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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:05,217 --> 00:01:07,830 There was no emotion in my blood. 2 00:01:07,935 --> 00:01:11,041 There was no anger. There was nothing. 3 00:01:11,145 --> 00:01:14,213 It was dead silence in my brain. 4 00:01:14,317 --> 00:01:16,838 Dead, cold quiet. 5 00:01:16,943 --> 00:01:20,509 He looked at me, he walked past me, 6 00:01:20,613 --> 00:01:22,719 and then I heard my head. 7 00:01:22,823 --> 00:01:25,890 It said, "Do it, do it, do it, do it", 8 00:01:25,994 --> 00:01:28,391 over and over again. 9 00:02:18,904 --> 00:02:21,977 The "Catcher in the Rye" of my generation. 10 00:02:22,081 --> 00:02:24,898 Chapter 27. 11 00:02:53,122 --> 00:02:56,901 My whole life has pointed in one direction. 12 00:02:57,006 --> 00:02:59,364 I can see that now. 13 00:02:59,469 --> 00:03:02,793 There's never been any choice for me. 14 00:03:14,101 --> 00:03:18,145 You never find your identity by looking for it. 15 00:03:38,125 --> 00:03:41,654 They say the United States has had its day in the sun, 16 00:03:41,759 --> 00:03:44,366 that our nation has passed its zenith. 17 00:03:44,471 --> 00:03:47,161 They expect you to tell your children 18 00:03:47,265 --> 00:03:52,584 that the American people no longer have the will to cope with their problems, 19 00:03:52,689 --> 00:03:57,129 that the future will be one of sacrifice and few opportunities. 20 00:03:57,233 --> 00:04:01,258 My fellow citizens, I utterly reject that view. 21 00:04:57,909 --> 00:05:01,944 - Hey, man, you're late. - I thought you weren't in till Monday. 22 00:05:02,048 --> 00:05:05,278 The boss called. Arthur's ill. The new guy ain't here yet. 23 00:05:05,382 --> 00:05:08,070 You're kidding. It's almost 11:30. 24 00:05:08,174 --> 00:05:11,741 I know. I've been here since seven. 25 00:05:11,845 --> 00:05:15,161 ...will get things under way there in the music hall. 26 00:05:15,266 --> 00:05:18,174 What's going on over there? 27 00:05:19,260 --> 00:05:21,873 Someone jammed gum in the locks. 28 00:05:21,977 --> 00:05:24,084 - Animals. - That's what I said. 29 00:05:24,188 --> 00:05:25,879 ...election day. 30 00:05:25,983 --> 00:05:30,257 Before going to the polls, voters want to understand the issues. 31 00:05:30,361 --> 00:05:32,588 - Have you called in? - It's all yours. 32 00:05:32,693 --> 00:05:34,674 Voters will have an opportunity 33 00:05:34,779 --> 00:05:40,638 to see and hear the major-party candidates for the presidency 34 00:05:40,742 --> 00:05:44,815 state their views on issues that affect us all. 35 00:05:47,364 --> 00:05:51,687 The candidates will debate questions on domestic, economic, 36 00:05:51,791 --> 00:05:54,443 foreign-policy and national-security issues. 37 00:05:53,210 --> 00:05:55,270 The questions are going to be posed 38 00:05:55,374 --> 00:05:58,693 by a panel of distinguished journalists who are here with me. 39 00:05:58,797 --> 00:06:04,025 They are: Marvin Stone... 40 00:06:10,467 --> 00:06:13,126 Yes, hello? 41 00:06:13,230 --> 00:06:14,669 Hello? 42 00:06:14,773 --> 00:06:17,588 Bang, bang. You're dead. 43 00:06:17,692 --> 00:06:19,555 Hello? 44 00:06:42,953 --> 00:06:47,193 12 hours of work and I still can't sleep. 45 00:06:47,297 --> 00:06:49,948 The days go on and on, 46 00:06:50,052 --> 00:06:52,200 and they don't end. 47 00:06:53,294 --> 00:06:56,785 My body fights me always. 48 00:06:56,889 --> 00:06:59,881 It won't sleep, it won't eat. 49 00:07:03,595 --> 00:07:06,263 The headaches are getting worse. 50 00:07:29,699 --> 00:07:31,897 Thank you. 51 00:07:32,001 --> 00:07:34,827 Hey. Mark. 52 00:07:37,372 --> 00:07:40,402 - Hey. - What are you doing? 53 00:07:40,506 --> 00:07:44,573 Well, it's very nice to see you too, Mark. 54 00:07:44,677 --> 00:07:47,495 - Everything OK over here? - Oh, yeah, sure. Fine. 55 00:07:47,599 --> 00:07:50,618 This is Makana. Makana, this is Mark. Mark is an old... 56 00:07:50,722 --> 00:07:53,206 - I'm her son. - Oh, you! 57 00:07:55,178 --> 00:07:57,460 Oh, don't listen to him. 58 00:07:57,564 --> 00:08:03,631 I was never much of a mother to him. We were more like best friends. Weren't we? 59 00:08:03,735 --> 00:08:06,840 Mind you, where we come from, that can be one and the same. 60 00:08:06,944 --> 00:08:10,307 Makana's gonna take me surfing. 61 00:08:12,025 --> 00:08:14,313 Bye. 62 00:08:17,155 --> 00:08:20,479 My mother was a dreamer, moody, 63 00:08:20,583 --> 00:08:23,438 right out of "The Glass Menagerie". 64 00:08:23,542 --> 00:08:28,274 She was afraid of getting old and said she'd commit suicide when she turned 50. 65 00:08:28,378 --> 00:08:31,779 She felt romantic about Charles Boyer, 66 00:08:31,883 --> 00:08:34,413 but remote from my father. 67 00:08:37,087 --> 00:08:39,868 I don't think I ever hugged my father. 68 00:08:39,972 --> 00:08:44,249 He never told me he loved me and he never said he was sorry. 69 00:08:44,353 --> 00:08:48,001 My mother always said he couldn't show these kinds of things, 70 00:08:48,105 --> 00:08:51,299 couldn't show any kind of emotional love. 71 00:08:55,811 --> 00:08:59,642 One time, he pushed my head in a plate of spaghetti. 72 00:09:03,318 --> 00:09:08,275 Sometimes I fantasised about getting a gun and blowing him away. 73 00:09:11,949 --> 00:09:15,483 She said she only married him to have me. 74 00:09:42,724 --> 00:09:47,469 Normal kids don't grow up to shoot ex-Beatles. 75 00:10:05,409 --> 00:10:09,656 All my life needed was a sense of someplace to go. 76 00:10:10,914 --> 00:10:15,237 I don't believe you should devote your life to morbid self-attention. 77 00:10:15,341 --> 00:10:20,494 I believe that one should become a person like other people. 78 00:10:27,761 --> 00:10:30,291 I was starting to hate people. 79 00:10:30,396 --> 00:10:34,765 The slightest rebuff or rejection would send me into a frenzy. 80 00:11:10,338 --> 00:11:13,124 Bang, bang. You're dead. 81 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,038 Bang, bang. 82 00:11:16,142 --> 00:11:18,292 You're dead. 83 00:11:38,694 --> 00:11:41,648 I began withdrawing from the world. 84 00:12:43,331 --> 00:12:47,458 I was losing everything I cared about. 85 00:13:21,403 --> 00:13:24,854 You know, things used to be OK. 86 00:13:26,074 --> 00:13:29,769 I just don't know if I can keep up, OK? 87 00:13:29,873 --> 00:13:33,359 If I can keep up with everything. 88 00:13:33,463 --> 00:13:35,691 Everything. You know? 89 00:13:35,795 --> 00:13:39,153 You, Mom, my job. 90 00:13:39,258 --> 00:13:43,453 I can't come down. In my head, I can't come down. 91 00:13:43,557 --> 00:13:48,745 I feel like a victim right now, OK? I just feel like I have no control over my world. 92 00:13:48,849 --> 00:13:51,207 Over our world - the world I want to give you. 93 00:13:51,311 --> 00:13:53,832 I need you to understand. Do you understand? 94 00:13:53,938 --> 00:13:56,172 - Yes. - Understand me. Please! 95 00:14:21,869 --> 00:14:24,442 - We know it's you. - Yeah? 96 00:14:29,292 --> 00:14:31,362 - If you persist in... - Oh, come on. 97 00:14:31,467 --> 00:14:35,284 If you persist in harassing us, you'll be served a restraining order. 98 00:14:35,388 --> 00:14:38,454 What do you think this is? You get people to buy into this, 99 00:14:38,559 --> 00:14:42,162 then screw their savings and force them to take a second mortgage. 100 00:14:42,266 --> 00:14:46,206 - This is your last warning. - God forbids man to destroy his own kind. 101 00:14:46,311 --> 00:14:48,792 - Correct. - To destroy the sanity of another. 102 00:14:48,897 --> 00:14:50,878 To destroy or enslave another soul. 103 00:14:50,983 --> 00:14:56,675 If you persist, we'll call the police and then phone the medical authorities. 104 00:14:56,779 --> 00:15:00,179 I'm sure you don't want to go back to the hospital. 105 00:15:00,284 --> 00:15:03,434 Castle Memorial Mental Health Clinic. 106 00:15:03,538 --> 00:15:06,528 June 21, 1977. 107 00:15:08,616 --> 00:15:11,690 A science-fiction writer is not a god. 108 00:15:11,794 --> 00:15:14,786 You're not a religion. 109 00:15:35,138 --> 00:15:38,962 My life was either happiness or despair. 110 00:15:39,066 --> 00:15:41,927 I had no stable sense of self-esteem. 111 00:15:42,977 --> 00:15:45,380 I felt I was nothing, 112 00:15:45,484 --> 00:15:47,555 a nobody. 113 00:16:00,617 --> 00:16:03,617 I took refuge in public places. 114 00:16:04,995 --> 00:16:07,066 I loved the library. 115 00:16:07,170 --> 00:16:10,071 I loved the smell of books. 116 00:16:10,176 --> 00:16:12,402 All that learning - 117 00:16:12,507 --> 00:16:15,537 it's the essence of something orderly. 118 00:16:26,638 --> 00:16:29,963 Miss Blakeslee taught me the value of books - 119 00:16:30,067 --> 00:16:32,800 Thurber, Ogden Nash. 120 00:16:32,904 --> 00:16:38,010 Once a month, she brought us in and taught us how to use the library. 121 00:16:38,114 --> 00:16:40,941 I volunteered as an assistant. 122 00:16:43,986 --> 00:16:48,362 Things you like as a child stay with you for life. 123 00:16:52,034 --> 00:16:57,106 I was searching for some kind of guidance, a mission, 124 00:16:57,210 --> 00:17:00,039 and, for my sins, I found one. 125 00:17:08,339 --> 00:17:11,702 I hadn't read it since I was 16. 126 00:17:11,806 --> 00:17:14,369 Now it burned in my hand. 127 00:17:14,473 --> 00:17:17,166 It was like a current passing through my body 128 00:17:17,270 --> 00:17:20,346 and lighting up all the cells in my brain. 129 00:17:20,849 --> 00:17:23,507 Here was something I could identify with, 130 00:17:23,612 --> 00:17:26,382 an unphoney way of life. 131 00:17:26,486 --> 00:17:31,928 And the more I read, the more I saw myself in its pages. 