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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:03:29,418 --> 00:03:30,999 I'm sorry to bother you again. 2 00:03:31,045 --> 00:03:34,003 I must be slow. I got a quarter after. 3 00:03:34,048 --> 00:03:36,289 No, lieutenant. 4:15. Right on the nose. 4 00:03:39,511 --> 00:03:41,047 You got a cigarette? I'm all out. 5 00:03:41,138 --> 00:03:43,174 Oh, here. Right there. Help yourself. 6 00:03:47,228 --> 00:03:49,184 Lieutenant, you want something to read? 7 00:03:49,230 --> 00:03:51,391 I got a nice esquire, right in the bottom drawer there. 8 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:52,680 You sure? 9 00:04:09,333 --> 00:04:11,073 You looking for camp gee gee, lieutenant? 10 00:04:11,126 --> 00:04:13,367 Huh? Looking for camp gee gee? 11 00:04:13,462 --> 00:04:15,248 Why, is it on here? Oh, sure. 12 00:04:15,339 --> 00:04:17,859 We got all the red prison camps marked with pins. Now, let's see. 13 00:04:17,883 --> 00:04:20,340 Gee gee. Gee gee. 14 00:04:20,427 --> 00:04:22,213 Here we are. Forty-one degrees. 15 00:04:22,304 --> 00:04:24,590 That ought to put it somewhere around... let's see... 16 00:04:24,682 --> 00:04:29,301 Forty... here we are. Saman. No, no. Gee gee. 17 00:04:30,145 --> 00:04:32,010 There you are. Gee gee. 18 00:04:32,648 --> 00:04:34,263 Yeah. 19 00:04:34,358 --> 00:04:37,145 Well, I guess you don't need a map to remember that dump, huh? 20 00:04:38,362 --> 00:04:39,727 Guess not. 21 00:04:43,325 --> 00:04:45,136 The colonel will be along in a couple of minutes, lieutenant. 22 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:46,741 That's what you said 20 minutes ago. 23 00:04:46,829 --> 00:04:49,320 Lieutenant, this is just a routine investigation. 24 00:04:49,415 --> 00:04:51,497 There's nothing to be nervous about. I'm not nervous. 25 00:04:51,542 --> 00:04:53,828 I just wanna know the story on all this business. 26 00:04:53,919 --> 00:04:55,750 I got a leave coming up. 27 00:04:55,838 --> 00:04:58,921 Are we all gonna have to hang around here and testify at this court-martial? 28 00:04:59,008 --> 00:05:02,546 Well, sir, there might not even be a court-martial. 29 00:05:02,678 --> 00:05:04,168 What does that mean? 30 00:05:04,263 --> 00:05:06,408 Well, you see, sir, the colonel is the investigating officer. 31 00:05:06,432 --> 00:05:10,641 Now, he just gets the facts together and makes a recommendation to the general. 32 00:05:10,728 --> 00:05:12,764 Now, it's up to the general to decide whether there's gonna be 33 00:05:12,771 --> 00:05:15,183 a court-martial or not. Yeah, but in a case like cargill's, 34 00:05:15,274 --> 00:05:16,855 there can't be any doubt, can there? 35 00:05:16,900 --> 00:05:19,642 Well, I wouldn't think so. You through with my cigarettes? 36 00:05:19,737 --> 00:05:22,103 Thank you. I just wish they'd get on with it. 37 00:05:22,197 --> 00:05:25,189 Lieutenant, don't worry. 38 00:05:25,242 --> 00:05:28,951 Colonel Edwards will give you every break he can, believe me. 39 00:05:29,038 --> 00:05:32,280 Now, you mustn't get the wrong idea about him, just because he's a staff officer. 40 00:05:32,374 --> 00:05:35,787 He wasn't always in the chair-borne infantry. 41 00:05:35,878 --> 00:05:38,369 You know, we were in the bulge together, him and me. 42 00:05:39,506 --> 00:05:40,996 A college man. 43 00:05:45,763 --> 00:05:49,301 She's got looks, brains, personality, everything. 44 00:05:49,350 --> 00:05:52,467 Just got one blind spot, can't go for sergeants. 45 00:06:08,786 --> 00:06:10,617 Colonel Edwards, it's a good thing you're back. 46 00:06:10,621 --> 00:06:13,033 Yeah. I'm sorry I kept Miller waiting. 47 00:06:13,082 --> 00:06:15,915 Oh, it's not that, sir. The general called. 48 00:06:16,543 --> 00:06:17,703 Twice. 49 00:06:19,630 --> 00:06:20,665 Oh. 50 00:06:30,057 --> 00:06:31,092 Yes? 51 00:06:32,851 --> 00:06:34,842 You sent for me, sir? 52 00:06:34,937 --> 00:06:38,304 Oh, yes, bill. Come in, come in. I've been waiting for you. 53 00:06:38,399 --> 00:06:41,266 I'm sorry, sir. I had to interview some people on the cargill case. 54 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:42,691 Off the post? Yes, sir. 55 00:06:42,778 --> 00:06:44,538 That was the best way to see them. Civilians. 56 00:06:44,571 --> 00:06:47,438 Well, bill, you've been taking a lot more time than usual on this case. 57 00:06:47,533 --> 00:06:49,319 You've been on it for several months. 58 00:06:49,368 --> 00:06:50,528 Yes, I know. 59 00:06:50,577 --> 00:06:52,283 We got a lot of cases ahead of us. 60 00:06:52,371 --> 00:06:53,702 They're after me to get things moving. 61 00:06:53,705 --> 00:06:54,820 I understand, sir. 62 00:06:54,915 --> 00:06:56,155 Can't hold them up much longer. 63 00:06:56,208 --> 00:06:58,574 Not fair to the people involved. 64 00:06:58,669 --> 00:07:01,439 That's why I was hoping you'd wind this one up as soon as possible, huh? 65 00:07:01,463 --> 00:07:04,205 Well, I'll do my best, sir. I've got my last witness waiting for me now. 66 00:07:04,216 --> 00:07:05,216 Last one? Yes, sir. 67 00:07:05,300 --> 00:07:06,790 Good. That's what I want to hear. 68 00:07:06,885 --> 00:07:07,885 All right, sir. 69 00:07:12,891 --> 00:07:16,679 Boy, that's some gadget you got there, lieutenant. 70 00:07:16,728 --> 00:07:19,595 Let's see, may 15, 1954. 71 00:07:20,524 --> 00:07:22,230 Oh, full moon. 72 00:07:22,276 --> 00:07:23,937 How do you tell time with these things? 73 00:07:24,027 --> 00:07:25,392 That must have set you back plenty. 74 00:07:25,487 --> 00:07:26,647 I won it in a crap... baker. 75 00:07:26,738 --> 00:07:28,524 Yeah? Take this over to cic, will you? 76 00:07:28,615 --> 00:07:30,151 Yes, sir. 77 00:07:30,242 --> 00:07:33,029 Sit down, lieutenant. Sorry to keep you waiting. 78 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,702 I didn't realize I'd be gone so long. That's all right, sir. 79 00:07:35,789 --> 00:07:39,907 This won't take too much longer, just a few routine questions. 80 00:07:40,002 --> 00:07:42,618 Let's see, where were we yesterday? 81 00:07:42,796 --> 00:07:44,627 Question, "had you known major cargill before" 82 00:07:44,715 --> 00:07:46,922 "you were prisoners together in camp gee gee?" 83 00:07:47,009 --> 00:07:48,795 Answer, "no, sir, none of us did." 84 00:07:48,886 --> 00:07:51,502 Thank you. All right. 85 00:07:51,597 --> 00:07:55,806 Now, how long were you at this camp before cargill was put into your shack? 86 00:07:55,893 --> 00:07:58,009 About four months, sir. Uh-huh. 87 00:07:58,103 --> 00:08:00,957 And that means you all lived together for nine months before it happened? 88 00:08:00,981 --> 00:08:02,517 Yes, sir, that's right. 89 00:08:02,608 --> 00:08:05,645 Well, tell me, lieutenant, how did it happen? 90 00:08:05,694 --> 00:08:08,606 Well, sir, it happened very suddenly. It took us all by surprise. 91 00:08:08,697 --> 00:08:10,688 Yes, but just how? 92 00:08:10,782 --> 00:08:13,023 Sir, you must know that. You must have it in there. 93 00:08:13,118 --> 00:08:16,610 I've got the testimony of 14 different witnesses in here, lieutenant. 94 00:08:16,705 --> 00:08:19,117 But I still need your own version of it. Yes, sir. 95 00:08:19,166 --> 00:08:21,006 Now let's hear it just the way you remember it. 96 00:08:21,043 --> 00:08:22,783 Yes, sir, just the way I remember it. 97 00:08:22,878 --> 00:08:27,622 Well, I remember it was real cold that day. It was cold. 98 00:08:27,716 --> 00:08:32,426 Man, you don't know what cold is till you've been cold in North Korea. 99 00:08:32,471 --> 00:08:34,462 Like every day, they got us up at dawn. 100 00:08:34,556 --> 00:08:38,549 Made us get out into the compound for one of those lectures. 101 00:08:38,644 --> 00:08:42,228 Just like any other day, except for one thing. 102 00:08:43,649 --> 00:08:45,310 Colonel Kim was late. 103 00:08:51,281 --> 00:08:53,772 Here comes old baldy. 104 00:08:53,825 --> 00:08:57,033 Yeah, the honorable colonel Kim. 105 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:58,860 Wonder what he's done to cargill this time. 106 00:08:58,956 --> 00:09:01,197 What he always does. He's got him in the hole. 107 00:09:01,291 --> 00:09:04,158 Yeah, but I'll bet you first he tied old Kim up in knots again. 108 00:09:04,211 --> 00:09:06,122 Don't worry about cargill. 109 00:09:06,171 --> 00:09:09,834 You want to worry about somebody, you worry about Kim. 110 00:09:13,845 --> 00:09:15,676 Sit down, gentlemen. 111 00:09:22,354 --> 00:09:23,560 Sit down. 112 00:09:36,201 --> 00:09:40,194 Today we will review the lecture of yesterday. 113 00:09:40,247 --> 00:09:42,158 The history of all previous societies 114 00:09:42,207 --> 00:09:44,368 has been the history of class struggles. 115 00:09:44,418 --> 00:09:47,034 Struggles between the oppressors and oppressed. 116 00:09:59,933 --> 00:10:05,018 Now, repeat after me. "Communism is peace." Ready? 117 00:10:05,731 --> 00:10:07,312 Communism is... 118 00:10:17,159 --> 00:10:19,150 Well, comrades. 119 00:10:19,202 --> 00:10:22,535 Since you don't choose to listen to me, perhaps... 120 00:10:36,261 --> 00:10:39,344 Comrade cargill, the class is yours. 121 00:10:47,856 --> 00:10:51,098 I know this will come as a surprise to you, but... 122 00:10:52,277 --> 00:10:54,108 But I hope you will cooperate with me. 123 00:10:58,867 --> 00:11:00,573 For our first session, 124 00:11:00,619 --> 00:11:04,862 we'll approach the subject from a historical point of view. 125 00:11:06,041 --> 00:11:07,076 The... 126 00:11:08,752 --> 00:11:13,621 As colonel Kim has said, the history of all 127 00:11:13,674 --> 00:11:16,916 previous existing societies has been 128 00:11:17,010 --> 00:11:19,877 the history of the class struggle. 129 00:11:19,971 --> 00:11:24,840 The bourgeoisie, which owns and controls the means 130 00:11:24,893 --> 00:11:27,680 and instruments of production, has 131 00:11:27,771 --> 00:11:30,854 exploited the working class which depends upon it. 132 00:11:30,941 --> 00:11:35,025 But thereby 133 00:11:35,112 --> 00:11:39,651 the bourgeoisie has also forged the weapons of its own destruction. It... 134 00:11:42,244 --> 00:11:43,450 It... 135 00:11:43,537 --> 00:11:45,744 You're doing very well, major. 136 00:11:47,249 --> 00:11:50,582 He doesn't need me here. Continue. 137 00:11:50,669 --> 00:11:53,001 Oh, yes, a word of warning. 138 00:11:53,046 --> 00:11:58,040 Any harm to this comrade will bring reprisals on everyone. 139 00:12:16,695 --> 00:12:21,815 Thereby the bourgeoisie has also forged the weapons of its own destruction. 140 00:12:23,201 --> 00:12:25,362 It has created the men who are to wield the... 141 00:12:25,454 --> 00:12:26,910 Okay, he's gone. 142 00:12:30,459 --> 00:12:34,122 It has created the men who are to wield those weapons. 143 00:12:34,212 --> 00:12:38,626 These are the proletarians, the standard-bearers of the new civilization... 144 00:12:38,717 --> 00:12:40,253 He's gone. 145 00:12:41,928 --> 00:12:44,044 The new utopia. 146 00:12:44,139 --> 00:12:47,631 It is a cause to which all men of goodwill everywhere... 147 00:12:49,811 --> 00:12:56,478 Can dedicate their energies, their talents and their lives. 148 00:12:56,568 --> 00:13:00,026 In communism there is only one class and it works for peace. 149 00:13:01,364 --> 00:13:03,605 Communism is peace. 150 00:13:05,744 --> 00:13:09,578 Wait... look... Wait, listen to me. 151 00:13:11,666 --> 00:13:14,658 Don't be such heroes. 152 00:13:14,711 --> 00:13:18,374 This man means business now. He's got to show results. 153 00:13:23,261 --> 00:13:24,467 Miller, 154 00:13:26,181 --> 00:13:27,762 you understand? 155 00:13:32,771 --> 00:13:35,808 Miller! You do understand! 156 00:13:36,525 --> 00:13:38,356 I don't understand. 157 00:13:41,446 --> 00:13:44,779 Not even to this day, sir. I just don't understand. 158 00:13:50,372 --> 00:13:55,082 And that was the first indication that cargill had gone over, huh? 159 00:13:55,168 --> 00:13:57,955 Yes, sir, that's the first indication we had. 160 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:04,379 After that one time, did he continue these activities? 161 00:14:04,469 --> 00:14:07,586 Yes, sir. Right up till the time we left gee gee to be exchanged. 162 00:14:07,639 --> 00:14:09,004 I see. 163 00:14:09,891 --> 00:14:11,973 Well, Miller, uh... 164 00:14:12,060 --> 00:14:15,393 What else did he do that you'd consider collaboration? 165 00:14:17,023 --> 00:14:20,356 Well, sir, we heard he made radio broadcasts for them saying 166 00:14:20,443 --> 00:14:23,230 the United States had used germ warfare. 167 00:14:23,321 --> 00:14:25,653 Of course, we only heard about that. 168 00:14:25,699 --> 00:14:27,860 I know he signed one of those germ warfare confessions, 169 00:14:27,868 --> 00:14:29,324 'cause I saw one of them. 170 00:14:32,163 --> 00:14:33,243 Like this? 171 00:14:35,917 --> 00:14:38,078 Yes, sir, that's it. 172 00:14:38,169 --> 00:14:40,080 Did he also make newsreels for the enemy? 173 00:14:40,171 --> 00:14:41,832 Newsreels? Yes. 174 00:14:41,923 --> 00:14:44,289 No, sir. No, he couldn't have. 175 00:14:47,762 --> 00:14:50,845 Miller, can you think of any reason why he went over? 176 00:14:52,434 --> 00:14:53,765 Well, sir, I've been thinking. 177 00:14:53,852 --> 00:14:56,969 Is it possible maybe he was a plant? 178 00:14:57,063 --> 00:14:58,849 You know, he was one of them all the time? 179 00:14:58,982 --> 00:15:01,223 You testified yesterday that nobody ever suspected him. 180 00:15:01,318 --> 00:15:02,979 Now do you want to change your testimony? 181 00:15:03,069 --> 00:15:05,401 No, sir. Now that I think about it, 182 00:15:05,488 --> 00:15:07,649 I guess he could have been, could he? 183 00:15:07,741 --> 00:15:11,654 Well, I mean, I no more expected Harry to go over than I would my own brother. 184 00:15:14,748 --> 00:15:17,285 Were you and cargill close friends? 185 00:15:17,334 --> 00:15:18,824 Cargill and me? No, sir. 186 00:15:18,877 --> 00:15:20,938 Well, the way you talk, I thought you might be close buddies. 