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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:15,182 --> 00:00:23,182 We have a lot of murders in Houston, but not necessarily a 2 00:00:27,628 --> 00:00:32,308 lot of murders of cab drivers. This man had been shot to 3 00:00:32,332 --> 00:00:33,376 death. It was a very disturbing scene. 4 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:40,350 There was smoldering smoke, the distinct smell of burning 5 00:00:40,374 --> 00:00:46,723 human flesh. Two cab drivers murdered 6 00:00:46,747 --> 00:00:48,291 within 48 hours of each other. Both individuals had come 7 00:00:48,315 --> 00:00:50,693 here trying to live the American dream. You need to be 8 00:00:50,717 --> 00:00:52,161 careful. You don't know who you've got in your cab. 9 00:00:52,185 --> 00:00:55,131 His last words on this earth is, "please. I have children." 10 00:00:55,155 --> 00:00:58,701 Don't do this." I think the ultimate motive 11 00:00:58,725 --> 00:01:02,272 was money, was thrill. Five unique perspectives. 12 00:01:02,296 --> 00:01:04,807 Five points of view. One murder. 13 00:01:04,831 --> 00:01:10,179 I'm a homicide veteran. I've been a reporter here in 14 00:01:10,203 --> 00:01:11,781 the Houston area. I was one of the 15 00:01:11,805 --> 00:01:13,683 investigators assigned. My name is Chaz blackshear. 16 00:01:13,707 --> 00:01:17,186 I was the lead prosecutor. My name is Brian Harris. I'm 17 00:01:17,210 --> 00:01:25,210 a 21‐year retired homicide veteran for the Houston police 18 00:01:32,192 --> 00:01:36,706 department. On October 14, 2010, when I arrived at work at the 19 00:01:36,730 --> 00:01:40,243 homicide headquarters downtown Houston, I ran into two 20 00:01:40,267 --> 00:01:45,448 detectives. I knew they'd been working nonstop on a taxicab 21 00:01:45,472 --> 00:01:49,152 killing, a yellow cab murder where the driver of that cab 22 00:01:49,176 --> 00:01:53,156 had been murdered and his body was dumped on the north side of 23 00:01:53,180 --> 00:01:57,961 the city of Houston. I quipped, "glad it's you, not us." 24 00:01:57,985 --> 00:02:02,532 Little did I know that within the hour, my partner and I 25 00:02:02,556 --> 00:02:06,369 would be assigned the murder of the second cab driver within 48 26 00:02:06,393 --> 00:02:13,810 hours. Right away, my partner and I are talking while we're 27 00:02:13,834 --> 00:02:18,147 driving out to the West Side of Houston that, could this be 28 00:02:18,171 --> 00:02:21,818 connected? We didn't know at the time, but, you know, our 29 00:02:21,842 --> 00:02:24,988 spidey senses certainly were tangling. We had a Houston 30 00:02:25,012 --> 00:02:33,012 officer, and he was simply making rounds, driving through 31 00:02:34,888 --> 00:02:37,567 the various different parking lots in his beat and saw a 32 00:02:37,591 --> 00:02:42,672 yellow cab. Quickly, he figured, that's certainly out of place. 33 00:02:42,696 --> 00:02:45,475 Why would a yellow cab be in the middle of a parking lot at 34 00:02:45,499 --> 00:02:49,278 3:00 in the morning? As he got closer and he could see, the 35 00:02:49,302 --> 00:02:51,981 cab was smoldering, there was smoke coming from the cab. 36 00:02:52,005 --> 00:02:56,319 There was also that distinct smell, the distinct smell of 37 00:02:56,343 --> 00:03:00,957 burning human flesh. By the time I get there with my 38 00:03:00,981 --> 00:03:08,981 partner, there's dozens and dozens of people along the 39 00:03:10,090 --> 00:03:15,004 perimeter of the crime scene. We don't know who are witnesses, 40 00:03:15,028 --> 00:03:17,874 who are just casual onlookers. In a chaotic scene, you've got 41 00:03:17,898 --> 00:03:22,111 to start breaking that scene down into larger parts, smaller 42 00:03:22,135 --> 00:03:25,815 parts. No matter how crazy it looks, you can make a lot of 43 00:03:25,839 --> 00:03:32,121 sense out of that. The dead themselves, in a way, speak to 44 00:03:32,145 --> 00:03:36,325 us. Not literally, but the position of their body, the way 45 00:03:36,349 --> 00:03:40,129 their body is inside or laid out or presented in any 46 00:03:40,153 --> 00:03:46,769 different homicide scene can tell us a lot. This case was no 47 00:03:46,793 --> 00:03:54,343 different. It looked as though there was a struggle. The 48 00:03:54,367 --> 00:03:58,548 person was trying to escape. It looked as though they almost 49 00:03:58,572 --> 00:04:02,385 did escape out that door and they were shot and dragged back 50 00:04:02,409 --> 00:04:07,724 into that vehicle. And then to add insult to injury, the car 51 00:04:07,748 --> 00:04:11,694 is set on fire. But we weren't dealing with exact rocket 52 00:04:11,718 --> 00:04:16,733 scientists here because they didn't understand that fire 53 00:04:16,757 --> 00:04:20,536 needs oxygen to breathe. So when they set this car on fire, 54 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,840 other than the initial explosion or burst of flame, 55 00:04:23,864 --> 00:04:27,710 the fire quickly dies because there's no oxygen to feed on. 56 00:04:27,734 --> 00:04:32,849 They were sloppy. They left evidence behind. They left the 57 00:04:32,873 --> 00:04:36,853 shell casing. One on the outside of the car. One on the 58 00:04:36,877 --> 00:04:42,492 inside of the car. This is all great stuff that we can work 59 00:04:42,516 --> 00:04:50,516 with. So, how did he die? Was it the fire or was it the 60 00:04:54,027 --> 00:04:58,908 gunshot? And there's an easy way to tell. See, when an 61 00:04:58,932 --> 00:05:01,677 autopsy is done, if there's soot on the inside of the lungs, 62 00:05:01,701 --> 00:05:05,882 if they're soot on those lungs, that means they were alive when 63 00:05:05,906 --> 00:05:09,385 the fire was started. I'm just very thankful, as gruesome as 64 00:05:09,409 --> 00:05:14,390 this scene was, was that it was clear after the autopsy that he 65 00:05:14,414 --> 00:05:19,295 died of the gunshots, not of the fire, because there was not 66 00:05:19,319 --> 00:05:27,319 any soot in the lungs. Now we're able to attach a name. 67 00:05:38,572 --> 00:05:42,718 This is somebody that had a family. This is somebody who 68 00:05:42,742 --> 00:05:45,121 had people who loved him, somebody that he was trying to 69 00:05:45,145 --> 00:05:49,625 provide for working a second job, bringing in extra income 70 00:05:49,649 --> 00:05:54,730 so he can just make it. Blaise was no different than myself. 