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>> male narrator: IF YOU ASK
MANY AMERICANS:
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MANY AMERICANS:
WHO DISCOVERED AMERICA?
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WHO DISCOVERED AMERICA?
THEY'LL TELL YOU IT WAS
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THEY'LL TELL YOU IT WAS
CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS.
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CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS.
FOR GENERATIONS, THAT'S WHAT
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FOR GENERATIONS, THAT'S WHAT
THE HISTORY BOOKS SAID,
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THE HISTORY BOOKS SAID,
BUT THE HISTORY BOOKS
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BUT THE HISTORY BOOKS
WERE WRONG.
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WERE WRONG.
A JOURNEY INTO THE FAR REACHES
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A JOURNEY INTO THE FAR REACHES
OF ANTIQUITY TURNS UP TALES
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OF ANTIQUITY TURNS UP TALES
OF EXPLORERS WHO ARRIVED
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OF EXPLORERS WHO ARRIVED
IN THE NEW WORLD
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IN THE NEW WORLD
THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO.
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THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO.
CHARTED ON A MAP, THEIR VOYAGES
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CHARTED ON A MAP, THEIR VOYAGES
LOOK LIKE A MARITIME INVASION,
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LOOK LIKE A MARITIME INVASION,
ONE THAT STARTED
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ONE THAT STARTED
NOT JUST BEFORE COLUMBUS
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NOT JUST BEFORE COLUMBUS
BUT BEFORE CHRIST.
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BUT BEFORE CHRIST.
>> WHY ARE PEOPLE SO FIXED ON
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>> WHY ARE PEOPLE SO FIXED ON
COLUMBUS DISCOVERING
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COLUMBUS DISCOVERING
THE NEW WORLD?
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THE NEW WORLD?
IT'S HARD TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
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IT'S HARD TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
>> IN THE PAST, TRANSPACIFIC
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>> IN THE PAST, TRANSPACIFIC
AND TRANSATLANTIC VOYAGING
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AND TRANSATLANTIC VOYAGING
WAS EASIER THAN PEOPLE THINK.
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WAS EASIER THAN PEOPLE THINK.
HUMAN BEINGS ARE RESTLESS.
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HUMAN BEINGS ARE RESTLESS.
THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEONE WHO'S
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THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEONE WHO'S
LOOKING OVER THE HORIZON.
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LOOKING OVER THE HORIZON.
>> narrator: NOW WE REBUILD
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>> narrator: NOW WE REBUILD
THE SHIPS, TRACE THE ROUTES,
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THE SHIPS, TRACE THE ROUTES,
TEST THE ARTIFACTS, AND ANALYZE
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TEST THE ARTIFACTS, AND ANALYZE
BLOOD EVIDENCE TO FINALLY LEARN
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BLOOD EVIDENCE TO FINALLY LEARN
THE ANSWER TO ONE OF THE
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THE ANSWER TO ONE OF THE
GREATEST MYSTERIES OF ALL TIME:
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GREATEST MYSTERIES OF ALL TIME:
WHO REALLY DISCOVERED AMERICA?
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IN 1492, COLUMBUS SAILED
THE OCEAN BLUE.
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THE OCEAN BLUE.
IT'S ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS
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IT'S ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS
VERSES IN AMERICAN HISTORY.
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VERSES IN AMERICAN HISTORY.
BUT WE ARE STARTING TO CHALLENGE
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BUT WE ARE STARTING TO CHALLENGE
THE IDEA HE WAS THE FIRST TO
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THE IDEA HE WAS THE FIRST TO
DISCOVER THE NEW WORLD.
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DISCOVER THE NEW WORLD.
NEW EVIDENCE SUGGESTS THAT
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NEW EVIDENCE SUGGESTS THAT
AMERICA WAS A VERITABLE
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AMERICA WAS A VERITABLE
GRAND CENTRAL STATION FOR
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GRAND CENTRAL STATION FOR
THE WORLD'S PEOPLE
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THE WORLD'S PEOPLE
WELL BEFORE HIS TIME.
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WELL BEFORE HIS TIME.
>> THE IDEA THAT COLUMBUS
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>> THE IDEA THAT COLUMBUS
DISCOVERED AMERICA,
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DISCOVERED AMERICA,
THAT'S A MYTH LIKE OTHER MYTHS.
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THAT'S A MYTH LIKE OTHER MYTHS.
>> TO DISBELIEVE THAT, IT'S
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>> TO DISBELIEVE THAT, IT'S
ALMOST LIKE BELIEVING THE EARTH
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ALMOST LIKE BELIEVING THE EARTH
HAS TO BE FLAT IN THE FACE OF
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HAS TO BE FLAT IN THE FACE OF
ALL THE EVIDENCE WE HAVE.
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ALL THE EVIDENCE WE HAVE.
>> narrator: THERE'S NO DOUBT
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>> narrator: THERE'S NO DOUBT
NATIVE AMERICANS WERE ALREADY
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NATIVE AMERICANS WERE ALREADY
HERE WHEN COLUMBUS ARRIVED.
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HERE WHEN COLUMBUS ARRIVED.
THE BERING STRAIT LAND BRIDGE
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THE BERING STRAIT LAND BRIDGE
THEORY SUGGESTS THEIR ANCESTORS
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THEORY SUGGESTS THEIR ANCESTORS
CROSSED FROM ASIA TO NORTH
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CROSSED FROM ASIA TO NORTH
AMERICA 18,000 YEARS AGO DURING
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AMERICA 18,000 YEARS AGO DURING
THE LAST ICE AGE WHEN A STRIP
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THE LAST ICE AGE WHEN A STRIP
OF LAND CONNECTED THE TWO
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OF LAND CONNECTED THE TWO
CONTINENTS.
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CONTINENTS.
COLUMBUS ONLY GOT CREDIT FOR
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COLUMBUS ONLY GOT CREDIT FOR
THE DISCOVERY OF THE NEW WORLD
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THE DISCOVERY OF THE NEW WORLD
BECAUSE, IN EUROPE'S EYES,
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BECAUSE, IN EUROPE'S EYES,
THE LAND WAS RIPE
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THE LAND WAS RIPE
FOR THE TAKING.
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FOR THE TAKING.
>> COLUMBUS OPENED A NEW ERA
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>> COLUMBUS OPENED A NEW ERA
OF ECONOMIC EXPLOITATION.
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OF ECONOMIC EXPLOITATION.
AND THAT'S WHAT MADE IT
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AND THAT'S WHAT MADE IT
SIGNIFICANT--WERE THE ECONOMIC
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SIGNIFICANT--WERE THE ECONOMIC
MARKETS THAT WERE OPENED UP
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MARKETS THAT WERE OPENED UP
IN EUROPE BECAUSE OF WHAT
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IN EUROPE BECAUSE OF WHAT
THE NEW WORLD HAD TO OFFER.
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THE NEW WORLD HAD TO OFFER.
>> narrator: EUROPE WAS
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>> narrator: EUROPE WAS
AWESTRUCK, AND COLUMBUS
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AWESTRUCK, AND COLUMBUS
WAS REVERED.
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WAS REVERED.
HISTORIANS CREDITED HIM WITH
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HISTORIANS CREDITED HIM WITH
THE DISCOVERY OF AMERICA.
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THE DISCOVERY OF AMERICA.
BUT TODAY A NEW HISTORY BEGINS,
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BUT TODAY A NEW HISTORY BEGINS,
AND IT STARTS ON THE OTHER SIDE
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AND IT STARTS ON THE OTHER SIDE
OF THE GLOBE.
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OF THE GLOBE.
CHINA, 1421,
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CHINA, 1421,
71 YEARS BEFORE COLUMBUS.
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71 YEARS BEFORE COLUMBUS.
ELSEWHERE IN THE WORLD,
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ELSEWHERE IN THE WORLD,
IT'S THE RISE OF THE AZTEC
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IT'S THE RISE OF THE AZTEC
EMPIRE IN CENTRAL AMERICA,
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EMPIRE IN CENTRAL AMERICA,
AND JOAN OF ARC WILL SOON
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AND JOAN OF ARC WILL SOON
LEAD THE FRENCH IN THE
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LEAD THE FRENCH IN THE
HUNDRED YEARS' WAR.
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HUNDRED YEARS' WAR.
IN CHINA, IT'S THE MING DYNASTY
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IN CHINA, IT'S THE MING DYNASTY
UNDER EMPEROR ZHU DI.
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UNDER EMPEROR ZHU DI.
ADMIRAL ZHENG HE IS IN COMMAND
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ADMIRAL ZHENG HE IS IN COMMAND
OF WHAT WOULD BECOME THE LARGEST
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OF WHAT WOULD BECOME THE LARGEST
MARITIME FLEET IN THE WORLD.
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MARITIME FLEET IN THE WORLD.
>> THE CHINESE, AROUND THE YEAR
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>> THE CHINESE, AROUND THE YEAR
1400, WERE THE WORLD'S GREATEST
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1400, WERE THE WORLD'S GREATEST
MARITIME POWER WITH THE WORLD'S
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MARITIME POWER WITH THE WORLD'S
MOST IMPRESSIVE AND MAGNIFICENT
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MOST IMPRESSIVE AND MAGNIFICENT
SHIPS.
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SHIPS.
THESE SHIPS HAD WATERTIGHT
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THESE SHIPS HAD WATERTIGHT
BULKHEADS WHICH MADE THEM
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BULKHEADS WHICH MADE THEM
PRACTICALLY UNSINKABLE.
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PRACTICALLY UNSINKABLE.
>> narrator: THE LARGEST OF
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>> narrator: THE LARGEST OF
ZHENG HE'S SHIPS WERE SAID TO BE
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ZHENG HE'S SHIPS WERE SAID TO BE
400 FEET LONG AND ABLE TO CARRY
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400 FEET LONG AND ABLE TO CARRY
1,500 TONS AND A CREW
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1,500 TONS AND A CREW
OF 500 MEN.
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OF 500 MEN.
FLANKED BY DOZENS OF
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FLANKED BY DOZENS OF
SMALLER SHIPS CARRYING WATER,
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SMALLER SHIPS CARRYING WATER,
FOOD, AND SUPPLIES,
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FOOD, AND SUPPLIES,
EVEN HIS ENTOURAGE
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EVEN HIS ENTOURAGE
WAS WORTHY OF ENVY.
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WAS WORTHY OF ENVY.
>> THEY HAD HULLS IN WHICH
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>> THEY HAD HULLS IN WHICH
THEY HAD LIVE FISH.
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THEY HAD LIVE FISH.
THEY HAD COOPS OF CHICKENS.
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THEY HAD COOPS OF CHICKENS.
THEY HAD RICE GROWING IN TUBS.
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THEY HAD RICE GROWING IN TUBS.
THEY HAD BEAN SHOOTS
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THEY HAD BEAN SHOOTS
FOR VITAMINS.
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FOR VITAMINS.
>> HAD THEY SET THEIR MIND
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>> HAD THEY SET THEIR MIND
TO IT, I THINK THEY
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TO IT, I THINK THEY
COULD HAVE GONE ANYWHERE.
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>> narrator: THERE IS NO
QUESTION ZHENG HE'S FLEET
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QUESTION ZHENG HE'S FLEET
TRAVELED FROM NANJING, CHINA,
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TRAVELED FROM NANJING, CHINA,
TO SUMATRA, INDIA, IRAN,
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TO SUMATRA, INDIA, IRAN,
AND THE COAST OF AFRICA,
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AND THE COAST OF AFRICA,
ESTABLISHING FOREIGN RELATIONS
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ESTABLISHING FOREIGN RELATIONS
AND EXPANDING TRADE.
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AND EXPANDING TRADE.
BUT WHY STOP THERE?
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BUT WHY STOP THERE?
THIS STRANGE MAP DRAWN BY
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THIS STRANGE MAP DRAWN BY
RENOWNED CARTOGRAPHER
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RENOWNED CARTOGRAPHER
FATHER MAURO IN 1459 COULD BE
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FATHER MAURO IN 1459 COULD BE
THE KEY TO PROVING THEY DIDN'T.
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THE KEY TO PROVING THEY DIDN'T.
>> IT SHOWED ME THAT THE CHINESE
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>> IT SHOWED ME THAT THE CHINESE
HAD BEEN SAILING AROUND AFRICA
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HAD BEEN SAILING AROUND AFRICA
CERTAINLY LONG, LONG BEFORE
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CERTAINLY LONG, LONG BEFORE
COLUMBUS, BECAUSE THEY SHOW
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COLUMBUS, BECAUSE THEY SHOW
THE ATLANTIC.
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THE ATLANTIC.
>> narrator: THOUGH THE MAP
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>> narrator: THOUGH THE MAP
LOOKS UPSIDE DOWN TO US,
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LOOKS UPSIDE DOWN TO US,
IT SHOWS WHAT LOOKS LIKE
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IT SHOWS WHAT LOOKS LIKE
A CHINESE JUNK ROUNDING THE TIP
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A CHINESE JUNK ROUNDING THE TIP
OF AFRICA AROUND 1420.
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OF AFRICA AROUND 1420.
THE SHIP WAS SAID TO HAVE
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THE SHIP WAS SAID TO HAVE
FOUR MASTS AND AN ASTROLOGER
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FOUR MASTS AND AN ASTROLOGER
WHO USED THE SUN AND STARS TO
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WHO USED THE SUN AND STARS TO
TELL THE NAVIGATOR WHERE TO GO.
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TELL THE NAVIGATOR WHERE TO GO.
IT'S A NEAR-PERFECT DESCRIPTION
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IT'S A NEAR-PERFECT DESCRIPTION
OF ONE OF ZHENG HE'S SHIPS,
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OF ONE OF ZHENG HE'S SHIPS,
A REPLICA OF WHICH CAN BE SEEN
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A REPLICA OF WHICH CAN BE SEEN
IN NANJING, CHINA,
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IN NANJING, CHINA,
WHERE ZHENG HE ORIGINALLY
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WHERE ZHENG HE ORIGINALLY
SET SAIL.
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SET SAIL.
>> AS WE KNOW FROM THE RECORDS
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>> AS WE KNOW FROM THE RECORDS
IN CHINA, HE WAS SENT ACROSS
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IN CHINA, HE WAS SENT ACROSS
THE WORLD TO THE AMERICAS,
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THE WORLD TO THE AMERICAS,
TO AFRICA, EVERYWHERE.
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TO AFRICA, EVERYWHERE.
>> narrator: THE MAP SAYS
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>> narrator: THE MAP SAYS
THE SHIP WENT 2,000 MILES
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THE SHIP WENT 2,000 MILES
INTO THE ATLANTIC.
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INTO THE ATLANTIC.
WHERE TO, IT DOESN'T SAY.
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WHERE TO, IT DOESN'T SAY.
BUT COULD ZHENG HE HAVE WRITTEN
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BUT COULD ZHENG HE HAVE WRITTEN
ABOUT FINDING AMERICA IN
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ABOUT FINDING AMERICA IN
HIS OWN ACCOUNT?
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100,000 LI IS ABOUT
30,000 MILES, ROUGHLY
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30,000 MILES, ROUGHLY
THE DISTANCE FROM THE PORT
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THE DISTANCE FROM THE PORT
IN NANJING TO THE AMERICAS
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IN NANJING TO THE AMERICAS
AND BACK.
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AND BACK.
AUTHOR GAVIN MENZIES BELIEVES
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AUTHOR GAVIN MENZIES BELIEVES
THERE IS PROOF OF THE VOYAGE
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THERE IS PROOF OF THE VOYAGE
JUST OFF BIMINI ISLAND
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JUST OFF BIMINI ISLAND
IN THE BAHAMAS.
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IN THE BAHAMAS.
>> SOMEBODY WAS THERE A HELL
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>> SOMEBODY WAS THERE A HELL
OF A LONG TIME AGO AND BUILT
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OF A LONG TIME AGO AND BUILT
THIS ROAD, AND I SAY
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THIS ROAD, AND I SAY
IT WAS A BREAKWATER
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IT WAS A BREAKWATER
AND A SLIPWAY.
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AND A SLIPWAY.
>> narrator: SUBMERGED
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>> narrator: SUBMERGED
LIMESTONE BLOCKS SIT PERFECTLY
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LIMESTONE BLOCKS SIT PERFECTLY
ALIGNED FOR 1/2 MILE,
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ALIGNED FOR 1/2 MILE,
MAKING UP WHAT'S CALLED
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MAKING UP WHAT'S CALLED
THE BIMINI ROAD.
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THE BIMINI ROAD.
MOST GEOLOGISTS SAY
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MOST GEOLOGISTS SAY
IT'S JUST A NATURALLY OCCURRING
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IT'S JUST A NATURALLY OCCURRING
CONFIGURATION OF BEACH ROCK,
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CONFIGURATION OF BEACH ROCK,
PROOF OF NOTHING MORE THAN
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PROOF OF NOTHING MORE THAN
THE POWER OF MOTHER NATURE.
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THE POWER OF MOTHER NATURE.
BUT GAVIN MENZIES SUSPECTS
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BUT GAVIN MENZIES SUSPECTS
IT WAS BUILT BY THE CHINESE AS
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IT WAS BUILT BY THE CHINESE AS
A DRY DOCK SLIP, WHERE THEY
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A DRY DOCK SLIP, WHERE THEY
COULD DOCK A SHIP FOR REPAIRS.
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COULD DOCK A SHIP FOR REPAIRS.
>> I SAY IF YOU TOOK 100 PEOPLE
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>> I SAY IF YOU TOOK 100 PEOPLE
TO BIMINI AND SWAM OVER
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TO BIMINI AND SWAM OVER
THAT THING, 99--AT LEAST 99
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THAT THING, 99--AT LEAST 99
OF THE 100 WOULD SAY
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OF THE 100 WOULD SAY
OF COURSE IT'S MAN-MADE.
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OF COURSE IT'S MAN-MADE.
IF I WAS COMPLETELY WRONG,
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IF I WAS COMPLETELY WRONG,
IT WOULDN'T REALLY AFFECT
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IT WOULDN'T REALLY AFFECT
THE OVERALL STORY, BECAUSE WE'VE
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THE OVERALL STORY, BECAUSE WE'VE
FOUND OUT SO MUCH SINCE THEN.
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FOUND OUT SO MUCH SINCE THEN.
>> narrator: IT TURNS OUT
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>> narrator: IT TURNS OUT
THERE MAY BE EVIDENCE THAT
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THERE MAY BE EVIDENCE THAT
ZHENG HE MADE IT TO AMERICA
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ZHENG HE MADE IT TO AMERICA
EVEN EARLIER THAN 1421.
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EVEN EARLIER THAN 1421.
>> I WAS CERTAIN THAT WE WOULD
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>> I WAS CERTAIN THAT WE WOULD
FIND ONE DAY THE MASTER MAP OF
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FIND ONE DAY THE MASTER MAP OF
THE WORLD, THE CHINESE MAP.
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THE WORLD, THE CHINESE MAP.
AND HERE IT IS.
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AND HERE IT IS.
IT SHOWED THE WHOLE WORLD,
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IT SHOWED THE WHOLE WORLD,
AS YOU CAN SEE, ACCURATELY.
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AS YOU CAN SEE, ACCURATELY.
THIS MAP WAS PRODUCED AS
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THIS MAP WAS PRODUCED AS
A RESULT OF THE VOYAGES OF
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A RESULT OF THE VOYAGES OF
ZHENG HE, HIS VOYAGES
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ZHENG HE, HIS VOYAGES
TO THE BARBARIANS.
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TO THE BARBARIANS.
>> narrator: THE PERSON WHO
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>> narrator: THE PERSON WHO
MADE THIS MAP IN 1763
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MADE THIS MAP IN 1763
WROTE ON THE MAP THAT
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WROTE ON THE MAP THAT
HE COPIED IT FROM ONE DRAWN
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HE COPIED IT FROM ONE DRAWN
CENTURIES EARLIER IN 1418.
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CENTURIES EARLIER IN 1418.
AT THAT TIME, CHINESE RECORDS
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AT THAT TIME, CHINESE RECORDS
SHOW ZHENG HE'S FLEET
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SHOW ZHENG HE'S FLEET
WAS ALREADY TRAVELING
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WAS ALREADY TRAVELING
AS FAR AS AFRICA.
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AS FAR AS AFRICA.
THOUGH THE MAP'S PROVENANCE
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THOUGH THE MAP'S PROVENANCE
ISN'T PROVEN, IF AUTHENTIC,
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ISN'T PROVEN, IF AUTHENTIC,
IT WOULD BE THE FIRST MAP
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IT WOULD BE THE FIRST MAP
OF THE WORLD,
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OF THE WORLD,
AND IT COULD ONLY HAVE BEEN
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AND IT COULD ONLY HAVE BEEN
MADE IF SOMEONE TRAVELED ALONG
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MADE IF SOMEONE TRAVELED ALONG
THE AMERICAN COASTLINE,
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THE AMERICAN COASTLINE,
SOMEONE WHO WAS
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SOMEONE WHO WAS
AN EXPERT NAVIGATOR.
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AN EXPERT NAVIGATOR.
>> THE CHINESE COULD PREDICT
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>> THE CHINESE COULD PREDICT
THE POSITION OF STARS, PLANETS,
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THE POSITION OF STARS, PLANETS,
SUN, AND MOON WHEN THEY ROSE
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SUN, AND MOON WHEN THEY ROSE
ON THE EASTERN HORIZON,
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ON THE EASTERN HORIZON,
WHEN THEY SET.
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WHEN THEY SET.
THEY COULD PREDICT THEIR
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THEY COULD PREDICT THEIR
ACCURACY WITHIN SECONDS.
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ACCURACY WITHIN SECONDS.
>> narrator: USING ASTRONOMY
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>> narrator: USING ASTRONOMY
TO NAVIGATE THE SEAS WAS
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TO NAVIGATE THE SEAS WAS
A TECHNIQUE ZHENG HE READILY
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A TECHNIQUE ZHENG HE READILY
EMPLOYED, BUT COULD
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EMPLOYED, BUT COULD
A BUDDHIST MONK HAVE USED
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A BUDDHIST MONK HAVE USED
THE SAME TECHNIQUE TO MAKE
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THE SAME TECHNIQUE TO MAKE
HIS OWN JOURNEY TO AMERICA
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HIS OWN JOURNEY TO AMERICA
1,000 YEARS EARLIER?
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CHINA, 455 A.D.,
1,037 YEARS BEFORE COLUMBUS.
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1,037 YEARS BEFORE COLUMBUS.
ELSEWHERE IN THE WORLD,
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ELSEWHERE IN THE WORLD,
ATTILA THE HUN'S REIGN
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ATTILA THE HUN'S REIGN
OF TERROR IN THE BALTIC
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OF TERROR IN THE BALTIC
HAS JUST ENDED,
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HAS JUST ENDED,
AND THE MYSTERIOUS NAZCA LINES
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AND THE MYSTERIOUS NAZCA LINES
ARE ETCHED INTO THE ARID
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ARE ETCHED INTO THE ARID
PERUVIAN LANDSCAPE.
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PERUVIAN LANDSCAPE.
IN CHINA, A BUDDHIST MONK NAMED
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IN CHINA, A BUDDHIST MONK NAMED
HUI SHEN SETS SAIL
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HUI SHEN SETS SAIL
FROM THE COAST, TRAVELING
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FROM THE COAST, TRAVELING
TO A LAND HE CALLS FUSANG,
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TO A LAND HE CALLS FUSANG,
WHAT SOME BELIEVE IS AMERICA.
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WHAT SOME BELIEVE IS AMERICA.
UPON HIS RETURN TO CHINA,
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UPON HIS RETURN TO CHINA,
HUI SHEN VIVIDLY DESCRIBED
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HUI SHEN VIVIDLY DESCRIBED
FUSANG, GIVING DETAILS
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FUSANG, GIVING DETAILS
OF PLANTS AND PEOPLE
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OF PLANTS AND PEOPLE
WITH REMARKABLE SIMILARITY
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WITH REMARKABLE SIMILARITY
TO SPECIES NATIVE TO MEXICO.
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TO SPECIES NATIVE TO MEXICO.
HUI SHEN'S JOURNEY IS RECORDED
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HUI SHEN'S JOURNEY IS RECORDED
IN THE BOOK OF LIANG
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IN THE BOOK OF LIANG
AS 20,000 LI ACROSS THE SEA.
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AS 20,000 LI ACROSS THE SEA.
THAT'S ROUGHLY THE DISTANCE
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THAT'S ROUGHLY THE DISTANCE
FROM CHINA TO, OF ALL PLACES,
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FROM CHINA TO, OF ALL PLACES,
CALIFORNIA, SOME 6,000 OR 7,000
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CALIFORNIA, SOME 6,000 OR 7,000
MILES ACROSS OPEN SEA.
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MILES ACROSS OPEN SEA.
IT MAY SEEM FAR FOR A VOYAGER
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IT MAY SEEM FAR FOR A VOYAGER
IN 455 A.D., BUT NEW SCIENCE
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IN 455 A.D., BUT NEW SCIENCE
SHOWS IT WAS POSSIBLE
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SHOWS IT WAS POSSIBLE
IF HUI SHEN TOOK ADVANTAGE
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IF HUI SHEN TOOK ADVANTAGE
OF OCEAN CURRENTS.
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OF OCEAN CURRENTS.
>> THERE ARE STRONG CURRENTS
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>> THERE ARE STRONG CURRENTS
IN THE WESTERN SIDE OF OCEANS
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IN THE WESTERN SIDE OF OCEANS
AND ON THE EQUATOR THAT
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AND ON THE EQUATOR THAT
HAVE BEEN USED BY PEOPLE
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HAVE BEEN USED BY PEOPLE
WHO KNEW ABOUT THEM
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WHO KNEW ABOUT THEM
IN THE ANCIENT WORLD.
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IN THE ANCIENT WORLD.
>> narrator: DR. PETER NIILER
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>> narrator: DR. PETER NIILER
KNOWS A LOT ABOUT
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KNOWS A LOT ABOUT
OCEAN CURRENTS.
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OCEAN CURRENTS.
HE'S THE ONE WHO INVENTED
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HE'S THE ONE WHO INVENTED
THE OCEAN DRIFTERS WE USE
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THE OCEAN DRIFTERS WE USE
TO MEASURE THEM TODAY.
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TO MEASURE THEM TODAY.
>> THIS PART STAYS ON THE
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>> THIS PART STAYS ON THE
OCEAN SURFACE AND COMMUNICATES
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OCEAN SURFACE AND COMMUNICATES
WITH A SATELLITE, AND THE PART
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WITH A SATELLITE, AND THE PART
OVER HERE IS A DROGUE.
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OVER HERE IS A DROGUE.
THAT'S DOWN AT A DEPTH
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THAT'S DOWN AT A DEPTH
OF 45 FEET, AND IT HOLDS ON TO
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OF 45 FEET, AND IT HOLDS ON TO
THE WATER VERY STRONGLY.
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THE WATER VERY STRONGLY.
AND SO THE MOVEMENT OF THE
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AND SO THE MOVEMENT OF THE
WATER AT 45 FEET DOWN IS THEN
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WATER AT 45 FEET DOWN IS THEN
MIRRORED BY THIS SURFACE FLOAT
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MIRRORED BY THIS SURFACE FLOAT
THAT TALKS TO THE SATELLITE.
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THAT TALKS TO THE SATELLITE.
>> narrator: THERE ARE 1,300
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>> narrator: THERE ARE 1,300
OF THESE OCEAN DRIFTERS
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OF THESE OCEAN DRIFTERS
IN THE WORLD'S OCEANS TODAY,
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IN THE WORLD'S OCEANS TODAY,
PROVIDING PRECISE DATA
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PROVIDING PRECISE DATA
ON CURRENTS AND PHENOMENA
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ON CURRENTS AND PHENOMENA
LIKE GYRES, OCEAN WHIRLWINDS
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LIKE GYRES, OCEAN WHIRLWINDS
THAT TRAP THE WORLD'S JUNK
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THAT TRAP THE WORLD'S JUNK
BUT THAT ALSO HELP PROPEL SHIPS.
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BUT THAT ALSO HELP PROPEL SHIPS.
FOR THE FIRST TIME,
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FOR THE FIRST TIME,
THESE DRIFTERS ARE GOING TO BE
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THESE DRIFTERS ARE GOING TO BE
USED TO TACKLE THE QUESTION OF
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USED TO TACKLE THE QUESTION OF
WHO REALLY DISCOVERED AMERICA.
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WHO REALLY DISCOVERED AMERICA.
DR. NIKOLAI MAXIMENKO
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DR. NIKOLAI MAXIMENKO
IS A PHYSICAL OCEANOGRAPHER
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IS A PHYSICAL OCEANOGRAPHER
WHO'S USING NIILER'S DRIFTERS
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WHO'S USING NIILER'S DRIFTERS
TO CALCULATE THE MOST LIKELY
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TO CALCULATE THE MOST LIKELY
ROUTES OF TRAVEL FOR SAILORS
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ROUTES OF TRAVEL FOR SAILORS
SAID TO HAVE DISCOVERED AMERICA
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SAID TO HAVE DISCOVERED AMERICA
BEFORE COLUMBUS,
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BEFORE COLUMBUS,
SAILORS LIKE HUI SHEN.
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SAILORS LIKE HUI SHEN.
MAXIMENKO SAYS HIS VOYAGE
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MAXIMENKO SAYS HIS VOYAGE
WOULD HAVE TAKEN 270 DAYS.
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WOULD HAVE TAKEN 270 DAYS.
>> FASTEST POSSIBLE PATHS
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>> FASTEST POSSIBLE PATHS
ARE SHOWN HERE.
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ARE SHOWN HERE.
THIS IS FROM CHINA TO
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THIS IS FROM CHINA TO
CALIFORNIA, AND THIS IS BACK
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CALIFORNIA, AND THIS IS BACK
FROM CALIFORNIA TO CHINA.
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FROM CALIFORNIA TO CHINA.
IF THE CHINESE SAILOR TOOK
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IF THE CHINESE SAILOR TOOK
THAT PATH, HE RECEIVED
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THAT PATH, HE RECEIVED
PRETTY GOOD HELP FROM
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PRETTY GOOD HELP FROM
OCEAN CURRENTS.
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OCEAN CURRENTS.
>> narrator: BUT WHAT ABOUT
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>> narrator: BUT WHAT ABOUT
PHYSICAL PROOF OF THE TRIP?
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PHYSICAL PROOF OF THE TRIP?
COULD IT BE FOUND NEAR
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COULD IT BE FOUND NEAR
LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA?
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LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA?
>> WELL, WE FOUND THESE ROCKS
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>> WELL, WE FOUND THESE ROCKS
OUT HERE, AND I WAS JUST
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OUT HERE, AND I WAS JUST
INQUISITIVE.
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INQUISITIVE.
I THOUGHT, "WHY WOULD IT HAVE
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I THOUGHT, "WHY WOULD IT HAVE
A PERFECT HOLE IN IT LIKE THAT?"
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A PERFECT HOLE IN IT LIKE THAT?"
>> narrator: IN 1972,
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>> narrator: IN 1972,
BOB MEISTRELL WAS DIVING OFF
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BOB MEISTRELL WAS DIVING OFF
PALOS VERDES IN SOUTHERN
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PALOS VERDES IN SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA, 50 MILES FROM L.A.,
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CALIFORNIA, 50 MILES FROM L.A.,
WHEN HE DISCOVERED A BED OF
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WHEN HE DISCOVERED A BED OF
UNUSUAL STONES ON THE SEAFLOOR.
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UNUSUAL STONES ON THE SEAFLOOR.
>> I JUST WANT TO FIND OUT
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>> I JUST WANT TO FIND OUT
WHAT THEY ARE BEFORE I DIE.
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WHAT THEY ARE BEFORE I DIE.
>> narrator: WHAT ARE THESE
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>> narrator: WHAT ARE THESE
STONES, AND COULD THEY PROVE
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STONES, AND COULD THEY PROVE
HUI SHEN MADE IT TO AMERICA
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HUI SHEN MADE IT TO AMERICA
1,500 YEARS AGO?
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1,500 YEARS AGO?
SCIENCE SETS OUT TO ANSWER
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SCIENCE SETS OUT TO ANSWER
THOSE QUESTIONS AND MORE:
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THOSE QUESTIONS AND MORE:
WHETHER A PRINCE ARRIVED HERE
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WHETHER A PRINCE ARRIVED HERE
IN 1170 OR A PROPHET
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IN 1170 OR A PROPHET
IN 600 B.C., WHETHER
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IN 600 B.C., WHETHER
MOBILE, ALABAMA, WAS AN ANCIENT
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MOBILE, ALABAMA, WAS AN ANCIENT
PORT CITY, AND WHETHER EUROPEANS
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PORT CITY, AND WHETHER EUROPEANS
DID FIND THE NEW WORLD
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DID FIND THE NEW WORLD
MORE THAN 20,000 YEARS
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MORE THAN 20,000 YEARS
BEFORE COLUMBUS.
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>> narrator: AT THE BOTTOM OF
THE SEA LIES A MARITIME MYSTERY.
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THE SEA LIES A MARITIME MYSTERY.
THESE LARGE ROUND STONES,
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THESE LARGE ROUND STONES,
SOME WEIGHING NEARLY 300 POUNDS,
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SOME WEIGHING NEARLY 300 POUNDS,
BEAR A STRIKING RESEMBLANCE
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BEAR A STRIKING RESEMBLANCE
TO STONE ANCHORS USED ON
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00:12:36,089 --> 00:12:38,289
TO STONE ANCHORS USED ON
CHINESE SHIPS AS EARLY AS
371
00:12:38,291 --> 00:12:41,659
CHINESE SHIPS AS EARLY AS
THE TIME OF CHRIST.
372
00:12:41,661 --> 00:12:44,462
THE TIME OF CHRIST.
BOB MEISTRELL, AN AVID DIVER
373
00:12:44,464 --> 00:12:46,297
BOB MEISTRELL, AN AVID DIVER
AND COFOUNDER OF BODY GLOVE,
374
00:12:46,299 --> 00:12:47,999
AND COFOUNDER OF BODY GLOVE,
WAS THE FIRST TO FIND THE STONES
375
00:12:48,001 --> 00:12:51,068
WAS THE FIRST TO FIND THE STONES
BACK IN 1972.
376
00:12:51,070 --> 00:12:52,637
BACK IN 1972.
>> I HOPE IN MY LIFETIME THAT WE
377
00:12:52,639 --> 00:12:54,171
>> I HOPE IN MY LIFETIME THAT WE
FIND OUT WHAT THESE ANCHORS ARE.
378
00:12:54,173 --> 00:12:55,139
FIND OUT WHAT THESE ANCHORS ARE.
THAT'S WHY I'M DOING THIS
379
00:12:55,141 --> 00:12:56,574
THAT'S WHY I'M DOING THIS
INTERVIEW.
380
00:12:56,576 --> 00:12:57,708
INTERVIEW.
THESE ARE A COUPLE OF
381
00:12:57,710 --> 00:12:58,576
THESE ARE A COUPLE OF
STONE ANCHORS.
382
00:12:58,578 --> 00:12:59,577
STONE ANCHORS.
THIS IS THE ORIGINAL ONE
383
00:12:59,579 --> 00:13:00,578
THIS IS THE ORIGINAL ONE
I FOUND.
384
00:13:00,580 --> 00:13:02,013
I FOUND.
IT WEIGHED 280 POUNDS.
385
00:13:02,015 --> 00:13:03,114
IT WEIGHED 280 POUNDS.
WE BROUGHT THIS ONE UP,
386
00:13:03,116 --> 00:13:04,582
WE BROUGHT THIS ONE UP,
AND THEN WE STARTED LOOKING
387
00:13:04,584 --> 00:13:05,483
AND THEN WE STARTED LOOKING
AROUND, AND WE FOUND MORE,
388
00:13:05,485 --> 00:13:07,318
AROUND, AND WE FOUND MORE,
AND THERE'S A TOTAL OF 35 OR 40
389
00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,420
AND THERE'S A TOTAL OF 35 OR 40
STONES OUT THERE.
390
00:13:09,422 --> 00:13:11,355
STONES OUT THERE.
>> I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT
391
00:13:11,357 --> 00:13:13,190
>> I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT
THE STONES IN PALOS VERDES,
392
00:13:13,192 --> 00:13:14,725
THE STONES IN PALOS VERDES,
THE MEISTRELL STONES,
393
00:13:14,727 --> 00:13:17,395
THE MEISTRELL STONES,
ARE IN FACT ANCHORS
394
00:13:17,397 --> 00:13:19,196
ARE IN FACT ANCHORS
OF VARIOUS FORMS,
395
00:13:19,198 --> 00:13:20,197
OF VARIOUS FORMS,
BOTH WEIGHT ANCHORS
396
00:13:20,199 --> 00:13:21,999
BOTH WEIGHT ANCHORS
AND COMPOUND ANCHORS.
397
00:13:22,001 --> 00:13:22,833
AND COMPOUND ANCHORS.
>> narrator: ARCHAEOLOGIST
398
00:13:22,835 --> 00:13:24,368
>> narrator: ARCHAEOLOGIST
LARRY PIERSON WAS AMONG
399
00:13:24,370 --> 00:13:26,270
LARRY PIERSON WAS AMONG
THE FIRST TO EXAMINE THE STONES
400
00:13:26,272 --> 00:13:28,005
THE FIRST TO EXAMINE THE STONES
AND PERFORM WHAT'S CALLED
401
00:13:28,007 --> 00:13:30,875
AND PERFORM WHAT'S CALLED
A LITHOLOGICAL ANALYSIS.
402
00:13:30,877 --> 00:13:32,510
A LITHOLOGICAL ANALYSIS.
>> IT'S A COMPARISON OF
403
00:13:32,512 --> 00:13:35,613
>> IT'S A COMPARISON OF
MICROFOSSILS FROM KNOWN SOURCES
404
00:13:35,615 --> 00:13:38,416
MICROFOSSILS FROM KNOWN SOURCES
WITH THE MICROFOSSILS IN THE
405
00:13:38,418 --> 00:13:39,917
WITH THE MICROFOSSILS IN THE
STONE SAMPLES FROM THE ANCHORS
406
00:13:39,919 --> 00:13:41,252
STONE SAMPLES FROM THE ANCHORS
THEMSELVES.
407
00:13:41,254 --> 00:13:42,620
THEMSELVES.
WE WERE TRYING TO IDENTIFY
408
00:13:42,622 --> 00:13:44,422
WE WERE TRYING TO IDENTIFY
SPECIFIC QUARRIES THAT
409
00:13:44,424 --> 00:13:46,757
SPECIFIC QUARRIES THAT
THE STONES MAY HAVE COME FROM.
410
00:13:46,759 --> 00:13:48,125
THE STONES MAY HAVE COME FROM.
THE RESULTS WERE THAT THESE
411
00:13:48,127 --> 00:13:49,627
THE RESULTS WERE THAT THESE
STONES CAME FROM THE COAST
412
00:13:49,629 --> 00:13:53,197
STONES CAME FROM THE COAST
OF CHINA.
413
00:13:53,199 --> 00:13:55,633
OF CHINA.
WE WERE NOT TERRIBLY SURPRISED
414
00:13:55,635 --> 00:13:57,468
WE WERE NOT TERRIBLY SURPRISED
ABOUT THE ORIGIN OF THE STONES.
415
00:13:57,470 --> 00:13:59,937
ABOUT THE ORIGIN OF THE STONES.
THE STYLE EXTENDED BACK TO
416
00:13:59,939 --> 00:14:02,139
THE STYLE EXTENDED BACK TO
AN EARLY PERIOD, PERHAPS AS
417
00:14:02,141 --> 00:14:04,074
AN EARLY PERIOD, PERHAPS AS
EARLY AS THE HAN DYNASTY,
418
00:14:04,076 --> 00:14:06,777
EARLY AS THE HAN DYNASTY,
ABOUT THE TIME OF CHRIST.
419
00:14:06,779 --> 00:14:08,145
ABOUT THE TIME OF CHRIST.
>> narrator: ANCHORS THAT LOOKED
420
00:14:08,147 --> 00:14:10,114
>> narrator: ANCHORS THAT LOOKED
LIKE THE STONES MEISTRELL FOUND
421
00:14:10,116 --> 00:14:11,882
LIKE THE STONES MEISTRELL FOUND
WERE USED DURING THE TIME
422
00:14:11,884 --> 00:14:13,751
WERE USED DURING THE TIME
OF HUI SHEN, BUT THEY WERE
423
00:14:13,753 --> 00:14:15,252
OF HUI SHEN, BUT THEY WERE
ALSO USED ON CHINESE JUNKS
424
00:14:15,254 --> 00:14:17,888
ALSO USED ON CHINESE JUNKS
FROM THE 19TH CENTURY.
425
00:14:17,890 --> 00:14:21,425
FROM THE 19TH CENTURY.
NOW THERE MAY FINALLY BE A WAY
426
00:14:21,427 --> 00:14:22,827
NOW THERE MAY FINALLY BE A WAY
TO LEARN IF THESE ARE ANCIENT
427
00:14:22,829 --> 00:14:25,496
TO LEARN IF THESE ARE ANCIENT
CHINESE ANCHORS OR MODERN ONES,
428
00:14:25,498 --> 00:14:27,264
CHINESE ANCHORS OR MODERN ONES,
THANKS TO A SCIENCE CALLED
429
00:14:27,266 --> 00:14:29,567
THANKS TO A SCIENCE CALLED
FORENSIC PETROGRAPHY.
430
00:14:29,569 --> 00:14:31,402
FORENSIC PETROGRAPHY.
FORENSIC PETROGRAPHERS LIKE
431
00:14:31,404 --> 00:14:33,704
FORENSIC PETROGRAPHERS LIKE
SCOTT WOLTER ARE GEOLOGISTS
432
00:14:33,706 --> 00:14:37,675
SCOTT WOLTER ARE GEOLOGISTS
WHO DO AUTOPSIES ON ROCKS.
433
00:14:37,677 --> 00:14:38,476
WHO DO AUTOPSIES ON ROCKS.
>> HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE
434
00:14:38,478 --> 00:14:39,443
>> HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE
TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING,
435
00:14:39,445 --> 00:14:41,278
TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING,
BUT IT STARTS BY TAKING A LOOK
436
00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:42,112
BUT IT STARTS BY TAKING A LOOK
AT IT.
437
00:14:42,114 --> 00:14:43,247
AT IT.
>> WE'RE GONNA DROP DOWN
438
00:14:43,249 --> 00:14:44,448
>> WE'RE GONNA DROP DOWN
THE ANCHOR LINE AND SEE
439
00:14:44,450 --> 00:14:45,316
THE ANCHOR LINE AND SEE
IF WE CAN FIND SOME OF THESE
440
00:14:45,318 --> 00:14:46,851
IF WE CAN FIND SOME OF THESE
STONE ANCHORS.
441
00:14:46,853 --> 00:14:48,452
STONE ANCHORS.
>> narrator: RAY ORTIZ HAS SEEN
442
00:14:48,454 --> 00:14:50,688
>> narrator: RAY ORTIZ HAS SEEN
AND FILMED THE STONES BEFORE,
443
00:14:50,690 --> 00:14:52,690
AND FILMED THE STONES BEFORE,
BUT IN RECENT YEARS, KELP HAS
444
00:14:52,692 --> 00:14:54,992
BUT IN RECENT YEARS, KELP HAS
BEEN TAKING OVER THE AREA.
445
00:14:54,994 --> 00:14:56,260
BEEN TAKING OVER THE AREA.
WHETHER OR NOT HE'LL BE ABLE
446
00:14:56,262 --> 00:14:57,761
WHETHER OR NOT HE'LL BE ABLE
TO SEE WELL ENOUGH TO GET
447
00:14:57,763 --> 00:15:01,599
TO SEE WELL ENOUGH TO GET
ANOTHER ANCHOR IS UNCERTAIN.
448
00:15:01,601 --> 00:15:02,600
ANOTHER ANCHOR IS UNCERTAIN.
>> WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR,
449
00:15:02,602 --> 00:15:03,500
>> WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR,
BASICALLY, I GUESS,
450
00:15:03,502 --> 00:15:05,502
BASICALLY, I GUESS,
WOULD BE THE HOLE
451
00:15:05,504 --> 00:15:06,704
WOULD BE THE HOLE
WHERE THEY RUN THE ROPES THROUGH
452
00:15:06,706 --> 00:15:08,372
WHERE THEY RUN THE ROPES THROUGH
AND STUFF.
453
00:15:08,374 --> 00:15:09,206
AND STUFF.
>> narrator: NONBELIEVERS
454
00:15:09,208 --> 00:15:10,708
>> narrator: NONBELIEVERS
IN THE CHINESE ANCHOR THEORY
455
00:15:10,710 --> 00:15:12,710
IN THE CHINESE ANCHOR THEORY
INSIST THE HOLES IN THE ROCKS
456
00:15:12,712 --> 00:15:14,178
INSIST THE HOLES IN THE ROCKS
ARE NATURALLY OCCURRING
457
00:15:14,180 --> 00:15:15,479
ARE NATURALLY OCCURRING
AND COULD HAVE COME FROM
458
00:15:15,481 --> 00:15:16,547
AND COULD HAVE COME FROM
SEA URCHINS.
459
00:15:16,549 --> 00:15:17,715
SEA URCHINS.
