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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:10,200 On the 8th of November, 1918 three men met in a railway 2 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,280 carriage in the woods in northern France. 3 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,800 They were there to negotiate the end of the First World War. 4 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:26,240 This is a dark day with tension, as this is the greatest war 5 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,520 the world has seen, thus far. 6 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,280 Their meeting lasted three days. 7 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,520 At stake were hundreds of thousands of lives. 8 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,240 Leading historians from each country have taken us inside the minds 9 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:49,840 of those involved. 10 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:56,160 Foch keeps saying to the British, "My country was devastated. 11 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,640 "Yours wasn't." 12 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,720 Too much bonhomie is not going to get you very far in this. 13 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:06,280 People of 70 million can suffer, but we will not die. 14 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,200 You will not get rid of us. 15 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:14,480 The results of the meeting would echo down through the 20th century, 16 00:01:14,960 --> 00:01:17,320 often with terrible consequences. 17 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:23,400 Now, exactly 100 years later, this is the story of that meeting. 18 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:28,280 This is the story of the Armistice of 1918. 19 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,200 In 1918, German military headquarters were in Spa, 20 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:50,600 in occupied Belgium. 21 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:06,080 It was from here, at 12 noon on November the 7th, 22 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:10,880 that the Germans set off for the negotiations 23 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:12,760 to end the First World War. 24 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,680 Leading the delegation was a mild-mannered former 25 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:25,280 schoolteacher turned politician, Matthias Erzberger. 26 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:34,120 Matthias Erzberger is courageous and selfless. 27 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:40,000 He is a man of conviction, and not a game player. 28 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,960 He looks like a kindly man. 29 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,720 I think of him as a good German. 30 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:57,040 To get to the negotiating table, Erzberger had to take 31 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:02,080 a 200 mile road trip and cross enemy lines. 32 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,680 On the way, his car crashed and he had to change vehicles. 33 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:07,800 It felt like a bad omen. 34 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,720 At La Capelle he reached the front line... 35 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,040 ..where he had to hand himself over to the French. 36 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,280 Here, before the negotiations had even begun, the French 37 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,880 made their first psychological move. 38 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:36,640 They took him on a detour, a guided tour of the horrors 39 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,120 of the Western Front. 40 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,320 The war had been raging for four years... 41 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,800 ..with soldiers dying at the rate of a thousand a day. 42 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,840 who were in Berlin for the war, 43 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,080 had never seen what the Front looked like. 44 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:25,520 The destruction that he witnesses is really extremely harrowing. 45 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:42,120 He writes it was worse than being on his son's deathbed, 46 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,320 his young son's deathbed, who died of the Spanish flu 47 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,440 just some three weeks before. 48 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:56,080 Seeing first-hand the devastation that German troops had actually 49 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,360 caused in Belgium and France, I think, for him, 50 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,160 would have been very shocking. 51 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,080 At 3am, Erzberger boarded a train with blacked out windows. 52 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,400 Four hours later, he pulled into an empty railroad 53 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,840 siding deep in the forest of Compiegne. 54 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,560 Waiting for him were two men who could not have been more 55 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,520 different from the German. 56 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,880 Britain had sent Rosslyn Wemyss... 57 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,360 ..who joined the military at just 13, and grew up to be the commander 58 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,080 of the most powerful Navy in the world. 59 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:03,760 Rosslyn Wemyss is the right man in the right place in 1918. 60 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,480 Wemyss was knighted for his actions in Gallipoli. 61 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,880 He was well connected and politically astute. 62 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:23,440 He has a capacity, it seems to me, to bring out the best in other 63 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,640 people, as well as in himself. 64 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,120 For over 100 years, Britain had ruled the waves, 65 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,480 and Wemyss's main interest was keeping it that way. 66 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:43,280 For Britain, one of the key concerns is the need for a lead 67 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,560 after the war over Germany 68 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,840 to ensure the security of the Empire, which would underpin, 69 00:06:51,840 --> 00:06:54,800 as he would see it, Britain's prosperity. 70 00:07:02,840 --> 00:07:07,920 France sent Marshal Ferdinand Foch, in charge of the Allied armies. 71 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,000 A short man with a fondness for cheap cigars, 72 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,840 his only son was killed by the Germans in 1914. 73 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,680 But he only grieved for half an hour 74 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,080 before getting back to work. 75 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,120 General Foch is a professional. 76 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:30,400 Cold. 77 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:36,520 Proud. It's all about fighting for the Fatherland. 78 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,400 Allons-y. Let's go. 79 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:39,400 Let's attack. 80 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:47,040 Foch keeps saying to the British, "I have a bleeding country. 81 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,560 "My country was devastated. Yours wasn't. 82 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:53,960 "My country is bleeding. 83 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,200 "I know because I am bleeding, because I am wounded." 84 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:04,680 So, Foch wanted one thing more than anything else... 85 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,840 ..to make sure that Germany was never able to invade France again. 86 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,560 Of the three of them, Erzberger was, by far, 87 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,640 in the most desperate position. 