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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,400 Language, literature, art, philosophy, politics, 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:06,000 architecture, sport, culture - 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:10,200 the very bones, sinews, muscles, and life blood of our modern world 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:14,080 are often said to be indebted to the Ancient Greeks. 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,680 But scratch the surface of that culture 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,120 and you find, amidst the democracy, the philosophy and the literature, 7 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,200 what can seem to us a seething tornado 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:24,640 of alien, 9 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,080 unsettling 10 00:00:26,080 --> 00:00:30,560 and sometimes downright outrageous customs and beliefs. 11 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,640 I'm Dr Michael Scott. 12 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,720 As an Assistant Professor of Classics and Ancient History, 13 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,960 I study the strange world of the Ancient Greeks. 14 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,960 In these two programmes, I'll be asking two big questions. 15 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:45,600 How did they live? 16 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,440 And what have they given us? 17 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,080 HE SPEAKS IN ANCIENT GREEK 18 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,760 In this programme, I'll be finding out who these people were. 19 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,120 The Ancient Greeks who invented democracy 20 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,720 but who engaged in wrestling matches sometimes to the death. 21 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,200 What were their lives like? 22 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,240 They came up with the Olympics 23 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,040 but dined on a filthy mix of vinegar and blood soup. 24 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:15,520 A tough food for tough men. 25 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,200 They gave us philosophy 26 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:22,360 but were happy to abandon newborn babies outside their city walls. 27 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,400 How did this mix of the bizarre and the familiar 28 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,440 create such an impressive civilisation? 29 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,880 I want to find out, who were the Greeks? 30 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:52,000 I'm in the hills above a place that changed the world. 31 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,320 It doesn't look that impressive today, 32 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,680 scattered with modern houses and beach hotels. 33 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,440 But down there on that very shore, one of the most important 34 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,880 battles in history was fought and won by the Ancient Greeks. 35 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,440 In 490 BC, a relatively small Greek force, 36 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,640 took position down there on the plain of Marathon to face up 37 00:02:13,640 --> 00:02:16,520 against a vast invading Persian army. 38 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:21,600 There were around 10,000 Greeks and probably 25,000 to 30,000 Persians, 39 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,320 although some of the sources talk about hundreds of thousands. 40 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,200 The Greeks were outnumbered... 41 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,880 ..and supposedly totally outmatched. 42 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,520 But they were fighting for their freedom. 43 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:43,000 By 490 BC, when the Greeks were facing the Persians at Marathon, 44 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,120 they had already invented the world's first democracy. 45 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,320 Greek architecture, art, philosophy and medicine were flourishing too. 46 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,640 But all of this could have been wiped out 47 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:55,200 with a sweep of the Persian sword. 48 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,200 There was a huge amount at stake. 49 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,680 But at Marathon, the Greeks broke all the rules of battle 50 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:03,960 in order to win. 51 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,600 They ran at the Persian line, taking them by surprise. 52 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,160 The Greeks did not normally run into battle in those days. 53 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,840 It was an extraordinary thing for them to do. 54 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:23,000 After the Battle of Marathon, Miltiades, the Athenian general, 55 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:27,040 travelled to the sacred site of Olympia to make offerings of thanks 56 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,720 to the gods for their miraculous victory against the Persians. 57 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,560 And in the Sanctuary of Zeus, 58 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:37,040 he dedicated possibly the very helmet he wore in battle to the god. 59 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,840 This is Miltiades' helmet. 60 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,200 And we know this because the helmet is inscribed 61 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,440 "Miltiades anetheken to Dii", 62 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,960 "Miltiades dedicated this to the god Zeus". 63 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:56,120 For me, there's no better way of getting up close and personal 64 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,920 with history two and a half thousand years ago 65 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,200 than standing in front of this incredible object. 66 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,760 But this object right next to it tells a very different story. 67 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,120 It's a helmet, but you can see the difference in styles. 68 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,760 This is a Persian helmet. 69 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,800 And what it's doing here, well, again, 70 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,880 an inscription tells us the story. Here it is. 71 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:21,520 "Di", to the gods, "athenioa", the Athenians, 72 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:26,280 "medon", the Persians, "labontes", took it. 73 00:04:26,280 --> 00:04:30,240 The Athenians took this helmet, probably off a dead Persian, 74 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,280 and dedicated it to their gods. 75 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,600 So what does this tell us? 76 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,920 There was more to Ancient Greece than the traditional image 77 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,880 we might have in our minds of philosophy, politics and art. 78 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:47,200 The Greeks were ferocious warriors, they took battle trophies, 79 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,440 and were quite happy to put thousands of their enemies 80 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:51,560 to the sword. 81 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,880 The political philosopher, John Stuart Mill, 82 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,800 once claimed Marathon was more important 83 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:05,000 in the story of English history than the Battle of Hastings. 84 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,440 If the Greeks had not won that day, 85 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,120 our world would be unrecognisably different. 86 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:12,840 Who were these people 87 00:05:12,840 --> 00:05:15,760 who accomplished such an extraordinary victory? 88 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,120 In the fifth century BC, when the Greeks fought at Marathon, 89 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,160 Greece's political organisation was very unusual. 90 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,200 Its population was divided by mountain ranges 91 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,880 and dotted across myriad islands. 92 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,560 It was a patchwork of thousands of small territories 93 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,920 rather than anything resembling a nation. 94 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,080 Ancient Greece was composed of a huge number of tribes, 95 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,680 monarchies and city-states, called "polis". 96 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,200 Now these weren't anything like our modern cities today. 97 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,680 They were much more country towns or villages 98 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,240 surrounded by an amount of territory that provided the community 99 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,480 with, by and large, everything they needed - olives, grain, animals. 100 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,320 And most of them were fairly small. 101 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,000 One area of Ancient Greece, Boeotia, 102 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,880 which is a bit smaller than our Kent, 103 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:14,040 there were 12 of these independent city states sitting side-by-side 104 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,880 but every one of them, whatever size, had their own traditions, 105 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,560 their own laws, their own ideas about how things should be done. 106 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,160 Every one of them had their own unique identity. 107 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:28,880 More often than not, 108 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,520 the Ancient Greeks referred to the Athenians, 109 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,360 the Spartans or the Corinthians, 110 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,240 rather than talking about Athens, Sparta or Corinth. 111 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,240 They spoke of communities made up of people 112 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,680 rather than cities made up of buildings. 113 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,760 How did this mosaic of independent communities link together? 114 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,000 Well, one of the ways they did it was through alliances. 115 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,800 This is a copy of a bronze tablet 116 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,880 that was originally discovered in 1813 117 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,920 and it would have been fixed to a wall. 118 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:58,960 These are nail holes here and here. 119 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,680 And it details an alliance, a treaty alliance between two city states. 120 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,040 That of Elis in the Peloponnese and Haria in Arcadia. 121 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,120 But the terms of the alliance are fascinating. 122 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,720 It's a treaty for 100 years and it works like this - 123 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,280 if one city goes to war, the other city state will join in. 124 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,360 If someone makes war on one of the city states, 125 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,160 the other will come to its aid. 126 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:20,640 And there was a fine 127 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,520 if one of the city states doesn't live up to its obligations. 128 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:28,000 A talent - 6,000 days' pay which had to be paid over to Olympian Zeus. 129 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,680 The truth was that each independent polis needed treaties and alliances 130 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,880 because the city states of Ancient Greece 131 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,160 were almost constantly at war with one another. 132 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,720 They fought over land, they had long-running feuds 133 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,040 and bitter rivalries for power. 