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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,000 Dead. Authorities say this is becki dillard was found 2 00:00:21,021 --> 00:00:23,967 near where becki's body was found. They say she was near 3 00:00:23,991 --> 00:00:27,437 her car, but her injuries were not consistent with that of a 4 00:00:27,461 --> 00:00:31,508 car crash. The vehicle was still 5 00:00:31,532 --> 00:00:34,511 running. The young lady was laying in the roadway with a 6 00:00:34,535 --> 00:00:37,647 gunshot wound to her head. When Justin drank, he became 7 00:00:37,671 --> 00:00:39,449 a totally different person. He became angry. 8 00:00:39,473 --> 00:00:45,121 Every day, I've gone over what happened, if I could do 9 00:00:45,145 --> 00:00:49,225 anything different. A lot of cases turn on just 10 00:00:49,249 --> 00:00:50,994 luck. And that's what happened in this case. 11 00:00:51,018 --> 00:00:53,930 Adrenaline was coursing through my veins. How far 12 00:00:53,954 --> 00:00:57,000 behind was I from the killer? Five unique perspectives. 13 00:00:57,024 --> 00:00:59,903 Five points of view. One murder. 14 00:00:59,927 --> 00:01:04,073 I'm becki dillard's husband. I am becki's mother. 15 00:01:04,097 --> 00:01:06,376 I was the first responding trooper to the murder. 16 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,346 I'm a criminal investigator. And I was the prosecuting 17 00:01:10,370 --> 00:01:18,370 attorney. My name's Justin dillard. 18 00:01:23,650 --> 00:01:28,197 I'm becki dillard's husband. Becki was like a little 19 00:01:28,221 --> 00:01:30,767 Bumblebee. She was adhd, running around, touching 20 00:01:30,791 --> 00:01:36,806 everybody, making everybody's life happy. Like a little fairy, 21 00:01:36,830 --> 00:01:41,844 just as sweet as she could be. I loved that she could walk in 22 00:01:41,868 --> 00:01:46,583 a room, and it could be a bad day in that room, and she'd 23 00:01:46,607 --> 00:01:49,352 just turn it all around. "I'm here. Here I am. Smile now." 24 00:01:49,376 --> 00:01:53,256 "It's okay." We were doing pretty good at that 25 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,327 happily‐ever‐after fairy tale, kind of what we wanted. Here we 26 00:01:57,351 --> 00:02:00,730 are married, down the road, and kids. This is my best friend, 27 00:02:00,754 --> 00:02:07,604 my wife, mother of my kids. We were supposed to be together, 28 00:02:07,628 --> 00:02:12,842 arguing, bickering over her cooking 20 years from now. My 29 00:02:12,866 --> 00:02:20,783 life literally changed ‐‐ all ‐‐ it changed completely in one 30 00:02:20,807 --> 00:02:28,807 day. I have never felt the pain that I felt. I wouldn't wish 31 00:02:34,588 --> 00:02:39,836 this on anybody. It was Friday the 13th. I remember thinking, 32 00:02:39,860 --> 00:02:45,241 "oh, lord, here we go. What's gonna happen today?" Becki got 33 00:02:45,265 --> 00:02:49,245 home and changed and was getting ready to go to her 34 00:02:49,269 --> 00:02:52,749 sister's party. It was sarah's 21st birthday party. She was 35 00:02:52,773 --> 00:02:55,418 already late. She had to get gas, she had to go back to 36 00:02:55,442 --> 00:02:57,820 Walmart. She was gonna pick something up for Sarah. I 37 00:02:57,844 --> 00:03:01,157 really didn't want to go. I changed my mind two or three 38 00:03:01,181 --> 00:03:04,127 times and finally, I decided, "you know what? I'll just stay 39 00:03:04,151 --> 00:03:09,799 "home." well, at 9:30 that night, her brother had called and said, 40 00:03:09,823 --> 00:03:16,973 "where's becki?" She should be there pretty soon. She left at 41 00:03:16,997 --> 00:03:22,578 9:00. 10:00 came around, and she still wasn't there. Talked 42 00:03:22,602 --> 00:03:26,115 to Sarah that time, and Sarah said, "well, she should be here" 43 00:03:26,139 --> 00:03:30,787 by now." And I said, "well, yeah, she should be there." And 44 00:03:30,811 --> 00:03:34,257 she still wasn't. By the third phone call, I was worried. I 45 00:03:34,281 --> 00:03:39,762 thought, "okay, something ain't right." At that point, I knew 46 00:03:39,786 --> 00:03:46,135 it was not good. So then, okay, we need to go find out where 47 00:03:46,159 --> 00:03:51,774 she's at. So I called my friend Lindsey that was also her 48 00:03:51,798 --> 00:03:55,178 friend, as well. I said, "Lindsey, come up here and get 49 00:03:55,202 --> 00:03:58,681 me." so Lindsey says, "I'm on my way." And she comes and gets 50 00:03:58,705 --> 00:04:06,705 me, and we try to track her down, and we went where she was 51 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,125 supposed to be going. We actually went to the gas 52 00:04:09,149 --> 00:04:12,628 station she was going to. We went the way she was going, and 53 00:04:12,652 --> 00:04:16,632 she wasn't on the side of road. Nobody knows where she's at. 54 00:04:16,656 --> 00:04:20,103 And that's not like her. We always knew where everybody 55 00:04:20,127 --> 00:04:25,541 else was. We get to the party and there's some police that 56 00:04:25,565 --> 00:04:33,565 want to talk to me. They tell me that I need to come with 57 00:04:34,808 --> 00:04:38,988 them. I didn't think it had anything to do with becki. My 58 00:04:39,012 --> 00:04:41,691 world was perfect. And she's not supposed to be hurt. She's 59 00:04:41,715 --> 00:04:49,715 not supposed to be harmed. That never crossed my mind. When 60 00:04:50,223 --> 00:04:58,174 becki and I met, we hit it off right off, right off the bat. 61 00:04:58,198 --> 00:05:02,612 We became really close, really good friends. Becki was the new 62 00:05:02,636 --> 00:05:05,481 girl. And, you know, when somebody is new, everybody 63 00:05:05,505 --> 00:05:06,883 wants to find out about them, what they're doing, who they 64 00:05:06,907 --> 00:05:10,620 