71 00:05:54,754 --> 00:05:57,900 We all have three things in common ‐‐ we all want to be 72 00:05:57,924 --> 00:06:00,670 loved, we all want to be respected, and we all want the 73 00:06:00,694 --> 00:06:05,541 ability to provide for the ones that love and respect us. They 74 00:06:05,565 --> 00:06:09,779 wanted that American dream, and that's exactly who he was. He 75 00:06:09,803 --> 00:06:13,082 was trying to provide for his family. On this particular 76 00:06:13,106 --> 00:06:19,589 scene, the cab is in the parking lot. Looking up at the 77 00:06:19,613 --> 00:06:24,393 office complex, it is clear that there are video cameras. 78 00:06:24,417 --> 00:06:29,265 So one of the first things that we do is look at these videos. 79 00:06:29,289 --> 00:06:37,289 Partner and I, we walk in and we go to the security office. 80 00:06:38,031 --> 00:06:40,476 We don't know what we're getting ready to see. And as 81 00:06:40,500 --> 00:06:44,313 that videotape starts, we see the yellow cab pull up and we 82 00:06:44,337 --> 00:06:48,050 see clearly a black female with this wild afro, crazy kind of 83 00:06:48,074 --> 00:06:52,955 hair. And she gets out and she starts to run to the front of 84 00:06:52,979 --> 00:06:57,894 the cab area. She keeps going, has a lookout. Is anyone around? 85 00:06:57,918 --> 00:07:02,298 And there's one particular moment, she stops and is caught 86 00:07:02,322 --> 00:07:05,134 in mid‐stride, staring directly into the camera. It was the 87 00:07:05,158 --> 00:07:09,872 perfect shot. We just knew then we had to freeze that frame and 88 00:07:09,896 --> 00:07:14,610 that would be the picture that we would use. But the video 89 00:07:14,634 --> 00:07:20,383 keeps going. She comes back to the cab and then there's a 90 00:07:20,407 --> 00:07:25,121 flash. There's a flash inside the cab. You see that same 91 00:07:25,145 --> 00:07:27,823 black female. She runs across the parking lot, and then a 92 00:07:27,847 --> 00:07:31,560 lanky, thin male, baggy t‐shirt, pants on, runs past the camera, 93 00:07:31,584 --> 00:07:39,584 as well. Where are they running? You had absolute fear and 94 00:07:39,693 --> 00:07:47,693 terror running through the transportation industry. One 95 00:07:55,742 --> 00:07:59,422 incident, two incidences. It will be a third. Will there be 96 00:07:59,446 --> 00:08:03,592 a fourth? We needed to get this stopped. Throw in the fact that 97 00:08:03,616 --> 00:08:08,597 now there's a male there, is this their version of trying to 98 00:08:08,621 --> 00:08:13,931 be Bonnie and Clyde? Hi, I'm Sara Davenport, and 99 00:08:18,698 --> 00:08:21,811 hi, I'm Sara Davenport, and I've been a reporter here in 100 00:08:21,835 --> 00:08:24,113 the Houston area for over a decade. When the news broke 101 00:08:24,137 --> 00:08:26,182 that there had been a murder, it wasn't that uncommon. It's a 102 00:08:26,206 --> 00:08:29,785 big city, 6 million people. But what was uncommon was a small 103 00:08:29,809 --> 00:08:35,424 twist. Two cabdrivers murdered within 48 hours of each other. 104 00:08:35,448 --> 00:08:40,997 October 12th, early morning in 2010, a utility worker was out, 105 00:08:41,021 --> 00:08:49,021 and he spotted something strange in a drainage ditch. 106 00:08:54,601 --> 00:09:01,384 When he went to look, it was a very gruesome discovery. It was 107 00:09:01,408 --> 00:09:03,719 a body. You can imagine how terrifying that is. I mean, 108 00:09:03,743 --> 00:09:07,089 normally, early morning hours, it's pretty quiet. And here 109 00:09:07,113 --> 00:09:14,497 this body is covered in dirt, shot up, possibly stabbed. You 110 00:09:14,521 --> 00:09:17,600 could tell it was a very disturbing scene by the way 111 00:09:17,624 --> 00:09:19,702 when the utility worker called 9‐1‐1, he was terrified. When 112 00:09:19,726 --> 00:09:25,508 the police first arrived on the scene, they're trying to 113 00:09:25,532 --> 00:09:29,678 identify who this is. And they didn't find anything on his 114 00:09:29,702 --> 00:09:32,782 body. I mean, it looked like he'd been robbed. There's was 115 00:09:32,806 --> 00:09:36,485 nothing in his pockets. But when they started searching 116 00:09:36,509 --> 00:09:38,988 just a little bit away, they were able to find his passport 117 00:09:39,012 --> 00:09:43,392 and also his cellphone. That was a pretty significant break 118 00:09:43,416 --> 00:09:46,829 for two reasons. One is it looks like the body was dumped. 119 00:09:46,853 --> 00:09:50,032 The murder probably didn't happen there since the 120 00:09:50,056 --> 00:09:52,668 cellphone and passport were in a different area, but it was a 121 00:09:52,692 --> 00:09:57,239 huge break because now they knew who this body was, through 122 00:09:57,263 --> 00:10:01,410 the passport and now they had his cellphone and could figure 123 00:10:01,434 --> 00:10:04,814 out more about him. They were able to identify the victim as 124 00:10:04,838 --> 00:10:11,520 32‐year‐old Mohammad El sayed. Mohammad had been in the 125 00:10:11,544 --> 00:10:15,057 Houston area for a few years. He was a family man, had 126 00:10:15,081 --> 00:10:17,493 several children. He was a cab driver, and he had been working 127 00:10:17,517 --> 00:10:21,964 to pick up some extra shifts to make some more money to help 128 00:10:21,988 --> 00:10:25,468 out at home. He was working really hard to make ends meet 129 00:10:25,492 --> 00:10:29,371 for his family. They were new immigrants to the Houston area, 130 00:10:29,395 --> 00:10:33,142 to the United States. And so being a cab driver was a good, 131 00:10:33,166 --> 00:10:38,314 honest job for him to do. Being a cab driver might be somewhat 132 00:10:38,338 --> 00:10:41,317 of an easy job from the outside, but it's a risky job. You never 133 00:10:41,341 --> 00:10:43,385 know who you're picking up, what the next fare is going to 134 00:10:43,409 --> 00:10:50,459 be. When police went to the cab company, they ran the number 135 00:10:50,483 --> 00:10:56,699 from where the last call had come in from Mohammad El 136 00:10:56,723 --> 00:11:02,571 sayed's cab. It had come in from a gas station, a chevron, 137 00:11:02,595 --> 00:11:06,742 around 2:00 in the morning. Thank you for calling yellow 138 00:11:06,766 --> 00:11:07,843 cab. This is Cheryl. How may I help you? 139 00:11:07,867 --> 00:11:10,446 Yes, I need a cab over here on 1900 dairy ashford at the 140 00:11:10,470 --> 00:11:15,151 chevron. A cab just drove by. 1900 south dairy ashford? 