134 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,200 Every man grew up knowing how to fight 135 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:50,840 and was instilled with a deep desire to win, no matter what the cost. 136 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:55,160 At the Battle of Marathon, the reality was that only the Athenians 137 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:59,200 and their allies, the Plataeans, turned up to fight the Persians. 138 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,720 It was one loose alliance that saved the whole of Greece. 139 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,640 Winning was everything in Ancient Greece, second place meant nothing. 140 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,720 Pindar who wrote victory odes for Olympic winners wrote one 141 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:17,080 in which he gloats about how a loser will be shunned by their mother 142 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,960 and have to creep around in the back streets, 143 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,160 "Nor returning to their mothers 144 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,640 "did sweet laughter arouse joy around them, 145 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,080 "but down the alleys they slunk, 146 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,080 "keeping aloof from their enemies, bitten by defeat." 147 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:32,960 Success was everything. 148 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,600 In a world in which only wealth, breeding or achievement 149 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,000 could really distinguish you, 150 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,480 the thing you could do most about was achievement. 151 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,720 You had to fight and you had to win. 152 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,200 Within the city states of Ancient Greece, 153 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:51,160 if you were a man and a citizen, you had a great deal of responsibility. 154 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,000 All citizens had to serve as soldiers 155 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,960 because there was no professional army. 156 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,800 Because all citizens had to be battle-ready, 157 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:06,680 a good deal of any spare time was spent keeping fit in Ancient Greece. 158 00:09:06,680 --> 00:09:10,360 And the Greeks were extremely competitive about it. 159 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,480 Today, at the Olympic Centre in Athens, 160 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,040 there is still a legacy 161 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,400 of one of the most brutal forms of Ancient Greek combat sport. 162 00:09:18,560 --> 00:09:23,560 The no-holds barred Pankration is still practised here. 163 00:09:23,560 --> 00:09:26,480 Pankration was a sport in the ancient Olympics, 164 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,080 but it was also used in battle. 165 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,240 When the Greeks were disarmed, when they lost their weapons, 166 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,040 they could still fight to the death using this sport. 167 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,440 Competition was at the core of the Greek psyche. 168 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:44,680 The Greek word for "competition" is "agon" - our "agony". 169 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:48,760 A Syrian writer named Lucian 170 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,280 wrote a guide to Greece for foreigners in the second century AD, 171 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,440 and he said that the Greek obsession with competition 172 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,280 bordered on insanity. 173 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,720 'Pankration still looks pretty dangerous today, 174 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:02,960 'but I'm here to give it a try.' 175 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:08,040 I understand Pankration as part of the ancient world. 176 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:09,680 What does it mean to you? 177 00:10:09,680 --> 00:10:11,800 We are very proud to do this sport. 178 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,960 We love it, we do it every day. 179 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,320 So it's a part of our life. 180 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,200 In the ancient world Pankration was thought of 181 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,040 as the most difficult sport, the toughest, 182 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,680 almost no rules whatsoever. 183 00:10:24,680 --> 00:10:26,680 Is it like that today? 184 00:10:26,680 --> 00:10:28,760 No, today we have rules. 185 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,800 Would you show me some moves? You will be gentle? 186 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,240 Yes, of course. Don't be afraid. OK. 187 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:36,280 You can do this move. 188 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,840 OK, yeah. It's impossible to move. 189 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,720 You cannot move when you're down here. 190 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:53,920 It's very difficult. 191 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,600 'All the throws and moves in modern Pankration 192 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,280 'come from the ancient sport. 193 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,480 'It's an incredibly effective martial art.' 194 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:06,960 Wow. 195 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,440 So you can throw someone of any weight? Yes. 196 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,480 It doesn't matter how heavy or tall they are? 197 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,680 No, it's about technique. Amazing. 198 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,280 'The fact that the Greeks developed and competed in sports 199 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,400 'that doubled as battle tactics, 200 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:28,280 'marked out the militaristic nature of their society. 201 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,400 'Yet there were some in Ancient Greece 202 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,360 'who took the idea of military training and combat to the extreme.' 203 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,000 If you want to know how tough life could be in Ancient Greece, 204 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:44,320 you have to look at Sparta - a place of wild mountains and deep forests. 205 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,960 In Ancient Greece, nobody was tougher than the famous Spartans. 206 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,040 We still use their name today in our word "spartan" 207 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,240 meaning simple, austere, frugal. 208 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:59,320 But Spartan society went a lot further than just austerity, 209 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,400 it was a society where you had to survive in the wild 210 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:06,560 and fight for life from the moment you were born. 211 00:12:06,560 --> 00:12:09,120 Sparta was essentially a military society. 212 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,520 Boys were taken away from their families aged six, 213 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:12,960 and taught in packs. 214 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,000 They were subjected to rigorous training, 215 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,640 to make them soldiers and also punished with things like whipping 216 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,360 for even minor offences, 217 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:24,840 and there they became used to the incredible intensity of observation 218 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:26,800 that defined Spartan society. 219 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,400 One source tells us that 220 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:32,360 a Spartan's body was checked for physical perfection every ten days. 221 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,920 The Spartans strove to be perfect warriors, 222 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,800 they sought glory in battle and to instil fear in their enemies. 223 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,040 They were a ruthless fighting force. 224 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,680 Spartan warriors, when going into battle, wore a red cloak, 225 00:12:46,680 --> 00:12:48,120 much like this one. 226 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,280 Now, you might think it's a bit luxurious for those hardy Spartans 227 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,640 to have a nice red cloak but, the way they explained it was that, 228 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,680 the red colour covered up the sight of their blood 229 00:12:58,680 --> 00:13:01,480 if they were bleeding on the battlefield. 230 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:06,200 If you saw these, you knew you were facing Spartans. 231 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,360 You knew you were facing soldiers trained within a society 232 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:14,200 that was tuned to the highest pitch of competition, obedience 233 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:15,720 and self mastery. 234 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:18,760 'Tough Spartan training 235 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,840 'and the Spartan way of life is still admired today. 236 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,360 'I've arranged to meet some modern-day Spartan re-enactors, 237 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,920 'who have agreed not to beat me or check me for physical perfection, 238 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,400 'but they have cooked up an ancient Spartan recipe for me to try.' 239 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,640 So, Spiro, what are we making here? 240 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,560 OK, this is the black broth. 241 00:13:39,560 --> 00:13:45,240 It's the typical food for the Spartan fighter. 242 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:51,680 It is a food that is adapted to the military lifestyle of the time. 243 00:13:51,680 --> 00:13:53,680 Does that mean it doesn't taste very nice? 244 00:13:53,680 --> 00:13:55,120 It tastes horrible. 245 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,880 The main reason because it's called black broth 246 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:04,280 is that it has a lot of pig blood. 247 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,920 OK, so what else? 248 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:13,920 It has barley flour, it has salt, it has vinegar, it also has pork meat. 249 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,920 OK, I've heard a story about this food 250 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:24,440 that a man from Sybaris, a man from Sybaris in southern Italy, 251 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,240 said that once he'd tried this 252 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:31,680 he understood why Spartans were so willing to die on the battlefield. 253 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,720 That is correct, that it correct. 254 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,520 Because it tasted so horrible. Yes. Right. 255 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,640 THEY LAUGH 256 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,720 I think I might be with Sybaris on this. 257 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,160 You can taste the vinegar, that's really strong. 258 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,040 And the thickness of the barley. 259 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,080 But you can taste the blood as well. 260 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,120 Yes, there is a small taste of blood. 261 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:09,400 This is a, you can say, a tough food for tough men. 262 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,880 It strengthens the mentality of those people 263 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,200 and it makes them feel they were strong. 264 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,440 Spartans had to compete constantly, carry out orders, 265 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,400 test themselves to the limits of their endurance. 266 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:29,200 And it wasn't just the men, it was also the women. 267 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,840 This is a replica of an ancient bronze statuette of a Spartan girl. 268 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:36,720 And it sums up everything you need to know about the women of Sparta. 