187 00:15:20,962 --> 00:15:23,123 No, sir, we weren't any more friends than anybody else. 188 00:15:23,173 --> 00:15:24,859 Did he have any special friend in the compound? 189 00:15:24,883 --> 00:15:26,168 No, sir. 190 00:15:26,801 --> 00:15:29,042 Why? 191 00:15:29,137 --> 00:15:33,551 Well, in the 48 hours before cargill broke, two men died. 192 00:15:35,393 --> 00:15:38,385 Captain Connors and lieutenant... 193 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:39,936 Harvey, sir? 194 00:15:39,981 --> 00:15:43,144 Yeah, that's right. Lieutenant Harvey. 195 00:15:43,234 --> 00:15:45,725 Incidentally, how did Harvey die? 196 00:15:45,820 --> 00:15:48,357 Oh, I thought you knew that, sir. No. 197 00:15:48,406 --> 00:15:51,193 Lieutenant Harvey died following an acute case of dysentery. 198 00:15:51,284 --> 00:15:54,321 And captain Connors? Same thing, sir. 199 00:15:54,412 --> 00:15:56,494 That dysentery must have been pretty rough, huh? 200 00:15:56,581 --> 00:15:59,163 Yes, sir, it was a real killer. 201 00:15:59,250 --> 00:16:02,959 In fact, sir, eight of the nine men that died in our shack died of dysentery. 202 00:16:04,255 --> 00:16:06,667 You see, sir, in cases of bacillary dysentery, 203 00:16:06,716 --> 00:16:08,923 the incidence of death is pretty high. 204 00:16:09,010 --> 00:16:10,875 Especially when there's no medicine. 205 00:16:10,929 --> 00:16:14,046 You see, what happens is dehydration sets in 206 00:16:14,099 --> 00:16:18,843 and the sick man suffers from a general wasting away. And then he just dies. 207 00:16:18,937 --> 00:16:21,724 I guess all of you got to be amateur medics, didn't you? 208 00:16:21,815 --> 00:16:24,602 Yes, sir. We had to be. 209 00:16:24,651 --> 00:16:28,815 It's a pretty shocking thing to see your friends die that way. 210 00:16:28,905 --> 00:16:32,068 Well, that's exactly what I meant, lieutenant. 211 00:16:32,117 --> 00:16:35,450 Seeing something like this could shock a man enough to crack him. 212 00:16:35,537 --> 00:16:38,700 Especially if the victim were a close friend of his. 213 00:16:38,748 --> 00:16:42,103 I see what you mean, sir, but I just told you, cargill didn't have any close friends. 214 00:16:42,127 --> 00:16:43,287 Why not? Well, sir, I... 215 00:16:43,378 --> 00:16:44,709 Was he cold? Unfriendly? 216 00:16:44,796 --> 00:16:47,162 No, sir, he was friendly enough. 217 00:16:47,257 --> 00:16:50,249 We used to kid him all the time. We called him professor. 218 00:16:50,343 --> 00:16:53,460 Not that he really was a professor, but he taught in some college. 219 00:16:53,555 --> 00:16:56,547 He was an instructor. Instructor, that's right. 220 00:16:56,599 --> 00:16:57,964 And when we called him professor, 221 00:16:58,018 --> 00:16:59,804 we weren't riding him or anything like that. 222 00:16:59,894 --> 00:17:02,055 Because, you see, all the men liked him, respected him. 223 00:17:02,105 --> 00:17:05,268 Right from the time he got to gee gee. 224 00:17:05,358 --> 00:17:07,849 In fact, sir, that's one of the most vivid memories I have 225 00:17:07,944 --> 00:17:08,979 of the entire war. 226 00:17:09,029 --> 00:17:10,690 What was that? 227 00:17:10,780 --> 00:17:14,022 The first time that cargill got to our shack. 228 00:17:14,117 --> 00:17:17,484 You see, one of the men had died during the night 229 00:17:17,579 --> 00:17:19,069 and we got permission to bury him. 230 00:17:19,164 --> 00:17:22,656 We stood around in the rain and somebody read from a Bible. 231 00:17:22,709 --> 00:17:26,247 And when we got ready to cover up the body, 232 00:17:26,337 --> 00:17:29,454 cargill steps to the edge of the grave and he says, 233 00:17:36,473 --> 00:17:40,216 From that time on, whenever he talked, we listened. 234 00:17:40,310 --> 00:17:44,269 You see, we trusted him, we respected him, you know? 235 00:17:44,355 --> 00:17:47,017 "My brother dies that I may live." 236 00:17:51,071 --> 00:17:54,063 That doesn't sound like their philosophy to me, lieutenant. 237 00:17:54,157 --> 00:17:55,917 Well, that's nine months before he went over. 238 00:17:55,992 --> 00:17:58,404 He had a lot of time to think. 239 00:17:59,370 --> 00:18:00,930 Sir, don't you know those guys like him, 240 00:18:00,955 --> 00:18:02,820 these guys that think too much? 241 00:18:02,916 --> 00:18:05,578 You know, they can kind of get taken in by that kind of stuff. 242 00:18:05,627 --> 00:18:08,334 Then you think cargill was "taken in"? Sir? 243 00:18:08,379 --> 00:18:12,964 Well, some of these men went over for personal gain or physical comfort. 244 00:18:13,051 --> 00:18:15,838 But you don't think it was that way in his case? 245 00:18:15,887 --> 00:18:17,878 No, sir, there's no indication of that. 246 00:18:17,931 --> 00:18:21,173 Then you think he really embraced their philosophy? 247 00:18:21,226 --> 00:18:22,807 Sir, I don't know. 248 00:18:22,894 --> 00:18:24,976 There's only one person who can tell you that. 249 00:18:25,897 --> 00:18:27,683 As you were. 250 00:18:27,732 --> 00:18:30,064 Bill, sergeant fleischacker told me there was a boy here from camp gee gee. 251 00:18:30,068 --> 00:18:32,525 Yes, sir. Lieutenant Miller, this is general Connors. 252 00:18:32,612 --> 00:18:35,729 Lieutenant, you must have known my son, captain Connors. 253 00:18:35,782 --> 00:18:37,568 Joe Connors. Oh, yes, sir. 254 00:18:37,659 --> 00:18:39,499 I know I'm interrupting. But I had to find out. 255 00:18:39,577 --> 00:18:40,697 That's quite all right, sir. 256 00:18:40,745 --> 00:18:43,532 Give me a minute, will you, bill? Yes, sure. 257 00:18:47,585 --> 00:18:48,825 Well. 258 00:18:50,630 --> 00:18:51,745 Mint? 259 00:18:53,091 --> 00:18:55,002 Thank you, sir. 260 00:18:55,093 --> 00:18:57,379 Did you know my son before gee gee? 261 00:18:57,428 --> 00:18:59,589 Oh, yes, sir. We were in the same outfit, you know. 262 00:18:59,681 --> 00:19:01,262 A fine outfit, lieutenant. 263 00:19:01,349 --> 00:19:03,089 You men made quite a record for yourselves. 264 00:19:03,184 --> 00:19:05,516 Thank you, sir. 265 00:19:05,603 --> 00:19:07,594 But it wouldn't have been the same without Joe. 266 00:19:08,982 --> 00:19:11,143 Well, in fact, sir, 267 00:19:11,234 --> 00:19:15,398 when Joe died, every man in the camp felt as though he'd lost a brother. 268 00:19:16,614 --> 00:19:18,275 You must have known him well. 269 00:19:18,366 --> 00:19:21,608 Well, sir, when you live together in a small shack that long... 270 00:19:21,703 --> 00:19:24,695 Yes, sir, I knew him very well, sir. 271 00:19:27,333 --> 00:19:29,270 Lieutenant, how about joining me for a drink at the club? 272 00:19:29,294 --> 00:19:31,626 Well, sir... I want to talk to you about Joe. 273 00:19:32,463 --> 00:19:34,078 Bill? Yes, sir? 274 00:19:34,174 --> 00:19:35,789 I asked for a minute, now I need an hour. 275 00:19:35,884 --> 00:19:37,294 Is that all right with you? 276 00:19:37,343 --> 00:19:40,426 Well, I was... Yes, of course, sir. 277 00:19:40,513 --> 00:19:42,424 We'll go on with this in the morning, Miller. 278 00:19:42,515 --> 00:19:43,971 Come on, son. 279 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,448 How did fleischacker know that Miller was in here? 280 00:20:02,535 --> 00:20:05,242 Well, you know fleischacker, sir. 281 00:20:05,330 --> 00:20:07,537 He's a one-man radar system. 282 00:20:07,582 --> 00:20:09,618 Yeah. Sir, these are finished. 283 00:20:09,667 --> 00:20:11,077 Oh, thanks. 284 00:20:32,106 --> 00:20:34,472 Okay, baker, what's up? 285 00:20:34,525 --> 00:20:37,858 Why, nothing, sir. Nothing at all. 286 00:20:37,946 --> 00:20:41,188 Now, don't kid me. With you it's never nothing. 287 00:20:41,241 --> 00:20:43,482 Oh, that's a very unfriendly remark, sir. 288 00:20:43,576 --> 00:20:47,364 Indicates a complete lack of trust and confidence. 289 00:20:47,455 --> 00:20:50,322 Oh, I'm terribly sorry I hurt your feelings, baker. 290 00:20:50,458 --> 00:20:52,289 Now, what do you want? 291 00:20:52,377 --> 00:20:55,244 May I take that as permission to discuss this matter further? 292 00:20:55,296 --> 00:20:58,254 All I have to do is breathe and you take it as permission. 293 00:20:58,299 --> 00:21:01,462 All I'm trying to do is be cooperative, sir. 294 00:21:01,552 --> 00:21:04,259 I'm just trying to suggest, sir, that this case is so open-and-shut 295 00:21:04,347 --> 00:21:06,759 we don't even need a court-martial. 296 00:21:07,392 --> 00:21:08,928 On, I see. 297 00:21:09,018 --> 00:21:11,885 Look, sir. All we have to do is take a card, punch holes in it, 298 00:21:11,938 --> 00:21:14,520 one for each wrong thing this major cargill did, 299 00:21:14,607 --> 00:21:17,019 send it through an IBM machine and come up with the right answer. 300 00:21:17,026 --> 00:21:18,436 That's the kind of case this is. 301 00:21:18,528 --> 00:21:20,018 So? 302 00:21:20,113 --> 00:21:22,149 So the sooner it's over the better. 303 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:23,275 Wh y? Sir? 304 00:21:23,324 --> 00:21:26,316 Why? You've got to have a reason. 305 00:21:26,411 --> 00:21:29,903 Well, if the colonel will forgive me for saying so, you're wrong. 306 00:21:29,998 --> 00:21:32,455 Look, sir, I'm no intellectual. I don't need a reason. 307 00:21:32,542 --> 00:21:35,312 But as long as the colonel has opened up the subject for further discussion, 308 00:21:35,336 --> 00:21:37,356 I would like to say that I don't like the whole idea 309 00:21:37,380 --> 00:21:40,167 of the colonel handling this case. This is a hot potato, sir. 310 00:21:40,258 --> 00:21:41,938 Baker, is there anything else on your mind? 311 00:21:42,010 --> 00:21:43,921 Yes, sir, as long... Just answer yes or no. 312 00:21:44,012 --> 00:21:45,548 Anything else on your mind? Yes, sir. 313 00:21:45,638 --> 00:21:47,094 Then shut up. 314 00:21:52,186 --> 00:21:53,301 Yes, sir. 315 00:21:57,483 --> 00:21:59,974 Well, wait. Wait a minute. 316 00:22:04,157 --> 00:22:06,113 If you really want to do something for me, 317 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:07,594 go out to the machine and get us some coffee. 318 00:22:07,618 --> 00:22:08,653 Coffee, Evans? Yes, sir. 319 00:22:08,745 --> 00:22:09,905 Never mind, it's on me. 320 00:22:09,996 --> 00:22:12,954 Yeah, the colonel's throwing a farewell party. 321 00:22:16,878 --> 00:22:19,039 What's the matter with him today? 322 00:22:20,089 --> 00:22:22,045 Maybe it isn't baker. 323 00:22:22,091 --> 00:22:23,581 What? 324 00:22:23,676 --> 00:22:27,043 Well, sir, perhaps you're a bit touchy today. 325 00:22:27,096 --> 00:22:28,427 After all, it is possible. 326 00:22:28,514 --> 00:22:30,220 Oh, is it? 327 00:22:30,308 --> 00:22:33,175 Well, sir, if you'd really like my opinion, yes. 328 00:22:33,227 --> 00:22:36,264 Evans, I'm tired of being analyzed today. 329 00:22:36,356 --> 00:22:38,221 I'm tired of being told... 330 00:22:38,316 --> 00:22:41,399 I'm tired of being told how to do my job. 331 00:22:41,486 --> 00:22:43,693 And if I'm touchy and why. 332 00:22:55,666 --> 00:22:58,248 Sir, what are extenuating circumstances? 333 00:22:58,336 --> 00:22:59,621 Oh, I don't mean that. 334 00:22:59,670 --> 00:23:01,956 I mean, couldn't something be extenuating circumstances 335 00:23:02,006 --> 00:23:03,997 to one person and not to another, sir? 336 00:23:04,050 --> 00:23:06,883 That's always a matter of opinion, baker. 337 00:23:06,969 --> 00:23:09,506 Well, 338 00:23:09,597 --> 00:23:13,340 let's say that there's a general who had a son who died in a prison camp. 339 00:23:13,393 --> 00:23:16,055 That's just for the sake of argument. 340 00:23:16,104 --> 00:23:20,188 Let's say there's a major who's at this same camp who went over to the enemy 341 00:23:20,274 --> 00:23:23,016 to save his own neck and comes out of the whole deal alive. 342 00:23:23,069 --> 00:23:24,980 Baker, 343 00:23:25,029 --> 00:23:29,193 there is a prescribed routine in all cases involving possible court-martial, right? 344 00:23:29,283 --> 00:23:31,740 And if it takes a certain amount of time, we'll take that time, right? 345 00:23:31,744 --> 00:23:33,484 Right. 346 00:23:33,538 --> 00:23:35,516 But when it's done, it'll have been done with full regard for his rights 347 00:23:35,540 --> 00:23:38,156 under the uniform code of military justice. You understand? 348 00:23:38,209 --> 00:23:39,665 Mmm-hmm. 349 00:23:39,710 --> 00:23:43,168 That's very good, sir, as far as the book is concerned. 350 00:23:43,256 --> 00:23:44,587 Where the general is concerned... 351 00:23:44,632 --> 00:23:46,623 The general happens to be a friend of mine. 352 00:23:46,717 --> 00:23:49,379 Oh, but, sir, I happen to be a friend of sergeant fleischacker, 353 00:23:49,470 --> 00:23:51,085 who works in the general's office. 354 00:23:51,139 --> 00:23:53,221 It is sergeant fleischacker's opinion that... 355 00:23:53,307 --> 00:23:56,265 Baker, knock it off, will you? 356 00:23:56,310 --> 00:23:58,801 Okay. No more advice for you, though. 357 00:23:58,896 --> 00:24:00,852 Good. Sir... 358 00:24:00,898 --> 00:24:03,014 Major cargill is at the reception desk. 359 00:24:07,864 --> 00:24:10,071 Okay, have him come up. 360 00:24:29,093 --> 00:24:31,084 You can go up now, major. 361 00:24:55,036 --> 00:24:56,116 This way, major. 362 00:25:13,387 --> 00:25:14,752 Major cargill, sir. 363 00:25:14,847 --> 00:25:16,462 Come in, major. 364 00:25:17,767 --> 00:25:19,132 Sit down. 365 00:25:25,149 --> 00:25:28,061 Word certainly gets around, doesn't it? 366 00:25:28,152 --> 00:25:31,815 Well, I'm sure you're aware of the seriousness of the charges against you, 367 00:25:31,906 --> 00:25:33,521 aren't you, major? 368 00:25:36,702 --> 00:25:42,117 Now, first, let me review your rights under the uniform code of military justice. 369 00:25:42,208 --> 00:25:43,539 You don't have to answer... 370 00:25:43,626 --> 00:25:45,626 I don't have to answer any incriminating questions. 371 00:25:45,670 --> 00:25:48,753 I don't have to make any statements. I have the right to be represented by counsel. 372 00:25:48,756 --> 00:25:51,463 Article 31 of the code. I'm familiar with it. 373 00:25:51,592 --> 00:25:53,082 I'm willing to answer all questions 374 00:25:53,135 --> 00:25:55,501 and I don't want to be around when you question witnesses. 