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It was a very disturbing scene. 5 00:00:15,249 --> 00:00:21,420 Scene. >> there was smoldering smoke, 6 00:00:21,422 --> 00:00:22,221 >> there was smoldering smoke, the distinct smell of burning 7 00:00:22,223 --> 00:00:22,554 the distinct smell of burning human flesh. 8 00:00:22,556 --> 00:00:28,594 Human flesh. >> two cab drivers murdered 9 00:00:28,596 --> 00:00:29,228 >> two cab drivers murdered within 48 hours of each other. 10 00:00:29,230 --> 00:00:30,162 Within 48 hours of each other. >> both individuals had come 11 00:00:30,164 --> 00:00:31,363 >> both individuals had come here trying to live the 12 00:00:31,365 --> 00:00:32,564 here trying to live the american dream. You need to be 13 00:00:32,566 --> 00:00:33,332 american dream. You need to be careful. You don't know who 14 00:00:33,334 --> 00:00:34,033 careful. You don't know who you've got in your cab. 15 00:00:34,035 --> 00:00:35,768 You've got in your cab. >> his last words on this earth 16 00:00:35,770 --> 00:00:37,002 >> his last words on this earth is, "please. I have children. 17 00:00:37,004 --> 00:00:37,569 Is, "please. I have children. Don't do this." 18 00:00:37,571 --> 00:00:40,572 don't do this." >> I think the ultimate motive 19 00:00:40,574 --> 00:00:41,073 >> I think the ultimate motive was money, was thrill. 20 00:00:41,075 --> 00:00:44,143 Was money, was thrill. >> five unique perspectives. 21 00:00:44,145 --> 00:00:46,245 >> five unique perspectives. Five points of view. One 22 00:00:46,247 --> 00:00:46,678 five points of view. One murder. 23 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,915 Murder. >> I'm a homicide veteran. 24 00:00:49,917 --> 00:00:52,051 >> I'm a homicide veteran. >> I've been a reporter here in 25 00:00:52,053 --> 00:00:52,651 >> I've been a reporter here in the houston area. 26 00:00:52,653 --> 00:00:53,652 The houston area. >> I was one of the 27 00:00:53,654 --> 00:00:54,353 >> I was one of the investigators assigned. 28 00:00:54,355 --> 00:00:55,554 Investigators assigned. >> my name is chaz blackshear. 29 00:00:55,556 --> 00:00:56,655 >> my name is chaz blackshear. >> I was the lead prosecutor. 30 00:00:56,657 --> 00:00:59,058 >> I was the lead prosecutor. >> my name is brian harris. I'm 31 00:00:59,060 --> 00:01:07,733 >> my name is brian harris. I'm a 21-year retired homicide 32 00:01:07,735 --> 00:01:14,039 a 21-year retired homicide veteran for the houston police 33 00:01:14,041 --> 00:01:17,676 veteran for the houston police department. On October 14, 2010, 34 00:01:17,678 --> 00:01:18,577 department. On October 14, 2010, when I arrived at work at the 35 00:01:18,579 --> 00:01:20,245 when I arrived at work at the homicide headquarters downtown 36 00:01:20,247 --> 00:01:22,114 homicide headquarters downtown houston, I ran into two 37 00:01:22,116 --> 00:01:25,417 houston, I ran into two detectives. I knew they'd been 38 00:01:25,419 --> 00:01:27,319 detectives. I knew they'd been working nonstop on a taxicab 39 00:01:27,321 --> 00:01:28,987 working nonstop on a taxicab killing, a yellow cab murder 40 00:01:28,989 --> 00:01:31,023 killing, a yellow cab murder where the driver of that cab 41 00:01:31,025 --> 00:01:33,092 where the driver of that cab had been murdered and his body 42 00:01:33,094 --> 00:01:35,027 had been murdered and his body was dumped on the north side of 43 00:01:35,029 --> 00:01:37,663 was dumped on the north side of the city of houston. I quipped, 44 00:01:37,665 --> 00:01:39,832 the city of houston. I quipped, "glad it's you, not us. " 45 00:01:39,834 --> 00:01:42,434 "glad it's you, not us. " little did I know that within 46 00:01:42,436 --> 00:01:44,403 little did I know that within the hour, my partner and I 47 00:01:44,405 --> 00:01:46,271 the hour, my partner and I would be assigned the murder of 48 00:01:46,273 --> 00:01:48,240 would be assigned the murder of the second cab driver within 48 49 00:01:48,242 --> 00:01:50,509 the second cab driver within 48 hours. Right away, my partner 50 00:01:50,511 --> 00:01:55,681 hours. Right away, my partner and I are talking while we're 51 00:01:55,683 --> 00:01:58,717 and I are talking while we're driving out to the west side of 52 00:01:58,719 --> 00:02:00,018 driving out to the west side of houston that, could this be 53 00:02:00,020 --> 00:02:01,820 houston that, could this be connected? We didn't know at 54 00:02:01,822 --> 00:02:03,689 connected? We didn't know at the time, but, you know, our 55 00:02:03,691 --> 00:02:05,457 the time, but, you know, our spidey senses certainly were 56 00:02:05,459 --> 00:02:06,859 spidey senses certainly were tangling. We had a houston 57 00:02:06,861 --> 00:02:14,933 tangling. We had a houston officer, and he was simply 58 00:02:14,935 --> 00:02:16,735 officer, and he was simply making rounds, driving through 59 00:02:16,737 --> 00:02:18,103 making rounds, driving through the various different parking 60 00:02:18,105 --> 00:02:19,438 the various different parking lots in his beat and saw a 61 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,974 lots in his beat and saw a yellow cab. Quickly, he figured, 62 00:02:21,976 --> 00:02:24,543 yellow cab. Quickly, he figured, that's certainly out of place. 63 00:02:24,545 --> 00:02:26,178 That's certainly out of place. Why would a yellow cab be in 64 00:02:26,180 --> 00:02:27,346 why would a yellow cab be in the middle of a parking lot at 65 00:02:27,348 --> 00:02:28,780 the middle of a parking lot at 3:00 in the morning? As he got 66 00:02:28,782 --> 00:02:31,150 3:00 in the morning? As he got closer and he could see, the 67 00:02:31,152 --> 00:02:32,351 closer and he could see, the cab was smoldering, there was 68 00:02:32,353 --> 00:02:33,852 cab was smoldering, there was smoke coming from the cab. 69 00:02:33,854 --> 00:02:35,587 Smoke coming from the cab. There was also that distinct 70 00:02:35,589 --> 00:02:38,190 there was also that distinct smell, the distinct smell of 71 00:02:38,192 --> 00:02:40,459 smell, the distinct smell of burning human flesh. By the 72 00:02:40,461 --> 00:02:42,828 burning human flesh. By the time I get there with my 73 00:02:42,830 --> 00:02:50,502 time I get there with my partner, there's dozens and 74 00:02:50,504 --> 00:02:51,937 partner, there's dozens and dozens of people along the 75 00:02:51,939 --> 00:02:54,306 dozens of people along the perimeter of the crime scene. 76 00:02:54,308 --> 00:02:56,875 Perimeter of the crime scene. We don't know who are witnesses, 77 00:02:56,877 --> 00:02:58,577 we don't know who are witnesses, who are just casual onlookers. 78 00:02:58,579 --> 00:02:59,745 Who are just casual onlookers. In a chaotic scene, you've got 79 00:02:59,747 --> 00:03:02,748 in a chaotic scene, you've got to start breaking that scene 80 00:03:02,750 --> 00:03:03,982 to start breaking that scene down into larger parts, smaller 81 00:03:03,984 --> 00:03:06,151 down into larger parts, smaller parts. No matter how crazy it 82 00:03:06,153 --> 00:03:07,686 parts. No matter how crazy it looks, you can make a lot of 83 00:03:07,688 --> 00:03:09,855 looks, you can make a lot of sense out of that. The dead 84 00:03:09,857 --> 00:03:13,992 sense out of that. The dead themselves, in a way, speak to 85 00:03:13,994 --> 00:03:15,627 themselves, in a way, speak to us. Not literally, but the 86 00:03:15,629 --> 00:03:18,197 us. Not literally, but the position of their body, the way 87 00:03:18,199 --> 00:03:20,299 position of their body, the way their body is inside or laid 88 00:03:20,301 --> 00:03:22,000 their body is inside or laid out or presented in any 89 00:03:22,002 --> 00:03:24,403 out or presented in any different homicide scene can 90 00:03:24,405 --> 00:03:28,640 different homicide scene can tell us a lot. This case was no 91 00:03:28,642 --> 00:03:29,908 tell us a lot. This case was no different. It looked as though 92 00:03:29,910 --> 00:03:36,215 different. It looked as though there was a struggle. The 93 00:03:36,217 --> 00:03:38,550 there was a struggle. The person was trying to escape. It 94 00:03:38,552 --> 00:03:40,419 person was trying to escape. It looked as though they almost 95 00:03:40,421 --> 00:03:42,387 looked as though they almost did escape out that door and 96 00:03:42,389 --> 00:03:44,256 did escape out that door and they were shot and dragged back 97 00:03:44,258 --> 00:03:47,159 they were shot and dragged back into that vehicle. And then to 98 00:03:47,161 --> 00:03:49,595 into that vehicle. And then to add insult to injury, the car 99 00:03:49,597 --> 00:03:50,996 add insult to injury, the car is set on fire. But we weren't 100 00:03:50,998 --> 00:03:53,565 is set on fire. But we weren't dealing with exact rocket 101 00:03:53,567 --> 00:03:56,335 dealing with exact rocket scientists here because they 102 00:03:56,337 --> 00:03:58,604 scientists here because they didn't understand that fire 103 00:03:58,606 --> 00:04:01,206 didn't understand that fire needs oxygen to breathe. So 104 00:04:01,208 --> 00:04:02,407 needs oxygen to breathe. So when they set this car on fire, 105 00:04:02,409 --> 00:04:03,675 when they set this car on fire, other than the initial 106 00:04:03,677 --> 00:04:05,711 other than the initial explosion or burst of flame, 107 00:04:05,713 --> 00:04:07,446 explosion or burst of flame, the fire quickly dies because 108 00:04:07,448 --> 00:04:09,581 the fire quickly dies because there's no oxygen to feed on. 109 00:04:09,583 --> 00:04:13,685 There's no oxygen to feed on. They were sloppy. They left 110 00:04:13,687 --> 00:04:14,720 they were sloppy. They left evidence behind. They left the 111 00:04:14,722 --> 00:04:16,588 evidence behind. They left the shell casing. One on the 112 00:04:16,590 --> 00:04:18,724 shell casing. One on the outside of the car. One on the 113 00:04:18,726 --> 00:04:20,325 outside of the car. One on the inside of the car. This is all 114 00:04:20,327 --> 00:04:24,363 inside of the car. This is all great stuff that we can work 115 00:04:24,365 --> 00:04:26,765 great stuff that we can work with. So, how did he die? Was 116 00:04:26,767 --> 00:04:35,874 with. So, how did he die? Was it the fire or was it the 117 00:04:35,876 --> 00:04:39,378 it the fire or was it the gunshot? And there's an easy 118 00:04:39,380 --> 00:04:40,779 gunshot? And there's an easy way to tell. See, when an 119 00:04:40,781 --> 00:04:42,080 way to tell. See, when an autopsy is done, if there's 120 00:04:42,082 --> 00:04:43,548 autopsy is done, if there's soot on the inside of the lungs, 121 00:04:43,550 --> 00:04:45,083 soot on the inside of the lungs, if they're soot on those lungs, 122 00:04:45,085 --> 00:04:47,753 if they're soot on those lungs, that means they were alive when 123 00:04:47,755 --> 00:04:49,021 that means they were alive when the fire was started. I'm just 124 00:04:49,023 --> 00:04:51,256 the fire was started. I'm just very thankful, as gruesome as 125 00:04:51,258 --> 00:04:53,992 very thankful, as gruesome as this scene was, was that it was 126 00:04:53,994 --> 00:04:56,261 this scene was, was that it was clear after the autopsy that he 127 00:04:56,263 --> 00:04:59,131 clear after the autopsy that he died of the gunshots, not of 128 00:04:59,133 --> 00:05:01,166 died of the gunshots, not of the fire, because there was not 129 00:05:01,168 --> 00:05:05,804 the fire, because there was not any soot in the lungs. Now 130 00:05:05,806 --> 00:05:20,419 any soot in the lungs. Now we're able to attach a name. 131 00:05:20,421 --> 00:05:22,954 We're able to attach a name. This is somebody that had a 132 00:05:22,956 --> 00:05:24,589 this is somebody that had a family. This is somebody who 133 00:05:24,591 --> 00:05:25,657 family. This is somebody who had people who loved him, 134 00:05:25,659 --> 00:05:26,992 had people who loved him, somebody that he was trying to 135 00:05:26,994 --> 00:05:28,794 somebody that he was trying to provide for working a second 136 00:05:28,796 --> 00:05:31,496 provide for working a second job, bringing in extra income 137 00:05:31,498 --> 00:05:33,498 job, bringing in extra income so he can just make it. Blaise 138 00:05:33,500 --> 00:05:36,601 so he can just make it. Blaise was no different than myself. 