269 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:37,920 The key detail is here. 270 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:39,440 Look at her pulling up her skirt 271 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,160 to reveal her thigh so that she can run faster. 272 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,760 That's exactly what the ancient Athenians 273 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,600 labelled Spartan women as - thigh-flashers. 274 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,520 They talked about their intolerable, unrespectable behaviour, 275 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,560 not least because Spartan women were out there as young girls 276 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,960 training, wrestling with one another in order to become as fit 277 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,480 as they possibly could to be the perfect mother. 278 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,560 But what the Spartans thought was a perfect mother, 279 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,200 would not be a perfect mother to us today. 280 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:12,440 Spartan mothers had to be prepared to give up their babies 281 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:16,280 for examination by the Spartan council of elders. 282 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,360 And if the elders thought the child was imperfect, 283 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,160 it would not be allowed to live. 284 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:26,280 Here in Sparta, if a child was judged weak or unhealthy in any way, 285 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,440 then its father was ordered to carry it to the slopes of Mount Taygetos 286 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,760 and leave it to die. 287 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,000 Because as the ancient sources say, 288 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:38,000 "The life which nature has not provided with health and strength 289 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,880 "can be of no use to itself or to the state." 290 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,360 This practice of infant exposure, 291 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,760 leaving babies to die if they weren't considered strong enough, 292 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,320 didn't just happen in Sparta either. 293 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:58,440 It was allegedly practised all over Ancient Greece, even in Athens, 294 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:03,000 the birthplace of our modern sense of democracy and freedom. 295 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,680 It's estimated that the rate of female exposure was perhaps 296 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,080 as high as 10% in Athens. 297 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:13,000 Baby girls were certainly abandoned more frequently than boys. 298 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,120 Sons could grow up to become citizens, 299 00:17:15,120 --> 00:17:17,000 they could fight for their polis 300 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,440 and did not need to be provided with a dowry. 301 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,720 A comic writer of the third century BC wrote, 302 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:25,960 "If you have a son you bring him up, even if you're poor, 303 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,600 "but if you have a daughter, you abandon her, even if you're rich." 304 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:39,080 It seems shocking that a culture that we so much admire 305 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:43,560 practised what we would now call infanticide and eugenics. 306 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:47,120 But in the Athenian agora, the ancient city centre, 307 00:17:47,120 --> 00:17:49,880 a startling discovery was made in the 1930s 308 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,600 that helps us put these practices into context. 309 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,040 An ancient well full of baby bones was uncovered. 310 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:00,640 Today, archaeologists 311 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,400 at the American School of Classical Studies at Athens 312 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,080 have analysed the entire contents of the well. 313 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,080 'Osteologist, Dr Sherry Fox, 314 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,440 'has agreed to share some of their findings with me.' 315 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:17,760 How common is it to find a well full of bones in the ancient city? 316 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:22,920 This is a unique burial in that we have only the remains on infants, 317 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,080 for the most part, around 450. 318 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,960 It dates to the second century BC, 319 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:33,080 and from a fairly narrow window, we think around 15 years. 320 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:37,480 What sense can we get of what killed these children? 321 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:42,680 Well, prematurity for certain, I believe it's 15%. 322 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:47,600 We have also some other defects that we're not so certain about 323 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:52,280 and we found a number of cases of cleft palate. 324 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,760 We also have infection 325 00:18:55,760 --> 00:19:01,440 and here we have an example of infection on the back of the head. 326 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,040 This is the occipital bone. 327 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,200 It's the same bone that I have here 328 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:10,000 and often times we will see pitting within this area. 329 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:14,240 And what kind of infection creates this pitting on the skull? 330 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:18,360 Well, one of the more common infections is meningitis, 331 00:19:18,360 --> 00:19:20,920 and it's a problem today. 332 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,640 And was anything else found alongside the infants in the well? 333 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:31,200 Absolutely. In addition to those infants, we have about 150 dogs. 334 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,200 Yeah, those definitely aren't children's. 335 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:41,280 Dog burials are often associated with human burials 336 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,400 in many different cultures. 337 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,320 They look green, and the reason for that is, 338 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,680 in addition to the infants and the dogs, 339 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:54,120 about 18 kilograms of bronze were recovered from the well. 340 00:19:54,120 --> 00:19:57,520 Right, so this is the staining of the dog bones from the bronze. 341 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:58,520 It is. 342 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,560 So, what are we dealing with here? 343 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,240 Is it the family dog being thrown down the well 344 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:04,800 after the child has died? 345 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,520 It may be a sacrifice. 346 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,320 It's possible that it could be a sacrifice. 347 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:13,480 'In Ancient Greece, sacrifices were payments, almost bribes, 348 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,560 'to accompany your prayers to the gods 349 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,520 'if you wanted something to go well 350 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,040 'or if you wanted to rid yourself of bad luck.' 351 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,640 Socrates recorded that the people of Argos sacrificed female dogs 352 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,120 to ensure successful childbirth. 353 00:20:28,120 --> 00:20:32,440 Dogs were also sacrificed to Hecate, a goddess of the underworld, 354 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,120 who was accompanied by the souls of those who had died prematurely. 355 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,760 The dogs in the agora well may have been sacrificed 356 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,920 to accompany the babies to the underworld. 357 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,000 Or they might have been sacrifices 358 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,200 simply to help rid the midwives and families of the bad luck 359 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:53,160 associated with death and childbirth. We just don't know. 360 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,400 This extraordinary archaeological discovery, for me, 361 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,040 I think, focuses two absolutely crucial things. 362 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,080 The first is that in trying to understand 363 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,920 why you would throw dogs down a well after dead babies, 364 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,160 it really brings home to us just how different a world Ancient Greece 365 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,600 was to our own - how weird, alien and strange it should seem to us. 366 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,240 But the second is this, 367 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,320 those 450-odd babies were part of a bigger picture, 368 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,440 we estimate that something like 25% of babies 369 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,480 died in their first year in Ancient Greece. 370 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,680 And in that context, it can seem an anathema that the Greeks 371 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,680 would have wanted to add to that number 372 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,640 with the intentional exposure, 373 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,360 the intentional killing of more imperfect children. 374 00:21:32,360 --> 00:21:35,960 But I think the reality was very simple, 375 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,680 this was a harsh world in which only the fittest could survive 376 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,200 and anything or anyone else was a burden. 377 00:21:43,360 --> 00:21:47,000 The Greeks had to fight to survive from the day they were born. 378 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,880 You needed all the help you could get to survive in Ancient Greece 379 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,920 and that was why the Greeks constantly appealed to their gods, 380 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,640 many of them still famous today, like Zeus, god of thunder, 381 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,120 and Aphrodite, goddess of love. 382 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,040 The Greeks believed that the gods 383 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,320 were involved in every aspect of their lives. 384 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,040 Land, sea, harvest, love, wine-making, weaving - 385 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,840 you name it, and there was a Greek god behind it. 386 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,480 The best way I've heard of describing it is like this, 387 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,360 "The Greek gods spilled like clothes from an over-filled drawer 388 00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:25,880 "that no-one felt obliged to tidy." 389 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,640 And yet, at the same time, 390 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,080 those gods could be actively for you or against you. 391 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,120 And you had to do everything in your power to keep them on your side, 392 00:22:34,120 --> 00:22:37,440 to keep them well disposed towards you, to keep them happy. 393 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,840 There wasn't even a word for religion in Ancient Greece. 394 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,840 Worshipping the gods was so much a part of life 395 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,880 that it could not be considered separately. 396 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,760 But here's the paradox, 397 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,840 because alongside believing in a vast array of gods, the Greeks 398 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:57,720 were also fundamentally interested in scientific thought and medicine. 