132 00:17:32,032 --> 00:17:35,138 I was actually becoming its hero, 133 00:17:35,242 --> 00:17:37,856 Holden Caulfield. 134 00:17:48,163 --> 00:17:52,902 I started reading "The Catcher in the Rye". I couldn't put it down until I got to the end. 135 00:17:53,007 --> 00:17:55,781 And then I read it again. 136 00:17:55,885 --> 00:18:00,034 And I held it between my hands and put it against my face and I inhaled deeply. 137 00:18:00,138 --> 00:18:04,953 I read it again, drinking in the aroma of that faintly antiseptic smell... 138 00:18:05,057 --> 00:18:08,126 ..against my face... ..through my nostrils and my skin. 139 00:18:08,230 --> 00:18:13,420 ..drinking in the aroma of that faintly antiseptic smell... 140 00:18:13,525 --> 00:18:17,129 ..through my nostrils and my skin. A way to live an honest life, 141 00:18:17,233 --> 00:18:21,521 an unphoney a way of life, a way that I can identify with. 142 00:18:25,693 --> 00:18:28,141 I remember my mind is dishevelled. 143 00:18:28,245 --> 00:18:34,480 It's ripped and torn. There is a tornado in my mind, circling around my brain. 144 00:18:34,585 --> 00:18:37,317 Bits and pieces crashing into the walls. 145 00:18:37,422 --> 00:18:41,235 A debris. Broken things, cloudy things, 146 00:18:41,340 --> 00:18:43,656 things I can 't see. 147 00:19:01,056 --> 00:19:03,836 - Well? - I don't see much point in it. 148 00:19:03,940 --> 00:19:07,795 This is one of the most brilliant studies of adolescence ever written. 149 00:19:07,901 --> 00:19:10,682 He sounds a mess to me. 150 00:19:11,773 --> 00:19:15,098 Of course he's a mess. But he realises he's a mess. 151 00:19:15,202 --> 00:19:17,390 He tries to express what he feels. 152 00:19:17,494 --> 00:19:20,059 He's a human being, for all his faults. 153 00:19:21,114 --> 00:19:25,149 - I don't like the way he talks. - I don't like the way you talk, but I listen. 154 00:19:25,253 --> 00:19:28,983 I suppose it's very clever, the way he writes and all. 155 00:19:29,087 --> 00:19:33,529 Gloria, I gave you the book because I thought you would identify with him. 156 00:19:33,633 --> 00:19:35,989 With me. I'm Holden Caulfield. 157 00:19:36,093 --> 00:19:38,237 He doesn't fit anywhere, and I don't. 158 00:19:38,341 --> 00:19:41,034 - Don't you even read books? - I read books. 159 00:19:41,138 --> 00:19:45,870 No, not magazines and travel brochures and books about Japan, but real books - 160 00:19:45,974 --> 00:19:48,709 real books with emotions and real people. 161 00:19:48,814 --> 00:19:53,503 Yes, I do, actually. And who says Japan doesn't have real people? 162 00:19:53,608 --> 00:19:55,797 Well, Japan... You know what I mean. 163 00:19:55,901 --> 00:20:00,509 That's... You need to understand The Catcher. You need to understand Holden. 164 00:20:00,614 --> 00:20:04,601 If you understand Holden... How are you gonna understand me? 165 00:20:09,820 --> 00:20:14,354 Real books. I'm talking about art and literature and, you know... 166 00:20:14,459 --> 00:20:17,895 - things that people read. - Don't be so arrogant. 167 00:20:17,999 --> 00:20:20,397 Don't you even feel sorry for him? 168 00:20:20,501 --> 00:20:24,901 I was identifying with a 16-year-old boy in a book in New York City, 169 00:20:25,005 --> 00:20:30,494 and here I am, a 25-year-old man in Hawaii who is married. 170 00:20:30,598 --> 00:20:32,491 - Hi. - Hi. 171 00:20:32,595 --> 00:20:36,163 I'm Holden Caulfield. He doesn't fit anywhere, and I don't. 172 00:20:36,268 --> 00:20:41,209 - Hi. Take a deep breath. - I know. Sometimes I get aggravated. 173 00:20:41,313 --> 00:20:44,463 OK. It's all right. It's OK. 174 00:20:44,567 --> 00:20:46,671 It was a statement. 175 00:20:46,775 --> 00:20:49,004 "Here is my identity." 176 00:20:49,108 --> 00:20:51,675 "Here is where my pain is." 177 00:21:03,615 --> 00:21:06,772 "l keep picturing all these little kids playing some game 178 00:21:06,876 --> 00:21:09,103 in this big field of rye and all." 179 00:21:09,208 --> 00:21:11,273 "Thousands of little kids, 180 00:21:11,377 --> 00:21:16,781 and nobody's around - nobody big, I mean - except me." 181 00:21:16,885 --> 00:21:20,033 "And I'm standing at the edge of this crazy cliff." 182 00:21:20,138 --> 00:21:22,615 "What I have to do, I have to catch everybody 183 00:21:22,719 --> 00:21:27,786 if they start to go over the cliff - I mean if they don't look where they're going 184 00:21:27,890 --> 00:21:31,247 I have to come out from somewhere and catch them." 185 00:21:31,351 --> 00:21:33,959 "That's all I'll do all day." 186 00:21:34,063 --> 00:21:37,585 "I'd just stand there and be the catcher in the rye and all." 187 00:21:37,689 --> 00:21:42,339 "l know it's crazy, but that's the only thing I'd really like to be." 188 00:21:42,444 --> 00:21:44,595 "l know it's crazy." 189 00:21:47,525 --> 00:21:49,678 Chapter 22. 190 00:21:49,782 --> 00:21:52,149 Page 173. 191 00:22:06,499 --> 00:22:09,068 Then I found another book. 192 00:22:09,173 --> 00:22:13,535 Just as Holden Caulfield had bled through the ink of "Catcher", 193 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,630 John Lennon now entered my mind. 194 00:22:20,677 --> 00:22:23,084 There was John Lennon on the cover. 195 00:22:24,139 --> 00:22:27,584 He was on Liberty lsland, where the statue of Liberty is. 196 00:22:27,688 --> 00:22:31,296 He was at the base of the Statue of Liberty with his glasses and cap, 197 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,465 with the scarf around his neck, 198 00:22:33,569 --> 00:22:35,882 having his photograph taken. 199 00:22:35,987 --> 00:22:38,385 I looked at the pictures of John Lennon 200 00:22:38,489 --> 00:22:42,527 on the gabled roof of the Dakota building in New York. 201 00:22:47,658 --> 00:22:50,483 Those photographs of him on the roof entered my mind 202 00:22:50,587 --> 00:22:53,606 and they took on a life of their own. 203 00:22:53,710 --> 00:22:57,739 And at some point, after looking at those pictures, 204 00:22:57,843 --> 00:23:00,537 I became enraged at him. 205 00:23:04,922 --> 00:23:07,591 Something inside me just broke. 206 00:23:08,634 --> 00:23:10,704 The great John Lennon, 207 00:23:10,808 --> 00:23:16,378 who'd told us to imagine no possessions, and there he was with millions of dollars, 208 00:23:16,482 --> 00:23:19,380 and yachts and farms and country estates, 209 00:23:19,485 --> 00:23:22,800 Iaughing at people like me who believed all the lies 210 00:23:22,905 --> 00:23:25,464 and bought all the records. 211 00:23:25,568 --> 00:23:28,137 It reeked of phoneyness. 212 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:30,982 Confirmation. 213 00:23:35,029 --> 00:23:37,227 As soon as I saw that picture, 214 00:23:37,331 --> 00:23:40,324 I knew I was going to kill him. 215 00:23:52,919 --> 00:23:55,533 It was like I had been handed something. 216 00:23:55,638 --> 00:23:57,701 A solution. 217 00:23:57,805 --> 00:24:02,498 For the first time in years, all my thoughts were synchronised. 218 00:24:02,603 --> 00:24:05,420 It's what Holden had fantasised about in the book - 219 00:24:05,524 --> 00:24:08,294 killing the big fat guy in the hotel, 220 00:24:08,398 --> 00:24:10,798 the pimp, the phoney. 221 00:24:18,899 --> 00:24:21,386 - All done for the morning, sir? - All through. 222 00:24:21,490 --> 00:24:24,597 - Yeah? Pretty rough night? - Oh, you know. The usual. 223 00:24:24,702 --> 00:24:26,356 Yeah? 224 00:24:27,447 --> 00:24:29,654 Yeah. 225 00:24:34,996 --> 00:24:38,025 Well, you have yourself a good morning. 226 00:24:38,130 --> 00:24:40,578 - You too. - Bye. 227 00:24:51,509 --> 00:24:55,749 I'd found my identity, but I had lost my life. 228 00:24:55,854 --> 00:24:57,885 Mark! 229 00:24:58,932 --> 00:25:01,221 Mark! Mark! 230 00:25:23,744 --> 00:25:26,652 I'd sit up all night and play Beatles records, 231 00:25:26,756 --> 00:25:29,111 speeding them up, slowing them down, 232 00:25:29,215 --> 00:25:31,655 interjecting my own words. 233 00:25:31,759 --> 00:25:34,780 I would strip naked, gritting my teeth 234 00:25:34,884 --> 00:25:39,041 and summoning the devil and wild things in my mind. 235 00:25:40,133 --> 00:25:43,373 I was sending out telegrams to Satan. 236 00:25:43,478 --> 00:25:46,717 "Give me the opportunity to kill John Lennon." 237 00:25:54,727 --> 00:25:57,635 I'm 25 years old. I've made a decision. 238 00:25:57,739 --> 00:26:00,759 My decision is I'm gonna go travel. 239 00:26:00,863 --> 00:26:03,721 You're going to abandon your wife and your mother 240 00:26:03,825 --> 00:26:07,642 and go thousands of miles away, and you wanna start with New York City? 241 00:26:07,746 --> 00:26:11,102 - It's always about you. - It's not about me. This is about you. 242 00:26:11,206 --> 00:26:13,979 You're the one who married a little helpless girl, 243 00:26:14,084 --> 00:26:18,317 and now you're gonna go away and leave her - leave her under my care. 244 00:26:18,421 --> 00:26:23,824 Gloria is not under your care and Gloria is not helpless. And neither are you. 245 00:26:23,928 --> 00:26:27,824 So you take care of you and Gloria will be fine on her own, 246 00:26:27,929 --> 00:26:30,746 and I'll be back before you know it. 247 00:26:30,850 --> 00:26:33,870 - I'm not buying it. - Well, you don't have to buy it. 248 00:26:33,974 --> 00:26:37,708 I know when you are lying to me. Now, if there is a real reason 249 00:26:37,813 --> 00:26:40,629 why you feel the need to go back to New York City, 250 00:26:40,733 --> 00:26:43,807 I want you to tell it to me right now. 251 00:26:54,485 --> 00:26:57,810 My decision is I'm gonna go travel. 