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>> I guess it was about 2 1/2 years ago. I was walking around the city,

2 1/2 years ago. I was walking around the city, and I started seeing these crazy

I was walking around the city, and I started seeing these crazy fliers up on poles everywhere.

And I started seeing these crazy fliers up on poles everywhere. The first flier I think I kind

Fliers up on poles everywhere. The first flier I think I kind of half-read, and it just seemed

The first flier I think I kind of half-read, and it just seemed to be marketing for some sort of

Of half-read, and it just seemed to be marketing for some sort of invention.

To be marketing for some sort of invention. I think it was the vital-orbit

Invention. I think it was the vital-orbit was the first one I saw.

I think it was the vital-orbit was the first one I saw. Didn't even pull one of the

Was the first one I saw. Didn't even pull one of the little fliers yet.

It wasn't until I walked around more and more and started

More and more and started seeing some of the other fliers

Seeing some of the other fliers that I really started wondering

That I really started wondering what the heck this thing even

What the heck this thing even was.

I started grabbing some of the little tags and calling the numbers and hearing the

Little tags and calling the numbers and hearing the messages.

Numbers and hearing the messages. >> thank you for calling

Messages. >> thank you for calling the jejune institute,

>> thank you for calling the jejune institute, san francisco headquarters.

The jejune institute, san francisco headquarters. We would like to invite you to

San francisco headquarters. We would like to invite you to a special orientation session.

We would like to invite you to a special orientation session. We are located at

A special orientation session. We are located at 580 california street,

We are located at 580 california street, suite 1067.

580 california street, suite 1067. For those dark horses with the

Suite 1067. For those dark horses with the spirit to look up and see, a

For those dark horses with the spirit to look up and see, a recondite family awaits.

Spirit to look up and see, a recondite family awaits. >> I kind of didn't know what to

Recondite family awaits. >> I kind of didn't know what to think.

>> I kind of didn't know what to think. I at first thought, "okay,

Think. I at first thought, "okay, someone's making these crazy

I at first thought, "okay, someone's making these crazy advertisements for something

Someone's making these crazy advertisements for something that's almost too impossible to

Advertisements for something that's almost too impossible to even exist.

That's almost too impossible to even exist. And they seem to be urging me to

Even exist. And they seem to be urging me to visit this physical place."

And they seem to be urging me to visit this physical place." once I got to

Visit this physical place." once I got to 580 california street, I was

Once I got to 580 california street, I was kind of intimidated a bit by

580 california street, I was kind of intimidated a bit by both the locale and the

Kind of intimidated a bit by both the locale and the building.

Both the locale and the building. I realized this is downtown

Building. I realized this is downtown financial district.

I realized this is downtown financial district. This is a high-rent district.

Financial district. This is a high-rent district. This is a place where you have

This is a high-rent district. This is a place where you have bank of america.

This is a place where you have bank of america. I walked in and asked for the

Bank of america. I walked in and asked for the jejune institute.

I walked in and asked for the jejune institute. The security guard seemed to

Jejune institute. The security guard seemed to know what the place was.

The security guard seemed to know what the place was. Asked for my I.D., had me sign

Know what the place was. Asked for my I.D., had me sign in, gave me a visitor badge, and

Asked for my I.D., had me sign in, gave me a visitor badge, and at that point directed me to the

In, gave me a visitor badge, and at that point directed me to the elevators.

At that point directed me to the elevators. I get out and see this very

Elevators. I get out and see this very normal-looking lobby.

I get out and see this very normal-looking lobby. And I see the receptionist

Normal-looking lobby. And I see the receptionist there, who didn't really seem at

And I see the receptionist there, who didn't really seem at at all like anybody from the

There, who didn't really seem at at all like anybody from the website.

At all like anybody from the website. You know, I wasn't really seeing

Website. You know, I wasn't really seeing the name of this company I was

You know, I wasn't really seeing the name of this company I was looking for.

The name of this company I was looking for. And the receptionist asked me if

Looking for. And the receptionist asked me if she could help me.

And the receptionist asked me if she could help me. I said, "yeah, I'm here for the

She could help me. I said, "yeah, I'm here for the jejune institute."

I said, "yeah, I'm here for the jejune institute." and she handed me a key.

Jejune institute." and she handed me a key. And that seemed to be that.

And she handed me a key. And that seemed to be that. On one side's a map.

And that seemed to be that. On one side's a map. On the other side, there's

On one side's a map. On the other side, there's instructions guiding me through

On the other side, there's instructions guiding me through the floor I'm on to some

Instructions guiding me through the floor I'm on to some location.

The floor I'm on to some location. So, I navigated the floor based

Location. So, I navigated the floor based on the map and the instructions

So, I navigated the floor based on the map and the instructions and ended up at a room.

On the map and the instructions and ended up at a room. >> greetings.

And ended up at a room. >> greetings. Welcome to

>> greetings. Welcome to the jejune institute,

Welcome to the jejune institute, san francisco induction center.

The jejune institute, san francisco induction center. Please enter the room and close

San francisco induction center. Please enter the room and close the door behind you.

Please enter the room and close the door behind you. Now have a seat in the lounge

The door behind you. Now have a seat in the lounge chair provided for you.

Now have a seat in the lounge chair provided for you. In a moment, our orientation

Chair provided for you. In a moment, our orientation program will begin.

In a moment, our orientation program will begin. 5...4...3...2...And 1.

>> you now sit in a satellite induction office of the jejune institute, located

Induction office of the jejune institute, located in the deep forests of

The jejune institute, located in the deep forests of san francisco.

In the deep forests of san francisco. The room in which you are

San francisco. The room in which you are currently located rests exactly

The room in which you are currently located rests exactly six floors beneath our global

Currently located rests exactly six floors beneath our global headquarters.

Six floors beneath our global headquarters. The california center is one of

Headquarters. The california center is one of many such stations spread

The california center is one of many such stations spread around the globe, in locations

Many such stations spread around the globe, in locations such as oslo, seville, algiers,

Around the globe, in locations such as oslo, seville, algiers, bombay, quebec, and santiago.

Such as oslo, seville, algiers, bombay, quebec, and santiago. But the origins of

Bombay, quebec, and santiago. But the origins of the jejune institute are right

But the origins of the jejune institute are right here.

The jejune institute are right here. It all began in 1962, when a

Here. It all began in 1962, when a small group of academics came

It all began in 1962, when a small group of academics came together around a common

Small group of academics came together around a common interest in the advancement of

Together around a common interest in the advancement of socio-reengineering.

Interest in the advancement of socio-reengineering. During the '60s, the society

Socio-reengineering. During the '60s, the society was a closely knit forum for

During the '60s, the society was a closely knit forum for experimental research

Was a closely knit forum for experimental research techniques, utilized to expand

Experimental research techniques, utilized to expand interpersonal trust among

Techniques, utilized to expand interpersonal trust among fellow human subjects.

During the 1970s, under the leadership of luminary metaphysicist

Leadership of luminary metaphysicist octavio coleman, esquire, the

Metaphysicist octavio coleman, esquire, the institute gained a wide

Octavio coleman, esquire, the institute gained a wide influence and prestige for

Institute gained a wide influence and prestige for which it is now known.

Along with contemporaries werner erhard and stewart emery, coleman helped

Werner erhard and stewart emery, coleman helped spearhead the still-nascent

Stewart emery, coleman helped spearhead the still-nascent movement of personal growth and

Spearhead the still-nascent movement of personal growth and self-help.

Movement of personal growth and self-help. The work they did

Self-help. The work they did collaboratively, amid the

The work they did collaboratively, amid the breeding grounds of est,

Collaboratively, amid the breeding grounds of est, echelon, and dianetics helped

Breeding grounds of est, echelon, and dianetics helped to spawn a thousand like-minded

Echelon, and dianetics helped to spawn a thousand like-minded prophets of pop psychology.

To spawn a thousand like-minded prophets of pop psychology. But what the jejune institute

Prophets of pop psychology. But what the jejune institute is most celebrated for today

But what the jejune institute is most celebrated for today are the many advanced

Is most celebrated for today are the many advanced technological products and

Are the many advanced technological products and services they have brought to

Technological products and services they have brought to the international marketplace.

Services they have brought to the international marketplace. These developments include

The international marketplace. These developments include poliwater, a more condensed

These developments include poliwater, a more condensed form of water, with a higher

Poliwater, a more condensed form of water, with a higher boiling point, a lower freezing

Form of water, with a higher boiling point, a lower freezing point, and astounding

Boiling point, a lower freezing point, and astounding regenerative properties upon

Point, and astounding regenerative properties upon all organic compounds...

The vital-orbit human forcefield -- a hydrodynamic conductor based upon the

Forcefield -- a hydrodynamic conductor based upon the tesla core, which acts as an

Conductor based upon the tesla core, which acts as an external ambassador to your

Tesla core, which acts as an external ambassador to your body...

External ambassador to your body... And our foremost project, which

Body... And our foremost project, which will utterly revolutionize the

And our foremost project, which will utterly revolutionize the way that human beings interact

Will utterly revolutionize the way that human beings interact both interpersonally and

Way that human beings interact both interpersonally and socio-politically, jejune's

Both interpersonally and socio-politically, jejune's algorithm -- a small, mobile

Socio-politically, jejune's algorithm -- a small, mobile device encasing a complex

Algorithm -- a small, mobile device encasing a complex mathematical code that will

Device encasing a complex mathematical code that will instantly and permanently

Mathematical code that will instantly and permanently reduce all human conflict,

Instantly and permanently reduce all human conflict, violence, and heartbreak.

Reduce all human conflict, violence, and heartbreak. Patent pending.

Violence, and heartbreak. Patent pending. >> I will admit that this was a

Patent pending. >> I will admit that this was a rather bizarre experience, and I

>> I will admit that this was a rather bizarre experience, and I had no real clue that when I

Rather bizarre experience, and I had no real clue that when I went down there, this would be

Had no real clue that when I went down there, this would be what would be there.

Went down there, this would be what would be there. And then, on the tv appears this

What would be there. And then, on the tv appears this rather strange-looking old man,

And then, on the tv appears this rather strange-looking old man, who's calling himself

Rather strange-looking old man, who's calling himself octavio coleman, esquire.

>> you will begin to notice the divine occurring all around you in a thousand miniscule ways

Divine occurring all around you in a thousand miniscule ways constantly, all the time.

In a thousand miniscule ways constantly, all the time. So, we will begin the induction

Constantly, all the time. So, we will begin the induction process.

So, we will begin the induction process. >> at one point, he makes

Process. >> at one point, he makes mention of the desk sitting next

>> at one point, he makes mention of the desk sitting next to the chair that I'm in and how

Mention of the desk sitting next to the chair that I'm in and how I really shouldn't open the

To the chair that I'm in and how I really shouldn't open the drawer that's there and take

I really shouldn't open the drawer that's there and take what's inside.

Drawer that's there and take what's inside. And then, at that point, of

What's inside. And then, at that point, of course, I had to open it and

And then, at that point, of course, I had to open it and look in the drawer.

Course, I had to open it and look in the drawer. And that's when I, for the very

Look in the drawer. And that's when I, for the very first time, saw what would later

And that's when I, for the very first time, saw what would later be referred to as the

First time, saw what would later be referred to as the induction card.

Be referred to as the induction card. And it looked like a crazy

Induction card. And it looked like a crazy person designed it.

And it looked like a crazy person designed it. I started realizing it was

Person designed it. I started realizing it was telling me how to navigate

I started realizing it was telling me how to navigate myself out of this building and

Telling me how to navigate myself out of this building and to do so in a way that evaded

Myself out of this building and to do so in a way that evaded the security of the building.

To do so in a way that evaded the security of the building. So, I thought I'd give it a

The security of the building. So, I thought I'd give it a shot.

So, I thought I'd give it a shot. >> you may suddenly begin to

Shot. >> you may suddenly begin to notice small things around you

>> you may suddenly begin to notice small things around you you had never before noticed.

Notice small things around you you had never before noticed. And those minute details will

You had never before noticed. And those minute details will lead to other, more significant

And those minute details will lead to other, more significant observations and so on,

Lead to other, more significant observations and so on, ad infinitum, until your entire

Observations and so on, ad infinitum, until your entire universe is transformed

Ad infinitum, until your entire universe is transformed forever.

>> what happened next is in following the card, I end up going on this very eccentric,

Following the card, I end up going on this very eccentric, hour-long -- I guess you would

Going on this very eccentric, hour-long -- I guess you would say like a scavenger-hunt sort

Hour-long -- I guess you would say like a scavenger-hunt sort of adventure.

Say like a scavenger-hunt sort of adventure. There were lots of unanswered

Of adventure. There were lots of unanswered questions -- who's behind this?

There were lots of unanswered questions -- who's behind this? Where is it leading?

Questions -- who's behind this? Where is it leading? What's the point?

Where is it leading? What's the point? And as it started to unfold,

What's the point? And as it started to unfold, more and more things kind of

And as it started to unfold, more and more things kind of came to light, especially things

More and more things kind of came to light, especially things like new terminology.

Came to light, especially things like new terminology. The word "nonchalance" was maybe

Like new terminology. The word "nonchalance" was maybe being used in ways that I hadn't

The word "nonchalance" was maybe being used in ways that I hadn't really seen it used before.

Being used in ways that I hadn't really seen it used before. I guess I was afraid that at

Really seen it used before. I guess I was afraid that at some point I would be marketed

I guess I was afraid that at some point I would be marketed to.

Some point I would be marketed to. It'd be like, "well, thank you

To. It'd be like, "well, thank you for going through this thing.

It'd be like, "well, thank you for going through this thing. Buy reese's peanut butter cups"

For going through this thing. Buy reese's peanut butter cups" or something like that, you

Buy reese's peanut butter cups" or something like that, you know?

Or something like that, you know? But that never seemed to happen.

Know? But that never seemed to happen. In fact, the more I pull on

But that never seemed to happen. In fact, the more I pull on threads, the more the lines were

In fact, the more I pull on threads, the more the lines were really blurred between what I

Threads, the more the lines were really blurred between what I viewed as the insanity I was

Really blurred between what I viewed as the insanity I was kind of experiencing and the

Viewed as the insanity I was kind of experiencing and the insanity of the real world.

Kind of experiencing and the insanity of the real world. In fact, I would say that a lot

Insanity of the real world. In fact, I would say that a lot of insanity you run into?

In fact, I would say that a lot of insanity you run into? It's insanity, and you can set

Of insanity you run into? It's insanity, and you can set it over here.

It's insanity, and you can set it over here. But the insanity that I was

It over here. But the insanity that I was getting exposed to so much

But the insanity that I was getting exposed to so much blurred the lines between real

Getting exposed to so much blurred the lines between real insanity and perhaps fake

Blurred the lines between real insanity and perhaps fake insanity that there was really

Insanity and perhaps fake insanity that there was really no distinction.

Insanity that there was really no distinction. I think my eyes really were

No distinction. I think my eyes really were opening up and seeing the world

I think my eyes really were opening up and seeing the world in a different way.

Opening up and seeing the world in a different way. >> I felt like I felt before

In a different way. >> I felt like I felt before when I was watching a movie, and

>> I felt like I felt before when I was watching a movie, and the movie ended, and I left the

When I was watching a movie, and the movie ended, and I left the movie theater.

And everything outside seems better than it did before that.

Better than it did before that. Like, the colors are brighter,

Like, the colors are brighter, or the world looks like a

Or the world looks like a different place.

And I wanted to keep feeling that way, instead of just walking around going, "well, I'm

That way, instead of just walking around going, "well, I'm going to my job.

Walking around going, "well, I'm going to my job. Well, I have to go do laundry."

Going to my job. Well, I have to go do laundry." instead, I was walking around

Well, I have to go do laundry." instead, I was walking around and looking at stuff with a

Instead, I was walking around and looking at stuff with a different purpose.

And looking at stuff with a different purpose. Instead of just trying to get

Different purpose. Instead of just trying to get from point "a" to point "b," I

Instead of just trying to get from point "a" to point "b," I was looking for clues.

From point "a" to point "b," I was looking for clues. Towards the end of the

Was looking for clues. Towards the end of the induction, on the card, you're

Towards the end of the induction, on the card, you're instructed to call the

Induction, on the card, you're instructed to call the detective.

Instructed to call the detective. And when you call the detective,

Detective. And when you call the detective, he drops a clue about

And when you call the detective, he drops a clue about cooper alley.

He drops a clue about cooper alley. It turns out there's a shrine to

Cooper alley. It turns out there's a shrine to someone named eva.

It turns out there's a shrine to someone named eva. Says, "we miss you, eva."

Someone named eva. Says, "we miss you, eva." then, at that point, you're

Says, "we miss you, eva." then, at that point, you're instructed to go back to the

Then, at that point, you're instructed to go back to the building, and you're given a key

Instructed to go back to the building, and you're given a key to this wall of lockers.

Building, and you're given a key to this wall of lockers. There's a tiny, little peephole,

To this wall of lockers. There's a tiny, little peephole, and inside there are these sort

There's a tiny, little peephole, and inside there are these sort of partial letters and numbers

And inside there are these sort of partial letters and numbers and things like that.

Of partial letters and numbers and things like that. And then, at the very end of the

And things like that. And then, at the very end of the cycle, it comes together, and

And then, at the very end of the cycle, it comes together, and it's the same face that was in

Cycle, it comes together, and it's the same face that was in the alley.

It's the same face that was in the alley. About the same time, I got a

The alley. About the same time, I got a text message saying, "tune in to

About the same time, I got a text message saying, "tune in to radio nonchalance in

Text message saying, "tune in to radio nonchalance in upper dolores park."

Radio nonchalance in upper dolores park." I actually drove up here in my

Upper dolores park." I actually drove up here in my car because I didn't have a

I actually drove up here in my car because I didn't have a radio.

Car because I didn't have a radio. And I sat in my car for about a

Radio. And I sat in my car for about a half an hour listening to this

And I sat in my car for about a half an hour listening to this station.

>> over the course of an hour, there strange news factoids. There was an interview with the

There strange news factoids. There was an interview with the proprietor of the world's

There was an interview with the proprietor of the world's smallest postal service.

There was talk of strange conspiracy. There was a rant against

Conspiracy. There was a rant against octavio coleman.

There was a rant against octavio coleman. There was all sorts of fun

Octavio coleman. There was all sorts of fun stuff.

There was all sorts of fun stuff. It felt very much like listening

Stuff. It felt very much like listening to someone like art bell on the

It felt very much like listening to someone like art bell on the radio.

