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It's busy on the streets 2 00:00:46,667 --> 00:00:49,000 as you make your way home to your loved ones 3 00:00:49,083 --> 00:00:51,291 but let me get you in the moody smooth with Philadelphia's own, 4 00:00:51,375 --> 00:00:53,917 Mr. Teddy Pendergrass. 5 00:01:17,500 --> 00:01:20,000 ♪ Close the door ♪ 6 00:01:20,083 --> 00:01:24,875 ♪ Let me give you what you've been waiting for ♪ 7 00:01:26,417 --> 00:01:29,083 ♪ Baby, I got so much love to give ♪ 8 00:01:31,375 --> 00:01:36,500 ♪ And I wanna give it all to you ♪ 9 00:01:38,417 --> 00:01:40,500 ♪ Do-do-do do-do ♪ 10 00:01:40,583 --> 00:01:43,333 ♪ Close the door ♪ 11 00:01:43,417 --> 00:01:46,458 ♪ No need to worry no more ♪ 12 00:01:48,625 --> 00:01:51,041 ♪ Let's bring this day to a pleasant end ♪ 13 00:01:52,750 --> 00:01:57,542 ♪ Girl, it's me and you now ♪ 14 00:02:00,750 --> 00:02:04,000 ♪ I've waited all day long ♪ 15 00:02:04,083 --> 00:02:10,917 ♪ Just to hold you gently in my loving arms ♪ 16 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:15,500 ♪ And it's exactly like I thought it would be ♪ 17 00:02:15,583 --> 00:02:18,625 ♪ Me loving you and you loving me ♪ 18 00:02:18,709 --> 00:02:20,500 ♪ Loving me ♪ 19 00:02:20,583 --> 00:02:23,125 ♪ Love ♪ 20 00:02:23,208 --> 00:02:26,417 ♪ Close the door, baby... ♪ 21 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:50,208 ♪ If you don't know me by now ♪ 22 00:02:50,291 --> 00:02:54,375 ♪ You will never, never, never know me ♪ 23 00:02:54,458 --> 00:02:58,083 ♪ Ooh-ooh-ooh ♪ 24 00:03:01,750 --> 00:03:06,000 ♪ All the things that we've been through ♪ 25 00:03:07,792 --> 00:03:10,875 ♪ You should understand me ♪ 26 00:03:11,709 --> 00:03:14,083 ♪ Like I understand you ♪ 27 00:03:15,792 --> 00:03:18,709 ♪ Now, baby, I know the difference ♪ 28 00:03:19,667 --> 00:03:22,792 ♪ Between right and wrong ♪ 29 00:03:24,625 --> 00:03:27,041 ♪ I ain't gonna do nothing ♪ 30 00:03:27,125 --> 00:03:29,125 ♪ To upset our happy home ♪ 31 00:03:29,458 --> 00:03:31,625 ♪ Oh ♪ 32 00:03:31,709 --> 00:03:35,250 ♪ Oh, don't get so excited ♪ 33 00:03:35,333 --> 00:03:38,542 ♪ When I come home a little late at night ♪ 34 00:03:39,542 --> 00:03:41,750 ♪ 'Cause we only act like children ♪ 35 00:03:41,834 --> 00:03:44,542 ♪ When we argue, fuss and fight ♪ 36 00:03:44,625 --> 00:03:46,417 ♪ Yeah, yeah ♪ 37 00:03:46,500 --> 00:03:49,875 You were talking about Philadelphia, where you came from. 38 00:03:49,959 --> 00:03:52,500 Oh, my God. Filthydelphia, that's we call it. 39 00:03:52,583 --> 00:03:53,917 But I love it. 40 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,333 When you go back now as superstars in your world. 41 00:03:56,417 --> 00:04:00,959 I'm serious. Anybody that has as many hit records as you have. 42 00:04:02,166 --> 00:04:03,542 How are the cats on the corner, the neighborhood? 43 00:04:03,625 --> 00:04:05,792 Now that's a trip. 44 00:04:05,875 --> 00:04:09,083 There's different cats now in the neighborhood. 45 00:04:09,166 --> 00:04:12,083 When I was growing up, I used to run the neighborhood. 46 00:04:12,166 --> 00:04:13,667 I was the biggest jitterbug. 47 00:04:13,750 --> 00:04:16,083 Now you got guys just 16, 17. They don't care about me. 48 00:04:16,166 --> 00:04:20,000 You know, I say, "I used to run this neighborhood." 49 00:04:20,083 --> 00:04:23,000 - They say, "You used to." 50 00:04:23,083 --> 00:04:26,333 I cannot move my mother out of the ghetto. 51 00:04:26,417 --> 00:04:31,625 I try and I say, "Mamma, move." "No. Mm-mm." 52 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,000 I became pregnant, and I lost it 53 00:04:38,083 --> 00:04:42,667 and then again and again and again. 54 00:04:42,750 --> 00:04:45,917 And every time I became pregnant, I would lose it. 55 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,667 Until I become pregnant with Teddy. 56 00:04:49,750 --> 00:04:53,291 He was the seventh but he was the first birth. 57 00:04:55,834 --> 00:04:58,750 My husband walked away. 58 00:04:58,834 --> 00:05:04,041 And I was left to raise a son all by myself. 59 00:05:08,166 --> 00:05:11,917 What I'd like to do is start from the very beginning 60 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:17,250 and just kind of talk from childhood, 61 00:05:17,333 --> 00:05:19,125 just kinda go through my life, you know. 62 00:05:44,458 --> 00:05:46,542 The Mighty Mother Fuckers. 63 00:05:46,625 --> 00:05:49,792 And these guys were terrorists. If they couldn't get you, 64 00:05:49,875 --> 00:05:52,375 they would come to your house and get your family. 65 00:05:52,458 --> 00:05:54,125 It was a tough neighborhood. 66 00:05:54,208 --> 00:05:57,208 You either had to be predator or prey. 67 00:05:57,291 --> 00:05:58,875 It was tough going to schools. 68 00:05:58,959 --> 00:06:01,959 It was just tough trying to be... 69 00:06:02,041 --> 00:06:04,041 on the right side of things. 70 00:06:04,125 --> 00:06:06,041 ♪ Do you wanna party, do you wanna dance? ♪ 71 00:06:06,125 --> 00:06:09,166 Teddy had the bottom mouth, 72 00:06:09,250 --> 00:06:10,375 talked a lot of trash. 73 00:06:10,458 --> 00:06:12,875 He said, "I'm gonna be famous one day 74 00:06:12,959 --> 00:06:15,417 and I'm gonna hire you as my bodyguard." 75 00:06:15,500 --> 00:06:18,959 I looked at him. "Get away from me! Shut up! 76 00:06:19,041 --> 00:06:19,917 Been watching too many movies!" 77 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,125 ♪ Feel like a bird in the air ♪ 78 00:06:24,375 --> 00:06:25,917 ♪ Come on, get up ♪ 79 00:06:27,250 --> 00:06:31,250 ♪ Get up, get down, get funky, get loose ♪ 80 00:06:31,333 --> 00:06:32,667 Teddy Pendergrass, 81 00:06:32,750 --> 00:06:35,250 one of the most popular singers in all of pop music. 82 00:06:35,333 --> 00:06:38,875 He doesn't like labels like soul or R&B or rock 'n' roll 83 00:06:38,959 --> 00:06:42,875 but the one label that's undeniable is that of superstar. 84 00:06:46,834 --> 00:06:48,458 Thank you. Thank you. 85 00:06:48,542 --> 00:06:50,542 You were ordained at the age of ten. 86 00:06:50,625 --> 00:06:52,583 - Yes. - Are you still a minister? 87 00:06:52,667 --> 00:06:57,166 Uh, in some ways, I am still spreading the word. 88 00:07:02,542 --> 00:07:05,333 ♪ Come by here ♪ 89 00:07:05,417 --> 00:07:08,667 ♪ O Lord ♪ 90 00:07:08,750 --> 00:07:11,000 ♪ Come by here ♪ 91 00:07:11,083 --> 00:07:12,875 In church, in black churches, 92 00:07:12,959 --> 00:07:15,166 the major thing is being able to stand up 93 00:07:15,250 --> 00:07:19,250 in front of a group of people and move them. 94 00:07:19,333 --> 00:07:22,875 I mean, so much so until they feel the spirit, 95 00:07:22,959 --> 00:07:25,208 as the spirit is to whatever your belief is. 96 00:07:25,291 --> 00:07:29,000 And that training, and that experience, 97 00:07:29,083 --> 00:07:32,500 I accredit it to what I'm doing today. 98 00:07:32,583 --> 00:07:35,875 ♪ It was nothing but the blood ♪ 99 00:07:35,959 --> 00:07:39,000 ♪ Of Jesus ♪ 100 00:07:39,083 --> 00:07:43,458 - ♪ Hallelujah! ♪ 101 00:07:49,125 --> 00:07:53,250 First time they called that little baby boy to sing, 102 00:07:53,333 --> 00:07:56,417 we were sitting on our pew. 103 00:07:56,500 --> 00:08:00,417 I got up and stood him on a chair 104 00:08:00,500 --> 00:08:02,041 because he was so little. 105 00:08:02,125 --> 00:08:06,333 Everybody could see him and he started singing 106 00:08:06,458 --> 00:08:08,667 "If I Could Write A Letter To Heaven." 107 00:08:13,542 --> 00:08:15,709 And he couldn't hear my voice. 108 00:08:15,792 --> 00:08:20,208 He stopped, and looked up at me and he said, 109 00:08:20,291 --> 00:08:24,458 "Sing, Mother, sing," and then he kept on singing. 110 00:08:25,750 --> 00:08:27,750 When he finished, the applause. 111 00:08:31,875 --> 00:08:35,625 You have no idea how I felt. 112 00:08:36,417 --> 00:08:40,542 The joy, to see my baby. 113 00:08:40,625 --> 00:08:42,792 Ooh! 114 00:08:42,875 --> 00:08:47,542 The New Testament says repent. 115 00:08:48,834 --> 00:08:53,709 It is time for America to repent now. 116 00:09:11,125 --> 00:09:14,500 The promises of the great society 117 00:09:14,583 --> 00:09:18,375 have been shot down on the battlefields of Vietnam. 118 00:09:20,417 --> 00:09:22,917 We were taking the black young men 119 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,208 who had been crippled by society. 120 00:09:27,291 --> 00:09:31,458 Sending them 8,000 miles away, 121 00:09:31,542 --> 00:09:36,417 to guarantee liberties in Southeast Asia 122 00:09:36,500 --> 00:09:37,291 which they had not found 123 00:09:37,375 --> 00:09:41,333 in Southwest Georgia and East Harlem. 124 00:09:48,959 --> 00:09:52,625 ♪ My heart is crying, crying ♪ 125 00:09:52,709 --> 00:09:55,000 ♪ The lonely teardrops ♪ 126 00:09:55,083 --> 00:09:59,417 ♪ My pillow's never dry of lonely teardrops ♪ 127 00:10:17,166 --> 00:10:20,542 ♪ Just give me another chance ♪ 128 00:10:32,792 --> 00:10:36,125 Jackie Wilson had such a command of the audience 129 00:10:36,208 --> 00:10:37,750 and get people to do things, 130 00:10:37,834 --> 00:10:41,208 women throwing underwear up on stage and those type things. 131 00:10:41,291 --> 00:10:42,792 And that fascinated him. 132 00:10:42,875 --> 00:10:44,875 Years later, he's getting the same thing. 133 00:10:44,959 --> 00:10:48,041 I mean, people would throw all types of things on the stage. 134 00:10:49,333 --> 00:10:52,959 ♪ Say that you... ♪ 135 00:11:02,792 --> 00:11:06,458 We used to just sneak inside the Uptown Theater 136 00:11:06,542 --> 00:11:07,542 and we'd just watch everybody. 137 00:11:07,625 --> 00:11:10,750 - ♪ Shoo doo, shoo doo-wop ♪ - Teddy and me, 138 00:11:10,792 --> 00:11:12,917 and we started out singing on a corner. 139 00:11:12,959 --> 00:11:15,166 We were doing high school together 140 00:11:15,291 --> 00:11:16,250 and that's when we got put out. 141 00:11:16,333 --> 00:11:19,000 They moved us out of school 142 00:11:19,083 --> 00:11:21,959 'cause we was cutting class and singing and drinking wine 143 00:11:22,041 --> 00:11:23,458 and our parents didn't know that. 144 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:36,959 The most important thing 145 00:11:37,041 --> 00:11:41,083 about any particular city that has music talent, 146 00:11:41,166 --> 00:11:44,000 it really just boils down to community. 147 00:11:53,750 --> 00:11:55,792 Philadelphia is one of those towns 148 00:11:55,875 --> 00:11:58,000 in which people stick together, 149 00:11:58,083 --> 00:12:01,458 so a lot of song writers, a lot of musicians, 150 00:12:01,542 --> 00:12:05,000 um, kinda work with each other and network with each other, 151 00:12:05,083 --> 00:12:06,625 and collaborate with each other. 152 00:12:06,709 --> 00:12:09,375 That's what makes Philadelphia special. 153 00:12:15,125 --> 00:12:17,375 This gentleman is Kenny Gamble. 154 00:12:17,458 --> 00:12:19,792 Over here is Leon Huff 155 00:12:19,875 --> 00:12:22,959 and the gentleman in the middle is Joe Tarsier. 156 00:12:23,041 --> 00:12:25,458 This is perhaps the happiest triumvirate you'll ever meet. 157 00:12:25,542 --> 00:12:28,917 The recordings these guys have made together 158 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,875 are played on every radio and television station 159 00:12:30,959 --> 00:12:33,417 in the world. 160 00:12:33,500 --> 00:12:36,500 That famous Philadelphia sound 161 00:12:36,583 --> 00:12:41,041 could not have reached the level of prominence it enjoys 162 00:12:41,125 --> 00:12:42,959 without the mighty Blue Notes. 163 00:12:43,041 --> 00:12:45,417 Harold Melvin was a genius. 164 00:12:45,500 --> 00:12:49,709 He probably could take me and Huff, make us the Blue Notes. 165 00:12:49,792 --> 00:12:50,834 Yeah, yeah. 166 00:12:50,917 --> 00:12:52,917 ♪ If you don't know me by now ♪ 167 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,583 Harold Melvin was the person who found Teddy. 168 00:12:56,667 --> 00:12:59,750 Huff called me up and said, "Man, you gotta hear this guy." 169 00:12:59,834 --> 00:13:03,125 Teddy's voice rang out over all the background. 170 00:13:03,208 --> 00:13:05,583 It just stuck out. 171 00:13:05,667 --> 00:13:09,792 Tried him on a song, "I Miss You." And um... 172 00:13:09,875 --> 00:13:13,792 I said, "Gamble, this guy, he sounds great," you know. 173 00:13:13,875 --> 00:13:18,500 I was really high on him. Really excited about him. 174 00:13:18,583 --> 00:13:21,291 "I Miss You", that was our first record 175 00:13:21,375 --> 00:13:25,417 and we got in the studio and started like doing... 176 00:13:32,041 --> 00:13:34,417 You know. "That's it! That's it!" 177 00:13:37,291 --> 00:13:40,291 ♪ Ooh ♪ 178 00:13:40,375 --> 00:13:42,542 ♪ Ooh, ooh ♪ 179 00:13:42,625 --> 00:13:43,834 ♪ Oh, oh ♪ 180 00:13:43,917 --> 00:13:48,667 - ♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh ♪ - ♪ Oh ♪ 181 00:13:50,375 --> 00:13:52,583 ♪ I miss you, baby ♪ 182 00:13:52,667 --> 00:13:57,166 Not only was he good-looking but he had a presence 183 00:13:57,250 --> 00:14:01,750 and uh... and uh... he had a special voice. 184 00:14:03,959 --> 00:14:04,959 ♪ Ah ♪ 185 00:14:05,041 --> 00:14:07,834 ♪ 'Cause ever since the day you left ♪ 186 00:14:07,917 --> 00:14:11,250 ♪ I don't know what to do with myself ♪ 187 00:14:11,375 --> 00:14:13,750 ♪ Oh, I wish for your return ♪ 188 00:14:13,792 --> 00:14:17,625 - ♪ And, oh, how I yearn ♪ - ♪ How I yearn ♪ 189 00:14:17,750 --> 00:14:21,250 - ♪ 'Cause I ♪ - ♪ Oh, I ♪ 190 00:14:21,333 --> 00:14:22,625 ♪ Oh, I ♪ 191 00:14:22,709 --> 00:14:24,583 That was our first tune. 192 00:14:24,667 --> 00:14:26,792 He came out with, "Ladies and gentlemen, 193 00:14:26,875 --> 00:14:29,750 'I Miss You' from Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes," 194 00:14:29,834 --> 00:14:33,417 and everybody was like, "What the hell is going on?" 195 00:14:33,500 --> 00:14:34,917 It's the Blue Notes. 196 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,750 But Harold, he put his name on the front, 197 00:14:38,834 --> 00:14:40,458 without us knowing it. 198 00:14:40,542 --> 00:14:41,959 With guest stars 199 00:14:42,041 --> 00:14:44,458 Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes. 200 00:14:44,542 --> 00:14:48,291 Harold told Gamble and Huff it was all right with the guys. 201 00:14:48,375 --> 00:14:51,125 You know, he lied to Gamble. 202 00:14:51,208 --> 00:14:53,959 Harold wanted to have his identity a bit more 203 00:14:54,041 --> 00:14:55,792 because Teddy was so dominating 204 00:14:55,875 --> 00:14:59,375 that people thought that he was the leader of the group 205 00:14:59,458 --> 00:15:02,583 and Harold was the leader of the group. 