are, what's going on. And I had a small, little crush on her. 65 00:05:10,644 --> 00:05:14,957 Our interests were very similar. She was into fashion 66 00:05:14,981 --> 00:05:17,727 and clothes and hair and appearance. And I know that 67 00:05:17,751 --> 00:05:20,696 sounds vain, but back then, we were still in high school. We'd 68 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,932 call each other and be like, "well, what are you gonna wear? 69 00:05:22,956 --> 00:05:28,571 "I'm gonna wear this." We were always inseparable, but we were, 70 00:05:28,595 --> 00:05:32,642 for real, together. We graduated high school in may. 71 00:05:32,666 --> 00:05:40,666 And by mid‐june, she moved in with me and my mom. I got to 72 00:05:43,710 --> 00:05:48,791 the police station. I sat there, and it seemed like I sat there 73 00:05:48,815 --> 00:05:53,429 forever and ever and ever before anybody even came in. 74 00:05:53,453 --> 00:06:01,453 And but then this man came in. They wouldn't tell me anything. 75 00:06:02,529 --> 00:06:07,310 They wanted me to answer all these questions, but they would 76 00:06:07,334 --> 00:06:08,945 not answer any of mine. And finally, this older gentleman 77 00:06:08,969 --> 00:06:13,149 said, "well, we found becki without a pulse." I'll never 78 00:06:13,173 --> 00:06:20,456 forget the pain, the sickness. That is not something you can 79 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:24,360 describe, when someone tells you your whole world is not 80 00:06:24,384 --> 00:06:30,299 alive, is gone, is dead, is over ‐‐ that blunt. You don't 81 00:06:30,323 --> 00:06:37,506 just do that to somebody. They questioned me for, it seemed 82 00:06:37,530 --> 00:06:39,375 like hours. They asked me questions like, "do you have" 83 00:06:39,399 --> 00:06:42,778 weapons? Do you have guns? Is there anybody that would harm 84 00:06:42,802 --> 00:06:50,052 her? Would you harm her? "I watch enough TV to know that" 85 00:06:50,076 --> 00:06:54,056 they come after the husband or the spouse in these situations. 86 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:58,320 I thought, "well, surely." 87 00:07:00,620 --> 00:07:08,271 I'm Clinton howell. I was the first responding trooper to 88 00:07:08,295 --> 00:07:16,295 the murder of becki dillard. I was north of west plains on 63 89 00:07:17,404 --> 00:07:18,848 highway working some traffic that night. And troop called me 90 00:07:18,872 --> 00:07:26,872 and informed me of a motor vehicle crash with injuries on 91 00:07:29,182 --> 00:07:32,762 ff highway, in the Southern part of howell county. While I 92 00:07:32,786 --> 00:07:35,932 was en route, then I was advised that there may be a 93 00:07:35,956 --> 00:07:38,301 fatality involved. I come around the corner, and there 94 00:07:38,325 --> 00:07:43,873 was a vehicle sitting on the left‐hand side of the road in 95 00:07:43,897 --> 00:07:46,776 the grass, still running. And I could see a young lady laying 96 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,412 near the center line, all crumpled up, and there was a 97 00:07:49,436 --> 00:07:53,883 few people standing around. I jumped out of my car real quick 98 00:07:53,907 --> 00:07:55,952 and went right to her right off the bat. I noticed blood on her 99 00:07:55,976 --> 00:08:03,976 scalp. I assessed her real quick, and she was already 100 00:08:06,886 --> 00:08:14,403 gone. There was nothing I could do for her at that point. This 101 00:08:14,427 --> 00:08:19,308 young lady was still very warm. It wasn't like she'd been 102 00:08:19,332 --> 00:08:23,779 laying there very long. It was an odd scenario because the 103 00:08:23,803 --> 00:08:27,316 vehicle didn't have any damage on it when I rolled up. And it 104 00:08:27,340 --> 00:08:32,421 was upright, sitting off in the grass like it had been pulled 105 00:08:32,445 --> 00:08:40,445 off there. So my gut instinct was already going wild. Started 106 00:08:43,356 --> 00:08:47,069 looking around, located a couple shell casings in the 107 00:08:47,093 --> 00:08:50,906 road near her body. They shined in my patrol car headlights. 108 00:08:50,930 --> 00:08:58,930 Adrenaline was coursing through my veins. Is there somebody out 109 00:08:59,706 --> 00:09:07,706 just 20 feet off the road in the brush? Because there's no 110 00:09:09,315 --> 00:09:14,864 lighting out there, and the only way the scene's lit up is 111 00:09:14,888 --> 00:09:16,632 with my patrol car headlights. I knew that I needed some help 112 00:09:16,656 --> 00:09:18,901 real quick. I immediately keyed up and told troop to get ddcc 113 00:09:18,925 --> 00:09:21,470 investigators en route. As I'm waiting for my investigators 114 00:09:21,494 --> 00:09:24,407 and backup to show up, I'm telling everybody to stay put 115 00:09:24,431 --> 00:09:27,877 and not move because they're actively part of a crime scene. 116 00:09:27,901 --> 00:09:31,380 One of them could be the shooter. So I visited with each 117 00:09:31,404 --> 00:09:33,849 one of them individually to try to assess them and their story, 118 00:09:33,873 --> 00:09:38,587 why they were there. There was no flags from anybody I talked 119 00:09:38,611 --> 00:09:42,992 to. I moved over to her vehicle, making sure not to touch it, 120 00:09:43,016 --> 00:09:47,730 looked in it through the glass. I could shine my flashlight in 121 00:09:47,754 --> 00:09:52,635 there. I could see that the heater was on and it was 122 00:09:52,659 --> 00:09:56,539 sitting there idling. Her purse was still there in the vehicle. 