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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,800 APPLAUSE 2 00:00:36,160 --> 00:00:41,080 Hello and welcome to what promises to be a very special evening. 3 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,320 Tonight, on the occasion of his 90th birthday, 4 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,920 we are privileged to be celebrating the life and career 5 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,680 of a man whose passion and knowledge of the natural world 6 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,800 has fundamentally changed how we see the world. 7 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,040 His unique ability to help us understand our planet 8 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,040 is little short of remarkable. 9 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,200 He is frequently referred to 10 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,760 as THE greatest broadcaster of all time. 11 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,480 He's even beaten David Beckham 12 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,800 in a poll of the coolest men on the planet. 13 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:11,960 I am, of course, talking about the one and only Sir David Attenborough. 14 00:01:11,960 --> 00:01:15,280 Tonight, we've got rather a different programme for you. 15 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,560 # Don't stop me now 16 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:21,480 # Don't stop me 17 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,960 # Cos I'm having a good time Having a good time 18 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:29,080 # I'm a shooting star leaping through the sky like a tiger 19 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,640 # Defying the laws of gravity... # 20 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:37,720 And top of the menu right now is...salmon. 21 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,760 # ..Go, go, go There's no stopping me 22 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,120 # I'm burning through the sky, yeah 23 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:46,360 # 200 degrees 24 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,720 # That's why they call me Mr Fahrenheit... # 25 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,720 And for that, he must fight! 26 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,840 # ..I want to make a supersonic man out of you... # 27 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,120 Boo! 28 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:57,960 # Don't stop me now 29 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,240 # I'm having such a good time 30 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,280 # I'm having a ball 31 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,240 # Don't stop me now 32 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,280 # If you want to have a good time just give me a call 33 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,440 # Don't stop me Yes, I'm having a good time 34 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,960 # I don't want to stop at all... # 35 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,800 Thanks for that. Great talking to you. 36 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,000 # Don't stop me, don't stop me Don't stop me 37 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,160 # Don't stop me, don't stop me Ooh-ooh-ooh... # 38 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,000 - You should see the outtakes. - I would LOVE to see the outtakes! 39 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,680 Maybe we can arrange a viewing. 40 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,000 - Yes, any time. - OK. - LAUGHTER 41 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,000 # ..Don't stop me Yes, I'm having a good time 42 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:35,600 # I don't want to stop at all... # 43 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:47,120 Ladies and gentlemen, it gives me the greatest of pleasure 44 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,680 to welcome Sir David Attenborough. 45 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,440 CHEERING 46 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,280 Welcome, welcome, welcome 47 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,280 to your little television party. 48 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,480 Well...I think they are pleased to see you. 49 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,960 - First things first, happy birthday. - Thank you very much. 50 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,160 In your 90th year, building up to the birthday, 51 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,200 it strikes me you've been as happy as ever. 52 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,240 I've been talking to people behind the scenes, 53 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,800 they say Argentina to Australia and everywhere in between. 54 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,320 Remind us of what you've been filming in the last 12 months. 55 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,600 Well, I filmed that big dinosaur, 56 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,560 the biggest one yet found, in Argentina. 57 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:39,080 I've filmed luminous earthworms in France, believe it or not. 58 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,280 I've been on the Barrier Reef. 59 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:42,840 So I've had a good time. 60 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,360 Your fascination with the natural world is obvious 61 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,680 to all of us and it's interesting that 62 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,680 the beginnings of your career in television 63 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,680 were really the beginnings of television. 64 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,160 I mean, that's when it really got off the ground, 65 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:55,680 in those very early 1950s. 66 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,080 How did you get into television? 67 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,360 Oh, by accident and certainly not by design, 68 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,360 because I had never seen television in 1952. 69 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,080 And the number of people who could see it were tiny, 70 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,840 they were just in London, a few thousand people. 71 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:15,520 And then I was working in publishing in an extremely boring job, 72 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,440 putting commas into manuscripts 73 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,800 or occasionally taking them out if I was feeling bad-tempered. 74 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,200 LAUGHTER 75 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,040 And it was... it was indescribably boring. 76 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,040 And I saw an advertisement in the paper that said 77 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,240 the BBC wanted a radio producer, a talks producer, 78 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,840 and I thought, "Well, I can talk, I must know how to talk," 79 00:04:34,840 --> 00:04:38,280 and so I applied and I got a polite refusal, 80 00:04:38,280 --> 00:04:40,440 - I didn't get an interview or anything. - Right. 81 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,160 It just said, "No, thank you very much," 82 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,440 which was understandable, I'm sure they got thousands. 83 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,720 And then about a fortnight after that, 84 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,000 I got another letter from someone else in the BBC, 85 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:55,120 saying, "We are starting this new thing called television, 86 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,000 "which a lot of people are rude about, 87 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,640 "and we think that there could be something in it 88 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,080 "and we've seen your... we've seen your application 89 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,280 "and you're the sort of person we're looking for. 90 00:05:04,280 --> 00:05:05,520 "Would you like to apply?" 91 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,480 And you ranged across, as a young producer, all subjects, then? 92 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,480 - What would you have been covering as a young producer? - Nonfiction. 93 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,760 And so I did... 94 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,760 I mean, I started off by doing an archaeological quiz 95 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,920 called Animal, Vegetable, Mineral? 96 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,360 But I did political talks, I did political discussions, 97 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,840 I did gardening. 98 00:05:24,840 --> 00:05:26,600 What else did I do? Erm... 99 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,600 - Knitting! - LAUGHTER 100 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,640 They had a programme on knitting, yeah! 101 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,480 By 1954, you had honed your skills enough 102 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,320 to be allowed to work on something... 103 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:37,640 I mean, it was called Zoo Quest 104 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,320 and actually it would go on to be a very, very popular series, 105 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,400 but you were working as a producer, or you were working as a presenter? 106 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,040 I was working... Oh, no, not at all, I was entirely a producer, 107 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,480 I had no intention of being a presenter 108 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,600 and the only reason I did was because the man from the zoo, 109 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,240 - Jack Lester, became very ill. - Yes. 110 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:59,320 And it was a live show, so I was told by the head of television, 111 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,680 "The only other person who can do this is you." 112 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,800 So I appeared by accident, really. 