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in California the worst measles outbreak

in 15 years is spreading virus is

roaring back into the headlines tonight

an outbreak somehow traced to someone

who had probably caught measles abroad

visited Disneyland

and may have sneezed measles on the

march in America this outbreak is

showing no signs of letting up there are

already more cases this year number

tripled to 644 measles cases reported in

27 states I mean is this all basically

because of the anti-vaccination movement

because parents aren't vaccinating their

kids yeah you know I think so a bill

that would ban exemptions from childhood

vaccines is advancing through the

California Legislature we are offering

legislation though abolish the personal

belief exemption I think you're starting

to see why it is that mandates are so

important there has been some inaccurate

information circular circulating about

vaccines mostly stemming from a British

study linking vaccines to autism still

continued here the vaccine cause autism

even though that's been debunked

repeatedly and thoroughly debunked you

may have heard vaccination causes autism

and one out of a hundred and ten

children fuck that total bullshit

doesn't the bill requiring children to

be vaccinated has passed with bipartisan

support every child must meet

immunization standards before joining

public schools private schools and

daycares I would strongly encourage

everybody look at the science look at

the facts CDC the Center for Disease

Control can give you good information

get your children vaccinated I have

waited a long time to tell my story and

I want to tell the truthfully I was

involved in deceiving millions of

taxpayers regarding the potential

negative side effects of vaccines he

lied about the scientific findings

the CDC can no longer be trusted to do

vaccine safety work can't be trusted to

be transparent

the CDC can't be trusted to police

itself just a few thoughts

William W Thompson senior scientist US

Centers for Disease Control and

Prevention

hello

but was sitting at my desk where I teach

at Simpson University my phone rings and

it's dr. William Thompson very well I

don't know how this is all gonna play

out

you have a son with autism and I have

great shame now when I meet families

with kids with autism because I I have

been part of the problem my son Steven

was born in February of 1998 two weeks

after his 15 month vaccines then he lost

all language he lost all eye contact

he'd pick him up and he would just hang

limp this is a time where CDC was just

starting to do these studies on vaccines

and autism as a scientist I have over 60

technical and scientific publications in

major international scientific journals

and I was contacting the CDC and was

deeply critical of their studies and so

the CDC decided that the scientist who

was going to interface with me at that

time was dr. William Thompson because I

was on his back because he didn't like

what I was saying about the statistics I

received a letter from a CDC attorney in

2004 saying that I was no longer

permitted to contact the CDC fast

forwarding to 2014 Thompson said to me

Brian if you listen to me and if you do

what I tell you to do I can guarantee

you will be able to access a treasure

trove of data and I would like to guide

you through these steps

so I want it to be researched I want to

be valuable to you I want you to have

someone in the system for years I had

been trying to crack this edifice of the

CDC and just getting little glimpses of

what was not right the CDC has put the

research ten years behind because the

CDC has not been transparent we've

missed 10 years of research because the

CDC is so paralyzed right now by

anything related to autism I am a

licensed clinical psychologist and a

board certified behavior analyst in 1978

I want to say the prevalence of autism

was about 1 in 15,000 children it was a

very rare disorder I was working at a

clinic at UCLA which was pretty much the

only known Center for treating children

with autism and we had maybe six to ten

children who we were working with

somewhere around the early 90s shortly

after I opened card the growth of autism

has been so high and so rapid that I've

never felt like I could ever catch up

anymore from a official diagnostic

perspective the way that we define

autism we were looking at deficits in

two areas the first is social

communication and social interaction and

in that area we require three specific

symptoms to be present symptoms such as

no social emotional reciprocity no

nonverbal communication that means eye

contact for instance or no development

of relationships

the second required area of deficit is

the presence of stereotypic repetitive

restricted behaviors and these are

things my

hands flapping body rocking insistence

on routines being the same one of the

new additions is the the presence of a

sensory dysregulation if a child has an

inability to sense things correctly not

necessarily hearing things the way we do

that could be classified as a symptom of

autism so if you have five symptoms - in

the area of repetitive behaviors and

three in the area of social

communication deficit then you will get

a classification of what's called autism

spectrum disorder ASD we begin though as

always keeping them on it breaking news

tonight just hours ago the british

medical journal BMJ did something

extremely rare for a scientific journal

it accused a researcher andrew wakefield

of outright fraud I got a call on the

19th of May 1995 from a mother telling

me the story of her child

his regression into autism following a

vaccine and I said how can I help you I

know nothing about autism you've come

through to the wrong number and she said

no doctor my child has terrible

gastrointestinal issues and no one will

take them seriously I was an academic

gastroenterologist doing research with a

particular interest in Crohn's disease

and ulcerative colitis inflammatory

bowel disease I knew nothing whatsoever

about autism when I was at medical

school it was so rare we weren't all

about it we heard a succession of

stories which were very very similar

medicine is about pattern recognition

and there was a clear pattern emerging

so we decided a group of us including

the world's leading pediatric

gastroenterologist at the time led by

Professor John Walker Smith decided that

these children merited thorough

investigation well dr. Wakefield has

been shown used absolutely fraudulent

data

he created a fake paper the journal

allowed it to run all the other studies

were done showed no connection

whatsoever again and again and again so

it's an absolute lie that has killed

thousands of kids and what we discovered

and reported for the first time was this

link between what appeared to be a novel

type of intestinal inflammation and

autistic regression in previously

developmentally normal children and

among those the majority had regressed

into autism according to their parents

following the measles mumps rubella

vaccine

it wasn't our place to censor their

story because maybe uncomfortable for

Public Health our job was to report that

story accurately in order that it might

lead to further investigation and the

paper explicitly said this paper does

not prove an association between MMR

vaccine and the syndrome described more

work is needed to resolve this issue

that was the conclusion of the paper as

an investigative medical journalist I've

spent the last seven years working on

one of the best medical talk shows in

the world we know in medicine that there

have been many many studies proving that

vaccines do not cause autism but the

problem I have always had with that is

thousands and thousands of parents all

telling the same story my child got a

vaccine usually the MMR vaccine and then

that night or the next day broke out a

fever and then when they came out of the

fever lost speech lost the ability to

walk basically regressed into what we

know as autism and never came back

doctors used to be told to listen to the

patient that was the cornerstone of

medicine as we know it but something's

changed where the patient doesn't know

what they're talking about and these

parents with their story of their

children have just been written off as

though they have no idea what's really

going on with their child I have two

kids and anyone that has children knows

that when we first have babies we are

overly sensitive to every little hiccup

every cough every sniffle so to say that

a parent was just unaware that their

child had issues and suddenly they

