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NARRATOR:
Is the U. S. government
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covering up the truth
about alien contact?
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And if so, why?
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JOHN PODESTA:
The government seems to be
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completely unaccountable
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to the American public.
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They rarely release anything
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that they know
or their findings.
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GIORGIO A. TSOUKALOS: The fact
that the U. S. government has
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investigated thousands
and thousands of reports
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leads me to think
they know much more
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than they let us believe.
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NARRATOR: Could the government
have a secret agenda,
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one known to only a select few,
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and perhaps dating back
hundreds of years?
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GEORGE NOORY: The government's
program continues
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to be deny, deny, deny.
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NICK POPE: Sometimes,
government finds it helpful
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to sow seeds of disinformation
and misinformation
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to hide the facts
about these sorts of programs.
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STEVE BASSETT: Hillary Clinton
was basically saying,
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"You are going to give me
the information I need
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to disclose
the extraterrestrial presence,
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or I'm gonna fire
every single one of you."
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PODESTA: People want to know
what the government knows,
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and they ought to know
what the government knows.
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NARRATOR:
On December 16th, 2017,
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The New York Times
ran an explosive story
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entitled "Glowing Auras
and 'Black Money':
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The Pentagon's
Mysterious UFO Program."
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It was the first time
the American public learned
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of a top secret
U. S. government project,
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the Advanced Aerospace
Threat Identification Program,
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otherwise known as AATIP.
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The revelations
concerning the existence
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of the Pentagon's AATIP program
are extraordinary.
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It is the single
biggest ever news
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in the whole history
of the UFO phenomenon.
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It's not quite a spaceship
in a hangar smoking gun,
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but it's the closest
we've ever been.
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I assure you that nothing
like this has ever happened
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in the history of this issue.
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This is a milestone.
This is a watershed.
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NARRATOR: The article reported
that the program had been run
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by a former Pentagon official
named Luis Elizondo,
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a senior career
intelligence officer
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with top security clearance and
with experience in everything
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from microbiology
and parasitology
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to the study
of global terrorism.
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It was Elizondo's job
to investigate reports
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of unidentified flying objects,
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and to measure what threat they
could pose to national security.
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AATIP received these cases
from various different channels.
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In some cases, reporting would
come up through Navy channels.
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In other cases, it would come up
through Air Force channels.
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In other cases,
it would come through
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the intelligence community,
and all roads led to our office,
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regarding the phenomena.
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NARRATOR:
Elizondo played a key role
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in the government's
top secret AATIP program
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prior to his leaving
the government in 2017.
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Among the reasons given for
his departure was the bitterness
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he felt that the research
he was conducting,
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and the conclusions that he and
his colleagues were reaching,
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were not being taken seriously
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by other agencies
within the government.
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Even Congress, to which
AATIP owed its funding,
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was hard-pressed to give
Elizondo so much as a hearing
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so that his findings could be
made part of the public record.
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Interestingly, just two months
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after Elizondo's exit
from the government,
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The New York Times
broke the major story,
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exposing the AATIP program
and many of the facts
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surrounding the government's
secret research
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into UFO activity.
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When I read in The New York
Times this front page story
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that the government was running
this semi-secret program
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to investigate, well,
aerial phenomena,
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which is kind of
a code word for UFOs,
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yeah, you know, I thought,
"My God, all these years,
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"you know, people who think
that we're being visited
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"were claiming that
the government was, in fact,
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"possessing some
secret knowledge about this.
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And, sure enough, they did have
this secret investigation."
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NARRATOR: For Luis Elizondo,
The New York Times article
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served as a vindication
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for the years that his research
went unrecognized
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and his warnings unheeded.
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For if the UFO activity
being recorded was real,
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so, too, was the possibility
that it was being caused
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by technologies
that were not only unknown,
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but of extraterrestrial origin.
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NOORY: Elizondo,
he resigned because he felt
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the government
considered this a joke.
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I think that the fact
that these folks are out there
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trying to get the answers
that we're all seeking,
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absolutely fantastic.
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And they're getting
to top government officials.
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And someday,
we're gonna get the answers
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from people like that--
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not from government,
but from people like that.
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NARRATOR:
Luckily for Luis Elizondo,
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one of the people who took him
and his research seriously
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was musician and UFO researcher
Tom DeLonge.
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PODESTA:
Tom DeLonge, who is most famous
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for his being the lead
in Blink-182.
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I've known Tom for a while,
and he spearheaded an initiative
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that's brought together a number
of scientists and others
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to both continue to study
the phenomena on the outside,
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in the private sector,
and to raise funds to do that.
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POPE:
His enthusiasm, his passion
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has driven things forward.
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A lot of people were saying,
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"What does a rock star
know about all this?"
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Let's not forget that sometimes
even people in government
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and military and
the intelligence community
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get a little more starstruck
than they should by celebrities.
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Tom DeLonge was able to use this
to leverage, I guess, access
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where others had
tried and failed.
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NARRATOR:
In October 2017,
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Tom DeLonge announced
the creation
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of his To The Stars Academy
of Arts & Science,
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an organization devoted
to the study of UFOs
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and the possible existence
of extraterrestrial activity
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here on Earth.
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When Elizondo left the Pentagon,
he was determined
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to bring AATIP's years of
investigation out of the shadows
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by releasing several
of the videos he had collected.
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One of them featured
this incredible encounter,
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taken by a fighter jet
in Florida in 2015,
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now known as the Gimbal video.
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NARRATOR:
On December 18, 2017,
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DeLonge and Elizondo revealed
a second shocking video
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which was released through
The Washington Post.
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This UFO had been tracked
by the USS Princeton
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for several days
over the Pacific Ocean,
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approximately 100 miles
southwest of San Diego.
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On the screen, it also says
the speed of the F-18
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is 250 knots, roughly
about 280 miles per hour.
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This F-18 can't seem
to get any closer
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to this vehicle, whatever it is.
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Now, the F-18's one of
the highest technology
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fighter crafts on the planet.
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And it can't catch this thing?
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When it darts offscreen
to the left,
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it would be going
extremely fast.
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The g-forces would
turn a person inside it
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into, like, tapioca pudding.
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I mean, it would kill them.
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NARRATOR:
In March 2018,
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a third Pentagon video entitled
"Go Fast" was released,
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and featured yet another
unexplained aerial encounter.
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(pilots laugh)
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NARRATOR: But perhaps
the most shocking information
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to come from Tom DeLonge
and his To The Stars Academy was
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Luis Elizondo's claim that
Bigelow Aerospace had modified
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its buildings for the storage
of strange metal alloys
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of unknown origin,
also known as metamaterials.
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Now, hold, stop the presses
right there.
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What are these metal alloys?
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POPE:
Luis Elizondo has referred
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to these as "meta materials."
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The implication is that they're
not special magical elements,
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or anything,
but they do seem to be
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materials that
have been studied.
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According to Elizondo,
tests have been run.
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The answer has come back:
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whatever these things were,
they came from space.
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PODESTA:
There was also indications
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that there were certain polymers
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that were discovered
at crash sites
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that were unexplained
and were reviewed.
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RICHARD DOLAN:
You know, for years and years,
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UFO researchers had talked about
crash retrievals of UFOs,
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or that elements
of these objects
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had been recovered
and were being studied.
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And skeptics would laugh
at these claims.
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You know, how ridiculous
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such conspiracy
paranoid fantasies were.
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Well, guess what.
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Now we have it confirmed.
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What are these materials?
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Are they of this Earth?
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Are they from an advanced
alien intelligence?
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Were these metals actually taken
from crashed UFOs?
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What are the sources
for these kinds of metals?
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These are the kind of questions
that we need to learn
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the answers to if we're gonna
get to the bottom
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of understanding what
the government knows about UFOs.
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NARRATOR: Is it possible that
the U. S. military has recovered
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crashed extraterrestrial
spacecraft,
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and that wreckage
from these aircraft
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is currently being stored
and studied
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by a top-secret team
at Bigelow Aerospace?
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TAYLOR: One of the really
interesting things about AATIP
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is how much information
hasn't been released.
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We hear things that are coming.
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There's this report
that was written
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that we're supposed to get
to see at some point.
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Haven't seen it yet.
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And then, are there more videos?
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We've seen, I think,
three videos come out
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that they've released.
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There has to be more.
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They were doing this for,
like, five years,
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or maybe even
a lot longer than that.
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I bet you there's a lot more.
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DAVID CHILDRESS:
Other secret military programs
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have been going on
for many, many decades.
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And it's really just the tip
of the iceberg.
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NARRATOR: Was the U. S.
government's AATIP program
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the only one to be investigating
extraterrestrial activity?
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And, if so, how was
it started, and why?
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And was the government
seriously concerned
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that such activity
was happening?
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Or was the bigger concern
that the public
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would find out about it?
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NARRATOR:
Washington, D. C., 2007.
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Senate Majority Leader
Harry Reid of Nevada
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summons Senator Daniel Inouye
from Hawaii
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and Alaska Senator Ted Stevens
to a secure room
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in the Capitol Building
for a secret meeting.
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He convinces them
to lend their support
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to fund a project
researching UFO reports
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in the interest
of national security--
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the Advanced Aviation Threat
Identification Program,
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or AATIP.
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Senator Reid was successful
in getting money
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into the Defense Department
budget
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to create a small office
to look at
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what the government knew,
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and to study some more recent
incidents that had occurred,
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and to delve into
the background,
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and to try to explain
what pilots who had encountered
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strange aerial phenomena
couldn't explain.
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NARRATOR:
Without any public debate,
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$22 million is allocated
for AATIP
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from a black money budget
that few people know about
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or can monitor.
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PODESTA: Much of it,
I think, was classified.
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Much of it was unclassified,
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but I think people didn't know
about the program.
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I'm very glad that my friend
Harry Reid decided
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that he would pursue this
and sought money for it.
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Senator Stevens was genuinely
interested in the topic.
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But none of them
went out and discussed it.
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NARRATOR: When later asked about
his support for the program,
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Senator Reid said that he was
inspired by his friend,
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retired former senator
and astronaut John Glenn.
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Glenn, the first American
astronaut to orbit the Earth,
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told Reid that he thought
that the federal government
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should be looking seriously
into UFOs.
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But there are some who believe
that Reid's support
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owes less to John Glenn
than to his friendship
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with one of the senator's
largest campaign contributors:
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Robert Bigelow, the founder
of Bigelow Aerospace.
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Robert Bigelow owned
a series of hotels,
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and he sold it
and made a lot of money.
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He decided then he wanted
to get into space exploration.
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He's fascinated by
extraterrestrials and UFOs.
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NASA was providing insight,
as opposed to oversight--
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which is an important
distinction there...
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NOORY: And his dear friend,
Senator Harry Reid of Nevada,
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was convinced by Robert Bigelow
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to get the government
to spend $22 million
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into this program
to investigate UFOs.
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MIKE BARA: It's not
a coincidence, to my mind,
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that he was involved in
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the Advanced Aerospace Threat
Identification Program.
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He builds rockets and planes
and who knows what else,
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and he seems like
a perfectly logical person
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to have been the point man
in the private sector
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for using the information that
was gleaned from that project,
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whatever it was, and we don't
know what a lot of it was
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because it's classified.
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NARRATOR:
At the time,
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the fact that much
of AATIP's research was
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outsourced to Bigelow Aerospace
made perfect sense.
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First of all, the company
already had a staff
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of highly qualified
aerospace engineers.
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And, secondly, an outside
company could operate
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without the kind
of public scrutiny
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imposed on
a government-based agency.
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Bigelow could operate
in total secrecy.
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Private companies aren't held to
the Freedom of Information Act.
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Private companies can do
whatever they want to
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with their funding, and
you can't go then and fill out
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a Freedom of Information Act
request.
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That's a way to keep things
more secretive.
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NARRATOR: But was the AATIP
program's need for secrecy
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merely designed
to keep its UFO findings
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independent of public scrutiny?
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Or was there
a greater interest in hiding
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not only what AATIP was finding,
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but also what those in charge
of the program were looking for?
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In May 2017,
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Robert Bigelow was the subject
of a profile
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on CBS's 60 Minutes.
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The piece was meant to focus
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on Bigelow's relationship
to NASA
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and his activities in creating
life-support habitats
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for future astronauts.
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During his interview,
Bigelow revealed to 60 Minutes
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that he was not only
an aerospace enthusiast,
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but a full-fledged believer
in extraterrestrials.
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Do you believe in aliens?
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I'm absolutely convinced.
That's all there is to it.
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Do you also believe
that UFOs have come to Earth?
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There has been and is
an existing presence--
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an E. T. presence.
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And I've spent millions
and millions.
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I've probably spent more
as an individual
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than anybody else
in the United States
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has ever spent on this subject.
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Is it risky for you to say,
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you know, in public
that you believe
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-in UFOs and aliens?
-I don't give a damn.
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-I don't care.
-You don't worry
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that some people will say,
"Did you hear that guy?
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He sounds like he's crazy."
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-I don't care.
-Why not?
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It's not gonna
make a difference.
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It's not gonna change reality
of what I know.
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Bob Bigelow said,
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"E.T.s are here.
They're right under your nose."
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And he uses the word "E. T."
He doesn't beat around the bush.
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BASSETT:
Robert Bigelow became my hero.
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That "I don't give a damn"
really was for a lot of people.
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It was for every billionaire
space jockey out there,
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whether it's Elon Musk
or Branson or Bezos.
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But guess what.
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None of those people
have ever said to a reporter,
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"You know, I'm pretty sure
there's extraterrestrials here."
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Bigelow did.
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LINDA MOULTON HOWE:
We must now go and ask the head
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of Bigelow Aerospace
what does he mean
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that aliens are
under everyone's noses.
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This story really is begging
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for somebody
to go to Robert Bigelow
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and say, "Can we now go
and see your warehouse?"
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What a fantastic next step
it would be for the world.
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NARRATOR: Although funding
for the AATIP program
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was quietly ended in 2012,
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there are those who believe
that its focus on the study
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of recent UFO activity
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and on the study
of extraterrestrial life
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are still alive and well,
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although now further hidden
under a different agency name.
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When the Pentagon
grudgingly admitted
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the existence
of the AATIP program,
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they did a clever thing,
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and they said that the funding
had run out in 2012.
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The implication was
that the program was no more,
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but with my knowledge of the way
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in which these classified
sensitive programs are run,
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pulling the funding part
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is not the same
as terminating the project.
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NARRATOR: But while some version
of the government's
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AATIP program may still be
operating in secret,
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the same cannot be said
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for some of the agency's
former employees.
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And there is one in particular
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who is not only open to the idea
that aliens do exist,
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he has made it his mission
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to communicate his findings
throughout the world.
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NARRATOR: When The New York
Times story broke,
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revealing the existence
of the U. S. government's
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ultra top secret AATIP program,
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UFO experts
and ancient astronaut theorists
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had validation
for what they knew
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had been happening for decades:
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that the government has proof
of extraterrestrial visitation
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and that they have been
hiding it from the public.
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TSOUKALOS:
The investigations were denied
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during the time
of their happening.
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And it's really curious
that we're always told,
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"No, these programs
are not happening."
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And then, 20 years later, these
documents are being released
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to reveal the fact that
these investigations did happen.
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My initial reaction
to the information
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that was released
in December of 2017
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was that this has really been
going on for over 70 years.
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NARRATOR: Although
the government's AATIP program
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was established in 2007,
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it was by no means
the first top secret program
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designed to investigate
UFO activity
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in the United States.
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The first was known simply
as Project Sign,
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and it was set up
within the U. S. Air Force
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to investigate
unexplained aerial phenomena,
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such as the event now known
as the Battle of Los Angeles.