252 00:26:57,914 --> 00:27:02,309 - I don't understand the whole thing. I... - You don't have to understand! 253 00:27:02,414 --> 00:27:05,771 OK? I am just doing what I want to do. 254 00:27:05,875 --> 00:27:10,246 You don't need to understand everything that I do. 255 00:27:30,764 --> 00:27:34,382 "The phoney must die", says "The Catcher in the Rye". 256 00:27:34,601 --> 00:27:39,178 "The phoney must die", says "The Catcher in the Rye". 257 00:27:55,618 --> 00:27:59,563 - Can I help? - I need something for protection at home. 258 00:27:59,667 --> 00:28:03,736 - OK. Anything in mind? - What would you suggest? 259 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,822 Well, if you get a.22 and a burglar comes in, he's just gonna laugh at you. 260 00:28:07,927 --> 00:28:12,077 Handy little gun, it's fast, but don't do much damage. 261 00:28:12,181 --> 00:28:15,081 But if you get a.38, 262 00:28:15,185 --> 00:28:17,540 nobody's gonna laugh at you. 263 00:28:17,644 --> 00:28:21,625 A fine, solid gun. Blue steel, snub nose, 264 00:28:21,729 --> 00:28:26,135 otherwise the same as a police service revolver. 265 00:28:27,143 --> 00:28:31,761 Now, that will stop anything that moves and it's handy, flexible, 266 00:28:31,866 --> 00:28:34,228 it's lightweight, reliable. 267 00:28:35,275 --> 00:28:39,681 You know, some of these guns are like toys, but a Smith & Wesson, 268 00:28:39,786 --> 00:28:45,017 you can hit somebody over the head with it and it'll still come back dead on. 269 00:28:45,121 --> 00:28:47,987 You can't beat quality. 270 00:28:48,453 --> 00:28:51,240 Are you interested in an automatic? 271 00:28:54,291 --> 00:28:56,694 How much? 272 00:28:56,798 --> 00:28:59,619 With specialised grips, 273 00:28:59,723 --> 00:29:01,669 169. 274 00:29:03,673 --> 00:29:06,211 OK. I'll take it. 275 00:29:16,101 --> 00:29:18,759 Hi. I'd like a ticket to New York. 276 00:29:18,863 --> 00:29:21,141 One-way. 277 00:29:21,981 --> 00:29:26,136 So long as you fill out a form and the firearm and ammunition are separate. 278 00:29:26,241 --> 00:29:29,059 - And where do I get that form? - At the check-in. 279 00:29:29,163 --> 00:29:32,560 But the gun has to be in your luggage. You can't take it on board. 280 00:29:32,664 --> 00:29:34,393 - And that's it? - That's it. 281 00:29:34,497 --> 00:29:37,740 - Thank you very much. - Have a good flight. 282 00:30:01,179 --> 00:30:03,792 There's a smell in New York. 283 00:30:03,897 --> 00:30:08,962 It's a scary smell and a cold smell and I'm frightened, 284 00:30:09,066 --> 00:30:13,010 frightened of someone finding out my secret. 285 00:30:14,148 --> 00:30:16,638 Gonna be in town long? 286 00:30:21,363 --> 00:30:24,031 You ever been to the city? 287 00:30:33,247 --> 00:30:35,820 Where are you from, bud? 288 00:30:43,380 --> 00:30:47,121 They don't have traffic like this on main street where you live, huh? 289 00:30:47,225 --> 00:30:50,584 Have you stopped to see Central Park yet? 290 00:30:51,637 --> 00:30:54,210 It's great this time of the year. 291 00:30:56,141 --> 00:30:58,671 A lot of snow. 292 00:30:58,775 --> 00:31:02,509 Take me where the freaks are. 293 00:31:02,613 --> 00:31:05,302 You are where the freaks are. 294 00:31:05,406 --> 00:31:08,932 New York is all freaks. You're in Times Square. 295 00:31:12,195 --> 00:31:16,524 This is about as big as a freak section as you're gonna get. 296 00:31:22,037 --> 00:31:24,356 Have you ever seen John Lennon? 297 00:31:24,461 --> 00:31:27,319 Yeah. He's around. 298 00:31:27,424 --> 00:31:29,569 Seen him in town. 299 00:31:29,673 --> 00:31:31,956 He lives up ahead here. 300 00:31:33,838 --> 00:31:36,035 Matter of fact, he lives up by 72nd. 301 00:31:36,140 --> 00:31:38,202 Oh, yeah. The Dakota, right? 302 00:31:38,306 --> 00:31:41,541 Right up... That's right. You knew that, huh? 303 00:31:41,645 --> 00:31:45,626 It's right up near 72nd. We'll be passing it in a minute. 304 00:31:45,730 --> 00:31:48,427 He's kind of a phoney, isn't he? 305 00:31:49,726 --> 00:31:52,217 That all depends. 306 00:31:53,771 --> 00:31:55,553 On what? 307 00:31:55,657 --> 00:31:58,483 On his music or his personality. 308 00:32:03,070 --> 00:32:05,812 Maybe a little of both. 309 00:32:05,917 --> 00:32:08,313 I guess you could say that. 310 00:32:11,702 --> 00:32:13,990 You don't like music? 311 00:32:17,206 --> 00:32:19,277 I did once. 312 00:32:19,381 --> 00:32:21,700 What happened? 313 00:32:23,003 --> 00:32:25,410 I found something else. 314 00:32:26,506 --> 00:32:28,581 Yeah, that happens, you know? 315 00:32:58,116 --> 00:33:00,646 - How much did you say it was? - 15. 316 00:33:00,750 --> 00:33:03,743 - Here's 20. - Happy holidays. 317 00:33:12,585 --> 00:33:17,203 I checked into the Waldorf Astoria. 318 00:33:17,307 --> 00:33:19,456 Just like Holden. 319 00:34:32,026 --> 00:34:35,970 I was like a boxer in the 27th round, 320 00:34:36,074 --> 00:34:38,561 all bloody and beaten. 321 00:35:32,659 --> 00:35:35,816 It's what Holden had fantasised about in the book - 322 00:35:35,921 --> 00:35:38,479 killing the big fat guy in the hotel, 323 00:35:38,584 --> 00:35:40,905 the pimp, the phoney. 324 00:35:58,012 --> 00:35:59,794 ...tonight, live. 325 00:35:59,898 --> 00:36:02,375 If you've been anywhere near a television, 326 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:07,213 you already know that John Lennon of the Beatles is dead. 327 00:36:07,317 --> 00:36:10,053 Something's gonna be happening soon. 328 00:36:10,158 --> 00:36:12,223 You're gonna hear about me. 329 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,142 Are you, uh... are you famous or something? 330 00:36:16,246 --> 00:36:18,472 Oh, no, no. I'm not famous. 331 00:36:18,576 --> 00:36:22,061 I just want you to be aware that something's gonna be happening. 332 00:36:22,165 --> 00:36:24,862 Here, turn left here, at 72nd. 333 00:36:25,994 --> 00:36:29,734 - John Lennon lives right there. - Oh, yeah? 334 00:36:29,838 --> 00:36:33,026 You can just pull over right up here, right around the... 335 00:36:33,130 --> 00:36:37,073 - OK. - Right around that truck will be fine. 336 00:36:57,269 --> 00:36:59,142 OK, let's see. Uh... 337 00:37:04,233 --> 00:37:06,347 $7.80. 338 00:37:06,452 --> 00:37:10,139 You got it, sir. How's that? 339 00:37:10,243 --> 00:37:13,563 That's fine. Listen, you have a nice time in New York City. 340 00:37:13,667 --> 00:37:19,107 - You too. It was a pleasure meeting you. - Pleasure meeting you too. 341 00:37:19,211 --> 00:37:21,280 All right. 342 00:37:24,249 --> 00:37:27,120 Strange guy. 343 00:37:53,857 --> 00:37:57,053 - Thi... this is the Dakota, right? - Yep. 344 00:37:57,157 --> 00:37:59,600 - Where John Lennon lives? - Yes, sir. 345 00:37:59,704 --> 00:38:05,727 Wow. I can't believe I'm really standing here, right outside where he lives. 346 00:38:05,831 --> 00:38:09,483 Sixth floor, right? Robert Ryan's old apartment. Can you see it? 347 00:38:09,587 --> 00:38:12,985 Not from here. Not from here, you can't. 348 00:38:13,089 --> 00:38:15,906 Rosemary's Baby was shot here, wasn't it? 349 00:38:16,010 --> 00:38:19,741 I don't know. That's what they say. 350 00:38:19,845 --> 00:38:22,201 So is, uh... is John in town? 351 00:38:22,306 --> 00:38:25,455 I don't know, man. I don't think so. I haven't seen him. 352 00:38:25,559 --> 00:38:28,883 I think he's travelling or something. 353 00:38:30,012 --> 00:38:32,415 I'm from Hawaii. 354 00:38:32,519 --> 00:38:38,099 Really? That's a pretty strong accent you got there from Hawaii. 355 00:38:48,068 --> 00:38:50,433 I cased the whole building, 356 00:38:50,537 --> 00:38:53,354 walked all the way around it twice, 357 00:38:53,458 --> 00:38:56,198 just like an assassin would. 358 00:39:30,811 --> 00:39:34,636 When we first moved here, we lived in Greenwich Village, 359 00:39:34,740 --> 00:39:38,427 which is the arty-farty section of town, for those who don't know, 360 00:39:38,532 --> 00:39:43,598 where all the students and the would-bes live, and a few old poets and that. 361 00:39:43,702 --> 00:39:46,727 She told me, "Yes, you can walk on the street", you know, 362 00:39:46,831 --> 00:39:50,649 and it took me two years to unwind. 363 00:39:50,753 --> 00:39:54,357 Shooting a man is no easy thing. 364 00:39:54,461 --> 00:39:57,290 It takes a lot of inner strength. 365 00:39:58,917 --> 00:40:02,991 I can go right out this door now and go in a restaurant. 366 00:40:03,095 --> 00:40:05,369 You want to know how great that is? 367 00:40:05,473 --> 00:40:10,997 Or go to the movies. I mean, people come up and ask for autographs or say hi, 368 00:40:11,101 --> 00:40:14,178 but they won't bug you, you know? 369 00:40:27,649 --> 00:40:32,888 Don't forget what the Beatles have said. Take your records and paraphernalia 370 00:40:32,992 --> 00:40:36,516 to any one of our 14 pick-up points in Birmingham, Alabama, 371 00:40:36,620 --> 00:40:39,188 and turn 'em in this week if possible. 372 00:40:42,662 --> 00:40:47,655 I'd found my identity, but I had lost my life. 373 00:40:49,709 --> 00:40:53,042 "The phoney must die", says The Catcher in the Rye. 374 00:40:57,883 --> 00:41:01,086 "The phoney must die", says "The Catcher in the Rye". 375 00:41:10,476 --> 00:41:13,761 "The phoney must die", says The Catcher in the Rye. 376 00:41:46,256 --> 00:41:48,952 Robert De Niro in "Raging Bull". 377 00:41:49,056 --> 00:41:54,422 Let's hear it for the great Jake La Motta, ladies and gentlemen. 378 00:41:55,471 --> 00:41:57,004 He was a fighter. 379 00:41:57,108 --> 00:42:00,588 Why does he have to make it so hard on himself? 380 00:42:00,692 --> 00:42:03,509 A winner. A loser. 