88 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:30,760 For years, the Western Front had been locked in stalemate. 89 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,280 Millions had died. 90 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,320 But the front line had only moved a few miles in either direction. 91 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,520 Then, in early 1918, German stormtroopers smashed 92 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,240 through Allied lines. 93 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,520 But they went too far, too fast, and supply lines couldn't keep up. 94 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,560 With the help of American troops, the Allies launched 95 00:08:58,560 --> 00:09:00,440 a decisive counter attack. 96 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,080 Soon German troops were deserting in droves and there was unrest 97 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:07,640 in the streets of Berlin. 98 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,480 And in just two hours, the Armistice negotiations would begin. 99 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:37,080 Erzberger arrives at the Armistice negotiations, 100 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:42,040 not exactly in the best physical and psychological frame of mind 101 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,760 to undertake these momentous negotiations. 102 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,760 Foch shows up, looking like a statue of himself. 103 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,800 Perfectly shaved, his moustache perfectly groomed. 104 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,320 Foch appears in Erzberger's account as very aloof, 105 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:15,240 very cool. And Erzberger is unimpressed with Foch's manners. 106 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,440 Also, not terribly won over by Wemyss. 107 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,480 He was, essentially, like a fish out of water, I guess, 108 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,760 being a civilian in this military environment. 109 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,000 These are the enemy. 110 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,200 You do need to be pretty firm, pretty strong. 111 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,480 And too much bonhomie is not going to get you very far in this. 112 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,360 Each group facing the other across a table, divided crucially 113 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,760 by the table, not united by the table. 114 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,840 This is not a dinner party where people are leaning across. 115 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,760 They are looking at each other pretty stony-faced, 116 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:07,760 with a sense of tension, as this is the greatest war that the world 117 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,000 has seen, thus far. 118 00:11:12,680 --> 00:11:15,200 Erzberger expects there to be a handshake. 119 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:16,680 There is no handshake. 120 00:11:16,680 --> 00:11:19,520 There are no friendly formalities. 121 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,400 The very fact that Foch doesn't want to shake hands 122 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:29,520 with the Germans indicates that, in his eyes, the horror of the war 123 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:34,760 goes far beyond the normal rules or conventions of chivalry. 124 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,600 And he wants to show the Germans that this war 125 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,280 has gone far too far. 126 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:48,240 That something was broken in civilisation, or in humankind. 127 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,160 Erzberger's first move was a humanitarian one. 128 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:04,040 He requested a ceasefire whilst negotiations took place. 129 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,240 Foch refused. 130 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,880 Erzberger's next move was to point to a peace proposal, 131 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,440 laid out by the American President, Woodrow Wilson. 132 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,760 The proposal set out a new world order 133 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,400 and was known as the Fourteen Points. 134 00:12:44,680 --> 00:12:48,560 Its aim was to place all countries on an equal footing, 135 00:12:48,560 --> 00:12:50,960 and spread the American values of democracy and peace. 136 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,280 Wilson's Fourteen Points were his dream. 137 00:12:59,680 --> 00:13:02,560 He was a constitutional historian, 138 00:13:02,560 --> 00:13:04,600 the only American president with a PhD. 139 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,040 He was a learned man. He understood these issues. 140 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,720 Arrogance, perhaps. 141 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,800 Vision, certainly. 142 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,880 Humility, not really. 143 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:24,520 Erzberger assumes that this will be a matter of negotiation to agree 144 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:29,240 an Armistice along the lines of Wilson's suggestions. 145 00:13:30,560 --> 00:13:32,440 He has lots of ideas of how he 146 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,080 thinks he might use the Fourteen Points 147 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:40,040 as a vehicle for trying to arrange a favourable peace for Germany. 148 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,880 The proposals by Wilson are very nice and very interesting, 149 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,280 but they miss the point. 150 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,480 The point is ending the war and breaking the German might. 151 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,640 Quickly, Foch and Wemyss disabuse them of the notion 152 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,920 that the Fourteen Points will be the basis of the Armistice talks. 153 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,960 Erzberger's memoirs give a sense of the confusion, I think, 154 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:14,640 and surprise also that he clearly felt, given the position he now 155 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,080 finds himself in. 156 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,200 Foch and Wemyss put forward their own terms. 157 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,280 First, they wanted the German weapons. 158 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:40,880 Those are very high numbers. 159 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,720 They are there to crush the Germans, 160 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,400 to make the German Army unable to fight. 161 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,040 Then they wanted their Navy. 162 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:07,080 Wemyss is making sure that the ships are delivered to the British 163 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,120 so they cannot be used again. 164 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,520 That's end of story. 165 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,600 Erzberger would have been aware that this will be considered 166 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,720 an absolute outrage by everyone in Germany. 167 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:23,720 And they certainly did not want to hand their beautiful fleet 168 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,040 The German Navy will be reduced to a point of ineffectiveness. 169 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:36,440 And the Allies wanted land. 170 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,440 The long disputed areas of Alsace and Lorraine, 171 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,880 5,000 square miles of fertile territory that both France 172 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,120 and Germany believed was theirs. 173 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,680 They also demanded to occupy a piece of Germany, the Rhineland. 