141 00:11:15,175 --> 00:11:19,955 Yeah. And that's the chevron 142 00:11:19,979 --> 00:11:24,260 service station, sir? Yeah. The chevron service 143 00:11:24,284 --> 00:11:26,095 station. One just passed by. I don't know if he works for 144 00:11:26,119 --> 00:11:27,630 y'all. Okay, we'll get someone out 145 00:11:27,654 --> 00:11:29,131 there for you, sir. Alright, thank you so much. 146 00:11:29,155 --> 00:11:35,838 When police got to the chevron station, they thought 147 00:11:35,862 --> 00:11:38,440 maybe this could be their first lead, but it really wasn't 148 00:11:38,464 --> 00:11:41,777 because the security cameras, they weren't working that night 149 00:11:41,801 --> 00:11:45,848 and the phone had been totally wiped clean of fingerprints. 150 00:11:45,872 --> 00:11:50,319 The suspects were really lucky on this one because the police 151 00:11:50,343 --> 00:11:54,957 were hot on their tail until they weren't. Suddenly, it went 152 00:11:54,981 --> 00:11:58,327 cold. There were no fingerprints. There's no 153 00:11:58,351 --> 00:12:01,864 security cameras. The police didn't have any sign of the cab 154 00:12:01,888 --> 00:12:05,167 near where Mohammad El sayed's body was found, so they went 155 00:12:05,191 --> 00:12:09,104 back to the chevron and started looking in that vicinity. And 156 00:12:09,128 --> 00:12:13,609 it was paydirt. The cab was found about three or four 157 00:12:13,633 --> 00:12:16,178 blocks away from where the call was originally made, right 158 00:12:16,202 --> 00:12:18,347 behind a strip mall. It had been wiped clean. There were no 159 00:12:18,371 --> 00:12:21,483 fingerprints, but they did find some small traces of blood. And 160 00:12:21,507 --> 00:12:25,354 then they did find two .380 caliber bullet shells. Where 161 00:12:25,378 --> 00:12:30,659 those bullet casings were found suggests that the driver, 162 00:12:30,683 --> 00:12:35,431 Mohammad El sayed, had been sitting in his cab when he was 163 00:12:35,455 --> 00:12:39,235 shot. Police had the cab and they had the victim, but they 164 00:12:39,259 --> 00:12:43,572 really didn't have any leads. The call was made about 35 to 165 00:12:43,596 --> 00:12:49,845 40 minutes away from where the body was found. So what does 166 00:12:49,869 --> 00:12:51,814 that mean for these suspects? If they're willing to drive 167 00:12:51,838 --> 00:12:55,150 that far to dump the body, where are they now? They could 168 00:12:55,174 --> 00:12:58,420 be in Dallas. They could be out of the state of Texas. People 169 00:12:58,444 --> 00:13:04,994 started wondering, is there a serial killer on the loose? 170 00:13:05,018 --> 00:13:08,430 What's going to happen the next day after that? The tension in 171 00:13:08,454 --> 00:13:12,635 the city with these reports coming out, it was very real. 172 00:13:12,659 --> 00:13:20,659 Mohammad and Blaise were both Muslim cab drivers. Did that 173 00:13:21,668 --> 00:13:23,938 have anything to do with these murderers? 174 00:13:32,912 --> 00:13:35,190 My name is Roger chappell, and I was an investigator with 175 00:13:35,214 --> 00:13:37,359 the Houston police department assigned to work this case. Cab 176 00:13:37,383 --> 00:13:43,799 drivers are hardworking people. It is not your 177 00:13:43,823 --> 00:13:47,169 gangster‐on‐gangster or your dope dealer‐on‐dope dealer kind 178 00:13:47,193 --> 00:13:55,193 of stuff. These are innocent people doing hard work. 179 00:13:56,402 --> 00:14:02,318 Something like this, where we have at least two cab drivers 180 00:14:02,342 --> 00:14:04,219 that were killed in such a short period of time, so at 181 00:14:04,243 --> 00:14:06,622 that point, the urgency really did kick in. This was 182 00:14:06,646 --> 00:14:08,524 definitely going to happen again. To me, it's not a matter 183 00:14:08,548 --> 00:14:12,194 of if, it's when. I made a phone call to yellow cab and 184 00:14:12,218 --> 00:14:20,169 was able to obtain the recording for the second case. 185 00:14:20,193 --> 00:14:25,074 The deceased had picked up a fare somewhere on the West Side 186 00:14:25,098 --> 00:14:30,646 of town, and it was a female that had made that phone call. 187 00:14:30,670 --> 00:14:38,253 A name that I heard, as I remember, was shauntay, because 188 00:14:38,277 --> 00:14:41,323 it was a little difficult to understand on that recording. 189 00:14:41,347 --> 00:14:43,192 Yellow cab. Can I help you? Hello, um, can I have a cab 190 00:14:43,216 --> 00:14:46,595 to, um, 1905, um, dairy ashford? It's gonna be by a cricket 191 00:14:46,619 --> 00:14:50,766 store. Kroger store? 192 00:14:50,790 --> 00:14:54,770 Cricket. Alright, can I get a name? 193 00:14:54,794 --> 00:15:00,442 Um, shauntay. My immediate thought was 194 00:15:00,466 --> 00:15:05,514 that's a fake name. I don't know if it's just a version of 195 00:15:05,538 --> 00:15:08,550 her name or if she just made it up, but that's one of the 196 00:15:08,574 --> 00:15:10,552 things, too, that we disseminate to the other 197 00:15:10,576 --> 00:15:14,289 investigators. In most murder cases that I have investigated, 198 00:15:14,313 --> 00:15:18,360 this is the first one where we actually had the murderer 199 00:15:18,384 --> 00:15:22,698 captured on video. It truly does open up the book for us. 200 00:15:22,722 --> 00:15:27,903 As these folks were leaving and running away, what direction 201 00:15:27,927 --> 00:15:30,472 where they headed? So that's where we're going to start our 202 00:15:30,496 --> 00:15:36,478 canvas. We decided to go ahead and concentrate on the 203 00:15:36,502 --> 00:15:38,313 apartment complexes as first. When the officers were out 204 00:15:38,337 --> 00:15:41,316 there, this manager is like, "you know what? I could be" 205 00:15:41,340 --> 00:15:47,423 wrong, but this is a coincidence, to me, that I just 206 00:15:47,447 --> 00:15:51,627 can't seem to get over. I had this tenant who was behind in 207 00:15:51,651 --> 00:15:56,098 her rent. She was due to be evicted. Then all of a sudden, 208 00:15:56,122 --> 00:16:02,638 "she comes in this morning and pays off everything." The 209 00:16:02,662 --> 00:16:04,873 public already knew that we had two cab drivers. The media had 210 00:16:04,897 --> 00:16:06,675 already reported that. For this manager, based on what glimpse 211 00:16:06,699 --> 00:16:09,778 he got from the surveillance video photograph, was able to 212 00:16:09,802 --> 00:16:12,147 draw those parallels very quickly. They gave her name as 213 00:16:12,171 --> 00:16:14,483 crystal Jones, and the physical description seemed to match. 