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And that will do it for
the headlines for the 9:00 hour.
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We will see you back here at 9:30.
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For New York News 3, I'm Allison Rojas.
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And we're out.
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- Nice broadcast.
- Thanks.
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That new shade of lipstick,
that looks great on camera.
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Who would send me
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a birthday card
two months before my birthday?
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Okay, this is not funny.
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- Oh, no. It's in your hair.
- It's everywhere.
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I have to be back on the air
in 23 and a half minutes.
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No, I'll get-get, uh,
wardrobe and makeup.
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Hurry.
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Yesterday morning,
my wife... she woke up achy, nauseous.
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She had a bit of a fever,
said her chest hurt.
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We thought it was the flu.
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But then, today,
she started coughing up blood.
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Attendant,
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- let's get her to Room One.
- Yes, Doctor.
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Let's page Dr. Farmer and the chief,
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and then alert the Health
Department and the CDC.
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The-the CDC?
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Center for Disease Control?
What's going on?
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Government buildings
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remain closed and subway ridership
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is at its lowest level since 9/11
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as anthrax terror grips Manhattan.
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A quiet panic has descended on the city
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as New Yorkers are trying
to figure out who's behind this
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and when it will end.
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At this hour,
the death toll remains at two.
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The deceased are Katie Connors,
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who opened a birthday card
addressed to her husband,
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Manhattan Congressman Peter Connors,
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and Emmanuel Bakry, the postal
worker who delivered it.
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But, finally, some good news.
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News 3's Allison Rojas
is responding to treatment
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after opening an anthrax-laden
greeting card
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in this very studio more than a week ago.
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Doctors expect her and the four
other News 3 staffers
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who were taken ill
to make a full recovery.
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Folks, we're about to roll,
so I need quiet.
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Five, four,
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three, two...
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Good afternoon from ground zero.
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Here in Manhattan we're all
collectively holding our breath,
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waiting for the next
anthrax-laden shoe to drop.
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With that thought in mind,
we thought we'd pay a visit
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to Hudson University, which is
one of the foremost laboratories
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for the study of chemical
weapons and bio-pathogens.
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We wanted to talk
with Dr. Roger Simpkins,
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a microbiologist and researcher
who runs this lab,
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which is financed
in a combination of funding
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from the university and the government.
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Dr. Simpkins, any words of wisdom
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or homespun advice
for our viewers tuning in,
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missing work and school,
doing everything they can
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to keep themselves
from becoming a victim,
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falling ill, possibly even dying?
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The thing we all need to remember
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is that anthrax is not a virus.
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It's a bacteria, and that means
you can't catch it.
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It can't be transmitted
from person-to-person,
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so if you don't have
direct contact with it,
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it poses no threat to you.
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So calm down.
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A-And I've been told that
even if you do have direct contact,
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it's still not necessarily fatal.
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Absolutely true.
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If anthrax is identified early,
it can be treated.
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What makes it tricky
is early anthrax symptoms
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look just like the flu.
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So unless your doctor knows
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that you've actually had contact with it,
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the disease can go undetected
until the drugs we use
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to cure it are no longer effective.
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But it's been nearly 20 years
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since the last round
of anthrax incidents.
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How is it there's still
no cure for this stuff?
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Well, ironically,
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uh, last year at this time,
my, uh, colleagues and I
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were in the process of developing
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some very promising new
late-stage anthrax treatments.
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Wait.
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"Were"?
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Well, our funding, particularly
with regard to anthrax research,
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comes from the federal government.
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And they pulled way back this year.
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What can I tell you?
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Go write your congressman.
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The FBI is in my office. _
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They've determined that the anthrax used
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in all these recent attacks
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comes from our labs.
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They want to talk to the three of you.
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What did you do? Get a second job?
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Aren't you afraid of dogs?
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Other postal workers going postal?
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Not funny. It's just my mail
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for the last couple of weeks.
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I made the post office hold it for me.
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Once I found out the FBI
arrested the anthrax killer,
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I figured it was finally safe
to pick it up
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and sort through it all.
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Won't be needing that anymore.
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Bull in his office?
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I'm in the middle
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of some very important procrastination.
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Hey. Sorry to interrupt.
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Why are you so glum, Mr. Col�n?
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Haven't you heard?
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It's a glorious day in New York.
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Spring has sprung,
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Easter's barely a month away,
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and the anthrax killer
is off the streets.
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We can put this whole
dark chapter behind us.
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Well, actually, no, we can't.
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What does that mean?
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You remember, a couple
of years ago, we signed up
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to be a part of that program
where private firms offer
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their services
to the public defender's office?
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No. I got nothing on that.
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Must have been trying to get
into somebody's good graces.
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What's the difference? We offered,
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and this morning they called.
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Natalie Reznick, the accused
anthrax killer, is facing
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two counts of capital murder
and a slew of other charges.
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Well, she needs a defense team,
and we're one of the few firms
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in the city with the expertise
to handle that type of case.
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Well, just call 'em back and tell 'em no.
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I have a newborn child and you have...
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Just say that
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we really appreciate the offer,
but we are not interested
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in representing a terrorist at this time.
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An accused terrorist.
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I think you're missing the point.
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The federal defender's office
wasn't asking
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when they called me this morning.
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They were telling.
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It's our case, Bull.
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Happy spring.
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I have no idea why I'm here.
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Surely you heard the FBI agent
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read you the charges before
he took you into custody.
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You're being charged with
murdering two people
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with a Tier 1 federal
select biological agent
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and terrorizing the city of New York.
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Yes, of course, but wh-why would
they think I would do that?
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Well, the evidence against you
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will be laid out at your arraignment,
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but based on the charging documents,
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the FBI has a pretty strong case.
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How is that possible?
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Well, when the funding
for your anthrax research
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was cut last year,
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you sent out dozens of e-mails.
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To journalists, to politicians.
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The very people who've been
the targets in these attacks.
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Well, y-yes, b-but that's...
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that's just a coincidence.
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The-the letters that I was
writing were about
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how shortsighted and dangerous
it was to cut that funding.
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Just because anthrax was
out of the news did not mean
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that it was no longer a risk
to national security.
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Well, the U.S. Attorney's Office
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suspects that when your warnings
fell on deaf ears,
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you orchestrated these attacks
to prove a point.
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"Anthrax is still out there.
It's still lethal."
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That's absurd. I am a doctor,
I am a scientist.
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The work that my team was doing
was about saving lives.
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How on earth would killing people
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help us achieve that goal?
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If that's all they had,
I'd agree with you.
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Are you aware that your office
had been bleached
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before the FBI searched it?
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Yes.
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Bleach is a disinfectant.
I work with pathogens.
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But yours was the only office
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in the complex to have been so recently
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and thoroughly bleached.
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Bleach kills anthrax.
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It makes it appear as if
you were destroying evidence.
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Your apartment had been bleached, too.
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And investigators found a stash
of the antibiotic ciprofloxacin
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and a box of N95 face
masks in your kitchen.
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They suspect you used both
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when you assembled the
anthrax-laden birthday cards.
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I mean, the masks were... I...
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I was gonna paint my bathroom.
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And I go on a medical mission every year.
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This year, it's Cambodia.
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Last year, it was Honduras,
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Guadalupe.
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Anyway, my doctor gives me cipro
before I go every year.
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I meant what I said.
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I have no idea why I'm here.
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I believe the woman.
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I mean, she says she has no idea
what she's doing behind bars.
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I believe her.
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Okay. Well, that makes two of you.
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Unfortunately, the government
sees it all quite differently.