174 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,760 The first reason is technical and military. 175 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,560 It's a bridgehead to the German territory. 176 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,800 That's the first thing. 177 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,280 The second reason is psychological. 178 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:16,200 For four years, the Germans have been occupying France. 179 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:20,200 Foch, by sending his troops over to Germany, 180 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,440 wants to show the Germans that, from then on, 181 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,520 they are occupied themselves. 182 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,160 And they wanted money. 183 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,280 Germany must pay reparations for all the damage done in the war. 184 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:41,320 The notion that the defeated power should pay for defeat has been well 185 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:46,240 established in European practice before 1918. 186 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:50,240 The point is there that if you lose a war, you pay. 187 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,560 I think what Erzberger worries about more than anything else 188 00:16:55,560 --> 00:17:00,160 is that if Germany does not agree to the Armistice conditions, 189 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,960 it would be occupied. It would be divided by the Allies, 190 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,960 it would be completely destroyed. 191 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,360 I think it dawns on him then that this really is 192 00:17:09,360 --> 00:17:10,760 the end of the road. 193 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:18,000 Erzberger focused on the thing that mattered most to the German people - 194 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,480 the naval blockade of their country. 195 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,880 In place since 1914, a blockade of its ports 196 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:32,080 was preventing food and supplies from reaching the German people. 197 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,040 Erzberger pleads with them. He says, 198 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,040 "Look, Germans are starving." 199 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,480 But there is no pity in that railway carriage 200 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,000 for starving Germans at that point. 201 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,440 Wemyss doesn't give indication that he is concerned 202 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,040 about the German civilian population. 203 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:01,680 In continuing the blockade, Foch and Wemyss's aim was strategic. 204 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:05,800 The Allies wanted a way to maintain the upper hand over Germany, 205 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,840 even if it meant hundreds of thousands of civilians 206 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,480 would starve to death. 207 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,920 The blockade is hostile, there is no doubt about that. 208 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,600 And it's designed to be hostile. 209 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:21,640 What Foch and Wemyss are trying to do is to continue to exert 210 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,000 pressure in order to make sure that they get the right outcome 211 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,440 at the peace settlement. 212 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:31,600 For Wemyss, the moment to get Germany is at the Armistice. 213 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,440 This is the moment. 214 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:38,280 The continuation of the blockade was a major blow for Erzberger. 215 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:46,600 Foch sees some German delegate crying, but what is the weight 216 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,080 of some tears of a German politician in front of him, 217 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:55,800 compared to the 1.5 million dead people in France? 218 00:18:55,800 --> 00:19:00,640 What does it weigh compared to the 15% of the French territory 219 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,360 that was devastated by the German army? Nothing. 220 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,640 When all the conditions had been read out, 221 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,920 Erzberger was asked if he would agree to the Armistice terms 222 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:11,440 on behalf of Germany. 223 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,920 For Erzberger, this is a really difficult position to be in because, 224 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,360 of course, he is also a patriotic German. 225 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:26,280 He does not want to put his name to something that is going 226 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:30,920 to be so hateful to many, many Germans. 227 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:35,000 Because this really spells defeat for Germany. 228 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,600 Erzberger had been presented with tougher terms than he could 229 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,320 possibly have imagined. 230 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:49,320 Then Foch and Wemyss told him he had just 72 hours to decide. 231 00:19:54,120 --> 00:19:57,760 Erzberger had to give them an answer by the 11th hour 232 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,400 of the 11th day, of the 11th month. 233 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,360 But he didn't have the authority to just sign away 234 00:20:05,360 --> 00:20:06,680 the future of his country. 235 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,400 The terms were too long to encrypt and radio back. 236 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,800 So a document had to be sent all the way to German High 237 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,240 Command, at Spa, 238 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,280 a journey of over 200 miles back across the Western Front. 239 00:20:33,120 --> 00:20:36,040 Erzberger tries to negotiate on this with Foch and says, 240 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,520 "Look, we're going to struggle to make his deadline." 241 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,800 And Foch is nonplussed, really, and says, "That's your problem." 242 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,920 Foch is inflexible about the deadline 243 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,280 because it's part of the game. 244 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:52,480 It's part of showing the enemy that he sets the rules. 245 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:09,200 It's an agonising wait, during which time Erzberger 246 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:14,240 has a lot of time to reflect on how he had got to that point. 247 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:23,680 The clever son of a tailor, Erzberger was a self-made man. 248 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:30,360 The journey that he had, to being the Imperial German representative 249 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:35,680 at these Armistice negotiations, is actually quite staggering. 250 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:41,080 He really, in a sense, pulled himself by his boot strings. 251 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,040 Erzberger knew that back in Germany there were many people 252 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,480 who weren't going to take these terms well. 253 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,920 People like the strategic mastermind of the German army, 254 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,760 General Erich Ludendorff. 255 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:04,160 I see in Ludendorff a man who is convinced that the normal 256 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,960 state is war, 257 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,760 that peace is abnormal - 258 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,880 it is only time between two wars - 259 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:17,760 a social Darwinist who believes in the benefit 260 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,080 of wars over humanity. 