214 00:16:14,507 --> 00:16:18,353 What we want to do is to get her before she gets inside her 215 00:16:18,377 --> 00:16:22,825 apartment. And there's a reason for that. It creates too much 216 00:16:22,849 --> 00:16:26,662 hazard for the officers and for other citizens. Crystal shows 217 00:16:26,686 --> 00:16:29,331 up, and once everything everything got explained to her 218 00:16:29,355 --> 00:16:34,570 about how we wound up there, she agreed, "yeah. You know" 219 00:16:34,594 --> 00:16:40,976 what? Let me run down, explain all this to you. I don't have a 220 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,112 "problem doing that." Just that cooperation right from the 221 00:16:44,136 --> 00:16:52,136 beginning sent a very clear message to us. So when she 222 00:16:52,345 --> 00:16:55,357 comes into homicide, sergeant Harris talked to her. He felt 223 00:16:55,381 --> 00:16:57,826 very quickly that she wasn't involved in this. Brian was 224 00:16:57,850 --> 00:17:01,964 like, "her voice is just too raspy. It just doesn't quite" 225 00:17:01,988 --> 00:17:05,501 "match up." When Brian asked her about, you know, how she came 226 00:17:05,525 --> 00:17:08,403 into all of this money and was able to pay off all of her debt 227 00:17:08,427 --> 00:17:11,206 all of a sudden, she said, "oh, well, I sold my car." And he 228 00:17:11,230 --> 00:17:14,643 said, "what do you mean?" And she was able to produce the 229 00:17:14,667 --> 00:17:17,045 documentation, the bill of sale and everything. We can tell 230 00:17:17,069 --> 00:17:20,182 when someone's lying to us most of the time, very quickly. We 231 00:17:20,206 --> 00:17:24,853 can also tell when they're being very truthful. Brian just 232 00:17:24,877 --> 00:17:28,590 felt right away, this isn't our girl, period. Once crystal 233 00:17:28,614 --> 00:17:32,928 Jones is eliminated as a suspect, it's very late at 234 00:17:32,952 --> 00:17:36,598 night. Everybody's worn out. There's really not much more we 235 00:17:36,622 --> 00:17:39,701 can do at the moment. All of our physical evidence is tied 236 00:17:39,725 --> 00:17:43,038 up at the crime labs. We come back in the next morning, and 237 00:17:43,062 --> 00:17:48,243 we get a phone call from our firearms lab. Typically, from a 238 00:17:48,267 --> 00:17:51,880 firearms report, we may get between eight to fifteen 239 00:17:51,904 --> 00:17:56,084 firearms that these shell casings could have come from. 240 00:17:56,108 --> 00:17:59,755 But Kim downs came downstairs, and for the first time since 241 00:17:59,779 --> 00:18:02,758 I've known her, she's ecstatic. There is, I don't know, four or 242 00:18:02,782 --> 00:18:05,794 five of us standing around. She says, "you're looking for a" 243 00:18:05,818 --> 00:18:08,664 cobra 380. She even shows us a picture of it. She says, "I'm" 244 00:18:08,688 --> 00:18:11,333 not saying it's this number of firearms. This is the gun 245 00:18:11,357 --> 00:18:19,357 you're looking for. That was a game‐changer. Our crime analyst 246 00:18:20,900 --> 00:18:26,348 starts doing the research on stolen firearms. Well, there 247 00:18:26,372 --> 00:18:32,754 were two reports that were located, and one of them 248 00:18:32,778 --> 00:18:34,856 mentions two suspects by name. Turns out, this gentleman had 249 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,693 allowed these two folks to stay with him, and they stole a 250 00:18:37,717 --> 00:18:41,163 pistol from him. He names them as Chaz blackshear and Danielle 251 00:18:41,187 --> 00:18:47,302 Hudson. Immediately, we started doing the research on those two 252 00:18:47,326 --> 00:18:51,139 folks, and we noticed that he has an arrest, a prior arrest. 253 00:18:51,163 --> 00:18:57,012 So every arrested that occurs in Houston, the arrestee is 254 00:18:57,036 --> 00:18:59,147 assigned an hpd number. And lo and behold, if we don't find 255 00:18:59,171 --> 00:19:03,352 pictures of them. They resemble what we see in the video, 256 00:19:03,376 --> 00:19:08,857 especially with Danielle. Phil calls somebody in our 257 00:19:08,881 --> 00:19:10,826 fingerprint lab, and the information he was trying to 258 00:19:10,850 --> 00:19:12,728 tell the fingerprint person is, "hey, I've got an hpd number I 259 00:19:12,752 --> 00:19:15,998 need you to compare this to." He didn't even mention the 260 00:19:16,022 --> 00:19:18,000 name. He said, "don't tell me it's Chaz blackshear." Phil, 261 00:19:18,024 --> 00:19:21,670 literally, I think he came close to dropping the phone. 262 00:19:21,694 --> 00:19:27,509 All of that took place literally in a matter of ten 263 00:19:27,533 --> 00:19:32,347 minutes, fifteen minutes. Just boom, boom, boom, boom. The 264 00:19:32,371 --> 00:19:36,451 gentleman that listed his pistol, he was friends with 265 00:19:36,475 --> 00:19:39,888 Chaz. He had his cellphone number and he listed it on the 266 00:19:39,912 --> 00:19:42,924 police report. Now we have enough evidence against Chaz to 267 00:19:42,948 --> 00:19:46,361 be able to get a warrant for his arrest. Once the marshals 268 00:19:46,385 --> 00:19:49,965 were able to get the court order and activate the phone 269 00:19:49,989 --> 00:19:53,568 search, it literally took us right back to the same 270 00:19:53,592 --> 00:19:55,352 apartment complex that we had been to before. 