139 00:05:36,603 --> 00:05:38,036 Was no different than myself. We all have three things in 140 00:05:38,038 --> 00:05:39,771 we all have three things in common -- we all want to be 141 00:05:39,773 --> 00:05:41,039 common -- we all want to be loved, we all want to be 142 00:05:41,041 --> 00:05:42,541 loved, we all want to be respected, and we all want the 143 00:05:42,543 --> 00:05:44,843 respected, and we all want the ability to provide for the ones 144 00:05:44,845 --> 00:05:47,412 ability to provide for the ones that love and respect us. They 145 00:05:47,414 --> 00:05:50,148 that love and respect us. They wanted that american dream, and 146 00:05:50,150 --> 00:05:51,650 wanted that american dream, and that's exactly who he was. He 147 00:05:51,652 --> 00:05:53,218 that's exactly who he was. He was trying to provide for his 148 00:05:53,220 --> 00:05:54,953 was trying to provide for his family. On this particular 149 00:05:54,955 --> 00:05:59,991 family. On this particular scene, the cab is in the 150 00:05:59,993 --> 00:06:01,460 scene, the cab is in the parking lot. Looking up at the 151 00:06:01,462 --> 00:06:03,962 parking lot. Looking up at the office complex, it is clear 152 00:06:03,964 --> 00:06:06,264 office complex, it is clear that there are video cameras. 153 00:06:06,266 --> 00:06:07,899 That there are video cameras. So one of the first things that 154 00:06:07,901 --> 00:06:11,136 so one of the first things that we do is look at these videos. 155 00:06:11,138 --> 00:06:18,043 We do is look at these videos. Partner and I, we walk in and 156 00:06:18,045 --> 00:06:19,878 partner and I, we walk in and we go to the security office. 157 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,113 We go to the security office. We don't know what we're 158 00:06:21,115 --> 00:06:22,347 we don't know what we're getting ready to see. And as 159 00:06:22,349 --> 00:06:23,648 getting ready to see. And as that videotape starts, we see 160 00:06:23,650 --> 00:06:26,184 that videotape starts, we see the yellow cab pull up and we 161 00:06:26,186 --> 00:06:27,619 the yellow cab pull up and we see clearly a black female with 162 00:06:27,621 --> 00:06:29,921 see clearly a black female with this wild afro, crazy kind of 163 00:06:29,923 --> 00:06:32,691 this wild afro, crazy kind of hair. And she gets out and she 164 00:06:32,693 --> 00:06:34,826 hair. And she gets out and she starts to run to the front of 165 00:06:34,828 --> 00:06:36,061 starts to run to the front of the cab area. She keeps going, 166 00:06:36,063 --> 00:06:39,765 the cab area. She keeps going, has a lookout. Is anyone around? 167 00:06:39,767 --> 00:06:42,467 Has a lookout. Is anyone around? And there's one particular 168 00:06:42,469 --> 00:06:44,169 and there's one particular moment, she stops and is caught 169 00:06:44,171 --> 00:06:45,837 moment, she stops and is caught in mid-stride, staring directly 170 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,005 in mid-stride, staring directly into the camera. It was the 171 00:06:47,007 --> 00:06:50,475 into the camera. It was the perfect shot. We just knew then 172 00:06:50,477 --> 00:06:51,743 perfect shot. We just knew then we had to freeze that frame and 173 00:06:51,745 --> 00:06:54,746 we had to freeze that frame and that would be the picture that 174 00:06:54,748 --> 00:06:56,481 that would be the picture that we would use. But the video 175 00:06:56,483 --> 00:07:00,585 we would use. But the video keeps going. She comes back to 176 00:07:00,587 --> 00:07:02,254 keeps going. She comes back to the cab and then there's a 177 00:07:02,256 --> 00:07:04,256 the cab and then there's a flash. There's a flash inside 178 00:07:04,258 --> 00:07:06,992 flash. There's a flash inside the cab. You see that same 179 00:07:06,994 --> 00:07:08,393 the cab. You see that same black female. She runs across 180 00:07:08,395 --> 00:07:09,694 black female. She runs across the parking lot, and then a 181 00:07:09,696 --> 00:07:11,229 the parking lot, and then a lanky, thin male, baggy t-shirt, 182 00:07:11,231 --> 00:07:13,432 lanky, thin male, baggy t-shirt, pants on, runs past the camera, 183 00:07:13,434 --> 00:07:15,333 pants on, runs past the camera, as well. Where are they running? 184 00:07:15,335 --> 00:07:21,540 As well. Where are they running? You had absolute fear and 185 00:07:21,542 --> 00:07:36,121 you had absolute fear and terror running through the 186 00:07:36,123 --> 00:07:37,589 terror running through the transportation industry. One 187 00:07:37,591 --> 00:07:40,058 transportation industry. One incident, two incidences. It 188 00:07:40,060 --> 00:07:41,293 incident, two incidences. It will be a third. Will there be 189 00:07:41,295 --> 00:07:43,361 will be a third. Will there be a fourth? We needed to get this 190 00:07:43,363 --> 00:07:45,464 a fourth? We needed to get this stopped. Throw in the fact that 191 00:07:45,466 --> 00:07:47,165 stopped. Throw in the fact that now there's a male there, is 192 00:07:47,167 --> 00:07:50,469 now there's a male there, is this their version of trying to 193 00:07:50,471 --> 00:07:51,102 this their version of trying to be bonnie and clyde? 194 00:07:51,104 --> 00:07:54,573 Be bonnie and clyde? >> hi, I'm sara davenport, and 195 00:08:00,346 --> 00:08:02,481 >> hi, I'm sara davenport, and I've been a reporter here in 196 00:08:02,483 --> 00:08:03,582 I've been a reporter here in the houston area for over a 197 00:08:03,584 --> 00:08:04,783 the houston area for over a decade. When the news broke 198 00:08:04,785 --> 00:08:05,917 decade. When the news broke that there had been a murder, 199 00:08:05,919 --> 00:08:06,852 that there had been a murder, it wasn't that uncommon. It's a 200 00:08:06,854 --> 00:08:08,520 it wasn't that uncommon. It's a big city, 6 million people. But 201 00:08:08,522 --> 00:08:10,455 big city, 6 million people. But what was uncommon was a small 202 00:08:10,457 --> 00:08:12,757 what was uncommon was a small twist. Two cabdrivers murdered 203 00:08:12,759 --> 00:08:16,094 twist. Two cabdrivers murdered within 48 hours of each other. 204 00:08:16,096 --> 00:08:19,764 Within 48 hours of each other. October 12th, early morning in 205 00:08:19,766 --> 00:08:21,666 October 12th, early morning in 2010, a utility worker was out, 206 00:08:21,668 --> 00:08:33,411 2010, a utility worker was out, and he spotted something 207 00:08:33,413 --> 00:08:35,247 and he spotted something strange in a drainage ditch. 208 00:08:35,249 --> 00:08:39,451 Strange in a drainage ditch. When he went to look, it was a 209 00:08:39,453 --> 00:08:42,053 when he went to look, it was a very gruesome discovery. It was 210 00:08:42,055 --> 00:08:43,288 very gruesome discovery. It was a body. You can imagine how 211 00:08:43,290 --> 00:08:44,389 a body. You can imagine how terrifying that is. I mean, 212 00:08:44,391 --> 00:08:45,857 terrifying that is. I mean, normally, early morning hours, 213 00:08:45,859 --> 00:08:47,759 normally, early morning hours, it's pretty quiet. And here 214 00:08:47,761 --> 00:08:52,264 it's pretty quiet. And here this body is covered in dirt, 215 00:08:52,266 --> 00:08:55,166 this body is covered in dirt, shot up, possibly stabbed. You 216 00:08:55,168 --> 00:08:56,935 shot up, possibly stabbed. You could tell it was a very 217 00:08:56,937 --> 00:08:58,270 could tell it was a very disturbing scene by the way 218 00:08:58,272 --> 00:08:59,371 disturbing scene by the way when the utility worker called 219 00:08:59,373 --> 00:09:00,372 when the utility worker called 9-1-1, he was terrified. When 220 00:09:00,374 --> 00:09:02,541 9-1-1, he was terrified. When the police first arrived on the 221 00:09:02,543 --> 00:09:06,177 the police first arrived on the scene, they're trying to 222 00:09:06,179 --> 00:09:08,413 scene, they're trying to identify who this is. And they 223 00:09:08,415 --> 00:09:10,348 identify who this is. And they didn't find anything on his 224 00:09:10,350 --> 00:09:12,050 didn't find anything on his body. I mean, it looked like 225 00:09:12,052 --> 00:09:13,451 body. I mean, it looked like he'd been robbed. There's was 226 00:09:13,453 --> 00:09:14,519 he'd been robbed. There's was nothing in his pockets. But 227 00:09:14,521 --> 00:09:17,155 nothing in his pockets. But when they started searching 228 00:09:17,157 --> 00:09:18,223 when they started searching just a little bit away, they 229 00:09:18,225 --> 00:09:19,658 just a little bit away, they were able to find his passport 230 00:09:19,660 --> 00:09:21,493 were able to find his passport and also his cellphone. That 231 00:09:21,495 --> 00:09:24,062 and also his cellphone. That was a pretty significant break 232 00:09:24,064 --> 00:09:26,565 was a pretty significant break for two reasons. One is it 233 00:09:26,567 --> 00:09:27,499 for two reasons. One is it looks like the body was dumped. 234 00:09:27,501 --> 00:09:29,834 Looks like the body was dumped. The murder probably didn't 235 00:09:29,836 --> 00:09:30,702 the murder probably didn't happen there since the 236 00:09:30,704 --> 00:09:32,037 happen there since the cellphone and passport were in 237 00:09:32,039 --> 00:09:33,338 cellphone and passport were in a different area, but it was a 238 00:09:33,340 --> 00:09:36,141 a different area, but it was a huge break because now they 239 00:09:36,143 --> 00:09:37,909 huge break because now they knew who this body was, through 240 00:09:37,911 --> 00:09:40,779 knew who this body was, through the passport and now they had 241 00:09:40,781 --> 00:09:42,080 the passport and now they had his cellphone and could figure 242 00:09:42,082 --> 00:09:43,648 his cellphone and could figure out more about him. They were 243 00:09:43,650 --> 00:09:45,483 out more about him. They were able to identify the victim as 244 00:09:45,485 --> 00:09:49,020 able to identify the victim as 32-year-old mohammad el sayed. 245 00:09:49,022 --> 00:09:52,190 32-year-old mohammad el sayed. Mohammad had been in the 246 00:09:52,192 --> 00:09:53,992 mohammad had been in the houston area for a few years. 247 00:09:53,994 --> 00:09:55,727 Houston area for a few years. He was a family man, had 248 00:09:55,729 --> 00:09:56,928 he was a family man, had several children. He was a cab 249 00:09:56,930 --> 00:09:58,163 several children. He was a cab driver, and he had been working 250 00:09:58,165 --> 00:10:00,665 driver, and he had been working to pick up some extra shifts to 251 00:10:00,667 --> 00:10:02,634 to pick up some extra shifts to make some more money to help 252 00:10:02,636 --> 00:10:04,603 make some more money to help out at home. He was working 253 00:10:04,605 --> 00:10:06,137 out at home. He was working really hard to make ends meet 254 00:10:06,139 --> 00:10:08,139 really hard to make ends meet for his family. They were new 255 00:10:08,141 --> 00:10:10,041 for his family. They were new immigrants to the houston area, 256 00:10:10,043 --> 00:10:12,544 immigrants to the houston area, to the united states. And so 257 00:10:12,546 --> 00:10:13,812 to the united states. And so being a cab driver was a good, 258 00:10:13,814 --> 00:10:14,913 being a cab driver was a good, honest job for him to do. Being 259 00:10:14,915 --> 00:10:18,984 honest job for him to do. Being a cab driver might be somewhat 260 00:10:18,986 --> 00:10:20,885 a cab driver might be somewhat of an easy job from the outside, 261 00:10:20,887 --> 00:10:21,987 of an easy job from the outside, but it's a risky job. You never 262 00:10:21,989 --> 00:10:23,021 but it's a risky job. You never know who you're picking up, 263 00:10:23,023 --> 00:10:24,055 know who you're picking up, what the next fare is going to 264 00:10:24,057 --> 00:10:27,058 what the next fare is going to be. When police went to the cab 265 00:10:27,060 --> 00:10:31,129 be. When police went to the cab company, they ran the number 266 00:10:31,131 --> 00:10:35,166 company, they ran the number from where the last call had 267 00:10:35,168 --> 00:10:37,369 from where the last call had come in from mohammad el 268 00:10:37,371 --> 00:10:41,506 come in from mohammad el sayed's cab. It had come in 269 00:10:41,508 --> 00:10:43,241 sayed's cab. It had come in from a gas station, a chevron, 270 00:10:43,243 --> 00:10:44,643 from a gas station, a chevron, around 2:00 in the morning. 