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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,526 --> 00:00:03,109 (upbeat music) 2 00:00:09,170 --> 00:00:11,290 There's so many questions that animals 3 00:00:11,290 --> 00:00:13,313 help us understand about ourselves. 4 00:00:14,830 --> 00:00:17,570 How does intelligence happen? 5 00:00:17,570 --> 00:00:19,260 How does it evolve? 6 00:00:19,260 --> 00:00:21,710 Why do some species solve problems one way 7 00:00:21,710 --> 00:00:23,963 and other species solve problems another way? 8 00:00:26,350 --> 00:00:29,960 If you wanna understand something that we do as a species, 9 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,190 that we're really curious, why do we do it? 10 00:00:32,190 --> 00:00:34,810 Animals often have answers for us. 11 00:00:34,810 --> 00:00:38,070 It might be because we share an ancestor, 12 00:00:38,070 --> 00:00:40,471 it might be that animals can help us answer 13 00:00:40,471 --> 00:00:44,114 why natural selection or evolution would have favored 14 00:00:44,114 --> 00:00:47,310 the thing that we're interested in explaining. 15 00:00:47,310 --> 00:00:49,793 Animals have something to say about all those questions. 16 00:00:51,270 --> 00:00:53,420 Is a dolphin smarter than a chimpanzee? 17 00:00:53,420 --> 00:00:55,540 Is a dog smarter than a cat? 18 00:00:55,540 --> 00:00:58,200 Ryan Hare is an evolutionary anthropologist 19 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,910 at Duke University, coauthor of a new book called 20 00:01:00,910 --> 00:01:04,113 The Genius of Dogs: How Dogs Are Smarter Than You Think. 21 00:01:11,478 --> 00:01:13,728 Good boy, Congo, come on. 22 00:01:14,579 --> 00:01:15,412 This way. 23 00:01:15,412 --> 00:01:17,240 Well probably the reason I study animal psychology 24 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,050 is 'cause of my pet dog growing up. 25 00:01:19,050 --> 00:01:21,914 His name was Oreo, and just like every dog owner, 26 00:01:21,914 --> 00:01:23,960 he'd look deeply into your eyes 27 00:01:23,960 --> 00:01:25,380 and you look deeply in his eyes 28 00:01:25,380 --> 00:01:27,900 and you'd wanna know what he was thinking. 29 00:01:27,900 --> 00:01:29,910 This is my guy now, his name's Congo. 30 00:01:29,910 --> 00:01:31,560 What's going on through his mind 31 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:32,750 and how does he think about us 32 00:01:32,750 --> 00:01:34,430 and how does he solve problems? 33 00:01:34,430 --> 00:01:37,010 That's what endlessly fascinates me. 34 00:01:37,010 --> 00:01:37,843 Good boy. 35 00:01:41,500 --> 00:01:43,450 Cognitive evolution is just like 36 00:01:43,450 --> 00:01:44,960 any other type of evolution. 37 00:01:44,960 --> 00:01:47,210 It means that there's changes in the brain 38 00:01:47,210 --> 00:01:51,210 that lead to changes in how animals behave, 39 00:01:51,210 --> 00:01:54,420 solve problems, interact with one another. 40 00:01:54,420 --> 00:01:56,520 And the study of cognitive evolution is trying 41 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,340 to understand well why do those changes happen? 42 00:01:58,340 --> 00:02:00,853 What are the forces that drive those changes? 43 00:02:02,190 --> 00:02:04,250 So if we're talking about where we are 44 00:02:04,250 --> 00:02:06,940 in the history of understanding cognitive evolution, 45 00:02:06,940 --> 00:02:10,780 to the exclusion of humans, I would say we're in an infancy. 46 00:02:10,780 --> 00:02:12,960 I think we know a lot about what is it that makes 47 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:14,980 human psychology different from animal psychology? 48 00:02:14,980 --> 00:02:17,290 I think we've got a pretty good handle on that. 49 00:02:17,290 --> 00:02:21,880 Where we know nothing is how psychology evolves, 50 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,490 how cognition involves in the animal world. 51 00:02:24,490 --> 00:02:26,970 There's been so little attention and effort, 52 00:02:26,970 --> 00:02:30,430 and the reason is because every university 53 00:02:30,430 --> 00:02:34,285 has zero to one people who studies animal psychology. 