113 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,160 So, you travelled around the world for Zoo Quest with... 114 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:09,960 Your companion at the time 115 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:11,960 was a cameraman called Charles Lagus. 116 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,000 He's a slip of a lad, David, he's just 88. 117 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,040 And we went to hear some of his memories 118 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,120 of those early days working with you. 119 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,160 I met this young man called Attenborough. 120 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,000 We seemed to hit it off straightaway. 121 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,720 And David's knowledge just staggered me. 122 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,600 When we first got off this aeroplane and started walking, 123 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,880 there would be the odd bush animal that would walk past, you know. 124 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:45,240 He instantly knew what it was, what genus it was. 125 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,280 Look at trees, he knew what tree it was. 126 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:56,000 His zoological knowledge in a country he'd never been to - 127 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,160 he'd never been out of England - 128 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,800 was absolutely brilliant, I mean, it was just so reliable. 129 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,800 We slept in hammocks, 130 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,040 we spent a lot of time eating boiled rice. 131 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:17,720 And yet, we just got on and did it, it just seemed natural. 132 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,000 But it was quite good coming back and having a proper meal! 133 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,920 When... When you look at that film, what are your memories? 134 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,120 Are you suddenly back there, are you taken back to the moment? 135 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,840 Er, yes, yes, I truly am. 136 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,240 They were marvellous trips, of course, 137 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,520 and you couldn't do anything like it now 138 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,240 because there were no mobile phones, there were... 139 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:46,960 You know, when you left, you left. 140 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,040 And so the animals that you would bring back then, 141 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,680 one of the most notable is the python. 142 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:58,000 Well, that was one we caught in Indonesia, in Java. 143 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,440 Did you catch it? 144 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,560 Well, yes, I did, because, you see, poor old Jack, 145 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,320 he had left, and I, in order to carry on 146 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:08,280 this...charade that I was an animal collector, you know, 147 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,800 - I had to actually... - LAUGHTER 148 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,640 I actually did do the business. 149 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,400 How do you catch a python? 150 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:15,800 With great difficulty! 151 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,200 And considerable alarm, I don't mind telling you! 152 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,040 OK, well, let's just take a little look 153 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,480 at the Zoo Quest episode with the python. 154 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:31,000 Helping me control this python is Mr Lanwarn 155 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,560 from the Reptile House in the London Zoo, 156 00:08:33,560 --> 00:08:37,320 who, in fact, has it in his care now. How is he? 157 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,760 Well, he's doing very fine, actually. 158 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:41,440 He's...! 159 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,080 That's a very good example of how he constricts his food! 160 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,280 Shall I just show you, or will you lose your hand? 161 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,240 No, I don't think so, I'll be able to get out eventually. 162 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,960 While I leave Mr Lanwarn to untie himself from this snake, 163 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,600 er...we must say goodnight. 164 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,600 So, from us both, goodnight. 165 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,160 David, I think that must have been the last time you used Brylcreem. 166 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,040 You did look very smart there! 167 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:13,880 Let's talk, then, about making a name for yourself on screen. 168 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,240 You did that with Zoo Quest, it became hugely popular, 169 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,360 and then something rather unusual happened. 170 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,920 As we know, again, it was the fledgling days of television, 171 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,120 it was 1965, and they said to you, 172 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,760 who was becoming this televisual presence, 173 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,880 "Would you like to come and run BBC Two, 174 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,640 "to be the Controller of BBC Two?" 175 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,520 What was your plan? 176 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,440 Well, it was... 177 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,000 just about the best job you could possibly have 178 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:43,120 in broadcasting, really, if you were interested in programming. 179 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:48,240 And the brief was, "Whatever you do, make it different from BBC One." 180 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:54,640 They'd go a bit further, they said, "Provide an ALTERNATIVE to BBC One." 181 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,240 Now, actually, you can't define what an alternative... 182 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:58,960 What is the alternative to football? 183 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,280 It's certainly not Beethoven's string quartets. 184 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:02,880 I mean, people who play quartets 185 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,080 like football just as much as anybody else does. 186 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,280 So in the end, we decided, 187 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:12,520 as long as we got a new kind of programme, it would do. 188 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:18,000 So, we developed new things in every genre, really. 189 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,760 We had new kinds of drama, 190 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,320 we had classic serials from the great authors, 191 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:28,960 we had new sports, we had floodlit rugby league, which we started... 192 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,480 And we started snooker, I don't mind telling you! 193 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,480 So, then, you'd been Controller of BBC Two, 194 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,200 you'd made such a good job of that 195 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,120 that you were then promoted to Director of Programmes 196 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,800 and you were very diverse and innovative. 197 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,440 Interestingly, the big landmark series 198 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,080 was something that you became known for. 199 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,480 There was Civilisation, there was The Ascent Of Man. 200 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,800 There were lots of comedies too, David, 201 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,280 there was The Likely Lads, there was Monty Python's Flying Circus. 202 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:00,280 - Yes. - And the Pythons even did a sketch about you, supposedly, 203 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:05,160 tracking down the elusive walking tree of Dahomey. 204 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:09,280 Well, we're still keeping up with it, but it's setting a furious pace. 205 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,640 Early this morning, we thought we'd spotted it, 206 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,200 but it turned out to be an Angolan sauntering tree, 207 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,240 Amazellus robinrayi, 208 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,880 out walking with a Gambian sidling bush. 209 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,080 So on we go. It's going to be difficult. 210 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,360 The walking tree can achieve speeds of up to 50mph, 211 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,800 especially when it's in a hurry. 212 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:30,480 Super! 213 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,680 Well, Rupert has spotted something. 