>> PEOPLE LOOK AT IT,
460
00:15:17,717 --> 00:15:18,716
>> PEOPLE LOOK AT IT,
AND THEY SAY, "WELL, MAYBE
461
00:15:18,718 --> 00:15:19,984
AND THEY SAY, "WELL, MAYBE
A SEA URCHIN DID IT."
462
00:15:19,986 --> 00:15:21,218
A SEA URCHIN DID IT."
A SEA URCHIN DID NOT DO THAT.
463
00:15:21,220 --> 00:15:23,120
A SEA URCHIN DID NOT DO THAT.
THIS IS WHAT A SEA URCHIN DOES.
464
00:15:23,122 --> 00:15:24,121
THIS IS WHAT A SEA URCHIN DOES.
AND SEA URCHINS LIVE TO BE
465
00:15:24,123 --> 00:15:25,522
AND SEA URCHINS LIVE TO BE
100 YEARS, BUT THAT'S ABOUT
466
00:15:25,524 --> 00:15:26,490
100 YEARS, BUT THAT'S ABOUT
AS DEEP AS I'VE SEEN
467
00:15:26,492 --> 00:15:28,192
AS DEEP AS I'VE SEEN
ANY OF THEM GO.
468
00:15:28,194 --> 00:15:29,627
ANY OF THEM GO.
>> THERE IS NO DOUBT IN MY MIND
469
00:15:29,629 --> 00:15:31,161
>> THERE IS NO DOUBT IN MY MIND
THAT THE PALOS VERDES STONES
470
00:15:31,163 --> 00:15:33,731
THAT THE PALOS VERDES STONES
ARE ANCHORS
471
00:15:33,733 --> 00:15:35,966
ARE ANCHORS
AND THAT THEY'RE CHINESE.
472
00:15:35,968 --> 00:15:37,635
AND THAT THEY'RE CHINESE.
>> narrator: BUT HOW OLD
473
00:15:37,637 --> 00:15:40,471
>> narrator: BUT HOW OLD
ARE THEY?
474
00:15:40,473 --> 00:15:42,072
ARE THEY?
BACK ON THE BOAT,
475
00:15:42,074 --> 00:15:45,476
BACK ON THE BOAT,
ORTIZ DIVES DOWN.
476
00:15:45,478 --> 00:15:47,044
ORTIZ DIVES DOWN.
THE OCEAN IS STIRRED UP FROM
477
00:15:47,046 --> 00:15:48,512
THE OCEAN IS STIRRED UP FROM
A RECENT STORM.
478
00:15:48,514 --> 00:15:50,648
A RECENT STORM.
THAT PLUS THE FOREST OF KELP
479
00:15:50,650 --> 00:15:52,583
THAT PLUS THE FOREST OF KELP
RISING HIGH ABOVE THE SEAFLOOR
480
00:15:52,585 --> 00:15:55,119
RISING HIGH ABOVE THE SEAFLOOR
MAKES THE DIVE DIFFICULT.
481
00:15:55,121 --> 00:16:02,326
>> OH, MAN.
YOU COULDN'T FIND A STONE ANCHOR
482
00:16:02,328 --> 00:16:03,193
YOU COULDN'T FIND A STONE ANCHOR
DOWN THERE RIGHT NOW
483
00:16:03,195 --> 00:16:04,261
DOWN THERE RIGHT NOW
WITH HEADLIGHTS.
484
00:16:04,263 --> 00:16:05,429
WITH HEADLIGHTS.
AS SOON AS I GOT TO THE BOTTOM,
485
00:16:05,431 --> 00:16:07,264
AS SOON AS I GOT TO THE BOTTOM,
IT WAS PITCH-BLACK, PITCH-BLACK.
486
00:16:07,266 --> 00:16:08,399
IT WAS PITCH-BLACK, PITCH-BLACK.
>> YOU DON'T THINK IT'S WORTH
487
00:16:08,401 --> 00:16:09,833
>> YOU DON'T THINK IT'S WORTH
GOING DOWN AGAIN, HUH?
488
00:16:09,835 --> 00:16:12,436
GOING DOWN AGAIN, HUH?
>> THE SURGE IS REALLY STRONG,
489
00:16:12,438 --> 00:16:14,104
>> THE SURGE IS REALLY STRONG,
AND THE DIRT IS JUST SLOSHING
490
00:16:14,106 --> 00:16:15,439
AND THE DIRT IS JUST SLOSHING
BACK AND FORTH.
491
00:16:15,441 --> 00:16:17,841
BACK AND FORTH.
NO ANCHORS TODAY, GENTLEMEN.
492
00:16:17,843 --> 00:16:18,676
NO ANCHORS TODAY, GENTLEMEN.
>> narrator: IT'S
493
00:16:18,678 --> 00:16:20,611
>> narrator: IT'S
A DISAPPOINTMENT, BUT WOLTER
494
00:16:20,613 --> 00:16:22,012
A DISAPPOINTMENT, BUT WOLTER
WILL TRY TESTING ONE OF
495
00:16:22,014 --> 00:16:23,881
WILL TRY TESTING ONE OF
THE ORIGINAL ANCHORS PULLED OUT
496
00:16:23,883 --> 00:16:25,683
THE ORIGINAL ANCHORS PULLED OUT
YEARS AGO.
497
00:16:25,685 --> 00:16:27,217
YEARS AGO.
>> THIS IS ONE OF THE SAMPLES
498
00:16:27,219 --> 00:16:28,886
>> THIS IS ONE OF THE SAMPLES
THAT WE PREPARED OF
499
00:16:28,888 --> 00:16:30,187
THAT WE PREPARED OF
THE SHIP ANCHOR.
500
00:16:30,189 --> 00:16:32,189
THE SHIP ANCHOR.
AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE
501
00:16:32,191 --> 00:16:33,924
AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE
WOULD BE THE OUTSIDE SURFACE
502
00:16:33,926 --> 00:16:36,927
WOULD BE THE OUTSIDE SURFACE
OF THE ANCHOR, AND THIS CURVED
503
00:16:36,929 --> 00:16:38,962
OF THE ANCHOR, AND THIS CURVED
SURFACE HERE IS THE INSIDE.
504
00:16:38,964 --> 00:16:40,364
SURFACE HERE IS THE INSIDE.
>> narrator: THE STONE
505
00:16:40,366 --> 00:16:41,932
>> narrator: THE STONE
IS DOLOMITE.
506
00:16:41,934 --> 00:16:43,600
IS DOLOMITE.
SHELLS LEFT EMBEDDED IN THE ROCK
507
00:16:43,602 --> 00:16:45,703
SHELLS LEFT EMBEDDED IN THE ROCK
PROVE THESE SMALL HOLES
508
00:16:45,705 --> 00:16:48,639
PROVE THESE SMALL HOLES
WERE MADE BY SEA CREATURES.
509
00:16:48,641 --> 00:16:50,574
WERE MADE BY SEA CREATURES.
WHAT OR WHO MADE THE INTERIOR
510
00:16:50,576 --> 00:16:51,975
WHAT OR WHO MADE THE INTERIOR
HOLE OF THE DOUGHNUT-SHAPED
511
00:16:51,977 --> 00:16:55,546
HOLE OF THE DOUGHNUT-SHAPED
STONE IS LESS CLEAR.
512
00:16:55,548 --> 00:16:56,980
STONE IS LESS CLEAR.
>> I DON'T SEE ANYTHING HERE
513
00:16:56,982 --> 00:16:59,149
>> I DON'T SEE ANYTHING HERE
THAT INDICATES A MAN-MADE
514
00:16:59,151 --> 00:17:00,718
THAT INDICATES A MAN-MADE
ORIGIN DEFINITIVELY.
515
00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,119
ORIGIN DEFINITIVELY.
THERE'S NO WEATHERING PROFILE.
516
00:17:02,121 --> 00:17:03,320
THERE'S NO WEATHERING PROFILE.
IT DOESN'T ALLOW ME TO SAY
517
00:17:03,322 --> 00:17:04,955
IT DOESN'T ALLOW ME TO SAY
ANYTHING ABOUT THE AGE.
518
00:17:04,957 --> 00:17:06,090
ANYTHING ABOUT THE AGE.
I CAN ONLY DEDUCE THAT
519
00:17:06,092 --> 00:17:07,291
I CAN ONLY DEDUCE THAT
THEY WERE MAN-MADE.
520
00:17:07,293 --> 00:17:09,226
THEY WERE MAN-MADE.
I DON'T SEE ANYTHING DIRECTLY.
521
00:17:09,228 --> 00:17:11,328
I DON'T SEE ANYTHING DIRECTLY.
I CAN'T IMAGINE A NATURAL
522
00:17:11,330 --> 00:17:12,830
I CAN'T IMAGINE A NATURAL
OCCURRENCE LIKE THAT.
523
00:17:12,832 --> 00:17:14,732
OCCURRENCE LIKE THAT.
MAYBE--MAYBE ONE OR TWO MIGHT
524
00:17:14,734 --> 00:17:15,933
MAYBE--MAYBE ONE OR TWO MIGHT
SHOW UP IN SOME NATURAL
525
00:17:15,935 --> 00:17:17,735
SHOW UP IN SOME NATURAL
ENVIRONMENT, BUT BASED ON WHAT
526
00:17:17,737 --> 00:17:19,403
ENVIRONMENT, BUT BASED ON WHAT
I UNDERSTAND, THERE'S DOZENS
527
00:17:19,405 --> 00:17:21,305
I UNDERSTAND, THERE'S DOZENS
OF THESE THINGS ALL IN A LOCAL
528
00:17:21,307 --> 00:17:23,607
OF THESE THINGS ALL IN A LOCAL
AREA THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY
529
00:17:23,609 --> 00:17:24,842
AREA THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY
INDIGENOUS TO WHERE THEY WERE
530
00:17:24,844 --> 00:17:26,176
INDIGENOUS TO WHERE THEY WERE
FOUND.
531
00:17:26,178 --> 00:17:27,611
FOUND.
THAT IMPLIES A MAN-MADE ORIGIN
532
00:17:27,613 --> 00:17:28,679
THAT IMPLIES A MAN-MADE ORIGIN
TO ME.
533
00:17:28,681 --> 00:17:29,847
TO ME.
THE BURDEN OF PROOF, I GUESS,
534
00:17:29,849 --> 00:17:31,014
THE BURDEN OF PROOF, I GUESS,
IS ON SOMEBODY WHO WANTS
535
00:17:31,016 --> 00:17:32,282
IS ON SOMEBODY WHO WANTS
TO TRY TO PROVE THAT
536
00:17:32,284 --> 00:17:34,985
TO TRY TO PROVE THAT
THAT'S NOT MAN-MADE.
537
00:17:34,987 --> 00:17:41,859
>> narrator: MAN-MADE OR NOT,
NAUTICAL ARCHAEOLOGIST
538
00:17:41,861 --> 00:17:43,127
NAUTICAL ARCHAEOLOGIST
JAMES DELGADO SAYS THERE'S
539
00:17:43,129 --> 00:17:45,295
JAMES DELGADO SAYS THERE'S
NO WAY THESE ARE ANCHORS FROM
540
00:17:45,297 --> 00:17:48,632
NO WAY THESE ARE ANCHORS FROM
ANY FIFTH-CENTURY CHINESE SHIP.
541
00:17:48,634 --> 00:17:50,134
ANY FIFTH-CENTURY CHINESE SHIP.
>> AT THE TIME THE HUI SHEN
542
00:17:50,136 --> 00:17:51,135
>> AT THE TIME THE HUI SHEN
VOYAGES WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE
543
00:17:51,137 --> 00:17:53,137
VOYAGES WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE
HAPPENED, THE ONLY WAY HE COULD
544
00:17:53,139 --> 00:17:54,638
HAPPENED, THE ONLY WAY HE COULD
HAVE SAILED TO THE NEW WORLD
545
00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,206
HAVE SAILED TO THE NEW WORLD
WAS TO HAVE HITCHED A RIDE ON
546
00:17:56,208 --> 00:17:57,708
WAS TO HAVE HITCHED A RIDE ON
AN ARAB BOAT.
547
00:17:57,710 --> 00:17:59,042
AN ARAB BOAT.
THE ANCIENT CHINESE BUILT
548
00:17:59,044 --> 00:18:00,644
THE ANCIENT CHINESE BUILT
MAGNIFICENT VESSELS THAT
549
00:18:00,646 --> 00:18:02,179
MAGNIFICENT VESSELS THAT
NAVIGATED ON THE RIVERS,
550
00:18:02,181 --> 00:18:03,313
NAVIGATED ON THE RIVERS,
BUT THEY DIDN'T BUILD
551
00:18:03,315 --> 00:18:04,781
BUT THEY DIDN'T BUILD
SEAGOING CRAFT.
552
00:18:04,783 --> 00:18:05,782
SEAGOING CRAFT.
THE ARABS WERE THE GREAT
553
00:18:05,784 --> 00:18:08,018
THE ARABS WERE THE GREAT
SEAFARING POWER OF THAT TIME.
554
00:18:08,020 --> 00:18:09,019
SEAFARING POWER OF THAT TIME.
>> narrator: AND YOU WOULDN'T
555
00:18:09,021 --> 00:18:10,888
>> narrator: AND YOU WOULDN'T
FIND CHINESE-STYLE SHIP ANCHORS
556
00:18:10,890 --> 00:18:13,557
FIND CHINESE-STYLE SHIP ANCHORS
ON AN ARAB BOAT, IF THAT IS WHAT
557
00:18:13,559 --> 00:18:16,927
ON AN ARAB BOAT, IF THAT IS WHAT
HUI SHEN TOOK TO GET TO AMERICA.
558
00:18:16,929 --> 00:18:18,562
HUI SHEN TOOK TO GET TO AMERICA.
>> THE ARAB DHOW IS A LONG
559
00:18:18,564 --> 00:18:20,631
>> THE ARAB DHOW IS A LONG
SLEEK VESSEL BUILT OF WOOD
560
00:18:20,633 --> 00:18:22,399
SLEEK VESSEL BUILT OF WOOD
THAT CARRIES LATEEN SAILS
561
00:18:22,401 --> 00:18:23,567
THAT CARRIES LATEEN SAILS
THAT SWING AND ARE MORE
562
00:18:23,569 --> 00:18:25,068
THAT SWING AND ARE MORE
MANEUVERABLE, SO THEY CAN
563
00:18:25,070 --> 00:18:26,003
MANEUVERABLE, SO THEY CAN
CATCH A WIND.
564
00:18:26,005 --> 00:18:26,904
CATCH A WIND.
THEY CAN MOVE.
565
00:18:26,906 --> 00:18:27,804
THEY CAN MOVE.
THEY CAN TACK.
566
00:18:27,806 --> 00:18:29,039
THEY CAN TACK.
THEY CAN FOLLOW A COAST,
567
00:18:29,041 --> 00:18:30,307
THEY CAN FOLLOW A COAST,
AND THEY CAN ALSO SAIL
568
00:18:30,309 --> 00:18:32,376
AND THEY CAN ALSO SAIL
OVER LARGE BODIES OF WATER.
569
00:18:32,378 --> 00:18:33,577
OVER LARGE BODIES OF WATER.
>> narrator: ARAB DHOWS COULD
570
00:18:33,579 --> 00:18:36,213
>> narrator: ARAB DHOWS COULD
REACH SPEEDS OF 8 OR 9 KNOTS
571
00:18:36,215 --> 00:18:37,915
REACH SPEEDS OF 8 OR 9 KNOTS
AND WERE FIXTURES IN AND AROUND
572
00:18:37,917 --> 00:18:39,550
AND WERE FIXTURES IN AND AROUND
THE INDIAN OCEAN IN MEDIEVAL
573
00:18:39,552 --> 00:18:42,119
THE INDIAN OCEAN IN MEDIEVAL
TIMES AND BEYOND.
574
00:18:42,121 --> 00:18:44,154
TIMES AND BEYOND.
SO IF THESE ARE CHINESE SHIP
575
00:18:44,156 --> 00:18:45,489
SO IF THESE ARE CHINESE SHIP
ANCHORS AND THEY'RE NOT FROM
576
00:18:45,491 --> 00:18:47,024
ANCHORS AND THEY'RE NOT FROM
HUI SHEN'S VOYAGE,
577
00:18:47,026 --> 00:18:49,192
HUI SHEN'S VOYAGE,
WHEN WERE THEY LOST?
578
00:18:49,194 --> 00:18:51,194
WHEN WERE THEY LOST?
>> THE PALOS VERDES STONES
579
00:18:51,196 --> 00:18:54,565
>> THE PALOS VERDES STONES
PROBABLY REPRESENT ACCIDENTAL
580
00:18:54,567 --> 00:18:58,835
PROBABLY REPRESENT ACCIDENTAL
ANCHOR LOSS FROM 19TH-CENTURY
581
00:18:58,837 --> 00:19:01,238
ANCHOR LOSS FROM 19TH-CENTURY
CHINESE FISHING VESSELS.
582
00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:02,339
CHINESE FISHING VESSELS.
>> narrator: IN THE SECOND HALF
583
00:19:02,341 --> 00:19:04,074
>> narrator: IN THE SECOND HALF
OF THE 19TH CENTURY,
584
00:19:04,076 --> 00:19:05,943
OF THE 19TH CENTURY,
CHINESE JUNKS DID FISH
585
00:19:05,945 --> 00:19:07,945
CHINESE JUNKS DID FISH
OFF THE COAST OF CALIFORNIA,
586
00:19:07,947 --> 00:19:09,179
OFF THE COAST OF CALIFORNIA,
OFFERING A REASONABLE
587
00:19:09,181 --> 00:19:11,014
OFFERING A REASONABLE
EXPLANATION FOR THE DOZENS OF
588
00:19:11,016 --> 00:19:12,449
EXPLANATION FOR THE DOZENS OF
DOUGHNUT-LIKE STONES LEFT
589
00:19:12,451 --> 00:19:16,586
DOUGHNUT-LIKE STONES LEFT
ON THE SEAFLOOR.
590
00:19:16,588 --> 00:19:17,721
ON THE SEAFLOOR.
THERE IS EVIDENCE
591
00:19:17,723 --> 00:19:19,523
THERE IS EVIDENCE
FOR AND AGAINST THE THEORY THAT
592
00:19:19,525 --> 00:19:20,557
FOR AND AGAINST THE THEORY THAT
THE CHINESE REACHED
593
00:19:20,559 --> 00:19:23,026
THE CHINESE REACHED
THE NEW WORLD BEFORE COLUMBUS,
594
00:19:23,028 --> 00:19:25,195
THE NEW WORLD BEFORE COLUMBUS,
BUT THE SEARCH GOES ON FOR WHO
595
00:19:25,197 --> 00:19:26,363
BUT THE SEARCH GOES ON FOR WHO
COULD HAVE DISCOVERED AMERICA
596
00:19:26,365 --> 00:19:28,398
COULD HAVE DISCOVERED AMERICA
EVEN EARLIER.
597
00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,734
EVEN EARLIER.
DOTTING THE AMERICAN LANDSCAPE,
598
00:19:30,736 --> 00:19:32,436
DOTTING THE AMERICAN LANDSCAPE,
CLUES THAT COLONIZATION OF
599
00:19:32,438 --> 00:19:34,538
CLUES THAT COLONIZATION OF
THE COUNTRY BEGAN NOT HUNDREDS
600
00:19:34,540 --> 00:19:37,040
THE COUNTRY BEGAN NOT HUNDREDS
BUT THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO.
601
00:19:37,042 --> 00:19:39,242
BUT THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO.
FROM THE EAST AND THE WEST,
602
00:19:39,244 --> 00:19:41,211
FROM THE EAST AND THE WEST,
IN ALL MANNER OF CRAFT,
603
00:19:41,213 --> 00:19:43,347
IN ALL MANNER OF CRAFT,
WHO CAME, WHO WENT,
604
00:19:43,349 --> 00:19:45,916
WHO CAME, WHO WENT,
AND WHO STAYED?
605
00:19:45,918 --> 00:20:01,715
>> narrator: WALES, 1150 A.D.,
342 YEARS BEFORE COLUMBUS.
606
00:20:01,717 --> 00:20:03,116
342 YEARS BEFORE COLUMBUS.
ELSEWHERE IN THE WORLD,
607
00:20:03,118 --> 00:20:04,651
ELSEWHERE IN THE WORLD,
THE TEMPLE OF ANGKOR WAT
608
00:20:04,653 --> 00:20:06,486
THE TEMPLE OF ANGKOR WAT
IS COMPLETED IN CAMBODIA,
609
00:20:06,488 --> 00:20:07,821
IS COMPLETED IN CAMBODIA,
AND THE UNIVERSITY OF PARIS
610
00:20:07,823 --> 00:20:09,956
AND THE UNIVERSITY OF PARIS
IS FOUNDED IN FRANCE.
611
00:20:09,958 --> 00:20:11,491
IS FOUNDED IN FRANCE.
IN SNOWDONIA, WALES,
612
00:20:11,493 --> 00:20:13,160
IN SNOWDONIA, WALES,
PRINCE MADOC AB OWAIN GWYNEDD
613
00:20:13,162 --> 00:20:14,661
PRINCE MADOC AB OWAIN GWYNEDD
IS BORN.
614
00:20:14,663 --> 00:20:16,496
IS BORN.
LEGEND SAYS, 20 YEARS LATER,
615
00:20:16,498 --> 00:20:18,365
LEGEND SAYS, 20 YEARS LATER,
HE SET SAIL FROM RHOS-ON-SEA
616
00:20:18,367 --> 00:20:19,633
HE SET SAIL FROM RHOS-ON-SEA
IN SEARCH OF LAND
617
00:20:19,635 --> 00:20:23,837
IN SEARCH OF LAND
TO CALL HIS OWN.
618
00:20:23,839 --> 00:20:24,971
TO CALL HIS OWN.
>> THE LEGEND OF HIM LEAVING
619
00:20:24,973 --> 00:20:26,807
>> THE LEGEND OF HIM LEAVING
FROM HERE TO GO TO AMERICA
620
00:20:26,809 --> 00:20:28,842
FROM HERE TO GO TO AMERICA
ORIGINATED IN MYTHOLOGY.
621
00:20:28,844 --> 00:20:30,343
ORIGINATED IN MYTHOLOGY.
IN A WAY, THE STORY
622
00:20:30,345 --> 00:20:31,311
IN A WAY, THE STORY
WAS HANDED DOWN FROM
623
00:20:31,313 --> 00:20:35,615
WAS HANDED DOWN FROM
GENERATION TO GENERATION.
624
00:20:35,617 --> 00:20:37,551
GENERATION TO GENERATION.
>> MOST OF THE ANCIENT POETRY
625
00:20:37,553 --> 00:20:40,187
>> MOST OF THE ANCIENT POETRY
IN WALES WHICH REFERS TO IT,
626
00:20:40,189 --> 00:20:42,122
IN WALES WHICH REFERS TO IT,
CERTAINLY PRIOR TO COLUMBUS'S
627
00:20:42,124 --> 00:20:44,691
CERTAINLY PRIOR TO COLUMBUS'S
TIME, HAS REFERENCES NOT OF
628
00:20:44,693 --> 00:20:46,126
TIME, HAS REFERENCES NOT OF
MADOC GOING TO AMERICA, SINCE
629
00:20:46,128 --> 00:20:47,527
MADOC GOING TO AMERICA, SINCE
PEOPLE HAD NO PERCEPTION OF
630
00:20:47,529 --> 00:20:49,429
PEOPLE HAD NO PERCEPTION OF
AMERICA, JUST THAT HE WAS
631
00:20:49,431 --> 00:20:50,997
AMERICA, JUST THAT HE WAS
A BOLD AND COURAGEOUS SAILOR WHO
632
00:20:50,999 --> 00:20:52,599
A BOLD AND COURAGEOUS SAILOR WHO
WENT SOMEWHERE A LONG DISTANCE
633
00:20:52,601 --> 00:20:54,901
WENT SOMEWHERE A LONG DISTANCE
AWAY ACROSS THE GREAT SEA.
634
00:20:54,903 --> 00:20:56,369
AWAY ACROSS THE GREAT SEA.
>> narrator: THE IDEA THAT MADOC
635
00:20:56,371 --> 00:20:58,171
>> narrator: THE IDEA THAT MADOC
DISCOVERED AMERICA DIDN'T BECOME
636
00:20:58,173 --> 00:20:59,372
DISCOVERED AMERICA DIDN'T BECOME
PART OF THE LEGEND UNTIL
637
00:20:59,374 --> 00:21:01,374
PART OF THE LEGEND UNTIL
THE MID-1500s.
638
00:21:01,376 --> 00:21:02,909
THE MID-1500s.
ITS SUDDEN INCLUSION CAME
639
00:21:02,911 --> 00:21:04,911
ITS SUDDEN INCLUSION CAME
AT A TIME WHEN QUEEN ELIZABETH
640
00:21:04,913 --> 00:21:06,880
AT A TIME WHEN QUEEN ELIZABETH
WAS TRYING TO PROVE THE BRITISH,
641
00:21:06,882 --> 00:21:08,215
WAS TRYING TO PROVE THE BRITISH,
NOT THE SPANISH,
642
00:21:08,217 --> 00:21:11,017
NOT THE SPANISH,
MADE IT TO AMERICA FIRST.
643
00:21:11,019 --> 00:21:12,953
MADE IT TO AMERICA FIRST.
>> AS THINGS ARE PASSED ON
644
00:21:12,955 --> 00:21:13,887
>> AS THINGS ARE PASSED ON
THROUGH THE GENERATIONS,
645
00:21:13,889 --> 00:21:14,888
THROUGH THE GENERATIONS,
THERE'S A CHANCE THAT THERE WILL
646
00:21:14,890 --> 00:21:17,724
THERE'S A CHANCE THAT THERE WILL
BE EMBELLISHMENT AND CHANGE.
647
00:21:17,726 --> 00:21:19,860
BE EMBELLISHMENT AND CHANGE.
>> narrator: TODAY THE LEGEND
648
00:21:19,862 --> 00:21:21,394
>> narrator: TODAY THE LEGEND
HAS GROWN EVEN MORE.
649
00:21:21,396 --> 00:21:23,363
HAS GROWN EVEN MORE.
SOME BELIEVE MADOC AND A PARTY
650
00:21:23,365 --> 00:21:26,566
SOME BELIEVE MADOC AND A PARTY
OF COLONISTS LEFT WALES IN 1170
651
00:21:26,568 --> 00:21:28,702
OF COLONISTS LEFT WALES IN 1170
ON A SHIP CALLED THE GWENAN GORN
652
00:21:28,704 --> 00:21:30,170
ON A SHIP CALLED THE GWENAN GORNAND SAILED ALL THE WAY TO
653
00:21:30,172 --> 00:21:33,373
AND SAILED ALL THE WAY TOMOBILE BAY, ALABAMA.
654
00:21:33,375 --> 00:21:34,274
MOBILE BAY, ALABAMA.>> WHAT TYPE OF VESSEL
655
00:21:34,276 --> 00:21:35,242
>> WHAT TYPE OF VESSELWOULD MADOC HAVE USED
656
00:21:35,244 --> 00:21:36,576
WOULD MADOC HAVE USEDIF HE HAD DONE THIS?
657
00:21:36,578 --> 00:21:38,411
IF HE HAD DONE THIS?MOST LIKELY A SAXON SHIP,
658
00:21:38,413 --> 00:21:40,981
MOST LIKELY A SAXON SHIP,VERY MUCH LIKE A VIKING SHIP,
659
00:21:40,983 --> 00:21:41,982
VERY MUCH LIKE A VIKING SHIP,A LARGE ROWBOAT,
660
00:21:41,984 --> 00:21:44,417
A LARGE ROWBOAT,HEAVILY FASTENED AND BUILT.
661
00:21:44,419 --> 00:21:45,385
HEAVILY FASTENED AND BUILT.>> narrator: SAXON SHIPS WERE
662
00:21:45,387 --> 00:21:46,786
>> narrator: SAXON SHIPS WERECLINKER BUILT, MEANING
663
00:21:46,788 --> 00:21:48,388
CLINKER BUILT, MEANINGBUILT WITH HEAVY WOOD PLANKS
664
00:21:48,390 --> 00:21:50,056
BUILT WITH HEAVY WOOD PLANKSOVERLAPPING EACH OTHER.
665
00:21:50,058 --> 00:21:51,391
OVERLAPPING EACH OTHER.THOUGH THE LEGEND SUGGESTS
666
00:21:51,393 --> 00:21:53,994
THOUGH THE LEGEND SUGGESTSMADOC USED STAG HORNS FOR NAILS,
667
00:21:53,996 --> 00:21:54,995
MADOC USED STAG HORNS FOR NAILS,IRON RIVETS WOULD HAVE BEEN
668
00:21:54,997 --> 00:21:57,230
IRON RIVETS WOULD HAVE BEENMORE CONVENTIONAL.
669
00:21:57,232 --> 00:21:58,732
MORE CONVENTIONAL.A SAXON SHIP WOULD HAVE HAD
670
00:21:58,734 --> 00:22:00,433
A SAXON SHIP WOULD HAVE HADA STEERING OAR AND AN ESTIMATED
671
00:22:00,435 --> 00:22:02,202
A STEERING OAR AND AN ESTIMATED15 SETS OF ROWLOCKS
672
00:22:02,204 --> 00:22:03,904
15 SETS OF ROWLOCKSAND 30 OARS TO HELP BATTLE
673
00:22:03,906 --> 00:22:07,207
AND 30 OARS TO HELP BATTLEAN UNFAVORABLE WIND.
674
00:22:07,209 --> 00:22:09,242
AN UNFAVORABLE WIND.IN THE 1950s, THE DAUGHTERS
675
00:22:09,244 --> 00:22:10,744
IN THE 1950s, THE DAUGHTERSOF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION
676
00:22:10,746 --> 00:22:12,178
OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTIONPLACED A PLAQUE IN MOBILE
677
00:22:12,180 --> 00:22:14,414
PLACED A PLAQUE IN MOBILECOMMEMORATING MADOC'S DISCOVERY
678
00:22:14,416 --> 00:22:15,916
COMMEMORATING MADOC'S DISCOVERYOF AMERICA.
679
00:22:15,918 --> 00:22:17,784
OF AMERICA.IT'S SINCE BEEN REMOVED
680
00:22:17,786 --> 00:22:19,853
IT'S SINCE BEEN REMOVEDTO THE CHAGRIN OF THE ALABAMA
681
00:22:19,855 --> 00:22:21,922
TO THE CHAGRIN OF THE ALABAMAWELSH ASSOCIATION.
682
00:22:21,924 --> 00:22:22,956
WELSH ASSOCIATION.>> WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY
683
00:22:22,958 --> 00:22:24,457
>> WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAYFROM CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS
684
00:22:24,459 --> 00:22:27,227
FROM CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUSDISCOVERING AMERICA IN 1492,
685
00:22:27,229 --> 00:22:29,429
DISCOVERING AMERICA IN 1492,BUT WE DO WANT TO KNOW
686
00:22:29,431 --> 00:22:33,266
BUT WE DO WANT TO KNOWOUR REAL HERITAGE.
687
00:22:33,268 --> 00:22:35,468
OUR REAL HERITAGE.>> THEY BEGAN THEIR TREK INLAND
688
00:22:35,470 --> 00:22:37,304
>> THEY BEGAN THEIR TREK INLANDALONG THE ALABAMA RIVER
689
00:22:37,306 --> 00:22:38,805
ALONG THE ALABAMA RIVERTO THE COOSA RIVER,
690
00:22:38,807 --> 00:22:40,307
TO THE COOSA RIVER,UP TO THIS LOCATION HERE,
691
00:22:40,309 --> 00:22:41,875
UP TO THIS LOCATION HERE,DESOTO FALLS.
692
00:22:41,877 --> 00:22:43,476
DESOTO FALLS.AND THIS IS ONE OF THE PLACES
693
00:22:43,478 --> 00:22:44,978
AND THIS IS ONE OF THE PLACESWHERE THE WELSH BUILT
694
00:22:44,980 --> 00:22:46,446
WHERE THE WELSH BUILTA FORTIFICATION.
695
00:22:46,448 --> 00:22:48,481
A FORTIFICATION.>> narrator: THESE HALF-BURIED
696
00:22:48,483 --> 00:22:50,083
>> narrator: THESE HALF-BURIEDSTONES ABOVE WHAT'S NICKNAMED
697
00:22:50,085 --> 00:22:52,319
STONES ABOVE WHAT'S NICKNAMEDTHE WELSH CAVES ARE ALL THAT ARE
698
00:22:52,321 --> 00:22:53,620
THE WELSH CAVES ARE ALL THAT ARELEFT OF ONE OF MADOC'S
699
00:22:53,622 --> 00:22:56,289
LEFT OF ONE OF MADOC'SALLEGED FORTS.
700
00:22:56,291 --> 00:22:58,124
ALLEGED FORTS.BELIEVERS SAY ITS LAYOUT
701
00:22:58,126 --> 00:22:59,492
BELIEVERS SAY ITS LAYOUTBEARS A STRIKING RESEMBLANCE
702
00:22:59,494 --> 00:23:00,960
BEARS A STRIKING RESEMBLANCETO THE FOOTPRINT OF DOLWYDDELAN
703
00:23:00,962 --> 00:23:02,495
TO THE FOOTPRINT OF DOLWYDDELANCASTLE WHERE MADOC WAS
704
00:23:02,497 --> 00:23:04,264
CASTLE WHERE MADOC WASSUPPOSEDLY BORN.
705
00:23:04,266 --> 00:23:05,665
SUPPOSEDLY BORN.TODAY THERE'S NO WAY
706
00:23:05,667 --> 00:23:08,268
TODAY THERE'S NO WAYTO COMPARE.
707
00:23:08,270 --> 00:23:09,135
TO COMPARE.>> THE ORIGINAL CASTLE IS
708
00:23:09,137 --> 00:23:10,136
>> THE ORIGINAL CASTLE ISPROBABLY LOST IN THE FOUNDATIONS
709
00:23:10,138 --> 00:23:12,072
PROBABLY LOST IN THE FOUNDATIONSOF THIS ONE.
710
00:23:12,074 --> 00:23:13,006
OF THIS ONE.>> narrator: DOLWYDDELAN WAS
711
00:23:13,008 --> 00:23:14,774
>> narrator: DOLWYDDELAN WASREBUILT, MAKING A COMPARISON
712
00:23:14,776 --> 00:23:16,276
REBUILT, MAKING A COMPARISONIMPOSSIBLE.
713
00:23:16,278 --> 00:23:17,644
IMPOSSIBLE.THAT'S ONE PROBLEM.
714
00:23:17,646 --> 00:23:19,479
THAT'S ONE PROBLEM.THE OTHER IS WHY AMERICANS
715
00:23:19,481 --> 00:23:20,580
THE OTHER IS WHY AMERICANSTHINK MADOC WAS BORN AT
716
00:23:20,582 --> 00:23:22,282
THINK MADOC WAS BORN ATDOLWYDDELAN AT ALL.
717
00:23:22,284 --> 00:23:23,817
DOLWYDDELAN AT ALL.>> THERE IS NO EARLY EVIDENCE
718
00:23:23,819 --> 00:23:25,585
>> THERE IS NO EARLY EVIDENCEOR LOCAL TRADITION THAT MADOC
719
00:23:25,587 --> 00:23:27,287
OR LOCAL TRADITION THAT MADOCWAS BORN IN DOLWYDDELAN.
720
00:23:27,289 --> 00:23:28,988
WAS BORN IN DOLWYDDELAN.THERE IS A LOCAL TRADITION THAT
721
00:23:28,990 --> 00:23:30,690
THERE IS A LOCAL TRADITION THATHIS NEPHEW LLYWELYN FAWR WAS
722
00:23:30,692 --> 00:23:31,791
HIS NEPHEW LLYWELYN FAWR WASBORN HERE,
723
00:23:31,793 --> 00:23:33,026
BORN HERE,CERTAINLY NOT IN THIS CASTLE
724
00:23:33,028 --> 00:23:34,294
CERTAINLY NOT IN THIS CASTLEBECAUSE LLYWELYN FAWR
725
00:23:34,296 --> 00:23:35,061
BECAUSE LLYWELYN FAWRBUILT THIS.
726
00:23:35,063 --> 00:23:36,529
BUILT THIS.IF HE WAS BORN ANYWHERE,
727
00:23:36,531 --> 00:23:38,331
IF HE WAS BORN ANYWHERE,IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE SMALL
728
00:23:38,333 --> 00:23:39,966
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE SMALLHILLOCK IN THE VALLEY BOTTOM
729
00:23:39,968 --> 00:23:40,800
HILLOCK IN THE VALLEY BOTTOMTHERE WHERE THERE WAS
730
00:23:40,802 --> 00:23:44,871
THERE WHERE THERE WASA SMALL TOWER.
731
00:23:44,873 --> 00:23:45,872
A SMALL TOWER.>> narrator: MADOC ALSO GETS
732
00:23:45,874 --> 00:23:47,540
>> narrator: MADOC ALSO GETSCREDIT FROM THE LOCALS FOR THIS
733
00:23:47,542 --> 00:23:50,310
CREDIT FROM THE LOCALS FOR THISSITE IN FORT MOUNTAIN, GEORGIA.
734
00:23:50,312 --> 00:23:52,045
SITE IN FORT MOUNTAIN, GEORGIA.LEGENDS OF THE CHEROKEE NATIVES
735
00:23:52,047 --> 00:23:53,980
LEGENDS OF THE CHEROKEE NATIVESIN THE AREA SAY BLONDE-HAIRED,
736
00:23:53,982 --> 00:23:56,182
IN THE AREA SAY BLONDE-HAIRED,MOON-EYED PEOPLE BUILT IT,
737
00:23:56,184 --> 00:23:57,851
MOON-EYED PEOPLE BUILT IT,ALTHOUGH ACCEPTED ARCHAEOLOGY
738
00:23:57,853 --> 00:23:59,552
ALTHOUGH ACCEPTED ARCHAEOLOGYSUGGESTS THE NATIVES THEMSELVES
739
00:23:59,554 --> 00:24:02,021
SUGGESTS THE NATIVES THEMSELVESARE RESPONSIBLE.
740
00:24:02,023 --> 00:24:03,189
ARE RESPONSIBLE.WHETHER OR NOT MADOC MADE
741
00:24:03,191 --> 00:24:04,891
WHETHER OR NOT MADOC MADECONTACT WITH THE CHEROKEE,
742
00:24:04,893 --> 00:24:06,693
CONTACT WITH THE CHEROKEE,HIS WELSH PARTY IS MOST OFTEN
743
00:24:06,695 --> 00:24:07,794
HIS WELSH PARTY IS MOST OFTENASSOCIATED WITH
744
00:24:07,796 --> 00:24:09,395
ASSOCIATED WITHA DIFFERENT TRIBE.
745
00:24:09,397 --> 00:24:11,331
A DIFFERENT TRIBE.>> WELL, THE LEGEND GOES THAT
746
00:24:11,333 --> 00:24:12,532
>> WELL, THE LEGEND GOES THATTHEY ASSIMILATED INTO THE MANDAN
747
00:24:12,534 --> 00:24:14,567
THEY ASSIMILATED INTO THE MANDANGROUP.
748
00:24:14,569 --> 00:24:15,768
GROUP.>> narrator: THE MANDAN TRIBE
749
00:24:15,770 --> 00:24:17,337
>> narrator: THE MANDAN TRIBEORIGINATED IN THE OHIO
750
00:24:17,339 --> 00:24:18,705
ORIGINATED IN THE OHIORIVER VALLEY.
751
00:24:18,707 --> 00:24:20,740
RIVER VALLEY.IF MADOC'S WELSH PARTY CONTINUED
752
00:24:20,742 --> 00:24:22,208
IF MADOC'S WELSH PARTY CONTINUEDTRAVELING NORTHWEST FROM THE
753
00:24:22,210 --> 00:24:24,477
TRAVELING NORTHWEST FROM THEFORT MOUNTAIN SITE IN GEORGIA,
754
00:24:24,479 --> 00:24:27,347
FORT MOUNTAIN SITE IN GEORGIA,THE TWO GROUPS COULD HAVE MET.
755
00:24:27,349 --> 00:24:29,215
THE TWO GROUPS COULD HAVE MET.ARTIST GEORGE CATLIN,
756
00:24:29,217 --> 00:24:31,217
ARTIST GEORGE CATLIN,WHO SPENT TIME WITH THE MANDAN,
757
00:24:31,219 --> 00:24:32,485
WHO SPENT TIME WITH THE MANDAN,THOUGHT THEY DID MORE
758
00:24:32,487 --> 00:24:33,786
THOUGHT THEY DID MORETHAN JUST MEET.
759
00:24:33,788 --> 00:24:36,389
THAN JUST MEET.HE THOUGHT THEY INTERMINGLED.
760
00:24:36,391 --> 00:24:37,924
HE THOUGHT THEY INTERMINGLED.CATLIN WAS STRUCK BY THE
761
00:24:37,926 --> 00:24:39,726
CATLIN WAS STRUCK BY THEMANDANS' EUROPEAN FEATURES
762
00:24:39,728 --> 00:24:41,928
MANDANS' EUROPEAN FEATURESWHILE PAINTING THEIR PORTRAITS.
763
00:24:41,930 --> 00:24:43,563
WHILE PAINTING THEIR PORTRAITS.HE ALSO NOTED SIMILARITIES IN
764
00:24:43,565 --> 00:24:45,365
HE ALSO NOTED SIMILARITIES INBOATS BOTH THE MANDAN AND
765
00:24:45,367 --> 00:24:46,933
BOATS BOTH THE MANDAN ANDTHE WELSH USED FOR NAVIGATING
766
00:24:46,935 --> 00:24:48,902
THE WELSH USED FOR NAVIGATINGTHE RIVER SYSTEM.
767
00:24:48,904 --> 00:24:50,403
THE RIVER SYSTEM.>> GEORGE CATLIN DREW PICTURES
768
00:24:50,405 --> 00:24:51,905
>> GEORGE CATLIN DREW PICTURESSHOWING THE BOATS THAT THEY
769
00:24:51,907 --> 00:24:53,773
SHOWING THE BOATS THAT THEYUSED, WHICH WERE VERY SIMILAR
770
00:24:53,775 --> 00:24:56,109
USED, WHICH WERE VERY SIMILARTO THE WELSH CORACLE.
771
00:24:56,111 --> 00:24:57,410
TO THE WELSH CORACLE.>> narrator: THE LEGEND OF
772
00:24:57,412 --> 00:24:59,112
>> narrator: THE LEGEND OFTHE WELSH INDIANS WAS POPULAR
773
00:24:59,114 --> 00:25:00,547
THE WELSH INDIANS WAS POPULAREVEN BEFORE THE TIME
774
00:25:00,549 --> 00:25:01,748
EVEN BEFORE THE TIMECATLIN LIVED AND WORKED
775
00:25:01,750 --> 00:25:04,150
CATLIN LIVED AND WORKEDAMONG THEM IN 1833.
776
00:25:04,152 --> 00:25:05,785
AMONG THEM IN 1833.PRESIDENT THOMAS JEFFERSON HAD
777
00:25:05,787 --> 00:25:07,554
PRESIDENT THOMAS JEFFERSON HADHEARD OF THEM 30 YEARS PRIOR
778
00:25:07,556 --> 00:25:10,123
HEARD OF THEM 30 YEARS PRIORAND, IN 1804, ASKED LEWIS
779
00:25:10,125 --> 00:25:11,124
AND, IN 1804, ASKED LEWISAND CLARK TO KEEP THEIR
780
00:25:11,126 --> 00:25:12,125
AND CLARK TO KEEP THEIREYES OUT FOR THEM
781
00:25:12,127 --> 00:25:13,927
EYES OUT FOR THEMWHILE EXPLORING THE LAND GAINED
782
00:25:13,929 --> 00:25:16,229
WHILE EXPLORING THE LAND GAINEDIN THE LOUISIANA PURCHASE.
783
00:25:16,231 --> 00:25:17,630
IN THE LOUISIANA PURCHASE.JEFFERSON HEARD
784
00:25:17,632 --> 00:25:20,199
JEFFERSON HEARDTHEY SPOKE WELSH.
785
00:25:20,201 --> 00:25:21,968
THEY SPOKE WELSH.>> IF MADOC HAD ACTUALLY LIVED
786
00:25:21,970 --> 00:25:23,403
>> IF MADOC HAD ACTUALLY LIVEDAND MIXED WITH THE MANDANS,
787
00:25:23,405 --> 00:25:24,604
AND MIXED WITH THE MANDANS,IT'S QUITE FEASIBLE THAT
788
00:25:24,606 --> 00:25:25,805
IT'S QUITE FEASIBLE THATTHE LANGUAGE WOULD HAVE PASSED
789
00:25:25,807 --> 00:25:27,273
THE LANGUAGE WOULD HAVE PASSEDTHROUGH.
790
00:25:27,275 --> 00:25:28,808
THROUGH.>> narrator: AT FIRST GLANCE,
791
00:25:28,810 --> 00:25:31,210
>> narrator: AT FIRST GLANCE,SOME WORDS DO APPEAR SIMILAR.