54 00:02:34,285 --> 00:02:37,660 So it's very hard if you're doing comparative cognition, 55 00:02:37,660 --> 00:02:40,080 you're comparing different species to one another, 56 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:41,450 but you're the only person there. 57 00:02:41,450 --> 00:02:43,734 Who are you gonna compare with? 58 00:02:43,734 --> 00:02:46,401 (melodic music) 59 00:02:54,860 --> 00:02:57,320 So we're gonna link up everybody all over the world, 60 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,973 so that we can work together and compare animals. 61 00:03:00,930 --> 00:03:02,380 We're gonna make a community. 62 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,563 There are different forms of intelligence on this planet. 63 00:03:08,670 --> 00:03:11,770 For me intelligence is solving problems 64 00:03:11,770 --> 00:03:14,853 that are gonna help you survive and reproduce. 65 00:03:14,853 --> 00:03:17,530 Almost certainly they involve your brain 66 00:03:17,530 --> 00:03:20,580 that is representing, storing and processing 67 00:03:20,580 --> 00:03:22,090 information you're taking in. 68 00:03:22,090 --> 00:03:26,203 If it involves those things, it's intelligent to me. 69 00:03:27,260 --> 00:03:29,820 There's been discovery after discovery, 70 00:03:29,820 --> 00:03:32,796 where animals that people would not have thought 71 00:03:32,796 --> 00:03:35,460 could do anything particularly interesting 72 00:03:35,460 --> 00:03:37,710 have amazing types of intelligence, 73 00:03:37,710 --> 00:03:41,980 and often challenge even our greatest abilities. 74 00:03:41,980 --> 00:03:45,360 Elephants have ultrasonic frequencies of communication 75 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:46,890 that we can't hear. 76 00:03:46,890 --> 00:03:50,444 There's ultraviolet perception in many animals. 77 00:03:50,444 --> 00:03:52,640 We can't see it, but animals that are 78 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,033 pollinating those flowers do. 79 00:03:55,033 --> 00:03:58,720 That's the first step, is define diverse range 80 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,340 of perceptual abilities that then problem solving 81 00:04:02,340 --> 00:04:04,730 and flexibility is built on top of. 82 00:04:04,730 --> 00:04:06,620 The best example, and I love to say this to people 83 00:04:06,620 --> 00:04:09,450 when they, you know, how can you say that 84 00:04:09,450 --> 00:04:11,460 an animal could be more intelligent than a human? 85 00:04:11,460 --> 00:04:12,780 And I always say well how'd you do 86 00:04:12,780 --> 00:04:14,213 on the echolocation test? 87 00:04:16,170 --> 00:04:17,710 Obviously you'd be hopeless. 88 00:04:17,710 --> 00:04:20,070 We don't have the ability to echolocate. 89 00:04:20,070 --> 00:04:23,350 Echolocation has evolved multiple times in mammals. 90 00:04:23,350 --> 00:04:26,567 Bats can echolocate, and so can cetaceans. 91 00:04:26,567 --> 00:04:29,440 Why is it that that type of intelligence evolved 92 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,873 in those species and it did not evolve in our lineage? 93 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,720 Self control, it's vital to almost everything 94 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,750 that we do as humans or that animals do. 95 00:04:41,750 --> 00:04:44,870 Whether it's a social decision, what should I say next? 96 00:04:44,870 --> 00:04:46,180 What should I do next? 97 00:04:46,180 --> 00:04:47,890 To what should I eat? 98 00:04:47,890 --> 00:04:48,970 Where should I go? 99 00:04:48,970 --> 00:04:51,560 All of those decisions involve self control. 100 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,300 The first time we brought a lot of people together 101 00:04:54,300 --> 00:04:57,620 to work on a problem of cognitive evolution, 102 00:04:57,620 --> 00:05:00,750 we were able to present 36 different species 103 00:05:00,750 --> 00:05:05,680 with a problem that we thought would measure self control. 104 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,050 You have to resist making a response 105 00:05:08,050 --> 00:05:10,640 that seems like the obvious solution to a problem. 