271 00:20:04,003 --> 00:20:07,315 My name is Chaz blackshear. I'm from Dallas, Texas. As a 272 00:20:07,339 --> 00:20:11,219 child, I went through a lot of emotional roller coasters. My 273 00:20:11,243 --> 00:20:17,993 mother being in jail. That's my first memory. I used to get 274 00:20:18,017 --> 00:20:24,733 letters, drawings from her. I know my real father, but I only 275 00:20:24,757 --> 00:20:30,572 stayed with him for a short amount of time. It was in 276 00:20:30,596 --> 00:20:34,743 Arizona. I left him up there because, you know, he used to 277 00:20:34,767 --> 00:20:38,346 put his hands on me, busted my nose and all that. Not too long, 278 00:20:38,370 --> 00:20:46,254 got to live with my mom, got out of jail. Within probably a 279 00:20:46,278 --> 00:20:51,393 couple of months, maybe, she had met this dude named John. 280 00:20:51,417 --> 00:20:56,565 He was different, man. He actually showed up, made me do 281 00:20:56,589 --> 00:21:00,569 my homework, made me, you know what I'm saying, do things that 282 00:21:00,593 --> 00:21:03,138 counted in life, and he was that father that I wanted. He 283 00:21:03,162 --> 00:21:06,174 had a motorcycle. You know what I'm saying? He loved to ride 284 00:21:06,198 --> 00:21:09,344 the bikes. And I'd hop on the bike with him. He rode off, and 285 00:21:09,368 --> 00:21:17,368 he never came back. I remember the police came, the police 286 00:21:17,910 --> 00:21:22,424 came knocking at our door probably around 10:00, 11:00 at 287 00:21:22,448 --> 00:21:26,628 night. So I watched her open the door, see what's going on, 288 00:21:26,652 --> 00:21:30,766 till they put their hands on my mama. And I just heard her 289 00:21:30,790 --> 00:21:33,001 busting out crying. And he had had a wreck on the bike, and 290 00:21:33,025 --> 00:21:36,872 the wreck killed him. He flew off the highway or something. I 291 00:21:36,896 --> 00:21:39,941 don't know. In a way, I feel like everything was snatched 292 00:21:39,965 --> 00:21:45,413 from me, the little family that I had. After he died, my mama 293 00:21:45,437 --> 00:21:53,437 went back on the drugs. I seen my mother o. D. One night. She 294 00:21:58,117 --> 00:22:05,634 was foaming at the mouth, couldn't stop shaking, and I 295 00:22:05,658 --> 00:22:08,470 was scared. I ended up moving in with some cousins. So I 296 00:22:08,494 --> 00:22:12,808 ended up staying there with my adoptive father and my adoptive 297 00:22:12,832 --> 00:22:18,880 mother. They wouldn't let me do certain things that I was used 298 00:22:18,904 --> 00:22:26,855 to being allowed to do, and that was one of the reasons 299 00:22:26,879 --> 00:22:30,959 that I really rebelled a lot as a child because I couldn't get 300 00:22:30,983 --> 00:22:35,363 my way. Lot of times, I was craving, like ‐‐ man, I was 301 00:22:35,387 --> 00:22:39,701 caught up in suicide at an early age. Music was my passion, 302 00:22:39,725 --> 00:22:43,872 my goal, and my dream back then, you know. That put all my 303 00:22:43,896 --> 00:22:48,877 emotions, everything I been through in life, I put it in my 304 00:22:48,901 --> 00:22:54,950 music. And that's ‐‐ that's one of the things that I know that 305 00:22:54,974 --> 00:22:58,186 I'm blessed at and I'm gifted at and a thing I can breathe in, 306 00:22:58,210 --> 00:23:02,591 you know? I could ‐‐ I could do it for the rest of my life as a 307 00:23:02,615 --> 00:23:07,395 career and be happy doing it. Not just doing it for the 308 00:23:07,419 --> 00:23:10,665 popularity or the money. Nobody supported me through what I 309 00:23:10,689 --> 00:23:18,689 wanted. It was always what somebody else wanted, what they 310 00:23:19,164 --> 00:23:22,310 think is right, what they believed in. They told me, "go 311 00:23:22,334 --> 00:23:28,583 to college, go to the military, get you a job. You got to do 312 00:23:28,607 --> 00:23:32,420 "something." and none of it involved music. So basically, I 313 00:23:32,444 --> 00:23:37,092 ended up joining the military just so I can get out the house, 314 00:23:37,116 --> 00:23:44,799 so I can get away, just get away. If things wasn't gonna 315 00:23:44,823 --> 00:23:48,703 get better, I was gonna force them to get better. Danielle, 316 00:23:48,727 --> 00:23:56,727 she was one of the first people who believed in me. She really 317 00:24:06,979 --> 00:24:13,061 showed me something that I never really seen out of a 318 00:24:13,085 --> 00:24:18,466 woman. She wanted the same thing I wanted. She was raised 319 00:24:18,490 --> 00:24:23,271 by her granny and everything, too, so we kind of had similar 320 00:24:23,295 --> 00:24:27,676 backgrounds. We just kind of built that trust, you know, 321 00:24:27,700 --> 00:24:30,879 'cause we both been through something. And then after a 322 00:24:30,903 --> 00:24:34,182 while, you know what I'm saying, she started staying there with 323 00:24:34,206 --> 00:24:37,118 me, and I guess that's when everything kicked off. She just 324 00:24:37,142 --> 00:24:40,889 so happened to have a child, and I knew that his father 325 00:24:40,913 --> 00:24:47,362 wasn't really in his life. I could see her son really looked 326 00:24:47,386 --> 00:24:51,266 up to me, always wanted to be around me. That made me hold on 327 00:24:51,290 --> 00:24:54,869 to her tighter, you know, 'cause that's how I felt, that he 328 00:24:54,893 --> 00:25:00,141 needed a father. You know, I didn't want them to feel the 329 00:25:00,165 --> 00:25:03,912 same way that I felt back when I lost John. And I was willing 330 00:25:03,936 --> 00:25:06,581 to do anything to make sure that don't happen. I really had 331 00:25:06,605 --> 00:25:10,885 tried to stop hustling and, you know, and actually go out and 332 00:25:10,909 --> 00:25:16,091 get a real job'cause I don't want nothing to take me away 333 00:25:16,115 --> 00:25:19,661 from my family. And it was hard to get a job. You know, I 334 00:25:19,685 --> 00:25:22,130 couldn't get one, I couldn't find one'cause I was 335 00:25:22,154 --> 00:25:25,467 dishonorably discharged from the military. We end up getting 336 00:25:25,491 --> 00:25:33,491 kicked out of the apartment, and they had put the eviction 337 00:25:33,599 --> 00:25:38,380 notice on the door. The next day, we had to go. I had to 338 00:25:38,404 --> 00:25:43,418 take care of them. I figured it was my responsibility. I felt 339 00:25:43,442 --> 00:25:47,789 if