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What's called the Battle of L. A.
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is actually one of the earliest
unexplained UFO mysteries
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in modern... our modern era.
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Three months after Pearl Harbor,
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it took place on the early
morning of February 25, 1942.
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An unknown object appeared
over Los Angeles
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and anti-aircraft guns
opened fire on it.
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(rapid gunfire)
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RADIO ANNOUNCER:
The anti-aircraft guns
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began barking during a blackout
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ordered by the IV Interceptor
Command at 2:25 a. m.
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1,430 artillery shells
were fired
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at several unknown objects.
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Many eyewitnesses
on the ground saw this.
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There was concern that the
Japanese were somehow involved,
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but there was no
Japanese aircraft carrier,
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no chance
that Japanese airplanes
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could have been
responsible for this.
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The Secretary of the Navy
said to the public,
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"It was just war nerves.
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There was nothing out there,
whatsoever."
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NARRATOR:
Although the U. S. Army Air Force
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officially dismissed
the objects seen in the sky
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as weather balloons,
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they failed to explain
why so many weather balloons
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would have been floating over
Los Angeles in the first place.
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In the years following
the Battle of Los Angeles,
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numerous other UFO sightings
were reported,
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including the one
widely referred to as
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"the Roswell incident,"
in which an unidentified object,
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referred to in the press
as a flying saucer,
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reportedly crashed on a ranch
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just outside the town
of Roswell, New Mexico,
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on July 4, 1947.
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Within 24 hours,
the story changed.
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And they said,
"We made a mistake.
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"It's not a flying disc.
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It's just debris
from a weather balloon."
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DOLAN:
The Roswell incident was
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probably a major contributor
to the establishment
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of what became known
as Project Sign
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just a couple of months later.
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NARRATOR:
By the time Project Sign
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was established in 1948,
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UFO sightings
had become so frequent,
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they could no longer
be ignored or dismissed.
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Given the fact that there was
a Cold War escalating
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between the United States
and the Soviet Union,
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concerns that UFOs
might be spy satellites
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or foreign-made weapons
gave some justification
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to the increasing paranoia.
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Answers needed to be found.
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But just as the government's
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first official UFO program
was getting started,
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it was suddenly
and mysteriously shut down.
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There was a very big incident
during the summer of 1948,
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when a report went to
the Air Force Chief of Staff,
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General Hoyt Vandenberg,
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and it stated,
"This is real. They're here."
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And Vandenberg closed down
Project Sign.
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NARRATOR: But why would
the Air Force Chief of Staff
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shut down a program
designed to study UFOs
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just after being informed
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that UFOs were not only real
but of genuine concern?
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There seems to be
a pattern of suppression
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over the last 70 years when
it comes to the UFO subject.
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And all of these government
investigations into UFOs,
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where they look into it,
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then they say
there's nothing to it.
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Then they look into it again,
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then they're finding
that there is something to it.
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But they don't want
to say what it is.
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NARRATOR:
For the next four years,
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UFO sightings continued
to be reported,
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so many, in fact,
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that the government could no
longer dismiss them as hoaxes,
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weather anomalies,
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or simply the product
of mass hysteria.
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By March 1952,
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a number of high-ranking
Air Force generals
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became so frustrated
with the military's
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previous attempts
to properly investigate
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so-called flying saucers
that they launched a program
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00:24:56,245 --> 00:24:59,581
that would be the most serious
and best-funded to date:
476
00:24:59,581 --> 00:25:02,292
Project Blue Book.
477
00:25:02,292 --> 00:25:05,587
Under the command of Air Force
Captain Edward Ruppelt,
478
00:25:05,587 --> 00:25:09,299
this new top secret agency
would take UFOs
479
00:25:09,299 --> 00:25:12,136
and their potential threat
to national security
480
00:25:12,136 --> 00:25:13,929
very seriously.
481
00:25:13,929 --> 00:25:18,350
Project Blue Book
produced a standard form
482
00:25:18,350 --> 00:25:21,145
for people who wanted
to report a UFO.
483
00:25:21,145 --> 00:25:24,189
What did it look like?
Was there a sound?
484
00:25:24,189 --> 00:25:28,152
They even had a chart
for people to calculate
485
00:25:28,152 --> 00:25:31,488
the angle of elevation.
486
00:25:31,488 --> 00:25:34,408
If UFOs are nothing
to worry about,
487
00:25:34,408 --> 00:25:38,829
why is the Air Force
requesting so much information
488
00:25:38,829 --> 00:25:41,540
about the true nature
of what the witnesses saw?
489
00:25:41,540 --> 00:25:45,544
NARRATOR:
In January 1953,
490
00:25:45,544 --> 00:25:48,422
after gathering hundreds
of reported sightings,
491
00:25:48,422 --> 00:25:50,883
photographs and interviews,
492
00:25:50,883 --> 00:25:54,636
Captain Ruppelt and astronomer
Dr. J. Allen Hynek
493
00:25:54,636 --> 00:25:57,598
prepared and presented
their best 23 cases
494
00:25:57,598 --> 00:26:00,851
to a CIA-formed panel
of scientists
495
00:26:00,851 --> 00:26:04,521
led by Dr. H. P. Robertson.
496
00:26:04,521 --> 00:26:06,648
The Robertson Panel concluded
497
00:26:06,648 --> 00:26:09,068
that the evidence
could all be dismissed
498
00:26:09,068 --> 00:26:11,028
as natural occurrences
499
00:26:11,028 --> 00:26:14,615
and was not worth the effort
of the government.
500
00:26:14,615 --> 00:26:17,451
And it was the Robertson Panel
which was the origin
501
00:26:17,451 --> 00:26:19,953
for a lot of the propaganda
that was put out in the media
502
00:26:19,953 --> 00:26:23,248
when it came to UFOs.
503
00:26:23,248 --> 00:26:25,167
They wanted to publicly
ridicule the subject,
504
00:26:25,167 --> 00:26:28,003
so that people wouldn't want
to be associated with it,
505
00:26:28,003 --> 00:26:30,339
basically killing
all the public interest
506
00:26:30,339 --> 00:26:32,966
in this field so they could
continue to research
507
00:26:32,966 --> 00:26:34,718
these exotic technologies
behind the scenes.
508
00:26:38,472 --> 00:26:40,974
NARRATOR:
In 1969,
509
00:26:40,974 --> 00:26:44,478
Project Blue Book
was finally shut down
510
00:26:44,478 --> 00:26:46,605
on the grounds
that there was no proof
511
00:26:46,605 --> 00:26:50,234
the unidentified objects posed
a national security threat
512
00:26:50,234 --> 00:26:53,570
or were of
extraterrestrial origin.
513
00:26:53,570 --> 00:26:56,448
But was that really
the end of the story
514
00:26:56,448 --> 00:26:59,076
or only the beginning?
515
00:27:01,328 --> 00:27:03,247
In February 2018,
516
00:27:03,247 --> 00:27:07,209
Nick Pope, the former
Director of Defence Security
517
00:27:07,209 --> 00:27:09,461
at the British
Ministry of Defence,
518
00:27:09,461 --> 00:27:13,841
traveled to Washington, D. C.,
to meet with Chase Kloetzke,
519
00:27:13,841 --> 00:27:16,677
a registered lobbyist
for UFO disclosure
520
00:27:16,677 --> 00:27:18,053
and a former program developer
521
00:27:18,053 --> 00:27:21,515
for the U. S.
Department of Defense.
522
00:27:21,515 --> 00:27:24,017
Chase Kloetzke has investigated
523
00:27:24,017 --> 00:27:27,479
numerous U. S. government
secret studies into UFOs
524
00:27:27,479 --> 00:27:30,858
and has examined many
of the once-classified files
525
00:27:30,858 --> 00:27:33,360
pertaining to Project Blue Book.
526
00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:37,865
I've got this Project Blue Book
file from the FBI archives.
527
00:27:37,865 --> 00:27:41,493
And the first page I want
to really go over with you
528
00:27:41,493 --> 00:27:46,248
is this one that indeed reads
"UFO fact sheet."
529
00:27:46,248 --> 00:27:49,543
Okay, so this is basically
a summary of the position
530
00:27:49,543 --> 00:27:51,128
with regard
to Project Blue Book.
531
00:27:51,128 --> 00:27:53,630
-Right, the official statement.
-Okay.
532
00:27:53,630 --> 00:27:55,424
And so, this says,
533
00:27:55,424 --> 00:27:58,135
"Since the termination
of Project Blue Book,
534
00:27:58,135 --> 00:28:00,762
"no evidence has been
presented to indicate
535
00:28:00,762 --> 00:28:02,973
"that further
investigation of UFOs
536
00:28:02,973 --> 00:28:04,516
by the Air Force is warranted."
537
00:28:04,516 --> 00:28:06,602
"Terminated."
538
00:28:06,602 --> 00:28:10,856
Well, was the program really
terminated? That's my question.
539
00:28:10,856 --> 00:28:14,151
Absolutely. And if it was,
what took its place?
540
00:28:14,151 --> 00:28:15,652
Well, yes, the Air Force
541
00:28:15,652 --> 00:28:18,322
isn't suddenly going to stop
being interested
542
00:28:18,322 --> 00:28:21,533
in uncorrelated targets
in its airspace.
543
00:28:21,533 --> 00:28:23,535
Right, absolutely.
And the second document,
544
00:28:23,535 --> 00:28:25,454
I really want you
to weigh in on.
545
00:28:25,454 --> 00:28:26,747
It doesn't make sense.
546
00:28:26,747 --> 00:28:30,000
POPE:
Wow. 12,618 sightings.
547
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,501
That's a lot.
548
00:28:31,501 --> 00:28:36,256
And 701 of them remained
completely unidentified.
549
00:28:36,256 --> 00:28:37,716
That's a staggering amount.
550
00:28:37,716 --> 00:28:41,637
These are the cases
that were properly investigated,
551
00:28:41,637 --> 00:28:45,891
interviewed witnesses,
radar tapes were looked at,
552
00:28:45,891 --> 00:28:48,435
and still no answers found.
553
00:28:48,435 --> 00:28:52,022
Wait a minute.
Here, look. Here it is.
554
00:28:52,022 --> 00:28:55,484
At the end of the program,
the unknowns drop.
555
00:28:55,484 --> 00:29:00,822
They go from 32 to 19
to three and one.
556
00:29:00,822 --> 00:29:04,201
I smell a rat.
They've cooked the books.
557
00:29:04,201 --> 00:29:07,371
-They can't pull the plug
on the program...
-Right.
558
00:29:07,371 --> 00:29:09,498
...if you've still got
a high number of unknowns.
559
00:29:09,498 --> 00:29:12,125
So they clearly
pushed those cases
560
00:29:12,125 --> 00:29:14,711
out of the unidentified column
561
00:29:14,711 --> 00:29:18,048
and into the cases that are
explained, at least publicly.
562
00:29:18,048 --> 00:29:20,008
This is their way out.
563
00:29:23,095 --> 00:29:26,056
NARRATOR: Was Project Blue Book
officially shut down
564
00:29:26,056 --> 00:29:28,517
because it had simply found
no convincing evidence
565
00:29:28,517 --> 00:29:30,602
that UFOs were real?
566
00:29:30,602 --> 00:29:33,146
Or was it because the government
567
00:29:33,146 --> 00:29:35,482
had come to
the opposite conclusion,
568
00:29:35,482 --> 00:29:40,904
that not only were they real
but of extraterrestrial origin,
569
00:29:40,904 --> 00:29:44,908
a truth that could be
so potentially disturbing,
570
00:29:44,908 --> 00:29:48,620
it needed to be covered up
even deeper than before?
571
00:29:54,626 --> 00:29:56,753
NARRATOR:
As far as UFO researchers
572
00:29:56,753 --> 00:29:59,464
and ancient astronaut
theorists are concerned,
573
00:29:59,464 --> 00:30:02,759
proof that the U. S. government
has not only known
574
00:30:02,759 --> 00:30:05,637
about extraterrestrial activity
on our planet,
575
00:30:05,637 --> 00:30:08,640
but has been systematically
covering it up for decades,
576
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,517
first came in the form
577
00:30:10,517 --> 00:30:13,770
of a single roll
of 35-millimeter film,
578
00:30:13,770 --> 00:30:16,606
anonymously sent
to a documentary filmmaker
579
00:30:16,606 --> 00:30:21,069
by the name of
Jaime Shandera in 1984.
580
00:30:22,404 --> 00:30:24,448
The film, when developed,
581
00:30:24,448 --> 00:30:26,742
showed images
of an eight-page memo
582
00:30:26,742 --> 00:30:29,619
allegedly written in 1952
583
00:30:29,619 --> 00:30:33,790
by the first director of
the CIA, Roscoe Hillenkoetter,
584
00:30:33,790 --> 00:30:36,960
to President-elect
Dwight Eisenhower.
585
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,797
In it, Hillenkoetter
informs Eisenhower
586
00:30:40,797 --> 00:30:44,051
of the existence of a top secret
government think tank
587
00:30:44,051 --> 00:30:45,927
that was originally set up
588
00:30:45,927 --> 00:30:49,514
by President Harry S. Truman
in 1947.
589
00:30:49,514 --> 00:30:53,852
It was referred to
in the memo as MJ-12,
590
00:30:53,852 --> 00:30:57,773
initials which stood for a far
more mysterious group of men
591
00:30:57,773 --> 00:31:00,609
known as the Majestic 12.
592
00:31:00,609 --> 00:31:03,445
The authorization
to establish MJ-12
593
00:31:03,445 --> 00:31:05,906
allegedly came from
President Harry Truman
594
00:31:05,906 --> 00:31:08,700
on September 24, 1947.
595
00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:13,830
This was actually one day
after the famous memo
596
00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:16,249
in which
General Nathan Twining wrote
597
00:31:16,249 --> 00:31:17,918
a three-page letter
about these flying saucers
598
00:31:17,918 --> 00:31:19,628
to another general,
599
00:31:19,628 --> 00:31:22,756
talking quite explicitly
about their characteristics,
600
00:31:22,756 --> 00:31:25,842
the fact that this was real,
not visionary or fictitious.
601
00:31:25,842 --> 00:31:30,138
No one anywhere,
outside of this group,
602
00:31:30,138 --> 00:31:33,433
is to know anything about UFOs,
603
00:31:33,433 --> 00:31:36,353
E.T.s, crash retrievals,
604
00:31:36,353 --> 00:31:38,188
bodies, any of it.
605
00:31:40,982 --> 00:31:43,110
That document identified
the 12 people
606
00:31:43,110 --> 00:31:45,570
who were MJ-1 through MJ-12.
607
00:31:45,570 --> 00:31:47,656
The first one, MJ-1,
608
00:31:47,656 --> 00:31:50,450
was Admiral Hillenkoetter
of the Navy.
609
00:31:50,450 --> 00:31:52,786
There were four military people,
610
00:31:52,786 --> 00:31:54,704
there were
four technical people,
611
00:31:54,704 --> 00:31:58,208
and then there were
just general government people.
612
00:31:58,208 --> 00:32:00,085
They were the kind of people
you'd expect
613
00:32:00,085 --> 00:32:03,046
to have been involved in
an important top secret program.
614
00:32:03,046 --> 00:32:05,549
NARRATOR:
While the authenticity
615
00:32:05,549 --> 00:32:08,677
of the MJ-12 documents
is still being debated,
616
00:32:08,677 --> 00:32:10,762
what is known is that,
617
00:32:10,762 --> 00:32:15,225
in 1954, Eisenhower thought
enough of the UFO phenomenon
618
00:32:15,225 --> 00:32:19,855
to order that a new
secret military base be set up.