214 00:11:32,680 --> 00:11:36,320 This could be it, a walking tree on the move. 215 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:40,040 APPLAUSE 216 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:44,520 Well, joining us now to explain himself, 217 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,200 please welcome the wonderful Michael Palin. 218 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,680 APPLAUSE DROWNS SPEECH 219 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,760 David! Good to see you! 220 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:03,920 Oh, dear... 221 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,000 So, Michael, was that an homage, 222 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:07,720 or was it just a straight mickey-take? 223 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,120 "Dam-age", I think, wasn't it, really? 224 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,320 Of course it was homage, yes, he's a great man. 225 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,160 Unfortunately, something went terribly wrong with the sketch, 226 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,240 which you can't actually see, but the idea was 227 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,320 that anybody who was a presenter in the jungle 228 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:21,680 got very hot and very sweaty, 229 00:12:21,680 --> 00:12:25,200 so we decided that we would have sort of a plumbed outfit, 230 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,160 which would pour water down 231 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,440 through your shirt and jacket as you were talking. 232 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,920 Unfortunately, in the first take, it went wrong 233 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:37,680 and the plumbing got blocked at the top and went down the trousers. 234 00:12:37,680 --> 00:12:41,040 So, actually, you know, David was eternally incontinent, 235 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:42,960 it just poured, poured down. 236 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,320 "Turn it off, turn it off!" 237 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:49,240 David, do you think, did he capture something of the spirit of you, 238 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:50,800 do you think, in the impersonation? 239 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,520 I thought it was absolutely indistinguishable from me! 240 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,880 Well, I got to be your doppelganger. 241 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,560 It would be a great job. 242 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:00,320 I mean, Monty Python at the time... 243 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,640 Of course, cult status for many decades now, 244 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,320 but at the time, it split audiences. 245 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,400 A lot of people didn't like it, didn't get it, 246 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,280 and certainly, among a lot of the sort of management of the BBC, 247 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,920 - it was not popular. - I must say, you were very good, you were the one... 248 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,040 A lot of other BBC executives avoided us completely 249 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:17,400 and you came up and said, "Well, 250 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,120 "you know, the fact you are not on every night in the provinces, 251 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,880 "the fact you get taken off when Horse Of The Year Show overruns, 252 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,200 - "means you're going to become a cult show." - Yes! 253 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:27,920 "And cult shows are never forgotten." 254 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,320 I thought, "What a load of old rubbish!" But he was right! 255 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,080 LAUGHTER 256 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,360 And the nice thing about Python was that we were... 257 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:39,600 The BBC let us just get on with it, nobody...supervised the programme, 258 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,160 or watched what we were doing, 259 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,400 we were able to hone it over sort of 13 shows. 260 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,400 There was a lot of very bad stuff that we did 261 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,680 and a lot of very good stuff, but it was amazing the BBC let us 262 00:13:48,680 --> 00:13:51,360 just carry on experimenting in our little basement. 263 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,600 And, David, you mentioned the sports programming 264 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,240 that you were responsible for as Director of Programmes, 265 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:57,560 there was Match Of The Day, 266 00:13:57,560 --> 00:13:59,240 you introduced one-day cricket. 267 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,200 And you mentioned the snooker and, of course, 268 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:02,920 you decided to put snooker on at a time, 269 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,960 much like a lot of the technology that you've used subsequently, 270 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,960 because it was only then that people could see the different colours. 271 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,880 - Yes. - And did people think snooker would be good TV? 272 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,520 - No. - LAUGHTER 273 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:14,680 There was a classic line. 274 00:14:14,680 --> 00:14:19,120 I had to explain, you see, although people with colour sets 275 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:20,360 could see it in colour, 276 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,240 the majority of the people couldn't see it in colour, 277 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:27,120 so the commentator had to help them understand. 278 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:28,320 And I impressed this 279 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,960 on the commentator who was doing the first show 280 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,240 and he sort of, after he'd got into the show 281 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,600 and the game was progressing, and he was doing the hushed tones, 282 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,800 you know, he eventually said, 283 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:43,320 "And now he's going for the blue, 284 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,440 "and for those of you with black-and-white sets, 285 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,920 "the blue is next to the green." 286 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,720 LAUGHTER 287 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:58,440 David, you are very well known for quizzing visitors to your home 288 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,080 on some of the... Well, they are very exotic, 289 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,520 very rare objects that you have collected over the years. 290 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:07,040 Indeed, Michael, you were put to the test back in 2002, I think it was. 291 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,720 - I was, I was. I was quaking in my boots! - Oh, come along now! 292 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,360 Let's take a look at this documentary, Life On Air. 293 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,120 - Yes, well... - Object number three is? - Oh, wow! 294 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:17,360 Well, it's extremely heavy. 295 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,680 I would've thought it was an egg of some kind 296 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,320 - but I can't imagine any animal... - Yes, yes. - It is an egg? 297 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,040 - Yes. - This has come from inside some... - It's an egg. - ..creature? 298 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,120 - It's an egg. - Erm... 299 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,440 - Oh. Dinosaur egg? - Full marks. - Really? 300 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:30,800 Ten out of ten. 301 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,640 There are two things you can always say under these circumstances, 302 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,600 - either it's a ritual object... - Mm. - ..or else money. 303 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,160 There's always two, you can always say one of the two, 304 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:41,280 - one or the other. - OK. 305 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,480 - And that is... - Is a ritual object. - ..money. - Oh! 306 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,680 THEY LAUGH 307 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:48,120 There we are. 308 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,600 We're rather a good comic team, I think, David, actually. 309 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,360 - So it is your turn, then, Michael, we're giving you the turn. - Yes! 310 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:57,800 You're going to turn the tables. 311 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,120 I have something. It probably won't be that difficult 312 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,280 but I've got something which I procured on my travels 313 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,600 and I wonder if you know what it might be, where it's from, 314 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,440 - what it's for and... - Money or ritual object? 315 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,600 - ..whether you'd like to use it? - MICHAEL LAUGHS 316 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:12,880 Use it? 317 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,000 First of all, David, it's the wrong way up. 318 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,680 - I was going to say a flower arrangement. No? - No. 319 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,760 - Turn it the right way up and then... Ah. - Ah. - Yes. 320 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,640 Well... 321 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,480 Well, it's either a neck rest or a bottom rest and I reckon 322 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:31,640 - that's a bottom rest... - Yeah. - ..and I reckon it must be an African one. 323 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:35,440 - Yeah, people would carry them around, actually, like... - Exactly. 