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In 1920, the leader of an obscure
German political party
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made what seemed at the time
an insignificant decision.
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Adolf Hitler adopted a symbol
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for his National Democratic
Socialist Party.
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It was a symbol which,
over the next two decades,
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would become synonymous
with hatred, fear,
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and a regime
that slaughtered millions.
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The swastika.
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The swastika means Nazism.
It means evil, death and genocide.
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In Auschwitz,
it was an emblem that I hated
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and I didn't even want to see it.
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But the swastika
has a long and complex history.
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For thousands of years,
this has been a religious symbol,
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with a sacred past. A sign of
benevolence, luck and good fortune.
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And for the nearly one billion
Hindus around the world today,
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it lies at the heart of their
religious practices and beliefs.
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For me personally, the swastika
means hope. It means purity,
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it means auspiciousness.
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The swastika will be used by Hindus
to evoke a sense of the sacred.
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To draw the attention of the divine
to human undertakings.
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But because of its recent past,
in the West, the Hindu swastika
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has sometimes provoked hostility.
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I've got a tattoo
of a swastika on my lip.
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And when I got it done, the tattoo
artist was a little taken aback
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and he was like, "Ah, Jew killer."
And I said, "No."
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In the week when Hindus
across Britain are celebrating
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the holy festival of Diwali, we tell
the story of their sacred symbol.
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And we bring together
members of the communities
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for whom it has
the most potent meaning,
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to see if a new experience
of the swastika
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could break down
long-held prejudices.
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It's very beautiful. I mean,
it's obviously quite different,
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being in gold
compared to red and black.
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Can Hindus restore
the reputation of a symbol
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they believe invokes
the blessings of the divine?
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Sunday morning.
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Chalfont Cricket Club
in leafy Buckinghamshire.
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A place associated with English teas
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and the gentle competitiveness
of the weekend sportsman.
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Certainly not a place
you'd expect to see a symbol
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most commonly associated with the
fascist regimes of pre-war Germany.
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But today is an exception.
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The club is host
to a Hindu wedding celebration,
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in which the swastika
plays a vital role.
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As the guests congregate
and the happy couple arrive,
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the Hindu priest
has an important task...
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..Placing a swastika
in front of the sacred area
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where the couple
will sit during the ceremony.
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And the meaning of this swastika
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is a world away
from that of Nazi Germany.
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It's a diagram.
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The moment you look at the diagram,
it should invoke the peace
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within you.
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So it has the swastika.
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"Swasti" means well-being, "swastika"
- asking the well-being of the gods.
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A statue of their elephant-headed
god, Ganesh,
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is placed at the centre
of the swastika.
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Ganesh is the remover
of all obstacles.
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And as the priest rotates him,
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it's believed any hindrances
to the ceremony are removed.
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For Hindus, the swastika
isn't only a sacred power for good,
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but an essential element
of any rite of passage.
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Ramesh Pattni
is the father of the groom.
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The word "swastik" actually
comes from the Sanskrit word
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for a state of auspiciousness.
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Wherever any ceremony is performed
- and Hindus have got 16 ceremonies
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during the lifetime,
and each one of them
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will have one way or the other
in which the swastik is represented.
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In the wedding, the swastik,
it is the most important.
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Because the wedding ceremony
marks a transition
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from one period of life to another.
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HE CHANTS
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And therefore all
the auspiciousness is required.
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Warm the hands and get up! Yes!
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It's the first exercise as wife
and husband!
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As unlikely as it might seem
to those not brought up
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in the Hindu faith,
for the Hindus here today,
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a wedding without a swastika
would be unusual.
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I now declare you wife and
husband. May God bless you.
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You look beautiful.
You'll live happily ever after.
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For this young couple,
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the swastika ensures their marriage
is blessed by the gods.
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It's a far cry
from its associations in the West.
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Most western people when they see it,
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they see a Nazi German symbol.
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Shaunaka Rishi Das has been a Hindu
priest for more than 30 years.
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It is interesting
that Hindus themselves,
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they're brought up with the swastika,
it's perfectly normal for them.
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You see all the children
at the wedding,
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they're just seeing it from birth.
Then they go to school
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and learn that the Nazis used it
in this way.
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But you have to understand that
here's a tradition that's ancient.
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And the Germans borrow it from
a different culture and misuse it
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over less than two decades,
and all of a sudden it develops
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an internationally bad reputation.
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HE CHANTS
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Of all the symbols produced
by ancient and modern man,
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this is the most contradictory.
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And its origins
are shrouded in mystery.
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Images of the swastika
have been found across the world.
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And the earliest examples
date back thousands of years.
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Well, the swastika's one of those
strange symbols that you find
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in lots of different cultures.