792
00:25:31,212 --> 00:25:33,446
SOME WORDS DO APPEAR SIMILAR.IN MANDAN, THE WORD"TI"
793
00:25:33,448 --> 00:25:34,781
IN MANDAN, THE WORD"TI"MEANS "HOUSE."
794
00:25:34,783 --> 00:25:36,282
MEANS "HOUSE."IN WELSH, THE WORD"TY"
795
00:25:36,284 --> 00:25:38,051
IN WELSH, THE WORD"TY"MEANS THE SAME THING.
796
00:25:38,053 --> 00:25:39,118
MEANS THE SAME THING.BUT THAT'S FAR FROM ENOUGH
797
00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:40,219
BUT THAT'S FAR FROM ENOUGHTO CONVINCE LINGUISTS OF
798
00:25:40,221 --> 00:25:42,956
TO CONVINCE LINGUISTS OFA CONNECTION.
799
00:25:42,958 --> 00:25:44,123
A CONNECTION.>> THERE'S NO LINGUISTIC
800
00:25:44,125 --> 00:25:44,991
>> THERE'S NO LINGUISTICEVIDENCE.
801
00:25:44,993 --> 00:25:45,825
EVIDENCE.THERE'S CLAIM TO BE
802
00:25:45,827 --> 00:25:46,726
THERE'S CLAIM TO BELINGUISTIC EVIDENCE.
803
00:25:46,728 --> 00:25:48,027
LINGUISTIC EVIDENCE.IN FACT, I'VE ANALYZED MOST
804
00:25:48,029 --> 00:25:50,296
IN FACT, I'VE ANALYZED MOSTOF WHAT THERE IS, AND IT'S WHAT
805
00:25:50,298 --> 00:25:53,132
OF WHAT THERE IS, AND IT'S WHATWE WOULD CALL SPURIOUS.
806
00:25:53,134 --> 00:25:54,467
WE WOULD CALL SPURIOUS.>> narrator: WHILE DNA TESTING
807
00:25:54,469 --> 00:25:56,202
>> narrator: WHILE DNA TESTINGOF MANDAN BLOOD COULD BE
808
00:25:56,204 --> 00:25:57,437
OF MANDAN BLOOD COULD BEVALUABLE IN DETERMINING
809
00:25:57,439 --> 00:25:59,005
VALUABLE IN DETERMININGIF THERE IS A WELSH CONNECTION,
810
00:25:59,007 --> 00:26:01,441
IF THERE IS A WELSH CONNECTION,IT'S NOT POSSIBLE.
811
00:26:01,443 --> 00:26:04,143
IT'S NOT POSSIBLE.IN 1837, A SMALLPOX EPIDEMIC
812
00:26:04,145 --> 00:26:06,479
IN 1837, A SMALLPOX EPIDEMICWIPED OUT ALL BUT ABOUT 150
813
00:26:06,481 --> 00:26:08,982
WIPED OUT ALL BUT ABOUT 150OF THE 1,600 MEMBER TRIBE,
814
00:26:08,984 --> 00:26:11,451
OF THE 1,600 MEMBER TRIBE,AND TODAY THERE ARE NO
815
00:26:11,453 --> 00:26:16,489
AND TODAY THERE ARE NOFULL-BLOOD MANDANS LEFT TO TEST.
816
00:26:16,491 --> 00:26:18,324
FULL-BLOOD MANDANS LEFT TO TEST.IN THE END, IT SEEMS THERE
817
00:26:18,326 --> 00:26:20,026
IN THE END, IT SEEMS THEREIS NO PROOF MADOC MADE IT
818
00:26:20,028 --> 00:26:22,228
IS NO PROOF MADOC MADE ITTO AMERICA AT ALL.
819
00:26:22,230 --> 00:26:24,030
TO AMERICA AT ALL.THE LEGEND IS PLAGUED NOT JUST
820
00:26:24,032 --> 00:26:26,466
THE LEGEND IS PLAGUED NOT JUSTBY A TIDE OF UNCERTAINTY
821
00:26:26,468 --> 00:26:31,938
BY A TIDE OF UNCERTAINTYBUT BY THE TIDE ITSELF.
822
00:26:31,940 --> 00:26:33,473
BUT BY THE TIDE ITSELF.>> I CAN TELL THAT THIS PATH
823
00:26:33,475 --> 00:26:35,742
>> I CAN TELL THAT THIS PATHIS PRETTY UNLIKELY.
824
00:26:35,744 --> 00:26:37,510
IS PRETTY UNLIKELY.OUR MODEL SHOWS THAT FOR A
825
00:26:37,512 --> 00:26:39,879
OUR MODEL SHOWS THAT FOR ASLOWLY MOVING BOAT, IT'S NEARLY
826
00:26:39,881 --> 00:26:42,482
SLOWLY MOVING BOAT, IT'S NEARLYIMPOSSIBLE TO MOVE WESTWARD
827
00:26:42,484 --> 00:26:45,485
IMPOSSIBLE TO MOVE WESTWARDBETWEEN FLORIDA AND CUBA.
828
00:26:45,487 --> 00:26:46,853
BETWEEN FLORIDA AND CUBA.>> narrator: THE DRIFT MODEL
829
00:26:46,855 --> 00:26:48,187
>> narrator: THE DRIFT MODELSHOWS PRINCE MADOC WOULD HAVE
830
00:26:48,189 --> 00:26:49,222
SHOWS PRINCE MADOC WOULD HAVEHAD A HARD TIME REACHING
831
00:26:49,224 --> 00:26:50,556
HAD A HARD TIME REACHINGHIS ALLEGED DOCKING POINT
832
00:26:50,558 --> 00:26:52,525
HIS ALLEGED DOCKING POINTIN MOBILE BAY.
833
00:26:52,527 --> 00:26:54,127
IN MOBILE BAY.A BOAT LIKE THEGWENAN GORN
834
00:26:54,129 --> 00:26:55,495
A BOAT LIKE THEGWENAN GORNLIKELY COULDN'T HAVE CROSSED
835
00:26:55,497 --> 00:26:57,063
LIKELY COULDN'T HAVE CROSSEDTHE POWERFUL GULF STREAM
836
00:26:57,065 --> 00:26:58,498
THE POWERFUL GULF STREAMBETWEEN THE SOUTHERN TIP
837
00:26:58,500 --> 00:26:59,899
BETWEEN THE SOUTHERN TIPOF FLORIDA AND CUBA.
838
00:26:59,901 --> 00:27:01,734
OF FLORIDA AND CUBA.THAT MEANS MADOC WOULD HAVE
839
00:27:01,736 --> 00:27:03,336
THAT MEANS MADOC WOULD HAVEHAD TO GO ALL THE WAY AROUND
840
00:27:03,338 --> 00:27:04,537
HAD TO GO ALL THE WAY AROUNDPUERTO RICO, JAMAICA,
841
00:27:04,539 --> 00:27:06,239
PUERTO RICO, JAMAICA,AND THE CAYMANS BEFORE
842
00:27:06,241 --> 00:27:08,241
AND THE CAYMANS BEFOREENTERING THE GULF OF MEXICO
843
00:27:08,243 --> 00:27:09,475
ENTERING THE GULF OF MEXICOTO REACH ALABAMA,
844
00:27:09,477 --> 00:27:12,378
TO REACH ALABAMA,ADDING MANY DAYS TO THE VOYAGE.
845
00:27:12,380 --> 00:27:13,913
ADDING MANY DAYS TO THE VOYAGE.>> TRAVEL FROM WALES TO
846
00:27:13,915 --> 00:27:15,882
>> TRAVEL FROM WALES TOMOBILE BAY WOULD REQUIRE
847
00:27:15,884 --> 00:27:17,717
MOBILE BAY WOULD REQUIREAT LEAST 300 DAYS.
848
00:27:17,719 --> 00:27:19,385
AT LEAST 300 DAYS.>> narrator: THAT'S 300 DAYS
849
00:27:19,387 --> 00:27:21,721
>> narrator: THAT'S 300 DAYSEACH WAY--TWICE--
850
00:27:21,723 --> 00:27:22,922
EACH WAY--TWICE--FOR MADOC IS SAID
851
00:27:22,924 --> 00:27:24,490
FOR MADOC IS SAIDTO HAVE MADE IT TO AMERICA
852
00:27:24,492 --> 00:27:27,760
TO HAVE MADE IT TO AMERICANOT ONCE BUT TWO TIMES.
853
00:27:27,762 --> 00:27:29,395
NOT ONCE BUT TWO TIMES.>> THERE'S CERTAINLY NO
854
00:27:29,397 --> 00:27:30,830
>> THERE'S CERTAINLY NOARCHAEOLOGICAL OR HARD FACT
855
00:27:30,832 --> 00:27:32,565
ARCHAEOLOGICAL OR HARD FACTEVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THAT,
856
00:27:32,567 --> 00:27:33,599
EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THAT,BUT IT IS CERTAINLY A BIG PART
857
00:27:33,601 --> 00:27:35,535
BUT IT IS CERTAINLY A BIG PARTOF THE STORY.
858
00:27:35,537 --> 00:27:36,402
OF THE STORY.>> narrator: RIGHT NOW,
859
00:27:36,404 --> 00:27:38,070
>> narrator: RIGHT NOW,THE MADOC THEORY IS VIEWED AS
860
00:27:38,072 --> 00:27:41,007
THE MADOC THEORY IS VIEWED ASA LEGEND BY MOST ARCHAEOLOGISTS.
861
00:27:41,009 --> 00:27:42,275
A LEGEND BY MOST ARCHAEOLOGISTS.>> AMERICAN ARCHAEOLOGISTS
862
00:27:42,277 --> 00:27:43,943
>> AMERICAN ARCHAEOLOGISTSREALLY FIND THAT IT'S PART
863
00:27:43,945 --> 00:27:46,179
REALLY FIND THAT IT'S PARTOF WHAT WE DO
864
00:27:46,181 --> 00:27:48,648
OF WHAT WE DOTO DEBUNK THOSE THEORIES
865
00:27:48,650 --> 00:27:49,982
TO DEBUNK THOSE THEORIESAND TO KEEP THOSE THINGS AT BAY,
866
00:27:49,984 --> 00:27:51,117
AND TO KEEP THOSE THINGS AT BAY,BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO--
867
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,718
BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO--MOST OF THEM HAVE NO
868
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,554
MOST OF THEM HAVE NOCREDIBLE SCIENTIFIC BASIS.
869
00:27:54,556 --> 00:27:55,788
CREDIBLE SCIENTIFIC BASIS.>> narrator: TERRY JONES HAS
870
00:27:55,790 --> 00:27:57,123
>> narrator: TERRY JONES HASSPENT YEARS STUDYING
871
00:27:57,125 --> 00:27:59,425
SPENT YEARS STUDYINGWHAT HE SAYS IS A MUCH MORE
872
00:27:59,427 --> 00:28:00,927
WHAT HE SAYS IS A MUCH MORELIKELY CASE OF PRE-COLUMBIAN
873
00:28:00,929 --> 00:28:03,296
LIKELY CASE OF PRE-COLUMBIANCONTACT, ONE STRONGLY SUPPORTED
874
00:28:03,298 --> 00:28:05,665
CONTACT, ONE STRONGLY SUPPORTEDBY SCIENCE BUT ONE THAT STILL
875
00:28:05,667 --> 00:28:06,566
BY SCIENCE BUT ONE THAT STILLCOMES WITH THE RISK
876
00:28:06,568 --> 00:28:08,835
COMES WITH THE RISKOF CAREER SUICIDE.
877
00:28:08,837 --> 00:28:10,770
OF CAREER SUICIDE.>> FOR THE FIRST TWO YEARS,
878
00:28:10,772 --> 00:28:12,438
>> FOR THE FIRST TWO YEARS,WE WOULDN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT IT
879
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:13,639
WE WOULDN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT ITIN PUBLIC.
880
00:28:13,641 --> 00:28:14,774
IN PUBLIC.>> narrator: ACROSS THE PACIFIC
881
00:28:14,776 --> 00:28:17,743
>> narrator: ACROSS THE PACIFICIN 1000 A.D., A NEW GROUP
882
00:28:17,745 --> 00:28:18,778
IN 1000 A.D., A NEW GROUPOF CONTENDERS EMERGES
883
00:28:18,780 --> 00:28:20,112
OF CONTENDERS EMERGESIN THE QUEST TO LEARN
884
00:28:20,114 --> 00:28:22,982
IN THE QUEST TO LEARNWHO REALLY DISCOVERED AMERICA.
885
00:28:22,984 --> 00:28:25,284
WHO REALLY DISCOVERED AMERICA.AND BACK IN THE NORTH ATLANTIC,
886
00:28:25,286 --> 00:28:26,953
AND BACK IN THE NORTH ATLANTIC,ONE OF THE MOST LEGENDARY
887
00:28:26,955 --> 00:28:28,754
ONE OF THE MOST LEGENDARYSAILORS EVER CHRONICLED
888
00:28:28,756 --> 00:28:30,289
SAILORS EVER CHRONICLEDLEAVES ON HIS OWN QUEST
889
00:28:30,291 --> 00:28:32,258
LEAVES ON HIS OWN QUESTTO THE WEST.
890
00:28:32,260 --> 00:28:38,831
>> narrator: POLYNESIA,1000 A.D.,
891
00:28:38,833 --> 00:28:42,969
1000 A.D.,492 YEARS BEFORE COLUMBUS.
892
00:28:42,971 --> 00:28:44,537
492 YEARS BEFORE COLUMBUS.ELSEWHERE IN THE WORLD,
893
00:28:44,539 --> 00:28:46,739
ELSEWHERE IN THE WORLD,CHINA IS INVENTING GUNPOWDER,
894
00:28:46,741 --> 00:28:48,140
CHINA IS INVENTING GUNPOWDER,AND A VERY IMPORTANT JOURNEY
895
00:28:48,142 --> 00:28:49,809
AND A VERY IMPORTANT JOURNEYBY NORSEMAN LEIF ERIKSSON
896
00:28:49,811 --> 00:28:50,643
BY NORSEMAN LEIF ERIKSSONIS TAKING PLACE IN
897
00:28:50,645 --> 00:28:52,812
IS TAKING PLACE INTHE NORTH ATLANTIC.
898
00:28:52,814 --> 00:28:55,348
THE NORTH ATLANTIC.IN POLYNESIA, EXPLORERS ARE
899
00:28:55,350 --> 00:28:56,449
IN POLYNESIA, EXPLORERS AREIN THE MIDST OF SETTLING THE
900
00:28:56,451 --> 00:28:58,818
IN THE MIDST OF SETTLING THEMARQUESAS AND HAWAIIAN ISLANDS,
901
00:28:58,820 --> 00:28:59,852
MARQUESAS AND HAWAIIAN ISLANDS,BUT DID THEY ALSO SAIL
902
00:28:59,854 --> 00:29:01,020
BUT DID THEY ALSO SAILBY THE STARS TO
903
00:29:01,022 --> 00:29:03,889
BY THE STARS TONORTH AND SOUTH AMERICA?
904
00:29:03,891 --> 00:29:04,790
NORTH AND SOUTH AMERICA?>> ANCIENT POLYNESIANS
905
00:29:04,792 --> 00:29:06,359
>> ANCIENT POLYNESIANSAS VOYAGERS, WELL,
906
00:29:06,361 --> 00:29:07,326
AS VOYAGERS, WELL,THEY'RE THE BEST.
907
00:29:07,328 --> 00:29:08,294
THEY'RE THE BEST.WE KNOW THAT THEY REACHED
908
00:29:08,296 --> 00:29:09,562
WE KNOW THAT THEY REACHEDEVERY DISTANT ISLAND
909
00:29:09,564 --> 00:29:10,863
EVERY DISTANT ISLANDIN THE PACIFIC, AND THEY DID IT
910
00:29:10,865 --> 00:29:12,565
IN THE PACIFIC, AND THEY DID ITIN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.
911
00:29:12,567 --> 00:29:13,666
IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.>> narrator: SPREAD OUT OVER
912
00:29:13,668 --> 00:29:16,202
>> narrator: SPREAD OUT OVERMORE THAN 7 MILLION SQUARE MILES
913
00:29:16,204 --> 00:29:18,004
MORE THAN 7 MILLION SQUARE MILESOF OCEAN, POLYNESIA COVERS
914
00:29:18,006 --> 00:29:19,639
OF OCEAN, POLYNESIA COVERSMORE AREA THAN ANY NATION
915
00:29:19,641 --> 00:29:21,040
MORE AREA THAN ANY NATIONIN THE WORLD.
916
00:29:21,042 --> 00:29:23,576
IN THE WORLD.THERE ARE 1,000 ISLANDS,
917
00:29:23,578 --> 00:29:25,978
THERE ARE 1,000 ISLANDS,AND BY 1380 A.D.,
918
00:29:25,980 --> 00:29:27,580
AND BY 1380 A.D.,POLYNESIAN VOYAGERS MANAGED
919
00:29:27,582 --> 00:29:29,849
POLYNESIAN VOYAGERS MANAGEDTO TRAVEL TO AND COLONIZE
920
00:29:29,851 --> 00:29:31,851
TO TRAVEL TO AND COLONIZEALL OF THEM.
921
00:29:31,853 --> 00:29:33,352
ALL OF THEM.>> POLYNESIA, BIGGEST NATION
922
00:29:33,354 --> 00:29:34,453
>> POLYNESIA, BIGGEST NATIONON EARTH, BIGGER THAN RUSSIA.
923
00:29:34,455 --> 00:29:35,721
ON EARTH, BIGGER THAN RUSSIA.THERE'S 600 TIMES MORE WATER
924
00:29:35,723 --> 00:29:36,922
THERE'S 600 TIMES MORE WATERTHAN THERE IS LAND.
925
00:29:36,924 --> 00:29:37,890
THAN THERE IS LAND.I WOULD ARGUE THAT THE
926
00:29:37,892 --> 00:29:39,191
I WOULD ARGUE THAT THEPOLYNESIANS WERE THE ONLY
927
00:29:39,193 --> 00:29:40,359
POLYNESIANS WERE THE ONLYCULTURE THAT WERE PURPOSELY
928
00:29:40,361 --> 00:29:41,594
CULTURE THAT WERE PURPOSELYVOYAGING, EXPLORING,
929
00:29:41,596 --> 00:29:43,696
VOYAGING, EXPLORING,AND NAVIGATING THE LARGEST OCEAN
930
00:29:43,698 --> 00:29:45,398
AND NAVIGATING THE LARGEST OCEANON EARTH AT A TIME WHEN
931
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,999
ON EARTH AT A TIME WHENOTHER CULTURES WEREN'T.
932
00:29:47,001 --> 00:29:48,334
OTHER CULTURES WEREN'T.>> IF YOU LOOK AT WORLD MARITIME
933
00:29:48,336 --> 00:29:49,368
>> IF YOU LOOK AT WORLD MARITIMEHISTORY AND YOU ASK WHO
934
00:29:49,370 --> 00:29:51,037
HISTORY AND YOU ASK WHOTHE MOST SUCCESSFUL NAVIGATORS
935
00:29:51,039 --> 00:29:52,038
THE MOST SUCCESSFUL NAVIGATORSARE AND THE MOST SUCCESSFUL
936
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,639
ARE AND THE MOST SUCCESSFULTYPES OF SHIPS, VERY FEW PEOPLE
937
00:29:53,641 --> 00:29:55,174
TYPES OF SHIPS, VERY FEW PEOPLEWOULD GIVE YOU THE CORRECT
938
00:29:55,176 --> 00:29:57,209
WOULD GIVE YOU THE CORRECTANSWER, WHICH IS THE POLYNESIAN
939
00:29:57,211 --> 00:29:59,512
ANSWER, WHICH IS THE POLYNESIANSEAGOING CANOE AND POLYNESIAN
940
00:29:59,514 --> 00:30:01,380
SEAGOING CANOE AND POLYNESIANNAVIGATORS.
941
00:30:01,382 --> 00:30:02,748
NAVIGATORS.>> narrator: POLYNESIAN VOYAGING
942
00:30:02,750 --> 00:30:04,083
>> narrator: POLYNESIAN VOYAGINGCANOES, ORTE PUKES,
943
00:30:04,085 --> 00:30:06,519
CANOES, ORTE PUKES,WERE UP TO 60 FEET LONG.
944
00:30:06,521 --> 00:30:07,720
WERE UP TO 60 FEET LONG.THEIR DOUBLE HULLS WERE MADE
945
00:30:07,722 --> 00:30:09,722
THEIR DOUBLE HULLS WERE MADEFROM LOGS OF THE KOA TREE,
946
00:30:09,724 --> 00:30:10,990
FROM LOGS OF THE KOA TREE,HOLLOWED OUT BY A TRADITIONAL
947
00:30:10,992 --> 00:30:12,625
HOLLOWED OUT BY A TRADITIONALTOOL CALLED AN ADZE
948
00:30:12,627 --> 00:30:14,060
TOOL CALLED AN ADZEOR MADE FROM SMALLER WOODEN
949
00:30:14,062 --> 00:30:16,062
OR MADE FROM SMALLER WOODENPLANKS SEWN TOGETHER.
950
00:30:16,064 --> 00:30:17,396
PLANKS SEWN TOGETHER.THEIR CRAB CLAW SAILS
951
00:30:17,398 --> 00:30:18,631
THEIR CRAB CLAW SAILSWERE WOVEN TOGETHER OUT OF
952
00:30:18,633 --> 00:30:19,832
WERE WOVEN TOGETHER OUT OFLAUHALA LEAVES,
953
00:30:19,834 --> 00:30:21,734
LAUHALA LEAVES,AND SOME 1,500 FEET OF
954
00:30:21,736 --> 00:30:23,436
AND SOME 1,500 FEET OFHAND-WOUND COCONUT FIBERS
955
00:30:23,438 --> 00:30:27,173
HAND-WOUND COCONUT FIBERSWERE USED FOR LASHINGS.
956
00:30:27,175 --> 00:30:32,478
>>HOKULE'A, WE BELIEVE
WITH AN AWFUL LOT OF RESEARCH,
957
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,280
WITH AN AWFUL LOT OF RESEARCH,
IS KIND OF A DESIGN-ACCURATE
958
00:30:34,282 --> 00:30:35,748
IS KIND OF A DESIGN-ACCURATE
REPLICA OF THE DEEP-SEA VOYAGING
959
00:30:35,750 --> 00:30:37,416
REPLICA OF THE DEEP-SEA VOYAGING
CANOES THAT WAS THE MAIN TOOL
960
00:30:37,418 --> 00:30:39,118
CANOES THAT WAS THE MAIN TOOL
THAT WAS USED TO EXPLORE
961
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,887
THAT WAS USED TO EXPLORE
AND COLONIZE ALL OF POLYNESIA.
962
00:30:41,889 --> 00:30:42,755
AND COLONIZE ALL OF POLYNESIA.
>> narrator: THIS IS THE
963
00:30:42,757 --> 00:30:44,523
>> narrator: THIS IS THE
HOKULE'A, BUILT USING SOME
964
00:30:44,525 --> 00:30:47,293
HOKULE'A, BUILT USING SOME
OF THOSE ANCIENT SPECIFICATIONS.
965
00:30:47,295 --> 00:30:48,661
OF THOSE ANCIENT SPECIFICATIONS.
IT DOES HAVE A MODERN SAIL
966
00:30:48,663 --> 00:30:50,796
IT DOES HAVE A MODERN SAIL
AND OTHER MODERN TOUCHES,
967
00:30:50,798 --> 00:30:52,064
AND OTHER MODERN TOUCHES,
BUT THE BASIC HULL DESIGN
968
00:30:52,066 --> 00:30:53,899
BUT THE BASIC HULL DESIGN
IS THE SAME.
969
00:30:53,901 --> 00:30:54,967
IS THE SAME.
>> AT THE TIME THAT HOKULE'A
970
00:30:54,969 --> 00:30:55,835
>> AT THE TIME THAT HOKULE'AWAS BEING CONSTRUCTED,
971
00:30:55,837 --> 00:30:56,936
WAS BEING CONSTRUCTED,THERE WAS NO OTHER PHYSICAL
972
00:30:56,938 --> 00:30:58,070
THERE WAS NO OTHER PHYSICALDEEP-SEA VOYAGING CANOE
973
00:30:58,072 --> 00:30:59,672
DEEP-SEA VOYAGING CANOEON EARTH, AND SO IT HAD TO BE
974
00:30:59,674 --> 00:31:01,173
ON EARTH, AND SO IT HAD TO BERECONSTRUCTED FROM BOTH
975
00:31:01,175 --> 00:31:02,541
RECONSTRUCTED FROM BOTHMODERN SCIENCE
976
00:31:02,543 --> 00:31:03,709
MODERN SCIENCEAS WELL AS CULTURE
977
00:31:03,711 --> 00:31:06,078
AS WELL AS CULTUREAND ORAL HISTORIES.
978
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:13,118
>> narrator: THE POLYNESIANVOYAGING SOCIETY FIRST LAUNCHED
979
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,688
VOYAGING SOCIETY FIRST LAUNCHEDTHEHOKULE'A IN THE 1970s
980
00:31:15,690 --> 00:31:16,789
THEHOKULE'A IN THE 1970s
TO CHALLENGE THE IDEA THAT
981
00:31:16,791 --> 00:31:18,290
TO CHALLENGE THE IDEA THAT
POLYNESIA WAS SETTLED
982
00:31:18,292 --> 00:31:19,859
POLYNESIA WAS SETTLED
FROM EAST TO WEST BY THE INCA
983
00:31:19,861 --> 00:31:21,794
FROM EAST TO WEST BY THE INCA
FROM SOUTH AMERICA.
984
00:31:21,796 --> 00:31:23,262
FROM SOUTH AMERICA.
THAT THEORY WAS FIRST PROPOSED
985
00:31:23,264 --> 00:31:24,730
THAT THEORY WAS FIRST PROPOSED
BY NOTABLE ADVENTURER
986
00:31:24,732 --> 00:31:27,600
BY NOTABLE ADVENTURER
THOR HEYERDAHL IN THE 1940s,
987
00:31:27,602 --> 00:31:29,301
THOR HEYERDAHL IN THE 1940s,
WHO SUGGESTED STATUES LIKE THESE
988
00:31:29,303 --> 00:31:31,136
WHO SUGGESTED STATUES LIKE THESE
ON EASTER ISLAND WERE INCAN
989
00:31:31,138 --> 00:31:32,972
ON EASTER ISLAND WERE INCAN
IN ORIGIN.
990
00:31:32,974 --> 00:31:34,073
IN ORIGIN.
TO HELP PROVE THE VOYAGE
991
00:31:34,075 --> 00:31:35,708
TO HELP PROVE THE VOYAGE
WAS POSSIBLE, HE BUILT AND
992
00:31:35,710 --> 00:31:37,443
WAS POSSIBLE, HE BUILT AND
SUCCESSFULLY SAILED HIS OWN
993
00:31:37,445 --> 00:31:39,511
SUCCESSFULLY SAILED HIS OWN
RAFT CALLED THE KON-TIKI FROM
994
00:31:39,513 --> 00:31:41,347
RAFT CALLED THE KON-TIKI FROM
SOUTH AMERICA TO THE TUAMOTU
995
00:31:41,349 --> 00:31:44,483
SOUTH AMERICA TO THE TUAMOTU
ISLANDS IN POLYNESIA IN 1947.
996
00:31:44,485 --> 00:31:45,818
ISLANDS IN POLYNESIA IN 1947.
EVEN THOUGH THE SAIL WAS
997
00:31:45,820 --> 00:31:47,987
EVEN THOUGH THE SAIL WAS
SUCCESSFUL, ACADEMICS BALKED
998
00:31:47,989 --> 00:31:50,256
SUCCESSFUL, ACADEMICS BALKED
AT HIS THEORY.
999
00:31:50,258 --> 00:31:51,257
AT HIS THEORY.
>> THE SOUTH AMERICANS AREN'T
1000
00:31:51,259 --> 00:31:52,958
>> THE SOUTH AMERICANS AREN'T
KNOWN FOR HAVING SEAWORTHY
1001
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,160
KNOWN FOR HAVING SEAWORTHY
CANOES OR FOR HAVING
1002
00:31:55,162 --> 00:31:57,062
CANOES OR FOR HAVING
HIGH VOYAGING CAPABILITIES,
1003
00:31:57,064 --> 00:31:58,297
HIGH VOYAGING CAPABILITIES,
SO IT REALLY MAKES MORE SENSE
1004
00:31:58,299 --> 00:31:59,531
SO IT REALLY MAKES MORE SENSE
THAT THE POLYNESIANS MADE IT
1005
00:31:59,533 --> 00:32:02,601
THAT THE POLYNESIANS MADE IT
TO SOUTH AMERICA.
1006
00:32:02,603 --> 00:32:03,736
TO SOUTH AMERICA.
>> narrator: POLYNESIANS WERE
1007
00:32:03,738 --> 00:32:05,271
>> narrator: POLYNESIANS WERE
ABLE TO ISLAND-HOP ACROSS
1008
00:32:05,273 --> 00:32:07,006
ABLE TO ISLAND-HOP ACROSS
THE PACIFIC BECAUSE THEY KNEW
1009
00:32:07,008 --> 00:32:08,307
THE PACIFIC BECAUSE THEY KNEW
WHAT TO TAKE WITH THEM
1010
00:32:08,309 --> 00:32:09,742
WHAT TO TAKE WITH THEM
TO SURVIVE, LIKE PLANTS
1011
00:32:09,744 --> 00:32:11,010
TO SURVIVE, LIKE PLANTS
AND CHICKENS,
1012
00:32:11,012 --> 00:32:12,177
AND CHICKENS,
CHICKENS THEY MAY HAVE
1013
00:32:12,179 --> 00:32:15,147
CHICKENS THEY MAY HAVE
INTRODUCED TO SOUTH AMERICA.
1014
00:32:15,149 --> 00:32:16,982
INTRODUCED TO SOUTH AMERICA.
>> WE HAVE A VERY GOOD CASE FOR
1015
00:32:16,984 --> 00:32:19,752
>> WE HAVE A VERY GOOD CASE FOR
CHICKENS MOVING FROM POLYNESIA
1016
00:32:19,754 --> 00:32:21,987
CHICKENS MOVING FROM POLYNESIA
TO SOUTH AMERICA.
1017
00:32:21,989 --> 00:32:23,355
TO SOUTH AMERICA.
THE DISCOVERY OF CHICKEN BONES
1018
00:32:23,357 --> 00:32:24,723
THE DISCOVERY OF CHICKEN BONES
FROM CHILE HAS TURNED OUT
1019
00:32:24,725 --> 00:32:26,258
FROM CHILE HAS TURNED OUT
TO BE VERY EXCITING.
1020
00:32:26,260 --> 00:32:27,092
TO BE VERY EXCITING.
>> narrator: WHEN THESE
1021
00:32:27,094 --> 00:32:28,560
>> narrator: WHEN THESE
CHICKEN BONES WITH POLYNESIAN
1022
00:32:28,562 --> 00:32:29,762
CHICKEN BONES WITH POLYNESIAN
TRAITS WERE UNEARTHED IN
1023
00:32:29,764 --> 00:32:31,397
TRAITS WERE UNEARTHED IN
SOUTH AMERICA, THEY WERE
1024
00:32:31,399 --> 00:32:33,365
SOUTH AMERICA, THEY WERE
IMMEDIATELY CONTROVERSIAL.
1025
00:32:33,367 --> 00:32:34,533
IMMEDIATELY CONTROVERSIAL.
WHILE MANY SCIENTISTS
1026
00:32:34,535 --> 00:32:36,235
WHILE MANY SCIENTISTS
ORIGINALLY THOUGHT CHICKENS
1027
00:32:36,237 --> 00:32:37,536
ORIGINALLY THOUGHT CHICKENS
WERE INTRODUCED TO SOUTH AMERICA
1028
00:32:37,538 --> 00:32:39,405
WERE INTRODUCED TO SOUTH AMERICA
BY SPANISH EXPLORERS IN
1029
00:32:39,407 --> 00:32:42,374
BY SPANISH EXPLORERS IN
THE 1500s, THE RADIOCARBON DATE
1030
00:32:42,376 --> 00:32:43,375
THE 1500s, THE RADIOCARBON DATE
OF THESE BONES WOULD
1031
00:32:43,377 --> 00:32:44,877
OF THESE BONES WOULD
PROVE OTHERWISE.
1032
00:32:44,879 --> 00:32:49,148
PROVE OTHERWISE.
THEY'RE PRE-COLUMBIAN.
1033
00:32:49,150 --> 00:32:49,982
THEY'RE PRE-COLUMBIAN.
>> POLYNESIANS MADE IT
1034
00:32:49,984 --> 00:32:51,784
>> POLYNESIANS MADE IT
TO SOUTH AMERICA,
1035
00:32:51,786 --> 00:32:53,319
TO SOUTH AMERICA,
PROBABLY DROPPED OFF CHICKEN
1036
00:32:53,321 --> 00:32:54,620
PROBABLY DROPPED OFF CHICKEN
WHILE THEY WERE THERE,
1037
00:32:54,622 --> 00:32:55,688
WHILE THEY WERE THERE,
PICKED UP THE SWEET POTATO,
1038
00:32:55,690 --> 00:32:56,989
PICKED UP THE SWEET POTATO,
AND THEN MADE THE TWO-WAY VOYAGE
1039
00:32:56,991 --> 00:32:59,858
AND THEN MADE THE TWO-WAY VOYAGE
BACK TO POLYNESIA.
1040
00:32:59,860 --> 00:33:00,793
BACK TO POLYNESIA.
>> narrator: SWEET POTATOES
1041
00:33:00,795 --> 00:33:01,894
>> narrator: SWEET POTATOES
ARE NOT BELIEVED TO BE NATIVE
1042
00:33:01,896 --> 00:33:03,796
ARE NOT BELIEVED TO BE NATIVE
TO POLYNESIA, BUT THEY ARE
1043
00:33:03,798 --> 00:33:05,564
TO POLYNESIA, BUT THEY ARE
NATIVE TO SOUTH AMERICA,
1044
00:33:05,566 --> 00:33:08,767
NATIVE TO SOUTH AMERICA,
A POSSIBLE CLUE.
1045
00:33:08,769 --> 00:33:15,407
>> THE SWEET POTATOES ARE THESE
LOW, VINY PLANTS,
1046
00:33:15,409 --> 00:33:16,575
LOW, VINY PLANTS,
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT
1047
00:33:16,577 --> 00:33:18,911
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT
THEY'RE FLOWERING HERE.
1048
00:33:18,913 --> 00:33:20,079
THEY'RE FLOWERING HERE.
>> narrator: STUDIES ON CHARRED
1049
00:33:20,081 --> 00:33:21,580
>> narrator: STUDIES ON CHARRED
SWEET POTATO REMAINS FOUND
1050
00:33:21,582 --> 00:33:23,582
SWEET POTATO REMAINS FOUND
IN POLYNESIA SUGGEST THE PLANT
1051
00:33:23,584 --> 00:33:25,050
IN POLYNESIA SUGGEST THE PLANT
WAS INTRODUCED TO THE ISLANDS
1052
00:33:25,052 --> 00:33:27,252
WAS INTRODUCED TO THE ISLANDS
IN PRE-COLUMBIAN TIMES.
1053
00:33:27,254 --> 00:33:28,220
IN PRE-COLUMBIAN TIMES.
>> SWEET POTATO IS AN
1054
00:33:28,222 --> 00:33:29,288
>> SWEET POTATO IS AN
AMERICAN PLANT.
1055
00:33:29,290 --> 00:33:30,689
AMERICAN PLANT.
IT HAS WILD POPULATIONS
1056
00:33:30,691 --> 00:33:32,524
IT HAS WILD POPULATIONS
IN CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA.
1057
00:33:32,526 --> 00:33:33,692
IN CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA.
IT WAS DOMESTICATED BY
1058
00:33:33,694 --> 00:33:35,260
IT WAS DOMESTICATED BY
NATIVE AMERICANS THOUSANDS
1059
00:33:35,262 --> 00:33:37,930
NATIVE AMERICANS THOUSANDS
OF YEARS AGO.
1060
00:33:37,932 --> 00:33:38,964
OF YEARS AGO.
>> WE KNEW THAT SWEET POTATO
1061
00:33:38,966 --> 00:33:40,099
>> WE KNEW THAT SWEET POTATO
HAD BEEN INTRODUCED FROM
1062
00:33:40,101 --> 00:33:40,933
HAD BEEN INTRODUCED FROM
SOMEWHERE ELSE.
1063
00:33:40,935 --> 00:33:42,401
SOMEWHERE ELSE.
THE LINGUISTIC NAME FOR
1064
00:33:42,403 --> 00:33:43,836
THE LINGUISTIC NAME FOR
SWEET POTATO, KUMARA,
1065
00:33:43,838 --> 00:33:45,938
SWEET POTATO, KUMARA,
IS NOT A POLYNESIAN WORD.
1066
00:33:45,940 --> 00:33:47,239
IS NOT A POLYNESIAN WORD.
AND LINGUISTS HAD LOOKED FOR
1067
00:33:47,241 --> 00:33:49,007
AND LINGUISTS HAD LOOKED FOR
A LONG TIME TO FIND OUT WHERE
1068
00:33:49,009 --> 00:33:50,876
A LONG TIME TO FIND OUT WHERE
THE WORD KUMARA CAME FROM,
1069
00:33:50,878 --> 00:33:51,944
THE WORD KUMARA CAME FROM,
AND IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN LINKED
1070
00:33:51,946 --> 00:33:53,612
AND IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN LINKED
TO AN ECUADORIAN TRIBE
1071
00:33:53,614 --> 00:33:55,247
TO AN ECUADORIAN TRIBE
THAT ARE INTENSIVE SWEET POTATO
1072
00:33:55,249 --> 00:33:56,849
THAT ARE INTENSIVE SWEET POTATO
PRODUCERS.
1073
00:33:56,851 --> 00:33:59,118
PRODUCERS.
>> IT IS ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN
1074
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,753
>> IT IS ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN
THAT WE HAVE PRE-COLUMBIAN
1075
00:34:00,755 --> 00:34:02,421
THAT WE HAVE PRE-COLUMBIAN
SWEET POTATO, PRE-EUROPEAN
1076
00:34:02,423 --> 00:34:04,590
SWEET POTATO, PRE-EUROPEAN
SWEET POTATO, IN POLYNESIA,
1077
00:34:04,592 --> 00:34:05,457
SWEET POTATO, IN POLYNESIA,
AND THAT IT WAS TRANSFERRED
1078
00:34:05,459 --> 00:34:08,427
AND THAT IT WAS TRANSFERRED
BY PEOPLE, NOT BY FLOATING
1079
00:34:08,429 --> 00:34:09,628
BY PEOPLE, NOT BY FLOATING
OR BY BIRDS, BECAUSE
1080
00:34:09,630 --> 00:34:11,964
OR BY BIRDS, BECAUSE
YOU DON'T GET THE WORD TRAVELING
1081
00:34:11,966 --> 00:34:14,600
YOU DON'T GET THE WORD TRAVELING
WITH THE POTATO IF IT'S NOT
1082
00:34:14,602 --> 00:34:16,235
WITH THE POTATO IF IT'S NOT
FACE-TO-FACE TRANSFER OF
1083
00:34:16,237 --> 00:34:18,871
FACE-TO-FACE TRANSFER OF
THE SWEET POTATO.
1084
00:34:18,873 --> 00:34:19,771
THE SWEET POTATO.
>> narrator: THERE'S EVEN
1085
00:34:19,773 --> 00:34:21,340
>> narrator: THERE'S EVEN
EVIDENCE THE POLYNESIANS MADE IT
1086
00:34:21,342 --> 00:34:23,242
EVIDENCE THE POLYNESIANS MADE IT
FARTHER NORTH, TO WHAT WOULD
1087
00:34:23,244 --> 00:34:25,878
FARTHER NORTH, TO WHAT WOULD
BECOME THE UNITED STATES.
1088
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,880
BECOME THE UNITED STATES.
NEAR SANTA BARBARA, CALIFORNIA,
1089
00:34:27,882 --> 00:34:29,414
NEAR SANTA BARBARA, CALIFORNIA,
A TRIBE CALLED THE CHUMASH
1090
00:34:29,416 --> 00:34:30,782
A TRIBE CALLED THE CHUMASH
HAS BEEN BUILDING THIS TYPE OF
1091
00:34:30,784 --> 00:34:31,783
HAS BEEN BUILDING THIS TYPE OF
SEWN-PLANK CANOE SINCE
1092
00:34:31,785 --> 00:34:35,120
SEWN-PLANK CANOE SINCE
AT LEAST 1000 A.D., CALLING IT
1093
00:34:35,122 --> 00:34:37,222
AT LEAST 1000 A.D., CALLING IT
A TOMOLO'O.
1094
00:34:37,224 --> 00:34:38,524
A TOMOLO'O.LINGUISTS SAY THAT'S HOW THE
1095
00:34:38,526 --> 00:34:39,992
LINGUISTS SAY THAT'S HOW THECHUMASH WOULD HAVE PRONOUNCED
1096
00:34:39,994 --> 00:34:41,760
CHUMASH WOULD HAVE PRONOUNCEDTHE EASTERN CENTRAL POLYNESIAN
1097
00:34:41,762 --> 00:34:43,295
THE EASTERN CENTRAL POLYNESIANWORD FOR THE SAME BOAT,
1098
00:34:43,297 --> 00:34:47,966
WORD FOR THE SAME BOAT,ONE THEY CALL ATUMURAA'AU.
1099
00:34:47,968 --> 00:34:48,901
ONE THEY CALL ATUMURAA'AU.>> THEY WOULD HAVE TROUBLE
1100
00:34:48,903 --> 00:34:49,902
>> THEY WOULD HAVE TROUBLEPRONOUNCING THAT, AND IT WOULD
1101
00:34:49,904 --> 00:34:51,703
PRONOUNCING THAT, AND IT WOULDCOME OUTTOMOLO'O.
1102
00:34:51,705 --> 00:34:53,338
COME OUTTOMOLO'O.THAT'S VERY NORMAL, REGULAR
1103
00:34:53,340 --> 00:34:54,773
THAT'S VERY NORMAL, REGULARIN CHUMASH.
1104
00:34:54,775 --> 00:34:55,974
IN CHUMASH.>> narrator: THE CHUMASH ARE
1105
00:34:55,976 --> 00:34:56,909
>> narrator: THE CHUMASH ARETHOUGHT TO HAVE STARTED USING
1106
00:34:56,911 --> 00:34:58,877
THOUGHT TO HAVE STARTED USINGTHE WORDTOMOLO'O SOMETIME
1107
00:34:58,879 --> 00:35:02,047
THE WORDTOMOLO'O SOMETIME
BETWEEN 500 AND 1200 A.D.
1108
00:35:02,049 --> 00:35:03,081
BETWEEN 500 AND 1200 A.D.
BUT IT'S MORE THAN THE WORD
1109
00:35:03,083 --> 00:35:04,950
BUT IT'S MORE THAN THE WORD
FOR THIS CANOE THAT'S IMPORTANT.
1110
00:35:04,952 --> 00:35:06,952
FOR THIS CANOE THAT'S IMPORTANT.
IT'S ALSO THE CANOE ITSELF,
1111
00:35:06,954 --> 00:35:08,487
IT'S ALSO THE CANOE ITSELF,
WHICH HAS A DESIGN THAT TURNS
1112
00:35:08,489 --> 00:35:12,024
WHICH HAS A DESIGN THAT TURNS
OUT TO BE RARE, VERY RARE.
1113
00:35:12,026 --> 00:35:13,492
OUT TO BE RARE, VERY RARE.
>> ONCE THE PLANKS WERE CREATED,
1114
00:35:13,494 --> 00:35:15,360
>> ONCE THE PLANKS WERE CREATED,
THERE WOULD BE HOLES DRILLED.
1115
00:35:15,362 --> 00:35:16,695
THERE WOULD BE HOLES DRILLED.
WE HAVE HOLES ON OPPOSING
1116
00:35:16,697 --> 00:35:19,331
WE HAVE HOLES ON OPPOSING
EDGES OF THE PLANKS THAT WERE
1117
00:35:19,333 --> 00:35:21,733
EDGES OF THE PLANKS THAT WERE
SEWN TOGETHER USING THIS
1118
00:35:21,735 --> 00:35:24,703
SEWN TOGETHER USING THIS
VEGETABLE PRODUCT-BASED CORDAGE.
1119
00:35:24,705 --> 00:35:26,505
VEGETABLE PRODUCT-BASED CORDAGE.
THAT'S A COMMON TECHNOLOGY
1120
00:35:26,507 --> 00:35:28,206
THAT'S A COMMON TECHNOLOGY
THROUGHOUT ALL OF POLYNESIA,
1121
00:35:28,208 --> 00:35:30,242
THROUGHOUT ALL OF POLYNESIA,
AND IT'S ONLY SEEN IN TWO PLACES
1122
00:35:30,244 --> 00:35:32,945
AND IT'S ONLY SEEN IN TWO PLACES
IN THE ENTIRE NATIVE NEW WORLD:
1123
00:35:32,947 --> 00:35:34,546
IN THE ENTIRE NATIVE NEW WORLD:
THE COAST OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
1124
00:35:34,548 --> 00:35:36,381
THE COAST OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
AND THE COAST OF CHILE.