324 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,000 - He got that annoyingly quickly, didn't he? - Took him a while! 325 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,080 LAUGHTER 326 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,240 - That is from the Karamojong people... - Oh, really? 327 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:42,400 - Isn't it brilliant? - It is. 328 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,160 These very, very big guys, they're enormous people and they just 329 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,920 take these round and, whenever they want to sit, just sit on these. 330 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,280 I mean, it's really... It looks easy. But actually... 331 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:52,400 Oh... 332 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:53,440 LAUGHTER 333 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,320 Oh, actually, that's not bad, really. There you are. 334 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,720 - Beautiful, economic, clever... - Oh, it's a wonderful thing. - Perfect. 335 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,200 But it's the only thing they have apart from their spears, 336 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:08,720 as far as I remember, is that right? 337 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,400 One of them had a Rolex watch, actually. No, seriously. 338 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,200 Quite seriously. 339 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,960 - Michael Palin, thank you very much indeed. - It's a pleasure. 340 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,040 APPLAUSE 341 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,600 David, I think it would be fair to say that you have probably 342 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,560 travelled to more places than anybody else who has ever lived, 343 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,960 but there is one place you still haven't been to. 344 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,520 Good evening, Sir David. 345 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,640 And good evening, everyone, and welcome on board 346 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,120 the International Space Station, 347 00:17:38,120 --> 00:17:42,280 where we're orbiting 400km above the Earth's surface. 348 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,240 Sir David, your adventures and your words have inspired us enormously 349 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,960 and changed the way that we look at our Earth. 350 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,000 Britain has a long history of scientific endeavour, 351 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,600 and just like the naturalists and explorers of our history, 352 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,320 it's important that we tell the story of the scientists, 353 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:02,160 conservationists and explorers of today to the next generation 354 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,280 to change our future for the better. 355 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,080 So from here in space above the equator, 356 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:11,240 I would like to wish you, Sir David, a very happy 90th birthday. 357 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,640 APPLAUSE 358 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,160 You had, then, as is clear, 359 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,360 spent a very successful time as a backroom boy. 360 00:18:22,360 --> 00:18:25,120 You're running BBC Two, being Director of Programmes, 361 00:18:25,120 --> 00:18:28,360 you had risen pretty high and you decided, extraordinarily, 362 00:18:28,360 --> 00:18:30,720 and this seems to be a sort of pivotal point in your life, 363 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,160 it was 1972 and you resigned those big jobs. 364 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,480 You said, "I don't fancy this any more." 365 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:37,920 What was your thinking? 366 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,720 And it must have been personally a pretty momentous decision. 367 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,120 Erm, well, I don't know. 368 00:18:43,120 --> 00:18:46,200 I mean, you know, I'd paid off the mortgage, and the children, 369 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,960 the children had left school and had been educated 370 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,360 and what was I going to do? 371 00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:53,600 And what I thought I was... 372 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,320 What I know I enjoyed most was making programmes, 373 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,360 so why not go back to making programmes? 374 00:18:58,360 --> 00:19:02,200 1979, Life On Earth makes it onto our screens, 375 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:06,280 it is a ground-breaking series, it's a 13-part series, 376 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,880 it was hugely popular, it made you a household name. 377 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:11,880 What was the inspiration for that series? 378 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,720 Why did you passionately want to make it? 379 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:18,400 Well, when I was running BBC Two, we started a new kind of 380 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:22,880 documentary which was 13-part one-hour programmes 381 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:27,960 which set out to more or less say, my implication to viewers, 382 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:32,440 "Look, if you want to know about this that you've often heard about, 383 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:36,520 "stay with us for 13 hours, week by week, and at the end of it, 384 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,000 "we'll have given you a reasonably responsible outline 385 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,280 "of what it's about." 386 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,160 But I knew, you see, that the, THE subject 387 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,240 that you could really make a mind-blowing series about 388 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,200 would be the history of life on Earth, 389 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:53,160 from the very simplest to the primates like ourselves. 390 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,360 And that could easily fall into 13 parts, and I thought, 391 00:19:56,360 --> 00:19:59,360 "By golly, that's a thing I'd like to do." 392 00:19:59,360 --> 00:20:03,200 My worry was that while I was Director of Programmes, 393 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,160 that some other perisher was going to go to the BBC 394 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,960 and say, "What about this wonderful idea of doing the history of life?" 395 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,720 And I couldn't in all conscience then say no. 396 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:18,520 But fortunately nobody did and so as soon as I resigned, 397 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,680 I suggested to the BBC that maybe this would be something 398 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:23,920 they might consider. 399 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,120 It was a huge hit with viewers, it was full of extraordinary moments. 400 00:20:27,120 --> 00:20:31,520 But, of course, the most celebrated moment from Life On Earth is... 401 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,200 I don't even have to say what it is. 402 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,440 It's this magical sequence here. Let's watch it. 403 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,520 There is more... 404 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,120 meaning and mutual understanding in exchanging 405 00:20:43,120 --> 00:20:45,760 a glance with a gorilla... 406 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,000 ..than any other animal I know. 407 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,520 And this is how they spend most of their time, 408 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,200 lounging on the ground, grooming one another. 409 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,560 Sometimes they even allow others to join in. 410 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:25,520 APPLAUSE 411 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,960 Extraordinary. Well, joining us now to tell us more about that moment 412 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,560 is someone who was just a fresh- faced research assistant in Rwanda 413 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,240 at the time. He is now chairman of the Gorilla Organization, 414 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,280 please welcome Ian Redmond. 415 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,680 APPLAUSE 416 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,480 Happy memories, I can tell, watching that clip. 417 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,000 David, what was the original purpose of filming this sequence 418 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:00,800 among the gorillas? 419 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:05,240 Well, I wanted... One of the key things in the history of humanity 420 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,880 and the evolution of humanity was the moment 421 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:12,240 when our ancient primate cousins developed the ability 422 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,920 to put thumb and forefinger together so they could hold, 423 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,400 initially, of course, branches so they can swing around. 