To someone like art bell on the radio. You can't tell if he's for real

Radio. You can't tell if he's for real or not.

You can't tell if he's for real or not. >> and now cryptic radio brins

Or not. >> and now cryptic radio brins you the secret of nonchalance.

>> and now cryptic radio brins you the secret of nonchalance. What is nonchalance?

You the secret of nonchalance. What is nonchalance? And who are its hidden

What is nonchalance? And who are its hidden followers?

And who are its hidden followers? This is your announcer,

Followers? This is your announcer, commander 14, broadcasting for

This is your announcer, commander 14, broadcasting for a limited time on this special

Commander 14, broadcasting for a limited time on this special frequency.

A limited time on this special frequency. Keep tuned for vital

Frequency. Keep tuned for vital information.

Keep tuned for vital information. Follow along as we disclose a

Information. Follow along as we disclose a world whose secret presence may

Follow along as we disclose a world whose secret presence may mean the difference between

World whose secret presence may mean the difference between enlightenment and total

Mean the difference between enlightenment and total incomprehension.

Enlightenment and total incomprehension. And just what do we mean by

Incomprehension. And just what do we mean by nonchalance, anyway?

And just what do we mean by nonchalance, anyway? A casual way of sauntering down

Nonchalance, anyway? A casual way of sauntering down the street?

A casual way of sauntering down the street? A kind of cool, perhaps?

The street? A kind of cool, perhaps? You like cartoons, don't you?

A kind of cool, perhaps? You like cartoons, don't you? Of course you do.

You like cartoons, don't you? Of course you do. Everyone likes cartoons.

Of course you do. Everyone likes cartoons. Observe as our animated

Everyone likes cartoons. Observe as our animated protagonist stumbles blindly

Observe as our animated protagonist stumbles blindly out of bed, down the stairs,

Protagonist stumbles blindly out of bed, down the stairs, and out the front door, onto a

Out of bed, down the stairs, and out the front door, onto a busy street.

And out the front door, onto a busy street. He easily but narrowly dodges

Busy street. He easily but narrowly dodges impending danger, seemingly

He easily but narrowly dodges impending danger, seemingly without effort or awareness.

Impending danger, seemingly without effort or awareness. Bricks from a construction site

Without effort or awareness. Bricks from a construction site almost but do not fall on him.

Bricks from a construction site almost but do not fall on him. At the last minute, as he's

Almost but do not fall on him. At the last minute, as he's about to step into an open

At the last minute, as he's about to step into an open manhole in the street, he's

About to step into an open manhole in the street, he's miraculously spared the fall.

Manhole in the street, he's miraculously spared the fall. And after numerous similar

Miraculously spared the fall. And after numerous similar close calls, his unconscious

And after numerous similar close calls, his unconscious path is turned around in a

Close calls, his unconscious path is turned around in a revolving door.

Path is turned around in a revolving door. And in his own building, by

Revolving door. And in his own building, by fortunate coincide, he's

And in his own building, by fortunate coincide, he's somehow returned to bed,

Fortunate coincide, he's somehow returned to bed, unharmed by the end of the

Somehow returned to bed, unharmed by the end of the cartoon.

Unharmed by the end of the cartoon. This ability, to be supported

Cartoon. This ability, to be supported and guarded by extraordinary

This ability, to be supported and guarded by extraordinary good luck, is called

And guarded by extraordinary good luck, is called "divine nonchalance."

Good luck, is called "divine nonchalance." by definition, the nonchalant

"divine nonchalance." by definition, the nonchalant is wonderfully scattered and

By definition, the nonchalant is wonderfully scattered and lacking in all external

Is wonderfully scattered and lacking in all external direction.

Lacking in all external direction. The ride is fantastic, but the

Direction. The ride is fantastic, but the destination remains uncertain.

The ride is fantastic, but the destination remains uncertain. >> you are listening to

Destination remains uncertain. >> you are listening to radio nonchalance, dispatches

>> you are listening to radio nonchalance, dispatches from elsewhere.

Radio nonchalance, dispatches from elsewhere. Support for this program has

From elsewhere. Support for this program has been provided by the

Support for this program has been provided by the elsewhere public works agency.

Been provided by the elsewhere public works agency. Now back to our program.

Elsewhere public works agency. Now back to our program. >> well, the epwa's position on

Now back to our program. >> well, the epwa's position on the jejune institute is that

>> well, the epwa's position on the jejune institute is that they were selling false

The jejune institute is that they were selling false nonchalance.

They were selling false nonchalance. And what they meant by that, as

Nonchalance. And what they meant by that, as best as I can tell, is that

And what they meant by that, as best as I can tell, is that that creative spark which drives

Best as I can tell, is that that creative spark which drives humanity cannot be marketed,

That creative spark which drives humanity cannot be marketed, cannot be sold, cannot be given

Humanity cannot be marketed, cannot be sold, cannot be given to you in a bottle.

Cannot be sold, cannot be given to you in a bottle. You either have those moments,

To you in a bottle. You either have those moments, or you don't, and you can't

You either have those moments, or you don't, and you can't control it.

Or you don't, and you can't control it. So, anybody who tells you

Control it. So, anybody who tells you otherwise is selling you

So, anybody who tells you otherwise is selling you something.

Otherwise is selling you something. >> attention!

Something. >> attention! This is commander 14 of

>> attention! This is commander 14 of cryptic radio.

This is commander 14 of cryptic radio. Nonchalance is all around you.

Cryptic radio. Nonchalance is all around you. Wake up!

Nonchalance is all around you. Wake up! It's later than you think.

Wake up! It's later than you think. The false prophets are even now

It's later than you think. The false prophets are even now consolidating their forces, as

The false prophets are even now consolidating their forces, as they draw up their plans

Consolidating their forces, as they draw up their plans against us.

They draw up their plans against us. Beware especially the one the

Against us. Beware especially the one the world calls

Beware especially the one the world calls "octavio coleman, esquire," for

World calls "octavio coleman, esquire," for he is in the present era the

"octavio coleman, esquire," for he is in the present era the main opponent of nonchalance

He is in the present era the main opponent of nonchalance and a cynical and fiendishly

Main opponent of nonchalance and a cynical and fiendishly inspired devisor of false

And a cynical and fiendishly inspired devisor of false nonchalance.

Founder of the jejune institute, chief funder of the algorithm, main

Jejune institute, chief funder of the algorithm, main perpetrator of false

Of the algorithm, main perpetrator of false nonchalance, cia operative and

Perpetrator of false nonchalance, cia operative and information, saboteur and

Nonchalance, cia operative and information, saboteur and provocateur

Information, saboteur and provocateur octavio coleman, esquire, is

Provocateur octavio coleman, esquire, is the man who is behind all of

Octavio coleman, esquire, is the man who is behind all of the monitoring, subversion, and

The monitoring, subversion, and suppression of nonchalance.

During the 1980s, colemane. Illegally obtained protected

Illegally obtained protected patents and legal control over

Patents and legal control over a series of innovative

A series of innovative products.

Products. Taking personal credit for

Taking personal credit for these discoveries, coleman at

These discoveries, coleman at this time consolidated the

This time consolidated the jejune institute as a

Jejune institute as a limited liability corporation.

Today, the institute commands an unheard-of freedom from governmental regulation or, for

An unheard-of freedom from governmental regulation or, for that matter, any superior

Governmental regulation or, for that matter, any superior authority.

That matter, any superior authority. This might have dire

Authority. This might have dire consequences for all operating

This might have dire consequences for all operating nonchalance in this area.

>> basically, what had happened is I'd gone to the institute, and I had gone through the first

Is I'd gone to the institute, and I had gone through the first phase and was amazed by it,

And I had gone through the first phase and was amazed by it, obviously, just like you should

Phase and was amazed by it, obviously, just like you should be -- amazed and confused.

And one day, about a week later, I was on my lunch break from work, and I walked down the

I was on my lunch break from work, and I walked down the street to pick up a slice of

Work, and I walked down the street to pick up a slice of pizza.

Street to pick up a slice of pizza. And when I came back, there were

Pizza. And when I came back, there were the jejune institute posters all

And when I came back, there were the jejune institute posters all over the street where I just

The jejune institute posters all over the street where I just was and on every sign and on

Over the street where I just was and on every sign and on every window.

Was and on every sign and on every window. And so, there had obviously been

Every window. And so, there had obviously been multiple agents in the area,

And so, there had obviously been multiple agents in the area, flier-ing everything.

Multiple agents in the area, flier-ing everything. And so, I got on my skateboard.

Flier-ing everything. And so, I got on my skateboard. I started skateboarding around

And so, I got on my skateboard. I started skateboarding around and trying to find who was

I started skateboarding around and trying to find who was putting up these posters.

And trying to find who was putting up these posters. And then I did see someone, and

Putting up these posters. And then I did see someone, and I kind of approached him, and I

And then I did see someone, and I kind of approached him, and I said -- I asked him if he was

I kind of approached him, and I said -- I asked him if he was following his nonchalance.

Said -- I asked him if he was following his nonchalance. So, he knew that obviously I

Following his nonchalance. So, he knew that obviously I knew, and we started to talk.

So, he knew that obviously I knew, and we started to talk. And he told me to give him his

Knew, and we started to talk. And he told me to give him his e-mail address, and then he

And he told me to give him his e-mail address, and then he left.

E-mail address, and then he left. They scheduled me to come down

Left. They scheduled me to come down and have an appointment with

They scheduled me to come down and have an appointment with them in the offices, and I

And have an appointment with them in the offices, and I didn't know exactly what to

Them in the offices, and I didn't know exactly what to expect.

Didn't know exactly what to expect. And they told me to dress

Expect. And they told me to dress "nicely," which obviously for me

And they told me to dress "nicely," which obviously for me can mean all sorts of different

"nicely," which obviously for me can mean all sorts of different things.

Can mean all sorts of different things. They told me to show up early,

Things. They told me to show up early, and I knew what was going to

They told me to show up early, and I knew what was going to happen, that there was going to

And I knew what was going to happen, that there was going to be a protest, that I would lead

Happen, that there was going to be a protest, that I would lead it, and that it would end at the

Be a protest, that I would lead it, and that it would end at the lipo lounge.

It, and that it would end at the lipo lounge. And they gave me a couple of

Lipo lounge. And they gave me a couple of these armbands.

And they gave me a couple of these armbands. I put some on.

These armbands. I put some on. They hand me a bullhorn and told

I put some on. They hand me a bullhorn and told me, like, that they'd hoped I

They hand me a bullhorn and told me, like, that they'd hoped I memorized all the chants.

Me, like, that they'd hoped I memorized all the chants. And I'd never -- there was no

Memorized all the chants. And I'd never -- there was no chance.

And I'd never -- there was no chance. So, I said, "yes, absolutely.

Chance. So, I said, "yes, absolutely. I know every chant.

So, I said, "yes, absolutely. I know every chant. All the chants I know.

I know every chant. All the chants I know. I know every single chant."

All the chants I know. I know every single chant." and they said, "let's go."

Hello! >> hi! Nice to meet you. >> hello!

>> hi! Nice to meet you. >> hello! Hold the signs up high in the

>> hello! Hold the signs up high in the air.

Hold the signs up high in the air. I want to see them.

Air. I want to see them. There's so much energy just

I want to see them. There's so much energy just coming right through here.

There's so much energy just coming right through here. >> there's a lot of energy.

Coming right through here. >> there's a lot of energy. >> you can feel it.

>> there's a lot of energy. >> you can feel it. You can feel it.

>> you can feel it. You can feel it. Feel the energy.

You can feel it. Feel the energy. Oh, my god, it feels so good!

Feel the energy. Oh, my god, it feels so good! Get up here!

Oh, my god, it feels so good! Get up here! Get up here, you guys.

Keep rocking and keep trucking! I didn't know -- when they said, like, "oh, yeah, you'll lead

I didn't know -- when they said, like, "oh, yeah, you'll lead it," I didn't know, like, I was

Like, "oh, yeah, you'll lead it," I didn't know, like, I was physically going to be like,

It," I didn't know, like, I was physically going to be like, "oh, we're going this way now."

Physically going to be like, "oh, we're going this way now." so, I didn't know exactly where

"oh, we're going this way now." so, I didn't know exactly where we were going.

So, I didn't know exactly where we were going. There was no route assignment

We were going. There was no route assignment given to me, and I don't live in

There was no route assignment given to me, and I don't live in chinatown.

Given to me, and I don't live in chinatown. So, I don't know the best way

Chinatown. So, I don't know the best way there.

So, I don't know the best way there. So, we took the long route, and,

There. So, we took the long route, and, of course, if you were there,

So, we took the long route, and, of course, if you were there, you know what happened.

Of course, if you were there, you know what happened. I led us right past the

You know what happened. I led us right past the jejune institute, and obviously

I led us right past the jejune institute, and obviously octavio was waiting there for

Jejune institute, and obviously octavio was waiting there for us.

Octavio was waiting there for us. [ all screaming ]

Us. [ all screaming ] [ bells clanging ]

[ crowd booing ]

[ crowd cheering ]

And then they gave me a handshake, and then I never talked to any of them again

Handshake, and then I never talked to any of them again after that.

>> you know, every day I would go to this children's amusement park.

Go to this children's amusement park. It was like literally a rabbit

Park. It was like literally a rabbit hole that you could fall down

It was like literally a rabbit hole that you could fall down into that led you to these

Hole that you could fall down into that led you to these dioramas or the magic key that

Into that led you to these dioramas or the magic key that you could put into a story box,

Dioramas or the magic key that you could put into a story box, and then it suddenly would be

You could put into a story box, and then it suddenly would be telling you a fairy tale.

It was filled with wonder and filled with discovery, and I

Filled with discovery, and I wanted to know why is it

Wanted to know why is it contained inside the gates of

Contained inside the gates of this little park?

This little park? And then you go out onto the

And then you go out onto the street, and all you see is

Street, and all you see is walk/don't walk, no dogs, or

Walk/don't walk, no dogs, or this way or do not enter and all

This way or do not enter and all these rules and lines and

These rules and lines and restrictions.

And I wanted to crack it, and I wanted to open it up. And I think it was this very

Wanted to open it up. And I think it was this very subconscious influence for me

And I think it was this very subconscious influence for me that there should be this kind

Subconscious influence for me that there should be this kind of play infused into the

That there should be this kind of play infused into the architecture of our real world.

Of play infused into the architecture of our real world. People would totally willingly

Architecture of our real world. People would totally willingly accept that there was a

People would totally willingly accept that there was a coca-cola or a mcdonald's or a

Accept that there was a coca-cola or a mcdonald's or a kool cigarette billboard right

Coca-cola or a mcdonald's or a kool cigarette billboard right outside their home or their

Kool cigarette billboard right outside their home or their schools, but they would be upset

Outside their home or their schools, but they would be upset by the fact that somebody did a

Schools, but they would be upset by the fact that somebody did a piece of street art there.

By the fact that somebody did a piece of street art there. And that seemed really

Piece of street art there. And that seemed really backwards, and I was writing

And that seemed really backwards, and I was writing essays about this theory that I

Backwards, and I was writing essays about this theory that I called "threads," in which all

Essays about this theory that I called "threads," in which all kinds of media could intertwine

Called "threads," in which all kinds of media could intertwine with each other to tell us a

Kinds of media could intertwine with each other to tell us a story.

With each other to tell us a story. And that's really the beginning

Story. And that's really the beginning of what developed into

And that's really the beginning of what developed into nonchalance.

>> I just graduated school with my degree in sound arts, and I

My degree in sound arts, and I was doing work with oaklandish,

Was doing work with oaklandish, both doing sound for some of

Both doing sound for some of their events and just selling

Their events and just selling clothes to make ends meet.

Clothes to make ends meet. >> I knew of jeff.

>> I knew of jeff. I don't think that we had met in a way that either of us would

I don't think that we had met in a way that either of us would remember, but he's been very

A way that either of us would remember, but he's been very influential in kind of the

Remember, but he's been very influential in kind of the grassroots arts community in

Influential in kind of the grassroots arts community in oakland for quite some time.

So, I knew of him, but it really started -- I saw a post on craigslist.

Started -- I saw a post on craigslist. >> through someone at

Craigslist. >> through someone at oaklandish, I heard that they

>> through someone at oaklandish, I heard that they were building an automated room.

Oaklandish, I heard that they were building an automated room. I did not know what the point of

Were building an automated room. I did not know what the point of the automated room was, beyond

I did not know what the point of the automated room was, beyond create an interesting

The automated room was, beyond create an interesting environment for players or

Create an interesting environment for players or participants to engage in on

Environment for players or participants to engage in on some level.

Participants to engage in on some level. >> I mean, initially I was hired

Some level. >> I mean, initially I was hired on, contract for a small part of

>> I mean, initially I was hired on, contract for a small part of the job, and then, when jeff

On, contract for a small part of the job, and then, when jeff asked me to come on full-time as

The job, and then, when jeff asked me to come on full-time as the lead producer, I started

Asked me to come on full-time as the lead producer, I started asking a couple more questions

The lead producer, I started asking a couple more questions and being a little nervous.

Asking a couple more questions and being a little nervous. >> I guess you could say I

And being a little nervous. >> I guess you could say I learned about the project in the

>> I guess you could say I learned about the project in the way a lot of players learned

Learned about the project in the way a lot of players learned about the project, as the more I

Way a lot of players learned about the project, as the more I became involved, the more

About the project, as the more I became involved, the more questions I asked.

Became involved, the more questions I asked. And when those questions got

Questions I asked. And when those questions got answered, a story started to

And when those questions got answered, a story started to emerge.

Answered, a story started to emerge. >> words like "urban playground

Emerge. >> words like "urban playground movement" and "alternate-reality

>> words like "urban playground movement" and "alternate-reality game," and it was very opaque.

Movement" and "alternate-reality game," and it was very opaque. >> I would describe it as...

Game," and it was very opaque. >> I would describe it as... A game that you play by going

>> I would describe it as... A game that you play by going out into the city and doing

A game that you play by going out into the city and doing things.

Out into the city and doing things. And as you do that, you become

Things. And as you do that, you become part of a story that's

And as you do that, you become part of a story that's unfolding in the city, in the

Part of a story that's unfolding in the city, in the real world.

Unfolding in the city, in the real world. >> what we're doing with

Real world. >> what we're doing with nonchalance is giving people a

>> what we're doing with nonchalance is giving people a mission and giving people

Nonchalance is giving people a mission and giving people permission to become an agent

Mission and giving people permission to become an agent and to explore the space in a

Permission to become an agent and to explore the space in a different way, to go in and out

And to explore the space in a different way, to go in and out from public and private spaces

Different way, to go in and out from public and private spaces and to explore and just to

From public and private spaces and to explore and just to discover hidden things in their

And to explore and just to discover hidden things in their environment.