1125
00:35:36,383 --> 00:35:38,016
AND THE COAST OF CHILE.
>> narrator: COMMON WORDS,
1126
00:35:38,018 --> 00:35:39,685
>> narrator: COMMON WORDS,
COMMON ENGINEERING,
1127
00:35:39,687 --> 00:35:43,055
COMMON ENGINEERING,
AND THERE'S MORE: FISHHOOKS.
1128
00:35:43,057 --> 00:35:45,457
AND THERE'S MORE: FISHHOOKS.
THIS IS DR. YOSIHIKO SINOTO,
1129
00:35:45,459 --> 00:35:47,459
THIS IS DR. YOSIHIKO SINOTO,
A VERITABLE EXPERT ON FISHHOOKS,
1130
00:35:47,461 --> 00:35:48,627
A VERITABLE EXPERT ON FISHHOOKS,
WHO'S STUDIED THEM ALL OVER
1131
00:35:48,629 --> 00:35:49,962
WHO'S STUDIED THEM ALL OVER
THE PACIFIC.
1132
00:35:49,964 --> 00:35:50,963
THE PACIFIC.
HE HAS A COLLECTION
1133
00:35:50,965 --> 00:35:52,064
HE HAS A COLLECTION
OF PRIMITIVE FISHHOOKS
1134
00:35:52,066 --> 00:35:53,465
OF PRIMITIVE FISHHOOKS
FOUND OFF CATALINA ISLAND
1135
00:35:53,467 --> 00:35:55,467
FOUND OFF CATALINA ISLAND
NEAR LOS ANGELES.
1136
00:35:55,469 --> 00:36:02,841
>> narrator: THE CATALINA
FISHHOOKS SEEM TO MATCH
1137
00:36:02,843 --> 00:36:04,376
FISHHOOKS SEEM TO MATCH
FISHHOOKS MADE IN TAHITI
1138
00:36:04,378 --> 00:36:06,845
FISHHOOKS MADE IN TAHITI
AROUND 1000 A.D.
1139
00:36:06,847 --> 00:36:08,280
AROUND 1000 A.D.
FISHING FOR FOOD IS ONE WAY
1140
00:36:08,282 --> 00:36:09,414
FISHING FOR FOOD IS ONE WAY
THEY COULD HAVE SURVIVED
1141
00:36:09,416 --> 00:36:11,149
THEY COULD HAVE SURVIVED
A 4,000-MILE VOYAGE FROM
1142
00:36:11,151 --> 00:36:12,651
A 4,000-MILE VOYAGE FROM
THE CENTER OF POLYNESIA
1143
00:36:12,653 --> 00:36:14,853
THE CENTER OF POLYNESIA
TO CALIFORNIA.
1144
00:36:14,855 --> 00:36:16,555
TO CALIFORNIA.
BUT WHAT DO DR. MAXIMENKO'S
1145
00:36:16,557 --> 00:36:18,256
BUT WHAT DO DR. MAXIMENKO'S
MAPS OF OCEAN CURRENTS SAY
1146
00:36:18,258 --> 00:36:21,326
MAPS OF OCEAN CURRENTS SAY
ABOUT ALL OF THIS?
1147
00:36:21,328 --> 00:36:23,862
ABOUT ALL OF THIS?
>> FOR A POLYNESIAN VOYAGE FROM
1148
00:36:23,864 --> 00:36:26,164
>> FOR A POLYNESIAN VOYAGE FROM
COOK ISLANDS TO SANTA BARBARA
1149
00:36:26,166 --> 00:36:28,567
COOK ISLANDS TO SANTA BARBARA
AREA IN CALIFORNIA, THE PATH
1150
00:36:28,569 --> 00:36:32,037
AREA IN CALIFORNIA, THE PATH
WOULD REQUIRE NEARLY 300 DAYS.
1151
00:36:32,039 --> 00:36:35,006
WOULD REQUIRE NEARLY 300 DAYS.
THAT VOYAGE WOULD IMPLY A LOT
1152
00:36:35,008 --> 00:36:37,743
THAT VOYAGE WOULD IMPLY A LOT
OF PADDLING, AND IF THEY WERE
1153
00:36:37,745 --> 00:36:39,611
OF PADDLING, AND IF THEY WERE
ABLE TO DO THAT, THEY COULD
1154
00:36:39,613 --> 00:36:43,014
ABLE TO DO THAT, THEY COULD
MAKE IT.
1155
00:36:43,016 --> 00:36:43,915
MAKE IT.
>> WE KNOW FOR A FACT THAT
1156
00:36:43,917 --> 00:36:46,585
>> WE KNOW FOR A FACT THAT
THE POLYNESIANS MADE VOYAGES
1157
00:36:46,587 --> 00:36:49,354
THE POLYNESIANS MADE VOYAGES
OF 2,000 TO 3,000 KILOMETERS
1158
00:36:49,356 --> 00:36:51,156
OF 2,000 TO 3,000 KILOMETERS
ACROSS OPEN WATER NOT KNOWING
1159
00:36:51,158 --> 00:36:52,758
ACROSS OPEN WATER NOT KNOWING
WHETHER THERE WAS SOMETHING
1160
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,460
WHETHER THERE WAS SOMETHING
TO BE FOUND, TO BE DISCOVERED.
1161
00:36:55,462 --> 00:36:57,396
TO BE FOUND, TO BE DISCOVERED.
>> IT'S IMPORTANT TO REALIZE
1162
00:36:57,398 --> 00:37:00,198
>> IT'S IMPORTANT TO REALIZE
THAT THEIR VOYAGES WERE EXPLICIT
1163
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:01,400
THAT THEIR VOYAGES WERE EXPLICIT
VOYAGES OF DISCOVERY.
1164
00:37:01,402 --> 00:37:02,834
VOYAGES OF DISCOVERY.
THIS ISN'T A MATTER OF LOST
1165
00:37:02,836 --> 00:37:04,703
THIS ISN'T A MATTER OF LOST
CANOES OR PEOPLE RUNNING AWAY
1166
00:37:04,705 --> 00:37:07,806
CANOES OR PEOPLE RUNNING AWAY
FROM WARS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
1167
00:37:07,808 --> 00:37:08,940
FROM WARS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE MOVEMENT
1168
00:37:08,942 --> 00:37:11,042
IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE MOVEMENT
ACROSS THE SOUTH PACIFIC INTO
1169
00:37:11,044 --> 00:37:13,211
ACROSS THE SOUTH PACIFIC INTO
THE TRADE WINDS FROM ASIA
1170
00:37:13,213 --> 00:37:14,312
THE TRADE WINDS FROM ASIA
ALL THE WAY TO ULTIMATELY
1171
00:37:14,314 --> 00:37:16,748
ALL THE WAY TO ULTIMATELY
SOUTH AMERICA, THAT SEEMS LIKE
1172
00:37:16,750 --> 00:37:17,649
SOUTH AMERICA, THAT SEEMS LIKE
AN EXTRAORDINARY THING,
1173
00:37:17,651 --> 00:37:19,818
AN EXTRAORDINARY THING,
SAILING THAT FAR INTO THE WIND.
1174
00:37:19,820 --> 00:37:21,286
SAILING THAT FAR INTO THE WIND.
BUT ACTUALLY, IT MAKES SOME
1175
00:37:21,288 --> 00:37:22,654
BUT ACTUALLY, IT MAKES SOME
SENSE.
1176
00:37:22,656 --> 00:37:24,623
SENSE.
>> ORIGINALLY, THE THINKING WAS,
1177
00:37:24,625 --> 00:37:25,490
>> ORIGINALLY, THE THINKING WAS,
WHY WOULD YOU GO UPWIND
1178
00:37:25,492 --> 00:37:26,324
WHY WOULD YOU GO UPWIND
TO FIND LAND?
1179
00:37:26,326 --> 00:37:28,126
TO FIND LAND?
WELL, BECAUSE IF YOU GO DOWNWIND
1180
00:37:28,128 --> 00:37:29,127
WELL, BECAUSE IF YOU GO DOWNWIND
AND YOU DON'T FIND IT,
1181
00:37:29,129 --> 00:37:30,729
AND YOU DON'T FIND IT,
IT'S SO HARD TO COME BACK.
1182
00:37:30,731 --> 00:37:32,631
IT'S SO HARD TO COME BACK.
SO GOING EAST IS ACTUALLY
1183
00:37:32,633 --> 00:37:34,065
SO GOING EAST IS ACTUALLY
A SAFER DIRECTION TO GO
1184
00:37:34,067 --> 00:37:37,335
A SAFER DIRECTION TO GO
KNOWING THAT YOU CAN COME HOME.
1185
00:37:37,337 --> 00:37:38,303
KNOWING THAT YOU CAN COME HOME.
>> narrator: WHAT POLYNESIAN
1186
00:37:38,305 --> 00:37:39,938
>> narrator: WHAT POLYNESIAN
ADVENTURERS ILLUSTRATE IS
1187
00:37:39,940 --> 00:37:40,906
ADVENTURERS ILLUSTRATE IS
A CONCEPT THAT'S AT THE
1188
00:37:40,908 --> 00:37:42,474
A CONCEPT THAT'S AT THE
FOREFRONT OF ALL PRE-COLUMBIAN
1189
00:37:42,476 --> 00:37:44,476
FOREFRONT OF ALL PRE-COLUMBIAN
EXPLORATION THEORIES:
1190
00:37:44,478 --> 00:37:45,844
EXPLORATION THEORIES:
THE CONCEPT THAT THE OCEAN
1191
00:37:45,846 --> 00:37:47,479
THE CONCEPT THAT THE OCEAN
IS EASIER TO CROSS THAN
1192
00:37:47,481 --> 00:37:49,648
IS EASIER TO CROSS THAN
ONE MIGHT THINK.
1193
00:37:49,650 --> 00:37:51,583
ONE MIGHT THINK.
>> WATER NEVER IS A BARRIER
1194
00:37:51,585 --> 00:37:52,517
>> WATER NEVER IS A BARRIER
TO PEOPLE.
1195
00:37:52,519 --> 00:37:53,819
TO PEOPLE.
MOUNTAINS CAN BE A BARRIER.
1196
00:37:53,821 --> 00:37:54,853
MOUNTAINS CAN BE A BARRIER.
YOU CAN GET VERY ISOLATED
1197
00:37:54,855 --> 00:37:56,087
YOU CAN GET VERY ISOLATED
POPULATIONS IF YOU HAVE
1198
00:37:56,089 --> 00:37:56,988
POPULATIONS IF YOU HAVE
MOUNTAINS BETWEEN THEM,
1199
00:37:56,990 --> 00:37:57,989
MOUNTAINS BETWEEN THEM,
EVEN IF THEY JUST LIVE
1200
00:37:57,991 --> 00:37:59,291
EVEN IF THEY JUST LIVE
A FEW MILES APART.
1201
00:37:59,293 --> 00:38:00,826
A FEW MILES APART.
BUT WATER IS JUST NEVER
1202
00:38:00,828 --> 00:38:01,693
BUT WATER IS JUST NEVER
A BARRIER.
1203
00:38:01,695 --> 00:38:02,694
A BARRIER.
EVEN AN OCEAN IS MORE LIKE
1204
00:38:02,696 --> 00:38:05,430
EVEN AN OCEAN IS MORE LIKE
A HIGHWAY THAN A BARRIER.
1205
00:38:05,432 --> 00:38:06,298
A HIGHWAY THAN A BARRIER.
>> narrator: AND THERE WAS
1206
00:38:06,300 --> 00:38:07,766
>> narrator: AND THERE WAS
ALWAYS ONE SUREFIRE WAY
1207
00:38:07,768 --> 00:38:08,767
ALWAYS ONE SUREFIRE WAY
FOR THESE EARLY MARINERS
1208
00:38:08,769 --> 00:38:10,602
FOR THESE EARLY MARINERS
TO FIND LAND:
1209
00:38:10,604 --> 00:38:12,571
TO FIND LAND:
JUST FOLLOW THE BIRDS.
1210
00:38:12,573 --> 00:38:35,126
[seagulls cawing]
>> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT
1211
00:38:35,128 --> 00:38:37,229
>> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT
WE RECOGNIZE THAT SOME OF THESE
1212
00:38:37,231 --> 00:38:38,897
WE RECOGNIZE THAT SOME OF THESE
PRECONTACT PEOPLE HAD
1213
00:38:38,899 --> 00:38:41,466
PRECONTACT PEOPLE HAD
TREMENDOUS CAPABILITIES.
1214
00:38:41,468 --> 00:38:42,467
TREMENDOUS CAPABILITIES.
>> narrator: EVEN IF THE
1215
00:38:42,469 --> 00:38:43,702
>> narrator: EVEN IF THE
POLYNESIANS DIDN'T FIND
1216
00:38:43,704 --> 00:38:46,571
POLYNESIANS DIDN'T FIND
NORTH AMERICA IN 1000 A.D.,
1217
00:38:46,573 --> 00:38:48,640
NORTH AMERICA IN 1000 A.D.,
SOMEONE ELSE DID.
1218
00:38:48,642 --> 00:38:49,841
SOMEONE ELSE DID.
A SETTLEMENT IN NEWFOUNDLAND
1219
00:38:49,843 --> 00:38:51,743
A SETTLEMENT IN NEWFOUNDLAND
PROVES THAT'S WHEN THE VIKINGS
1220
00:38:51,745 --> 00:38:54,279
PROVES THAT'S WHEN THE VIKINGS
MADE IT TO CANADA, BUT DID THEY
1221
00:38:54,281 --> 00:38:56,414
MADE IT TO CANADA, BUT DID THEY
REACH THE UNITED STATES?
1222
00:38:56,416 --> 00:38:58,183
REACH THE UNITED STATES?
AND WAS THE U.S. ITSELF
1223
00:38:58,185 --> 00:38:59,751
AND WAS THE U.S. ITSELF
ALREADY THE NEW HOMELAND
1224
00:38:59,753 --> 00:39:01,486
ALREADY THE NEW HOMELAND
FOR ANCIENT ISRAELITES
1225
00:39:01,488 --> 00:39:03,421
FOR ANCIENT ISRAELITES
WHO REALLY DISCOVERED AMERICA
1226
00:39:03,423 --> 00:39:05,624
WHO REALLY DISCOVERED AMERICA
CENTURIES BEFORE?
1227
00:39:05,626 --> 00:39:11,896
>> narrator: 1000 A.D. TURNS OUT
TO BE A VERY IMPORTANT YEAR
1228
00:39:11,898 --> 00:39:14,099
TO BE A VERY IMPORTANT YEAR
FOR PRE-COLUMBIAN CONTACT.
1229
00:39:14,101 --> 00:39:15,367
FOR PRE-COLUMBIAN CONTACT.
THE POLYNESIANS MAY HAVE
1230
00:39:15,369 --> 00:39:16,901
THE POLYNESIANS MAY HAVE
REACHED AMERICA,
1231
00:39:16,903 --> 00:39:21,106
REACHED AMERICA,
BUT THE NORSE DEFINITELY DID.
1232
00:39:21,108 --> 00:39:24,609
BUT THE NORSE DEFINITELY DID.
SCANDINAVIA, 1000 A.D.,
1233
00:39:24,611 --> 00:39:29,247
SCANDINAVIA, 1000 A.D.,
STILL 492 YEARS BEFORE COLUMBUS.
1234
00:39:29,249 --> 00:39:30,915
STILL 492 YEARS BEFORE COLUMBUS.
THE VIKINGS WERE EXPLORING
1235
00:39:30,917 --> 00:39:32,384
THE VIKINGS WERE EXPLORING
THE NORTH ATLANTIC.
1236
00:39:32,386 --> 00:39:34,285
THE NORTH ATLANTIC.
IT WAS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME
1237
00:39:34,287 --> 00:39:36,354
IT WAS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME
BEFORE ONE OF THEM SAILED
1238
00:39:36,356 --> 00:39:41,926
BEFORE ONE OF THEM SAILED
ALL THE WAY TO NORTH AMERICA.
1239
00:39:41,928 --> 00:39:43,294
ALL THE WAY TO NORTH AMERICA.
>> ACCORDING TO THE SAGAS,
1240
00:39:43,296 --> 00:39:45,030
>> ACCORDING TO THE SAGAS,
LEIF ERIKSSON IS THE ONE WHO
1241
00:39:45,032 --> 00:39:46,965
LEIF ERIKSSON IS THE ONE WHO
TRAVELED FROM GREENLAND OVER
1242
00:39:46,967 --> 00:39:48,867
TRAVELED FROM GREENLAND OVER
TO THE NEW WORLD TO EXPLORE
1243
00:39:48,869 --> 00:39:51,136
TO THE NEW WORLD TO EXPLORE
THE NEW LAND.
1244
00:39:51,138 --> 00:39:52,237
THE NEW LAND.
>> narrator: LEIF ERIKSSON WAS
1245
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,172
>> narrator: LEIF ERIKSSON WAS
THE SON OF ERIK THE RED,
1246
00:39:54,174 --> 00:39:55,240
THE SON OF ERIK THE RED,
WHO STARTED THE FIRST
1247
00:39:55,242 --> 00:39:57,509
WHO STARTED THE FIRST
NORSE SETTLEMENT IN GREENLAND.
1248
00:39:57,511 --> 00:39:59,344
NORSE SETTLEMENT IN GREENLAND.
A VOYAGER LIKE HIS FATHER,
1249
00:39:59,346 --> 00:40:01,146
A VOYAGER LIKE HIS FATHER,
LEIF WAS INTRIGUED WHEN ANOTHER
1250
00:40:01,148 --> 00:40:02,947
LEIF WAS INTRIGUED WHEN ANOTHER
VIKING TOLD HIM THERE WAS LAND
1251
00:40:02,949 --> 00:40:04,416
VIKING TOLD HIM THERE WAS LAND
WEST OF GREENLAND,
1252
00:40:04,418 --> 00:40:06,151
WEST OF GREENLAND,
LAND GLIMPSED FROM AFAR
1253
00:40:06,153 --> 00:40:08,319
LAND GLIMPSED FROM AFAR
BUT NEVER EXPLORED.
1254
00:40:08,321 --> 00:40:09,421
BUT NEVER EXPLORED.
LEIF QUICKLY GATHERED
1255
00:40:09,423 --> 00:40:11,689
LEIF QUICKLY GATHERED
A GROUP OF 35 MEN AND WOMEN
1256
00:40:11,691 --> 00:40:13,491
A GROUP OF 35 MEN AND WOMEN
AND SET SAIL AFTER BUYING
1257
00:40:13,493 --> 00:40:15,460
AND SET SAIL AFTER BUYING
THE VIKING SHIP OWNED BY THE MAN
1258
00:40:15,462 --> 00:40:17,896
THE VIKING SHIP OWNED BY THE MAN
WHO TOLD HIM THE TALE.
1259
00:40:17,898 --> 00:40:19,197
WHO TOLD HIM THE TALE.
>> VIKING SHIPS WERE BUILT
1260
00:40:19,199 --> 00:40:20,632
>> VIKING SHIPS WERE BUILT
LIKE A STRONG ROWBOAT,
1261
00:40:20,634 --> 00:40:22,067
LIKE A STRONG ROWBOAT,
CLINKER BUILT, THAT IS,
1262
00:40:22,069 --> 00:40:23,168
CLINKER BUILT, THAT IS,
WITH PLANKS OVERLAPPING
1263
00:40:23,170 --> 00:40:24,803
WITH PLANKS OVERLAPPING
EACH OTHER AND PINNED OR NAILED
1264
00:40:24,805 --> 00:40:26,271
EACH OTHER AND PINNED OR NAILED
TOGETHER.
1265
00:40:26,273 --> 00:40:28,339
TOGETHER.
THAT GIVES A BOAT A GREAT DEAL
1266
00:40:28,341 --> 00:40:29,808
THAT GIVES A BOAT A GREAT DEAL
OF STRENGTH.
1267
00:40:29,810 --> 00:40:31,009
OF STRENGTH.
>> narrator: CALLED KNAARS,
1268
00:40:31,011 --> 00:40:32,177
>> narrator: CALLED KNAARS,THESE SHIPS WERE OVER
1269
00:40:32,179 --> 00:40:33,978
THESE SHIPS WERE OVER50 FEET LONG AND COULD CARRY
1270
00:40:33,980 --> 00:40:36,414
50 FEET LONG AND COULD CARRYOVER 20 TONS OF CARGO.
1271
00:40:36,416 --> 00:40:38,016
OVER 20 TONS OF CARGO.DEPENDING ON THE LENGTH,
1272
00:40:38,018 --> 00:40:39,184
DEPENDING ON THE LENGTH,KNAARS COULD REACH A SPEED
1273
00:40:39,186 --> 00:40:41,486
KNAARS COULD REACH A SPEED
OF ABOUT 13 KNOTS.
1274
00:40:41,488 --> 00:40:43,621
OF ABOUT 13 KNOTS.
LEIF'S PARTY OF 35 LIKELY HAD
1275
00:40:43,623 --> 00:40:45,223
LEIF'S PARTY OF 35 LIKELY HAD
A RELATIVELY EASY TIME MAKING
1276
00:40:45,225 --> 00:40:47,292
A RELATIVELY EASY TIME MAKING
A JOURNEY TO AMERICA FOLLOWING
1277
00:40:47,294 --> 00:40:48,593
A JOURNEY TO AMERICA FOLLOWING
SUBPOLAR CURRENTS IN
1278
00:40:48,595 --> 00:40:51,196
SUBPOLAR CURRENTS IN
THE NORTH ATLANTIC.
1279
00:40:51,198 --> 00:40:52,764
THE NORTH ATLANTIC.
>> ALL THAT YOU NEED TO DO
1280
00:40:52,766 --> 00:40:54,866
>> ALL THAT YOU NEED TO DO
IS JUST TO CROSS FROM EUROPE
1281
00:40:54,868 --> 00:40:56,768
IS JUST TO CROSS FROM EUROPE
TO GREENLAND, AND THEN
1282
00:40:56,770 --> 00:40:59,237
TO GREENLAND, AND THEN
YOU CAN FOLLOW THE COAST.
1283
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,206
YOU CAN FOLLOW THE COAST.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE AROUND
1284
00:41:01,208 --> 00:41:05,210
I THINK THAT WOULD BE AROUND
250 DAYS.
1285
00:41:05,212 --> 00:41:06,211
250 DAYS.
>> narrator: THIS IS THE VIKING
1286
00:41:06,213 --> 00:41:07,712
>> narrator: THIS IS THE VIKING
SETTLEMENT IN NEWFOUNDLAND
1287
00:41:07,714 --> 00:41:10,215
SETTLEMENT IN NEWFOUNDLAND
LEIF GETS CREDIT FOR FOUNDING.
1288
00:41:10,217 --> 00:41:11,549
LEIF GETS CREDIT FOR FOUNDING.
IT'S CALLED L'ANSE AUX MEADOWS
1289
00:41:11,551 --> 00:41:12,784
IT'S CALLED L'ANSE AUX MEADOWS
AND IS DATED TO AROUND
1290
00:41:12,786 --> 00:41:14,786
AND IS DATED TO AROUND
1000 A.D.
1291
00:41:14,788 --> 00:41:16,688
1000 A.D.
THE SITE IS UNDISPUTED PROOF
1292
00:41:16,690 --> 00:41:17,689
THE SITE IS UNDISPUTED PROOF
THE VIKINGS MADE IT
1293
00:41:17,691 --> 00:41:19,791
THE VIKINGS MADE IT
TO NORTH AMERICA.
1294
00:41:19,793 --> 00:41:21,125
TO NORTH AMERICA.
BUT ACCORDING TO THE NORSE
1295
00:41:21,127 --> 00:41:22,527
BUT ACCORDING TO THE NORSE
SAGAS, THEY EVENTUALLY WENT
1296
00:41:22,529 --> 00:41:24,295
SAGAS, THEY EVENTUALLY WENT
FURTHER THAN THAT TO A LAND
1297
00:41:24,297 --> 00:41:26,064
FURTHER THAN THAT TO A LAND
CALLED VINLAND.
1298
00:41:26,066 --> 00:41:26,998
CALLED VINLAND.
>> SO L'ANSE AUX MEADOWS IS
1299
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,333
>> SO L'ANSE AUX MEADOWS IS
ACTUALLY A--YOU COULD SEE IT
1300
00:41:28,335 --> 00:41:30,535
ACTUALLY A--YOU COULD SEE IT
AS A GATEWAY INTO WHAT WOULD
1301
00:41:30,537 --> 00:41:33,238
AS A GATEWAY INTO WHAT WOULD
BE VINLAND.
1302
00:41:33,240 --> 00:41:34,072
BE VINLAND.
>> narrator: "VINLAND" MEANS
1303
00:41:34,074 --> 00:41:35,974
>> narrator: "VINLAND" MEANS
EITHER LAND OF GRAPES
1304
00:41:35,976 --> 00:41:37,308
EITHER LAND OF GRAPES
OR LAND OF PASTURES,
1305
00:41:37,310 --> 00:41:38,509
OR LAND OF PASTURES,
NEITHER OF WHICH ACCURATELY
1306
00:41:38,511 --> 00:41:41,145
NEITHER OF WHICH ACCURATELY
DESCRIBE L'ANSE AUX MEADOWS.
1307
00:41:41,147 --> 00:41:43,381
DESCRIBE L'ANSE AUX MEADOWS.
THAT IMPLIES A LARGER SETTLEMENT
1308
00:41:43,383 --> 00:41:44,749
THAT IMPLIES A LARGER SETTLEMENT
THAT HAS NEVER BEEN PINPOINTED
1309
00:41:44,751 --> 00:41:46,551
THAT HAS NEVER BEEN PINPOINTED
LIES ELSEWHERE, WHICH WOULD
1310
00:41:46,553 --> 00:41:48,419
LIES ELSEWHERE, WHICH WOULD
EXPLAIN A CURIOUS FINDING
1311
00:41:48,421 --> 00:41:50,255
EXPLAIN A CURIOUS FINDING
AT THE SETTLEMENT SITE.
1312
00:41:50,257 --> 00:41:52,357
AT THE SETTLEMENT SITE.
>> BUTTERNUT HUSKS AND BUTTERNUT
1313
00:41:52,359 --> 00:41:53,658
>> BUTTERNUT HUSKS AND BUTTERNUT
WOOD WAS FOUND, AND THAT'S NOT
1314
00:41:53,660 --> 00:41:55,560
WOOD WAS FOUND, AND THAT'S NOT
SOMETHING YOU FIND NATURALLY
1315
00:41:55,562 --> 00:41:56,728
SOMETHING YOU FIND NATURALLY
AT L'ANSE AUX MEADOWS
1316
00:41:56,730 --> 00:41:59,063
AT L'ANSE AUX MEADOWS
OR IN THIS AREA.
1317
00:41:59,065 --> 00:42:00,698
OR IN THIS AREA.
>> narrator: BUTTERNUT IS NATIVE
1318
00:42:00,700 --> 00:42:03,034
>> narrator: BUTTERNUT IS NATIVE
TO SOUTHEASTERN CANADA AND THE
1319
00:42:03,036 --> 00:42:05,536
TO SOUTHEASTERN CANADA AND THE
EAST COAST OF THE UNITED STATES.
1320
00:42:05,538 --> 00:42:06,971
EAST COAST OF THE UNITED STATES.
IT'S ON THE EAST COAST THAT
1321
00:42:06,973 --> 00:42:09,307
IT'S ON THE EAST COAST THAT
A CRITICAL CLUE TO WHERE VINLAND
1322
00:42:09,309 --> 00:42:14,112
A CRITICAL CLUE TO WHERE VINLAND
MIGHT BE TURNED UP IN 1957.
1323
00:42:14,114 --> 00:42:16,014
MIGHT BE TURNED UP IN 1957.
>> THE ONLY EVIDENCE WE HAVE
1324
00:42:16,016 --> 00:42:17,749
>> THE ONLY EVIDENCE WE HAVE
THAT THE VIKINGS MADE IT TO
1325
00:42:17,751 --> 00:42:19,917
THAT THE VIKINGS MADE IT TO
THE UNITED STATES IS A NORWEGIAN
1326
00:42:19,919 --> 00:42:21,953
THE UNITED STATES IS A NORWEGIAN
SILVER PENNY, A SMALL COIN,
1327
00:42:21,955 --> 00:42:23,788
SILVER PENNY, A SMALL COIN,
FOUND IN BROOKLIN, MAINE,
1328
00:42:23,790 --> 00:42:25,390
FOUND IN BROOKLIN, MAINE,
AND IT'S DATED TO THE REIGN
1329
00:42:25,392 --> 00:42:27,725
AND IT'S DATED TO THE REIGN
OF KING OLAF KYRRE, WHICH IS IN
1330
00:42:27,727 --> 00:42:28,626
OF KING OLAF KYRRE, WHICH IS IN
THE LATER PART OF THE
1331
00:42:28,628 --> 00:42:31,095
THE LATER PART OF THE
11TH CENTURY.
1332
00:42:31,097 --> 00:42:32,063
11TH CENTURY.
>> WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS COIN
1333
00:42:32,065 --> 00:42:34,632
>> WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS COIN
WAS FOUND, CONCEIVABLY PLANTED.
1334
00:42:34,634 --> 00:42:36,301
WAS FOUND, CONCEIVABLY PLANTED.
OUR BEST GUESS IS THAT IT WASN'T
1335
00:42:36,303 --> 00:42:37,368
OUR BEST GUESS IS THAT IT WASN'T
PLANTED, BUT IT COULD HAVE BEEN.
1336
00:42:37,370 --> 00:42:39,437
PLANTED, BUT IT COULD HAVE BEEN.
BUT WE AT LEAST ACKNOWLEDGE
1337
00:42:39,439 --> 00:42:40,972
BUT WE AT LEAST ACKNOWLEDGE
THAT IT IS AN HONEST-TO-GOD
1338
00:42:40,974 --> 00:42:42,373
THAT IT IS AN HONEST-TO-GOD
AUTHENTIC NORSE ARTIFACT FROM
1339
00:42:42,375 --> 00:42:43,508
AUTHENTIC NORSE ARTIFACT FROM
AN ARCHAEOLOGICAL CONTEXT
1340
00:42:43,510 --> 00:42:46,577
AN ARCHAEOLOGICAL CONTEXT
ON THE MAINE COAST.
1341
00:42:46,579 --> 00:42:47,612
ON THE MAINE COAST.
>> WE DON'T KNOW IF THE UNITED
1342
00:42:47,614 --> 00:42:48,913
>> WE DON'T KNOW IF THE UNITED
STATES COULD BE VINLAND.
1343
00:42:48,915 --> 00:42:50,548
STATES COULD BE VINLAND.
WE KNOW THAT L'ANSE AUX MEADOWS
1344
00:42:50,550 --> 00:42:51,749
WE KNOW THAT L'ANSE AUX MEADOWS
WAS A BASE CAMP, AND WE KNOW
1345
00:42:51,751 --> 00:42:54,085
WAS A BASE CAMP, AND WE KNOW
THAT THE NORSE WENT INLAND
1346
00:42:54,087 --> 00:42:56,921
THAT THE NORSE WENT INLAND
SOMEWHERE.
1347
00:42:56,923 --> 00:42:58,122
SOMEWHERE.
>> narrator: THE EAST COAST
1348
00:42:58,124 --> 00:42:59,624
>> narrator: THE EAST COAST
IS HOME TO SOME OTHER ARTIFACTS
1349
00:42:59,626 --> 00:43:01,859
IS HOME TO SOME OTHER ARTIFACTS
THOUGHT TO BE NORSE.
1350
00:43:01,861 --> 00:43:03,328
THOUGHT TO BE NORSE.
THESE STONES CARVED WITH SOME
1351
00:43:03,330 --> 00:43:04,629
THESE STONES CARVED WITH SOME
RUNES FROM AN EARLY SCANDINAVIAN
1352
00:43:04,631 --> 00:43:06,397
RUNES FROM AN EARLY SCANDINAVIAN
ALPHABET CALLED THE FUTHARK
1353
00:43:06,399 --> 00:43:08,132
ALPHABET CALLED THE FUTHARK
WERE FOUND PARTIALLY BURIED
1354
00:43:08,134 --> 00:43:09,834
WERE FOUND PARTIALLY BURIED
NEAR SPIRIT POND IN MAINE,
1355
00:43:09,836 --> 00:43:11,636
NEAR SPIRIT POND IN MAINE,
SOME 150 MILES FROM WHERE
1356
00:43:11,638 --> 00:43:13,905
SOME 150 MILES FROM WHERE
THE PENNY WAS FOUND.
1357
00:43:13,907 --> 00:43:15,506
THE PENNY WAS FOUND.
WHILE ACADEMICS AGREE THE PENNY
1358
00:43:15,508 --> 00:43:18,009
WHILE ACADEMICS AGREE THE PENNY
IS VIKING AGE AND GENUINE,
1359
00:43:18,011 --> 00:43:19,744
IS VIKING AGE AND GENUINE,
THESE STONES ARE WIDELY REGARDED
1360
00:43:19,746 --> 00:43:21,379
THESE STONES ARE WIDELY REGARDED
AS FRAUDS BECAUSE THEY DON'T
1361
00:43:21,381 --> 00:43:22,513
AS FRAUDS BECAUSE THEY DON'T
RESEMBLE TRADITIONAL
1362
00:43:22,515 --> 00:43:23,781
RESEMBLE TRADITIONAL
RUNESTONES FOUND THROUGHOUT
1363
00:43:23,783 --> 00:43:25,216
RUNESTONES FOUND THROUGHOUT
SCANDINAVIA.
1364
00:43:25,218 --> 00:43:26,350
SCANDINAVIA.
>> RUNIC CARVINGS ARE GENERALLY
1365
00:43:26,352 --> 00:43:27,518
>> RUNIC CARVINGS ARE GENERALLY
ON PROMINENT STONES WHERE
1366
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:28,786
ON PROMINENT STONES WHERE
PEOPLE CAN SEE THEM.
1367
00:43:28,788 --> 00:43:30,388
PEOPLE CAN SEE THEM.
THEY ARE NOT OBSCURED BY BEING
1368
00:43:30,390 --> 00:43:31,522
THEY ARE NOT OBSCURED BY BEING
ON SMALL STONES AND BURIED
1369
00:43:31,524 --> 00:43:32,523
ON SMALL STONES AND BURIED
IN THE GROUND.
1370
00:43:32,525 --> 00:43:33,858
IN THE GROUND.
SO THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT
1371
00:43:33,860 --> 00:43:35,927
SO THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT
WHOEVER CREATED THESE STONES
1372
00:43:35,929 --> 00:43:38,930
WHOEVER CREATED THESE STONES
WAS TRYING TO PUT ONE OVER
1373
00:43:38,932 --> 00:43:41,799
WAS TRYING TO PUT ONE OVER
ON SOMEONE.
1374
00:43:41,801 --> 00:43:42,934
ON SOMEONE.
>> narrator: OTHER STONES WITH
1375
00:43:42,936 --> 00:43:44,202
>> narrator: OTHER STONES WITH
RUNIC INSCRIPTIONS HAVE TURNED
1376
00:43:44,204 --> 00:43:45,203
RUNIC INSCRIPTIONS HAVE TURNED
UP EVEN FURTHER INTO THE
1377
00:43:45,205 --> 00:43:46,671
UP EVEN FURTHER INTO THE
UNITED STATES.
1378
00:43:46,673 --> 00:43:47,939
UNITED STATES.
THE MOST FAMOUS IS
1379
00:43:47,941 --> 00:43:50,108
THE MOST FAMOUS IS
THE KENSINGTON RUNESTONE,
1380
00:43:50,110 --> 00:43:51,375
THE KENSINGTON RUNESTONE,
UNEARTHED BY A FARMER
1381
00:43:51,377 --> 00:43:54,979
UNEARTHED BY A FARMER
IN MINNESOTA IN 1898.
1382
00:43:54,981 --> 00:43:57,515
IN MINNESOTA IN 1898.
IT DETAILS A VOYAGE BY 8 GOTHS
1383
00:43:57,517 --> 00:43:59,450
IT DETAILS A VOYAGE BY 8 GOTHS
AND 22 NORWEGIANS ON AN
1384
00:43:59,452 --> 00:44:01,152
AND 22 NORWEGIANS ON AN
ACQUISITION JOURNEY FAR TO
1385
00:44:01,154 --> 00:44:02,687
ACQUISITION JOURNEY FAR TO
THE WEST OF VINLAND
1386
00:44:02,689 --> 00:44:06,224
THE WEST OF VINLAND
IN THE YEAR 1362.
1387
00:44:06,226 --> 00:44:08,126
IN THE YEAR 1362.
IT ALSO GRAPHICALLY DEPICTS
1388
00:44:08,128 --> 00:44:09,861
IT ALSO GRAPHICALLY DEPICTS
THE DEMISE OF TEN OF THE MEN,
1389
00:44:09,863 --> 00:44:11,395
THE DEMISE OF TEN OF THE MEN,
FOUND "RED WITH BLOOD
1390
00:44:11,397 --> 00:44:13,898
FOUND "RED WITH BLOOD
AND DEATH."
1391
00:44:13,900 --> 00:44:15,233
AND DEATH."
>> THE PROBLEMS MOST SCHOLARS
1392
00:44:15,235 --> 00:44:16,467
>> THE PROBLEMS MOST SCHOLARS
HAVE WITH THE KENSINGTON
1393
00:44:16,469 --> 00:44:17,869
HAVE WITH THE KENSINGTON
RUNESTONE IS THAT THE RUNES
1394
00:44:17,871 --> 00:44:19,704
RUNESTONE IS THAT THE RUNES
ON IT AND THE STONE ITSELF
1395
00:44:19,706 --> 00:44:21,005
ON IT AND THE STONE ITSELF
AND THE INSCRIPTION,
1396
00:44:21,007 --> 00:44:22,206
AND THE INSCRIPTION,
THE FORMULA, THE MESSAGE,
1397
00:44:22,208 --> 00:44:24,008
THE FORMULA, THE MESSAGE,
IS NOTHING LIKE A RUNESTONE
1398
00:44:24,010 --> 00:44:25,810
IS NOTHING LIKE A RUNESTONE
WOULD BE IN SCANDINAVIA DURING
1399
00:44:25,812 --> 00:44:28,646
WOULD BE IN SCANDINAVIA DURING
THIS TIME PERIOD.
1400
00:44:28,648 --> 00:44:29,647
THIS TIME PERIOD.
>> narrator: ANOTHER PROBLEM:
1401
00:44:29,649 --> 00:44:30,748
>> narrator: ANOTHER PROBLEM:
THERE'S NO TRACE OF THE
1402
00:44:30,750 --> 00:44:32,250
THERE'S NO TRACE OF THE
TEN DEAD VOYAGERS REFERENCED
1403
00:44:32,252 --> 00:44:33,751
TEN DEAD VOYAGERS REFERENCED
ON THE STONE.
1404
00:44:33,753 --> 00:44:35,419
ON THE STONE.
ARCHAEOLOGISTS SPENT TIME
1405
00:44:35,421 --> 00:44:36,420
ARCHAEOLOGISTS SPENT TIME
LOOKING FOR THEIR REMAINS
1406
00:44:36,422 --> 00:44:38,256
LOOKING FOR THEIR REMAINS
IN THE 1980s.
1407
00:44:38,258 --> 00:44:39,190
IN THE 1980s.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
1408
00:44:39,192 --> 00:44:40,291
>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
BOTHERED US WHEN WE WERE DOING
1409
00:44:40,293 --> 00:44:41,926
BOTHERED US WHEN WE WERE DOING
OUR ARCHAEOLOGICAL RESEARCH
1410
00:44:41,928 --> 00:44:42,860
OUR ARCHAEOLOGICAL RESEARCH
WAS THAT AS WE LOOKED
1411
00:44:42,862 --> 00:44:44,128
WAS THAT AS WE LOOKED
ALL AROUND, WE COULDN'T FIND
1412
00:44:44,130 --> 00:44:46,531
ALL AROUND, WE COULDN'T FIND
ANY EVIDENCE OF BURIALS.
1413
00:44:46,533 --> 00:44:47,698
ANY EVIDENCE OF BURIALS.
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN INTERESTING
1414
00:44:47,700 --> 00:44:49,300
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN INTERESTING
TO HAVE FOUND SOME EVIDENCE
1415
00:44:49,302 --> 00:44:50,268
TO HAVE FOUND SOME EVIDENCE
OF GRAVES OR TO HAVE HEARD
1416
00:44:50,270 --> 00:44:51,435
OF GRAVES OR TO HAVE HEARD
SOMEBODY IN THE PAST HAVING
1417
00:44:51,437 --> 00:44:53,738
SOMEBODY IN THE PAST HAVING
TALKED ABOUT GRAVES.
1418
00:44:53,740 --> 00:44:55,072
TALKED ABOUT GRAVES.
THE ABSENCE OF EVIDENCE
1419
00:44:55,074 --> 00:44:56,474
THE ABSENCE OF EVIDENCE
ISN'T NECESSARILY A NEGATIVE.
1420
00:44:56,476 --> 00:44:57,441
ISN'T NECESSARILY A NEGATIVE.
IT JUST MEANS WE DIDN'T
1421
00:44:57,443 --> 00:44:59,744
IT JUST MEANS WE DIDN'T
FIND IT.
1422
00:44:59,746 --> 00:45:04,916
>> narrator: GEOLOGIST
SCOTT WOLTER SAYS HE DID
1423
00:45:04,918 --> 00:45:06,083
SCOTT WOLTER SAYS HE DID
FIND PROOF THE STONE
1424
00:45:06,085 --> 00:45:09,287
FIND PROOF THE STONE
IS NO 19TH-CENTURY HOAX.
1425
00:45:09,289 --> 00:45:11,522
IS NO 19TH-CENTURY HOAX.
IN 2000, HE ANALYZED
1426
00:45:11,524 --> 00:45:12,823
IN 2000, HE ANALYZED
THE WEATHERING OF MINERALS
1427
00:45:12,825 --> 00:45:14,525
THE WEATHERING OF MINERALS
IN THE STONE'S INSCRIPTION
1428
00:45:14,527 --> 00:45:17,662
IN THE STONE'S INSCRIPTION
TO DETERMINE WHEN IT WAS CARVED.
1429
00:45:17,664 --> 00:45:19,530
TO DETERMINE WHEN IT WAS CARVED.
>> THE WEATHERING STUDY PROVES
1430
00:45:19,532 --> 00:45:21,232
>> THE WEATHERING STUDY PROVES
THAT WHOEVER CARVED THIS
1431
00:45:21,234 --> 00:45:22,466
THAT WHOEVER CARVED THIS
DID IT AT LEAST 200 YEARS
1432
00:45:22,468 --> 00:45:24,468
DID IT AT LEAST 200 YEARS
PRIOR TO WHEN IT WAS PULLED OUT
1433
00:45:24,470 --> 00:45:26,637
PRIOR TO WHEN IT WAS PULLED OUT
OF THE GROUND IN 1898,
1434
00:45:26,639 --> 00:45:28,472
OF THE GROUND IN 1898,
WHICH MEANS THAT IT CAN'T BE
1435
00:45:28,474 --> 00:45:29,974
WHICH MEANS THAT IT CAN'T BE
THE LATE 19TH-CENTURY HOAX
1436
00:45:29,976 --> 00:45:30,942
THE LATE 19TH-CENTURY HOAX
THAT EVERYBODY CLAIMED.
1437
00:45:30,944 --> 00:45:34,078
THAT EVERYBODY CLAIMED.
THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
1438
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:34,946
THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
>> narrator: REGARDLESS
1439
00:45:34,948 --> 00:45:36,714
>> narrator: REGARDLESS
OF WHEN THE STONE WAS CARVED,
1440
00:45:36,716 --> 00:45:39,016
OF WHEN THE STONE WAS CARVED,
MOST ACADEMICS QUESTION
1441
00:45:39,018 --> 00:45:40,384
MOST ACADEMICS QUESTION
NORSE VOYAGERS' ABILITY TO
1442
00:45:40,386 --> 00:45:43,487
NORSE VOYAGERS' ABILITY TO
MAKE IT SO FAR INLAND.
1443
00:45:43,489 --> 00:45:45,189
MAKE IT SO FAR INLAND.
FROM THE GULF OF SAINT LAWRENCE
1444
00:45:45,191 --> 00:45:46,357
FROM THE GULF OF SAINT LAWRENCE
WHERE THE L'ANSE AUX MEADOWS
1445
00:45:46,359 --> 00:45:47,792
WHERE THE L'ANSE AUX MEADOWS
SITE IS FOUND, ONE ROUTE WOULD
1446
00:45:47,794 --> 00:45:49,293
SITE IS FOUND, ONE ROUTE WOULD
HAVE REQUIRED THEM TO PORTAGE
1447
00:45:49,295 --> 00:45:50,728
HAVE REQUIRED THEM TO PORTAGE
OVER THE LA CHINE RAPIDS
1448
00:45:50,730 --> 00:45:52,763
OVER THE LA CHINE RAPIDS
NEAR MONTREAL AND PORTAGE OVER
1449
00:45:52,765 --> 00:45:54,498
NEAR MONTREAL AND PORTAGE OVER
NIAGARA FALLS BEFORE
1450
00:45:54,500 --> 00:45:56,200
NIAGARA FALLS BEFORE
MAKING IT INTO THE GREAT LAKES
1451
00:45:56,202 --> 00:45:57,501
MAKING IT INTO THE GREAT LAKES
AND ON TO KENSINGTON
1452
00:45:57,503 --> 00:46:00,137
AND ON TO KENSINGTON
VIA A SERIES OF RIVERS.