123 00:09:56,563 --> 00:09:59,608 It didn't appear to be disturbed. It was, like, in the 124 00:09:59,632 --> 00:10:03,879 same spot where she had set it, over in the passenger side. 125 00:10:03,903 --> 00:10:06,715 When people break in and steal vehicles, of course, they 126 00:10:06,739 --> 00:10:13,289 usually dump them or scatter stuff. Robbery was not a motive 127 00:10:13,313 --> 00:10:21,163 with this victim. When entry was made into the vehicle, it 128 00:10:21,187 --> 00:10:23,699 was made by Warren wiedemann, our ddcc investigator. He 129 00:10:23,723 --> 00:10:26,669 looked in her purse, of course, so there was a driver's license 130 00:10:26,693 --> 00:10:28,904 and it was easy to make positive identification right 131 00:10:28,928 --> 00:10:33,409 there. Her name was becki dillard, from the west plains 132 00:10:33,433 --> 00:10:36,812 area. The early assumption is that she was traveling to an 133 00:10:36,836 --> 00:10:39,782 undisclosed location ‐‐ we didn't know ‐‐ and for some 134 00:10:39,806 --> 00:10:44,320 reason, she got flagged down, and she exited her vehicle to 135 00:10:44,344 --> 00:10:48,190 get out and talk to them, and they shot her right there in 136 00:10:48,214 --> 00:10:51,494 the middle of the road. She would not stop in the middle of 137 00:10:51,518 --> 00:10:55,531 the night for a stranger in the middle of nowhere on this old 138 00:10:55,555 --> 00:10:58,367 backroad. It was blatantly obvious it was somebody that 139 00:10:58,391 --> 00:11:01,237 she knew and that she felt comfortable with. Everything 140 00:11:01,261 --> 00:11:03,973 was intact. None of her clothing was ripped. There was 141 00:11:03,997 --> 00:11:07,776 no signs of no struggle. So all the obvious indicators are it 142 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,779 was a hit. And it was our job to find out why and get that 143 00:11:10,803 --> 00:11:13,816 person. If there's a fatality involved, then I have to notify 144 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:21,840 next of kin and contact family. And we never do that by the 145 00:11:25,552 --> 00:11:32,368 phone. We always do it in person. Throughout our 146 00:11:32,392 --> 00:11:34,537 conversations with some of our local contacts and people, we 147 00:11:34,561 --> 00:11:36,505 were able to determine that becki had a husband and his 148 00:11:36,529 --> 00:11:39,642 name was Justin dillard. Of course, we don't rule out 149 00:11:39,666 --> 00:11:44,113 anybody at that early stage. Everybody is a suspect at that 150 00:11:44,137 --> 00:11:46,515 point, and we needed to interview him. We developed 151 00:11:46,539 --> 00:11:49,652 information that becki's husband was at a party on a 152 00:11:49,676 --> 00:11:53,055 county road west of west plains. So me and a deputy 153 00:11:53,079 --> 00:12:01,079 rolled onto that location. We tell him that we have, you know, 154 00:12:03,223 --> 00:12:05,868 some bad news for him. He's distraught. Very, very, very 155 00:12:05,892 --> 00:12:08,003 dramatic. Some initial observations that made some 156 00:12:08,027 --> 00:12:14,710 flags go off, from just an investigation standpoint ‐‐ 157 00:12:14,734 --> 00:12:17,713 he's a young male married to a beautiful young woman with two 158 00:12:17,737 --> 00:12:23,686 beautiful kids, and he's wearing pink cowboy boots, a 159 00:12:23,710 --> 00:12:31,710 pink shirt, and has makeup on. And that may not be a flag in a 160 00:12:33,019 --> 00:12:36,932 Metro area, but in rural howell county, that's a huge flag. We 161 00:12:36,956 --> 00:12:40,669 had to figure out, was there, you know, extramarital affairs 162 00:12:40,693 --> 00:12:46,408 going on? Was there domestic violence? We placed him in a 163 00:12:46,432 --> 00:12:50,579 patrol car, headed towards the sheriff's office as quickly and 164 00:12:50,603 --> 00:12:55,718 safely as possible. At that point, it was time for me to 165 00:12:55,742 --> 00:13:01,924 step back out. When I left the sheriff's office that night, he 166 00:13:01,948 --> 00:13:04,618 was one of the suspect. 167 00:13:27,940 --> 00:13:31,086 I am Debbie talbert, becki's mother. Around 2:00 that night, 168 00:13:31,110 --> 00:13:34,356 the phone rang. I got up and answered it. And it was becki's 169 00:13:34,380 --> 00:13:38,394 father, Benny. He was crying, which is unusual for Benny, and 170 00:13:38,418 --> 00:13:44,533 he said, "something has happened to becki, and you need" 171 00:13:44,557 --> 00:13:51,206 "to come to the police station right now." We got there to the 172 00:13:51,230 --> 00:13:55,678 police station. Charlie, who was sarah's husband at the time, 173 00:13:55,702 --> 00:13:59,882 grabbed me and sat me down, and told me that becki was gone. 174 00:13:59,906 --> 00:14:04,286 Before I even had a chance to react at that particular time, 175 00:14:04,310 --> 00:14:07,523 Justin comes running in the room and grabs me by the head 176 00:14:07,547 --> 00:14:11,593 and said, "oh, my god, oh, my god, becki's dead," and 177 00:14:11,617 --> 00:14:19,617 started crying. I immediately, instead of crying, got angry 178 00:14:19,659 --> 00:14:27,443 because I knew that he had done something. I wasn't surprised 179 00:14:27,467 --> 00:14:35,467 when becki told me that she was seeing Justin. I thought he was 180 00:14:36,476 --> 00:14:44,476 a little feminine then, but he seemed to be a really nice boy, 181 00:14:44,650 --> 00:14:50,833 and they hit it off pretty good. Justin would listen to 182 00:14:50,857 --> 00:14:53,869 becki, and he knew exactly what to say to her. He was a more 183 00:14:53,893 --> 00:14:56,739 softer person, more gentle. When becki found out she was 184 00:14:56,763 --> 00:15:00,442 pregnant, she had a good support system on both sides. 185 00:15:00,466 --> 00:15:04,113 Both becki and Justin wanted to go to cosmetology school. 