424 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,240 But if you can do that, you can hold a tool. 425 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,480 And if you can hold a tool, you can make weapons, 426 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:29,200 you can make all kinds of objects that you wanted to. 427 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:34,240 So it's the opposable thumb, as it's called, is the crucial thing. 428 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:38,760 And I wanted to illustrate that with apes. 429 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:43,080 And, Ian, were you surprised when you saw the behaviour 430 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,640 of these gorillas around David? 431 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,320 Well, at the time the gorillas were used to one observer. 432 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,720 - So it was very unusual to have a group of people coming in. - Right. 433 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,960 But gorillas seem to have this concept of a friend of a friend 434 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,240 and if they know someone 435 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,560 and there's somebody else they don't know with them, 436 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,360 because they're with that someone, it... "Mm, OK." 437 00:23:03,360 --> 00:23:05,720 And before you visit gorillas, 438 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,400 you're given a sort of briefing in gorilla etiquette 439 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,080 and David absorbed it almost like second nature. 440 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:17,160 I was preparing myself to talk about the opposable thumb 441 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,680 when I felt a hand on my head 442 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,760 and I turned around and there was this huge gorilla. 443 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:27,160 And she actually started by putting her big forefinger 444 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,720 in my mouth. Like that. 445 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:30,840 And I thought, 446 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,200 "This is not the moment to talk about the opposable thumb." 447 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,560 And it went rather out of my mind, really, 448 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,760 and I was just sort of lying there in... 449 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:47,840 I suppose it was... Really, it was a kind of paradise, really, 450 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,480 because you were being accepted by an animal 451 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:56,920 which was immensely powerful and which was clearly friendly 452 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,520 and accepting you on your own terms, as it were, 453 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,880 and there are very few animals that you can do that with. 454 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,480 You can't do that with lions, you can't do that with... 455 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,240 - It's a mutual trust. - It's a mutual trust. 456 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,280 You're trusting them and they're trusting you. 457 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,080 And, David, what is so extraordinary, 458 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,320 that this has become a sort of emblematic moment in your career, 459 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,320 it almost was not filmed at all. 460 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,400 Well, John Sparks, who was the director, 461 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,920 was worried about this because it might appear to the audience 462 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,720 that we were, as it were, part of Blue Peter or something 463 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,240 and that these were tame gorillas, 464 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,120 and so he didn't want them to appear tame. 465 00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:39,040 But Martin Saunders, who was the cameraman, said to him after a bit, 466 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,160 he said, "We really ought to be filming this, you know," 467 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,400 and so he pressed the button and got that footage. 468 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,120 And so, Ian, this was sort of 38 years ago, I think, 469 00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:51,040 that this was filmed. 470 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,640 The situation then was perilous for these gorillas. What about today? 471 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,040 Well, then the gorillas were at their lowest ebb. 472 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,720 We thought there were about 250 mountain gorillas in the Virungas. 473 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,400 A few years before that footage, a poll among schoolchildren 474 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,560 had gorillas in there with spiders and sharks as the scariest animals. 475 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,360 And so having a well-known TV presenter being accepted 476 00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:14,320 in a trusted way by a family of gorillas 477 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,440 transformed people's attitudes. 478 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:21,480 The result of that was a coalition of organisations got together 479 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,200 and things changed. And decades later, 480 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,720 we can say that there is a census going on right now, 481 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:31,400 we're expecting there to be nearly 1,000, so from 250 to 1,000, 482 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,560 not all in the Virungas but in the two populations, 483 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,640 so it's been...it's one of those rare things - 484 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,240 a conservation success story, 485 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,520 - which this man played a significant role in. - Fantastic. 486 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,720 APPLAUSE 487 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,520 Just before you go, do tell me, the little baby gorillas, 488 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,880 did they thrive, were they fine? 489 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,320 Pablo grew up to be a splendid silverback, 490 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,880 became one of the most successful silverbacks of the study. 491 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:05,320 And Poppy, who was a little younger than Pablo, is still with us 492 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:06,680 and still producing babies 493 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,160 and she's one of the elders in the gorilla population. 494 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,600 But, yes, we follow their lives, it's like a never-ending soap opera 495 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,040 and every year we learn new things about gorilla society. 496 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,280 Ian Redmond, thank you so much for joining us tonight. Fascinating. 497 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,280 APPLAUSE 498 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,720 So in the interests of BBC non-bias, 499 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,200 we thought it entirely necessary that we should hear 500 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,400 the gorillas' side of the encounter. 501 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,160 So our friends at Aardman Animation have lent a little hand. 502 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,680 He was talking very quietly. 503 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,320 And he's very tall. Yeah, I noticed he's very tall, 504 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,240 because when he's sitting down, he's really sprawly. 505 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,200 Erm... But, yeah, I mean, he, you know, he could get close 506 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,560 if he came into my space. 507 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,120 I mean, I wouldn't let him walk all over me. 508 00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:05,800 But I think David Attenborough's probably got an empathy with nature 509 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:10,800 and not just animals, you know, but any living things, you know. 510 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,720 It's like you're sitting down with a mate 511 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,120 and he's telling you all these stories. 512 00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:16,560 What is he? 513 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,880 He's not an archaeologist, is he? What, what's his...? 514 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,800 He's not a naturist, he doesn't go around naked, does he? 515 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,120 - Does he? - APPLAUSE 516 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,920 You're not a naturist, are you? 517 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,320 Why'd you ask? 518 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,840 Well, they mentioned it. 519 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,880 Now, David, obviously you are someone who is watched, 520 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,040 who's admired all over the world 521 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,520 but I would say nowhere more than here in Britain. 522 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,320 Sir David, on behalf of the whole country, 523 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,040 I want to wish you a very happy 90th birthday. 524 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,720 Like so many, I grew up watching you and learning from you 525 00:27:55,720 --> 00:28:00,360 as your enthusiasm opened my eyes to the natural world around me. 526 00:28:00,360 --> 00:28:03,640 Your lifelong service has created the most extraordinary 527 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,720 educational legacy. 