619
00:32:19,855 --> 00:32:24,860
Located 83 miles northwest
of Las Vegas, Nevada,
620
00:32:24,860 --> 00:32:27,612
Area 51 would later
become infamous
621
00:32:27,612 --> 00:32:31,867
as the most top secret
military base in the world.
622
00:32:31,867 --> 00:32:36,746
BARA: Area 51 is the secret base
of all secret bases.
623
00:32:36,746 --> 00:32:39,457
For a long time,
it was the place
624
00:32:39,457 --> 00:32:43,712
that we went to
to study foreign technology.
625
00:32:43,712 --> 00:32:46,590
NARRATOR:
During the 1970s and '80s,
626
00:32:46,590 --> 00:32:49,426
T.D. Barnes worked
at the secret base,
627
00:32:49,426 --> 00:32:52,304
reverse-engineering
captured enemy aircraft,
628
00:32:52,304 --> 00:32:54,764
like Russian MiG jets.
629
00:32:54,764 --> 00:32:57,142
What we considered
reverse-engineering was...
630
00:32:57,142 --> 00:33:00,478
was taking a plane or a radar,
631
00:33:00,478 --> 00:33:02,397
taking it apart,
looking at the electronics,
632
00:33:02,397 --> 00:33:04,065
how they built it.
633
00:33:04,065 --> 00:33:06,318
We were all bound
by security oaths.
634
00:33:06,318 --> 00:33:07,777
We could not talk.
635
00:33:07,777 --> 00:33:09,821
NARRATOR:
But is it possible that,
636
00:33:09,821 --> 00:33:11,531
in addition
to reverse-engineering
637
00:33:11,531 --> 00:33:13,450
foreign fighter jets,
638
00:33:13,450 --> 00:33:16,786
Area 51 employees
were also working on other,
639
00:33:16,786 --> 00:33:20,081
out-of-this-world technologies?
640
00:33:20,081 --> 00:33:23,043
BARA: To my mind, it's also
clear that the U. S. government
641
00:33:23,043 --> 00:33:26,796
has had crashed
extraterrestrial technology,
642
00:33:26,796 --> 00:33:29,841
and Area 51 would have been
the perfect place
643
00:33:29,841 --> 00:33:33,678
to reverse-engineer and test
that particular information.
644
00:33:33,678 --> 00:33:36,056
NARRATOR: In order
to insure that the activities
645
00:33:36,056 --> 00:33:39,851
at Area 51 and elsewhere were
kept hidden from the public,
646
00:33:39,851 --> 00:33:42,229
members of the military,
and even officers,
647
00:33:42,229 --> 00:33:44,940
were sworn to secrecy.
648
00:33:44,940 --> 00:33:48,735
But luckily for UFO researchers
and ancient astronaut theorists,
649
00:33:48,735 --> 00:33:52,405
not everyone involved
was willing to keep quiet.
650
00:33:52,405 --> 00:33:54,908
Some became whistleblowers,
651
00:33:54,908 --> 00:33:57,911
who risked everything from
public scorn to imprisonment,
652
00:33:57,911 --> 00:34:01,456
in order to let the public
learn the truth.
653
00:34:03,833 --> 00:34:05,794
Washington state.
654
00:34:05,794 --> 00:34:08,463
June 24, 1947.
655
00:34:10,006 --> 00:34:12,676
Aviator and businessman
Kenneth Arnold
656
00:34:12,676 --> 00:34:15,136
witnesses
nine fast-moving objects
657
00:34:15,136 --> 00:34:18,265
flying in tandem
near Mount Rainier.
658
00:34:18,265 --> 00:34:21,893
He times them as they fly
between two mountain peaks,
659
00:34:21,893 --> 00:34:23,478
and calculates their speed
660
00:34:23,478 --> 00:34:27,857
to be between
1,200 and 1,700 miles per hour,
661
00:34:27,857 --> 00:34:30,944
at least
600 miles per hour faster
662
00:34:30,944 --> 00:34:35,031
than the fastest aircraft
in existence at the time.
663
00:34:35,031 --> 00:34:38,076
Kenneth Arnold is the guy
who actually is credited
664
00:34:38,076 --> 00:34:40,412
with coining the term
"flying saucer,"
665
00:34:40,412 --> 00:34:43,498
because what he saw
were objects that were flying
666
00:34:43,498 --> 00:34:45,750
at some distance
from his airplane
667
00:34:45,750 --> 00:34:48,837
that were sort of skipping
and jumping and wobbling
668
00:34:48,837 --> 00:34:51,381
and doing very, very unusual
high-speed maneuvers.
669
00:34:51,381 --> 00:34:54,175
So that's where the term
"flying saucer" came from.
670
00:34:54,175 --> 00:34:57,345
NARRATOR: Although the U. S.
Air Force formally categorized
671
00:34:57,345 --> 00:35:00,473
Kenneth Arnold's experience
as a mirage,
672
00:35:00,473 --> 00:35:04,519
other reported sightings
were not so easily dismissed.
673
00:35:04,519 --> 00:35:08,148
The public was starting
to demand answers.
674
00:35:08,148 --> 00:35:10,358
Once the initial sighting
happened by Kenneth Arnold,
675
00:35:10,358 --> 00:35:13,612
and the Roswell incident
took place,
676
00:35:13,612 --> 00:35:17,240
there were sightings everywhere
around the United States.
677
00:35:17,240 --> 00:35:19,576
They were happening
all over the world.
678
00:35:21,995 --> 00:35:24,456
NARRATOR:
In 1949,
679
00:35:24,456 --> 00:35:27,000
retired Marine Corps
pilot-turned-writer
680
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,920
Major Donald Keyhoe
was asked by True magazine
681
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,341
to write an article
on these numerous sightings.
682
00:35:34,341 --> 00:35:36,968
Although Keyhoe was a skeptic,
683
00:35:36,968 --> 00:35:39,763
he spent the next eight months
conducting his own research
684
00:35:39,763 --> 00:35:42,057
by tapping into his contacts
in the Pentagon
685
00:35:42,057 --> 00:35:44,351
and the military.
686
00:35:44,351 --> 00:35:46,853
Eventually,
he came to a conclusion
687
00:35:46,853 --> 00:35:49,564
he would have considered
unthinkable:
688
00:35:49,564 --> 00:35:52,734
flying saucers
were not only real,
689
00:35:52,734 --> 00:35:56,863
they were of
extraterrestrial origin.
690
00:35:56,863 --> 00:35:58,907
HOWE:
Major Keyhoe
691
00:35:58,907 --> 00:36:02,661
was one of the last real
military voices,
692
00:36:02,661 --> 00:36:05,163
from the time of
the Truman administration
693
00:36:05,163 --> 00:36:07,374
going into
the Eisenhower administration,
694
00:36:07,374 --> 00:36:12,837
who was honestly trying
to tell the truth.
695
00:36:12,837 --> 00:36:16,633
NARRATOR: Keyhoe's article in
True magazine shook the nation.
696
00:36:16,633 --> 00:36:19,386
It was not only
a solid piece of journalism
697
00:36:19,386 --> 00:36:22,597
on the topic of UFOs,
698
00:36:22,597 --> 00:36:24,557
but served as
a stinging indictment
699
00:36:24,557 --> 00:36:27,394
of the U. S. military and
the government's determination
700
00:36:27,394 --> 00:36:30,438
to keep the public in the dark.
701
00:36:30,438 --> 00:36:34,484
HOWE: That True magazine,
it was historic because
702
00:36:34,484 --> 00:36:36,820
it went to a heck
of a lot of people.
703
00:36:36,820 --> 00:36:39,322
Then, in 1958,
Keyhoe went on a program
704
00:36:39,322 --> 00:36:41,116
called the
Armstrong Circle Theatre,
705
00:36:41,116 --> 00:36:42,826
which was
a live television program.
706
00:36:42,826 --> 00:36:46,162
ANNOUNCER:
"UFO: The Enigma of the Skies"
707
00:36:46,162 --> 00:36:49,624
on the Armstrong Circle Theatre.
708
00:36:49,624 --> 00:36:53,002
Major, you've seen our report
on the Air Force conclusions
709
00:36:53,002 --> 00:36:55,046
dealing with the current
UFO sightings.
710
00:36:56,798 --> 00:36:58,591
Well, I was excited to hear that
711
00:36:58,591 --> 00:37:01,428
Keyhoe was going to
debate the Air Force.
712
00:37:01,428 --> 00:37:04,514
And now, Mr. Edwards, I would
like to make a disclosure,
713
00:37:04,514 --> 00:37:07,267
something which has never
been revealed to the public.
714
00:37:07,267 --> 00:37:10,478
Toward the end of the program,
he broke in and said,
715
00:37:10,478 --> 00:37:13,481
to the effect,
"I'm going to say something
716
00:37:13,481 --> 00:37:15,483
that the public
has never heard before."
717
00:37:15,483 --> 00:37:17,986
If the hearings are held,
open hearings,
718
00:37:17,986 --> 00:37:20,864
I feel it will prove beyond
doubt that flying saucers...
719
00:37:20,864 --> 00:37:23,575
(audio fades)
720
00:37:23,575 --> 00:37:27,245
HOLCOMBE: At that point,
his sound was lost.
721
00:37:27,245 --> 00:37:32,250
What was Major Keyhoe saying,
and who cut him off?
722
00:37:32,250 --> 00:37:34,335
(no audio)
723
00:37:34,335 --> 00:37:35,420
Thank you, Major Keyhoe.
724
00:37:35,420 --> 00:37:37,964
NARRATOR:
It was later discovered
725
00:37:37,964 --> 00:37:40,091
that Air Force officials
had been stationed
726
00:37:40,091 --> 00:37:42,844
in the control booth
during the broadcast.
727
00:37:42,844 --> 00:37:45,430
And there are many who still
believe that Keyhoe's audio
728
00:37:45,430 --> 00:37:49,184
was deliberately cut in order
to keep him from revealing
729
00:37:49,184 --> 00:37:52,771
top secret information
concerning the government's
730
00:37:52,771 --> 00:37:54,147
ongoing UFO investigations.
731
00:37:55,899 --> 00:37:57,859
The Air Force was lying.
732
00:38:00,069 --> 00:38:03,239
NARRATOR: But why was the
Air Force so concerned about
733
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,284
the American public hearing
Major Keyhoe's statement?
734
00:38:06,284 --> 00:38:09,954
What did they have to lose
if they were forced to admit
735
00:38:09,954 --> 00:38:13,833
their ongoing investigations
into UFOs?
736
00:38:13,833 --> 00:38:15,794
I wrote this down
because I think
737
00:38:15,794 --> 00:38:18,713
it's one of the most important
historic sentences,
738
00:38:18,713 --> 00:38:21,257
and it comes from Major Keyhoe.
739
00:38:21,257 --> 00:38:25,845
"For the past 175 years..."
740
00:38:25,845 --> 00:38:28,723
That would be 1772.
741
00:38:28,723 --> 00:38:32,227
That would be before the
founding of the United States.
742
00:38:32,227 --> 00:38:36,856
"...the planet Earth
has been under systematic,
743
00:38:36,856 --> 00:38:40,735
"close-range examination by
744
00:38:40,735 --> 00:38:45,448
living observers
from another planet."
745
00:38:46,950 --> 00:38:49,577
TSOUKALOS:
This is nothing new.
746
00:38:49,577 --> 00:38:51,162
These cover-ups have happened
747
00:38:51,162 --> 00:38:53,498
for thousands and thousands
of years.
748
00:38:53,498 --> 00:38:56,668
Throughout ancient texts,
there are references
749
00:38:56,668 --> 00:39:00,213
to what I call
"misunderstood technology."
750
00:39:00,213 --> 00:39:02,799
WHITEHEAD:
In modern times,
751
00:39:02,799 --> 00:39:06,010
you'll hear stories
of UFOs and spacecraft,
752
00:39:06,010 --> 00:39:08,680
because now we have the language
to talk about technology.
753
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,474
Whereas in ancient times,
they didn't have any reference
754
00:39:11,474 --> 00:39:13,726
to that kind of technology.
755
00:39:13,726 --> 00:39:15,687
So they would have thought
this is something
756
00:39:15,687 --> 00:39:18,898
that's angelic or from
another dimension or god-like.
757
00:39:18,898 --> 00:39:20,775
(deep whirring)
758
00:39:20,775 --> 00:39:24,445
The fact that the U. S.
government has investigated
759
00:39:24,445 --> 00:39:27,240
thousands and thousands
of reports
760
00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:30,285
leads me to think that
761
00:39:30,285 --> 00:39:35,039
they may know much more
than what they let us believe.
762
00:39:42,589 --> 00:39:45,216
NARRATOR: Proof of
the U. S. government's complicity
763
00:39:45,216 --> 00:39:47,886
in covering up
extraterrestrial activity
764
00:39:47,886 --> 00:39:50,847
does not only come
in the form of leaked documents
765
00:39:50,847 --> 00:39:53,558
and the contents
of secret files.
766
00:39:53,558 --> 00:39:56,811
Sometimes the evidence comes
767
00:39:56,811 --> 00:39:59,856
from credible
firsthand accounts,
768
00:39:59,856 --> 00:40:05,111
not from whistleblowers,
but from American astronauts.
769
00:40:05,111 --> 00:40:08,615
Everything that NASA does
is supposedly aboveboard.
770
00:40:08,615 --> 00:40:11,868
Everything they do,
they should tell us about.
771
00:40:11,868 --> 00:40:14,245
We should know about
all of their launches
772
00:40:14,245 --> 00:40:17,874
and missions and who
all the astronauts are.
773
00:40:17,874 --> 00:40:21,044
They themselves are not sharing
all of the information.
774
00:40:21,044 --> 00:40:23,588
Most of it is being kept secret.
775
00:40:31,971 --> 00:40:34,766
NARRATOR:
The Baikonur Cosmodrome.
776
00:40:34,766 --> 00:40:38,603
April 12, 1961.
777
00:40:38,603 --> 00:40:42,690
The Vostok-1 rocket
achieves liftoff,
778
00:40:42,690 --> 00:40:45,902
and Soviet cosmonaut
Yuri Gagarin
779
00:40:45,902 --> 00:40:48,446
is heralded
as the first human in space.
780
00:40:49,948 --> 00:40:51,950
The event serves
as a wake-up call
781
00:40:51,950 --> 00:40:54,661
to the United States and NASA,
782
00:40:54,661 --> 00:40:58,790
whose Project Mercury program
would, over the next two years,
783
00:40:58,790 --> 00:41:01,626
launch six of its own astronauts
into space.
784
00:41:01,626 --> 00:41:03,753
The Space Race--
785
00:41:03,753 --> 00:41:06,631
to land a human being
on the Moon-- was on,
786
00:41:06,631 --> 00:41:10,468
and mankind was now
a space-faring species.
787
00:41:10,468 --> 00:41:13,304
BARA: The achievement
of putting a man in space
788
00:41:13,304 --> 00:41:15,306
was almost a miracle.
789
00:41:15,306 --> 00:41:19,602
Nobody knows what they might see
or encounter out there,
790
00:41:19,602 --> 00:41:22,981
extraterrestrial spacecraft
or even E. T. s themselves.
791
00:41:22,981 --> 00:41:24,273
MAN:
Liftoff.
792
00:41:24,273 --> 00:41:25,733
NARRATOR:
Although the first five
793
00:41:25,733 --> 00:41:27,276
Mercury missions
go off without incident...
794
00:41:27,276 --> 00:41:29,862
MAN: Liftoff
30 minutes after the hour.