261 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,200 Ludendorff detested politicians like Erzberger, 262 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,880 yet was, in part, responsible for sending him to Compiegne. 263 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,360 When Ludendorff realised that Germany was losing the war, 264 00:22:34,360 --> 00:22:36,920 he didn't want the military to have to carry the can. 265 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:46,760 Ludendorff was seeking for a scapegoat, for putting 266 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:51,440 the blame of a defeat on shoulders that, so far, 267 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,760 had no say in this war. 268 00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:04,040 Now the people who had, as he phrased it, 269 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,680 "boiled the soup," they should eat it. 270 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:14,360 He was clearly using these people to say, 271 00:23:14,360 --> 00:23:17,680 "They who brought us into the mess should now 272 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,680 "actually get us out of it." 273 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,120 That's why Erzberger had been sent to negotiate. 274 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,560 The messenger had been delayed by the chaos of the Western Front, 275 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,920 where the German army was being pushed back, 276 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,920 but was putting up a fight. 277 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,400 He spent hours struggling to find a route through no man's land 278 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:01,800 to German territory. 279 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,040 GUNFIRE 280 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,920 Erzberger is just desperate for news, desperate 281 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:22,920 for an authorisation or some sort of guidance as to what he should do. 282 00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:26,040 He needed that answer back. 283 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:30,160 By this point, Erzberger will have been just exhausted. 284 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,560 Not knowing how these negotiations will eventually pan out, 285 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,880 I think he must have been, basically, 286 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,800 just at the end of his tether. 287 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,880 Wemyss has every reason to be nervous 288 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,720 about whether these terms will stick. 289 00:24:56,360 --> 00:24:59,640 There is a real possibility that the Germans 290 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,040 might actually not sign the Armistice. 291 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:07,120 If the terms are too Draconian, then why shouldn't they dig in, 292 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,200 to get ready to continue the conflict into 1919? 293 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,600 So Wemyss has good reason to be concerned. 294 00:25:20,120 --> 00:25:24,400 Awaiting news in London was the man who sent Wemyss to Compiegne, 295 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,400 British Prime Minister David Lloyd George. 296 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,880 Lloyd George is a bit of a chancer, a gambler, 297 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,280 I'd say. And he was ruthless. 298 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:42,480 He grew up without much money. He didn't go to university. 299 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,120 He was this figure who had come from the ranks, and I think 300 00:25:46,120 --> 00:25:49,040 he was someone who felt that he was a man of destiny, 301 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,680 you know, his hour had come. 302 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,640 Lloyd George saw the Armistice as a chance to crown 303 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,680 his political career, 304 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,160 to win the war for Britain and keep him at No 10. 305 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,040 He was a politician to his fingertips. 306 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,600 He gets elected to the House of Commons at 27, 307 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,720 and he's there for 55 years. 308 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,440 I think he was a humane, compassionate man. 309 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,080 And he felt that we needed to stop the war, because people were dying 310 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,560 and it seemed like a futile exercise. 311 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,840 David Lloyd George is very much seen as the man who can get the war 312 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,800 to a successful conclusion. 313 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,200 A conclusion that was up to Wemyss to deliver. 314 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,400 Extraordinarily, just as the messenger was stuck 315 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,440 on the Western Front, events in Germany were unfolding 316 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:47,840 at an incredible pace. 317 00:26:50,120 --> 00:26:52,760 That day, riots turned to revolution. 318 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,160 Armed protesters took to the streets of Berlin. 319 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,080 Furious at lives lost in a futile war, 320 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:06,480 they were threatening to shoot up the city unless heads rolled. 321 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,760 Ludendorff was a frightened man. 322 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:16,200 He immediately left Berlin, went into hiding. 323 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,800 A huge mob descended on the Reichstag 324 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,040 and demanded that politicians got rid of the Kaiser 325 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,960 and brought the war to an end. 326 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,600 Parliament contacted German High Command at Spa. 327 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,440 Either the Kaiser abdicated within minutes, or Berlin would fall 328 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:39,680 to the revolution. 329 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,920 Commander of the Army, General Paul von Hindenburg, 330 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,640 with tears in his eyes, met with Kaiser Wilhelm. 331 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,200 At 3pm, the Kaiser abdicated. 332 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,680 Germany was now a republic. 333 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,240 So, remarkably, when the messenger finally arrived with the Armistice 334 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,080 terms, it was no longer clear who was in charge. 335 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,520 10th of November. In just 24 hours, the deadline 336 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,080 given to Erzberger would pass. 337 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,240 For Wemyss, the worry in Compiegne when the news of the revolution 338 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,920 comes through is that there will be no government, 339 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:38,840 and with no government, Germany will not be able to agree terms. 340 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:44,240 It won't have a recognised authority and legal authority do that. 341 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,720 With no response from Germany, Wemyss's fears 342 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,160 seemed to be confirmed. 