528 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,840 And even today, you're pioneering the latest technologies. 529 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,520 Britain is incredibly proud 530 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,080 to have THE greatest naturalist on the planet. 531 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:19,920 For just as you treasure the world, so the world rightly treasures you. 532 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,040 Thank you for all that you've given to us 533 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,400 and all that you're continuing to do. 534 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,520 And I wish you a very special evening. 535 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,560 APPLAUSE 536 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,920 David, it is surely true what the Prime Minister says there, you know, 537 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,680 technology has done so much to bring the natural world 538 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,880 into people's living rooms and into their consciousness. 539 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,040 When you started, I mean, 540 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,920 it's brilliant looking at that, isn't it? 541 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,000 I mean, the technology was so much more difficult, I'm guessing, 542 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,440 to work with because it was so simplistic? 543 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,280 Yes, but now we have absolutely everything. 544 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,200 In fact, I truly think there is almost no circumstance 545 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,040 that we can't film. 546 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,560 The new thing that we're doing, of course, 547 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,720 about bioluminescence is the latest step forward. 548 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,240 Martin Dawn, who is the cameraman, 549 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,880 is passionate about experimenting electronically with new cameras 550 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,480 and new ways of doing things 551 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,480 in order to get these shots of very, very bioluminescent animals. 552 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,160 And as you were saying, five years ago, 553 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,680 - that would have been impossible, to film that. - Impossible. 554 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,600 Let's just remind ourselves of the fascinating sequences that 555 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,960 have been captured using some of the world's most incredible technology. 556 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,280 We really know very little of what goes on in the heart 557 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,400 of a bivouac like this. 558 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,640 But this optical probe may help us find out. 559 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,720 Here is the nursery, full of young, developing grubs. 560 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,200 The lions are now so at ease, 561 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,040 our spy in the den can often approach to within a whisker. 562 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,600 Once they're thoroughly warmed up, 563 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,400 marine iguanas can maintain their body temperature 564 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,160 just about as constantly as I can and, what's more, 565 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,520 at about the same level or indeed slightly higher. 566 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:16,760 With a 360-degree view, and an extremely powerful lens, 567 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,320 the camera can zoom in from a kilometre away. 568 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,400 Another revelatory film technique 569 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,520 involves slowing down the action 570 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,600 simply by increasing the number of images taken per second. 571 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,880 As the sophistication of time-lapse photography has increased, 572 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:48,240 so we've been able to show that plants can be as competitive 573 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,080 and as aggressive as many an animal. 574 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,880 Wow! 575 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,600 APPLAUSE 576 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,760 So of course that was time-lapse that we saw there, 577 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,320 which I think you are a great fan of. 578 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,080 It reveals so much that the naked eye can't see, 579 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,080 and one of the cameramen responsible for many of those 580 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,000 really magical films is called Tim Shepherd. 581 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,120 You've described him as a genius, no less. 582 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,640 We've actually... We've got a new sequence here which Tim has made 583 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,680 especially for you this evening. 584 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,440 - For me? - For you. 585 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,080 Beautiful. 586 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,760 APPLAUSE 587 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,440 Thank you very much, Tim. Yeah. 588 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,000 Whilst we're on the subject of technology, talking, 589 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,840 doing pieces to camera underwater 590 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,280 is surely one of the trickiest things to pull off. 591 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,920 Maybe the bubble helmet was going to be the answer? 592 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,560 Yes, it's a hideous memory to me. I'm sorry to see it again. It's... 593 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,120 LAUGHTER 594 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,840 It's a long time ago now. 595 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,320 Having been talking to camera on land for a long time, 596 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,840 there was a new series about...underwater 597 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,280 which was being produced by a friend of mine 598 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,760 called Alastair Fothergill, who was the director. 599 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,480 And he explained that if I was going to be a narrator, 600 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,440 it was going to be quite difficult. 601 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,320 I could do it sitting on a ship, of course, on a boat, 602 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,120 but how was I going to talk about coral or sharks 603 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,040 or whatever underwater? 604 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,360 And Alastair said, "I've got a great idea. 605 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,560 "We've got a new technological thing. 606 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:09,800 "It's called the bubble helmet. See? And what we do is you put that 607 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:14,480 "on your shoulders and screw it down and then you'll be able to talk, 608 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,880 "because there's a microphone in there." 609 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,320 And I said, "It doesn't seem a very good idea to me at all." 610 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,000 And I said, "What's all this business with screwing it down?" 611 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,960 He said, "Well, you've got to screw it down 612 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,640 "because otherwise it will leak." 613 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,400 So I said, "That's all very well but how are we going to get it off?" 614 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,440 "Oh, we'll be able to get it off in, you know, five minutes or so." 615 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,440 I said, "Five minutes is a very long time. 616 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,080 "Suppose it goes wrong?" He said, "It won't go wrong. 617 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,920 "But I'll tell you what, if you're nervous about it, we'll test it." 618 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,320 This was in... We were going to film electric eels in the Amazon 619 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:44,960 and I was going to talk about them. 620 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,640 "We'll do it in the hotel swimming pool," he said. 621 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,040 So he put this on my shoulders. 622 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,160 Well, getting your head inside that is not easy, actually. 623 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,480 - See? - Ooh. 624 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,560 - Your nose gets caught. - Yes, yes. 625 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:02,880 And when you screw that down on there, you really do feel trapped. 626 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:07,400 So I waded into the pool and then very gingerly sort of 627 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,080 submerged myself and water started coming in, 628 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,080 you see, and I thought, "It takes about five minutes to get this off." 629 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,640 So I came out in a hurry and Alastair said, "What's the matter?" 