375 00:25:56,305 --> 00:25:58,387 Okay. 376 00:25:58,432 --> 00:26:02,675 Let's get on with it. Name. Rank. Serial number. 377 00:26:02,770 --> 00:26:06,103 Harry cargill, major. Artillery. 09432305. 378 00:26:06,190 --> 00:26:07,896 You're the same major Harry cargill 379 00:26:07,984 --> 00:26:09,690 who was imprisoned at camp gee gee in Korea? 380 00:26:09,694 --> 00:26:11,525 Yes, sir. 381 00:26:11,612 --> 00:26:14,024 You were captured during the breakthrough along the yalu river in North Korea? 382 00:26:14,031 --> 00:26:15,817 Yes, sir. 383 00:26:15,866 --> 00:26:17,469 You were hospitalized for two months and you were transferred 384 00:26:17,493 --> 00:26:18,573 to this camp gee gee? 385 00:26:18,661 --> 00:26:19,901 That's right. 386 00:26:21,664 --> 00:26:25,873 Well, major, certain charges have been made against you. 387 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,166 I'll recite them, 388 00:26:27,253 --> 00:26:29,835 then you'll have the opportunity of making a statement. 389 00:26:29,922 --> 00:26:31,913 Now, first, it's alleged... May I smoke? 390 00:26:40,391 --> 00:26:43,349 First, it's alleged that during November, 1951, 391 00:26:43,394 --> 00:26:45,225 you made a radio broadcast for the enemy 392 00:26:45,313 --> 00:26:48,020 in which you admitted taking part in germ warfare. 393 00:26:54,655 --> 00:26:56,065 Well? 394 00:26:56,157 --> 00:26:59,490 Huh? Oh, I'm sorry. 395 00:27:00,578 --> 00:27:03,820 Would you repeat that, please? 396 00:27:03,914 --> 00:27:08,578 It's alleged that during November, 1951, you made a radio broadcast for the enemy 397 00:27:08,669 --> 00:27:12,332 in which you falsely admitted taking part in germ warfare. Is that true? 398 00:27:12,423 --> 00:27:14,288 Yes. 399 00:27:14,342 --> 00:27:17,209 It is further charged that you gave indoctrination lectures favorable to the enemy 400 00:27:17,219 --> 00:27:18,959 to your fellow prisoners. Is that true? 401 00:27:19,013 --> 00:27:20,628 Yes, sir. 402 00:27:22,224 --> 00:27:25,182 I have a statement here confessing to germ warfare 403 00:27:25,269 --> 00:27:27,726 which supposedly carries your signature. 404 00:27:27,772 --> 00:27:29,103 It's my signature. 405 00:27:30,441 --> 00:27:32,727 Well, look at it first, major. 406 00:27:37,281 --> 00:27:40,193 Mmm-hmm. Yeah, that's my signature. 407 00:27:43,329 --> 00:27:45,741 Did you ever make propaganda newsreels for the enemy? 408 00:27:45,790 --> 00:27:48,202 Yes. Yes, I did. 409 00:27:48,292 --> 00:27:52,035 Look, major. I've already advised you of your rights to counsel, 410 00:27:52,129 --> 00:27:55,792 so I suggest you get a lawyer before we proceed any further. 411 00:27:55,841 --> 00:27:58,737 I don't want a lawyer. I just want to get this over with as quickly as possible. 412 00:27:58,761 --> 00:28:01,343 Don't you realize you're being accused of treason? 413 00:28:01,430 --> 00:28:02,840 Yes, I realize that. 414 00:28:02,932 --> 00:28:05,139 And you still want to confess without consulting a lawyer? 415 00:28:05,142 --> 00:28:06,928 Why not? I'm guilty. Of everything? 416 00:28:07,019 --> 00:28:10,011 Yes, of everything. Including making newsreels for the enemy? 417 00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:17,693 Major, why are you trying to hang yourself? 418 00:28:17,780 --> 00:28:21,864 Why do you confess to something that you didn't do? 419 00:28:21,951 --> 00:28:25,159 Because, as I told you before, I want to get this over with as quickly as possible. 420 00:28:25,162 --> 00:28:27,574 Now, will that be all? No, not quite. 421 00:28:27,665 --> 00:28:29,810 The army not only wants to know if you did these things, 422 00:28:29,834 --> 00:28:31,870 but also why. So sit down. 423 00:28:39,677 --> 00:28:41,008 Well, major? 424 00:28:42,596 --> 00:28:44,302 Well what? Why'd you make those broadcasts, 425 00:28:44,348 --> 00:28:46,054 give those lectures? Because I had no choice. 426 00:28:46,058 --> 00:28:47,423 That mean you were tortured? Yes. 427 00:28:47,476 --> 00:28:49,012 How? Just tortured. 428 00:28:49,103 --> 00:28:51,081 Well, they must have done certain things to you. What? 429 00:28:51,105 --> 00:28:53,266 Well, they put me in the hole. What was it like? 430 00:28:53,315 --> 00:28:54,751 Just a hole scooped out of the ground, 431 00:28:54,775 --> 00:28:56,503 covered over with boards, like solitary confinement. 432 00:28:56,527 --> 00:28:58,088 How many times did they put you in the hole? 433 00:28:58,112 --> 00:29:00,257 I don't know. Nine, ten times, maybe. I don't remember exactly. 434 00:29:00,281 --> 00:29:02,522 That's what made you break? 435 00:29:04,618 --> 00:29:05,653 Yes. 436 00:29:08,247 --> 00:29:10,533 The day you broke, 437 00:29:10,624 --> 00:29:12,330 they put you in the hole that day? Yes. 438 00:29:12,376 --> 00:29:13,741 And the day before? Yes. 439 00:29:13,836 --> 00:29:15,372 And the day before that? Yes. 440 00:29:15,421 --> 00:29:18,128 That's a lie, major, and you know it. 441 00:29:18,215 --> 00:29:21,924 I've got the testimony of 14 witnesses here who deny you were in the hole 442 00:29:22,011 --> 00:29:25,879 on any one of those days. Now, what are you trying to do? 443 00:29:25,973 --> 00:29:28,214 What do all these details matter? I told you I'm guilty. 444 00:29:28,309 --> 00:29:30,391 That's the important thing, isn't it? 445 00:29:34,023 --> 00:29:37,060 Do you want to make any statement at all in your own defense? 446 00:29:37,151 --> 00:29:38,391 I do not. 447 00:29:41,363 --> 00:29:45,106 Well, in that case, there's no point in prolonging this, is there? 448 00:29:45,201 --> 00:29:46,441 None whatsoever. 449 00:29:46,535 --> 00:29:48,821 Oh, just one more thing, major. 450 00:30:01,634 --> 00:30:03,966 Today on our english-language news broadcast 451 00:30:04,053 --> 00:30:07,045 we have an interview with an officer of the United States army. 452 00:30:07,097 --> 00:30:11,056 The truth he speaks will be of interest to all asiatic peoples. 453 00:30:11,101 --> 00:30:14,013 I will now ask questions. Who are you? 454 00:30:14,104 --> 00:30:15,344 I'm major Harry cargill. 455 00:30:15,439 --> 00:30:17,020 What's the point of this? 456 00:30:17,107 --> 00:30:19,098 I want you to identify these voices for me. 457 00:30:19,151 --> 00:30:21,233 Those who listen will know that this is the truth, 458 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,311 tell us your serial number. 459 00:30:23,405 --> 00:30:25,896 My serial number is 09432309. That's my voice. Okay? 460 00:30:25,950 --> 00:30:27,486 Who's the interrogator? 461 00:30:27,576 --> 00:30:28,887 Now, major, before you were captured... 462 00:30:28,911 --> 00:30:30,263 Colonel Kim, commandant of camp gee gee. 463 00:30:30,287 --> 00:30:31,723 Now, if that's all... No, that's not all. 464 00:30:31,747 --> 00:30:34,454 I thought you'd like to listen to the entire transcript, major. 465 00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:36,536 So you were with a bombing squadron. 466 00:30:36,627 --> 00:30:38,743 What was purpose of squadron? 467 00:30:38,838 --> 00:30:40,999 To drop bombs. Look, uh, 468 00:30:41,048 --> 00:30:44,711 couldn't we do this some other time? We've got to do it now. 469 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,671 What kind of bombs? 470 00:30:47,471 --> 00:30:49,211 Bacteriological. 471 00:30:49,306 --> 00:30:53,800 You mean germs? Deadly germs? 472 00:30:53,978 --> 00:30:55,969 Yes, germs. Deadly germs. 473 00:30:56,021 --> 00:30:59,434 American airplanes have dropped deadly germs on innocent, helpless asiatic... 474 00:30:59,525 --> 00:31:01,140 Turn it off. 475 00:31:01,193 --> 00:31:02,993 Peoples of Korea. United States has engaged... 476 00:31:03,028 --> 00:31:04,188 Turn it off. 477 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:05,549 In germ warfare against the people of Asia. 478 00:31:05,573 --> 00:31:07,188 That is so? Please turn it off. 479 00:31:07,241 --> 00:31:08,902 Was it so, major? The United States has... 480 00:31:08,993 --> 00:31:10,449 Turn it off! 481 00:31:12,913 --> 00:31:15,575 You swear on your honor that American bombers... 482 00:31:44,987 --> 00:31:46,773 That will be all, major. 483 00:31:49,950 --> 00:31:52,783 But you'll be called back tomorrow. 484 00:31:52,828 --> 00:31:56,616 Your testimony is interesting, but incomplete. 485 00:31:56,707 --> 00:32:00,575 You'll find that simply saying you're guilty is not enough. 486 00:32:05,716 --> 00:32:07,581 You don't understand. 487 00:32:09,053 --> 00:32:10,668 I am guilty. 488 00:32:38,374 --> 00:32:42,117 Hey, there's no pay for overtime in the army. 489 00:32:42,169 --> 00:32:45,009 Well, I thought you'd want cargill's testimony as soon as possible, sir. 490 00:32:45,047 --> 00:32:48,505 Yeah, I do. Come on. Let's get out of here. 491 00:33:04,525 --> 00:33:07,312 Baker been putting the pressure on you, too? 492 00:33:07,361 --> 00:33:09,852 What do you mean? About what a special case this is. 493 00:33:09,947 --> 00:33:11,687 Oh, no, sir. 494 00:33:11,782 --> 00:33:15,821 No lectures about what baker thinks fleischacker thinks the general thinks? 495 00:33:15,869 --> 00:33:18,861 No, sir. Why? Nothing. 496 00:33:18,956 --> 00:33:21,447 But just understand one thing, Evans. 497 00:33:21,542 --> 00:33:24,158 This is no different than any other case in this office. 498 00:33:24,253 --> 00:33:25,538 Yes, sir. 499 00:33:43,313 --> 00:33:45,804 What's the matter? 500 00:33:45,858 --> 00:33:48,190 I'm sorry, but I can't go with you. 501 00:33:48,277 --> 00:33:49,357 I've got to go back. 502 00:33:49,445 --> 00:33:52,608 That overtime? Yeah. Good night, Evans. 503 00:34:49,296 --> 00:34:50,661 Did you see this? 504 00:34:52,466 --> 00:34:54,527 What's the matter, you've been here all night, or what? 505 00:34:54,551 --> 00:34:56,837 What's the matter? What happened? 506 00:34:59,556 --> 00:35:02,389 What's the matter? Nothing's the matter. 507 00:35:04,144 --> 00:35:06,806 Take a look at that. What about it? 508 00:35:06,855 --> 00:35:10,894 What about it? That is an order from the general. 509 00:35:10,984 --> 00:35:14,101 Well, one thing's for certain, it's not an order from any sergeant, sergeant. 510 00:35:14,154 --> 00:35:16,816 Oh, come on now, no jokes. Look at that signature, will you? 511 00:35:16,865 --> 00:35:19,652 "Signed, Joseph Connors, lieutenant general commanding." 512 00:35:19,743 --> 00:35:22,200 Now, just any order would be signed by his adjutant. 513 00:35:22,287 --> 00:35:23,823 But when the general signs the order himself, 514 00:35:23,831 --> 00:35:26,243 that is significant, that is really significant. 515 00:35:26,333 --> 00:35:27,869 "In view of the backlog of work" 516 00:35:27,918 --> 00:35:30,159 "which has been observed in some divisions of this headquarters," 517 00:35:30,170 --> 00:35:32,001 "it is directed that all accumulated work" 518 00:35:32,089 --> 00:35:34,000 "be completed with efficiency and dispatch." 519 00:35:34,091 --> 00:35:35,752 "With efficiency and dispatch.” 520 00:35:35,843 --> 00:35:38,425 Now, I'm telling you, the colonel is in trouble. 521 00:35:38,512 --> 00:35:40,844 You think this is really directed at the colonel? 522 00:35:40,931 --> 00:35:42,891 The only way the old man could make it any plainer 523 00:35:42,933 --> 00:35:44,673 would be to put up a neon sign saying, 524 00:35:44,726 --> 00:35:46,591 "don't waste time on the cargill case." 525 00:35:46,687 --> 00:35:49,804 Sergeant, I think you're jumping to conclusions. 526 00:35:51,275 --> 00:35:52,390 Am I? 527 00:35:53,819 --> 00:35:55,684 Hey, wait a minute, you can't do that. 528 00:35:55,737 --> 00:35:57,102 I know. 529 00:35:57,197 --> 00:35:59,529 That's an official document. I'll bring it back. 530 00:35:59,616 --> 00:36:01,010 I'm just gonna check it with fleischacker... 531 00:36:01,034 --> 00:36:03,150 Check what with fleischacker? 532 00:36:07,708 --> 00:36:10,495 Good morning, sir. Good morning. 533 00:36:10,586 --> 00:36:13,168 Just wanted to make sure it didn't get mislaid, sir, that's all. 534 00:36:13,213 --> 00:36:15,249 I'll bet. 535 00:36:15,340 --> 00:36:17,706 Maybe now you'll believe me when I tell you that the general... 536 00:36:17,718 --> 00:36:19,925 Baker, uh, will you get me some coffee? 537 00:36:20,012 --> 00:36:22,628 Sir, what about the memo? Just coffee, baker. 538 00:36:22,723 --> 00:36:25,760 One or two donuts? Just coffee, baker! 539 00:36:25,809 --> 00:36:28,596 Coffee. Just coffee, baker. Coffee, baker. 540 00:36:46,788 --> 00:36:50,326 Baker says the general really meant that memo for you. 541 00:36:50,417 --> 00:36:51,827 Baker says? 542 00:36:53,587 --> 00:36:57,375 Baker and confucius seem to enjoy the same standing around here. 543 00:36:57,466 --> 00:37:00,173 We will proceed on the assumption that this memo is exactly 544 00:37:00,260 --> 00:37:05,380 what it appears to be, a general order to spruce up the entire post. 545 00:37:05,474 --> 00:37:08,261 Yes, sir. We will proceed on the assumption. 546 00:37:09,770 --> 00:37:11,806 Well, if the general had wanted to say something, 547 00:37:11,855 --> 00:37:15,188 I'm sure he'd have come right out and said it. 548 00:37:17,152 --> 00:37:18,392 Yes, sir. 549 00:37:23,325 --> 00:37:26,408 Excuse me. 550 00:37:26,495 --> 00:37:29,703 It's all right, sir. I know you must be tired. 551 00:37:29,706 --> 00:37:31,367 I'm sorry, Evans. 552 00:37:31,458 --> 00:37:33,198 They didn't have any donuts. 553 00:37:33,252 --> 00:37:34,854 Are you finished with these, sir? Thanks. Yeah. 554 00:37:34,878 --> 00:37:39,247 Baker, will you take these to the library? Yeah. 555 00:37:39,341 --> 00:37:43,880 "Techniques used by north Koreans to indoctrinate United States personnel.” 556 00:37:43,929 --> 00:37:45,294 Well... 557 00:37:45,389 --> 00:37:47,675 "Psychology of brainwashing methods." All right, baker. 558 00:37:47,724 --> 00:37:49,035 I didn't say anything. Just take them back, 559 00:37:49,059 --> 00:37:51,300 then go down to car pool and get a car. 560 00:37:51,395 --> 00:37:54,558 Are we going somewhere? Yep, we're going somewhere. 