343 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:58,480 At 6:30pm, Foch sent a message to Erzberger, 344 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,120 reminding him that time was almost up. 345 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,840 The very fact that the Kaiser is abdicating, as far as Foch 346 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:12,880 is concerned, means the German army is not able to resist strong attack 347 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:16,720 from the Allies. 348 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,480 Foch saw opportunity. 349 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:31,400 He had hundreds of thousands of men and 600 tanks awaiting the order 350 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,320 to attack the German line. 351 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,880 For him, it will be a cup of tea. 352 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,480 Foch knows that, first, the German Army is at the end 353 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:46,440 of its capacities, and second, that there is a revolution in Germany. 354 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,600 So Foch is convinced that the Germans will yield, 355 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,960 and will accept each and every condition. 356 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,720 Wemyss, too, was thinking strategically. 357 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,680 So far the war had not presented him with a decisive naval victory 358 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,680 like Nelson's at Trafalgar. 359 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,840 Wemyss feels frustrated that there has been no Battle of Trafalgar. 360 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:18,760 And says, you know, "We will deliver Trafalgar. 361 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,960 "We will deliver the outcome at the Armistice." 362 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,440 Lloyd George also wanted to use the Armistice 363 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,880 to reassert Britain's role at sea 364 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,800 and help secure its empire. 365 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:37,320 The British strategy was Britannia rules the waves. 366 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:42,280 So it made sense to essentially de-fang Germany, to remove 367 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,920 all the naval infrastructure they'd built up, to prevent them 368 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,120 from starting a war, starting that kind of arms race again. 369 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,560 At 9pm, a message arrived for Erzberger. 370 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,160 It was from German High Command. 371 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,360 General Hindenburg told Erzberger to try and get concessions 372 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,200 from the Allies. But if he couldn't, sign anyway. 373 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,760 For Erzberger, the highest military leader in the land 374 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,160 does not feel we can continue fighting. 375 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,120 So he's not being told, "Do what you can, 376 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,000 "but otherwise we'll carry on." 377 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:35,440 There's a clear message - "Try and get the best outcome you can." 378 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,440 This Armistice gives clear conditions which are difficult 379 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,280 to swallow, and Erzberger was under no illusions, 380 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,560 even at the time, that this "walk of the cross," as he called it 381 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,360 in his memoirs, would be his cross to bear. 382 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,480 11th of November, 1918. 383 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,840 The war continued with unremitting savagery. 384 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:23,080 2,738 soldiers lost their lives on this last day 385 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,760 of the First World War. 386 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,080 Shortly after two in the morning, 387 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:36,240 with just hours left before the deadline, negotiations finally 388 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:37,840 began in earnest. 389 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,720 Erzberger only had a few short hours left to fight his corner... 390 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,080 ..with the fate of his nation on his shoulders. 391 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,640 By this point, Erzberger has been essentially on the road 392 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,720 for four days. So he will have had a little bit of sleep, 393 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:03,720 on and off. Certainly not in a position to argue as forcefully, 394 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:09,040 and well as he might have, under better circumstances. 395 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,800 As far as Erzberger is concerned, it's very much a case 396 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,400 of damage limitation. 397 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,880 Erzberger picked his fights carefully. 398 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,720 He had three priorities. 399 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:30,120 Foch had demanded the German army hand over 30,000 machine guns. 400 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,720 But Hindenburg told Erzberger the Army needed weapons to quell 401 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,960 the revolution that was still threatening to tear 402 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,360 the country apart. 403 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,040 Erzberger tries very hard in these negotiations, 404 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,720 these very uneven negotiations, to make little tweaks, 405 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,960 at least, to the conditions of the Armistice. 406 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,040 Foch was now so sure of victory, he agreed to reduce the number 407 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,160 of machine guns by 5,000. 408 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,400 Foch also agreed to Erzberger's request to decrease the Allied 409 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:10,400 occupation east of the Rhine by 30km. 410 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,720 Erzberger had at least secured some concessions. 411 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,000 He's proud of that. 412 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,560 His memoirs reflect this, the fact that he, you know, 413 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,040 "I managed at least to get them to reduce the zone of occupation 414 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,680 "by a few kilometres. 415 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:28,720 "Or to reduce the amount of military hardware we have to hand over." 416 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,520 He lists all this. These were my achievements. 417 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,680 Next, Erzberger turned to the naval demands. 418 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,720 Wemyss had insisted that the German Navy hand over 160 419 00:34:41,720 --> 00:34:43,600 of its prized submarines. 420 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:50,320 Erzberger knows that this was perhaps the most unpalatable 421 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,160 for the military and naval elites in Germany, 422 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:59,240 because the Navy, at that point, had not been defeated in war 423 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,240 and it was just a complete surrender 424 00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:06,360 that essentially hands Britain the German Navy on a plate. 425 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,640 Right up until the end, there is a fear that the German Navy 426 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:16,040 will come out and be a real threat to Britain through 427 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,760 the submarine campaign. 