381 00:42:03,613 --> 00:42:06,936 I've done a lot of bad things, Joey. 382 00:42:37,673 --> 00:42:39,826 In this typical town, 383 00:42:39,930 --> 00:42:42,160 in this comfortable home, 384 00:42:42,265 --> 00:42:44,540 three ordinary people 385 00:42:44,644 --> 00:42:49,214 are about to live an extraordinary story. 386 00:42:56,605 --> 00:43:02,514 I used to figure you had a handle for everything. You knew it all. 387 00:43:02,618 --> 00:43:07,227 I know that wasn't fair, but you made us feel like everything was gonna be all right. 388 00:43:07,331 --> 00:43:09,642 I really admire you for it. 389 00:43:09,746 --> 00:43:12,770 Well, don't admire people too much. 390 00:43:12,874 --> 00:43:15,358 They'll disappoint you sometimes. 391 00:43:17,913 --> 00:43:20,238 I love you. 392 00:43:26,337 --> 00:43:28,412 I love you too. 393 00:43:59,156 --> 00:44:02,103 I had an experience in that theatre. 394 00:44:02,207 --> 00:44:07,317 Somehow, in that brief time, my rage against John Lennon was defeated. 395 00:44:07,421 --> 00:44:10,247 The volcano was capped. 396 00:44:14,001 --> 00:44:18,746 I realised I had a wife at home who loved me. 397 00:44:21,423 --> 00:44:23,914 Gloria, hi. It's me. 398 00:44:25,302 --> 00:44:27,621 I'm coming home. 399 00:44:27,726 --> 00:44:30,379 I've won a great victory. 400 00:44:30,483 --> 00:44:33,010 Your love has saved me. 401 00:44:34,101 --> 00:44:36,935 I was gonna kill him, but your love saved me. 402 00:44:38,605 --> 00:44:41,095 You know what I'm talking about. 403 00:44:42,191 --> 00:44:45,848 Gloria, listen. Just listen. 404 00:44:45,953 --> 00:44:48,150 I was gonna kill... 405 00:44:49,196 --> 00:44:50,600 John Lennon, 406 00:44:50,706 --> 00:44:53,733 but our paths didn't cross. 407 00:44:58,704 --> 00:45:00,819 You don't believe me. 408 00:45:00,923 --> 00:45:05,448 I even got to know the doorman where Lennon lives. 409 00:45:05,552 --> 00:45:10,116 I could've done it. Your love has saved me, Gloria. 410 00:45:10,220 --> 00:45:15,663 I just wanna come back home to you. No one else. There's no one else. 411 00:45:15,767 --> 00:45:19,417 I made such a big mistake coming here. 412 00:45:19,522 --> 00:45:22,043 But I could've done it. 413 00:45:22,147 --> 00:45:24,548 I really could've done it. 414 00:45:30,064 --> 00:45:32,889 I lied to my wife. 415 00:45:32,993 --> 00:45:37,722 I told her I threw away the gun in the ocean, which I didn't. 416 00:45:37,826 --> 00:45:40,350 I told her it was over. 417 00:45:40,454 --> 00:45:42,523 And it wasn't. 418 00:45:52,290 --> 00:45:54,827 16 days later, I was back. 419 00:45:55,876 --> 00:45:59,659 I told my wife I was going to find a new career. 420 00:46:21,897 --> 00:46:26,358 Heavenly treasures are what the spirit of God gives. 421 00:46:27,569 --> 00:46:32,110 And so the poor people are also... They have the spirit of God in them. 422 00:46:35,033 --> 00:46:37,868 No, that's what I'm saying. 423 00:46:39,036 --> 00:46:43,238 That's what the Antichrist said. 424 00:47:50,136 --> 00:47:52,705 Hi. You gals waiting for somebody? 425 00:47:52,810 --> 00:47:55,335 As a matter of fact, we were waiting for you. 426 00:47:55,439 --> 00:47:58,349 It wasn't worth it. 427 00:47:59,185 --> 00:48:02,215 I'm sorry. We're only teasing. 428 00:48:02,319 --> 00:48:05,183 I'm Jude. This is Jeryl. 429 00:48:06,441 --> 00:48:08,761 Oh. 430 00:48:08,865 --> 00:48:13,765 I know. I heard John Lennon lives here. I was hoping to get his autograph. 431 00:48:13,869 --> 00:48:18,519 - Is he around? Have you seen him? - Um, no, but he's somewhere in the city. 432 00:48:18,624 --> 00:48:20,693 Good. 433 00:48:21,995 --> 00:48:23,816 I'm from Hawaii. 434 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,483 You came all the way from Hawaii to see John? 435 00:48:26,587 --> 00:48:29,613 - I'm a big fan. - You must be. 436 00:48:29,717 --> 00:48:34,866 Well, I'm also here on business. I just thought I'd take a look. 437 00:48:34,970 --> 00:48:37,994 Well, Jeryl and l are considered family. 438 00:48:38,098 --> 00:48:41,166 Yeah, so much so that John and Yoko call us by name. 439 00:48:41,270 --> 00:48:44,087 Sometimes they stop us on the street to have a chat. 440 00:48:44,191 --> 00:48:47,338 Wow. I just want an autograph. 441 00:48:47,442 --> 00:48:50,630 Oh, I should have brought a book or something. 442 00:48:50,734 --> 00:48:53,257 Oh. Why don't you get Double Fantasy? 443 00:48:53,362 --> 00:48:57,178 Even if you don't get an autograph, it's a great album. 444 00:48:57,282 --> 00:49:01,392 Yeah, maybe I'll do that. They'd never believe it back home. 445 00:49:01,497 --> 00:49:07,062 Uh... OK, we're going to go get something to eat now, so it was nice meeting you. 446 00:49:07,167 --> 00:49:10,815 - I'll be here until at least midnight. - We'll see you later then. 447 00:49:10,919 --> 00:49:14,817 Maybe we can all have dinner tonight. My treat. 448 00:49:14,921 --> 00:49:18,163 Do you like Japanese? 449 00:49:33,054 --> 00:49:37,514 "He was so nice. I just can't believe he was the one." 450 00:51:03,252 --> 00:51:07,076 The more I found out, the more angry I became. 451 00:51:07,181 --> 00:51:10,996 The guy owned five luxury apartments in the Dakota, 452 00:51:11,100 --> 00:51:15,332 four farms in Virginia, Vermont and upstate New York, 453 00:51:15,436 --> 00:51:18,255 250 head of prize Holstein cattle 454 00:51:18,359 --> 00:51:21,551 worth more than $100,000 each, 455 00:51:22,601 --> 00:51:25,132 a vast weekend home in Florida, 456 00:51:25,236 --> 00:51:28,553 a 63ft ocean-going yacht. 457 00:51:28,657 --> 00:51:33,226 This from a man who told us to imagine no possessions. 458 00:52:49,422 --> 00:52:54,955 When I heard the homos next door, I flew into a rage inside myself. 459 00:52:55,059 --> 00:52:57,460 They disgusted me. 460 00:53:00,015 --> 00:53:06,265 Travis was right. One day a real rain 'll come and wash all the scum off the street. 461 00:53:46,553 --> 00:53:49,304 Freeze! Police! 462 00:53:50,556 --> 00:53:52,920 George C Scott, 463 00:53:53,025 --> 00:53:55,546 Johnny Carson, 464 00:53:55,651 --> 00:53:57,968 Jackie Onassis. 465 00:54:01,898 --> 00:54:05,594 On the streets, among all the freaks and queers 466 00:54:05,699 --> 00:54:08,518 and bums and whores, 467 00:54:08,623 --> 00:54:11,687 I knew Holden was right. 468 00:54:11,791 --> 00:54:14,354 It was all very clear. 469 00:54:19,038 --> 00:54:21,779 Here is a little man who has nothing, 470 00:54:21,884 --> 00:54:24,957 going against a giant phoney. 471 00:54:34,717 --> 00:54:37,331 I wanted to go and shoot 'em all, 472 00:54:37,435 --> 00:54:39,586 and I almost did. 473 00:54:41,681 --> 00:54:45,464 But what glory is there in killing unknowns? 474 00:54:48,228 --> 00:54:54,304 In the book, Holden checked out of his miserable room in a cheap hotel. 475 00:54:54,408 --> 00:54:58,057 My $16-a-night YMCA full of queers 476 00:54:58,161 --> 00:55:03,147 now became room 2374 at the Sheraton. 477 00:55:14,733 --> 00:55:16,099 Hey, Trina. 478 00:55:16,203 --> 00:55:18,346 I could've killed those queers. 479 00:55:18,450 --> 00:55:22,308 Yeah, listen, I could use a quick 50. Got a commuter for me? 480 00:55:22,412 --> 00:55:25,648 I could spend the evening with you, if... 481 00:55:25,752 --> 00:55:29,272 if you'd like that. Hm? 482 00:55:29,376 --> 00:55:32,695 Have you ever been with a woman before, paying her? 483 00:55:32,799 --> 00:55:34,655 Do you like it? 484 00:55:34,759 --> 00:55:39,323 I mean, I have the feeling that that turns you on very particularly. 485 00:55:39,427 --> 00:55:45,163 What turns me on is because I have a good imagination and I like it. 486 00:55:45,268 --> 00:55:47,578 Pleasing. 487 00:55:47,682 --> 00:55:50,291 Do you mind if I take my sweater off? 488 00:55:50,395 --> 00:55:53,916 Well, I think in the confines of one's house, one should be free, 489 00:55:54,021 --> 00:55:57,506 of clothing and inhibitions. 490 00:55:57,610 --> 00:56:03,639 Oh, inhibitions are always nice because they're so nice to overcome. 491 00:56:06,275 --> 00:56:09,893 Hi. I'd Iike an escort for the evening. 492 00:56:11,905 --> 00:56:14,474 Yes. Someone foreign. 493 00:56:14,578 --> 00:56:16,939 Do you have any foreign women? 494 00:56:17,043 --> 00:56:21,861 Someone exotic. I'd Iike someone from another country. 495 00:56:25,750 --> 00:56:27,321 Good. 496 00:56:27,425 --> 00:56:29,488 But she's gotta be quiet. 497 00:56:29,592 --> 00:56:33,630 If she doesn't talk, I will tip her very well. 498 00:56:34,924 --> 00:56:36,577 OK? 499 00:56:36,682 --> 00:56:41,337 I'm at the Sheraton Hotel, room 2730. 500 00:56:42,847 --> 00:56:44,796 Caulfield. 501 00:56:44,900 --> 00:56:46,966 Holden Caulfield. 502 00:57:01,946 --> 00:57:06,934 "l kept walking around the room, waiting for this prostitute to show up." 503 00:57:07,039 --> 00:57:11,440 "l kept hoping she'd be good-looking. I didn't care too much, though." 504 00:57:11,544 --> 00:57:14,242 "l sort ofjust wanted to get it over with." 505 00:57:17,834 --> 00:57:24,202 "l was starting to feel pretty sexy and all, but I was a little nervous anyway." 506 00:57:25,007 --> 00:57:28,955 "Finally, somebody knocked on the door." 507 00:57:43,230 --> 00:57:45,428 Hi. I'm Pia. 508 00:57:45,532 --> 00:57:47,812 Thank you for coming. 509 00:57:57,241 --> 00:58:00,686 You can relax. I'm not kinky. 510 00:58:00,792 --> 00:58:04,398 I'm clean. I'm not weird. 511 00:58:04,502 --> 00:58:08,577 In fact, I'm not even all that interested in sex. 512 00:58:10,586 --> 00:58:14,748 I just wanna be in the company of a woman tonight. 