I didn't do nothing, I wasn't a man. The first thing 340 00:25:47,813 --> 00:25:51,893 that came to mind was quick money, and I was desperate for 341 00:25:51,917 --> 00:25:59,917 it. I'm pretty sure anybody, for their family, would do 342 00:26:02,027 --> 00:26:04,339 anything they have to to make sure their family was okay. I'm 343 00:26:04,363 --> 00:26:09,210 not gonna lie. I probably wasn't mature enough to see I 344 00:26:09,234 --> 00:26:17,234 could have found a better way. I had never forgot. I was 345 00:26:17,409 --> 00:26:25,409 laying on the floor. She was sitting up. And I was asleep. I 346 00:26:26,518 --> 00:26:30,465 was sleeping so hard, I didn't even hear them kick the door 347 00:26:30,489 --> 00:26:34,669 in. I didn't even hear it. I don't know if it was from the 348 00:26:34,693 --> 00:26:38,039 stress or being depressed. I don't know what it was. I was 349 00:26:38,063 --> 00:26:41,876 actually in a dead sleep. She shook me and woke me up. I said, 350 00:26:41,900 --> 00:26:45,046 "what's up? "She said, "man, the police are here." And they 351 00:26:45,070 --> 00:26:51,686 took me in. But I could have took that. But with her, when 352 00:26:51,710 --> 00:26:56,758 they took her in ‐‐ you know, aj was still there. Man, it's 353 00:26:56,782 --> 00:26:59,752 stuff I didn't want him to see, man. 354 00:27:03,222 --> 00:27:11,222 My name is Caroline dozier. I'm a prosecutor at the Harris 355 00:27:13,465 --> 00:27:15,577 county district attorney's office, and I was the lead 356 00:27:15,601 --> 00:27:17,579 prosecutor in the Chaz blackshear and Danielle Hudson 357 00:27:17,603 --> 00:27:22,083 capital murder cases. My very first involvement with this 358 00:27:22,107 --> 00:27:24,352 case was when sergeant Harris and detective waters came to my 359 00:27:24,376 --> 00:27:27,989 office and talked to me about picking up this case. A cab 360 00:27:28,013 --> 00:27:32,227 driver had been murdered, and they wanted my help. There were 361 00:27:32,251 --> 00:27:36,865 two very good leads that led us to Chaz blackshear specifically 362 00:27:36,889 --> 00:27:40,135 and then ultimately Danielle Hudson, as well. One of which 363 00:27:40,159 --> 00:27:43,872 was the link between the two cases, the shell casings. They 364 00:27:43,896 --> 00:27:49,210 were found to be fired from a very unique type of gun. In 365 00:27:49,234 --> 00:27:54,415 addition to that, they took fingerprints off of the cab, 366 00:27:54,439 --> 00:27:57,285 and they were able to match one of the prints to Chaz 367 00:27:57,309 --> 00:28:04,526 blackshear. We knew that Chaz blackshear had a phone and we 368 00:28:04,550 --> 00:28:07,929 were in contact with the phone company about his service. It 369 00:28:07,953 --> 00:28:12,233 was a prepaid phone, and it was running low on minutes. And so 370 00:28:12,257 --> 00:28:16,004 in a ruse, they told the phone company to call him and let him 371 00:28:16,028 --> 00:28:19,908 know that they were giving him additional minutes so that we 372 00:28:19,932 --> 00:28:23,845 could keep tabs on where he might be. Chaz blackshear and 373 00:28:23,869 --> 00:28:28,983 Danielle Hudson were staying at a family member's home. I 374 00:28:29,007 --> 00:28:32,287 believe it was a cousin's home. And so we wrote warrants for 375 00:28:32,311 --> 00:28:35,790 Chaz blackshear. We didn't believe that we had enough at 376 00:28:35,814 --> 00:28:38,726 that time to write one for Danielle Hudson. They found 377 00:28:38,750 --> 00:28:45,867 Chaz and Danielle both at the home. I believe they were 378 00:28:45,891 --> 00:28:48,636 sleeping on an air mattress. There was something about the 379 00:28:48,660 --> 00:28:51,739 shape of danielle's hair or her head that was familiar. When 380 00:28:51,763 --> 00:28:54,409 they saw her, she looked basically like the person who 381 00:28:54,433 --> 00:28:57,579 was in the video of the two suspects running away from the 382 00:28:57,603 --> 00:29:01,282 taxicab. The other thing that the officers found familiar 383 00:29:01,306 --> 00:29:04,252 about Danielle was the sound of her voice. They had listened to 384 00:29:04,276 --> 00:29:08,256 the recordings of the phone calls being made to the cab 385 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,692 companies. And when they talked to her, they noticed that her 386 00:29:10,716 --> 00:29:13,428 voice sounded very similar to, if not the same, as the person 387 00:29:13,452 --> 00:29:18,633 who'd made those phone calls. They arrested Chaz on the 388 00:29:18,657 --> 00:29:24,806 warrant. And then they asked Danielle Hudson if she wouldn't 389 00:29:24,830 --> 00:29:27,875 mind coming down to the police station and giving a statement, 390 00:29:27,899 --> 00:29:30,912 and she agreed to do so. The detectives decided they first 391 00:29:30,936 --> 00:29:33,481 wanted to speak with Chaz blackshear and see what he 392 00:29:33,505 --> 00:29:35,917 would admit to regarding the crimes. He said that he had 393 00:29:35,941 --> 00:29:43,941 taken cabs. He might have even been in the cabs of the 394 00:29:44,416 --> 00:29:47,295 murdered drivers, but that he was not involved in any way, 395 00:29:47,319 --> 00:29:48,730 shape, or form in those murders. 396 00:29:48,754 --> 00:29:52,066 Chaz. Chaz, listen to me, my friend. I know where you went 397 00:29:52,090 --> 00:29:56,537 because I've got it on videotape with three different 398 00:29:56,561 --> 00:29:59,907 angles. I know where Danielle went. I know where she walked 399 00:29:59,931 --> 00:30:04,279 to. I know when she walked back. I know when you got out 400 00:30:04,303 --> 00:30:07,482 of the cab. I know when you walked around the cab. I know 401 00:30:07,506 --> 00:30:10,952 when you walked up to the driver of the cab. And I know 402 00:30:10,976 --> 00:30:13,454 what you did when you got to the driver because I've got it 403 00:30:13,478 --> 00:30:16,924 on videotape. I never, well, that's not 404 00:30:16,948 --> 00:30:18,226 true. That couldn't have been us. That's not true. 405 00:30:18,250 --> 00:30:24,666 Detective waters was trying to get Chaz to confess to his 406 00:30:24,690 --> 00:30:32,206 involvement in these crimes, but was unsuccessful initially. 