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You see it in China and Japan,
you see it in Mongolia,
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you see it in the ancient
Mediterranean world, in Greece,
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even over in Native American cultures
and in the British Isles as well.
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But despite the swastika's
prolific-ness,
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its original meaning is an enigma.
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Perhaps it's just a simple,
elegant geometry.
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Maybe it was a solar symbol.
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It's so universal that we can't
really find a first point of use,
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it just has a kind of instinctive
appeal across the world.
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Some of the most ancient swastikas
were found here, in India.
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And over the centuries, it's been
adopted across the Subcontinent
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by many different religions.
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Hindus, Buddhists
and Jains all see it a holy symbol.
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It's displayed just about
everywhere, to bring good fortune.
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And there's one time of year
that it's specially prominent.
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At the Hindu festival
of Diwali.
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It's a five day celebration
to mark the Hindu New Year.
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Also known as the festival
of lights,
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it marks the triumph
of good over evil.
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And in India, the streets
are a riot of noise and colour.
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The festival honours deities such
as the goddess of wealth, Lakshmi,
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and so the swastika is painted
on the account books
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for the new financial year,
to ensure prosperity.
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But it's not just in the East
that the swastika features
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in Diwali festivities.
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This is Neasden Temple
in North West London.
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It's the spiritual home
to thousands of Hindus.
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And every Diwali,
the ladies of the temple
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spend hours making an incredible
display, known as a rangoli,
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like this one, in which the
swastika plays a central role.
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Rangoli patterns
are literal forms of art
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and they're created by hand,
generally by women who use rice
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or coloured rice.
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Avni Chag has been celebrating
Diwali here for most of her life.
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Diwali represents
the festival of lights.
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If you go back to physics lessons,
you'll always be taught
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how the spectrum of colours
originates from white light.
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And I think that's completely
honoured within these beautiful
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geometric patterns and these
beautiful designs that are created
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during Diwali. And most commonly
you will see the Hindu swastika.
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And for some it may mean prosperity,
for some it may mean good luck.
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For me personally,
the swastika means hope.
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For Hindus who've grown up
with the swastika,
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finding out that this emblem
of light has been used
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for the darkest of purposes,
can be horrifying.
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I was pretty much born
with the symbol surrounding me,
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and at special occasions,
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festivals,
this symbol would be prevalent.
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And then when I finally started
studying about the Second World War
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in history lessons at school,
I freaked out.
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I saw the symbol
and I was just completely gobsmacked.
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Seeing it in this textbook associated
with the Holocaust, with genocide,
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with racial intolerance,
was quite a shock.
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And I wondered how it could've been
mutated from something so positive
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to something to so negative.
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So how did this sacred symbol
come to symbolise
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one of the most evil regimes
in history?
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The swastika's metamorphosis
began with an archaeological dig
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in the 19th century.
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In 1874, excavations started
at a site believed to be
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the ancient city of Troy in Turkey.
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They were led
by a German businessman
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named Heinrich Schliemann.
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Schliemann was an adventurer
and his real mission
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was to find the real Troy,
the Troy of the Homeric epics.
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Now, as he dug, he found spheres.
Strange spheres with an equator
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round them bearing the image
of what we would call the swastika
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and plenty of fragments
of pottery bearing swastikas.
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What Schliemann had uncovered
was to have deadly consequences.
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His work would inadvertently lay
the foundations for a new mythology
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of the swastika to be constructed.
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One which would transform it
from a sacred symbol of benevolence
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into the Nazi emblem
of the Aryan master race.
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Now, Schliemann didn't know
what these symbols were.
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But there were scholars who were
willing to interpret these objects
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and these symbols for him.
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One of these men was a man
called Emile Burnouf.
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Burnouf was a scholar
of ancient Indian literature,
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and it was to a Hindu
epic called the Rig Veda
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that he turned to try and make
sense of Schliemann's find.
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In the Rig Vedas, there are a people
called the Arias mentioned,
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and in the lexicon of the Rig Vedas,
the word "swastika" is mentioned.
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And scholars like Burnouf put
the swastika together with the Arias,
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and said, "Ah! This was the ancient
symbol of these people, the Arias,
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"and these people were invaders,
warriors, who came from the North,
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"who displaced the existing
people of India.
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"And these were the same people
who we find represented
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"in the pottery fragments of Troy."
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Two entirely unconnected mythologies
were becoming one.
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The people of ancient Troy
were being fused with the Aryans
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of the Hindu Rig Vedas.
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And the swastika was the symbol
that Burnouf claimed united them.
