869 00:37:45,471 --> 00:37:46,958 Well, he never, like, 870 00:37:47,036 --> 00:37:49,432 came out to me or anything. I just knew. 871 00:37:49,501 --> 00:37:51,090 I was happy to be there for him. 872 00:37:51,167 --> 00:37:53,132 So people wouldn't harass him. 873 00:37:53,199 --> 00:37:55,095 Did you ever tell anybody that lan was gay? 874 00:37:55,164 --> 00:37:56,924 Like his father, maybe? 875 00:37:56,996 --> 00:37:59,721 God, no. No way. Lan would've killed me. 876 00:37:59,994 --> 00:38:01,390 I told him. 877 00:38:01,526 --> 00:38:03,048 Mom, are you crazy? Why? 878 00:38:03,124 --> 00:38:04,714 He was such a sweet boy. 879 00:38:04,790 --> 00:38:06,084 Spent so much time around here, 880 00:38:06,156 --> 00:38:07,621 he was like a second child. 881 00:38:07,688 --> 00:38:09,277 I could see how much he was suffering 882 00:38:09,354 --> 00:38:11,409 and I thought Roger should know. 883 00:38:12,451 --> 00:38:13,939 When did you tell him? 884 00:38:14,017 --> 00:38:15,481 The kids' senior year. 885 00:38:15,582 --> 00:38:17,638 I called Roger and I told him: 886 00:38:17,714 --> 00:38:20,678 "Roger, you should talk to lan. He's very depressed." 887 00:38:20,745 --> 00:38:23,005 I just told him. I said, "Roger, your son is gay. 888 00:38:23,077 --> 00:38:26,166 "You're making an incredibly difficult situation worse. 889 00:38:26,242 --> 00:38:28,229 You need to be a father." 890 00:38:28,306 --> 00:38:29,771 How did he respond to that? 891 00:38:29,839 --> 00:38:31,303 He thanked me, 892 00:38:31,371 --> 00:38:33,835 and he asked me never to contact him again. 893 00:38:44,461 --> 00:38:45,687 Lan, what are you doing here? 894 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,724 Why don't you try this manipulation on some little legal-aid attorney 895 00:38:48,792 --> 00:38:50,518 and stop wasting my time. Let's go. 896 00:38:50,591 --> 00:38:52,453 (Novak) This is a one-time offer that's gone 897 00:38:52,522 --> 00:38:54,316 as soon as you walk out that door. 898 00:38:54,387 --> 00:38:55,943 Murder two, 20 to life, 899 00:38:56,019 --> 00:38:58,882 I don't pursue sentence enhancement under the Hate Crimes Act. 900 00:38:58,951 --> 00:39:01,279 And Dr. Tate gets the prison of his choice. 901 00:39:01,349 --> 00:39:05,211 And might I suggest, the security of a Federal prison. 902 00:39:05,646 --> 00:39:06,736 20 years? 903 00:39:06,812 --> 00:39:09,299 With that jury, he's looking at a Man Two, probation. 904 00:39:09,376 --> 00:39:11,398 They haven't heard my rebuttal witness. 905 00:39:11,476 --> 00:39:12,839 Laura Klein. 906 00:39:12,907 --> 00:39:15,235 Consider this your notification. 907 00:39:15,872 --> 00:39:18,428 You remember her, don't you, Dr. Tate? 908 00:39:19,204 --> 00:39:20,759 Sandy's mother. 909 00:39:25,566 --> 00:39:26,825 You knew? 910 00:39:28,230 --> 00:39:32,024 All this time, all these years, and you knew? 911 00:39:32,127 --> 00:39:33,683 Lan, it's not like that. 912 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,247 Yes, it is, Dad. 913 00:39:36,391 --> 00:39:38,446 You know how many times I told myself 914 00:39:38,522 --> 00:39:40,510 it's okay if he thinks gays are sick? 915 00:39:40,588 --> 00:39:42,246 Freaks. Evil. 916 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,580 Because if he knew about me, 917 00:39:45,484 --> 00:39:48,505 if he knew me, he wouldn't say it. 918 00:39:48,816 --> 00:39:50,610 He wouldn't think it. 919 00:39:52,146 --> 00:39:54,111 I didn't do this to hurt you. 920 00:39:54,178 --> 00:39:57,233 But it did hurt me, Dad. Every day. 921 00:39:57,909 --> 00:40:01,395 And I made myself take everything you said, 922 00:40:01,473 --> 00:40:02,994 all that crap, 923 00:40:03,272 --> 00:40:04,736 because I really thought 924 00:40:04,804 --> 00:40:07,234 you wouldn't try to hurt me on purpose. 925 00:40:08,601 --> 00:40:11,826 I mean, who would do that to somebody they really loved? 926 00:40:12,532 --> 00:40:14,190 To their own son? 927 00:40:15,862 --> 00:40:17,417 I can help you. 928 00:40:18,327 --> 00:40:20,950 What makes you think you can make me any more straight 929 00:40:21,025 --> 00:40:23,921 than what I've already tried to do by myself? 930 00:40:27,221 --> 00:40:28,208 Dad, 931 00:40:30,153 --> 00:40:31,674 all you've done 932 00:40:33,316 --> 00:40:35,439 is make me wish I were dead. 933 00:40:51,604 --> 00:40:53,330 They took the plea. 934 00:40:55,135 --> 00:40:57,099 It's so weird, you know. 935 00:40:57,599 --> 00:40:59,393 I've been sitting here for a while, 936 00:40:59,464 --> 00:41:01,690 and everybody who walks by, I wonder: 937 00:41:01,763 --> 00:41:04,556 Does he know? Does she? 938 00:41:07,359 --> 00:41:09,051 James used to always talk about 939 00:41:09,124 --> 00:41:11,452 how happy he was that he was gay. 940 00:41:11,756 --> 00:41:14,186 He said guys are so much more fun. 941 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,941 Yeah, I agree with James. 942 00:41:18,284 --> 00:41:20,373 Everything's different now, you know? 943 00:41:20,449 --> 00:41:21,936 No matter what I do, 944 00:41:23,247 --> 00:41:25,677 nothing will be like it was before. 945 00:41:25,812 --> 00:41:27,776 Lan, I had my job to do, 946 00:41:27,910 --> 00:41:31,102 and I made you deal with something you weren't ready for. 947 00:41:31,175 --> 00:41:32,503 I'm sorry. 948 00:41:34,007 --> 00:41:35,131 Yeah. 949 00:41:39,635 --> 00:41:40,861 I'm not. 72680

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