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Yeah, government. You ever heard
of detective myopia?
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Detective myopia?
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No. Can't say that I have.
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It is when law enforcement,
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usually because of extreme
public or political pressure,
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picks a suspect and then
evaluates all the evidence
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with the predisposition
that that suspect is guilty.
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And they stop looking for other suspects,
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they stop running down leads
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that don't back up
their predetermined theories.
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All their work goes into proving
that their suspect,
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the person they picked
at random is guilty.
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City's in a panic.
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FBI needs to restore calm.
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Natalie presented as someone
with access to the bacteria
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and an apparent motive,
so they combed through her life
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looking for ways to prove she did it.
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Detective myopia.
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I think we need to argue
for a change of venue.
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Well... I know legal strategy
isn't exactly
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my area of expertise,
but I have been going through
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the potential jury lists,
and, well, given the panic
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and all of the publicity
around this case,
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wouldn't we be likely to get
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a more impartial jury somewhere else?
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Somewhere that hasn't been
through as much as New York has?
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That's not a bad thought, actually.
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You know, the problem is,
it's next to impossible
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to get a change of venue
in a federal criminal case.
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I'm just worried.
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No matter how I look at the data,
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I just don't know how
we're gonna seat a jury
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that can look past their own fears.
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That's why we shouldn't try.
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In fact, we should do just the opposite.
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We should scare the living
daylights out of 'em.
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People are predisposed
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to convicting Natalie
because they want to believe
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that the danger has passed.
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So what we need to do
is convince the jury...
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that it hasn't.
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Anybody remember the last time
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we had a series of anthrax attacks?
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It was right after 9/11, wasn't it?
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Yes, yes. Very good.
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And do you remember how long
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it took for them to find the perpetrator?
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Uh...
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I seem to recall it was pretty quick.
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Indeed it was.
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Attorney General John Ashcroft
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publicly named former biodefense
researcher Steven Jay Hatfill
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as a person of interest in the attacks.
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FBI tapped his phone.
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He lost his job,
couldn't get another one.
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Almost committed suicide.
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Then, in 2008,
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everyone suddenly realized
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that they were persecuting the wrong man.
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So here's my question to you.
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How many of you folks believe
that, of course,
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with all the best intentions
in the world,
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people whose job it is
to root out the bad guys
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sometimes get it wrong?
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Now we're getting somewhere.
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Means, motive and opportunity...
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They must feel they have it,
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or they wouldn't have brought the case.
273
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For those of us
who didn't go to law school,
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what does "means" mean again?
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It means she could do it;
she had the tools necessary.
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In this case, anthrax.
She worked at a place
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where anthrax was readily available.
278
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Yeah, but there's more to it than that.
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Every expert I've spoken with
said the same thing.
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Researchers work with wet anthrax spores.
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To make a-a powder that
can be sent in the mail,
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you have to use dry anthrax spores,
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and in order to dry them,
you have to use a very specific,
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very large piece of equipment
built just for that purpose.
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Which, of course, they have at the lab?
286
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Which, of course, they have at the lab.
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But all of that takes time.
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Stealing the anthrax. Drying the anthrax.
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I've skimmed over this
grand jury transcript
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three times...
I've yet to see an explanation
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for when Natalie
would have been able to do that
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without raising suspicion.
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Obviously, they are saving their
biggest surprises for trial.
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I'll give you another one.
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So, the FBI was able to determine
that all the anthrax letters
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were mailed from this mailbox
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within a specific eight-hour period.
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Really?
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Well, since I'm the only one here
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who hasn't worked for Homeland or FBI,
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can someone tell me how they do that?
302
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When you drop a letter
into a government mailbox,
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it goes into a bin that's
location-specific and time-coded.
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When that bin is carried back
to the general post office
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for processing
and your letter is postmarked,
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it carries all that information with it.
307
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Wow. That's really cool.
308
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And more than a little scary.
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Back to the pictures.
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All right, so, the FBI
examined security footage
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from area cameras taken
during the same time frame.
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They were able to eliminate
all but three people
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who mailed letters during that period.
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Wha...? And how were they able
to do that?
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How could they tell
from these... grainy photos
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who's mailing anthrax and who isn't?
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Well, I can't be sure,
but my suspicion is,
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what they really did
319
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was basically eliminate everyone
who didn't look like Natalie.
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There is your detective myopia
that Bull keeps talking about.
321
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And that left them with three
people who did look like Natalie?
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Well, it left them with three people,
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like this person here.
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Or this person here.
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Or this person here.
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People who don't really look
like anyone in particular.
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At least not as far as I can tell.
328
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So what am I gonna tell Bull?
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Opening arguments, testimony
start tomorrow morning.
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What in the world am I gonna tell Bull?
331
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Tell him that Danny and I
are putting together dossiers
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on everyone Natalie works with, and...
333
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That our strategy hasn't changed.
334
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To get the jury and the public
to let go of the idea
335
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that Natalie is the mastermind
behind these attacks,
336
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we have to... come up
with another credible suspect.
337
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And we will.
338
00:14:51,007 --> 00:14:54,004
Now, Dr. Poulson, as a researcher
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in the Medical Countermeasures Unit
340
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at Hudson University Laboratories,
341
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you frequently work shoulder-to-shoulder
with Natalie Reznick,
342
00:15:01,148 --> 00:15:03,224
- don't you?
- Yes, I do.
343
00:15:03,248 --> 00:15:07,434
Now, it's against the lab's
standard operating procedures
344
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for anyone to work alone?
345
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- That's correct, yes.
- And to your knowledge,
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00:15:11,697 --> 00:15:14,904
Dr. Poulson, did Dr. Reznick
347
00:15:14,928 --> 00:15:19,035
ever simply disregard this tenet
of standard operating procedure?
348
00:15:20,244 --> 00:15:23,144
Yes, I believe she may have. Once.
349
00:15:23,168 --> 00:15:25,414
About a week before the attacks.
350
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You're referring to the evening
351
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- of the 11th?
- I don't know what he's talking about.
352
00:15:29,382 --> 00:15:31,754
It was late. We were
the only two people in the lab.
353
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And at around 7:00 p.m., I got summoned
354
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to the chancellor's office
for a call with D.C.
355
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Much of the work we do at our labs
356
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is in partnership with
the Department of Defense,
357
00:15:44,377 --> 00:15:47,604
so when they say jump, we jump.
358
00:15:48,564 --> 00:15:50,765
And I told Natalie to...
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clean up and that we
would finish up another day.
360
00:15:54,946 --> 00:15:56,864
So I left her unattended.
361
00:15:57,865 --> 00:16:01,527
Which, as the senior researcher,
I shouldn't have done.
362
00:16:01,552 --> 00:16:04,948
But she assured me that she
would just take a few minutes
363
00:16:04,972 --> 00:16:07,472
- and then she would leave.
- Just to be clear.
364
00:16:08,052 --> 00:16:10,644
Your expectation was that Dr. Reznick
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would take five, maybe ten minutes
366
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to clean up the lab and then leave.
367
00:16:13,964 --> 00:16:14,990
Correct?
368
00:16:15,458 --> 00:16:17,394
That was my assumption, yes.
369
00:16:17,593 --> 00:16:19,434
Dr. Poulson...
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00:16:19,458 --> 00:16:22,064
this is a single frame
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from security footage taken
from the night in question.
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It shows someone leaving the
laboratory complex at Hudson.
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00:16:28,860 --> 00:16:30,632
Can you identify that person?
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00:16:30,656 --> 00:16:33,424
- It's Dr. Reznick.