1453
00:46:00,139 --> 00:46:01,205
VIA A SERIES OF RIVERS.
>> CERTAINLY SOME TYPES OF
1454
00:46:01,207 --> 00:46:03,641
>> CERTAINLY SOME TYPES OF
VIKING SHIPS WERE SMALL ENOUGH
1455
00:46:03,643 --> 00:46:04,642
VIKING SHIPS WERE SMALL ENOUGH
THAT A GROUP OF MEN COULD LIFT
1456
00:46:04,644 --> 00:46:06,744
THAT A GROUP OF MEN COULD LIFT
THEM AND CARRY THEM OVERLAND
1457
00:46:06,746 --> 00:46:07,678
THEM AND CARRY THEM OVERLAND
IN A PORTAGE.
1458
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,313
IN A PORTAGE.
IF THE VIKINGS CAME OVER
1459
00:46:09,315 --> 00:46:10,381
IF THE VIKINGS CAME OVER
IN A LARGE ENOUGH FORCE,
1460
00:46:10,383 --> 00:46:11,749
IN A LARGE ENOUGH FORCE,
TOWING SMALLER VESSELS BEHIND
1461
00:46:11,751 --> 00:46:12,850
TOWING SMALLER VESSELS BEHIND
THEIR LARGER SHIPS,
1462
00:46:12,852 --> 00:46:14,118
THEIR LARGER SHIPS,
IT'S ENTIRELY POSSIBLE
1463
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:15,252
IT'S ENTIRELY POSSIBLE
THAT THEY COULD HAVE MOVED
1464
00:46:15,254 --> 00:46:16,854
THAT THEY COULD HAVE MOVED
AND PENETRATED FURTHER
1465
00:46:16,856 --> 00:46:18,522
AND PENETRATED FURTHER
INTO THE AMERICAS.
1466
00:46:18,524 --> 00:46:19,824
INTO THE AMERICAS.
THE QUESTION IS,
1467
00:46:19,826 --> 00:46:22,126
THE QUESTION IS,
WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE?
1468
00:46:22,128 --> 00:46:23,160
WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE?
>> narrator: THE SETTLEMENT
1469
00:46:23,162 --> 00:46:24,562
>> narrator: THE SETTLEMENT
IN NEWFOUNDLAND IS PROOF
1470
00:46:24,564 --> 00:46:25,896
IN NEWFOUNDLAND IS PROOF
ON ITS OWN THAT THE VIKINGS
1471
00:46:25,898 --> 00:46:27,531
ON ITS OWN THAT THE VIKINGS
MADE IT TO THE NEW WORLD
1472
00:46:27,533 --> 00:46:30,701
MADE IT TO THE NEW WORLD
BEFORE COLUMBUS, WHETHER OR NOT
1473
00:46:30,703 --> 00:46:32,303
BEFORE COLUMBUS, WHETHER OR NOT
ANY OF THESE RUNESTONES
1474
00:46:32,305 --> 00:46:33,704
ANY OF THESE RUNESTONES
ARE AUTHENTIC OR WHETHER
1475
00:46:33,706 --> 00:46:35,106
ARE AUTHENTIC OR WHETHER
THIS PENNY WAS DROPPED
1476
00:46:35,108 --> 00:46:37,441
THIS PENNY WAS DROPPED
BY A REAL VIKING VOYAGER.
1477
00:46:37,443 --> 00:46:39,377
BY A REAL VIKING VOYAGER.
BUT IT'S POSSIBLE EVEN THE NORSE
1478
00:46:39,379 --> 00:46:40,811
BUT IT'S POSSIBLE EVEN THE NORSE
WEREN'T THE FIRST EUROPEANS
1479
00:46:40,813 --> 00:46:43,047
WEREN'T THE FIRST EUROPEANS
TO FIND AMERICA.
1480
00:46:43,049 --> 00:46:44,548
TO FIND AMERICA.
COULD A MISSIONARY WITH A MOTIVE
1481
00:46:44,550 --> 00:46:46,851
COULD A MISSIONARY WITH A MOTIVE
HAVE BLAZED THE TRAIL 500 YEARS
1482
00:46:46,853 --> 00:46:49,220
HAVE BLAZED THE TRAIL 500 YEARS
EARLIER, FINDING A LAND
1483
00:46:49,222 --> 00:46:51,088
EARLIER, FINDING A LAND
HE CALLED "PARADISE"
1484
00:46:51,090 --> 00:46:53,891
HE CALLED "PARADISE"
AND RETURNING TO TELL THE TALE?
1485
00:46:53,893 --> 00:47:05,352
>> narrator: IN 1492, COLUMBUS
DIDN'T DISCOVER A NEW WORLD.
1486
00:47:05,354 --> 00:47:06,987
DIDN'T DISCOVER A NEW WORLD.
THE POLYNESIANS MIGHT HAVE BEEN
1487
00:47:06,989 --> 00:47:10,991
THE POLYNESIANS MIGHT HAVE BEEN
IN CALIFORNIA IN 1000 A.D.
1488
00:47:10,993 --> 00:47:12,760
IN CALIFORNIA IN 1000 A.D.
THE VIKINGS DEFINITELY MADE IT
1489
00:47:12,762 --> 00:47:15,096
THE VIKINGS DEFINITELY MADE IT
AS FAR AS CANADA, MAYBE AS FAR
1490
00:47:15,098 --> 00:47:16,931
AS FAR AS CANADA, MAYBE AS FAR
AS MAINE, BUT COULD THOSE
1491
00:47:16,933 --> 00:47:18,632
AS MAINE, BUT COULD THOSE
VIKINGS HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING
1492
00:47:18,634 --> 00:47:21,435
VIKINGS HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING
THE IRISH?
1493
00:47:21,437 --> 00:47:24,772
THE IRISH?
IRELAND, 530 A.D.,
1494
00:47:24,774 --> 00:47:28,776
IRELAND, 530 A.D.,
962 YEARS BEFORE COLUMBUS.
1495
00:47:28,778 --> 00:47:30,277
962 YEARS BEFORE COLUMBUS.
ELSEWHERE IN THE WORLD,
1496
00:47:30,279 --> 00:47:31,912
ELSEWHERE IN THE WORLD,
THE ROMAN EMPIRE HAS FALLEN
1497
00:47:31,914 --> 00:47:33,881
THE ROMAN EMPIRE HAS FALLEN
TO GERMANIC TRIBES,
1498
00:47:33,883 --> 00:47:35,049
TO GERMANIC TRIBES,
AND EUROPE IS ENTERING
1499
00:47:35,051 --> 00:47:37,384
AND EUROPE IS ENTERING
THE DARK AGES.
1500
00:47:37,386 --> 00:47:39,453
THE DARK AGES.
IN IRELAND, ATOP A MOUNTAIN
1501
00:47:39,455 --> 00:47:40,788
IN IRELAND, ATOP A MOUNTAIN
ON THE DINGLE PENINSULA,
1502
00:47:40,790 --> 00:47:42,556
ON THE DINGLE PENINSULA,
SAINT BRENDAN THE NAVIGATOR
1503
00:47:42,558 --> 00:47:44,792
SAINT BRENDAN THE NAVIGATOR
HAD A VISION OF PARADISE.
1504
00:47:44,794 --> 00:47:46,460
HAD A VISION OF PARADISE.
LEGEND SAYS HE FOUND IT
1505
00:47:46,462 --> 00:47:51,265
LEGEND SAYS HE FOUND IT
AND THAT IT WAS AMERICA.
1506
00:47:51,267 --> 00:47:52,800
AND THAT IT WAS AMERICA.
>> BRENDAN WAS
1507
00:47:52,802 --> 00:47:54,268
>> BRENDAN WAS
THE QUINTESSENTIAL SAILOR.
1508
00:47:54,270 --> 00:47:56,070
THE QUINTESSENTIAL SAILOR.
HE WAS THE MOST ACCREDITED
1509
00:47:56,072 --> 00:47:57,705
HE WAS THE MOST ACCREDITED
NAVIGATOR, SAILOR,
1510
00:47:57,707 --> 00:48:00,908
NAVIGATOR, SAILOR,
OF MEDIEVAL TIMES.
1511
00:48:00,910 --> 00:48:02,109
OF MEDIEVAL TIMES.
>> narrator: BORN NEAR TRALEE
1512
00:48:02,111 --> 00:48:03,577
>> narrator: BORN NEAR TRALEE
IN COUNTY KERRY, IRELAND,
1513
00:48:03,579 --> 00:48:06,447
IN COUNTY KERRY, IRELAND,
IN 484 A.D., BRENDAN WAS
1514
00:48:06,449 --> 00:48:09,183
IN 484 A.D., BRENDAN WAS
ORDAINED A PRIEST AT AGE 28.
1515
00:48:09,185 --> 00:48:10,484
ORDAINED A PRIEST AT AGE 28.
HE IS SAID TO HAVE SPENT TIME
1516
00:48:10,486 --> 00:48:11,919
HE IS SAID TO HAVE SPENT TIME
SAILING THE NORTH ATLANTIC
1517
00:48:11,921 --> 00:48:13,587
SAILING THE NORTH ATLANTIC
SPREADING CHRISTIANITY.
1518
00:48:13,589 --> 00:48:14,989
SPREADING CHRISTIANITY.
HE'S EVEN SAID TO HAVE BEATEN
1519
00:48:14,991 --> 00:48:16,323
HE'S EVEN SAID TO HAVE BEATEN
THE NORSE TO GREENLAND,
1520
00:48:16,325 --> 00:48:18,092
THE NORSE TO GREENLAND,
WHICH WAS POPULATED AT THE TIME
1521
00:48:18,094 --> 00:48:20,828
WHICH WAS POPULATED AT THE TIME
BY PALEO-ESKIMO WHALE HUNTERS.
1522
00:48:20,830 --> 00:48:22,830
BY PALEO-ESKIMO WHALE HUNTERS.
WHEN SAINT BRENDAN SUPPOSEDLY
1523
00:48:22,832 --> 00:48:24,832
WHEN SAINT BRENDAN SUPPOSEDLY
FOUND AMERICA, HE WAS ALLEGEDLY
1524
00:48:24,834 --> 00:48:26,467
FOUND AMERICA, HE WAS ALLEGEDLY
LOOKING FOR TERRA REPROMISSIONIS
1525
00:48:26,469 --> 00:48:28,636
LOOKING FOR TERRA REPROMISSIONISSANCTORUM, OR THE LAND PROMISED
1526
00:48:28,638 --> 00:48:30,704
SANCTORUM, OR THE LAND PROMISED
TO THE SAINTS.
1527
00:48:30,706 --> 00:48:33,240
TO THE SAINTS.
>> HE ANTICIPATED THAT THERE
1528
00:48:33,242 --> 00:48:34,975
>> HE ANTICIPATED THAT THERE
WAS A WORLD OUTSIDE OF THIS
1529
00:48:34,977 --> 00:48:38,612
WAS A WORLD OUTSIDE OF THIS
ISLAND, AND HENCE ULTIMATELY
1530
00:48:38,614 --> 00:48:40,281
ISLAND, AND HENCE ULTIMATELY
CROSSED THE ATLANTIC TO
1531
00:48:40,283 --> 00:48:42,449
CROSSED THE ATLANTIC TO
AMERICA.
1532
00:48:42,451 --> 00:48:43,450
AMERICA.
>> narrator: THE TALE OF SAINT
1533
00:48:43,452 --> 00:48:45,085
>> narrator: THE TALE OF SAINT
BRENDAN'S VOYAGE IS RECORDED
1534
00:48:45,087 --> 00:48:48,188
BRENDAN'S VOYAGE IS RECORDED
IN A TEXT CALLED THE NAVAGATIO.
1535
00:48:48,190 --> 00:48:49,890
IN A TEXT CALLED THE NAVAGATIO.IT DETAILS HIS JOURNEY WITH
1536
00:48:49,892 --> 00:48:51,258
IT DETAILS HIS JOURNEY WITHA NUMBER OF OTHER MONKS
1537
00:48:51,260 --> 00:48:53,327
A NUMBER OF OTHER MONKSTO A LAND RICH IN FRUIT, FLORA,
1538
00:48:53,329 --> 00:48:55,262
TO A LAND RICH IN FRUIT, FLORA,AND FAUNA HE'D NEVER SEEN
1539
00:48:55,264 --> 00:48:56,764
AND FAUNA HE'D NEVER SEENBEFORE.
1540
00:48:56,766 --> 00:48:58,198
BEFORE.ALONG THE WAY, HE HAD
1541
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,467
ALONG THE WAY, HE HADMANY UNBELIEVABLE ADVENTURES
1542
00:49:00,469 --> 00:49:01,635
MANY UNBELIEVABLE ADVENTURESTHAT MAKE SOME QUESTION
1543
00:49:01,637 --> 00:49:04,138
THAT MAKE SOME QUESTIONTHE LEGITIMACY OF HIS TALE.
1544
00:49:04,140 --> 00:49:05,639
THE LEGITIMACY OF HIS TALE.>> BRENDAN AND HIS MONKS HAD
1545
00:49:05,641 --> 00:49:07,041
>> BRENDAN AND HIS MONKS HADLANDED ON THE BACK OF A HUGE
1546
00:49:07,043 --> 00:49:08,876
LANDED ON THE BACK OF A HUGEFISH, POSSIBLY A WHALE,
1547
00:49:08,878 --> 00:49:10,377
FISH, POSSIBLY A WHALE,AND EVEN ATTEMPTED TO LIGHT
1548
00:49:10,379 --> 00:49:12,379
AND EVEN ATTEMPTED TO LIGHTA FIRE ON HIS BACK, WHICH OF
1549
00:49:12,381 --> 00:49:13,881
A FIRE ON HIS BACK, WHICH OFCOURSE, WOKE THE ANIMAL UP,
1550
00:49:13,883 --> 00:49:16,216
COURSE, WOKE THE ANIMAL UP,IF HE WAS ASLEEP.
1551
00:49:16,218 --> 00:49:17,651
IF HE WAS ASLEEP.>> narrator: MOST MODERN
1552
00:49:17,653 --> 00:49:19,687
>> narrator: MOST MODERNSCHOLARS CONSIDER THENAVAGATIO
1553
00:49:19,689 --> 00:49:21,488
SCHOLARS CONSIDER THENAVAGATIOA LITERARY LEGEND ALONG
1554
00:49:21,490 --> 00:49:24,525
A LITERARY LEGEND ALONGTHE LINES OF WELSH PRINCE MADOC.
1555
00:49:24,527 --> 00:49:25,993
THE LINES OF WELSH PRINCE MADOC.BUT THE DESCRIPTIONS OF THINGS
1556
00:49:25,995 --> 00:49:27,594
BUT THE DESCRIPTIONS OF THINGSLIKE SHEEP WHICH ARE FOUND ON
1557
00:49:27,596 --> 00:49:29,897
LIKE SHEEP WHICH ARE FOUND ONTHE FAROE ISLANDS AND VOLCANOES
1558
00:49:29,899 --> 00:49:31,899
THE FAROE ISLANDS AND VOLCANOESWHICH ARE FOUND ON ICELAND
1559
00:49:31,901 --> 00:49:33,400
WHICH ARE FOUND ON ICELANDHAVE SOME HISTORIANS CONVINCED
1560
00:49:33,402 --> 00:49:35,235
HAVE SOME HISTORIANS CONVINCEDHE MADE IT TO AMERICA
1561
00:49:35,237 --> 00:49:36,904
HE MADE IT TO AMERICAVIA A NORTHERN ATLANTIC ROUTE
1562
00:49:36,906 --> 00:49:39,206
VIA A NORTHERN ATLANTIC ROUTETHE NORSE WOULD LATER MIMIC.
1563
00:49:39,208 --> 00:49:41,375
THE NORSE WOULD LATER MIMIC.OVERLAID, THEIR VOYAGES APPEAR
1564
00:49:41,377 --> 00:49:44,244
OVERLAID, THEIR VOYAGES APPEARQUITE SIMILAR.
1565
00:49:44,246 --> 00:49:46,613
QUITE SIMILAR.>> UNDER EXTREMELY FAVORABLE
1566
00:49:46,615 --> 00:49:48,916
>> UNDER EXTREMELY FAVORABLEOCEAN CURRENT CONDITIONS,
1567
00:49:48,918 --> 00:49:50,718
OCEAN CURRENT CONDITIONS,IT WOULD REQUIRE, AS A MINIMUM,
1568
00:49:50,720 --> 00:49:54,922
IT WOULD REQUIRE, AS A MINIMUM,180 DAYS BUT LIKELY MUCH LONGER.
1569
00:49:54,924 --> 00:49:57,024
180 DAYS BUT LIKELY MUCH LONGER.IT WOULD BE COMPLICATED.
1570
00:49:57,026 --> 00:49:58,892
IT WOULD BE COMPLICATED.IT WOULD REQUIRE A LOT OF
1571
00:49:58,894 --> 00:50:01,095
IT WOULD REQUIRE A LOT OFPADDLING OR A LOT OF SKILL
1572
00:50:01,097 --> 00:50:03,030
PADDLING OR A LOT OF SKILLWITH SAILING.
1573
00:50:03,032 --> 00:50:04,364
WITH SAILING.>> narrator: SAINT BRENDAN
1574
00:50:04,366 --> 00:50:05,399
>> narrator: SAINT BRENDANIS SAID TO HAVE SAILED
1575
00:50:05,401 --> 00:50:07,501
IS SAID TO HAVE SAILEDA SKIN BOAT CALLED A CURRAGH
1576
00:50:07,503 --> 00:50:09,136
A SKIN BOAT CALLED A CURRAGHMADE OF COWHIDES SOFTENED
1577
00:50:09,138 --> 00:50:11,705
MADE OF COWHIDES SOFTENEDBY BUTTER AND SEWN TOGETHER.
1578
00:50:11,707 --> 00:50:13,440
BY BUTTER AND SEWN TOGETHER.>> THE IRISH WERE BUILDING
1579
00:50:13,442 --> 00:50:15,242
>> THE IRISH WERE BUILDINGSKIN BOATS, SKIN BOATS CAPABLE
1580
00:50:15,244 --> 00:50:17,311
SKIN BOATS, SKIN BOATS CAPABLEOF TAKING EXTENDED VOYAGES.
1581
00:50:17,313 --> 00:50:18,579
OF TAKING EXTENDED VOYAGES.THEY HAVE A FRAMEWORK,
1582
00:50:18,581 --> 00:50:19,413
THEY HAVE A FRAMEWORK,A SKELETON.
1583
00:50:19,415 --> 00:50:20,948
A SKELETON.YOU BUILD A BASIC FRAME,
1584
00:50:20,950 --> 00:50:22,216
YOU BUILD A BASIC FRAME,AND THEN YOU STITCH AND SEW
1585
00:50:22,218 --> 00:50:23,684
AND THEN YOU STITCH AND SEWSKINS TOGETHER TO CREATE
1586
00:50:23,686 --> 00:50:25,853
SKINS TOGETHER TO CREATEA WATERTIGHT COVERING TO KEEP
1587
00:50:25,855 --> 00:50:27,621
A WATERTIGHT COVERING TO KEEPTHE SEA OUT.
1588
00:50:27,623 --> 00:50:28,455
THE SEA OUT.>> narrator: WHETHER SAINT
1589
00:50:28,457 --> 00:50:30,691
>> narrator: WHETHER SAINTBRENDAN REACHED AMERICA OR NOT,
1590
00:50:30,693 --> 00:50:32,392
BRENDAN REACHED AMERICA OR NOT,CARTOGRAPHERS BEGAN INCLUDING
1591
00:50:32,394 --> 00:50:34,461
CARTOGRAPHERS BEGAN INCLUDINGHIS ALLEGED PARADISE ON MAPS
1592
00:50:34,463 --> 00:50:36,263
HIS ALLEGED PARADISE ON MAPSIN THE 1200s.
1593
00:50:36,265 --> 00:50:37,698
IN THE 1200s.CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS HIMSELF
1594
00:50:37,700 --> 00:50:39,466
CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS HIMSELFWAS SUPPOSEDLY VERY INTERESTED
1595
00:50:39,468 --> 00:50:42,302
WAS SUPPOSEDLY VERY INTERESTEDIN WHERE SAINT BRENDAN HAD BEEN.
1596
00:50:42,304 --> 00:50:43,203
IN WHERE SAINT BRENDAN HAD BEEN.HIS ALLEGED TRIP TO IRELAND
1597
00:50:43,205 --> 00:50:44,638
HIS ALLEGED TRIP TO IRELANDTO LEARN THE DETAILS OF
1598
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,440
TO LEARN THE DETAILS OFBRENDAN'S VOYAGE HAS BEEN PART
1599
00:50:46,442 --> 00:50:47,975
BRENDAN'S VOYAGE HAS BEEN PARTOF THE COUNTRY'S ORAL HISTORY
1600
00:50:47,977 --> 00:50:49,443
OF THE COUNTRY'S ORAL HISTORYFOR CENTURIES.
1601
00:50:49,445 --> 00:50:51,478
FOR CENTURIES.>> COLUMBUS KNEW
1602
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,647
>> COLUMBUS KNEWOF THE STORY OF BRENDAN.
1603
00:50:53,649 --> 00:50:55,616
OF THE STORY OF BRENDAN.HE CAME TO GALWAY AND LEARNED
1604
00:50:55,618 --> 00:50:57,284
HE CAME TO GALWAY AND LEARNEDWHAT HE COULD ABOUT BRENDAN.
1605
00:50:57,286 --> 00:50:58,986
WHAT HE COULD ABOUT BRENDAN.IT IS A RECORDED FACT THAT
1606
00:50:58,988 --> 00:51:01,421
IT IS A RECORDED FACT THATTHE NIGHT BEFORE COLUMBUS
1607
00:51:01,423 --> 00:51:03,457
THE NIGHT BEFORE COLUMBUSDEPARTED FOR THE NEW WORLD,
1608
00:51:03,459 --> 00:51:06,260
DEPARTED FOR THE NEW WORLD,HE SAID, "I GO TO FIND THE
1609
00:51:06,262 --> 00:51:09,463
HE SAID, "I GO TO FIND THEPROMISED LAND OF SAINT BRENDAN."
1610
00:51:09,465 --> 00:51:10,330
PROMISED LAND OF SAINT BRENDAN.">> narrator: WHILE
1611
00:51:10,332 --> 00:51:11,498
>> narrator: WHILEA 19TH-CENTURY FRENCH WRITER
1612
00:51:11,500 --> 00:51:12,666
A 19TH-CENTURY FRENCH WRITERAND HISTORIAN NAMED
1613
00:51:12,668 --> 00:51:14,301
AND HISTORIAN NAMEDFERDINAND DENIS DID INCLUDE
1614
00:51:14,303 --> 00:51:15,569
FERDINAND DENIS DID INCLUDESOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT
1615
00:51:15,571 --> 00:51:16,570
SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECTIN A BOOK ABOUT WONDERS
1616
00:51:16,572 --> 00:51:18,138
IN A BOOK ABOUT WONDERSOF THE WORLD, HIS ORIGINAL
1617
00:51:18,140 --> 00:51:19,473
OF THE WORLD, HIS ORIGINALSOURCE FOR THE INFORMATION
1618
00:51:19,475 --> 00:51:21,341
SOURCE FOR THE INFORMATIONIS IN QUESTION.
1619
00:51:21,343 --> 00:51:22,843
IS IN QUESTION.WHAT ISN'T IN QUESTION
1620
00:51:22,845 --> 00:51:24,011
WHAT ISN'T IN QUESTIONIS THE FACT THAT COLUMBUS DID
1621
00:51:24,013 --> 00:51:26,413
IS THE FACT THAT COLUMBUS DIDFIND LAND IN 1492,
1622
00:51:26,415 --> 00:51:28,315
FIND LAND IN 1492,AND IT WAS THE BAHAMAS.
1623
00:51:28,317 --> 00:51:29,816
AND IT WAS THE BAHAMAS.BUT WHAT BRENDAN FOUND ALMOST
1624
00:51:29,818 --> 00:51:32,286
BUT WHAT BRENDAN FOUND ALMOST1,000 YEARS EARLIER MAY HAVE
1625
00:51:32,288 --> 00:51:37,024
1,000 YEARS EARLIER MAY HAVEBEEN MODERN-DAY CONNECTICUT.
1626
00:51:37,026 --> 00:51:42,296
>> THIS SITE HERE AT THEGUNGYWAMP HAS ALL OF THE KINDS
1627
00:51:42,298 --> 00:51:43,764
GUNGYWAMP HAS ALL OF THE KINDSOF EVIDENCE THAT WE WOULD EXPECT
1628
00:51:43,766 --> 00:51:45,365
OF EVIDENCE THAT WE WOULD EXPECTTO SEE IN AN IRISH
1629
00:51:45,367 --> 00:51:47,034
TO SEE IN AN IRISHEARLY CHRISTIAN SITE
1630
00:51:47,036 --> 00:51:48,201
EARLY CHRISTIAN SITEOF BRENDAN'S TIME.
1631
00:51:48,203 --> 00:51:49,236
OF BRENDAN'S TIME.>> narrator: SPREADING OUT
1632
00:51:49,238 --> 00:51:51,939
>> narrator: SPREADING OUTOVER 100 ACRES, THE GUNGYWAMP
1633
00:51:51,941 --> 00:51:53,707
OVER 100 ACRES, THE GUNGYWAMPARCHAEOLOGICAL SITE IN GROTON,
1634
00:51:53,709 --> 00:51:55,042
ARCHAEOLOGICAL SITE IN GROTON,CONNECTICUT, IS HOME TO
1635
00:51:55,044 --> 00:51:57,044
CONNECTICUT, IS HOME TOSTONE CHAMBERS, DWELLINGS,
1636
00:51:57,046 --> 00:51:58,679
STONE CHAMBERS, DWELLINGS,AND ROCK CARVINGS SOME
1637
00:51:58,681 --> 00:52:01,281
AND ROCK CARVINGS SOMEASSOCIATE WITH SAINT BRENDAN.
1638
00:52:01,283 --> 00:52:02,215
ASSOCIATE WITH SAINT BRENDAN.THEY WERE HERE EVEN BEFORE
1639
00:52:02,217 --> 00:52:03,584
THEY WERE HERE EVEN BEFOREENGLISH COLONISTS SETTLED
1640
00:52:03,586 --> 00:52:06,553
ENGLISH COLONISTS SETTLEDTHE AREA IN THE 1600s.
1641
00:52:06,555 --> 00:52:07,821
THE AREA IN THE 1600s.THE STONE CHAMBERS AT THE SITE
1642
00:52:07,823 --> 00:52:08,889
THE STONE CHAMBERS AT THE SITEDON'T LOOK SOPHISTICATED
1643
00:52:08,891 --> 00:52:10,958
DON'T LOOK SOPHISTICATEDAT FIRST GLANCE, BUT THEY HAVE
1644
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,326
AT FIRST GLANCE, BUT THEY HAVEUNDENIABLE FEATURES THAT
1645
00:52:12,328 --> 00:52:13,460
UNDENIABLE FEATURES THATSUGGEST THEY SERVED
1646
00:52:13,462 --> 00:52:15,162
SUGGEST THEY SERVEDA RELIGIOUS PURPOSE.
1647
00:52:15,164 --> 00:52:17,064
A RELIGIOUS PURPOSE.ON THE VERNAL AND AUTUMNAL
1648
00:52:17,066 --> 00:52:18,832
ON THE VERNAL AND AUTUMNALEQUINOXES, SUNLIGHT SHINES
1649
00:52:18,834 --> 00:52:20,334
EQUINOXES, SUNLIGHT SHINESTHROUGH THIS WINDOW,
1650
00:52:20,336 --> 00:52:22,936
THROUGH THIS WINDOW,ILLUMINATING THE CHAMBER.
1651
00:52:22,938 --> 00:52:24,071
ILLUMINATING THE CHAMBER.>> THE DATES THAT THE SUN SHINES
1652
00:52:24,073 --> 00:52:25,739
>> THE DATES THAT THE SUN SHINESINTO THIS CHAMBER ARE OF
1653
00:52:25,741 --> 00:52:27,641
INTO THIS CHAMBER ARE OFSIGNIFICANCE TO THE IRISH
1654
00:52:27,643 --> 00:52:28,842
SIGNIFICANCE TO THE IRISHEARLY CHRISTIAN
1655
00:52:28,844 --> 00:52:30,844
EARLY CHRISTIANLITURGICAL CYCLE.
1656
00:52:30,846 --> 00:52:32,479
LITURGICAL CYCLE.IT'S THE OCCURRENCE OF THE SUN'S
1657
00:52:32,481 --> 00:52:34,181
IT'S THE OCCURRENCE OF THE SUN'SPOSITION ON THE VERNAL EQUINOX
1658
00:52:34,183 --> 00:52:35,882
POSITION ON THE VERNAL EQUINOXWHICH HERALDS THE APPROACHING
1659
00:52:35,884 --> 00:52:37,551
WHICH HERALDS THE APPROACHINGDATE FOR EASTER.
1660
00:52:37,553 --> 00:52:38,485
DATE FOR EASTER.>> narrator: BETWEEN
1661
00:52:38,487 --> 00:52:40,087
>> narrator: BETWEENTHE SIXTH AND TENTH CENTURIES,
1662
00:52:40,089 --> 00:52:41,955
THE SIXTH AND TENTH CENTURIES,SOLAR ALIGNMENTS LIKE THE ONES
1663
00:52:41,957 --> 00:52:43,824
SOLAR ALIGNMENTS LIKE THE ONESFOUND AT THE GUNGYWAMP SITE
1664
00:52:43,826 --> 00:52:45,192
FOUND AT THE GUNGYWAMP SITEWERE A COMPONENT OF SMALL
1665
00:52:45,194 --> 00:52:47,828
WERE A COMPONENT OF SMALLIRISH CHURCHES, LIKE THE
1666
00:52:47,830 --> 00:52:48,862
IRISH CHURCHES, LIKE THEGALLARUS ORATORY ON THE
1667
00:52:48,864 --> 00:52:51,665
GALLARUS ORATORY ON THEDINGLE PENINSULA.
1668
00:52:51,667 --> 00:52:53,000
DINGLE PENINSULA.>> IT HAS AN EAST-WEST
1669
00:52:53,002 --> 00:52:54,868
>> IT HAS AN EAST-WESTALIGNMENT, THE EAST WINDOW
1670
00:52:54,870 --> 00:52:57,304
ALIGNMENT, THE EAST WINDOWAND THE WEST DOORWAY OVER HERE,
1671
00:52:57,306 --> 00:52:59,106
AND THE WEST DOORWAY OVER HERE,AND THE STONES HAVE BEEN VERY
1672
00:52:59,108 --> 00:53:02,309
AND THE STONES HAVE BEEN VERYCAREFULLY SELECTED TO BUILD
1673
00:53:02,311 --> 00:53:05,178
CAREFULLY SELECTED TO BUILDSUCH A PERFECT BUILDING.
1674
00:53:05,180 --> 00:53:06,313
SUCH A PERFECT BUILDING.>> narrator: SOLAR ALIGNMENTS
1675
00:53:06,315 --> 00:53:07,848
>> narrator: SOLAR ALIGNMENTSAND STONE MASONRY ALONE
1676
00:53:07,850 --> 00:53:09,416
AND STONE MASONRY ALONECAN'T PROVE THE IRISH MADE IT
1677
00:53:09,418 --> 00:53:10,450
CAN'T PROVE THE IRISH MADE ITTO WHAT WOULD BECOME
1678
00:53:10,452 --> 00:53:12,486
TO WHAT WOULD BECOMETHE UNITED STATES,
1679
00:53:12,488 --> 00:53:14,454
THE UNITED STATES,BUT THESE COULD BE ANOTHER
1680
00:53:14,456 --> 00:53:16,857
BUT THESE COULD BE ANOTHERPIECE OF EVIDENCE.
1681
00:53:16,859 --> 00:53:19,126
PIECE OF EVIDENCE.THEY'RE SYMBOLS CALLED CHI-RHOS.
1682
00:53:19,128 --> 00:53:20,627
THEY'RE SYMBOLS CALLED CHI-RHOS.OUTLINING THEM IN CHALK
1683
00:53:20,629 --> 00:53:23,130
OUTLINING THEM IN CHALKMAKES THEM EASIER TO SEE.
1684
00:53:23,132 --> 00:53:24,231
MAKES THEM EASIER TO SEE.>> THEY ARE FULLY CONSISTENT
1685
00:53:24,233 --> 00:53:26,233
>> THEY ARE FULLY CONSISTENTWITH THE IRISH EARLY CHRISTIAN
1686
00:53:26,235 --> 00:53:27,901
WITH THE IRISH EARLY CHRISTIANTRADITION, THAT IS TO SAY,
1687
00:53:27,903 --> 00:53:30,637
TRADITION, THAT IS TO SAY,ROUGHLY 500 TO, LET'S SAY,
1688
00:53:30,639 --> 00:53:32,839
ROUGHLY 500 TO, LET'S SAY,900 A.D.
1689
00:53:32,841 --> 00:53:33,840
900 A.D.>> narrator: A CHI-RHO IS
1690
00:53:33,842 --> 00:53:35,642
>> narrator: A CHI-RHO ISAN ANCIENT RELIGIOUS SYMBOL.
1691
00:53:35,644 --> 00:53:37,010
AN ANCIENT RELIGIOUS SYMBOL.IT'S MADE BY SUPERIMPOSING
1692
00:53:37,012 --> 00:53:38,745
IT'S MADE BY SUPERIMPOSINGTHE FIRST TWO GREEK LETTERS,
1693
00:53:38,747 --> 00:53:40,013
THE FIRST TWO GREEK LETTERS,CHI AND RHO,
1694
00:53:40,015 --> 00:53:42,149
CHI AND RHO,USED TO SPELL CHRIST.
1695
00:53:42,151 --> 00:53:44,151
USED TO SPELL CHRIST.BELIEVERS THINK THE IRISH LEFT
1696
00:53:44,153 --> 00:53:45,218
BELIEVERS THINK THE IRISH LEFTTHESE HERE AT THE TIME OF
1697
00:53:45,220 --> 00:53:47,020
THESE HERE AT THE TIME OFSAINT BRENDAN, BUT THEY CAN'T
1698
00:53:47,022 --> 00:53:48,321
SAINT BRENDAN, BUT THEY CAN'TPROVE IT BECAUSE THE ETCHING
1699
00:53:48,323 --> 00:53:49,956
PROVE IT BECAUSE THE ETCHINGON THIS TYPE OF STONE CAN'T BE
1700
00:53:49,958 --> 00:53:52,926
ON THIS TYPE OF STONE CAN'T BEACCURATELY DATED.
1701
00:53:52,928 --> 00:53:53,927
ACCURATELY DATED.THERE ARE CHARCOAL REMNANTS
1702
00:53:53,929 --> 00:53:56,763
THERE ARE CHARCOAL REMNANTSHERE THAT DATE TO 556 A.D.,
1703
00:53:56,765 --> 00:53:58,331
HERE THAT DATE TO 556 A.D.,SO SOMEONE MADE FIRES THAT FAR
1704
00:53:58,333 --> 00:54:00,333
SO SOMEONE MADE FIRES THAT FARBACK, BUT THERE'S NO PROOF
1705
00:54:00,335 --> 00:54:02,169
BACK, BUT THERE'S NO PROOFIT WAS THE IRISH.
1706
00:54:02,171 --> 00:54:04,204
IT WAS THE IRISH.IF THEY WERE HERE, THEY DIDN'T
1707
00:54:04,206 --> 00:54:06,072
IF THEY WERE HERE, THEY DIDN'TLEAVE BEHIND ANY OF THEIR
1708
00:54:06,074 --> 00:54:08,208
LEAVE BEHIND ANY OF THEIRWRITTEN LANGUAGE, CALLED OGHAM,
1709
00:54:08,210 --> 00:54:09,509
WRITTEN LANGUAGE, CALLED OGHAM,BUT THERE MAY BE EVIDENCE OF
1710
00:54:09,511 --> 00:54:13,079
BUT THERE MAY BE EVIDENCE OFOGHAM SOMEWHERE ELSE IN AMERICA.
1711
00:54:13,081 --> 00:54:14,214
OGHAM SOMEWHERE ELSE IN AMERICA.>> OGHAMS WERE USED EITHER
1712
00:54:14,216 --> 00:54:17,083
>> OGHAMS WERE USED EITHERAS A MEMORIAL OR A LAND CLAIM,
1713
00:54:17,085 --> 00:54:18,952
AS A MEMORIAL OR A LAND CLAIM,LAND MARKER.
1714
00:54:18,954 --> 00:54:19,953
LAND MARKER.>> narrator: OGHAM LOOKS
1715
00:54:19,955 --> 00:54:20,821
>> narrator: OGHAM LOOKSTO MOST PEOPLE LIKE
1716
00:54:20,823 --> 00:54:22,189
TO MOST PEOPLE LIKEA SERIES OF NONSENSICAL
1717
00:54:22,191 --> 00:54:24,291
A SERIES OF NONSENSICALHASH MARKS, BUT THE LINES
1718
00:54:24,293 --> 00:54:25,692
HASH MARKS, BUT THE LINESTRANSLATE INTO LETTERS
1719
00:54:25,694 --> 00:54:27,327
TRANSLATE INTO LETTERSOF THE ALPHABET.
1720
00:54:27,329 --> 00:54:28,962
OF THE ALPHABET.>> THESE MARKS ARE FOUND ALL
1721
00:54:28,964 --> 00:54:30,831
>> THESE MARKS ARE FOUND ALLOVER NORTH AMERICA, THE UNITED
1722
00:54:30,833 --> 00:54:31,998
OVER NORTH AMERICA, THE UNITEDSTATES AND CANADA.
1723
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,100
STATES AND CANADA.>> narrator: THESE WERE FOUND
1724
00:54:34,102 --> 00:54:35,202
>> narrator: THESE WERE FOUNDAT BUCKHORN STATE PARK
1725
00:54:35,204 --> 00:54:36,670
AT BUCKHORN STATE PARKIN KENTUCKY.
1726
00:54:36,672 --> 00:54:38,205
IN KENTUCKY.>> IN THE MIDDLE PANEL, THERE
1727
00:54:38,207 --> 00:54:39,639
>> IN THE MIDDLE PANEL, THEREWERE THINGS THAT I COULD GRASP
1728
00:54:39,641 --> 00:54:42,209
WERE THINGS THAT I COULD GRASPIN OLD CELTIC, AND IT WAS SAYING
1729
00:54:42,211 --> 00:54:44,845
IN OLD CELTIC, AND IT WAS SAYINGTHINGS LIKE, "WE ARE A BAND OF
1730
00:54:44,847 --> 00:54:47,447
THINGS LIKE, "WE ARE A BAND OFPEOPLE TRAVELING FROM ACROSS..."
1731
00:54:47,449 --> 00:54:48,615
PEOPLE TRAVELING FROM ACROSS..."IT COULD BE FROM ACROSS THE
1732
00:54:48,617 --> 00:54:51,918
IT COULD BE FROM ACROSS THEAPPALACHIANS OR ACROSS THE SEA.
1733
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,855
APPALACHIANS OR ACROSS THE SEA.THE DEBATE IS, ARE THESE TRULY
1734
00:54:54,857 --> 00:54:56,890
THE DEBATE IS, ARE THESE TRULYOGHAMS OR ARE THEY SOMETHING
1735
00:54:56,892 --> 00:54:57,724
OGHAMS OR ARE THEY SOMETHINGELSE?
1736
00:54:57,726 --> 00:54:58,658
ELSE?SOME OF IT CAN READ
1737
00:54:58,660 --> 00:55:00,293
SOME OF IT CAN READAS OLD CELTIC, AND SOME OF IT
1738
00:55:00,295 --> 00:55:01,728
AS OLD CELTIC, AND SOME OF ITCAN READ AS ALGONQUIN.
1739
00:55:01,730 --> 00:55:03,630
CAN READ AS ALGONQUIN.THEY LOOK VERY, VERY, VERY
1740
00:55:03,632 --> 00:55:05,065
THEY LOOK VERY, VERY, VERYMUCH ALIKE.
1741
00:55:05,067 --> 00:55:07,267
MUCH ALIKE.MOST AMERICAN SCHOLARS
1742
00:55:07,269 --> 00:55:08,635
MOST AMERICAN SCHOLARSDO NOT REGARD OGHAM
1743
00:55:08,637 --> 00:55:09,803
DO NOT REGARD OGHAMAS AUTHENTIC.
1744
00:55:09,805 --> 00:55:10,670
AS AUTHENTIC.>> YOU WOULD NEED AN IRISH
1745
00:55:10,672 --> 00:55:12,339
>> YOU WOULD NEED AN IRISHEXPERT, PERHAPS, TO GO OUT,
1746
00:55:12,341 --> 00:55:14,474
EXPERT, PERHAPS, TO GO OUT,LOOK AT YOUR INSCRIPTIONS,
1747
00:55:14,476 --> 00:55:15,909
LOOK AT YOUR INSCRIPTIONS,AND SEE IF THEY COULD READ THEM,
1748
00:55:15,911 --> 00:55:16,977
AND SEE IF THEY COULD READ THEM,SEE IF THEY COULD MAKE ANY SENSE
1749
00:55:16,979 --> 00:55:18,345
SEE IF THEY COULD MAKE ANY SENSEOF THEM.
1750
00:55:18,347 --> 00:55:19,412
OF THEM.>> narrator: WITH NO HARD
1751
00:55:19,414 --> 00:55:22,015
>> narrator: WITH NO HARDEVIDENCE, NO UNDENIABLE REMNANTS
1752
00:55:22,017 --> 00:55:24,017
EVIDENCE, NO UNDENIABLE REMNANTSOF SIXTH-CENTURY IRISH
1753
00:55:24,019 --> 00:55:25,352
OF SIXTH-CENTURY IRISHFOUND IN AMERICA,
1754
00:55:25,354 --> 00:55:26,820
FOUND IN AMERICA,SAINT BRENDAN'S LEGEND OF
1755
00:55:26,822 --> 00:55:28,855
SAINT BRENDAN'S LEGEND OFAN AMERICAN LANDFALL MAY BE
1756
00:55:28,857 --> 00:55:33,727
AN AMERICAN LANDFALL MAY BEJUST THAT, A LEGEND.
1757
00:55:33,729 --> 00:55:35,262
JUST THAT, A LEGEND.>> ARCHAEOLOGISTS LOOK AT
1758
00:55:35,264 --> 00:55:36,696
>> ARCHAEOLOGISTS LOOK ATWHAT'S LEFT.
1759
00:55:36,698 --> 00:55:37,731
WHAT'S LEFT.WE TRY TO FIND EVIDENCE TO
1760
00:55:37,733 --> 00:55:39,866
WE TRY TO FIND EVIDENCE TOSUGGEST WHETHER A MYTH IS JUST
1761
00:55:39,868 --> 00:55:41,434
SUGGEST WHETHER A MYTH IS JUSTTHAT OR IF IT TELLS
1762
00:55:41,436 --> 00:55:42,602
THAT OR IF IT TELLSA FUNDAMENTAL TRUTH THAT'S BEEN
1763
00:55:42,604 --> 00:55:44,271
A FUNDAMENTAL TRUTH THAT'S BEENFORGOTTEN.
1764
00:55:44,273 --> 00:55:45,338
FORGOTTEN.WE HAVEN'T FOUND THAT EVIDENCE
1765
00:55:45,340 --> 00:55:48,341
WE HAVEN'T FOUND THAT EVIDENCEFOR THE BRENDAN VOYAGE.
1766
00:55:48,343 --> 00:55:49,275
FOR THE BRENDAN VOYAGE.>> narrator: SAINT BRENDAN
1767
00:55:49,277 --> 00:55:53,647
>> narrator: SAINT BRENDANDIED IN 577 A.D., LEAVING BEHIND
1768
00:55:53,649 --> 00:55:57,017
DIED IN 577 A.D., LEAVING BEHINDTHE MYSTERY OF HIS PARADISE.
1769
00:55:57,019 --> 00:55:58,818
THE MYSTERY OF HIS PARADISE.AT THE ROOT OF HIS JOURNEY WAS
1770
00:55:58,820 --> 00:56:00,887
AT THE ROOT OF HIS JOURNEY WASRELIGION AND A DESIRE TO SPREAD
1771
00:56:00,889 --> 00:56:02,722
RELIGION AND A DESIRE TO SPREADHIS BELIEFS.
1772
00:56:02,724 --> 00:56:05,125
HIS BELIEFS.IN THAT WAY, HE WAS LIKE OTHERS
1773
00:56:05,127 --> 00:56:06,626
IN THAT WAY, HE WAS LIKE OTHERSWHO MAY HAVE COME TO AMERICA
1774
00:56:06,628 --> 00:56:09,696
WHO MAY HAVE COME TO AMERICAEVEN BEFORE HIM.