407 00:30:32,230 --> 00:30:36,511 And the one ace in the hole that we had was Danielle 408 00:30:36,535 --> 00:30:39,047 Hudson. We still had an opportunity to talk to her and 409 00:30:39,071 --> 00:30:41,616 try and find out the crime from her and then maybe use what she 410 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,620 told us to get Chaz to tell us the truth. Brian Harris showed 411 00:30:45,644 --> 00:30:51,459 her the footage from the crime scene and pointed out the 412 00:30:51,483 --> 00:30:54,862 similarities between her and the female on the surveillance 413 00:30:54,886 --> 00:30:58,566 footage. And she admitted at that point that that was in 414 00:30:58,590 --> 00:31:03,271 fact her. That was a huge break in the case for us. We already 415 00:31:03,295 --> 00:31:06,774 had some evidence that tied them to this particular case, 416 00:31:06,798 --> 00:31:10,445 but now that we know that she's admitting to being the person 417 00:31:10,469 --> 00:31:13,915 on that video, now we know that those two are probably our best 418 00:31:13,939 --> 00:31:21,022 suspects. Danielle seemed to think that because she wasn't 419 00:31:21,046 --> 00:31:29,046 the actual shooter, that somehow she would play no part 420 00:31:29,354 --> 00:31:32,400 in this particular crime, and she was pretty quick in ratting 421 00:31:32,424 --> 00:31:36,871 out Chaz. He cocked the gun, and 422 00:31:36,895 --> 00:31:39,640 that's when the cab driver opened the door. I tried to 423 00:31:39,664 --> 00:31:42,844 take off the seatbelt to run, and that's when he just started 424 00:31:42,868 --> 00:31:45,880 shooting him. He just told me, he said that we'll call the cab 425 00:31:45,904 --> 00:31:50,251 and that he was just gonna Jack the man. I didn't know that he 426 00:31:50,275 --> 00:31:53,388 was going to kill the man. I did not know that. 427 00:31:53,412 --> 00:31:59,494 Okay. Danielle Hudson claimed that 428 00:31:59,518 --> 00:32:01,496 she was driving the cab and that she heard Chaz having a 429 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,500 conversation with Mr. El sayed. At that point, she just thought 430 00:32:05,524 --> 00:32:08,536 they were gonna Rob him. Mohammad was saying, "please" 431 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,772 don't kill me. I have kids." And Chaz said, "well, how old 432 00:32:10,796 --> 00:32:13,875 are your kids? "And once he told them how old they were", 433 00:32:13,899 --> 00:32:16,177 Chaz was basically like, "well, that's old enough," and shot 434 00:32:16,201 --> 00:32:21,516 him. The children were like maybe 6 years old. That was old 435 00:32:21,540 --> 00:32:26,821 enough in his mind. And when the gun went off, she claimed 436 00:32:26,845 --> 00:32:29,557 she was surprised, although she then helped pull the body out 437 00:32:29,581 --> 00:32:32,927 of the car and kick him down into the culvert. From 438 00:32:32,951 --> 00:32:36,431 danielle's perspective, I think she wanted the police to 439 00:32:36,455 --> 00:32:39,834 believe that they were only gonna use the gun to scare 440 00:32:39,858 --> 00:32:43,271 people and get money. She did not want the police believing 441 00:32:43,295 --> 00:32:46,841 that she knew that the murders would happen beforehand. As she 442 00:32:46,865 --> 00:32:53,247 said in the interview, this was the beginning of his life of 443 00:32:53,271 --> 00:32:56,918 crime and that maybe he enjoyed it a little bit. Danielle 444 00:32:56,942 --> 00:33:01,689 claims that Chaz told her, "don't worry about it. If we 445 00:33:01,713 --> 00:33:04,992 ever get caught, " and that's a big if in his mind, "if we ever 446 00:33:05,016 --> 00:33:08,629 get caught, I'll take full responsibility and you won't 447 00:33:08,653 --> 00:33:10,593 "have any blame in this whatsoever." 448 00:33:16,795 --> 00:33:18,773 Two cab drivers murdered within 48 hours of each other. 449 00:33:18,797 --> 00:33:23,578 The tension in the city with these reports coming out, it 450 00:33:23,602 --> 00:33:27,682 was very real. And now we finally have two suspects that 451 00:33:27,706 --> 00:33:30,885 have been arrested. And the city of Houston, you could 452 00:33:30,909 --> 00:33:34,856 almost sense a sigh of relief. Chaz blackshear and Danielle 453 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,024 Hudson were now looking at two counts of first‐degree murder. 454 00:33:37,048 --> 00:33:45,048 During the interview with Danielle, my partner's in the 455 00:33:45,724 --> 00:33:49,070 other room with Chaz, and they've been talking for a long 456 00:33:49,094 --> 00:33:52,173 time, and he was a pretty cool character. He wasn't giving an 457 00:33:52,197 --> 00:33:56,277 inch. Detective waters told Chaz, 458 00:33:56,301 --> 00:33:58,379 you know, "danielle's talking to us. She's telling us what" 459 00:33:58,403 --> 00:34:01,449 happened. She's telling us that you were involved and that you 460 00:34:01,473 --> 00:34:04,018 "are the shooter in both of those cases." And Chaz wouldn't 461 00:34:04,042 --> 00:34:07,154 bite. He didn't believe that she was telling them. He said, 462 00:34:07,178 --> 00:34:10,458 "that's not the truth." Sergeant Harris had Danielle 463 00:34:10,482 --> 00:34:14,395 write a note, like, "you promised me you'd take" 464 00:34:14,419 --> 00:34:17,265 responsibility." he looks at that note, and 465 00:34:17,289 --> 00:34:21,035 it doesn't break him. He looks at it, and he says, "she didn't" 466 00:34:21,059 --> 00:34:25,006 write this. There's no spelling mistakes. She's not that 467 00:34:25,030 --> 00:34:29,944 "smart." still not breaking. We bring in the photographs, and 468 00:34:29,968 --> 00:34:33,581 on one of the photographs, Danielle has circled Chaz and 469 00:34:33,605 --> 00:34:37,485 she writes in her own handwriting, "my ex‐boyfriend." 470 00:34:37,509 --> 00:34:42,323 He's surprised. And then finally, as a result of seeing 471 00:34:42,347 --> 00:34:45,927 more and more of these photographs that she has signed 472 00:34:45,951 --> 00:34:48,429 off on, he then agrees to tell the full story to my partner. 