- And could you read
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00:16:33,448 --> 00:16:35,736
the time stamp
on the photo for us, please?
376
00:16:36,148 --> 00:16:38,239
9:26 p.m.
377
00:16:38,581 --> 00:16:40,767
9:26 p.m.
378
00:16:41,478 --> 00:16:45,584
Two and a half hours
after you left the lab, correct?
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00:16:45,608 --> 00:16:46,884
Yes.
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00:16:46,908 --> 00:16:48,134
Dr. Poulson,
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in your professional opinion,
if Dr. Reznick had been alone
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00:16:51,683 --> 00:16:53,884
in that lab, not just
for a few minutes to clean up,
383
00:16:53,908 --> 00:16:57,224
but for several hours, would
that have given her enough time
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00:16:57,248 --> 00:17:00,394
to dry the anthrax spores into a powder
385
00:17:00,418 --> 00:17:02,215
and sneak them out of the lab?
386
00:17:02,239 --> 00:17:05,428
Objection, Your Honor!
Calls for speculation.
387
00:17:05,452 --> 00:17:08,444
Your Honor,
Dr. Poulson is a microbiologist.
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00:17:08,468 --> 00:17:11,444
I'm simply asking him
for his professional opinion.
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Objection overruled.
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00:17:13,045 --> 00:17:15,026
I'll allow him to answer.
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I believe it would have, yes.
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00:17:19,308 --> 00:17:21,126
No further questions
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00:17:21,151 --> 00:17:22,575
for now, Your Honor.
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00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:31,751
Dr. Poulson.
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00:17:32,528 --> 00:17:34,544
Really appreciate you being here today.
396
00:17:34,569 --> 00:17:37,474
Now, I know we've heard
a lot of speculation
397
00:17:37,498 --> 00:17:40,434
about what might have happened,
what could have happened,
398
00:17:40,458 --> 00:17:43,274
but you are a scientist.
399
00:17:43,298 --> 00:17:46,518
You deal with the physical
facts of the world.
400
00:17:46,542 --> 00:17:48,976
So let's get back to that.
401
00:17:49,810 --> 00:17:51,364
Do you have any proof
402
00:17:51,388 --> 00:17:54,444
that Dr. Reznick stayed in the lab alone
403
00:17:54,468 --> 00:17:56,942
any longer than she told you she would?
404
00:17:57,290 --> 00:17:59,378
Well, based on the time stamp...
405
00:17:59,388 --> 00:18:02,664
Oh, no, no. That time stamp only proves
406
00:18:02,688 --> 00:18:04,467
what time she left the building,
407
00:18:04,731 --> 00:18:08,167
which was two and a half hours
after you did.
408
00:18:08,358 --> 00:18:09,968
Nowhere does it indicate
409
00:18:09,993 --> 00:18:12,913
what time she left
the lab itself, does it?
410
00:18:14,328 --> 00:18:17,014
- No, it doesn't.
- Uh-huh.
411
00:18:17,039 --> 00:18:21,514
Now, Dr. Reznick maintains
she left the lab
412
00:18:21,538 --> 00:18:24,314
as promised and spent
the remainder of that time
413
00:18:24,338 --> 00:18:28,854
in her office typing a report
of the day's work.
414
00:18:28,878 --> 00:18:30,267
In fact...
415
00:18:30,928 --> 00:18:33,957
you reviewed that very report
the next morning, didn't you?
416
00:18:33,981 --> 00:18:35,513
It's quite possible.
417
00:18:35,537 --> 00:18:38,324
I often review the reports
from the previous night
418
00:18:38,348 --> 00:18:39,878
- the next morning.
- I see.
419
00:18:39,902 --> 00:18:44,045
And before the FBI informed you
that Dr. Reznick was a suspect,
420
00:18:44,069 --> 00:18:47,368
did you have any reason
to suspect her of this crime?
421
00:18:47,393 --> 00:18:48,773
No.
422
00:18:51,238 --> 00:18:54,644
I've always believed Natalie
to be trustworthy and...
423
00:18:54,668 --> 00:18:56,844
a passionate scientist.
424
00:18:56,868 --> 00:18:59,094
And I'm still inclined to believe so.
425
00:18:59,118 --> 00:19:00,787
I mean, hon...
426
00:19:00,811 --> 00:19:02,133
honestly...
427
00:19:02,924 --> 00:19:06,053
I hope the version of events
you just laid out is the truth.
428
00:19:07,418 --> 00:19:09,724
Thank you very much, Dr. Poulson.
429
00:19:10,357 --> 00:19:12,309
No further questions, Your Honor.
430
00:19:14,258 --> 00:19:15,428
Redirect?
431
00:19:16,928 --> 00:19:19,744
Regardless of what you might hope,
432
00:19:19,768 --> 00:19:21,277
Dr. Poulson,
433
00:19:21,574 --> 00:19:24,550
doesn't the fact remain
that a pathogen was stolen
434
00:19:24,575 --> 00:19:26,075
from your lab?
435
00:19:26,672 --> 00:19:27,692
Yes.
436
00:19:27,717 --> 00:19:29,927
And based on your own testimony,
437
00:19:29,952 --> 00:19:34,201
wouldn't you agree that Dr. Reznick
was the only researcher
438
00:19:34,225 --> 00:19:36,424
who could possibly have had
an opportunity
439
00:19:36,448 --> 00:19:38,451
- to do it?
- Asked and answered, Your Honor.
440
00:19:38,475 --> 00:19:40,504
Counsel is badgering the witness.
441
00:19:41,078 --> 00:19:43,376
I'll withdraw the question, Your Honor.
442
00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,404
How's the view from where you're sitting?
443
00:19:45,428 --> 00:19:49,555
The only good news is,
it can't get any worse.
444
00:19:59,294 --> 00:20:01,600
I'm awake. It's okay.
445
00:20:01,624 --> 00:20:04,440
Partying all
night with Astrid again, huh?
446
00:20:04,464 --> 00:20:05,624
Yeah.
447
00:20:07,794 --> 00:20:10,610
I was sitting in the living room
at 3:00 in the morning,
448
00:20:10,634 --> 00:20:13,820
little Astrid up on my shoulder.
I was trying to get a burp out of her.
449
00:20:13,844 --> 00:20:16,620
And I flip on the news,
and we're everywhere.
450
00:20:16,644 --> 00:20:18,660
- Mm-hmm.
- Every channel.
451
00:20:18,684 --> 00:20:21,450
And if it is our intention
to convince the jury
452
00:20:21,474 --> 00:20:24,120
that the real anthrax killer
is still out there,
453
00:20:24,144 --> 00:20:27,136
well, the national media
has not picked up on it.
454
00:20:27,381 --> 00:20:28,863
Which means...
455
00:20:29,697 --> 00:20:31,171
we're failing.
456
00:20:32,211 --> 00:20:34,397
Well, you don't know that.
457
00:20:34,421 --> 00:20:36,527
Our target's the jury, not cable news.
458
00:20:36,551 --> 00:20:38,247
But the world of cable news is the world
459
00:20:38,271 --> 00:20:39,969
these jurors go home to every night.
460
00:20:39,993 --> 00:20:43,247
And if the CNNs and the Foxes
and the CNBCs aren't buying
461
00:20:43,271 --> 00:20:45,037
our version of events, then neither
462
00:20:45,061 --> 00:20:47,949
are the jurors' families or neighbors.
463
00:20:48,481 --> 00:20:52,207
And we all know they're not
supposed to talk about the case
464
00:20:52,231 --> 00:20:54,537
or watch the news about it...