561 00:39:17,689 --> 00:39:19,771 Mrs. cargill? Yes? 562 00:39:19,858 --> 00:39:21,849 I'm colonel Edwards, investigating officer... 563 00:39:21,943 --> 00:39:24,150 My husband's on his way to your office. 564 00:39:24,237 --> 00:39:26,603 Yes, I know. That's why I'm here. 565 00:39:26,698 --> 00:39:28,734 I'd like to talk to you. 566 00:39:30,994 --> 00:39:32,484 May I come in? 567 00:39:57,604 --> 00:40:00,186 Well, you're much younger than I expected. 568 00:40:00,232 --> 00:40:02,939 I'm 32. You don't look it. 569 00:40:03,693 --> 00:40:05,103 I look it. 570 00:40:07,781 --> 00:40:10,614 Mrs. cargill, I... 571 00:40:10,700 --> 00:40:13,191 I know how painful all this must be for you, 572 00:40:13,286 --> 00:40:16,369 but unfortunately, it's necessary. 573 00:40:16,456 --> 00:40:19,823 I'm here because I'm trying very hard to be fair to your husband, 574 00:40:19,876 --> 00:40:24,290 to give him every chance, but I can't do it alone. I need help. 575 00:40:25,715 --> 00:40:28,377 How do you expect me to help? 576 00:40:28,468 --> 00:40:30,504 Believe me, I'm not your enemy. 577 00:40:30,595 --> 00:40:32,756 Or your husband's. 578 00:40:32,806 --> 00:40:38,142 But you must know he's facing serious charges and he refuses to defend himself. 579 00:40:39,855 --> 00:40:41,971 He refuses to defend himself? 580 00:40:42,649 --> 00:40:44,230 Didn't you know? 581 00:40:45,444 --> 00:40:46,900 No. 582 00:40:48,113 --> 00:40:49,694 You really didn't know, did you? 583 00:40:50,782 --> 00:40:54,445 No. 584 00:40:54,536 --> 00:40:58,620 Well, can you think of any reason why he won't defend himself? 585 00:40:58,707 --> 00:41:00,914 Have you come here to ask me to appear as a witness? 586 00:41:01,001 --> 00:41:05,370 Yes, I have. Because I think there's more to this case than we can see. 587 00:41:09,259 --> 00:41:12,217 Now, if you're afraid you might betray him 588 00:41:12,304 --> 00:41:14,169 or might hurt his chances in any way, 589 00:41:14,222 --> 00:41:16,463 just let me say that things couldn't be any worse for him 590 00:41:16,558 --> 00:41:19,265 than they are right now. 591 00:41:19,352 --> 00:41:21,593 What're you going to do to him? 592 00:41:21,646 --> 00:41:23,136 On the strength of what we've learned, 593 00:41:23,190 --> 00:41:25,431 I'm afraid he'll get the limit. 594 00:41:30,238 --> 00:41:31,853 So, you see, Mrs. cargill, 595 00:41:31,948 --> 00:41:34,439 you can only help him by telling everything you know. 596 00:41:37,537 --> 00:41:39,744 I don't know anything. 597 00:41:39,789 --> 00:41:43,782 Well, what has he said about his life in the prison camp? 598 00:41:43,877 --> 00:41:46,118 He hasn't said a thing. 599 00:41:46,213 --> 00:41:50,798 In all the months he's been back, he's said nothing? 600 00:41:50,884 --> 00:41:54,251 Maybe there are some things a man doesn't want to talk about. 601 00:41:54,346 --> 00:41:56,302 Or can't talk about. 602 00:41:56,473 --> 00:41:58,213 Even to his own wife? 603 00:42:00,393 --> 00:42:02,258 Especially to his own wife. 604 00:42:02,354 --> 00:42:06,939 Well, didn't you ask? Weren't you curious? 605 00:42:06,983 --> 00:42:10,896 He was gone two years, eight months and seventeen days. 606 00:42:12,656 --> 00:42:14,396 Yes, I was curious. 607 00:42:16,576 --> 00:42:19,534 Oh, I thought it would come in time. 608 00:42:19,621 --> 00:42:22,784 That if he wanted to tell me, he would. 609 00:42:22,874 --> 00:42:25,331 But he never has. What does he talk about? 610 00:42:25,418 --> 00:42:29,457 Oh, what do people talk about when they don't want to talk? 611 00:42:29,548 --> 00:42:33,211 Little things, meaningless things. Nothing worth remembering. 612 00:42:33,301 --> 00:42:36,008 Well, since he's been back, hasn't he... 613 00:42:36,096 --> 00:42:39,133 Hasn't he revealed something accidentally? 614 00:42:39,182 --> 00:42:41,798 No. You know, a slip of some kind? 615 00:42:41,851 --> 00:42:43,762 A story he started to tell and didn't finish, 616 00:42:43,853 --> 00:42:45,434 anything like that? 617 00:42:45,522 --> 00:42:47,183 No. 618 00:42:47,274 --> 00:42:50,687 He's told you absolutely nothing? 619 00:42:50,777 --> 00:42:55,396 Well, I remember something that he said on his first day back. 620 00:42:57,158 --> 00:43:02,824 He said, "why is it that most people can only belong to" 621 00:43:02,914 --> 00:43:07,999 “a family, a country, a religion?" 622 00:43:08,044 --> 00:43:12,208 "Why can't they all belong to just one thing, the human race?" 623 00:43:14,551 --> 00:43:19,466 Mrs. cargill, a man who felt that way might be ripe for a cause, 624 00:43:19,556 --> 00:43:21,200 and if it were the wrong cause, I'm afraid... 625 00:43:21,224 --> 00:43:23,010 So you really think he went over to them? 626 00:43:23,059 --> 00:43:24,549 No, no, no. I didn't say that. 627 00:43:24,686 --> 00:43:26,551 But you think it's possible? Isn't it? 628 00:43:26,605 --> 00:43:28,687 Is that what they've done? 629 00:43:28,773 --> 00:43:32,140 Have they twisted our thinking so that a man has to be afraid 630 00:43:32,235 --> 00:43:33,850 of a decent instinct? 631 00:43:33,945 --> 00:43:37,153 So that he has to be ashamed to show some concern for his fellow man? 632 00:43:37,240 --> 00:43:39,481 I'm sorry, Mrs. cargill, but it's an old trick to 633 00:43:39,576 --> 00:43:42,659 hide an ugly reality behind a beautiful phrase. 634 00:43:42,746 --> 00:43:44,987 He's been through so much. Why don't you let him go? 635 00:43:45,081 --> 00:43:47,322 The fact that he's been through so much is no defense. 636 00:43:47,375 --> 00:43:50,082 For his own sake, we've got to make him talk. 637 00:43:50,170 --> 00:43:52,582 But can't you understand how he feels? 638 00:43:52,672 --> 00:43:56,256 He's a very sensitive man and he's been deeply hurt. 639 00:43:56,343 --> 00:43:57,799 Nobody wants him. 640 00:43:57,844 --> 00:43:59,835 His own men have turned against him. 641 00:43:59,929 --> 00:44:02,796 He's nobody. He has no place to stand. 642 00:44:04,392 --> 00:44:06,849 Oh, colonel, please give him a place. 643 00:44:07,020 --> 00:44:08,260 Give him a place! 644 00:44:08,355 --> 00:44:11,267 I can't do a thing, Mrs. Cargill, until I know his story. 645 00:44:11,358 --> 00:44:13,269 He's got to talk. 646 00:44:14,569 --> 00:44:17,481 And you want me to make him talk. Is that all? 647 00:44:17,530 --> 00:44:19,270 Yes. 648 00:44:19,366 --> 00:44:20,651 Colonel... 649 00:44:22,702 --> 00:44:28,242 Colonel, he's been home five months. Five months. 650 00:44:28,333 --> 00:44:33,953 And in all that time, we haven't even been to bed together. 651 00:44:36,883 --> 00:44:39,340 And you want me to make him talk. 652 00:44:49,104 --> 00:44:51,095 Mrs. cargill, please. 653 00:44:53,483 --> 00:44:54,643 Please, please, Mrs. cargill. 654 00:44:54,734 --> 00:44:57,851 Colonel, somebody's got to help him. 655 00:45:00,365 --> 00:45:02,572 There must be a way. There must! 656 00:45:02,659 --> 00:45:05,446 I'm trying, Mrs. cargill. Believe me, I'm trying. 657 00:45:11,876 --> 00:45:13,332 I'm sorry. 658 00:45:13,378 --> 00:45:15,960 No, no, no, that's quite all right. 659 00:45:24,305 --> 00:45:27,797 Before I go, I've got to ask you just one more question. 660 00:45:28,977 --> 00:45:30,558 Yes. 661 00:45:30,645 --> 00:45:34,137 Was there any particular thing of which your husband was afraid? 662 00:45:34,190 --> 00:45:36,647 Afraid? Yes, did he have any experiences 663 00:45:36,693 --> 00:45:39,480 during the war or even before that might have given him 664 00:45:39,529 --> 00:45:42,521 a strong fear, an anxiety of some kind? 665 00:45:43,742 --> 00:45:45,733 A fear? Mmm-hmm. 666 00:45:46,619 --> 00:45:49,907 No, I don't think so. 667 00:45:49,998 --> 00:45:55,618 No, the only time I remember him even mentioning the word was 668 00:45:55,712 --> 00:45:58,203 once in a letter and I don't suppose that's what you mean. 669 00:45:58,298 --> 00:46:01,290 No, no, no, go on. You tell me. 670 00:46:01,384 --> 00:46:06,344 Well, he just said, "I have finally become afraid." 671 00:46:06,431 --> 00:46:08,342 Yes? 672 00:46:08,433 --> 00:46:11,971 I remember it because he'd never written anything like that before. 673 00:46:12,061 --> 00:46:14,677 Why was he afraid? Did he say why? 674 00:46:16,149 --> 00:46:17,935 No, I don't think so. 675 00:46:20,236 --> 00:46:22,227 It's been such a long time. Nine years. 676 00:46:22,322 --> 00:46:25,780 Please. Whatever you can remember might be of some help. 677 00:46:29,662 --> 00:46:32,745 I remember how he ended the letter. 678 00:46:32,791 --> 00:46:34,452 It was a quotation of some sort. 679 00:46:34,542 --> 00:46:36,078 Mmm-hmm. 680 00:46:36,169 --> 00:46:41,914 He said, "who kills one man kills the whole world." 681 00:46:42,008 --> 00:46:46,877 And then he added, "how many worlds have I killed?" 682 00:46:49,432 --> 00:46:54,051 "Who kills one man kills the whole world." 683 00:46:56,523 --> 00:46:58,809 "How many worlds have I killed?" 684 00:47:00,068 --> 00:47:02,309 Does that help you in some way? 685 00:47:03,988 --> 00:47:05,899 I don't know, Mrs. cargill. 686 00:47:05,990 --> 00:47:07,946 I'm not sure, but it might. 687 00:47:08,034 --> 00:47:10,366 Well, thank you very much for talking to me. 688 00:47:10,453 --> 00:47:12,819 I'm sorry I had to bother you. Thank you. 689 00:47:12,914 --> 00:47:14,199 Goodbye. 690 00:47:19,754 --> 00:47:22,541 Colonel. Yes? 691 00:47:30,974 --> 00:47:36,594 Colonel, if you do find out anything, 692 00:47:36,646 --> 00:47:39,308 I mean, if he tells you anything, 693 00:47:40,275 --> 00:47:42,857 you will let me know, won't you? 694 00:47:44,028 --> 00:47:46,019 Yes, of course I will. 695 00:47:48,408 --> 00:47:49,739 Thank you. 696 00:47:52,203 --> 00:47:53,909 I'll be waiting. 697 00:47:55,915 --> 00:47:57,871 Goodbye, Mrs. cargill. 698 00:47:59,002 --> 00:48:00,117 Bye. 699 00:48:20,398 --> 00:48:22,730 I'll call for you when I'm ready. 700 00:48:36,789 --> 00:48:39,326 Major cargill's waiting, sir. I know. 701 00:48:53,306 --> 00:48:55,137 Evans, he's two different men. Sir? 702 00:48:55,224 --> 00:48:58,091 The man we saw here yesterday and the man his wife described. 703 00:48:58,144 --> 00:48:59,384 Two different men. His wife? 704 00:48:59,479 --> 00:49:01,595 Yeah, I was just talking to her. 705 00:49:01,648 --> 00:49:05,266 And I'm glad I did, too, because that man out there and her cargill... 706 00:49:06,486 --> 00:49:08,977 Well, her cargill just doesn't commit treason. 707 00:49:09,072 --> 00:49:10,482 Well, maybe her cargill changed, sir. 708 00:49:10,490 --> 00:49:12,697 Of course he changed. But how? Why? 709 00:49:12,784 --> 00:49:14,945 Well, perhaps it was a causative factor that... 710 00:49:15,036 --> 00:49:18,824 "Causative factor"? Evans, where'd you ever dig up a dusty phrase like that? 711 00:49:18,873 --> 00:49:20,738 Well, my father was a lawyer. 712 00:49:22,043 --> 00:49:23,078 Really? 713 00:49:24,087 --> 00:49:25,577 It's not so unusual, sir. 714 00:49:25,630 --> 00:49:27,541 There are about 200,000 lawyers in this country. 715 00:49:27,590 --> 00:49:29,956 So it shouldn't surprise you so. 716 00:49:33,429 --> 00:49:37,263 Everything about you surprises me, Evans. 717 00:49:37,350 --> 00:49:41,059 Sir, we were talking about a causative factor. 718 00:49:41,145 --> 00:49:43,852 Oh, yeah. Yeah, we were. 719 00:49:43,940 --> 00:49:47,649 What I was going to say is that something happened to change cargill. 720 00:49:47,735 --> 00:49:51,728 Something big and obviously rather sudden because... 721 00:49:53,866 --> 00:49:55,356 Hey, wait a minute. Yes, sir? 722 00:49:55,451 --> 00:49:57,612 Miller's testimony yesterday. Yes, sir. 723 00:49:57,704 --> 00:50:00,161 There was something in there when he was describing how cargill went over. 724 00:50:00,164 --> 00:50:04,077 Didn't he say something like, "somebody..." 725 00:50:04,127 --> 00:50:06,163 "Somebody means business now." Wasn't that it? 726 00:50:06,254 --> 00:50:07,619 Well, if he said it, I can find it. 727 00:50:07,630 --> 00:50:08,630 Good. 728 00:50:18,391 --> 00:50:20,222 You got it? Here it is, sir. 729 00:50:23,021 --> 00:50:25,763 I can't read this. I'm sorry. 730 00:50:25,815 --> 00:50:28,773 "Don't be such heroes, this man means business now." 731 00:50:29,652 --> 00:50:31,984 That's it. That's it. That's it. 732 00:50:32,071 --> 00:50:34,938 "This man means business now." 733 00:50:34,991 --> 00:50:37,232 And this man has got to be colonel Kim. 734 00:50:37,326 --> 00:50:40,568 Colonel Kim means business now. 735 00:50:40,663 --> 00:50:42,824 And it happened suddenly. They all said suddenly, didn't they? 736 00:50:42,832 --> 00:50:44,163 I think so, sir. I'll check. 737 00:50:44,250 --> 00:50:46,366 And the important word is now. 738 00:50:46,461 --> 00:50:49,248 Not a month ago or a week ago, but now. 739 00:50:49,422 --> 00:50:51,378 That's the word. You got it? 740 00:50:51,466 --> 00:50:54,549 "The thing happened very suddenly, it took us all by surprise." 741 00:50:54,635 --> 00:51:00,130 "It happened suddenly. It took us all by surprise." 742 00:51:00,224 --> 00:51:01,930 Suddenly, suddenly, suddenly, suddenly... 743 00:51:02,018 --> 00:51:03,258 Sir. What? 744 00:51:03,352 --> 00:51:04,788 I don't want to interfere with your train of thought... 745 00:51:04,812 --> 00:51:06,473 No, don't worry about that, go ahead. What've you got? 746 00:51:06,481 --> 00:51:08,972 Well, sir, speaking of repetitive wordage... 747 00:51:09,025 --> 00:51:10,686 What do you mean, repetitive wordage? 748 00:51:10,777 --> 00:51:13,088 Well, sir, it's true they all said it happened very suddenly. 749 00:51:13,112 --> 00:51:14,852 But there's something else, too. What? 750 00:51:14,947 --> 00:51:16,938 Well, when you were talking about... 751 00:51:16,991 --> 00:51:18,947 When the men were describing the... 752 00:51:19,035 --> 00:51:20,991 The deaths of Harvey and Connors, 753 00:51:21,079 --> 00:51:22,694 they all used very similar phrases 754 00:51:22,789 --> 00:51:25,246 in describing the disease and its consequences 755 00:51:25,333 --> 00:51:28,325 like bacillary dysentery and dehydration... 