realized at one year later that all they

have autism that doesn't make sense to

me and so I wanted to look into this

story and find out what is this

disconnect between medicine science and

real parents

I couldn't wait to be a mom I remember

specifically before we even got married

talking about how important children

would be in our lives

I wanted a daughter first and I wanted a

son and we were planning on having four

children we were going to be the most

perfect parents that we could be Bella

was born and that was a wonderful

experience

angelic perfect child hit all her

milestones I got pregnant with Billy

quite quickly Claire let's say hello to

Billy we've now got a beautiful girl a

beautiful boy and dice is just amazing

so two four and six months Billy had his

normal baby vaccines a little bit

Snively chesty coldy after maybe the

last one so me in my perfect mother mode

rush to the doctor you know eating okay

don't give him anything yes you need to

give them antibiotics just to make sure

there's not an infection in that it

didn't clear up rushing back to the

doctor he needs more antibiotics let's

just keep this going in him and I

remember my mother calling out my

mother's of homeopathic hippie and

calling out saying what are you doing

chucking loads of antibiotics danielson

for what I'm saying to a month with all

due respect you're an artist and their

daughters so they know best he was

Jewish MMR vaccinations at 12 months so

the morning exactly to the day my friend

she said to me listen I've heard that

there may be a problem with this vaccine

about take Billy for me in the mouth

what is the matter with you if there was

a problem with vaccination it would be

headline news the doctor would be

calling me up saying do not bother

coming in this is not a safe acting none

of that is happening you're being

negative you're being careless and

you're listening to what some rumor that

you heard somewhere Billy could become

deaf if I don't take him in now you get

in the center you know most of the

evidence linking measles with autism is

kind of settled down and most of the

doctors and scientists agree that it

probably isn't the major cause I've been

working in Pediatrics for almost 20

years

I think most pediatricians view vaccines

as their the number one thing they do

for kids I'm young enough to not

remember the days of kids in an iron

lung because they were battling polio

you know polio has essentially been

eradicated from this country in 98 the

the Wakefield study came out my son had

just been born that study kind of

pointed a finger at the MMR as a parent

I was scared to give the MMR to my son

and as a matter of fact we I didn't give

it to him on time because I wanted to

see I wanted to see what additional

studies would show and overtime

additional studies did show that no no

it's safe and so he did get the the

vaccine you know if everybody stopped

vaccinating we'd be going back to the

dark ages

when a CDC scientists who'd been there

at that time 17 years

tells you this is how you access data it

didn't take me very long to realize oh I

better do what he says because he knows

what he's talking about I just want to

tell you one thing right now I'm sitting

in a very pretty position in terms of

providing you a lot of information he

asked me what what data sets are you

getting requests and I said well I'm

gonna request two of the studies that

you've done on Tamera saw the mercury

containing preservative that's used in

some of the vaccines and he said well

that's fine but I want you to request

the MMR data set first and this is the

study by Frank de Stefano and his

colleagues in 2004 it was the one study

where we could end up creating a mess

while the CDC tried to soothe you know

tried to sort out something they

couldn't understand today penny got the

MMR was a living nine that's what saved

my life to be on this video I came in

and I saw him lying in his cot listless

he started this uncontrollable shaking

uncontrollable shaking imagine coming

out of a frozen moment shaking like this

and I remember she grasped him and held

him really tight to her chest

who the media fear and we get to

hospital we wash him in doctors are

coming in and looking at him that's when

they said he's had a reaction he's had a

seizure this is normal this is common

for many many children you have this

this vaccination it's absolutely okay

he's going to be fine nobody ever told

me that there would be any side effect

to any of the vaccinations my children

had

following his febrile convulsion that he

had the same day of the MMR we were told

to take him home the night he seemed he

seemed just very very sleepy

finally didn't really ever wake up she

the Billy that we had before

for me it became really necessary to

start looking at what types of medical

issues are these children going through

what are the other factors that have

affected them that have brought them to

this level of symptomology that we call

autism this is now probably the mid 90s

I came to notice that there was a very

high use of antibiotics amongst these

children but B what became pretty

interesting was seeing the number of

families who were reporting that their

child had a regressive type of behavior

occurred right after their vaccinations

a lot of these parents were showing me

footage of their children who had been

completely developing normally until 18

months and then all of a sudden post

vaccination had developed incredible

regression children who had speech

anywhere close to fifty to a hundred

words and have completely lost all of

their words children who were extremely

attached and interactive with their

parents and had suddenly become isolated

no longer responding to their own name

this was all happening right after their

MMR vaccines

my oldest son Ian was born normal

developing normally he was this

beautiful boy and we ended up at our

12-month visit which is this one year

then they gave him multiple vaccines at

once and within seven days he had a

hundred and four fever and a rash all

over his body he had previously been

noted and in our videos home videos that

he was walking and actually running at

that point seven days after the vaccine

he was no longer able to do that

was falling down he became a really sick

sick little boy so the question for

those of us investigating autism his age

of exposure to MMR a risk for autism and

in order to understand why that might be

you have to understand something of the

history of MMR vaccine in 1987 there was

an MMR vaccine that was being used in

Canada produced by SmithKline Beecham

and that vaccine caused meningitis it

was recognized quickly and that vaccine

was withdrawn in Canada however in the

same month that it was withdrawn in

Ontario it was licensed in the UK the

name was simply changed from tri verax

to plethoric s-- in the UK it was used

for four years and likewise it caused

meningitis and had to be rapidly

withdrawn it was a public outcry there

was an acute loss of confidence by the

public in vaccine policymakers and the

vaccine should at that point have been

destroyed

it wasn't it was then shipped to

developing countries like Brazil where

it was used in a mass vaccination

campaign and there was an epidemic of

meningitis it was entirely predictable

now scientists studied that epidemic and

what they found is that the risk for

meningitis was associated with age of

exposure the younger you got the MMR

vaccine and the greater the risk of

meningitis for people like me

investigating autism the question was is

there a similar risk in autism his age

of exposure to MMR a risk for autism

just as it was for meningitis we shared

with the US Congress and the CDC the

hypothesis the story has told to us at

which we have an obligation to report is

that the majority of children regressed

following a period of normal development

in the face of MMR vaccination that does

not mean it is the cause of the disease

the institute of medicine is a body of

scientists and physicians that review

the available data on back

safety and then advise our government on

vaccine research policy

well because Annie Wakefield had put

forth this theory that the age of which

you received the MMR may increase your

risk of autism the IOM looked to the CDC

to do that very study it was a study

about timing does the earlier you

receive the MMR vaccine increased the

risk of autism when we talk about the

MMR study nobody had ever requested

those data because it was a big secret

that you can do it Thompson told me to

email such and such a person and then on

the inside I also found out that one of