186 00:15:04,137 --> 00:15:09,885 Justin's mom, Debra, took care of cobey while they went to 187 00:15:09,909 --> 00:15:13,255 school. And they were getting along really good living at 188 00:15:13,279 --> 00:15:19,228 debra's house. When they were going to school, Justin started 189 00:15:19,252 --> 00:15:27,252 to drink a little bit more. I don't exactly know why. Maybe 190 00:15:31,931 --> 00:15:39,931 he was more scared of actually raising cobey and providing for 191 00:15:41,507 --> 00:15:49,507 cobey as a father. He was falling down on his duties as a 192 00:15:56,856 --> 00:15:59,435 provider for the family. And a lot of times, he missed school 193 00:15:59,459 --> 00:16:02,871 because he over‐drank the night before. It was causing a rift 194 00:16:02,895 --> 00:16:08,143 in their relationship. She didn't want to live in that 195 00:16:08,167 --> 00:16:11,547 house forever. She wanted her own house, just like every 196 00:16:11,571 --> 00:16:15,217 person does. Becki was hoping that once they had saved up 197 00:16:15,241 --> 00:16:23,241 enough money, they could get a place of their own and they 198 00:16:25,351 --> 00:16:29,364 could actually make a go of being a happy family. Well, 199 00:16:29,388 --> 00:16:34,336 after cobey was about 3 1/2 years old, becki became 200 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,906 pregnant again. She had asked Justin to stop drinking because 201 00:16:37,930 --> 00:16:40,909 she wanted to have another child. So he did for a while, 202 00:16:40,933 --> 00:16:45,547 and then after she became pregnant again, he started 203 00:16:45,571 --> 00:16:49,485 drinking again. When Justin drank, he became a totally 204 00:16:49,509 --> 00:16:52,821 different person. He became angry at everything and 205 00:16:52,845 --> 00:16:57,392 everyone. I begged her to please come and stay with us, 206 00:16:57,416 --> 00:17:00,629 but she wouldn't do it. Becki did have some hope that they 207 00:17:00,653 --> 00:17:05,601 would be able to be together and make a happy family. But in 208 00:17:05,625 --> 00:17:07,936 my heart, I didn't see that happening. So she started 209 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:15,377 taking some of her check and hiding it so that she would 210 00:17:15,401 --> 00:17:20,215 have some money, eventually, to get an apartment or a down 211 00:17:20,239 --> 00:17:24,186 payment on a home. She was trying to move out of the house 212 00:17:24,210 --> 00:17:28,957 with Justin and get out from underneath the chaos that was 213 00:17:28,981 --> 00:17:35,831 in the dillard home. Whenever someone is murdered, you 214 00:17:35,855 --> 00:17:43,855 usually look to the spouse first. On that particular night, 215 00:17:46,132 --> 00:17:51,380 Justin did show up at sarah's party at a particular time, and 216 00:17:51,404 --> 00:17:56,818 he was yelling and crying out, "where's becki? Where's becki? 217 00:17:56,842 --> 00:17:59,922 "And they didn't know what was going on. He was crying, "oh, 218 00:17:59,946 --> 00:18:04,660 "she's in a ditch somewhere, dead." My whole family knew 219 00:18:04,684 --> 00:18:12,534 that Justin was involved in some way. They just had to 220 00:18:12,558 --> 00:18:20,558 prove it. Whoever was in the truck following becki had 221 00:18:26,072 --> 00:18:31,219 stopped her on the highway. There was a vehicle that came 222 00:18:31,243 --> 00:18:36,024 from the opposite direction, and they saw both vehicles 223 00:18:36,048 --> 00:18:42,264 stopped there. There's two cars. A s. U. V. 224 00:18:42,288 --> 00:18:45,701 And, uh, I think a Chevy pickup. It was parked on the 225 00:18:45,725 --> 00:18:48,770 side of the road. It was a big break in the 226 00:18:48,794 --> 00:18:56,794 case for the detectives, because had not someone 227 00:18:57,770 --> 00:19:01,516 remembered seeing that truck on the road, they probably never 228 00:19:01,540 --> 00:19:03,880 would have been pointed in the right direction. 229 00:19:12,284 --> 00:19:16,698 My name is Warren wiedemann with the Missouri state highway 230 00:19:16,722 --> 00:19:18,200 patrol. I'm a criminal investigator, and I assisted in 231 00:19:18,224 --> 00:19:20,502 the investigation in the homicide of becki dillard. When 232 00:19:20,526 --> 00:19:22,471 I advised Justin of his Miranda rights, he became extremely 233 00:19:22,495 --> 00:19:25,741 emotional, to the point of almost being hysterical. It was 234 00:19:25,765 --> 00:19:32,881 obvious that he was under the influence of something. We 235 00:19:32,905 --> 00:19:37,853 weren't really getting a whole lot out of him. He was leaning 236 00:19:37,877 --> 00:19:44,192 forward and just rocking side to side and crying. He just 237 00:19:44,216 --> 00:19:49,931 didn't seem that concerned to help us. He was more worried 238 00:19:49,955 --> 00:19:52,701 about his own emotions than he was trying to figure out what 239 00:19:52,725 --> 00:19:56,104 happened to his wife. We didn't have enough to take him into 240 00:19:56,128 --> 00:19:58,607 custody, but we still felt it was very possible that he was 241 00:19:58,631 --> 00:20:02,978 involved in this death. Lieutenant Gary lambe and I 242 00:20:03,002 --> 00:20:11,002 began to interview numerous people that had been at the 243 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:26,468 party. Dean ellis'name came up quite a bit. We found out the 244 00:20:26,492 --> 00:20:29,137 Dean Ellis was actually justin's father, who had had 245 00:20:29,161 --> 00:20:31,773 nothing to do with Justin for about 15 years. And it was my 246 00:20:31,797 --> 00:20:35,811 understanding that Dean Ellis was having some heart problems 247 00:20:35,835 --> 00:20:38,747 and had decided he wanted to basically reconnect with his 248 00:20:38,771 --> 00:20:42,117 family and get to know his son. So Dean Ellis, just a short 249 00:20:42,141 --> 00:20:46,655 time before this, had actually moved back into Debra dillard's 250 00:20:46,679 --> 00:20:49,357 residence with Debra dillard and her current boyfriend, and 251 00:20:49,381 --> 00:20:55,030 becki dillard