513 00:58:18,175 --> 00:58:24,129 I'm expecting that tomorrow will be a very difficult day for me. 514 00:58:26,015 --> 00:58:30,588 - Would you Iike a drink? - Uh, I don't drink. 515 00:58:30,692 --> 00:58:35,845 Well, tonight's your night off. We can do whatever you want. 516 00:58:42,445 --> 00:58:44,852 Take your dress off. 517 00:59:11,344 --> 00:59:13,830 Um... turn on the radio. 518 00:59:13,934 --> 00:59:17,336 I think somebody saw me come in the room. I don't... 519 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,183 - I don't want jail. - Of course. 520 00:59:34,821 --> 00:59:36,891 Would you Iike a massage? 521 00:59:36,996 --> 00:59:39,480 Sure. Why not? 522 00:59:44,454 --> 00:59:48,201 A real man doesn't have to take from a woman. 523 00:59:49,458 --> 00:59:52,743 A real man doesn't have to use a woman. 524 00:59:54,170 --> 00:59:56,412 He can give. 525 00:59:59,091 --> 01:00:01,332 He can give. 526 01:00:39,499 --> 01:00:41,575 Thank you. 527 01:01:18,072 --> 01:01:22,229 I woke up knowing somehow that this was the day, 528 01:01:22,333 --> 01:01:24,895 that when I left that room, 529 01:01:24,999 --> 01:01:28,742 that would be the last time I would see the room again. 530 01:02:34,843 --> 01:02:38,289 I had never seen John Lennon up to that point. 531 01:02:38,393 --> 01:02:42,088 I only knew that he was in the Dakota, 532 01:02:42,558 --> 01:02:45,973 but I somehow knew that this was it. 533 01:02:46,478 --> 01:02:48,636 This was the day. 534 01:03:28,971 --> 01:03:31,722 I'm Holden Caulfield. 535 01:03:32,974 --> 01:03:36,058 I am Holden Caulfield. 536 01:03:37,144 --> 01:03:39,682 I am Holden Caulfield. 537 01:03:50,405 --> 01:03:53,322 Hello. I'm Holden Caulfield. 538 01:03:54,742 --> 01:03:56,734 I'm Holden Caulfield. 539 01:04:17,719 --> 01:04:23,336 So I laid out on the dresser a tableau of everything that was important in my life, 540 01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:26,883 so it would say, "Look, this is me." 541 01:04:27,727 --> 01:04:33,100 "This is my past, and I'm going - gone - to another place." 542 01:04:44,116 --> 01:04:48,937 I practised what it was gonna look like when the police came into the room. 543 01:04:49,042 --> 01:04:54,153 It was like going through a door, and I knew I was going to go through a door. 544 01:04:54,258 --> 01:04:57,989 The poet's door. William Blake's door. 545 01:04:58,094 --> 01:05:00,949 Jim Morrison's door. 546 01:05:01,054 --> 01:05:04,536 It was like I was going through a giant door, 547 01:05:04,641 --> 01:05:06,703 and I was. 548 01:05:06,807 --> 01:05:09,469 I was leaving my past. 549 01:05:11,513 --> 01:05:17,716 My very soul was breathing between the pages of "The Catcher in the Rye". 550 01:05:52,422 --> 01:05:54,786 Give me the strength. 551 01:05:54,890 --> 01:05:59,371 Please, give me the strength to do it. 552 01:05:59,476 --> 01:06:01,334 It has to be done. 553 01:06:01,438 --> 01:06:04,042 Please give me the strength. 554 01:06:04,146 --> 01:06:06,380 The phoneys have to know. 555 01:06:29,786 --> 01:06:32,189 - Hey, man. How's it going? - How's it going? 556 01:06:32,293 --> 01:06:35,816 - AII right. Are you staying warm out here? - Trying. 557 01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,402 - Have you seen anybody today? - No, I haven't. 558 01:06:38,506 --> 01:06:41,159 - No? Been quiet? - Yeah. Nobody's come out. 559 01:06:41,264 --> 01:06:44,328 - Jose. Hey, man. - Hey. What's going on? 560 01:06:44,432 --> 01:06:48,163 - How are you? Hi. I'm Mark. - I'm Paul. 561 01:06:48,267 --> 01:06:50,745 - How are you? - AII right. How are you? 562 01:06:50,850 --> 01:06:53,042 - So have you guys seen Lennon yet? - No. 563 01:06:53,146 --> 01:06:56,917 - No, we were just talking about that. - He hasn't been out. 564 01:06:57,021 --> 01:06:59,252 - You're a photographer. - Oh, yeah. 565 01:06:59,356 --> 01:07:02,048 - Do you get pictures of him? - Yeah, all the time. 566 01:07:02,153 --> 01:07:05,093 - That's great. - Yeah, it's pretty cool. 567 01:07:05,197 --> 01:07:08,219 So, uh, are you new in town? 568 01:07:08,323 --> 01:07:11,680 Uh... Yeah, I'm on vacation. I'm, uh... 569 01:07:11,785 --> 01:07:14,308 I'm from Hawaii. Honolulu. 570 01:07:14,412 --> 01:07:15,770 - Really? - Yeah. 571 01:07:15,876 --> 01:07:20,354 I didn't realise people from Honolulu had a Southern drawl. 572 01:07:20,458 --> 01:07:24,486 - Where are you staying in New York? - Why? What do you want to know for? 573 01:07:24,590 --> 01:07:27,066 Don't walk away. Why do you want to know? 574 01:07:27,171 --> 01:07:31,488 Easy, man. Take it easy. I was only making conversation. 575 01:07:31,593 --> 01:07:33,958 You're the one who started it. 576 01:07:36,423 --> 01:07:38,996 AII right? 577 01:07:41,010 --> 01:07:42,883 Sorry. 578 01:07:46,223 --> 01:07:48,920 That was weird. 579 01:07:49,024 --> 01:07:52,551 Yeah. That's New York. 580 01:07:55,397 --> 01:07:56,885 Well, it, uh... 581 01:07:56,989 --> 01:08:01,228 Looks Iike it's down to us die-hard Beatleholics now. 582 01:08:02,319 --> 01:08:05,516 Look, I'm sorry if I came on a Iittle strong. 583 01:08:05,620 --> 01:08:10,436 I've been standing out here for nearly three days now. 584 01:08:10,540 --> 01:08:16,619 You strike up a conversation Iike I'm your Iong-Iost cousin, then you get all hostile. 585 01:08:18,041 --> 01:08:20,239 I'm bored and I'm far away from home, 586 01:08:20,343 --> 01:08:24,407 so I try to talk to people for a Iittle companionship. 587 01:08:24,511 --> 01:08:28,994 I'm tired, so I guess that's why I flew off the handle. 588 01:08:29,098 --> 01:08:32,082 I'm sorry, OK? 589 01:08:32,187 --> 01:08:33,719 AII right. 590 01:08:36,514 --> 01:08:41,091 Hey, relax. No one's gonna steal your album around here. 591 01:08:52,193 --> 01:08:55,518 - Do you get a Iot of shots of John? - Oh, yeah. AII the time. 592 01:08:55,622 --> 01:08:58,649 Hey, here he comes. 593 01:09:11,125 --> 01:09:13,414 Thanks, John. 594 01:09:14,462 --> 01:09:16,992 - Anything else? - Thanks. 595 01:09:17,096 --> 01:09:20,707 - You're welcome. - Thanks, John. 596 01:10:06,296 --> 01:10:09,325 Oh, you Iucked out big time. That's pretty special. 597 01:10:09,430 --> 01:10:13,286 Big stars don't usually put the date. That's a collector's item. 598 01:10:13,390 --> 01:10:16,581 You know, wait until they see this back in Hawaii. 599 01:10:16,685 --> 01:10:18,999 - Did you get any of me? - I think so. 600 01:10:19,103 --> 01:10:22,671 I'II give you anything for that picture. Anything. 601 01:10:22,776 --> 01:10:24,921 Did I have my hat on or was it off? 602 01:10:25,025 --> 01:10:29,387 I don't want to be next to John Lennon with this stupid hat on. Was it on or off? 603 01:10:29,491 --> 01:10:32,927 - I think it was on. - Shit! 604 01:10:33,031 --> 01:10:36,721 Listen, is there any way you could get me that picture tonight? 605 01:10:36,826 --> 01:10:40,599 - I'II give you $50 for it. - I Iive in New Jersey. 606 01:10:40,704 --> 01:10:45,520 OK, meet me here tomorrow and I'II give you 50. Deal? 607 01:10:45,624 --> 01:10:47,411 OK. 608 01:10:48,497 --> 01:10:50,039 Jesus! 609 01:10:51,082 --> 01:10:54,362 Wait until they see that picture back in Hawaii. 610 01:10:54,466 --> 01:10:58,327 You know, me, standing next to John Lennon. 611 01:11:16,103 --> 01:11:18,723 That's it. I'm gone. Good Iuck. 612 01:11:20,148 --> 01:11:22,717 I'm staying at the Sheraton. 613 01:11:22,821 --> 01:11:26,890 Like I said, you can't be too careful, especially in a city Iike this. 614 01:11:26,994 --> 01:11:29,222 You never know who you're talking to. 615 01:11:29,328 --> 01:11:31,980 I'm not from Hawaii. I'm from Georgia. 616 01:11:32,084 --> 01:11:35,438 I grew up just outside Atlanta, in Decatur, Georgia. 617 01:11:35,542 --> 01:11:39,231 I've travelled around the world, but Hawaii's the place I belong. 618 01:11:39,336 --> 01:11:42,278 I probably wouldn't be alive if I hadn't moved there. 619 01:11:42,382 --> 01:11:46,319 You wouldn't believe what I went there for. I've Iived an ironical Iife. 620 01:11:46,424 --> 01:11:49,577 - I'II be back tomorrow night. - You ought to wait. 621 01:11:49,681 --> 01:11:52,203 I mean, they'II be back before midnight. 622 01:11:52,307 --> 01:11:56,583 Look, you got your autograph from John. Give it up for the day and get some rest. 623 01:11:56,687 --> 01:11:59,251 No. I'm gonna get Yoko's. 624 01:12:02,182 --> 01:12:06,255 Hey, you know, why don't I take your picture with him when he comes back? 625 01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:08,800 I know about cameras. I've used them before. 626 01:12:08,904 --> 01:12:13,679 I see John all the time. I can get my picture taken any time. I'm going home. 627 01:12:13,783 --> 01:12:16,095 Well, suppose you don't see him again? 628 01:14:09,912 --> 01:14:12,237 Mr Lennon? 629 01:14:48,943 --> 01:14:51,019 John! 630 01:15:10,503 --> 01:15:13,367 - Go! Go! Get out of here! - But where would I go? 631 01:15:13,471 --> 01:15:15,622 I don't know. 632 01:15:26,141 --> 01:15:28,255 It was like a movie. 633 01:15:28,359 --> 01:15:31,092 It was like I was in a movie. 634 01:15:31,196 --> 01:15:34,966 I got a gun, I got hollow-point bullets. 635 01:15:35,070 --> 01:15:40,264 I thought he would just drop right in front of me and that was it. 636 01:15:40,368 --> 01:15:43,767 I thought he was just gonna fall down, like in the movies. 637 01:15:43,871 --> 01:15:46,145 Fall down dead. 638 01:16:02,629 --> 01:16:04,910 Freeze! Police! Hands on your head! 639 01:16:05,014 --> 01:16:07,496 Do it! Do it now! 640 01:16:08,759 --> 01:16:11,084 Don't move! 641 01:16:14,472 --> 01:16:15,800 He shot John Lennon! 