428 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,200 And certainly, in Wemyss's mind, as he reported, 429 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,080 there is no scope for negotiation. It is take it or leave it. 430 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,720 Wemyss had asked for 160 submarines because he hoped that would account 431 00:35:32,720 --> 00:35:34,080 for most if not all of them. 432 00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:39,080 He was told Germany didn't have that many. 433 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,080 So he said he would take whatever they had. 434 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,760 At the stroke of a pen, Wemyss secured the entire 435 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,240 U-boat fleet and his decisive naval victory. 436 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,760 Wemyss has a sense of... A sort of, 437 00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,160 I suppose, both impishness and celebration, 438 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,320 when he realises that by getting his figures wrong, 439 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,680 he's actually got the right result. 440 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,720 You know, there's no attempt to pretend he had greater knowledge 441 00:36:08,720 --> 00:36:12,160 than he did. No attempt to say that this was the result 442 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,600 of superior wisdom. 443 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,960 But it is a reflection, of course, of his determination 444 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,800 to make sure that this is the outcome. 445 00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:26,200 Then Erzberger made his most important request. 446 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,320 He pleaded with them to lift the naval blockade 447 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,280 that was killing innocent German civilians. 448 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,320 But Foch and Wemyss refused. 449 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,600 At 5:15am, the terms of the Armistice were finally agreed. 450 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:05,120 Not wanting to delay the end of the war a moment longer, 451 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,280 incredibly, only the last page of the agreement was typed out 452 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:09,680 for the men to sign. 453 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,000 You might think that Wemyss, having had no sleep, 454 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,640 would have felt exhausted, emotionally drained, 455 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,360 ready to go to bed. It's not what he says. 456 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,520 What he says is, "This is wonderful." 457 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:45,600 This, you know, "We've got there." This is a moment of success, 458 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,640 a moment of real achievement. 459 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:04,280 For Foch, after four years of total war, 460 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:09,320 of a horrible war, what he feels is victory. This is victory. 461 00:38:11,240 --> 00:38:13,920 Erzberger signed on behalf of Germany. 462 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:21,720 I think Erzberger is in no doubt that signing the Armistice 463 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:28,520 will expose him to a tirade of hatred from those who felt 464 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,200 that Germans should have continued to fight. 465 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:37,840 As he signs that document, I'm sure he must have realised 466 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,560 how fateful that action was, for Germany, 467 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,600 and for himself, personally. 468 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:51,240 Erzberger says to Foch, "People of 70 million can suffer, 469 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,840 "but we will not die. You will not get rid of us." 470 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,520 So a final act of defiance, perhaps. 471 00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:02,800 To which Foch simply replies, "Tres bien." 472 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:05,280 Very well. 473 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,040 Foch and Wemyss posed for this photograph on the steps 474 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,240 of the carriage. 475 00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:26,160 Erzberger wasn't asked to be in it. 476 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,840 The train left Compiegne and headed for Paris. 477 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,600 Aboard, a complete copy of the Armistice was finally typed out, 478 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,040 starting with the time hostilities would cease. 479 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,800 Every unit along the Western Front was ordered to stop shooting 480 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:17,880 at the 11th hour, of the 11th day, of the 11th month, of 1918. 481 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,240 CHEERING 482 00:40:27,240 --> 00:40:29,280 War was replaced by peace... 483 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,200 ..despair, by hope. 484 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:53,520 News of the Armistice travelled quickly around the globe. 485 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,320 The people of Paris, who just a few months earlier 486 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,400 were almost in reach of the German guns, breathed 487 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,320 a collective sigh of relief. 488 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,960 French Prime Minister Clemenceau had been supportive of 489 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,520 his army, urging them to fight on, even during the darkest moments 490 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:10,680 of the war. 491 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,040 Now, at the outbreak of peace, crowds rushed to embrace him. 492 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:22,160 Clemenceau was really happy. For the first time in his life, 493 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:27,000 he was almost speechless, and it was a feeling 494 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,840 of victory for France. And there's a success of his policy. 495 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,360 In London, thousands poured onto the streets 496 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,400 in a spontaneous celebration. 497 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,000 The Royal family waved from the balcony. 498 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:50,680 Then the tidal wave of joy moved to Downing Street, 499 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,280 where David Lloyd George was waiting. 500 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,840 For Lloyd George, it was a moment of great exaltation. 501 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,800 It was probably the finest moment in his career. 502 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,800 The appalling slaughter had come to an end. 503 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,560 And it was a great moment for the country. 504 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:15,720 We'd defeated the German Empire and the British Empire stood, 505 00:42:15,720 --> 00:42:17,560 really, at the head of the world. 506 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,680 In America, it was party time. 507 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,120 An impromptu ticker tape parade attracted thousands in New York. 508 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,800 Wilson's reaction was one of exhilaration. 509 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,960 He'd made the United States into a carrier of the message 510 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,360 that the world order could be changed. 511 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,520 This may not have been the Armistice that Wilson proposed, 512 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,560 but it was peace nonetheless. 513 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,840 The Allies weren't the only ones celebrating. 514 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,200 Even for the Germans, the end of such a bloody conflict 515 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:22,600 was initially met with relief. 