and her husband, Justin. So it was unusual 252 00:20:55,054 --> 00:20:57,599 having your father living with your mother and your mother's 253 00:20:57,623 --> 00:21:02,671 boyfriend, all in the same residence. We'd gone back to 254 00:21:02,695 --> 00:21:09,077 the residence to photograph vehicles, to check for any 255 00:21:09,101 --> 00:21:11,680 firearms and other weapons at the residence. And then when 256 00:21:11,704 --> 00:21:16,551 Dean was there, as he came out, you know, I asked if he'd be 257 00:21:16,575 --> 00:21:20,522 willing to talk to me. He was an older man, did not seem very 258 00:21:20,546 --> 00:21:23,892 healthy, did not get around real well. It just did not 259 00:21:23,916 --> 00:21:29,364 appear that he was involved. He didn't have the ability to 260 00:21:29,388 --> 00:21:33,735 leave the residence. He was pretty open with discussing, 261 00:21:33,759 --> 00:21:37,672 you know, the coming and goings at the house, of becki getting 262 00:21:37,696 --> 00:21:39,007 home from work, of Debra dillard going to run errands, 263 00:21:39,031 --> 00:21:41,243 about what time people got home. It did kind of stand out 264 00:21:41,267 --> 00:21:43,211 to me when he told me that Billy eastep had been sleeping 265 00:21:43,235 --> 00:21:44,713 all evening through all of this. Billy eastep's name had 266 00:21:44,737 --> 00:21:47,582 come up during the investigation. That was Deborah 267 00:21:47,606 --> 00:21:50,285 dillard's boyfriend and lived with her. I specifically asked 268 00:21:50,309 --> 00:21:53,121 him, "how do you know that he was sleeping?" And that's when 269 00:21:53,145 --> 00:21:56,925 he pointed out that that's what Debra dillard had told him to 270 00:21:56,949 --> 00:22:00,162 tell us. Now, it seemed unusual that Debra dillard is providing 271 00:22:00,186 --> 00:22:07,169 alibis for Billy eastep. That was definitely a red flag. Our 272 00:22:07,193 --> 00:22:15,193 initial interview with Billy, basically, we were just trying 273 00:22:17,236 --> 00:22:21,616 to kind of go through the timeline of the previous day. 274 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,786 It seemed like he was trying to distance himself from 275 00:22:24,810 --> 00:22:28,590 everything and just say he was asleep and knew nothing. I felt 276 00:22:28,614 --> 00:22:32,994 like he was holding information back. Between Debra dillard, 277 00:22:33,018 --> 00:22:40,569 Justin dillard, and Billy eastep, we're really narrowing 278 00:22:40,593 --> 00:22:44,739 it down, but we're not sure if it's all of them, one of them. 279 00:22:44,763 --> 00:22:50,879 So we're still looking for more physical evidence. About five 280 00:22:50,903 --> 00:22:54,583 days later, a witness comes forward. And that was a big 281 00:22:54,607 --> 00:22:58,386 turning point in this investigation. And that was 282 00:22:58,410 --> 00:23:03,258 Tyler bean. Tyler bean was driving on highway ff that 283 00:23:03,282 --> 00:23:07,195 night with his girlfriend. There was a vehicle sitting 284 00:23:07,219 --> 00:23:10,599 facing northbound with the headlights on. And when he went 285 00:23:10,623 --> 00:23:15,904 by, Tyler described that as this black Ford explorer. And 286 00:23:15,928 --> 00:23:17,205 he said behind it was a Chevrolet pickup. 287 00:23:17,229 --> 00:23:21,142 Um, can you describe that truck for me again? 288 00:23:21,166 --> 00:23:24,613 Um, I know it was a dark‐colored Chevy pickup. It 289 00:23:24,637 --> 00:23:28,216 had a light‐colored mismatched body part on the driver's side 290 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:33,755 of it. Um, it was probably late '90s, early 2000s model. 291 00:23:33,779 --> 00:23:38,293 Okay, uh, when you say light‐colored, what color would 292 00:23:38,317 --> 00:23:42,097 you say the body part was? I'd say more like white. 293 00:23:42,121 --> 00:23:44,833 That was an absolutely huge moment. Not only that somebody 294 00:23:44,857 --> 00:23:52,857 had drove by and saw this, but somebody who knew vehicles well 295 00:23:53,399 --> 00:23:57,612 and could not only just say that he saw two vehicles ‐‐ he 296 00:23:57,636 --> 00:23:59,948 described them and was able to pick those vehicles out. He 297 00:23:59,972 --> 00:24:01,383 actually looked at photo lineups of vehicles and picked 298 00:24:01,407 --> 00:24:02,951 out the vehicle that becki dillard was driving and Billy 299 00:24:02,975 --> 00:24:08,590 eastep's truck. We absolutely wanted to bring back Billy for 300 00:24:08,614 --> 00:24:10,292 an interview and basically either confirm through a 301 00:24:10,316 --> 00:24:13,495 polygraph that he was the one that did this or to help clear 302 00:24:13,519 --> 00:24:19,935 him. The questions would be very direct of whether he 303 00:24:19,959 --> 00:24:23,405 caused the death of becki dillard or whether he knew for 304 00:24:23,429 --> 00:24:31,429 sure who did cause that death. Billy eastep showed deception 305 00:24:32,671 --> 00:24:36,451 was indicated during that examination. But in the 306 00:24:36,475 --> 00:24:41,423 post‐test interview interrogation, he did not admit 307 00:24:41,447 --> 00:24:43,892 to having shot becki or even being present when she was 308 00:24:43,916 --> 00:24:47,162 shot. He stuck to his story and continued to deny it until 309 00:24:47,186 --> 00:24:52,033 eventually he wanted to leave, and so he was allowed to leave. 310 00:24:52,057 --> 00:24:53,501 We didn't have enough at that point to charge him. His 311 00:24:53,525 --> 00:25:00,342 girlfriend, Debra dillard, is requested, and she voluntarily 312 00:25:00,366 --> 00:25:04,346 comes to the highway patrol headquarters. She is driven 313 00:25:04,370 --> 00:25:09,951 there by Billy eastep in his vehicle with the white door. 314 00:25:09,975 --> 00:25:16,324 Debra dillard comes in for her polygraph. And she also fails. 