271 00:10:44,645 --> 00:10:47,412 Around 2:00 in the morning. >> thank you for calling yellow 272 00:10:47,414 --> 00:10:48,046 >> thank you for calling yellow cab. This is cheryl. How may I 273 00:10:48,048 --> 00:10:48,513 cab. This is cheryl. How may I help you? 274 00:10:48,515 --> 00:10:50,048 Help you? >> yes, I need a cab over here 275 00:10:50,050 --> 00:10:51,116 >> yes, I need a cab over here on 1900 dairy ashford at the 276 00:10:51,118 --> 00:10:51,916 on 1900 dairy ashford at the chevron. A cab just drove by. 277 00:10:51,918 --> 00:10:55,820 Chevron. A cab just drove by. >> 1900 south dairy ashford? 278 00:10:55,822 --> 00:10:58,456 >> 1900 south dairy ashford? >> yeah. 279 00:10:58,458 --> 00:11:00,625 >> yeah. >> and that's the chevron 280 00:11:00,627 --> 00:11:01,292 >> and that's the chevron service station, sir? 281 00:11:01,294 --> 00:11:04,929 Service station, sir? >> yeah. The chevron service 282 00:11:04,931 --> 00:11:05,997 >> yeah. The chevron service station. One just passed by. I 283 00:11:05,999 --> 00:11:06,765 station. One just passed by. I don't know if he works for 284 00:11:06,767 --> 00:11:07,198 don't know if he works for y'all. 285 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:08,299 Y'all. >> okay, we'll get someone out 286 00:11:08,301 --> 00:11:08,933 >> okay, we'll get someone out there for you, sir. 287 00:11:08,935 --> 00:11:09,801 There for you, sir. >> alright, thank you so much. 288 00:11:09,803 --> 00:11:14,439 >> alright, thank you so much. >> when police got to the 289 00:11:14,441 --> 00:11:16,508 >> when police got to the chevron station, they thought 290 00:11:16,510 --> 00:11:17,409 chevron station, they thought maybe this could be their first 291 00:11:17,411 --> 00:11:19,110 maybe this could be their first lead, but it really wasn't 292 00:11:19,112 --> 00:11:20,412 lead, but it really wasn't because the security cameras, 293 00:11:20,414 --> 00:11:22,447 because the security cameras, they weren't working that night 294 00:11:22,449 --> 00:11:24,883 they weren't working that night and the phone had been totally 295 00:11:24,885 --> 00:11:26,518 and the phone had been totally wiped clean of fingerprints. 296 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,854 Wiped clean of fingerprints. The suspects were really lucky 297 00:11:29,856 --> 00:11:30,989 the suspects were really lucky on this one because the police 298 00:11:30,991 --> 00:11:32,023 on this one because the police were hot on their tail until 299 00:11:32,025 --> 00:11:35,627 were hot on their tail until they weren't. Suddenly, it went 300 00:11:35,629 --> 00:11:37,395 they weren't. Suddenly, it went cold. There were no 301 00:11:37,397 --> 00:11:38,997 cold. There were no fingerprints. There's no 302 00:11:38,999 --> 00:11:40,965 fingerprints. There's no security cameras. The police 303 00:11:40,967 --> 00:11:42,534 security cameras. The police didn't have any sign of the cab 304 00:11:42,536 --> 00:11:44,569 didn't have any sign of the cab near where mohammad el sayed's 305 00:11:44,571 --> 00:11:45,837 near where mohammad el sayed's body was found, so they went 306 00:11:45,839 --> 00:11:47,605 body was found, so they went back to the chevron and started 307 00:11:47,607 --> 00:11:49,774 back to the chevron and started looking in that vicinity. And 308 00:11:49,776 --> 00:11:52,377 looking in that vicinity. And it was paydirt. The cab was 309 00:11:52,379 --> 00:11:54,279 it was paydirt. The cab was found about three or four 310 00:11:54,281 --> 00:11:55,547 found about three or four blocks away from where the call 311 00:11:55,549 --> 00:11:56,848 blocks away from where the call was originally made, right 312 00:11:56,850 --> 00:11:58,049 was originally made, right behind a strip mall. It had 313 00:11:58,051 --> 00:11:59,017 behind a strip mall. It had been wiped clean. There were no 314 00:11:59,019 --> 00:12:00,752 been wiped clean. There were no fingerprints, but they did find 315 00:12:00,754 --> 00:12:02,153 fingerprints, but they did find some small traces of blood. And 316 00:12:02,155 --> 00:12:03,254 some small traces of blood. And then they did find two .380 317 00:12:03,256 --> 00:12:06,024 then they did find two .380 caliber bullet shells. Where 318 00:12:06,026 --> 00:12:07,926 caliber bullet shells. Where those bullet casings were found 319 00:12:07,928 --> 00:12:11,329 those bullet casings were found suggests that the driver, 320 00:12:11,331 --> 00:12:13,531 suggests that the driver, mohammad el sayed, had been 321 00:12:13,533 --> 00:12:16,101 mohammad el sayed, had been sitting in his cab when he was 322 00:12:16,103 --> 00:12:17,635 sitting in his cab when he was shot. Police had the cab and 323 00:12:17,637 --> 00:12:19,904 shot. Police had the cab and they had the victim, but they 324 00:12:19,906 --> 00:12:22,474 they had the victim, but they really didn't have any leads. 325 00:12:22,476 --> 00:12:24,242 Really didn't have any leads. The call was made about 35 to 326 00:12:24,244 --> 00:12:26,811 the call was made about 35 to 40 minutes away from where the 327 00:12:26,813 --> 00:12:30,515 40 minutes away from where the body was found. So what does 328 00:12:30,517 --> 00:12:31,316 body was found. So what does that mean for these suspects? 329 00:12:31,318 --> 00:12:32,484 That mean for these suspects? If they're willing to drive 330 00:12:32,486 --> 00:12:34,352 if they're willing to drive that far to dump the body, 331 00:12:34,354 --> 00:12:35,820 that far to dump the body, where are they now? They could 332 00:12:35,822 --> 00:12:37,689 where are they now? They could be in dallas. They could be out 333 00:12:37,691 --> 00:12:39,090 be in dallas. They could be out of the state of texas. People 334 00:12:39,092 --> 00:12:41,459 of the state of texas. People started wondering, is there a 335 00:12:41,461 --> 00:12:45,663 started wondering, is there a serial killer on the loose? 336 00:12:45,665 --> 00:12:48,066 Serial killer on the loose? What's going to happen the next 337 00:12:48,068 --> 00:12:49,100 what's going to happen the next day after that? The tension in 338 00:12:49,102 --> 00:12:51,202 day after that? The tension in the city with these reports 339 00:12:51,204 --> 00:12:53,304 the city with these reports coming out, it was very real. 340 00:12:53,306 --> 00:12:56,141 Coming out, it was very real. Mohammad and blaise were both 341 00:12:56,143 --> 00:13:02,313 mohammad and blaise were both muslim cab drivers. Did that 342 00:13:02,315 --> 00:13:04,082 muslim cab drivers. Did that have anything to do with these 343 00:13:04,084 --> 00:13:04,582 have anything to do with these murderers? 344 00:13:04,584 --> 00:13:06,684 Murderers? 345 00:13:13,359 --> 00:13:14,926 >> my name is roger chappell, and I was an investigator with 346 00:13:14,928 --> 00:13:16,094 and I was an investigator with the houston police department 347 00:13:16,096 --> 00:13:17,095 the houston police department assigned to work this case. Cab 348 00:13:17,097 --> 00:13:21,499 assigned to work this case. Cab drivers are hardworking people. 349 00:13:21,501 --> 00:13:23,535 Drivers are hardworking people. It is not your 350 00:13:23,537 --> 00:13:25,370 it is not your gangster-on-gangster or your 351 00:13:25,372 --> 00:13:26,905 gangster-on-gangster or your dope dealer-on-dope dealer kind 352 00:13:26,907 --> 00:13:32,277 dope dealer-on-dope dealer kind of stuff. These are innocent 353 00:13:32,279 --> 00:13:36,114 of stuff. These are innocent people doing hard work. 354 00:13:36,116 --> 00:13:37,916 People doing hard work. Something like this, where we 355 00:13:37,918 --> 00:13:42,053 something like this, where we have at least two cab drivers 356 00:13:42,055 --> 00:13:42,921 have at least two cab drivers that were killed in such a 357 00:13:42,923 --> 00:13:43,955 that were killed in such a short period of time, so at 358 00:13:43,957 --> 00:13:45,256 short period of time, so at that point, the urgency really 359 00:13:45,258 --> 00:13:46,357 that point, the urgency really did kick in. This was 360 00:13:46,359 --> 00:13:47,325 did kick in. This was definitely going to happen 361 00:13:47,327 --> 00:13:48,259 definitely going to happen again. To me, it's not a matter 362 00:13:48,261 --> 00:13:49,027 again. To me, it's not a matter of if, it's when. I made a 363 00:13:49,029 --> 00:13:51,930 of if, it's when. I made a phone call to yellow cab and 364 00:13:51,932 --> 00:13:58,303 phone call to yellow cab and was able to obtain the 365 00:13:58,305 --> 00:13:59,904 was able to obtain the recording for the second case. 366 00:13:59,906 --> 00:14:02,774 Recording for the second case. The deceased had picked up a 367 00:14:02,776 --> 00:14:04,809 the deceased had picked up a fare somewhere on the west side 368 00:14:04,811 --> 00:14:07,812 fare somewhere on the west side of town, and it was a female 369 00:14:07,814 --> 00:14:10,381 of town, and it was a female that had made that phone call. 370 00:14:10,383 --> 00:14:14,552 That had made that phone call. A name that I heard, as I 371 00:14:14,554 --> 00:14:17,989 a name that I heard, as I remember, was shauntay, because 372 00:14:17,991 --> 00:14:20,258 remember, was shauntay, because it was a little difficult to 373 00:14:20,260 --> 00:14:21,059 it was a little difficult to understand on that recording. 374 00:14:21,061 --> 00:14:22,060 Understand on that recording. >> yellow cab. Can I help you? 375 00:14:22,062 --> 00:14:22,927 >> yellow cab. Can I help you? >> hello, um, can I have a cab 376 00:14:22,929 --> 00:14:24,128 >> hello, um, can I have a cab to, um, 1905, um, dairy ashford? 377 00:14:24,130 --> 00:14:26,331 To, um, 1905, um, dairy ashford? It's gonna be by a cricket 378 00:14:26,333 --> 00:14:26,564 it's gonna be by a cricket store. 379 00:14:26,566 --> 00:14:30,501 Store. >> kroger store? 380 00:14:30,503 --> 00:14:31,269 >> kroger store? >> cricket. 381 00:14:31,271 --> 00:14:34,505 >> cricket. >> alright, can I get a name? 382 00:14:34,507 --> 00:14:35,940 >> alright, can I get a name? >> um, shauntay. 383 00:14:35,942 --> 00:14:40,178 >> um, shauntay. >> my immediate thought was 384 00:14:40,180 --> 00:14:42,413 >> my immediate thought was that's a fake name. I don't 385 00:14:42,415 --> 00:14:45,250 that's a fake name. I don't know if it's just a version of 386 00:14:45,252 --> 00:14:47,385 know if it's just a version of her name or if she just made it 387 00:14:47,387 --> 00:14:48,286 her name or if she just made it up, but that's one of the 388 00:14:48,288 --> 00:14:49,254 up, but that's one of the things, too, that we 389 00:14:49,256 --> 00:14:50,288 things, too, that we disseminate to the other 390 00:14:50,290 --> 00:14:51,723 disseminate to the other investigators. In most murder 391 00:14:51,725 --> 00:14:54,025 investigators. In most murder cases that I have investigated, 392 00:14:54,027 --> 00:14:55,526 cases that I have investigated, this is the first one where we 393 00:14:55,528 --> 00:14:58,096 this is the first one where we actually had the murderer 394 00:14:58,098 --> 00:15:00,965 actually had the murderer captured on video. It truly 395 00:15:00,967 --> 00:15:02,433 captured on video. It truly does open up the book for us. 396 00:15:02,435 --> 00:15:03,968 Does open up the book for us. As these folks were leaving and 397 00:15:03,970 --> 00:15:07,639 as these folks were leaving and running away, what direction 398 00:15:07,641 --> 00:15:08,840 running away, what direction where they headed? So that's 399 00:15:08,842 --> 00:15:10,208 where they headed? So that's where we're going to start our 400 00:15:10,210 --> 00:15:11,209 where we're going to start our canvas. We decided to go ahead 401 00:15:11,211 --> 00:15:16,214 canvas. We decided to go ahead and concentrate on the 402 00:15:16,216 --> 00:15:17,248 and concentrate on the apartment complexes as first. 