1775
00:56:09,698 --> 00:56:11,698
EVEN BEFORE HIM.A VOYAGE BY ANCIENT HEBREWS
1776
00:56:11,700 --> 00:56:13,299
A VOYAGE BY ANCIENT HEBREWSTO AMERICA BEFORE THE TIME
1777
00:56:13,301 --> 00:56:15,135
TO AMERICA BEFORE THE TIMEOF CHRIST IS THE FOUNDATION
1778
00:56:15,137 --> 00:56:17,303
OF CHRIST IS THE FOUNDATIONFOR AN ENTIRE RELIGION.
1779
00:56:17,305 --> 00:56:20,306
FOR AN ENTIRE RELIGION.NOW COULD BLOOD EVIDENCE PROVE
1780
00:56:20,308 --> 00:56:22,308
NOW COULD BLOOD EVIDENCE PROVENOT ONLY THAT THEY WERE HERE
1781
00:56:22,310 --> 00:56:23,910
NOT ONLY THAT THEY WERE HEREBUT THAT THEY'RE THE ANCESTORS
1782
00:56:23,912 --> 00:56:26,980
BUT THAT THEY'RE THE ANCESTORSOF MODERN-DAY CHEROKEE?
1783
00:56:26,982 --> 00:56:36,289
>> narrator: ISRAEL, 600 B.C.,2,092 YEARS BEFORE COLUMBUS.
1784
00:56:36,291 --> 00:56:37,991
2,092 YEARS BEFORE COLUMBUS.ELSEWHERE IN THE WORLD,
1785
00:56:37,993 --> 00:56:39,993
ELSEWHERE IN THE WORLD,POMPEII IS FOUNDED IN ITALY,
1786
00:56:39,995 --> 00:56:41,461
POMPEII IS FOUNDED IN ITALY,LATER TO BE DESTROYED BY
1787
00:56:41,463 --> 00:56:43,496
LATER TO BE DESTROYED BYTHE ERUPTION OF MOUNT VESUVIUS,
1788
00:56:43,498 --> 00:56:44,831
THE ERUPTION OF MOUNT VESUVIUS,AND THE MAYAN CULTURE
1789
00:56:44,833 --> 00:56:47,233
AND THE MAYAN CULTUREIS FLOURISHING IN MESOAMERICA.
1790
00:56:47,235 --> 00:56:49,502
IS FLOURISHING IN MESOAMERICA.IN ISRAEL, JERUSALEM WILL SOON
1791
00:56:49,504 --> 00:56:51,738
IN ISRAEL, JERUSALEM WILL SOONBE TAKEN OVER BY THE BABYLONIANS
1792
00:56:51,740 --> 00:56:52,739
BE TAKEN OVER BY THE BABYLONIANSAND THE TEMPLE OF SOLOMON
1793
00:56:52,741 --> 00:56:54,274
AND THE TEMPLE OF SOLOMONDESTROYED.
1794
00:56:54,276 --> 00:56:56,342
DESTROYED.ANCIENT HEBREWS ARE FLEEING
1795
00:56:56,344 --> 00:57:00,680
ANCIENT HEBREWS ARE FLEEINGBUT WHERE TO?
1796
00:57:00,682 --> 00:57:03,349
BUT WHERE TO?>> THE THOUGHT OF EARLY HEBREWS
1797
00:57:03,351 --> 00:57:04,250
>> THE THOUGHT OF EARLY HEBREWSCOMING TO THE NEW WORLD
1798
00:57:04,252 --> 00:57:05,685
COMING TO THE NEW WORLDHAS BEEN A TOPIC OF A GREAT DEAL
1799
00:57:05,687 --> 00:57:07,387
HAS BEEN A TOPIC OF A GREAT DEALOF DISCUSSION GOING ALL THE WAY
1800
00:57:07,389 --> 00:57:09,856
OF DISCUSSION GOING ALL THE WAYBACK TO THE 19TH CENTURY.
1801
00:57:09,858 --> 00:57:10,990
BACK TO THE 19TH CENTURY.>> narrator: THE CHURCH OF
1802
00:57:10,992 --> 00:57:12,559
>> narrator: THE CHURCH OFJESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY
1803
00:57:12,561 --> 00:57:14,160
JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAYSAINTS IS BASED IN PART
1804
00:57:14,162 --> 00:57:15,528
SAINTS IS BASED IN PARTON THE BOOK OF MORMON
1805
00:57:15,530 --> 00:57:17,263
ON THE BOOK OF MORMONWHICH TELLS HOW A PROPHET
1806
00:57:17,265 --> 00:57:19,399
WHICH TELLS HOW A PROPHETNAMED LEHI AND HIS SONS
1807
00:57:19,401 --> 00:57:21,034
NAMED LEHI AND HIS SONSBUILT A BOAT AND SAILED IT
1808
00:57:21,036 --> 00:57:24,170
BUILT A BOAT AND SAILED ITTO AMERICA AROUND 600 B.C.
1809
00:57:24,172 --> 00:57:25,939
TO AMERICA AROUND 600 B.C.ARTISTIC RENDERINGS OFTEN
1810
00:57:25,941 --> 00:57:27,407
ARTISTIC RENDERINGS OFTENDEPICT IT AS A TYPE OF ARK
1811
00:57:27,409 --> 00:57:29,275
DEPICT IT AS A TYPE OF ARKWITH SAILS, BUT THERE WAS
1812
00:57:29,277 --> 00:57:30,910
WITH SAILS, BUT THERE WASANOTHER TYPE OF SHIP ISRAELITES
1813
00:57:30,912 --> 00:57:33,646
ANOTHER TYPE OF SHIP ISRAELITESWERE USING AT THAT TIME.
1814
00:57:33,648 --> 00:57:34,614
WERE USING AT THAT TIME.>> THE ROMAN SHIPS THAT THE
1815
00:57:34,616 --> 00:57:36,349
>> THE ROMAN SHIPS THAT THEHEBREWS WOULD HAVE USED HAD THEY
1816
00:57:36,351 --> 00:57:37,917
HEBREWS WOULD HAVE USED HAD THEYMADE SUCH A VOYAGE WOULD BE
1817
00:57:37,919 --> 00:57:40,820
MADE SUCH A VOYAGE WOULD BESOLID BUILT, ROUND-FORMED HULLS,
1818
00:57:40,822 --> 00:57:41,788
SOLID BUILT, ROUND-FORMED HULLS,HEAVILY FRAMED,
1819
00:57:41,790 --> 00:57:43,022
HEAVILY FRAMED,THAT IS, THICK RIBBED,
1820
00:57:43,024 --> 00:57:44,290
THAT IS, THICK RIBBED,CARRYING A SQUARE SAIL
1821
00:57:44,292 --> 00:57:45,558
CARRYING A SQUARE SAILWITH A HIGH-ELEVATED
1822
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:46,826
WITH A HIGH-ELEVATEDBOW AND STERN,
1823
00:57:46,828 --> 00:57:47,894
BOW AND STERN,CAPABLE OF CARRYING ALL SORTS
1824
00:57:47,896 --> 00:57:50,363
CAPABLE OF CARRYING ALL SORTSOF CARGO AND PEOPLE.
1825
00:57:50,365 --> 00:57:51,798
OF CARGO AND PEOPLE.>> narrator: LEHI'S ALLEGED
1826
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:52,966
>> narrator: LEHI'S ALLEGEDROUTE WOULD HAVE TAKEN HIM
1827
00:57:52,968 --> 00:57:54,634
ROUTE WOULD HAVE TAKEN HIMFROM OMAN THROUGH THE INDIAN
1828
00:57:54,636 --> 00:57:56,302
FROM OMAN THROUGH THE INDIANAND PACIFIC OCEANS TO THE
1829
00:57:56,304 --> 00:57:58,171
AND PACIFIC OCEANS TO THECENTRAL AMERICAN COAST.
1830
00:57:58,173 --> 00:58:00,540
CENTRAL AMERICAN COAST.EVEN USING OCEAN CURRENTS,
1831
00:58:00,542 --> 00:58:01,808
EVEN USING OCEAN CURRENTS,THE DRIFTERS SUGGEST
1832
00:58:01,810 --> 00:58:04,544
THE DRIFTERS SUGGESTIT WOULD HAVE TAKEN 580 DAYS.
1833
00:58:04,546 --> 00:58:05,478
IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN 580 DAYS.THAT'S MORE THAN
1834
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,481
THAT'S MORE THANA YEAR AND A HALF.
1835
00:58:08,483 --> 00:58:09,482
A YEAR AND A HALF.>> I DON'T THINK THERE'S
1836
00:58:09,484 --> 00:58:10,717
>> I DON'T THINK THERE'SA QUESTION OF SHIPS MAKING IT.
1837
00:58:10,719 --> 00:58:11,651
A QUESTION OF SHIPS MAKING IT.A VESSEL CAN MAKE IT WITH
1838
00:58:11,653 --> 00:58:12,752
A VESSEL CAN MAKE IT WITHDEAD PEOPLE.
1839
00:58:12,754 --> 00:58:13,887
DEAD PEOPLE.THE QUESTION IS WHETHER PEOPLE
1840
00:58:13,889 --> 00:58:15,355
THE QUESTION IS WHETHER PEOPLEWOULD MAKE IT IN THAT VOYAGE
1841
00:58:15,357 --> 00:58:17,090
WOULD MAKE IT IN THAT VOYAGEIF IT TOOK A GREAT DEAL OF TIME
1842
00:58:17,092 --> 00:58:18,625
IF IT TOOK A GREAT DEAL OF TIMEOR THEY HAD NO WAY OF KNOWING
1843
00:58:18,627 --> 00:58:20,059
OR THEY HAD NO WAY OF KNOWINGWHERE THEY WERE GOING.
1844
00:58:20,061 --> 00:58:21,527
WHERE THEY WERE GOING.>> narrator: LEHI ISN'T
1845
00:58:21,529 --> 00:58:23,329
>> narrator: LEHI ISN'TTHE ONLY ANCIENT ISRAELITE
1846
00:58:23,331 --> 00:58:24,497
THE ONLY ANCIENT ISRAELITETHOUGHT BY SOME TO HAVE MADE IT
1847
00:58:24,499 --> 00:58:25,965
THOUGHT BY SOME TO HAVE MADE ITTO AMERICA.
1848
00:58:25,967 --> 00:58:26,966
TO AMERICA.THERE IS OTHER LORE THAT
1849
00:58:26,968 --> 00:58:28,534
THERE IS OTHER LORE THATONE OF THE TEN LOST TRIBES
1850
00:58:28,536 --> 00:58:29,802
ONE OF THE TEN LOST TRIBESOF ISRAEL EXILED BY
1851
00:58:29,804 --> 00:58:32,238
OF ISRAEL EXILED BYTHE ASSYRIANS IN 700 B.C.
1852
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,908
THE ASSYRIANS IN 700 B.C.ALSO ENDED UP IN THE NEW WORLD.
1853
00:58:34,910 --> 00:58:36,342
ALSO ENDED UP IN THE NEW WORLD.EITHER SCENARIO ENDS WITH
1854
00:58:36,344 --> 00:58:37,911
EITHER SCENARIO ENDS WITHTHE SAME ASSUMPTION,
1855
00:58:37,913 --> 00:58:39,345
THE SAME ASSUMPTION,THAT ANCIENT JEWISH PEOPLE
1856
00:58:39,347 --> 00:58:40,780
THAT ANCIENT JEWISH PEOPLEARE THE ANCESTORS
1857
00:58:40,782 --> 00:58:43,983
ARE THE ANCESTORSOF SOME NATIVE AMERICANS.
1858
00:58:43,985 --> 00:58:46,953
OF SOME NATIVE AMERICANS.>> WE ARE A JEWISH PEOPLE
1859
00:58:46,955 --> 00:58:51,057
>> WE ARE A JEWISH PEOPLEBY RACE AND BY CULTURE.
1860
00:58:51,059 --> 00:58:52,458
BY RACE AND BY CULTURE.ALL OF OUR CEREMONIAL DAYS
1861
00:58:52,460 --> 00:58:54,260
ALL OF OUR CEREMONIAL DAYSARE EXACTLY THE SAME TIME
1862
00:58:54,262 --> 00:58:55,862
ARE EXACTLY THE SAME TIMEAS THE JEWISH PEOPLE, AND THAT
1863
00:58:55,864 --> 00:58:57,363
AS THE JEWISH PEOPLE, AND THATCANNOT BE OF ANY ACCIDENT
1864
00:58:57,365 --> 00:59:00,533
CANNOT BE OF ANY ACCIDENTOR ANY COINCIDENCE AT ALL.
1865
00:59:00,535 --> 00:59:01,634
OR ANY COINCIDENCE AT ALL.>> narrator: LIGHT-SKINNED
1866
00:59:01,636 --> 00:59:03,369
>> narrator: LIGHT-SKINNEDMEMBERS OF THE CENTRAL BAND
1867
00:59:03,371 --> 00:59:04,470
MEMBERS OF THE CENTRAL BANDOF CHEROKEE DON'T LOOK LIKE
1868
00:59:04,472 --> 00:59:07,240
OF CHEROKEE DON'T LOOK LIKEMANY NATIVE AMERICANS.
1869
00:59:07,242 --> 00:59:08,374
MANY NATIVE AMERICANS.CHEROKEE STARTED MINGLING WITH
1870
00:59:08,376 --> 00:59:10,209
CHEROKEE STARTED MINGLING WITHWHITE SETTLERS MUCH EARLIER THAN
1871
00:59:10,211 --> 00:59:12,178
WHITE SETTLERS MUCH EARLIER THANOTHER NORTH AMERICAN TRIBES,
1872
00:59:12,180 --> 00:59:14,380
OTHER NORTH AMERICAN TRIBES,AS EARLY AS THE 1600s.
1873
00:59:14,382 --> 00:59:16,182
AS EARLY AS THE 1600s.THAT'S ONE POSSIBLE EXPLANATION
1874
00:59:16,184 --> 00:59:18,251
THAT'S ONE POSSIBLE EXPLANATIONFOR THEIR SKIN COLOR.
1875
00:59:18,253 --> 00:59:19,652
FOR THEIR SKIN COLOR.BUT COULD ANOTHER BE THAT
1876
00:59:19,654 --> 00:59:21,421
BUT COULD ANOTHER BE THATTHEY DON'T HAVE ORIGINS IN ASIA
1877
00:59:21,423 --> 00:59:23,956
THEY DON'T HAVE ORIGINS IN ASIALIKE MOST NATIVE AMERICANS DO?
1878
00:59:23,958 --> 00:59:25,625
LIKE MOST NATIVE AMERICANS DO?SO STRONG IS THE CENTRAL BAND'S
1879
00:59:25,627 --> 00:59:26,993
SO STRONG IS THE CENTRAL BAND'SBELIEF THAT THEY HAVE JEWISH
1880
00:59:26,995 --> 00:59:28,895
BELIEF THAT THEY HAVE JEWISHANCESTRY AND ORIGINS IN ANCIENT
1881
00:59:28,897 --> 00:59:31,064
ANCESTRY AND ORIGINS IN ANCIENTISRAEL, THEY SET OUT TO PROVE
1882
00:59:31,066 --> 00:59:33,399
ISRAEL, THEY SET OUT TO PROVEIT BY BLOOD.
1883
00:59:33,401 --> 00:59:35,601
IT BY BLOOD.>> WELL, WE KNEW THAT DNA
1884
00:59:35,603 --> 00:59:38,404
>> WELL, WE KNEW THAT DNAWOULD PLAY A MAJOR ROLE
1885
00:59:38,406 --> 00:59:41,407
WOULD PLAY A MAJOR ROLEIN THIS PROOF OR DISPROOF.
1886
00:59:41,409 --> 00:59:43,142
IN THIS PROOF OR DISPROOF.SO WE'VE DONE A CONSIDERABLE
1887
00:59:43,144 --> 00:59:45,311
SO WE'VE DONE A CONSIDERABLEAMOUNT OF DNA TESTING WITH
1888
00:59:45,313 --> 00:59:48,014
AMOUNT OF DNA TESTING WITHFAMILY TREE DNA.
1889
00:59:48,016 --> 00:59:49,515
FAMILY TREE DNA.>> WE DO A MULTITUDE OF THINGS.
1890
00:59:49,517 --> 00:59:51,484
>> WE DO A MULTITUDE OF THINGS.WE CONNECT PEOPLE
1891
00:59:51,486 --> 00:59:53,720
WE CONNECT PEOPLEBOTH GENEALOGICALLY AND
1892
00:59:53,722 --> 00:59:55,021
BOTH GENEALOGICALLY ANDANTHROPOLOGICALLY TO THEIR
1893
00:59:55,023 --> 00:59:57,190
ANTHROPOLOGICALLY TO THEIRANCESTORS.
1894
00:59:57,192 --> 00:59:59,192
ANCESTORS.WE'RE ALSO ABLE TO DETERMINE
1895
00:59:59,194 --> 01:00:02,228
WE'RE ALSO ABLE TO DETERMINESOMEONE'S DEEPER ANCESTRY,
1896
01:00:02,230 --> 01:00:03,196
SOMEONE'S DEEPER ANCESTRY,WHAT WE CALL THEIR
1897
01:00:03,198 --> 01:00:06,032
WHAT WE CALL THEIRANTHROGENEALOGICAL INFORMATION.
1898
01:00:06,034 --> 01:00:07,500
ANTHROGENEALOGICAL INFORMATION.AND WHAT THAT DOES IS,
1899
01:00:07,502 --> 01:00:09,335
AND WHAT THAT DOES IS,THAT TRACKS THE INDIVIDUAL
1900
01:00:09,337 --> 01:00:11,771
THAT TRACKS THE INDIVIDUALBACK NOT HUNDREDS OF YEARS,
1901
01:00:11,773 --> 01:00:13,206
BACK NOT HUNDREDS OF YEARS,AS WE DO IN GENEALOGY,
1902
01:00:13,208 --> 01:00:14,107
AS WE DO IN GENEALOGY,BUT THOUSANDS OR
1903
01:00:14,109 --> 01:00:18,344
BUT THOUSANDS ORTENS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS.
1904
01:00:18,346 --> 01:00:21,681
TENS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS.EVERYBODY NEEDS TO SUIT UP.
1905
01:00:21,683 --> 01:00:23,116
EVERYBODY NEEDS TO SUIT UP.>> narrator: CHIEF SITTING OWL'S
1906
01:00:23,118 --> 01:00:24,217
>> narrator: CHIEF SITTING OWL'SBLOOD WAS TESTED ALONG WITH
1907
01:00:24,219 --> 01:00:25,918
BLOOD WAS TESTED ALONG WITHTHE BLOOD OF 89 OTHER MEMBERS
1908
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:27,954
THE BLOOD OF 89 OTHER MEMBERSOF THE CENTRAL BAND OF CHEROKEE
1909
01:00:27,956 --> 01:00:29,222
OF THE CENTRAL BAND OF CHEROKEEFOR ASSIGNMENT INTO
1910
01:00:29,224 --> 01:00:30,690
FOR ASSIGNMENT INTOWHAT'S CALLED A HAPLOGROUP,
1911
01:00:30,692 --> 01:00:32,258
WHAT'S CALLED A HAPLOGROUP,OR GROUP OF PEOPLE WITH
1912
01:00:32,260 --> 01:00:34,227
OR GROUP OF PEOPLE WITHA COMMON DNA SEQUENCE.
1913
01:00:34,229 --> 01:00:35,728
A COMMON DNA SEQUENCE.JEWISH PEOPLE TYPICALLY FALL
1914
01:00:35,730 --> 01:00:38,765
JEWISH PEOPLE TYPICALLY FALLINTO ONE OF FOUR HAPLOGROUPS.
1915
01:00:38,767 --> 01:00:41,634
INTO ONE OF FOUR HAPLOGROUPS.>> A GREAT AMOUNT OF OUR BELIEFS
1916
01:00:41,636 --> 01:00:45,238
>> A GREAT AMOUNT OF OUR BELIEFSAND PRACTICES ARE JEWISH.
1917
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:46,639
AND PRACTICES ARE JEWISH.WE HAVE THE HISTORICAL RECORD
1918
01:00:46,641 --> 01:00:48,207
WE HAVE THE HISTORICAL RECORDTHAT COMES FROM THE ORAL
1919
01:00:48,209 --> 01:00:50,276
THAT COMES FROM THE ORALHISTORY.
1920
01:00:50,278 --> 01:00:51,244
HISTORY.>> narrator: BUT WILL THEY HAVE
1921
01:00:51,246 --> 01:00:54,614
>> narrator: BUT WILL THEY HAVETHE BLOOD EVIDENCE?
1922
01:00:54,616 --> 01:00:59,752
WHEN IT COMES DOWN TOARCHAEOLOGY PROVING AN ANCIENT
1923
01:00:59,754 --> 01:01:00,686
ARCHAEOLOGY PROVING AN ANCIENTHEBREW MIGRATION TO
1924
01:01:00,688 --> 01:01:02,488
HEBREW MIGRATION TOTHE UNITED STATES,
1925
01:01:02,490 --> 01:01:06,259
THE UNITED STATES,SUCH PROOF IS HARD TO COME BY.
1926
01:01:06,261 --> 01:01:08,227
SUCH PROOF IS HARD TO COME BY.NEW MEXICO STATE ARCHAEOLOGIST
1927
01:01:08,229 --> 01:01:09,328
NEW MEXICO STATE ARCHAEOLOGISTDAVID ECK HAS LED
1928
01:01:09,330 --> 01:01:10,496
DAVID ECK HAS LEDMORE THAN HIS SHARE OF PEOPLE
1929
01:01:10,498 --> 01:01:12,165
MORE THAN HIS SHARE OF PEOPLEINTO THE LOS LUNAS DESERT
1930
01:01:12,167 --> 01:01:13,766
INTO THE LOS LUNAS DESERTTO LOOK AT THIS STONE
1931
01:01:13,768 --> 01:01:15,268
TO LOOK AT THIS STONEETCHED WITH THE TEN COMMANDMENTS
1932
01:01:15,270 --> 01:01:16,702
ETCHED WITH THE TEN COMMANDMENTSIN WHAT APPEARS TO BE
1933
01:01:16,704 --> 01:01:18,137
IN WHAT APPEARS TO BEPALEO-HEBREW.
1934
01:01:18,139 --> 01:01:20,173
PALEO-HEBREW.IT'S JUST ONE OF SEVERAL STONES
1935
01:01:20,175 --> 01:01:21,340
IT'S JUST ONE OF SEVERAL STONESIN THE UNITED STATES
1936
01:01:21,342 --> 01:01:23,276
IN THE UNITED STATESPEOPLE CLAIM IS EVIDENCE OF
1937
01:01:23,278 --> 01:01:25,778
PEOPLE CLAIM IS EVIDENCE OFAN ANCIENT ISRAELITE MIGRATION.
1938
01:01:25,780 --> 01:01:27,413
AN ANCIENT ISRAELITE MIGRATION.>> THERE ARE MANY THEORIES ABOUT
1939
01:01:27,415 --> 01:01:29,649
>> THERE ARE MANY THEORIES ABOUTWHAT THE STONE IS, ALL THE WAY
1940
01:01:29,651 --> 01:01:31,017
WHAT THE STONE IS, ALL THE WAYFROM EXTRATERRESTRIALS CARVING
1941
01:01:31,019 --> 01:01:32,785
FROM EXTRATERRESTRIALS CARVINGA MESSAGE FOR HUMANITY
1942
01:01:32,787 --> 01:01:34,520
A MESSAGE FOR HUMANITYTO LOST TRIBES OF ISRAEL
1943
01:01:34,522 --> 01:01:35,421
TO LOST TRIBES OF ISRAELWANDERING THE DESERTS OF
1944
01:01:35,423 --> 01:01:37,423
WANDERING THE DESERTS OFTHE AMERICAN SOUTHWEST.
1945
01:01:37,425 --> 01:01:39,759
THE AMERICAN SOUTHWEST.>> LOOKING AT THIS THING,
1946
01:01:39,761 --> 01:01:41,060
>> LOOKING AT THIS THING,ONE OF THE THINGS THAT JUMPS OUT
1947
01:01:41,062 --> 01:01:42,762
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT JUMPS OUTRIGHT AWAY IS,
1948
01:01:42,764 --> 01:01:44,530
RIGHT AWAY IS,THESE CHARACTERS LOOK
1949
01:01:44,532 --> 01:01:47,166
THESE CHARACTERS LOOKRELATIVELY FRESH.
1950
01:01:47,168 --> 01:01:48,167
RELATIVELY FRESH.>> narrator: PRACTICALLY SINCE
1951
01:01:48,169 --> 01:01:49,168
>> narrator: PRACTICALLY SINCEITS DISCOVERY IN THE EARLY
1952
01:01:49,170 --> 01:01:51,404
ITS DISCOVERY IN THE EARLY1900s, THE STONE HAS BEEN
1953
01:01:51,406 --> 01:01:52,872
1900s, THE STONE HAS BEENSUBJECT TO VANDALISM,
1954
01:01:52,874 --> 01:01:53,806
SUBJECT TO VANDALISM,PEOPLE SCRATCHING
1955
01:01:53,808 --> 01:01:55,308
PEOPLE SCRATCHINGTHE INSCRIPTION,
1956
01:01:55,310 --> 01:01:58,544
THE INSCRIPTION,EVEN ADDING TO IT IN SOME CASES.
1957
01:01:58,546 --> 01:02:01,280
EVEN ADDING TO IT IN SOME CASES.>> THIS MARK HAS BEEN ALTERED.
1958
01:02:01,282 --> 01:02:03,516
>> THIS MARK HAS BEEN ALTERED.AS FAR AS I KNOW, NO WORK HAS
1959
01:02:03,518 --> 01:02:04,517
AS FAR AS I KNOW, NO WORK HASBEEN DONE TRYING TO DATE
1960
01:02:04,519 --> 01:02:06,586
BEEN DONE TRYING TO DATETHE INSCRIPTION BECAUSE THERE
1961
01:02:06,588 --> 01:02:07,853
THE INSCRIPTION BECAUSE THEREARE VERY FEW METHODS
1962
01:02:07,855 --> 01:02:08,888
ARE VERY FEW METHODSTHAT I KNOW OF THAT WOULD
1963
01:02:08,890 --> 01:02:10,323
THAT I KNOW OF THAT WOULDEVEN ALLOW THE POSSIBILITY
1964
01:02:10,325 --> 01:02:11,357
EVEN ALLOW THE POSSIBILITYOF DATING.
1965
01:02:11,359 --> 01:02:12,224
OF DATING.WE'RE HOPING THAT TODAY
1966
01:02:12,226 --> 01:02:13,993
WE'RE HOPING THAT TODAYWE'LL FIND OUT SOME OF THOSE
1967
01:02:13,995 --> 01:02:16,862
WE'LL FIND OUT SOME OF THOSEPOSSIBILITIES.
1968
01:02:16,864 --> 01:02:18,030
POSSIBILITIES.>> narrator: THE STATE AGREED
1969
01:02:18,032 --> 01:02:19,565
>> narrator: THE STATE AGREEDTO ALLOW FORENSIC PETROGRAPHER
1970
01:02:19,567 --> 01:02:21,200
TO ALLOW FORENSIC PETROGRAPHERSCOTT WOLTER TO PERFORM
1971
01:02:21,202 --> 01:02:23,336
SCOTT WOLTER TO PERFORMNONINVASIVE TESTING TO HOPEFULLY
1972
01:02:23,338 --> 01:02:25,004
NONINVASIVE TESTING TO HOPEFULLYPROVE WHEN THIS STONE
1973
01:02:25,006 --> 01:02:27,573
PROVE WHEN THIS STONEWAS CARVED.
1974
01:02:27,575 --> 01:02:28,574
WAS CARVED.>> WHAT WE NEED TO DO
1975
01:02:28,576 --> 01:02:30,376
>> WHAT WE NEED TO DOIS TRY TO FIND SOME
1976
01:02:30,378 --> 01:02:32,945
IS TRY TO FIND SOMEORIGINAL MARKS, LIKE MAYBE HERE.
1977
01:02:32,947 --> 01:02:33,946
ORIGINAL MARKS, LIKE MAYBE HERE.THIS LOOKS LIKE THEY MAY HAVE
1978
01:02:33,948 --> 01:02:37,016
THIS LOOKS LIKE THEY MAY HAVELEFT THIS AREA ALONE.
1979
01:02:37,018 --> 01:02:38,017
LEFT THIS AREA ALONE.>> narrator: WOLTER PHOTOGRAPHS
1980
01:02:38,019 --> 01:02:39,719
>> narrator: WOLTER PHOTOGRAPHSTHE STONE WITH A CAMERA
1981
01:02:39,721 --> 01:02:41,020
THE STONE WITH A CAMERAOUTFITTED AS A PORTABLE
1982
01:02:41,022 --> 01:02:42,822
OUTFITTED AS A PORTABLEMICROSCOPE.
1983
01:02:42,824 --> 01:02:44,423
MICROSCOPE.>> BY NATURE, MY WORK IS
1984
01:02:44,425 --> 01:02:45,891
>> BY NATURE, MY WORK ISINVASIVE, BUT IN THIS CASE,
1985
01:02:45,893 --> 01:02:46,826
INVASIVE, BUT IN THIS CASE,IT HAS TO BE TOTALLY
1986
01:02:46,828 --> 01:02:47,827
IT HAS TO BE TOTALLYNONINVASIVE.
1987
01:02:47,829 --> 01:02:48,828
NONINVASIVE.WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS,
1988
01:02:48,830 --> 01:02:50,730
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS,YOU SEE THIS WEATHERED SURFACE?
1989
01:02:50,732 --> 01:02:52,031
YOU SEE THIS WEATHERED SURFACE?IT'D BE NICE TO GET A PIECE
1990
01:02:52,033 --> 01:02:54,934
IT'D BE NICE TO GET A PIECETHAT I COULD CUT INTO AND LOOK
1991
01:02:54,936 --> 01:02:56,402
THAT I COULD CUT INTO AND LOOKAT THAT WEATHERING PROFILE.
1992
01:02:56,404 --> 01:02:58,037
AT THAT WEATHERING PROFILE.AND I'M JUST PICKING OUT A PIECE
1993
01:02:58,039 --> 01:03:00,139
AND I'M JUST PICKING OUT A PIECERIGHT HERE.
1994
01:03:00,141 --> 01:03:03,109
RIGHT HERE.THIS ONE KIND OF HAS
1995
01:03:03,111 --> 01:03:05,611
THIS ONE KIND OF HASA SIMILAR LOOK TO IT.
1996
01:03:05,613 --> 01:03:06,445
A SIMILAR LOOK TO IT.>> IT LOOKS VERY SIMILAR.
1997
01:03:06,447 --> 01:03:07,313
>> IT LOOKS VERY SIMILAR.>> YEAH.
1998
01:03:07,315 --> 01:03:08,614
>> YEAH.>> I SEE NO CARVINGS ON IT.
1999
01:03:08,616 --> 01:03:10,049
>> I SEE NO CARVINGS ON IT.THAT WOULD BE THE SAMPLE.
2000
01:03:10,051 --> 01:03:10,883
THAT WOULD BE THE SAMPLE.>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
2001
01:03:10,885 --> 01:03:13,853
>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.THAT'LL WORK.
2002
01:03:13,855 --> 01:03:15,187
THAT'LL WORK.>> narrator: BACK IN THE LAB,
2003
01:03:15,189 --> 01:03:16,956
>> narrator: BACK IN THE LAB,THE MOMENT OF TRUTH.
2004
01:03:16,958 --> 01:03:19,792
THE MOMENT OF TRUTH.CAN THE INSCRIPTION BE DATED?
2005
01:03:19,794 --> 01:03:21,127
CAN THE INSCRIPTION BE DATED?WOLTER COMPARES THE SAMPLE
2006
01:03:21,129 --> 01:03:22,862
WOLTER COMPARES THE SAMPLEWITH THE PHOTOS HE TOOK
2007
01:03:22,864 --> 01:03:23,863
WITH THE PHOTOS HE TOOKAND WITH PHOTOS TAKEN
2008
01:03:23,865 --> 01:03:25,297
AND WITH PHOTOS TAKENBY OTHERS MANY YEARS AGO
2009
01:03:25,299 --> 01:03:26,632
BY OTHERS MANY YEARS AGOIN AN ATTEMPT TO USE
2010
01:03:26,634 --> 01:03:27,666
IN AN ATTEMPT TO USETHE WEATHERING PERIOD
2011
01:03:27,668 --> 01:03:28,667
THE WEATHERING PERIODOF EXPOSED MINERALS IN
2012
01:03:28,669 --> 01:03:31,103
OF EXPOSED MINERALS INTHE INSCRIPTION TO DATE IT.
2013
01:03:31,105 --> 01:03:32,271
THE INSCRIPTION TO DATE IT.>> ARE THERE FEATURES THAT I SEE
2014
01:03:32,273 --> 01:03:33,406
>> ARE THERE FEATURES THAT I SEEON THIS THAT WOULD LEAD ME TO
2015
01:03:33,408 --> 01:03:36,242
ON THIS THAT WOULD LEAD ME TOBELIEVE THAT IT'S MORE LIKELY
2016
01:03:36,244 --> 01:03:37,309
BELIEVE THAT IT'S MORE LIKELYOF RECENT AGE AS OPPOSED
2017
01:03:37,311 --> 01:03:38,644
OF RECENT AGE AS OPPOSEDTO BEING OLD?
2018
01:03:38,646 --> 01:03:40,112
TO BEING OLD?I WOULD SAY NO.
2019
01:03:40,114 --> 01:03:40,980
I WOULD SAY NO.I DON'T THINK YOU CAN MAKE
2020
01:03:40,982 --> 01:03:43,215
I DON'T THINK YOU CAN MAKEA CONCLUSION THAT WAY.
2021
01:03:43,217 --> 01:03:44,083
A CONCLUSION THAT WAY.>> narrator: THE VANDALISM
2022
01:03:44,085 --> 01:03:45,651
>> narrator: THE VANDALISMOF THE INSCRIPTION IS TOO SEVERE
2023
01:03:45,653 --> 01:03:47,019
OF THE INSCRIPTION IS TOO SEVEREFOR GEOLOGY TO CONCLUDE
2024
01:03:47,021 --> 01:03:50,823
FOR GEOLOGY TO CONCLUDEWHEN IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN CARVED.
2025
01:03:50,825 --> 01:03:52,758
WHEN IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN CARVED.>> THE FACT THAT THE STONE HAS
2026
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:54,860
>> THE FACT THAT THE STONE HASBEEN CLEANED AND RETOOLED
2027
01:03:54,862 --> 01:03:56,829
BEEN CLEANED AND RETOOLEDAND WHO KNOWS WHAT DONE TO IT,
2028
01:03:56,831 --> 01:03:58,664
AND WHO KNOWS WHAT DONE TO IT,THAT'S NOT HELPFUL.
2029
01:03:58,666 --> 01:04:01,133
THAT'S NOT HELPFUL.>> PEOPLE WANT TO BELIEVE, AND
2030
01:04:01,135 --> 01:04:02,935
>> PEOPLE WANT TO BELIEVE, ANDAS SOON AS THEY WANT TO BELIEVE,
2031
01:04:02,937 --> 01:04:05,805
AS SOON AS THEY WANT TO BELIEVE,THEY STOP THINKING.
2032
01:04:05,807 --> 01:04:06,972
THEY STOP THINKING.>> narrator: ANOTHER STONE
2033
01:04:06,974 --> 01:04:08,440
>> narrator: ANOTHER STONEWITH A MYSTERIOUS SEEMINGLY
2034
01:04:08,442 --> 01:04:10,442
WITH A MYSTERIOUS SEEMINGLYHEBREW INSCRIPTION WAS FOUND
2035
01:04:10,444 --> 01:04:12,178
HEBREW INSCRIPTION WAS FOUNDHERE, ALONG THE BAT CREEK
2036
01:04:12,180 --> 01:04:15,281
HERE, ALONG THE BAT CREEKIN EASTERN TENNESSEE.
2037
01:04:15,283 --> 01:04:16,749
IN EASTERN TENNESSEE.SOME SAY THE INSCRIPTION
2038
01:04:16,751 --> 01:04:19,351
SOME SAY THE INSCRIPTIONTRANSLATES TO "FOR JUDEA,"
2039
01:04:19,353 --> 01:04:22,288
TRANSLATES TO "FOR JUDEA,"A REFERENCE TO ANCIENT ISRAEL.
2040
01:04:22,290 --> 01:04:24,290
A REFERENCE TO ANCIENT ISRAEL.IT WAS FOUND 1889,
2041
01:04:24,292 --> 01:04:25,791
IT WAS FOUND 1889,ALONG WITH WOOD FRAGMENTS
2042
01:04:25,793 --> 01:04:27,359
ALONG WITH WOOD FRAGMENTSTHAT WERE CARBON-14 DATED
2043
01:04:27,361 --> 01:04:28,961
THAT WERE CARBON-14 DATEDTO SOME TIME BETWEEN THE FIRST
2044
01:04:28,963 --> 01:04:31,330
TO SOME TIME BETWEEN THE FIRSTAND EIGHTH CENTURY A.D.
2045
01:04:31,332 --> 01:04:33,365
AND EIGHTH CENTURY A.D.IT WAS FOUND IN A CHEROKEE
2046
01:04:33,367 --> 01:04:35,201
IT WAS FOUND IN A CHEROKEEBURIAL MOUND.
2047
01:04:35,203 --> 01:04:37,336
BURIAL MOUND.>> THE ARTIFACTS THAT HAVE BEEN
2048
01:04:37,338 --> 01:04:40,139
>> THE ARTIFACTS THAT HAVE BEENFOUND IN THIS AREA WHERE THE
2049
01:04:40,141 --> 01:04:42,208
FOUND IN THIS AREA WHERE THECHEROKEE PEOPLE LIVE ARE VERY
2050
01:04:42,210 --> 01:04:44,944
CHEROKEE PEOPLE LIVE ARE VERYIMPORTANT TO US BECAUSE OF OUR
2051
01:04:44,946 --> 01:04:48,113
IMPORTANT TO US BECAUSE OF OURHERITAGE GOING BACK TO THE SAME
2052
01:04:48,115 --> 01:04:50,216
HERITAGE GOING BACK TO THE SAMEPEOPLE THAT BECAME THE CHEROKEE
2053
01:04:50,218 --> 01:04:52,551
PEOPLE THAT BECAME THE CHEROKEEKNOWN TODAY.
2054
01:04:52,553 --> 01:04:53,719
KNOWN TODAY.>> narrator: EXCEPT
2055
01:04:53,721 --> 01:04:56,188
>> narrator: EXCEPTFAMILY TREE DNA SAYS THE RESULTS
2056
01:04:56,190 --> 01:04:57,756
FAMILY TREE DNA SAYS THE RESULTSOF CHIEF SITTING OWL'S TESTS
2057
01:04:57,758 --> 01:04:59,725
OF CHIEF SITTING OWL'S TESTSARE IN, AND THEY ARE PROBLEMATIC
2058
01:04:59,727 --> 01:05:02,361
ARE IN, AND THEY ARE PROBLEMATICIN PROVING JEWISH ANCESTRY.
2059
01:05:02,363 --> 01:05:04,396
IN PROVING JEWISH ANCESTRY.>> AS FAR AS TESTING HAS
2060
01:05:04,398 --> 01:05:06,932
>> AS FAR AS TESTING HASBEEN DONE WITH US, I SEE
2061
01:05:06,934 --> 01:05:10,369
BEEN DONE WITH US, I SEENO CONNECTION TO ANY ANCIENT
2062
01:05:10,371 --> 01:05:12,738
NO CONNECTION TO ANY ANCIENTHEBRAIC OR JEWISH POPULATIONS
2063
01:05:12,740 --> 01:05:14,873
HEBRAIC OR JEWISH POPULATIONSWHATSOEVER.
2064
01:05:14,875 --> 01:05:16,175
WHATSOEVER.>> narrator: OF ALL THE MEMBERS
2065
01:05:16,177 --> 01:05:17,743
>> narrator: OF ALL THE MEMBERSOF THE CENTRAL BAND OF CHEROKEE
2066
01:05:17,745 --> 01:05:20,212
OF THE CENTRAL BAND OF CHEROKEEWHO WERE TESTED, ONLY 3% SHOW
2067
01:05:20,214 --> 01:05:22,982
WHO WERE TESTED, ONLY 3% SHOWANY JEWISH ANCESTRY, NOT ENOUGH
2068
01:05:22,984 --> 01:05:24,550
ANY JEWISH ANCESTRY, NOT ENOUGHTO PROVE AN ANCIENT HEBREW
2069
01:05:24,552 --> 01:05:25,818
TO PROVE AN ANCIENT HEBREWHERITAGE FOR THE PEOPLE IN
2070
01:05:25,820 --> 01:05:29,455
HERITAGE FOR THE PEOPLE INCHIEF SITTING OWL'S TRIBE.
2071
01:05:29,457 --> 01:05:31,757
CHIEF SITTING OWL'S TRIBE.>> WILL WE EVER FIND THE FULL
2072
01:05:31,759 --> 01:05:34,193
>> WILL WE EVER FIND THE FULLBLOODLINE OF THE CHEROKEE
2073
01:05:34,195 --> 01:05:35,828
BLOODLINE OF THE CHEROKEEPEOPLE?
2074
01:05:35,830 --> 01:05:38,197
PEOPLE?YES.
2075
01:05:38,199 --> 01:05:39,264
YES.>> narrator: CHIEF SITTING OWL'S
2076
01:05:39,266 --> 01:05:40,866
>> narrator: CHIEF SITTING OWL'STRIBE ONLY REPRESENTS WHAT
2077
01:05:40,868 --> 01:05:43,035
TRIBE ONLY REPRESENTS WHATHE SAYS IS A SMALL NUMBER
2078
01:05:43,037 --> 01:05:45,838
HE SAYS IS A SMALL NUMBEROF CHEROKEE, LESS THAN 1%.
2079
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:47,439
OF CHEROKEE, LESS THAN 1%.THE CENTRAL BAND ITSELF IS NOT
2080
01:05:47,441 --> 01:05:48,607
THE CENTRAL BAND ITSELF IS NOTONE OF THE THREE FEDERALLY
2081
01:05:48,609 --> 01:05:51,176
ONE OF THE THREE FEDERALLYRECOGNIZED TRIBES OF CHEROKEE,
2082
01:05:51,178 --> 01:05:52,878
RECOGNIZED TRIBES OF CHEROKEE,ALTHOUGH THE BUREAU OF INDIAN
2083
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:54,546
ALTHOUGH THE BUREAU OF INDIANAFFAIRS OPENLY ACKNOWLEDGES
2084
01:05:54,548 --> 01:05:55,914
AFFAIRS OPENLY ACKNOWLEDGESTHERE ARE MANY PEOPLE WITH
2085
01:05:55,916 --> 01:05:57,816
THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE WITHCHEROKEE ANCESTRY THAT'S HARD
2086
01:05:57,818 --> 01:06:00,519
CHEROKEE ANCESTRY THAT'S HARDTO TRACE.
2087
01:06:00,521 --> 01:06:01,820
TO TRACE.>> WE HAVE A VERY UNIQUE
2088
01:06:01,822 --> 01:06:03,989
>> WE HAVE A VERY UNIQUESITUATION HERE IN THE CENTRAL
2089
01:06:03,991 --> 01:06:05,290
SITUATION HERE IN THE CENTRALBAND OF CHEROKEE.
2090
01:06:05,292 --> 01:06:07,559
BAND OF CHEROKEE.WE WERE ISOLATED FROM THE MAIN
2091
01:06:07,561 --> 01:06:09,795
WE WERE ISOLATED FROM THE MAINBODY OF THE CHEROKEE IN NORTH
2092
01:06:09,797 --> 01:06:13,065
BODY OF THE CHEROKEE IN NORTHCAROLINA AND NORTH GEORGIA.
2093
01:06:13,067 --> 01:06:14,099
CAROLINA AND NORTH GEORGIA.>> narrator: DNA TESTING
2094
01:06:14,101 --> 01:06:15,300
>> narrator: DNA TESTINGOF MORE MEMBERS OF THE CENTRAL
2095
01:06:15,302 --> 01:06:17,102
OF MORE MEMBERS OF THE CENTRALBAND IS JUST GETTING UNDER WAY
2096
01:06:17,104 --> 01:06:17,970
BAND IS JUST GETTING UNDER WAYIN WHAT'S CALLED
2097
01:06:17,972 --> 01:06:20,439
IN WHAT'S CALLEDTHE ABRAHAM/MOSES PROJECT.
2098
01:06:20,441 --> 01:06:22,107
THE ABRAHAM/MOSES PROJECT.SOME MEMBERS OF THE EASTERN
2099
01:06:22,109 --> 01:06:23,375
SOME MEMBERS OF THE EASTERNBAND OF CHEROKEE, A TRIBE
2100
01:06:23,377 --> 01:06:25,110
BAND OF CHEROKEE, A TRIBETHAT IS FEDERALLY RECOGNIZED,
2101
01:06:25,112 --> 01:06:26,545
THAT IS FEDERALLY RECOGNIZED,ARE VERY INTERESTED IN THE
2102
01:06:26,547 --> 01:06:28,080
ARE VERY INTERESTED IN THERESULTS BECAUSE THEY TOO
2103
01:06:28,082 --> 01:06:30,649
RESULTS BECAUSE THEY TOOSUSPECT A JEWISH ANCESTRY.