the people preparing these data sets for

me was Bill Thompson they don't really

want people to know that this data

exists again you know I just can't

believe we actually got you that data

Thompson couldn't send these documents

directly to Brian hooker because that

would have been illegal or Thompson

identified was a legal loophole that is

referred to as a citizen's request that

allowed Thomason to deliver to Brian

hooker potentially classified

information in a legal way

you get checked in England with your

babies at certain times health by health

visitors to nine months Billy had his

full-blown check and it says no parental

concerns baby laughing babbling talking

so we passed that with flying colors

18 months is when they next come in and

by this time we know there's something

seriously wrong with Betty probably

within five or six days the first signs

really was this vacancy he wasn't the

same smiley little baby that he was

before he had a blank expression then

the diarrhea kicked in his tummy started

to get bigger and bigger bloated look

hard bloated tummy he would start to

walk on tiptoes his hair fell out with

dreadful high pitch scream sort of whiny

scream developed from him and then came

the head bang the constant banging

against his crypt the constant banging

against the floor or a wall or anything

that he could find to bang his head on

he would thrash it and thrash it John

and I would lie in bed at night just

listening to this thud thud thud thud

there's nothing he's now not even

noticing his sister who used to play

with John comes through the front door

after work no recognition that we were

his parents or this child even belong to

us nothing nothing I mean that was the

time where a boy changed from what he

was to a real tragic tragic case of

child who regressed into this autistic

state and lost everything lost

everything

the CDC the way that they do research

studies is very reactionary they look at

something that's creating impress and

creating a buzz that could actually

lower vaccination race and that's what

they study they don't study vaccines

proactively so if Andy had never done

his original study gotten that published

and a Lancet would have never created

the uproar that rightfully it should

have created then a CDC would have never

studied this the press conference for

The Lancet paper was called by the Dean

of the Medical School who was the

chairman of the media committee I had

done an extensive research into measles

vaccine safety and MMR vaccine safety in

the pre licensing phase in other words

what safety studies had been done before

these vaccines were put onto the market

and in to children the 250 page report

was compiled by me showing that the

vaccine safety studies for MMR in

particular were lamentable they were

lamentable there many many assumptions

have been made about the safety of this

vaccine and there had been problems

which had been airbrushed so I wrote to

my colleagues and the Dean and I said

going forward there are going to be

questions about what parents should do

next I cannot in new conscience support

the continued use of the MMR vaccine

having done this research I said I will

continue to vigorously support the use

of the single vaccine but can no longer

support the use of the triple MMR

vaccine so the Dean as chairman of that

committee had three choices he could

have not had a press conference he could

have banned me from the press conference

or when the question came up as

inevitably it would what the parents do

next about vaccinating their children

he knew what my response would be he

could deflect the question to someone

else when the question came up on the

day he directed it straight to me all I

recommended at that press conference was

the parents opted for the use of the

single vaccines single measles single

mumps

single rubella until the issue had been

resolved scientifically what happened

when I made that recommendation

unilateral decisions were made by the

government in the UK to withdraw the

importation license for the single

vaccines Merck opting in the u.s. to

cease the production of the single

vaccines giving parents no option I said

to a senior representative of the

Department of Health why if your

objective is to protect children against

serious infectious disease why would you

take away the option of how parents do

that and she said because if we allow

parents the choice of single vaccines it

would destroy our MMR program in other

words the concern was for the protection

of the program over and above the

protection of children

no one's career has ever been advanced

in the medical industrial complex by

being outwardly and openly critical of

the vaccine industry I'm mark

blacksville father of a daughter

diagnosed with autism back in 1998 I've

written two books that have come out of

the autism movement have been projected

into autism advocacy ever since Mikkel

was born typical everything was fine was

developing normally through her first

birthday we had vivid memories of you

know early language joint attention lots

of play she was adorable beautiful cute

and then somewhere in the months after

she began to slip away and she lost

language and she began to retreat into a

world of her own and at two years nine

months we got a formal diagnosis of full

syndrome autism it was a hopeless

pessimistic future that was laid out in

front of us she was gonna be disabled

for the rest of her life

likely to be non-vocal in an institution

and that the best thing we could do was

to accept the inevitable part of the

story we heard from the Harvard experts

was autism was genetic it was low and

relatively constant prevalence the more

I learned the more clear that was that

that whole Orthodox view was false

completely false

revolutions only happen in science when

there is an anomaly an anomaly that the

older orthodoxy can't explain with

autism the anomaly was the explosion in

cases which meant that what people were

trying to describe as a genetic

neurologically based condition couldn't

be genetic it could only be

environmental it could only be some set

of things that it happened to children

and you had to ask the question what

might it have been one of my personal

training clients was the director of

programs for LWT London Weekend

Television this guy said why don't you

program and people that there may May

there may be someone out there with this

condition he said this is gonna be an

unbelievable story nothing to lose right

now this child is either gonna kill

himself cause he's gonna smash his head

to pieces or we're gonna go insane

because everybody here is miserable

that program was aired and we received

250,000 email hits computers what kind

of knew then the whole internet can do

to think ours crashed we'd set up a

Billy told me website just in case

somebody one person might be able to

help us crashed the television stations

computers crashed they had never seen

anything like this before

the parents had exactly the same story

as us antibiotics summer chickenpox a

lot vaccine bang the symptoms all of the

same the diarrhea the constipation the

hype pitch scream story and it was

paulie's idea to put all of this stuff

together in a magazine called autism

file that's all of the questions and

maybe someone can help these questions

from these parents were not being

answered by the doctors that they went

to see they came to us out of

desperation and we had 45,000

subscribers within four months

when I originally got the MMR autism

data I came up with my own analysis plan

and I step through logically and

systematically how the data should have

been approached

I looked first of all at males versus

females then I looked at black males the

relative risk of them receiving an

autism diagnosis was astronomical it was

highly statistically significant I

really had to scratch my head and say I

know nothing about the MMR vaccine and

so that's when I originally called handi

Wow really after everything that had

happened everything we'd all been

through everything that the families had

suffered for the last 15 years and the

CDC had known all along

there was this MMR autism risk as I

started to divulge more the

conversations and I think it really hit

him that this was a major crack in the

wall of the CDC the first thing that

Thompson did was the plot a graph a

graph of percentage of children

vaccinated against age at first MMR

vaccination the children with autism are

represented by the pink line the

children without autism by the blue line

now if there's no link between early MMR