795
00:41:29,862 --> 00:41:32,365
NARRATOR: ...during
the sixth and final mission,
796
00:41:32,365 --> 00:41:36,452
astronaut Gordon Cooper reports
an unusual encounter.
797
00:41:36,452 --> 00:41:40,206
While aboard his spacecraft,
he reports
798
00:41:40,206 --> 00:41:43,835
a green glowing object
quickly approaching his capsule.
799
00:41:43,835 --> 00:41:47,463
The UFO is also picked up
by NASA's tracking station.
800
00:41:47,463 --> 00:41:51,134
But by the time
Cooper splashes down
801
00:41:51,134 --> 00:41:55,013
in the Pacific Ocean,
reporters are told
802
00:41:55,013 --> 00:41:58,891
that any questions about the
incident are strictly forbidden.
803
00:41:58,891 --> 00:42:03,062
There's no question that NASA
actually has protocols in place
804
00:42:03,062 --> 00:42:06,274
for how astronauts
should deal with
805
00:42:06,274 --> 00:42:09,235
and report or not report
anomalies.
806
00:42:09,235 --> 00:42:12,321
Now, over the years,
there have been astronauts
807
00:42:12,321 --> 00:42:14,282
that have kind of
broken those protocols.
808
00:42:14,282 --> 00:42:17,493
Gordon Cooper is one who talked
a lot about a UFO sighting
809
00:42:17,493 --> 00:42:20,038
he had on a Mercury spacecraft.
810
00:42:20,038 --> 00:42:22,665
And that upset
quite a few people at NASA.
811
00:42:24,292 --> 00:42:27,503
NARRATOR:
In June 1965,
812
00:42:27,503 --> 00:42:30,298
two years after
Gordon Cooper's flight,
813
00:42:30,298 --> 00:42:33,968
Gemini 4 astronaut
James McDivitt
814
00:42:33,968 --> 00:42:36,429
reports seeing a metallic object
815
00:42:36,429 --> 00:42:39,891
flying in orbit
alongside his spacecraft.
816
00:42:39,891 --> 00:42:44,604
And, once again,
the event is quickly covered up.
817
00:42:44,604 --> 00:42:46,856
There have been many stories
over the years
818
00:42:46,856 --> 00:42:48,816
coming from astronauts
of various missions,
819
00:42:48,816 --> 00:42:50,902
from Mercury missions,
from the Apollo missions,
820
00:42:50,902 --> 00:42:53,905
and even from
the Soviet missions to space,
821
00:42:53,905 --> 00:42:55,531
where astronauts
have come out and said
822
00:42:55,531 --> 00:42:57,533
that they have seen
these UFOs flying around,
823
00:42:57,533 --> 00:42:59,160
that they've been followed,
824
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:00,828
that they've seen
unconventional aircraft
825
00:43:00,828 --> 00:43:02,497
on some of their missions.
826
00:43:02,497 --> 00:43:05,124
BARA: There's a story
that Buzz Aldrin tells
827
00:43:05,124 --> 00:43:07,794
about Apollo 11, where
the Apollo 11 spacecraft
828
00:43:07,794 --> 00:43:11,172
was followed for many,
many hours by an object
829
00:43:11,172 --> 00:43:13,424
that was so strange that
they actually reported on it
830
00:43:13,424 --> 00:43:15,218
through their private channels.
831
00:43:15,218 --> 00:43:18,471
BUZZ ALDRIN: I'm looking
out the window, and I see...
832
00:43:18,471 --> 00:43:20,765
What's that?
833
00:43:20,765 --> 00:43:25,019
There's an object that's moving
with respect to everything else.
834
00:43:25,019 --> 00:43:27,313
Geez. It's not supposed
to be doing that.
835
00:43:27,313 --> 00:43:28,815
Wonder how far away it is.
836
00:43:31,067 --> 00:43:34,570
If it's a long ways away,
it's going mighty fast.
837
00:43:34,570 --> 00:43:38,825
If it's not too far away, it,
uh, maybe isn't going very fast.
838
00:43:38,825 --> 00:43:41,786
Wonder what it is.
839
00:43:41,786 --> 00:43:43,746
"Hey, Neil. Look at this."
840
00:43:43,746 --> 00:43:45,039
We look at it.
841
00:43:45,039 --> 00:43:47,208
God, what is that?
842
00:43:47,208 --> 00:43:51,754
Probably the, uh,
upper stage rocket.
843
00:43:51,754 --> 00:43:55,174
Yeah, but didn't we just watch
that thing carefully
844
00:43:55,174 --> 00:43:58,052
out in front of us,
out the window,
845
00:43:58,052 --> 00:44:01,639
light its engine and go...
(imitates whooshing)
846
00:44:01,639 --> 00:44:04,642
Well, I guess that's not what
we're looking at, (chuckles)
847
00:44:04,642 --> 00:44:06,352
'cause that's a long ways away.
848
00:44:06,352 --> 00:44:10,523
What's the odds
that it's some alien
849
00:44:10,523 --> 00:44:12,817
or Russian or something else?
850
00:44:12,817 --> 00:44:17,113
But we were not about
to cancel the Moon mission
851
00:44:17,113 --> 00:44:20,032
and putt-putt over there
to find out which one it was.
852
00:44:20,032 --> 00:44:21,659
(chuckles)
853
00:44:21,659 --> 00:44:23,661
WHITEHEAD:
There's been many astronauts
854
00:44:23,661 --> 00:44:26,372
that have come forward
that have talked about this,
855
00:44:26,372 --> 00:44:29,375
so it seems like some of them
want to talk about it,
856
00:44:29,375 --> 00:44:32,128
and others are either afraid
to talk about it,
857
00:44:32,128 --> 00:44:34,380
or they've been silenced
for some reason.
858
00:44:34,380 --> 00:44:38,885
NARRATOR: One person involved
with the early space program
859
00:44:38,885 --> 00:44:42,513
who did not remain silent
was JoAnn Donaldson,
860
00:44:42,513 --> 00:44:45,308
a young biomedical engineer
at NASA.
861
00:44:45,308 --> 00:44:48,394
In 1972,
862
00:44:48,394 --> 00:44:51,439
during the Apollo 17
Moon mission,
863
00:44:51,439 --> 00:44:55,109
Donaldson's job was to monitor
the astronauts' vital signs
864
00:44:55,109 --> 00:44:59,197
and to observe their pre-flight
and post-flight recovery.
865
00:44:59,197 --> 00:45:02,491
JoANN DONALDSON: Ron Evans was
in charge of the command module
866
00:45:02,491 --> 00:45:04,619
while Gene Cernan
and Harrison Schmitt
867
00:45:04,619 --> 00:45:06,746
were on the surface of the Moon.
868
00:45:06,746 --> 00:45:09,957
When the command module
would orbit the Moon,
869
00:45:09,957 --> 00:45:12,877
part of the orbit would take it
behind the Moon,
870
00:45:12,877 --> 00:45:16,881
what we call "loss of signal"
to Mission Control.
871
00:45:16,881 --> 00:45:20,843
Day two, Ron came out
from behind the Moon,
872
00:45:20,843 --> 00:45:24,013
reported in to Mission Control.
873
00:45:24,013 --> 00:45:26,682
And Gene comes up
on the comm link and says,
874
00:45:26,682 --> 00:45:30,311
"Hey, Ron, you're not lonely
up there without us are you?"
875
00:45:30,311 --> 00:45:34,273
And Ron reported back, says,
"Nope, I got company."
876
00:45:34,273 --> 00:45:36,776
Everybody was just
kind of taken aback.
877
00:45:36,776 --> 00:45:39,862
It was like, you know,
"company"?
878
00:45:39,862 --> 00:45:43,157
That itself implies
that there was something else
879
00:45:43,157 --> 00:45:45,284
up there with him.
880
00:45:45,284 --> 00:45:48,621
Well, Mission Control's
first reaction was,
881
00:45:48,621 --> 00:45:50,289
"Guys, are you joking?"
882
00:45:50,289 --> 00:45:53,167
And Ron says,
"No, this is not a joke.
883
00:45:53,167 --> 00:45:57,672
"There is an object flying
in formation with me,
884
00:45:57,672 --> 00:46:00,007
up here, circling the Moon."
885
00:46:00,007 --> 00:46:04,428
When Ron reported that the
object was leaving his orbit,
886
00:46:04,428 --> 00:46:07,390
he calculated that they had been
in formation with him
887
00:46:07,390 --> 00:46:09,308
for approximately five
888
00:46:09,308 --> 00:46:12,228
to five-and-a-half orbits
of the Moon.
889
00:46:12,228 --> 00:46:15,314
NARRATOR: As far as
the public was concerned,
890
00:46:15,314 --> 00:46:18,192
nothing out of
the ordinary happened.
891
00:46:18,192 --> 00:46:21,112
At the exact moment
that astronaut Ron Evans
892
00:46:21,112 --> 00:46:23,489
reported he was not alone,
893
00:46:23,489 --> 00:46:27,994
NASA officials disconnected the
public feed for media outlets.
894
00:46:30,371 --> 00:46:32,498
The following day, NASA ordered
895
00:46:32,498 --> 00:46:36,085
a conference call for everyone
involved in the incident.
896
00:46:36,085 --> 00:46:38,754
DONALDSON: We were all told
we're gonna continue on
897
00:46:38,754 --> 00:46:42,508
with the mission
as if nothing has happened,
898
00:46:42,508 --> 00:46:45,386
and do not discuss this anomaly
899
00:46:45,386 --> 00:46:50,099
with anyone outside
of your command.
900
00:46:50,099 --> 00:46:54,478
NARRATOR: After the Apollo 17
crew splashed down
901
00:46:54,478 --> 00:46:58,816
in the Pacific Ocean,
JoAnn Donaldson examined Evans
902
00:46:58,816 --> 00:47:01,652
as part of the post-mission
recovery procedure.
903
00:47:01,652 --> 00:47:05,573
DONALDSON: Ron was sitting up
on the side of his bunk.
904
00:47:05,573 --> 00:47:09,201
And he goes,
"Well, I'm reliving
905
00:47:09,201 --> 00:47:12,121
"what I saw while I was
in orbit around the Moon.
906
00:47:12,121 --> 00:47:14,165
"I don't think
the Russians had launched
907
00:47:14,165 --> 00:47:16,500
"something this big in orbit.
908
00:47:16,500 --> 00:47:19,170
"I estimate this thing
was 40, 45 feet long.
909
00:47:19,170 --> 00:47:21,130
It was cigar shaped."
910
00:47:21,130 --> 00:47:23,507
BARA: Now, any cylindrical
object like that
911
00:47:23,507 --> 00:47:26,302
is not gonna be something
that we made. So what was it?
912
00:47:26,302 --> 00:47:29,472
Clearly it was not one of ours.
913
00:47:29,472 --> 00:47:31,098
WHITEHEAD:
We trust these astronauts
914
00:47:31,098 --> 00:47:33,267
to report back on what they see.
915
00:47:33,267 --> 00:47:34,518
They're essentially scientists
916
00:47:34,518 --> 00:47:35,978
that are exploring space
on our behalf.
917
00:47:35,978 --> 00:47:38,647
But a lot of people
are unaware of the fact
918
00:47:38,647 --> 00:47:41,400
that many of our astronauts
have spoken openly about UFOs.
919
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,488
Many of them were fighter pilots
before they became astronauts,
920
00:47:45,488 --> 00:47:49,033
and they have seen
craft flying as pilots.
921
00:47:49,033 --> 00:47:51,285
Could it be that they've been
pulled aside and told,
922
00:47:51,285 --> 00:47:54,205
"This is all you're allowed
to say and no more,"
923
00:47:54,205 --> 00:47:56,290
because NASA
is trying to silence
924
00:47:56,290 --> 00:47:57,958
these astronauts
from telling the truth?
925
00:48:01,629 --> 00:48:03,506
NARRATOR:
Another Apollo astronaut
926
00:48:03,506 --> 00:48:06,634
who openly admitted his belief
in extraterrestrial contact
927
00:48:06,634 --> 00:48:08,761
was Edgar Mitchell,
928
00:48:08,761 --> 00:48:11,597
the lunar module pilot
for Apollo 14.
929
00:48:11,597 --> 00:48:15,142
In his later years, he claimed
many of his colleagues
930
00:48:15,142 --> 00:48:17,770
had strange
paranormal experiences
931
00:48:17,770 --> 00:48:21,148
during their missions,
and frequently declared
932
00:48:21,148 --> 00:48:24,235
that most UFO phenomena
are directly connected
933
00:48:24,235 --> 00:48:27,363
to extraterrestrial activity.
934
00:48:27,363 --> 00:48:31,534
EDGAR MITCHELL: I have had no
firsthand personal experience,
935
00:48:31,534 --> 00:48:34,787
but all the evidence from
the research people that I know
936
00:48:34,787 --> 00:48:37,331
from both Europe
and the United States
937
00:48:37,331 --> 00:48:40,042
have investigated
all the sightings
938
00:48:40,042 --> 00:48:43,045
from dozens of years.
939
00:48:43,045 --> 00:48:45,589
And it's pretty sure
it's all true.
940
00:48:45,589 --> 00:48:51,470
I believe that the alien craft,
presuming they're reality--
941
00:48:51,470 --> 00:48:53,431
I think they are,
others think they are--
942
00:48:53,431 --> 00:48:55,683
have been coming
for a long, long time.
943
00:48:55,683 --> 00:48:59,645
NARRATOR: As the sixth person
to walk on the Moon,
944
00:48:59,645 --> 00:49:02,857
Mitchell's opinions concerning
UFOs and their connection
945
00:49:02,857 --> 00:49:07,194
to extraterrestrial encounters
have been difficult to dismiss.
946
00:49:07,194 --> 00:49:09,321
But if otherworldly entities
947
00:49:09,321 --> 00:49:11,407
have been making contact
with us--
948
00:49:11,407 --> 00:49:15,578
not only for decades
but for centuries--
949
00:49:15,578 --> 00:49:18,038
what is their goal?
950
00:49:23,377 --> 00:49:26,839
NARRATOR:
July 20, 1969.
951
00:49:31,594 --> 00:49:33,679
NARRATOR: Millions of people
around the world
952
00:49:33,679 --> 00:49:35,973
are glued to their televisions
953
00:49:35,973 --> 00:49:39,643
to watch one of the greatest
achievements in human history.
954
00:49:39,643 --> 00:49:42,271
Astronaut Neil Armstrong
955
00:49:42,271 --> 00:49:46,609
is about to become the first
Earth-born extraterrestrial
956
00:49:46,609 --> 00:49:49,695
by stepping foot
on the surface of the Moon.
957
00:49:56,452 --> 00:49:59,121
NARRATOR:
Although Richard Nixon
958
00:49:59,121 --> 00:50:01,123
is the current president
of the United States,
959
00:50:01,123 --> 00:50:03,459
most give credit to the man
960
00:50:03,459 --> 00:50:05,711
who held the office
six years earlier,
961
00:50:05,711 --> 00:50:08,839
John Fitzgerald Kennedy.
962
00:50:08,839 --> 00:50:13,552
Many years ago, the great
British explorer George Mallory,
963
00:50:13,552 --> 00:50:17,264
who was to die on Mount Everest,
964
00:50:17,264 --> 00:50:19,433
was asked why did he want
to climb it.
965
00:50:19,433 --> 00:50:21,810
He said, "Because it is there."
966
00:50:21,810 --> 00:50:24,939
Well, space is there,
and we're going to climb it.