399 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,840 They were, in a way, rational and irrational all at the same time. 400 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,440 I'm on my way to Epidaurus, across the sea from Athens, 401 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,480 in the Peloponnese. 402 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,960 Epidaurus was a medical sanctuary where the Greeks came to be healed, 403 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,160 and it was a place where Greek religion and medicine 404 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:18,880 were perfectly combined. 405 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,680 There's no better symbol of the very curious, 406 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:28,160 but ultimately very successful, interweaving, of what are to us, 407 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:32,280 rational and irrational approaches to medicine, here at Epidaurus, 408 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:33,640 than these things. 409 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,520 These stelae that were put up right by the abaton. 410 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,600 The top line of the inscription here tells us what they are. 411 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,360 "Mata to Apollonos..." 412 00:23:44,360 --> 00:23:48,920 "The cures of the god Apollo and the god Asclepius." 413 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,520 And what follows are success stories, testimonials, 414 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,120 stelae of them. 415 00:23:53,120 --> 00:23:56,600 And on the one hand, some of them are absolutely fantastical. 416 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:01,360 The very first one - "Cleo, who was pregnant for five years, 417 00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:03,400 "came here and gave birth." 418 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,320 And it gets better because then, apparently, 419 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,280 her son got up immediately and washed himself in the fountain. 420 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,560 But on the other hand, some of them feel very real. 421 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,440 A man who had an arrow in his lung, 422 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:19,320 that had seeped 67 bowlfuls of pus before he got here, was cured. 423 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,560 And even those who came here disbelieving in the god Apollo 424 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,400 had their ailments cured. 425 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,760 'Here at Epidaurus, I've arranged to meet Dr Stefanos Geroulanos, 426 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,320 'a professor of surgery and a scholar of Ancient Greek medicine, 427 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,040 'to find out exactly how this sanctuary, 428 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,080 'with its gods and doctors, actually worked.' 429 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,120 They were offering to the gods, 430 00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:50,200 they were bringing some presents to ask to be cured. 431 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,440 And what sort of things would they offer? 432 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:53,440 Mainly food. 433 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,080 If there was something more important, 434 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,840 they would bring an animal and eventually sacrifice. 435 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,880 And this is the altar of Asclepius here, this is where they came to? 436 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,880 Definitely, it is the main altar and it is here 437 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,640 where they would offer what they had brought from home. 438 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,760 What would happen in the days after they had arrived 439 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,960 and made their initial sacrifices? 440 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,880 The physicians would take the history, 441 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,960 they would examine the patient and come to a diagnosis. 442 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:31,640 Then they would ask the patient that he has to sleep in the abaton. 443 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:36,920 In the night, the god would come with all his followers 444 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,600 and tell to the patient what he had to do to be cured. 445 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,000 It seems a little like 446 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,800 we've stepped over here from medicine into hallucination. 447 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,520 Do you think there were some kind of tricks that these people, 448 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,280 when they came to sleep in the abaton, 449 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,120 encouraged them to have these sorts of dreams? 450 00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:56,040 Definitely. 451 00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:00,000 They were giving them drinks, not with hallucination drugs, 452 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,520 but definitely to make them sleep. 453 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,560 The second thing that was extremely important, I think, 454 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:10,440 is that if the treatment, the first treatment, wouldn't work, 455 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,080 so what should we do? 456 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:17,680 God could not make a mistake. You didn't hear very well. 457 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:22,000 Go sleep again and then they could give the second treatment. 458 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,440 'It wasn't simply faith healing in the sanctuary at Epidaurus, 459 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,120 'Ancient Greek physicians administered cures 460 00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:30,120 'and even performed operations here. 461 00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:35,200 'And in his own private collection now on exhibition, Dr Geroulanos 462 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,360 'has examples of the tools which the ancient surgeons used. 463 00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:41,800 'I'm about to see an Ancient Greek medical kit.' 464 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,160 Stefanos, tell me about this array 465 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,400 of rather nasty-looking pieces of equipment here? 466 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,080 Let's start from the top, there are some knives and scalpels. 467 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,760 This one is to open up a small vein 468 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,200 to have blood letting out 469 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:04,880 and it was the only way to put your blood pressure down. 470 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:09,360 That one looks a little bit more than a small vein opener? 471 00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:14,120 It is there for a small amputation, it was very suitable. 472 00:27:14,120 --> 00:27:18,000 There's an incredible variety, of specialisation, of tool here. 473 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,320 Absolutely. Absolutely. 474 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,960 How would you judge this in terms of the sophistication 475 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:28,040 of the ancient surgery kit compared to the modern? 476 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:32,360 For example, the curettes are exactly the same today as they were before. 477 00:27:32,360 --> 00:27:37,560 The same is this spoon sort of a curette, exactly the same. 478 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:43,040 The hooks, and especially the sharp ones, are identical. 479 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,920 Really, obviously, we've advanced in terms of knowledge and technology, 480 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,240 but the bones of the kit are here. 481 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,040 It is like all tools. 482 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:58,480 When the tools reach a certain standard, they stay for ever. 483 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,320 I mean, think of the hammer. 484 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:01,960 And what are these? 485 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,600 These are cupping glasses. 486 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,240 I was going to say, I've never heard of a cupping glass, 487 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,000 I don't know what a cupping glass is. 488 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,920 You are too young. 489 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,120 I had them when I was a young boy, I had them on my back 490 00:28:14,120 --> 00:28:15,960 when I had a flu. 491 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:21,120 It was one of the best therapies at the time 492 00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:26,400 because it makes your immune response better. 493 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:31,600 You put some fire in, up to the end that the fire disappears, 494 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,080 so it has taken all the oxygen away. 495 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,760 And then you put it on the skin. 496 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,160 Now, having a vacuum, the skin goes up 497 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,400 and creates under the skin... 498 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:47,760 ..a dome. 499 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:53,040 The effect is that the body needs much more white blood cells 500 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,920 and it creates more, that they are not going only there, 501 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,800 but they go to your pri-monia, 502 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,880 or to another place where there is an infection. 503 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,560 So this is a device which sort of encourages the body 504 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,000 to go into overdrive and to get the immune system in overdrive. 505 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,000 Exactly, and they were used up to the 1960s. 506 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,920 'After their treatment in medical sanctuaries, 507 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,200 'the Greeks would also leave replicas 508 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:20,960 'of whatever parts of their body 509 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,400 'had been cured as offerings to the gods. 510 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,080 'And it would seem from the objects found that then, just as now, 511 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,520 'there was a fair degree of concern about a whole range of body parts. 512 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,560 'It might seem strange to make a public display 513 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,800 'of a part of your anatomy that had been afflicted. 514 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,000 'But the healing sanctuaries weren't the only places in Ancient Greece 515 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,120 'where your body could be seen. 516 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,360 'In the gym, nobody had a stitch on.' 517 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,960 Now our word "gymnasium" comes from the Greek word "gymnos" 518 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,600 which effectively means "naked". 519 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:52,640 So, in a sense, 520 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,320 to get the proper understanding of the word "gymnasium" 521 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,520 we should really be saying "nuditorium". 522 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,080 And that's the crucial point. 523 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,400 Here, in these spaces, Greek men were naked, 524 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,720 wrestling, exercising with one another. 525 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,480 And it will come as no surprise, that in such spaces, 526 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,800 given such nudity, given such close physical contact, 527 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,520 gymnasia were centres of sexual attraction in Ancient Greece. 528 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,400 And they were part of a much wider sexual landscape 529 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,240 which was very different to our own. 530 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,720 Looking around the Athens tourist market today, 531 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,480 it would seem that from the replicas on sale, 532 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,120 sex was the only thing on Ancient Greek minds. 