206 00:15:02,667 --> 00:15:05,625 We said let's rename it Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes. 207 00:15:05,709 --> 00:15:09,000 But at that particular time 208 00:15:09,083 --> 00:15:10,750 we were so happy to be out there, 209 00:15:10,834 --> 00:15:12,959 we didn't know later on down the line 210 00:15:13,041 --> 00:15:15,542 it was gonna bite us in the butt. 211 00:15:15,625 --> 00:15:18,125 I was on the radio in Washington DC 212 00:15:18,208 --> 00:15:20,834 when I first heard Teddy and played his music. 213 00:15:20,917 --> 00:15:24,750 Many people thought those vocals belonged to Harold 214 00:15:24,834 --> 00:15:26,166 when they in fact were Teddy. 215 00:15:26,250 --> 00:15:30,417 Harold did sing some leads but the big hits belonged to Teddy, 216 00:15:30,500 --> 00:15:33,709 so I didn't know if Teddy was Harold Melvin 217 00:15:33,792 --> 00:15:35,875 or Harold Melvin was Teddy. 218 00:15:35,959 --> 00:15:38,583 I just thought that Harold Melvin 219 00:15:38,667 --> 00:15:41,083 was the lead of this band. 220 00:15:41,166 --> 00:15:45,041 I couldn't piece together that it wasn't Harold Melvin 221 00:15:45,125 --> 00:15:49,000 singing those songs, that it was Teddy Pendergrass. 222 00:15:56,917 --> 00:16:01,542 Harold's success came from the mouth of Teddy Pendergrass. 223 00:16:01,625 --> 00:16:05,250 We got hits after hits after hits. 224 00:16:05,333 --> 00:16:07,208 You know, and to this day, 225 00:16:07,291 --> 00:16:09,625 there ain't too many groups can mess with us. 226 00:16:09,709 --> 00:16:11,458 Gamble was the lyric writer, basically, 227 00:16:11,542 --> 00:16:14,667 and I played the keyboard, 228 00:16:14,750 --> 00:16:18,041 and we'll be at Gamble's office where that upright was. 229 00:16:18,125 --> 00:16:21,834 You know, two guys in a little room, and recording, 230 00:16:21,875 --> 00:16:23,458 and then the whole world is singing your song. 231 00:16:23,542 --> 00:16:26,834 ♪ Don't leave me this way ♪ 232 00:16:29,625 --> 00:16:33,458 ♪ I can't survive, can't stay alive ♪ 233 00:16:33,542 --> 00:16:35,875 ♪ Without your love ♪ 234 00:16:35,959 --> 00:16:39,083 It was like lightning struck. 235 00:16:39,166 --> 00:16:43,125 The studio was running seven days a week, 20 hours a day. 236 00:16:43,208 --> 00:16:45,208 Very hard on a marriage. 237 00:16:47,667 --> 00:16:50,583 I came home one night and my clothes were on the front lawn. But that's another story. 238 00:16:50,667 --> 00:16:54,917 ♪ Don't leave me this way ♪ 239 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,959 ♪ No ♪ 240 00:16:57,041 --> 00:17:01,291 ♪ Don't leave me this way, hey ♪ 241 00:17:01,375 --> 00:17:03,583 Teddy had a certain clarity 242 00:17:03,667 --> 00:17:06,375 and a certain I would say roughness 243 00:17:06,458 --> 00:17:09,166 but growl that was attractive. 244 00:17:09,250 --> 00:17:12,291 You gotta give a voice like this. Raw meat. 245 00:17:12,375 --> 00:17:14,250 ♪ Aaah ♪ 246 00:17:14,375 --> 00:17:16,875 ♪ Baby ♪ 247 00:17:16,959 --> 00:17:20,583 ♪ My heart is full of love and desire for you ♪ 248 00:17:20,667 --> 00:17:21,709 Teddy made a difference. 249 00:17:21,792 --> 00:17:25,792 You know, he was a challenge for Huff and myself. 250 00:17:25,875 --> 00:17:28,792 - Yeah. - We loved that, you know. 251 00:17:28,875 --> 00:17:32,333 Songs like "The Love I Lost," you know. 252 00:17:53,875 --> 00:17:58,250 ♪ The love I lost ♪ 253 00:17:58,333 --> 00:18:01,208 - ♪ Was a sweet love ♪ 254 00:18:01,291 --> 00:18:04,834 ♪ The love I lost ♪ 255 00:18:05,834 --> 00:18:09,250 ♪ Was complete love ♪ 256 00:18:09,333 --> 00:18:13,583 ♪ The love I lost ♪ 257 00:18:13,667 --> 00:18:16,500 ♪ I will never, no, no, never ♪ 258 00:18:16,583 --> 00:18:20,750 ♪ Love again ♪ 259 00:18:20,834 --> 00:18:24,208 ♪ I can remember planning ♪ 260 00:18:25,458 --> 00:18:27,917 ♪ Building my whole world around you ♪ 261 00:18:28,625 --> 00:18:32,041 ♪ I can remember hoping ♪ 262 00:18:32,125 --> 00:18:36,000 ♪ That you and I could make it on through ♪ 263 00:18:37,875 --> 00:18:40,333 ♪ But something went wrong ♪ 264 00:18:41,709 --> 00:18:45,500 ♪ We loved each other, we just couldn't get along ♪ 265 00:18:45,583 --> 00:18:48,542 ♪ Take a good look at me ♪ 266 00:18:48,625 --> 00:18:51,875 ♪ I'm in misery, can't you see? ♪ 267 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:52,667 ♪ The love I lost ♪ 268 00:18:52,792 --> 00:18:56,166 ♪ The love, the love I lost ♪ 269 00:18:56,250 --> 00:18:57,959 ♪ Was a sweet love ♪ 270 00:18:58,041 --> 00:18:58,625 ♪ Yes, it was ♪ 271 00:18:58,709 --> 00:19:02,500 ♪ The love I lost ♪ 272 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,458 ♪ Was complete love ♪ 273 00:19:06,542 --> 00:19:11,375 ♪ The love I lost ♪ 274 00:19:11,458 --> 00:19:12,250 ♪ I will never ♪ 275 00:19:12,333 --> 00:19:13,792 - ♪ Never - ♪ No, no, never ♪ 276 00:19:13,875 --> 00:19:18,917 - ♪ Never ♪ - ♪ Love again ♪ 277 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:23,750 ♪ I can't remember nothing, no, no, no ♪ 278 00:19:23,834 --> 00:19:25,917 ♪ But the good times we used to share ♪ 279 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,125 Harold tried to take the credit for everything. 280 00:19:29,208 --> 00:19:31,959 Teddy was really making the money for the group. 281 00:19:32,041 --> 00:19:34,750 It was just Harold just messing everything up. 282 00:19:34,834 --> 00:19:36,000 Being greedy. 283 00:19:51,208 --> 00:19:54,000 We were playing at Total Experience in Los Angeles 284 00:19:54,083 --> 00:19:57,000 and, um, a royalty check had come in 285 00:19:57,083 --> 00:19:59,166 and Harold had cashed it. 286 00:19:59,250 --> 00:20:03,125 Bernie, Teddy and Larry were staying in motels, 287 00:20:03,208 --> 00:20:07,125 and Teddy walked to the Beverly Wilshire, 288 00:20:07,208 --> 00:20:09,417 where Harold was staying in a suite. 289 00:20:23,041 --> 00:20:24,500 And Harold said, "I don't think I got it. 290 00:20:24,583 --> 00:20:26,959 I'm a little low on cash 291 00:20:27,041 --> 00:20:28,375 but I'll go upstairs and check it out." 292 00:20:34,208 --> 00:20:38,125 And he saw these... looked like thousands of dollars. 293 00:20:38,208 --> 00:20:43,166 He had a stack of money on the bed, I mean stacks of 294 00:20:43,250 --> 00:20:46,041 what they have in the banks, you know, 295 00:20:46,125 --> 00:20:47,792 with the little wraps on them. 296 00:20:47,875 --> 00:20:52,041 Harold gave him 200 and told him not to tell us. 297 00:21:06,792 --> 00:21:08,834 ♪ Wake up, everybody ♪ 298 00:21:08,917 --> 00:21:11,959 ♪ No more sleeping in bed ♪ 299 00:21:12,041 --> 00:21:13,208 I had to remind myself 300 00:21:13,291 --> 00:21:17,333 that that was a Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes song. 301 00:21:17,417 --> 00:21:20,166 Because it's really a Teddy song. 302 00:21:20,250 --> 00:21:22,667 ♪ What it used to be ♪ 303 00:21:22,750 --> 00:21:26,250 ♪ There is so much hatred, war and poverty ♪ 304 00:21:26,333 --> 00:21:30,542 If it were Teddy Pendergrass and the Blue Notes, 305 00:21:30,625 --> 00:21:32,333 that would've made a difference, 306 00:21:32,417 --> 00:21:35,083 but you can't keep a good man down. 307 00:21:35,166 --> 00:21:38,458 ♪ Wake up, everybody ♪ 308 00:21:38,542 --> 00:21:41,458 We called it "Break Up, Everybody." 309 00:21:41,542 --> 00:21:45,583 Because Teddy left Harold. 310 00:21:45,667 --> 00:21:47,959 The Blue Notes left Harold. 311 00:21:48,041 --> 00:21:49,667 And Teddy went on his own. 312 00:21:49,750 --> 00:21:50,834 The Blue Notes went on their own. 313 00:21:50,917 --> 00:21:53,417 Harold started up another group. 314 00:21:53,500 --> 00:21:56,792 Teddy was preparing to leave Harold 315 00:21:56,875 --> 00:21:59,250 and Harold had made some serious threats 316 00:21:59,333 --> 00:22:03,834 about what would happen to Teddy if he did so. 317 00:22:04,625 --> 00:22:06,583 His life! Threatening his life. 318 00:22:07,417 --> 00:22:09,041 Harold came to me and said 319 00:22:09,125 --> 00:22:12,500 that he wanted to stay with the company 320 00:22:12,583 --> 00:22:14,333 but he didn't want Teddy to be there. 321 00:22:14,417 --> 00:22:17,000 I said we can't do that. Business is business. 322 00:22:17,083 --> 00:22:19,375 - Right. - You know, and um... 323 00:22:19,458 --> 00:22:21,667 I think we made a great decision. 324 00:22:21,750 --> 00:22:26,208 Harold was very angry and didn't wish Teddy well 325 00:22:26,291 --> 00:22:30,291 when he went on his own, said that he would fall on his face. 326 00:22:30,375 --> 00:22:35,166 But then once I heard "I Don't Love You Anymore," 327 00:22:35,250 --> 00:22:36,625 that's it, gone. 328 00:22:36,709 --> 00:22:40,458 ♪ I don't love you anymore ♪ 329 00:22:40,542 --> 00:22:42,750 ♪ It's just that simple ♪ 330 00:22:44,041 --> 00:22:47,166 ♪ No, no, no, not like before ♪ 331 00:22:47,250 --> 00:22:52,208 ♪ Such a shame, dirty shame, yeah ♪ 332 00:22:52,291 --> 00:22:54,417 You quit singing for a while. How come? 333 00:22:54,500 --> 00:22:59,000 Yes, um... we recorded a record once and um... 334 00:22:59,083 --> 00:23:01,834 heard no more from the producer or the record 335 00:23:01,917 --> 00:23:03,166 and we kinda just.. 336 00:23:03,250 --> 00:23:05,542 - That happens, though. - But I was a kid. 337 00:23:05,625 --> 00:23:07,166 Sixteen years old, it meant a lot to me, you know. 338 00:23:07,250 --> 00:23:10,500 - I stopped singing and-- - Completely? 339 00:23:10,583 --> 00:23:11,792 Yeah, for a while. 340 00:23:11,875 --> 00:23:14,959 I said, "I'm gonna play drums and beat my troubles away." 341 00:23:15,041 --> 00:23:17,125 You played drums for other people? 342 00:23:17,208 --> 00:23:19,583 Yeah. I played drums for Harold before I sang with him. 343 00:23:19,667 --> 00:23:23,917 Harold Melvin? I bet you don't play drums for him after this. 344 00:23:23,959 --> 00:23:26,458 I'm gonna get him to play drums for me. No! 345 00:23:27,709 --> 00:23:31,291 Oh, Harold, you got a big one coming. That's funny. 346 00:23:31,375 --> 00:23:33,125 Who plays drums for you now? 347 00:23:33,208 --> 00:23:33,959 A gentleman named James Carter 348 00:23:34,041 --> 00:23:36,000 and I really wouldn't want his job, 349 00:23:36,083 --> 00:23:40,333 because I am hard on him, yeah. 350 00:23:40,417 --> 00:23:43,917 I was 21 years old, you know, at the time, 351 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,000 and I probably was a little tiny bit more handsome 352 00:23:48,083 --> 00:23:50,375 than I am now, not much more. 353 00:23:51,083 --> 00:23:53,959 When I met Teddy, he said, 354 00:23:54,041 --> 00:23:55,542 "Good, you're gonna be all right. 355 00:23:55,625 --> 00:23:58,291 They say drummers with gaps in their teeth can play." 356 00:24:15,041 --> 00:24:17,667 Taaz Lang was the manager. 357 00:24:17,750 --> 00:24:22,583 So one day I got a call saying we need to put a band together. 358 00:24:22,667 --> 00:24:25,333 Teddy knew that I was a band leader at the Uptown 359 00:24:25,417 --> 00:24:29,750 and Teddy asked me to take over the band, and I did, 360 00:24:29,834 --> 00:24:32,000 and that's how it got started. 361 00:24:36,959 --> 00:24:41,709 ♪ Ooh ooh ooh ♪ 362 00:24:42,875 --> 00:24:48,959 ♪ Ooh ooh ooh ♪ 363 00:24:50,417 --> 00:24:53,792 I was walking along 52nd Street trying to get a gig. 364 00:24:55,959 --> 00:24:58,917 - Trying to get... - She will do anything. 365 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,750 - She will sing. - Yes. 366 00:25:00,834 --> 00:25:03,333 And he said, "Do you know me?" And I said, "No." 367 00:25:03,417 --> 00:25:05,625 And he said, "I'm Teddy Pendergrass, you know. 368 00:25:05,709 --> 00:25:07,709 I left Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes 369 00:25:07,792 --> 00:25:11,792 and I'm gonna be big," and I was like, "Yeah. OK." 370 00:25:15,709 --> 00:25:19,417 In the audition he says, "What's going on with you?" 371 00:25:19,500 --> 00:25:22,625 I said, "Those guys got the job, they're great musicians." 372 00:25:22,709 --> 00:25:26,458 He says, "No." He said, "You played what was on the paper. 373 00:25:26,542 --> 00:25:28,083 You can have the job." 374 00:25:32,542 --> 00:25:35,208 I remember just sitting there and, I mean, 375 00:25:35,291 --> 00:25:36,417 I'm the white boy, I'm the youngest, 376 00:25:36,500 --> 00:25:39,917 in a flannel shirt and jeans and hiking boots. 377 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,792 Everybody else is looking Italian. I just really... 378 00:25:42,875 --> 00:25:46,667 We commune through the playing because I kinda understood, 379 00:25:46,750 --> 00:25:48,250 you know, the music. 380 00:25:53,667 --> 00:25:55,834 One night Teddy saw us performing 381 00:25:55,917 --> 00:25:58,917 and Taaz, his manager, called the studio, 382 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,166 and asked if we would dance with him. 383 00:26:01,250 --> 00:26:03,500 We didn't know who he was. "Who is he?" 384 00:26:03,583 --> 00:26:05,375 But what clicked for us was they said, 385 00:26:05,458 --> 00:26:08,166 "Well, he's opening at Carnegie Hall," 386 00:26:08,250 --> 00:26:10,333 and we thought, "Carnegie Hall? 387 00:26:10,417 --> 00:26:14,125 Yes, we'll dance, and we can go to Carnegie Hall." 388 00:26:16,458 --> 00:26:20,917 ♪ Ooh ooh ooh ♪ 389 00:26:47,542 --> 00:26:50,875 Taaz Lang, she said, "Hey, you need to stay here, 390 00:26:50,959 --> 00:26:54,000 it's gonna be good." 391 00:26:55,625 --> 00:26:59,041 Ted loved Taaz. 392 00:26:59,125 --> 00:27:04,041 He always made it very clear how important that she was. 393 00:27:04,125 --> 00:27:07,834 One of the most important relationships in his life 394 00:27:07,917 --> 00:27:10,000 is how he had put it to me. 395 00:27:12,333 --> 00:27:14,333 I knew Taaz pretty good. 396 00:27:14,417 --> 00:27:16,041 She had a beauty shop, like, 397 00:27:16,125 --> 00:27:18,792 talkative, make-it-happen kinda lady, 398 00:27:18,875 --> 00:27:19,875 you know what I mean? 399 00:27:19,959 --> 00:27:22,375 Is that a shop we rehearsed at? 400 00:27:22,458 --> 00:27:24,417 It was a show we rehearsed in, yeah. 401 00:27:24,500 --> 00:27:26,375 She was a good girl but she was firm. 402 00:27:26,458 --> 00:27:29,667 - She was very firm. - Oh, extremely. 403 00:27:53,375 --> 00:27:56,250 We had left by bus 404 00:27:56,333 --> 00:27:58,709 so Taaz saw us off and we went on Thursday evening. 405 00:27:58,792 --> 00:28:05,250 And Teddy had rode with us that time. 406 00:28:05,333 --> 00:28:07,834 Was strange that he was on the bus with us. 407 00:28:07,917 --> 00:28:12,792 And soon as he got into town, he went to make a phone call, 408 00:28:12,875 --> 00:28:17,041 and he was informed that Taaz Lang had been shot. 409 00:28:17,125 --> 00:28:19,834 Killed, murdered. 