Discover hidden things in their environment. And to play -- ultimately, to

Environment. And to play -- ultimately, to bring spontaneity and play into

And to play -- ultimately, to bring spontaneity and play into our civic spaces.

Bring spontaneity and play into our civic spaces. Some people thought it was an

Our civic spaces. Some people thought it was an actual cult, and they were

Some people thought it was an actual cult, and they were afraid to go to the induction

Actual cult, and they were afraid to go to the induction center.

Afraid to go to the induction center. They thought, "oh, these guys

Center. They thought, "oh, these guys are like scientologists."

They thought, "oh, these guys are like scientologists." and for me the signals were out

Are like scientologists." and for me the signals were out there that this was some kind of

And for me the signals were out there that this was some kind of a game.

There that this was some kind of a game. But I definitely, in the

A game. But I definitely, in the beginning, had the intention of

But I definitely, in the beginning, had the intention of people going, "what the fuck?!

Beginning, had the intention of people going, "what the fuck?! Really?"

People going, "what the fuck?! Really?" or to give the notion that this

Really?" or to give the notion that this was totally, like, marginal

Or to give the notion that this was totally, like, marginal lunatic-fringe people putting up

Was totally, like, marginal lunatic-fringe people putting up these fliers.

Lunatic-fringe people putting up these fliers. And so, of course, it attracted

These fliers. And so, of course, it attracted some of those types of people,

And so, of course, it attracted some of those types of people, and we definitely got some

Some of those types of people, and we definitely got some voice mails that were chilling.

And we definitely got some voice mails that were chilling. >> I lived in san francisco for

Voice mails that were chilling. >> I lived in san francisco for 11 years and had to leave

>> I lived in san francisco for 11 years and had to leave because of gang-stalking

11 years and had to leave because of gang-stalking activities and being

Because of gang-stalking activities and being surveillanced and monitored and

Activities and being surveillanced and monitored and all the frequency manipulation,

Surveillanced and monitored and all the frequency manipulation, and it's a really serious thing

All the frequency manipulation, and it's a really serious thing to have done to somebody.

And it's a really serious thing to have done to somebody. And if you seriously want to go

To have done to somebody. And if you seriously want to go up against them, you need to get

And if you seriously want to go up against them, you need to get it better together than kind of

Up against them, you need to get it better together than kind of these silly ramblings that

It better together than kind of these silly ramblings that honestly don't really make any

These silly ramblings that honestly don't really make any sense.

Honestly don't really make any sense. [ tape rewinding ]

Sense. [ tape rewinding ] >> wow!

[ tape rewinding ] >> wow! Like...Like...Like, literally,

>> wow! Like...Like...Like, literally, I listen to these messages and

Like...Like...Like, literally, I listen to these messages and go cold because these people

I listen to these messages and go cold because these people were engaging with this.

Go cold because these people were engaging with this. This was their reality to them.

Were engaging with this. This was their reality to them. And for me it was this huge

This was their reality to them. And for me it was this huge fantasy.

And for me it was this huge fantasy. And so there was this blurring

Fantasy. And so there was this blurring of the lines between a real

And so there was this blurring of the lines between a real flier and real voice mails and

Of the lines between a real flier and real voice mails and then the content, which to me

Flier and real voice mails and then the content, which to me was absurd but to other people

Then the content, which to me was absurd but to other people maybe wasn't so absurd.

Was absurd but to other people maybe wasn't so absurd. And organeil's a great example

Maybe wasn't so absurd. And organeil's a great example of that.

>> I saw a way to play that was entirely new, that would bring together strangers under joyful

Entirely new, that would bring together strangers under joyful and hilarious circumstances.

I had realized that a place that had previously been mundane and sort of enemy territory -- I.E.,

Had previously been mundane and sort of enemy territory -- I.E., the financial district -- had

Sort of enemy territory -- I.E., the financial district -- had been "magicalized."

The financial district -- had been "magicalized." and so, my hope was to help a

Been "magicalized." and so, my hope was to help a few people see that something

And so, my hope was to help a few people see that something really magical and unexpected

Few people see that something really magical and unexpected could come out of this,

Really magical and unexpected could come out of this, something really beautiful and,

Could come out of this, something really beautiful and, you know, life-changing.

Something really beautiful and, you know, life-changing. I created a web page about the

You know, life-changing. I created a web page about the jejune institute and hid it

I created a web page about the jejune institute and hid it inside the organeil material.

Jejune institute and hid it inside the organeil material. I saw people start showing up

Inside the organeil material. I saw people start showing up suddenly, like, two or three of

I saw people start showing up suddenly, like, two or three of them, which doesn't happen.

Suddenly, like, two or three of them, which doesn't happen. And these people were talking

Them, which doesn't happen. And these people were talking about things that didn't make

And these people were talking about things that didn't make any sense to me, that I didn't

About things that didn't make any sense to me, that I didn't understand.

Any sense to me, that I didn't understand. They were clearly familiar with

Understand. They were clearly familiar with this idea of an "arg."

They were clearly familiar with this idea of an "arg." and them treating it like a game

This idea of an "arg." and them treating it like a game offended me.

And them treating it like a game offended me. >> he definitely was so deep

Offended me. >> he definitely was so deep into the experience that he

>> he definitely was so deep into the experience that he often spoke of it in such a way

Into the experience that he often spoke of it in such a way that a person wasn't really

Often spoke of it in such a way that a person wasn't really quite sure where they stood with

That a person wasn't really quite sure where they stood with him, as far as where he drew the

Quite sure where they stood with him, as far as where he drew the line.

Him, as far as where he drew the line. >> people would say,

Line. >> people would say, "something-something game," and

>> people would say, "something-something game," and organeil would say, "you don't

"something-something game," and organeil would say, "you don't understand.

Organeil would say, "you don't understand. This is not a game!

Understand. This is not a game! You're not taking this

This is not a game! You're not taking this seriously.

You're not taking this seriously. You clearly don't have the

Seriously. You clearly don't have the vision.

You clearly don't have the vision. This is not a game."

Vision. This is not a game." >> he insisted that there was

This is not a game." >> he insisted that there was more going on that just some

>> he insisted that there was more going on that just some sort of game.

More going on that just some sort of game. Whether or not -- I don't know

Sort of game. Whether or not -- I don't know what he suspected, but I think

Whether or not -- I don't know what he suspected, but I think we just disagreed on that point.

What he suspected, but I think we just disagreed on that point. >> he thought that maybe this

We just disagreed on that point. >> he thought that maybe this was going to change the world or

>> he thought that maybe this was going to change the world or be an opportunity for people to

Was going to change the world or be an opportunity for people to really come together as an

Be an opportunity for people to really come together as an organization that could uplift

Really come together as an organization that could uplift the planet in some way.

Organization that could uplift the planet in some way. And, you know, I don't think

The planet in some way. And, you know, I don't think there's any limits on the amount

And, you know, I don't think there's any limits on the amount of things you could do with this

There's any limits on the amount of things you could do with this kind of artwork.

Of things you could do with this kind of artwork. But it was certainly beyond our

Kind of artwork. But it was certainly beyond our scope.

But it was certainly beyond our scope. There was a certain point when I

Scope. There was a certain point when I was surprised to receive an

There was a certain point when I was surprised to receive an e-mail from him saying, "I am no

Was surprised to receive an e-mail from him saying, "I am no longer gonna have anything to do

E-mail from him saying, "I am no longer gonna have anything to do with this and please erase any

Longer gonna have anything to do with this and please erase any evidence of my participation

With this and please erase any evidence of my participation with this.

Evidence of my participation with this. And in my heart and mind, this

With this. And in my heart and mind, this is already done."

And in my heart and mind, this is already done." >> I was actually injured on a

Is already done." >> I was actually injured on a couple of jejune errands, twice.

>> I was actually injured on a couple of jejune errands, twice. Unfortunately, the second time

Couple of jejune errands, twice. Unfortunately, the second time was the last time I was outside.

Unfortunately, the second time was the last time I was outside. That was in July of 2009.

Was the last time I was outside. That was in July of 2009. And I was so badly hurt that it

That was in July of 2009. And I was so badly hurt that it wasn't safe to transport me.

And I was so badly hurt that it wasn't safe to transport me. Jiggling would cause muscles in

Wasn't safe to transport me. Jiggling would cause muscles in my abdomen to tear.

Jiggling would cause muscles in my abdomen to tear. >> I had never heard of anything

My abdomen to tear. >> I had never heard of anything like that happening to any one

>> I had never heard of anything like that happening to any one of our players and knew of no

Like that happening to any one of our players and knew of no situation or event in which

Of our players and knew of no situation or event in which anything accidental had happened

Situation or event in which anything accidental had happened at all.

Anything accidental had happened at all. And I kind of came to the

At all. And I kind of came to the conclusion this was all

And I kind of came to the conclusion this was all something that he had kind of

Conclusion this was all something that he had kind of concocted in his mind.

Something that he had kind of concocted in his mind. >> I had no assistance

Concocted in his mind. >> I had no assistance whatsoever.

>> I had no assistance whatsoever. I was kind of trapped here in my

Whatsoever. I was kind of trapped here in my house.

I was kind of trapped here in my house. And I began to become really

House. And I began to become really concerned that, uh...

And I began to become really concerned that, uh... [ chuckles ]

Concerned that, uh... [ chuckles ] well, to be quite frank and

[ chuckles ] well, to be quite frank and terribly honest, in those

Well, to be quite frank and terribly honest, in those circumstances, I was somewhat

Terribly honest, in those circumstances, I was somewhat paranoid.

Circumstances, I was somewhat paranoid. And I felt that with some

Paranoid. And I felt that with some reason that my interaction with

And I felt that with some reason that my interaction with the jejune institute was

Reason that my interaction with the jejune institute was possibly spiritually harmful in

The jejune institute was possibly spiritually harmful in some sense.

Possibly spiritually harmful in some sense. At first, you go in, and you're

Some sense. At first, you go in, and you're kind of starry-eyed, and you

At first, you go in, and you're kind of starry-eyed, and you have the experience.

Kind of starry-eyed, and you have the experience. But once you start understanding

Have the experience. But once you start understanding a little bit more of the "plot,"

But once you start understanding a little bit more of the "plot," you realize that the

A little bit more of the "plot," you realize that the jejune institute is the bad

You realize that the jejune institute is the bad guys.

Jejune institute is the bad guys. And so, you've given your

Guys. And so, you've given your personal information to the bad

And so, you've given your personal information to the bad guys!

Personal information to the bad guys! And not knowing who's really

Guys! And not knowing who's really behind it or what really their

And not knowing who's really behind it or what really their goals are, you know?

Behind it or what really their goals are, you know? From the sinister nature of the

Goals are, you know? From the sinister nature of the jejune institute, it is not

From the sinister nature of the jejune institute, it is not clear that you're involved with

Jejune institute, it is not clear that you're involved with something as beautiful as

Clear that you're involved with something as beautiful as elsewhere.

Something as beautiful as elsewhere. And so I wanted to distance

Elsewhere. And so I wanted to distance myself from it at that point.

[ radio static crackles ] >> commander 14 calling eva lucien.

>> commander 14 calling eva lucien. Evalyn, we need you to come in.

Eva lucien. Evalyn, we need you to come in. Repeat -- we need you to come

Evalyn, we need you to come in. Repeat -- we need you to come in.

Repeat -- we need you to come in. We have a chance of decoding

In. We have a chance of decoding the encryption of the first six

We have a chance of decoding the encryption of the first six phases of the algorithm.

The encryption of the first six phases of the algorithm. But don't go to the safe house.

Phases of the algorithm. But don't go to the safe house. It's been compromised.

But don't go to the safe house. It's been compromised. Coleman's got his goons there

It's been compromised. Coleman's got his goons there now.

Coleman's got his goons there now. Use your key and follow the

Now. Use your key and follow the signs.

Use your key and follow the signs. We need you to come in.

Signs. We need you to come in. >> you are listening to

We need you to come in. >> you are listening to radio nonchalance -- dispatches

>> you are listening to radio nonchalance -- dispatches from elsewhere.

Radio nonchalance -- dispatches from elsewhere. Support for this program has

From elsewhere. Support for this program has been provided by the

Support for this program has been provided by the elsewhere public works agency.

Been provided by the elsewhere public works agency. Now back to our program.

Elsewhere public works agency. Now back to our program. >> Monday, I got to work, and I

Now back to our program. >> Monday, I got to work, and I had an e-mail sent to an e-mail

>> Monday, I got to work, and I had an e-mail sent to an e-mail address I don't use a whole lot.

Had an e-mail sent to an e-mail address I don't use a whole lot. And it was from the

Address I don't use a whole lot. And it was from the elsewhere public works agency

And it was from the elsewhere public works agency asking me to be at a certain

Elsewhere public works agency asking me to be at a certain intersection by the pay

Asking me to be at a certain intersection by the pay phones -- it was 24th and

Intersection by the pay phones -- it was 24th and mission -- at noon.

Phones -- it was 24th and mission -- at noon. So, eventually, I got a call on

Mission -- at noon. So, eventually, I got a call on my cellphone from commander 14,

So, eventually, I got a call on my cellphone from commander 14, checking and saying that the

My cellphone from commander 14, checking and saying that the jejune institute was moving in

Checking and saying that the jejune institute was moving in or something about the

Jejune institute was moving in or something about the green energy arcans.

Or something about the green energy arcans. I don't remember what he said.

Green energy arcans. I don't remember what he said. [ laughs ]

I don't remember what he said. [ laughs ] >> the closure of a temporal

[ laughs ] >> the closure of a temporal vacuole is imminent.

>> the closure of a temporal vacuole is imminent. Repeat -- imminent.

Vacuole is imminent. Repeat -- imminent. Without physical jamming to

Repeat -- imminent. Without physical jamming to offset transneural

Without physical jamming to offset transneural interference, a negative

Offset transneural interference, a negative group-cascade sequence could be

Interference, a negative group-cascade sequence could be initiated.

Group-cascade sequence could be initiated. Do you see 24th street?

Initiated. Do you see 24th street? >> yeah.

Do you see 24th street? >> yeah. >> cross mission and continue

>> yeah. >> cross mission and continue down 24th.

>> cross mission and continue down 24th. I will be making contact at

Down 24th. I will be making contact at that location in five minutes'

I will be making contact at that location in five minutes' time.

That location in five minutes' time. When I say, "ornithopter," you

Time. When I say, "ornithopter," you say, "jump suit."

When I say, "ornithopter," you say, "jump suit." ornithopter.

Say, "jump suit." ornithopter. >> jump suit.

Ornithopter. >> jump suit. >> ornithopter.

>> jump suit. >> ornithopter. >> jump suit.

>> ornithopter. >> jump suit. >> okay. Now go. Hurry!

>> jump suit. >> okay. Now go. Hurry! [ telephone clicks ]

[ telephone rings ] >> ornithopter. >> jump suit.

>> ornithopter. >> jump suit. >> ornithopter.

>> jump suit. >> ornithopter. >> jump suit.

>> ornithopter. >> jump suit. >> now we can get this

>> jump suit. >> now we can get this transaction rolling.

>> now we can get this transaction rolling. The time is nigh.

Transaction rolling. The time is nigh. Now listen quickly.

The time is nigh. Now listen quickly. Dance.

Now listen quickly. Dance. You heard me. Dance.

Dance. You heard me. Dance. I say dance!

You heard me. Dance. I say dance! >> dance? Okay.

I say dance! >> dance? Okay. >> it is imperative that you now

>> dance? Okay. >> it is imperative that you now dance.

>> it is imperative that you now dance. I hope you dance.

Dance. I hope you dance. This interacting cannot happen

I hope you dance. This interacting cannot happen without vigorous physical

This interacting cannot happen without vigorous physical jamming.

Without vigorous physical jamming. Now get off this phone and

Jamming. Now get off this phone and dance, motherfucker!

Now get off this phone and dance, motherfucker! >> we needed to stop the energy

Dance, motherfucker! >> we needed to stop the energy attack by "rigorous physical

>> we needed to stop the energy attack by "rigorous physical jamming," which is what we did.

Attack by "rigorous physical jamming," which is what we did. So, I started dancing, and then

Jamming," which is what we did. So, I started dancing, and then I started hearing music.

So, I started dancing, and then I started hearing music. And this guy showed up with a

I started hearing music. And this guy showed up with a boom box.

And this guy showed up with a boom box. And he started dancing with me.

Boom box. And he started dancing with me. And then a sasquatch showed up,

And he started dancing with me. And then a sasquatch showed up, and started dancing with us.

And then a sasquatch showed up, and started dancing with us. [ up-tempo dance music plays ]

>> ♪ freestyle kickin' in the house tonight ♪ ♪ move your body

In the house tonight ♪ ♪ move your body from left to right ♪

♪ move your body from left to right ♪ ♪ to all you freaks,

From left to right ♪ ♪ to all you freaks, don't stop the rock ♪

♪ to all you freaks, don't stop the rock ♪ ♪ freestyle kickin'

Don't stop the rock ♪ ♪ freestyle kickin' in the house tonight ♪

♪ freestyle kickin' in the house tonight ♪ ♪ move your body

In the house tonight ♪ ♪ move your body from left to right ♪

♪ move your body from left to right ♪ ♪ to all you freaks,

From left to right ♪ ♪ to all you freaks, don't stop the rock ♪

♪ to all you freaks, don't stop the rock ♪ >> and there was a moment that

Don't stop the rock ♪ >> and there was a moment that the song ended, and we heard

>> and there was a moment that the song ended, and we heard what sounded like angels

The song ended, and we heard what sounded like angels singing, and the sasquatch gave

What sounded like angels singing, and the sasquatch gave me the transcript, which that's

Singing, and the sasquatch gave me the transcript, which that's a very weird thing to say.

Me the transcript, which that's a very weird thing to say. But that happened.

A very weird thing to say. But that happened. [ laughs ]

♪ something's got a hold on me ♪ >> so, with the map there was a

On me ♪ >> so, with the map there was a cd of cult music that had a lot

>> so, with the map there was a cd of cult music that had a lot of weird stuff from, like,

Cd of cult music that had a lot of weird stuff from, like, jonestown and this group called

Of weird stuff from, like, jonestown and this group called yahawa, from the '70s and on.