and autism those two lines should track

together whatever the age at first MMR

and they do track together until they

get to 15 months then they separate and

they continue to separate thereafter

this was their first indication that MMR

vaccine was causing autism and that

finding alone ROC Thompson back on his

heels this was a huge issue for Andy so

I said to Brian Brian are you recording

these conversations recording phone

conversations was not really palatable

to me on almost seemed cruel whistle

those can disappear as easily as they

came they're like a fish on a hook and

your job is to get them into the boat

simple walked at 12 months so he had

been walking for an entire month before

he went in for the next set of

vaccinations the minute we walked into

the pediatric office Lu his twin she

screaming her head off I mean she knows

what's going on she doesn't want the

doctor touching her I look up and there

she's got the shots lined up three for

him three for her by the second shot

Lucinda had flipped herself over so I

had to stop looking at what I was doing

unstrap her get her out wait a minute I

get her out and I calm her down a little

bit and I look over he's screaming I

look at the shots and I noticed that one

of hers was gone there are only two

shots left for her and I asked the the

nurse practitioner I said what happened

to that other shot she says oh oh my

goodness I gave it to him I said which

one was it she said it's the it was the

other MMR I said call the doctor

this baby is screaming his head off

you've given him an extra shot I don't

know what the effects of that's gonna be

we're leaving and I left so she never

got her shots I go home this baby cry

cry cry I put him down on his little

blanket he starts banging his head on

the floor banging his head on the floor

next morning I go in this room and he's

staring in this in the space and he's

living around like this as if you know

he's a bit paralyzed not the baby who

was always doing this every morning

smile for me to get him out of bed and I

pick him up and he does this and I said

what has happened to my baby so I call a

clinic and I said I think my child's had

adverse reaction to those those shots

yesterday she says no no no I'm waiting

for representative from Merck I don't

think it was a reaction to that

bill Thompson looked at

african-americans he saw that those

african-americans that got the MMR on

time were two point six four times more

likely to get an autism diagnosis than

those african-americans that receive the

MMR after three years of age among the

blacks the ones that were getting

vaccinated earlier but more likely to

have autism at that point the group of

researchers that was working on this

particular study they were having weekly

meetings

Colleen Boyle who was the head of

developmental disabilities branch a

marshal and Juergen Alsop who was one of

Thompson's direct supervisors Frank de

Stefano who was the head of the

immunization Safety Office and then a

postdoctoral research associate named

Tanya bassoon in that meeting Thompson

brought up the fact that

african-americans were showing a highly

statistically significant risk of autism

if they got the MMR on time in these in

these closed-door meetings I mean do

people say oh well this is unacceptable

or is it just do they always say oh this

can't be right or I'm not going to lie

but I also don't want to say things to

you right now that aren't there are some

written form right the analysis

regarding the African Americans was the

eighth on the Richter scale earthquake

that just shook through the CDC I take

him to see the pediatrician that I know

and she looks at me she closes the door

and she whispers she says Sheila I

believe he has autism I said what like

ramie she says something like that some

will refer you out to a neurologist and

we go see the neurologist the next week

he says he has every classical symptoms

of autism I do not believe this I was

angry when he was explained it to me

what canis autism is he told me he was

born that way I said no he wasn't

clearly there was a very high risk of

autism and african-american children but

here's the thing we know that autism is

four times more common in boys and so to

see that effect mirrored in the

african-american children was a

compelling finding when I looked at

african-american males only the relative

risk was 3.36 it just blew my mind

and that's when I wanted to call Bill

Thompson on the phone in his statement

to me was oh you found it that appears

in the final publication is that the

race in general is downplayed of course

it

temples twin is amazing she is fluent in

three languages she speaks French like a

native she is an A student

she plays classical piano with all of

the guilt that I feel from that day one

of the best decisions I made for her

what's the walk out of that office

without her being vaccinated at the end

of this journey I don't want to be one

of those mothers standing there saying

what I wish I would have could have

should have done I want to be able to

say I gave it everything that I had I

gave it my best shot

his twin is going until he loveth great

and for someone who still can't manage

to cross the street

no I migrated police here you bet I'm

grateful my son live he would live a

fulfilling life vaccines build up your

immune system and make you stronger to

fight off disease a vaccine safe yes the

studies involving millions of children

have shown no connection between

vaccines and autism

due to schedule the CDC's own vaccine

schedule which we are required to adhere

to as parents in America recommends that

our children get the MMR between 12 and

18 months but in this hidden data

provided to us by William Thompson it is

clear that for African Americans this is

actually the most dangerous time to

deliver the MMR a CDC in my opinion is

is one of the it's where I go to if I

need information about an infectious

disease I

I probably either go on their website or

open one of the reference books every

day that building is filled with a lot

of scientists that are smarter than me

the analysis plan is one of the most

important parts of a scientific study

it's the the laws or the rules by which

the scientist will adhere to while doing

this study and this analysis plan is put

together by the scientists themselves

sometimes their superiors weigh in but

once they've locked that analysis plan

they've said this is how we're going to

use the data and you can't deviate from

that analysis plan or you're at risk of

fraud scientific fraud did they deviate

from the analysis plan after seeing

something that they didn't like if they

did we have a real problem

Thompson not only played a major role in

developing the analysis plan he was the

numbers guy he was responsible for

collecting the data analyzing the data

and presenting the results and by

November 2001 the results were in now

with the MMR autism 1 we had an analysis

plan that we were supposed to execute as

was written and you know I'm going to be

sharing these draft analysis plans that

we had and you can see whether we did

what we said we're gonna do that

analysis plan had been agreed upon not

only by the co-authors but also CDC's

superiors in order to conceal the effect

of the MMR what they had to do was to

reduce the number of children in the

study in order to reduce what is

referred to as the statistical power

that is the ability of the study to

detect a difference if one genuinely

exists in a analysis plan they had

agreed to use two sources of information

the first was the children's school

records and the second as the children's

Georgia birth certificate records

so while every child in the study had a

school record only half of the children

in the study had a Georgia birth

certificate record because the other

half had been born in other states so

the analysis plan was explicit

information on a child's race was to

come from their school record

but when confronted by data that

revealed an increased risk of autism in

african-american children they deviated

from their analysis path they chose to

get the race data not from the school

record but from the Georgia birth

certificate record instead of having

3,000 individuals in the study it went

down to about 1800 the relative risk

went down from 2.6 4 to 1.8 but more

importantly that relative risk was no

longer statistically significant and now

I ask you to step forward to receive the

prize from the hands of His Majesty the

King

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I am Rick Mutiny MD obtained a prize for