403 00:15:17,250 --> 00:15:18,049 Apartment complexes as first. When the officers were out 404 00:15:18,051 --> 00:15:19,183 when the officers were out there, this manager is like, 405 00:15:19,185 --> 00:15:21,052 there, this manager is like, "you know what? I could be 406 00:15:21,054 --> 00:15:23,354 "you know what? I could be wrong, but this is a 407 00:15:23,356 --> 00:15:27,158 wrong, but this is a coincidence, to me, that I just 408 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,894 coincidence, to me, that I just can't seem to get over. I had 409 00:15:29,896 --> 00:15:31,362 can't seem to get over. I had this tenant who was behind in 410 00:15:31,364 --> 00:15:35,033 this tenant who was behind in her rent. She was due to be 411 00:15:35,035 --> 00:15:35,833 her rent. She was due to be evicted. Then all of a sudden, 412 00:15:35,835 --> 00:15:41,005 evicted. Then all of a sudden, she comes in this morning and 413 00:15:41,007 --> 00:15:42,373 she comes in this morning and pays off everything." the 414 00:15:42,375 --> 00:15:43,441 pays off everything." the public already knew that we had 415 00:15:43,443 --> 00:15:44,609 public already knew that we had two cab drivers. The media had 416 00:15:44,611 --> 00:15:45,576 two cab drivers. The media had already reported that. For this 417 00:15:45,578 --> 00:15:46,411 already reported that. For this manager, based on what glimpse 418 00:15:46,413 --> 00:15:47,812 manager, based on what glimpse he got from the surveillance 419 00:15:47,814 --> 00:15:49,514 he got from the surveillance video photograph, was able to 420 00:15:49,516 --> 00:15:50,515 video photograph, was able to draw those parallels very 421 00:15:50,517 --> 00:15:51,883 draw those parallels very quickly. They gave her name as 422 00:15:51,885 --> 00:15:52,917 quickly. They gave her name as crystal jones, and the physical 423 00:15:52,919 --> 00:15:54,218 crystal jones, and the physical description seemed to match. 424 00:15:54,220 --> 00:15:55,486 Description seemed to match. What we want to do is to get 425 00:15:55,488 --> 00:15:58,089 what we want to do is to get her before she gets inside her 426 00:15:58,091 --> 00:16:01,426 her before she gets inside her apartment. And there's a reason 427 00:16:01,428 --> 00:16:02,560 apartment. And there's a reason for that. It creates too much 428 00:16:02,562 --> 00:16:04,429 for that. It creates too much hazard for the officers and for 429 00:16:04,431 --> 00:16:06,397 hazard for the officers and for other citizens. Crystal shows 430 00:16:06,399 --> 00:16:07,732 other citizens. Crystal shows up, and once everything 431 00:16:07,734 --> 00:16:09,067 up, and once everything everything got explained to her 432 00:16:09,069 --> 00:16:10,134 everything got explained to her about how we wound up there, 433 00:16:10,136 --> 00:16:14,305 about how we wound up there, she agreed, "yeah. You know 434 00:16:14,307 --> 00:16:18,676 she agreed, "yeah. You know what? Let me run down, explain 435 00:16:18,678 --> 00:16:20,712 what? Let me run down, explain all this to you. I don't have a 436 00:16:20,714 --> 00:16:22,380 all this to you. I don't have a problem doing that." just that 437 00:16:22,382 --> 00:16:23,848 problem doing that." just that cooperation right from the 438 00:16:23,850 --> 00:16:27,018 cooperation right from the beginning sent a very clear 439 00:16:27,020 --> 00:16:32,056 beginning sent a very clear message to us. So when she 440 00:16:32,058 --> 00:16:33,191 message to us. So when she comes into homicide, sergeant 441 00:16:33,193 --> 00:16:35,093 comes into homicide, sergeant harris talked to her. He felt 442 00:16:35,095 --> 00:16:36,227 harris talked to her. He felt very quickly that she wasn't 443 00:16:36,229 --> 00:16:37,562 very quickly that she wasn't involved in this. Brian was 444 00:16:37,564 --> 00:16:40,298 involved in this. Brian was like, "her voice is just too 445 00:16:40,300 --> 00:16:41,699 like, "her voice is just too raspy. It just doesn't quite 446 00:16:41,701 --> 00:16:43,067 raspy. It just doesn't quite match up." when brian asked her 447 00:16:43,069 --> 00:16:45,236 match up." when brian asked her about, you know, how she came 448 00:16:45,238 --> 00:16:46,604 about, you know, how she came into all of this money and was 449 00:16:46,606 --> 00:16:48,139 into all of this money and was able to pay off all of her debt 450 00:16:48,141 --> 00:16:49,640 able to pay off all of her debt all of a sudden, she said, "oh, 451 00:16:49,642 --> 00:16:50,942 all of a sudden, she said, "oh, well, I sold my car." and he 452 00:16:50,944 --> 00:16:53,077 well, I sold my car." and he said, "what do you mean? " and 453 00:16:53,079 --> 00:16:54,379 said, "what do you mean? " and she was able to produce the 454 00:16:54,381 --> 00:16:55,380 she was able to produce the documentation, the bill of sale 455 00:16:55,382 --> 00:16:56,781 documentation, the bill of sale and everything. We can tell 456 00:16:56,783 --> 00:16:57,815 and everything. We can tell when someone's lying to us most 457 00:16:57,817 --> 00:16:59,917 when someone's lying to us most of the time, very quickly. We 458 00:16:59,919 --> 00:17:01,586 of the time, very quickly. We can also tell when they're 459 00:17:01,588 --> 00:17:04,589 can also tell when they're being very truthful. Brian just 460 00:17:04,591 --> 00:17:06,357 being very truthful. Brian just felt right away, this isn't our 461 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,326 felt right away, this isn't our girl, period. Once crystal 462 00:17:08,328 --> 00:17:11,429 girl, period. Once crystal jones is eliminated as a 463 00:17:11,431 --> 00:17:12,663 jones is eliminated as a suspect, it's very late at 464 00:17:12,665 --> 00:17:14,232 suspect, it's very late at night. Everybody's worn out. 465 00:17:14,234 --> 00:17:16,334 Night. Everybody's worn out. There's really not much more we 466 00:17:16,336 --> 00:17:18,169 there's really not much more we can do at the moment. All of 467 00:17:18,171 --> 00:17:19,437 can do at the moment. All of our physical evidence is tied 468 00:17:19,439 --> 00:17:20,571 our physical evidence is tied up at the crime labs. We come 469 00:17:20,573 --> 00:17:22,774 up at the crime labs. We come back in the next morning, and 470 00:17:22,776 --> 00:17:25,343 back in the next morning, and we get a phone call from our 471 00:17:25,345 --> 00:17:27,979 we get a phone call from our firearms lab. Typically, from a 472 00:17:27,981 --> 00:17:29,614 firearms lab. Typically, from a firearms report, we may get 473 00:17:29,616 --> 00:17:31,616 firearms report, we may get between eight to fifteen 474 00:17:31,618 --> 00:17:33,684 between eight to fifteen firearms that these shell 475 00:17:33,686 --> 00:17:35,820 firearms that these shell casings could have come from. 476 00:17:35,822 --> 00:17:36,954 Casings could have come from. But kim downs came downstairs, 477 00:17:36,956 --> 00:17:39,490 but kim downs came downstairs, and for the first time since 478 00:17:39,492 --> 00:17:40,992 and for the first time since I've known her, she's ecstatic. 479 00:17:40,994 --> 00:17:42,493 I've known her, she's ecstatic. There is, I don't know, four or 480 00:17:42,495 --> 00:17:43,327 there is, I don't know, four or five of us standing around. She 481 00:17:43,329 --> 00:17:45,530 five of us standing around. She says, "you're looking for a 482 00:17:45,532 --> 00:17:47,331 says, "you're looking for a cobra 380. She even shows us a 483 00:17:47,333 --> 00:17:48,399 cobra 380. She even shows us a picture of it. She says, "I'm 484 00:17:48,401 --> 00:17:49,901 picture of it. She says, "I'm not saying it's this number of 485 00:17:49,903 --> 00:17:51,069 not saying it's this number of firearms. This is the gun 486 00:17:51,071 --> 00:17:55,406 firearms. This is the gun you're looking for. That was a 487 00:17:55,408 --> 00:18:00,611 you're looking for. That was a game-changer. Our crime analyst 488 00:18:00,613 --> 00:18:05,083 game-changer. Our crime analyst starts doing the research on 489 00:18:05,085 --> 00:18:06,084 starts doing the research on stolen firearms. Well, there 490 00:18:06,086 --> 00:18:08,286 stolen firearms. Well, there were two reports that were 491 00:18:08,288 --> 00:18:12,490 were two reports that were located, and one of them 492 00:18:12,492 --> 00:18:13,357 located, and one of them mentions two suspects by name. 493 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:14,592 Mentions two suspects by name. Turns out, this gentleman had 494 00:18:14,594 --> 00:18:16,627 turns out, this gentleman had allowed these two folks to stay 495 00:18:16,629 --> 00:18:17,428 allowed these two folks to stay with him, and they stole a 496 00:18:17,430 --> 00:18:19,597 with him, and they stole a pistol from him. He names them 497 00:18:19,599 --> 00:18:20,898 pistol from him. He names them as chaz blackshear and danielle 498 00:18:20,900 --> 00:18:23,701 as chaz blackshear and danielle hudson. Immediately, we started 499 00:18:23,703 --> 00:18:27,038 hudson. Immediately, we started doing the research on those two 500 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:28,172 doing the research on those two folks, and we noticed that he 501 00:18:28,174 --> 00:18:30,875 folks, and we noticed that he has an arrest, a prior arrest. 502 00:18:30,877 --> 00:18:33,511 Has an arrest, a prior arrest. So every arrested that occurs 503 00:18:33,513 --> 00:18:36,747 so every arrested that occurs in houston, the arrestee is 504 00:18:36,749 --> 00:18:37,849 in houston, the arrestee is assigned an hpd number. And lo 505 00:18:37,851 --> 00:18:38,883 assigned an hpd number. And lo and behold, if we don't find 506 00:18:38,885 --> 00:18:40,785 and behold, if we don't find pictures of them. They resemble 507 00:18:40,787 --> 00:18:43,087 pictures of them. They resemble what we see in the video, 508 00:18:43,089 --> 00:18:44,789 what we see in the video, especially with danielle. Phil 509 00:18:44,791 --> 00:18:48,593 especially with danielle. Phil calls somebody in our 510 00:18:48,595 --> 00:18:49,694 calls somebody in our fingerprint lab, and the 511 00:18:49,696 --> 00:18:50,561 fingerprint lab, and the information he was trying to 512 00:18:50,563 --> 00:18:51,429 information he was trying to tell the fingerprint person is, 513 00:18:51,431 --> 00:18:52,463 tell the fingerprint person is, "hey, I've got an hpd number I 514 00:18:52,465 --> 00:18:53,631 "hey, I've got an hpd number I need you to compare this to." 515 00:18:53,633 --> 00:18:55,733 need you to compare this to." he didn't even mention the 516 00:18:55,735 --> 00:18:56,534 he didn't even mention the name. He said, "don't tell me 517 00:18:56,536 --> 00:18:57,735 name. He said, "don't tell me it's chaz blackshear." phil, 518 00:18:57,737 --> 00:18:59,871 it's chaz blackshear." phil, literally, I think he came 519 00:18:59,873 --> 00:19:01,405 literally, I think he came close to dropping the phone. 520 00:19:01,407 --> 00:19:03,174 Close to dropping the phone. All of that took place 521 00:19:03,176 --> 00:19:07,245 all of that took place literally in a matter of ten 522 00:19:07,247 --> 00:19:10,248 literally in a matter of ten minutes, fifteen minutes. Just 523 00:19:10,250 --> 00:19:12,083 minutes, fifteen minutes. Just boom, boom, boom, boom. The 524 00:19:12,085 --> 00:19:14,485 boom, boom, boom, boom. The gentleman that listed his 525 00:19:14,487 --> 00:19:16,187 gentleman that listed his pistol, he was friends with 526 00:19:16,189 --> 00:19:17,688 pistol, he was friends with chaz. He had his cellphone 527 00:19:17,690 --> 00:19:19,624 chaz. He had his cellphone number and he listed it on the 528 00:19:19,626 --> 00:19:21,159 number and he listed it on the police report. Now we have 529 00:19:21,161 --> 00:19:22,660 police report. Now we have enough evidence against chaz to 530 00:19:22,662 --> 00:19:24,061 enough evidence against chaz to be able to get a warrant for 531 00:19:24,063 --> 00:19:26,097 be able to get a warrant for his arrest. Once the marshals 532 00:19:26,099 --> 00:19:28,332 his arrest. Once the marshals were able to get the court 533 00:19:28,334 --> 00:19:29,700 were able to get the court order and activate the phone 534 00:19:29,702 --> 00:19:31,536 order and activate the phone search, it literally took us 535 00:19:31,538 --> 00:19:33,304 search, it literally took us right back to the same 536 00:19:33,306 --> 00:19:34,205 right back to the same apartment complex that we had 537 00:19:34,207 --> 00:19:34,739 apartment complex that we had been to before. 538 00:19:34,741 --> 00:19:36,274 Been to before. 