Jonestown and this group called yahawa, from the '70s and on. But it also had a hidden track

Yahawa, from the '70s and on. But it also had a hidden track on it, which had a little girl

But it also had a hidden track on it, which had a little girl named eva and her mother taking

On it, which had a little girl named eva and her mother taking a walk toward the

Named eva and her mother taking a walk toward the mission district.

>> ♪ something's >> ♪ something's >> ♪ got a hold

>> ♪ something's >> ♪ got a hold >> ♪ got a hold

>> ♪ got a hold >> ♪ got a hold >> ♪ on me

>> ♪ got a hold >> ♪ on me >> this is archival binaural

>> ♪ on me >> this is archival binaural field recording, designation

>> this is archival binaural field recording, designation 16-62-tc13.

Field recording, designation 16-62-tc13. Tape was engaged at

16-62-tc13. Tape was engaged at chula lane and abbey street

Tape was engaged at chula lane and abbey street facing southwest.

Chula lane and abbey street facing southwest. Headphones or other stereo

Facing southwest. Headphones or other stereo personal-listening device should

Headphones or other stereo personal-listening device should be used during playback.

>> hi, eva! >> hi, mom! >> [ laughs ]

>> hi, mom! >> [ laughs ] [ footsteps approaching ]

>> [ laughs ] [ footsteps approaching ] well, good day to you, eva, my

[ footsteps approaching ] well, good day to you, eva, my dear.

Well, good day to you, eva, my dear. >> and a pleasant afternoon to

Dear. >> and a pleasant afternoon to you, madam.

>> and a pleasant afternoon to you, madam. >> how was school today?

You, madam. >> how was school today? >> tedious, but I lost another

>> how was school today? >> tedious, but I lost another tooth at recess.

>> tedious, but I lost another tooth at recess. >> really?

Tooth at recess. >> really? Shall we save it for the

>> really? Shall we save it for the tooth fairy?

Shall we save it for the tooth fairy? >> no! He's scary!

Tooth fairy? >> no! He's scary! >> you've seen the tooth fairy?

>> no! He's scary! >> you've seen the tooth fairy? >> of course.

>> you've seen the tooth fairy? >> of course. >> and he's a man?

>> of course. >> and he's a man? >> yes.

>> and he's a man? >> yes. >> so, do you have time for a

>> yes. >> so, do you have time for a little walkabout today?

>> so, do you have time for a little walkabout today? >> uh-huh.

Little walkabout today? >> uh-huh. >> where shall we go, then?

>> uh-huh. >> where shall we go, then? >> elsewhere!

>> where shall we go, then? >> elsewhere! >> again?

>> elsewhere! >> again? >> yes.

>> again? >> yes. >> okay.

>> yes. >> okay. >> let's start walking northeast

>> okay. >> let's start walking northeast on chula lane.

>> let's start walking northeast on chula lane. >> okay.

On chula lane. >> okay. >> you can see the old cemetery

>> okay. >> you can see the old cemetery on our left.

>> you can see the old cemetery on our left. Thousands of indians who died of

On our left. Thousands of indians who died of spanish diseases were buried

Thousands of indians who died of spanish diseases were buried right here.

Spanish diseases were buried right here. They're underneath us right now.

Right here. They're underneath us right now. >> oh.

They're underneath us right now. >> oh. >> sometimes, if you listen, you

>> oh. >> sometimes, if you listen, you can hear them.

>> sometimes, if you listen, you can hear them. >> oh.

Can hear them. >> oh. >> now go left, and we walk

>> oh. >> now go left, and we walk along dolores.

>> now go left, and we walk along dolores. >> [ chuckles ]

Along dolores. >> [ chuckles ] >> you can see the mission

>> [ chuckles ] >> you can see the mission san francisco de asis, founded

>> you can see the mission san francisco de asis, founded on October 9, 1776, by

San francisco de asis, founded on October 9, 1776, by father francisco paulo.

On October 9, 1776, by father francisco paulo. That's really the beginning of

Father francisco paulo. That's really the beginning of the whole city.

That's really the beginning of the whole city. Let's cross over to the median.

The whole city. Let's cross over to the median. >> oh, you mean by the palm

Let's cross over to the median. >> oh, you mean by the palm trees?

>> oh, you mean by the palm trees? >> yeah.

Trees? >> yeah. >> okay.

>> yeah. >> okay. >> I want to show you something.

>> okay. >> I want to show you something. We used to feed the fairies.

>> I want to show you something. We used to feed the fairies. >> well, what would you feed

We used to feed the fairies. >> well, what would you feed them?

>> well, what would you feed them? >> berries, of course.

Them? >> berries, of course. >> [ laughs ]

>> berries, of course. >> [ laughs ] and are the fairies still there?

>> [ laughs ] and are the fairies still there? >> they come and go as they

And are the fairies still there? >> they come and go as they please, elsewhere and that.

>> they come and go as they please, elsewhere and that. I always get headaches when I

Please, elsewhere and that. I always get headaches when I walk by these green boxes.

I always get headaches when I walk by these green boxes. >> I know. Me too.

Walk by these green boxes. >> I know. Me too. Let's walk faster.

>> I know. Me too. Let's walk faster. >> and here we are at

Let's walk faster. >> and here we are at commander 14's house.

>> and here we are at commander 14's house. This is where he does the radio

Commander 14's house. This is where he does the radio show with kai epsilon.

This is where he does the radio show with kai epsilon. Dad helps them out with the

Show with kai epsilon. Dad helps them out with the transmitter.

Dad helps them out with the transmitter. And right next door is our

Transmitter. And right next door is our house.

And right next door is our house. >> mm-hmm.

House. >> mm-hmm. >> let's play hopscotch.

>> mm-hmm. >> let's play hopscotch. >> that is a very peculiar

>> let's play hopscotch. >> that is a very peculiar board.

>> that is a very peculiar board. >> this is a game of

Board. >> this is a game of interdimensional hopscotch.

>> this is a game of interdimensional hopscotch. It helps you practice how to get

Interdimensional hopscotch. It helps you practice how to get to elsewhere.

It helps you practice how to get to elsewhere. >> let's turn right on albion so

To elsewhere. >> let's turn right on albion so we can say hi to mr. Books.

>> let's turn right on albion so we can say hi to mr. Books. And here we are, our second

We can say hi to mr. Books. And here we are, our second home, adobe books.

And here we are, our second home, adobe books. After you.

Home, adobe books. After you. [ typewriter clacking ]

After you. [ typewriter clacking ] >> you need to look on the shelf

[ typewriter clacking ] >> you need to look on the shelf for the book on interdimensional

>> you need to look on the shelf for the book on interdimensional hopscotch.

For the book on interdimensional hopscotch. It will tell you what you need

Hopscotch. It will tell you what you need to do.

It will tell you what you need to do. See you in elsewhere.

To do. See you in elsewhere. Bye!

See you in elsewhere. Bye! [ clacking continues ]

>> my name is kelvin williams, and I guess I came into adobe books.

And I guess I came into adobe books. I had met the owner before.

Adobe books. I had met the owner before. You know, I'm a book person, a

I had met the owner before. You know, I'm a book person, a librarian.

You know, I'm a book person, a librarian. We all kind of move in the same

Librarian. We all kind of move in the same circles.

We all kind of move in the same circles. So, I was interested that this

Circles. So, I was interested that this book on interdimensional

So, I was interested that this book on interdimensional hopscotch should be there, of

Book on interdimensional hopscotch should be there, of all places.

I struck up a conversation with the owner, who happened to be there, and I just asked her.

The owner, who happened to be there, and I just asked her. "this is kind of odd that you

There, and I just asked her. "this is kind of odd that you have this here.

"this is kind of odd that you have this here. I didn't know that you had these

Have this here. I didn't know that you had these kind of esoteric interests.

I didn't know that you had these kind of esoteric interests. As one acquaintance to another,

Kind of esoteric interests. As one acquaintance to another, do you have any materials that

As one acquaintance to another, do you have any materials that might be connected to this?

Do you have any materials that might be connected to this? Do you have any...

Might be connected to this? Do you have any... Can you point me any further?"

Do you have any... Can you point me any further?" and she said, "well, kelvin,

Can you point me any further?" and she said, "well, kelvin, I've got a box of materials that

And she said, "well, kelvin, I've got a box of materials that would probably interest you in

I've got a box of materials that would probably interest you in the back of the store.

Would probably interest you in the back of the store. Some ephemera -- handbills,

The back of the store. Some ephemera -- handbills, posters, and so on."

Some ephemera -- handbills, posters, and so on." but down in the bottom of the

Posters, and so on." but down in the bottom of the box was this book, which turned

But down in the bottom of the box was this book, which turned out to be the diary of

Box was this book, which turned out to be the diary of eva lucien, who was, it seemed

Out to be the diary of eva lucien, who was, it seemed to me, a really extraordinary

Eva lucien, who was, it seemed to me, a really extraordinary person.

To me, a really extraordinary person. You know, she embodied a kind of

Person. You know, she embodied a kind of transcendence and ephemerality

You know, she embodied a kind of transcendence and ephemerality of youth at the same time, and

Transcendence and ephemerality of youth at the same time, and that was really what caught me

Of youth at the same time, and that was really what caught me about her.

That was really what caught me about her. I had noticed in eva's diaries,

About her. I had noticed in eva's diaries, there was references to the

I had noticed in eva's diaries, there was references to the s.F. Savants, which was a b-boy

There was references to the s.F. Savants, which was a b-boy crew that I had maybe heard of

S.F. Savants, which was a b-boy crew that I had maybe heard of years and years ago.

Crew that I had maybe heard of years and years ago. But it turns out they still had

Years and years ago. But it turns out they still had a myspace page.

But it turns out they still had a myspace page. These people are relatively

A myspace page. These people are relatively accessible, and I was fortunate

These people are relatively accessible, and I was fortunate enough to get in touch with

Accessible, and I was fortunate enough to get in touch with delsqui, who suggested -- he

Enough to get in touch with delsqui, who suggested -- he didn't want to talk about it.

Delsqui, who suggested -- he didn't want to talk about it. But he suggested I get in touch

Didn't want to talk about it. But he suggested I get in touch with beth and gave me an e-mail

But he suggested I get in touch with beth and gave me an e-mail address.

With beth and gave me an e-mail address. And so, she and I corresponded

Address. And so, she and I corresponded by e-mail a little bit.

And so, she and I corresponded by e-mail a little bit. I think she could see that I

By e-mail a little bit. I think she could see that I understand eva as someone more

I think she could see that I understand eva as someone more than just another teenager who

Understand eva as someone more than just another teenager who disappears or another hip figure

Than just another teenager who disappears or another hip figure of the san francisco scene of a

Disappears or another hip figure of the san francisco scene of a certain moment, but, rather, as

Of the san francisco scene of a certain moment, but, rather, as someone who had something more

Certain moment, but, rather, as someone who had something more to say.

Someone who had something more to say. And so, I eventually wore her

To say. And so, I eventually wore her down.

And so, I eventually wore her down. I kept asking her, "do you have

Down. I kept asking her, "do you have documents?

I kept asking her, "do you have documents? Do you have information?

Documents? Do you have information? Do you have more about this

Do you have information? Do you have more about this person?"

Do you have more about this person?" and it turns out she had.

>> eva? >> yeah?

>> [ gasps ] what are you... Your -- your hair!

What are you... Your -- your hair! Oh, no!

Your -- your hair! Oh, no! No-o, you -- oh, my god!

Oh, no! No-o, you -- oh, my god! >> it's okay.

No-o, you -- oh, my god! >> it's okay. >> are you sure?

>> it's okay. >> are you sure? >> yeah, it's time to go.

>> are you sure? >> yeah, it's time to go. I feel like I'm losing my mind.

>> yeah, it's time to go. I feel like I'm losing my mind. Look at these fucking pages.

I feel like I'm losing my mind. Look at these fucking pages. >> just read one.

Look at these fucking pages. >> just read one. >> I don't know.

>> just read one. >> I don't know. It freaks me out to reflect on

>> I don't know. It freaks me out to reflect on it.

It freaks me out to reflect on it. Makes me feel like I sound

It. Makes me feel like I sound crazy.

Makes me feel like I sound crazy. >> no. No, no.

Crazy. >> no. No, no. >> you think I'm going crazy?

>> no. No, no. >> you think I'm going crazy? >> no.

>> you think I'm going crazy? >> no. >> "up late, when I should be

>> no. >> "up late, when I should be sleeping, consumed with the

>> "up late, when I should be sleeping, consumed with the thought that the world is not as

Sleeping, consumed with the thought that the world is not as it should be.

Thought that the world is not as it should be. When I was younger, I believed

It should be. When I was younger, I believed in a goodness, a kindness.

When I was younger, I believed in a goodness, a kindness. Yeah, it sounds sappy, but,

In a goodness, a kindness. Yeah, it sounds sappy, but, really, I feel like things were

Yeah, it sounds sappy, but, really, I feel like things were a certain way, and now there's a

Really, I feel like things were a certain way, and now there's a deep sadness of pain.

A certain way, and now there's a deep sadness of pain. Was it always there, and I

Deep sadness of pain. Was it always there, and I couldn't access it?

Was it always there, and I couldn't access it? Is this just a symptom of

Couldn't access it? Is this just a symptom of growing older?

Is this just a symptom of growing older? One becomes more aware of hurt?

Growing older? One becomes more aware of hurt? Were my parents simply that good

One becomes more aware of hurt? Were my parents simply that good at sheltering me?

Were my parents simply that good at sheltering me? Dad worked hard to raise me but

At sheltering me? Dad worked hard to raise me but how he saw fit.

Dad worked hard to raise me but how he saw fit. I admired him sometimes, but it

How he saw fit. I admired him sometimes, but it pissed me off, too.

I admired him sometimes, but it pissed me off, too. He told me the world was safe,

Pissed me off, too. He told me the world was safe, or at least I thought I had a

He told me the world was safe, or at least I thought I had a safe place in it.

Or at least I thought I had a safe place in it. It's difficult to compute when

Safe place in it. It's difficult to compute when people just vanish.

It's difficult to compute when people just vanish. How am I to maintain faith and

People just vanish. How am I to maintain faith and expectations when my mother's

How am I to maintain faith and expectations when my mother's fucking gone?"

Expectations when my mother's fucking gone?" >> I think eva in herself

Fucking gone?" >> I think eva in herself embodied a certain way of being

>> I think eva in herself embodied a certain way of being that suggested the potential for

Embodied a certain way of being that suggested the potential for the world to be transformed.

That suggested the potential for the world to be transformed. She was flirting on the edge of

The world to be transformed. She was flirting on the edge of some insights into how reality

She was flirting on the edge of some insights into how reality works.

Some insights into how reality works. You know, she had got it, and

Works. You know, she had got it, and that became either an

You know, she had got it, and that became either an inspiration or a threat,

That became either an inspiration or a threat, depending on how you understand

Inspiration or a threat, depending on how you understand it, to the institute and the

Depending on how you understand it, to the institute and the agency.

It, to the institute and the agency. >> wow. How many are there?

Agency. >> wow. How many are there? >> enough.

>> wow. How many are there? >> enough. [ laughter ]

>> enough. [ laughter ] >> you guys want to take them

[ laughter ] >> you guys want to take them tonight?

>> you guys want to take them tonight? >> I was gonna save them.

Tonight? >> I was gonna save them. >> save them for what?

>> I was gonna save them. >> save them for what? >> the weekend?

>> save them for what? >> the weekend? >> why?

>> the weekend? >> why? >> you want to drop out?

>> why? >> you want to drop out? You don't have school tomorrow.

>> you want to drop out? You don't have school tomorrow. >> hey, what y'all talking about

You don't have school tomorrow. >> hey, what y'all talking about over here?

>> hey, what y'all talking about over here? >> nothing.

Over here? >> nothing. >> oh, y'all tripping again?

>> nothing. >> oh, y'all tripping again? >> no!

>> oh, y'all tripping again? >> no! >> eva, aren't you on probation?

>> no! >> eva, aren't you on probation? >> it's not like we're fucking

>> eva, aren't you on probation? >> it's not like we're fucking doing acid.

>> it's not like we're fucking doing acid. It's not even really fair.

Doing acid. It's not even really fair. >> what shit?

It's not even really fair. >> what shit? >> nothing.

>> what shit? >> nothing. [ up-tempo dance music plays ]

>> nothing. [ up-tempo dance music plays ] >> ♪ freestyle kickin'

[ up-tempo dance music plays ] >> ♪ freestyle kickin' in the house tonight ♪

>> ♪ freestyle kickin' in the house tonight ♪ ♪ move your body

In the house tonight ♪ ♪ move your body from left to right ♪

♪ move your body from left to right ♪ ♪ to all you freaks,

From left to right ♪ ♪ to all you freaks, don't stop the rock ♪

♪ to all you freaks, don't stop the rock ♪ >> whoo!

Don't stop the rock ♪ >> whoo! >> yes!

>> whoo! >> yes! >> ♪ freestyle kickin'

>> yes! >> ♪ freestyle kickin' in the house tonight ♪

>> ♪ freestyle kickin' in the house tonight ♪ ♪ move your body

In the house tonight ♪ ♪ move your body from left to right ♪

♪ move your body from left to right ♪ ♪ to all you freaks,

From left to right ♪ ♪ to all you freaks, don't stop the rock ♪

♪ to all you freaks, don't stop the rock ♪ >> ♪ yeah

Don't stop the rock ♪ >> ♪ yeah >> chloe...Get it together.

>> ♪ yeah >> chloe...Get it together. >> [ singing continues ]

>> chloe...Get it together. >> [ singing continues ] >> chloe, how many beers...

>> [ singing continues ] >> chloe, how many beers... >> ♪ I feel emotion

>> chloe, how many beers... >> ♪ I feel emotion >> chloe, you're drunk.

>> ♪ I feel emotion >> chloe, you're drunk. I like it.

>> chloe, you're drunk. I like it. >> ♪ whaa

I like it. >> ♪ whaa >> eva, you okay?

>> ♪ whaa >> eva, you okay? What's going on, girl?

>> eva, you okay? What's going on, girl? >> fuckin' cops!

What's going on, girl? >> fuckin' cops! Dude, the cops are going!

>> fuckin' cops! Dude, the cops are going! Shit!

Dude, the cops are going! Shit! >> let's go!

Shit! >> let's go! Eva, come on!

>> let's go! Eva, come on! [ sirens wailing ]

Eva, come on! [ sirens wailing ] eva!