967
00:50:24,939 --> 00:50:28,192
NARRATOR:
But even as Neil Armstrong
968
00:50:28,192 --> 00:50:30,486
and fellow astronaut Buzz Aldrin
969
00:50:30,486 --> 00:50:32,905
were still engaged
on their historic mission,
970
00:50:32,905 --> 00:50:36,283
Nixon and the team
at NASA now faced
971
00:50:36,283 --> 00:50:40,412
an even more daunting challenge:
What to do next?
972
00:50:40,412 --> 00:50:42,665
The Moon mission had gripped
973
00:50:42,665 --> 00:50:45,626
the American consciousness
as nothing before,
974
00:50:45,626 --> 00:50:48,254
and even though
a number of return missions
975
00:50:48,254 --> 00:50:50,673
had been planned, there was
nothing on the launch pad
976
00:50:50,673 --> 00:50:53,133
that could top
landing a man on the Moon
977
00:50:53,133 --> 00:50:55,344
as either a national goal
978
00:50:55,344 --> 00:50:58,097
or effective
political propaganda.
979
00:50:58,097 --> 00:51:02,226
To this end, in 1972,
980
00:51:02,226 --> 00:51:05,104
as Nixon began planning
his reelection campaign,
981
00:51:05,104 --> 00:51:08,524
the space shuttle program
was announced.
982
00:51:08,524 --> 00:51:11,026
It was also
during this same time
983
00:51:11,026 --> 00:51:14,154
that the president's
chief of staff, H. R. Haldeman,
984
00:51:14,154 --> 00:51:17,032
proposed the creation
of a documentary film
985
00:51:17,032 --> 00:51:19,785
that would depict Nixon
as being fully committed
986
00:51:19,785 --> 00:51:21,495
to the development of a number
987
00:51:21,495 --> 00:51:24,164
of ambitious
science-based programs.
988
00:51:24,164 --> 00:51:27,209
To produce it, Haldeman turned
989
00:51:27,209 --> 00:51:30,296
to successful advertising
executive-turned-filmmaker
990
00:51:30,296 --> 00:51:33,215
Robert Emenegger.
991
00:51:33,215 --> 00:51:35,467
HOLCOMBE: They knew that Bob
had made promotional films
992
00:51:35,467 --> 00:51:37,636
for the Department of Defense.
993
00:51:37,636 --> 00:51:40,431
So he was contacted and asked
994
00:51:40,431 --> 00:51:42,766
if he would come to a meeting
in Los Angeles
995
00:51:42,766 --> 00:51:44,727
with the Committee
to Re-Elect the President.
996
00:51:44,727 --> 00:51:48,480
And they said,
"We need a media consultant.
997
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,566
"We'd like somebody
to come on board
998
00:51:50,566 --> 00:51:53,902
"and make a documentary
that would support Nixon,
999
00:51:53,902 --> 00:51:58,032
"a documentary about
some perhaps secret project
1000
00:51:58,032 --> 00:52:00,868
"that the government's
been working on
1001
00:52:00,868 --> 00:52:03,537
that can be released
or declassified."
1002
00:52:03,537 --> 00:52:06,123
Well, they run around
the country
1003
00:52:06,123 --> 00:52:08,751
being shown all sorts
of secret projects.
1004
00:52:08,751 --> 00:52:11,503
They went to Wright-Patterson,
and they were shown
1005
00:52:11,503 --> 00:52:13,964
very classified
laser experiments.
1006
00:52:13,964 --> 00:52:18,844
They were shown dolphins being
trained for demolition work.
1007
00:52:18,844 --> 00:52:22,890
They were shown dogs being
trained for various tasks.
1008
00:52:22,890 --> 00:52:26,560
Then they were taken
to Norton Air Force Base,
1009
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:30,314
which at that time housed
the Air Force film depository.
1010
00:52:30,314 --> 00:52:33,692
Paul Shartle was the director
of the depository.
1011
00:52:33,692 --> 00:52:37,905
They were taken into a building
where these films were kept.
1012
00:52:37,905 --> 00:52:41,075
They were taken into
what was known as a clean room,
1013
00:52:41,075 --> 00:52:43,952
meaning it was free
of any bugs, microphones,
1014
00:52:43,952 --> 00:52:46,705
video equipment, anything.
1015
00:52:46,705 --> 00:52:50,751
NARRATOR: It was during his
meeting at Norton Air Force Base
1016
00:52:50,751 --> 00:52:54,296
that Robert Emenegger learned
that Paul Shartle had
1017
00:52:54,296 --> 00:52:57,508
a different agenda
from that of the president,
1018
00:52:57,508 --> 00:52:59,718
and a different film
in mind than the one
1019
00:52:59,718 --> 00:53:03,305
that had been
initially proposed.
1020
00:53:03,305 --> 00:53:06,684
Shartle said,
"I'd like to ask you this:
1021
00:53:06,684 --> 00:53:11,355
How would you like to make
a documentary on UFOs?"
1022
00:53:11,355 --> 00:53:13,107
And Bob Emenegger was stunned.
1023
00:53:13,107 --> 00:53:15,442
He told me at his home,
1024
00:53:15,442 --> 00:53:17,528
he said, "I didn't know
anything about UFOs.
1025
00:53:17,528 --> 00:53:19,071
"I was shocked.
1026
00:53:19,071 --> 00:53:22,449
"They said if we would make
the documentary,
1027
00:53:22,449 --> 00:53:27,371
"we would be given 600 feet
of 16-millimeter film
1028
00:53:27,371 --> 00:53:31,875
shot at Holloman Air Force Base
of a UFO landing there."
1029
00:53:31,875 --> 00:53:34,253
NARRATOR:
For Robert Emenegger,
1030
00:53:34,253 --> 00:53:37,047
it was an offer
too good to refuse.
1031
00:53:37,047 --> 00:53:38,841
Believing he had
the full support
1032
00:53:38,841 --> 00:53:41,218
of both the president
and the military,
1033
00:53:41,218 --> 00:53:43,178
he set about to make
the U. S. government's
1034
00:53:43,178 --> 00:53:46,807
first official film
on the subject of UFOs.
1035
00:53:46,807 --> 00:53:49,768
He quickly recruited
Rod Serling,
1036
00:53:49,768 --> 00:53:53,689
Burgess Meredith and José Ferrer
to narrate the film,
1037
00:53:53,689 --> 00:53:57,568
and the final explosive scene
was to show actual footage
1038
00:53:57,568 --> 00:54:00,612
of an alien encounter.
1039
00:54:00,612 --> 00:54:02,656
But when it came time to receive
1040
00:54:02,656 --> 00:54:04,825
the incredible footage
he'd been promised,
1041
00:54:04,825 --> 00:54:08,245
Emenegger had the government's
once-open door
1042
00:54:08,245 --> 00:54:11,373
slammed in his face.
1043
00:54:11,373 --> 00:54:15,961
They had been promised
really dramatic footage,
1044
00:54:15,961 --> 00:54:19,715
said to be completely legit,
of a UFO landing
1045
00:54:19,715 --> 00:54:23,260
at Holloman Air Force Base,
in 1964,
1046
00:54:23,260 --> 00:54:25,137
which had alien beings come out,
1047
00:54:25,137 --> 00:54:27,514
like The Day the Earth
Stood Still, essentially.
1048
00:54:27,514 --> 00:54:31,268
HOWE:
Out came some kind of a ramp.
1049
00:54:31,268 --> 00:54:34,396
Our contingent of humans
walked up,
1050
00:54:34,396 --> 00:54:36,356
met these two EBENs,
1051
00:54:36,356 --> 00:54:39,109
"Extraterrestrial
Biological Entities."
1052
00:54:39,109 --> 00:54:44,740
And then in this doorway
was a being unlike the EBENs,
1053
00:54:44,740 --> 00:54:47,701
and that it was holding
a rod that had a spiral
1054
00:54:47,701 --> 00:54:51,038
that went around the rod,
and that this was used
1055
00:54:51,038 --> 00:54:53,916
to communicate with our team.
1056
00:54:53,916 --> 00:54:56,376
CAMERON:
This was a film
1057
00:54:56,376 --> 00:54:58,795
that had four
different vantage points.
1058
00:54:58,795 --> 00:55:01,131
They were shooting one from
the air, three on the ground.
1059
00:55:01,131 --> 00:55:03,425
And the craft landed,
1060
00:55:03,425 --> 00:55:06,470
the aliens came out,
and they stored the craft.
1061
00:55:06,470 --> 00:55:08,347
All this was on film.
1062
00:55:08,347 --> 00:55:12,434
NARRATOR: But on the day
Emenegger was to be given a copy
1063
00:55:12,434 --> 00:55:15,062
of the 16-millimeter footage
from the Air Force,
1064
00:55:15,062 --> 00:55:18,065
the filmmaker received
an unexpected phone call.
1065
00:55:18,065 --> 00:55:20,234
(phone ringing)
1066
00:55:20,234 --> 00:55:23,153
HOWE: It is one of those
like out of a Hollywood feature.
1067
00:55:23,153 --> 00:55:27,324
It's supposed to be coming.
A courier is on the way.
1068
00:55:27,324 --> 00:55:29,952
They cannot believe it.
It's really gonna happen.
1069
00:55:29,952 --> 00:55:32,371
They're gonna see
all of this film.
1070
00:55:32,371 --> 00:55:34,831
And then another phone call:
1071
00:55:34,831 --> 00:55:37,751
"We're sorry, the approval
has been rescinded.
1072
00:55:37,751 --> 00:55:39,795
No film."
1073
00:55:39,795 --> 00:55:43,048
CAMERON: Colonel Coleman
from the Pentagon said,
1074
00:55:43,048 --> 00:55:44,716
"The timing isn't right.
1075
00:55:44,716 --> 00:55:47,594
We can't allow you
to use the film."
1076
00:55:47,594 --> 00:55:49,513
HOLCOMBE:
Bob Emenegger was crushed.
1077
00:55:49,513 --> 00:55:51,265
He said, "Why?"
1078
00:55:51,265 --> 00:55:54,476
And he found out that,
"Making a documentary
1079
00:55:54,476 --> 00:55:58,105
"exposing UFOs as being
extraterrestrial
1080
00:55:58,105 --> 00:56:02,317
would not help the president,
but conceivably could harm him."
1081
00:56:02,317 --> 00:56:05,153
NARRATOR:
Ultimately, Robert Emenegger
1082
00:56:05,153 --> 00:56:08,198
was forced to complete
his documentary
1083
00:56:08,198 --> 00:56:11,535
without the sensational footage
he had been promised.
1084
00:56:11,535 --> 00:56:12,995
It was a documentary called
1085
00:56:12,995 --> 00:56:15,038
UFOs: Past, Present,
and Future.
1086
00:56:15,038 --> 00:56:17,207
And they also had a book
by the same name.
1087
00:56:17,207 --> 00:56:20,085
NARRATOR:
As written by Robert Emenegger,
1088
00:56:20,085 --> 00:56:23,088
and directed by Ray Rivas,
the documentary
1089
00:56:23,088 --> 00:56:26,425
proved to be both popular
and influential.
1090
00:56:26,425 --> 00:56:30,220
Even without the smoking gun
footage, it caused a sensation,
1091
00:56:30,220 --> 00:56:34,349
and was later credited
as one of the inspirations
1092
00:56:34,349 --> 00:56:37,769
behind Steven Spielberg's
1977 blockbuster
1093
00:56:37,769 --> 00:56:42,024
Close Encounters
of the Third Kind.
1094
00:56:42,024 --> 00:56:43,942
CAMERON: The Robert Emenegger
disclosure effort
1095
00:56:43,942 --> 00:56:45,944
is what I call it.
1096
00:56:45,944 --> 00:56:48,614
I said, "You know, that film,
Bob, that's very strange.
1097
00:56:48,614 --> 00:56:50,866
"You know, if it weren't
for the location,
1098
00:56:50,866 --> 00:56:52,492
that's Close Encounters
of the Third Kind."
1099
00:56:52,492 --> 00:56:55,120
And he said,
"What, I didn't tell you?"
1100
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,497
And I said,
"You didn't tell me what?"
1101
00:56:57,497 --> 00:56:59,750
"I didn't tell you I gave a copy
to Steven Spielberg?"
1102
00:56:59,750 --> 00:57:01,960
And I said,
"No, you didn't tell me that."
1103
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,213
So the documentary
was done in 1975.
1104
00:57:05,213 --> 00:57:07,090
Steven Spielberg's Close
Encounters of the Third Kind
1105
00:57:07,090 --> 00:57:10,093
came out in 1977.
1106
00:57:10,093 --> 00:57:12,512
And so, when you see Close
Encounters of the Third Kind,
1107
00:57:12,512 --> 00:57:14,431
it's the Holloman
Air Force Base story,
1108
00:57:14,431 --> 00:57:16,141
just changed the location.
1109
00:57:16,141 --> 00:57:18,685
It's exactly what the story was.
1110
00:57:18,685 --> 00:57:22,064
NARRATOR: While the alleged
alien UFO footage
1111
00:57:22,064 --> 00:57:25,067
from Holloman Air Force Base
has never surfaced,
1112
00:57:25,067 --> 00:57:28,612
many ancient astronaut theorists
believe it still exists,
1113
00:57:28,612 --> 00:57:31,239
under lock and key.
1114
00:57:31,239 --> 00:57:37,079
What I am really truly expecting
is that somewhere,
1115
00:57:37,079 --> 00:57:40,791
from 2018, going forward
in the next decade,
1116
00:57:40,791 --> 00:57:47,422
that finally all of that film
is going to be released,
1117
00:57:47,422 --> 00:57:51,968
and that we will finally
enter the true history.
1118
00:57:51,968 --> 00:57:55,597
NARRATOR: Did the U. S. Air Force
really have footage
1119
00:57:55,597 --> 00:57:57,974
of secret meetings between
government officials
1120
00:57:57,974 --> 00:58:00,560
and extraterrestrials?
1121
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:04,773
And if so, where is it now?
1122
00:58:08,151 --> 00:58:11,446
Coming up...
1123
00:58:11,446 --> 00:58:14,199
NARRATOR:
For decades, American presidents
1124
00:58:14,199 --> 00:58:17,536
have officially denied that they
have received any information
1125
00:58:17,536 --> 00:58:20,622
that extraterrestrials
are visiting Earth.
1126
00:58:20,622 --> 00:58:24,167
But considering that the
U. S. government has conducted
1127
00:58:24,167 --> 00:58:27,671
at least four major
investigations into UFO activity
1128
00:58:27,671 --> 00:58:29,881
since the 1940s,
1129
00:58:29,881 --> 00:58:33,885
why has there been so much time
and taxpayer money devoted
1130
00:58:33,885 --> 00:58:35,512
to studying something
1131
00:58:35,512 --> 00:58:38,807
that the government claims
isn't happening?
1132
00:58:38,807 --> 00:58:41,893
We don't know
for an absolute fact
1133
00:58:41,893 --> 00:58:44,730
what kind of briefings
presidents actually receive,
1134
00:58:44,730 --> 00:58:48,108
when they come into office,
about extraterrestrials.
1135
00:58:48,108 --> 00:58:49,818
But we do have some indications
1136
00:58:49,818 --> 00:58:52,237
from some documents
that do exist,
1137
00:58:52,237 --> 00:58:55,741
one of them being the original
MJ-12 presidential briefing
1138
00:58:55,741 --> 00:58:57,534
for President Eisenhower,
1139
00:58:57,534 --> 00:59:00,120
telling him all about
the crash at Roswell.
1140
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,790
NARRATOR:
On November 2, 2005,
1141
00:59:03,790 --> 00:59:06,877
a document surfaced
that was allegedly a transcript
1142
00:59:06,877 --> 00:59:09,755
made from a recorded
presidential briefing
1143
00:59:09,755 --> 00:59:14,593
held at Camp David
in March of 1981.