539 00:19:43,615 --> 00:19:46,050 >> my name is chaz blackshear. I'm from dallas, texas. As a 540 00:19:46,052 --> 00:19:48,519 I'm from dallas, texas. As a child, I went through a lot of 541 00:19:48,521 --> 00:19:49,954 child, I went through a lot of emotional roller coasters. My 542 00:19:49,956 --> 00:19:54,158 emotional roller coasters. My mother being in jail. That's my 543 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,727 mother being in jail. That's my first memory. I used to get 544 00:19:56,729 --> 00:20:01,199 first memory. I used to get letters, drawings from her. I 545 00:20:01,201 --> 00:20:03,467 letters, drawings from her. I know my real father, but I only 546 00:20:03,469 --> 00:20:06,971 know my real father, but I only stayed with him for a short 547 00:20:06,973 --> 00:20:09,307 stayed with him for a short amount of time. It was in 548 00:20:09,309 --> 00:20:11,275 amount of time. It was in arizona. I left him up there 549 00:20:11,277 --> 00:20:13,477 arizona. I left him up there because, you know, he used to 550 00:20:13,479 --> 00:20:15,513 because, you know, he used to put his hands on me, busted my 551 00:20:15,515 --> 00:20:17,081 put his hands on me, busted my nose and all that. Not too long, 552 00:20:17,083 --> 00:20:19,350 nose and all that. Not too long, got to live with my mom, got 553 00:20:19,352 --> 00:20:24,989 got to live with my mom, got out of jail. Within probably a 554 00:20:24,991 --> 00:20:26,857 out of jail. Within probably a couple of months, maybe, she 555 00:20:26,859 --> 00:20:30,127 couple of months, maybe, she had met this dude named john. 556 00:20:30,129 --> 00:20:31,996 Had met this dude named john. He was different, man. He 557 00:20:31,998 --> 00:20:35,299 he was different, man. He actually showed up, made me do 558 00:20:35,301 --> 00:20:37,802 actually showed up, made me do my homework, made me, you know 559 00:20:37,804 --> 00:20:39,303 my homework, made me, you know what I'm saying, do things that 560 00:20:39,305 --> 00:20:40,671 what I'm saying, do things that counted in life, and he was 561 00:20:40,673 --> 00:20:41,872 counted in life, and he was that father that I wanted. He 562 00:20:41,874 --> 00:20:43,241 that father that I wanted. He had a motorcycle. You know what 563 00:20:43,243 --> 00:20:44,909 had a motorcycle. You know what I'm saying? He loved to ride 564 00:20:44,911 --> 00:20:46,544 I'm saying? He loved to ride the bikes. And I'd hop on the 565 00:20:46,546 --> 00:20:48,079 the bikes. And I'd hop on the bike with him. He rode off, and 566 00:20:48,081 --> 00:20:50,081 bike with him. He rode off, and he never came back. I remember 567 00:20:50,083 --> 00:20:56,621 he never came back. I remember the police came, the police 568 00:20:56,623 --> 00:20:59,423 the police came, the police came knocking at our door 569 00:20:59,425 --> 00:21:01,158 came knocking at our door probably around 10:00, 11:00 at 570 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:02,927 probably around 10:00, 11:00 at night. So I watched her open 571 00:21:02,929 --> 00:21:05,363 night. So I watched her open the door, see what's going on, 572 00:21:05,365 --> 00:21:08,633 the door, see what's going on, till they put their hands on my 573 00:21:08,635 --> 00:21:09,500 till they put their hands on my mama. And I just heard her 574 00:21:09,502 --> 00:21:10,534 mama. And I just heard her busting out crying. And he had 575 00:21:10,536 --> 00:21:11,736 busting out crying. And he had had a wreck on the bike, and 576 00:21:11,738 --> 00:21:13,871 had a wreck on the bike, and the wreck killed him. He flew 577 00:21:13,873 --> 00:21:15,606 the wreck killed him. He flew off the highway or something. I 578 00:21:15,608 --> 00:21:17,275 off the highway or something. I don't know. In a way, I feel 579 00:21:17,277 --> 00:21:18,676 don't know. In a way, I feel like everything was snatched 580 00:21:18,678 --> 00:21:21,345 like everything was snatched from me, the little family that 581 00:21:21,347 --> 00:21:24,148 from me, the little family that I had. After he died, my mama 582 00:21:24,150 --> 00:21:33,991 I had. After he died, my mama went back on the drugs. I seen 583 00:21:33,993 --> 00:21:36,827 went back on the drugs. I seen my mother o.D. One night. She 584 00:21:36,829 --> 00:21:39,397 my mother o.D. One night. She was foaming at the mouth, 585 00:21:39,399 --> 00:21:44,368 was foaming at the mouth, couldn't stop shaking, and I 586 00:21:44,370 --> 00:21:45,503 couldn't stop shaking, and I was scared. I ended up moving 587 00:21:45,505 --> 00:21:47,204 was scared. I ended up moving in with some cousins. So I 588 00:21:47,206 --> 00:21:49,507 in with some cousins. So I ended up staying there with my 589 00:21:49,509 --> 00:21:51,542 ended up staying there with my adoptive father and my adoptive 590 00:21:51,544 --> 00:21:54,378 adoptive father and my adoptive mother. They wouldn't let me do 591 00:21:54,380 --> 00:21:57,615 mother. They wouldn't let me do certain things that I was used 592 00:21:57,617 --> 00:22:01,352 certain things that I was used to being allowed to do, and 593 00:22:01,354 --> 00:22:05,589 to being allowed to do, and that was one of the reasons 594 00:22:05,591 --> 00:22:07,325 that was one of the reasons that I really rebelled a lot as 595 00:22:07,327 --> 00:22:09,694 that I really rebelled a lot as a child because I couldn't get 596 00:22:09,696 --> 00:22:11,395 a child because I couldn't get my way. Lot of times, I was 597 00:22:11,397 --> 00:22:14,098 my way. Lot of times, I was craving, like -- man, I was 598 00:22:14,100 --> 00:22:16,033 craving, like -- man, I was caught up in suicide at an 599 00:22:16,035 --> 00:22:18,436 caught up in suicide at an early age. Music was my passion, 600 00:22:18,438 --> 00:22:20,504 early age. Music was my passion, my goal, and my dream back then, 601 00:22:20,506 --> 00:22:22,606 my goal, and my dream back then, you know. That put all my 602 00:22:22,608 --> 00:22:24,442 you know. That put all my emotions, everything I been 603 00:22:24,444 --> 00:22:27,611 emotions, everything I been through in life, I put it in my 604 00:22:27,613 --> 00:22:29,747 through in life, I put it in my music. And that's -- that's one 605 00:22:29,749 --> 00:22:33,684 music. And that's -- that's one of the things that I know that 606 00:22:33,686 --> 00:22:35,686 of the things that I know that I'm blessed at and I'm gifted 607 00:22:35,688 --> 00:22:36,921 I'm blessed at and I'm gifted at and a thing I can breathe in, 608 00:22:36,923 --> 00:22:39,657 at and a thing I can breathe in, you know? I could -- I could do 609 00:22:39,659 --> 00:22:41,325 you know? I could -- I could do it for the rest of my life as a 610 00:22:41,327 --> 00:22:43,461 it for the rest of my life as a career and be happy doing it. 611 00:22:43,463 --> 00:22:46,130 Career and be happy doing it. Not just doing it for the 612 00:22:46,132 --> 00:22:47,331 not just doing it for the popularity or the money. Nobody 613 00:22:47,333 --> 00:22:49,400 popularity or the money. Nobody supported me through what I 614 00:22:49,402 --> 00:22:53,204 supported me through what I wanted. It was always what 615 00:22:53,206 --> 00:22:57,875 wanted. It was always what somebody else wanted, what they 616 00:22:57,877 --> 00:22:59,877 somebody else wanted, what they think is right, what they 617 00:22:59,879 --> 00:23:01,045 think is right, what they believed in. They told me, "go 618 00:23:01,047 --> 00:23:04,181 believed in. They told me, "go to college, go to the military, 619 00:23:04,183 --> 00:23:07,318 to college, go to the military, get you a job. You got to do 620 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,587 get you a job. You got to do something." and none of it 621 00:23:09,589 --> 00:23:11,155 something." and none of it involved music. So basically, I 622 00:23:11,157 --> 00:23:13,391 involved music. So basically, I ended up joining the military 623 00:23:13,393 --> 00:23:15,826 ended up joining the military just so I can get out the house, 624 00:23:15,828 --> 00:23:17,795 just so I can get out the house, so I can get away, just get 625 00:23:17,797 --> 00:23:23,534 so I can get away, just get away. If things wasn't gonna 626 00:23:23,536 --> 00:23:25,569 away. If things wasn't gonna get better, I was gonna force 627 00:23:25,571 --> 00:23:27,438 get better, I was gonna force them to get better. Danielle, 628 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,941 them to get better. Danielle, she was one of the first people 629 00:23:30,943 --> 00:23:45,689 she was one of the first people who believed in me. She really 630 00:23:45,691 --> 00:23:49,627 who believed in me. She really showed me something that I 631 00:23:49,629 --> 00:23:51,796 showed me something that I never really seen out of a 632 00:23:51,798 --> 00:23:53,697 never really seen out of a woman. She wanted the same 633 00:23:53,699 --> 00:23:57,201 woman. She wanted the same thing I wanted. She was raised 634 00:23:57,203 --> 00:24:00,237 thing I wanted. She was raised by her granny and everything, 635 00:24:00,239 --> 00:24:02,006 by her granny and everything, too, so we kind of had similar 636 00:24:02,008 --> 00:24:03,441 too, so we kind of had similar backgrounds. We just kind of 637 00:24:03,443 --> 00:24:06,410 backgrounds. We just kind of built that trust, you know, 638 00:24:06,412 --> 00:24:08,245 built that trust, you know, 'cause we both been through 639 00:24:08,247 --> 00:24:09,613 'cause we both been through something. And then after a 640 00:24:09,615 --> 00:24:11,348 something. And then after a while, you know what I'm saying, 641 00:24:11,350 --> 00:24:12,917 while, you know what I'm saying, she started staying there with 642 00:24:12,919 --> 00:24:14,051 she started staying there with me, and I guess that's when 643 00:24:14,053 --> 00:24:15,853 me, and I guess that's when everything kicked off. She just 644 00:24:15,855 --> 00:24:16,720 everything kicked off. She just so happened to have a child, 645 00:24:16,722 --> 00:24:19,623 so happened to have a child, and I knew that his father 646 00:24:19,625 --> 00:24:21,992 and I knew that his father wasn't really in his life. I 647 00:24:21,994 --> 00:24:26,096 wasn't really in his life. I could see her son really looked 648 00:24:26,098 --> 00:24:28,299 could see her son really looked up to me, always wanted to be 649 00:24:28,301 --> 00:24:30,000 up to me, always wanted to be around me. That made me hold on 650 00:24:30,002 --> 00:24:32,036 around me. That made me hold on to her tighter, you know,'cause 651 00:24:32,038 --> 00:24:33,604 to her tighter, you know,'cause that's how I felt, that he 652 00:24:33,606 --> 00:24:35,706 that's how I felt, that he needed a father. You know, I 653 00:24:35,708 --> 00:24:38,876 needed a father. You know, I didn't want them to feel the 654 00:24:38,878 --> 00:24:40,678 didn't want them to feel the same way that I felt back when 655 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,646 same way that I felt back when I lost john. And I was willing 656 00:24:42,648 --> 00:24:44,248 I lost john. And I was willing to do anything to make sure 657 00:24:44,250 --> 00:24:45,316 to do anything to make sure that don't happen. I really had 658 00:24:45,318 --> 00:24:47,818 that don't happen. I really had tried to stop hustling and, you 659 00:24:47,820 --> 00:24:49,620 tried to stop hustling and, you know, and actually go out and 660 00:24:49,622 --> 00:24:52,256 know, and actually go out and get a real job'cause I don't 661 00:24:52,258 --> 00:24:54,825 get a real job'cause I don't want nothing to take me away 662 00:24:54,827 --> 00:24:56,494 want nothing to take me away from my family. And it was hard 663 00:24:56,496 --> 00:24:58,395 from my family. And it was hard to get a job. You know, I 664 00:24:58,397 --> 00:24:59,497 to get a job. You know, I couldn't get one, I couldn't 665 00:24:59,499 --> 00:25:00,865 couldn't get one, I couldn't find one'cause I was 666 00:25:00,867 --> 00:25:01,966 find one'cause I was dishonorably discharged from 667 00:25:01,968 --> 00:25:04,201 dishonorably discharged from the military. We end up getting 668 00:25:04,203 --> 00:25:09,139 the military. We end up getting kicked out of the apartment, 669 00:25:09,141 --> 00:25:12,309 kicked out of the apartment, and they had put the eviction 670 00:25:12,311 --> 00:25:13,711 and they had put the eviction notice on the door. The next 671 00:25:13,713 --> 00:25:17,114 notice on the door. The next day, we had to go. I had to 672 00:25:17,116 --> 00:25:20,451 day, we had to go. I had to take care of them. I figured it 673 00:25:20,453 --> 00:25:22,152 take care of them. I figured it was my responsibility. I felt 674 00:25:22,154 --> 00:25:24,054 was my responsibility. I felt if I didn't do nothing, I 675 00:25:24,056 --> 00:25:26,524 if I didn't do nothing, I wasn't a man. The first thing 676 00:25:26,526 --> 00:25:28,259 wasn't a man. The first thing that came to mind was quick 