465
00:20:55,997 --> 00:20:57,467
but they do.
466
00:20:57,491 --> 00:21:00,895
I'm sorry, Bull, but I think
you're being a little premature.
467
00:21:00,919 --> 00:21:03,260
The prosecution is still
presenting their case,
468
00:21:03,284 --> 00:21:05,557
and we haven't even gotten our turn.
469
00:21:05,925 --> 00:21:08,557
I know. But we can't wait until then.
470
00:21:08,581 --> 00:21:10,727
We have to go on the offensive now.
471
00:21:10,751 --> 00:21:13,107
We got to use every objection,
every cross to hammer home
472
00:21:13,131 --> 00:21:16,777
how dangerous it will be
if the jury gets this one wrong.
473
00:21:16,801 --> 00:21:20,091
The killer is still out there.
474
00:21:21,074 --> 00:21:23,340
My wife, my-my wife Katie,
475
00:21:23,471 --> 00:21:26,497
she didn't aspire to a political life.
476
00:21:26,521 --> 00:21:28,268
I mean, heck,
when I met her in grad school,
477
00:21:28,292 --> 00:21:29,577
she didn't even read the paper.
478
00:21:29,601 --> 00:21:32,457
But then we fell in love,
and the next thing you know,
479
00:21:32,481 --> 00:21:36,217
I'm running for office and then
we're out there together
480
00:21:36,241 --> 00:21:38,082
on the campaign trail.
481
00:21:38,531 --> 00:21:40,376
Oh, she was a natural.
482
00:21:40,648 --> 00:21:42,714
I mean, she loved people.
483
00:21:42,739 --> 00:21:46,675
And people sensed it
and they loved her right back.
484
00:21:46,831 --> 00:21:50,937
You see, I take enormous pride
in being a congressman.
485
00:21:50,961 --> 00:21:52,977
But the thought that my job,
486
00:21:53,001 --> 00:21:55,202
that my commitment to public service
487
00:21:55,226 --> 00:22:00,188
somehow contributed to her d-death...
488
00:22:00,511 --> 00:22:02,861
It's all right, Congressman Connors.
489
00:22:02,885 --> 00:22:04,531
No further questions.
490
00:22:04,555 --> 00:22:07,259
Uh, Bull, it's not looking good here.
491
00:22:07,283 --> 00:22:09,787
This jury really feels
for the congressman.
492
00:22:09,811 --> 00:22:11,997
Of course they do. So do I.
493
00:22:12,021 --> 00:22:14,494
But that doesn't mean his pain
is Natalie's fault.
494
00:22:14,981 --> 00:22:16,704
Congressman Connors.
495
00:22:17,741 --> 00:22:21,887
I'd just like to say how profoundly
sorry I am for your loss.
496
00:22:21,911 --> 00:22:23,347
Thank you.
497
00:22:23,371 --> 00:22:25,597
Now, much has been made of the fact
498
00:22:25,621 --> 00:22:29,307
that you were a part
of a long list of legislators
499
00:22:29,331 --> 00:22:31,477
Dr. Reznick reached out to in the wake
500
00:22:31,501 --> 00:22:34,187
of a funding cut to her research program.
501
00:22:34,555 --> 00:22:37,357
Now, do you recall Dr. Reznick's
502
00:22:37,381 --> 00:22:40,527
message to you to be
threatening in any way?
503
00:22:40,551 --> 00:22:42,197
Honestly, I don't.
504
00:22:42,221 --> 00:22:47,037
You see, my staff filters my
e-mails, so I only learned about
505
00:22:47,061 --> 00:22:52,167
that message in the, in the
aftermath of my wife's passing.
506
00:22:52,191 --> 00:22:55,207
But, no, it did not appear
to be threatening.
507
00:22:55,231 --> 00:22:58,652
But I imagine your office must receive
508
00:22:58,676 --> 00:23:01,332
threatening e-mails from time to time?
509
00:23:01,524 --> 00:23:03,460
Yes, unfortunately, in my line of work,
510
00:23:03,485 --> 00:23:05,341
you have to make tough choices sometimes,
511
00:23:05,366 --> 00:23:07,012
choices that anger people,
512
00:23:07,037 --> 00:23:09,465
and occasionally
those people do lash out.
513
00:23:10,299 --> 00:23:14,397
How many threats would you
estimate that you've received
514
00:23:14,421 --> 00:23:17,227
in the seven years
that you've been in Congress?
515
00:23:17,251 --> 00:23:22,857
Uh, like I said, my staff
filters my communications,
516
00:23:22,881 --> 00:23:25,055
so there's really no way for me to know.
517
00:23:25,079 --> 00:23:28,237
Well, my office inquired.
518
00:23:28,261 --> 00:23:32,207
And according to your staff, it's 102.
519
00:23:33,441 --> 00:23:35,287
That's how many unique threats
520
00:23:35,311 --> 00:23:38,417
your office has received
in the past seven years.
521
00:23:38,441 --> 00:23:41,757
19 of those were death threats.
522
00:23:41,781 --> 00:23:43,927
So let me ask you,
523
00:23:43,951 --> 00:23:49,557
in the wake of these attacks,
to the best of your knowledge,
524
00:23:50,006 --> 00:23:54,307
did the FBI investigate those 19 people
525
00:23:54,331 --> 00:23:57,107
who previously threatened
to take your life?
526
00:23:57,131 --> 00:23:58,681
They may have.
527
00:23:59,317 --> 00:24:01,663
Honestly, I don't know.
528
00:24:01,961 --> 00:24:03,436
You don't know.
529
00:24:04,511 --> 00:24:08,277
Wow. That's kind of unsettling.
530
00:24:08,301 --> 00:24:11,057
I mean, did the FBI even ask you about
531
00:24:11,081 --> 00:24:15,417
anyone who possibly could have
had a vendetta against you
532
00:24:15,441 --> 00:24:17,127
during that time period?
533
00:24:17,617 --> 00:24:19,243
I don't know.
534
00:24:19,651 --> 00:24:23,837
Well, then I truly am sorry
for you, Congressman Connors.
535
00:24:23,861 --> 00:24:27,456
Not only for your tragic
loss, but also because,
536
00:24:27,457 --> 00:24:30,683
apparently, law enforcement
seems more interested
537
00:24:30,707 --> 00:24:33,393
in scapegoating Natalie Reznick
than it does
538
00:24:33,417 --> 00:24:36,352
in making sure your wife's
real killer is off the streets.
539
00:24:36,376 --> 00:24:39,483
Objection. Counsel is testifying.
540
00:24:39,507 --> 00:24:41,193
Sustained.
541
00:24:41,217 --> 00:24:44,483
The jury will disregard
the defense's last statement.
542
00:24:44,507 --> 00:24:46,323
Ask a question, Mr. Col�n.
543
00:24:46,347 --> 00:24:47,653
That's all right, Your Honor.
544
00:24:48,105 --> 00:24:50,291
I have no further questions at this time.
545
00:24:50,316 --> 00:24:51,583
I'm sure you can't see it yet,
546
00:24:51,607 --> 00:24:53,373
but it finally feels
like we're making progress.
547
00:24:53,397 --> 00:24:55,623
The government will
call its next witness, please.
548
00:24:55,647 --> 00:24:58,574
The government rests
its case, Your Honor.
549
00:24:58,817 --> 00:25:01,952
Then the defense will call
its first witness, please.
550
00:25:02,407 --> 00:25:05,213
My parents came to this country
before I was born.