2104
01:06:30,651 --> 01:06:32,084
SUSPECT A JEWISH ANCESTRY.EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT JEWISH,
2105
01:06:32,086 --> 01:06:33,652
EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT JEWISH,CHIEF SITTING OWL SAYS
2106
01:06:33,654 --> 01:06:35,320
CHIEF SITTING OWL SAYSTHE TEST RESULTS FOR HIS TRIBE
2107
01:06:35,322 --> 01:06:37,456
THE TEST RESULTS FOR HIS TRIBEARE STILL VERY INTERESTING
2108
01:06:37,458 --> 01:06:38,991
ARE STILL VERY INTERESTINGIN PROVING WHO CAME TO AMERICA
2109
01:06:38,993 --> 01:06:41,627
IN PROVING WHO CAME TO AMERICABEFORE COLUMBUS AND HOW.
2110
01:06:41,629 --> 01:06:43,195
BEFORE COLUMBUS AND HOW.>> OUR CHEROKEE DNA PROJECT
2111
01:06:43,197 --> 01:06:46,465
>> OUR CHEROKEE DNA PROJECTHAS PROVEN THAT THE CHEROKEE DID
2112
01:06:46,467 --> 01:06:49,368
HAS PROVEN THAT THE CHEROKEE DIDNOT COME ACROSS THE BERING SEA.
2113
01:06:49,370 --> 01:06:50,969
NOT COME ACROSS THE BERING SEA.>> narrator: 94% OF THOSE
2114
01:06:50,971 --> 01:06:53,072
>> narrator: 94% OF THOSETESTED IN THE CENTRAL BAND
2115
01:06:53,074 --> 01:06:54,540
TESTED IN THE CENTRAL BANDSHOWED EUROPEAN ANCESTRY
2116
01:06:54,542 --> 01:06:56,375
SHOWED EUROPEAN ANCESTRYGOING BACK THOUSANDS OF YEARS.
2117
01:06:56,377 --> 01:06:59,945
GOING BACK THOUSANDS OF YEARS.EXACTLY HOW FAR BACK IS UNKNOWN.
2118
01:06:59,947 --> 01:07:01,013
EXACTLY HOW FAR BACK IS UNKNOWN.THAT COULD MEAN THEY AREN'T
2119
01:07:01,015 --> 01:07:02,014
THAT COULD MEAN THEY AREN'TCHEROKEE AT ALL.
2120
01:07:02,016 --> 01:07:03,615
CHEROKEE AT ALL.IT COULD ALSO MEAN THEY MIXED
2121
01:07:03,617 --> 01:07:04,983
IT COULD ALSO MEAN THEY MIXEDHEAVILY WITH WHITE SETTLERS
2122
01:07:04,985 --> 01:07:07,486
HEAVILY WITH WHITE SETTLERSIN THE NEW WORLD, OR IT COULD
2123
01:07:07,488 --> 01:07:08,487
IN THE NEW WORLD, OR IT COULDMEAN THEY ARE DESCENDENTS
2124
01:07:08,489 --> 01:07:10,989
MEAN THEY ARE DESCENDENTSOF EUROPEANS WHO WERE HERE EVEN
2125
01:07:10,991 --> 01:07:12,858
OF EUROPEANS WHO WERE HERE EVENBEFORE PALEO-INDIANS CROSSED
2126
01:07:12,860 --> 01:07:16,094
BEFORE PALEO-INDIANS CROSSEDTHE BERING STRAIT.
2127
01:07:16,096 --> 01:07:17,729
THE BERING STRAIT.IN A BOLD NEW THEORY,
2128
01:07:17,731 --> 01:07:19,665
IN A BOLD NEW THEORY,A SMITHSONIAN ARCHAEOLOGIST
2129
01:07:19,667 --> 01:07:21,500
A SMITHSONIAN ARCHAEOLOGISTSUGGESTS THE PEOPLE WHO CAME
2130
01:07:21,502 --> 01:07:23,502
SUGGESTS THE PEOPLE WHO CAMEFROM ASIA LEARNED TO MAKE THEIR
2131
01:07:23,504 --> 01:07:25,871
FROM ASIA LEARNED TO MAKE THEIRTOOLS FROM EUROPEANS WHO WERE
2132
01:07:25,873 --> 01:07:27,873
TOOLS FROM EUROPEANS WHO WEREALREADY HERE MORE THAN
2133
01:07:27,875 --> 01:07:30,342
ALREADY HERE MORE THAN20,000 YEARS AGO.
2134
01:07:30,344 --> 01:07:40,519
>> narrator: 22,000 B.C.,23,492 YEARS BEFORE COLUMBUS.
2135
01:07:40,521 --> 01:07:42,387
23,492 YEARS BEFORE COLUMBUS.IT'S THE ICE AGE, AND MUCH
2136
01:07:42,389 --> 01:07:44,490
IT'S THE ICE AGE, AND MUCHOF THE EARTH'S WATER IS FROZEN,
2137
01:07:44,492 --> 01:07:46,458
OF THE EARTH'S WATER IS FROZEN,MAKING SEA LEVELS WORLDWIDE
2138
01:07:46,460 --> 01:07:49,027
MAKING SEA LEVELS WORLDWIDE450 FEET LOWER.
2139
01:07:49,029 --> 01:07:50,496
450 FEET LOWER.IT'S STILL THOUSANDS OF YEARS
2140
01:07:50,498 --> 01:07:52,397
IT'S STILL THOUSANDS OF YEARSBEFORE PALEO-INDIANS WILL CROSS
2141
01:07:52,399 --> 01:07:54,166
BEFORE PALEO-INDIANS WILL CROSSTHE BERING STRAIT LAND BRIDGE
2142
01:07:54,168 --> 01:07:56,735
THE BERING STRAIT LAND BRIDGEFROM SIBERIA INTO NORTH AMERICA,
2143
01:07:56,737 --> 01:07:58,704
FROM SIBERIA INTO NORTH AMERICA,BUT OFF THE COAST OF VIRGINIA,
2144
01:07:58,706 --> 01:08:00,506
BUT OFF THE COAST OF VIRGINIA,SOMEONE WAS HUNTING
2145
01:08:00,508 --> 01:08:03,041
SOMEONE WAS HUNTINGA MASTODON AND LEFT A CLUE
2146
01:08:03,043 --> 01:08:04,710
A MASTODON AND LEFT A CLUETHAT COULD MEAN EUROPEANS
2147
01:08:04,712 --> 01:08:06,912
THAT COULD MEAN EUROPEANSREALLY WERE THE VERY FIRST
2148
01:08:06,914 --> 01:08:08,914
REALLY WERE THE VERY FIRSTTO FIND AMERICA.
2149
01:08:08,916 --> 01:08:10,682
TO FIND AMERICA.>> THIS IS THE OLDEST ARTIFACT
2150
01:08:10,684 --> 01:08:13,685
>> THIS IS THE OLDEST ARTIFACTIN THE AMERICAS.
2151
01:08:13,687 --> 01:08:14,987
IN THE AMERICAS.THIS ARTIFACT DEFINITELY GOES
2152
01:08:14,989 --> 01:08:16,922
THIS ARTIFACT DEFINITELY GOESWITH THAT MASTODON, AND WE HAVE
2153
01:08:16,924 --> 01:08:18,190
WITH THAT MASTODON, AND WE HAVEA DATE ON THAT MASTODON OF
2154
01:08:18,192 --> 01:08:21,226
A DATE ON THAT MASTODON OFALMOST 24,000 YEARS.
2155
01:08:21,228 --> 01:08:22,094
ALMOST 24,000 YEARS.>> narrator: SMITHSONIAN
2156
01:08:22,096 --> 01:08:23,595
>> narrator: SMITHSONIANARCHAEOLOGIST DENNIS STANFORD
2157
01:08:23,597 --> 01:08:24,763
ARCHAEOLOGIST DENNIS STANFORDSAYS THE ARTIFACT,
2158
01:08:24,765 --> 01:08:25,998
SAYS THE ARTIFACT,CALLED A BIFACE,
2159
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:27,399
CALLED A BIFACE,LOOKS JUST LIKE THE ONES
2160
01:08:27,401 --> 01:08:29,201
LOOKS JUST LIKE THE ONESSOLUTREANS MADE.
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01:08:29,203 --> 01:08:30,102
SOLUTREANS MADE.THE SOLUTREANS WERE
2162
01:08:30,104 --> 01:08:31,670
THE SOLUTREANS WEREHUNTER-GATHERERS IN SOUTHWESTERN
2163
01:08:31,672 --> 01:08:35,173
HUNTER-GATHERERS IN SOUTHWESTERNEUROPE IN 22,000 B.C.
2164
01:08:35,175 --> 01:08:36,808
EUROPE IN 22,000 B.C.STANFORD HYPOTHESIZES
2165
01:08:36,810 --> 01:08:38,944
STANFORD HYPOTHESIZESTHE SOLUTREANS USED SKIN BOATS
2166
01:08:38,946 --> 01:08:40,212
THE SOLUTREANS USED SKIN BOATSTO REACH AMERICA ALONG
2167
01:08:40,214 --> 01:08:42,180
TO REACH AMERICA ALONGTHE POLAR ICE FRONT, WHICH
2168
01:08:42,182 --> 01:08:43,949
THE POLAR ICE FRONT, WHICHEXTENDED MUCH FURTHER SOUTH
2169
01:08:43,951 --> 01:08:46,251
EXTENDED MUCH FURTHER SOUTHDURING THE ICE AGE.
2170
01:08:46,253 --> 01:08:47,586
DURING THE ICE AGE.>> IF YOU HAVE A BOAT,
2171
01:08:47,588 --> 01:08:49,755
>> IF YOU HAVE A BOAT,IT CHANGES A LOT OF THINGS.
2172
01:08:49,757 --> 01:08:52,524
IT CHANGES A LOT OF THINGS.IT MEANS THAT RIVERS, LAKES,
2173
01:08:52,526 --> 01:08:54,459
IT MEANS THAT RIVERS, LAKES,OCEANS ARE NO LONGER BARRIERS
2174
01:08:54,461 --> 01:08:56,295
OCEANS ARE NO LONGER BARRIERSTO HUMAN MOVEMENT BUT ARE
2175
01:08:56,297 --> 01:08:59,464
TO HUMAN MOVEMENT BUT ARETHE HIGHWAYS OF HUMAN MOVEMENT.
2176
01:08:59,466 --> 01:09:00,732
THE HIGHWAYS OF HUMAN MOVEMENT.>> narrator: THE ICE EDGE THEY
2177
01:09:00,734 --> 01:09:02,100
>> narrator: THE ICE EDGE THEYFOLLOWED WOULD HAVE BEEN A PLACE
2178
01:09:02,102 --> 01:09:03,969
FOLLOWED WOULD HAVE BEEN A PLACETO CAMP AND HUNT SEAL
2179
01:09:03,971 --> 01:09:05,437
TO CAMP AND HUNT SEALFOR THEIR FAT.
2180
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:07,072
FOR THEIR FAT.>> IF YOU HAVE FAT,
2181
01:09:07,074 --> 01:09:08,540
>> IF YOU HAVE FAT,YOU HAVE FOOD.
2182
01:09:08,542 --> 01:09:09,975
YOU HAVE FOOD.YOU HAVE WATERPROOFING.
2183
01:09:09,977 --> 01:09:12,377
YOU HAVE WATERPROOFING.YOU HAVE A SOURCE FOR FIRE.
2184
01:09:12,379 --> 01:09:14,046
YOU HAVE A SOURCE FOR FIRE.IT'S REALLY A KEY ISSUE
2185
01:09:14,048 --> 01:09:16,381
IT'S REALLY A KEY ISSUETHAT YOU NEED.
2186
01:09:16,383 --> 01:09:17,716
THAT YOU NEED.>> narrator: STANFORD SAYS
2187
01:09:17,718 --> 01:09:18,717
>> narrator: STANFORD SAYSONCE THE SOLUTREANS WERE
2188
01:09:18,719 --> 01:09:20,652
ONCE THE SOLUTREANS WEREIN AMERICA, THEY EVENTUALLY
2189
01:09:20,654 --> 01:09:22,621
IN AMERICA, THEY EVENTUALLYCONVERGED WITH PALEO-INDIANS
2190
01:09:22,623 --> 01:09:23,989
CONVERGED WITH PALEO-INDIANSWHO DID COME ACROSS
2191
01:09:23,991 --> 01:09:25,123
WHO DID COME ACROSSTHE BERING STRAIT LAND BRIDGE
2192
01:09:25,125 --> 01:09:26,758
THE BERING STRAIT LAND BRIDGEFROM SIBERIA.
2193
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:28,660
FROM SIBERIA.TOGETHER, HE SAYS, THE
2194
01:09:28,662 --> 01:09:29,961
TOGETHER, HE SAYS, THETWO GROUPS FORMED WHAT'S CALLED
2195
01:09:29,963 --> 01:09:31,496
TWO GROUPS FORMED WHAT'S CALLEDTHE CLOVIS CULTURE.
2196
01:09:31,498 --> 01:09:32,998
THE CLOVIS CULTURE.HE SAYS THEIR CONVERGENCE
2197
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:34,633
HE SAYS THEIR CONVERGENCEIS THE ONLY WAY TO EXPLAIN
2198
01:09:34,635 --> 01:09:36,101
IS THE ONLY WAY TO EXPLAINUNIQUE CHARACTERISTICS
2199
01:09:36,103 --> 01:09:37,235
UNIQUE CHARACTERISTICSOF CLOVIS STONE TOOLS
2200
01:09:37,237 --> 01:09:40,772
OF CLOVIS STONE TOOLSFOUND THROUGHOUT THE AMERICAS.
2201
01:09:40,774 --> 01:09:42,441
FOUND THROUGHOUT THE AMERICAS.>> THIS IS A BLADE CORE,
2202
01:09:42,443 --> 01:09:44,342
>> THIS IS A BLADE CORE,A CLOVIS BLADE CORE.
2203
01:09:44,344 --> 01:09:47,012
A CLOVIS BLADE CORE.IT'S MADE IDENTICALLY TO THOSE
2204
01:09:47,014 --> 01:09:50,248
IT'S MADE IDENTICALLY TO THOSEOF THE SOLUTREAN TIME PERIOD.
2205
01:09:50,250 --> 01:09:52,284
OF THE SOLUTREAN TIME PERIOD.THERE WERE MANY, MANY TOOLS
2206
01:09:52,286 --> 01:09:53,151
THERE WERE MANY, MANY TOOLSTHAT WERE ABSOLUTELY
2207
01:09:53,153 --> 01:09:54,920
THAT WERE ABSOLUTELYIDENTICAL AND UNIQUE
2208
01:09:54,922 --> 01:09:57,355
IDENTICAL AND UNIQUETO CLOVIS AND SOLUTREAN
2209
01:09:57,357 --> 01:09:58,824
TO CLOVIS AND SOLUTREANBUT DIFFERENT THAN
2210
01:09:58,826 --> 01:10:01,159
BUT DIFFERENT THANWHAT YOU GET IN SIBERIA.
2211
01:10:01,161 --> 01:10:03,195
WHAT YOU GET IN SIBERIA.THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
2212
01:10:03,197 --> 01:10:04,596
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHINGIN ASIA THAT YOU COULD DERIVE
2213
01:10:04,598 --> 01:10:08,500
IN ASIA THAT YOU COULD DERIVECLOVIS TECHNOLOGY FROM.
2214
01:10:08,502 --> 01:10:09,468
CLOVIS TECHNOLOGY FROM.>> narrator: WHILE STANFORD'S
2215
01:10:09,470 --> 01:10:11,136
>> narrator: WHILE STANFORD'STHEORY THAT EUROPEANS REALLY
2216
01:10:11,138 --> 01:10:12,504
THEORY THAT EUROPEANS REALLYWERE THE FIRST INHABITANTS
2217
01:10:12,506 --> 01:10:14,473
WERE THE FIRST INHABITANTSOF THE NEW WORLD ISN'T WIDELY
2218
01:10:14,475 --> 01:10:18,777
OF THE NEW WORLD ISN'T WIDELYACCEPTED, IT MIGHT BE SOMEDAY.
2219
01:10:18,779 --> 01:10:20,779
ACCEPTED, IT MIGHT BE SOMEDAY.>> I THINK IT'S VERY EXCITING,
2220
01:10:20,781 --> 01:10:22,214
>> I THINK IT'S VERY EXCITING,AND WHETHER WE'RE RIGHT
2221
01:10:22,216 --> 01:10:24,116
AND WHETHER WE'RE RIGHTOR WRONG, IT DOESN'T MAKE
2222
01:10:24,118 --> 01:10:25,050
OR WRONG, IT DOESN'T MAKEANY DIFFERENCE,
2223
01:10:25,052 --> 01:10:26,551
ANY DIFFERENCE,BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE THINKING
2224
01:10:26,553 --> 01:10:27,853
BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE THINKINGABOUT IT.
2225
01:10:27,855 --> 01:10:29,187
ABOUT IT.>> narrator: FOR ARCHAEOLOGICAL
2226
01:10:29,189 --> 01:10:31,823
>> narrator: FOR ARCHAEOLOGICALSTUDIES FROM 13,000 YEARS AGO
2227
01:10:31,825 --> 01:10:33,825
STUDIES FROM 13,000 YEARS AGOOR MORE, STONE TOOLS ARE SOME
2228
01:10:33,827 --> 01:10:36,628
OR MORE, STONE TOOLS ARE SOMEOF THE ONLY THINGS TO COMPARE.
2229
01:10:36,630 --> 01:10:38,330
OF THE ONLY THINGS TO COMPARE.ONCE POTTERY DEVELOPED,
2230
01:10:38,332 --> 01:10:39,865
ONCE POTTERY DEVELOPED,IT BECAME A CRITICAL TOOL
2231
01:10:39,867 --> 01:10:41,233
IT BECAME A CRITICAL TOOLIN LEARNING ABOUT GENERATIONS
2232
01:10:41,235 --> 01:10:42,400
IN LEARNING ABOUT GENERATIONSOF PEOPLE AND HOW
2233
01:10:42,402 --> 01:10:44,669
OF PEOPLE AND HOWTHEIR CIVILIZATIONS EVOLVED.
2234
01:10:44,671 --> 01:10:46,338
THEIR CIVILIZATIONS EVOLVED.MOLDED INTO THIS CLAY
2235
01:10:46,340 --> 01:10:47,639
MOLDED INTO THIS CLAYARE CLUES OF ANOTHER
2236
01:10:47,641 --> 01:10:52,310
ARE CLUES OF ANOTHERPRE-COLUMBIAN VOYAGE TO AMERICA.
2237
01:10:52,312 --> 01:10:56,081
PRE-COLUMBIAN VOYAGE TO AMERICA.ECUADOR, 3044 B.C.,
2238
01:10:56,083 --> 01:11:00,852
ECUADOR, 3044 B.C.,4,536 YEARS BEFORE COLUMBUS.
2239
01:11:00,854 --> 01:11:02,420
4,536 YEARS BEFORE COLUMBUS.ELSEWHERE IN THE WORLD,
2240
01:11:02,422 --> 01:11:03,855
ELSEWHERE IN THE WORLD,STONEHENGE IS RISING
2241
01:11:03,857 --> 01:11:05,757
STONEHENGE IS RISINGIN THE ENGLISH COUNTRYSIDE,
2242
01:11:05,759 --> 01:11:07,492
IN THE ENGLISH COUNTRYSIDE,AND THE FIRST WRITING SYSTEM,
2243
01:11:07,494 --> 01:11:09,361
AND THE FIRST WRITING SYSTEM,CALLED CUNEIFORM, WAS RECENTLY
2244
01:11:09,363 --> 01:11:11,363
CALLED CUNEIFORM, WAS RECENTLYINVENTED IN SUMERIA.
2245
01:11:11,365 --> 01:11:13,098
INVENTED IN SUMERIA.IN ECUADOR, THE COASTLINE
2246
01:11:13,100 --> 01:11:14,933
IN ECUADOR, THE COASTLINECULTURE OF THE VALDIVIANS
2247
01:11:14,935 --> 01:11:16,401
CULTURE OF THE VALDIVIANSIS PRIMITIVE, MADE UP
2248
01:11:16,403 --> 01:11:18,603
IS PRIMITIVE, MADE UPOF HUNTERS AND GATHERERS,
2249
01:11:18,605 --> 01:11:19,671
OF HUNTERS AND GATHERERS,BUT THEY'RE STARTING TO MAKE
2250
01:11:19,673 --> 01:11:20,672
BUT THEY'RE STARTING TO MAKEPOTTERY.
2251
01:11:20,674 --> 01:11:22,107
POTTERY.THE QUESTION IS,
2252
01:11:22,109 --> 01:11:23,108
THE QUESTION IS,WHERE DID THEY LEARN
2253
01:11:23,110 --> 01:11:25,610
WHERE DID THEY LEARNTHEIR SOPHISTICATED TECHNIQUES?
2254
01:11:25,612 --> 01:11:26,878
THEIR SOPHISTICATED TECHNIQUES?>> WE BELIEVE THEY WERE
2255
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:28,780
>> WE BELIEVE THEY WEREA VERY DEVELOPED CULTURE
2256
01:11:28,782 --> 01:11:30,549
A VERY DEVELOPED CULTUREBECAUSE THEY RECEIVED SOME
2257
01:11:30,551 --> 01:11:32,417
BECAUSE THEY RECEIVED SOMEINFLUENCE FROM MORE ADVANCED
2258
01:11:32,419 --> 01:11:34,853
INFLUENCE FROM MORE ADVANCEDCULTURE, AS MY GRANDFATHER SAID,
2259
01:11:34,855 --> 01:11:36,688
CULTURE, AS MY GRANDFATHER SAID,PERHAPS THE JOMON CULTURE
2260
01:11:36,690 --> 01:11:38,557
PERHAPS THE JOMON CULTUREFROM JAPAN.
2261
01:11:38,559 --> 01:11:39,558
FROM JAPAN.>> narrator: EMILIO ESTRADA
2262
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:41,927
>> narrator: EMILIO ESTRADAWAS ALEXIA MOLINA'S GRANDFATHER,
2263
01:11:41,929 --> 01:11:43,929
WAS ALEXIA MOLINA'S GRANDFATHER,A LOCAL MAN WHO COLLECTED
2264
01:11:43,931 --> 01:11:45,363
A LOCAL MAN WHO COLLECTEDFRAGMENTS OF POTTERY DURING
2265
01:11:45,365 --> 01:11:47,599
FRAGMENTS OF POTTERY DURINGHUNTING TRIPS IN VALDIVIA.
2266
01:11:47,601 --> 01:11:49,134
HUNTING TRIPS IN VALDIVIA.>> BIT BY BIT, HE BECAME VERY
2267
01:11:49,136 --> 01:11:50,936
>> BIT BY BIT, HE BECAME VERYINTERESTED IN WHAT THE MEANING
2268
01:11:50,938 --> 01:11:53,305
INTERESTED IN WHAT THE MEANINGOF THESE PIECES WAS.
2269
01:11:53,307 --> 01:11:54,406
OF THESE PIECES WAS.>> narrator: AFTER NOTICING
2270
01:11:54,408 --> 01:11:55,574
>> narrator: AFTER NOTICINGSIMILARITIES BETWEEN THE SHARDS
2271
01:11:55,576 --> 01:11:57,142
SIMILARITIES BETWEEN THE SHARDSHE FOUND AND JAPANESE
2272
01:11:57,144 --> 01:11:59,744
HE FOUND AND JAPANESEJOMON POTTERY CIRCA 4,000 B.C.
2273
01:11:59,746 --> 01:12:01,413
JOMON POTTERY CIRCA 4,000 B.C.HE SAW IN BOOKS,
2274
01:12:01,415 --> 01:12:02,547
HE SAW IN BOOKS,HE WAS CONVINCED OF
2275
01:12:02,549 --> 01:12:03,582
HE WAS CONVINCED OFA CONNECTION.
2276
01:12:03,584 --> 01:12:04,649
A CONNECTION.BUT BEING NO EXPERT
2277
01:12:04,651 --> 01:12:06,885
BUT BEING NO EXPERTIN ARCHAEOLOGY, HE CONTACTED
2278
01:12:06,887 --> 01:12:08,486
IN ARCHAEOLOGY, HE CONTACTEDTHE SMITHSONIAN.
2279
01:12:08,488 --> 01:12:10,422
THE SMITHSONIAN.>> HE WROTE US A LETTER
2280
01:12:10,424 --> 01:12:11,256
>> HE WROTE US A LETTERAND SAID, YOU KNOW,
2281
01:12:11,258 --> 01:12:12,490
AND SAID, YOU KNOW,"I JUST SAW SOME PICTURES
2282
01:12:12,492 --> 01:12:14,993
"I JUST SAW SOME PICTURESOF POTTERY, JOMON,
2283
01:12:14,995 --> 01:12:16,628
OF POTTERY, JOMON,THAT LOOKS LIKE VALDIVIA.
2284
01:12:16,630 --> 01:12:18,396
THAT LOOKS LIKE VALDIVIA.WHAT DO YOU THINK?"
2285
01:12:18,398 --> 01:12:19,264
WHAT DO YOU THINK?">> narrator: IT WAS THE
2286
01:12:19,266 --> 01:12:20,398
>> narrator: IT WAS THEBEGINNING OF A FRIENDSHIP
2287
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:21,466
BEGINNING OF A FRIENDSHIPAND OF WHAT WOULD BECOME
2288
01:12:21,468 --> 01:12:23,068
AND OF WHAT WOULD BECOMEA 50-YEAR PUSH TO PROVE
2289
01:12:23,070 --> 01:12:24,736
A 50-YEAR PUSH TO PROVETHAT THE JAPANESE MADE IT
2290
01:12:24,738 --> 01:12:27,939
THAT THE JAPANESE MADE ITTO AMERICA SOME 4,500 YEARS
2291
01:12:27,941 --> 01:12:31,409
TO AMERICA SOME 4,500 YEARSBEFORE COLUMBUS.
2292
01:12:31,411 --> 01:12:33,578
BEFORE COLUMBUS.>> WE TOOK A BIG STACK OF
2293
01:12:33,580 --> 01:12:36,181
>> WE TOOK A BIG STACK OFVALDIVIA POTTERY, AND WE WENT
2294
01:12:36,183 --> 01:12:38,183
VALDIVIA POTTERY, AND WE WENTFROM TOKYO ALL THE WAY DOWN
2295
01:12:38,185 --> 01:12:39,818
FROM TOKYO ALL THE WAY DOWNBY TRAIN AND STOPPED EVERYWHERE
2296
01:12:39,820 --> 01:12:41,353
BY TRAIN AND STOPPED EVERYWHEREWHERE THERE WAS A MUSEUM
2297
01:12:41,355 --> 01:12:42,320
WHERE THERE WAS A MUSEUMOR COLLECTION.
2298
01:12:42,322 --> 01:12:44,456
OR COLLECTION.AND WHEN WE GOT TO KYUSHU,
2299
01:12:44,458 --> 01:12:45,623
AND WHEN WE GOT TO KYUSHU,WE STARTED SEEING ALL KINDS
2300
01:12:45,625 --> 01:12:47,292
WE STARTED SEEING ALL KINDSOF THINGS THAT LOOKED JUST LIKE
2301
01:12:47,294 --> 01:12:49,094
OF THINGS THAT LOOKED JUST LIKEVALDIVIA.
2302
01:12:49,096 --> 01:12:52,197
VALDIVIA.>> [speaking Japanese]
2303
01:12:52,199 --> 01:12:53,932
>> [speaking Japanese]>> WHAT DISTINGUISHES KYUSHU'S
2304
01:12:53,934 --> 01:12:56,368
>> WHAT DISTINGUISHES KYUSHU'SPOTTERY FROM OTHERS IS THE FACT
2305
01:12:56,370 --> 01:12:57,669
POTTERY FROM OTHERS IS THE FACTTHAT THE DESIGN IS NOT
2306
01:12:57,671 --> 01:12:59,938
THAT THE DESIGN IS NOTFLAMBOYANT AND THAT THEY FOCUS
2307
01:12:59,940 --> 01:13:04,642
FLAMBOYANT AND THAT THEY FOCUSON PATTERNS MADE FROM LINES.
2308
01:13:04,644 --> 01:13:05,710
ON PATTERNS MADE FROM LINES.>> narrator: KYUSHU IS THE
2309
01:13:05,712 --> 01:13:08,046
>> narrator: KYUSHU IS THETHIRD LARGEST ISLAND IN JAPAN
2310
01:13:08,048 --> 01:13:08,980
THIRD LARGEST ISLAND IN JAPANAND FORMS THE SOUTHERN TIP
2311
01:13:08,982 --> 01:13:10,448
AND FORMS THE SOUTHERN TIPOF THE COUNTRY.
2312
01:13:10,450 --> 01:13:12,283
OF THE COUNTRY.DR. MEGGERS AND ESTRADA SET OUT
2313
01:13:12,285 --> 01:13:13,885
DR. MEGGERS AND ESTRADA SET OUTTO FIND OUT HOW THE POTTERY
2314
01:13:13,887 --> 01:13:15,653
TO FIND OUT HOW THE POTTERYFROM KYUSHU COULD POSSIBLY
2315
01:13:15,655 --> 01:13:17,021
FROM KYUSHU COULD POSSIBLYBE CONNECTED TO POTTERY
2316
01:13:17,023 --> 01:13:19,124
BE CONNECTED TO POTTERYIN VALDIVIA, SOME 8,000
2317
01:13:19,126 --> 01:13:21,493
IN VALDIVIA, SOME 8,000NAUTICAL MILES AWAY.
2318
01:13:21,495 --> 01:13:25,463
NAUTICAL MILES AWAY.THEIR FINDINGS WERE EXPLOSIVE.
2319
01:13:25,465 --> 01:13:28,900
THEIR FINDINGS WERE EXPLOSIVE.[roaring and rumbling]
2320
01:13:28,902 --> 01:13:32,504
[roaring and rumbling]6,300 YEARS AGO, THE KIKAI
2321
01:13:32,506 --> 01:13:33,805
6,300 YEARS AGO, THE KIKAIVOLCANO IN SOUTHERN JAPAN
2322
01:13:33,807 --> 01:13:35,740
VOLCANO IN SOUTHERN JAPANERUPTED WITH GREATER FORCE
2323
01:13:35,742 --> 01:13:38,143
ERUPTED WITH GREATER FORCETHAN THAT OF LEGENDARY KRAKATOA
2324
01:13:38,145 --> 01:13:40,712
THAN THAT OF LEGENDARY KRAKATOAIN THE 1880s.
2325
01:13:40,714 --> 01:13:42,247
IN THE 1880s.KYUSHU WAS COATED IN MORE THAN
2326
01:13:42,249 --> 01:13:44,582
KYUSHU WAS COATED IN MORE THANA FOOT OF ASH, AS PUMICE RAINED
2327
01:13:44,584 --> 01:13:47,252
A FOOT OF ASH, AS PUMICE RAINEDALL ACROSS THE REGION.
2328
01:13:47,254 --> 01:13:49,020
ALL ACROSS THE REGION.>> PEOPLE WOULD HAVE JUMPED
2329
01:13:49,022 --> 01:13:49,921
>> PEOPLE WOULD HAVE JUMPEDIN THEIR CANOES.
2330
01:13:49,923 --> 01:13:50,889
IN THEIR CANOES.WE KNOW THEY DID DEEP-SEA
2331
01:13:50,891 --> 01:13:51,823
WE KNOW THEY DID DEEP-SEAFISHING.
2332
01:13:51,825 --> 01:13:53,024
FISHING.THEY COULD CATCH RAINWATER,
2333
01:13:53,026 --> 01:13:54,092
THEY COULD CATCH RAINWATER,AND THEY COULD CATCH FISH,
2334
01:13:54,094 --> 01:13:57,829
AND THEY COULD CATCH FISH,AND THEY COULD SURVIVE.
2335
01:13:57,831 --> 01:13:59,097
AND THEY COULD SURVIVE.>> narrator: BUT COULD THEY HAVE
2336
01:13:59,099 --> 01:14:00,064
>> narrator: BUT COULD THEY HAVEMADE IT ALL THE WAY TO
2337
01:14:00,066 --> 01:14:01,099
MADE IT ALL THE WAY TOTHE COAST OF ECUADOR
2338
01:14:01,101 --> 01:14:04,736
THE COAST OF ECUADORIN BOATS LIKE THIS?
2339
01:14:04,738 --> 01:14:07,705
IN BOATS LIKE THIS?A TRADITIONAL JOMON FISHING BOAT
2340
01:14:07,707 --> 01:14:09,274
A TRADITIONAL JOMON FISHING BOATWOULD HAVE BEEN VERY SIMPLE,
2341
01:14:09,276 --> 01:14:10,708
WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY SIMPLE,SOME 20 FEET LONG
2342
01:14:10,710 --> 01:14:12,277
SOME 20 FEET LONGAND JUST 2 FEET WIDE,
2343
01:14:12,279 --> 01:14:14,546
AND JUST 2 FEET WIDE,WITH ONLY OARS, NOT EVEN A SAIL
2344
01:14:14,548 --> 01:14:15,413
WITH ONLY OARS, NOT EVEN A SAILTO GET THEM WHERE
2345
01:14:15,415 --> 01:14:17,849
TO GET THEM WHERETHEY WERE GOING.
2346
01:14:17,851 --> 01:14:20,852
THEY WERE GOING.>> [speaking Japanese]
2347
01:14:20,854 --> 01:14:21,886
>> [speaking Japanese]>> THEY WOULD CARVE THESE BOATS
2348
01:14:21,888 --> 01:14:23,421
>> THEY WOULD CARVE THESE BOATSOUT OF LOGS.
2349
01:14:23,423 --> 01:14:25,290
OUT OF LOGS.IT'S DIFFICULT TO SAY HOW MANY
2350
01:14:25,292 --> 01:14:26,391
IT'S DIFFICULT TO SAY HOW MANYPEOPLE WOULD FIT INSIDE
2351
01:14:26,393 --> 01:14:27,392
PEOPLE WOULD FIT INSIDETHE BOAT.
2352
01:14:27,394 --> 01:14:28,293
THE BOAT.IT WOULD ALL DEPEND
2353
01:14:28,295 --> 01:14:31,629
IT WOULD ALL DEPENDON THE SIZE OF THE LOG.
2354
01:14:31,631 --> 01:14:38,303
>> EVEN THOUGH TRAVELINGIN A SMALL TREE BOAT WAS A RISK,
2355
01:14:38,305 --> 01:14:41,306
IN A SMALL TREE BOAT WAS A RISK,TO THIS CULTURE, SEAFARING
2356
01:14:41,308 --> 01:14:44,976
TO THIS CULTURE, SEAFARINGWAS A PART OF THEIR LIVES.
2357
01:14:44,978 --> 01:14:50,882
>> IT'S ENTIRELY POSSIBLE THATWITHIN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME,
2358
01:14:50,884 --> 01:14:52,050
WITHIN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME,BY HOPSCOTCHING FROM ISLAND
2359
01:14:52,052 --> 01:14:53,551
BY HOPSCOTCHING FROM ISLANDTO ISLAND, WORKING THEIR WAY
2360
01:14:53,553 --> 01:14:54,452
TO ISLAND, WORKING THEIR WAYDOWN THE COAST, THEY COULD
2361
01:14:54,454 --> 01:14:55,553
DOWN THE COAST, THEY COULDHAVE REACHED CENTRAL
2362
01:14:55,555 --> 01:14:58,389
HAVE REACHED CENTRALOR SOUTH AMERICA.
2363
01:14:58,391 --> 01:14:59,324
OR SOUTH AMERICA.>> narrator: THE KUROSHIO
2364
01:14:59,326 --> 01:15:00,391
>> narrator: THE KUROSHIOCURRENT WOULD HAVE PROPELLED
2365
01:15:00,393 --> 01:15:01,659
CURRENT WOULD HAVE PROPELLEDTHE FISHERMEN EASTWARD
2366
01:15:01,661 --> 01:15:03,328
THE FISHERMEN EASTWARDAND NORTHWARD, SO THEY WOULDN'T
2367
01:15:03,330 --> 01:15:05,430
AND NORTHWARD, SO THEY WOULDN'THAVE HAD TO TRAVEL 8,000 MILES
2368
01:15:05,432 --> 01:15:07,465
HAVE HAD TO TRAVEL 8,000 MILESOF OPEN SEA.
2369
01:15:07,467 --> 01:15:08,633
OF OPEN SEA.>> LITTLE EFFORT WOULD BE
2370
01:15:08,635 --> 01:15:10,468
>> LITTLE EFFORT WOULD BEREQUIRED TO CROSS FROM
2371
01:15:10,470 --> 01:15:11,469
REQUIRED TO CROSS FROMSUBTROPICAL GYRE
2372
01:15:11,471 --> 01:15:12,937
SUBTROPICAL GYREINTO SUBPOLAR GYRE,
2373
01:15:12,939 --> 01:15:15,907
INTO SUBPOLAR GYRE,AND THEN STRONG EASTERN BOUNDARY
2374
01:15:15,909 --> 01:15:17,342
AND THEN STRONG EASTERN BOUNDARYCURRENT WOULD LEAD DIRECTLY
2375
01:15:17,344 --> 01:15:18,977
CURRENT WOULD LEAD DIRECTLYTO ALASKA.
2376
01:15:18,979 --> 01:15:20,345
TO ALASKA.>> narrator: FROM ALASKA,
2377
01:15:20,347 --> 01:15:21,145
>> narrator: FROM ALASKA,IT WOULD HAVE BEEN
2378
01:15:21,147 --> 01:15:22,413
IT WOULD HAVE BEENA RELATIVELY EASY JOURNEY
2379
01:15:22,415 --> 01:15:24,248
A RELATIVELY EASY JOURNEYALONG THE CALIFORNIA COAST,
2380
01:15:24,250 --> 01:15:25,783
ALONG THE CALIFORNIA COAST,ALONG THE EDGE OF CENTRAL
2381
01:15:25,785 --> 01:15:28,453
ALONG THE EDGE OF CENTRALAMERICA, AND ON TO ECUADOR.
2382
01:15:28,455 --> 01:15:29,654
AMERICA, AND ON TO ECUADOR.>> OBVIOUSLY THEY MADE
2383
01:15:29,656 --> 01:15:31,723
>> OBVIOUSLY THEY MADEA LANDFALL ON VALDIVIA, AND THEY
2384
01:15:31,725 --> 01:15:33,691
A LANDFALL ON VALDIVIA, AND THEYFOUND PEOPLE LIVING ESSENTIALLY
2385
01:15:33,693 --> 01:15:37,095
FOUND PEOPLE LIVING ESSENTIALLYTHE WAY THEY WERE IN JAPAN,
2386
01:15:37,097 --> 01:15:40,465
THE WAY THEY WERE IN JAPAN,BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE POTTERY.
2387
01:15:40,467 --> 01:15:41,499
BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE POTTERY.>> narrator: DR. MEGGERS
2388
01:15:41,501 --> 01:15:42,533
>> narrator: DR. MEGGERSIS CONVINCED THE JAPANESE
2389
01:15:42,535 --> 01:15:44,002
IS CONVINCED THE JAPANESEINTRODUCED IT TO THEM
2390
01:15:44,004 --> 01:15:45,970
INTRODUCED IT TO THEMAND TOGETHER WITH ESTRADA,
2391
01:15:45,972 --> 01:15:47,872
AND TOGETHER WITH ESTRADA,FOUND 26 SIMILARITIES IN
2392
01:15:47,874 --> 01:15:50,174
FOUND 26 SIMILARITIES INTECHNIQUE AND MOTIF ON POTTERY
2393
01:15:50,176 --> 01:15:52,377
TECHNIQUE AND MOTIF ON POTTERYFROM JAPAN AND VALDIVIA.
2394
01:15:52,379 --> 01:15:54,278
FROM JAPAN AND VALDIVIA.THEY INCLUDE DOG BONE SHAPES
2395
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:56,180
THEY INCLUDE DOG BONE SHAPESAND HOURGLASS FIGURES,
2396
01:15:56,182 --> 01:15:57,515
AND HOURGLASS FIGURES,WHICH BETTY SAYS AREN'T FOUND
2397
01:15:57,517 --> 01:15:59,384
WHICH BETTY SAYS AREN'T FOUNDANYWHERE ELSE EXCEPT ON
2398
01:15:59,386 --> 01:16:01,719
ANYWHERE ELSE EXCEPT ONJOMON AND VALDIVIAN POTTERY.
2399
01:16:01,721 --> 01:16:03,354
JOMON AND VALDIVIAN POTTERY.>> YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET
2400
01:16:03,356 --> 01:16:05,056
>> YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GETINDEPENDENT INVENTION OF ALL
2401
01:16:05,058 --> 01:16:06,958
INDEPENDENT INVENTION OF ALLOF THESE COMPLICATED TECHNIQUES
2402
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,360
OF THESE COMPLICATED TECHNIQUESAND MOTIFS.
2403
01:16:09,362 --> 01:16:10,228
AND MOTIFS.>> narrator: BUT CRITICS
2404
01:16:10,230 --> 01:16:11,963
>> narrator: BUT CRITICSDISAGREE.
2405
01:16:11,965 --> 01:16:13,398
DISAGREE.THEY THINK THE VALDIVIANS
2406
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:14,399
THEY THINK THE VALDIVIANSCOULD HAVE COME UP WITH THEIR
2407
01:16:14,401 --> 01:16:18,403
COULD HAVE COME UP WITH THEIRPOTTERY DESIGNS ON THEIR OWN.
2408
01:16:18,405 --> 01:16:19,904
POTTERY DESIGNS ON THEIR OWN.IT TURNS OUT, HOWEVER,
2409
01:16:19,906 --> 01:16:21,672
IT TURNS OUT, HOWEVER,POTTERY ISN'T THE ONLY THING
2410
01:16:21,674 --> 01:16:23,207
POTTERY ISN'T THE ONLY THINGTO SUGGEST THE JAPANESE MADE IT
2411
01:16:23,209 --> 01:16:24,208
TO SUGGEST THE JAPANESE MADE ITTO SOUTH AMERICA
2412
01:16:24,210 --> 01:16:25,810
TO SOUTH AMERICAIN ANCIENT TIMES.
2413
01:16:25,812 --> 01:16:27,145
IN ANCIENT TIMES.THERE'S ALSO EVIDENCE
2414
01:16:27,147 --> 01:16:31,916
THERE'S ALSO EVIDENCETHEY INTRODUCED A DEADLY VIRUS.
2415
01:16:31,918 --> 01:16:34,085
THEY INTRODUCED A DEADLY VIRUS.>> THIS VIRUS IS VERY, VERY
2416
01:16:34,087 --> 01:16:35,753
>> THIS VIRUS IS VERY, VERYINTERESTING BECAUSE OF THE
2417
01:16:35,755 --> 01:16:37,255
INTERESTING BECAUSE OF THEVERY UNIQUE GEOGRAPHICAL
2418
01:16:37,257 --> 01:16:39,524
VERY UNIQUE GEOGRAPHICALDISTRIBUTION.
2419
01:16:39,526 --> 01:16:40,425
DISTRIBUTION.>> narrator: THE VIRUS IS
2420
01:16:40,427 --> 01:16:41,826
>> narrator: THE VIRUS ISTHE HUMAN "T" CELL LYMPHOTROPIC
2421
01:16:41,828 --> 01:16:46,264
THE HUMAN "T" CELL LYMPHOTROPICVIRUS TYPE I, CALLED HTLV-1.
2422
01:16:46,266 --> 01:16:47,265
VIRUS TYPE I, CALLED HTLV-1.IT'S RARE, AND IT CAUSES
2423
01:16:47,267 --> 01:16:49,434
IT'S RARE, AND IT CAUSESLEUKEMIA.
2424
01:16:49,436 --> 01:16:51,436
LEUKEMIA.HTLV-1 IS ONLY FOUND IN
2425
01:16:51,438 --> 01:16:53,037
HTLV-1 IS ONLY FOUND INA SMALL NUMBER OF MODERN-DAY
2426
01:16:53,039 --> 01:16:55,039
A SMALL NUMBER OF MODERN-DAYPEOPLE FROM SOUTHERN JAPAN
2427
01:16:55,041 --> 01:16:56,574
PEOPLE FROM SOUTHERN JAPANAND MUMMIFIED PEOPLE IN
2428
01:16:56,576 --> 01:17:00,878
AND MUMMIFIED PEOPLE INSOUTH AMERICA'S ATACAMA DESERT.
2429
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:02,547
SOUTH AMERICA'S ATACAMA DESERT.AT THE BASE OF THE ANDES,
2430
01:17:02,549 --> 01:17:04,882
AT THE BASE OF THE ANDES,THIS DESERT IS THE DRIEST PLACE
2431
01:17:04,884 --> 01:17:06,517
THIS DESERT IS THE DRIEST PLACEON EARTH.