677 00:25:28,261 --> 00:25:30,628 that came to mind was quick money, and I was desperate for 678 00:25:30,630 --> 00:25:34,331 money, and I was desperate for it. I'm pretty sure anybody, 679 00:25:34,333 --> 00:25:40,738 it. I'm pretty sure anybody, for their family, would do 680 00:25:40,740 --> 00:25:41,972 for their family, would do anything they have to to make 681 00:25:41,974 --> 00:25:43,073 anything they have to to make sure their family was okay. I'm 682 00:25:43,075 --> 00:25:46,477 sure their family was okay. I'm not gonna lie. I probably 683 00:25:46,479 --> 00:25:47,945 not gonna lie. I probably wasn't mature enough to see I 684 00:25:47,947 --> 00:25:48,779 wasn't mature enough to see I could have found a better way. 685 00:25:48,781 --> 00:25:56,120 Could have found a better way. >> I had never forgot. I was 686 00:25:56,122 --> 00:25:58,022 >> I had never forgot. I was laying on the floor. She was 687 00:25:58,024 --> 00:26:05,229 laying on the floor. She was sitting up. And I was asleep. I 688 00:26:05,231 --> 00:26:07,665 sitting up. And I was asleep. I was sleeping so hard, I didn't 689 00:26:07,667 --> 00:26:09,199 was sleeping so hard, I didn't even hear them kick the door 690 00:26:09,201 --> 00:26:11,235 even hear them kick the door in. I didn't even hear it. I 691 00:26:11,237 --> 00:26:13,404 in. I didn't even hear it. I don't know if it was from the 692 00:26:13,406 --> 00:26:15,372 don't know if it was from the stress or being depressed. I 693 00:26:15,374 --> 00:26:16,774 stress or being depressed. I don't know what it was. I was 694 00:26:16,776 --> 00:26:18,676 don't know what it was. I was actually in a dead sleep. She 695 00:26:18,678 --> 00:26:20,611 actually in a dead sleep. She shook me and woke me up. I said, 696 00:26:20,613 --> 00:26:22,212 shook me and woke me up. I said, "what's up? " she said, "man, 697 00:26:22,214 --> 00:26:23,781 "what's up? " she said, "man, the police are here." and they 698 00:26:23,783 --> 00:26:25,349 the police are here." and they took me in. But I could have 699 00:26:25,351 --> 00:26:30,421 took me in. But I could have took that. But with her, when 700 00:26:30,423 --> 00:26:34,058 took that. But with her, when they took her in -- you know, 701 00:26:34,060 --> 00:26:35,492 they took her in -- you know, aj was still there. Man, it's 702 00:26:35,494 --> 00:26:38,262 aj was still there. Man, it's stuff I didn't want him to see, 703 00:26:38,264 --> 00:26:38,462 stuff I didn't want him to see, man. 704 00:26:38,464 --> 00:26:41,498 Man. 705 00:26:49,908 --> 00:26:51,208 >> my name is caroline dozier. I'm a prosecutor at the harris 706 00:26:51,210 --> 00:26:52,076 I'm a prosecutor at the harris county district attorney's 707 00:26:52,078 --> 00:26:53,344 county district attorney's office, and I was the lead 708 00:26:53,346 --> 00:26:54,144 office, and I was the lead prosecutor in the chaz 709 00:26:54,146 --> 00:26:55,346 prosecutor in the chaz blackshear and danielle hudson 710 00:26:55,348 --> 00:26:56,814 blackshear and danielle hudson capital murder cases. My very 711 00:26:56,816 --> 00:26:59,850 capital murder cases. My very first involvement with this 712 00:26:59,852 --> 00:27:00,985 first involvement with this case was when sergeant harris 713 00:27:00,987 --> 00:27:02,119 case was when sergeant harris and detective waters came to my 714 00:27:02,121 --> 00:27:04,188 and detective waters came to my office and talked to me about 715 00:27:04,190 --> 00:27:05,756 office and talked to me about picking up this case. A cab 716 00:27:05,758 --> 00:27:08,492 picking up this case. A cab driver had been murdered, and 717 00:27:08,494 --> 00:27:09,994 driver had been murdered, and they wanted my help. There were 718 00:27:09,996 --> 00:27:12,997 they wanted my help. There were two very good leads that led us 719 00:27:12,999 --> 00:27:14,632 two very good leads that led us to chaz blackshear specifically 720 00:27:14,634 --> 00:27:16,300 to chaz blackshear specifically and then ultimately danielle 721 00:27:16,302 --> 00:27:17,901 and then ultimately danielle hudson, as well. One of which 722 00:27:17,903 --> 00:27:20,270 hudson, as well. One of which was the link between the two 723 00:27:20,272 --> 00:27:21,639 was the link between the two cases, the shell casings. They 724 00:27:21,641 --> 00:27:23,240 cases, the shell casings. They were found to be fired from a 725 00:27:23,242 --> 00:27:26,977 were found to be fired from a very unique type of gun. In 726 00:27:26,979 --> 00:27:29,647 very unique type of gun. In addition to that, they took 727 00:27:29,649 --> 00:27:32,182 addition to that, they took fingerprints off of the cab, 728 00:27:32,184 --> 00:27:33,484 fingerprints off of the cab, and they were able to match one 729 00:27:33,486 --> 00:27:35,052 and they were able to match one of the prints to chaz 730 00:27:35,054 --> 00:27:36,787 of the prints to chaz blackshear. We knew that chaz 731 00:27:36,789 --> 00:27:42,292 blackshear. We knew that chaz blackshear had a phone and we 732 00:27:42,294 --> 00:27:44,294 blackshear had a phone and we were in contact with the phone 733 00:27:44,296 --> 00:27:45,696 were in contact with the phone company about his service. It 734 00:27:45,698 --> 00:27:48,165 company about his service. It was a prepaid phone, and it was 735 00:27:48,167 --> 00:27:50,000 was a prepaid phone, and it was running low on minutes. And so 736 00:27:50,002 --> 00:27:52,069 running low on minutes. And so in a ruse, they told the phone 737 00:27:52,071 --> 00:27:53,771 in a ruse, they told the phone company to call him and let him 738 00:27:53,773 --> 00:27:56,106 company to call him and let him know that they were giving him 739 00:27:56,108 --> 00:27:57,675 know that they were giving him additional minutes so that we 740 00:27:57,677 --> 00:27:59,410 additional minutes so that we could keep tabs on where he 741 00:27:59,412 --> 00:28:01,612 could keep tabs on where he might be. Chaz blackshear and 742 00:28:01,614 --> 00:28:05,349 might be. Chaz blackshear and danielle hudson were staying at 743 00:28:05,351 --> 00:28:06,750 danielle hudson were staying at a family member's home. I 744 00:28:06,752 --> 00:28:08,552 a family member's home. I believe it was a cousin's home. 745 00:28:08,554 --> 00:28:10,054 Believe it was a cousin's home. And so we wrote warrants for 746 00:28:10,056 --> 00:28:11,889 and so we wrote warrants for chaz blackshear. We didn't 747 00:28:11,891 --> 00:28:13,557 chaz blackshear. We didn't believe that we had enough at 748 00:28:13,559 --> 00:28:14,825 believe that we had enough at that time to write one for 749 00:28:14,827 --> 00:28:16,493 that time to write one for danielle hudson. They found 750 00:28:16,495 --> 00:28:22,232 danielle hudson. They found chaz and danielle both at the 751 00:28:22,234 --> 00:28:23,634 chaz and danielle both at the home. I believe they were 752 00:28:23,636 --> 00:28:24,668 home. I believe they were sleeping on an air mattress. 753 00:28:24,670 --> 00:28:26,403 Sleeping on an air mattress. There was something about the 754 00:28:26,405 --> 00:28:28,005 there was something about the shape of danielle's hair or her 755 00:28:28,007 --> 00:28:29,506 shape of danielle's hair or her head that was familiar. When 756 00:28:29,508 --> 00:28:31,141 head that was familiar. When they saw her, she looked 757 00:28:31,143 --> 00:28:32,176 they saw her, she looked basically like the person who 758 00:28:32,178 --> 00:28:33,844 basically like the person who was in the video of the two 759 00:28:33,846 --> 00:28:35,345 was in the video of the two suspects running away from the 760 00:28:35,347 --> 00:28:36,613 suspects running away from the taxicab. The other thing that 761 00:28:36,615 --> 00:28:39,049 taxicab. The other thing that the officers found familiar 762 00:28:39,051 --> 00:28:40,918 the officers found familiar about danielle was the sound of 763 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,019 about danielle was the sound of her voice. They had listened to 764 00:28:42,021 --> 00:28:44,488 her voice. They had listened to the recordings of the phone 765 00:28:44,490 --> 00:28:46,023 the recordings of the phone calls being made to the cab 766 00:28:46,025 --> 00:28:47,524 calls being made to the cab companies. And when they talked 767 00:28:47,526 --> 00:28:48,459 companies. And when they talked to her, they noticed that her 768 00:28:48,461 --> 00:28:49,393 to her, they noticed that her voice sounded very similar to, 769 00:28:49,395 --> 00:28:51,195 voice sounded very similar to, if not the same, as the person 770 00:28:51,197 --> 00:28:52,463 if not the same, as the person who'd made those phone calls. 771 00:28:52,465 --> 00:28:56,400 Who'd made those phone calls. They arrested chaz on the 772 00:28:56,402 --> 00:29:01,105 they arrested chaz on the warrant. And then they asked 773 00:29:01,107 --> 00:29:02,573 warrant. And then they asked danielle hudson if she wouldn't 774 00:29:02,575 --> 00:29:03,941 danielle hudson if she wouldn't mind coming down to the police 775 00:29:03,943 --> 00:29:05,642 mind coming down to the police station and giving a statement, 776 00:29:05,644 --> 00:29:06,810 station and giving a statement, and she agreed to do so. The 777 00:29:06,812 --> 00:29:08,679 and she agreed to do so. The detectives decided they first 778 00:29:08,681 --> 00:29:10,247 detectives decided they first wanted to speak with chaz 779 00:29:10,249 --> 00:29:11,248 wanted to speak with chaz blackshear and see what he 780 00:29:11,250 --> 00:29:12,282 blackshear and see what he would admit to regarding the 781 00:29:12,284 --> 00:29:13,684 would admit to regarding the crimes. He said that he had 782 00:29:13,686 --> 00:29:19,623 crimes. He said that he had taken cabs. He might have even 783 00:29:19,625 --> 00:29:22,159 taken cabs. He might have even been in the cabs of the 784 00:29:22,161 --> 00:29:23,961 been in the cabs of the murdered drivers, but that he 785 00:29:23,963 --> 00:29:25,062 murdered drivers, but that he was not involved in any way, 786 00:29:25,064 --> 00:29:26,063 was not involved in any way, shape, or form in those 787 00:29:26,065 --> 00:29:26,497 shape, or form in those murders. 788 00:29:26,499 --> 00:29:28,665 Murders. >> chaz. Chaz, listen to me, my 789 00:29:28,667 --> 00:29:29,833 >> chaz. Chaz, listen to me, my friend. I know where you went 790 00:29:29,835 --> 00:29:32,236 friend. I know where you went because I've got it on 791 00:29:32,238 --> 00:29:34,304 because I've got it on videotape with three different 792 00:29:34,306 --> 00:29:36,073 videotape with three different angles. I know where danielle 793 00:29:36,075 --> 00:29:37,674 angles. I know where danielle went. I know where she walked 794 00:29:37,676 --> 00:29:40,110 went. I know where she walked to. I know when she walked 795 00:29:40,112 --> 00:29:42,045 to. I know when she walked back. I know when you got out 796 00:29:42,047 --> 00:29:43,781 back. I know when you got out of the cab. I know when you 797 00:29:43,783 --> 00:29:45,249 of the cab. I know when you walked around the cab. I know 798 00:29:45,251 --> 00:29:47,351 walked around the cab. I know when you walked up to the 799 00:29:47,353 --> 00:29:48,719 when you walked up to the driver of the cab. And I know 800 00:29:48,721 --> 00:29:50,020 driver of the cab. And I know what you did when you got to 801 00:29:50,022 --> 00:29:51,221 what you did when you got to the driver because I've got it 802 00:29:51,223 --> 00:29:51,755 the driver because I've got it on videotape. 803 00:29:51,757 --> 00:29:54,691 On videotape. >> I never, well, that's not 804 00:29:54,693 --> 00:29:55,359 >> I never, well, that's not true. That couldn't have been 805 00:29:55,361 --> 00:29:55,993 true. That couldn't have been us. That's not true. 806 00:29:55,995 --> 00:29:58,962 Us. That's not true. >> detective waters was trying 807 00:29:58,964 --> 00:30:02,432 >> detective waters was trying to get chaz to confess to his 808 00:30:02,434 --> 00:30:07,771 to get chaz to confess to his involvement in these crimes, 809 00:30:07,773 --> 00:30:09,973 involvement in these crimes, but was unsuccessful initially. 