642 01:16:59,550 --> 01:17:01,748 Come on, man. 643 01:17:01,852 --> 01:17:03,874 Hold on. 644 01:17:03,979 --> 01:17:07,000 Come on, John. Hold in there. 645 01:17:07,104 --> 01:17:09,757 Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK. 646 01:17:09,861 --> 01:17:11,964 Come on. Hold on! Come on. 647 01:17:12,068 --> 01:17:13,465 Come on. 648 01:17:13,569 --> 01:17:15,260 Hang in there. 649 01:17:15,365 --> 01:17:17,845 Come on. Come on! 650 01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:26,893 Please, don't hurt me. 651 01:17:36,664 --> 01:17:40,027 I murdered a man, but not only did I fall, 652 01:17:40,132 --> 01:17:43,321 I took a lot more with me than just myself. 653 01:17:43,426 --> 01:17:49,125 A whole era ended. It was the last nail in the coffin of the '60s. 654 01:17:51,551 --> 01:17:57,249 He was brought to the emergency room shortly before 11pm. 655 01:17:57,354 --> 01:17:58,963 He was dead on arrival. 656 01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:03,424 ...tonight, live. 657 01:18:03,528 --> 01:18:08,092 If you've been anywhere near a television set or a radio these past few hours, 658 01:18:08,196 --> 01:18:11,596 you already know that John Lennon of the Beatles is dead. 659 01:18:11,701 --> 01:18:15,108 He's not dead. John Lennon can't be dead. 660 01:18:31,542 --> 01:18:33,945 The suspect at this time is... 661 01:18:34,049 --> 01:18:38,495 First of all, his identity. 25-year-old Mark David Chapman. 662 01:18:38,599 --> 01:18:44,372 He comes from Hawaii. Police tell me he's been in the New York area about a week, 663 01:18:44,476 --> 01:18:49,503 and began to hang around the apartment over the weekend, asking about Lennon. 664 01:18:49,607 --> 01:18:54,549 He apparently ran into him for the first time this evening, about five o'clock, 665 01:18:54,653 --> 01:18:56,715 asking Lennon for his autograph. 666 01:18:56,819 --> 01:19:01,302 Lennon gave it to him on the jacket cover of a record. 667 01:19:01,406 --> 01:19:03,764 Lennon went off to a recording session, 668 01:19:03,868 --> 01:19:09,355 and we are told that Chapman remained at the hotel until Mr Lennon returned, 669 01:19:09,459 --> 01:19:11,767 about eleven o'clock this evening. 670 01:19:11,872 --> 01:19:14,692 Police officials describe what happened this way. 671 01:19:14,796 --> 01:19:19,069 They say that Chapman came up from behind, yelled out Mr Lennon's name 672 01:19:19,174 --> 01:19:21,650 and emptied a.38 revolver. 673 01:19:21,755 --> 01:19:24,869 There were at least five shots spent. 674 01:19:26,503 --> 01:19:30,283 There is very little known about 25-year-old Chapman. 675 01:19:30,387 --> 01:19:35,121 He has been taken to the 20th Police Precinct, fingerprinted. 676 01:19:35,225 --> 01:19:41,213 They're checking for prior arrest records, also for a motive. They don't have any yet. 677 01:19:41,317 --> 01:19:46,801 They charged him officially with murder, but the reason for this attack, unknown. 678 01:19:46,906 --> 01:19:48,971 Have a seat. 679 01:19:51,858 --> 01:19:54,395 OK. Calm down, all right? 680 01:19:56,236 --> 01:20:01,941 I'm going to take off your cuffs, make you a Iittle more comfortable. 681 01:20:09,456 --> 01:20:12,446 - State your name. - Mark David Chapman. 682 01:20:12,550 --> 01:20:14,989 - Your age. - 25. 683 01:20:15,093 --> 01:20:19,990 - Your address. - 55 Kukui Street, Honolulu, Hawaii. 684 01:20:20,094 --> 01:20:25,083 OK, do me a favour and stand up. I just want to check your pockets. 685 01:20:27,095 --> 01:20:29,383 What have we got? 686 01:20:33,058 --> 01:20:35,134 Have a seat, all right? 687 01:20:48,695 --> 01:20:53,435 I remember a lot of pain and confusion when I dictated the statement. 688 01:20:53,539 --> 01:20:57,023 I was in a very unreal, very surreal world. 689 01:20:57,128 --> 01:20:59,778 I was in an utter panic of sheer terror 690 01:20:59,882 --> 01:21:06,070 and wanted things to go back to the way they were before I had pulled the trigger. 691 01:21:06,174 --> 01:21:09,865 I felt anger spreading over my mind as I was dictating the statement 692 01:21:09,969 --> 01:21:12,622 and talking about "Catcher in the Rye ", 693 01:21:12,726 --> 01:21:16,578 Iike I was being sucked into a giant wave that I couldn't swim out of 694 01:21:16,682 --> 01:21:19,346 or even come up for air. 695 01:21:22,682 --> 01:21:25,434 I didn't want to kill anybody, 696 01:21:26,561 --> 01:21:29,885 and I really don't know why I did it. 697 01:21:29,989 --> 01:21:32,470 I asked God to help me, 698 01:21:33,941 --> 01:21:38,104 but we're all responsible for our own actions. 699 01:21:40,405 --> 01:21:43,689 I came to New York five weeks ago. 700 01:21:46,368 --> 01:21:49,819 I stayed at the YMCA on 62nd Street. 701 01:22:03,382 --> 01:22:07,622 Mourners began gathering soon after the news of Lennon's death 702 01:22:07,726 --> 01:22:10,666 and there are easily now a thousand mourners 703 01:22:10,770 --> 01:22:12,833 who've come to pay tribute to him. 704 01:22:12,938 --> 01:22:16,921 At the beginning, it was a very solemn vigil. Many held candles... 705 01:22:17,025 --> 01:22:20,675 There were up to a thousand admirers at one time. 706 01:22:20,780 --> 01:22:23,801 Lennon's wife, Yoko Ono, at one time sent a message down 707 01:22:23,905 --> 01:22:27,473 asking the mourners to disperse, and most of them did, 708 01:22:27,577 --> 01:22:31,431 but they are starting to return again, playing the familiar songs 709 01:22:31,535 --> 01:22:33,766 that are so connected with John Lennon, 710 01:22:33,870 --> 01:22:36,396 and some also for the Beatles as a group. 711 01:22:36,500 --> 01:22:41,276 The feeling is of tremendous loss, and these people feel it very personally. 712 01:22:41,380 --> 01:22:46,737 The profound loss to the music world is yet to be accounted for. 713 01:22:46,841 --> 01:22:50,658 Come on, Iook alive. Let's get going. Move it. 714 01:22:50,762 --> 01:22:53,078 Get me a vest. 715 01:22:54,548 --> 01:22:56,746 Hold him up, right here. 716 01:22:56,850 --> 01:23:00,249 - Get the vest on him. - Take your glasses off. 717 01:23:00,354 --> 01:23:03,336 Hold your hands up. 718 01:23:03,440 --> 01:23:07,965 I'm not gonna have Jack Ruby kill you in my station house, you understand? 719 01:23:08,070 --> 01:23:10,174 Come on. Secure that. 720 01:23:10,278 --> 01:23:13,344 Listen up. We've got the man who shot John Lennon here. 721 01:23:13,449 --> 01:23:15,970 I don't want any Oswalds, you got it? 722 01:23:16,074 --> 01:23:18,302 - Give me a coat. - Get him a coat. 723 01:23:18,407 --> 01:23:21,152 No fuck-ups. You understand me? 724 01:23:21,863 --> 01:23:24,104 Are you ready? Move. 725 01:23:25,157 --> 01:23:27,605 Get the door. 726 01:23:27,709 --> 01:23:30,648 Move it up. AII right, Iet's go. 727 01:23:30,753 --> 01:23:35,362 Jesus Christ! Get them the fuck... Get them back. Let's go. 728 01:23:35,466 --> 01:23:40,332 Move the fuck back. Let's go. 729 01:23:41,587 --> 01:23:44,535 I remember, from the darkness inside the coat, 730 01:23:44,639 --> 01:23:50,751 a tremendous tumult occurring as we walked from one door to another door. 731 01:23:53,930 --> 01:23:58,556 Let's go. Down the stairs. In the bathroom! 732 01:23:59,269 --> 01:24:04,551 I looked down, and the ground was lit up by white light. 733 01:24:04,655 --> 01:24:10,762 It was almost like I was walking on just one giant pulsating beam of light 734 01:24:10,866 --> 01:24:12,485 under my feet. 735 01:24:24,372 --> 01:24:27,076 Back the fuck up, man! 736 01:24:33,629 --> 01:24:37,841 - Come on. Let's go. - Jesus Christ! 737 01:24:41,803 --> 01:24:43,873 Cullen, get on the door. 738 01:24:43,978 --> 01:24:46,676 Relax. 739 01:24:56,566 --> 01:24:58,430 So... 740 01:24:58,534 --> 01:25:00,850 why'd you do it? 741 01:25:07,658 --> 01:25:10,409 I Iike John Lennon. 742 01:25:17,666 --> 01:25:19,539 So do I. 743 01:25:20,042 --> 01:25:22,119 Boss, it's clear. Let's go. 744 01:25:24,129 --> 01:25:26,454 Cullen, Iet's go. 745 01:25:34,971 --> 01:25:40,510 I was Mr Nobody till I killed the biggest somebody on Earth. 746 01:25:56,281 --> 01:25:59,311 Outside the court were many Lennon fans. 747 01:25:59,415 --> 01:26:02,150 Security measures were strict when they filed in 748 01:26:02,254 --> 01:26:07,693 as there have been many threats against Chapman's life since the murder. 749 01:26:07,797 --> 01:26:11,825 I was nothing. Then I was a big shot. 750 01:26:11,929 --> 01:26:16,164 This was the hottest thing in the city at the time. 751 01:26:20,092 --> 01:26:23,787 Who are you? Get outta here! Get outta here! 752 01:26:23,891 --> 01:26:27,332 Get the fuck outta here now! Get him in the car. 753 01:26:27,436 --> 01:26:30,182 Get him in the fucking car! Let's go! 754 01:26:32,227 --> 01:26:34,349 Move it! 755 01:26:35,730 --> 01:26:37,603 Let's go! Let's go! 756 01:26:56,497 --> 01:26:59,239 25-year-old Chapman of Hawaii 757 01:26:59,343 --> 01:27:02,158 was described as having a smirk on his face. 758 01:27:02,262 --> 01:27:05,326 Police, calling him a wacko, charged him with murder. 759 01:27:05,430 --> 01:27:09,493 John's wife, Yoko Ono, issued a statement to the weeping crowd of 500 760 01:27:09,598 --> 01:27:11,994 who gathered quickly outside the co-op. 761 01:27:12,098 --> 01:27:17,126 She said, "John loved and prayed for the human race. Please do the same for him." 762 01:27:17,230 --> 01:27:20,213 John Lennon and Paul McCartney wrote more hit songs 763 01:27:20,317 --> 01:27:22,422 than any composers in modern history. 