315 00:25:16,348 --> 00:25:22,430 After somebody fails a polygraph examination, in the 316 00:25:22,454 --> 00:25:27,268 post‐test interrogation, it's a very direct accusation, because 317 00:25:27,292 --> 00:25:33,008 now you know that they either did it or they know for sure 318 00:25:33,032 --> 00:25:35,143 who did it. And so you go after them. During the interrogation, 319 00:25:35,167 --> 00:25:37,746 she admits that she has lied to us and that she knows who 320 00:25:37,770 --> 00:25:45,770 killed becki dillard. And she's saying that Billy eastep is the 321 00:25:45,944 --> 00:25:51,826 one that did. She said he threw the gun into a lake and that 322 00:25:51,850 --> 00:25:54,095 the gun is gone. So, of course, with Billy eastep also being 323 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:59,968 present, officers immediately got a hold of him and began to 324 00:25:59,992 --> 00:26:02,370 talk to him, also. They're letting him know that she is 325 00:26:02,394 --> 00:26:09,544 telling the truth and she is blaming him and that he's the 326 00:26:09,568 --> 00:26:11,413 one that did it. And at that point, he admits that he was 327 00:26:11,437 --> 00:26:16,518 there and he has lied to us. But he says that Debra dillard 328 00:26:16,542 --> 00:26:17,752 was the one that pulled the trigger. 329 00:26:17,776 --> 00:26:21,606 My name is rizwan ahad, and 330 00:26:24,883 --> 00:26:28,296 my name is rizwan ahad, and I was the prosecuting attorney 331 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,434 in this case. I'd received a phone call from law enforcement 332 00:26:32,458 --> 00:26:35,770 officers that they had asked Billy eastep to come to the 333 00:26:35,794 --> 00:26:39,040 highway patrol to discuss his involvement. When I arrived, 334 00:26:39,064 --> 00:26:45,246 he'd been speaking to law enforcement for probably about 335 00:26:45,270 --> 00:26:49,484 30, 45 minutes. When Billy eastep was confronted with 336 00:26:49,508 --> 00:26:54,055 Debra dillard's statement, I just remember the surprised 337 00:26:54,079 --> 00:26:57,959 look on his face, almost like he knew he'd been caught. At 338 00:26:57,983 --> 00:27:05,300 the time that Billy eastep was arrested, we knew that Debra 339 00:27:05,324 --> 00:27:08,503 had knowledge of the murder, but we didn't know her 340 00:27:08,527 --> 00:27:09,938 involvement. When he made that statement that he was present 341 00:27:09,962 --> 00:27:13,274 at the shooting, in my mind, Debra became a stronger person 342 00:27:13,298 --> 00:27:17,078 of interest. During the investigation, we'd determined 343 00:27:17,102 --> 00:27:25,102 that Debra dillard and becki dillard had a tumultuous 344 00:27:25,677 --> 00:27:29,858 relationship, that there was a lot of animosity between the 345 00:27:29,882 --> 00:27:32,494 two of them. There were a lot of disagreements ‐‐ mostly over 346 00:27:32,518 --> 00:27:37,799 Justin, but there were other things. We learned that becki 347 00:27:37,823 --> 00:27:42,770 may have been thinking about leaving Justin. And Debra was 348 00:27:42,794 --> 00:27:47,075 very concerned that if becki were to take the children, that 349 00:27:47,099 --> 00:27:52,013 she may not have any more contact with them. Billy eastep, 350 00:27:52,037 --> 00:28:00,037 in his explanation, he stated to us that Debra dillard and 351 00:28:04,316 --> 00:28:07,862 becki had an argument, that becki was wanting to go to the 352 00:28:07,886 --> 00:28:11,199 party and that Debra wanted her to stay so that Justin could 353 00:28:11,223 --> 00:28:14,602 get ready and go with them. But becki had left. According to 354 00:28:14,626 --> 00:28:19,140 Billy eastep, he didn't know exactly what was going on. 355 00:28:19,164 --> 00:28:23,778 Debra told him to get into the vehicle, and they followed her. 356 00:28:23,802 --> 00:28:30,485 They caught up to her, at which point, Billy says, Debra 357 00:28:30,509 --> 00:28:36,357 dillard started flashing her lights. Becki pulled over. 358 00:28:36,381 --> 00:28:44,381 She got out, and she said, "becki, come here. And becki" 359 00:28:46,725 --> 00:28:53,808 started walking over there. Stopped in front of the truck, 360 00:28:53,832 --> 00:28:58,713 and she said, "Justin wants you to go back and go get him." And 361 00:28:58,737 --> 00:29:00,715 when she turned around, Deb went, "pow." 362 00:29:00,739 --> 00:29:07,355 At that point, becki went down. And Billy saw Debra walk 363 00:29:07,379 --> 00:29:12,493 up to becki and shoot her a second time. 364 00:29:12,517 --> 00:29:20,301 Then she got back in the truck, and I looked at her and 365 00:29:20,325 --> 00:29:28,325 I said, "I ‐‐ I can't believe you did it. I can't believe you" 366 00:29:33,105 --> 00:29:34,983 really did it." It would have been enough to 367 00:29:35,007 --> 00:29:36,884 charge her, but it wouldn't have been enough, I believe, at 368 00:29:36,908 --> 00:29:39,587 that point, to take her to trial and convict her. We found 369 00:29:39,611 --> 00:29:42,090 more evidence later on. What happened was, the longer Billy 370 00:29:42,114 --> 00:29:50,114 stayed in jail, the more Debra was becoming a little more 371 00:29:51,623 --> 00:29:57,872 guilt‐ridden. She started discussing with individuals 372 00:29:57,896 --> 00:30:01,676 that Billy was being railroaded, that he had nothing to do with 373 00:30:01,700 --> 00:30:07,715 it. We received information that Debra dillard had written 374 00:30:07,739 --> 00:30:14,088 a several‐page letter. Law enforcement officers then went 375 00:30:14,112 --> 00:30:20,228 to Debra dillard's house, where they discovered she was laying 376 00:30:20,252 --> 00:30:25,233 in bed with a gun next to her, and this letter that she had 377 00:30:25,257 --> 00:30:26,534 written. She's confessed in that letter that she was the 378 00:30:26,558 --> 00:30:29,103 one who shot becki dillard that night on that highway. 