410 00:28:19,917 --> 00:28:22,625 Henry Evans, Teddy's road manager, 411 00:28:22,709 --> 00:28:25,208 called Teddy and said that Taaz was dead. 412 00:28:25,291 --> 00:28:29,125 And I was like... the look that I got from both of them, 413 00:28:29,208 --> 00:28:33,959 I was like, "This is not right." 414 00:28:34,041 --> 00:28:38,083 It's uh... filled with some kind of regret. 415 00:28:38,166 --> 00:28:41,291 I'm looking at somebody that's full of relieved, like... 416 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,667 The hits come faster 417 00:28:44,750 --> 00:28:48,125 on the "Sonny Hopson Show!" 418 00:29:19,375 --> 00:29:20,709 I said OK. 419 00:29:28,959 --> 00:29:31,208 She had been shot. She was killed. 420 00:29:48,458 --> 00:29:52,500 There was a lot of thug life happening, 421 00:29:52,583 --> 00:29:55,417 you know, in the record industry at that time. 422 00:30:00,083 --> 00:30:02,458 He intimidated me, you know. 423 00:30:02,542 --> 00:30:04,583 Sometimes I would be scared, 424 00:30:04,667 --> 00:30:06,709 excuse the term, shitless, in the studio. 425 00:30:10,625 --> 00:30:13,875 Where you have money, you have mobsters usually. 426 00:30:13,959 --> 00:30:16,917 You knew you had to be a part of things 427 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,625 because you're doing a show but you didn't wanna get 428 00:30:20,709 --> 00:30:22,667 9too friendly with anybody like that. 429 00:30:26,250 --> 00:30:28,250 Taaz started making threats. 430 00:30:28,333 --> 00:30:29,750 She could ruin his career. 431 00:30:29,834 --> 00:30:32,375 That's a big threat for an entertainer. 432 00:30:32,458 --> 00:30:35,291 "I can ruin your career, I can change your whole life." 433 00:30:54,709 --> 00:30:56,291 Who killed Taaz? 434 00:31:02,041 --> 00:31:04,959 It was the Black Mafia, just I don't know who. 435 00:31:05,041 --> 00:31:09,125 Just don't know who. Never found out who did it. 436 00:31:09,208 --> 00:31:12,959 Their main business was drugs and the business was violent. 437 00:31:13,041 --> 00:31:16,375 You can't let anybody steal from you. 438 00:31:16,458 --> 00:31:18,500 If you do, they had to pay a price, 439 00:31:18,583 --> 00:31:21,542 either break their legs or take their life. 440 00:31:21,625 --> 00:31:25,417 - The story never came out. - Never came out. 441 00:31:25,500 --> 00:31:28,041 It's one of those unsolved mysteries. 442 00:31:28,083 --> 00:31:30,709 Like it's been said those who say don't know 443 00:31:30,792 --> 00:31:33,750 and those who know don't say. 444 00:31:33,834 --> 00:31:36,875 One of those kinda deals. 445 00:31:36,959 --> 00:31:39,834 Didn't surprise me about why they would kill her 446 00:31:39,917 --> 00:31:45,125 because she had total control over Teddy Pendergrass 447 00:31:45,208 --> 00:31:48,792 and I had heard the rumors that she had too much. 448 00:31:52,917 --> 00:31:58,667 ♪ This one's for you ♪ 449 00:31:58,750 --> 00:32:00,583 I was blessed to play at her funeral, 450 00:32:00,667 --> 00:32:04,125 and Cecil Du Valle played organ. 451 00:32:04,208 --> 00:32:08,417 I played piano and Teddy sang "This One's For You." 452 00:32:08,500 --> 00:32:12,083 And you could tell the emotions 453 00:32:12,166 --> 00:32:15,959 that Teddy put into that song for Taaz. 454 00:32:16,041 --> 00:32:19,500 Wow, it was very sad playing that song. 455 00:32:19,583 --> 00:32:23,417 ♪ That I'm the one who cries ♪ 456 00:32:23,500 --> 00:32:26,125 ♪ And I ♪ 457 00:32:26,208 --> 00:32:30,083 Jesse Jackson preached the eulogy. 458 00:32:30,166 --> 00:32:32,125 ♪ And I'll fight so hard ♪ 459 00:32:32,208 --> 00:32:35,166 ♪ To hide my tears 'cause... ♪ 460 00:33:11,583 --> 00:33:16,667 ♪ This one is for you ♪ 461 00:33:37,041 --> 00:33:40,500 I was fairly successful as a young manager 462 00:33:40,583 --> 00:33:42,625 who got a reputation of being different, 463 00:33:42,709 --> 00:33:45,291 and Alice was one of the artists I managed 464 00:33:45,375 --> 00:33:46,333 so I got on a plane, I went to Philadelphia 465 00:33:46,417 --> 00:33:48,667 to see Teddy Pendergrass. 466 00:33:48,750 --> 00:33:52,041 I didn't realize till I got to the show 467 00:33:52,125 --> 00:33:52,959 that it was the lead singer 468 00:33:53,041 --> 00:33:55,709 of Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes, 469 00:33:55,792 --> 00:33:57,959 who happened to be one of my favorite groups in the world. 470 00:33:58,041 --> 00:34:03,125 Would you do me a very big favor, please? 471 00:34:03,208 --> 00:34:06,583 Give a round of applause to the Teddy Bear Dancers! 472 00:34:15,125 --> 00:34:16,250 But I hated the show. 473 00:34:16,333 --> 00:34:20,208 Dancers. He was dressed in a cape. I didn't like it at all. 474 00:34:20,291 --> 00:34:25,500 But I go backstage, all the Jewish managers in the business 475 00:34:25,583 --> 00:34:26,625 are at the backstage door. 476 00:34:26,709 --> 00:34:29,166 I didn't wait. I just left. 477 00:34:46,917 --> 00:34:49,625 So I went back down to Philadelphia. 478 00:34:49,709 --> 00:34:51,083 He lived in a penthouse. 479 00:34:51,166 --> 00:34:55,250 This gorgeous lady in lingerie opened the doors, 480 00:34:55,333 --> 00:34:56,542 like a set of a movie. 481 00:34:56,625 --> 00:34:59,083 And I come in and then Teddy walks in the room. 482 00:34:59,166 --> 00:35:03,667 And in person, Teddy is overwhelmingly handsome. 483 00:35:04,250 --> 00:35:07,583 Overwhelmingly sexual. 484 00:35:07,667 --> 00:35:11,375 Overwhelmingly magnetic and remarkable. 485 00:35:11,458 --> 00:35:12,375 I had no idea what to say. 486 00:35:12,458 --> 00:35:14,792 So I came up with the most outrageous thing 487 00:35:14,875 --> 00:35:16,250 I could possibly think of. 488 00:35:16,333 --> 00:35:18,792 "You have no way to tell 489 00:35:18,875 --> 00:35:22,750 which one of us Jews is telling you the truth. 490 00:35:22,834 --> 00:35:26,000 It's like a foreign lang... And the guys you had there? 491 00:35:26,083 --> 00:35:29,333 They're all the best at lying. And I happen to be one of them. 492 00:35:29,417 --> 00:35:32,959 The one thing you probably know how to do is get high. 493 00:35:33,041 --> 00:35:34,458 And I know how to do that too. 494 00:35:34,542 --> 00:35:37,125 You probably get higher than you should. 495 00:35:37,208 --> 00:35:39,667 There'll be times when you have money in your pocket 496 00:35:39,750 --> 00:35:41,875 and someone may take it from you. 497 00:35:41,959 --> 00:35:46,041 I get as high as you but I keep it together, 498 00:35:46,125 --> 00:35:47,917 and I make sure I have the cash so when you wake up..." 499 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,250 And he just looked at me like, "What?" 500 00:35:51,333 --> 00:35:54,166 I said, "Meet me somewhere, bring your best drugs, 501 00:35:54,250 --> 00:35:56,083 your best women, whatever you want, 502 00:35:56,166 --> 00:35:58,250 and we'll see who goes down first." 503 00:35:58,333 --> 00:35:59,333 ♪ Come on and get down ♪ 504 00:35:59,417 --> 00:36:01,917 ♪ Down, down, down, down, down ♪ 505 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,125 And three days later, Teddy collapsed. 506 00:36:08,834 --> 00:36:10,875 I managed him the rest of his career. 507 00:36:15,458 --> 00:36:18,041 So we first sat down, I told him, 508 00:36:18,125 --> 00:36:20,417 "By the way, the show goes 509 00:36:20,500 --> 00:36:22,625 and you gotta get rid of the dancers." 510 00:36:22,709 --> 00:36:24,542 Where I come from, we say dance the ass off. 511 00:36:24,625 --> 00:36:27,750 We were fired! 512 00:36:27,834 --> 00:36:31,166 So that was how he met Karen. 513 00:36:31,250 --> 00:36:32,792 They told Teddy, "You don't need dancers. 514 00:36:32,875 --> 00:36:35,208 You're a star, you can do this." 515 00:36:35,291 --> 00:36:38,667 Teddy said, "Now you don't work for me, 516 00:36:38,750 --> 00:36:40,500 will you go out with me?" 517 00:36:40,583 --> 00:36:42,250 And that's how we started dating. 518 00:36:44,959 --> 00:36:46,667 We went to our first show. 519 00:36:46,750 --> 00:36:48,625 Teddy Pendergrass! 520 00:36:51,542 --> 00:36:53,709 - Thank you! 521 00:36:53,792 --> 00:36:57,000 And now the show's over I found the promoter in the bathroom. 522 00:36:57,083 --> 00:36:59,041 I said, "Hi, I'm Shep, I'm the new manager." 523 00:36:59,125 --> 00:37:01,917 He said, "We didn't bring any cash." 524 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,208 I said, "What do you mean? Do you have a check book?" 525 00:37:05,291 --> 00:37:08,709 "We'll send it to him." "You'll do what?" 526 00:37:08,792 --> 00:37:11,834 And finally got a little crazy 527 00:37:11,917 --> 00:37:13,959 and he ended up giving me his ring. 528 00:37:14,041 --> 00:37:17,000 He said, "Tell Teddy to keep the ring till he gets the check." 529 00:37:17,083 --> 00:37:19,583 I went into Teddy's dressing room 530 00:37:19,667 --> 00:37:21,667 and I said, "What the fuck is going on?" 531 00:37:21,750 --> 00:37:23,291 So, anyway, I left 532 00:37:23,375 --> 00:37:26,583 and I started talking to friends who knew that world. 533 00:37:26,667 --> 00:37:29,625 Um, and they explained to me 534 00:37:29,709 --> 00:37:32,750 that this thing that I had heard somewhere in the back of my head 535 00:37:32,834 --> 00:37:34,834 but never really thought about, 536 00:37:34,917 --> 00:37:37,625 which was the Chitlin' Circuit and it was black promoters, 537 00:37:37,709 --> 00:37:40,083 black record companies, 538 00:37:40,166 --> 00:37:44,166 getting black artists to play their venues basically for free 539 00:37:44,250 --> 00:37:47,083 'cause they thought they had to to promote their records. 540 00:37:47,166 --> 00:37:49,208 They had to work for something. 541 00:37:49,291 --> 00:37:52,875 You know, and sometimes they would work for almost nothing. 542 00:37:52,959 --> 00:37:55,625 I just didn't want to be a part of it. 543 00:37:55,709 --> 00:37:58,583 So that night I said to Teddy, you know, "Fuck 'em." 544 00:37:58,667 --> 00:38:02,709 Um... "We're going to play for white promoters. 545 00:38:02,792 --> 00:38:03,583 You're gonna get paid 546 00:38:03,667 --> 00:38:07,542 and let 'em go abuse somebody else." 547 00:38:07,625 --> 00:38:10,417 And he said, "Listen, I didn't tell you this before." 548 00:38:10,500 --> 00:38:14,083 "What's that?" He said, "My last manager was shot to death." 549 00:38:14,166 --> 00:38:19,417 Uh... So the table soon turned at that moment 550 00:38:19,500 --> 00:38:22,125 where I had to really think, and I said, "Fuck 'em. 551 00:38:22,208 --> 00:38:23,250 You're in, I'm in." 552 00:38:23,333 --> 00:38:26,041 He said, "I'll take the ride with you. Let's do it." 553 00:38:26,959 --> 00:38:30,667 Can we have a warm welcome 554 00:38:30,750 --> 00:38:31,542 for Mr. Teddy Pendergrass! 555 00:38:35,875 --> 00:38:37,583 The first show we did was at the Roxy in LA. 556 00:38:37,667 --> 00:38:39,834 White promoters. 557 00:38:39,917 --> 00:38:42,834 We got death threats. FBI protected us. 558 00:38:42,917 --> 00:38:45,875 We got security from them. 559 00:38:45,959 --> 00:38:47,792 But we got through it and sort of opened the floodgates 560 00:38:47,875 --> 00:38:51,417 and at least at the live level, 561 00:38:51,500 --> 00:38:54,709 the concept of Chitlin' Circuit was gotten rid of. 562 00:38:54,792 --> 00:38:56,875 For me that's the most important thing 563 00:38:56,959 --> 00:38:58,750 to get out about Teddy. 564 00:38:58,834 --> 00:39:01,208 He risked his life to make it easier 565 00:39:01,250 --> 00:39:06,375 for Afro American artists after him. And that's big. 566 00:39:07,625 --> 00:39:08,875 I'll tell you a secret. 567 00:39:08,959 --> 00:39:12,875 No offense to our white brothers and sisters but the hotel said, 568 00:39:12,959 --> 00:39:16,458 "I've never seen so many niggers in my life!" 569 00:39:18,750 --> 00:39:19,667 But I'm glad we all came down. 570 00:39:19,750 --> 00:39:21,500 It's nice to see that we can all sit together. 571 00:39:21,583 --> 00:39:26,667 Some of you in the front and some of us in the front there. 572 00:39:26,750 --> 00:39:29,583 We don't ride the back of the bus no more. 573 00:39:31,417 --> 00:39:34,208 We went to California to see them perform. 574 00:39:34,291 --> 00:39:36,667 - What was the place? - Roxy. 575 00:39:36,750 --> 00:39:38,250 Roxy. Yeah. 576 00:39:38,333 --> 00:39:41,792 - We knew it then, we said, wow. - Yeah. 577 00:39:41,875 --> 00:39:44,166 This was not the usual. 578 00:39:44,250 --> 00:39:48,792 Mm-hm. You know what was amazing too, Gamble? 579 00:39:48,875 --> 00:39:50,875 Teddy didn't even open his mouth yet 580 00:39:50,959 --> 00:39:53,542 and the females just went crazy. 581 00:39:55,375 --> 00:39:57,333 I thought, "Wait a second. 582 00:39:57,417 --> 00:39:59,458 Let's just do shows for women only." 583 00:40:01,375 --> 00:40:04,458 There was a full-page ad with a teddy bear 584 00:40:04,542 --> 00:40:05,667 and an invitation. 585 00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:10,208 We had a recorded message from Teddy with a phone number 586 00:40:10,291 --> 00:40:12,709 and you called it and he invited them to it. 587 00:40:12,792 --> 00:40:15,583 This is Teddy Pendergrass. Join me, won't you? 588 00:40:15,667 --> 00:40:19,291 Now that I got 'em in the hall, how do I really get 'em crazy? 589 00:40:19,375 --> 00:40:22,000 We came up with chocolate teddy bear lollipops 590 00:40:22,083 --> 00:40:23,917 that we gave out to the audience 591 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:28,375 so the girls could lick it and bite it and... 592 00:40:28,458 --> 00:40:30,750 We sold out... 593 00:40:30,834 --> 00:40:32,000 - In a second. 594 00:40:32,083 --> 00:40:35,834 There has been screaming at the Greek Theatre. 595 00:40:35,917 --> 00:40:37,917 People think they've found a new king, 596 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,041 a successor to Frank Sinatra, Elvis Presley. 597 00:40:41,125 --> 00:40:42,917 He is Teddy Pendergrass. 598 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,875 ♪ You ♪ 599 00:40:44,959 --> 00:40:47,417 ♪ You got, you got, you got what I want ♪ 600 00:40:47,500 --> 00:40:52,000 ♪ You got, you got, you got what I need ♪ 601 00:40:52,083 --> 00:40:54,917 ♪ Only you, baby, only you ♪ 602 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,750 ♪ Only you, you, you, you, you ♪ 603 00:40:57,834 --> 00:41:01,250 ♪ You ♪ 604 00:41:01,333 --> 00:41:03,792 Sensuous looking and hairy 605 00:41:03,875 --> 00:41:06,333 and, oh, just fantastic. 606 00:41:06,417 --> 00:41:08,625 I got butterflies in my stomach. 607 00:41:08,709 --> 00:41:11,750 - Something was gonna happen. - We were gonna do something. 608 00:41:11,834 --> 00:41:14,625 - Something was gonna happen. - We was coming to do it. 609 00:41:18,542 --> 00:41:20,959 Every show was jam-packed. 