my contribution to the discovery of the

AIDS virus the vaccine out is a

direction he's a worldwide problem not

only in this country in Europe but also

in Asia even in Africa the MMR

vaccination in a very early stage of

infancy before Arastoo was more

prominent in American children and this

was hidden for some time this fall of

course I was very high to my opinion in

the ethics of medicine science CDC in

the past has done a very important work

on the discovery of AIDS so I'm very

disappointed to see an different

situation with CDC did anyway seventies

shortly after Julie Garba Dean became

head of the CDC I began to communicate

with her and asked her to come to my

office there didn't seem to be objective

research going on there was the CDC

trying to promote vaccinations for

children and then they were doing the

safety research themselves in feces

judgment the best public policy is to

continue vaccination unchanged while

aggressively working to try to identify

causes and developmental disabilities

the CDC I just thought was

institutionally conflicted the CDC can't

take money directly from pharma but they

can set up a foundation and the

foundation can attract donations from

commercial interests and does Merck

GlaxoSmithKline now Pfizer

sanofi-aventis have huge

multibillion-dollar vaccine in

businesses they're profitable they've

grown because some of these new hi-tech

vaccines that are patented that are

high-priced yet protected by this little

cocoon of regulatory capture in HHS

and and are guaranteed multi-billion

dollar franchises when I was working at

Merck I was the sales rep for Vioxx the

whole scandal started when it was

discovered that Merck had manipulated

data and covered up the fact that Vioxx

actually caused twice the amount of

heart attacks and strokes than the

placebo what I learned from that

experience was just because things are

on the market does not mean they are

safe I think we get into a very

dangerous territory with vaccinations if

a drug company gets just one vaccine

added to the schedule they can make

upwards of thirty billion dollars in one

year it's no secret I think they've

published their intention which is they

want to create an environment of

constant vaccination from cradle to

grave they want infant vaccines expanded

flu shots DTaP boosters Gardasil shots

meningococcal shots they want adult

vaccines they you know they want you and

me to come in and get a constant barrage

of shots and then they want vaccines for

the elderly we have a highly profitable

product because the safety testing isn't

as rigorous as a normal pharmaceutical

drug the gold standard is double-blind

placebo based long-term study and that

just isn't done with vaccines because

they're classified in a different way as

a public health measure and they haven't

been tested in combination with other

vaccines yet doctors give six to nine

doses per visit it's insane if

pharmaceutical drug was tested like this

it wouldn't be on the market but because

it's a vaccine and the safety testing is

less rigorous our children are being

experimented on I don't like to look at

autism from a behavioral perspective I

look at it from more of a what causes it

in each child when I want to define

autism I have to say that it's the

inability to detoxify the way you're

supposed to are at the rates that you're

supposed to and it all has to do with

this toxic overload these children are

not detoxifying from the vaccinations

same thing with GMO products the

pesticides in our food if I can prevent

the child from being exposed

two more toxins then when I'm teaching

the child at least the child's getting

better and not continuously getting

worse

without a doubt what's happened to Billy

has changed his life well I have on my

hands now as a 19 year old man he's six

foot two

he is volatile on good days Billy is

brilliant isn't angel on bad days the

slightest thing can trigger him and he's

scary I'm gonna go downstairs okay

I'm gonna kill daddy right now though

listen to me I'm gonna stay with your

painting a fine calm down okay the

reason they become aggressive and

dangerous in some cases is because they

have no ability to communicate because

mummy asked Kent but entering the sweet

corn this is your fault mummy if you

were not able to express your needs your

wants your desires your happiness and

sadness and so on you would become

aggressive that's often when we see the

worst part of autism we had to occupy

his room and use his video player and of

course that is a massive intrusion in

his space and he's he got very upset

that there's millions of means there's

millions of pulling Tommy's with vaccine

damage children I am telling you this

because I am NOT want you to live the

life that I've led I didn't want you to

go through the pain I did not want to

see you stuff up will family suffer that

is why I'm telling you I've no other

reason to tell you about it it's not my

concern my kids already damaged

I'm a senior research scientist here at

MIT and the computer science and

artificial intelligence laboratory I

have a bachelor's degree in biology from

MIT and I have MS EE and PhD degrees

also from MIT in electrical engineering

and computer science I became interested

in autism a long time ago when my best

friend at the time had a son who was

diagnosed with autism following an DPT

shot yeah I ran a high fever after shot

seizures a week later and then was later

diagnosed with autism we have to accept

the fact that autism is new that the

four nineteen thirty the rate of autism

in the world was effectively zero and

then for a long time it was one in

10,000 I got interested in studying

autism eight years ago when I saw the

numbers go up and I was quite alarmed

because I could see that the trend was

exponential growth and extra exponential

growth is extremely scary since we leave

the mid to late 80s we've gone from this

low prevalence environment to a rate of

increase where the trend is still

vertical we have not seen a flattening

in trend it's every couple of years the

CDC it provides a number of what

percentage of the kids are diagnosed

with autism and you've got the dots

going all the way back to 1975 you draw

the line it is a perfect exponential

curve if we assume that things are going

to continue as they have for the past 30

years into the future we can predict

that by 2030 to 80% of the boys born

will end up on the autism spectrum half

the children 80% of the voice

if you think this vaccine is only a

problem for african-american kids like

me you're wrong there is an even bigger

problem one that puts all kids at risk

and it's called isolated autism when the

CDC researchers set out to do the study

they asked themselves the question if

early MMR vaccine causes autism in which

children would we be most likely to find

this affect their answer is children

with no developmental concerns for the

first year of life children who were

perfectly healthy until they received

their MMR vaccine they called this group

isolated autism now this does not refer

to an isolated case of autism or an

isolated group with autism they isolated

autism and these were children who had

no comorbid conditions apart from their

autism no cerebral palsy no mental

retardation no visual or hearing

impairment no epilepsy and no birth

defects this risk group includes

essentially every healthy child in the

world I'm a single father raising a

fifteen-year-old severely autistic

nonverbal teenage daughter when she was

15 months old she received a round of