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So, really, the swastika fragment
became for pseudo-scholars
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like Burnouf, the perfect excuse
to build a new mythology,
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and invent a single pan-European
colonial warrior race
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using the swastika as their emblem.
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For Hitler, a symbol with such
a mythology - albeit invented -
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was the perfect emblem
for his ambitions for Germany.
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The Nazis were involved in this huge
project of trying to create
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a new history for themselves.
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They weren't really happy with their
association with Christian history
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because they saw that as having
Hebrew, Jewish roots.
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And it was that notion of a history
that was being kind of imagined
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out of these different symbols and
sources that Hitler wanted to use
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to give the Nazi movement
its own foundation.
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Within decades, the swastika had
been ripped from its ancient
religious roots,
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and become shorthand for the Nazis
and their chilling agenda.
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It was perhaps the most successful
example of cultural theft
in history.
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When you look at the swastika,
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you don't think this is the symbol
of Hinduism.
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No, the swastika means Nazism.
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It means evil, death and genocide.
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With its new connotations across
Europe so entrenched, it
seems unlikely
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that the Hindu symbol can ever rid
itself of the shadow of Nazism.
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Especially, when for those who
suffered directly in the Holocaust,
it unlocks terrifying memories.
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I was taken into my first
camp at 11 and a half.
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It was just a horrendous place.
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Arek Hersh lost 81 members
of his family under the Nazis.
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SS men were there...
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..and they were beating people,
and hanging people and...
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..just a few of us survived.
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But you see the swastika
everywhere.
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I abhorred it, actually.
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I hated to look at it even...
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..because I suffered very much
under it.
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And even for young Jews today, it's
a symbol they still struggle with.
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I do shudder when I see it.
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It's something that is very infamous
in the Jewish community.
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And it's something that
I think it would be
very difficult...to change.
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The Nazi theft of the
Hindu sacred symbol changed
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the perception of the swastika
in the west, forever.
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And yet at the time in India,
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it was something most Hindus
were unaware of.
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The vast majority of Hindus
especially in rural areas,
mostly illiterate,
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obviously did not know for a very
long time
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how it had been used
by the Nazis.
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But for the educated classes, I think
there was a sense of being appalled.
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And amongst Hindus today,
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feelings against the Nazis' theft
of the swastika run high.
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Germany thought they can hijack
this sacred symbol
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from the Vedic culture
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and use it you know to enforce
their white supremacy and all that.
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And, people are very angry and upset
that a sacred symbol so dear to them
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in their religion is hijacked by
somebody like this.
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After the war, the feeling
against the swastika was so strong,
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that in Germany and Poland,
it was banned.
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And since then it's become
shorthand, not for divine blessings,
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but for race hatred.
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It's a misappropriation that's had
a real impact on Hindus today.
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The difficult thing is that the
swastika that Hitler uses
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and the swastika that Indian culture
uses, really do look a lot the same.
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Often the Indian swastika will have
dots between the four arms,
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but there aren't any definite
differences that you can always use
to separate them out.
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And that can make it hard for people
to distinguish which symbol
they're looking at.
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And it's this confusion, in a
society with little understanding
of Hinduism,
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that's led to the Hindu symbol
inadvertently finding itself
under attack.
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In 2007 German MEPs proposed a ban
of the public use of swastikas
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right across the European Union.
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It was a proposition that upset
many Hindus.
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The British Hindus woke up to this
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and they carried out a campaign
to bring awareness
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to the members of
the British Parliament...
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..to make them understand how sacred
this swastika is to the Hindu faith.
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The British Hindu response was that
this was a Eurocentric proposal.
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It wasn't taking into account
the bigger picture.
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Millions of people use this
symbol on a daily basis.
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What had started out as an anxiety
about Nazism,
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had turned into a fight
for religious freedom.
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If Europe wants to be seen as
a truly liberal society,
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then it has to really be
liberal in the bigger picture.
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It has to let go of its history
maybe...to look at how this symbol
has been used in the world
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in such a positive way for thousands
of years, compared to
the European historical aberration
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that needs to be recognised
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but also needs to be balanced
with the bigger picture.
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The reaction stopped the ban
in its tracks...
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..and British Hindus were free
to display their sacred symbol
once more.
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But even though it's not illegal
in Britain to show the swastika,
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Hindus who do display it, sometimes
face misunderstandings
and even insults.
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One of the things about Hindus
is we don't always explain
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ourselves very well and children
if they take into school
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something which displays
the swastika, if their friends
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and even the teachers don't know the
meaning, they sometimes get chastised
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or even worse, you know bullied, for
being associated with Nazism.
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Bharti Taylor spends much of her
time teaching children
about Hinduism.
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It's a holy symbol for us, whether
you draw it other way or this way.