551
00:25:05,237 --> 00:25:07,763
They were scientists in the Soviet Union,
552
00:25:07,787 --> 00:25:09,723
but they refused to toe the party line,
553
00:25:09,747 --> 00:25:11,893
so their lives were in danger.
554
00:25:11,917 --> 00:25:16,255
They fled and they found sanctuary
here, in America.
555
00:25:16,279 --> 00:25:18,233
And until the day they died,
556
00:25:18,257 --> 00:25:20,523
they never ceased
being grateful for that.
557
00:25:20,547 --> 00:25:23,653
And they raised me to be grateful, too.
558
00:25:24,475 --> 00:25:26,890
I decided when I was
559
00:25:26,914 --> 00:25:29,363
a very young girl that, when I grew up,
560
00:25:29,387 --> 00:25:31,363
I-I would help people somehow,
561
00:25:31,387 --> 00:25:33,243
protect people somehow.
562
00:25:34,235 --> 00:25:36,873
So, is that how you ended
up researching cures
563
00:25:36,897 --> 00:25:39,003
for deadly biological weapons?
564
00:25:39,865 --> 00:25:42,213
Uh, well, it was...
565
00:25:42,237 --> 00:25:44,383
It was part of it, sure.
566
00:25:44,407 --> 00:25:46,027
A love of science.
567
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,803
I don't know. It-it-it gives
me a sense of satisfaction,
568
00:25:50,827 --> 00:25:52,433
like I'm-I'm pulling my own weight,
569
00:25:52,457 --> 00:25:54,463
I'm doing my share.
570
00:25:54,917 --> 00:25:57,508
I am showing my gratitude.
571
00:25:57,747 --> 00:26:00,233
So the idea that you would hurt
572
00:26:00,257 --> 00:26:04,352
or kill fellow Americans
for your own personal gain...
573
00:26:04,376 --> 00:26:05,725
Is absurd.
574
00:26:06,517 --> 00:26:08,233
To do the work that I do,
575
00:26:08,257 --> 00:26:10,573
you have... You have to become a doctor.
576
00:26:10,597 --> 00:26:12,732
I'm-I'm a doctor.
577
00:26:13,227 --> 00:26:15,243
I took an oath to save lives.
578
00:26:15,267 --> 00:26:18,913
Why would I knowingly set out
to hurt anyone?
579
00:26:18,937 --> 00:26:21,323
Kill anyone?
580
00:26:21,737 --> 00:26:23,423
Thank you, Dr. Reznick.
581
00:26:23,447 --> 00:26:25,793
No further questions, Your Honor.
582
00:26:25,817 --> 00:26:28,593
They look engaged to me, receptive.
583
00:26:28,617 --> 00:26:30,053
Open body language.
584
00:26:30,077 --> 00:26:32,093
A couple jurors are starting to lean in.
585
00:26:32,117 --> 00:26:33,817
Does that line up
with what you're seeing?
586
00:26:33,841 --> 00:26:35,024
Sure does.
587
00:26:35,048 --> 00:26:36,973
They're starting
to find Natalie credible,
588
00:26:36,997 --> 00:26:40,103
and a few of them
are now firmly on her side.
589
00:26:40,551 --> 00:26:41,933
So,
590
00:26:41,957 --> 00:26:43,773
Dr. Reznick,
591
00:26:44,096 --> 00:26:45,603
the pleasure you take from your work
592
00:26:45,627 --> 00:26:49,323
is fundamentally altruistic, right?
593
00:26:49,347 --> 00:26:52,443
I mean, you want to pull your own weight.
594
00:26:52,467 --> 00:26:55,283
You want to do your share.
595
00:26:55,307 --> 00:26:59,083
And, most of all,
you want to help people, huh?
596
00:26:59,107 --> 00:27:00,583
Protect people.
597
00:27:00,607 --> 00:27:03,163
This is what you just testified
to, correct?
598
00:27:04,033 --> 00:27:05,108
Yes.
599
00:27:05,132 --> 00:27:06,633
And you would never want to hurt anyone.
600
00:27:06,657 --> 00:27:08,793
You certainly wouldn't want
to see anyone die.
601
00:27:08,817 --> 00:27:10,923
I mean, the work you do,
602
00:27:10,947 --> 00:27:13,548
your very reason for being,
603
00:27:13,572 --> 00:27:16,393
is all about saving lives.
604
00:27:16,417 --> 00:27:17,803
Is that correct?
605
00:27:17,827 --> 00:27:19,973
That is what I said, yes.
606
00:27:19,997 --> 00:27:21,183
Interesting.
607
00:27:21,592 --> 00:27:23,233
Because I have a video
608
00:27:23,257 --> 00:27:25,920
of an academic conference
you participated in,
609
00:27:25,944 --> 00:27:28,943
which would seem to suggest otherwise.
610
00:27:28,967 --> 00:27:30,653
Uh... Objection.
611
00:27:30,677 --> 00:27:32,693
Your Honor, this is the first
612
00:27:32,717 --> 00:27:35,006
the defense has heard of any video.
613
00:27:35,030 --> 00:27:36,863
- The AUSA knows...
- Your Honor, a concerned citizen
614
00:27:36,887 --> 00:27:38,823
- sent this video to our office...
- ...he has a duty to disclose
615
00:27:38,847 --> 00:27:39,957
- any and all...
- ...only just yesterday.
616
00:27:39,981 --> 00:27:42,293
Enough! Both of you.
617
00:27:42,590 --> 00:27:43,976
Mr. Reynolds,
618
00:27:44,114 --> 00:27:47,201
I'm gonna take you at
your word and allow this.
619
00:27:47,583 --> 00:27:50,229
Mr. Col�n, I will give you
ample time to prepare
620
00:27:50,254 --> 00:27:52,060
should you choose to redirect.
621
00:27:52,456 --> 00:27:54,126
Let's proceed.
622
00:27:55,117 --> 00:27:57,013
Is that you up there, Dr. Reznick,
623
00:27:57,037 --> 00:27:58,546
on the stage, in the video?
624
00:27:59,203 --> 00:28:00,276
It is. Yes.
625
00:28:00,300 --> 00:28:03,183
Do you recall when this video was taken?
626
00:28:03,551 --> 00:28:05,353
Um, I-I believe
627
00:28:05,377 --> 00:28:09,363
it was an ethics panel
at a microbiology conference
628
00:28:09,387 --> 00:28:12,363
about... ten years ago.
629
00:28:12,387 --> 00:28:14,144
I was still a postgrad.
630
00:28:15,938 --> 00:28:20,033
I have a hypothetical question
for you, Dr. Reznick.
631
00:28:20,057 --> 00:28:21,243
Okay.
632
00:28:21,267 --> 00:28:24,373
If an unknown deadly virus or bacteria
633
00:28:24,397 --> 00:28:26,873
were to infect an
isolated group of people,
634
00:28:26,897 --> 00:28:28,373
what, in your opinion,
635
00:28:28,397 --> 00:28:31,173
is the best course of action?
636
00:28:31,745 --> 00:28:33,213
Um, well, uh,
637
00:28:33,237 --> 00:28:38,013
if there was a chance to contain
the outbreak within that group,
638
00:28:38,037 --> 00:28:39,553
I'd say that the only choice
639
00:28:39,577 --> 00:28:42,813
is to quarantine the infected...
640
00:28:42,837 --> 00:28:44,393
Nobody in, nobody out...
641
00:28:44,417 --> 00:28:48,063
And then watch the, uh,
progression of the disease.
642
00:28:48,087 --> 00:28:49,903
Even if the disease were deadly?