[ sirens wailing ] eva! >> you know, maybe there was

Eva! >> you know, maybe there was something more to the games of

>> you know, maybe there was something more to the games of nonchalance besides simply a fun

Something more to the games of nonchalance besides simply a fun scavenger hunt.

Nonchalance besides simply a fun scavenger hunt. Rather, than maybe whoever was

Scavenger hunt. Rather, than maybe whoever was behind it was actually trying to

Rather, than maybe whoever was behind it was actually trying to commemorate eva in some way or

Behind it was actually trying to commemorate eva in some way or trying to share who she was with

Commemorate eva in some way or trying to share who she was with people in san francisco and

Trying to share who she was with people in san francisco and around the world, a kind of, I

People in san francisco and around the world, a kind of, I don't know, maybe the whole

Around the world, a kind of, I don't know, maybe the whole project, maybe the whole

Don't know, maybe the whole project, maybe the whole experience was a kind of elegy

Project, maybe the whole experience was a kind of elegy to eva and what she represented.

Experience was a kind of elegy to eva and what she represented. You know, that's where the

To eva and what she represented. You know, that's where the "reconstructing eva" project

You know, that's where the "reconstructing eva" project came out of, because I wanted to

"reconstructing eva" project came out of, because I wanted to be able to say, "well, look.

Came out of, because I wanted to be able to say, "well, look. There's these people playing

Be able to say, "well, look. There's these people playing these games, and there's a whole

There's these people playing these games, and there's a whole wealth of information about what

These games, and there's a whole wealth of information about what they really mean."

Wealth of information about what they really mean." at the time, I was seeing a man

They really mean." at the time, I was seeing a man who was a police officer, and he

At the time, I was seeing a man who was a police officer, and he quickly learned about my

Who was a police officer, and he quickly learned about my obsession with this particular

Quickly learned about my obsession with this particular topic.

Obsession with this particular topic. And I twisted his arm a little

Topic. And I twisted his arm a little bit, promised some favors if he

And I twisted his arm a little bit, promised some favors if he would help out and see if there

Bit, promised some favors if he would help out and see if there was anything in the police

Would help out and see if there was anything in the police department -- archives, storage

Was anything in the police department -- archives, storage rooms, whatever -- that might

Department -- archives, storage rooms, whatever -- that might shed light on this.

>> man, you were the last oneo see eva, and we need to know exactly what happened that day.

On Sunday, the 16th, when and where did you first see eva? >> we always meet at the gard.

Where did you first see eva? >> we always meet at the gard. >> and that's the place you

>> we always meet at the gard. >> and that's the place you mentioned before, with the

>> and that's the place you mentioned before, with the bench and the parking meter.

Mentioned before, with the bench and the parking meter. Is this the spot where you said

Bench and the parking meter. Is this the spot where you said neil, a local vagrant, was

Is this the spot where you said neil, a local vagrant, was seen?

Neil, a local vagrant, was seen? >> uh, yeah.

Seen? >> uh, yeah. >> so, did he ever talk to yo?

>> uh, yeah. >> so, did he ever talk to yo? >> no, but he talked to eva.

>> so, did he ever talk to yo? >> no, but he talked to eva. >> and what did they say to eh

>> no, but he talked to eva. >> and what did they say to eh other?

>> and what did they say to eh other? >> I have no idea.

Other? >> I have no idea. >> where did you see them

>> I have no idea. >> where did you see them talking?

>> where did you see them talking? >> up at neil's little spot.

Talking? >> up at neil's little spot. We call it the "neil estate."

>> up at neil's little spot. We call it the "neil estate." >> did you see neil there the

We call it the "neil estate." >> did you see neil there the night that eva disappeared?

>> did you see neil there the night that eva disappeared? >> no, I didn't.

Night that eva disappeared? >> no, I didn't. >> did anyone else?

>> no, I didn't. >> did anyone else? >> well, I know that the othes

>> did anyone else? >> well, I know that the othes might have seen him that night.

>> well, I know that the othes might have seen him that night. "play to" did, I think.

Might have seen him that night. "play to" did, I think. >> play to it is, then?

"play to" did, I think. >> play to it is, then? >> yeah.

>> play to it is, then? >> yeah. >> what else can you tell me

>> yeah. >> what else can you tell me about this neil character?

>> what else can you tell me about this neil character? Did you see him on the evening

About this neil character? Did you see him on the evening in question?

Did you see him on the evening in question? >> yeah.

In question? >> yeah. >> so, I seem to have heard tt

>> yeah. >> so, I seem to have heard tt you had some interaction with

>> so, I seem to have heard tt you had some interaction with him on that night yourself.

You had some interaction with him on that night yourself. Am I right about that?

Him on that night yourself. Am I right about that? >> no, I never talked to him.

Am I right about that? >> no, I never talked to him. >> tell me more about that

>> no, I never talked to him. >> tell me more about that night.

>> tell me more about that night. Did you at any point in the

Night. Did you at any point in the evening see eva talk to neil?

Did you at any point in the evening see eva talk to neil? >> I don't think so.

Evening see eva talk to neil? >> I don't think so. >> but you did see him that

>> I don't think so. >> but you did see him that night.

>> but you did see him that night. >> yeah, man.

Night. >> yeah, man. He was hanging out around the

>> yeah, man. He was hanging out around the stone wall.

He was hanging out around the stone wall. We seen the dude dipping around

Stone wall. We seen the dude dipping around that wall all the time.

We seen the dude dipping around that wall all the time. >> dipping around?

That wall all the time. >> dipping around? >> yeah, you know, looking do,

>> dipping around? >> yeah, you know, looking do, poking around the crevices

>> yeah, you know, looking do, poking around the crevices between the rocks, looking back

Poking around the crevices between the rocks, looking back up again.

Between the rocks, looking back up again. >> doing what?

Up again. >> doing what? >> doing what he does.

>> doing what? >> doing what he does. Being a weirdo.

>> doing what he does. Being a weirdo. >> so, it was just yourself,

Being a weirdo. >> so, it was just yourself, eva, and chloe around that

>> so, it was just yourself, eva, and chloe around that point.

Eva, and chloe around that point. Is anybody else there?

Point. Is anybody else there? No one else, like, for

Is anybody else there? No one else, like, for instance, this neil character?

No one else, like, for instance, this neil character? >> no.

Instance, this neil character? >> no. >> so, what happened next?

>> no. >> so, what happened next? >> the police were coming up e

>> so, what happened next? >> the police were coming up e hill, and we ran.

>> the police were coming up e hill, and we ran. But -- but when I went and

Hill, and we ran. But -- but when I went and hid -- when I got there, I was

But -- but when I went and hid -- when I got there, I was hiding, and she was gone.

Hid -- when I got there, I was hiding, and she was gone. Chloe just kept running.

Hiding, and she was gone. Chloe just kept running. She just kept running.

Chloe just kept running. She just kept running. And I thought she went home,

She just kept running. And I thought she went home, and I was, like, hiding and

And I thought she went home, and I was, like, hiding and whispering, "eva, eva."

And I was, like, hiding and whispering, "eva, eva." she didn't answer.

Whispering, "eva, eva." she didn't answer. I was there forever, but then I

She didn't answer. I was there forever, but then I just figured she went home.

I was there forever, but then I just figured she went home. So, eventually, I went home,

Just figured she went home. So, eventually, I went home, too.

So, eventually, I went home, too. >> did anything else happen on

Too. >> did anything else happen on your way home?

>> did anything else happen on your way home? Did you see anyone?

Your way home? Did you see anyone? Anything unusual?

Did you see anyone? Anything unusual? >> no.

Anything unusual? >> no. >> so, the obvious question was,

>> no. >> so, the obvious question was, "what happened to her, and why

>> so, the obvious question was, "what happened to her, and why is she the point at which these

"what happened to her, and why is she the point at which these two organizations kind of

Is she the point at which these two organizations kind of conflict or meet?"

Two organizations kind of conflict or meet?" her father, blair lucien, as it

Conflict or meet?" her father, blair lucien, as it turns out, was a kind of, I

Her father, blair lucien, as it turns out, was a kind of, I don't know,

Turns out, was a kind of, I don't know, scientist/mysticist/inventor.

And he had created this thing called the algorithm, which he

Called the algorithm, which he thought was going to be a very

Thought was going to be a very powerful way of helping humanity

Powerful way of helping humanity ascend to the next level.

And blair lucien's a real person, and he had a real house, in west berkeley, in the '70s

Person, and he had a real house, in west berkeley, in the '70s and '80s.

In west berkeley, in the '70s and '80s. And I did a little snooping

And '80s. And I did a little snooping about his property records and

And I did a little snooping about his property records and just about the construction of

About his property records and just about the construction of the house and the neighborhood.

Just about the construction of the house and the neighborhood. And it turns out this particular

The house and the neighborhood. And it turns out this particular house has a basement, a real

And it turns out this particular house has a basement, a real underground basement, which you

House has a basement, a real underground basement, which you don't really find in the bay

Underground basement, which you don't really find in the bay area hardly at all.

Don't really find in the bay area hardly at all. Here I was, spending a lot of

Area hardly at all. Here I was, spending a lot of time, trying to figure out who

Here I was, spending a lot of time, trying to figure out who blair lucien was, what's the

Time, trying to figure out who blair lucien was, what's the meaning of his special basement?

Blair lucien was, what's the meaning of his special basement? How do you interpret the fact

Meaning of his special basement? How do you interpret the fact that the algorithm is clearly

How do you interpret the fact that the algorithm is clearly with the jejune institute and

That the algorithm is clearly with the jejune institute and there's an artifact that makes

With the jejune institute and there's an artifact that makes it work that is somewhere else?

There's an artifact that makes it work that is somewhere else? That artifact being the crystal

It work that is somewhere else? That artifact being the crystal oscillator.

That artifact being the crystal oscillator. By this point, I was really at a

Oscillator. By this point, I was really at a place where I couldn't tell

By this point, I was really at a place where I couldn't tell where the game ended and

Place where I couldn't tell where the game ended and reality began.

Where the game ended and reality began. I'm not proud of it, but I broke

Reality began. I'm not proud of it, but I broke into a family's house, went into

I'm not proud of it, but I broke into a family's house, went into their basement.

Into a family's house, went into their basement. And in their basement, as it

Their basement. And in their basement, as it turned out, there was this door

And in their basement, as it turned out, there was this door that kind of led off somewhere.

Turned out, there was this door that kind of led off somewhere. And I didn't pick the lock.

That kind of led off somewhere. And I didn't pick the lock. I actually just kind of smashed

And I didn't pick the lock. I actually just kind of smashed the door down.

I actually just kind of smashed the door down. [ chuckles ]

The door down. [ chuckles ] and behind it was this tunnel.

[ chuckles ] and behind it was this tunnel. There was a drop-off, and then

And behind it was this tunnel. There was a drop-off, and then there was a tunnel full of

There was a drop-off, and then there was a tunnel full of water.

There was a tunnel full of water. And I went down there, and I

Water. And I went down there, and I started following it.

And I went down there, and I started following it. I didn't really have a

Started following it. I didn't really have a flashlight.

I didn't really have a flashlight. I just used my cellphone light.

Flashlight. I just used my cellphone light. And I ended up getting lost.

I just used my cellphone light. And I ended up getting lost. I have a kind of sea of memories

And I ended up getting lost. I have a kind of sea of memories and sounds and darkness that was

I have a kind of sea of memories and sounds and darkness that was relieved by the players who

And sounds and darkness that was relieved by the players who found me, to be honest.

Relieved by the players who found me, to be honest. >> I was asked to participate in

Found me, to be honest. >> I was asked to participate in a rescue of kelvin williams.

He had gone missing for a long time, and his website, his blog,

Time, and his website, his blog, was taken over by the

Was taken over by the elsewhere public works agency.

>> "your mission is to find and retrieve kelvin williams and, if possible, recover the crystal

Retrieve kelvin williams and, if possible, recover the crystal oscillator.

Possible, recover the crystal oscillator. If kelvin williams has it in his

Oscillator. If kelvin williams has it in his possession already, he'll know

If kelvin williams has it in his possession already, he'll know what to do with it.

Possession already, he'll know what to do with it. But, primarily, you need to

What to do with it. But, primarily, you need to help him get out of the

But, primarily, you need to help him get out of the underground.

Help him get out of the underground. You're here, and you need to get

Underground. You're here, and you need to get over here and then find the

You're here, and you need to get over here and then find the creek bed and follow it

Over here and then find the creek bed and follow it downstream into the subterranean

Creek bed and follow it downstream into the subterranean labyrinth.

Downstream into the subterranean labyrinth. Be forewarned -- shit gets weird

Labyrinth. Be forewarned -- shit gets weird down there.

Be forewarned -- shit gets weird down there. Go through the second open

Down there. Go through the second open portal to your right.

Go through the second open portal to your right. If you hit 850, you've gone too

Portal to your right. If you hit 850, you've gone too far."

If you hit 850, you've gone too far." down here.

Far." down here. >> so, that's a map of

Down here. >> so, that's a map of underground.

>> so, that's a map of underground. >> yeah.

Underground. >> yeah. >> holy fuck.

>> yeah. >> holy fuck. >> [ laughs ]

>> holy fuck. >> [ laughs ] >> that was terrifying, yeah.

>> [ laughs ] >> that was terrifying, yeah. We were asked to go down into

>> that was terrifying, yeah. We were asked to go down into these storm drains under the

We were asked to go down into these storm drains under the streets of berkeley to rescue

These storm drains under the streets of berkeley to rescue kelvin.

Streets of berkeley to rescue kelvin. And it was very early in the

Kelvin. And it was very early in the springtime.

And it was very early in the springtime. There was still quite a bit of

Springtime. There was still quite a bit of winter runoff in the pipes.

There was still quite a bit of winter runoff in the pipes. In order to get to the tunnels,

Winter runoff in the pipes. In order to get to the tunnels, you had to go along this park,

In order to get to the tunnels, you had to go along this park, go down into this river.

You had to go along this park, go down into this river. So, we were this deep in water.

Go down into this river. So, we were this deep in water. Soaked all the way through right

So, we were this deep in water. Soaked all the way through right from the beginning.

Soaked all the way through right from the beginning. And then, when we got to the

From the beginning. And then, when we got to the tunnels, there was water rushing

And then, when we got to the tunnels, there was water rushing past us.

Tunnels, there was water rushing past us. So, several times during the

Past us. So, several times during the course of the afternoon, we had

So, several times during the course of the afternoon, we had to hold onto the sides of the

Course of the afternoon, we had to hold onto the sides of the tunnel to keep from sliding down

To hold onto the sides of the tunnel to keep from sliding down into the water, to the runoff.

Tunnel to keep from sliding down into the water, to the runoff. And it's these old brick tunnels

Into the water, to the runoff. And it's these old brick tunnels at some point.

And it's these old brick tunnels at some point. So, there was weird sounds being

At some point. So, there was weird sounds being piped in from all these side

So, there was weird sounds being piped in from all these side tunnels and strange [chuckles]

Piped in from all these side tunnels and strange [chuckles] notations written in chalk on

Tunnels and strange [chuckles] notations written in chalk on all the walls.

Notations written in chalk on all the walls. And a lot of them said, like,

All the walls. And a lot of them said, like, "look behind you."

And a lot of them said, like, "look behind you." so, we were constantly -- I

"look behind you." so, we were constantly -- I think I was even bringing up the

So, we were constantly -- I think I was even bringing up the rear most of the time.

Think I was even bringing up the rear most of the time. So, I was constantly looking

Rear most of the time. So, I was constantly looking behind me and trying not to slip

So, I was constantly looking behind me and trying not to slip and trying not to hit my head,

Behind me and trying not to slip and trying not to hit my head, because the tunnel was 5 foot

And trying not to hit my head, because the tunnel was 5 foot something or other.

Because the tunnel was 5 foot something or other. So, I was crouched down the

Something or other. So, I was crouched down the whole time, incredibly

So, I was crouched down the whole time, incredibly comfortable of hearing the

Whole time, incredibly comfortable of hearing the sounds of hooting of the jejune

Comfortable of hearing the sounds of hooting of the jejune goons.

Sounds of hooting of the jejune goons. So, I imagined those black-clad

Goons. So, I imagined those black-clad creatures coming up and just

So, I imagined those black-clad creatures coming up and just grabbing me from behind the

Creatures coming up and just grabbing me from behind the whole time.

Grabbing me from behind the whole time. So, it was a game.

Whole time. So, it was a game. It's part of a game, but at that

So, it was a game. It's part of a game, but at that time, at that moment, it really

It's part of a game, but at that time, at that moment, it really didn't feel like a game anymore.

Time, at that moment, it really didn't feel like a game anymore. It was genuinely scary, yeah.

Didn't feel like a game anymore. It was genuinely scary, yeah. >> holy shit.

It was genuinely scary, yeah. >> holy shit. [ panting ]

>> holy shit. [ panting ] that tunnel wasn't very fun.

[ panting ] that tunnel wasn't very fun. >> [ laughs ]

That tunnel wasn't very fun. >> [ laughs ] >> hi.

>> [ laughs ] >> hi. >> hi.

>> hi. >> hi. [ laughter ]

>> hi. [ laughter ] how did -- how did you find this

[ laughter ] how did -- how did you find this place?

How did -- how did you find this place? >> the hollows had sent us.

Place? >> the hollows had sent us. >> where did this tunnel come

>> the hollows had sent us. >> where did this tunnel come from?

>> where did this tunnel come from? I came from the other way.

From? I came from the other way. And there's a chamber and...

I came from the other way. And there's a chamber and... Get me out of here.

And there's a chamber and... Get me out of here. [ laughter ]

Get me out of here. [ laughter ] somewhere back there...

[ laughter ] somewhere back there... >> hidden?

Somewhere back there... >> hidden? >> ...The tunnels go the other

>> hidden? >> ...The tunnels go the other way, and it was in a chamber.

>> ...The tunnels go the other way, and it was in a chamber. Want to see it?

Way, and it was in a chamber. Want to see it? >> yeah.

Want to see it? >> yeah. Hey.

>> yeah. Hey. >> maybe we should wait till we

Hey. >> maybe we should wait till we get out.

>> maybe we should wait till we get out. >> I don't know...

Get out. >> I don't know... >> whoa.

>> I don't know... >> whoa. >> ...What to make of it, but

>> whoa. >> ...What to make of it, but that's it.

>> ...What to make of it, but that's it. That's what they said.

That's it. That's what they said. It's in a crystal.

That's what they said. It's in a crystal. >> and without this, the

It's in a crystal. >> and without this, the algorithm's useless.