2432
01:17:06,519 --> 01:17:08,352
ON EARTH.LAND PARCHED AND CRACKED,
2433
01:17:08,354 --> 01:17:11,122
LAND PARCHED AND CRACKED,IT LOOKS LIKE A LUNAR LANDSCAPE.
2434
01:17:11,124 --> 01:17:12,890
IT LOOKS LIKE A LUNAR LANDSCAPE.BECAUSE OF THE CLIMATE,
2435
01:17:12,892 --> 01:17:14,091
BECAUSE OF THE CLIMATE,MUMMIES LIKE THESE WERE
2436
01:17:14,093 --> 01:17:17,895
MUMMIES LIKE THESE WERESTRIKINGLY PRESERVED.
2437
01:17:17,897 --> 01:17:19,931
STRIKINGLY PRESERVED.>> BUT ANDES PEOPLE ARE SIMILAR
2438
01:17:19,933 --> 01:17:22,567
>> BUT ANDES PEOPLE ARE SIMILARTO JAPANESE, ESPECIALLY
2439
01:17:22,569 --> 01:17:24,869
TO JAPANESE, ESPECIALLYSOUTHWESTERN JAPAN.
2440
01:17:24,871 --> 01:17:27,939
SOUTHWESTERN JAPAN.SO NOT ONLY TYPE OF THE VIRUS
2441
01:17:27,941 --> 01:17:29,941
SO NOT ONLY TYPE OF THE VIRUSBUT ALSO A GENETIC BACKGROUND
2442
01:17:29,943 --> 01:17:33,778
BUT ALSO A GENETIC BACKGROUNDSIMILAR TO JAPANESE.
2443
01:17:33,780 --> 01:17:34,612
SIMILAR TO JAPANESE.>> narrator: THOSE
2444
01:17:34,614 --> 01:17:36,314
>> narrator: THOSEANTHROPOLOGICAL SIMILARITIES
2445
01:17:36,316 --> 01:17:37,949
ANTHROPOLOGICAL SIMILARITIESARE WHAT LED HIM TO THE MUMMIES
2446
01:17:37,951 --> 01:17:39,951
ARE WHAT LED HIM TO THE MUMMIESHERE, IN SEARCH OF MORE ANSWERS
2447
01:17:39,953 --> 01:17:43,087
HERE, IN SEARCH OF MORE ANSWERSABOUT HTLV-1.
2448
01:17:43,089 --> 01:17:44,555
ABOUT HTLV-1.>> WE COLLECTED DRIED-UP
2449
01:17:44,557 --> 01:17:47,592
>> WE COLLECTED DRIED-UPBONE MARROW FROM THE FEMUR BONE.
2450
01:17:47,594 --> 01:17:49,961
BONE MARROW FROM THE FEMUR BONE.MORE THAN 100 SAMPLES
2451
01:17:49,963 --> 01:17:51,729
MORE THAN 100 SAMPLESWE COLLECTED.
2452
01:17:51,731 --> 01:17:52,597
WE COLLECTED.>> narrator: FROM THAT
2453
01:17:52,599 --> 01:17:53,965
>> narrator: FROM THATBONE MARROW, HE WAS ABLE
2454
01:17:53,967 --> 01:17:56,567
BONE MARROW, HE WAS ABLETO COLLECT DNA.
2455
01:17:56,569 --> 01:17:58,636
TO COLLECT DNA.HE FOUND HTLV-1 THAT LIKELY
2456
01:17:58,638 --> 01:18:01,072
HE FOUND HTLV-1 THAT LIKELYORIGINATED IN ASIA WAS PRESENT
2457
01:18:01,074 --> 01:18:02,740
ORIGINATED IN ASIA WAS PRESENTIN SOUTH AMERICA IN ANCIENT
2458
01:18:02,742 --> 01:18:04,775
IN SOUTH AMERICA IN ANCIENTTIMES, AND IT HAD TO HAVE
2459
01:18:04,777 --> 01:18:05,977
TIMES, AND IT HAD TO HAVEGOTTEN THERE FROM CONTACT
2460
01:18:05,979 --> 01:18:07,845
GOTTEN THERE FROM CONTACTWITH PEOPLE WHO ALREADY CARRIED
2461
01:18:07,847 --> 01:18:09,947
WITH PEOPLE WHO ALREADY CARRIEDTHE VIRUS.
2462
01:18:09,949 --> 01:18:12,116
THE VIRUS.>> THIS VIRUS IS TRANSMISSIBLE
2463
01:18:12,118 --> 01:18:13,084
>> THIS VIRUS IS TRANSMISSIBLETHROUGH BREAST MILK,
2464
01:18:13,086 --> 01:18:14,352
THROUGH BREAST MILK,FROM MOTHER,
2465
01:18:14,354 --> 01:18:16,787
FROM MOTHER,AND ALSO FROM HUSBAND TO WIFE
2466
01:18:16,789 --> 01:18:18,256
AND ALSO FROM HUSBAND TO WIFETHROUGH SEMEN.
2467
01:18:18,258 --> 01:18:20,124
THROUGH SEMEN.SO THAT'S A VERY HARD EVIDENCE
2468
01:18:20,126 --> 01:18:22,760
SO THAT'S A VERY HARD EVIDENCETHAT I BELIEVE.
2469
01:18:22,762 --> 01:18:23,661
THAT I BELIEVE.>> THESE ARE THE THINGS YOU HAVE
2470
01:18:23,663 --> 01:18:26,530
>> THESE ARE THE THINGS YOU HAVETO KNOW ABOUT IN ORDER TO SAY
2471
01:18:26,532 --> 01:18:28,099
TO KNOW ABOUT IN ORDER TO SAYTHIS IS REALLY A CONTACT
2472
01:18:28,101 --> 01:18:30,434
THIS IS REALLY A CONTACTAND NOT JUST AN ACCIDENTAL
2473
01:18:30,436 --> 01:18:32,703
AND NOT JUST AN ACCIDENTALSIMILARITY.
2474
01:18:32,705 --> 01:18:33,537
SIMILARITY.>> narrator: DR. MEGGERS
2475
01:18:33,539 --> 01:18:35,006
>> narrator: DR. MEGGERSIS STILL WORKING TO PROVE
2476
01:18:35,008 --> 01:18:36,540
IS STILL WORKING TO PROVETO MAINSTREAM ACADEMICS THAT
2477
01:18:36,542 --> 01:18:38,175
TO MAINSTREAM ACADEMICS THATTHERE WAS ANCIENT JAPANESE
2478
01:18:38,177 --> 01:18:40,945
THERE WAS ANCIENT JAPANESECONTACT WITH THE VALDIVIANS.
2479
01:18:40,947 --> 01:18:43,447
CONTACT WITH THE VALDIVIANS.THE LOCALS IN VALDIVIA NEED LESS
2480
01:18:43,449 --> 01:18:45,650
THE LOCALS IN VALDIVIA NEED LESSCONVINCING.
2481
01:18:45,652 --> 01:18:46,884
CONVINCING.>> THE VALDIVIAN PEOPLE
2482
01:18:46,886 --> 01:18:49,687
>> THE VALDIVIAN PEOPLEREALLY DON'T THINK ABOUT WHAT
2483
01:18:49,689 --> 01:18:50,988
REALLY DON'T THINK ABOUT WHATARE THEIR ORIGINS.
2484
01:18:50,990 --> 01:18:52,790
ARE THEIR ORIGINS.WHAT WE CAN SEE IF WE GO
2485
01:18:52,792 --> 01:18:54,558
WHAT WE CAN SEE IF WE GOOUTSIDE, WE'LL SEE THAT THEY
2486
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:56,961
OUTSIDE, WE'LL SEE THAT THEYHAVE A LOT OF ASIAN
2487
01:18:56,963 --> 01:18:59,463
HAVE A LOT OF ASIANCHARACTERISTICS ON THEIR FACES,
2488
01:18:59,465 --> 01:19:01,032
CHARACTERISTICS ON THEIR FACES,AND THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT FROM
2489
01:19:01,034 --> 01:19:02,967
AND THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT FROMTHE REST OF THE COUNTRY.
2490
01:19:02,969 --> 01:19:04,201
THE REST OF THE COUNTRY.>> narrator: AND IN THAT
2491
01:19:04,203 --> 01:19:05,870
>> narrator: AND IN THATLIES THE KEY TO ULTIMATELY
2492
01:19:05,872 --> 01:19:07,805
LIES THE KEY TO ULTIMATELYDETERMINING WHICH OF ALL THESE
2493
01:19:07,807 --> 01:19:09,974
DETERMINING WHICH OF ALL THESEVOYAGES REALLY HAPPENED.
2494
01:19:09,976 --> 01:19:12,209
VOYAGES REALLY HAPPENED.IT'S NOT WHO HOLDS THE KEY
2495
01:19:12,211 --> 01:19:14,378
IT'S NOT WHO HOLDS THE KEYBUT WHO IS THE KEY.
2496
01:19:14,380 --> 01:19:15,579
BUT WHO IS THE KEY.>> SO IN EFFECT
2497
01:19:15,581 --> 01:19:16,414
>> SO IN EFFECTWITHIN OURSELVES,
2498
01:19:16,416 --> 01:19:20,151
WITHIN OURSELVES,WE HAVE AN ENTIRE ENCYCLOPEDIA.
2499
01:19:20,153 --> 01:19:22,486
WE HAVE AN ENTIRE ENCYCLOPEDIA.>> narrator: NOW DNA BECOMES
2500
01:19:22,488 --> 01:19:24,322
>> narrator: NOW DNA BECOMESINVALUABLE AS ONE THEORY OF
2501
01:19:24,324 --> 01:19:25,723
INVALUABLE AS ONE THEORY OFPRE-COLUMBIAN CONTACT
2502
01:19:25,725 --> 01:19:27,391
PRE-COLUMBIAN CONTACTHAS THE CHANCE TO BE PROVEN
2503
01:19:27,393 --> 01:19:29,026
HAS THE CHANCE TO BE PROVENWITH THE ULTIMATE TEST
2504
01:19:29,028 --> 01:19:31,195
WITH THE ULTIMATE TESTBORN OF BONE AND BLOOD.
2505
01:19:31,197 --> 01:19:36,484
>> narrator: WHO REALLYDISCOVERED AMERICA?
2506
01:19:36,486 --> 01:19:39,120
DISCOVERED AMERICA?PERHAPS A LOT OF PEOPLE.
2507
01:19:39,122 --> 01:19:40,321
PERHAPS A LOT OF PEOPLE.CERTAINLY THE NATIVE AMERICANS
2508
01:19:40,323 --> 01:19:42,289
CERTAINLY THE NATIVE AMERICANSWERE HERE BEFORE COLUMBUS,
2509
01:19:42,291 --> 01:19:43,858
WERE HERE BEFORE COLUMBUS,THE VIKINGS TOO.
2510
01:19:43,860 --> 01:19:46,260
THE VIKINGS TOO.BUT WHO ELSE?
2511
01:19:46,262 --> 01:19:47,495
BUT WHO ELSE?THERE ARE EVEN MORE STORIES
2512
01:19:47,497 --> 01:19:48,729
THERE ARE EVEN MORE STORIESOF PRE-COLUMBIAN VOYAGES TO
2513
01:19:48,731 --> 01:19:50,631
OF PRE-COLUMBIAN VOYAGES TOAMERICA AND BACK THAN THE ONES
2514
01:19:50,633 --> 01:19:52,566
AMERICA AND BACK THAN THE ONESSHOWN ON THIS MAP.
2515
01:19:52,568 --> 01:19:54,168
SHOWN ON THIS MAP.THEY'RE OFTEN THE ONLY WAY
2516
01:19:54,170 --> 01:19:55,870
THEY'RE OFTEN THE ONLY WAYTO EXPLAIN THINGS LIKE COCAINE
2517
01:19:55,872 --> 01:19:56,670
TO EXPLAIN THINGS LIKE COCAINEAND NICOTINE,
2518
01:19:56,672 --> 01:19:58,506
AND NICOTINE,NEW WORLD SUBSTANCES,
2519
01:19:58,508 --> 01:20:00,007
NEW WORLD SUBSTANCES,FOUND IN EGYPTIAN MUMMIES
2520
01:20:00,009 --> 01:20:02,009
FOUND IN EGYPTIAN MUMMIESFROM 1000 A.D.,
2521
01:20:02,011 --> 01:20:03,511
FROM 1000 A.D.,THE ONLY WAY TO EXPLAIN COPPER
2522
01:20:03,513 --> 01:20:04,845
THE ONLY WAY TO EXPLAIN COPPEROF A PURITY ONLY FOUND IN
2523
01:20:04,847 --> 01:20:06,847
OF A PURITY ONLY FOUND INLAKE SUPERIOR BEING USED IN
2524
01:20:06,849 --> 01:20:08,516
LAKE SUPERIOR BEING USED INMEDITERRANEAN BOATS AROUND
2525
01:20:08,518 --> 01:20:10,885
MEDITERRANEAN BOATS AROUND1400 B.C.
2526
01:20:10,887 --> 01:20:13,220
1400 B.C.FROM THE CHINESE IN 1421
2527
01:20:13,222 --> 01:20:14,188
FROM THE CHINESE IN 1421ALL THE WAY BACK TO
2528
01:20:14,190 --> 01:20:17,358
ALL THE WAY BACK TOTHE SOLUTREANS IN 22,000 B.C.,
2529
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:18,893
THE SOLUTREANS IN 22,000 B.C.,THERE IS AN ALTERNATE TIME LINE
2530
01:20:18,895 --> 01:20:20,327
THERE IS AN ALTERNATE TIME LINEOF HISTORY THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE
2531
01:20:20,329 --> 01:20:22,463
OF HISTORY THAT IS IMPOSSIBLETO IGNORE.
2532
01:20:22,465 --> 01:20:23,497
TO IGNORE.>> I THINK WE NEED TO START
2533
01:20:23,499 --> 01:20:24,732
>> I THINK WE NEED TO STARTLOOKING AT HISTORY FROM SOME
2534
01:20:24,734 --> 01:20:26,400
LOOKING AT HISTORY FROM SOMEDIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.
2535
01:20:26,402 --> 01:20:28,235
DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.WE NEED TO TAKE THE GLASSES OFF
2536
01:20:28,237 --> 01:20:29,737
WE NEED TO TAKE THE GLASSES OFFTHAT SAY WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT
2537
01:20:29,739 --> 01:20:30,738
THAT SAY WE'RE GOING TO LOOK ATTHIS FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF
2538
01:20:30,740 --> 01:20:32,807
THIS FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OFCOLUMBUS AND HIS SHIPS.
2539
01:20:32,809 --> 01:20:33,707
COLUMBUS AND HIS SHIPS.>> I THINK WE NEED TO BE
2540
01:20:33,709 --> 01:20:35,109
>> I THINK WE NEED TO BEOPEN-MINDED BECAUSE WE'RE
2541
01:20:35,111 --> 01:20:36,577
OPEN-MINDED BECAUSE WE'RECONSTANTLY HAVING NEW DATA
2542
01:20:36,579 --> 01:20:37,645
CONSTANTLY HAVING NEW DATACOMING IN THAT CAN ALLOW US
2543
01:20:37,647 --> 01:20:38,579
COMING IN THAT CAN ALLOW USTO CHANGE OUR THEORIES
2544
01:20:38,581 --> 01:20:40,080
TO CHANGE OUR THEORIESAND OUR INTERPRETATIONS,
2545
01:20:40,082 --> 01:20:41,916
AND OUR INTERPRETATIONS,EVEN IN CASES WHERE
2546
01:20:41,918 --> 01:20:42,883
EVEN IN CASES WHERETHINGS MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED
2547
01:20:42,885 --> 01:20:44,051
THINGS MIGHT HAVE HAPPENEDIN THE PAST THAT WE WOULDN'T
2548
01:20:44,053 --> 01:20:48,622
IN THE PAST THAT WE WOULDN'THAVE IMAGINED.
2549
01:20:48,624 --> 01:20:49,456
HAVE IMAGINED.>> narrator: THE ADVENT OF
2550
01:20:49,458 --> 01:20:50,858
>> narrator: THE ADVENT OFDNA TESTING IS ONE THING THAT
2551
01:20:50,860 --> 01:20:52,526
DNA TESTING IS ONE THING THATHAS OPENED THE DOOR TO EITHER
2552
01:20:52,528 --> 01:20:54,061
HAS OPENED THE DOOR TO EITHERPUTTING TO REST OR PROMOTING
2553
01:20:54,063 --> 01:20:57,431
PUTTING TO REST OR PROMOTINGNOTIONS OF NEW WORLD VOYAGES.
2554
01:20:57,433 --> 01:20:59,200
NOTIONS OF NEW WORLD VOYAGES.>> DNA TESTING CAN PRETTY
2555
01:20:59,202 --> 01:21:01,068
>> DNA TESTING CAN PRETTYCLEARLY GIVE US AN IDEA
2556
01:21:01,070 --> 01:21:03,170
CLEARLY GIVE US AN IDEAAS TO THE PEOPLES THAT WERE
2557
01:21:03,172 --> 01:21:07,575
AS TO THE PEOPLES THAT WEREIN THE AMERICAS BEFORE COLUMBUS.
2558
01:21:07,577 --> 01:21:08,475
IN THE AMERICAS BEFORE COLUMBUS.>> narrator: NOW THE SEARCH IS
2559
01:21:08,477 --> 01:21:10,411
>> narrator: NOW THE SEARCH ISON FOR DNA EVIDENCE TO
2560
01:21:10,413 --> 01:21:12,213
ON FOR DNA EVIDENCE TODEFINITIVELY PROVE ONE GROUP
2561
01:21:12,215 --> 01:21:14,348
DEFINITIVELY PROVE ONE GROUPDID MAKE IT OVER.
2562
01:21:14,350 --> 01:21:27,828
2010, CHILE,518 YEARS AFTER COLUMBUS.
2563
01:21:27,830 --> 01:21:29,263
518 YEARS AFTER COLUMBUS.ELSEWHERE IN THE WORLD,
2564
01:21:29,265 --> 01:21:30,965
ELSEWHERE IN THE WORLD,BARACK OBAMA IS THE FIRST
2565
01:21:30,967 --> 01:21:32,533
BARACK OBAMA IS THE FIRSTAFRICAN-AMERICAN PRESIDENT OF
2566
01:21:32,535 --> 01:21:35,102
AFRICAN-AMERICAN PRESIDENT OFTHE UNITED STATES, AND A SERIES
2567
01:21:35,104 --> 01:21:36,704
THE UNITED STATES, AND A SERIESOF EARTHQUAKES ROCK HAITI,
2568
01:21:36,706 --> 01:21:38,739
OF EARTHQUAKES ROCK HAITI,JAPAN, AND TURKEY.
2569
01:21:38,741 --> 01:21:40,908
JAPAN, AND TURKEY.IN CHILE, THERE'S A DEVASTATING
2570
01:21:40,910 --> 01:21:43,577
IN CHILE, THERE'S A DEVASTATINGEARTHQUAKE TOO, BUT ONLY MINIMAL
2571
01:21:43,579 --> 01:21:45,112
EARTHQUAKE TOO, BUT ONLY MINIMALDAMAGE IS SUSTAINED ON THIS
2572
01:21:45,114 --> 01:21:46,714
DAMAGE IS SUSTAINED ON THISVERY IMPORTANT ISLAND OFF
2573
01:21:46,716 --> 01:21:48,182
VERY IMPORTANT ISLAND OFFTHE COUNTRY'S SOUTHERN COAST
2574
01:21:48,184 --> 01:21:49,617
THE COUNTRY'S SOUTHERN COASTWHERE ARCHAEOLOGIST
2575
01:21:49,619 --> 01:21:54,255
WHERE ARCHAEOLOGISTJOSE MIGUEL RAMIREZ IS HEADING.
2576
01:21:54,257 --> 01:21:55,589
JOSE MIGUEL RAMIREZ IS HEADING.>> I THINK IT WAS OTHER PEOPLE
2577
01:21:55,591 --> 01:21:57,625
>> I THINK IT WAS OTHER PEOPLEWHO CAME BEFORE COLUMBUS.
2578
01:21:57,627 --> 01:22:03,297
WHO CAME BEFORE COLUMBUS.WE KNOW IT WAS POLYNESIAN.
2579
01:22:03,299 --> 01:22:05,599
WE KNOW IT WAS POLYNESIAN.THEY WERE MOVING EASTWARD.
2580
01:22:05,601 --> 01:22:07,434
THEY WERE MOVING EASTWARD.AND THE ONLY POSSIBLE END
2581
01:22:07,436 --> 01:22:08,769
AND THE ONLY POSSIBLE ENDFOR THIS EXPLORATION WAS
2582
01:22:08,771 --> 01:22:12,273
FOR THIS EXPLORATION WASTHE SOUTH AMERICAN COASTLINE.
2583
01:22:12,275 --> 01:22:23,717
THIS IS MOCHA ISLAND.IT SEEMS A VERY GOOD LOCATION
2584
01:22:23,719 --> 01:22:25,185
IT SEEMS A VERY GOOD LOCATIONFOR ANY POLYNESIAN COMING FROM
2585
01:22:25,187 --> 01:22:29,990
FOR ANY POLYNESIAN COMING FROMCENTRAL POLYNESIA.
2586
01:22:29,992 --> 01:22:31,492
CENTRAL POLYNESIA.WE ARE GOING TO THE SITE WHERE
2587
01:22:31,494 --> 01:22:33,193
WE ARE GOING TO THE SITE WHEREWE FOUND THE FIRST EVIDENCE
2588
01:22:33,195 --> 01:22:35,629
WE FOUND THE FIRST EVIDENCEWITH HUMAN BONES WITH
2589
01:22:35,631 --> 01:22:38,432
WITH HUMAN BONES WITHPOLYNESIAN TRAITS.
2590
01:22:38,434 --> 01:22:39,600
POLYNESIAN TRAITS.>> narrator: BETWEEN 1992
2591
01:22:39,602 --> 01:22:41,535
>> narrator: BETWEEN 1992AND 2003, EXCAVATIONS ON
2592
01:22:41,537 --> 01:22:43,337
AND 2003, EXCAVATIONS ONMOCHA ISLAND BY A TEAM OF
2593
01:22:43,339 --> 01:22:44,905
MOCHA ISLAND BY A TEAM OFARCHAEOLOGISTS UNEARTHED
2594
01:22:44,907 --> 01:22:46,707
ARCHAEOLOGISTS UNEARTHEDCOMPLETE SKULLS, FEMURS,
2595
01:22:46,709 --> 01:22:48,375
COMPLETE SKULLS, FEMURS,AND OTHER BONES THAT DATE BACK
2596
01:22:48,377 --> 01:22:51,345
AND OTHER BONES THAT DATE BACKTO 1000 TO 1300 A.D.,
2597
01:22:51,347 --> 01:22:52,546
TO 1000 TO 1300 A.D.,BASED ON CHARACTERISTICS OF
2598
01:22:52,548 --> 01:22:54,848
BASED ON CHARACTERISTICS OFCERAMICS FOUND WITH THEM.
2599
01:22:54,850 --> 01:22:55,983
CERAMICS FOUND WITH THEM.THE BONES WERE ANALYZED
2600
01:22:55,985 --> 01:22:58,185
THE BONES WERE ANALYZEDIN DETAIL IN 2008.
2601
01:22:58,187 --> 01:22:59,687
IN DETAIL IN 2008.THREE OF THE SKULLS APPEARED
2602
01:22:59,689 --> 01:23:02,489
THREE OF THE SKULLS APPEAREDTO HAVE POLYNESIAN FEATURES.
2603
01:23:02,491 --> 01:23:03,657
TO HAVE POLYNESIAN FEATURES.>> BONES TELL US A LOT
2604
01:23:03,659 --> 01:23:05,192
>> BONES TELL US A LOTABOUT PEOPLE.
2605
01:23:05,194 --> 01:23:06,193
ABOUT PEOPLE.THE FIRST EVIDENCE FOR ANY
2606
01:23:06,195 --> 01:23:07,261
THE FIRST EVIDENCE FOR ANYPOLYNESIAN IS THE SHAPE
2607
01:23:07,263 --> 01:23:08,262
POLYNESIAN IS THE SHAPEOF THE SKULL.
2608
01:23:08,264 --> 01:23:09,496
OF THE SKULL.IF YOU LOOK AT THEM FROM
2609
01:23:09,498 --> 01:23:11,231
IF YOU LOOK AT THEM FROMBEHIND, THEY ARE PENTAGONAL
2610
01:23:11,233 --> 01:23:12,900
BEHIND, THEY ARE PENTAGONALIN SHAPE, AND THERE IS OTHER
2611
01:23:12,902 --> 01:23:14,968
IN SHAPE, AND THERE IS OTHERTRAITS LIKE THE ROCKER JAW.
2612
01:23:14,970 --> 01:23:16,236
TRAITS LIKE THE ROCKER JAW.THAT'S A VERY CLASSIC
2613
01:23:16,238 --> 01:23:18,205
THAT'S A VERY CLASSICNOT-AMERICAN TRAIT.
2614
01:23:18,207 --> 01:23:19,740
NOT-AMERICAN TRAIT.>> narrator: A ROCKER JAW IS
2615
01:23:19,742 --> 01:23:21,275
>> narrator: A ROCKER JAW ISTERMED THAT BECAUSE WHEN PLACED
2616
01:23:21,277 --> 01:23:23,410
TERMED THAT BECAUSE WHEN PLACEDON A TABLE, A CONTINUOUS CURVE
2617
01:23:23,412 --> 01:23:24,878
ON A TABLE, A CONTINUOUS CURVEALLOWS IT TO ROCK BACK
2618
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:26,380
ALLOWS IT TO ROCK BACKAND FORTH.
2619
01:23:26,382 --> 01:23:27,514
AND FORTH.THE JAWBONE OF SOMEONE OF
2620
01:23:27,516 --> 01:23:29,516
THE JAWBONE OF SOMEONE OFASIAN OR EUROPEAN DESCENT
2621
01:23:29,518 --> 01:23:31,218
ASIAN OR EUROPEAN DESCENTWOULD NOT DO THAT.
2622
01:23:31,220 --> 01:23:32,986
WOULD NOT DO THAT.ALSO IMPORTANT,
2623
01:23:32,988 --> 01:23:34,421
ALSO IMPORTANT,ONE OF THE SKULLS WAS VERY
2624
01:23:34,423 --> 01:23:35,589
ONE OF THE SKULLS WAS VERYSIMILAR TO A SKULL FROM
2625
01:23:35,591 --> 01:23:36,757
SIMILAR TO A SKULL FROMTHE CHANNEL ISLANDS OFF THE
2626
01:23:36,759 --> 01:23:38,926
THE CHANNEL ISLANDS OFF THECOAST OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA,
2627
01:23:38,928 --> 01:23:40,027
COAST OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA,ISLANDS INHABITED BY
2628
01:23:40,029 --> 01:23:42,229
ISLANDS INHABITED BYTHE CHUMASH PEOPLE AND WHERE
2629
01:23:42,231 --> 01:23:43,230
THE CHUMASH PEOPLE AND WHEREA POLYNESIAN CONNECTION WAS
2630
01:23:43,232 --> 01:23:46,900
A POLYNESIAN CONNECTION WASALREADY BEING INVESTIGATED.
2631
01:23:46,902 --> 01:23:48,435
ALREADY BEING INVESTIGATED.>> THE TRAITS THAT WE SEE AMONG
2632
01:23:48,437 --> 01:23:50,037
>> THE TRAITS THAT WE SEE AMONGTHE CHUMASH THAT MAY HAVE
2633
01:23:50,039 --> 01:23:51,438
THE CHUMASH THAT MAY HAVEORIGINATED FROM CONTACT WITH
2634
01:23:51,440 --> 01:23:53,540
ORIGINATED FROM CONTACT WITHPOLYNESIA: THE SEWN-PLANK BOAT,
2635
01:23:53,542 --> 01:23:56,243
POLYNESIA: THE SEWN-PLANK BOAT,AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A STYLE
2636
01:23:56,245 --> 01:23:57,778
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A STYLEOF COMPOUND FISHHOOK.
2637
01:23:57,780 --> 01:23:59,413
OF COMPOUND FISHHOOK.>> FISHHOOKS AND THE LINGUISTIC
2638
01:23:59,415 --> 01:24:01,081
>> FISHHOOKS AND THE LINGUISTICEVIDENCE TOGETHER, THAT IS
2639
01:24:01,083 --> 01:24:02,783
EVIDENCE TOGETHER, THAT ISA VERY, VERY STRONG CASE.
2640
01:24:02,785 --> 01:24:04,051
A VERY, VERY STRONG CASE.IF IT WAS JUST ONE OR THE OTHER,
2641
01:24:04,053 --> 01:24:05,619
IF IT WAS JUST ONE OR THE OTHER,IT WOULDN'T BE AS STRONG.
2642
01:24:05,621 --> 01:24:06,954
IT WOULDN'T BE AS STRONG.>> narrator: WITHIN THE CHUMASH
2643
01:24:06,956 --> 01:24:09,323
>> narrator: WITHIN THE CHUMASHTRIBE, DNA TESTING IS ALREADY
2644
01:24:09,325 --> 01:24:10,891
TRIBE, DNA TESTING IS ALREADYGOING ON TO DETERMINE THE ORIGIN
2645
01:24:10,893 --> 01:24:12,559
GOING ON TO DETERMINE THE ORIGINOF ITS PEOPLE.
2646
01:24:12,561 --> 01:24:14,261
OF ITS PEOPLE.>> WE CAN SEE THROUGH THE STUDY
2647
01:24:14,263 --> 01:24:15,963
>> WE CAN SEE THROUGH THE STUDYOF MITOCHONDRIAL DNA THAT
2648
01:24:15,965 --> 01:24:17,965
OF MITOCHONDRIAL DNA THATCHUMASH INDIANS HAD DIFFERENT
2649
01:24:17,967 --> 01:24:19,266
CHUMASH INDIANS HAD DIFFERENTPOPULATION ORIGINS THAN
2650
01:24:19,268 --> 01:24:20,534
POPULATION ORIGINS THANTHE PEOPLE LIVING TO THE SOUTH
2651
01:24:20,536 --> 01:24:21,869
THE PEOPLE LIVING TO THE SOUTHOF THE CHUMASH, THE GABRIELINO
2652
01:24:21,871 --> 01:24:22,769
OF THE CHUMASH, THE GABRIELINOINDIANS.
2653
01:24:22,771 --> 01:24:23,704
INDIANS.THE CHUMASH ARE ALSO DIFFERENT
2654
01:24:23,706 --> 01:24:24,872
THE CHUMASH ARE ALSO DIFFERENTTHAN THE PEOPLE LIVING INLAND
2655
01:24:24,874 --> 01:24:26,907
THAN THE PEOPLE LIVING INLANDFROM THEM IN THE CENTRAL VALLEY
2656
01:24:26,909 --> 01:24:27,875
FROM THEM IN THE CENTRAL VALLEYIN TERMS OF THEIR POPULATION
2657
01:24:27,877 --> 01:24:29,409
IN TERMS OF THEIR POPULATIONORIGINS.
2658
01:24:29,411 --> 01:24:30,711
ORIGINS.>> narrator: THE DNA HAS YET
2659
01:24:30,713 --> 01:24:31,979
>> narrator: THE DNA HAS YETTO PROVE A POLYNESIAN
2660
01:24:31,981 --> 01:24:33,280
TO PROVE A POLYNESIANCONNECTION.
2661
01:24:33,282 --> 01:24:35,082
CONNECTION.>> THERE'S A SPECIFIC MARKER IN
2662
01:24:35,084 --> 01:24:36,283
>> THERE'S A SPECIFIC MARKER INMITOCHONDRIAL DNA FOUND
2663
01:24:36,285 --> 01:24:37,584
MITOCHONDRIAL DNA FOUNDAMONG POLYNESIANS THAT SET THEM
2664
01:24:37,586 --> 01:24:38,785
AMONG POLYNESIANS THAT SET THEMAPART FROM THE REST OF
2665
01:24:38,787 --> 01:24:39,753
APART FROM THE REST OFTHE WORLD.
2666
01:24:39,755 --> 01:24:41,288
THE WORLD.>> narrator: THAT MARKER IS WHAT
2667
01:24:41,290 --> 01:24:42,456
>> narrator: THAT MARKER IS WHATRESEARCHERS HERE ARE HOPING
2668
01:24:42,458 --> 01:24:43,824
RESEARCHERS HERE ARE HOPINGTO FIND IN NEW BONES
2669
01:24:43,826 --> 01:24:46,093
TO FIND IN NEW BONESCOLLECTED FROM MOCHA ISLAND.
2670
01:24:46,095 --> 01:24:47,895
COLLECTED FROM MOCHA ISLAND.WHILE BONES FOUND IN THE '90s
2671
01:24:47,897 --> 01:24:49,963
WHILE BONES FOUND IN THE '90sHAD POLYNESIAN TRAITS,
2672
01:24:49,965 --> 01:24:51,498
HAD POLYNESIAN TRAITS,DNA TESTING OF THEM COULDN'T
2673
01:24:51,500 --> 01:24:53,300
DNA TESTING OF THEM COULDN'TBE COMPLETED BECAUSE SCIENTISTS
2674
01:24:53,302 --> 01:24:58,405
BE COMPLETED BECAUSE SCIENTISTSCOULDN'T GET USABLE SAMPLES.
2675
01:24:58,407 --> 01:25:00,407
COULDN'T GET USABLE SAMPLES.>> WE NEED TO DIG FOR MORE
2676
01:25:00,409 --> 01:25:01,441
>> WE NEED TO DIG FOR MOREFRESH BONES.
2677
01:25:01,443 --> 01:25:02,476
FRESH BONES.THAT'S THE MAIN PURPOSE,
2678
01:25:02,478 --> 01:25:06,280
THAT'S THE MAIN PURPOSE,THE NEXT STEP IN THIS RESEARCH.
2679
01:25:06,282 --> 01:25:08,015
THE NEXT STEP IN THIS RESEARCH.THIS LITTLE PLACE, THIS LITTLE
2680
01:25:08,017 --> 01:25:09,349
THIS LITTLE PLACE, THIS LITTLEMOUND HERE IS THE PLACE WHERE
2681
01:25:09,351 --> 01:25:11,418
MOUND HERE IS THE PLACE WHERETHEY SETTLED DOWN ABOUT
2682
01:25:11,420 --> 01:25:12,986
THEY SETTLED DOWN ABOUT1,000 YEARS AGO.
2683
01:25:12,988 --> 01:25:14,821
1,000 YEARS AGO.90% OF THE SITE IS STILL HERE,
2684
01:25:14,823 --> 01:25:16,323
90% OF THE SITE IS STILL HERE,NOT DISCOVERED, SO THERE'S MANY,
2685
01:25:16,325 --> 01:25:18,058
NOT DISCOVERED, SO THERE'S MANY,MANY ARTIFACTS AND DEPOSITS
2686
01:25:18,060 --> 01:25:19,660
MANY ARTIFACTS AND DEPOSITSWITHOUT ANY DISTURBANCE,
2687
01:25:19,662 --> 01:25:21,061
WITHOUT ANY DISTURBANCE,SO THERE'S A LOT OF MATERIAL TO
2688
01:25:21,063 --> 01:25:23,130
SO THERE'S A LOT OF MATERIAL TODISCOVER, TO FIND MORE HUMAN
2689
01:25:23,132 --> 01:25:25,132
DISCOVER, TO FIND MORE HUMANBONES, TO TAKE DNA TO PROVE
2690
01:25:25,134 --> 01:25:26,166
BONES, TO TAKE DNA TO PROVEIT'S POLYNESIAN.
2691
01:25:26,168 --> 01:25:28,835
IT'S POLYNESIAN.DNA IS THE FINAL TEST.
2692
01:25:28,837 --> 01:25:29,703
DNA IS THE FINAL TEST.>> narrator: THE STUDY OF
2693
01:25:29,705 --> 01:25:31,038
>> narrator: THE STUDY OFNEW BONES IS EXPECTED TO GET
2694
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:34,007
NEW BONES IS EXPECTED TO GETUNDER WAY BY THE END OF 2010.
2695
01:25:34,009 --> 01:25:35,542
UNDER WAY BY THE END OF 2010.RAMIREZ BELIEVES THEIR FINDINGS
2696
01:25:35,544 --> 01:25:36,610
RAMIREZ BELIEVES THEIR FINDINGSWILL ONLY CONFIRM WHAT
2697
01:25:36,612 --> 01:25:38,145
WILL ONLY CONFIRM WHATHE SAYS A GROWING NUMBER
2698
01:25:38,147 --> 01:25:43,016
HE SAYS A GROWING NUMBEROF SCIENTISTS ALREADY BELIEVE.
2699
01:25:43,018 --> 01:25:44,151
OF SCIENTISTS ALREADY BELIEVE.>> WHEN YOU REALIZE THAT
2700
01:25:44,153 --> 01:25:45,852
>> WHEN YOU REALIZE THATPOLYNESIANS WERE CAPABLE OF
2701
01:25:45,854 --> 01:25:47,854
POLYNESIANS WERE CAPABLE OFDISCOVERING THESE REMOTE SPECKS
2702
01:25:47,856 --> 01:25:50,190
DISCOVERING THESE REMOTE SPECKSOF LAND THROUGHOUT THE PACIFIC,
2703
01:25:50,192 --> 01:25:51,725
OF LAND THROUGHOUT THE PACIFIC,HOW IS IT THEY COULD POSSIBLY
2704
01:25:51,727 --> 01:25:54,027
HOW IS IT THEY COULD POSSIBLYMISS THESE BIG ISLANDS
2705
01:25:54,029 --> 01:25:55,228
MISS THESE BIG ISLANDSOF NORTH AND SOUTH AMERICA,
2706
01:25:55,230 --> 01:25:58,832
OF NORTH AND SOUTH AMERICA,THESE ENORMOUS LANDMASSES?
2707
01:25:58,834 --> 01:26:00,200
THESE ENORMOUS LANDMASSES?>> I BELIEVE THAT POLYNESIANS
2708
01:26:00,202 --> 01:26:01,702
>> I BELIEVE THAT POLYNESIANSMADE IT TO SOUTH AMERICA
2709
01:26:01,704 --> 01:26:03,170
MADE IT TO SOUTH AMERICASOME TIME BETWEEN THE PERIOD
2710
01:26:03,172 --> 01:26:05,706
SOME TIME BETWEEN THE PERIODOF A.D. 1000 TO 1200.
2711
01:26:05,708 --> 01:26:07,607
OF A.D. 1000 TO 1200.>> I THINK WE'RE ABSOLUTELY SURE
2712
01:26:07,609 --> 01:26:09,142
>> I THINK WE'RE ABSOLUTELY SURETHAT THE POLYNESIANS MADE IT TO
2713
01:26:09,144 --> 01:26:10,744
THAT THE POLYNESIANS MADE IT TOSOUTH AMERICA BEFORE COLUMBUS.
2714
01:26:10,746 --> 01:26:12,079
SOUTH AMERICA BEFORE COLUMBUS.I MEAN, I THINK THE ODDS OF THAT
2715
01:26:12,081 --> 01:26:15,082
I MEAN, I THINK THE ODDS OF THATARE IN THE 99.9999 RANGE.
2716
01:26:15,084 --> 01:26:17,017
ARE IN THE 99.9999 RANGE.IT'S ALMOST FLAT-EARTH LEVEL
2717
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IT'S ALMOST FLAT-EARTH LEVELTO DISBELIEVE THAT POLYNESIANS
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TO DISBELIEVE THAT POLYNESIANSMADE IT TO SOUTH AMERICA.
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MADE IT TO SOUTH AMERICA.>> THAT'S THE JOB OF
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>> THAT'S THE JOB OFARCHAEOLOGISTS.
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ARCHAEOLOGISTS.WE NEED TO SPREAD WHAT WE FIND
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WE NEED TO SPREAD WHAT WE FINDMORE WIDELY.
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MORE WIDELY.WE NEED TO TELL PEOPLE MORE
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WE NEED TO TELL PEOPLE MOREABOUT WHAT WE'RE FINDING,
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ABOUT WHAT WE'RE FINDING,AND WE NEED TO REWRITE THOSE
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AND WE NEED TO REWRITE THOSEHISTORY BOOKS AND GET IT
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HISTORY BOOKS AND GET ITOUT THERE.
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OUT THERE.LARGE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE
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LARGE NUMBERS OF PEOPLEPROBABLY STILL DON'T EVEN KNOW
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01:26:34,403 --> 01:26:35,769
PROBABLY STILL DON'T EVEN KNOWTHAT THE VIKINGS GOT HERE BEFORE
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THAT THE VIKINGS GOT HERE BEFORECOLUMBUS.
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COLUMBUS.>> narrator: WHAT MIGHT
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>> narrator: WHAT MIGHTULTIMATELY PROVE TO BE THE NEXT
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ULTIMATELY PROVE TO BE THE NEXTL'ANSE AUX MEADOWS-LIKE
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L'ANSE AUX MEADOWS-LIKEDISCOVERY COULD BE UNEARTHED
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DISCOVERY COULD BE UNEARTHEDAT ANY TIME.
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AT ANY TIME.THERE ARE NO LESS THAN
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THERE ARE NO LESS THANA DOZEN CULTURES WITH TALES
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A DOZEN CULTURES WITH TALESOF EARLY VOYAGES AT SEA,
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OF EARLY VOYAGES AT SEA,VOYAGES SAID TO HAVE CULMINATED
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VOYAGES SAID TO HAVE CULMINATEDIN THE DISCOVERY OF AMERICA.
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IN THE DISCOVERY OF AMERICA.>> THE EXCITEMENT OF ARCHAEOLOGY
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01:26:55,791 --> 01:26:57,190
>> THE EXCITEMENT OF ARCHAEOLOGYIS THAT WE ARE OFTEN SURPRISED
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01:26:57,192 --> 01:26:59,059
IS THAT WE ARE OFTEN SURPRISEDAND THAT OUR IDEAS CHANGE
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01:26:59,061 --> 01:26:59,960
AND THAT OUR IDEAS CHANGEBECAUSE OF NEW THINGS WE LEARN,
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01:26:59,962 --> 01:27:01,261
BECAUSE OF NEW THINGS WE LEARN,AND THAT'S GOOD.
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AND THAT'S GOOD.>> THE WORLD'S GREATEST MUSEUM
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>> THE WORLD'S GREATEST MUSEUMIS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SEAS,
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IS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SEAS,WITH SOME ESTIMATED 3 MILLION
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WITH SOME ESTIMATED 3 MILLIONOR MORE SHIPWRECKS DOWN THERE,
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01:27:09,104 --> 01:27:11,238
OR MORE SHIPWRECKS DOWN THERE,THAT ALL SORTS OF STORIES REMAIN
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01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:12,439
THAT ALL SORTS OF STORIES REMAINTO BE WRITTEN,
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01:27:12,441 --> 01:27:14,241
TO BE WRITTEN,THAT NEW CHAPTERS, FORGOTTEN
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01:27:14,243 --> 01:27:16,042
THAT NEW CHAPTERS, FORGOTTENPAGES OF THE HISTORY BOOKS
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01:27:16,044 --> 01:27:17,277
PAGES OF THE HISTORY BOOKSWILL BE PUT BACK
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WILL BE PUT BACKTHAT TELL US OF OUR TIME
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01:27:18,480 --> 01:27:20,113
THAT TELL US OF OUR TIMEON THIS PLANET, THAT SPEAK TO
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01:27:20,115 --> 01:27:21,448
ON THIS PLANET, THAT SPEAK TOWHO WE ARE AS A SPECIES
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01:27:21,450 --> 01:27:23,416
WHO WE ARE AS A SPECIESAND WHAT WE'RE CAPABLE OF.
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AND WHAT WE'RE CAPABLE OF.>> narrator: ON LAND AND BY SEA,
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>> narrator: ON LAND AND BY SEA,THE EARLIEST EXPLORERS CAME
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THE EARLIEST EXPLORERS CAMETO THE NEW WORLD.
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01:27:28,924 --> 01:27:30,857
TO THE NEW WORLD.THE PAST IS LITTERED WITH CLUES
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01:27:30,859 --> 01:27:32,259
THE PAST IS LITTERED WITH CLUESAS TO WHO THEY WERE,
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01:27:32,261 --> 01:27:33,493
AS TO WHO THEY WERE,WHEN THEY CAME,
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WHEN THEY CAME,AND WHERE THEY WENT.
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AND WHERE THEY WENT.NOW SCIENCE HAS THE ABILITY
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NOW SCIENCE HAS THE ABILITYTO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT ABOUT
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01:27:38,700 --> 01:27:40,300
TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT ABOUTTHE TRUE STORY OF AMERICA'S
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THE TRUE STORY OF AMERICA'SEARLIEST PIONEERS.
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EARLIEST PIONEERS.IT MAY ONLY BE A MATTER OF TIME
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01:27:44,606 --> 01:27:45,739
IT MAY ONLY BE A MATTER OF TIMEBEFORE THE QUESTION OF
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01:27:45,741 --> 01:27:47,807
BEFORE THE QUESTION OFWHO REALLY DISCOVERED AMERICA
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WHO REALLY DISCOVERED AMERICATURNS INTO A QUESTION
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TURNS INTO A QUESTIONOF WHO DIDN'T?
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