1144
00:59:14,593 --> 00:59:18,638
Present were
President Ronald Reagan,
1145
00:59:18,638 --> 00:59:21,099
CIA director William Casey,
1146
00:59:21,099 --> 00:59:23,685
Secretary of Defense
Caspar Weinberger,
1147
00:59:23,685 --> 00:59:28,356
and a mysterious person
known only as "The Caretaker."
1148
00:59:28,356 --> 00:59:31,610
According to the document,
during the meeting,
1149
00:59:31,610 --> 00:59:34,279
The Caretaker shared
evidence that aliens
1150
00:59:34,279 --> 00:59:38,033
have been visiting the Earth
for thousands of years,
1151
00:59:38,033 --> 00:59:41,411
and that modern American records
of such encounters
1152
00:59:41,411 --> 00:59:47,083
officially began in 1947,
following the Roswell incident.
1153
00:59:47,083 --> 00:59:49,211
BARA: Certainly,
if you look at Ronald Reagan,
1154
00:59:49,211 --> 00:59:52,005
he's somebody who brought up
aliens all the time.
1155
00:59:52,005 --> 00:59:54,883
To my mind,
what Reagan is communicating is,
1156
00:59:54,883 --> 00:59:57,928
"Yes, Roswell happened.
Yes, it is significant.
1157
00:59:57,928 --> 00:59:59,846
"Yes, there are aliens.
1158
00:59:59,846 --> 01:00:02,849
"And we'd better
get used to this idea
1159
01:00:02,849 --> 01:00:05,143
or figure out
how to deal with them."
1160
01:00:05,143 --> 01:00:08,522
I, William Jefferson Clinton...
1161
01:00:08,522 --> 01:00:10,398
NARRATOR:
But it was with the inauguration
1162
01:00:10,398 --> 01:00:14,361
of President Bill Clinton
in January 1993
1163
01:00:14,361 --> 01:00:16,738
that many UFO researchers
believed
1164
01:00:16,738 --> 01:00:21,076
they finally had an ally
in the White House.
1165
01:00:21,076 --> 01:00:25,413
If the United States Air Force
did recover alien bodies,
1166
01:00:25,413 --> 01:00:27,499
they didn't tell me
about it, either,
1167
01:00:27,499 --> 01:00:29,960
and I want to know.
1168
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:33,547
BARA: So, when Bill Clinton
gets into office, he called in
1169
01:00:33,547 --> 01:00:35,507
his presidential aide
Webb Hubbell,
1170
01:00:35,507 --> 01:00:38,760
and the first two things that he
asked for after he was president
1171
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:42,889
was who killed JFK
and are there aliens.
1172
01:00:42,889 --> 01:00:46,852
Clinton knew that there was
something up about aliens
1173
01:00:46,852 --> 01:00:50,522
and UFOs that people
were not being told.
1174
01:00:50,522 --> 01:00:52,440
NARRATOR:
In his quest to shed light
1175
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,110
on the government's
secret UFO investigations,
1176
01:00:55,110 --> 01:00:58,530
President Clinton found
an unlikely ally
1177
01:00:58,530 --> 01:01:02,117
in billionaire philanthropist
Laurance S. Rockefeller,
1178
01:01:02,117 --> 01:01:04,870
who used his influence
to push full disclosure
1179
01:01:04,870 --> 01:01:09,165
about possible extraterrestrial
activities on Earth.
1180
01:01:11,251 --> 01:01:13,461
The way it started was
Laurance Rockefeller,
1181
01:01:13,461 --> 01:01:16,256
who was one of the famous
Rockefeller brothers,
1182
01:01:16,256 --> 01:01:20,677
had been shown a documentary
on Roswell
1183
01:01:20,677 --> 01:01:22,512
and was very interested.
1184
01:01:22,512 --> 01:01:24,222
So, the election was going on
at the time,
1185
01:01:24,222 --> 01:01:27,350
and he said, "Whether Ross Perot
wins or George Bush wins
1186
01:01:27,350 --> 01:01:29,811
"or Bill Clinton wins,
I'm going to the White House
1187
01:01:29,811 --> 01:01:34,149
and I'm going to get them
to disclose the UFO story."
1188
01:01:34,149 --> 01:01:36,818
NARRATOR:
In 1993,
1189
01:01:36,818 --> 01:01:39,154
Laurance Rockefeller
began inviting
1190
01:01:39,154 --> 01:01:41,448
a select group
of UFO researchers
1191
01:01:41,448 --> 01:01:43,617
and ancient astronaut theorists
1192
01:01:43,617 --> 01:01:46,077
to join him
for an important first meeting
1193
01:01:46,077 --> 01:01:50,999
of what would become known
as the Rockefeller Initiative.
1194
01:01:50,999 --> 01:01:54,794
In 1993,
I got a phone call saying,
1195
01:01:54,794 --> 01:01:57,672
"Linda, we'd like you to join
1196
01:01:57,672 --> 01:01:59,799
"a group of your peers
1197
01:01:59,799 --> 01:02:03,803
at Laurance Rockefeller's ranch
at Jackson Hole."
1198
01:02:03,803 --> 01:02:06,848
So, we met.
1199
01:02:06,848 --> 01:02:09,434
There were people
like Robert Bigelow,
1200
01:02:09,434 --> 01:02:12,145
now the head
of Bigelow Aerospace.
1201
01:02:12,145 --> 01:02:17,400
And there were others that were
authors and scientists.
1202
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,819
CAMERON: One of the people
who helped edit the letter
1203
01:02:19,819 --> 01:02:22,238
on UFO disclosure to the
president of the United States
1204
01:02:22,238 --> 01:02:23,448
was Hillary Clinton.
1205
01:02:23,448 --> 01:02:27,160
She was the first lady
at the time.
1206
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:29,871
NARRATOR: Another person
close to Bill Clinton
1207
01:02:29,871 --> 01:02:33,500
who was an advocate for
government investigation of UFOs
1208
01:02:33,500 --> 01:02:35,377
was John Podesta,
1209
01:02:35,377 --> 01:02:39,255
who served as the president's
assistant in 1993
1210
01:02:39,255 --> 01:02:44,928
and became his deputy chief
of staff in 1997.
1211
01:02:44,928 --> 01:02:48,890
I've had a long career,
trying to fight
1212
01:02:48,890 --> 01:02:52,102
against government secrecy
and create more openness.
1213
01:02:52,102 --> 01:02:54,270
Right after I left law school,
I started working on that
1214
01:02:54,270 --> 01:02:55,855
at the Department of Justice,
1215
01:02:55,855 --> 01:02:57,565
then at the Senate
Judiciary Committee.
1216
01:02:57,565 --> 01:02:59,359
And then when I worked
for President Clinton
1217
01:02:59,359 --> 01:03:01,444
in the White House,
I was one of the people
1218
01:03:01,444 --> 01:03:03,321
spearheading an initiative,
1219
01:03:03,321 --> 01:03:06,199
to declassify
what turned out to be
1220
01:03:06,199 --> 01:03:08,326
over a billion pages
of documents
1221
01:03:08,326 --> 01:03:11,204
that were resident
at the National Archives.
1222
01:03:11,204 --> 01:03:12,956
In President Clinton's case,
1223
01:03:12,956 --> 01:03:15,166
I think he was interested
in the phenomena.
1224
01:03:15,166 --> 01:03:18,003
He had worked with his then
science advisor Jack Gibbons
1225
01:03:18,003 --> 01:03:20,922
to understand what was going on.
1226
01:03:20,922 --> 01:03:23,633
CAMERON: This correspondence
starts going back and forth
1227
01:03:23,633 --> 01:03:25,051
for three years.
1228
01:03:25,051 --> 01:03:27,178
Rockefeller is putting
immense pressure
1229
01:03:27,178 --> 01:03:29,389
on the White House to disclose.
1230
01:03:29,389 --> 01:03:31,975
NARRATOR:
Laurance Rockefeller requested
1231
01:03:31,975 --> 01:03:35,353
that the 1947 Roswell incident
be a starting point
1232
01:03:35,353 --> 01:03:37,605
in the government's disclosure.
1233
01:03:37,605 --> 01:03:39,858
CAMERON: They went out
and they reinvestigated Roswell.
1234
01:03:39,858 --> 01:03:41,609
It came back,
1235
01:03:41,609 --> 01:03:44,612
and Bill Clinton saw
the final report in 1995.
1236
01:03:44,612 --> 01:03:47,949
PODESTA:
President Clinton's one of
1237
01:03:47,949 --> 01:03:50,285
the most curious people
I've ever met.
1238
01:03:50,285 --> 01:03:52,829
I think he wanted to know
what the Air Force knew,
1239
01:03:52,829 --> 01:03:55,081
and got a report back that,
in my view,
1240
01:03:55,081 --> 01:03:57,959
was a little bit unsatisfying.
1241
01:03:57,959 --> 01:03:59,961
He was furious,
from what I was told.
1242
01:03:59,961 --> 01:04:02,338
NARRATOR:
The Rockefeller Initiative
1243
01:04:02,338 --> 01:04:04,424
was hoping for a revelation,
1244
01:04:04,424 --> 01:04:07,385
but the U. S. Air Force
stuck to its position
1245
01:04:07,385 --> 01:04:12,515
that a crashed weather balloon
caused the Roswell incident.
1246
01:04:12,515 --> 01:04:15,185
CAMERON: Clinton goes
to Belfast, Northern Ireland,
1247
01:04:15,185 --> 01:04:17,312
in November of 1995.
1248
01:04:17,312 --> 01:04:19,022
He's lighting
the Christmas tree,
1249
01:04:19,022 --> 01:04:21,316
and that's when he gives
the famous speech.
1250
01:04:21,316 --> 01:04:23,985
He said he gets
a letter from Ryan,
1251
01:04:23,985 --> 01:04:26,571
which I tried to recover
in an FOIA.
1252
01:04:26,571 --> 01:04:29,991
There is no letter to Ryan.
I think they just made it up.
1253
01:04:29,991 --> 01:04:32,744
He said, "Ryan, if you're out
there in the audience tonight,
1254
01:04:32,744 --> 01:04:34,579
here's the answer
to your question."
1255
01:04:34,579 --> 01:04:36,206
No.
1256
01:04:36,206 --> 01:04:39,334
As far as I know,
an alien spacecraft
1257
01:04:39,334 --> 01:04:42,837
did not crash
in Roswell, New Mexico.
1258
01:04:42,837 --> 01:04:46,591
And, Ryan,
if the United States Air Force
1259
01:04:46,591 --> 01:04:49,344
did recover alien bodies,
1260
01:04:49,344 --> 01:04:53,848
they didn't tell me about it,
either, and I want to know.
1261
01:04:53,848 --> 01:04:58,061
CAMERON: That's why in 1997
the U. S. Air Force goes out
1262
01:04:58,061 --> 01:05:00,647
and does a second
Roswell report,
1263
01:05:00,647 --> 01:05:02,148
spends $20 million on it,
1264
01:05:02,148 --> 01:05:03,983
because the president
was furious.
1265
01:05:03,983 --> 01:05:06,778
NARRATOR:
According to the revised report,
1266
01:05:06,778 --> 01:05:10,281
the so-called alien bodies
that eyewitnesses claimed
1267
01:05:10,281 --> 01:05:12,534
they saw being pulled
from the wreckage
1268
01:05:12,534 --> 01:05:16,704
were dismissed as being nothing
more than crash test dummies
1269
01:05:16,704 --> 01:05:19,040
which had been tethered
to parachutes being used
1270
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,918
in an otherwise
conventional test.
1271
01:05:21,918 --> 01:05:25,421
PODESTA: Dr. Gibbons pressed
first the Secretary of Defense
1272
01:05:25,421 --> 01:05:27,674
Les Aspen, and then
the Secretary of the Air Force,
1273
01:05:27,674 --> 01:05:30,885
to take this matter seriously,
to do a review.
1274
01:05:30,885 --> 01:05:32,762
The boxes were missing.
The documents were gone.
1275
01:05:32,762 --> 01:05:35,056
Nobody knew anything.
1276
01:05:35,056 --> 01:05:39,185
And, you know, the...
the trail kind of went cold.
1277
01:05:40,728 --> 01:05:43,064
NARRATOR:
In 1996,
1278
01:05:43,064 --> 01:05:46,609
the Rockefeller Initiative
was quietly closed,
1279
01:05:46,609 --> 01:05:48,361
and its participants--
1280
01:05:48,361 --> 01:05:50,155
frustrated that forces
within the government
1281
01:05:50,155 --> 01:05:52,907
still refused
to reveal the truth--
1282
01:05:52,907 --> 01:05:57,162
went away without the answers
they'd hoped for.
1283
01:05:57,162 --> 01:06:00,123
The Rockefeller Initiative is
considered by some researchers
1284
01:06:00,123 --> 01:06:03,376
to be the biggest
government UFO disclosure story
1285
01:06:03,376 --> 01:06:05,044
of all times.
1286
01:06:05,044 --> 01:06:07,297
BARA:
The fact that it even existed,
1287
01:06:07,297 --> 01:06:09,883
that it was sanctioned
in any way by the government,
1288
01:06:09,883 --> 01:06:12,093
that the report was accepted
1289
01:06:12,093 --> 01:06:14,053
by the White House
and people in the government,
1290
01:06:14,053 --> 01:06:16,472
I think is very,
very highly significant.
1291
01:06:16,472 --> 01:06:19,017
So it's kind of a very small
incremental step forward
1292
01:06:19,017 --> 01:06:21,477
in the process of disclosure
1293
01:06:21,477 --> 01:06:24,898
and moving us
towards the ultimate answers
1294
01:06:24,898 --> 01:06:27,066
to the questions
that we're all asking.
1295
01:06:31,154 --> 01:06:34,782
NARRATOR:
Washington, D. C.
1296
01:06:34,782 --> 01:06:38,203
July 1996.
1297
01:06:38,203 --> 01:06:40,663
Political activist
Stephen Bassett
1298
01:06:40,663 --> 01:06:42,832
becomes the first registered
1299
01:06:42,832 --> 01:06:45,210
extraterrestrial life
and disclosure lobbyist
1300
01:06:45,210 --> 01:06:47,962
in the United States.
1301
01:06:47,962 --> 01:06:51,090
For years,
he had been trying to organize
1302
01:06:51,090 --> 01:06:53,509
a hearing
with members of Congress
1303
01:06:53,509 --> 01:06:56,262
to present evidence
that the government was hiding
1304
01:06:56,262 --> 01:06:59,724
important information
from its people.
1305
01:06:59,724 --> 01:07:04,229
The extraterrestrial presence,
if formally acknowledged,
1306
01:07:04,229 --> 01:07:07,065
could bring in an age of reform,
where the human race
1307
01:07:07,065 --> 01:07:08,733
could get its act together,
1308
01:07:08,733 --> 01:07:10,568
because we're
running out of time.
1309
01:07:10,568 --> 01:07:13,988
As I got into the issue,
1310
01:07:13,988 --> 01:07:17,367
what I learned is
just how dysfunctional
1311
01:07:17,367 --> 01:07:20,495
the United States government
had become.
1312
01:07:20,495 --> 01:07:23,122
It is the vast expanse
of secrecy
1313
01:07:23,122 --> 01:07:25,750
and abuse of secrecy in power
that is lying
1314
01:07:25,750 --> 01:07:29,003
at the base of a great deal
of our problems.