vaccines that included the MMR and the

DTaP she developed a high fever when the

fever broke she lost everything my

daughter was six weeks old when I took

her in for her vaccinations two hours

later she had five minutes seizure and

two hours after that she had another

five minutes seizure mom is here

the vaccination gave her severe brain

damage and she had seizures every day

for the rest of her life until she died

in my arms

at the age of 15 there is no good reason

to choose not to get a vaccine he got

his MMR and he got his DTP and within

days he stopped talking projectile

vomiting convulsions he went blind in

his left eye vaccines took our healthy

happy baby and made him unwell she lost

all acquired speech he lost his speech

he lost his eye contact like the flick

of a switch vaccines were unsafe I think

this would be an interesting and

reasonable discussion obviously some

minority get hurt by this stuff I don't

understand why this is controversial

vaccines are safe get vaccinated it's

like you know what shut the fuck up and

let me take every vaccine that Merck

wants to shut down my throat autism is

not a side effect of vaccine or to say

it another way cuz some people don't

want don't hear this well vaccines do

not cause autism hear this well hear

this well please hear this well hear

this well

vaccines can and do cause autism my

granddaughter Lily when my daughter if

my son was fully vaccinated my son

Jackson I have a healthy

typically-developing boy please hear

this well one day everyone will know the

truth about vaccines hear this well

I actually think the most interesting

results are the elevated ones or the

isolated ones that don't have other

comorbid conditions the effect is where

you would think it would happen in

isolated autism he saw a very very

strong effect specific to those kids

that got the MMR on time when Bill

Thompson ran those numbers he saw an

astronomical effect some of the numbers

were actually the relative risks were as

high as seven or eight times higher with

these kids that were diagnosed with just

isolated autism no other diagnosis

versus those controls because it sounds

small but it really is a big problem

because all healthy children no matter

what race are at risk for example my

sister's 18 months old

and she's supposed to get her and Lamar

shot right now but if she does she's

seven times more likely to get autism

then if my parents wait until after

three years old so I hope my parents

don't do it here's what's really scary

when we look at isolated autism we see

that there's a up to 7 fold increase in

the incidence of autism between those

that receive the vaccine between 12 and

18 months versus those that got it after

three years old but let's be perfectly

clear every child in this study had

received the MMR vaccine

what would the numbers be if you

compared children who got the vaccine

between 12 and 18 months versus children

that never got the vaccine at all this

is often referred to as the VAX versus

on vac study and the CDC refuses to do

this study even though every drug that

we take has been through this exact

study there's a group who take the drug

and then they compare it with a group

that do not take the drug and they see

are there more side effects and

complications with the group that takes

the drug so why does the CDC refuse to

do the VAX vs. on vac study probably

because when we look at the results of

this study we realize that the

risk would be astronomical and is likely

to be one of the major reasons we're

seeing this skyrocketing increase of

autism worldwide just like the

african-american children they went into

the room and they sliced and diced the

data in an effort to get rid of that

effect

this is Colleen Boyle's meeting notes

how they plan to present the data by

these age groups that after the fact

when the data are in she writes reformat

and then she puts in new age groups even

this failed to achieve the desired

effect since in the end they simply

omitted the relevant findings from the

paper altogether just looking at I'm

like oh my god I cannot believe we did

what we did but we did yeah so it's all

there it's all there and you in the

health field you who run our health

agencies in this country who are sitting

here today you have an obligation to

these kids that you just saw there to

make sure that these studies are

complete thorough so that everybody

knows that we have all the facts and you

don't have that one of the things we did

because this was such an important topic

was to have them be sworn in so they

were under oath and if they were

doctoring the results of a study and

they did it deliberately they committed

a felony it used to be one in 10,000 and

now it's one in more than 250 kids that

are being damaged in this country that

are autistic now those kids are gonna

grow up they aren't gonna die it's not

like a lot of diseases where they get

infected and they drop dead they're

gonna live to be 5060 years old now who

do you think's gonna take care of them

it's gonna be us all of us the taxpayers

and it's going to cost I think as you

said Miss Maroney trillions of dollars

so we can't let the pharmaceutical

companies and our government

cover this mess up today because it

ain't gonna go away and it's gonna cost

the taxpayers trillions more if we wait

around on it and for our FDA and HHS

health agencies to continue to hide

behind this facade that there have been

studies that conclusively prove

otherwise is just wrong - so the CDC

wasn't just doing this study inside of a

bubble in fact it was the exact opposite

they were under fire you had congressman

Dan Burton in front of the Congress

demanding answers about mercury and the

MMR and vaccine studies in the

connection to autism Dave Weldon

congressman from Florida is reaching out

to Julie Gerber dealing with serious

complaints on how he thinks this entire

issue is being handled on top of that

the Department of Justice is requesting

files and data from the CDC because of a

previous study called the rest' ratan

study that had so many anomalies it

looked like scientific fraud was taking

place so they were suspicious so then

you look at the emails that thompson's

provided to us and you see that he's

reaching out to his line manager dr.

Melinda Wharton throwing up red flags

saying I first spoke with you in

September of 2002 regarding the

sensitive results we have been

struggling with in the MMR autism study

how do you struggle with scientific

results I mean facts are facts data are

data that doesn't make any sense so you

got Dan Burton breathing down their

necks the Department of Justice is

requesting files and William Thompson

finds out that Colleen Boyle has brought

in a lawyer

to help her decide what materials are

too sensitive to provide to the

Department of Justice

this obviously freaks William Thompson

out because later in the email to

Wharton he says I will be hiring my own

personal attorney and it's extremely

unfortunate that we need to be concerned

about whether our own legal rights are

covered when participating in a study

such as this and what's going on here we

have government scientists lowering up

over a children's safety study clearly

this does not sit well in all with

dr. Thompson because at the end of this

email he makes what looks to me to be a

clear threat my level of concern has

also caused me to seriously consider

removing myself as an author on the

draft manuscript so then a few days

later Thompson Royce directly to dr.