630 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,800 LAUGHTER 631 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,400 - You know how directors are. - Oh, yes. - Yeah. 632 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,120 "What's your problem?" I said... 633 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,720 - AS IF UNDERWATER: - "It's filling up with water!" 634 00:34:27,720 --> 00:34:31,120 So he said, "Well, you must be doing something wrong." 635 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:32,680 I said, "I'm not...! 636 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,160 "I just walked into the pool and it's filled with water." 637 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,520 He said, "I'll show you." 638 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,440 So he took it, so he put it on. 639 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,720 I had some pleasure in screwing it down... 640 00:34:42,720 --> 00:34:44,240 I said, "Go on in there." 641 00:34:44,240 --> 00:34:47,600 He went in there, he came out quicker than me! 642 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,840 He took it off and said, "There must be a fault!" 643 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,800 I said, "Well, thank you very much." 644 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:56,200 So we then quietly decided that actually we wouldn't use it. 645 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,400 Of course, when you're filming in the great outdoors, 646 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:04,320 even with sometimes the most hi-tech equipment, as we've just heard, 647 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,720 things don't always go to plan. 648 00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:09,960 Because this snow is not white... 649 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,800 HE LAUGHS 650 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,920 Red and black venom lack. 651 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,200 Red and yellow... And I get out of the way. 652 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,800 The volcanoes of today are mere feeble flickers... 653 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,080 HE LAUGHS 654 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,640 The influence of this continent is global. 655 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,720 What happens here matters. 656 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,400 This is the first time I've ever known you do that. 657 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:47,840 LAUGHTER 658 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:53,080 They reunite once they come back here onto their own patch... 659 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,240 patch of shingle. 660 00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:58,880 It's so effective that even a rich woodland like this 661 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,800 can seem totally devoid of birds. 662 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,800 AEROPLANE FLIES OVERHEAD 663 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,320 But that, that's a completely different sound. 664 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:07,800 That's an aeroplane. 665 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,200 He is... 666 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,160 so charged up, 667 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,880 this being the breeding season, 668 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:19,480 that he will display to almost anything, including me! 669 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,280 HE LAUGHS 670 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,840 Now, now. 671 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:23,960 This surely... 672 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,440 BIRD SQUAWKS 673 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,720 This surely is what... 674 00:36:29,720 --> 00:36:32,400 BIRDS CAW 675 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,080 ..when he came to allocate a scientific name to this bird, 676 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,480 called it... 677 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:38,880 BIRD CAWS 678 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,000 "Woo-hoo!" Ha-ha. 679 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,360 Paradisaea apoda. 680 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:44,560 APPLAUSE 681 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,800 David, let's take a little look now at a really... 682 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,120 a very touching moment. 683 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,120 It was filmed just a few years ago for the series Africa. 684 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,640 - You met this little baby rhino called Nicky... - Baby rhino. 685 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,360 ..you'll remember, of course. 686 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,320 And what was remarkable about this little rhino 687 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,240 is that he was blind. 688 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,600 But just as we think we are finishing, 689 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,440 someone won't let us go. 690 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:18,880 Hello, little fellow. 691 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:25,240 He starts to squeak and we are able to have a little chat. 692 00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:28,120 - RHINO SQUEAKS - Oh! 693 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,160 HE IMITATES THE RHINO 694 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,520 Thinking about it, he has got a black world, hasn't he? 695 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,120 And he's got smell and he's got sound, 696 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,920 so he's more likely to be responding to sound 697 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,640 if he hasn't got the vision. 698 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,000 And he's just inquisitive, I suppose. 699 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,360 Are you coming back? 700 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,520 THEY SQUEAK 701 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,760 APPLAUSE 702 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,560 Just remarkable. Well, joining us in the studio now 703 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,040 from the Lewa Wildlife Conservancy in Kenya, 704 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,560 where those moments were filmed, is Sarah Watson. 705 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:22,920 Sarah, welcome. 706 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,320 APPLAUSE 707 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,320 Tell us a little bit about 708 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,120 this remarkable little creature's background, about Nicky. 709 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,320 Well, he is blind and we realised that he was... 710 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:38,000 Black rhino, quite early on, when they are about one or two weeks old, 711 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,080 are meant to follow their mothers out and about in the bush 712 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:42,600 but he wasn't doing that. 713 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,760 So it was at that point we thought, actually, we've got to bring him in. 714 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,480 So the guys brought him in, and I've got a big boma at the back 715 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,560 of my house where these rhino live and he became part of the family. 716 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,720 We got him when he was three-and-a-half months old 717 00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:57,840 and, yeah, he's still with us. He is now three-and-a-half. 718 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,400 David, so much of the programming that you make is so meticulously 719 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,080 planned - it has to be by virtue of the scale and the complexity of it. 720 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,240 And yet it is so often those moments, 721 00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:12,720 the moments that just seem to unfold and that you are so capable 722 00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:17,200 of taking us on this little journey through this moment of magic. 723 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,480 Watching that, the whole thing feels remarkably emotional to me 724 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,400 and I'm just watching it on TV. 725 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,160 When you were there doing it, are your emotions involved 726 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,200 when you're filming something like that? 727 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,240 Oh, well, that is such an endearing little creature 728 00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:37,160 and the fact that he couldn't see brought out a sympathy in one, 729 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,880 and then he suddenly started talking to me. 730 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,040 He had a long chat, yeah. 731 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,840 I'm not absolutely sure of what I said or what he said in reply. 732 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,240 But you actually took the words out of my mouth, 733 00:39:48,240 --> 00:39:51,200 because can you speak rhino? 734 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,760 So, you were just chatting. 735 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,640 - Yes, I was just responding to his noise. - Shooting the breeze. 736 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,880 But a charming creature, really lovely. 737 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:02,680 I wonder what you think is the most important factor in protecting 738 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,880 endangered species like Nicky the rhino, 739 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,920 and actually, endangered species more generally. 740 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,720 What should our approach be? 741 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:15,120 Well, the rhinos, as you say, is a special problem 742 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:19,680 because of poaching, and poaching is a huge problem worldwide. 