643
00:28:49,927 --> 00:28:52,063
Well,
if you don't know what the pathogen is,
644
00:28:52,087 --> 00:28:54,613
treating the symptoms may be futile.
645
00:28:54,637 --> 00:28:57,953
You're going to have
to let in medical workers,
646
00:28:57,977 --> 00:29:00,594
and then, at some point, you're
going to have to let them back out,
647
00:29:00,618 --> 00:29:02,373
and they very well may carry
648
00:29:02,397 --> 00:29:04,373
whatever it is to the general population.
649
00:29:04,397 --> 00:29:06,701
So, yeah,
650
00:29:06,725 --> 00:29:08,003
harsh as it sounds,
651
00:29:08,365 --> 00:29:09,992
quarantine.
652
00:29:10,777 --> 00:29:12,083
Because, unfortunately,
653
00:29:12,107 --> 00:29:16,213
sometimes five have to die to save 5,000.
654
00:29:24,079 --> 00:29:28,709
"Sometimes five have to die
to save 5,000."
655
00:29:32,467 --> 00:29:35,653
Is that why you sent the anthrax
through the mail, Dr. Reznick?
656
00:29:35,677 --> 00:29:39,651
Because you thought it
would be okay to kill two
657
00:29:39,675 --> 00:29:41,913
if it meant recovering the funds
658
00:29:41,937 --> 00:29:44,283
that you needed in order to find a cure?
659
00:29:44,307 --> 00:29:46,123
Objection.
660
00:29:46,147 --> 00:29:47,293
Facts not in evidence.
661
00:29:47,317 --> 00:29:48,793
Speculation.
662
00:29:48,817 --> 00:29:50,003
Badgering.
663
00:29:50,027 --> 00:29:51,293
Should I go on?
664
00:29:51,317 --> 00:29:53,003
Of course not.
665
00:29:53,027 --> 00:29:55,293
That is part of a larger conversation.
666
00:29:55,317 --> 00:29:57,253
You lifted that out of context.
667
00:29:57,277 --> 00:29:59,093
- Dr. Reznick.
- And organically contracting
668
00:29:59,117 --> 00:30:00,923
a disease is fundamentally different
669
00:30:00,947 --> 00:30:03,471
- than intentionally infecting someone.
- Dr. Reznick.
670
00:30:03,495 --> 00:30:04,803
Dr. Reznick.
671
00:30:04,827 --> 00:30:08,103
Your attorney was making
an objection on your behalf.
672
00:30:08,127 --> 00:30:11,590
In the future,
when an attorney makes an objection,
673
00:30:11,614 --> 00:30:14,770
please refrain from answering
until I've rendered my decision
674
00:30:14,794 --> 00:30:15,983
on the objection.
675
00:30:16,433 --> 00:30:19,823
I will let the witness's
statement remain in the record.
676
00:30:19,847 --> 00:30:23,248
Let's take a ten-minute break
and allow everyone to cool down.
677
00:30:23,273 --> 00:30:24,719
- The witness will remain...
- How's this playing where you are?
678
00:30:24,743 --> 00:30:25,773
Not terribly well.
679
00:30:25,797 --> 00:30:27,493
I'm afraid we lost all our greens, Bull.
680
00:30:27,517 --> 00:30:30,552
We will continue her
testimony at that time.
681
00:30:33,100 --> 00:30:35,368
- So, how was dinner?
- Not great.
682
00:30:35,392 --> 00:30:36,753
I wasn't hungry. I'd been eating
683
00:30:36,777 --> 00:30:38,512
my small intestine all afternoon.
684
00:30:38,537 --> 00:30:39,973
I promise you,
685
00:30:39,997 --> 00:30:42,353
it was as difficult
to listen to over here
686
00:30:42,377 --> 00:30:47,023
as I'm sure it was
for you to witness in person.
687
00:30:47,047 --> 00:30:48,863
The problem is, was,
688
00:30:48,887 --> 00:30:51,073
and continues to be
we've presented the jury
689
00:30:51,097 --> 00:30:52,993
with no real alternatives to our client.
690
00:30:53,017 --> 00:30:55,073
We keep insisting
it must be someone else, but...
691
00:30:55,097 --> 00:30:57,323
- we never say who.
- Yeah.
692
00:30:57,347 --> 00:30:59,873
Bull's hitting the nail
on the head, Marissa.
693
00:30:59,897 --> 00:31:02,203
Every time I feel like
we're making progress,
694
00:31:02,227 --> 00:31:05,173
every time I feel a hint
of traction with this jury,
695
00:31:05,197 --> 00:31:06,463
it all slips away.
696
00:31:06,487 --> 00:31:09,515
That's because they have no one
else to consider but Natalie.
697
00:31:09,539 --> 00:31:12,133
I hear you. And all
I can tell you is that...
698
00:31:12,157 --> 00:31:14,173
Danny, Chunk, and Taylor...
699
00:31:14,197 --> 00:31:16,343
Who is standing right next to me...
700
00:31:16,868 --> 00:31:18,933
They're all beating the bushes,
701
00:31:18,957 --> 00:31:21,723
trying to find someone who could
have plausibly pulled this off.
702
00:31:21,747 --> 00:31:23,353
Dr. Bull, did you get a chance
703
00:31:23,377 --> 00:31:25,193
to go through those dossiers
I prepared for you?
704
00:31:25,217 --> 00:31:28,233
There's material there on
almost 50 lab employees,
705
00:31:28,257 --> 00:31:30,193
all of whom have access to anthrax.
706
00:31:30,217 --> 00:31:33,033
I'm getting through them
as fast as I can, Taylor.
707
00:31:33,057 --> 00:31:35,559
But it's not as if anyone
flagged one of the employees
708
00:31:35,583 --> 00:31:38,625
and said, "Here's a plausible suspect."
709
00:31:38,649 --> 00:31:40,163
Come on, Bull. We are all pulling
710
00:31:40,187 --> 00:31:41,703
on the same end of the rope here.
711
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,333
What? The hell was that?
712
00:31:45,357 --> 00:31:47,237
What's going on over there?
713
00:31:55,247 --> 00:31:57,195
Uh...
714
00:31:57,219 --> 00:31:59,393
is it... safe out here?
715
00:31:59,417 --> 00:32:01,053
Absolutely.
716
00:32:01,454 --> 00:32:03,223
My name is, uh, Jason Bull.
717
00:32:03,247 --> 00:32:05,183
This is my place of business.
718
00:32:05,207 --> 00:32:07,063
I have two employees inside.
719
00:32:07,087 --> 00:32:10,313
Do you have any sense of when
they'll be able to come out?
720
00:32:10,337 --> 00:32:13,073
They will be able to come out
at some point, right?
721
00:32:13,097 --> 00:32:14,903
It's gonna be quite a while.
722
00:32:14,927 --> 00:32:16,783
You might want to give them a call.
723
00:32:19,307 --> 00:32:20,783
How you guys feeling?
724
00:32:20,807 --> 00:32:23,203
At the moment? Absolutely fine.
725
00:32:23,227 --> 00:32:25,203
A little hungry.
726
00:32:25,227 --> 00:32:26,413
He asked.
727
00:32:26,437 --> 00:32:28,083
We can't eat anything from the kitchen.
728
00:32:28,107 --> 00:32:30,253
Can't eat anything until
they give us the all clear
729
00:32:30,277 --> 00:32:31,329
and we can get out of here.
730
00:32:31,353 --> 00:32:33,593
We are gonna be fine. They've
loaded us up with antibiotics.