610 00:41:21,041 --> 00:41:24,125 And the women were just... I thought they were nuts. 611 00:41:24,208 --> 00:41:26,709 - Oh! - What appeals about him? 612 00:41:26,792 --> 00:41:31,458 His body. His body. Mm-mm-mm! 613 00:41:35,375 --> 00:41:38,125 They loved Teddy. They loved Teddy. 614 00:41:38,208 --> 00:41:40,083 They showed him any way they could. 615 00:41:40,166 --> 00:41:42,333 Rush the stage. Throw panties on the stage. 616 00:41:42,375 --> 00:41:45,208 He would meet a woman and within 11 seconds, 617 00:41:45,333 --> 00:41:47,625 he could get it to a point with her 618 00:41:47,709 --> 00:41:51,000 that if I had met her I'd have to go out a couple of times, 619 00:41:51,083 --> 00:41:54,333 I'd have to meet her parents. 620 00:41:54,417 --> 00:41:56,000 I'd have to go through all this 621 00:41:56,083 --> 00:41:59,166 just to get to the point where he was in 11 seconds. 622 00:41:59,250 --> 00:42:00,959 It wasn't even fair. 623 00:42:12,583 --> 00:42:15,250 Who's the one in the shows that's screaming and hollering? 624 00:42:15,333 --> 00:42:16,041 It's the females. 625 00:42:16,125 --> 00:42:18,375 So you gotta write for them. 626 00:42:18,458 --> 00:42:21,166 - And that's what we did. - And that's what we did. 627 00:42:21,250 --> 00:42:24,333 May I just list the first four songs on the album? 628 00:42:24,417 --> 00:42:24,834 "Come Go With Me." 629 00:42:24,917 --> 00:42:26,125 "Close the Door." 630 00:42:26,208 --> 00:42:28,208 "Turn Off the Lights." 631 00:42:28,291 --> 00:42:29,583 - "Do Me." - Yes. 632 00:42:29,667 --> 00:42:31,500 - Now... 633 00:42:32,792 --> 00:42:34,625 - Have I got it? - You got it! 634 00:42:34,709 --> 00:42:38,583 - ♪ Turn off the lights ♪ 635 00:42:39,583 --> 00:42:40,583 ♪ And light a candle ♪ 636 00:42:42,250 --> 00:42:43,625 ♪ Just like that, baby ♪ 637 00:42:45,583 --> 00:42:50,375 ♪ Tonight, I'm in a romantic mood ♪ 638 00:42:50,458 --> 00:42:51,667 ♪ Yes ♪ 639 00:42:52,750 --> 00:42:55,625 ♪ Let's take a shower ♪ 640 00:42:56,625 --> 00:42:59,125 ♪ Shower together ♪ 641 00:43:00,125 --> 00:43:02,792 ♪ I'll wash your body ♪ 642 00:43:02,875 --> 00:43:06,625 ♪ If you'll promise to wash mine ♪ 643 00:43:08,125 --> 00:43:10,792 ♪ Rub me down ♪ 644 00:43:10,875 --> 00:43:14,917 ♪ In some, in some hot oils, baby ♪ 645 00:43:15,875 --> 00:43:21,834 ♪ And I'll do the same thing to you ♪ 646 00:43:21,917 --> 00:43:24,000 Teddy was the guy that other men wanted to be like 647 00:43:24,083 --> 00:43:26,750 and women wanted. 648 00:43:26,834 --> 00:43:29,000 I just like the way he just sings it. 649 00:43:29,083 --> 00:43:30,125 He sings it good and I like the way 650 00:43:30,208 --> 00:43:32,750 he's just altogether, you know. 651 00:43:32,834 --> 00:43:35,750 This is billed as a "for women only" concert. 652 00:43:35,834 --> 00:43:38,875 That doesn't mean anything. Here's my lady right here. 653 00:43:38,959 --> 00:43:41,166 I want to see him just as bad as she does. 654 00:43:41,250 --> 00:43:43,375 The guys that did come to the show, he would say to 'em, 655 00:43:43,458 --> 00:43:46,041 "I'm not here to take your woman, 656 00:43:46,125 --> 00:43:49,208 I'm just starting them up for you." 657 00:43:49,291 --> 00:43:51,125 "I'm getting them ready for you." 658 00:43:51,208 --> 00:43:54,417 "When I get finished I'm going on the bus. They're yours!" 659 00:43:57,458 --> 00:44:00,166 ♪ Just do it to me ♪ 660 00:44:00,250 --> 00:44:01,750 ♪ I'll do it to you ♪ 661 00:44:03,208 --> 00:44:04,333 ♪ Come here, baby ♪ 662 00:44:04,417 --> 00:44:08,417 ♪ Lay your head next to mine ♪ 663 00:44:08,500 --> 00:44:10,417 ♪ Oh, oh ♪ 664 00:44:10,500 --> 00:44:12,041 ♪ Oh oh, oh oh ♪ 665 00:44:12,125 --> 00:44:15,000 ♪ Oh oh, oh oh ♪ 666 00:44:16,709 --> 00:44:17,542 Black male sexuality 667 00:44:17,625 --> 00:44:20,500 was such a threatening issue in America 668 00:44:20,583 --> 00:44:23,000 that to present something so in your face 669 00:44:23,083 --> 00:44:26,583 and so uh... 670 00:44:28,041 --> 00:44:29,875 just blatantly black 671 00:44:29,959 --> 00:44:32,375 is risky. 672 00:44:32,458 --> 00:44:36,000 ♪ See, I know what to do with it ♪ 673 00:44:36,083 --> 00:44:38,125 But if you look at Teddy's career, 674 00:44:38,208 --> 00:44:40,417 it worked like gangbusters. 675 00:44:40,500 --> 00:44:42,166 ♪ If you ever let me get it ♪ 676 00:44:42,250 --> 00:44:45,041 ♪ Give it up now ♪ 677 00:44:45,125 --> 00:44:48,500 If God forbid the album reaches the success of this one, 678 00:44:48,542 --> 00:44:52,125 I'd have to ride around in a police wagon or something. 679 00:44:52,208 --> 00:44:54,792 I don't like to do that. 680 00:44:54,875 --> 00:44:59,208 He was a charismatic, strong, emoting performer 681 00:44:59,291 --> 00:45:01,166 when he was center stage, 682 00:45:01,250 --> 00:45:03,834 and the women just went ga-ga over him. 683 00:45:03,917 --> 00:45:08,000 They went crazy for him. Black and white. Black and white. 684 00:45:08,083 --> 00:45:10,333 We'll sing whatever comes to your mind. 685 00:45:12,667 --> 00:45:14,917 Would you say that again in the microphone? 686 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,709 This lady came backstage and I walk out the door 687 00:45:17,792 --> 00:45:20,875 and she has this knife and she pulls it out of her pocket. 688 00:45:20,959 --> 00:45:24,041 She says, "If I can't have you, nobody can." 689 00:45:26,250 --> 00:45:28,709 Yeah, and she lunged at me with this... I mean... 690 00:45:28,792 --> 00:45:33,166 This was a black lady and it was a black knife. 691 00:45:33,250 --> 00:45:35,875 - That long, huh? 692 00:45:35,959 --> 00:45:39,458 I seen some things that my dog wouldn't bark at. 693 00:45:39,542 --> 00:45:41,417 We had girls pull knives, guns. 694 00:45:41,500 --> 00:45:44,250 We had girls buy maids' uniforms. 695 00:45:44,333 --> 00:45:46,709 They'd be waiting for him in the suite. 696 00:45:46,792 --> 00:45:49,542 If you love a man like that you know 697 00:45:49,625 --> 00:45:52,041 that part of the real estate is a lot of other homes. 698 00:45:52,125 --> 00:45:55,291 That he is the property owner of many residences. 699 00:45:56,166 --> 00:45:58,208 I would not go on the road. 700 00:45:58,291 --> 00:46:00,959 He would even call me and say, "I want you to come out," 701 00:46:01,041 --> 00:46:03,542 and I would not go. I'm like, "Don't send for me." 702 00:46:03,625 --> 00:46:06,792 I would not go on the road. 703 00:46:06,875 --> 00:46:09,917 I didn't want to be a part of it. 704 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:14,375 When Ted came into a room, you knew it. 705 00:46:14,458 --> 00:46:19,208 It was like a hurricane literally walked in. 706 00:46:19,291 --> 00:46:21,625 Just adorable. 707 00:46:21,709 --> 00:46:24,625 I loved the way he smelled. 708 00:46:24,709 --> 00:46:26,458 I loved the way he laughed 709 00:46:26,542 --> 00:46:31,041 and I loved the way his face would light up when he saw me. 710 00:46:33,083 --> 00:46:34,458 It felt great. 711 00:46:34,542 --> 00:46:38,542 It felt great, made me feel special. 712 00:46:42,083 --> 00:46:44,834 Teddy rode past me in a blue Rolls-Royce. 713 00:46:44,917 --> 00:46:47,291 He called me to his car 714 00:46:47,375 --> 00:46:50,083 and I got nervous, I ran from him. 715 00:46:50,166 --> 00:46:52,959 I thought he was a pimp. A pimp. 716 00:46:53,041 --> 00:46:55,625 My sister showed me an album. 717 00:46:55,709 --> 00:46:57,792 I said, "That's the man who stopped me." 718 00:46:57,875 --> 00:46:59,417 She said, "That's Teddy Pendergrass, stupid." 719 00:46:59,500 --> 00:47:01,458 I said, "I ran from him." 720 00:47:01,542 --> 00:47:03,542 So we'd both kiss the album. 721 00:47:03,625 --> 00:47:08,166 But he was very handsome, I must say that. 722 00:47:08,250 --> 00:47:10,500 There was something magical about him. 723 00:47:10,583 --> 00:47:13,333 ♪ Tried to take control of the love ♪ 724 00:47:13,417 --> 00:47:17,333 ♪ Love took control of me ♪ 725 00:47:17,417 --> 00:47:21,000 ♪ Caused me to lose all thought, all sense of time ♪ 726 00:47:21,083 --> 00:47:23,208 ♪ I had a change of mind ♪ 727 00:47:23,291 --> 00:47:27,792 ♪ But taking the bumps and the bruises and all the things ♪ 728 00:47:27,875 --> 00:47:30,542 ♪ Of a two-time loser ♪ 729 00:47:31,959 --> 00:47:34,875 ♪ Trying to hold on, faith is all gone ♪ 730 00:47:34,959 --> 00:47:37,667 ♪ Just another, just another sad song ♪ 731 00:47:37,750 --> 00:47:41,625 ♪ I think I'd better let it go ♪ 732 00:47:42,917 --> 00:47:46,625 You're a bachelor and I have some first-hand knowledge 733 00:47:46,709 --> 00:47:50,041 as to how lonely 734 00:47:50,125 --> 00:47:54,250 and miserable and boring... 735 00:47:54,333 --> 00:47:57,166 - Lonely? Lonely sometimes. 736 00:47:57,250 --> 00:48:00,458 - Boring? I don't think so! - You don't like the boring? 737 00:48:00,542 --> 00:48:01,417 Boring, I don't know. 738 00:48:01,500 --> 00:48:03,625 There were so many pieces to him. 739 00:48:03,709 --> 00:48:08,417 He was a kind, wonderful, sexy, arrogant... 740 00:48:08,500 --> 00:48:10,458 There was just a whole spectrum of people 741 00:48:10,542 --> 00:48:14,000 wrapped up in that one person. 742 00:48:14,959 --> 00:48:17,542 He talked about not knowing his father 743 00:48:17,625 --> 00:48:20,375 and that troubled him. 744 00:48:20,458 --> 00:48:22,041 And when he met his father, 745 00:48:22,125 --> 00:48:26,959 he didn't like how his father handled him with his mom. 746 00:48:27,041 --> 00:48:31,208 I promised him, before I leave this world, 747 00:48:31,291 --> 00:48:33,417 I'm gonna let you see your dad. 748 00:48:33,500 --> 00:48:36,500 I'm gonna look him up and I'm gonna find him 749 00:48:36,583 --> 00:48:39,375 and I'm gonna let you see your father, 750 00:48:39,458 --> 00:48:44,250 and I did just that, when he was 11 years old. 751 00:48:44,333 --> 00:48:48,583 And we dressed to kill that day, wow. 752 00:48:48,667 --> 00:48:53,083 And I turned to Teddy and I said, "This is your father." 753 00:48:53,166 --> 00:48:55,875 And he looked up at him and he dropped his head real quick 754 00:48:55,959 --> 00:49:00,166 and I said, "Honey, look at your father. 755 00:49:00,250 --> 00:49:05,041 Make sure when you see him again, you will know who he is." 756 00:49:06,542 --> 00:49:08,875 Me and Teddy, we went on a trolley 757 00:49:08,959 --> 00:49:11,625 and started back for home. 758 00:49:13,542 --> 00:49:15,792 The next time we saw him, 759 00:49:16,750 --> 00:49:18,542 he was in his coffin. 760 00:49:18,625 --> 00:49:22,083 ♪ I give myself away ♪ 761 00:49:22,792 --> 00:49:24,625 ♪ Oh-oh-oh-oh ♪ 762 00:49:24,709 --> 00:49:28,125 ♪ I give myself away ♪ 763 00:49:28,208 --> 00:49:31,166 ♪ So you can use me ♪ 764 00:50:11,500 --> 00:50:13,834 He always said that 765 00:50:13,917 --> 00:50:16,709 because his father wasn't in his life, 766 00:50:16,792 --> 00:50:20,625 he always wanted to be in our lives. No matter what. 767 00:50:20,709 --> 00:50:24,875 And at times he could be selfish 768 00:50:24,959 --> 00:50:29,041 or he felt like it was all him, 769 00:50:29,125 --> 00:50:31,250 that he had to always do everything. 770 00:50:31,333 --> 00:50:34,583 Whereas though that probably came from the fact that 771 00:50:34,667 --> 00:50:38,000 he didn't have anybody to lean on growing up. 772 00:50:38,083 --> 00:50:43,041 So it made him strong but it also made him feel 773 00:50:43,125 --> 00:50:44,875 like he was all he had. 774 00:50:44,959 --> 00:50:47,959 He just wanted to protect us from the world. 775 00:50:48,041 --> 00:50:50,834 I guess he lived and he saw it all 776 00:50:50,917 --> 00:50:52,917 and he just didn't want us to go through 777 00:50:52,959 --> 00:50:56,041 half of the things that he went through. 778 00:50:56,125 --> 00:50:58,291 Get funky for me one time! 779 00:51:03,291 --> 00:51:07,458 I liked him most of the time but he was a guy 780 00:51:07,542 --> 00:51:09,375 that if he made you love him, you loved him. 781 00:51:09,458 --> 00:51:11,250 If he made you mad... 782 00:51:14,291 --> 00:51:16,792 He made you mad! 783 00:51:16,875 --> 00:51:19,375 Teddy had a tremendous ego. 784 00:51:19,458 --> 00:51:20,959 He also had a tremendous talent 785 00:51:21,041 --> 00:51:24,834 and I was trying to imagine what it would have been like 786 00:51:24,917 --> 00:51:28,583 to be thrust into the limelight, 787 00:51:28,667 --> 00:51:32,041 into being a star at the pace that it happened for him. 788 00:51:32,125 --> 00:51:35,041 A complicated guy. A complicated man. 789 00:51:35,125 --> 00:51:39,667 A weird combination of ego and vulnerability at the same time. 790 00:51:39,750 --> 00:51:41,625 And I do think a lot of those characteristics 791 00:51:41,709 --> 00:51:44,083 helped him put those songs over. 792 00:51:44,166 --> 00:51:46,917 ♪ Life is a song worth singing ♪ 793 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,250 ♪ Why don't you sing it? ♪ 794 00:51:51,291 --> 00:51:53,792 ♪ Life is a song worth singing ♪ 795 00:51:53,875 --> 00:51:57,291 ♪ Why don't you sing it? ♪ 796 00:51:57,375 --> 00:52:00,667 Five platinum albums in a row! 797 00:52:00,750 --> 00:52:03,291 - That's some kind of record. - Yes, thank you. 798 00:52:03,375 --> 00:52:04,625 Platinum. 799 00:52:04,709 --> 00:52:07,125 Come on. 800 00:52:07,208 --> 00:52:11,500 Why don't you tell the audience what platinum albums are? 801 00:52:11,583 --> 00:52:14,709 - Platinum's better than gold. - One million copies were sold. 802 00:52:14,792 --> 00:52:17,125 - Gold is 500. - Gold is 500,000. 803 00:52:17,208 --> 00:52:19,583 Yes, and platinum is twice as much. 804 00:52:21,250 --> 00:52:24,000 ♪ You're a fool if you think you're helpless ♪ 805 00:52:24,083 --> 00:52:29,208 ♪ You decide just to live your mind ♪ 806 00:52:31,291 --> 00:52:35,834 My elementary school was on 315 Broad Street. 807 00:52:35,917 --> 00:52:39,917 Philly International I believe was 313. 808 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,166 So all Broad Street knew when Teddy Pendergrass 809 00:52:42,250 --> 00:52:46,458 was in proximity because the sound of shrieking women 810 00:52:46,542 --> 00:52:49,667 shouldn't be that loud at 12 p.m. in the afternoon. 811 00:52:49,750 --> 00:52:52,709 The second you start hearing the shrieks it's like... 812 00:52:52,792 --> 00:52:56,542 "Yeah, Teddy Pendergrass is over." 813 00:52:56,625 --> 00:52:58,125 It was chaos and he ate it up. 814 00:52:58,208 --> 00:53:02,375 Teddy Pendergrass was Philadelphia's king. 815 00:53:02,458 --> 00:53:03,250 Its prince. 816 00:53:03,333 --> 00:53:05,667 He was a sleek-looking guy. 817 00:53:05,750 --> 00:53:08,792 Brown brother. Nice hair. Nice features. 818 00:53:08,875 --> 00:53:10,041 And dressing sharp. 