756 00:51:28,419 --> 00:51:30,522 Well, that's only natural. They didn't have any doctors, 757 00:51:30,546 --> 00:51:33,413 they had to be familiar with all kinds of... 758 00:51:34,884 --> 00:51:37,751 Repetitive wordage. 759 00:51:37,804 --> 00:51:40,341 Did you make a note of those places, Evans? Yes, sir, I did. 760 00:51:43,142 --> 00:51:45,098 Captain Mike Stewart's testimony, sir. 761 00:51:45,186 --> 00:51:47,222 All right. 762 00:51:47,313 --> 00:51:49,429 "Question. How did lieutenant Harvey die?" 763 00:51:49,524 --> 00:51:52,891 "Answer. He died following an acute case of dysentery." 764 00:51:54,153 --> 00:51:55,689 Mmm-hmm. 765 00:51:55,780 --> 00:51:57,987 "Bacillary dysentery, dehydration." 766 00:51:58,032 --> 00:52:00,569 You got another one, Evans? Lieutenant poleska's. 767 00:52:00,660 --> 00:52:03,572 "Died following an acute case of dysentery." 768 00:52:03,663 --> 00:52:05,528 "Bacillary dysentery." 769 00:52:05,581 --> 00:52:07,822 What's this one? And here, sir, lieutenant Harper's. 770 00:52:07,875 --> 00:52:10,912 "Died following an acute case of dysentery." 771 00:52:12,672 --> 00:52:14,913 An acute case. 772 00:52:15,007 --> 00:52:17,123 Never a bad case or a violent case, 773 00:52:17,218 --> 00:52:19,880 it's always an acute case. Yes, sir, I know. 774 00:52:19,971 --> 00:52:24,010 I think you're right, Evans. There are too many witnesses using exactly the same words. 775 00:52:24,058 --> 00:52:25,514 I thought it was significant, sir. 776 00:52:25,601 --> 00:52:27,137 You see, when you type the same phrase 777 00:52:27,186 --> 00:52:30,019 over and over, it begins to make an impression. 778 00:52:30,106 --> 00:52:34,065 Corporal, any time you want to interfere with my train of thought, 779 00:52:34,152 --> 00:52:37,815 I mean, if you notice anything that strikes you as being peculiar... 780 00:52:37,864 --> 00:52:40,071 So your father was a lawyer, huh? 781 00:52:40,825 --> 00:52:42,156 Yes, sir. 782 00:52:45,788 --> 00:52:48,780 I hope I'm not interrupting anything, bill, but I want to talk to you. 783 00:52:48,833 --> 00:52:50,664 Yes, of course, sir. 784 00:52:55,464 --> 00:52:57,401 Didn't you tell me that lieutenant Miller was your last witness 785 00:52:57,425 --> 00:52:59,791 on the cargill case? That's right, sir. 786 00:52:59,844 --> 00:53:04,133 Then why did you go to see cargill's wife? 787 00:53:04,182 --> 00:53:06,902 There's not much around this post that escapes sergeant fleischacker, 788 00:53:06,976 --> 00:53:09,012 you should know that. 789 00:53:09,103 --> 00:53:12,140 Well, cargill refuses to defend himself. I... 790 00:53:12,231 --> 00:53:14,267 I thought his wife might be helpful. 791 00:53:14,358 --> 00:53:16,565 So now you're concerned with his defense? 792 00:53:16,652 --> 00:53:18,292 Well, sir, if I'm to do my job fairly I... 793 00:53:18,362 --> 00:53:21,195 Are you suggesting that I'm asking you not to do your job fairly? 794 00:53:21,282 --> 00:53:26,151 No, sir. Bill, we've worked together for years. 795 00:53:26,245 --> 00:53:28,406 You know me as well as anyone does. I... 796 00:53:28,497 --> 00:53:31,204 I try to be fair-minded. You are. 797 00:53:31,250 --> 00:53:33,161 I've let you take your time even when I thought 798 00:53:33,252 --> 00:53:35,584 you were taking more time than was necessary. 799 00:53:35,671 --> 00:53:38,483 But Mrs. cargill is hardly a competent witness to something that happened 800 00:53:38,507 --> 00:53:41,374 in a Korean prison camp 9,000 miles away. 801 00:53:42,553 --> 00:53:45,044 Bill, I don't want to do this, 802 00:53:45,097 --> 00:53:47,930 but now I feel compelled to ask you officially for the first time, 803 00:53:47,975 --> 00:53:49,681 what's going on in this case? 804 00:53:49,769 --> 00:53:53,432 I just can't make any recommendation, sir, until I have all the facts. 805 00:53:53,522 --> 00:53:54,978 Then get 'em. Fast. 806 00:53:55,066 --> 00:53:57,682 Finish your investigation and let's have the court-martial. 807 00:53:57,777 --> 00:54:01,486 General, we can't investigate fairly if we start out by saying 808 00:54:01,572 --> 00:54:03,233 there's going to be a court-martial. 809 00:54:03,324 --> 00:54:05,315 That's prejudging the evidence. 810 00:54:05,409 --> 00:54:08,697 You mean there's even a possibility you'll not recommend a court-martial? 811 00:54:08,788 --> 00:54:12,622 Well, all I'm saying, sir, is that it's too early to tell. 812 00:54:12,708 --> 00:54:15,165 When there is clear evidence of collaboration? 813 00:54:15,211 --> 00:54:17,577 Photostats of his signature on confessions, 814 00:54:17,672 --> 00:54:20,539 recordings of his own voice making broadcasts for them? 815 00:54:20,633 --> 00:54:22,669 There are unexplained things, too, sir. 816 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,217 Insufficient motive, for one. Insufficient motive? 817 00:54:25,304 --> 00:54:26,794 Yes, sir. 818 00:54:26,889 --> 00:54:28,450 Maybe the motive was so obvious it hasn't occurred to you. 819 00:54:28,474 --> 00:54:30,556 Maybe it was planned this way. 820 00:54:30,643 --> 00:54:32,884 Sir? I think cargill may have been one of them 821 00:54:32,937 --> 00:54:35,144 before he ever got to camp gee gee. 822 00:54:35,189 --> 00:54:38,022 Well, there's nothing in the records to indicate that, sir. 823 00:54:38,067 --> 00:54:41,275 And I see nothing to indicate otherwise. 824 00:54:41,445 --> 00:54:43,982 They could make a big thing out of an American officer, a major, 825 00:54:44,031 --> 00:54:47,364 a mature, responsible man going over to them. 826 00:54:47,410 --> 00:54:52,825 Bill, this would be a lot easier on both of us, certainly on me, 827 00:54:52,915 --> 00:54:56,157 if this case had been assigned to another post. 828 00:54:56,210 --> 00:54:58,451 But the Pentagon assigned it here and here it is. 829 00:54:58,504 --> 00:55:00,495 We can't change that. 830 00:55:00,589 --> 00:55:03,831 I know. I understand that, sir. 831 00:55:03,926 --> 00:55:08,386 All right, then let's get it finished up with efficiency and dispatch. 832 00:55:10,182 --> 00:55:13,845 After all, bill, there's a human side to this, too. 833 00:55:13,936 --> 00:55:16,052 Those men, 834 00:55:16,147 --> 00:55:18,980 after the hell they went through in that prison camp, 835 00:55:19,025 --> 00:55:21,016 now we keep it hanging over them. 836 00:55:21,110 --> 00:55:24,602 The knowledge that they'll have to relive it all by testifying. 837 00:55:24,655 --> 00:55:26,987 That's quite an ordeal. 838 00:55:27,033 --> 00:55:28,844 Believe me, if you could have seen that lieutenant Miller 839 00:55:28,868 --> 00:55:32,486 yesterday at the officer's club, you'd know what I mean. 840 00:55:32,580 --> 00:55:35,287 Why, he almost broke down and... 841 00:55:35,374 --> 00:55:38,992 He almost broke down and cried when he talked about my boy. 842 00:55:41,047 --> 00:55:44,210 Told me that one of the men at the camp had died. 843 00:55:45,051 --> 00:55:47,133 At the funeral, when they... 844 00:55:47,219 --> 00:55:49,130 When they were covering up the body, 845 00:55:49,221 --> 00:55:52,679 Joe stood there at the grave site and said, 846 00:55:52,725 --> 00:55:55,558 "my brother dies that I may live." 847 00:55:57,063 --> 00:55:59,520 "May I be worthy of his sacrifice." 848 00:56:05,237 --> 00:56:06,943 Yes, that's a... 849 00:56:08,324 --> 00:56:10,736 That's a very fine sentiment, sir. 850 00:56:12,787 --> 00:56:15,028 Well, I... 851 00:56:15,081 --> 00:56:17,788 I don't mean to talk about my son. 852 00:56:17,833 --> 00:56:19,198 The only point I was making is 853 00:56:19,251 --> 00:56:20,912 we can't keep these innocent men sweating it out. 854 00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:22,785 It isn't fair to them. 855 00:56:22,838 --> 00:56:24,419 So let's get this over with fast 856 00:56:24,507 --> 00:56:27,123 and let them pick up their lives again. That's all I'm asking. 857 00:56:27,218 --> 00:56:29,254 I'll try, sir. Good. 858 00:56:30,346 --> 00:56:31,381 I knew you would. 859 00:56:33,516 --> 00:56:36,758 But I still have to be thorough. 860 00:56:36,852 --> 00:56:39,844 Thorough? I think you better get cargill's file 861 00:56:39,939 --> 00:56:41,770 and come to my office immediately. 862 00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:07,956 He said immediately, sir. 863 00:57:08,843 --> 00:57:10,128 I know. 864 00:57:36,537 --> 00:57:38,448 The cargill file, sir. 865 00:57:46,088 --> 00:57:47,203 Yeah. 866 00:57:53,721 --> 00:57:55,824 Hey, sir... get cargill in here before Miller shows up. 867 00:57:55,848 --> 00:57:57,679 I don't want those two meeting yet. 868 00:57:57,766 --> 00:57:59,131 Sir, what about the general... 869 00:57:59,185 --> 00:58:02,302 Look, baker, just this once, let me handle it, will you? 870 00:58:03,272 --> 00:58:04,808 Okay, sir. 871 00:58:07,026 --> 00:58:09,062 What's going on here, huh? 872 00:58:13,824 --> 00:58:16,065 The general's fanning his tail, huh? 873 00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:17,570 Hello, reception, Scotty? 874 00:58:17,661 --> 00:58:20,152 Scotty, you got a major cargill down there? 875 00:58:20,206 --> 00:58:23,198 Yeah. Send him up, will you? Right. 876 00:58:24,168 --> 00:58:26,750 What's happening? 877 00:58:26,837 --> 00:58:29,499 Okay. All right, don't tell me. 878 00:58:29,548 --> 00:58:32,130 You know, I don't have to be a genius to figure this one out. 879 00:58:32,218 --> 00:58:34,174 He's bucking a general. 880 00:58:34,220 --> 00:58:37,212 He's sticking his neck out for a traitor who won't even defend himself. 881 00:58:37,264 --> 00:58:39,676 Won't even tell him the truth, right? 882 00:58:39,725 --> 00:58:41,386 Right. 883 00:58:41,435 --> 00:58:45,348 I tell you, I've been in this man's army a long time and when... 884 00:58:47,107 --> 00:58:49,849 Well, excuse me, sir. 885 00:58:49,944 --> 00:58:54,187 Sir, the colonel asked if you wouldn't like to wait in his office, sir. 886 00:58:58,869 --> 00:59:01,451 Baker... Hey, you stay out of this. 887 00:59:12,341 --> 00:59:17,005 Major, sit down, sir. Make yourself comfortable. 888 00:59:23,102 --> 00:59:24,808 Like a cigarette, sir? 889 00:59:24,895 --> 00:59:26,248 Baker, would you file these for me, please? 890 00:59:26,272 --> 00:59:28,604 Oh, come on. Outside, later, huh? 891 00:59:30,985 --> 00:59:33,601 All right, all right, have it your way. 892 00:59:34,613 --> 00:59:36,353 Sir, 893 00:59:36,448 --> 00:59:40,908 we have what is commonly known as a situation around here. 894 00:59:40,995 --> 00:59:43,532 As a matter of fact, the colonel is down in the general's office 895 00:59:43,622 --> 00:59:45,362 right this minute. 896 00:59:45,457 --> 00:59:50,952 And he's in the act of what's described in military language as getting... 897 00:59:51,046 --> 00:59:54,630 He's being chewed out, as they say, sir, severely chewed out. 898 00:59:54,717 --> 00:59:56,695 Now, this doesn't seem to bother you at all, does it? 899 00:59:56,719 --> 00:59:58,380 Baker, please. Now, half the army knows 900 00:59:58,470 --> 01:00:01,587 the general is blowing his top, why shouldn't he? 901 01:00:02,349 --> 01:00:05,637 I beg your pardon, sir. 902 01:00:05,728 --> 01:00:07,163 Sure you don't want a cigarette? No, thank you. 903 01:00:07,187 --> 01:00:09,143 King size? Filter top? No, no. No, thank you. 904 01:00:09,231 --> 01:00:11,563 Oh, you can't catch anything from these things, major. 905 01:00:11,609 --> 01:00:13,565 It's got 100% purified cellulose, 906 01:00:13,652 --> 01:00:16,769 it's got activated charcoal, 907 01:00:18,073 --> 01:00:19,734 radioactive m3. 908 01:00:19,825 --> 01:00:22,316 I mean, you positively couldn't catch a thing from these. 909 01:00:22,411 --> 01:00:25,323 After all, sir, I wouldn't want to see you get cancer of the lungs. 910 01:00:25,414 --> 01:00:26,975 That's very kind of you to be so solicitous. 911 01:00:26,999 --> 01:00:29,035 Oh, sir, this is the... 912 01:00:29,126 --> 01:00:31,082 This is the most solicitous branch in the army. 913 01:00:31,170 --> 01:00:34,708 You know what we do around here, sir? We worry, don't we? 914 01:00:34,757 --> 01:00:37,043 Even about traitors. 915 01:00:37,092 --> 01:00:39,925 Take the colonel, for example. He worries about you. 916 01:00:39,970 --> 01:00:43,633 He's knocking himself out on your case and I mean out. 917 01:00:43,682 --> 01:00:45,388 So, you know what I was thinking, sir? 918 01:00:45,476 --> 01:00:47,467 Well, you're obviously a very deep thinker, sergeant. 919 01:00:47,478 --> 01:00:49,560 I wouldn't even try to guess. 920 01:00:51,690 --> 01:00:54,932 I was thinking, sir, that you could show your appreciation for 921 01:00:54,985 --> 01:00:56,705 what the colonel's doing for you by talking, 922 01:00:56,737 --> 01:00:58,523 you know, just start to tell him the truth. 923 01:00:58,614 --> 01:00:59,820 Of course, if you don't feel like doing that, sir, 924 01:00:59,823 --> 01:01:01,108 I've got another suggestion for you. 925 01:01:01,116 --> 01:01:02,572 What would you suggest? 926 01:01:02,618 --> 01:01:04,779 Well, I'm very glad you asked me because I'll tell you. 927 01:01:04,870 --> 01:01:06,389 I'll tell you why I wouldn't want you to get cancer of the lungs, sir. 928 01:01:06,413 --> 01:01:07,528 It just takes too long. 929 01:01:07,581 --> 01:01:09,071 Baker. Leave him alone, corporal. 930 01:01:09,124 --> 01:01:11,786 Thank you, sir. Now, if you'd like my suggestion, 931 01:01:11,835 --> 01:01:16,374 get a heart attack, get run over, get lost, get something. 932 01:01:16,423 --> 01:01:17,663 That's what you can do, sir. 933 01:01:17,758 --> 01:01:19,214 Baker, that's insubordination. 934 01:01:19,301 --> 01:01:20,711 Oh, is it? 935 01:01:20,803 --> 01:01:23,044 You know what happens to colonels who buck generals? 936 01:01:23,138 --> 01:01:25,379 You let the general give him one bad efficiency rating 937 01:01:25,432 --> 01:01:27,118 and he's stuck at colonel for the rest of his time. 938 01:01:27,142 --> 01:01:29,007 Well, if that's the worst thing that can happen... 