533 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:33,480 And a lot of what they thought about sex seems to us very strange indeed. 534 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,760 The Greeks believed that sex was good for women 535 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,760 because it kept their wombs from drying out 536 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,560 and wandering around the body. 537 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,560 And, of course, from a male perspective, 538 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,080 it also supposedly kept them under better control. 539 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,320 So, according to the laws of Athens, Athenian men were supposed 540 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,840 to have sex with their wives at least three times a month. 541 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,760 And from the male perspective, though, 542 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,840 there were also lots of other options. 543 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,280 They could go with a high-class geisha girl prostitute 544 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:58,480 called a "hetaerae", 545 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,240 they could have a live-in lover mistress, a "palleacae", 546 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,400 or they could go to a brothel for a street prostitute, a "pornai". 547 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,000 Anal sex with their wives was repugnant 548 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,440 but with any of the other three, absolutely fine. 549 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,800 It really was an unfair state of affairs 550 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,120 because, for women, adultery was a much worse crime than rape. 551 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,200 In addition to having carnal relations 552 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,400 with their wives or prostitutes, in Ancient Greece, 553 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,640 it was also expected that young men would court adolescent boys. 554 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,880 The beauty of youth was celebrated and much sought-after, 555 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,800 and pederastic relationships were seen as very much the norm. 556 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,640 Girls were married off when they were 13 or 14, 557 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:37,880 at the same stage, 558 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,440 boys would attract the attention of older male lovers. 559 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,640 Something that today would be labelled as pederasty, 560 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,920 or even perhaps paedophilia, was considered by the Ancient Greeks 561 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,120 an exalted and important form of love. 562 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,960 The relationship between the "erastes", the older man, 563 00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,120 and the "eromenos", the younger boy, was governed by strict rules. 564 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,200 The older man had to be in his 20s but not yet married, 565 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,720 and his role was to protect, to love, to educate the younger boy. 566 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,320 And he had to win his affection. 567 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,880 He had to sleep on his doorstep, he had to shower him with gifts 568 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,280 and the younger boy had to agree to the match. 569 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,600 Although it was said that many fathers were furious 570 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,560 when they heard that their sons had male admirers, 571 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,440 fathers would also wish for their sons to be beautiful 572 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,440 so as to attract the best lover. 573 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,760 These relationships were almost a final stage of a boy's education, 574 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,560 an exchange of wisdom and youth. 575 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,200 The images on Greek vases offer us sometimes a suggestive 576 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,840 and sometimes a fairly graphic picture 577 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,080 of the erastes/eromenos relationship. 578 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:48,160 So, this one here shows an older man, a suitor, offering a cockerel, 579 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,680 a gift, towards the youth, the potential eromenos. 580 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,440 And just in case there's any doubt 581 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,040 about how to interpret this image, 582 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,920 the inscription around the edge reads 583 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,960 "hoptite kalos" - "the beautiful boy". 584 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,120 But this one over here, on the other hand, 585 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,880 is a little bit more vivid an image, perhaps, 586 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,480 of the erastes/eromenos relationship later on in the evening. 587 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,520 Here, both are naked 588 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,800 and the youth stretches out with his arm to cradle the older man's head. 589 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,720 The older man, clearly excited, 590 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,680 reaches out with his own hand towards the youth's genitalia. 591 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,120 The images give us a picture of everything 592 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,600 the erastes/eromenos image could be - 593 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,360 affection, love and lust. 594 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:36,080 Older man/younger boy relationships were celebrated in Ancient Greece. 595 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,480 There were even famous eromenos and erastes couples. 596 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,800 These relationships weren't hidden in the backstreets, 597 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,440 they were front and centre in Greek society. 598 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,480 There were also strict rules 599 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,960 about when the erastes/eromenos relationship should be over. 600 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:57,440 In an ideal world, the man should be married by the time he was 35, 601 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:58,840 otherwise he faced a fine. 602 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,880 And the young boy's days as an eromenos were said to be over 603 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,720 when he had "hair on thigh and down on cheek". 604 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,360 And if the relationship carried on, 605 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,800 well, the younger boy was subject to shame 606 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,640 and the older man to ridicule. 607 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,280 So we shouldn't think about sexual orientation as something 608 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,760 that was set for life in Ancient Greece, 609 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,520 much rather, it was that there were different sexual relationships 610 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,280 appropriate at different ages. 611 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,080 The admiration of youth, the cult of admiring the physique 612 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,480 and promise of adolescent boys on the brink of manhood 613 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,960 was a huge part of Ancient Greek culture. 614 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,040 'Professor Olga Palagia, of Athens University, 615 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,120 'is an expert in classical sculpture, 616 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,360 'and has studied the hundreds of statues of perfect young males 617 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,800 'known as kouros figures. 618 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,040 'And Olga believes that these statues give us a real sense 619 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,680 'of how the Greeks thought about young men and young women.' 620 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,080 So, Olga, where are you taking me? 621 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,320 I'm taking you to the statue of the kouros 622 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:03,040 that was standing on his grave in Attica outside of Athens, 623 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:07,880 probably with his sister, who is the next statue over there. 624 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,160 And what strikes you immediately 625 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,200 about so many of the statues from Ancient Greece, 626 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,760 the male statues, is the nudity, isn't it? 627 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,680 What did the nudity say? 628 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:22,160 What would a viewer have thought when they saw this kind of statue? 629 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:23,960 I think, first, they would think 630 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,200 that this is an aristocratic young man 631 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,280 because he had the leisure to exercise. 632 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,200 We know that the sons of good families 633 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,960 could go to the gym every day and exercise 634 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:42,080 and they were really obsessed with athletics and exercise, 635 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,080 very much like we are. 636 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:48,720 When we see nudity today, we think sexuality, we think lust, 637 00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:52,680 we think attraction. Is there that element to it as well? 638 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,600 Yes. If we're men, we're supposed to be attracted, 639 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,880 because in ancient Athens, older men would be attracted by young boys. 640 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,040 Because they wouldn't have a chance to look at young girls. 641 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,400 Young girls were confined at home. 642 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,960 And in statues, they are very different, aren't they? 643 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,320 They are, of course, always dressed, heavily dressed. 644 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,160 There was a lot of emphasis on virginity 645 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,200 because young women were going to get married 646 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,360 and have the heir to the family, so they weren't supposed to see anyone. 647 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,520 And the difference is key, you can't see, really, any features 648 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,560 of her body underneath at all, compared to our gentleman over here. 649 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:31,680 That's right. 650 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,120 If you had that perfect physical body, 651 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,760 what did it say about your character? 652 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,720 It had no implications at all. 653 00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:42,520 So it really is body beautiful and it doesn't matter 654 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,040 what their brain is like or what their character is like 655 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,680 or what their soul is like, but it is the body above all. 656 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,960 Well, the brain was a challenge for the mature lover 657 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,960 who would like to teach the young boy various things, 658 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,280 so he would be very happy to take him on 659 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,000 and teach him all sorts of things... 