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For her, the key to Hindus being
able to show the sign without fear,
is knowledge.
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I think we should have more education
so that everybody understands
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that the symbol is meant to be for
the good, not an evil symbol.
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But can Western, European
perceptions really be changed?
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Well, where better to start, than
with the community for whom
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the swastika holds the greatest
fears...the Jews.
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Today, Josh Dubell, a member of
a London synagogue,
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has been invited to the local
Hindu Temple in Neasden.
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The Hindus want to show him the
beautiful rangoli they've created.
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and to talk to him about their
connection with the swastika,
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in the hope that he might begin to
see it in a different light.
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If I saw a swastika on the wall
in my local area,
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I would report it straight away as
an anti-semitic attack.
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It's something that is synonymous
with erm...with hate crimes.
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I can understand that when Josh
comes he'll come with some
idea of the swastika,
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and so it'll be interesting to see
how he feels when he does see it,
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when it's portrayed within
the temple.
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I don't know that much about it
as a Hindu symbol.
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So I really hope to learn what it
means to the Hindu faith.
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Avni is going to show him round.
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Hello. Hello. Hi, Josh,
nice to meet you.
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Nice to meet you too, how are you?
I'm good, welcome to Neasden Temple.
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Thank you, very happy to be here.
Yeah?
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And the first swastika Josh
encounters appears before
he even gets inside.
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The main symbol that I'd like to
point out to you is on the doors.
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And that's the swastika.
Ah, yes.
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And I guess what that represents
is that it's a sign of welcome,
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and it's welcoming and wishing them
good luck as they enter
the temple to pray. Mmm.
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It's really interesting. I mean me
and my people seeing that
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symbol in the past hasn't really
provided me with that luck, but...
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Especially as defined as
you can see it here, yeah.
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How do you feel about it?
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It's, it's just a little erm...
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..taken aback a little bit by
the erm...seeing it like this.
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It's obviously quite different being
gold compared to red and black.
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But it's erm...it's really,
really beautiful.
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Shall we go on in?
Yeah, sure.
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The swastikas on the doors had
a real impact on Josh, and what
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lies inside is even more striking.
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How do you feel now seeing this?
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I mean this is more in red now.
Oh, right.
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So this is called a rangoli and I
guess it's an expression of worship.
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And you'll find it at times of
really big religious occasions
or ceremonies.
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The swastika represents prosperity
and good luck and wealth.
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How do you feel like in terms of
the shape or is it something
that's different?
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Obviously to me, it's the most
anti-Jewish symbol that
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I've ever seen in terms of the death
of a lot of people in my religion.
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And er...I mean it seems a little
bit less harsh.
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OK, yeah, because of the curl?
Yeah, I think so.
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You see, when I was growing up,
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I always had this positive
view of the swastika,
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so I never understood how it could
mean something, you know, that
it may mean to you.
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As Josh's visit draws to an end,
he's got a lot to think about.
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I was taken aback on the doors
but now you talk about it
a little bit more,
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and that's why I think dialogue
is really, really important.
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We talk a lot about what separates
us, but hopefully we can
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use this symbol to come together
and talk about the things that
we have in common.
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Avni and Josh's experiences
of the swastika are worlds apart,
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but their meeting has started to
break down long-held prejudice.
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It's still very, very strange
and a little alien to me,
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but it's actually changed some
of my opinions about the swastika.
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Maybe it can be used for good.
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I think Josh's visit is like a first
step in the Jewish community
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coming to understand that the
swastika means so many
different things.
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He understood that it doesn't
necessarily have to mean one
thing, universally.
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It can mean different
things for different people.
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I don't know whether the
Jewish community will feel
the same way as I do,
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but you know what, hopefully we can
really start to educate ourselves
that this symbol
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can be used for something positive.
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Perhaps this ancient Hindu
symbol, which for so long has held
such different meanings
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for these two religious communities,
might actually bring them
closer together.
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And as Hindus across Britain prepare
to celebrate Diwali,
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the festival that marks
the banishment of darkness
and the coming of light,
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maybe it's a first step towards
the swastika being reclaimed
for good.
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I think over time the swastika will
be redeemed in Europe.
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Just because something in one
context looks bad doesn't
mean we slam it.
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We have to look at the bigger
picture always.
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So the change will come,
it'll just take time.
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Wouldn't it be nice if one day there
are people who saw the swastika
being used in public
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and said, "oh that's
an Indian symbol.
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"Hindus use it to signify
auspiciousness and blessing."
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And when they later come to
see the Nazi use of the symbol,
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they think, "Gosh that's horrific,
that's really inappropriate."
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If we can get to that point then
finally Hitler will really
have been defeated.
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