516 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,120 Around the time the guns fell silent, Erzberger arrived 517 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,600 at Spa to report back to German High Command. 518 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,520 Erzberger is congratulated by Hindenburg for having done such 519 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,280 a good job. And others in the delegation also point out 520 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,760 that he fought like a lion, says one of the men who was there, 521 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,640 to try and get the best deal possible for Germany. 522 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:52,600 So there is a sense that his efforts are appreciated. 523 00:43:55,720 --> 00:43:58,640 Erzberger's memoirs make the point, they knew 524 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,400 it was the only thing they could have done. 525 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,760 For those actually in the trenches, the end of the war 526 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,960 brought a complex mix of emotions. 527 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:23,280 The silence was... I can only describe it as terrible. 528 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:25,840 Everything dropped away from me. 529 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,480 I thought, "Now, what do I do now? There's no objective. 530 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,840 "There's nothing in front of us. I've just got to wait." 531 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,760 You were scared stiff. 532 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,080 In the trench, you were all right. 533 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,360 If you kept down, snipers couldn't get you. 534 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,440 Those that didn't come back, 535 00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,680 that's the people that should be honoured. 536 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:01,920 Those that didn't. 537 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,080 They gave their life, and that is it. 538 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:19,600 As the world began to dust itself off after four years of war, 539 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,440 the main architects of the Armistice, 540 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:28,120 Lloyd George, Clemenceau, and Wilson, travelled to Paris to turn 541 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,560 its sketched out clauses into the terms for a permanent peace... 542 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,240 ..later known as the Treaty of Versailles. 543 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,960 The terms Erzberger had agreed to at Compiegne had been quickly set 544 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:49,440 in motion, and the consequences were already starting to unfold. 545 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,520 Britain's Admiral Wemyss had demanded that the Germans make 546 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,360 the largest surrender in naval history. 547 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,720 After the Armistice, the entire German Fleet had sailed 548 00:46:05,720 --> 00:46:08,560 across the North Sea to Britain, to hand itself over 549 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,320 to the Royal Navy. 550 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,760 Wemyss did regard what he'd achieved as a naval victory, 551 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,480 and was anxious to present it as that. 552 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,600 The German Navy is handed over, to all intents and purposes, 553 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,000 lock, stock and barrel, to Britain. 554 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,960 For some of Germany's sailors, the humiliation was unbearable. 555 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,800 So they decided to sink their own ships. 556 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:50,960 The entire German Navy was lost just off the north coast of Scotland. 557 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:03,240 The sinking of the German Navy, from all accounts we have, 558 00:47:03,240 --> 00:47:05,600 was an extremely traumatic event. 559 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:12,880 The naval officers were absolutely devastated at this happening. 560 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:20,440 And they blamed Erzberger personally for signing the Armistice, 561 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,080 for handing over the Navy to Britain. 562 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,720 Europe, after the war, was broke. 563 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,600 In France, Clemenceau started to take stock 564 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,800 of what was left of his nation. 565 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:53,080 France was the country which most suffered from the devastations 566 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:57,240 and destructions of houses, of fields, of factories. 567 00:47:57,240 --> 00:48:01,080 So the question of reparation was a crucial question 568 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,520 for all French people. 569 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,480 And the main motto in France would be, "Germans will pay." 570 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:14,080 In Britain, too, tens of thousands of wounded soldiers and war widows 571 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,160 desperately needed financial support. 572 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,360 The country's in a big amount of debt. 573 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:23,760 It's borrowed huge amounts of money to finance the war. 574 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:27,640 Lloyd George says, "Let the Germans pay for all the damage 575 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,720 "and destruction they brought." 576 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,400 Lloyd George says, "They will pay to the utmost farthing. 577 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,400 "The Germans will pay to the utmost farthing." 578 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,840 He's swept up by his own rhetoric. 579 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,640 However, if Britain and France had troubles, 580 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,560 it was nothing compared to Germany. 581 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:51,520 The reparations they had to pay, combined with the naval blockade, 582 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,720 led to a humanitarian disaster. 583 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,520 At least 300,000 men, women and children died 584 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,520 as a result of malnutrition. 585 00:49:03,240 --> 00:49:07,320 For Erzberger, the fact that he hadn't been able 586 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:11,960 to take out the continuation of the blockade would have worried him, 587 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:16,280 because hundreds of thousands of German women and children 588 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:17,680 continued to starve. 589 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,160 The backlash against the Armistice steadily grew. 590 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:39,200 And the war lord, General Erich Ludendorff, 591 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,880 started to rewrite history. 592 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:48,920 He now claimed that the German army was not defeated in the war. 593 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,520 And that Erzberger betrayed the trust of his country 594 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,080 when he signed the Armistice. 595 00:49:55,640 --> 00:50:00,320 The accusation that Erzberger had stabbed Germany in the back 596 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:05,240 obviously was upsetting for him, because he had acted in the best way 597 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,440 he thought he could to save Germany. 598 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:16,640 Erzberger becomes one of the most hated men of the new Republic. 