660 00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:04,080 ..and, you know, develop his mind. 661 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,240 Ancient Greece was awash with images, 662 00:37:11,240 --> 00:37:14,440 many of them sculptures of people with perfect physiques. 663 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,480 Indeed, more often than not, uber-perfect physiques. 664 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,960 And that cacophony of perfection set the bar high 665 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:25,200 when it came to expectations of what people looked like in real life. 666 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,720 And more than that it fed into a wider set of expectations 667 00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:31,960 about how what you looked like said something about who you were 668 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,960 and how who you spent time with said something about who you were. 669 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,160 Plutarch put it like this - 670 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,560 "If you live with a lame man, you'll start to limp." 671 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,560 So, the ideal in Ancient Greece was to look good, 672 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,840 spend your time with good-looking people avoiding the ugly 673 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,040 and anyone who didn't match up to the ideal. 674 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,160 The Ancient Greeks enjoyed spending a great deal of their time 675 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,400 drinking, discussing and carousing with good-looking people 676 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,040 and those with great minds. 677 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,360 And much of this appreciation of the good-looking and good-minded, 678 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,600 fuelled by good wine, took place in "symposia", 679 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,120 which were drinking parties held behind closed doors. 680 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:21,080 But even these Ancient Greek parties were not what you might think, 681 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,000 they weren't relaxed events, 682 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,560 rather they were a series of tests on how to conduct yourself. 683 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,240 The male guests at the symposium were asked to recline on benches, 684 00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:34,920 to take up positions something like this. 685 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,520 And to assume this position was to prove yourself 686 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,840 a fully-fledged member of Greek society. 687 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,680 Youngsters, for instance, weren't allowed to recline, they had to sit. 688 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,480 But even when you'd obtained this privileged position and place, 689 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,920 that was only the beginning because the symposium 690 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,360 was a continual series of tests on how to behave - 691 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,800 one of which was how to drink your wine. 692 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,240 Now this is a kylix, an Ancient Greek drinking cup, 693 00:38:59,240 --> 00:39:02,720 and it's a lot harder to drink out of than you might first imagine, 694 00:39:02,720 --> 00:39:05,360 not least because of the wide brim 695 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:06,760 and the shallow nature of the vessel, 696 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,280 but also because I'm reclining so I can only drink with one hand. 697 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,080 As you tip it towards you, the wine comes forward 698 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,320 and makes the whole thing very unbalanced. 699 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,760 It's easy for a novice, particularly like me, 700 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:18,960 to make a complete mess of it. 701 00:39:23,240 --> 00:39:25,440 A bit of an epic fail on my part. 702 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,600 But what this shows is what the symposium did in the Greek world. 703 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,560 It proved who was in and who was out. 704 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,200 But then proved whether or not 705 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,640 you knew how to behave within Greek society. 706 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,200 It wasn't, like down the pub today, how many pints can you drink? 707 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,240 It was do you know how to drink? 708 00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:45,640 And that's why I think that, 709 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,880 on so many of the vessels that were used in the symposium, 710 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:53,240 you see this, you see an eye, a reminder to all the guests 711 00:39:53,240 --> 00:39:55,920 that society was looking right back at them. 712 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,840 There's an impression that symposia were wild orgies with drinking, 713 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,960 high-class prostitutes, dancing girls and flautists, 714 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,880 young men and older men enjoying the pleasure of close contact, 715 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,040 reclining two to a couch. 716 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,800 Everyone getting drunk, 717 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,680 well, maybe that's a taste of what happened when they got out of hand, 718 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:25,120 but symposia were also governed by exact social etiquette. 719 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,240 There was a master of ceremonies 720 00:40:27,240 --> 00:40:30,560 who decided how strong the wine for the evening would be 721 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,120 and oversaw what happened when. 722 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,280 There were cleansing rituals and libations to the gods, 723 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:37,960 which had to take place. 724 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,640 Wine was mixed with water in great jars known as kraters. 725 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,440 Everything would start off in a very civilised manner. 726 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,440 Now, of course, some symposia went much further than that 727 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,600 and the playwright Eubulus tells us about what each krater, 728 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,400 each bowl of mixed wine, 729 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,120 means, when drunk, for how the evening will continue. 730 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:57,680 He puts it like this, 731 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,160 "For sensible men, I prepare only three kraters - 732 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,360 one for health, the second for love and pleasure, 733 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:04,600 and the third for sleep. 734 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,040 And after that the sensible man goes home. 735 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:12,120 But if you stay, well, the fourth krater belongs to hubris, 736 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:16,360 the fifth is for shouting, the sixth is for rudeness and insults, 737 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,360 the seventh is for fighting, 738 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,440 the eighth is for breaking the furniture, 739 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,600 the ninth is for depression, 740 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,200 and the tenth, well, that's for madness and unconsciousness. 741 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,800 It does sound to me exactly how a ten-pint evening might pan out. 742 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,560 The symposium was not just about drinking and having a good time, 743 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,680 it was really supposed to be a place 744 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,320 for intellectual discussion and debate. 745 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,720 And as for what was discussed before the shouting, rudeness 746 00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:46,800 and unconsciousness ensued, 747 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,880 the philosopher Plato wrote a whole philosophical discourse 748 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,760 about one famous symposium party that took place one night in Athens. 749 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,000 In Plato's Symposium, all the guests are invited 750 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,960 to debate and discuss about the nature of love. 751 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,840 That is until Socrates' on-off lover, Alcibiades, 752 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,640 turns up half drunk to ruin the party. 753 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,520 But in that story of a symposium gone wrong, 754 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:14,160 Plato underlines what a symposium should be about - 755 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:18,240 debate, discussion, investigation, argument, 756 00:42:18,240 --> 00:42:22,400 all the hallmarks of what made the Greek psyche so unique 757 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,840 are on display in the symposium. 758 00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:29,080 It wasn't mindless drinking, then, in Ancient Greece, 759 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,320 quite the opposite. 760 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,880 Wine was crucial to the symposium because it facilitated 761 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,000 exactly what the event was intended for - talking. 762 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,600 It was expected that you had to lead a public life in Ancient Greece 763 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,240 just as you had to display your body in the gymnasium, 764 00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:59,360 you had to display your mind in the symposium. 765 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:05,280 In Greek, the word for a "private person" is "idiotes" - our "idiot". 766 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,080 Opting out of society was really not an option. 767 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,960 The Ancient Greeks were very different to us today. 768 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,920 They lived in a world of exorbitantly high expectations 769 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,040 in almost every aspect of their lives. 770 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,760 And they had to debate and discuss and argue 771 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,680 and to do it all publicly 772 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,560 without any real value attached to a private life. 773 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,240 They weren't slaves to conformity but they were driven 774 00:43:29,240 --> 00:43:34,400 by an internal anxiety and need to meet those expectations 775 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,960 and to prove themselves publicly - a good sportsman, 776 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,600 a good soldier, a good citizen, a good Greek. 777 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,160 All these pressures to prove oneself worthy, 778 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,920 were part of what the Athenians felt they were protecting 779 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,160 more than anything else on the battlefield at Marathon - 780 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:53,320 their democracy, 781 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,160 the biggest talking shop and opt-in system of them all. 782 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,480 This rather unprepossessing place 783 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,600 on one of the hills above central Athens 784 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,760 is, in fact, the beating heart of the ancient Athenian democracy. 785 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,600 This is the assembly. 786 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,240 Now today we are used to electing representatives 787 00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:12,880 who will meet to take decisions on our behalf. 788 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,120 But in ancient Athens, it was very different. 