1315
01:07:29,003 --> 01:07:33,800
And so I had
one simple fundamental task:
1316
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:35,927
formal acknowledgment of
the extraterrestrial presence,
1317
01:07:35,927 --> 01:07:38,429
simple, clean and easy.
1318
01:07:38,429 --> 01:07:41,140
CHAIRMAN: Gentlemen, if you
could stand and repeat after me?
1319
01:07:41,140 --> 01:07:44,352
NARRATOR:
On April 29, 2013,
1320
01:07:44,352 --> 01:07:46,437
Bassett organized
1321
01:07:46,437 --> 01:07:49,983
the Citizen Hearing on
Disclosure in Washington, D. C.
1322
01:07:49,983 --> 01:07:52,777
The objective was
to bring together
1323
01:07:52,777 --> 01:07:57,073
the most compelling evidence of
extraterrestrial visits to Earth
1324
01:07:57,073 --> 01:07:59,409
and convince former members
of Congress
1325
01:07:59,409 --> 01:08:01,244
to take immediate action.
1326
01:08:01,244 --> 01:08:04,372
BASSETT: I had wanted
to do it since 2001--
1327
01:08:04,372 --> 01:08:07,875
bring in 42 witnesses,
from ten countries,
1328
01:08:07,875 --> 01:08:11,796
to testify in the main ballroom
of the National Press Club,
1329
01:08:11,796 --> 01:08:14,882
before six former members
of the Congress,
1330
01:08:14,882 --> 01:08:18,219
five congresspersons,
one senator.
1331
01:08:18,219 --> 01:08:22,432
And they testified
for 30 hours over five days.
1332
01:08:22,432 --> 01:08:24,809
It was an amazing event,
1333
01:08:24,809 --> 01:08:28,938
mostly because of the caliber of
witnesses that were brought in,
1334
01:08:28,938 --> 01:08:31,357
the investigators, researchers.
1335
01:08:31,357 --> 01:08:33,401
They don't want you
to know that.
1336
01:08:33,401 --> 01:08:35,611
NARRATOR: Witnesses
included John Callahan,
1337
01:08:35,611 --> 01:08:37,196
former division chief
1338
01:08:37,196 --> 01:08:39,407
of the Accidents
and Investigations Branch
1339
01:08:39,407 --> 01:08:41,868
of the FAA,
1340
01:08:41,868 --> 01:08:45,204
the former Canadian Minister
of Defence, Paul Hellyer,
1341
01:08:45,204 --> 01:08:48,833
retired Air Force captain
Robert Salas,
1342
01:08:48,833 --> 01:08:51,961
and many others who had
conducted extensive research
1343
01:08:51,961 --> 01:08:53,880
into the UFO phenomenon.
1344
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,883
We live in a cosmos
teeming with life.
1345
01:08:56,883 --> 01:08:59,218
The fact that
some other civilizations
1346
01:08:59,218 --> 01:09:01,304
are more advanced than we are
may be humbling,
1347
01:09:01,304 --> 01:09:04,891
but that could be a necessary
step in our survival.
1348
01:09:04,891 --> 01:09:08,353
People are so afraid
for their lives, their families,
1349
01:09:08,353 --> 01:09:12,315
because they have had to sign
nondisclosure agreements.
1350
01:09:12,315 --> 01:09:16,152
CHAIRMAN: Witness from
the U. K., Nick Pope.
1351
01:09:16,152 --> 01:09:17,779
POPE:
Thank you.
1352
01:09:17,779 --> 01:09:19,364
Um, you should all have
a printed-out copy
1353
01:09:19,364 --> 01:09:21,199
of my opening statement.
1354
01:09:21,199 --> 01:09:24,202
POPE: I was one of the
witnesses, and I have to say,
1355
01:09:24,202 --> 01:09:27,789
this was the nearest
that we've gotten since,
1356
01:09:27,789 --> 01:09:30,875
oh, way back to the '70s
and the '60s, even,
1357
01:09:30,875 --> 01:09:35,546
to proper congressional hearings
on the UFO mystery.
1358
01:09:35,546 --> 01:09:39,384
You did work for the Ministry
of Defence in the U. K.?
1359
01:09:39,384 --> 01:09:41,594
That's correct, sir, yes.
1360
01:09:41,594 --> 01:09:44,764
POPE: I was asked
about my experience
1361
01:09:44,764 --> 01:09:48,101
within the British government's
UFO program,
1362
01:09:48,101 --> 01:09:50,603
and one of the U. K.'s
most high-profile cases,
1363
01:09:50,603 --> 01:09:53,064
the Rendlesham Forest incident.
1364
01:09:53,064 --> 01:09:56,484
NARRATOR:
In December 1980,
1365
01:09:56,484 --> 01:09:59,654
there were unexplained reports
of a glowing craft in the woods
1366
01:09:59,654 --> 01:10:03,241
of Royal Air Force Base,
Woodbridge.
1367
01:10:03,241 --> 01:10:07,870
Burn marks and broken branches
were later discovered.
1368
01:10:07,870 --> 01:10:11,708
Some have called this incident
"Britain's Roswell."
1369
01:10:11,708 --> 01:10:15,253
POPE: Even though I've left
government, I responded with,
1370
01:10:15,253 --> 01:10:18,297
"I can neither confirm
nor deny."
1371
01:10:18,297 --> 01:10:20,925
I don't think
the committee liked
1372
01:10:20,925 --> 01:10:23,761
my "neither confirm nor deny"
response,
1373
01:10:23,761 --> 01:10:26,222
and they pushed me
very hard on that.
1374
01:10:26,222 --> 01:10:28,641
Certainly, you've been involved
since you left.
1375
01:10:28,641 --> 01:10:30,268
Yes, sir, in a private capacity.
1376
01:10:30,268 --> 01:10:31,644
What's your opinion,
1377
01:10:31,644 --> 01:10:33,813
based on all that stuff
that you've had access to?
1378
01:10:33,813 --> 01:10:35,481
Is there an E. T. origin
1379
01:10:35,481 --> 01:10:39,986
to what's obvious sightings
of real UFOs?
1380
01:10:39,986 --> 01:10:42,488
It is a... a possibility.
1381
01:10:42,488 --> 01:10:45,241
KLOETZKE:
You could tell by the faces,
1382
01:10:45,241 --> 01:10:48,202
they really weren't quite sure
what to think of this yet.
1383
01:10:48,202 --> 01:10:51,956
By Wednesday, we have them,
you know, standing up,
1384
01:10:51,956 --> 01:10:55,460
pointing fingers, saying,
"We need to open those files."
1385
01:10:55,460 --> 01:10:58,379
POPE:
It drove things forward.
1386
01:10:58,379 --> 01:11:01,215
It took the UFO phenomenon
out of the fringe
1387
01:11:01,215 --> 01:11:03,050
and into the mainstream.
1388
01:11:03,050 --> 01:11:05,762
BASSETT: Thousands of people
watched it online.
1389
01:11:05,762 --> 01:11:07,680
We netcast it so that
1390
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:09,724
members of Congress
and their staff
1391
01:11:09,724 --> 01:11:12,477
who were too timid
to come down and watch it there,
1392
01:11:12,477 --> 01:11:14,312
or members of the press
that were afraid
1393
01:11:14,312 --> 01:11:16,022
that they might be seen
watching it,
1394
01:11:16,022 --> 01:11:18,107
could watch it in the comfort
of their offices.
1395
01:11:18,107 --> 01:11:21,736
Sometime this year,
we may just enter a new world.
1396
01:11:21,736 --> 01:11:23,362
Thank you so much.
1397
01:11:23,362 --> 01:11:25,490
NARRATOR:
Based on the hearings,
1398
01:11:25,490 --> 01:11:28,284
four of the six
former members of Congress
1399
01:11:28,284 --> 01:11:31,204
pledged their support
to hold a world conference,
1400
01:11:31,204 --> 01:11:33,498
in conjunction
with the United Nations,
1401
01:11:33,498 --> 01:11:35,750
to address the disclosure
1402
01:11:35,750 --> 01:11:38,085
of all knowledge
of extraterrestrial contact
1403
01:11:38,085 --> 01:11:39,504
with this planet.
1404
01:11:41,172 --> 01:11:44,717
Then, on August 15, 2013,
1405
01:11:44,717 --> 01:11:48,262
less than four months after the
Citizen Hearing on Disclosure,
1406
01:11:48,262 --> 01:11:53,226
the United States government
made a shocking admission.
1407
01:11:53,226 --> 01:11:55,603
After decades
of denying its existence,
1408
01:11:55,603 --> 01:11:58,147
they finally admitted
that a secret base
1409
01:11:58,147 --> 01:12:01,776
known as Area 51 did exist.
1410
01:12:01,776 --> 01:12:04,821
Did the Citizen Hearing
on Disclosure
1411
01:12:04,821 --> 01:12:07,949
force the U. S. government
to act?
1412
01:12:07,949 --> 01:12:09,867
While the government
acknowledged
1413
01:12:09,867 --> 01:12:14,163
the existence of Area 51,
it still has not been revealed
1414
01:12:14,163 --> 01:12:17,792
just what it is
currently being used for.
1415
01:12:17,792 --> 01:12:19,460
And since that disclosure,
1416
01:12:19,460 --> 01:12:22,213
the perimeter around the base
has been extended
1417
01:12:22,213 --> 01:12:25,591
and security heightened.
1418
01:12:25,591 --> 01:12:29,136
Area 51 has to be
more secretive now,
1419
01:12:29,136 --> 01:12:31,639
because you got
so many other concerns.
1420
01:12:31,639 --> 01:12:34,684
We didn't have computers
to worry about, Internet,
1421
01:12:34,684 --> 01:12:37,228
all that sort of thing
that you've got today.
1422
01:12:37,228 --> 01:12:39,897
So it's a brand-new ball game
as far as security.
1423
01:12:39,897 --> 01:12:43,109
NARRATOR: While many considered
the government's admission
1424
01:12:43,109 --> 01:12:46,654
of the existence of Area 51
to be a bombshell,
1425
01:12:46,654 --> 01:12:50,408
an even bigger disclosure
was still to come:
1426
01:12:50,408 --> 01:12:56,038
the declassification of millions
of top secret CIA documents.
1427
01:13:03,212 --> 01:13:04,797
NARRATOR:
Bethesda, Maryland.
1428
01:13:04,797 --> 01:13:07,717
November 2014.
1429
01:13:07,717 --> 01:13:09,802
Stephen Bassett,
1430
01:13:09,802 --> 01:13:13,598
executive director
of the Paradigm Research Group,
1431
01:13:13,598 --> 01:13:17,977
launches an initiative directed
to influence Hillary Clinton.
1432
01:13:17,977 --> 01:13:20,730
Based on Clinton's work
with Laurance Rockefeller
1433
01:13:20,730 --> 01:13:22,857
in the 1990s,
1434
01:13:22,857 --> 01:13:25,443
Bassett believes
she could be an ally
1435
01:13:25,443 --> 01:13:30,031
in getting the government
to declassify its UFO files.
1436
01:13:30,031 --> 01:13:33,326
That political initiative
was begun
1437
01:13:33,326 --> 01:13:35,870
by sending a full copy
1438
01:13:35,870 --> 01:13:39,040
of the 30 hours of testimony
to every member of Congress,
1439
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:43,294
addressing the Rockefeller
Initiative, naming names--
1440
01:13:43,294 --> 01:13:47,131
Secretary Clinton,
President Clinton, John Podesta,
1441
01:13:47,131 --> 01:13:48,841
George Stephanopoulos,
et cetera, et cetera.
1442
01:13:48,841 --> 01:13:52,386
That testimony created
a very significant dilemma
1443
01:13:52,386 --> 01:13:54,889
for the Clinton campaign team.
1444
01:13:54,889 --> 01:14:00,728
The political initiative forces
the Clinton campaign team,
1445
01:14:00,728 --> 01:14:03,230
which included Barack Obama--
he was on the team--
1446
01:14:03,230 --> 01:14:05,775
to speak to the issue.
1447
01:14:05,775 --> 01:14:09,862
Are we ready to go win
an election in November?
1448
01:14:09,862 --> 01:14:11,656
(crowd cheering)
1449
01:14:11,656 --> 01:14:14,659
NARRATOR: Clinton's campaign
chairman, John Podesta,
1450
01:14:14,659 --> 01:14:17,328
is well known
for his interest in UFO
1451
01:14:17,328 --> 01:14:22,333
and extraterrestrial encounters,
and according to him, so is she.
1452
01:14:24,251 --> 01:14:26,629
Secretary Clinton, likewise,
1453
01:14:26,629 --> 01:14:28,756
was also kind of interested
in the topic,
1454
01:14:28,756 --> 01:14:31,717
and during the course
of the campaign said
1455
01:14:31,717 --> 01:14:33,761
that, if elected,
she would have ordered
1456
01:14:33,761 --> 01:14:36,639
a more thorough
declassification review.
1457
01:14:36,639 --> 01:14:39,225
She was very open.
She did not skirt the issue.
1458
01:14:39,225 --> 01:14:40,977
She talked about it very openly.
1459
01:14:40,977 --> 01:14:44,313
NARRATOR: Many believe
that had Clinton won,
1460
01:14:44,313 --> 01:14:46,190
there would have been
a seismic shift
1461
01:14:46,190 --> 01:14:49,151
from the government's
long-held policy of secrecy
1462
01:14:49,151 --> 01:14:55,074
concerning UFO investigations to
a new policy of full disclosure.
1463
01:14:55,074 --> 01:14:57,827
PODESTA:
The system of regulation
1464
01:14:57,827 --> 01:15:01,914
that creates our secrecy
system-- what's top secret,
1465
01:15:01,914 --> 01:15:05,042
what's confidential, these
lower levels of classification--
1466
01:15:05,042 --> 01:15:09,005
that's regulated and has been
since the Truman administration
1467
01:15:09,005 --> 01:15:11,424
by executive order
of the president.
1468
01:15:11,424 --> 01:15:16,637
The president sets forward the
general rules of classification.
1469
01:15:16,637 --> 01:15:18,723
And some presidents
have been more forthcoming,
1470
01:15:18,723 --> 01:15:20,683
wanted less secrecy.
1471
01:15:20,683 --> 01:15:24,603
Some have tightened the reins
and wanted more secrecy.
1472
01:15:24,603 --> 01:15:25,813
It makes a difference.
1473
01:15:25,813 --> 01:15:28,649
BASSETT:
The CIA and the Pentagon--
1474
01:15:28,649 --> 01:15:32,153
they were worried about Hillary
Clinton, Secretary Clinton,
1475
01:15:32,153 --> 01:15:34,780
all the statements she was
making, winning the presidency,
1476
01:15:34,780 --> 01:15:36,699
and going to the Pentagon
and basically saying,
1477
01:15:36,699 --> 01:15:38,784
"You are going to give me
the information I need
1478
01:15:38,784 --> 01:15:40,494
"to disclose
the extraterrestrial presence,
1479
01:15:40,494 --> 01:15:43,205
or I'm gonna fire
every single one of you."
1480
01:15:43,205 --> 01:15:48,461
As this year of 2016
went forward, we all expected
1481
01:15:48,461 --> 01:15:51,380
that this headline
that we've been waiting for
1482
01:15:51,380 --> 01:15:55,092
that is going
to break the protocol,
1483
01:15:55,092 --> 01:15:59,263
break the policy of denial,
was going to happen.
1484
01:15:59,263 --> 01:16:02,266
John Podesta was trying
to get ready
1485
01:16:02,266 --> 01:16:05,144
to open up that we're not alone
in the universe.
1486
01:16:05,144 --> 01:16:08,147
All of that crashed
1487
01:16:08,147 --> 01:16:12,359
when a different person became
President of the United States.