473 00:34:48,453 --> 00:34:56,453 Chaz blackshear said he would tell the police 474 00:34:57,529 --> 00:35:00,641 everything, but not until he had a chance to talk to 475 00:35:00,665 --> 00:35:03,544 Danielle. "I want to see her." If you let me see her, I'll 476 00:35:03,568 --> 00:35:05,947 tell you whatever you want to know. "We said," well, we don't 477 00:35:05,971 --> 00:35:09,750 ‐‐ we're not gonna put her in the room first. Tell us first, 478 00:35:09,774 --> 00:35:14,689 "and then we'll see what we can do." And he does. He describes 479 00:35:14,713 --> 00:35:19,894 in detail what he did. The actual, quote, confession 480 00:35:19,918 --> 00:35:24,165 itself is probably less than five to seven minutes. What 481 00:35:24,189 --> 00:35:27,101 happens next is pretty incredible. 482 00:35:27,125 --> 00:35:34,942 The detectives were true to their word. After Chaz 483 00:35:34,966 --> 00:35:37,478 confessed and told them what had happened in the crimes, 484 00:35:37,502 --> 00:35:40,648 they allowed Danielle to be in the same room with Chaz. You 485 00:35:40,672 --> 00:35:46,420 could see what their relationship was like, and 486 00:35:46,444 --> 00:35:48,623 there was no fear on danielle's face. As a matter of fact, 487 00:35:48,647 --> 00:35:50,958 instead of sitting in a chair across the table from him, she 488 00:35:50,982 --> 00:35:52,827 went right up to him and sat in his lap. 489 00:35:52,851 --> 00:35:58,032 Her arms are curled around his head, like almost massaging 490 00:35:58,056 --> 00:36:02,069 his ears and scratching his head and saying, "well, you" 491 00:36:02,093 --> 00:36:07,808 told me that you would do this and that you would take 492 00:36:07,832 --> 00:36:09,610 "responsibility because I have my son." 493 00:36:09,634 --> 00:36:15,650 When they let her come talk to me, I told her then, you 494 00:36:15,674 --> 00:36:19,286 know what I'm saying, "I got you. Put it on me. But you got" 495 00:36:19,310 --> 00:36:21,956 to do the same. It's the only way you can get out of it." 496 00:36:21,980 --> 00:36:24,759 He then asked her, "are you going to jail?" And she 497 00:36:24,783 --> 00:36:27,895 doesn't know at that point, because in our interview, I 498 00:36:27,919 --> 00:36:30,931 said, "I don't know if you're going to be charged." Basically, 499 00:36:30,955 --> 00:36:35,169 depends on what she says. Do you hate me? 500 00:36:35,193 --> 00:36:38,372 No. That's why, that's why I confessed to it. If I hated you, 501 00:36:38,396 --> 00:36:43,911 I wouldn't have did it. Criminals normally aren't 502 00:36:43,935 --> 00:36:47,114 very smart, and so the fact that the two of them were 503 00:36:47,138 --> 00:36:50,051 together and they spoke so openly talking about the case, 504 00:36:50,075 --> 00:36:53,154 who was gonna take the blame, they must been shocked when 505 00:36:53,178 --> 00:36:54,955 they realize that the police were listening to every word. 506 00:36:54,979 --> 00:36:58,359 Once we had the confessions from Chaz and Danielle, we then 507 00:36:58,383 --> 00:37:02,329 filed formal charges of capital murder against them for both of 508 00:37:02,353 --> 00:37:07,435 the cab drivers. Just because she didn't 509 00:37:07,459 --> 00:37:10,071 shoot the victims, just because she wasn't the one actually 510 00:37:10,095 --> 00:37:12,273 pulling the trigger doesn't mean that she was gonna get off 511 00:37:12,297 --> 00:37:16,243 completely scot‐free. In the end, both Chaz 512 00:37:16,267 --> 00:37:20,748 blackshear and Danielle Hudson plead guilty. 513 00:37:20,772 --> 00:37:25,786 She was allowed to plead guilty to a lesser included 514 00:37:25,810 --> 00:37:30,057 offense. The state chose to seek the death penalty against 515 00:37:30,081 --> 00:37:32,827 Chaz blackshear because we thought the cases were 516 00:37:32,851 --> 00:37:35,362 cold‐blooded enough, and we thought a jury would return a 517 00:37:35,386 --> 00:37:38,766 verdict of death. Danielle Hudson gets 518 00:37:38,790 --> 00:37:42,470 sentenced to 40 years, 40 years in Texas, department of 519 00:37:42,494 --> 00:37:47,274 corrections ‐‐ tdc. Chaz blackshear, he also pleads 520 00:37:47,298 --> 00:37:51,212 guilty. My lawyer at the time didn't 521 00:37:51,236 --> 00:37:56,617 understand. At the time, they were trying to get me the death 522 00:37:56,641 --> 00:37:59,386 penalty, you know? And I wasn't trying to fight it. And I 523 00:37:59,410 --> 00:38:02,690 really didn't care about it. Long as they got off, then I 524 00:38:02,714 --> 00:38:06,093 was good no matter what, you know, what I'm saying? Whether 525 00:38:06,117 --> 00:38:08,028 it's death, whether it's life, whether it's freedom. I put 526 00:38:08,052 --> 00:38:10,231 them before myself and that's what a family man does. 527 00:38:10,255 --> 00:38:18,255 Chaz, he takes a life sentence without the 528 00:38:19,998 --> 00:38:22,009 possibility of parole. He will die behind bars in tdc. 529 00:38:22,033 --> 00:38:30,033 I would say that Chaz blackshear and Danielle Hudson 530 00:38:31,609 --> 00:38:34,889 were both just cold‐blooded killers. They really don't care 531 00:38:34,913 --> 00:38:38,159 about anybody who isn't part of their immediate family or their 532 00:38:38,183 --> 00:38:42,696 inner circle. The cab drivers that they killed were nothing 533 00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:46,200 and nobody to them. Danielle had a child. And so 534 00:38:46,224 --> 00:38:49,970 potentially the motive behind this was maybe they were trying 535 00:38:49,994 --> 00:38:54,008 to provide for the child. And then it just kind of spiraled 536 00:38:54,032 --> 00:38:57,444 out of control. Would they have gone on to 537 00:38:57,468 --> 00:39:01,348 kill again? I'm convinced of it. How many more dead bodies 538 00:39:01,372 --> 00:39:04,351 would there have been? Who knows? I was very grateful to 539 00:39:04,375 --> 00:39:08,489 see that they were stopped before we could find that 540 00:39:08,513 --> 00:39:15,029 answer out. In either case, society lost two people who 541 00:39:15,053 --> 00:39:18,666 were family men, who loved their children, who needed to 542 00:39:18,690 --> 00:39:22,870 be treated with dignity in life, and certainly were not treated 543 00:39:22,894 --> 00:39:28,434 with dignity in death by these two crooks. 52862

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