819 00:53:10,125 --> 00:53:13,250 When you ride with Teddy it was an adventure 820 00:53:13,333 --> 00:53:18,125 'cause he would have his drink here, his pistol here. 821 00:53:19,542 --> 00:53:22,709 And whatever other paraphernalia he had. 822 00:53:22,792 --> 00:53:25,542 And I'm hanging on and he'd say, 823 00:53:25,625 --> 00:53:29,291 "What's wrong, Jesse, you scared?" Goddamn right. 824 00:53:31,458 --> 00:53:35,625 The only thing I ever worried about with Ted is 825 00:53:35,709 --> 00:53:40,625 the police gave him such a hard time in Philadelphia 826 00:53:40,709 --> 00:53:42,583 that I never knew 827 00:53:42,667 --> 00:53:44,208 when something might happen. 828 00:53:46,166 --> 00:53:48,375 Whenever they saw his car, 829 00:53:48,458 --> 00:53:53,667 they were right behind us and they were following him 830 00:53:53,750 --> 00:53:56,834 and just looking for an opportunity. 831 00:54:01,792 --> 00:54:04,667 I lived in Philadelphia from '65 to '70. 832 00:54:04,750 --> 00:54:07,250 Some tough years down there for relations between the races. 833 00:54:07,291 --> 00:54:11,041 There was some tense moments in North Philadelphia. 834 00:54:11,125 --> 00:54:13,583 I got to know the neighborhood rather well. 835 00:54:13,667 --> 00:54:16,709 I've got a couple of scars that I can show you 836 00:54:16,792 --> 00:54:19,750 from some of those days. It was rough. 837 00:54:36,500 --> 00:54:39,041 Somebody dropped a dime. 838 00:54:41,792 --> 00:54:45,834 And because of the police siren, everybody ran. 839 00:54:45,917 --> 00:54:48,041 Well, then Teddy ran too. 840 00:54:57,166 --> 00:55:00,125 He was innocent, he didn't do what the police said he did. 841 00:55:00,208 --> 00:55:02,917 Somebody was robbed or something 842 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,291 and he fit the profile and he was locked up. 843 00:55:05,375 --> 00:55:08,291 When we had the hearing, Teddy told the story. 844 00:55:08,375 --> 00:55:13,375 The judge said, "But you shouldn't have run," 845 00:55:13,458 --> 00:55:16,125 so they took him to the Youth Study Center. 846 00:55:16,208 --> 00:55:19,917 He called me. "Mom, come and get me." 847 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,875 He stayed there five months, I think it was. 848 00:55:46,875 --> 00:55:49,875 ♪ Had my dream so near ♪ 849 00:55:51,333 --> 00:55:53,375 ♪ I could reach out and touch it ♪ 850 00:55:53,458 --> 00:55:54,458 ♪ I could touch it ♪ 851 00:55:54,542 --> 00:55:58,375 - ♪ And I lost it ♪ - ♪ And I lost it ♪ 852 00:55:58,458 --> 00:56:00,458 ♪ And I lost it ♪ 853 00:56:01,500 --> 00:56:04,291 The police would come by the house, 854 00:56:04,375 --> 00:56:08,208 and, of course, it escalated and next thing you know, 855 00:56:08,291 --> 00:56:12,500 they're taking him off in handcuffs. 856 00:56:13,417 --> 00:56:15,333 The police harassed him a lot. 857 00:56:15,417 --> 00:56:18,542 And Teddy didn't take any stuff from anybody 858 00:56:18,625 --> 00:56:19,792 and if he felt he was right, 859 00:56:19,875 --> 00:56:22,125 he was gonna stand up for himself. 860 00:56:22,208 --> 00:56:26,333 And here is this big black man with that Rolls-Royce. 861 00:56:26,417 --> 00:56:30,125 Millionaire. So the police felt like that's a target. 862 00:57:00,125 --> 00:57:03,625 ♪ Whoever you are, be a star ♪ 863 00:57:03,709 --> 00:57:06,500 ♪ In Celebrity Jeans ♪ 864 00:57:08,875 --> 00:57:11,125 Be free, be someone special 865 00:57:11,208 --> 00:57:14,291 with Teddy Pendergrass Celebrity Body Jeans. 866 00:57:16,041 --> 00:57:18,625 - You got them Teddy jeans? 867 00:57:18,709 --> 00:57:20,542 ♪ Whoever you are, be a star ♪ 868 00:57:20,625 --> 00:57:24,125 We were ready and we had all these elements 869 00:57:24,208 --> 00:57:27,792 and we had a clear path to stardom. 870 00:57:27,875 --> 00:57:30,959 You could just feel that he was gonna be 871 00:57:31,041 --> 00:57:33,250 what I used to call the great black hope. 872 00:57:33,333 --> 00:57:35,750 My market is very loyal to me 873 00:57:35,834 --> 00:57:38,333 and I'm very, very grateful to that 874 00:57:38,417 --> 00:57:40,166 and I would never ever leave 875 00:57:40,250 --> 00:57:44,041 but what I wanna do is expose my way of doing things 876 00:57:44,125 --> 00:57:45,709 to other marketplaces 877 00:57:45,792 --> 00:57:49,166 and give them a chance to say whether they like it or not. 878 00:57:49,250 --> 00:57:52,709 He was positioned to be really a major artist, 879 00:57:52,792 --> 00:57:55,166 crossover artist, because he had that talent, 880 00:57:55,250 --> 00:57:56,750 and he had the music behind him 881 00:57:56,834 --> 00:57:59,333 and he had the right management team. 882 00:57:59,417 --> 00:58:01,458 His job was to become, at least I felt, 883 00:58:01,542 --> 00:58:05,166 and I think he felt the same, to become the black Elvis. 884 00:58:13,166 --> 00:58:14,291 He was about to go worldwide 885 00:58:14,375 --> 00:58:17,000 and he would have been a total phenomenon. 886 00:58:17,083 --> 00:58:19,917 You know, in that range 887 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:24,458 of Prince or Michael Jackson, whatever, 888 00:58:24,542 --> 00:58:27,542 he was getting ready to take it to another level. 889 00:58:27,625 --> 00:58:28,875 I could see that coming. 890 00:58:28,959 --> 00:58:31,750 - ♪ Girl, you know ♪ - ♪ Girl, you know ♪ 891 00:58:31,834 --> 00:58:33,500 ♪ You like the taste of the wine ♪ 892 00:58:36,709 --> 00:58:38,417 - ♪ Girl, you know ♪ a- ♪ Girl, you know ♪ 893 00:58:38,500 --> 00:58:41,959 ♪ You like the taste of the wine ♪ 894 00:58:44,125 --> 00:58:49,041 Everything was waiting for him. Movies, television, everything. 895 00:58:58,417 --> 00:59:01,166 Now, my darling, wherever you are... 896 00:59:10,250 --> 00:59:12,166 Think I should say that again? 897 00:59:12,250 --> 00:59:15,041 Said my darling, wherever you are. 898 00:59:20,417 --> 00:59:25,417 Won't you please... listen to my song? 899 00:59:27,208 --> 00:59:28,709 We were on the way 900 00:59:28,792 --> 00:59:32,417 but we still didn't cross over yet. It was, it was trying to. 901 00:59:32,500 --> 00:59:34,834 We were just finding the right couple of songs. 902 00:59:41,291 --> 00:59:45,375 Teddy had asked me to do an arrangement on "Lady." 903 00:59:45,458 --> 00:59:48,667 And it made a lot of sense to do that 904 00:59:48,750 --> 00:59:52,500 because Teddy's voice would have brought in the black audience. 905 00:59:52,583 --> 00:59:54,750 But the choice of song 906 00:59:54,834 --> 00:59:57,125 would have brought in the white audience. 907 00:59:57,208 --> 00:59:59,917 And the combination of the two would have been a hit. 908 01:00:01,417 --> 01:00:05,667 - ♪ Lady ♪ 909 01:00:05,750 --> 01:00:08,417 ♪ I'm your knight in shining armor ♪ 910 01:00:09,750 --> 01:00:12,458 ♪ And I love you ♪ 911 01:00:14,083 --> 01:00:16,583 ♪ You have come into my life ♪ 912 01:00:16,667 --> 01:00:18,834 ♪ And ♪ 913 01:00:19,917 --> 01:00:23,542 ♪ Made me whole ♪ 914 01:00:30,500 --> 01:00:32,750 ♪ And for ever ♪ 915 01:00:33,458 --> 01:00:36,125 ♪ Let me wake to see you ♪ 916 01:00:36,208 --> 01:00:39,917 ♪ Each, each and every morning ♪ 917 01:00:42,375 --> 01:00:47,291 ♪ Let me hear you whisper softly ♪ 918 01:00:48,291 --> 01:00:52,875 ♪ In my ear ♪ 919 01:00:56,709 --> 01:00:59,208 ♪ In my eyes ♪ 920 01:00:59,291 --> 01:01:03,583 ♪ But in my eyes ♪ 921 01:01:03,667 --> 01:01:07,041 ♪ I see no one else but you ♪ 922 01:01:07,125 --> 01:01:10,291 ♪ There's no other ♪ 923 01:01:10,375 --> 01:01:13,709 ♪ Love like our love ♪ 924 01:01:14,583 --> 01:01:19,000 ♪ Oh yes, oh yes ♪ 925 01:01:19,083 --> 01:01:21,834 ♪ I'll always want you near me ♪ 926 01:01:22,834 --> 01:01:23,792 ♪ I've waited for you ♪ 927 01:01:25,458 --> 01:01:30,375 ♪ For so long ♪ 928 01:01:30,458 --> 01:01:32,458 ♪ Oh-oh ♪ 929 01:01:32,542 --> 01:01:35,041 ♪ Lady ♪ 930 01:01:35,125 --> 01:01:37,750 ♪ Lady ♪ 931 01:01:38,709 --> 01:01:40,458 ♪ Lady ♪ 932 01:01:41,834 --> 01:01:43,041 ♪ You see, your love ♪ 933 01:01:43,125 --> 01:01:47,792 ♪ Your love is the only love that I'll ever need ♪ 934 01:01:50,125 --> 01:01:52,375 ♪ And right here ♪ 935 01:01:53,417 --> 01:01:55,500 ♪ Right here beside me ♪ 936 01:01:56,375 --> 01:01:57,750 ♪ Oh, that's where ♪ 937 01:01:57,834 --> 01:02:04,000 ♪ That's where I want you to be for ever and ever ♪ 938 01:02:05,041 --> 01:02:06,792 ♪ 'Cause my love ♪ 939 01:02:07,375 --> 01:02:10,458 ♪ Oh, my love ♪ 940 01:02:11,667 --> 01:02:12,834 ♪ There's something I want you to know ♪ 941 01:02:12,917 --> 01:02:17,875 ♪ Something I've just got to let you know ♪ 942 01:02:17,959 --> 01:02:22,834 ♪ That you're the love of my life ♪ 943 01:02:43,333 --> 01:02:47,125 We had a little ritual that we would go to 944 01:02:47,208 --> 01:02:49,917 the basketball game to see Julius. 945 01:02:53,417 --> 01:02:57,000 Watch the game and sometimes go out afterwards. 946 01:02:57,083 --> 01:02:59,458 And I said, "Let's get out of here," 947 01:02:59,542 --> 01:03:01,792 let's stop at this little club we knew. 948 01:03:01,875 --> 01:03:06,750 While I was sitting in the lobby, I saw this person, 949 01:03:06,792 --> 01:03:10,250 and everything she had on was too revealing. 950 01:03:10,333 --> 01:03:13,291 I saw Teddy again at a club, 951 01:03:13,375 --> 01:03:15,500 the Warwick Hotel at 17th and Locust. 952 01:03:15,583 --> 01:03:17,959 He was with this girl named Yvette 953 01:03:18,041 --> 01:03:20,834 and one of Teddy's friends, Brinkley. 954 01:03:20,917 --> 01:03:23,041 And he asked me did I want a drink. 955 01:03:34,917 --> 01:03:40,208 No, I didn't feel any threat from any other woman. 956 01:03:40,291 --> 01:03:43,166 Are you kidding me? 957 01:03:43,250 --> 01:03:45,583 Teddy treated me like a princess. 958 01:03:45,667 --> 01:03:49,542 So he says, "Well, I'm gonna take one lady home 959 01:03:49,625 --> 01:03:53,959 and then take the other lady to my house." 960 01:03:58,959 --> 01:04:00,625 Um, he was driving kind of fast 961 01:04:00,709 --> 01:04:05,000 and so I said to him slow down. 962 01:04:05,083 --> 01:04:08,959 Slow down. And so he slowed down. 963 01:04:10,291 --> 01:04:13,500 He uh... got me home, walked me to the door, 964 01:04:13,583 --> 01:04:14,625 kissed me good night 965 01:04:14,709 --> 01:04:17,750 and I said, "Make sure you call me when you get home." 966 01:04:17,834 --> 01:04:21,333 I was wondering why he didn't drop me off first 967 01:04:21,417 --> 01:04:25,333 'cause I only lived about three, four blocks from the club. 968 01:04:25,417 --> 01:04:27,583 But I just went along for the ride. 969 01:04:30,625 --> 01:04:31,792 So on our way back, 970 01:04:31,875 --> 01:04:35,834 the car started going really, really fast. 971 01:05:31,333 --> 01:05:33,375 Everything got completely quiet. 972 01:05:33,458 --> 01:05:35,709 I didn't know how bad the car was damaged. 973 01:05:35,792 --> 01:05:39,000 All I know we both were alive and I was thanking God for that. 974 01:05:39,083 --> 01:05:42,875 And out of nowhere, a man came up to the car. 975 01:05:58,875 --> 01:06:01,000 Approximately 1:30 in the morning 976 01:06:01,083 --> 01:06:05,417 Engine 19, Ladder 8, Battalion 9 and Medic 16 977 01:06:05,500 --> 01:06:07,125 were dispatched to Lincoln Drive. 978 01:06:09,083 --> 01:06:12,959 Lincoln Drive is a notorious section of highway 979 01:06:13,041 --> 01:06:14,834 where there's a lot of accidents. 980 01:06:14,917 --> 01:06:18,792 Slick conditions, a lot of switchbacks. 981 01:06:18,875 --> 01:06:20,083 Many people drive too quickly 982 01:06:20,166 --> 01:06:24,125 so there's frequently accidents; sometimes very bad accidents. 983 01:06:24,208 --> 01:06:27,834 We arrive on scene and we have a Rolls-Royce 984 01:06:27,917 --> 01:06:29,709 into a couple of trees. 985 01:06:58,333 --> 01:07:01,417 The passenger, Tenika Watson, 986 01:07:01,500 --> 01:07:02,500 seemed uninjured. 987 01:07:02,583 --> 01:07:06,834 The driver had been thrown into the back seat. 988 01:07:12,250 --> 01:07:15,083 We put him on a spine board 989 01:07:15,166 --> 01:07:17,083 and removed him from the car. 990 01:07:18,458 --> 01:07:20,208 They got us out of it 991 01:07:20,291 --> 01:07:22,875 and I was thinking maybe I can get away from here 992 01:07:22,959 --> 01:07:27,625 but when I got out Teddy whispered, he said, 993 01:07:27,709 --> 01:07:30,083 "Don't leave me, don't let them hurt me." 994 01:07:30,166 --> 01:07:32,583 And I was like, "Who is they?" 995 01:07:32,667 --> 01:07:34,792 It was like a fear came over him. 996 01:07:34,875 --> 01:07:36,291 I don't know why he said it, 997 01:07:36,375 --> 01:07:39,291 but it kind of made me nervous too, like, 998 01:07:39,375 --> 01:07:41,000 "Who wants to hurt you?" 999 01:08:04,625 --> 01:08:07,458 Everybody knew who he was. 1000 01:08:07,542 --> 01:08:12,500 I intubated him myself to make sure that his airway 1001 01:08:12,583 --> 01:08:14,208 was established safely 1002 01:08:14,291 --> 01:08:18,125 without damaging that wonderful voice. 1003 01:08:18,959 --> 01:08:21,291 My mother called me. 1004 01:08:21,375 --> 01:08:22,959 What they had heard on the news 1005 01:08:23,041 --> 01:08:24,750 was that there was a girl in the car with Ted 1006 01:08:24,834 --> 01:08:27,792 and everybody thought it was me. 1007 01:08:27,875 --> 01:08:31,000 You know, you're just like in shock for a moment 1008 01:08:31,083 --> 01:08:35,083 and, you know, you just have to sit still, 1009 01:08:35,166 --> 01:08:36,834 say, "What do I do?" 1010 01:08:39,667 --> 01:08:41,458 I get out of the cab 1011 01:08:41,542 --> 01:08:43,250 and go through the hospital revolving door 1012 01:08:43,333 --> 01:08:47,041 and the doctors are already doing a press conference. 1013 01:08:47,125 --> 01:08:49,917 We don't know the answer because only time will tell us. 1014 01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,041 Only time will tell the neurosurgeon. 1015 01:08:52,125 --> 01:08:54,959 He has some limitation of movement in his arms. 1016 01:08:55,041 --> 01:08:58,125 He is able to move parts of his arms. 1017 01:08:58,208 --> 01:09:01,667 We can't define it any more than that because it's uh... 1018 01:09:01,750 --> 01:09:05,375 - It's not stable at the moment. - Not his hands? 1019 01:09:05,458 --> 01:09:06,417 He broke his neck. 1020 01:09:06,500 --> 01:09:10,834 If you think of the spinal column as a tube, 1021 01:09:10,959 --> 01:09:14,250 if you tear it and then shift it, 1022 01:09:14,333 --> 01:09:17,792 whatever's running through the middle gets squished. 1023 01:09:17,834 --> 01:09:21,709 Once a certain level of damage 1024 01:09:21,792 --> 01:09:26,166 has happened to the spine and it's unrecoverable... 1025 01:09:27,667 --> 01:09:30,709 I got off the elevator and Karen and the doctor 1026 01:09:30,792 --> 01:09:33,375 and Mrs. Pendergrass were there. 1027 01:09:33,458 --> 01:09:37,083 And, um, they took me in a room, they said, "Listen, um, 1028 01:09:37,166 --> 01:09:40,792 Teddy's not gonna walk again. 