Walter Ornstein head the National

Immunization program saying I am NOT

interested in taking all the political

heat that will go along with that study

Thompson has gone all the way to the top

of his department I mean we don't ever

get a response from Walter orange team

but Thompson is very clear on what

happened next the higher-ups wanted to

do certain things and I went along with

it in terms of chain of command I was

number four out of five dr. Thompson

talked about destruction of documents

and that in fall of 2002 there was a

meeting with the trashcan rolled in and

they selected documents to be destroyed

I let all the analyses would discuss

another thing literally everyone else

got rid of all their documents so the

only document that exists right now from

that study are mine these documents were

not a federal records they were very

important documents because they showed

a very strong statistically significant

effect he felt that quite rightly it

would be illegal to destroy those

documents and so in his office he kept

not only the hard copies but the

computerized files for that study there

was a dramatically different result

presented before and after the time

frame that Thompson alleged that these

data were destroyed if I never had the

documents before October 2002 there

would be nothing that would show that

they actually had the results in hand

and they decided to destroy those

results I filed a formal complaint to

the Office of Research integrity and the

Department of Health and Human Services

I heard that not long after the

complaint was filed and the letter

basically stated that every co-author

except for doctor

Thompson denied that any such meeting

was scheduled they denied that any

material was destroyed or thrown away

they were calling dr. Thompson a liar it

was their word against his

dr. Thompson predicted this would happen

there's things I haven't even shared

with you because I can't prove it and

that's what I struggle with I don't want

to share things with you that I can't

prove that there aren't hard records

because I am worried that the other four

people will collude and they know that's

not true

dr. Thompson provided meeting notes to

me for precisely the time where the

co-authors are claiming that no meeting

so look once you have the data a

scientific study like this is a

relatively simple process you just run

the data you get the results and then

you publish those results in the paper

in their own analysis plan this study

was only supposed to take six months

from May 2001 to December 2001 so if

they weren't destroying data why did

this study end up taking four years the

question everybody needs to be asking

the CDC is what the heck happened

between October 2002 and February of

2004 the reason you don't see anything

else circulating on the study it was

either behind closed doors for two years

Wow so after two years of secret

meetings behind closed doors

this definitely merges with the final

draft of the MMR study and they're going

to present it to the Institute of

Medicine people on the IOM move from

industry government academia government

industry and they then they bounce

around it's all the same people and

there wasn't a really good policeman and

us to really make sure that the vaccine

safety studies are done properly and

that they're done objectively yeah it

just didn't seem to me like we were we

were running a system that was credible

I had written to Julie Gerber ding and I

asked her to postpone the February 9th

Institute of Medicine meeting this

report the Institute of Medicine report

I want to postpone because of my concern

that this was not an exercise in

discovering the truth but was instead a

meeting being driven by a desire to

short-circuit important research and

draw premature conclusions

the problem is William Thompson being

the lead scientist he's going to have to

present their findings and he's not

happy about it

in fact he cell upset that he goes above

the lead author to Stefano above Walter

Hornstein all the way to the head of the

CDC dr. Julie Gerber ding and in an

email he says dear dr. Gerber ding I

will have to present several problematic

results relating to statistical

associations between the receipt of MMR

vaccine and autism basically saying I'm

not going to continue this lie if you

put me up there I'm going to tell the

truth Thompson was originally scheduled

to provide a briefing because he

basically told director Gerber ding that

he would have to say that there is a

causal association he was switched at

the last minute with Frank DeStefano was

able to report to the IOM falsely we

have found no association between MMR

and autism

the IOM was the point of no return I'm

so deprived of the truth

the IOM declared MMR vaccine safe it was

a rush to judgment to shut the door

permanently and completely on the mmm or

autism link it's absolutely appalling

that much of what I said turned out

exactly to be true they were trying to

short-circuit the reason

it's the lowest you know it's the lowest

point in my career that I went along

with that paper after their brilliant

work on the MMR study the Stefan owners

team received an award from the

Department of Health and Human Services

and then several years later dr. Julie

Gerber ding received an award of her own

a high-paid job as head of the vaccine

division at Merck clearly Merck

appreciated the work she had done

investigating their vaccine you know I

wrote a paper on my results on MMR and

it will include

something that I got from you Brian was

about to publish a paper using data that

could only have come from an inside

source at the CDC a whistleblower and

from that point forward William Thompson

was a marked man and he approached me

and said it's time to publicize the CDC

whistleblower ironically 12 years later

while Thompson is baring his soul to

brian hooker in front of Congress

Colleen Boyle is just peddling the same

old CDC fraud but this time it's to a

new player and that's congressman Bill

Posey from Florida I wonder if the CDC

has conducted her facilitated study

comparing vaccinated children with

unvaccinated children yet have you done

that we have actually done a number of

studies looking at the relationship

between thimerosal vaccines and autism

and other developmental disability the

lies from the CDC were still the same

the difference now is we had William

Thompson vaccines and their components

did not increase so clearly definitely

unequivocally you have studied

vaccinated versus unvaccinated we have

not studied vaccinated versus I'm back

meaning you my question you wasted two

minutes one time Brian had also

submitted a related paper to a journal

called Nature Neuroscience and

paper he had specifically referred to an

unnamed source at the CDC and my worst

fears were realized when a journalist

from Nature Neuroscience contacted the

CDC contacted Walter Ornstein the

message went on to Frank de Stefano who

sent it out to the co-authors saying

keep your heads down this may be coming

your way their fear was all of a sudden

we'd be dredging the river for Bill

Thompson I said to him Brian we've got

to do three things we have got to get

Thompson a whistleblower lawyer we've

got to make sure that his documents are

with Posey and we've got to reveal his

name whistleblowers are in danger only

as long as the only people who know

their identity are their enemies do

vaccines cause autism in the last 30

years the childhood vaccine schedule has

tripled while the u.s. autism rate has

skyrocketed from one in 10,000 to one in

50

dozens of published research papers show

that yes vaccines and autism are linked

yet the debate rages on in part because

of the 1986 national childhood vaccine

injury Act passed by Congress as a

result of pharmaceutical lobbying it

shields drug companies from liability

for injuries and deaths caused by the

vaccines they manufacture vaccines that

the federal government admits are

unavoidably unsafe instead of suing the

pharmaceutical company directly parents

are forced to petition the Department of

Health and Human Services and if federal

health officials oppose compensation the

case is argued before a Special Master

in the u.s. claims court many refer to

this as vaccine court here are some

shocking facts about the so called

vaccine court pharmaceutical companies

do not have to participate in the

proceedings at all taxpayers pay for all

damages the US Department of Justice

acts as the government's lawyer with

taxpayers footing the bill for their

defense

beginning in 2002 there were already

thousands of cases accumulating in

vaccine court and the average

compensation for autistic child is in

the range of five million dollars so

just do the math the government is

facing several hundred billion possibly

a trillion dollars in liability as the

autism epidemic grew they had to develop

a fraudulent study that would exonerate

MMR to deliberately defeat the cases in