379 00:30:29,127 --> 00:30:30,838 According to the officers, she was very distraught. They 380 00:30:30,862 --> 00:30:35,543 stated to me she looked suicidal at that point. The 381 00:30:35,567 --> 00:30:40,248 sheriff himself, I believe, removed the gun from her. It 382 00:30:40,272 --> 00:30:44,585 was loaded. Are you're afraid of sitting 383 00:30:44,609 --> 00:30:52,609 in jail for what you've done? No. 384 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,899 No, I'm serious. I haven't done anything. 385 00:30:57,923 --> 00:31:00,201 She said that she cared about Billy so much that she 386 00:31:00,225 --> 00:31:03,638 figured that she was gonna write this letter admitting to 387 00:31:03,662 --> 00:31:06,574 this, and then killing herself so that Billy could be 388 00:31:06,598 --> 00:31:09,177 released. That's my story that I made 389 00:31:09,201 --> 00:31:11,346 up to get him out. She then said that she 390 00:31:11,370 --> 00:31:16,351 decided that she wasn't going to do it, but it was too late 391 00:31:16,375 --> 00:31:19,253 because she had already sent out these letters. 392 00:31:19,277 --> 00:31:22,290 I gotta have you tell me the absolute truth today. I am so 393 00:31:22,314 --> 00:31:24,492 sick of all the drama and the bullcrap, man, I could ‐‐ I 394 00:31:24,516 --> 00:31:26,694 could flush it all away. You don't, because I want to 395 00:31:26,718 --> 00:31:28,062 know who killed becki. And I'm telling you. 396 00:31:28,086 --> 00:31:31,265 At that point, we weren't 100 percent sure she was 397 00:31:31,289 --> 00:31:35,603 confessing to the crime or she was trying to get Billy out of 398 00:31:35,627 --> 00:31:39,974 it. I just want to believe with 399 00:31:39,998 --> 00:31:41,476 everything that I am that Billy didn't do it. 400 00:31:41,500 --> 00:31:45,713 We only have one shot to convict a person. Otherwise, 401 00:31:45,737 --> 00:31:47,849 double jeopardy attaches and we would not be able to try her 402 00:31:47,873 --> 00:31:50,251 again. You realize how bad this 403 00:31:50,275 --> 00:31:51,652 looks, Deb? I'll take my break. 404 00:31:51,676 --> 00:31:54,722 A lot of cases turn on just luck. And that's what happened 405 00:31:54,746 --> 00:31:57,959 in this case. Now, west plains is a pretty small town, and one 406 00:31:57,983 --> 00:32:03,831 day, the sheriff of howell county, Mike Shannon, happened 407 00:32:03,855 --> 00:32:08,236 to be getting a cup of coffee at the convenience store. The 408 00:32:08,260 --> 00:32:10,872 cashier made a statement to him that Debra dillard had once 409 00:32:10,896 --> 00:32:18,045 stated to her that she was going to kill becki dillard, 410 00:32:18,069 --> 00:32:22,283 but that she received a reprieve because she was 411 00:32:22,307 --> 00:32:30,307 pregnant with a child, and that she was gonna wait a year. And 412 00:32:30,782 --> 00:32:36,030 oddly enough, almost to the day, a year later, becki dillard was 413 00:32:36,054 --> 00:32:37,999 murdered. When we received that information, we felt like we 414 00:32:38,023 --> 00:32:39,901 had enough evidence to charge Debra dillard with the murder 415 00:32:39,925 --> 00:32:47,925 of becki dillard. 416 00:32:53,138 --> 00:32:57,185 I've dealt with other scenarios with in‐laws and 417 00:32:57,209 --> 00:33:01,522 family members and everything, but never nothing so violent, 418 00:33:01,546 --> 00:33:06,127 so cold‐blooded. They're just acting like the concerned 419 00:33:06,151 --> 00:33:07,595 grandparent and her boyfriend. And the whole time, they're the 420 00:33:07,619 --> 00:33:09,030 ones that done it. Every day for 10 years, I 421 00:33:09,054 --> 00:33:15,069 have gone over what happened. I don't feel that my mother had 422 00:33:15,093 --> 00:33:19,006 anything to do with it, the way that everybody is saying she 423 00:33:19,030 --> 00:33:23,544 did. Our theory behind the case 424 00:33:23,568 --> 00:33:27,615 was that Debra dillard just wanted becki out of the way. 425 00:33:27,639 --> 00:33:31,452 She was making justin's life miserable, that Debra had had 426 00:33:31,476 --> 00:33:37,024 enough. She wanted those children, 427 00:33:37,048 --> 00:33:45,048 and the only way that she saw she was gonna keep them is by 428 00:33:45,090 --> 00:33:50,705 getting rid of becki. Because Justin ‐‐ there's no way that 429 00:33:50,729 --> 00:33:52,073 he would ever get custody with his alcohol problems. 430 00:33:52,097 --> 00:33:53,374 Becki is gonna get the babies, she's gonna get child 431 00:33:53,398 --> 00:33:56,944 support, and then she's gonna go on with her life. 432 00:33:56,968 --> 00:33:58,679 Debra knew that once those children left, that becki's mom 433 00:33:58,703 --> 00:34:00,848 and the rest of her family was not gonna let those children go 434 00:34:00,872 --> 00:34:02,683 back. We believe that was the 435 00:34:02,707 --> 00:34:07,221 motivation that pushed her over the edge. That night, becki had 436 00:34:07,245 --> 00:34:09,891 angered Justin, and we believe Debra had just had enough, and 437 00:34:09,915 --> 00:34:12,159 that she was going to cure the problem. 