106 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:15,640 What we found was that animals that have more complex diets, 107 00:05:16,100 --> 00:05:18,520 so basically just eat different types of food, 108 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,390 were the species that did better on the self control task. 109 00:05:22,390 --> 00:05:24,420 Species that had a much narrower diet, 110 00:05:24,420 --> 00:05:28,170 like a panda eating bamboo, versus say a great ape, 111 00:05:28,170 --> 00:05:30,070 all apes, humans included, 112 00:05:30,070 --> 00:05:32,219 eat hundreds of different species. 113 00:05:32,219 --> 00:05:35,410 And so the idea there is perhaps when you're 114 00:05:35,410 --> 00:05:37,930 having to make decisions as you're foraging 115 00:05:37,930 --> 00:05:40,530 about what to eat when. 116 00:05:40,530 --> 00:05:42,160 And you have to sort of inhibit 117 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,500 oh well there's food here and I'm hungry, 118 00:05:44,500 --> 00:05:46,700 but actually I'm not gonna get as much 119 00:05:46,700 --> 00:05:48,820 out of the thing I'm sitting in front of, 120 00:05:48,820 --> 00:05:50,830 I should move to the next source, 121 00:05:50,830 --> 00:05:52,810 where I'm gonna actually get a bigger payoff. 122 00:05:52,810 --> 00:05:54,680 And so you have to show some self control. 123 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,320 If you're just a panda and you're just always eating bamboo, 124 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,930 I mean there's always bamboo, you just eat the bamboo. 125 00:05:59,930 --> 00:06:01,910 There's really no need for self control. 126 00:06:01,910 --> 00:06:05,710 So that gave us a hint that really the force 127 00:06:05,710 --> 00:06:08,910 that may be driving changes in self control 128 00:06:08,910 --> 00:06:13,330 in evolution is diet, perhaps more than 129 00:06:13,330 --> 00:06:18,230 the complexity in the political machinations 130 00:06:18,230 --> 00:06:20,093 going on in animals' social lives. 131 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,410 Technically, chimpanzees and bonobos are more 132 00:06:27,410 --> 00:06:29,710 closely related to us than they are to gorillas. 133 00:06:29,710 --> 00:06:32,280 For all intents and purposes they look identical. 134 00:06:32,280 --> 00:06:35,210 Chimpanzees are incredible at making tools 135 00:06:35,210 --> 00:06:37,100 and using tools to get food that 136 00:06:37,100 --> 00:06:38,950 they couldn't have access to. 137 00:06:38,950 --> 00:06:42,490 It ends up that bonobos aren't that good at it. 138 00:06:42,490 --> 00:06:46,430 Flip side is that bonobos are incredibly empathic, 139 00:06:46,430 --> 00:06:49,350 they're very sensitive to the emotions of others 140 00:06:49,350 --> 00:06:52,270 and get very upset when others are upset. 141 00:06:52,270 --> 00:06:55,030 Chimpanzees tend to be more aggressive, 142 00:06:55,030 --> 00:06:56,870 especially male chimpanzees. 143 00:06:56,870 --> 00:06:58,820 They will murder each other. 144 00:06:58,820 --> 00:07:02,423 Females can be coerced and beaten in horrible ways. 145 00:07:02,423 --> 00:07:04,811 Bonobos really don't do any of those things. 146 00:07:04,811 --> 00:07:06,890 So you have these two close relatives 147 00:07:06,890 --> 00:07:09,260 where which one's more intelligent? 148 00:07:09,260 --> 00:07:11,550 Is it a chimp or a bonobo you might ask me, 149 00:07:11,550 --> 00:07:15,470 and what I would suggest is well that's the wrong question. 150 00:07:15,470 --> 00:07:19,280 The question is what are these different species' 151 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:20,580 cognitive profiles? 152 00:07:20,580 --> 00:07:23,410 And so I've spent a decade comparing chimpanzees 153 00:07:23,410 --> 00:07:25,510 and bonobos trying to understand what is 154 00:07:25,510 --> 00:07:28,450 the psychology that produces the different behavior? 155 00:07:28,450 --> 00:07:30,380 And think what we found in bonobos is 156 00:07:30,380 --> 00:07:33,610 that they are actually attracted to strangers, 157 00:07:33,610 --> 00:07:35,992 they actually have a preference for strangers. 