599 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,160 There are countless articles written against him, 600 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,040 books published against him. 601 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,680 He is absolutely vilified, and aware of it. 602 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,640 Knowing that Germany had borne the brunt of the Armistice terms, 603 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,680 Wilson tried to ensure, at Versailles, 604 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:40,240 that some concessions were made, such is the French occupation 605 00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:43,000 of the Rhineland being declared temporary. 606 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,520 But the Allies did impose a final, additional clause. 607 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,880 Article 231, the notorious War Guilt Clause. 608 00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,800 Germany had to accept sole responsibility 609 00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,240 for the outbreak of war. 610 00:51:01,240 --> 00:51:04,680 And that was something that, basically, nobody in Germany 611 00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,720 was willing to accept. Erzberger included. 612 00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:12,840 The reparations on their own will have been a pill 613 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:17,520 that could have been swallowed, but combining it with this 614 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,720 allocation of blame and of guilt caused an uproar in Germany. 615 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:32,680 Despite the uproar, threatened with the resumption of hostilities, 616 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,160 the Germans had little option but to sign. 617 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,560 There were fierce critics on the Allied side too. 618 00:51:44,720 --> 00:51:48,960 Foch saw the Versailles Treaty not as a peace treaty, 619 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,840 which would settle things for ever. 620 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:02,400 And I quote here, "Merely an Armistice for 20 years." 621 00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,400 For Foch, it was the worst solution ever. 622 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:13,560 In his eyes, it is obvious that Germany is still existing, 623 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:18,040 and the conditions of the peace treaty being far too harsh. 624 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,520 The Germans of course will want to take revenge. 625 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:24,520 Of course. 626 00:52:32,240 --> 00:52:34,240 Revenge too was a concern for Erzberger. 627 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,960 Erzberger knew that his life was endangered. 628 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,240 There had been several attempts on his life. 629 00:52:43,240 --> 00:52:48,000 A hand grenade thrown into his office in the Reichstag, 630 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,560 and he was shot outside the courtroom and injured. 631 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,440 His friends are worried for him. 632 00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,480 He is advised to learn to shoot a gun, to defend himself, 633 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,480 which he refuses to do. 634 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:05,960 GUNSHOT 635 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:13,080 When Erzberger is assassinated, he is still a young man 636 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:16,080 with a young daughter of seven years old. 637 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,320 Erzberger's assassins were former German naval officers 638 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,560 who were still bitter about being forced to hand over their ships 639 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:32,800 by the Armistice. 640 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,920 It seems very tragic, Erzberger's fate. 641 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:43,600 Because he does seem to be somebody who puts his convictions 642 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,400 before his own personal advantage. 643 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:53,600 Erzberger's very much a person who did the right thing. 644 00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,920 And he did it really selflessly. 645 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:11,280 Meanwhile, General Erich Ludendorff returned to public life, 646 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,280 throwing his weight behind a new political movement. 647 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,600 In the 1920s and '30s, the resentment created 648 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:44,280 by the harsh conditions imposed on Germany proved fertile ground 649 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:45,480 for the far right. 650 00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:56,240 HITLER SHOUTS IN GERMAN 651 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,960 CROWD: Heil! Heil! 652 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:06,840 Hitler, a Lance Corporal during the First World War, 653 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,360 claimed to have wept when he heard the Armistice had been signed. 654 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,440 Once in power, he systematically dismantled the peace settlement. 655 00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,040 In France, the train on which the Armistice was signed 656 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:37,480 had been treasured as a monument to German defeat. 657 00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,040 They added a statue of Foch and a memorial 658 00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,240 featuring a slain German Eagle. 659 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:50,920 In June 1940, as Europe descended into the Second World War, 660 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,320 Hitler took a very public revenge. 661 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,800 The Fuhrer, with his generals, passes along in front of the guard 662 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,680 of honour, and salutes. 663 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,560 He demanded that the French surrender to him here, 664 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:24,000 in the very carriage where Erzberger, Foch and Wemyss 665 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:25,520 met in 1918. 666 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,560 With their leader, General Huntziger, 667 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,200 the French delegation arrives. 668 00:56:43,720 --> 00:56:46,680 After reading out the preamble and the German conditions, 669 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,560 the Fuhrer leaves Compiegne. 670 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:07,080 that the end of the First World War, the suffering and humiliation 671 00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:11,320 the Germans felt, was a cause of the next world war. 672 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,960 Those who had fought in the trenches had a clear message. 673 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,840 I don't think ever there should be any wars. 674 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,000 I don't believe in them. 675 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,080 Although I was a soldier, I don't believe in them. 676 00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:36,760 Not after what I've seen, anyway. 677 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:45,600 The age between 17, and 23 or 24, 678 00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,920 and you had to be fighting in a war. 679 00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:56,240 There's no doubt about it, that the cream, the cream age 680 00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,480 were killed. It was unnecessary. 681 00:57:58,480 --> 00:57:59,680 What for? 682 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:04,960 It's painful. 683 00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:11,480 I've got three mates buried somewhere. 684 00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,040 I don't know where. 685 00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:18,360 It's too many. 58755

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