810 00:30:09,975 --> 00:30:12,176 But was unsuccessful initially. And the one ace in the hole 811 00:30:12,178 --> 00:30:14,278 and the one ace in the hole that we had was danielle 812 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,013 that we had was danielle hudson. We still had an 813 00:30:16,015 --> 00:30:16,814 hudson. We still had an opportunity to talk to her and 814 00:30:16,816 --> 00:30:18,282 opportunity to talk to her and try and find out the crime from 815 00:30:18,284 --> 00:30:19,383 try and find out the crime from her and then maybe use what she 816 00:30:19,385 --> 00:30:21,785 her and then maybe use what she told us to get chaz to tell us 817 00:30:21,787 --> 00:30:23,387 told us to get chaz to tell us the truth. Brian harris showed 818 00:30:23,389 --> 00:30:27,758 the truth. Brian harris showed her the footage from the crime 819 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,226 her the footage from the crime scene and pointed out the 820 00:30:29,228 --> 00:30:30,961 scene and pointed out the similarities between her and 821 00:30:30,963 --> 00:30:32,629 similarities between her and the female on the surveillance 822 00:30:32,631 --> 00:30:34,698 the female on the surveillance footage. And she admitted at 823 00:30:34,700 --> 00:30:36,333 footage. And she admitted at that point that that was in 824 00:30:36,335 --> 00:30:39,536 that point that that was in fact her. That was a huge break 825 00:30:39,538 --> 00:30:41,038 fact her. That was a huge break in the case for us. We already 826 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,606 in the case for us. We already had some evidence that tied 827 00:30:42,608 --> 00:30:44,541 had some evidence that tied them to this particular case, 828 00:30:44,543 --> 00:30:46,643 them to this particular case, but now that we know that she's 829 00:30:46,645 --> 00:30:48,212 but now that we know that she's admitting to being the person 830 00:30:48,214 --> 00:30:49,413 admitting to being the person on that video, now we know that 831 00:30:49,415 --> 00:30:51,682 on that video, now we know that those two are probably our best 832 00:30:51,684 --> 00:30:53,917 those two are probably our best suspects. Danielle seemed to 833 00:30:53,919 --> 00:30:58,789 suspects. Danielle seemed to think that because she wasn't 834 00:30:58,791 --> 00:31:05,262 think that because she wasn't the actual shooter, that 835 00:31:05,264 --> 00:31:07,097 the actual shooter, that somehow she would play no part 836 00:31:07,099 --> 00:31:08,832 somehow she would play no part in this particular crime, and 837 00:31:08,834 --> 00:31:10,167 in this particular crime, and she was pretty quick in ratting 838 00:31:10,169 --> 00:31:10,634 she was pretty quick in ratting out chaz. 839 00:31:10,636 --> 00:31:14,638 Out chaz. >> he cocked the gun, and 840 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,206 >> he cocked the gun, and that's when the cab driver 841 00:31:16,208 --> 00:31:17,407 that's when the cab driver opened the door. I tried to 842 00:31:17,409 --> 00:31:19,443 opened the door. I tried to take off the seatbelt to run, 843 00:31:19,445 --> 00:31:20,611 take off the seatbelt to run, and that's when he just started 844 00:31:20,613 --> 00:31:21,879 and that's when he just started shooting him. He just told me, 845 00:31:21,881 --> 00:31:23,647 shooting him. He just told me, he said that we'll call the cab 846 00:31:23,649 --> 00:31:25,849 he said that we'll call the cab and that he was just gonna jack 847 00:31:25,851 --> 00:31:28,018 and that he was just gonna jack the man. I didn't know that he 848 00:31:28,020 --> 00:31:30,554 the man. I didn't know that he was going to kill the man. I 849 00:31:30,556 --> 00:31:31,154 was going to kill the man. I did not know that. 850 00:31:31,156 --> 00:31:33,323 Did not know that. >> okay. 851 00:31:33,325 --> 00:31:37,261 >> okay. >> danielle hudson claimed that 852 00:31:37,263 --> 00:31:37,961 >> danielle hudson claimed that she was driving the cab and 853 00:31:37,963 --> 00:31:39,263 she was driving the cab and that she heard chaz having a 854 00:31:39,265 --> 00:31:40,864 that she heard chaz having a conversation with mr. El sayed. 855 00:31:40,866 --> 00:31:43,267 Conversation with mr. El sayed. At that point, she just thought 856 00:31:43,269 --> 00:31:44,301 at that point, she just thought they were gonna rob him. 857 00:31:44,303 --> 00:31:46,303 They were gonna rob him. Mohammad was saying, "please 858 00:31:46,305 --> 00:31:47,537 mohammad was saying, "please don't kill me. I have kids." 859 00:31:47,539 --> 00:31:48,538 don't kill me. I have kids." and chaz said, "well, how old 860 00:31:48,540 --> 00:31:50,173 and chaz said, "well, how old are your kids? " and once he 861 00:31:50,175 --> 00:31:51,642 are your kids? " and once he told them how old they were, 862 00:31:51,644 --> 00:31:52,809 told them how old they were, chaz was basically like, "well, 863 00:31:52,811 --> 00:31:53,944 chaz was basically like, "well, that's old enough, " and shot 864 00:31:53,946 --> 00:31:55,312 that's old enough, " and shot him. The children were like 865 00:31:55,314 --> 00:31:59,283 him. The children were like maybe 6 years old. That was old 866 00:31:59,285 --> 00:32:01,685 maybe 6 years old. That was old enough in his mind. And when 867 00:32:01,687 --> 00:32:04,588 enough in his mind. And when the gun went off, she claimed 868 00:32:04,590 --> 00:32:05,622 the gun went off, she claimed she was surprised, although she 869 00:32:05,624 --> 00:32:07,324 she was surprised, although she then helped pull the body out 870 00:32:07,326 --> 00:32:08,592 then helped pull the body out of the car and kick him down 871 00:32:08,594 --> 00:32:10,694 of the car and kick him down into the culvert. From 872 00:32:10,696 --> 00:32:13,063 into the culvert. From danielle's perspective, I think 873 00:32:13,065 --> 00:32:14,197 danielle's perspective, I think she wanted the police to 874 00:32:14,199 --> 00:32:15,799 she wanted the police to believe that they were only 875 00:32:15,801 --> 00:32:17,601 believe that they were only gonna use the gun to scare 876 00:32:17,603 --> 00:32:18,969 gonna use the gun to scare people and get money. She did 877 00:32:18,971 --> 00:32:21,038 people and get money. She did not want the police believing 878 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,639 not want the police believing that she knew that the murders 879 00:32:22,641 --> 00:32:24,608 that she knew that the murders would happen beforehand. As she 880 00:32:24,610 --> 00:32:29,913 would happen beforehand. As she said in the interview, this was 881 00:32:29,915 --> 00:32:31,014 said in the interview, this was the beginning of his life of 882 00:32:31,016 --> 00:32:32,582 the beginning of his life of crime and that maybe he enjoyed 883 00:32:32,584 --> 00:32:34,685 crime and that maybe he enjoyed it a little bit. Danielle 884 00:32:34,687 --> 00:32:37,754 it a little bit. Danielle claims that chaz told her, 885 00:32:37,756 --> 00:32:39,456 claims that chaz told her, "don't worry about it. If we 886 00:32:39,458 --> 00:32:40,824 "don't worry about it. If we ever get caught, " and that's a 887 00:32:40,826 --> 00:32:42,759 ever get caught, " and that's a big if in his mind, "if we ever 888 00:32:42,761 --> 00:32:44,695 big if in his mind, "if we ever get caught, I'll take full 889 00:32:44,697 --> 00:32:46,396 get caught, I'll take full responsibility and you won't 890 00:32:46,398 --> 00:32:47,831 responsibility and you won't have any blame in this 891 00:32:47,833 --> 00:32:48,332 have any blame in this whatsoever." 892 00:32:48,334 --> 00:32:53,704 whatsoever." 893 00:32:54,439 --> 00:32:55,706 >> two cab drivers murdered within 48 hours of each other. 894 00:32:55,708 --> 00:32:57,641 Within 48 hours of each other. The tension in the city with 895 00:32:57,643 --> 00:33:00,510 the tension in the city with these reports coming out, it 896 00:33:00,512 --> 00:33:02,212 these reports coming out, it was very real. And now we 897 00:33:02,214 --> 00:33:04,614 was very real. And now we finally have two suspects that 898 00:33:04,616 --> 00:33:06,483 finally have two suspects that have been arrested. And the 899 00:33:06,485 --> 00:33:07,818 have been arrested. And the city of houston, you could 900 00:33:07,820 --> 00:33:09,252 city of houston, you could almost sense a sigh of relief. 901 00:33:09,254 --> 00:33:11,788 Almost sense a sigh of relief. Chaz blackshear and danielle 902 00:33:11,790 --> 00:33:13,156 chaz blackshear and danielle hudson were now looking at two 903 00:33:13,158 --> 00:33:13,957 hudson were now looking at two counts of first-degree murder. 904 00:33:13,959 --> 00:33:17,194 Counts of first-degree murder. >> during the interview with 905 00:33:17,196 --> 00:33:22,632 >> during the interview with danielle, my partner's in the 906 00:33:22,634 --> 00:33:24,301 danielle, my partner's in the other room with chaz, and 907 00:33:24,303 --> 00:33:26,003 other room with chaz, and they've been talking for a long 908 00:33:26,005 --> 00:33:27,304 they've been talking for a long time, and he was a pretty cool 909 00:33:27,306 --> 00:33:29,106 time, and he was a pretty cool character. He wasn't giving an 910 00:33:29,108 --> 00:33:29,506 character. He wasn't giving an inch. 911 00:33:29,508 --> 00:33:33,210 Inch. >> detective waters told chaz, 912 00:33:33,212 --> 00:33:34,244 >> detective waters told chaz, you know, "danielle's talking 913 00:33:34,246 --> 00:33:35,312 you know, "danielle's talking to us. She's telling us what 914 00:33:35,314 --> 00:33:37,114 to us. She's telling us what happened. She's telling us that 915 00:33:37,116 --> 00:33:38,382 happened. She's telling us that you were involved and that you 916 00:33:38,384 --> 00:33:39,750 you were involved and that you are the shooter in both of 917 00:33:39,752 --> 00:33:40,951 are the shooter in both of those cases." and chaz wouldn't 918 00:33:40,953 --> 00:33:42,786 those cases." and chaz wouldn't bite. He didn't believe that 919 00:33:42,788 --> 00:33:44,087 bite. He didn't believe that she was telling them. He said, 920 00:33:44,089 --> 00:33:45,455 she was telling them. He said, "that's not the truth." 921 00:33:45,457 --> 00:33:47,391 "that's not the truth." sergeant harris had danielle 922 00:33:47,393 --> 00:33:49,159 sergeant harris had danielle write a note, like, "you 923 00:33:49,161 --> 00:33:51,328 write a note, like, "you promised me you'd take 924 00:33:51,330 --> 00:33:51,895 promised me you'd take responsibility." 925 00:33:51,897 --> 00:33:54,197 responsibility." >> he looks at that note, and 926 00:33:54,199 --> 00:33:55,832 >> he looks at that note, and it doesn't break him. He looks 927 00:33:55,834 --> 00:33:57,968 it doesn't break him. He looks at it, and he says, "she didn't 928 00:33:57,970 --> 00:33:59,102 at it, and he says, "she didn't write this. There's no spelling 929 00:33:59,104 --> 00:34:01,938 write this. There's no spelling mistakes. She's not that 930 00:34:01,940 --> 00:34:04,241 mistakes. She's not that smart." still not breaking. We 931 00:34:04,243 --> 00:34:06,877 smart." still not breaking. We bring in the photographs, and 932 00:34:06,879 --> 00:34:08,612 bring in the photographs, and on one of the photographs, 933 00:34:08,614 --> 00:34:10,514 on one of the photographs, danielle has circled chaz and 934 00:34:10,516 --> 00:34:12,482 danielle has circled chaz and she writes in her own 935 00:34:12,484 --> 00:34:14,418 she writes in her own handwriting, "my ex-boyfriend." 936 00:34:14,420 --> 00:34:18,055 handwriting, "my ex-boyfriend." he's surprised. And then 937 00:34:18,057 --> 00:34:19,256 he's surprised. And then finally, as a result of seeing 938 00:34:19,258 --> 00:34:20,957 finally, as a result of seeing more and more of these 939 00:34:20,959 --> 00:34:22,859 more and more of these photographs that she has signed 940 00:34:22,861 --> 00:34:24,561 photographs that she has signed off on, he then agrees to tell 941 00:34:24,563 --> 00:34:25,362 off on, he then agrees to tell the full story to my partner. 