158 00:07:35,992 --> 00:07:39,250 Whereas chimpanzees are very fearful of strangers, 159 00:07:39,250 --> 00:07:41,544 and that really is the psychology that's leading 160 00:07:41,544 --> 00:07:44,803 to a lot of these behavioral differences in aggression. 161 00:07:45,749 --> 00:07:48,810 (melodic music) 162 00:07:48,810 --> 00:07:50,740 Friendliness was not something that I had 163 00:07:50,740 --> 00:07:52,870 on top of my mind as something that 164 00:07:52,870 --> 00:07:54,970 drove cognitive evolution. 165 00:07:54,970 --> 00:07:57,420 It certainly was the animals that taught me that. 166 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:00,790 We presented chimpanzees and bonobos 167 00:08:00,790 --> 00:08:02,140 with a cooperative problem. 168 00:08:02,140 --> 00:08:04,100 Okay one, two, three, go! 169 00:08:04,100 --> 00:08:06,405 They had to pull a tray using ropes 170 00:08:06,405 --> 00:08:08,130 to be able to eat food, 171 00:08:08,130 --> 00:08:10,470 and while we've seen so much evidence 172 00:08:10,470 --> 00:08:12,384 for cooperation in wild chimpanzees, 173 00:08:12,384 --> 00:08:16,314 when we began studying cooperation in captive settings, 174 00:08:16,314 --> 00:08:18,930 you're trying to use experimental approaches, 175 00:08:18,930 --> 00:08:22,920 we had failed miserably to get chimpanzees to cooperate. 176 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,830 Well we finally realized, the reason we couldn't 177 00:08:25,830 --> 00:08:28,211 get them to cooperate in captivity 178 00:08:28,211 --> 00:08:32,310 was because it really mattered who they were with, 179 00:08:32,310 --> 00:08:33,763 and if they were with somebody that they 180 00:08:33,763 --> 00:08:37,000 would have a friendly relationship with, 181 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,700 boom, they could cooperate instantly. 182 00:08:38,700 --> 00:08:41,370 But if there was somebody that they were intolerant of, 183 00:08:41,370 --> 00:08:42,500 they could never cooperate. 184 00:08:42,500 --> 00:08:45,080 And we could turn on and off their cooperative ability 185 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,733 just by rearranging them with different individuals. 186 00:08:49,030 --> 00:08:52,380 Bonobos are far more tolerant than chimpanzees. 187 00:08:52,380 --> 00:08:53,930 We gave them the same set of problems 188 00:08:53,930 --> 00:08:56,010 but they'd never seen it before. 189 00:08:56,010 --> 00:08:58,290 They didn't have any knowledge. 190 00:08:58,290 --> 00:09:00,810 And it didn't matter who we paired them with, 191 00:09:00,810 --> 00:09:02,440 they solved it spontaneously. 192 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:03,790 They were friends and they were tolerant 193 00:09:03,790 --> 00:09:04,623 so they could do it together. 194 00:09:04,623 --> 00:09:06,153 Yay, bonobo! 195 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,780 So it really is, when you put them in direct opposition, 196 00:09:10,780 --> 00:09:14,510 knowledge versus tolerance in a cooperative task. 197 00:09:14,510 --> 00:09:16,690 Tolerance wins every time. 198 00:09:16,690 --> 00:09:19,490 In many ways, bonobos are sort of like 199 00:09:19,490 --> 00:09:22,884 the domesticated dog of our ape family. 200 00:09:22,884 --> 00:09:25,230 Chimpanzees would be more wolf-like. 201 00:09:25,230 --> 00:09:27,220 And comparing everything from their morphology, 202 00:09:27,220 --> 00:09:30,120 their behavior, their psychology, their physiology, 203 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,440 many of the differences we see between wolves and dogs 204 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,890 we see between bonobos and chimpanzees. 205 00:09:34,890 --> 00:09:36,080 And why is that? 206 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:37,850 Why is it that you have these two 207 00:09:37,850 --> 00:09:39,820 distantly related pair of species 208 00:09:39,820 --> 00:09:43,480 that have become so similar in the way 209 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:44,850 that they've changed from one another. 