vaccine court to avoid paying the

trillion dollars so the thousands of

autism petitioners were denied their

fare day in court by a corrupt and

deliberate obstruction of justice it is

one of the most unethical medical

decisions of all time because it was

made with knowledge to sacrifice these

children as an indirect affront to the

congressional mandate that they may all

be compensated

in the fall of last year I got a call

from an inside source who told me that

in two weeks there's gonna be a

whistleblower from the CDC who is going

to come out and say that the CDC had

committed fraud on the MMR study and

that they knew that vaccines were

actually causing autism I mean that's a

huge story unfortunately was a story I

would not be able to tell on a medical

talk show because a lot of our funding

was coming from the pharmaceutical

industry and we were also very good

friends with the CDC who had appeared on

our show many many times but I knew that

once this story broke two weeks later

that the mainstream news media would

pick it up Fox would be on it CNN was

would be on MSNBC we're talking about

the biggest medical story in the last

decade or two at least so that two weeks

came I saw the video that was posted by

Andrew Wakefield and Brian hooker and I

heard the words of William Thompson and

his confession oh my god I cannot

believe we did what we did we did it's

all there and I watched the blogosphere

though crazy tweets Facebook social

media everybody talking about it but not

one mainstream media source went

anywhere near the story in fact on CNN

someone put the story up on I report and

CNN took it down and in that moment I

realized wait a minute not only is my

medical talk-show being produced by the

pharmaceutical industry all of

television is we were never going to get

this story but we certainly did get a

story a highly contagious measles

outbreak major outbreak measles

outbreaks measles on the march in

America this outbreak is showing no

signs of letting up in 2014 the number

tripled to 644 measles cases reported in

27 states it's a really amazing to

consider the

a number of cases of autism every year

is and to contrast that to let's say the

number of children who acquired measles

by going to Disneyland

it's a tiny number of children who

acquired measles and it's a vast number

of children who are being diagnosed with

autism every day we don't know what

causes autism I mean that's fair to say

we're not sure the scientic community

what causes autism but we know that

vaccines do not now I'm not saying that

Sanjay Gupta is a bad guy in fact I

think that he tries to do a lot of good

just like many doctors do but if they're

being lied to by the scientific body

that provides them with their

information what happens to all of us

what happens if a good doctor sees the

same data that I saw so you're you're a

scientist basically so you're studying

this and you feel a hundred percent

comfortable you even said you have kids

so you're your family person

you would feel very how long have you

been a doctor in sort of what's your

area of specialty sure I've been a

family medicine physician for over ten

years now in treating families everyone

from newborns all the way up to my

oldest patient is 96

so do you administer vaccines as part of

that yes I do administer vaccines in our

clinic we followed the CDC

recommendations and we give that

information to our patients and we give

them a schedule of when their children

are going to need to be vaccinated and

so on and so forth there's something I

want to show you this is the formal

complaint about what they've been given

by William Thompson whistleblowing was

he you see okay there's all sorts of

reference materials in here and things

like that I'm just gonna give you time

to look at it study it as long as you

want okay when you feel like you have a

grasp of it it's going to get I know

it's gonna take some time appreciate you

taking the time all right okay so I have

sent you what William Thompson has said

is the fraud at the CDC all of that data

that was missing did you get a chance to

really look it over

it's sides it's really unbelievable how

blatantly the data was switched around

it made me question whether or not this

organization that's been mandating how I

practice medicine for the past ten years

but if they're lying about this or

leaving data out about this particular

study what else am I being lied to about

I'm still trying to digest it because

this study which was used to kind of

give the definitive answer to us

pediatricians that oh the MMR is not

related to autism I kind of feel like

I've been lied to when they set out to

do the study they wanted to look at the

data and interpret the data but then

there's a piece of data that they chose

to ignore the data they excluded was

really really significant think about

it's a big deal it is a big deal for a

physician to have to deal with the fact

that for the past 10 20 years we've been

potentially destroying the brains of

children everything I've been telling my

patients for the last ten years it has

been based on a lie and a cover-up

parents making decisions about their

children's health deserve to have the

best information available to them they

should be able to count on federal

agencies to tell them the truth

once Brian and I had outed bill Thompson

he got himself a whistleblower lawyer he

provided all of his documents on the

fraudulent CDC study to congressman

Posey who then went before the Congress

as well as the involvement of the CDC a

hearing and a thorough investigation is

warranted so I asked Mr Speaker I I beg

I implore my colleagues on the

appropriations committees to please

please take such action thank you Mr

Speaker I yield back

it's now been seven months since

congressman Bill Posey urged the

Congress to subpoena bill Thompson and

they have done nothing

bill Thompson wants to be subpoenaed by

Congress as a CDC employee from the

federal government he cannot speak

voluntarily because in the threat of

jail time

absolutely William Thompson needs to go

before Congress he does go before the

whole nation everybody needs to see what

he has to say

he needs to be deposed in front of a

committee in Congress and Julie Gerber

ding has to be brought in and deposed

that's because this is a very very very

disturbing it revelation for this

researcher to come forward and be saying

now that they were indeed deliberately

concealing critical information about an

MMR autism Lane horrible horrible

development deviation from an analysis

plan a mission of crucial data

destruction of documents obstruction of

justice

misleading the Congress grievous harm to

innocent children this has to be

investigated you and I are in agreement

vaccine safety should not be in the CDC

with an agency like the National

Transportation Safety Board the next

thing they need to do is they need to

somebody needs to reintroduce the weld

of Maloney bill it needs to be very very

quickly enacted and you need to take all

of the vaccine safety responsibilities

out of the CDC these children have been

maimed by the actions of Colleen Boyle

Frank de Stefano

marceline Juergen Alsop and Tanya bass

in my son has been debilitated for 17

years I think jail time is too good for

these individuals who have perpetrated

such fraud the notion of vaccinating

children protecting children against

serious infectious disease with vaccines

that are safe and effective is laudable

you hear about measles outbreaks in

Disneyland and then they try and sell

you MMR we didn't see autism being

reported as a consequence of the single

vaccine only of the triple vaccine so my

feeling

is that we need to review vaccination

policy across the board but in the first

instance I do believe we can make the

problem far less if we separate those

vaccines out into their single measles

mumps and rubella I just cannot imagine

what it will be like if we really do

face a future in which half the children

born end up on the autism spectrum I

mean it will be so disruptive of the

school system there'll be so little

money to be able to spend on the normal

children to help them to bring them up

and to educate them we're just gonna

have extremely sick children and parents

that will be so distracted by by the

challenge of bringing up these these

children that are so sick that our

society will not be able to focus on

anything else the implications of that

for our country for our competitiveness

as a nation for our economy are massive

they must know and they do know that

there's a national emergency I mean this

is gonna be a complete catastrophe if we

just let it happen what will you say

the next time a mother sitting there

with her baby in the hands it's a doctor

rachel is the MMR vaccine safe I'm gonna

tell her I'm gonna say you know honestly

I'm not gonna give them our vaccine to

my babies and here's why

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