789 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:19,400 Every single citizen had the right to come here to the assembly 790 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,840 to listen to the debates about all sorts of issues 791 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,440 from what to do with the financial surplus 792 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:25,880 to whether or not to go to war. 793 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:30,200 6,000 or so people and every one of them had the right to step up there, 794 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,600 to the speakers' platform, and to make their opinion known. 795 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,160 And then a vote was taken, probably just with a show of hands. 796 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,920 The direct nature of the democracy in ancient Athens 797 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,960 is unlike anything we know today. 798 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,040 Life could be brutish and short here in Athens, 799 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,640 but if you did survive childhood and adolescence, 800 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,280 you would, at some point, 801 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,920 be directly involved in governing your city. 802 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,360 It was also a hands-on world. 803 00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,000 In the law courts, there were no lawyers 804 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,720 and no Criminal Prosecution Service. 805 00:45:02,720 --> 00:45:05,080 If you wanted to try a case, you had to bring it 806 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:06,840 and you had to speak to the jury. 807 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,080 But it was not all fair and ideal. 808 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,120 There were still dirty politics. 809 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,480 These pieces of pottery are called "ostraca" 810 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,000 and they've given us our word "ostracism" today 811 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,400 because they were used in a particularly important vote 812 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:22,560 in ancient Athens. 813 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,200 The way it worked was this, you took your piece of pottery 814 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:26,560 like our replica here, 815 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,040 and you wrote on it the name of an Athenian 816 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,480 who you wanted to expel from the city 817 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,520 for a period of up to ten years, 818 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,040 a person you wanted to ostracise. 819 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,200 Now, all of these pieces here, like our replica, 820 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,480 have the same name on it and it's Themistocles. 821 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,920 Themistocles was an incredibly important politician in Athens 822 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,040 in the years after the battle of Marathon. 823 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,560 But it seems like he might have got a bit too big for his boots 824 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:56,320 because these pieces are part of a larger collection of 190 ostraca 825 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,040 all with his name on it. 826 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:00,560 But here's the rub - 827 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,000 because when these pieces were analysed by archaeologists 828 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:09,280 it was discovered that all 190 were written by just 14 different people. 829 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,080 And that can be for one of two reasons. 830 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,520 Firstly, that there were some enterprising people 831 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,200 pre-writing these to sell them to citizens 832 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,680 who perhaps couldn't write so well for themselves 833 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,800 or else, that there was some pretty extensive vote-rigging going on. 834 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:33,240 Democracy in Athens meant complete citizen participation. 835 00:46:33,240 --> 00:46:37,120 If you were a man and a citizen, you were part of the process. 836 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,160 But along with all these participatory politics 837 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,600 came something we probably wouldn't want to thank the Greeks for - 838 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,280 bureaucracy. 839 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:49,880 The Athenians, it seems, were in love with it, and the city was awash 840 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,800 with countless inscriptions holding anyone and everyone accountable. 841 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,600 Here at the Epigraphic Museum in Athens, 842 00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,480 many of these inscriptions can be found on display. 843 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,800 The Athenians published in profusion 844 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,360 every aspect of the workings of their democracy. 845 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:10,120 We have laws, decrees, honours, contracts, 846 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,880 registers, scrutiny lists, calendars, the list goes on. 847 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,320 What we get is a sense of the incredible accountability 848 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:21,560 and transparency that defined the ancient Athenian democracy. 849 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,640 And this stelae symbolises that above all it's, 850 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,640 as the first line tells us, 851 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,880 "a summ grafai", a set of building specs 852 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,480 for what is effectively a bit of a storeroom down in the Piraeus, 853 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,160 the ancient port of Athens. 854 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,640 And what follows is an incredibly detailed description 855 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,360 of what the building should look like. 856 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,080 This tells us, not just the general outline of the building, 857 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:42,720 but where the windows should be, 858 00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:44,960 how deep the foundations should be, every detail. 859 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,640 But the best bit is the final clause because this is the penalty clause 860 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,240 and it tells us that the building contractors 861 00:47:51,240 --> 00:47:55,520 must finish everything they promised "en teus cronos" - 862 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,560 "in the specified time". 863 00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,960 So builders back then, just like builders now, 864 00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:03,120 had to be pushed to finish the job on time. 865 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:04,880 Some things never change! 866 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,960 But how did the Greeks afford all their monumental building, 867 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,440 their drinking parties, sculpture, art and architecture? 868 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,680 Citizens would not work for free, there were rates of pay 869 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,880 and civic duties to attend to. 870 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,360 The uncomfortable truth is that Ancient Greece 871 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,400 was a civilisation built on the backs of slaves. 872 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,080 Slavery was a fact of life in Ancient Greece. 873 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,240 Slaves were captured in war or bought from overseas. 874 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,400 One census states that in fourth century BC Athens, 875 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,440 there were 400,000 slaves 876 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,280 to a citizen population of around just 35,000. 877 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:50,680 Not all Greeks were free, 878 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,960 but even those that were knew what slavery meant. 879 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,960 And the prospect of becoming a slave, 880 00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,680 or of your wife and children being forced into slavery, 881 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,200 would have terrified them, 882 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:04,520 mainly because Greece and even the fabled democracy of ancient Athens 883 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,720 ran on slave labour. 884 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,280 Ancient Athens ran on slaves and silver. 885 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,520 At Laurion, just 40 miles southeast of Athens, 886 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:19,600 were the silver mines which provided Athens with much of its wealth. 887 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,840 And they were mines worked by thousands of slaves. 888 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,120 Off the beaten track today, you can still find the galleries 889 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,120 and tunnels of these ancient silver mines. 890 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:35,040 This is not a place you often get the chance to explore. 891 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,520 The silver from the mines here at Laurion 892 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,520 in part went to making Athens' famous coinage, 893 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:41,960 the Attic silver owl. 894 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,800 Each one of these is worth about four days' wage 895 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,040 for a skilled worker in ancient Athens. 896 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,960 And the slaves that worked here came from, amongst other places, 897 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,840 Thrace and Paphlagonia. 898 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,000 That's modern day Northern Greece, Bulgaria and Turkey. 899 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,560 And in these dark and cramped conditions, 900 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,080 they must have felt a long, long way from home. 901 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,320 Oil lamps, like this replica here, have been found in the mines. 902 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,600 And from the amount of oil that they contained, 903 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,800 we can estimate that a shift 904 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,640 might have lasted something like ten hours. 905 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,160 That's a long time to be down these tunnels 906 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,320 with just this kind of light. 907 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,640 Of all the types of slave you could be in Ancient Greece, 908 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:25,720 being a silver mine slave was considered to be the worst. 909 00:50:25,720 --> 00:50:29,240 Plato talked about these places as being, in Greek, "vari" 910 00:50:29,240 --> 00:50:32,480 which means "dark, heavy, depressing". 911 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,320 And I can see what he meant. 912 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:43,640 Unsurprisingly, the life expectancy of a Laurion slave was short. 913 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,120 But what is surprising in Ancient Greece 914 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,720 is that not all slaves were treated badly. 915 00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:51,400 Many led quite comfortable lives. 916 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,640 Slaves could be well cared for by their masters, 917 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,120 they could be well educated 918 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,400 and some had important administrative positions 919 00:50:58,400 --> 00:50:59,920 in Greek cities. 920 00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:03,920 Indeed, Plutarch tells us that he would rather be a slave in Athens 921 00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,000 than the king of some poxy little island. 922 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,840 And other sources talk about the way that in Athens 923 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,720 you couldn't tell between a slave and a non-slave 924 00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:15,360 because everyone wore the same clothes. 