210 00:09:44,850 --> 00:09:46,490 What was the process that drove it? 211 00:09:46,490 --> 00:09:49,810 We think it's the same evolutionary force, 212 00:09:49,810 --> 00:09:52,510 and we think that force is selection for friendliness. 213 00:09:54,196 --> 00:09:56,980 (melodic music) 214 00:09:56,980 --> 00:09:58,940 If you were to ask me the species that 215 00:09:58,940 --> 00:10:02,240 is most like a human infant in its ability 216 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,040 to communicate with us, it's not organisms 217 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,180 like a chimpanzee or bonobo that have much larger brains 218 00:10:08,180 --> 00:10:11,030 and are obviously closer relatives to us. 219 00:10:11,030 --> 00:10:13,620 It's the humble dog that is so good at this. 220 00:10:13,620 --> 00:10:14,453 Speak. 221 00:10:14,453 --> 00:10:15,286 (dog barking) 222 00:10:15,286 --> 00:10:16,240 Hush, hush, hush, hush. 223 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:17,760 They share an evolutionary history with us 224 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,310 for the last 25 to 40,000 years. 225 00:10:20,310 --> 00:10:23,615 Dogs evolved when interacting with hunter gatherers 226 00:10:23,615 --> 00:10:26,190 and then you look at the effect 227 00:10:26,190 --> 00:10:27,850 that selection for friendliness has, 228 00:10:27,850 --> 00:10:30,700 it doesn't take much to then imagine that 229 00:10:30,700 --> 00:10:33,202 as humans start living at higher density, 230 00:10:33,202 --> 00:10:37,100 that what do we do amazingly well is create garbage, 231 00:10:37,100 --> 00:10:39,480 and the garbage that we create 232 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,930 is a new ecological niche. 233 00:10:41,930 --> 00:10:44,170 If you're a wolf they can sneak in and get close 234 00:10:44,170 --> 00:10:47,080 and take advantage of the resources that humans 235 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,880 are producing as we start living at higher density. 236 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,570 Ooh, you no longer have to get kicked in the face 237 00:10:52,570 --> 00:10:56,244 and chase whatever you eat, it's gonna be a reliable, 238 00:10:56,244 --> 00:10:59,060 sustainable source of food. 239 00:10:59,060 --> 00:11:01,850 The selection though that's gonna be acting on you 240 00:11:01,850 --> 00:11:05,810 is you're no longer afraid of humans, 241 00:11:05,810 --> 00:11:07,780 you're attracted to humans. 242 00:11:07,780 --> 00:11:10,640 And so what we think happened is over many generations 243 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,060 there was this really strong selection 244 00:11:12,060 --> 00:11:14,230 for attraction to humans and friendliness 245 00:11:14,230 --> 00:11:16,390 and a lack of aggression. 246 00:11:16,390 --> 00:11:17,870 All of those things put together, 247 00:11:17,870 --> 00:11:19,210 understanding our evolution, 248 00:11:19,210 --> 00:11:21,160 understanding the effect of domestication, 249 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,090 and the fact that they have jobs, 250 00:11:23,090 --> 00:11:26,470 there are dogs that are helping detect endangered animals, 251 00:11:26,470 --> 00:11:27,730 there are dogs that are helping people with 252 00:11:27,730 --> 00:11:29,400 mental and physical disabilities, 253 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:33,380 there are dogs that are checking for bed bugs, 254 00:11:33,380 --> 00:11:35,500 finding cancers. 255 00:11:35,500 --> 00:11:37,860 Makes dogs really one of the most interesting 256 00:11:37,860 --> 00:11:39,756 and important species to study. 257 00:11:39,756 --> 00:11:42,530 In many ways dogs have converged and become 258 00:11:42,530 --> 00:11:45,823 more like people, more like humans than wolves. 259 00:11:48,290 --> 00:11:50,190 If you're a domesticated dog you're really good 260 00:11:50,190 --> 00:11:51,870 at using human gestures. 261 00:11:51,870 --> 00:11:54,300 Understanding gestures is this amazing thing. 