>> and without this, the algorithm's useless. >> I guess.

Algorithm's useless. >> I guess. >> all right.

>> I guess. >> all right. Let's form a little bodyguard

>> all right. Let's form a little bodyguard party around him and the

Let's form a little bodyguard party around him and the crystal.

Party around him and the crystal. >> everyone understands what

Crystal. >> everyone understands what somewhere is.

>> everyone understands what somewhere is. If I say "san francisco," most

Somewhere is. If I say "san francisco," most people know what I'm referring

If I say "san francisco," most people know what I'm referring to.

People know what I'm referring to. Or, at least, they think they

To. Or, at least, they think they do.

Or, at least, they think they do. They have an idea of here and an

Do. They have an idea of here and an idea of there.

They have an idea of here and an idea of there. In other words, "here" is the

Idea of there. In other words, "here" is the place we are, and "there" is the

In other words, "here" is the place we are, and "there" is the place we are not.

Place we are, and "there" is the place we are not. Elsewhere is a kind of magical

Place we are not. Elsewhere is a kind of magical between.

Elsewhere is a kind of magical between. A human being, someone like eva,

Between. A human being, someone like eva, with the right understanding,

A human being, someone like eva, with the right understanding, can take the seed within them

With the right understanding, can take the seed within them and become a doorway to

Can take the seed within them and become a doorway to elsewhere.

And become a doorway to elsewhere. I suspected that eva's deep

Elsewhere. I suspected that eva's deep capacities to use this seed to

I suspected that eva's deep capacities to use this seed to transform our reality in ways

Capacities to use this seed to transform our reality in ways that we were unprepared for was

Transform our reality in ways that we were unprepared for was the reason why she was pursued

That we were unprepared for was the reason why she was pursued and also the reason why she

The reason why she was pursued and also the reason why she disappeared.

And also the reason why she disappeared. It was my suspicion that

Disappeared. It was my suspicion that somebody became aware of this

It was my suspicion that somebody became aware of this girl's capacity to introduce

Somebody became aware of this girl's capacity to introduce unexpected novelty into

Girl's capacity to introduce unexpected novelty into situations that seemed otherwise

Unexpected novelty into situations that seemed otherwise frozen.

Situations that seemed otherwise frozen. And I feel they were intent on

Frozen. And I feel they were intent on co-opting these abilities for

And I feel they were intent on co-opting these abilities for the sake of corporate, military,

Co-opting these abilities for the sake of corporate, military, or cultlike goals.

The sake of corporate, military, or cultlike goals. And thus, she had to arrange to

Or cultlike goals. And thus, she had to arrange to put herself in a position where

And thus, she had to arrange to put herself in a position where she would be inaccessible to

Put herself in a position where she would be inaccessible to people who she would be

She would be inaccessible to people who she would be otherwise unable to evade and

People who she would be otherwise unable to evade and that she remains, I think, in a

Otherwise unable to evade and that she remains, I think, in a suspension, a kind of suspended

That she remains, I think, in a suspension, a kind of suspended place, a place of suspended

Suspension, a kind of suspended place, a place of suspended time, identity, and location, a

Place, a place of suspended time, identity, and location, a place which we use the term

Time, identity, and location, a place which we use the term "elsewhere" to refer to.

>> so, as for -- even before it started, I was really excited

Started, I was really excited for it because it actually took

For it because it actually took place in oakland instead of

Place in oakland instead of san francisco, and I live in

San francisco, and I live in oakland.

Oakland. And it's kind of like home turf

And it's kind of like home turf for me.

For me. And when I found out it was at

And when I found out it was at the chapel of the chimes, I was

The chapel of the chimes, I was even more excited, because it's

Even more excited, because it's this beautiful -- it's like a

This beautiful -- it's like a mausoleum.

It houses, you know, probably like thousands and thousands of people's ashes.

Like thousands and thousands of people's ashes. But all the urns are books.

People's ashes. But all the urns are books. So, you walk in, and it's like

But all the urns are books. So, you walk in, and it's like trees and plants inside.

So, you walk in, and it's like trees and plants inside. There's, like, little corridors

Trees and plants inside. There's, like, little corridors and little alcoves, and they

There's, like, little corridors and little alcoves, and they each have different names, like,

And little alcoves, and they each have different names, like, "chapel of spirituality."

Each have different names, like, "chapel of spirituality." they all have these really

"chapel of spirituality." they all have these really amazing names.

They all have these really amazing names. And it's also right next to the

Amazing names. And it's also right next to the mountain view cemetery, which

And it's also right next to the mountain view cemetery, which might be one of the oldest

Mountain view cemetery, which might be one of the oldest cemeteries in oakland, and it's

Might be one of the oldest cemeteries in oakland, and it's just really beautiful, and I've

Cemeteries in oakland, and it's just really beautiful, and I've always gone there to just hang

Just really beautiful, and I've always gone there to just hang out or write or...

Always gone there to just hang out or write or... Be like "emo" or something by

Out or write or... Be like "emo" or something by the graveyard.

Be like "emo" or something by the graveyard. I don't know.

The graveyard. I don't know. We had gotten assigned into

I don't know. We had gotten assigned into groups, and each of us got

We had gotten assigned into groups, and each of us got mailed a postcard.

Groups, and each of us got mailed a postcard. And the postcard gave us a

Mailed a postcard. And the postcard gave us a direction.

And the postcard gave us a direction. And then they gave us, like, a

Direction. And then they gave us, like, a line that we were supposed to

And then they gave us, like, a line that we were supposed to say at a certain point.

Line that we were supposed to say at a certain point. But it was all really vague, and

Say at a certain point. But it was all really vague, and we weren't sure how it all tied

But it was all really vague, and we weren't sure how it all tied together.

We weren't sure how it all tied together. The meeting spot was not at the

Together. The meeting spot was not at the chapel of the chimes.

The meeting spot was not at the chapel of the chimes. It was a couple blocks away.

Chapel of the chimes. It was a couple blocks away. And the whole group met up.

It was a couple blocks away. And the whole group met up. A lot of us had never met

And the whole group met up. A lot of us had never met before, and so, it was really

A lot of us had never met before, and so, it was really cool to, like, meet other people

Before, and so, it was really cool to, like, meet other people that had been involved.

Cool to, like, meet other people that had been involved. Or maybe I'd only, like, seen

That had been involved. Or maybe I'd only, like, seen them online.

Or maybe I'd only, like, seen them online. Like, I had no idea.

Them online. Like, I had no idea. There were, like, markings on

Like, I had no idea. There were, like, markings on the ground, I think, that we

There were, like, markings on the ground, I think, that we followed, and eventually we

The ground, I think, that we followed, and eventually we ended up at the

Followed, and eventually we ended up at the chapel of the chimes.

Ended up at the chapel of the chimes. >> yeah, there it is -- 4499,

Chapel of the chimes. >> yeah, there it is -- 4499, chapel of the chimes.

>> let's just find the compass. >> compass, compass, compass. Oh, found it!

North -- that way. All right. Now what? >> "assemble, then take notes

All right. Now what? >> "assemble, then take notes and embark upon completion.

>> "assemble, then take notes and embark upon completion. Enter under and thy coming in."

And embark upon completion. Enter under and thy coming in." >> "and thy coming in."

Enter under and thy coming in." >> "and thy coming in." >> oh! Oh!

All right. Now it says one of you has to die.

Now it says one of you has to die. [ laughs ]

Die. [ laughs ] >> "and find the patience."

[ laughs ] >> "and find the patience." >> "patience court."

>> "and find the patience." >> "patience court." >> "patience court."

>> the word "patience" is on this door. And then "play."

This door. And then "play." >> play.

And then "play." >> play. >> what could that mean?

>> play. >> what could that mean? I don't understand.

>> what could that mean? I don't understand. [ chuckles ]

I don't understand. [ chuckles ] [ slow-tempo music plays]

[ chuckles ] [ slow-tempo music plays] >> patience...

[ slow-tempo music plays] >> patience... Patience...

>> patience... Patience... Patience.

Patience... Patience. You found me.

Patience. You found me. Welcome, my friends.

You found me. Welcome, my friends. I know you were concerned about

Welcome, my friends. I know you were concerned about me, but isn't it clear now that

I know you were concerned about me, but isn't it clear now that I've been where I was always

Me, but isn't it clear now that I've been where I was always meant to be?

I've been where I was always meant to be? And you...

Meant to be? And you... You've traveled such a long way

And you... You've traveled such a long way to arrive here today.

You've traveled such a long way to arrive here today. You came together to make this

To arrive here today. You came together to make this happen.

You came together to make this happen. I am so moved.

Happen. I am so moved. I want to take this moment to

I am so moved. I want to take this moment to fully take it in, look around,

I want to take this moment to fully take it in, look around, contemplate our surroundings

Fully take it in, look around, contemplate our surroundings now -- the stone and the tile,

Contemplate our surroundings now -- the stone and the tile, the light through the stained

Now -- the stone and the tile, the light through the stained glass.

The light through the stained glass. You've all arrived here for a

Glass. You've all arrived here for a reason.

You've all arrived here for a reason. Each one of us played our part.

Reason. Each one of us played our part. Now...

Each one of us played our part. Now... Are we ready to continue our

Now... Are we ready to continue our voyage?

Are we ready to continue our voyage? Above the door, do you see

Voyage? Above the door, do you see mason?

Above the door, do you see mason? Retrieve the vase that is by

Mason? Retrieve the vase that is by mason above the door.

Retrieve the vase that is by mason above the door. Pair up with the person not

Mason above the door. Pair up with the person not holding a blindfold who is

Pair up with the person not holding a blindfold who is closest to your height.

Holding a blindfold who is closest to your height. Now...

Closest to your height. Now... Blindfold that person.

Now... Blindfold that person. [ laughter ]

Blindfold that person. [ laughter ] you've lost one of your senses,

[ laughter ] you've lost one of your senses, and you'll need to replace

You've lost one of your senses, and you'll need to replace that...

And you'll need to replace that... With trust.

That... With trust. >> I was at the front of the

With trust. >> I was at the front of the line, and we all had our

>> I was at the front of the line, and we all had our blindfolds on and had, like, no

Line, and we all had our blindfolds on and had, like, no idea what to expect.

Blindfolds on and had, like, no idea what to expect. And suddenly this, like, hand

Idea what to expect. And suddenly this, like, hand just reaches out and grabs my

And suddenly this, like, hand just reaches out and grabs my hand.

Just reaches out and grabs my hand. And it really just kind of took

Hand. And it really just kind of took my breath away.

And it really just kind of took my breath away. And during the whole, when you

My breath away. And during the whole, when you talk about the whole experience,

And during the whole, when you talk about the whole experience, you know, we're trying to find

Talk about the whole experience, you know, we're trying to find eva and what happened to her, it

You know, we're trying to find eva and what happened to her, it was, like, physically -- well,

Eva and what happened to her, it was, like, physically -- well, in my mind, it was, like,

Was, like, physically -- well, in my mind, it was, like, physically eva, like, leading

In my mind, it was, like, physically eva, like, leading me, like, holding my hand.

Physically eva, like, leading me, like, holding my hand. And that's when I kind of -- I

Me, like, holding my hand. And that's when I kind of -- I kind of lost it, and I was,

And that's when I kind of -- I kind of lost it, and I was, like, silently crying, like,

Kind of lost it, and I was, like, silently crying, like, underneath my blindfold.

Like, silently crying, like, underneath my blindfold. And the whole concept of

Underneath my blindfold. And the whole concept of elsewhere has just been really

And the whole concept of elsewhere has just been really special to me.

Elsewhere has just been really special to me. I always feel like this world is

Special to me. I always feel like this world is missing something, like there's

I always feel like this world is missing something, like there's some spark that I want it to

Missing something, like there's some spark that I want it to have.

Some spark that I want it to have. That's what I feel like I'm

Have. That's what I feel like I'm constantly searching for in my

That's what I feel like I'm constantly searching for in my everyday life, and um...

Constantly searching for in my everyday life, and um... The concept of elsewhere is,

Everyday life, and um... The concept of elsewhere is, like, that's -- that's it.

The concept of elsewhere is, like, that's -- that's it. Like, that's where I want to be.

Like, that's -- that's it. Like, that's where I want to be. That's where there's possibility

Like, that's where I want to be. That's where there's possibility and imagination.

That's where there's possibility and imagination. [ laughs ]

And imagination. [ laughs ] I'm sorry.

[ laughs ] I'm sorry. Um...

I'm sorry. Um... [ laughs ]

Um... [ laughs ] [ sniffles ]

[ laughs ] [ sniffles ] well, long story short, I got

[ sniffles ] well, long story short, I got "elsewhere" tattooed on myself

Well, long story short, I got "elsewhere" tattooed on myself as kind of a little memento, but

"elsewhere" tattooed on myself as kind of a little memento, but I don't know why I'm crying!

As kind of a little memento, but I don't know why I'm crying! [ laughing ] sorry!

I don't know why I'm crying! [ laughing ] sorry! Um...

[ laughing ] sorry! Um... Like, meaningless coincidences

Um... Like, meaningless coincidences really mean a lot to me, and I

Like, meaningless coincidences really mean a lot to me, and I just feel like there's

Really mean a lot to me, and I just feel like there's something, there's something out

Just feel like there's something, there's something out there guiding that.

Something, there's something out there guiding that. The feeling that I had that day

There guiding that. The feeling that I had that day just kind of summed up

The feeling that I had that day just kind of summed up everything that I had done.

Just kind of summed up everything that I had done. That feeling that you get when

Everything that I had done. That feeling that you get when you find a clue or something, or

That feeling that you get when you find a clue or something, or you make the connection of what

You find a clue or something, or you make the connection of what you're supposed to do next --

You make the connection of what you're supposed to do next -- that, like, split second of,

You're supposed to do next -- that, like, split second of, like, connection.

That, like, split second of, like, connection. Like, that's when you're

Like, connection. Like, that's when you're elsewhere.

Like, that's when you're elsewhere. That's what's awesome.

Elsewhere. That's what's awesome. >> basically, a couple months

That's what's awesome. >> basically, a couple months before the year was out, we had,

>> basically, a couple months before the year was out, we had, the company -- jeff -- had come

Before the year was out, we had, the company -- jeff -- had come to a decision that budget needed

The company -- jeff -- had come to a decision that budget needed to be severely cut for the new

To a decision that budget needed to be severely cut for the new year, and that was simply in the

To be severely cut for the new year, and that was simply in the months to set up an ending to

Year, and that was simply in the months to set up an ending to it, 'cause there was always an

Months to set up an ending to it, 'cause there was always an intention to create an ending.

It, 'cause there was always an intention to create an ending. >> jeff and I talked, and it

Intention to create an ending. >> jeff and I talked, and it started small, in terms of,

>> jeff and I talked, and it started small, in terms of, "well, we can't afford to.

Started small, in terms of, "well, we can't afford to. We're gonna have to set an end

"well, we can't afford to. We're gonna have to set an end date, because we just can't

We're gonna have to set an end date, because we just can't afford to keep running it."

Date, because we just can't afford to keep running it." >> the wind down was beginning

Afford to keep running it." >> the wind down was beginning in some way, shape, or form.

>> the wind down was beginning in some way, shape, or form. It became very real that this

In some way, shape, or form. It became very real that this was going to have an end date,

It became very real that this was going to have an end date, and that that end date was going

Was going to have an end date, and that that end date was going to become hard soon.

And that that end date was going to become hard soon. >> and it really was just a case

To become hard soon. >> and it really was just a case of the art was the most

>> and it really was just a case of the art was the most important thing, and the

Of the art was the most important thing, and the business of it got in the way.

Important thing, and the business of it got in the way. >> it was right at that time

Business of it got in the way. >> it was right at that time that I was approached by

>> it was right at that time that I was approached by geordie aitken, a

That I was approached by geordie aitken, a leadership-training person for

Geordie aitken, a leadership-training person for corporate team-building

Leadership-training person for corporate team-building exercises in canada.

Corporate team-building exercises in canada. And he wanted to meet, and we

Exercises in canada. And he wanted to meet, and we just got along.

And he wanted to meet, and we just got along. It was, like, fast friends

Just got along. It was, like, fast friends instantly.

>> it was, what do they say, a "bromance" from the beginning

"bromance" from the beginning and a beautiful one at that.

And a beautiful one at that. Not 'cause jeff is beautiful

Not 'cause jeff is beautiful physically.

I mean... Not that he's not beautiful physically, for sure, but what

Not that he's not beautiful physically, for sure, but what I'm trying to say is, it has

Physically, for sure, but what I'm trying to say is, it has nothing to do with physical

I'm trying to say is, it has nothing to do with physical beauty.

Nothing to do with physical beauty. >> we had this shared knowledge

Beauty. >> we had this shared knowledge of the history of the self-help

>> we had this shared knowledge of the history of the self-help movement, and he had this

Of the history of the self-help movement, and he had this appreciation for my craft, and I

Movement, and he had this appreciation for my craft, and I recognized in him this really

Appreciation for my craft, and I recognized in him this really charismatic, compelling, and

Recognized in him this really charismatic, compelling, and very skilled and experienced

Charismatic, compelling, and very skilled and experienced person in this realm.

Very skilled and experienced person in this realm. >> I just do what I do.

Person in this realm. >> I just do what I do. I lead groups.

>> I just do what I do. I lead groups. I'm used to resistant people and

I lead groups. I'm used to resistant people and cynics, and I'm comfortable

I'm used to resistant people and cynics, and I'm comfortable moving into fictional roles or

Cynics, and I'm comfortable moving into fictional roles or different persona in order to

Moving into fictional roles or different persona in order to facilitate an experience, 'cause

Different persona in order to facilitate an experience, 'cause sometimes -- for instance, in

Facilitate an experience, 'cause sometimes -- for instance, in the ninja-training work I do, I

Sometimes -- for instance, in the ninja-training work I do, I move into this sort of sensei

The ninja-training work I do, I move into this sort of sensei role, which requires a kind of

Move into this sort of sensei role, which requires a kind of different slant on my normal

Role, which requires a kind of different slant on my normal personality.

Different slant on my normal personality. >> when people first entered the

Personality. >> when people first entered the induction center, it made them

>> when people first entered the induction center, it made them nervous.

Induction center, it made them nervous. It freaked them out a little

Nervous. It freaked them out a little bit because they didn't know

It freaked them out a little bit because they didn't know where the fiction was and where

Bit because they didn't know where the fiction was and where the reality was.