925 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,400 House slaves served as cooks, 926 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,200 cleaners, porters, tutors as "pedagogues", 927 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,080 escorting their master's sons to school, 928 00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,200 watching over them to make sure they completed their lessons. 929 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,720 Slaves were messengers, nurses and companions. 930 00:51:29,720 --> 00:51:33,560 Some were even buried alongside their masters and mistresses 931 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,520 in the family burial plot at the end of their lives. 932 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,320 Let's not get too carried away, though, with this idea 933 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,000 of a cosy slave-master relationship. 934 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,360 Slaves were essentially seen as subhuman. 935 00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,320 Slave testimony in Ancient Greek courts, for example, 936 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:53,320 was only allowed if it had been extracted under torture 937 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,400 because slaves were seen as natural liars. 938 00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,840 Starvation and flogging were common punishments. 939 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,240 And, of course, if your master wanted sex, 940 00:52:01,240 --> 00:52:03,000 you had no business refusing. 941 00:52:06,720 --> 00:52:10,480 As offensive as it is to our modern concepts of liberty, 942 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,640 slavery didn't really bother the Ancient Greeks. 943 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,080 Slaves could be seen as the working class, 944 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,320 the people who kept the cogs turning. 945 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:23,400 But there were ways to work your way out of slavery in Ancient Greece. 946 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:27,480 You could be granted your freedom. You could even make a lot of money. 947 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:28,880 There was one slave 948 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,600 who actually became one of the richest men in Greece. 949 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:37,000 His name was Pasion and he had the ultimate rags-to-riches story. 950 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,880 'To learn more about Pasion, I've come to the ancient port of Athens, 951 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,360 'the Piraeus, where Pasion first worked as a slave. 952 00:52:47,720 --> 00:52:51,520 'And I'm hoping Dr Paul Millett, an expert on Ancient Greek slavery, 953 00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:55,080 'can tell me more about Pasion's extraordinary story.' 954 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,400 So, Paul, tell me about this character, Pasion. 955 00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,320 What do we know about him? 956 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,720 So he was born, we think, some time around 430 957 00:53:01,720 --> 00:53:05,960 and he came to Athens as an outsider, a non-Greek, 958 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,920 and almost certainly also would have been landed here at the Piraeus 959 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,040 before being taken to the slave market, 960 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,800 and we think being bought by a couple of Athenian bankers. 961 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,320 What happened next in Pasion's story? 962 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,280 He was a great success as their assistant, one presumes, 963 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,760 because they gave him his freedom 964 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:28,080 and he continued to manage the bank. 965 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,280 And somehow, we don't know quite how it came about, 966 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,360 he ended up owning this bank. 967 00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:37,080 The idea that you could rise up from being a slave to be freed, 968 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,600 that was fairly typical in Ancient Greece? 969 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,640 Well, my view is absolutely not. 970 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:45,280 I see this career path as being one pursued 971 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,760 by a tiny minority of slaves. 972 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,560 So Pasion, I see, as being very much the exception. 973 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,440 Once he becomes free, what happens next? 974 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,520 I mean, does he continue to work in the same business? 975 00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:02,160 He became a successful, what we might say, businessman in his own right, 976 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,520 with other interests apart from banking 977 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:09,680 and was able to be sufficiently generous to the Athenian state. 978 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,520 One donation, we know about, was in the shield factory. 979 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,000 He gave a thousand shields. 980 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:19,000 He provided a number of "triremes", "warships" for the Athenian navy, 981 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:20,840 a very expensive thing to do. 982 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,680 And was, in the end, rewarded with citizenship, 983 00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:28,360 which is very, very rare indeed for a slave. 984 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:32,560 And can we get any sense of just how rich Pasion was 985 00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,680 as an individual by the time he died? 986 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,920 Well, we think he may have been the wealthiest man in Athens. 987 00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,800 'Many slaves would have dreamed of gaining their freedom 988 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,640 'and becoming a citizen, having a say in the Athenian democracy 989 00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,080 'which Pasion became a part of. 990 00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,840 'But the equality that was the hallmark of democracy in Athens 991 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,200 'also demanded crushing conformity. 992 00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,280 'Every citizen was supposed to have a modest house, 993 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,680 'obey the rules and even wear the same clothes. 994 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,920 'But as always with the Greeks, 995 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,840 'things weren't quite as straightforward as they may seem, 996 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,240 'not even when it came to your funeral.' 997 00:55:12,240 --> 00:55:15,280 The Athenians tried to enforce equality amongst their citizens 998 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,160 even in death. 999 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:18,360 So there were rules about 1000 00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,560 the maximum size of funerary mat you could have, 1001 00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,200 the number of garments that could be put in your grave, 1002 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,440 the extent of your funeral procession, 1003 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:29,040 and even in relation to the size of your grave monument. 1004 00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,880 The idea was that no-one should stand out 1005 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,480 as being more worthy than anyone else. 1006 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,240 But, of course, this didn't work. 1007 00:55:38,240 --> 00:55:42,480 The Ancient Greeks, as ever, found a way around the rules. 1008 00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,680 These are some of the gravestones from Athens' Cemetery 1009 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,400 and while they are all fairly similar in type, 1010 00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:52,240 you can immediately see there are vast differences in size, 1011 00:55:52,240 --> 00:55:55,840 in the quality of the sculpture and, of course, as a result in the cost. 1012 00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:57,520 So what I think this room shows is 1013 00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,760 that despite all the laws that Athens put in place 1014 00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,200 to try and ensure that everyone looked equal, 1015 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,040 actually the desire for individualisation, 1016 00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,880 the desire to be different, to demonstrate your wealth, 1017 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,480 your birth, the desire to be remembered, 1018 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,360 just kept breaking through. 1019 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,400 And this is one of my favourites. 1020 00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,160 This is Hergesso. 1021 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,240 Hergesso, the daughter of Proximos. 1022 00:56:20,240 --> 00:56:23,320 She's beautifully carved and out of her jewellery box, 1023 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,760 she's picking her favourite piece of jewellery 1024 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,960 that would have been put in in paint or precious metal. 1025 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:33,480 There's no way, when walking past this in Athens Cemetery, 1026 00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:37,520 that you would have thought Hergesso was the equal of everyone else. 1027 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:41,360 She was, and she would be remembered as being, quite rightly, 1028 00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:42,680 something special. 1029 00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,760 The Ancient Greeks were full of contradictions. 1030 00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,480 They lived in an incredibly tough environment 1031 00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,400 but they created magnificent art and architecture. 1032 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:04,040 They invented democracy but their world ran on slave labour. 1033 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:05,760 They had philosophy and logic 1034 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,520 but they would bend over backwards to please the gods. 1035 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:12,280 It was a society that can seem like a vicious free-for-all, 1036 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,280 but actually followed strict, if slightly odd, rules. 1037 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,000 And it was that explosive mix 1038 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:24,040 that propelled the Greeks to extraordinary creations, discoveries 1039 00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,680 and achievements in almost every aspect of human society, 1040 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:31,480 including victory over the Persians at the Battle of Marathon. 1041 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,640 Ancient Greece is probably not a place that any of us today 1042 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,280 would want to find ourselves in. 1043 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,360 But it is also a place, I would argue, 1044 00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,560 that we would never want to be without. 1045 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,760 Next week, I'll be exploring the great legacies 1046 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:54,120 of the Ancient Greeks and asking, "Why are they so enduring?" 1047 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,080 I'll travel across the Greek world 1048 00:57:56,080 --> 00:58:00,200 to reveal the extent of their creative and scientific genius 1049 00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,840 and I'll uncover the strange realities 1050 00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,720 of the Olympic Games and ancient theatre... 1051 00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,760 You've got a golden heterae or prostitute, 1052 00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:12,000 so she turns out to have a heart of gold. 1053 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:15,400 ..and I'll find out how modern science is enlivening our quest 1054 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,040 to discover who were the Greeks? 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