731
00:32:33,617 --> 00:32:34,593
I think it's primarily
732
00:32:34,617 --> 00:32:37,093
about waiting for lab results
at this point.
733
00:32:37,117 --> 00:32:39,593
Marissa, Taylor, I'm so sorry
you're going through this.
734
00:32:39,617 --> 00:32:40,763
They give you
735
00:32:40,787 --> 00:32:42,393
any ETA on these tests?
736
00:32:42,417 --> 00:32:45,223
Uh, they've estimated
another three hours or so.
737
00:32:45,247 --> 00:32:48,063
Taylor, do you need us
to swing by your place
738
00:32:48,087 --> 00:32:49,103
and pick up your son?
739
00:32:49,127 --> 00:32:50,943
Nope. He's at his dad's.
740
00:32:50,967 --> 00:32:52,023
Thank goodness.
741
00:32:52,047 --> 00:32:54,943
Hey, uh, guys, there's nothing
for you to do here.
742
00:32:54,967 --> 00:32:56,613
Why don't you just head home?
743
00:32:56,637 --> 00:32:59,573
Bull, I will text you as soon
as they tell us anything.
744
00:32:59,597 --> 00:33:01,493
As soon as they let us out of here.
745
00:33:01,517 --> 00:33:03,283
Are you sure? I mean,
746
00:33:03,307 --> 00:33:05,293
I'm happy to stick around.
747
00:33:05,317 --> 00:33:06,686
We're good.
748
00:33:07,147 --> 00:33:09,293
- We've got each other.
- Okay.
749
00:33:09,317 --> 00:33:11,293
Then I am going to go home,
750
00:33:12,149 --> 00:33:14,293
kiss my baby,
751
00:33:14,568 --> 00:33:16,537
and read some dossiers.
752
00:33:19,157 --> 00:33:21,303
Would you think I was a terrible person
753
00:33:21,327 --> 00:33:22,763
if I told you that,
754
00:33:22,787 --> 00:33:25,143
as horrible as this must be
for Marissa and Taylor,
755
00:33:25,167 --> 00:33:27,667
there's potentially a big upside to it?
756
00:33:28,667 --> 00:33:29,853
Oh, thank God.
757
00:33:29,877 --> 00:33:33,193
I thought I was the only one
whose mind worked that way.
758
00:33:33,217 --> 00:33:35,233
Natalie's in jail.
759
00:33:35,257 --> 00:33:37,363
So she couldn't have done it.
760
00:33:37,387 --> 00:33:39,153
If the FBI and the CDC confirm
761
00:33:39,177 --> 00:33:42,323
that the handwriting is the same
on the letter we got at TAC
762
00:33:42,347 --> 00:33:44,073
as on the envelopes that went out
763
00:33:44,097 --> 00:33:45,485
to the congressman and the newscaster...
764
00:33:45,509 --> 00:33:47,833
And that the construction of the gizmo
765
00:33:47,857 --> 00:33:51,253
that makes sure the anthrax
makes contact with the person
766
00:33:51,277 --> 00:33:52,317
is similar...
767
00:33:54,108 --> 00:33:56,713
I think our client is free and clear.
768
00:33:57,403 --> 00:34:00,593
I'll make sure to keep
all my digits crossed.
769
00:34:08,497 --> 00:34:09,957
Hello?
770
00:34:10,667 --> 00:34:12,193
Marissa.
771
00:34:12,543 --> 00:34:14,378
Tell me what's going on.
772
00:34:16,547 --> 00:34:18,257
On your way home?
773
00:34:19,057 --> 00:34:20,993
Uh, that's great.
774
00:34:21,017 --> 00:34:22,720
Great to hear.
775
00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:26,783
Really?
776
00:34:26,807 --> 00:34:29,147
They certain of that? Powdered sugar?
777
00:34:31,896 --> 00:34:34,253
Yeah, that is funny.
778
00:34:34,277 --> 00:34:36,463
If Taylor had only licked her fingers,
779
00:34:36,487 --> 00:34:38,444
she wouldn't have been hungry anymore.
780
00:34:39,737 --> 00:34:42,263
Well, the two of you
get something to eat,
781
00:34:42,287 --> 00:34:45,263
get some sleep,
and I'll see you in the morning.
782
00:34:45,576 --> 00:34:47,053
Night.
783
00:34:51,417 --> 00:34:54,063
You have no idea how happy I am
784
00:34:54,087 --> 00:34:57,193
to be standing here, talking to you.
785
00:34:57,588 --> 00:35:01,193
You have no idea
how happy I am to be talked to.
786
00:35:01,217 --> 00:35:02,243
Mm.
787
00:35:02,267 --> 00:35:03,823
Just a copycat.
788
00:35:03,847 --> 00:35:07,123
Copycat with powdered sugar
trying to intimidate us.
789
00:35:07,147 --> 00:35:09,453
Somebody who'd watched the news
and convinced themselves
790
00:35:09,477 --> 00:35:11,293
that Natalie is a murderer
791
00:35:11,317 --> 00:35:13,543
and that we're the bad guys
just doing whatever we can
792
00:35:13,567 --> 00:35:15,583
- to help her evade the law.
- Well,
793
00:35:16,238 --> 00:35:18,699
I went through the rest of the
dossiers early this morning,
794
00:35:18,723 --> 00:35:21,343
and I found one that ticked
a lot of boxes for me.
795
00:35:21,780 --> 00:35:22,926
Really?
796
00:35:23,114 --> 00:35:25,553
What if I told you that one
of the employees at Hudson
797
00:35:25,577 --> 00:35:28,530
served as a medic
during the first Gulf War?
798
00:35:29,286 --> 00:35:32,473
Okay. And that's meaningful because...?
799
00:35:32,497 --> 00:35:35,339
Because it means
they have firsthand knowledge
800
00:35:35,363 --> 00:35:38,653
of the devastation biological
and chemical weapons cause.
801
00:35:39,630 --> 00:35:41,783
No offense, but that
hardly seems like enough
802
00:35:41,807 --> 00:35:43,823
to get a jury to change its mind.
803
00:35:44,296 --> 00:35:47,112
What if I told you this person
was stationed in territory
804
00:35:47,136 --> 00:35:50,902
where Saddam Hussein was waging
chemical and biological warfare
805
00:35:50,926 --> 00:35:53,691
against a large swath of civilians?
806
00:35:53,715 --> 00:35:57,072
Still kind of feels like we're
making some big leaps here,
807
00:35:57,096 --> 00:35:58,242
don't you think?
808
00:35:59,108 --> 00:36:00,662
I don't know.
809
00:36:01,402 --> 00:36:04,082
Why does someone dedicate their
life to finding an antidote
810
00:36:04,106 --> 00:36:05,922
to something like anthrax?
811
00:36:05,946 --> 00:36:08,252
We know why Natalie did it.
812
00:36:08,276 --> 00:36:12,196
She felt... a sense of
obligation to her country.
813
00:36:14,290 --> 00:36:16,342
So, what if this person did it
814
00:36:16,366 --> 00:36:18,142
because they keenly understood
815
00:36:18,166 --> 00:36:21,772
that biological weapons were an
imminent threat to the homeland?
816
00:36:21,796 --> 00:36:25,312
So, when Congress cut
their funding for the research,
817
00:36:25,336 --> 00:36:28,062
they took matters into their own hands
818
00:36:28,086 --> 00:36:30,579
and decided the one or two deaths
819
00:36:30,604 --> 00:36:32,782
necessary to seize the
public's imagination
820
00:36:32,806 --> 00:36:36,782
were a fair trade if it helped
prevent a greater harm.