942 00:34:25,364 --> 00:34:29,666 The full story to my partner. >> chaz blackshear said he 943 00:34:29,668 --> 00:34:34,438 >> chaz blackshear said he would tell the police 944 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:35,439 would tell the police everything, but not until he 945 00:34:35,441 --> 00:34:37,574 everything, but not until he had a chance to talk to 946 00:34:37,576 --> 00:34:39,576 had a chance to talk to danielle. "I want to see her." 947 00:34:39,578 --> 00:34:40,477 danielle. "I want to see her." if you let me see her, I'll 948 00:34:40,479 --> 00:34:41,445 if you let me see her, I'll tell you whatever you want to 949 00:34:41,447 --> 00:34:42,879 tell you whatever you want to know." we said, "well, we don't 950 00:34:42,881 --> 00:34:45,348 know." we said, "well, we don't -- we're not gonna put her in 951 00:34:45,350 --> 00:34:46,683 -- we're not gonna put her in the room first. Tell us first, 952 00:34:46,685 --> 00:34:48,985 the room first. Tell us first, and then we'll see what we can 953 00:34:48,987 --> 00:34:51,621 and then we'll see what we can do." and he does. He describes 954 00:34:51,623 --> 00:34:55,025 do." and he does. He describes in detail what he did. The 955 00:34:55,027 --> 00:34:56,827 in detail what he did. The actual, quote, confession 956 00:34:56,829 --> 00:34:59,029 actual, quote, confession itself is probably less than 957 00:34:59,031 --> 00:35:01,098 itself is probably less than five to seven minutes. What 958 00:35:01,100 --> 00:35:03,533 five to seven minutes. What happens next is pretty 959 00:35:03,535 --> 00:35:04,034 happens next is pretty incredible. 960 00:35:04,036 --> 00:35:10,273 Incredible. >> the detectives were true to 961 00:35:10,275 --> 00:35:11,875 >> the detectives were true to their word. After chaz 962 00:35:11,877 --> 00:35:12,809 their word. After chaz confessed and told them what 963 00:35:12,811 --> 00:35:14,411 confessed and told them what had happened in the crimes, 964 00:35:14,413 --> 00:35:15,745 had happened in the crimes, they allowed danielle to be in 965 00:35:15,747 --> 00:35:17,581 they allowed danielle to be in the same room with chaz. You 966 00:35:17,583 --> 00:35:19,116 the same room with chaz. You could see what their 967 00:35:19,118 --> 00:35:23,353 could see what their relationship was like, and 968 00:35:23,355 --> 00:35:24,521 relationship was like, and there was no fear on danielle's 969 00:35:24,523 --> 00:35:25,555 there was no fear on danielle's face. As a matter of fact, 970 00:35:25,557 --> 00:35:26,656 face. As a matter of fact, instead of sitting in a chair 971 00:35:26,658 --> 00:35:27,891 instead of sitting in a chair across the table from him, she 972 00:35:27,893 --> 00:35:29,326 across the table from him, she went right up to him and sat in 973 00:35:29,328 --> 00:35:29,759 went right up to him and sat in his lap. 974 00:35:29,761 --> 00:35:33,930 His lap. >> her arms are curled around 975 00:35:33,932 --> 00:35:34,965 >> her arms are curled around his head, like almost massaging 976 00:35:34,967 --> 00:35:37,367 his head, like almost massaging his ears and scratching his 977 00:35:37,369 --> 00:35:39,002 his ears and scratching his head and saying, "well, you 978 00:35:39,004 --> 00:35:40,971 head and saying, "well, you told me that you would do this 979 00:35:40,973 --> 00:35:44,741 told me that you would do this and that you would take 980 00:35:44,743 --> 00:35:46,076 and that you would take responsibility because I have 981 00:35:46,078 --> 00:35:46,543 responsibility because I have my son." 982 00:35:46,545 --> 00:35:51,681 my son." >> when they let her come talk 983 00:35:51,683 --> 00:35:52,582 >> when they let her come talk to me, I told her then, you 984 00:35:52,584 --> 00:35:54,451 to me, I told her then, you know what I'm saying, "I got 985 00:35:54,453 --> 00:35:56,219 know what I'm saying, "I got you. Put it on me. But you got 986 00:35:56,221 --> 00:35:58,121 you. Put it on me. But you got to do the same. It's the only 987 00:35:58,123 --> 00:35:58,889 to do the same. It's the only way you can get out of it." 988 00:35:58,891 --> 00:36:00,991 way you can get out of it." >> he then asked her, "are you 989 00:36:00,993 --> 00:36:01,691 >> he then asked her, "are you going to jail? " and she 990 00:36:01,693 --> 00:36:02,626 going to jail? " and she doesn't know at that point, 991 00:36:02,628 --> 00:36:04,828 doesn't know at that point, because in our interview, I 992 00:36:04,830 --> 00:36:06,229 because in our interview, I said, "I don't know if you're 993 00:36:06,231 --> 00:36:07,864 said, "I don't know if you're going to be charged." basically, 994 00:36:07,866 --> 00:36:09,533 going to be charged." basically, depends on what she says. 995 00:36:09,535 --> 00:36:12,102 Depends on what she says. >> do you hate me? 996 00:36:12,104 --> 00:36:13,837 >> do you hate me? >> no. That's why, that's why I 997 00:36:13,839 --> 00:36:15,305 >> no. That's why, that's why I confessed to it. If I hated you, 998 00:36:15,307 --> 00:36:15,839 confessed to it. If I hated you, I wouldn't have did it. 999 00:36:15,841 --> 00:36:20,844 I wouldn't have did it. >> criminals normally aren't 1000 00:36:20,846 --> 00:36:22,779 >> criminals normally aren't very smart, and so the fact 1001 00:36:22,781 --> 00:36:24,047 very smart, and so the fact that the two of them were 1002 00:36:24,049 --> 00:36:25,582 that the two of them were together and they spoke so 1003 00:36:25,584 --> 00:36:26,983 together and they spoke so openly talking about the case, 1004 00:36:26,985 --> 00:36:28,652 openly talking about the case, who was gonna take the blame, 1005 00:36:28,654 --> 00:36:30,086 who was gonna take the blame, they must been shocked when 1006 00:36:30,088 --> 00:36:31,087 they must been shocked when they realize that the police 1007 00:36:31,089 --> 00:36:31,888 they realize that the police were listening to every word. 1008 00:36:31,890 --> 00:36:34,457 Were listening to every word. >> once we had the confessions 1009 00:36:34,459 --> 00:36:35,292 >> once we had the confessions from chaz and danielle, we then 1010 00:36:35,294 --> 00:36:37,060 from chaz and danielle, we then filed formal charges of capital 1011 00:36:37,062 --> 00:36:39,262 filed formal charges of capital murder against them for both of 1012 00:36:39,264 --> 00:36:39,829 murder against them for both of the cab drivers. 1013 00:36:39,831 --> 00:36:44,367 The cab drivers. >> just because she didn't 1014 00:36:44,369 --> 00:36:45,702 >> just because she didn't shoot the victims, just because 1015 00:36:45,704 --> 00:36:47,003 shoot the victims, just because she wasn't the one actually 1016 00:36:47,005 --> 00:36:48,004 she wasn't the one actually pulling the trigger doesn't 1017 00:36:48,006 --> 00:36:49,206 pulling the trigger doesn't mean that she was gonna get off 1018 00:36:49,208 --> 00:36:49,873 mean that she was gonna get off completely scot-free. 1019 00:36:49,875 --> 00:36:53,176 Completely scot-free. >> in the end, both chaz 1020 00:36:53,178 --> 00:36:57,113 >> in the end, both chaz blackshear and danielle hudson 1021 00:36:57,115 --> 00:36:57,681 blackshear and danielle hudson plead guilty. 1022 00:36:57,683 --> 00:37:01,418 Plead guilty. >> she was allowed to plead 1023 00:37:01,420 --> 00:37:02,719 >> she was allowed to plead guilty to a lesser included 1024 00:37:02,721 --> 00:37:04,221 guilty to a lesser included offense. The state chose to 1025 00:37:04,223 --> 00:37:06,990 offense. The state chose to seek the death penalty against 1026 00:37:06,992 --> 00:37:08,525 seek the death penalty against chaz blackshear because we 1027 00:37:08,527 --> 00:37:09,759 chaz blackshear because we thought the cases were 1028 00:37:09,761 --> 00:37:11,061 thought the cases were cold-blooded enough, and we 1029 00:37:11,063 --> 00:37:12,295 cold-blooded enough, and we thought a jury would return a 1030 00:37:12,297 --> 00:37:12,896 thought a jury would return a verdict of death. 1031 00:37:12,898 --> 00:37:15,699 Verdict of death. >> danielle hudson gets 1032 00:37:15,701 --> 00:37:17,200 >> danielle hudson gets sentenced to 40 years, 40 years 1033 00:37:17,202 --> 00:37:19,402 sentenced to 40 years, 40 years in texas, department of 1034 00:37:19,404 --> 00:37:21,638 in texas, department of corrections -- tdc. Chaz 1035 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,207 corrections -- tdc. Chaz blackshear, he also pleads 1036 00:37:24,209 --> 00:37:24,641 blackshear, he also pleads guilty. 1037 00:37:24,643 --> 00:37:28,144 Guilty. >> my lawyer at the time didn't 1038 00:37:28,146 --> 00:37:30,180 >> my lawyer at the time didn't understand. At the time, they 1039 00:37:30,182 --> 00:37:33,550 understand. At the time, they were trying to get me the death 1040 00:37:33,552 --> 00:37:34,618 were trying to get me the death penalty, you know? And I wasn't 1041 00:37:34,620 --> 00:37:36,319 penalty, you know? And I wasn't trying to fight it. And I 1042 00:37:36,321 --> 00:37:38,455 trying to fight it. And I really didn't care about it. 1043 00:37:38,457 --> 00:37:39,623 Really didn't care about it. Long as they got off, then I 1044 00:37:39,625 --> 00:37:41,524 long as they got off, then I was good no matter what, you 1045 00:37:41,526 --> 00:37:43,026 was good no matter what, you know, what I'm saying? Whether 1046 00:37:43,028 --> 00:37:44,027 know, what I'm saying? Whether it's death, whether it's life, 1047 00:37:44,029 --> 00:37:44,961 it's death, whether it's life, whether it's freedom. I put 1048 00:37:44,963 --> 00:37:46,463 whether it's freedom. I put them before myself and that's 1049 00:37:46,465 --> 00:37:47,163 them before myself and that's what a family man does. 1050 00:37:47,165 --> 00:37:52,502 What a family man does. >> chaz, he takes a life 1051 00:37:52,504 --> 00:37:56,906 >> chaz, he takes a life sentence without the 1052 00:37:56,908 --> 00:37:58,241 sentence without the possibility of parole. He will 1053 00:37:58,243 --> 00:37:58,942 possibility of parole. He will die behind bars in tdc. 1054 00:37:58,944 --> 00:38:03,713 Die behind bars in tdc. >> I would say that chaz 1055 00:38:03,715 --> 00:38:08,518 >> I would say that chaz blackshear and danielle hudson 1056 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,487 blackshear and danielle hudson were both just cold-blooded 1057 00:38:10,489 --> 00:38:11,821 were both just cold-blooded killers. They really don't care 1058 00:38:11,823 --> 00:38:12,956 killers. They really don't care about anybody who isn't part of 1059 00:38:12,958 --> 00:38:15,091 about anybody who isn't part of their immediate family or their 1060 00:38:15,093 --> 00:38:16,326 their immediate family or their inner circle. The cab drivers 1061 00:38:16,328 --> 00:38:19,629 inner circle. The cab drivers that they killed were nothing 1062 00:38:19,631 --> 00:38:20,263 that they killed were nothing and nobody to them. 1063 00:38:20,265 --> 00:38:23,133 And nobody to them. >> danielle had a child. And so 1064 00:38:23,135 --> 00:38:25,302 >> danielle had a child. And so potentially the motive behind 1065 00:38:25,304 --> 00:38:26,903 potentially the motive behind this was maybe they were trying 1066 00:38:26,905 --> 00:38:28,305 this was maybe they were trying to provide for the child. And 1067 00:38:28,307 --> 00:38:30,940 to provide for the child. And then it just kind of spiraled 1068 00:38:30,942 --> 00:38:31,508 then it just kind of spiraled out of control. 1069 00:38:31,510 --> 00:38:34,377 Out of control. >> would they have gone on to 1070 00:38:34,379 --> 00:38:35,745 >> would they have gone on to kill again? I'm convinced of 1071 00:38:35,747 --> 00:38:38,281 kill again? I'm convinced of it. How many more dead bodies 1072 00:38:38,283 --> 00:38:40,116 it. How many more dead bodies would there have been? Who 1073 00:38:40,118 --> 00:38:41,284 would there have been? Who knows? I was very grateful to 1074 00:38:41,286 --> 00:38:43,620 knows? I was very grateful to see that they were stopped 1075 00:38:43,622 --> 00:38:45,422 see that they were stopped before we could find that 1076 00:38:45,424 --> 00:38:47,557 before we could find that answer out. In either case, 1077 00:38:47,559 --> 00:38:51,961 answer out. In either case, society lost two people who 1078 00:38:51,963 --> 00:38:54,097 society lost two people who were family men, who loved 1079 00:38:54,099 --> 00:38:55,598 were family men, who loved their children, who needed to 1080 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,101 their children, who needed to be treated with dignity in life, 1081 00:38:58,103 --> 00:38:59,803 be treated with dignity in life, and certainly were not treated 1082 00:38:59,805 --> 00:39:01,771 and certainly were not treated with dignity in death by these 1083 00:39:01,773 --> 00:39:05,342 with dignity in death by these two crooks. 1084 00:39:05,344 --> 00:39:05,675 Two crooks. 105643

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