438 00:34:12,183 --> 00:34:16,731 When I walked into the courtroom, Debra dillard looked 439 00:34:16,755 --> 00:34:24,755 at me, but I tried to ignore her as much as possible. I saw 440 00:34:32,804 --> 00:34:36,784 the hatred in her eyes. Deb dillard felt like she 441 00:34:36,808 --> 00:34:42,990 could control things, like she could make this happen and that 442 00:34:43,014 --> 00:34:46,861 she could get away with it. The defense focused on Billy 443 00:34:46,885 --> 00:34:50,398 eastep, stating that Billy was actually the one that did it. 444 00:34:50,422 --> 00:34:58,422 She had to put the blame on someone. So she chose Billy, to 445 00:35:01,232 --> 00:35:02,643 put him as the scapegoat. He knew that she had extra 446 00:35:02,667 --> 00:35:05,212 money because it was Christmas. He robbed her. And so she 447 00:35:05,236 --> 00:35:08,449 wouldn't tell on him, he killed her and played it off like 448 00:35:08,473 --> 00:35:10,918 nothing had ever even happened. We believed we had enough 449 00:35:10,942 --> 00:35:14,822 evidence to prove Debra dillard guilty beyond a reasonable 450 00:35:14,846 --> 00:35:18,626 doubt without him. But we wanted him to testify. We found 451 00:35:18,650 --> 00:35:22,463 out when we arrived for trial, is that somebody had hit Billy 452 00:35:22,487 --> 00:35:27,368 eastep, had given him a black eye. And at that point, Billy 453 00:35:27,392 --> 00:35:30,671 refused to testify. Debra dillard also took the stand, 454 00:35:30,695 --> 00:35:34,175 and she testified on her own behalf. And she explained that 455 00:35:34,199 --> 00:35:37,645 she and becki had a wonderful relationship, that she was a 456 00:35:37,669 --> 00:35:40,448 great daughter‐in‐law. She is my child. I love her. 457 00:35:40,472 --> 00:35:44,452 She didn't even know what a mama was until she ‐‐ until she 458 00:35:44,476 --> 00:35:49,457 moved into my home. She wanted me to be with 459 00:35:49,481 --> 00:35:51,826 becki. She liked becki. She still will say "my daughter" 460 00:35:51,850 --> 00:35:55,596 when she talks about becki. The entire focus of her 461 00:35:55,620 --> 00:36:00,201 cross‐examination was the letter that she had written. I 462 00:36:00,225 --> 00:36:06,340 went line by line with her on that and actually gave her the 463 00:36:06,364 --> 00:36:10,011 opportunity to explain it away. And she tried, and it was 464 00:36:10,035 --> 00:36:13,180 obvious to me that she was not being truthful. 465 00:36:13,204 --> 00:36:19,320 Her brother testified against her and actually told 466 00:36:19,344 --> 00:36:21,555 the whole court that she had conspired to do this a year 467 00:36:21,579 --> 00:36:27,495 before when she found out becki was pregnant, that she was 468 00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:30,331 going to be the one that murdered becki because she was 469 00:36:30,355 --> 00:36:34,001 bad for her son. If she was gonna kill 470 00:36:34,025 --> 00:36:36,671 somebody, it wouldn't be her children. It wouldn't be me. It 471 00:36:36,695 --> 00:36:39,073 wouldn't be becki. It wouldn't be our kids. It would be 472 00:36:39,097 --> 00:36:43,844 somebody that hurt us. My mother confessed because if she 473 00:36:43,868 --> 00:36:48,749 didn't, she was afraid that they would come after me and 474 00:36:48,773 --> 00:36:53,154 the kids. Whenever a case goes to the 475 00:36:53,178 --> 00:37:01,178 jury, I'm always concerned. Did they believe the witnesses? Did 476 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:08,502 they believe debra's version? Every prosecutor has that 477 00:37:08,526 --> 00:37:12,573 concern because, of course, we have to prove a case beyond a 478 00:37:12,597 --> 00:37:15,810 reasonable doubt. The jury found her guilty. She broke 479 00:37:15,834 --> 00:37:18,212 down. I mean, she basically fell apart. 480 00:37:18,236 --> 00:37:22,883 Not until the jury came back and said "guilty" did she show 481 00:37:22,907 --> 00:37:26,821 any kind of emotion. That just tells me she was guilty, with 482 00:37:26,845 --> 00:37:30,791 no remorse whatsoever. She didn't kill anybody. She 483 00:37:30,815 --> 00:37:33,160 wasn't there. She couldn't have been there. Whoever killed 484 00:37:33,184 --> 00:37:35,129 becki, I don't think we will ever know why. 485 00:37:35,153 --> 00:37:43,153 In a first‐degree murder case in Missouri, the only 486 00:37:51,102 --> 00:37:55,649 sentence in this case would have been life without parole. 487 00:37:55,673 --> 00:38:00,888 So when the verdict came down and the sentencing came down, I 488 00:38:00,912 --> 00:38:03,557 just felt like justice had been served. 489 00:38:03,581 --> 00:38:08,195 We were never able to prove that Justin dillard had 490 00:38:08,219 --> 00:38:10,498 anything to do with becki's death. There is suspicion. But 491 00:38:10,522 --> 00:38:18,105 even today, I couldn't tell you for sure who pulled the 492 00:38:18,129 --> 00:38:19,673 trigger. Becki's family has done a 493 00:38:19,697 --> 00:38:21,375 very good job of making me look bad. Feel like I have been 494 00:38:21,399 --> 00:38:23,577 victimized, very much so. I lost my house, my kids, my wife, 495 00:38:23,601 --> 00:38:25,446 my mom. 10 years, and it still hurts just as much. It's never 496 00:38:25,470 --> 00:38:29,250 gonna go away, ever. Whatever Justin did, Debra 497 00:38:29,274 --> 00:38:32,286 told him to do. Whatever Billy did, Debra was in control of 498 00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:40,310 that. She was the more dominant one in that home, and there was 499 00:38:42,086 --> 00:38:47,201 only one person in that home that wanted to defy her, and 500 00:38:47,225 --> 00:38:55,225 that was becki. The wolf followed becki to 501 00:38:56,334 --> 00:39:01,382 that roadside spot where she was killed. And so, we work 502 00:39:01,406 --> 00:39:08,088 hard for every victim, but it's especially difficult when you 503 00:39:08,112 --> 00:39:16,112 see somebody that isn't doing the wrong thing and bad things 504 00:39:17,188 --> 00:39:18,432 come and find them. My best friend, my wife, my 505 00:39:18,456 --> 00:39:20,768 everything is in the ground. I pray every day that heaven's 506 00:39:20,792 --> 00:39:26,707 real, because that's where she's at. And I know that all I 507 00:39:26,731 --> 00:39:34,731 have to do is keep praying and I'll see her again. 49051

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