821
00:36:36,806 --> 00:36:40,162
So, you're saying the FBI
had the right motive...
822
00:36:40,186 --> 00:36:43,066
Just pegged the wrong person.
823
00:36:44,476 --> 00:36:47,082
Who is this person?
824
00:36:47,106 --> 00:36:48,922
Roger Simpkins?
825
00:36:48,946 --> 00:36:50,792
Uh, Natalie's boss?
826
00:36:50,816 --> 00:36:53,512
The man who oversees the entire program?
827
00:36:53,536 --> 00:36:57,012
His position means he can come
and go between labs by himself
828
00:36:57,036 --> 00:36:58,642
without raising suspicion,
829
00:36:58,666 --> 00:37:02,102
which means he has access to anthrax.
830
00:37:02,126 --> 00:37:03,432
Not to mention the know-how
831
00:37:03,456 --> 00:37:06,102
and the equipment to dry the spores with.
832
00:37:06,126 --> 00:37:08,062
Not only did
Dr. Simpkins have the motive,
833
00:37:08,086 --> 00:37:10,402
the means, and the opportunity
to commit this crime...
834
00:37:10,426 --> 00:37:13,152
He was also in the perfect
position to frame Natalie Reznick.
835
00:37:13,682 --> 00:37:15,492
Natalie had to get her boss's okay
836
00:37:15,516 --> 00:37:16,782
before she wrote to that list
837
00:37:16,806 --> 00:37:19,532
of legislators and journalists
in the wake of the budget cuts.
838
00:37:20,189 --> 00:37:23,662
Dr. Simpkins could easily have
pulled Congressman Connors'
839
00:37:23,686 --> 00:37:27,502
and Allison Rojas' names
from that list in an effort
840
00:37:27,526 --> 00:37:29,212
to make Natalie look guilty.
841
00:37:31,276 --> 00:37:32,502
I'm sorry,
842
00:37:32,526 --> 00:37:37,012
but none of this
sounds terribly convincing.
843
00:37:37,036 --> 00:37:39,512
In fact, it sounds desperate,
844
00:37:39,536 --> 00:37:41,142
like you know you're about to lose
845
00:37:41,166 --> 00:37:43,182
and you're throwing spaghetti
on the wall,
846
00:37:43,206 --> 00:37:44,512
hoping something will stick.
847
00:37:44,536 --> 00:37:48,182
Look, I came to this
meeting in good faith.
848
00:37:48,206 --> 00:37:49,892
But I got to tell you,
849
00:37:49,916 --> 00:37:52,732
I believe Natalie Reznick is guilty,
850
00:37:52,756 --> 00:37:54,692
and nothing I've heard here today
851
00:37:54,716 --> 00:37:57,822
even remotely begins to change my mind.
852
00:37:57,846 --> 00:38:00,032
Well, perhaps we should
have skipped the warm-up then.
853
00:38:00,056 --> 00:38:03,306
Danny, the pi�ce de r�sistance,
if you will.
854
00:38:08,106 --> 00:38:10,884
You recognize these images, Mr. Reynolds?
855
00:38:10,908 --> 00:38:12,042
Of course.
856
00:38:12,066 --> 00:38:13,882
Those are from the security footage
857
00:38:13,906 --> 00:38:17,135
the FBI lifted near the mailbox
where the letters were sent.
858
00:38:17,159 --> 00:38:19,052
You were never able to identify Natalie
859
00:38:19,076 --> 00:38:20,842
in any of these photos, were you?
860
00:38:20,866 --> 00:38:22,392
Come on. Look at the time of year.
861
00:38:22,416 --> 00:38:24,182
Look how everyone is dressed.
862
00:38:24,206 --> 00:38:27,168
Nevertheless, we do believe
one of them is Natalie.
863
00:38:27,192 --> 00:38:30,272
Well, in the same way you set out
to prove one of them is Natalie,
864
00:38:30,296 --> 00:38:33,926
we set out to prove
one of them is Dr. Simpkins.
865
00:38:35,506 --> 00:38:37,282
We widened the surveillance area
866
00:38:37,306 --> 00:38:39,242
and accessed all of the security cameras
867
00:38:39,266 --> 00:38:41,032
within a half-mile radius of the mailbox.
868
00:38:41,056 --> 00:38:42,862
Now, the FBI determined that there was
869
00:38:42,886 --> 00:38:46,032
an eight-hour window during
which the letters were mailed.
870
00:38:46,056 --> 00:38:49,542
So, using a photograph
of Dr. Simpkins' face,
871
00:38:49,566 --> 00:38:51,752
our office created an algorithm
872
00:38:51,776 --> 00:38:54,752
to scan all eight hours of the footage
873
00:38:54,776 --> 00:38:56,406
from every single camera.
874
00:38:57,406 --> 00:38:59,592
This is what we found.
875
00:38:59,616 --> 00:39:02,958
Recorded by an ATM about four
blocks away from the mailbox.
876
00:39:04,543 --> 00:39:06,795
As you can see, that's Roger Simpkins.
877
00:39:07,075 --> 00:39:09,432
And you'll notice his hat
878
00:39:09,456 --> 00:39:11,819
perfectly matches this hat.
879
00:39:11,843 --> 00:39:13,557
In this photo.
880
00:39:13,581 --> 00:39:16,726
Where a person
is clearly mailing letters.
881
00:39:16,750 --> 00:39:19,846
Letters which I would bet
contain anthrax.
882
00:39:23,982 --> 00:39:25,562
Nice work.
883
00:39:28,686 --> 00:39:31,122
Well, I suppose the four of us
884
00:39:31,146 --> 00:39:33,122
should take a walk
down to the judge's chambers,
885
00:39:33,146 --> 00:39:34,740
see if we can get an audience.
886
00:39:36,742 --> 00:39:38,842
If this isn't probable cause
for a search warrant,
887
00:39:38,866 --> 00:39:40,412
I don't know what is.
888
00:39:46,116 --> 00:39:47,432
Look out there.
889
00:39:47,456 --> 00:39:49,102
You see a single face mask?
890
00:39:49,126 --> 00:39:50,472
Nope.
891
00:39:50,496 --> 00:39:51,972
Just people walking their dogs,
892
00:39:51,996 --> 00:39:53,982
strolling their kids.
893
00:39:54,593 --> 00:39:56,442
Well, it's like we told the judge...
894
00:39:56,466 --> 00:39:58,612
The FBI searched Dr. Simpkins' apartment,
895
00:39:58,636 --> 00:40:00,822
only to discover it,
too, had been bleached.
896
00:40:00,846 --> 00:40:03,442
Luckily, when they opened up
the HVAC ducts,
897
00:40:03,466 --> 00:40:07,022
they found anthrax spores
behind a vent in the kitchen.
898
00:40:07,773 --> 00:40:10,162
I still have a hard time believing it.
899
00:40:10,186 --> 00:40:11,952
We talked about it all the time.
900
00:40:11,976 --> 00:40:14,962
He kept saying
how he wanted to help people,
901
00:40:14,986 --> 00:40:16,002
protect people.
902
00:40:16,026 --> 00:40:18,132
Oh, I'm sure he thought
he was doing just that.
903
00:40:18,156 --> 00:40:20,119
Doing it for the greater good.
904
00:40:21,286 --> 00:40:24,052
You know, I guess that's why
I like my work so much.
905
00:40:24,665 --> 00:40:26,882
Bacteria may be challenging,
906
00:40:27,376 --> 00:40:31,755
but they're a whole hell of a lot
easier to understand than people.
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