Where the fiction was and where the reality was. And that was the tension that we

The reality was. And that was the tension that we thought was really rich, was

And that was the tension that we thought was really rich, was really compelling.

Thought was really rich, was really compelling. >> and bringing a climactic

Really compelling. >> and bringing a climactic conclusion to the story through

>> and bringing a climactic conclusion to the story through opposition seemed almost, to

Conclusion to the story through opposition seemed almost, to him, trite or too pat or maybe

Opposition seemed almost, to him, trite or too pat or maybe too easy.

Him, trite or too pat or maybe too easy. It was just too easy.

Too easy. It was just too easy. >> what happens when you get all

It was just too easy. >> what happens when you get all these people in the room, and

>> what happens when you get all these people in the room, and they're expecting it to be this

These people in the room, and they're expecting it to be this big science-fiction fantasy, and

They're expecting it to be this big science-fiction fantasy, and you just hold a seminar...

Big science-fiction fantasy, and you just hold a seminar... All day...

You just hold a seminar... All day... All day long.

All day... All day long. >> well, there was so much

All day long. >> well, there was so much lead-up to the seminar.

>> well, there was so much lead-up to the seminar. We were to run a covert

Lead-up to the seminar. We were to run a covert operation at the prescreening,

We were to run a covert operation at the prescreening, at the hotel room.

Operation at the prescreening, at the hotel room. We were supposed to look for

At the hotel room. We were supposed to look for these little bio-force globes.

We were supposed to look for these little bio-force globes. >> everyone was told to steal --

These little bio-force globes. >> everyone was told to steal -- it was called a bio-force

>> everyone was told to steal -- it was called a bio-force globe -- from a bowl in the

It was called a bio-force globe -- from a bowl in the room.

And it was supposed to be this thing that operated the

Thing that operated the vital-orbit forcefield that was

Vital-orbit forcefield that was going to destroy the

Going to destroy the jejune institute once and for

Jejune institute once and for all and bring their "jejunery"

All and bring their "jejunery" to light.

>> you know, bringing this guy down didn't seem like such an awful thing.

Down didn't seem like such an awful thing. Like, you know, if we put an end

Awful thing. Like, you know, if we put an end to a cult that's potentially

Like, you know, if we put an end to a cult that's potentially ruining people's lives, you

To a cult that's potentially ruining people's lives, you know, let's do that.

Ruining people's lives, you know, let's do that. [ chuckles ]

Know, let's do that. [ chuckles ] [ knock on door ]

[ chuckles ] [ knock on door ] >> hello.

[ knock on door ] >> hello. >> hello!

>> hello. >> hello! >> how may I help you?

>> hello! >> how may I help you? >> I'm here for the

>> how may I help you? >> I'm here for the prescreening.

>> I'm here for the prescreening. >> and your name, please?

Prescreening. >> and your name, please? >> mark.

>> and your name, please? >> mark. >> mark ellis?

>> mark. >> mark ellis? >> mm-hmm.

>> mark ellis? >> mm-hmm. >> plus one?

>> mm-hmm. >> plus one? >> no.

>> plus one? >> no. >> okay.

>> no. >> okay. >> do you have a twin?

>> okay. >> do you have a twin? >> no.

>> do you have a twin? >> no. >> oh.

>> no. >> oh. Please have a seat...

>> oh. Please have a seat... [ door closes ]

Please have a seat... [ door closes ] ...On the cushioned chair.

[ door closes ] ...On the cushioned chair. >> all right.

...On the cushioned chair. >> all right. >> now...

>> all right. >> now... This is a very straightforward

>> now... This is a very straightforward process.

This is a very straightforward process. >> mm-hmm.

Process. >> mm-hmm. >> I'm going to ask you a few

>> mm-hmm. >> I'm going to ask you a few questions.

>> I'm going to ask you a few questions. We're gonna take some readings.

Questions. We're gonna take some readings. And then I'm going to show you a

We're gonna take some readings. And then I'm going to show you a video.

And then I'm going to show you a video. How does that sound?

Video. How does that sound? >> sounds good.

How does that sound? >> sounds good. >> all right.

>> sounds good. >> all right. The first thing we need to do is

>> all right. The first thing we need to do is get you wired in.

The first thing we need to do is get you wired in. >> all right.

Get you wired in. >> all right. >> it's a completely painless,

>> all right. >> it's a completely painless, noninvasive procedure.

>> it's a completely painless, noninvasive procedure. Just lean your head forward.

Noninvasive procedure. Just lean your head forward. Thank you.

Just lean your head forward. Thank you. Are you left- or right-handed?

Thank you. Are you left- or right-handed? >> I'm right-handed.

Are you left- or right-handed? >> I'm right-handed. >> I need your left index

>> I'm right-handed. >> I need your left index finger, please.

Please put your attention here. >> mm-hmm.

>> what's your name? >> mark ellis. >> where were you born, mark?

>> mark ellis. >> where were you born, mark? >> in walnut creek.

>> where were you born, mark? >> in walnut creek. >> where do you live now?

>> in walnut creek. >> where do you live now? >> martinez.

>> where do you live now? >> martinez. >> how long have you been

>> martinez. >> how long have you been participating with the

>> how long have you been participating with the institute?

Participating with the institute? >> for about two years.

Institute? >> for about two years. >> have you ever experienced a

>> for about two years. >> have you ever experienced a lucid dream?

>> have you ever experienced a lucid dream? >> yes.

Lucid dream? >> yes. >> have you experienced a lucid

>> yes. >> have you experienced a lucid dream within the past year?

>> have you experienced a lucid dream within the past year? >> I think so, yeah.

Dream within the past year? >> I think so, yeah. >> within the past six months?

>> I think so, yeah. >> within the past six months? >> hmm...Maybe not.

>> within the past six months? >> hmm...Maybe not. >> are you dreaming now?

>> hmm...Maybe not. >> are you dreaming now? >> I don't know.

>> are you dreaming now? >> I don't know. >> have you ever experienced

>> I don't know. >> have you ever experienced déjà vu?

>> have you ever experienced déjà vu? >> yes.

Déjà vu? >> yes. Have you experienced déjà vu

>> yes. Have you experienced déjà vu within the past year?

Have you experienced déjà vu within the past year? >> yes.

Within the past year? >> yes. >> within the past six months?

>> yes. >> within the past six months? >> yes.

>> within the past six months? >> yes. >> past three months?

>> yes. >> past three months? >> maybe.

>> past three months? >> maybe. >> all right.

>> maybe. >> all right. I'm going to show you a video.

>> all right. I'm going to show you a video. There's no right or wrong way to

I'm going to show you a video. There's no right or wrong way to experience this video.

There's no right or wrong way to experience this video. However, it is extremely

Experience this video. However, it is extremely important that you give the

However, it is extremely important that you give the video your undivided attention.

Important that you give the video your undivided attention. Do you understand?

Video your undivided attention. Do you understand? >> yes.

Do you understand? >> yes. [ whirring, heart beats ]

[ beeping ]

Is that it? >> I don't know. Is that it? >> I don't know. Is that it?

>> that concludes our prescreening process. >> thank you.

Prescreening process. >> thank you. >> enjoy your day.

>> thank you. >> enjoy your day. Enjoy your weekend.

>> enjoy your day. Enjoy your weekend. >> all right.

Enjoy your weekend. >> all right. Thank you very much.

>> all right. Thank you very much. So, I did get one of these.

It looks like a flower bud -- pretty cool, though. Well, that's it.

Pretty cool, though. Well, that's it. I'm done.

Well, that's it. I'm done. Hello.

I'm done. Hello. >> hello.

Hello. >> hello. >> good to see you.

>> hello. >> good to see you. >> your name again, please?

>> good to see you. >> your name again, please? >> mark.

>> your name again, please? >> mark. >> mark. Your last name?

>> mark. >> mark. Your last name? >> ellis.

>> mark. Your last name? >> ellis. >> mark ellis?

>> ellis. >> mark ellis? Did you dream last night?

>> mark ellis? Did you dream last night? >> yes.

Did you dream last night? >> yes. >> excellent.

>> yes. >> excellent. Are you ready for today's event?

>> excellent. Are you ready for today's event? >> yes.

Are you ready for today's event? >> yes. >> perfect.

>> yes. >> perfect. >> welcome, mark.

>> perfect. >> welcome, mark. >> thank you.

>> welcome, mark. >> thank you. So, the day of the seminar, a

>> thank you. So, the day of the seminar, a lot of us had our bio-force

So, the day of the seminar, a lot of us had our bio-force globe things.

Lot of us had our bio-force globe things. >> the epwa was going to give us

Globe things. >> the epwa was going to give us the power to take down the

>> the epwa was going to give us the power to take down the jejune institute.

The power to take down the jejune institute. >> we would all do jazz hands,

Jejune institute. >> we would all do jazz hands, and commander 14 would show up.

>> we would all do jazz hands, and commander 14 would show up. Maybe even eva would show up.

And commander 14 would show up. Maybe even eva would show up. And hooray, we're the triumphant

Maybe even eva would show up. And hooray, we're the triumphant ones, you know?

And hooray, we're the triumphant ones, you know? Go get drunk. I don't know.

[ birds chirping ] >> I see you. [ chuckles ]

>> I see you. [ chuckles ] I'm glad you're here.

[ chuckles ] I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you're all here.

I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you're all here. I'm here.

I'm glad you're all here. I'm here. We're here.

I'm here. We're here. Aren't we?

We're here. Aren't we? We are here.

Aren't we? We are here. I am antoine, and welcome to

We are here. I am antoine, and welcome to socio-reengineering 2011.

I am antoine, and welcome to socio-reengineering 2011. [ crowd cheers ]

>> welcome to socio-reengineering 2011, brought to you by

Socio-reengineering 2011, brought to you by the jejune institute, llc.

Brought to you by the jejune institute, llc. Thirty-two years ago, the very

The jejune institute, llc. Thirty-two years ago, the very first socio-reengineering

Thirty-two years ago, the very first socio-reengineering seminar took place at

First socio-reengineering seminar took place at slide ranch retreat center on

Seminar took place at slide ranch retreat center on the dramatic coastline of

Slide ranch retreat center on the dramatic coastline of marin county.

The dramatic coastline of marin county. Once a decade, we have

Marin county. Once a decade, we have continued on in the tradition

Once a decade, we have continued on in the tradition established at that first

Continued on in the tradition established at that first monumental event.

Established at that first monumental event. Today, you are here to

Monumental event. Today, you are here to participate in that legacy.

Of many beautiful things to emerge from that historic weekend, there was a particular

Emerge from that historic weekend, there was a particular union established.

It was the romantic connection between institute researchers ezra logan and

Between institute researchers ezra logan and mrs. Toni hapuis, which

Ezra logan and mrs. Toni hapuis, which continues to burn brightly to

Mrs. Toni hapuis, which continues to burn brightly to this day.

Continues to burn brightly to this day. From this cosmic spark, a child

This day. From this cosmic spark, a child was conceived that weekend by

From this cosmic spark, a child was conceived that weekend by the name of antoine logan, a

Was conceived that weekend by the name of antoine logan, a shining light in the movement.

The name of antoine logan, a shining light in the movement. Antoine became a young

Shining light in the movement. Antoine became a young protégé of octavio coleman,

Antoine became a young protégé of octavio coleman, esquire.

Protégé of octavio coleman, esquire. Spending his formative years

Esquire. Spending his formative years under his close tutelage,

Spending his formative years under his close tutelage, today, we will have the

Under his close tutelage, today, we will have the singular pleasure of

Today, we will have the singular pleasure of experiencing antoine logan in

Singular pleasure of experiencing antoine logan in all of his

Experiencing antoine logan in all of his vision, strength, and wisdom,

All of his vision, strength, and wisdom, as established through his

Vision, strength, and wisdom, as established through his careful application of the

As established through his careful application of the jejune method.

Careful application of the jejune method. >> feel your body.

Jejune method. >> feel your body. Feel the gravity as it pulls you

>> feel your body. Feel the gravity as it pulls you to the ground.

Feel the gravity as it pulls you to the ground. We are material.

To the ground. We are material. We are full of judgments.

We are material. We are full of judgments. Fall in love with what's

We are full of judgments. Fall in love with what's possible.

Fall in love with what's possible. Synthesis allows us to plow

Possible. Synthesis allows us to plow forward and to do the hard work

Synthesis allows us to plow forward and to do the hard work of really learning about each

Forward and to do the hard work of really learning about each other, which moves to a place we

Of really learning about each other, which moves to a place we call "high performance."

Other, which moves to a place we call "high performance." the layers of our personality

Call "high performance." the layers of our personality are predictable.

The layers of our personality are predictable. We call it armor because when we

Are predictable. We call it armor because when we hold on to how we see things,

We call it armor because when we hold on to how we see things, when we hold tight to our

Hold on to how we see things, when we hold tight to our habitual world view and

When we hold tight to our habitual world view and opinions, we become quite rigid.

Habitual world view and opinions, we become quite rigid. Often, our character armor, that

Opinions, we become quite rigid. Often, our character armor, that habitual way of seeing and

Often, our character armor, that habitual way of seeing and operating, gets in the way of

Habitual way of seeing and operating, gets in the way of becoming who we need to be.

Operating, gets in the way of becoming who we need to be. The wisdom body speaks in these

Becoming who we need to be. The wisdom body speaks in these sorts of games, you know?

The wisdom body speaks in these sorts of games, you know? >> he had us do these

Sorts of games, you know? >> he had us do these deep-breathing exercises and

>> he had us do these deep-breathing exercises and going, "mmm."

Deep-breathing exercises and going, "mmm." and apparently -- I wasn't there

Going, "mmm." and apparently -- I wasn't there to witness this -- but

And apparently -- I wasn't there to witness this -- but apparently we took a bathroom

To witness this -- but apparently we took a bathroom break, and he was standing at

Apparently we took a bathroom break, and he was standing at one of the urinals going, "mmm."

Break, and he was standing at one of the urinals going, "mmm." >> there was a break, and after

One of the urinals going, "mmm." >> there was a break, and after he came back from the break,

>> there was a break, and after he came back from the break, they were setting out glasses of

He came back from the break, they were setting out glasses of hot water.

They were setting out glasses of hot water. And we're like, "oh, my god,

Hot water. And we're like, "oh, my god, this is like when they're gonna

And we're like, "oh, my god, this is like when they're gonna make drink the kool-aid.

This is like when they're gonna make drink the kool-aid. Like, maybe this is -- maybe

Make drink the kool-aid. Like, maybe this is -- maybe we've been, like, fooled all

Like, maybe this is -- maybe we've been, like, fooled all along.

We've been, like, fooled all along. Maybe this is a cult, and we're

Along. Maybe this is a cult, and we're all about to die."

Maybe this is a cult, and we're all about to die." >> oh, some of you brought

All about to die." >> oh, some of you brought something with you.

>> oh, some of you brought something with you. Take it out now.

Something with you. Take it out now. Take it out.

Take it out now. Take it out. It's okay.

Take it out. It's okay. It's okay.

It's okay. It's okay. >> he just kept on trying to get

It's okay. >> he just kept on trying to get us to put the balls in the

>> he just kept on trying to get us to put the balls in the water.

Us to put the balls in the water. He's like, "put them in your

Water. He's like, "put them in your cup."

He's like, "put them in your cup." and we're like, "no!"

Cup." and we're like, "no!" 'cause inside, we're like,

And we're like, "no!" 'cause inside, we're like, "we're on the epwa side."

'cause inside, we're like, "we're on the epwa side." like, we can't betray them, you

"we're on the epwa side." like, we can't betray them, you know?

Like, we can't betray them, you know? But eventually people started

Know? But eventually people started putting the tea in the water.

But eventually people started putting the tea in the water. I put mine in and immediately

Putting the tea in the water. I put mine in and immediately regretted it.

I put mine in and immediately regretted it. I was like, "god, I let them get

Regretted it. I was like, "god, I let them get to me."

I was like, "god, I let them get to me." >> the key in that moment was I

To me." >> the key in that moment was I didn't resist their resistance.

>> the key in that moment was I didn't resist their resistance. My unflappability helped seduce

Didn't resist their resistance. My unflappability helped seduce some of the weaker ones into

My unflappability helped seduce some of the weaker ones into putting their orb into the tea.

Some of the weaker ones into putting their orb into the tea. And it helped provoke the more

Putting their orb into the tea. And it helped provoke the more strident participants into

And it helped provoke the more strident participants into greater and greater levels of

Strident participants into greater and greater levels of resistance, which became a

Greater and greater levels of resistance, which became a comedy in itself, to the point

Resistance, which became a comedy in itself, to the point where someone says, "why should

Comedy in itself, to the point where someone says, "why should we do it?"

Where someone says, "why should we do it?" and I say...

We do it?" and I say... Because that's how we make tea.

And I say... Because that's how we make tea. [ laughter ]

Because that's how we make tea. [ laughter ] [ applause ]

[ laughter ] [ applause ] and everyone got it, because the

[ applause ] and everyone got it, because the laughter rippled through the

And everyone got it, because the laughter rippled through the room.

Laughter rippled through the room. And in that moment, even despite

Room. And in that moment, even despite themselves, everyone got the

And in that moment, even despite themselves, everyone got the comedy.

Themselves, everyone got the comedy. I don't know.

Comedy. I don't know. The absurdist truth cut through

I don't know. The absurdist truth cut through the levels of reality, and

The absurdist truth cut through the levels of reality, and suddenly the game merged with

The levels of reality, and suddenly the game merged with the present moment.

Suddenly the game merged with the present moment. Alter egos merged with real

The present moment. Alter egos merged with real identities, and everyone had a

Alter egos merged with real identities, and everyone had a laugh.

Identities, and everyone had a laugh. [ slurping ]

Laugh. [ slurping ] ahh!

[ slurping ] ahh! Mmm.

Ahh! Mmm. [ up-tempo dance music plays ]

>> ♪ there's a party in the house, and we'll be rocking tonight ♪

In the house, and we'll be rocking tonight ♪ ♪ so, bring your body

And we'll be rocking tonight ♪ ♪ so, bring your body with you, baby,

♪ so, bring your body with you, baby, and I'll make you feel right ♪

With you, baby, and I'll make you feel right ♪ ♪ it's a freaky celebration

And I'll make you feel right ♪ ♪ it's a freaky celebration of a natural kind ♪

♪ it's a freaky celebration of a natural kind ♪ ♪ and the pleasure

Of a natural kind ♪ ♪ and the pleasure you'll experience

♪ and the pleasure you'll experience will blow your mind ♪

You'll experience will blow your mind ♪ >> I participated in all of the

Will blow your mind ♪ >> I participated in all of the dancing and rolling around on

>> I participated in all of the dancing and rolling around on the floor and stuff.