939 01:01:29,019 --> 01:01:32,102 Oh, but it isn't. Comes a time when he's forced to retire. 940 01:01:32,189 --> 01:01:34,054 So? Well, now, that might be all right with you, 941 01:01:34,066 --> 01:01:35,806 but it wouldn't be all right with him. 942 01:01:35,901 --> 01:01:37,921 I'm going to explain something to you, miss phi beta kappa. 943 01:01:37,945 --> 01:01:39,560 When one is retired by the army, 944 01:01:39,613 --> 01:01:41,649 one does not put an ad in the New York times saying, 945 01:01:41,657 --> 01:01:45,115 "us army man with top experience wants a job in another army." 946 01:01:45,202 --> 01:01:46,988 There's only one army in this country. 947 01:01:47,079 --> 01:01:48,535 It's a monopoly. 948 01:01:48,622 --> 01:01:50,829 It might be illegal but it's true. 949 01:01:50,874 --> 01:01:54,537 So for an ex-army man, there's no other place to go. 950 01:01:54,628 --> 01:01:56,493 Now, the army needs guys like the colonel, 951 01:01:56,588 --> 01:01:58,249 because he's fair, he listens 952 01:01:58,340 --> 01:01:59,876 and he'll give a guy a break. 953 01:01:59,967 --> 01:02:02,237 So for the army's sake, I wouldn't want to see him get fouled up 954 01:02:02,261 --> 01:02:05,219 and especially not because of anybody like you. 955 01:02:05,973 --> 01:02:07,383 You got it, sir? 956 01:02:24,700 --> 01:02:28,033 You know, he's right about one thing. 957 01:02:29,830 --> 01:02:32,537 If you talked, you'd make it easier for the colonel. 958 01:02:34,626 --> 01:02:37,993 Look, all he's asking you to do is tell the truth, 959 01:02:38,046 --> 01:02:40,162 so he can make a fair recommendation. 960 01:02:40,215 --> 01:02:43,298 Truth? It can only help you. 961 01:02:43,385 --> 01:02:46,252 Why does everybody put such store in the truth? 962 01:02:46,346 --> 01:02:50,055 Why is truth considered to be so bright and shining and wonderful? 963 01:02:50,100 --> 01:02:53,809 Truth can be rotten and destructive and more vicious than any lie. 964 01:02:53,896 --> 01:02:57,138 Because a lie might die one day, but the truth never dies. 965 01:02:57,232 --> 01:02:59,393 So don't urge the truth on me. I've seen it. 966 01:02:59,485 --> 01:03:02,352 The filth, the torture, the misery, 967 01:03:02,404 --> 01:03:04,645 what one man can do to another. 968 01:03:05,449 --> 01:03:07,405 There's your truth. 969 01:03:07,493 --> 01:03:09,179 But if it could save you or if it could help you in some way... 970 01:03:09,203 --> 01:03:11,615 You can take a piece of granite and put it under pressure 971 01:03:11,705 --> 01:03:13,741 until the heat that's created will turn that stone to liquid. 972 01:03:13,749 --> 01:03:15,956 Did you know that? Granite! 973 01:03:16,043 --> 01:03:17,999 They call that a scientific phenomenon. 974 01:03:18,086 --> 01:03:19,576 Well, there's another phenomenon. 975 01:03:19,630 --> 01:03:21,316 It has to do with something much less durable than granite. 976 01:03:21,340 --> 01:03:23,296 It has to do with the mind of man. 977 01:03:23,383 --> 01:03:25,965 Now, you put that under enough pressure and it turns to water. 978 01:03:26,053 --> 01:03:28,323 When that happens, they don't call that a scientific phenomenon. 979 01:03:28,347 --> 01:03:31,180 They just say he's a coward, no good, rotten. 980 01:03:32,434 --> 01:03:33,640 They never understand. 981 01:03:33,685 --> 01:03:35,391 Well, the colonel wants to understand. 982 01:03:35,479 --> 01:03:38,471 He wants to know what kind of pressure was put on you. 983 01:03:38,649 --> 01:03:41,106 Look, you can talk to him. 984 01:03:41,193 --> 01:03:44,230 Why don't you defend yourself? Why don't you care anymore? 985 01:03:44,238 --> 01:03:47,230 It isn't any one thing that makes a man not care anymore. 986 01:03:47,324 --> 01:03:50,407 It isn't that simple. So nobody's asking for any simple answers. 987 01:03:50,452 --> 01:03:52,113 There aren't any answers! 988 01:03:54,623 --> 01:03:56,488 Just let it go at that. 989 01:04:11,974 --> 01:04:13,510 Sit down, cargill. 990 01:04:16,770 --> 01:04:19,307 If I remember correctly, you smoke, don't you, major? 991 01:04:20,816 --> 01:04:21,931 No, thank you. 992 01:04:24,403 --> 01:04:26,985 I want to apologize for yesterday. 993 01:04:27,155 --> 01:04:29,521 I mean about running that tape recording so long. 994 01:04:29,616 --> 01:04:31,496 I didn't realize you were so sensitive about it. 995 01:04:32,828 --> 01:04:35,069 I only hope you've recovered sufficiently 996 01:04:35,163 --> 01:04:37,950 so that today you can answer some questions. 997 01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:39,920 I don't know any more today than I did yesterday. 998 01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,640 Then perhaps today you'll tell me a little more of what you do know. 999 01:04:42,671 --> 01:04:44,207 Look, I told you yesterday, I'm guilty. 1000 01:04:44,298 --> 01:04:46,960 Now I don't see any point in going over the same ground again. 1001 01:04:47,050 --> 01:04:51,214 Oh, we're not going over the same ground, major. 1002 01:04:51,305 --> 01:04:54,172 I'd like to touch on some things that we didn't even mention yesterday. 1003 01:04:56,560 --> 01:05:00,599 Like a certain sequence of events which becomes very striking. 1004 01:05:00,689 --> 01:05:03,329 Sequence of events? A definite pattern of life in that prison camp. 1005 01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,857 Brainwashing, starvation, sickness, death. 1006 01:05:05,944 --> 01:05:08,902 For nine months. Yet no man broke. 1007 01:05:08,989 --> 01:05:12,072 And there was a period of three months when nobody died. 1008 01:05:12,701 --> 01:05:14,441 And then suddenly, 1009 01:05:14,494 --> 01:05:18,612 very suddenly, as a matter of fact, in a 48-hour period, 1010 01:05:18,707 --> 01:05:22,575 lieutenant Harvey died, captain Connors died, 1011 01:05:24,254 --> 01:05:25,254 and you broke. 1012 01:05:25,923 --> 01:05:27,879 That's right. 1013 01:05:27,966 --> 01:05:29,444 Was there any connection between the deaths of Harvey and Connors 1014 01:05:29,468 --> 01:05:31,459 and your breaking? None. 1015 01:05:31,553 --> 01:05:33,509 Your breaking followed their deaths so closely, 1016 01:05:33,555 --> 01:05:35,011 I think there must be a connection. 1017 01:05:35,098 --> 01:05:36,713 I'm telling you there wasn't. 1018 01:05:39,436 --> 01:05:40,436 All right. 1019 01:05:42,022 --> 01:05:43,637 I accept it. 1020 01:05:43,732 --> 01:05:45,893 Incidentally, how did Harvey die? 1021 01:05:48,654 --> 01:05:50,315 I don't remember. 1022 01:05:50,405 --> 01:05:52,236 You don't remember? 1023 01:05:52,324 --> 01:05:53,604 A man can't remember everything. 1024 01:05:55,202 --> 01:05:57,693 No, of course not. 1025 01:05:57,746 --> 01:06:01,079 Major, at whose burial did you say, "my brother dies that I may live. 1026 01:06:01,166 --> 01:06:03,122 "May I be worthy of his sacrifice"? 1027 01:06:04,711 --> 01:06:06,042 They told you that, did they? 1028 01:06:06,088 --> 01:06:08,316 There can't be any harm in admitting you said it, can there? 1029 01:06:08,340 --> 01:06:09,921 I said it. Why? 1030 01:06:11,426 --> 01:06:14,589 If you were to give some reason as to why you broke, 1031 01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:16,261 what would that reason be? 1032 01:06:17,766 --> 01:06:20,052 I suppose that some men are weaker than others. 1033 01:06:20,143 --> 01:06:22,850 You mean then, that you were the weakest man in your shack? 1034 01:06:22,938 --> 01:06:24,553 Evidently. You signed confessions, 1035 01:06:24,606 --> 01:06:26,000 you made broadcasts, you gave lectures, 1036 01:06:26,024 --> 01:06:27,980 all because you were weak? 1037 01:06:28,860 --> 01:06:30,145 A man wants to stay alive. 1038 01:06:30,237 --> 01:06:32,444 And in your desire to stay alive, 1039 01:06:32,531 --> 01:06:34,567 you didn't think of the effect of what you did? 1040 01:06:34,658 --> 01:06:37,320 Effect? It didn't trouble you that probably 200 million asiatics 1041 01:06:37,411 --> 01:06:39,117 were hanging in the balance? 1042 01:06:39,204 --> 01:06:41,160 That your words were weapons against everything 1043 01:06:41,206 --> 01:06:42,600 you ever believed in. That didn't matter? 1044 01:06:42,624 --> 01:06:44,580 No. It didn't matter. It didn't matter 1045 01:06:44,710 --> 01:06:46,746 that you might be endangering the lives of millions of your own countrymen, 1046 01:06:46,753 --> 01:06:49,039 because that's what it'll cost if Asia falls to the enemy. 1047 01:06:49,047 --> 01:06:50,358 That didn't matter? I told you before. 1048 01:06:50,382 --> 01:06:52,276 How many times do I have to tell you? It didn't matter. 1049 01:06:52,300 --> 01:06:55,463 Well, tell me again, major Harry cargill, specialist on germ warfare. 1050 01:06:55,554 --> 01:06:57,761 Shut up! 1051 01:06:57,806 --> 01:07:00,047 What's the matter, major? Don't you like the sound of it? 1052 01:07:00,851 --> 01:07:02,512 Do you know what I think? 1053 01:07:02,602 --> 01:07:05,309 I think you were frightened by that recording yesterday, 1054 01:07:05,355 --> 01:07:07,346 because it haunts you. 1055 01:07:07,399 --> 01:07:10,436 I think you're haunted by the ghosts of dead minds as well as dead bodies. 1056 01:07:10,485 --> 01:07:13,147 Minds that you helped to kill by your broadcast. 1057 01:07:13,238 --> 01:07:15,194 Minds that were pushed over the brink by you. 1058 01:07:15,282 --> 01:07:16,772 Isn't that right, major? 1059 01:07:16,867 --> 01:07:18,073 I told you to shut up! Answer me. Isn't that right? 1060 01:07:18,076 --> 01:07:19,316 I don't have to answer. Answer me! 1061 01:07:19,327 --> 01:07:20,722 What kind of an inquisition is this? 1062 01:07:20,746 --> 01:07:22,111 You'd like it to be an inquisition, wouldn't you? 1063 01:07:22,122 --> 01:07:23,737 But it's not going to be. 1064 01:07:23,790 --> 01:07:25,781 You're going to be defended, whether you like it or not, 1065 01:07:25,792 --> 01:07:29,205 because we've got a standard of justice we'll follow in spite of you. 1066 01:07:29,254 --> 01:07:30,869 Standard of justice? 1067 01:07:30,922 --> 01:07:33,504 You poor fool. That's ancient history, colonel. 1068 01:07:33,592 --> 01:07:35,332 You're out of style, you and your standards. 1069 01:07:35,427 --> 01:07:36,837 You're obsolete. 1070 01:07:36,928 --> 01:07:40,921 It's a new kind of world. Kill, destroy, dog eat dog. 1071 01:07:41,016 --> 01:07:42,285 And maybe that's the way it ought to be, 1072 01:07:42,309 --> 01:07:44,269 because I don't think mankind deserves any better. 1073 01:07:44,311 --> 01:07:46,393 You really believe that? Yes, I believe that! 1074 01:07:47,814 --> 01:07:49,930 "Who kills one man kills the whole world. 1075 01:07:49,983 --> 01:07:51,598 "How many worlds have I killed"? 1076 01:07:55,697 --> 01:07:57,062 Where did you hear that? 1077 01:07:57,657 --> 01:07:58,692 Your wife. 1078 01:07:59,618 --> 01:08:01,074 My wife? 1079 01:08:01,119 --> 01:08:02,859 You leave her out of this... 1080 01:08:02,913 --> 01:08:04,824 I'll get my information any way I can, cargill. 1081 01:08:04,873 --> 01:08:06,238 Now get in here. 1082 01:08:06,333 --> 01:08:07,602 You had no right. I don't care what you do to me, 1083 01:08:07,626 --> 01:08:09,266 but you've got no... Now, that's an order! 1084 01:08:17,469 --> 01:08:18,959 Miller here yet? Yes, sir. 1085 01:08:19,054 --> 01:08:20,260 All right, get him in here. Sir, here are the carbons 1086 01:08:20,263 --> 01:08:21,719 from Miller's testimony. Okay, thanks. 1087 01:08:21,723 --> 01:08:22,963 Get baker, too. Yes, sir. 1088 01:08:43,453 --> 01:08:44,453 Come in, lieutenant. 1089 01:08:50,669 --> 01:08:51,669 Sit down. 1090 01:08:54,881 --> 01:08:56,667 There isn't much we have to cover today. 1091 01:08:56,758 --> 01:08:58,402 I was just going over your testimony last night. 1092 01:08:58,426 --> 01:09:01,384 I'd like to clear up a few minor points. 1093 01:09:03,431 --> 01:09:05,467 Well, I'll do anything I can to help, sir. 1094 01:09:05,559 --> 01:09:08,551 That's fine. I knew you would. 1095 01:09:08,645 --> 01:09:11,887 Now first, when cargill said, "this man means business now," 1096 01:09:12,941 --> 01:09:14,147 what was he referring to? 1097 01:09:15,569 --> 01:09:18,732 Cargill said that? That's what you told me yesterday. 1098 01:09:18,822 --> 01:09:20,687 No, sir. I don't think I said that. Oh, yes. 1099 01:09:20,782 --> 01:09:22,488 Yes, you did, lieutenant. You said... 1100 01:09:23,702 --> 01:09:25,033 You said, "cargill said," 1101 01:09:25,078 --> 01:09:29,367 "don't be such heroes. This man means business now." 1102 01:09:29,457 --> 01:09:31,497 Well, if it's in there, I guess I must have said it. 1103 01:09:32,169 --> 01:09:33,705 I'm sorry, sir. I forgot, I guess. 1104 01:09:33,753 --> 01:09:35,368 What did he mean by that? 1105 01:09:35,463 --> 01:09:37,223 Well, that's pretty obvious, isn't it? Is it? 1106 01:09:38,133 --> 01:09:39,714 Well, yes. 1107 01:09:39,801 --> 01:09:42,884 The way I figure, colonel Kim must have been getting impatient. 1108 01:09:42,971 --> 01:09:46,088 You know, all that time had gone by, nobody cracked or anything, 1109 01:09:46,141 --> 01:09:48,974 so he's getting ready for his showdown. And was he? 1110 01:09:49,060 --> 01:09:52,302 I don't know, sir. It was cargill that said it, not me. 1111 01:09:53,064 --> 01:09:54,064 Yes. 1112 01:09:55,275 --> 01:09:58,017 Speaking of things cargill said. 1113 01:09:58,069 --> 01:10:03,063 "My brother dies that I may live. May I be worthy of his sacrifice." 1114 01:10:03,116 --> 01:10:05,277 Did cargill say that? Yes, sir. 1115 01:10:05,327 --> 01:10:06,942 Or did captain Connors say that? 1116 01:10:07,037 --> 01:10:08,368 No, sir. Cargill said it. 1117 01:10:08,413 --> 01:10:10,028 But you told the general his son said it. 1118 01:10:11,499 --> 01:10:13,581 Sir, with all... 1119 01:10:13,668 --> 01:10:15,249 With all due respect to the general, 1120 01:10:15,337 --> 01:10:17,897 he must've misunderstood me, because it was cargill that said it. 1121 01:10:19,007 --> 01:10:20,087 I see. 1122 01:10:21,176 --> 01:10:23,258 Now another thing, Miller. 