1029 01:09:40,875 --> 01:09:44,917 We're going in the room now to tell him." And I... Whoa. 1030 01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,125 I went in. Teddy was lying on a table. 1031 01:09:49,208 --> 01:09:50,750 Strapped down. 1032 01:09:50,834 --> 01:09:53,834 He was crying a lot, he was very upset. 1033 01:09:53,917 --> 01:09:57,583 And I almost fainted there in the room. I mean, I had to... 1034 01:09:57,667 --> 01:10:00,542 I had to sit down on the floor because it just... 1035 01:10:00,625 --> 01:10:02,208 You don't think it will ever happen 1036 01:10:02,291 --> 01:10:05,417 until reality sets in and just seeing him that way, 1037 01:10:05,500 --> 01:10:07,125 I was pretty woozy. 1038 01:10:07,208 --> 01:10:11,166 His eyes were closed and it was the weirdest thing. 1039 01:10:11,250 --> 01:10:13,417 He heard us come in and sort of opened his eyes and... 1040 01:10:13,500 --> 01:10:18,250 The doctor said, "Can you hear us? If you can, blink once." 1041 01:10:18,333 --> 01:10:19,417 And he blinked. 1042 01:10:19,500 --> 01:10:24,458 And, um, we told him that he would never walk again, 1043 01:10:24,542 --> 01:10:26,959 and that he had to start his rehabilitation, 1044 01:10:27,041 --> 01:10:28,291 but he was gonna live, 1045 01:10:28,375 --> 01:10:31,083 and we were gonna get through this with him. 1046 01:10:31,959 --> 01:10:33,917 And that was rough. 1047 01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:37,500 It was the toughest moment I've... 1048 01:10:39,166 --> 01:10:42,875 Yeah. That was tough. 1049 01:10:49,250 --> 01:10:54,291 I pulled myself together and you couldn't move him 1050 01:10:54,375 --> 01:10:58,667 because he was pinned in and you couldn't get... 1051 01:10:58,750 --> 01:11:00,166 So the back of his head, 1052 01:11:00,250 --> 01:11:04,291 I just ran my finger under his hair like that. 1053 01:11:06,041 --> 01:11:09,333 And that was satisfaction to him. 1054 01:11:13,250 --> 01:11:16,250 We were doing a show in Charlotte 1055 01:11:16,333 --> 01:11:19,083 and I went to bed early so I could get up. 1056 01:11:19,166 --> 01:11:21,208 We had to be at the airport six o'clock in the morning 1057 01:11:21,291 --> 01:11:25,000 and four o'clock in the morning the phone rang. 1058 01:11:25,083 --> 01:11:27,500 They said, "Turn on the radio, turn on the radio." 1059 01:11:27,583 --> 01:11:29,458 So I turned on the radio 1060 01:11:29,542 --> 01:11:31,792 and then that's how we heard what had happened. 1061 01:11:31,875 --> 01:11:36,417 They said Teddy Pendergrass was in a very bad accident, 1062 01:11:36,500 --> 01:11:39,834 was paralyzed from the waist down. 1063 01:11:39,917 --> 01:11:43,709 It was like, you got to be joking, you know. 1064 01:11:43,792 --> 01:11:47,041 - I couldn't believe it. - Unbelievable. 1065 01:11:47,125 --> 01:11:50,959 You know, it's like, so I um... 1066 01:11:55,667 --> 01:11:59,667 I called Henry and said, "Teddy was in a car accident?" 1067 01:11:59,750 --> 01:12:02,041 He said, "Yeah, we're gonna leave later 1068 01:12:02,125 --> 01:12:03,333 because I don't know how..." 1069 01:12:03,417 --> 01:12:04,750 None of us knew it was that bad. 1070 01:12:04,834 --> 01:12:06,834 - That serious. - None of us knew it. 1071 01:12:06,917 --> 01:12:11,208 And he called back later and said we're not going anywhere. 1072 01:12:11,250 --> 01:12:14,041 - And I was like, wow. - We never went anywhere again. 1073 01:12:14,125 --> 01:12:18,959 ♪ But those days are gone ♪ 1074 01:12:19,041 --> 01:12:22,542 ♪ Don't leave me ♪ 1075 01:12:22,625 --> 01:12:27,709 ♪ Here alone ♪ 1076 01:12:29,375 --> 01:12:34,875 ♪ So I'm standing here, standing here ♪ 1077 01:12:35,875 --> 01:12:40,667 ♪ All by myself ♪ 1078 01:12:41,333 --> 01:12:44,333 ♪ Don't wanna be ♪ 1079 01:12:45,667 --> 01:12:50,291 ♪ All by myself anymore ♪ 1080 01:12:51,542 --> 01:12:54,166 He had everything he wanted. 1081 01:12:54,250 --> 01:12:57,208 He thought he was indestructible. 1082 01:12:57,291 --> 01:13:01,458 But then most young men of that age, 1083 01:13:01,542 --> 01:13:04,750 you have a certain amount of fame and money, 1084 01:13:04,834 --> 01:13:06,375 you think nothing can happen to you. 1085 01:13:07,583 --> 01:13:11,125 And what happened to him was the cruelest of all 1086 01:13:11,208 --> 01:13:13,709 because he became a prisoner in his own self. 1087 01:13:13,792 --> 01:13:17,917 ♪ All by ♪ 1088 01:13:23,041 --> 01:13:27,417 ♪ My ♪ 1089 01:13:28,792 --> 01:13:34,000 ♪ Self ♪ 1090 01:13:38,125 --> 01:13:43,375 ♪ If you don't know me by now ♪ 1091 01:13:45,792 --> 01:13:47,500 Thank you. 1092 01:13:47,583 --> 01:13:52,959 ♪ You will never, never, never know me ♪ 1093 01:13:56,000 --> 01:14:00,500 I was 11 years old, sixth grade, 1094 01:14:00,583 --> 01:14:06,166 and watching my teacher sob and cry. 1095 01:14:06,250 --> 01:14:11,125 I never saw anyone, especially black people, this devastated. 1096 01:14:12,250 --> 01:14:14,458 They weren't going to school. 1097 01:14:14,542 --> 01:14:17,083 Oh, God, we were next door to Philly International. 1098 01:14:17,208 --> 01:14:19,458 Everybody was devastated. 1099 01:14:22,875 --> 01:14:25,750 - We were in Jamaica. - We were in Jamaica. 1100 01:14:25,834 --> 01:14:28,917 Writing songs for him for his next album. 1101 01:14:30,583 --> 01:14:32,875 Yeah. That was a sad day. 1102 01:14:32,959 --> 01:14:35,083 All day, the talk on the street was about Teddy. 1103 01:14:35,166 --> 01:14:37,417 I really liked him. 1104 01:14:37,500 --> 01:14:40,500 I thought he was really a good singer and a good man. 1105 01:14:40,583 --> 01:14:41,750 Really sorry. 1106 01:14:41,834 --> 01:14:43,166 I just hope he sings again, that's all. 1107 01:14:43,250 --> 01:14:45,917 I'm praying for him a lot 1108 01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:49,417 and I hope for a speedy recovery because he is my man. 1109 01:14:49,500 --> 01:14:50,709 Steady Teddy. 1110 01:14:55,500 --> 01:14:58,458 He had been drinking 1111 01:14:58,542 --> 01:15:01,250 but he wasn't intoxicated. No. 1112 01:15:01,333 --> 01:15:04,750 I would not have allowed him to drive me 1113 01:15:04,834 --> 01:15:06,792 in his car if he had been drunk. 1114 01:15:06,875 --> 01:15:09,625 They didn't find anything in his system. 1115 01:15:09,709 --> 01:15:13,083 They didn't say he had drugs in him. I didn't. 1116 01:15:13,166 --> 01:15:17,542 He had had trouble with that car ever since he bought it. 1117 01:15:17,625 --> 01:15:18,959 It had no brakes. 1118 01:15:19,041 --> 01:15:22,250 A lot of people believed that this accident 1119 01:15:22,333 --> 01:15:25,458 was a setup to get rid of him. 1120 01:15:25,542 --> 01:15:29,083 I think the car was sabotaged, I think it was. 1121 01:15:29,166 --> 01:15:31,083 Because of other cars that he had. 1122 01:15:31,166 --> 01:15:32,583 I mean, every car that you have, 1123 01:15:32,667 --> 01:15:35,792 something's gonna happen to the car? Really? 1124 01:15:35,875 --> 01:15:37,792 He pulled his Corvette out one day 1125 01:15:37,875 --> 01:15:39,500 and the brake lines were cut. 1126 01:15:39,583 --> 01:15:44,291 He had a Mercedes, 450 SL, brake lines were cut. 1127 01:15:44,375 --> 01:15:47,041 A friend said it was an organization 1128 01:15:47,125 --> 01:15:49,667 that wanted to kidnap him for ransom 1129 01:15:49,750 --> 01:15:52,542 so all types of things were happening. 1130 01:15:52,625 --> 01:15:55,792 He didn't know who his friends were or who his enemies were. 1131 01:15:55,875 --> 01:16:00,125 I don't put anything past show business during that time 1132 01:16:00,208 --> 01:16:03,125 in Philadelphia. 1133 01:16:03,208 --> 01:16:06,625 ♪ He's my man ♪ 1134 01:16:06,709 --> 01:16:07,625 He lived a big life 1135 01:16:07,709 --> 01:16:10,500 and he had really used up most of his funds. 1136 01:16:10,583 --> 01:16:13,333 - More? - ♪ Girls, let me turn you on ♪ 1137 01:16:13,417 --> 01:16:15,208 ♪ To the big Bull buzz ♪ 1138 01:16:15,291 --> 01:16:16,500 ♪ One sip will make you 1139 01:16:16,583 --> 01:16:19,250 ♪ It's got more taste than beer ♪ 1140 01:16:19,333 --> 01:16:23,250 We had a very large beer company that sponsored Teddy. 1141 01:16:23,333 --> 01:16:24,291 I told them what happened to Teddy 1142 01:16:24,375 --> 01:16:26,583 and we were gonna have to cancel 1143 01:16:26,667 --> 01:16:30,250 and would they put together an endowment for the kids, 1144 01:16:30,333 --> 01:16:33,000 and they said, "Yes, we'll definitely do something. 1145 01:16:33,083 --> 01:16:35,500 We'll do some kind of a fund, 1146 01:16:35,583 --> 01:16:37,333 some kind of charitable donation." 1147 01:16:37,417 --> 01:16:38,750 Then I woke up in the morning 1148 01:16:38,834 --> 01:16:42,709 and the newspaper said the girl in the car was a guy. 1149 01:16:42,792 --> 01:16:46,875 And I knew I'd never hear from the beer company again! 1150 01:16:46,959 --> 01:16:48,834 There was a police lady 1151 01:16:48,917 --> 01:16:52,375 and she said that she had arrested me before. 1152 01:16:52,458 --> 01:16:56,417 And she knew my past, that's how I got into the paper. 1153 01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:06,667 Everybody believed it was a woman. 1154 01:17:06,750 --> 01:17:08,542 She was striking. 1155 01:17:08,625 --> 01:17:12,333 I wouldn't dispute how impressive she looked. 1156 01:17:12,417 --> 01:17:14,834 And my assumption was, knowing Teddy, 1157 01:17:14,917 --> 01:17:17,583 that he was driving with her, 1158 01:17:17,667 --> 01:17:19,500 put his hand down between her legs, 1159 01:17:19,583 --> 01:17:22,959 felt the penis and had the accident. 1160 01:17:23,041 --> 01:17:26,750 I started hormones when I came to Philadelphia. 1161 01:17:26,834 --> 01:17:31,041 And five years after I started hormones I had my surgery. 1162 01:17:31,125 --> 01:17:33,750 That was 1977. I'm a woman. 1163 01:17:33,834 --> 01:17:39,417 I've been a woman, completely a woman, for 40 years now. 1164 01:17:39,500 --> 01:17:42,542 So my whole theory went right out the window. 1165 01:17:42,625 --> 01:17:46,000 ♪ I used to have lots of money ♪ 1166 01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:49,083 ♪ I had 'em in big old stacks ♪ 1167 01:17:49,166 --> 01:17:52,083 We needed to generate money for his family. 1168 01:17:52,166 --> 01:17:53,166 I sat through hundreds of tapes 1169 01:17:53,250 --> 01:17:56,041 and we found tapes that hadn't been released. 1170 01:17:56,125 --> 01:17:58,667 Unfortunately, in every case, um... 1171 01:17:58,750 --> 01:18:03,291 his partners in those records who had the power 1172 01:18:03,375 --> 01:18:05,583 chose not to pay him. 1173 01:18:05,667 --> 01:18:09,333 ♪ All the things I wanted ♪ 1174 01:18:09,417 --> 01:18:11,959 ♪ I don't have anymore ♪ 1175 01:18:12,041 --> 01:18:14,500 When one person is your company 1176 01:18:14,583 --> 01:18:16,542 and he pays everybody 1177 01:18:16,625 --> 01:18:20,125 and then something happens to him, everything goes down. 1178 01:18:20,166 --> 01:18:21,750 Shep stayed with him. 1179 01:18:21,834 --> 01:18:24,500 You know, the record labels, they left, you know. 1180 01:18:24,583 --> 01:18:25,542 Everyone else left. 1181 01:18:25,625 --> 01:18:28,250 The people that really cared about him stayed. 1182 01:18:28,333 --> 01:18:30,000 And that was few. 1183 01:18:32,500 --> 01:18:35,959 ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 1184 01:18:42,709 --> 01:18:46,709 ♪ Happy birthday, dear Teddy ♪ 1185 01:18:48,375 --> 01:18:50,750 I'm primarily an opera singer. 1186 01:18:50,834 --> 01:18:54,542 ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪ 1187 01:18:54,625 --> 01:18:58,917 Teddy had a big problem but it could have been worse. 1188 01:19:00,166 --> 01:19:02,667 If it had been a little higher, 1189 01:19:02,750 --> 01:19:04,875 he would not have been able to breathe 1190 01:19:04,959 --> 01:19:08,834 and would have been tracheotomy and respirator dependent. 1191 01:20:00,750 --> 01:20:05,250 He would just be quiet and keep to himself, you know? 1192 01:20:05,333 --> 01:20:09,208 He had a sad look on his face and people had to feed him 1193 01:20:10,333 --> 01:20:14,875 and he was just sitting there. 1194 01:20:14,959 --> 01:20:18,917 He was paralyzed forever and I didn't want him to be like that. 1195 01:20:19,834 --> 01:20:23,208 I wanted it to be like the old times. 1196 01:20:23,291 --> 01:20:27,208 He said if I want to commit suicide, I couldn't. 1197 01:20:27,291 --> 01:20:29,375 And I realized he was correct. 1198 01:20:29,458 --> 01:20:32,417 I didn't think about it until after. He couldn't. 1199 01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:35,959 He couldn't. 1200 01:20:37,834 --> 01:20:39,709 He was very depressed. 1201 01:20:39,792 --> 01:20:42,500 He had sleeping pills to take to sleep at night, 1202 01:20:42,583 --> 01:20:44,500 and he would ask me to give him 1203 01:20:44,583 --> 01:20:47,125 all the sleeping pills and I was like, "No. No way." 1204 01:20:47,208 --> 01:20:49,166 You know, we cried, and we boo-hooed, 1205 01:20:49,250 --> 01:20:52,792 and I tried to read the Bible and make sense of all this, 1206 01:20:52,875 --> 01:20:55,834 and he kept saying, "I will never be able to walk again." 1207 01:20:55,917 --> 01:20:59,291 And I said, "But you're alive." 1208 01:20:59,375 --> 01:21:03,208 ♪ Is this my beginning? ♪ 1209 01:21:03,291 --> 01:21:05,625 ♪ Or is this the end? ♪ 1210 01:21:05,709 --> 01:21:09,542 ♪ When will I see you again? ♪ 1211 01:21:09,625 --> 01:21:13,000 ♪ When will I see you again? ♪ 1212 01:21:13,083 --> 01:21:14,959 ♪ Sweet, sweet love ♪ 1213 01:21:15,041 --> 01:21:17,291 ♪ When will I see you again? ♪ 1214 01:21:17,375 --> 01:21:20,291 Dr. Gottlieb, God thank you. 1215 01:21:20,375 --> 01:21:23,917 Dr. Gottlieb got in touch with him 1216 01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:28,250 and told him, "No, Teddy, don't give up." 1217 01:21:31,125 --> 01:21:34,625 I have a visceral reaction 1218 01:21:34,709 --> 01:21:36,875 when I hear things like that. 1219 01:21:38,333 --> 01:21:40,375 My heart breaks 1220 01:21:40,458 --> 01:21:44,125 and it did for him because I knew 1221 01:21:44,208 --> 01:21:48,500 where he came from and where he was going to end up. 1222 01:21:49,083 --> 01:21:51,375 To be honest with you, 1223 01:21:51,500 --> 01:21:54,917 it was just a few years after my accident. 1224 01:21:57,750 --> 01:22:00,709 I knew what he was going through. 1225 01:22:00,792 --> 01:22:05,834 But I was also in the depths of my depression, 1226 01:22:07,792 --> 01:22:12,875 and at the deepest level, 1227 01:22:12,959 --> 01:22:18,083 saving his life felt like saving my own. 1228 01:22:19,333 --> 01:22:23,667 And an average therapist 1229 01:22:23,750 --> 01:22:24,542 who had these feelings 1230 01:22:24,625 --> 01:22:28,208 would not treat that patient. 