764 01:27:22,526 --> 01:27:26,720 They're considered to have been the spirit behind many of the social changes 765 01:27:26,824 --> 01:27:28,883 of the '60s and '70s. 766 01:27:28,988 --> 01:27:31,179 Hey! Get back down there. 767 01:27:31,283 --> 01:27:35,054 AII I care about is getting you out of here before someone kills you. 768 01:27:35,158 --> 01:27:38,237 - You understand? - Yes, sir. 769 01:27:44,119 --> 01:27:47,609 Chapman was charged with second-degree murder, 770 01:27:47,714 --> 01:27:51,989 the most serious charge in New York State for killing a non-law-officer. 771 01:27:52,093 --> 01:27:55,364 He was then taken to Bellevue Hospital for psychiatric... 772 01:27:55,468 --> 01:27:59,745 Everywhere he goes, Chapman wears two bulletproofjackets. 773 01:27:59,849 --> 01:28:02,787 The threat of a lynching is almost too much for police. 774 01:28:02,891 --> 01:28:06,580 They fear that fans might decide to storm the hospital. 775 01:28:22,859 --> 01:28:26,471 I remember cockroaches and I remember filth, 776 01:28:26,575 --> 01:28:31,143 and I remember a smell. I remember loud disco music, 777 01:28:31,247 --> 01:28:36,734 and I remember just a terrible feeling of something like a Fellini film. 778 01:28:48,296 --> 01:28:50,367 ...so well, 779 01:28:50,471 --> 01:28:54,371 and music critic Robert Palmer who recently interviewed John Lennon. 780 01:28:54,475 --> 01:28:57,831 John Coleman will bring us weather news this morning, 781 01:28:57,936 --> 01:29:01,754 but now, at 30 minutes, almost 31, after seven o'clock, 782 01:29:01,858 --> 01:29:03,920 Steve Bell has the news. 783 01:29:04,024 --> 01:29:06,465 Thank you. Good morning, everyone. 784 01:29:06,569 --> 01:29:09,719 New York City Police have arrested and charged a suspect 785 01:29:09,824 --> 01:29:11,928 in last night's murder of John Lennon. 786 01:29:12,032 --> 01:29:14,850 He's 25-year-old David Chapman of Hawaii, 787 01:29:14,954 --> 01:29:19,349 who police say had been in New York for about a week, apparently stalking Lennon. 788 01:29:19,453 --> 01:29:21,728 The police describe Chapman as a "wacko". 789 01:29:21,832 --> 01:29:26,690 Sources say he shot Lennon five times as the musician returned to his apartment, 790 01:29:26,795 --> 01:29:29,150 then dropped his gun and waited for police. 791 01:29:29,254 --> 01:29:32,610 Authorities say they do not know of a motive for that killing. 792 01:29:32,714 --> 01:29:38,118 Informed of Lennon's death, his former songwriter partner, Paul McCartney, said: 793 01:29:38,222 --> 01:29:42,701 "l can't take it. John was a great guy. He's going to be missed by the whole world." 794 01:29:42,805 --> 01:29:46,078 As June Massell reports, many of Lennon's fans and admirers 795 01:29:46,184 --> 01:29:50,417 heard about his death on late-night-radio music programmes. 796 01:29:50,521 --> 01:29:54,587 John Lennon will be remembered as a gifted and talented musician. 797 01:29:54,691 --> 01:29:57,298 The Beatles were the top pop group in the world 798 01:29:57,402 --> 01:30:01,091 from the time their first album was released in 1964 799 01:30:01,195 --> 01:30:04,053 until they broke up in 1970. 800 01:30:04,158 --> 01:30:07,724 With Lennon at the time of the shooting was his wife, Yoko Ono, 801 01:30:07,828 --> 01:30:10,894 who Lennon once said helped him find his identity. 802 01:30:10,998 --> 01:30:15,606 When doctors told her Lennon was dead, she cried, "Tell me it isn't true." 803 01:30:15,710 --> 01:30:18,488 June Massell, ABC News, Chicago. 804 01:30:25,710 --> 01:30:28,739 I didn't care what the doctors thought about me. 805 01:30:28,843 --> 01:30:31,156 I was above and beyond that. 806 01:30:31,261 --> 01:30:33,824 I was with a pure, holy purpose 807 01:30:33,929 --> 01:30:38,707 and there was nothing they could do that would touch it. 808 01:30:38,812 --> 01:30:41,720 I thought they were all phoneys. 809 01:30:42,848 --> 01:30:44,919 I became a saviour, 810 01:30:45,023 --> 01:30:46,754 a prophet. 811 01:30:46,858 --> 01:30:51,098 The "Catcher in the Rye" of my generation. 812 01:31:23,548 --> 01:31:25,873 Hello, Mr Chapman. 813 01:31:27,969 --> 01:31:30,637 How are you? 814 01:31:34,808 --> 01:31:37,725 Have you had a comfortable night? 815 01:31:39,103 --> 01:31:41,261 I slept fine. 816 01:31:42,313 --> 01:31:44,511 Good. 817 01:31:44,615 --> 01:31:46,677 Do you know where you are? 818 01:31:46,782 --> 01:31:48,846 Bellevue Hospital. 819 01:31:48,950 --> 01:31:51,641 - Mm-hm. Right. - Correct. 820 01:31:51,745 --> 01:31:56,937 - Why are you here? - For the murder of John Lennon. 821 01:31:58,368 --> 01:32:01,119 Did you kill John Lennon? 822 01:32:02,330 --> 01:32:05,698 - You oughta know that. - Yes, I do. 823 01:32:08,752 --> 01:32:10,744 Next question. 824 01:32:11,796 --> 01:32:14,713 Why did you kill John Lennon? 825 01:32:17,175 --> 01:32:19,456 Well, that's tough to answer. 826 01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:21,750 Probably, uh... 827 01:32:21,855 --> 01:32:24,336 a number of different reasons. 828 01:32:25,391 --> 01:32:28,798 - Let's start. I have a Iot of time. - I'm sure you do. 829 01:32:28,902 --> 01:32:31,885 A Iot of questions, a Iot of answers. 830 01:32:31,989 --> 01:32:34,260 You provide the answers. 831 01:32:34,364 --> 01:32:36,514 I ask the questions. 832 01:32:39,860 --> 01:32:42,268 So give me one reason. 833 01:32:44,740 --> 01:32:46,810 Because I thought he was a phoney. 834 01:32:46,914 --> 01:32:49,650 - A phoney? - Mm-hm. 835 01:32:49,754 --> 01:32:55,737 - Didn't Iike his music, is that it? - No, I actually Ioved his music. 836 01:32:55,842 --> 01:32:58,151 You didn't Iike his Iyrics? 837 01:32:58,255 --> 01:32:59,949 Well, I... 838 01:33:00,053 --> 01:33:04,255 I thought I understood his Iyrics, but I guess I didn't. 839 01:33:05,298 --> 01:33:08,382 What's phoney about John Lennon? 840 01:33:13,263 --> 01:33:16,504 Have you ever thought about death before? 841 01:33:16,609 --> 01:33:18,675 Killing? 842 01:33:21,478 --> 01:33:23,926 Killing? Yeah. 843 01:33:24,030 --> 01:33:27,551 I have thought about death. I have thought about killing. 844 01:33:27,655 --> 01:33:30,597 I just killed a man. 845 01:33:30,701 --> 01:33:32,900 Is that killing enough for you? 846 01:33:33,947 --> 01:33:40,478 Do you ever think about suicide or taking yourself out of pain some other way? 847 01:33:40,582 --> 01:33:43,568 Yeah, I've thought about suicide. 848 01:33:43,672 --> 01:33:47,781 I tried to wipe myself out before I wiped John Lennon out. 849 01:33:47,885 --> 01:33:50,322 - You did? - Yeah. 850 01:33:50,427 --> 01:33:52,699 And what happened? 851 01:33:52,803 --> 01:33:56,159 I couldn't do it. I was too chicken. 852 01:33:56,263 --> 01:33:58,122 - You were? - Yeah. 853 01:33:58,226 --> 01:34:02,041 I went up on top of the Empire State Building, 854 01:34:02,145 --> 01:34:03,927 and, uh... 855 01:34:04,930 --> 01:34:07,250 I wanted to blow my brains out. 856 01:34:07,354 --> 01:34:13,682 - Why is that? - I believe nobody's ever done it before. 857 01:34:14,730 --> 01:34:17,399 It'd be all over the newspapers. 858 01:34:19,108 --> 01:34:21,266 What stopped you? 859 01:34:22,361 --> 01:34:26,895 Picturing myself hitting the bottom. 860 01:34:26,999 --> 01:34:28,810 The fear. 861 01:34:28,914 --> 01:34:31,743 Fear of physical pain. 862 01:34:33,412 --> 01:34:37,318 I pictured my brains on the ground. 863 01:34:37,422 --> 01:34:40,167 I thought I still might be alive. 864 01:34:45,172 --> 01:34:49,744 Do you have that same picture in your head about John Lennon? 865 01:34:49,848 --> 01:34:52,842 Do you think he felt the pain you felt? 866 01:34:56,222 --> 01:35:01,049 Well, I'm sure he felt pain. 867 01:35:02,269 --> 01:35:06,729 I don't know. I guess I didn't really know him. 868 01:35:11,193 --> 01:35:14,644 Did he do something to you personally? 869 01:35:18,490 --> 01:35:22,857 I don't want to talk any more. I don't want to talk about the killing. 870 01:35:22,961 --> 01:35:26,277 I'm trying to block it out of my mind. 871 01:35:26,381 --> 01:35:29,113 Why is that? 872 01:35:29,218 --> 01:35:31,278 Why do you think? 873 01:35:31,382 --> 01:35:33,446 I don't know. 874 01:35:33,550 --> 01:35:36,491 - Have you ever killed anyone? - No, I haven't. 875 01:35:36,596 --> 01:35:40,201 - Have you ever seen someone dead? - Yes. 876 01:35:40,305 --> 01:35:43,164 Bullet wounds, blood? 877 01:35:43,268 --> 01:35:46,545 Did you get excited about that? 878 01:35:48,306 --> 01:35:50,595 I'm done talking. 879 01:36:02,610 --> 01:36:05,527 It's conviction you want, is it? 880 01:36:08,823 --> 01:36:13,190 - Or is it fame? - We're done. I'm done talking. 881 01:36:13,294 --> 01:36:15,605 - You certainly are. - Yeah. Yeah. 882 01:36:15,709 --> 01:36:19,950 Thank you, Mr Chapman. It was great talking to you. 883 01:37:00,657 --> 01:37:03,528 Stop there. 884 01:37:24,260 --> 01:37:29,415 - Let's go and grab something after this. - Clear. 885 01:37:29,519 --> 01:37:33,132 Stop there. 886 01:37:56,703 --> 01:37:59,703 Hey, killer! 887 01:38:05,794 --> 01:38:08,580 See you soon, killer. 888 01:38:17,095 --> 01:38:21,296 Lennon's killer had several days of psychiatric examination 889 01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:23,461 under a 24-hour suicide watch, 890 01:38:23,565 --> 01:38:27,421 before being moved to Rikers lsland jail to a more secure cell 891 01:38:27,525 --> 01:38:30,261 for his own protection from other prisoners. 892 01:38:30,365 --> 01:38:32,924 He spent his first two days refusing food 893 01:38:33,028 --> 01:38:35,805 following a threat scrawled on a prison wall: 894 01:38:35,909 --> 01:38:38,560 "You don't have much time left." 895 01:38:38,665 --> 01:38:41,405 "Soon, killer. Soon." 896 01:38:45,994 --> 01:38:50,950 Within days, the lawyer assigned to represent me withdrew. 