1488
01:16:12,359 --> 01:16:16,363
NARRATOR:
November 8, 2016,
1489
01:16:16,363 --> 01:16:20,159
Donald Trump was elected
as America's next president.
1490
01:16:20,159 --> 01:16:24,371
There would be no disclosure
of the secret UFO files.
1491
01:16:24,371 --> 01:16:27,541
PODESTA:
I've had a number of
1492
01:16:27,541 --> 01:16:29,668
members of Congress,
1493
01:16:29,668 --> 01:16:32,922
members of the U. S. Senate
say to me, "Keep going at this.
1494
01:16:32,922 --> 01:16:35,716
I'm really interested in it, but
I can't say anything about it."
1495
01:16:35,716 --> 01:16:38,260
NARRATOR:
But as a longtime advisor
1496
01:16:38,260 --> 01:16:40,387
to President Barack Obama,
1497
01:16:40,387 --> 01:16:44,058
John Podesta still had an ally
in the White House,
1498
01:16:44,058 --> 01:16:47,311
one who would remain there
for another two months.
1499
01:16:51,273 --> 01:16:55,486
January 17, 2017.
1500
01:16:55,486 --> 01:16:58,364
In Barack Obama's
last days as president,
1501
01:16:58,364 --> 01:17:01,283
the CIA posts on its website
1502
01:17:01,283 --> 01:17:04,954
nearly 13 million pages
of agency documents,
1503
01:17:04,954 --> 01:17:08,666
many of which pertain to UFOs.
1504
01:17:08,666 --> 01:17:13,546
It was a very, very big deal,
and people were excited.
1505
01:17:13,546 --> 01:17:18,134
All of these things
were efforts, I believe,
1506
01:17:18,134 --> 01:17:20,761
to educate people and to move us
1507
01:17:20,761 --> 01:17:26,183
in a direction that we can
accept, as a society,
1508
01:17:26,183 --> 01:17:29,103
that extraterrestrials are here
1509
01:17:29,103 --> 01:17:32,565
and have been here
for thousands of years.
1510
01:17:35,693 --> 01:17:39,029
NARRATOR: Investigator Chase
Kloetzke and author Nick Pope
1511
01:17:39,029 --> 01:17:41,240
have been searching for proof
1512
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:43,534
that the U. S. government has
been hiding its interactions
1513
01:17:43,534 --> 01:17:45,578
with extraterrestrials.
1514
01:17:45,578 --> 01:17:48,789
Now they hope to find
new evidence among
1515
01:17:48,789 --> 01:17:52,501
the millions
of recently declassified pages.
1516
01:17:52,501 --> 01:17:54,253
Well, there's such a lot
to go through.
1517
01:17:54,253 --> 01:17:57,047
-KLOETZKE: Exactly.
-It comes back
to the old saying,
1518
01:17:57,047 --> 01:18:00,301
the best place
to hide a book is in a library.
1519
01:18:00,301 --> 01:18:04,305
And there are all sorts of gems
in here, I'm sure,
1520
01:18:04,305 --> 01:18:06,223
but, um, how would we ever know?
1521
01:18:06,223 --> 01:18:08,559
We've got to go through it
literally page by page,
1522
01:18:08,559 --> 01:18:10,477
-line by line.
-Right.
1523
01:18:10,477 --> 01:18:13,230
So we're taking a look
at this report.
1524
01:18:13,230 --> 01:18:15,441
December 1960.
1525
01:18:15,441 --> 01:18:17,526
This has come from Detroit,
1526
01:18:17,526 --> 01:18:22,573
and it's a sighting of
unidentified objects in the sky.
1527
01:18:22,573 --> 01:18:25,868
"Like a disc," it says,
1528
01:18:25,868 --> 01:18:28,078
which again, is something
I'm sure you've come across
1529
01:18:28,078 --> 01:18:29,747
in-in various reports,
as have I.
1530
01:18:29,747 --> 01:18:31,373
Yes, many.
1531
01:18:31,373 --> 01:18:33,709
POPE: And yet,
it has these redactions on it.
1532
01:18:33,709 --> 01:18:35,878
And again,
the question arises: Why?
1533
01:18:35,878 --> 01:18:40,090
If this subject is so
unclassified and unimportant,
1534
01:18:40,090 --> 01:18:41,926
why all these redactions?
1535
01:18:41,926 --> 01:18:44,470
-And this next document.
-Oh, wow. That's crazy.
1536
01:18:44,470 --> 01:18:47,473
KLOETZKE:
Right? Why even bother?
1537
01:18:47,473 --> 01:18:51,018
Only information is... the date.
1538
01:18:51,018 --> 01:18:53,520
13 million documents.
1539
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:56,440
If there really was
a smoking gun in there,
1540
01:18:56,440 --> 01:18:58,651
it would be
almost impossible to find.
1541
01:19:02,404 --> 01:19:05,532
NARRATOR: So far,
the CIA archive has revealed
1542
01:19:05,532 --> 01:19:07,534
thousands of reports
of sightings
1543
01:19:07,534 --> 01:19:09,954
of unexplained aircraft.
1544
01:19:09,954 --> 01:19:13,207
One report said that,
of 1,500 official accounts
1545
01:19:13,207 --> 01:19:16,126
of UFOs since 1947,
1546
01:19:16,126 --> 01:19:20,756
an incredible 20%
remain unexplained.
1547
01:19:20,756 --> 01:19:24,718
But was the release
of the CIA online archive
1548
01:19:24,718 --> 01:19:30,182
another step towards disclosure
or a way to bury the truth?
1549
01:19:30,182 --> 01:19:33,686
When the Pentagon's
classified study into UFOs--
1550
01:19:33,686 --> 01:19:36,689
the Advanced Aerial Threat
Identification Program--
1551
01:19:36,689 --> 01:19:40,359
was uncovered later in 2017,
1552
01:19:40,359 --> 01:19:42,569
journalists
and researchers rushed
1553
01:19:42,569 --> 01:19:46,073
to file Freedom of Information
Act requests.
1554
01:19:46,073 --> 01:19:50,369
Will these files finally explain
what the government knows?
1555
01:19:56,375 --> 01:19:59,378
NARRATOR: 11 months after
the CIA's archive
1556
01:19:59,378 --> 01:20:02,047
is released
to the public in 2017,
1557
01:20:02,047 --> 01:20:04,717
The New York Times story
reveals
1558
01:20:04,717 --> 01:20:06,885
the Department of Defense's
AATIP--
1559
01:20:06,885 --> 01:20:10,514
or Advanced Aerospace Threat
Identification Program.
1560
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:16,395
NARRATOR:
As soon as the story breaks,
1561
01:20:16,395 --> 01:20:18,981
journalists and researchers
start filing
1562
01:20:18,981 --> 01:20:23,527
Freedom of Information Act
requests, known as FOIA.
1563
01:20:23,527 --> 01:20:30,200
There have now been 1,500 to
2,000 FOIAs on this program--
1564
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:32,328
$22 million program--
1565
01:20:32,328 --> 01:20:34,204
and the government
at this point is saying,
1566
01:20:34,204 --> 01:20:35,664
"Program? What program?"
1567
01:20:35,664 --> 01:20:37,207
They're playing
the same old game.
1568
01:20:37,207 --> 01:20:38,792
"We didn't release those films."
1569
01:20:38,792 --> 01:20:40,252
But they're under
so much pressure.
1570
01:20:40,252 --> 01:20:42,713
BASSET:
If this keeps up for even
1571
01:20:42,713 --> 01:20:44,882
four, five or six more months,
1572
01:20:44,882 --> 01:20:49,511
I do not imagine how
disclosure can not take place.
1573
01:20:49,511 --> 01:20:52,931
PODESTA: Much of what was
undertaken and reviewed
1574
01:20:52,931 --> 01:20:55,351
still remains in the dark,
1575
01:20:55,351 --> 01:20:58,645
in classified form
at the Department of Defense.
1576
01:20:58,645 --> 01:21:01,273
I would hope that
they would declassify it
1577
01:21:01,273 --> 01:21:03,150
and release as much as possible.
1578
01:21:03,150 --> 01:21:05,444
-Good afternoon.
-MAN: Good afternoon.
1579
01:21:05,444 --> 01:21:08,322
CAMERON: When this story broke
in The New York Times...
1580
01:21:08,322 --> 01:21:10,282
-Jordan.
-CAMERON: ...guy by the name of
1581
01:21:10,282 --> 01:21:13,619
Jordan Fabian from The Hill--
he asks Sarah Sanders
1582
01:21:13,619 --> 01:21:15,954
the $64,000 question.
1583
01:21:15,954 --> 01:21:18,832
Does the president believe
in the existence of UFOs,
1584
01:21:18,832 --> 01:21:20,834
and would he be interested
1585
01:21:20,834 --> 01:21:22,336
in restoring funding
for that program?
1586
01:21:22,336 --> 01:21:24,463
Somehow that question
hasn't come up
1587
01:21:24,463 --> 01:21:27,549
in our back and forth over the
last couple days, but I will,
1588
01:21:27,549 --> 01:21:31,804
uh, check into that and be happy
to circle back. Jennifer?
1589
01:21:31,804 --> 01:21:34,556
CAMERON: As far as I know,
she has never come back around,
1590
01:21:34,556 --> 01:21:36,350
because you can't.
1591
01:21:36,350 --> 01:21:38,435
The president
has to stay out of it.
1592
01:21:38,435 --> 01:21:41,522
They want the community
to force the issue.
1593
01:21:41,522 --> 01:21:43,440
They want us to force the issue.
1594
01:21:43,440 --> 01:21:47,111
And that is why they moved it
to Bob Bigelow,
1595
01:21:47,111 --> 01:21:49,988
who's a contractor in Las Vegas.
1596
01:21:49,988 --> 01:21:53,033
It's private industry
that will do the disclosure.
1597
01:21:53,033 --> 01:21:55,494
BASSETT: History is
about to happen at a level
1598
01:21:55,494 --> 01:21:59,498
that's almost incalculable,
extraordinary, unprecedented.
1599
01:21:59,498 --> 01:22:03,127
It makes something like
the Roman Empire look trivial.
1600
01:22:03,127 --> 01:22:05,462
So, just think about that.
1601
01:22:05,462 --> 01:22:07,256
The announcement of
the extraterrestrial presence,
1602
01:22:07,256 --> 01:22:09,174
worldwide engagement,
1603
01:22:09,174 --> 01:22:12,261
open contacts
with multiple civilizations.
1604
01:22:12,261 --> 01:22:16,473
The revelations
about AATIP may be clues
1605
01:22:16,473 --> 01:22:18,642
that there's an agenda here.
1606
01:22:18,642 --> 01:22:22,354
This may be government trying
1607
01:22:22,354 --> 01:22:25,774
to slowly drip-feed this
information out to the public
1608
01:22:25,774 --> 01:22:29,486
in such a way that there
won't be out-and-out panic.
1609
01:22:29,486 --> 01:22:31,822
It may be a way
1610
01:22:31,822 --> 01:22:37,035
of slowly but surely
acclimatizing people
1611
01:22:37,035 --> 01:22:39,955
to the reality
of this phenomenon.
1612
01:22:39,955 --> 01:22:43,667
TSOUKALOS: The fact that
The New York Times published
1613
01:22:43,667 --> 01:22:46,920
a Pentagon story
is extraordinary.
1614
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:50,716
And nobody really cared, so,
1615
01:22:50,716 --> 01:22:55,679
to me, that means that
while we are all talking about
1616
01:22:55,679 --> 01:22:58,390
that we may be connected
to extraterrestrials,
1617
01:22:58,390 --> 01:23:01,435
that this knowledge
is within us.
1618
01:23:01,435 --> 01:23:05,898
It's hardwired, so that,
hey, if they're coming,
1619
01:23:05,898 --> 01:23:09,234
it won't be panic
because we come from them.
1620
01:23:09,234 --> 01:23:13,322
I do think that the world is
ready for this knowledge,
1621
01:23:13,322 --> 01:23:17,284
and I think that it would be
the most revolutionary story
1622
01:23:17,284 --> 01:23:19,453
in the history of mankind.
1623
01:23:22,623 --> 01:23:25,209
NARRATOR:
Has the time finally come
1624
01:23:25,209 --> 01:23:27,711
when not only
the United States government
1625
01:23:27,711 --> 01:23:32,508
but nations around the world
will reveal what UFO researchers
1626
01:23:32,508 --> 01:23:36,386
and ancient astronaut theorists
have long suspected:
1627
01:23:36,386 --> 01:23:39,473
that extraterrestrial visitation
of our planet
1628
01:23:39,473 --> 01:23:42,434
is not only real,
but has been happening
1629
01:23:42,434 --> 01:23:44,895
for thousands of years?
1630
01:23:44,895 --> 01:23:49,775
There are many who believe
the answer is a profound yes,
1631
01:23:49,775 --> 01:23:53,028
and that the truth will lead
to a greater understanding
1632
01:23:53,028 --> 01:23:58,116
not only of mankind's past,
but of its future,
1633
01:23:58,116 --> 01:24:01,245
a future that will see humans
1634
01:24:01,245 --> 01:24:04,456
as the torchbearers
of a new generation,
1635
01:24:04,456 --> 01:24:09,253
and as the extraterrestrial
visitors of planets and galaxies
1636
01:24:09,253 --> 01:24:11,797
far beyond our own.
1637
01:24:11,797 --> 01:24:16,260
CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY
A+E NETWORKS
1638
01:24:16,260 --> 01:24:18,929
ou look at the face,
it's keeping record
1639
01:24:18,929 --> 01:24:21,932
not only of Egypt,
but the whole world.
1640
01:24:24,309 --> 01:24:26,019
Three, two, one.
Let it go.
1641
01:24:26,019 --> 01:24:28,105
We're trying to find microbes
1642
01:24:28,105 --> 01:24:29,565
coming from
the upper atmosphere.
1643
01:24:29,565 --> 01:24:30,983
We're gonna recreate
1644
01:24:30,983 --> 01:24:34,319
the exact flight path
over the Bermuda Triangle.
1645
01:24:34,319 --> 01:24:36,613
This is when you experienced
this time vortex?
1646
01:24:36,613 --> 01:24:39,491
I traveled 100 miles
in only three minutes.
1647
01:24:39,491 --> 01:24:40,951
DAVID CHILDRESS:
Wow!
1648
01:24:42,452 --> 01:24:44,288
Every block is bigger
than this car.
1649
01:24:44,288 --> 01:24:44,997
GIORGIO TSOUKALOS:
Insane!
1650
01:24:46,623 --> 01:24:48,834
The reason this pyramid
is the most magnificent
1651
01:24:48,834 --> 01:24:50,919
is what you're about to see
inside the Great Pyramid.
1652
01:24:50,919 --> 01:24:52,045
TSOUKALOS:
This is incredible.
1653
01:24:52,045 --> 01:24:53,463
That's historic,
1654
01:24:53,463 --> 01:24:54,673
that we've actually seen it.
1655
01:24:54,673 --> 01:24:57,092
The possibility that
in the past,
1656
01:24:57,092 --> 01:24:59,845
we had interactions with an
extraterrestrial civilization.
1657
01:24:59,845 --> 01:25:00,887
You can't rule it out.
1658
01:25:00,887 --> 01:25:02,222
We have an impulse within us
1659
01:25:02,222 --> 01:25:04,766
to explore, to discover.
1660
01:25:04,766 --> 01:25:06,727
-There is where Area 51 is.
-Oh, wow.
1661
01:25:06,727 --> 01:25:09,021
What we actually
1662
01:25:09,021 --> 01:25:11,021
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