1123 01:10:23,345 --> 01:10:26,337 In the 48 hours before cargill broke, two men died. 1124 01:10:26,431 --> 01:10:28,012 Lieutenant Harvey and captain Connors. 1125 01:10:28,099 --> 01:10:29,839 That's right, sir. I told you about that yesterday, sir. 1126 01:10:29,851 --> 01:10:33,343 Yes, I know you did. Now I wonder if you'd mind telling me how Harvey died. 1127 01:10:33,438 --> 01:10:34,848 I told you that, too. Yesterday. 1128 01:10:34,940 --> 01:10:37,397 You can tell me again, can't you? 1129 01:10:37,525 --> 01:10:38,856 Yes, sir. Go ahead. 1130 01:10:41,863 --> 01:10:45,071 Lieutenant Harvey died following an acute case of dysentery. 1131 01:10:45,158 --> 01:10:46,318 And Connors? Same thing. 1132 01:10:46,409 --> 01:10:47,649 An acute case of dysentery? 1133 01:10:47,744 --> 01:10:48,846 Yes, sir. You're sure of this? 1134 01:10:48,870 --> 01:10:50,986 Yes, sir, I'm sure. I was there. 1135 01:10:58,296 --> 01:10:59,296 Come in. 1136 01:11:04,636 --> 01:11:05,636 By the door, baker. 1137 01:11:08,223 --> 01:11:09,463 All right, major, come in. 1138 01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:21,360 Stand over there. 1139 01:11:34,165 --> 01:11:35,655 Now, Miller, I'd like you to tell me 1140 01:11:35,750 --> 01:11:39,038 how lieutenant Harvey and captain Connors died. 1141 01:11:39,129 --> 01:11:40,994 I told you. I want to hear it again. 1142 01:11:41,047 --> 01:11:42,967 Not everyone seems to have the same memory of it. 1143 01:11:47,595 --> 01:11:49,677 They died of dysentery. 1144 01:11:50,932 --> 01:11:53,344 You see, sir, in cases of bacillary dysentery, 1145 01:11:53,435 --> 01:11:55,847 the incidence of death is pretty high. 1146 01:11:57,272 --> 01:11:58,762 Especially when there's no medicine. 1147 01:12:01,276 --> 01:12:03,016 You see, what happens is... 1148 01:12:05,864 --> 01:12:07,900 Dehydration sets in. 1149 01:12:17,208 --> 01:12:18,414 Dehydration sets in. 1150 01:12:19,919 --> 01:12:21,079 And a sick man suffers. 1151 01:12:22,213 --> 01:12:24,795 He suffers from a general wasting away. 1152 01:12:34,809 --> 01:12:36,219 Go ahead, lieutenant. 1153 01:12:47,572 --> 01:12:48,652 Well... 1154 01:12:50,825 --> 01:12:52,907 You see, sir, there wasn't much anything we could do. 1155 01:12:53,453 --> 01:12:55,159 He's... 1156 01:12:55,246 --> 01:12:57,237 We didn't have any choice. 1157 01:12:59,250 --> 01:13:00,250 Well... 1158 01:13:01,002 --> 01:13:02,002 We had to... 1159 01:13:02,921 --> 01:13:05,162 We had to pool our rice... 1160 01:13:05,256 --> 01:13:07,463 And we had to pool our water and we... 1161 01:13:07,550 --> 01:13:09,791 We tried to keep the sick ones alive. We... 1162 01:13:12,639 --> 01:13:14,220 You told him, didn't you? 1163 01:13:15,141 --> 01:13:17,382 Didn't you? You told him, didn't you? 1164 01:13:17,477 --> 01:13:19,263 I didn't tell him anything. 1165 01:13:19,312 --> 01:13:21,928 Yes, he did tell me. He told me he doesn't remember 1166 01:13:21,981 --> 01:13:23,812 Harvey and Connors dying of dysentery. 1167 01:13:23,858 --> 01:13:25,348 He doesn't remember that at all. 1168 01:13:25,443 --> 01:13:27,308 So, come on, Miller, the truth! Come on, let's have it! 1169 01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:28,810 Talk. Don't! 1170 01:13:28,863 --> 01:13:30,148 Come on, the truth. No lies. 1171 01:13:30,198 --> 01:13:32,530 No memorized speeches, just the truth. Spill it. 1172 01:13:32,575 --> 01:13:34,361 Don't say anything! I told him nothing. 1173 01:13:34,411 --> 01:13:36,051 It wasn't only me. You gotta believe that. 1174 01:13:36,079 --> 01:13:37,159 All right, it wasn't only you. Now, come on, everything. 1175 01:13:37,163 --> 01:13:38,949 The rest of it. Everything. 1176 01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:42,032 We were all in it together. All of us. I swear that's the truth! 1177 01:13:42,085 --> 01:13:43,370 We all voted for it! 1178 01:13:43,461 --> 01:13:44,997 We had to do it. 1179 01:13:45,046 --> 01:13:46,926 Everybody agreed to do it. Everybody except him! 1180 01:13:48,842 --> 01:13:49,842 You can't do it! 1181 01:13:51,636 --> 01:13:53,046 Now, this is it. 1182 01:13:53,138 --> 01:13:55,129 You can't draw lots for a man's life. 1183 01:13:55,223 --> 01:13:56,963 Why not? He's guilty. 1184 01:13:57,058 --> 01:13:59,515 Now you had your say, and you got outvoted. 1185 01:13:59,561 --> 01:14:00,971 Now shut up. 1186 01:14:05,733 --> 01:14:10,602 Whoever gets this one, he's the man. 1187 01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:17,321 Now, we're all in this together. 1188 01:14:17,412 --> 01:14:19,494 Nobody talks. Ever. 1189 01:14:22,250 --> 01:14:23,865 That includes you, cargill. 1190 01:14:25,879 --> 01:14:26,879 Understand? 1191 01:14:36,598 --> 01:14:37,929 You better understand. 1192 01:14:39,309 --> 01:14:40,309 Come on. 1193 01:14:41,144 --> 01:14:42,144 Come on. 1194 01:14:49,319 --> 01:14:50,980 Hurry up. Hurry up, he's coming. 1195 01:14:53,031 --> 01:14:54,111 Take one. 1196 01:14:59,204 --> 01:15:00,284 Come on. 1197 01:15:00,330 --> 01:15:01,570 Miller. 1198 01:15:07,587 --> 01:15:09,067 Remember, we're all in this together. 1199 01:15:14,469 --> 01:15:15,469 Okay. 1200 01:15:18,890 --> 01:15:19,890 Who's got it? 1201 01:15:21,851 --> 01:15:22,851 Come on. 1202 01:15:23,978 --> 01:15:24,978 Harper. 1203 01:15:27,315 --> 01:15:28,521 Not me. 1204 01:15:38,993 --> 01:15:40,073 Miller. 1205 01:15:55,927 --> 01:15:56,962 Hurry up! 1206 01:15:58,638 --> 01:16:00,048 You know what to do. 1207 01:16:01,516 --> 01:16:04,053 Miller, no. You can't do this. 1208 01:16:07,522 --> 01:16:10,013 Don't do it... 1209 01:16:19,450 --> 01:16:20,530 Hi. 1210 01:16:24,914 --> 01:16:25,914 Hi, fellas. 1211 01:16:42,557 --> 01:16:43,557 Tough couple of days. 1212 01:16:45,518 --> 01:16:46,849 Really put me through the wringer. 1213 01:16:53,901 --> 01:16:54,901 Connors, get out... 1214 01:17:00,325 --> 01:17:01,325 Hey, what's wrong? 1215 01:17:13,630 --> 01:17:14,630 Miss anybody? 1216 01:17:21,512 --> 01:17:22,592 No, nobody. 1217 01:17:24,390 --> 01:17:25,390 Well, take another look. 1218 01:17:26,726 --> 01:17:27,806 Take a good look. 1219 01:17:30,855 --> 01:17:35,474 Yeah, while you're looking around, Connors, take a look in that corner. 1220 01:17:55,380 --> 01:17:56,380 Where's Harvey? 1221 01:18:02,136 --> 01:18:04,502 Where do you think he is, Connors? He's dead. 1222 01:18:07,392 --> 01:18:09,303 Last night I told him not to try to escape. 1223 01:18:10,645 --> 01:18:11,645 It was suicide. 1224 01:18:12,814 --> 01:18:14,124 It was just one chance in a thousand. 1225 01:18:14,148 --> 01:18:16,068 You're wrong, Connors. He didn't have any chance. 1226 01:18:17,485 --> 01:18:19,225 What do you mean? You know what we mean. 1227 01:18:22,990 --> 01:18:23,990 Shut up! 1228 01:18:26,577 --> 01:18:27,908 You hear me? Shut up! 1229 01:18:27,995 --> 01:18:29,701 Will you? 1230 01:18:29,789 --> 01:18:32,189 How did they know that Harvey planned to make a break for it? 1231 01:18:33,751 --> 01:18:35,116 I don't know. 1232 01:18:35,169 --> 01:18:37,125 I never mentioned his name. What did you mention? 1233 01:18:37,755 --> 01:18:39,416 Nothing. Then how did they know? 1234 01:18:40,466 --> 01:18:41,581 I don't know. 1235 01:18:41,676 --> 01:18:43,792 Well, someone tipped them off. 1236 01:18:43,886 --> 01:18:47,253 And you're the only guy who's been out of this shack since yesterday morning. 1237 01:18:47,306 --> 01:18:50,514 The only one, Connors. That doesn't prove a thing. 1238 01:18:50,601 --> 01:18:53,968 Ten guys tried breaking out of here, not one of them made it. 1239 01:18:54,021 --> 01:18:56,057 Harvey didn't have a chance. You guys know that. 1240 01:18:57,275 --> 01:18:59,106 There's something you ought to know. 1241 01:18:59,193 --> 01:19:00,808 Harvey never tried to escape. 1242 01:19:02,196 --> 01:19:03,732 What? 1243 01:19:03,823 --> 01:19:06,565 Harvey wasn't going to make a break for it. We talked him out of it. 1244 01:19:06,659 --> 01:19:08,274 He'd be alive now except for you. 1245 01:19:09,162 --> 01:19:11,153 No, no, no... 1246 01:19:11,914 --> 01:19:13,324 Shh! 1247 01:19:13,374 --> 01:19:15,185 You told them, Connors, because when they came here, 1248 01:19:15,209 --> 01:19:16,745 they knew exactly what to look for. 1249 01:19:16,836 --> 01:19:18,667 They were looking for a guy with a knife on him. 1250 01:19:18,671 --> 01:19:20,774 They found the knife on Harvey and they shot him in the back 1251 01:19:20,798 --> 01:19:22,334 because you tipped them off. 1252 01:19:22,425 --> 01:19:23,881 No, listen. Kim promised he wouldn't do it. 1253 01:19:23,885 --> 01:19:25,750 He promised he wouldn't kill him. He told... 1254 01:19:25,845 --> 01:19:26,925 Honest! 1255 01:19:32,393 --> 01:19:33,633 No, no! 1256 01:19:37,607 --> 01:19:38,607 Okay, hold him. 1257 01:19:41,569 --> 01:19:42,775 No, Miller! 1258 01:19:46,365 --> 01:19:47,365 Hold him. 1259 01:19:48,618 --> 01:19:49,778 No, no, no! 1260 01:19:52,538 --> 01:19:53,538 No, Miller! 1261 01:19:53,581 --> 01:19:55,162 No, no. 1262 01:19:55,249 --> 01:19:59,743 No, Miller. Miller, no. No! No! 1263 01:20:20,483 --> 01:20:25,898 I didn't want to. I didn't want to. I didn't. 1264 01:20:26,656 --> 01:20:28,442 I had to do it. 1265 01:20:31,118 --> 01:20:35,111 I had to. I swear that's the truth. 1266 01:20:38,292 --> 01:20:40,999 I'm sorry I had to do this to you. 1267 01:20:46,175 --> 01:20:50,134 I don't care. I'm glad I told. 1268 01:20:52,682 --> 01:20:54,968 It's no rotten secret anymore. 1269 01:21:00,648 --> 01:21:03,560 Will they try me for murder? 1270 01:21:03,651 --> 01:21:05,391 No, I don't think so. 1271 01:21:09,198 --> 01:21:11,405 You sure? 1272 01:21:11,492 --> 01:21:13,448 Evans, the notes. 1273 01:21:15,246 --> 01:21:17,032 Miller, I want you to see this. 1274 01:21:19,083 --> 01:21:21,745 There'll be no record in the file. 1275 01:21:21,836 --> 01:21:24,248 We'll just forget it. The evidence is inadmissible. 1276 01:21:24,338 --> 01:21:25,338 Baker. 1277 01:21:26,173 --> 01:21:27,754 Come on, lieutenant. 1278 01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:30,257 Lieutenant, come on, sir. 1279 01:21:32,597 --> 01:21:35,304 George, I'm sorry. Don't you touch me. 1280 01:21:39,312 --> 01:21:42,770 Lieutenant, lieutenant. Come on, sir. Come on, sir. 1281 01:21:46,861 --> 01:21:48,692 Let me go. 1282 01:21:53,451 --> 01:21:57,069 All right, cargill, that's part of the story. Now, what's the rest of it? 1283 01:21:57,163 --> 01:21:59,654 It wouldn't help. It might help you. 1284 01:21:59,707 --> 01:22:01,184 You just take my word for it. It wouldn't. 1285 01:22:01,208 --> 01:22:02,869 What happened after Connors was killed? 1286 01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:04,450 There were no more stool pigeons. 1287 01:22:04,503 --> 01:22:06,459 Don't stall. The other men were there, 1288 01:22:06,547 --> 01:22:08,037 they know what happened. They'll talk. 1289 01:22:08,049 --> 01:22:09,505 Will they? Oh, no, colonel. 1290 01:22:09,550 --> 01:22:11,506 Whatever Miller did, they're accessories to it. 1291 01:22:11,594 --> 01:22:13,906 Now, what are you gonna do, force it out of them, too, and then apologize? 1292 01:22:13,930 --> 01:22:16,171 Just talk. Fast. There's no time anymore. 1293 01:22:16,265 --> 01:22:18,051 I just don't care. Well, you're gonna have to care. 1294 01:22:18,059 --> 01:22:19,720 What happened after Connors was killed? 1295 01:22:19,894 --> 01:22:21,350 You're wasting your time. Talk! 1296 01:22:21,395 --> 01:22:23,351 Please, colonel Edwards. It wouldn't do any good. 1297 01:22:23,397 --> 01:22:24,728 Please, colonel Edwards. 1298 01:22:24,774 --> 01:22:26,293 Let me in there, please. Colonel Edwards... 1299 01:22:26,317 --> 01:22:27,397 Lieutenant... 1300 01:22:27,485 --> 01:22:29,066 Only get them into trouble. 1301 01:22:29,111 --> 01:22:31,272 Believe me, they're good men, decent men. 1302 01:22:31,364 --> 01:22:33,842 But when the pressure got too much for them, they started killing each other. 1303 01:22:33,866 --> 01:22:35,356 Well, I can't condemn them for that. 1304 01:22:35,451 --> 01:22:38,693 I'm not condemning or condoning. I'm only trying to help you. 1305 01:22:38,746 --> 01:22:40,737 All right, then tell me this. 1306 01:22:40,873 --> 01:22:43,913 What's gonna happen when they start putting pressure on the whole human race? 1307 01:22:45,836 --> 01:22:47,314 Sergeant? Colonel Edwards! Now, look, 1308 01:22:47,338 --> 01:22:49,499 the only thing that counts now is the truth. When we... 1309 01:22:51,175 --> 01:22:52,790 All right, take it easy. Take it easy. 1310 01:22:52,843 --> 01:22:54,963 They're gonna try me for murder. All right. All right. 1311 01:22:55,054 --> 01:22:59,047 I'm not the only one. We were all in it together. 1312 01:22:59,141 --> 01:23:00,881 Tell 'em. Tell 'em. 1313 01:23:00,977 --> 01:23:02,638 Knock that off, will you? 1314 01:23:02,687 --> 01:23:04,706 What's the matter with you? You too good for the rest of the world? 1315 01:23:04,730 --> 01:23:06,561 Too good to kill a lousy stool pigeon? 1316 01:23:06,607 --> 01:23:08,563 But in the end, you were the traitor. Not us. 1317 01:23:08,609 --> 01:23:12,352 Now they're gonna try me for murder, well, they won't. 1318 01:23:13,948 --> 01:23:15,438 What do you mean, murder? 1319 01:23:16,450 --> 01:23:18,190 Murder... 1320 01:23:18,703 --> 01:23:20,659 Who was murdered? 1321 01:23:20,788 --> 01:23:21,948 The lousy stool pigeon. 1322 01:23:21,998 --> 01:23:23,659 Miller, shut up. Let him talk. 1323 01:23:23,749 --> 01:23:26,103 Look, sir, the man's in no condition to talk about anything. 1324 01:23:26,127 --> 01:23:28,083 We killed him, that's what about. 1325 01:23:28,170 --> 01:23:30,752 He told on some poor guy who was planning to escape 1326 01:23:30,798 --> 01:23:34,882 and so we killed him. And your son, your wonderful son... 1327 01:23:37,096 --> 01:23:39,087 All right. All right, come on. 1328 01:23:39,140 --> 01:23:40,550 Come on, lieutenant. Come on. 1329 01:23:43,185 --> 01:23:46,222 All right, baker, get him out of here. Yeah. 1330 01:23:52,778 --> 01:23:54,188 What was he going to say? 1331 01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:56,111 Sir, the man was hysterical. 