1231 01:22:28,291 --> 01:22:30,291 Probably shouldn't have. 1232 01:22:31,792 --> 01:22:32,917 But this was different. 1233 01:22:35,250 --> 01:22:40,208 There were no quadriplegic therapists. 1234 01:22:40,291 --> 01:22:42,959 I was the only one around. 1235 01:22:45,125 --> 01:22:47,041 He finally decided 1236 01:22:47,125 --> 01:22:50,917 that he was gonna to take his life. 1237 01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:54,250 But I said to him, "Teddy," I said, 1238 01:22:54,333 --> 01:22:55,583 "if you're going to do this, 1239 01:22:55,667 --> 01:23:00,041 you have a moral obligation 1240 01:23:00,125 --> 01:23:03,959 to talk with your mother, Karen and your son 1241 01:23:04,041 --> 01:23:06,750 about this decision." 1242 01:23:06,834 --> 01:23:10,083 And he agreed. They all came in. 1243 01:23:10,166 --> 01:23:12,417 We had a family session. 1244 01:23:12,917 --> 01:23:15,667 They all cried. 1245 01:23:15,750 --> 01:23:19,333 They all understandably tried to talk him out of it. 1246 01:23:19,417 --> 01:23:23,208 They begged him, especially his poor son. 1247 01:23:23,542 --> 01:23:25,709 Um... 1248 01:23:25,792 --> 01:23:30,208 And he didn't cry in that session. 1249 01:23:32,041 --> 01:23:33,083 Um, which is more troubling. 1250 01:23:35,083 --> 01:23:37,792 So at the end of the session Teddy says, 1251 01:23:37,875 --> 01:23:40,417 "I probably won't see you again." 1252 01:23:41,041 --> 01:23:44,083 And I heard that word. 1253 01:23:44,542 --> 01:23:46,959 "Probably." 1254 01:23:47,041 --> 01:23:51,166 And I said, "Teddy," 1255 01:23:51,250 --> 01:23:54,083 I said, "Get your ass back in here." 1256 01:23:54,166 --> 01:23:57,667 So he came in. I said, "What do you mean, probably?" 1257 01:23:57,750 --> 01:24:01,583 And that's when I made the proposal to him. 1258 01:24:01,667 --> 01:24:07,458 I said, "We're gonna stage a funeral for you 1259 01:24:07,542 --> 01:24:11,542 so you'll know what it's like for them." 1260 01:24:11,625 --> 01:24:15,875 Little Teddy, Mom, 1261 01:24:15,959 --> 01:24:17,166 myself and Teddy 1262 01:24:17,250 --> 01:24:19,959 had to invite all of the people we felt, you know, 1263 01:24:20,041 --> 01:24:23,709 were our closest friends, family, whoever. 1264 01:24:23,792 --> 01:24:25,709 And he put a sheet over Teddy. 1265 01:24:25,792 --> 01:24:27,667 And he said, "OK, you're dead." 1266 01:24:27,750 --> 01:24:31,083 And he said, "You can't say anything," 1267 01:24:31,125 --> 01:24:33,917 and one by one we had to walk up 1268 01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:36,208 and express to Teddy 1269 01:24:36,291 --> 01:24:40,625 what we felt about him taking... about him being dead. 1270 01:24:40,709 --> 01:24:44,375 Our job was to tell him... 1271 01:24:45,792 --> 01:24:49,375 how we feel about him and what life would be like without him. 1272 01:24:49,458 --> 01:24:54,000 I remember a lot of people being mad, angry, hurt, 1273 01:24:54,083 --> 01:24:57,041 because everybody felt that he had so much to live for. 1274 01:24:57,125 --> 01:25:00,250 And they took that sheet off of his face. 1275 01:25:00,333 --> 01:25:05,417 And Teddy sat up in that chair and said, "I don't wanna die." 1276 01:25:05,500 --> 01:25:07,250 He said, "I want to live." 1277 01:25:07,333 --> 01:25:09,542 I don't know what that did to him 1278 01:25:09,625 --> 01:25:13,208 but death was not even a question after that. 1279 01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:37,500 He was determined to be able to sing. 1280 01:25:37,583 --> 01:25:42,458 Everybody with whom he consulted except for me, 1281 01:25:42,542 --> 01:25:44,750 told him it was impossible. 1282 01:25:48,667 --> 01:25:52,750 A couple of months after it happened, I tried singing. 1283 01:25:52,834 --> 01:25:54,333 I was scared to death. 1284 01:25:54,417 --> 01:25:56,542 And I remember it was in the afternoon, 1285 01:25:56,625 --> 01:25:58,250 there was a coffee commercial. 1286 01:26:04,959 --> 01:26:09,291 And I said, "You know, there's... Doggone it, you know? 1287 01:26:09,375 --> 01:26:11,000 It's a possibility, yeah. 1288 01:26:11,083 --> 01:26:13,792 You know, if given the opportunity, 1289 01:26:13,875 --> 01:26:15,291 yeah, we can do this." 1290 01:26:15,375 --> 01:26:19,291 I thought it was unlikely that he was going to be able to sing 1291 01:26:19,375 --> 01:26:22,792 fully the same way that he had before. 1292 01:26:22,875 --> 01:26:24,208 But that we would get him singing again 1293 01:26:24,291 --> 01:26:27,667 and then he would have to decide whether that was 1294 01:26:27,750 --> 01:26:31,083 a good enough sound to go back into the studio 1295 01:26:31,166 --> 01:26:32,542 and to go out in public. 1296 01:26:32,625 --> 01:26:36,291 So the next thing I did was get a hold of all the video tapes 1297 01:26:36,375 --> 01:26:39,291 that I could to study his voice and his technique 1298 01:26:39,375 --> 01:26:43,625 and find out what we were trying to restore. 1299 01:26:43,709 --> 01:26:48,125 ♪ Taking the bumps and the bruises and all the things ♪ 1300 01:26:48,208 --> 01:26:51,291 ♪ Of a two-time loser ♪ 1301 01:26:51,417 --> 01:26:54,750 ♪ Trying to hold on, faith is gone ♪ 1302 01:26:54,834 --> 01:26:56,709 ♪ It's just another sad song ♪ 1303 01:26:56,792 --> 01:26:58,542 It's not a coincidence 1304 01:26:58,625 --> 01:27:00,750 that Teddy Pendergrass's accident 1305 01:27:00,834 --> 01:27:03,834 and the slow, quiet fade-out of Philly International 1306 01:27:03,917 --> 01:27:07,375 happened at the same time. 1307 01:27:07,458 --> 01:27:08,875 Yeah, they've had hits with Patti LaBelle 1308 01:27:08,959 --> 01:27:12,500 and The O'Jays, you know, since, 1309 01:27:12,583 --> 01:27:16,333 but it wasn't quite the same. 1310 01:27:16,417 --> 01:27:18,208 - It wasn't the same. - No, it wasn't the same. 1311 01:27:18,291 --> 01:27:20,250 - The company wasn't the same. - No. 1312 01:27:20,333 --> 01:27:24,000 It was very difficult because 1313 01:27:24,083 --> 01:27:28,250 the Kenny and Leon record label was distributed by CBS. 1314 01:27:28,333 --> 01:27:33,000 And there was a lot of fighting back and forth. 1315 01:27:33,041 --> 01:27:36,417 With the accident and not being able to secure 1316 01:27:36,500 --> 01:27:38,041 another deal with CBS Records, 1317 01:27:38,083 --> 01:27:42,667 time had run out. For everybody. 1318 01:27:42,750 --> 01:27:45,917 Your record company left, they walked away, right? 1319 01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:49,208 So long, you can't do it for us anymore, goodbye. 1320 01:27:49,291 --> 01:27:50,583 That must have hurt. 1321 01:27:50,667 --> 01:27:54,166 Tremendously. Tremendously. 1322 01:27:54,250 --> 01:27:57,875 It was depressing how people 1323 01:27:57,959 --> 01:28:03,375 thinking he had no career left just were completely uh... 1324 01:28:03,458 --> 01:28:05,959 without compassion. 1325 01:28:06,041 --> 01:28:09,542 'Cause they thought everything was in the past, not the future. 1326 01:28:09,625 --> 01:28:11,667 ♪ It's just another sad song ♪ 1327 01:28:11,750 --> 01:28:14,375 I hoped that he'd be able to sing again 1328 01:28:14,458 --> 01:28:17,417 and Teddy was very determined. 1329 01:28:17,500 --> 01:28:21,709 ♪ 'Cause it looks like to me another ♪ 1330 01:28:23,166 --> 01:28:26,083 Teddy's vocal cords were fine 1331 01:28:26,166 --> 01:28:30,500 but the vocal cords are only a small part of the voice. 1332 01:28:30,583 --> 01:28:32,125 You have to blow through it 1333 01:28:32,208 --> 01:28:35,917 and you do that with the air in your lungs 1334 01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:39,417 controlled by the muscles of your chest and abdomen and back. 1335 01:28:39,500 --> 01:28:44,291 ♪ Ohh... ♪ 1336 01:28:45,709 --> 01:28:47,458 Teddy couldn't do that. 1337 01:28:47,542 --> 01:28:51,750 ♪ Oh, love me ♪ 1338 01:28:51,834 --> 01:28:53,834 Shep Gordon, Teddy's manager, called me 1339 01:28:53,917 --> 01:28:57,583 and told me what had happened at his previous record company. 1340 01:28:57,667 --> 01:29:02,417 They were unsure about going forward with Teddy Pendergrass. 1341 01:29:02,500 --> 01:29:06,959 I was not really aware of how serious Teddy's problems were. 1342 01:29:07,041 --> 01:29:08,291 I had heard the rumors. 1343 01:29:08,375 --> 01:29:10,625 I asked Shep, "Shep, what is the truth?" 1344 01:29:10,709 --> 01:29:13,500 He told me what the truth is. I said, "I am in." 1345 01:29:13,583 --> 01:29:17,834 Teddy had some residual arm fluxion. 1346 01:29:17,917 --> 01:29:21,291 He was able to use his biceps. 1347 01:29:21,875 --> 01:29:23,959 So we created for him 1348 01:29:24,083 --> 01:29:27,875 a belt-like apparatus that went around his waist 1349 01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:31,000 so when he needed more support for his singing voice, 1350 01:29:31,083 --> 01:29:32,667 he flexed his arms 1351 01:29:32,750 --> 01:29:36,875 and everything around his abdomen and back tightened 1352 01:29:36,959 --> 01:29:38,333 and he was able to sing again. 1353 01:29:38,417 --> 01:29:41,834 This is his first live television interview 1354 01:29:41,959 --> 01:29:44,333 since the car he was driving crashed 26 months ago. 1355 01:29:44,417 --> 01:29:45,667 He was left paralyzed. 1356 01:29:45,750 --> 01:29:49,917 Teddy got his voice back and he regained some strength. 1357 01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:53,750 I have accomplished something that um... 1358 01:29:53,834 --> 01:29:57,917 was at first unsure that I'd be able to do. 1359 01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:00,375 People would say, "Oh, the guy's dead, he's gone. 1360 01:30:00,458 --> 01:30:03,917 He won't be back. That's it for him. Wash-out. He's gone." 1361 01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:06,333 And I set out to prove 1362 01:30:06,417 --> 01:30:11,083 that nobody will determine when I'm done but me. 1363 01:30:11,166 --> 01:30:14,750 I went back to Bob Krasnow and I said I think we can do an album. 1364 01:30:16,417 --> 01:30:21,000 This album is a product of two years of thinking. 1365 01:30:21,083 --> 01:30:23,041 I've received a lot of love 1366 01:30:23,125 --> 01:30:25,333 and I hope to give that love back through my music. 1367 01:30:25,417 --> 01:30:29,333 ♪ I'm a tried and true romantic ♪ 1368 01:30:29,417 --> 01:30:33,583 My focus was I have millions of women 1369 01:30:33,667 --> 01:30:37,750 who love Teddy, who know about the tragedy. 1370 01:30:37,834 --> 01:30:41,208 They've probably listened to his old records every day 1371 01:30:41,291 --> 01:30:43,875 for the last three years and cried, 1372 01:30:43,959 --> 01:30:46,166 and he's now going to speak to that one person. 1373 01:30:46,250 --> 01:30:49,667 Teddy's going to talk to her. 1374 01:30:49,750 --> 01:30:51,417 ♪ In my time ♪ 1375 01:30:51,500 --> 01:30:56,000 ♪ I've lived and loved so much ♪ 1376 01:30:56,083 --> 01:31:00,000 ♪ And through each high and low ♪ 1377 01:31:00,083 --> 01:31:02,625 ♪ I've let my heart be touched ♪ 1378 01:31:05,333 --> 01:31:10,125 ♪ In my time there isn't much I've missed ♪ 1379 01:31:10,208 --> 01:31:14,750 The words to the song were "I've never loved like this before." 1380 01:31:14,834 --> 01:31:18,166 Knowing every woman would start crying immediately. 1381 01:31:18,250 --> 01:31:20,583 ♪ I've never loved like this... ♪ 1382 01:31:20,667 --> 01:31:22,291 And we go to his high-school gymnasium 1383 01:31:22,375 --> 01:31:24,583 and we make a very conscious decision 1384 01:31:24,667 --> 01:31:28,458 we're gonna show him in the wheelchair, not gonna hide it. 1385 01:31:28,542 --> 01:31:30,875 ♪ In my time ♪ 1386 01:31:30,959 --> 01:31:35,250 ♪ I've lived and loved so much ♪ 1387 01:31:35,333 --> 01:31:38,250 ♪ And through each high and low ♪ 1388 01:31:38,333 --> 01:31:42,625 ♪ I've let my heart be touched ♪ 1389 01:31:44,417 --> 01:31:47,291 ♪ In my time ♪ 1390 01:31:47,375 --> 01:31:50,166 ♪ There isn't much I missed ♪ 1391 01:31:50,250 --> 01:31:53,500 ♪ I've seen love come and go ♪ 1392 01:31:54,250 --> 01:31:56,250 ♪ But heaven knows ♪ 1393 01:31:56,333 --> 01:31:58,959 ♪ I've never loved like this ♪ 1394 01:31:59,083 --> 01:32:02,625 ♪ In my time ♪ 1395 01:32:04,166 --> 01:32:05,041 Teddy! 1396 01:32:05,125 --> 01:32:09,458 - We got a surprise for you. - Holy shit! 1397 01:32:09,542 --> 01:32:11,000 - What is this? 1398 01:32:11,083 --> 01:32:12,917 A little gold record for you. 1399 01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:14,750 Teddy, we're really pleased 1400 01:32:14,834 --> 01:32:16,959 to give you your first gold record with us 1401 01:32:17,041 --> 01:32:20,959 and we're glad that at least part of the road to recovery 1402 01:32:21,041 --> 01:32:22,750 is paved in gold. God bless. 1403 01:32:22,834 --> 01:32:26,542 Ah! Thank you. Thank you. 1404 01:32:28,792 --> 01:32:33,041 ♪ When the whole world seems against you ♪ 1405 01:32:34,625 --> 01:32:40,166 ♪ And your whole life seems unborn ♪ 1406 01:32:40,250 --> 01:32:43,875 ♪ When all you ever wanted ♪ 1407 01:32:43,959 --> 01:32:45,500 ♪ Was a little peace ♪ 1408 01:32:45,583 --> 01:32:49,291 ♪ I can understand just how you feel ♪ 1409 01:32:49,375 --> 01:32:53,875 ♪ Don't let this cold world ♪ 1410 01:32:53,959 --> 01:32:57,125 ♪ Get you down ♪ 1411 01:32:58,458 --> 01:33:00,875 ♪ Be strong, hold on ♪ 1412 01:33:00,959 --> 01:33:05,083 ♪ Don't let this cold world ♪ 1413 01:33:05,166 --> 01:33:06,375 ♪ Get you down ♪ 1414 01:33:06,458 --> 01:33:08,709 ♪ Don't let it get you down... ♪ 1415 01:33:08,792 --> 01:33:12,250 Taking performance away from me was bad enough. 1416 01:33:12,333 --> 01:33:15,375 I'm a performer by heart. 1417 01:33:15,458 --> 01:33:17,250 That's what I've been doing since I'm two years old. 1418 01:33:17,333 --> 01:33:19,875 Been doing it 32 years. 1419 01:33:19,959 --> 01:33:23,166 So I had to come to grips with not being able to perform. 1420 01:33:23,250 --> 01:33:25,917 How painful is that for you now? 1421 01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:28,583 I haven't said that I won't perform. 1422 01:33:28,667 --> 01:33:31,250 At the time I didn't know whether or not I will or won't. 1423 01:33:31,333 --> 01:33:31,959 I'm still not saying. 1424 01:33:37,875 --> 01:33:41,959 Live Aid got announced and one of the sites was Philly. 1425 01:33:42,041 --> 01:33:43,542 One song in the middle of Live Aid 1426 01:33:43,625 --> 01:33:47,000 and it's goose-bump moment for everybody. 1427 01:33:47,959 --> 01:33:51,542 He was so scared and everybody, 1428 01:33:51,625 --> 01:33:54,542 we were so reassuring of him. 1429 01:33:54,625 --> 01:33:57,208 "Dad, you can do it and we're so happy for you. 1430 01:33:57,291 --> 01:34:00,208 You can do it, we love you." 1431 01:34:00,291 --> 01:34:03,083 We were like a mini entourage, mini family entourage. 