262 00:11:54,300 --> 00:11:57,037 It seems to develop extremely early in dogs. 263 00:11:57,037 --> 00:11:59,010 Of course the reason we got interested in this 264 00:11:59,010 --> 00:12:02,040 is because it's the skill that is so important 265 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,260 and early emerging in our own species as kids 266 00:12:04,260 --> 00:12:07,990 start to learn culture and pick up language skills. 267 00:12:07,990 --> 00:12:11,448 Using pointing gestures or using 268 00:12:11,448 --> 00:12:13,710 the direction that we look to infer 269 00:12:13,710 --> 00:12:16,600 what we want or where we want them to go, 270 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,020 it lasts throughout their lives, 271 00:12:18,020 --> 00:12:21,597 it doesn't decline as other types of cognitive functions do. 272 00:12:21,597 --> 00:12:23,694 It's kind of remarkable. 273 00:12:23,694 --> 00:12:26,361 (melodic music) 274 00:12:27,410 --> 00:12:29,790 It's often misreported as some dogs have been 275 00:12:29,790 --> 00:12:31,340 trained to have a large vocabulary. 276 00:12:31,340 --> 00:12:32,300 That's not the finding. 277 00:12:32,300 --> 00:12:33,560 Chase. 278 00:12:33,560 --> 00:12:34,393 Chase. 279 00:12:34,393 --> 00:12:35,240 Frisbee. 280 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:36,073 Take Frisbee. 281 00:12:36,073 --> 00:12:40,074 The finding is that they, with one trial learning, 282 00:12:40,074 --> 00:12:44,000 are able to label an object, a novel object, 283 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,883 and remember that label for a week or a month later. 284 00:12:46,883 --> 00:12:48,760 But that's not the surprise. 285 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,800 If you were to show one of those dogs a picture 286 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,833 and say get this object in the picture, 287 00:12:55,833 --> 00:12:57,490 they can go get it. 288 00:12:57,490 --> 00:12:59,440 Now that may sound like no big deal, 289 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,750 but that is effectively symbolic representation. 290 00:13:03,750 --> 00:13:07,290 It's one of the hallmarks of human language acquisition. 291 00:13:07,290 --> 00:13:08,780 When they told me they were doing that I thought 292 00:13:08,780 --> 00:13:11,770 there is no way a dog is gonna do that, 293 00:13:11,770 --> 00:13:12,840 I can't even believe you're trying. 294 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,170 But yeah, go for it. 295 00:13:14,170 --> 00:13:16,820 And not only did they do it, they did it really well. 296 00:13:19,830 --> 00:13:21,640 Lessons from dogs. 297 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:22,480 Be nice. 298 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:23,630 (laughing) 299 00:13:23,630 --> 00:13:24,463 Dont bite. 300 00:13:25,620 --> 00:13:27,590 I mean I think the thing that everybody loves about dogs 301 00:13:27,590 --> 00:13:29,330 is they're just always so optimistic 302 00:13:29,330 --> 00:13:31,660 that now's gonna be the fun time, 303 00:13:31,660 --> 00:13:35,130 and then just so forgiving and loving. 304 00:13:35,130 --> 00:13:38,629 I hope I can be the person my dog thinks I am. 305 00:13:38,629 --> 00:13:41,373 I think we'd all be better if we could manage it. 306 00:13:45,117 --> 00:13:46,317 Good boy. 307 00:13:46,317 --> 00:13:48,984 (melodic music) 308 00:13:55,950 --> 00:13:57,870 I think the thing I'm most excited about 309 00:13:57,870 --> 00:14:01,160 with this diverse intelligence grant is I think 310 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,070 we're gonna discover new types of intelligence. 311 00:14:04,070 --> 00:14:06,680 I think there's species that have been ignored 312 00:14:06,680 --> 00:14:09,391 or have never been studied in how they 313 00:14:09,391 --> 00:14:11,710 interact with the world psychologically. 314 00:14:11,710 --> 00:14:14,650 We're gonna find intelligence, flexibility, 315 00:14:14,650 --> 00:14:16,950 sophistication, where we least expect it, 316 00:14:16,950 --> 00:14:20,013 and the hope is that this effort will get us crawling, 317 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,963 and maybe even running if we're lucky. 318 00:14:26,257 --> 00:14:28,924 (melodic music) 25062

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