Dancing and rolling around on the floor and stuff. >> there was a moment where we

The floor and stuff. >> there was a moment where we had a video conference with a

>> there was a moment where we had a video conference with a dolphin, and everyone acted like

Had a video conference with a dolphin, and everyone acted like they knew what he was saying,

Dolphin, and everyone acted like they knew what he was saying, or at least everybody on the

They knew what he was saying, or at least everybody on the jejune institute staff.

Or at least everybody on the jejune institute staff. >> the seminar ended with all of

Jejune institute staff. >> the seminar ended with all of us getting under three big

>> the seminar ended with all of us getting under three big parachutes and doing one of

Us getting under three big parachutes and doing one of those group exercises where you

Parachutes and doing one of those group exercises where you bring the parachute up and let

Those group exercises where you bring the parachute up and let it fall down and bring it up and

Bring the parachute up and let it fall down and bring it up and let it fall down.

It fall down and bring it up and let it fall down. And then you sort of get into

Let it fall down. And then you sort of get into this womblike state, where

And then you sort of get into this womblike state, where you're laying down.

This womblike state, where you're laying down. And carolee was right next to

You're laying down. And carolee was right next to me.

And carolee was right next to me. I felt very safe.

Me. I felt very safe. And right then, somebody from

I felt very safe. And right then, somebody from the jejune institute either

And right then, somebody from the jejune institute either moved a chair or just got a

The jejune institute either moved a chair or just got a little bit too close and kicked

Moved a chair or just got a little bit too close and kicked me in the head, like, really

Little bit too close and kicked me in the head, like, really hard.

Me in the head, like, really hard. [ laughs ]

Hard. [ laughs ] and that ended up being a pretty

[ laughs ] and that ended up being a pretty good way of summing up my entire

And that ended up being a pretty good way of summing up my entire experience at the

Good way of summing up my entire experience at the jejune institute.

Experience at the jejune institute. >> and allow yourself to stretch

Jejune institute. >> and allow yourself to stretch and to touch each other and to

>> and allow yourself to stretch and to touch each other and to touch the biofiber that's all

And to touch each other and to touch the biofiber that's all around you and reconnect to life

Touch the biofiber that's all around you and reconnect to life as you ought to live it!

Around you and reconnect to life as you ought to live it! And breathe deep of the

As you ought to live it! And breathe deep of the succulence of your life, this

And breathe deep of the succulence of your life, this transformed life, and make your

Succulence of your life, this transformed life, and make your way beyond the perimeter of the

Transformed life, and make your way beyond the perimeter of the chute.

Way beyond the perimeter of the chute. Ahh!

Chute. Ahh! And join us.

Ahh! And join us. Join our people.

>> so, do we still think that this is just a game? [ chuckles ]

This is just a game? [ chuckles ] let's talk about reality and

[ chuckles ] let's talk about reality and illusion.

Let's talk about reality and illusion. Are you pretending to be here,

Illusion. Are you pretending to be here, hmm?

Are you pretending to be here, hmm? I am not.

Hmm? I am not. I am present, right here, right

I am not. I am present, right here, right now.

I am present, right here, right now. And I feel your presence, too,

Now. And I feel your presence, too, all of you.

And I feel your presence, too, all of you. Perhaps this very moment is us

All of you. Perhaps this very moment is us waking from the dream,

Perhaps this very moment is us waking from the dream, collectively awakening.

Waking from the dream, collectively awakening. Aha!

Collectively awakening. Aha! That feels good, doesn't it?

Aha! That feels good, doesn't it? Remember the day you walked into

That feels good, doesn't it? Remember the day you walked into the induction center?

Remember the day you walked into the induction center? I promised you two things.

The induction center? I promised you two things. One...

I promised you two things. One... That you'd begin to notice the

One... That you'd begin to notice the divine occurring all around you

That you'd begin to notice the divine occurring all around you in a thousand miniscule ways.

Divine occurring all around you in a thousand miniscule ways. And two...

In a thousand miniscule ways. And two... For those dark horses with the

And two... For those dark horses with the spirit to look up and see, a

For those dark horses with the spirit to look up and see, a recondite family awaits.

Spirit to look up and see, a recondite family awaits. Look around you.

Recondite family awaits. Look around you. We are that family.

Look around you. We are that family. And this?

We are that family. And this? This is only the beginning.

And this? This is only the beginning. Okay.

This is only the beginning. Okay. Lock the doors and release the

Okay. Lock the doors and release the poisonous gas, please.

Lock the doors and release the poisonous gas, please. Huh?

Poisonous gas, please. Huh? Scared you, didn't I?

Huh? Scared you, didn't I? [ chuckles ]

Scared you, didn't I? [ chuckles ] well, guess what?

[ chuckles ] well, guess what? [ laughter ]

Well, guess what? [ laughter ] yes. Thank you.

[ laughter ] yes. Thank you. I get scared, too.

Yes. Thank you. I get scared, too. Even I didn't know what was

I get scared, too. Even I didn't know what was going to happen here today.

Even I didn't know what was going to happen here today. I acknowledge how far you all

Going to happen here today. I acknowledge how far you all have come, and I honor you.

I acknowledge how far you all have come, and I honor you. Eva bless.

Have come, and I honor you. Eva bless. Thank you.

>> carolee turns to me, and she says, "we lost. We did it wrong.

Says, "we lost. We did it wrong. We lost. We lost the game."

We did it wrong. We lost. We lost the game." and I felt so much like

We lost. We lost the game." and I felt so much like charlie bucket, that there was

And I felt so much like charlie bucket, that there was something that we had -- over

Charlie bucket, that there was something that we had -- over the course of the day, we were

Something that we had -- over the course of the day, we were supposed to do something with

The course of the day, we were supposed to do something with the coins maybe that we didn't

Supposed to do something with the coins maybe that we didn't do.

The coins maybe that we didn't do. >> I just -- I felt like it was

Do. >> I just -- I felt like it was stopped short, like this

>> I just -- I felt like it was stopped short, like this wonderful arc had just gone

Stopped short, like this wonderful arc had just gone poof! And fallen into the

Wonderful arc had just gone poof! And fallen into the ground.

Poof! And fallen into the ground. I'm kind of ashamed to admit it,

Ground. I'm kind of ashamed to admit it, but I went into kind of a

I'm kind of ashamed to admit it, but I went into kind of a monthlong, like, funk

But I went into kind of a monthlong, like, funk afterwards, because I felt like

Monthlong, like, funk afterwards, because I felt like I had been duped.

Afterwards, because I felt like I had been duped. >> if we had taken action, it

I had been duped. >> if we had taken action, it would be very real, very weird

>> if we had taken action, it would be very real, very weird action.

Would be very real, very weird action. I don't think anybody wanted to

Action. I don't think anybody wanted to do that.

I don't think anybody wanted to do that. Everybody wanted to be

Do that. Everybody wanted to be entertained.

Everybody wanted to be entertained. So, it just felt like, "man, the

Entertained. So, it just felt like, "man, the book was good, but the ending

So, it just felt like, "man, the book was good, but the ending was weird."

Book was good, but the ending was weird." you know, that doesn't change

Was weird." you know, that doesn't change the fact that I really enjoyed

You know, that doesn't change the fact that I really enjoyed the story.

The fact that I really enjoyed the story. >> I think it's the organeil

The story. >> I think it's the organeil factor.

>> I think it's the organeil factor. Nobody wanted to -- who wants to

Factor. Nobody wanted to -- who wants to attack an old man?

Nobody wanted to -- who wants to attack an old man? You know?

Attack an old man? You know? He's an actor, you know?

You know? He's an actor, you know? I'm gonna take it that

He's an actor, you know? I'm gonna take it that seriously.

I'm gonna take it that seriously. >> I think if you looked up

Seriously. >> I think if you looked up "jejune" in the dictionary, you

>> I think if you looked up "jejune" in the dictionary, you would find that it is -- like, a

"jejune" in the dictionary, you would find that it is -- like, a jejune endeavor is a pointless

Would find that it is -- like, a jejune endeavor is a pointless endeavor that will never

Jejune endeavor is a pointless endeavor that will never actually get anywhere.

Endeavor that will never actually get anywhere. You know?

Actually get anywhere. You know? I think maybe what they really

You know? I think maybe what they really missed was exactly what was kind

I think maybe what they really missed was exactly what was kind of fulfilled at the end.

Missed was exactly what was kind of fulfilled at the end. >> I mean, there's a moment when

Of fulfilled at the end. >> I mean, there's a moment when wile coyote runs off that cliff

>> I mean, there's a moment when wile coyote runs off that cliff and wheels his legs for a minute

Wile coyote runs off that cliff and wheels his legs for a minute and looks down before he falls

And wheels his legs for a minute and looks down before he falls and has that pause midair,

And looks down before he falls and has that pause midair, suspended by nothing but his own

And has that pause midair, suspended by nothing but his own momentum, before he collapses.

Suspended by nothing but his own momentum, before he collapses. And I'm not sure in this moment

Momentum, before he collapses. And I'm not sure in this moment whether I'm referring to jeff or

And I'm not sure in this moment whether I'm referring to jeff or to the players, but there was

Whether I'm referring to jeff or to the players, but there was that moment throughout that day.

To the players, but there was that moment throughout that day. I think maybe if you don't look

That moment throughout that day. I think maybe if you don't look down, you'll never fall.

I think maybe if you don't look down, you'll never fall. >> there was this sense that

Down, you'll never fall. >> there was this sense that people were expecting this final

>> there was this sense that people were expecting this final event to play out in a

People were expecting this final event to play out in a science-fiction and fantasy

Event to play out in a science-fiction and fantasy realm in which there were

Science-fiction and fantasy realm in which there were shootouts and chases and things.

Realm in which there were shootouts and chases and things. And I think there was an element

Shootouts and chases and things. And I think there was an element of wanting to punish those

And I think there was an element of wanting to punish those players who seemed to be missing

Of wanting to punish those players who seemed to be missing what the real story was, and

Players who seemed to be missing what the real story was, and that was about eva.

What the real story was, and that was about eva. >> back in the late 1980s, I was

That was about eva. >> back in the late 1980s, I was a runaway.

>> back in the late 1980s, I was a runaway. I made my way eventually to

A runaway. I made my way eventually to san francisco.

I made my way eventually to san francisco. And the coit tower seemed to me

San francisco. And the coit tower seemed to me like some kind of a spiritual

And the coit tower seemed to me like some kind of a spiritual lightning rod or something.

Like some kind of a spiritual lightning rod or something. So, I started hanging around

Lightning rod or something. So, I started hanging around there.

So, I started hanging around there. To occupy myself, I began to

There. To occupy myself, I began to make little art projects --

To occupy myself, I began to make little art projects -- animals or mosaics.

Make little art projects -- animals or mosaics. And eventually I started making

Animals or mosaics. And eventually I started making these little scenes in the

And eventually I started making these little scenes in the crevices in the stone walls.

These little scenes in the crevices in the stone walls. One of them was this scene with

Crevices in the stone walls. One of them was this scene with a camp, kind of a hobo train car

One of them was this scene with a camp, kind of a hobo train car and some street kids gathering

A camp, kind of a hobo train car and some street kids gathering together.

And some street kids gathering together. A few days later, I found that

Together. A few days later, I found that someone else had added a new

A few days later, I found that someone else had added a new scene, which was this beautiful

Someone else had added a new scene, which was this beautiful scene that was also kind of

Scene, which was this beautiful scene that was also kind of spooky.

Scene that was also kind of spooky. There were flowers and a tree

Spooky. There were flowers and a tree and a ship in the background

There were flowers and a tree and a ship in the background with some strange kind of

And a ship in the background with some strange kind of pilgrims there.

With some strange kind of pilgrims there. A couple of days after that, I

Pilgrims there. A couple of days after that, I was starting a new one, and I

A couple of days after that, I was starting a new one, and I made this sort of room or stage

Was starting a new one, and I made this sort of room or stage and left it mostly unfinished.

Made this sort of room or stage and left it mostly unfinished. The next day, I hid nearby and

And left it mostly unfinished. The next day, I hid nearby and watched.

The next day, I hid nearby and watched. This girl came, and she added a

Watched. This girl came, and she added a light and the letters "e" and

This girl came, and she added a light and the letters "e" and "w" down by the door.

Light and the letters "e" and "w" down by the door. Then, she put these birds in, as

"w" down by the door. Then, she put these birds in, as if the light was lifting them

Then, she put these birds in, as if the light was lifting them into the sky.

If the light was lifting them into the sky. I think that's when I felt safe

Into the sky. I think that's when I felt safe enough, finally, to approach

I think that's when I felt safe enough, finally, to approach her.

Enough, finally, to approach her. And we met that day and became

Her. And we met that day and became friends.

And we met that day and became friends. She asked me if I understood

Friends. She asked me if I understood about the light, about those

She asked me if I understood about the light, about those letters, about a place she

About the light, about those letters, about a place she called "elsewhere," a way of

Letters, about a place she called "elsewhere," a way of being and playing in the world

Called "elsewhere," a way of being and playing in the world that somehow changed everything,

Being and playing in the world that somehow changed everything, a game, sort of, but without any

That somehow changed everything, a game, sort of, but without any rules, a way of being in the

A game, sort of, but without any rules, a way of being in the world that was powerful and

Rules, a way of being in the world that was powerful and enchanted.

World that was powerful and enchanted. >> I met eva after a show at the

Enchanted. >> I met eva after a show at the stone on broadway, and she ended

>> I met eva after a show at the stone on broadway, and she ended up crashing at my parents' house

Stone on broadway, and she ended up crashing at my parents' house for about a month in the garage.

Up crashing at my parents' house for about a month in the garage. And it was during those times

For about a month in the garage. And it was during those times that she and I would meditate.

And it was during those times that she and I would meditate. It was kind of a form of

That she and I would meditate. It was kind of a form of meditation, and she would guide

It was kind of a form of meditation, and she would guide me down these paths towards this

Meditation, and she would guide me down these paths towards this placed called "elsewhere."

Me down these paths towards this placed called "elsewhere." and elsewhere was neither here

Placed called "elsewhere." and elsewhere was neither here nor there, and it was this

And elsewhere was neither here nor there, and it was this entire universe and this entire

Nor there, and it was this entire universe and this entire tribe and with this imagined

Entire universe and this entire tribe and with this imagined history.

Tribe and with this imagined history. It was very intricate and

History. It was very intricate and detailed and went back a long

It was very intricate and detailed and went back a long way.

Detailed and went back a long way. I think that, like every bit of

Way. I think that, like every bit of art or creativity that I produce

I think that, like every bit of art or creativity that I produce is in some way inspired by her.

Art or creativity that I produce is in some way inspired by her. It was during the time that I

Is in some way inspired by her. It was during the time that I was in treatment that she went

It was during the time that I was in treatment that she went missing, and it wasn't totally

Was in treatment that she went missing, and it wasn't totally unusual, you know, for her to

Missing, and it wasn't totally unusual, you know, for her to skip out for a little while.

Unusual, you know, for her to skip out for a little while. But then there began to be these

Skip out for a little while. But then there began to be these theories of either an abduction

But then there began to be these theories of either an abduction or a suicide, and I don't think

Theories of either an abduction or a suicide, and I don't think it was suicide.

Or a suicide, and I don't think it was suicide. >> you know, there's the

It was suicide. >> you know, there's the algorithm, right, that

>> you know, there's the algorithm, right, that blair lucien came up with.

Algorithm, right, that blair lucien came up with. I think we got a glimpse, a

Blair lucien came up with. I think we got a glimpse, a little glimpse, of the algorithm

I think we got a glimpse, a little glimpse, of the algorithm in action in the sense that

Little glimpse, of the algorithm in action in the sense that there were moments where the

In action in the sense that there were moments where the ordinary world was transformed

There were moments where the ordinary world was transformed into something different,

Ordinary world was transformed into something different, something full of potential and

Into something different, something full of potential and full of mystery in a way that we

Something full of potential and full of mystery in a way that we don't usually experience.

Full of mystery in a way that we don't usually experience. >> I don't know if there is a

Don't usually experience. >> I don't know if there is a conclusion.

>> I don't know if there is a conclusion. I don't know how it ended.

Conclusion. I don't know how it ended. I never looked up on the message

I don't know how it ended. I never looked up on the message boards or anything or really

I never looked up on the message boards or anything or really necessarily asked anyone.

Boards or anything or really necessarily asked anyone. So, for me, it could still be

Necessarily asked anyone. So, for me, it could still be happening.

So, for me, it could still be happening. And I know they closed down the

Happening. And I know they closed down the building, but as far as I know,

And I know they closed down the building, but as far as I know, the war is still being waged on

Building, but as far as I know, the war is still being waged on the street.

The war is still being waged on the street. And that's fun.

The street. And that's fun. It's fun that way.

And that's fun. It's fun that way. >> I do miss the

It's fun that way. >> I do miss the jejune institute a lot, and I

>> I do miss the jejune institute a lot, and I still talk to people about it.

Jejune institute a lot, and I still talk to people about it. People -- well, I have a dog,

Still talk to people about it. People -- well, I have a dog, and her name is jejune.

People -- well, I have a dog, and her name is jejune. >> yeah, definitely this is

And her name is jejune. >> yeah, definitely this is playful.

>> yeah, definitely this is playful. The experience is a lot of fun.

Playful. The experience is a lot of fun. But I think the underlying

The experience is a lot of fun. But I think the underlying messages are real.

But I think the underlying messages are real. So, in that respect, is it a

Messages are real. So, in that respect, is it a game?

So, in that respect, is it a game? I don't really know.

Game? I don't really know. >> if you don't have religion,

I don't really know. >> if you don't have religion, you don't have that built-in

>> if you don't have religion, you don't have that built-in explanation.

You don't have that built-in explanation. Finding something that tells you

Explanation. Finding something that tells you there is all of this amazing

Finding something that tells you there is all of this amazing stuff happening, and you just

There is all of this amazing stuff happening, and you just need to know how to find it --

Stuff happening, and you just need to know how to find it -- it is a little bit like having

Need to know how to find it -- it is a little bit like having something to believe in.

>> today, you've glimpsed into the elsewhere and felt for a moment what it's like to be

The elsewhere and felt for a moment what it's like to be here.

Moment what it's like to be here. And it's only a small taste of

Here. And it's only a small taste of what's to come.