897 01:38:51,790 --> 01:38:55,952 This from a guy with a rep for defending no-hope clients. 898 01:39:14,308 --> 01:39:16,378 I began reading "Catcher" again, 899 01:39:16,483 --> 01:39:21,510 and it was like I was reading a whole other book from the one I'd read before, 900 01:39:21,614 --> 01:39:26,140 Iike I was reading a blueprint of what had happened to me. 901 01:39:26,244 --> 01:39:30,518 I made a list of 50 total coincidences. 902 01:39:30,622 --> 01:39:33,976 It was like the whole killing was set up by destiny, 903 01:39:34,081 --> 01:39:37,315 just something that was meant to be. 904 01:39:37,420 --> 01:39:40,152 That's when I realised John Lennon had been killed 905 01:39:40,256 --> 01:39:44,108 to promote the reading of "The Catcher in the Rye". 906 01:39:44,213 --> 01:39:48,197 And that same electric current passed through my body again, 907 01:39:48,301 --> 01:39:51,868 and lit up all the cells in my brain. 908 01:40:02,514 --> 01:40:07,297 I became euphoric, knowing now there was a reason beyond myself 909 01:40:07,401 --> 01:40:10,052 for what I had done. 910 01:40:11,272 --> 01:40:17,098 Shots have been fired as Reagan left the Washington Hilton hotel. 911 01:40:17,202 --> 01:40:20,100 White House officials say the president was not hit, 912 01:40:20,204 --> 01:40:25,781 but there are reports that three people were wounded by gunfire. 913 01:40:28,702 --> 01:40:31,649 Joe Ewog was there when the shooting happened. 914 01:40:31,754 --> 01:40:35,153 A series of explosions that sounded like firecrackers. 915 01:40:35,258 --> 01:40:39,700 They'd gone into the back seat by one of the Secret-Service agents. After... 916 01:40:39,804 --> 01:40:43,951 - He got that from me. - ..swarming around the man with the gun. 917 01:40:44,056 --> 01:40:48,205 They surged back towards where I was, near one of the doors to the hotel. 918 01:40:48,309 --> 01:40:51,708 They wrestled him to the ground, then put him in a police car. 919 01:40:51,813 --> 01:40:56,089 John Hinckley Jr had become obsessed by Jodie Foster 920 01:40:56,193 --> 01:41:00,809 and had imagined that she would be impressed if he murdered the president. 921 01:41:01,646 --> 01:41:07,057 Good idea. I had a backup Iist, but Reagan wasn't on it. 922 01:41:07,161 --> 01:41:10,595 I was going for Jackie Onassis, 923 01:41:10,700 --> 01:41:12,766 George C Scott, 924 01:41:12,870 --> 01:41:15,947 Johnny Carson, if I couldn't get Lennon. 925 01:41:24,081 --> 01:41:26,362 Very anxious. 926 01:41:26,466 --> 01:41:29,542 Hyperventilating and exhausted. 927 01:41:30,085 --> 01:41:31,989 Cooperative. 928 01:41:32,094 --> 01:41:34,922 Insatiable need for attention. 929 01:41:36,049 --> 01:41:39,412 Have you seen any other doctors at all? 930 01:41:39,517 --> 01:41:42,083 Grandiose visions of himself. 931 01:41:43,722 --> 01:41:46,003 Mood fluctuations. 932 01:41:46,107 --> 01:41:47,125 Bingo. 933 01:41:47,230 --> 01:41:48,932 Paranoid tendencies. 934 01:41:51,061 --> 01:41:52,382 Rage. 935 01:41:52,487 --> 01:41:55,231 What was the logic behind all this? 936 01:41:56,274 --> 01:41:58,480 Would you say you loved the man? 937 01:41:59,776 --> 01:42:04,354 Tell me about your mother. Are you able to see that... 938 01:42:05,698 --> 01:42:10,489 you're a separate person from the person in the book? 939 01:42:14,539 --> 01:42:19,072 My mission was now to promote "The Catcher in the Rye", 940 01:42:19,177 --> 01:42:23,030 and I was gonna use my trial, the trial of the century, 941 01:42:23,135 --> 01:42:26,580 to promote the reading of that book. 942 01:42:28,508 --> 01:42:32,038 Two weeks before the trial, Chapman has instructed his Iawyers 943 01:42:32,142 --> 01:42:34,418 that he wishes to plead guilty. 944 01:42:34,522 --> 01:42:38,458 In a statement today, Chapman says that God had spoken to him 945 01:42:38,562 --> 01:42:40,878 and wanted him to plead guilty. 946 01:42:40,983 --> 01:42:44,801 Defence lawyer Jonathan Marks has asked judge Dennis Edwards 947 01:42:44,905 --> 01:42:46,927 to have a panel re-examine him 948 01:42:47,032 --> 01:42:50,636 to determine if he was competent enough to make such a decision. 949 01:42:50,740 --> 01:42:53,023 The judge refused. 950 01:42:55,781 --> 01:42:58,567 I was never mad. I was blessed. 951 01:42:59,993 --> 01:43:04,072 But there was one more task I had to endure. 952 01:43:04,413 --> 01:43:06,777 I had to be purified. 953 01:43:06,882 --> 01:43:09,403 Exorcised. 954 01:43:09,507 --> 01:43:14,573 - I know you, Satan. - I'm a Christian. I can't be possessed. 955 01:43:14,677 --> 01:43:17,036 I command you, Satan, to come out. 956 01:43:17,140 --> 01:43:19,329 I summon them up. They're not inside. 957 01:43:27,139 --> 01:43:29,547 It is Christ who commands you... 958 01:43:34,604 --> 01:43:37,177 Do you believe in God? 959 01:43:38,233 --> 01:43:40,308 The devil? 960 01:43:47,073 --> 01:43:49,143 Have you ever woken up 961 01:43:49,247 --> 01:43:53,020 with the sensation that something evil is in the room? 962 01:43:53,124 --> 01:43:58,402 You're not really awake, but you're not really dreaming either. 963 01:43:58,506 --> 01:44:01,240 Your eyes won't open more than about halfway. 964 01:44:01,344 --> 01:44:06,368 You just feel paralysed with a fear that's so powerful, you don't know who you are. 965 01:44:06,472 --> 01:44:12,578 You're so frightened, you've virtually lost your identity. Fear can do that, you know. 966 01:44:12,682 --> 01:44:15,835 It can strip you of your identity. 967 01:44:15,939 --> 01:44:18,498 There's nothing more frightening than that. 968 01:44:18,602 --> 01:44:21,136 I know. 969 01:44:22,143 --> 01:44:24,629 Holy Lord, almighty Father, 970 01:44:24,733 --> 01:44:28,424 everlasting God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, 971 01:44:28,528 --> 01:44:33,141 who once and for all consigned that fallen tyrant to the flames of hell, 972 01:44:33,245 --> 01:44:38,851 who sent your only-begotten Son into the world to crush that roaring lion... 973 01:44:38,956 --> 01:44:43,566 I was in a very surreal world. I was in an utter panic of sheer terror 974 01:44:43,670 --> 01:44:50,244 and wanted things to go back to the way they were before I had pulled the trigger. 975 01:45:24,652 --> 01:45:27,894 My whole life was like that at that time - 976 01:45:27,998 --> 01:45:30,852 a half-waking nightmare. 977 01:45:30,957 --> 01:45:34,440 I couldn't wake up and I couldn't sleep it away. 978 01:45:34,544 --> 01:45:37,232 I was scared to death, but I couldn't scream. 979 01:45:37,337 --> 01:45:39,400 I would try to scream, 980 01:45:39,504 --> 01:45:44,615 and it would remain echoing in my chest without even being vocalised. 981 01:45:44,719 --> 01:45:47,158 That was what came out that night in December 982 01:45:47,262 --> 01:45:51,200 when John Lennon stepped out of his limousine. 983 01:45:51,304 --> 01:45:53,913 What came out of the barrel of that gun that night 984 01:45:54,017 --> 01:45:57,129 was a giant scream after all those years. 985 01:46:16,403 --> 01:46:18,684 Listen to some of the Lennon records, 986 01:46:18,788 --> 01:46:21,937 Iisten to the background of some of the Beatles' songs. 987 01:46:22,043 --> 01:46:24,813 That screaming in the background, that's John. 988 01:46:24,918 --> 01:46:28,773 Listen to him scream when he's singing about not having his mother, 989 01:46:28,877 --> 01:46:33,112 about being abandoned by his mother and his father. 990 01:46:33,216 --> 01:46:35,906 Poor guy. His father left the family, 991 01:46:36,010 --> 01:46:39,282 then his mother left him to be raised by his aunt and uncle. 992 01:46:39,386 --> 01:46:41,578 Then his mother got killed 993 01:46:41,682 --> 01:46:45,374 after she came back to him after all those years. 994 01:46:46,470 --> 01:46:50,753 To think, after a person had been through all he had been through as a child, 995 01:46:50,858 --> 01:46:54,347 then to get murdered by somebody like me. 996 01:46:57,061 --> 01:47:00,146 Thank you all very much. God bless you. 997 01:47:23,750 --> 01:47:26,492 Chapman was brought from prison 998 01:47:26,596 --> 01:47:30,448 to the state supreme court in Manhattan to hear the judge's sentence. 999 01:47:30,552 --> 01:47:32,661 Chapman showed no emotion whatsoever 1000 01:47:32,766 --> 01:47:35,915 when the sentence of 20 years to life was handed out, 1001 01:47:36,019 --> 01:47:40,837 but before that moment, there was to be detailed evidence about his state of mind. 1002 01:47:43,099 --> 01:47:47,005 Chapman sat in a blue T -shirt, holding a copy of Catcher in the Rye. 1003 01:47:47,109 --> 01:47:51,092 When the judge asked if he had anything to say before the sentence, 1004 01:47:51,197 --> 01:47:54,302 Chapman rose and read a short passage from the book. 1005 01:47:54,406 --> 01:47:57,400 "I'm standing at the edge of this crazy cliff." 1006 01:47:57,736 --> 01:48:00,139 "What I have to do, I have to catch everybody 1007 01:48:00,243 --> 01:48:05,272 if they start to go over the cliff - I mean if they don't Iook where they're going 1008 01:48:05,376 --> 01:48:08,774 I have to come out from somewhere and catch them." 1009 01:48:08,878 --> 01:48:11,484 "That's all I'II do all day." 1010 01:48:11,588 --> 01:48:15,110 "I'd just stand there and be the catcher in the rye and all." 1011 01:48:15,214 --> 01:48:19,865 "I know it's crazy, but that's the only thing I'd really Iike to be." 1012 01:48:19,969 --> 01:48:22,453 "I know it's crazy."81884

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