1332 01:23:56,157 --> 01:23:57,988 Anything he was going to say would have meant absolutely nothing. 1333 01:23:57,992 --> 01:24:01,951 You wouldn't have hit him if you didn't know what he was going to say. 1334 01:24:04,165 --> 01:24:06,702 It was something about my son planning to escape. 1335 01:24:06,751 --> 01:24:07,751 What was it? 1336 01:24:10,337 --> 01:24:13,170 It wouldn't do any good, sir. 1337 01:24:13,215 --> 01:24:14,943 Colonel, I'm ordering you to give me information 1338 01:24:14,967 --> 01:24:17,128 relative to a case under my jurisdiction. 1339 01:24:18,220 --> 01:24:19,710 Do you refuse? 1340 01:24:23,684 --> 01:24:26,175 No, sir. Very well, then. 1341 01:24:26,270 --> 01:24:28,977 The name of the man who betrayed my son. 1342 01:24:30,191 --> 01:24:33,058 You see what I mean about the truth? 1343 01:24:33,152 --> 01:24:36,019 You keep your clever remarks to yourself, major. 1344 01:24:36,072 --> 01:24:38,654 Believe me, sir, I was not trying to be clever. 1345 01:24:38,699 --> 01:24:41,111 That's all for now, cargill. You're excused. 1346 01:24:42,912 --> 01:24:44,823 Just a moment, major. 1347 01:24:46,874 --> 01:24:49,957 You feel pretty safe and smug here, don't you, cargill? 1348 01:24:50,044 --> 01:24:52,330 Hiding behind due process of law. Please, sir. 1349 01:24:52,421 --> 01:24:55,128 It galls me to see traitors like you being coddled here. 1350 01:24:55,216 --> 01:24:56,922 Sir, I beg you to leave this man alone. 1351 01:24:56,967 --> 01:24:58,332 Suppose you tell me who betrayed my son, major? 1352 01:24:58,344 --> 01:24:59,550 I insist you leave him alone. 1353 01:24:59,637 --> 01:25:02,003 I'm interrogating him, colonel. 1354 01:25:03,766 --> 01:25:05,973 All right, major. Who was it? 1355 01:25:06,018 --> 01:25:07,679 Who betrayed my son? 1356 01:25:11,774 --> 01:25:13,310 I can't answer that, sir. 1357 01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:17,234 Can't you? Honor among traitors, is that it? 1358 01:25:17,279 --> 01:25:20,567 One dirty swine protecting another? One lousy collaborating... 1359 01:25:20,658 --> 01:25:22,319 Damn it, sir, stop it! 1360 01:25:26,580 --> 01:25:28,241 I'm sorry, sir. But I... 1361 01:25:28,332 --> 01:25:31,093 I just couldn't let you go on that way. Not without knowing the truth. 1362 01:25:33,087 --> 01:25:34,702 Your son wasn't betrayed. 1363 01:25:36,423 --> 01:25:38,755 He wasn't killed by the enemy. 1364 01:25:39,969 --> 01:25:42,301 He was killed by his own men. 1365 01:25:44,598 --> 01:25:48,216 He was the stool pigeon. 1366 01:25:55,818 --> 01:25:58,434 It's a lie. No, sir. It's the truth. 1367 01:25:58,487 --> 01:26:00,853 It's a lie you made up to protect this man. 1368 01:26:00,906 --> 01:26:02,612 It's the truth, sir. 1369 01:26:02,700 --> 01:26:04,816 You have no proof. I have. 1370 01:26:05,953 --> 01:26:07,818 Conclusive proof. 1371 01:26:38,819 --> 01:26:41,105 Every man has his limit, sir. 1372 01:26:43,199 --> 01:26:45,815 There's no crime in being human. 1373 01:27:09,391 --> 01:27:12,303 He was my son. 1374 01:27:12,394 --> 01:27:16,057 He was raised to know better, to be better. 1375 01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:22,484 I can't forgive cowardice, especially in my own son. 1376 01:27:23,072 --> 01:27:24,187 Why? 1377 01:27:28,077 --> 01:27:31,114 That's right. Why? 1378 01:27:31,163 --> 01:27:33,495 Why are we always so much quicker to blame those we love 1379 01:27:33,582 --> 01:27:35,322 rather than those we hate? 1380 01:27:35,376 --> 01:27:37,833 Is it because weakness in them is somehow weakness in ourselves? 1381 01:27:37,836 --> 01:27:40,293 Is that it? 1382 01:27:40,381 --> 01:27:42,713 I didn't love your son, general, but I didn't hate him, either. 1383 01:27:42,716 --> 01:27:45,503 So maybe I'll be allowed to speak a few words on his behalf. 1384 01:27:47,096 --> 01:27:49,257 A man can be a hero all his life, 1385 01:27:49,348 --> 01:27:53,307 but if in the last month of it or the last week or even the last minute, 1386 01:27:53,394 --> 01:27:56,932 the pressure becomes too great and he breaks, then he's branded for life. 1387 01:27:56,981 --> 01:27:58,972 You can't ask a man to be a hero forever. 1388 01:27:59,066 --> 01:28:00,602 There ought to be a time limit. 1389 01:28:00,693 --> 01:28:03,184 There is no defense for treason. 1390 01:28:03,237 --> 01:28:05,728 I wouldn't use words like treason if I were you. 1391 01:28:05,823 --> 01:28:08,735 And I would never set myself up to judge anybody. 1392 01:28:08,826 --> 01:28:11,693 Just don't be a hero on somebody else's time, general. 1393 01:28:11,745 --> 01:28:14,987 And don't ever hate a man for what he does under pressure. 1394 01:28:15,082 --> 01:28:18,449 Your son was a hero. I give you my word. 1395 01:28:18,502 --> 01:28:22,495 Hundreds of days he was a hero. And only one day did he break. 1396 01:28:22,589 --> 01:28:26,457 Well, in the name of god, aren't all those other days worth something? 1397 01:28:26,510 --> 01:28:28,171 Does he lose his standing in the human race 1398 01:28:28,178 --> 01:28:30,885 because he broke on that one last day? 1399 01:28:33,267 --> 01:28:35,508 They didn't understand, so they killed him. 1400 01:28:35,602 --> 01:28:38,014 But at least they thought they had a reason. 1401 01:28:38,105 --> 01:28:39,936 To save their lives. 1402 01:28:40,024 --> 01:28:43,733 But what reason have you got, general? A set of rules, a code? 1403 01:28:43,777 --> 01:28:45,313 Well, it's not enough. 1404 01:28:45,404 --> 01:28:48,487 Because you don't have a code that fits a man to face them. 1405 01:28:48,574 --> 01:28:51,236 Your code doesn't have all the answers. Not all the answers. 1406 01:28:51,327 --> 01:28:53,033 All right, major, you've said enough. 1407 01:28:53,078 --> 01:28:55,410 No, sir, I've not said enough. 1408 01:28:55,497 --> 01:28:58,409 Your son was a human being, and somebody's going to speak for him. 1409 01:28:58,917 --> 01:29:00,748 My son is dead. 1410 01:29:00,836 --> 01:29:04,078 And there's a dignity in that, no matter how he died. 1411 01:29:04,131 --> 01:29:06,087 But you, major, are alive. 1412 01:29:06,133 --> 01:29:08,813 And I'll be damned if I'll stand here and allow you to attack a code 1413 01:29:08,844 --> 01:29:11,301 that better men than you have lived and died by. 1414 01:29:11,388 --> 01:29:13,970 The code? The... how much does the code ask of a man? 1415 01:29:14,058 --> 01:29:17,642 Everything, if the man is a soldier. His life. 1416 01:29:17,728 --> 01:29:21,266 His life? You think that's the most that a man can lose? 1417 01:29:21,315 --> 01:29:23,101 What are you talking about? 1418 01:29:35,162 --> 01:29:37,494 I'll tell you. 1419 01:29:37,581 --> 01:29:40,493 I'll tell you what I'm talking about. 1420 01:29:40,542 --> 01:29:42,908 You're in a prison camp. Nobody breaks. 1421 01:29:43,003 --> 01:29:46,746 Months and months of cold and torture and starvation and nobody breaks. 1422 01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:49,957 And then one day, a man does break and his own men kill him for it. 1423 01:29:50,010 --> 01:29:51,570 And the commander of the camp is furious 1424 01:29:51,595 --> 01:29:54,632 because he's been robbed of the one victory he's been able to achieve. 1425 01:29:54,723 --> 01:29:57,009 So he calls in the ranking officer and he says to him, 1426 01:29:57,101 --> 01:29:59,513 "ll have reached the limit of my Patience." 1427 01:29:59,561 --> 01:30:02,928 "Either you cooperate or I kill all sixteen men." 1428 01:30:06,068 --> 01:30:08,730 What would you do, general, huh? 1429 01:30:08,821 --> 01:30:10,982 I want an answer. What would you do? 1430 01:30:11,073 --> 01:30:13,815 Stand fast? Let them all be killed? 1431 01:30:13,867 --> 01:30:15,949 That is a chance you have to take. 1432 01:30:16,036 --> 01:30:21,247 Maybe. Maybe. 1433 01:30:21,291 --> 01:30:25,660 Maybe that's the answer, for heroes. 1434 01:30:25,754 --> 01:30:27,870 But I was no hero. 1435 01:30:29,133 --> 01:30:32,250 I couldn't take that chance. 1436 01:30:32,302 --> 01:30:36,261 To me, those sixteen men, the wives, the families, 1437 01:30:37,141 --> 01:30:38,972 they seemed important. 1438 01:30:39,893 --> 01:30:41,975 They still seem important. 1439 01:30:48,902 --> 01:30:51,439 How many lies for a man's life, huh? 1440 01:30:53,699 --> 01:30:58,534 I don't know. I just gave them everything they wanted. 1441 01:31:01,540 --> 01:31:02,905 Everything. 1442 01:31:13,135 --> 01:31:16,502 I had a feeling, sir. 1443 01:31:16,597 --> 01:31:19,839 On his record, he wasn't the kind of man who'd do something like this 1444 01:31:19,933 --> 01:31:21,764 for a selfish reason. 1445 01:31:23,770 --> 01:31:27,308 He couldn't defend himself without incriminating sixteen other men. 1446 01:31:30,319 --> 01:31:34,779 I'm sorry about this man and everything that's happened to him. 1447 01:31:34,865 --> 01:31:39,905 And it's precisely because I'm sorry that I know why we need the code. 1448 01:31:39,953 --> 01:31:42,535 I want your recommendation at once. 1449 01:31:44,416 --> 01:31:48,659 General, this is an extremely harsh application of the rule. 1450 01:31:48,712 --> 01:31:50,919 Is it? This man's had it. 1451 01:31:51,548 --> 01:31:53,584 No man's exempt. 1452 01:31:53,675 --> 01:31:55,211 Not this man, 1453 01:31:55,260 --> 01:31:57,717 not my son, no one. 1454 01:31:57,804 --> 01:32:00,671 Because after you've said everything that could be said, 1455 01:32:00,766 --> 01:32:04,884 the fact would remain, he did help the enemy. 1456 01:32:04,978 --> 01:32:06,809 Sir, I think it's only fair to tell you, 1457 01:32:06,897 --> 01:32:09,559 if he's brought to trial, I'd like to defend him. 1458 01:32:13,946 --> 01:32:15,652 That's your privilege, bill. 1459 01:32:17,658 --> 01:32:18,864 Major cargill, 1460 01:32:23,413 --> 01:32:25,119 you asked me a question. 1461 01:32:25,207 --> 01:32:28,074 You at least deserve an answer. 1462 01:32:28,126 --> 01:32:30,993 The choice that you had to make in that prison camp was no different 1463 01:32:31,088 --> 01:32:34,546 than the choice that confronts every military leader. 1464 01:32:34,591 --> 01:32:37,253 The decision involving the life or death of his men. 1465 01:32:38,887 --> 01:32:43,347 You're a sensitive man. A humane man. 1466 01:32:43,433 --> 01:32:48,177 I sympathize with that man. But you're also a soldier. 1467 01:32:48,272 --> 01:32:52,390 And as a soldier, you have failed, just as my son failed. 1468 01:32:52,484 --> 01:32:54,816 You talk to me of sixteen men. 1469 01:32:54,903 --> 01:33:00,114 Multiply that by thousands. Try carrying that weight on your shoulders. 1470 01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:03,408 Try sleeping with the cries of those wives and children in your ears. 1471 01:33:04,121 --> 01:33:05,907 I've done that, major. 1472 01:33:05,956 --> 01:33:08,538 Every wartime commander has done it. 1473 01:33:08,584 --> 01:33:11,917 Because until a better world is built, it's got to be done. 1474 01:33:13,255 --> 01:33:16,122 That is why we have the code, major. 1475 01:33:16,216 --> 01:33:19,708 The code is our Bible and thank god for it. 1476 01:33:23,890 --> 01:33:26,927 I'll be waiting for your recommendation, bill. 1477 01:33:27,019 --> 01:33:28,538 Under the circumstances, I will, of course, 1478 01:33:28,562 --> 01:33:29,722 disqualify myself. 1479 01:33:42,784 --> 01:33:44,900 The general's right. 1480 01:33:44,995 --> 01:33:46,826 I was wrong and I should be tried. 1481 01:33:47,831 --> 01:33:49,867 Reasons don't matter. 1482 01:33:49,958 --> 01:33:51,573 Reasons do matter. 1483 01:33:53,629 --> 01:33:56,587 When a man's mind is attacked, how does he protect himself? 1484 01:33:56,715 --> 01:33:58,626 How does he fight back? 1485 01:34:02,554 --> 01:34:06,388 You didn't tell the other men why you went over, did you? 1486 01:34:06,475 --> 01:34:08,386 Part of your deal with colonel Kim? 1487 01:34:13,273 --> 01:34:15,264 Evans, take this, will you? 1488 01:34:15,359 --> 01:34:17,850 Concerning the charges in the case of major Harry cargill, 1489 01:34:17,944 --> 01:34:20,356 recommendation is as follows. 1490 01:34:20,405 --> 01:34:22,066 Considerable evidence has been amassed 1491 01:34:22,115 --> 01:34:25,903 to prove that major cargill willingly collaborated with the enemy. 1492 01:34:25,994 --> 01:34:30,112 There is now also evidence to indicate that he did so unselfishly 1493 01:34:30,207 --> 01:34:33,574 and to preserve the lives of his fellow prisoners. 1494 01:34:33,669 --> 01:34:36,285 Although he was mistaken in his judgment, 1495 01:34:38,215 --> 01:34:40,331 he was surely no traitor. 1496 01:34:42,094 --> 01:34:45,006 Therefore, I personally recommend that all charges be dropped 1497 01:34:45,055 --> 01:34:48,468 and no court-martial be convened. 1498 01:34:48,558 --> 01:34:51,300 Now, don't let that recommendation fool you. 1499 01:34:52,437 --> 01:34:54,473 There'll be a court-martial. 1500 01:34:55,273 --> 01:34:56,854 Oh, I expect that. 1501 01:34:58,568 --> 01:35:02,686 It's just good to know that somebody understands. 1502 01:35:02,781 --> 01:35:04,567 Well, we've got a long way to go. 1503 01:35:05,450 --> 01:35:07,941 Can you be here tomorrow morning? 1504 01:35:08,036 --> 01:35:10,402 Yes, sir, I'll be here. We free at 8:00, Evans? 1505 01:35:10,497 --> 01:35:12,453 Yes, sir, we're free. 1506 01:35:12,916 --> 01:35:14,952 8:00, then. 1507 01:35:20,048 --> 01:35:21,458 And, major, 1508 01:35:24,970 --> 01:35:27,382 give my regards to your wife. 1509 01:35:31,309 --> 01:35:32,515 Yes, sir. 1510 01:35:38,775 --> 01:35:43,815 Colonel, do you think we can get the answers this way? 1511 01:35:45,073 --> 01:35:48,190 Well, I can promise you one thing, major. 1512 01:35:48,285 --> 01:35:50,526 They'll know we asked the questions. 120136

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