1432 01:34:03,166 --> 01:34:05,250 We would get behind and get beside him 1433 01:34:05,333 --> 01:34:06,917 and went out and a number of artists 1434 01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:10,583 and other entertainers were excited to see him, see him out. 1435 01:34:10,667 --> 01:34:15,125 You know, he always had a certain standard, 1436 01:34:15,208 --> 01:34:17,333 and he wanted to continue that standard 1437 01:34:17,417 --> 01:34:18,875 so of course he was nervous. 1438 01:34:18,959 --> 01:34:21,458 How would people receive him in the wheelchair? 1439 01:34:21,542 --> 01:34:26,583 Oh, he was nervous, he was... nervous. 1440 01:34:26,709 --> 01:34:27,917 I was nervous 1441 01:34:28,041 --> 01:34:31,667 so I can't imagine what he was feeling 1442 01:34:31,750 --> 01:34:32,959 but because he was our friend, 1443 01:34:33,041 --> 01:34:35,750 if he thought he was ready then we thought he was ready. 1444 01:34:35,834 --> 01:34:40,166 Teddy went out at the bottom of the ramp 1445 01:34:40,250 --> 01:34:41,750 and he was looking really slick. 1446 01:34:41,834 --> 01:34:43,500 But I could see something was wrong. 1447 01:34:43,583 --> 01:34:44,834 I went over to him and he said, 1448 01:34:44,917 --> 01:34:49,417 "I don't think I can do this. I can't pull this off. 1449 01:34:49,500 --> 01:34:52,625 I don't think I have the power to pull it off." 1450 01:34:52,709 --> 01:34:55,208 I said, "Well, we're here, we've gotta do it." 1451 01:34:55,291 --> 01:34:56,166 And he said, "I don't know." 1452 01:34:56,250 --> 01:34:57,834 I said, "Teddy, I'm wheeling you out there. 1453 01:34:57,917 --> 01:35:01,834 You don't have to sing but you're gonna be there." 1454 01:35:01,917 --> 01:35:04,166 Put your hands together 1455 01:35:04,250 --> 01:35:07,166 and give a big round of applause 1456 01:35:07,250 --> 01:35:09,583 to Mr. Teddy Pendergrass! 1457 01:35:16,667 --> 01:35:19,250 When he rolled himself out, 1458 01:35:19,333 --> 01:35:21,542 I remember it was almost like choreographed, 1459 01:35:21,625 --> 01:35:23,709 we kind of backed away from him. 1460 01:35:23,792 --> 01:35:26,792 And it was such a long applause. 1461 01:35:26,875 --> 01:35:29,375 More applause than I've ever heard in my life. 1462 01:35:37,208 --> 01:35:40,208 Oh, listen, Ashford, thank you so much. 1463 01:35:42,875 --> 01:35:45,542 When he rolled out on that stage, 1464 01:35:45,625 --> 01:35:47,750 everybody just cried. 1465 01:35:47,834 --> 01:35:50,542 We just lost it 1466 01:35:50,625 --> 01:35:53,625 but it was like a happy time. 1467 01:35:53,709 --> 01:35:54,875 We were so proud of him. 1468 01:35:54,959 --> 01:35:56,750 I am truly grateful to be here today... 1469 01:36:00,667 --> 01:36:03,000 and I want you to know I feel your love. 1470 01:36:04,875 --> 01:36:09,250 Very glad to be sharing the stage with Ashford and Simpson. 1471 01:36:11,625 --> 01:36:15,250 ♪ Reach out and touch ♪ 1472 01:36:16,166 --> 01:36:18,959 ♪ Somebody's hand ♪ 1473 01:36:19,041 --> 01:36:21,792 ♪ Make this world a better place ♪ 1474 01:36:21,875 --> 01:36:24,792 - ♪ If you can ♪ 1475 01:36:24,875 --> 01:36:28,083 ♪ Reach out and touch ♪ 1476 01:36:28,166 --> 01:36:30,917 ♪ Touch somebody's hand ♪ 1477 01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:35,000 It was the perfect song and it was his personal life. 1478 01:36:35,083 --> 01:36:36,667 You know, he was reaching out. 1479 01:36:36,750 --> 01:36:40,291 ♪ Reach out and touch ♪ 1480 01:36:40,375 --> 01:36:42,166 ♪ Somebody's hand ♪ 1481 01:36:42,250 --> 01:36:43,250 ♪ Somebody ♪ 1482 01:36:43,333 --> 01:36:46,792 ♪ Make this world a better place ♪ 1483 01:36:46,834 --> 01:36:48,583 ♪ If you can ♪ 1484 01:36:48,667 --> 01:36:51,166 ♪ Reach out and touch ♪ 1485 01:36:51,250 --> 01:36:53,792 ♪ Somebody's hand ♪ 1486 01:36:53,875 --> 01:36:58,125 ♪ Make this world a better place ♪ 1487 01:36:58,250 --> 01:37:01,458 ♪ If you can ♪ 1488 01:37:03,709 --> 01:37:06,750 ♪ Take a little time from your busy day ♪ 1489 01:37:06,834 --> 01:37:09,250 ♪ To give encouragement ♪ 1490 01:37:09,333 --> 01:37:11,917 ♪ To someone who's lost their way ♪ 1491 01:37:14,291 --> 01:37:15,166 ♪ Would you do that? ♪ 1492 01:37:15,250 --> 01:37:19,375 ♪ Or would I be talking to a stone ♪ 1493 01:37:19,458 --> 01:37:22,291 ♪ If I asked you to share a problem ♪ 1494 01:37:22,375 --> 01:37:24,792 ♪ That's not your own ♪ 1495 01:37:25,709 --> 01:37:28,417 ♪ Oh, we can change ♪ 1496 01:37:28,500 --> 01:37:32,291 ♪ If we start giving ♪ 1497 01:37:32,375 --> 01:37:35,583 - ♪ Why don't you ♪ - ♪ Reach out and touch ♪ 1498 01:37:35,667 --> 01:37:38,000 ♪ Touch somebody... ♪ 1499 01:37:38,083 --> 01:37:40,500 He was a man that did suffer, 1500 01:37:40,583 --> 01:37:43,625 and like most of us, 1501 01:37:44,917 --> 01:37:49,083 it's not the suffering, it's how you deal with the suffering. 1502 01:37:50,417 --> 01:37:56,041 And he dealt with it at first by wanting to die 1503 01:37:56,125 --> 01:37:58,500 and now I watched him deal with it 1504 01:37:58,583 --> 01:38:02,917 by shifting his outlook towards life. 1505 01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:07,000 When I seen him on Live Aid, it was, he's back. 1506 01:38:07,083 --> 01:38:12,583 He's back. Wheelchair or no wheelchair, he's back. 1507 01:38:12,667 --> 01:38:15,208 - ♪ Oh, we can change things ♪ - ♪ Change things ♪ 1508 01:38:15,291 --> 01:38:17,083 - ♪ If we start giving ♪ - ♪ Giving ♪ 1509 01:38:17,166 --> 01:38:21,041 - ♪ Why don't you ♪ - ♪ Why don't you ♪ 1510 01:38:21,125 --> 01:38:24,041 - ♪ Reach out and touch ♪ - ♪ Touch ♪ 1511 01:38:24,125 --> 01:38:28,041 - ♪ Somebody's hand ♪ - ♪ Touch somebody's hand ♪ 1512 01:38:28,125 --> 01:38:31,000 ♪ Make this world a better place ♪ 1513 01:38:31,083 --> 01:38:34,000 - ♪ If you can ♪ - ♪ Would you reach out ♪ 1514 01:38:34,083 --> 01:38:37,166 - ♪ Reach out and touch ♪ - ♪ Touch somebody's ♪ 1515 01:38:37,250 --> 01:38:38,417 ♪ Somebody's ♪ 1516 01:38:38,500 --> 01:38:40,709 ♪ Would you touch somebody's ♪ 1517 01:38:40,792 --> 01:38:42,875 ♪ Touch somebody's ♪ 1518 01:38:42,959 --> 01:38:46,041 - ♪ A better place ♪ - ♪ Gotta be a better place ♪ 1519 01:38:46,125 --> 01:38:47,625 ♪ Reach out and touch ♪ 1520 01:38:47,709 --> 01:38:49,917 - ♪ Somebody's hand ♪ - ♪ Somebody's ♪ 1521 01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:53,583 ♪ Make this world a better place ♪ 1522 01:38:53,667 --> 01:38:58,709 ♪ If you can reach out ♪ 1523 01:38:58,792 --> 01:39:03,166 ♪ And touch ♪ 1524 01:39:11,792 --> 01:39:15,083 So many people are afraid 1525 01:39:15,166 --> 01:39:16,375 like if something happens to them, 1526 01:39:16,458 --> 01:39:21,083 they just give up and he didn't give up, he was a fighter. 1527 01:39:21,166 --> 01:39:23,792 And we always go, "Don't we know!" 1528 01:39:23,875 --> 01:39:26,125 So by the time we got back home, 1529 01:39:26,208 --> 01:39:29,750 his part came on television, it was now broadcasting 1530 01:39:29,834 --> 01:39:31,250 so we got to see it on TV 1531 01:39:31,291 --> 01:39:35,166 and we're laying there watching it and he looks at me, said, 1532 01:39:35,250 --> 01:39:38,000 "Why didn't you tell me I was a blubberbutt?" 1533 01:39:39,333 --> 01:39:43,000 And I'm like, "I didn't even realize you were that big!" 1534 01:39:43,083 --> 01:39:46,667 So immediately he was like, "I'm going on a diet." 1535 01:39:52,375 --> 01:39:56,875 Thank you, thank you, so, so, so, so, so, so. 1536 01:39:58,667 --> 01:40:02,125 Oh, my God! Oh, my God! 1537 01:40:02,208 --> 01:40:04,500 Hey! 1538 01:40:04,583 --> 01:40:09,166 There is a dim light on all he has accomplished 1539 01:40:09,250 --> 01:40:11,625 and that light needs to be a lot brighter 1540 01:40:11,709 --> 01:40:13,875 and we need to keep his legacy alive 1541 01:40:13,959 --> 01:40:15,792 because these young whippersnappers 1542 01:40:15,875 --> 01:40:17,500 need to see a Teddy Pendergrass 1543 01:40:17,583 --> 01:40:20,834 so they know how it's supposed to be done. 1544 01:40:20,917 --> 01:40:22,834 We always listened to his music, 1545 01:40:22,917 --> 01:40:24,208 especially growing up. 1546 01:40:25,458 --> 01:40:27,667 I got to meet the original band, 1547 01:40:27,750 --> 01:40:29,291 original background singers. 1548 01:40:29,375 --> 01:40:33,208 And they are just like so humble and they know so much. 1549 01:40:33,291 --> 01:40:36,667 I'm in awe because they were telling me all these stories. 1550 01:40:36,750 --> 01:40:37,125 I was like, wow. 1551 01:40:38,875 --> 01:40:39,834 ♪ Wake up, everybody ♪ 1552 01:40:39,917 --> 01:40:43,792 ♪ No more sleeping in bed ♪ 1553 01:40:43,875 --> 01:40:48,667 ♪ No more backward thinking, time for thinking ahead ♪ 1554 01:40:48,750 --> 01:40:51,375 ♪ The world has changed so very much ♪ 1555 01:40:51,458 --> 01:40:53,875 ♪ From what it used to be ♪ 1556 01:40:53,959 --> 01:40:55,709 ♪ There is so much hatred ♪ 1557 01:40:55,792 --> 01:40:59,875 ♪ War and poverty ♪ 1558 01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:06,041 ♪ Ohh... ♪ 1559 01:41:06,125 --> 01:41:07,333 ♪ Ohh... ♪ 1560 01:41:07,417 --> 01:41:09,250 ♪ Wake up, all the teachers ♪ 1561 01:41:09,333 --> 01:41:11,583 ♪ Time to teach a new way ♪ 1562 01:41:11,667 --> 01:41:16,542 ♪ Maybe then they'll listen to what you have to say ♪ 1563 01:41:16,625 --> 01:41:19,083 ♪ 'Cause they're the ones who's coming up ♪ 1564 01:41:19,166 --> 01:41:21,875 ♪ And the world is in their hands ♪ 1565 01:41:21,959 --> 01:41:24,083 ♪ So when you teach the children ♪ 1566 01:41:24,166 --> 01:41:27,750 ♪ Teach 'em the very best you can ♪ 1567 01:41:30,458 --> 01:41:35,000 ♪ The world won't get no better ♪ 1568 01:41:35,083 --> 01:41:38,542 ♪ If we just let it be ♪ 1569 01:41:40,375 --> 01:41:44,000 ♪ The world won't get no better ♪ 1570 01:41:44,083 --> 01:41:48,583 ♪ We gotta change it, yeah, just you and me ♪ 1571 01:41:51,709 --> 01:41:56,458 ♪ Wake up, all the doctors, make the old people well ♪ 1572 01:41:56,542 --> 01:41:57,792 ♪ 'Cause they're the ones who suffer ♪ 1573 01:41:57,917 --> 01:42:01,375 ♪ And who catch all the hell ♪ 1574 01:42:01,458 --> 01:42:03,875 ♪ 'Cause they don't have so very long ♪ 1575 01:42:03,917 --> 01:42:06,333 ♪ Before their judgment day ♪ 1576 01:42:06,417 --> 01:42:08,875 ♪ So won't you make them happy ♪ 1577 01:42:08,959 --> 01:42:14,250 ♪ Before they pass away? ♪ 1578 01:42:14,333 --> 01:42:19,333 ♪ Wake up, all the builders, time to build a new land ♪ 1579 01:42:19,417 --> 01:42:24,000 ♪ I know we can do it if we all lend a hand ♪ 1580 01:42:24,083 --> 01:42:26,834 ♪ The only thing we have to do ♪ 1581 01:42:26,917 --> 01:42:28,959 ♪ Is put it in our mind ♪ 1582 01:42:29,041 --> 01:42:31,333 ♪ Surely things will work out ♪ 1583 01:42:31,417 --> 01:42:35,166 ♪ They do it every time ♪ 1584 01:42:37,625 --> 01:42:41,959 ♪ The world won't get no better ♪ 1585 01:42:42,041 --> 01:42:43,959 ♪ If we just let it be ♪ 1586 01:42:44,041 --> 01:42:47,500 ♪ Na-na-na-na na na na ♪ 1587 01:42:47,583 --> 01:42:50,834 ♪ The world won't get no better ♪ 1588 01:42:50,875 --> 01:42:54,208 ♪ We gotta change it, yeah, just you and me ♪ 1589 01:42:58,959 --> 01:43:00,750 ♪ Change it, yeah ♪ 1590 01:43:04,083 --> 01:43:04,834 ♪ Wake up ♪ 1591 01:43:04,917 --> 01:43:08,834 ♪ Everybody ♪ 1592 01:43:08,917 --> 01:43:10,458 ♪ Wake up ♪ 1593 01:43:10,542 --> 01:43:12,375 ♪ Everybody ♪ 1594 01:43:13,875 --> 01:43:14,834 ♪ Wake up ♪ 1595 01:43:14,917 --> 01:43:18,542 ♪ Everybody ♪ 1596 01:43:18,625 --> 01:43:20,166 ♪ Wake up ♪ 1597 01:43:20,250 --> 01:43:22,375 ♪ Everybody ♪ 1598 01:43:23,625 --> 01:43:25,542 ♪ Wake up ♪ 1599 01:43:28,208 --> 01:43:29,959 ♪ Wake up ♪ 1600 01:43:46,291 --> 01:43:50,208 ♪ Now wait just a minute, what is this I see? ♪ 1601 01:43:50,291 --> 01:43:54,542 ♪ Is that you? Don't you remember me? ♪ 1602 01:43:54,625 --> 01:43:58,375 ♪ You're not the same person that I knew ♪ 1603 01:43:58,458 --> 01:44:02,834 ♪ So where'd you go? What'd you do to yourself? ♪ 1604 01:44:02,917 --> 01:44:06,750 ♪ You were much better when we used to get down ♪ 1605 01:44:06,834 --> 01:44:09,875 ♪ Remember then there was nothing in your sound ♪ 1606 01:44:09,959 --> 01:44:13,208 - ♪ Girl, you know ♪ - ♪ Girl, you know ♪ 1607 01:44:13,291 --> 01:44:15,709 ♪ You like the taste of the wine ♪ 1608 01:44:15,792 --> 01:44:17,458 ♪ Oh, I don't know who you're trying to fool ♪ 1609 01:44:17,542 --> 01:44:20,333 - ♪ Girl, you know ♪ - ♪ Girl, you know ♪ 1610 01:44:20,417 --> 01:44:24,083 ♪ You like the taste of the wine ♪ 1611 01:44:27,208 --> 01:44:31,375 ♪ You should be ashamed of the way you appear ♪ 1612 01:44:31,458 --> 01:44:35,041 ♪ Look at yourself, don't you give me no tears ♪ 1613 01:44:35,125 --> 01:44:39,875 ♪ You used to be carefree and that was your only way ♪ 1614 01:44:39,959 --> 01:44:44,000 ♪ And now a school teacher, you try to read a date ♪ 1615 01:44:44,083 --> 01:44:48,083 ♪ There were times we rocked all night long ♪ 1616 01:44:48,166 --> 01:44:51,166 ♪ So don't pretend that the feeling is gone ♪ 1617 01:44:51,250 --> 01:44:53,291 - ♪ Girl, you know ♪ - ♪ Girl, you know ♪ 1618 01:44:53,375 --> 01:44:56,625 ♪ You like the taste of the wine ♪ 1619 01:44:56,709 --> 01:45:00,000 ♪ You know that I know that you know, yeah, you know ♪ 1620 01:45:00,083 --> 01:45:02,500 ♪ Girl, you know ♪ 1621 01:45:02,583 --> 01:45:04,583 ♪ You like the taste of the wine ♪ 1622 01:45:07,834 --> 01:45:10,125 ♪ Do it ♪ 1623 01:45:11,083 --> 01:45:13,959 ♪ The way you used to ♪ 1624 01:45:16,750 --> 01:45:18,750 ♪ Do it ♪ 1625 01:45:18,834 --> 01:45:21,375 ♪ The way I remember you ♪ 1626 01:45:24,166 --> 01:45:25,750 ♪ Oh yeah ♪ 1627 01:45:30,041 --> 01:45:33,208 ♪ Mm-mm, mm-mm ♪ 1628 01:45:37,083 --> 01:45:40,458 ♪ You say you don't recognize your pal ♪ 1629 01:45:40,542 --> 01:45:45,542 ♪ Afraid I'd tell you were my good-time gal ♪ 1630 01:45:45,625 --> 01:45:48,417 ♪ I see you changed, the image is true ♪ 1631 01:45:48,500 --> 01:45:51,041 ♪ You don't smoke, you don't drink ♪ 1632 01:45:51,125 --> 01:45:54,333 ♪ What else don't you do? ♪ 1633 01:45:54,458 --> 01:45:58,000 ♪ 'Cause you were the one who could never get enough ♪ 1634 01:45:58,083 --> 01:46:01,166 ♪ It was good to you then so don't you pull no stuff ♪ 1635 01:46:01,250 --> 01:46:03,333 - ♪ Girl, you know ♪ - ♪ Girl, you know ♪ 1636 01:46:03,417 --> 01:46:05,458 ♪ You like the taste of the wine ♪ 1637 01:46:05,542 --> 01:46:08,667 ♪ Oh, I don't know who you're trying to fool ♪ 1638 01:46:08,750 --> 01:46:10,500 ♪ But I know, yeah, you know it ♪ 1639 01:46:10,583 --> 01:46:15,792 ♪ Girl, you know you like the taste of the wine ♪ 120777

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