743 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:24,920 So we have to develop a sympathy for the natural world everywhere. 744 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,480 And actually, I think that's one of the things that television can do, 745 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,600 that natural-history programmes can do. 746 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,600 I mean, it's a bizarre thing, isn't it? 747 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,320 There are more people living on Earth today than 748 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,320 there have ever been in the history of the universe. 749 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,400 I mean, there are three times more many people on this planet now 750 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,360 than when I started making those programmes back in the '50s. 751 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,920 And they all need places to live and so on, of course they do, 752 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,760 but if we go on increasing at that sort of rate, 753 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,040 there won't be any wilderness left. 754 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,120 And there are other creatures on the Earth 755 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,520 that also call this planet home, 756 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,120 and we have the responsibility for them. 757 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,560 So what we have to do is to give them the space, to give them 758 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:10,320 the natural reserves where they can flourish, which is their right. 759 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,720 Sarah, you work hard at giving them the space and you were saying now 760 00:41:13,720 --> 00:41:16,200 that Nicky is a big, relatively healthy boy now. 761 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,440 - How is he getting on? - No, he's thriving. 762 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,960 - He's an extraordinary animal. - There he is. 763 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,680 I mean, I know I am biased, but a lot of it is because 764 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,600 he is blind, but his other senses are very heightened. 765 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,200 I mean, he knows my smell and he knows my voice and so he sees me. 766 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,520 He basically rolls over a bit like a Labrador - 767 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,960 he knows he's going to get de-ticked. He thinks it's heaven. 768 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:40,400 But he represents one 5,000th of the remaining population 769 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,840 of black rhino in the world, so his job is going to be an ambassador. 770 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,240 And through people like David who, you know... 771 00:41:47,240 --> 00:41:50,280 The fact that everyone I know has seen that clip and I'm like, 772 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:51,840 "Yeah, that's my rhino!" 773 00:41:53,720 --> 00:41:57,360 But if we can just get a little bit of the message out, it's a start. 774 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:58,960 Sarah, thank you very much indeed 775 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,920 - for joining us this evening. - Pleasure. 776 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,360 Just before we move on, let's hear from another rather special 777 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,520 conservationist who has been inspired by your work. 778 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,280 David has been the single most important 779 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,440 impact on my conservation thinking, and I used to love, 780 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,680 and I still do, but when I was a young boy I used to love turning on 781 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,200 the television and watching David's programmes 782 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:34,240 and really feeling like I was either back out in Africa or I was 783 00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:39,200 learning about something magical and almost out of this planet. 784 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,640 And there's something very calming 785 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:46,120 and sort of warm about his programmes. 786 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,640 There's something very reassuring about seeing 787 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,600 David Attenborough on BBC One doing his documentaries. 788 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,720 It is part of the national psyche now and he is a national treasure. 789 00:42:55,720 --> 00:42:58,320 And it's very fitting that he is having his 90th birthday 790 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,240 only a few weeks after the Queen. 791 00:43:00,240 --> 00:43:03,560 I think they are two incredible national treasures who have 792 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,200 done so much over the years. 793 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,120 APPLAUSE 794 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,840 So, His Royal Highness there talking so genuinely about turning on 795 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,520 the telly when he was a little boy and seeing you there, 796 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,400 and that is something that is familiar to all of us 797 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:23,720 here in this audience. 798 00:43:23,720 --> 00:43:26,520 I'm interested, though, for you, when you were a little boy, 799 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,640 what turned you on to natural history? 800 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,120 Where did it begin for you? 801 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,800 By and large there were two things. 802 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,480 First of all, there was the Leicestershire countryside, 803 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,880 which is where I grew up. 804 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,320 And apart from that, there were wonderful books. 805 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,560 One of the ones which I don't think anybody, or very few people, 806 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,640 know about now, a man called Ernest Thompson Seton, who wrote... 807 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:53,120 He was a ranger in the Canadian prairie and he wrote 808 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:54,600 about the animals that he knew - 809 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,280 the wolves and the buffalo and so on. 810 00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,720 And he drew - he was a good artist as well - 811 00:43:59,720 --> 00:44:03,200 he drew the little footprints down the margins, the side margins. 812 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,080 I adored those books. Wept over them, too. 813 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:07,440 And what about...? 814 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,280 There you are, look at you in your little Fair Isle socks. 815 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:14,640 What about the influence...? You're not still wearing them! 816 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,200 What about the influence of your parents? 817 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,440 Were they interested in the natural world? 818 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,840 My father was a scholar, an academic, 819 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,480 - and an expert on Anglo-Saxons. - Right. 820 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:30,680 But he was also... He understood about education and 821 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,400 he said to each of his three sons, you know, 822 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:38,240 "What is it you want to do?", and when I said that I wanted to do 823 00:44:38,240 --> 00:44:42,920 something to do with animals, he didn't say... Or fossils. 824 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,520 He didn't say, "Well, the name of that is this, that or the other." 825 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,080 In any case, he didn't know. 826 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,800 But what he did say was, 827 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,960 "Look, there's ways of finding out about that. 828 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,400 "You can go to the museum, they will tell you about that. 829 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,160 "And there's some good books and you can read about that." 830 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,560 And so he encouraged us to find out for ourselves. 831 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,520 1945, you won a place at Clare College, Cambridge 832 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,560 to read geology and zoology. 833 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,600 - Now, you got it on a scholarship. - Yes. 834 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,480 That's a blinking big deal, when you get a scholarship. 835 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,160 What do you remember of the moment of finding out? 836 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,840 My father said, "Look, if you want to go to Cambridge, 837 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:21,360 - "you have to get a scholarship, because I can't afford it." - Right. 838 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,120 And so I worked pretty hard to try 839 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:28,920 and get a scholarship which the colleges gave. 840 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,640 And I remember... 841 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,400 It was during the war and my father was a... 842 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,680 I was digging an allotment, my father came running down 843 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,920 from the house where we lived waving a telegram and saying, 844 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,040 "You've got it, my son! You've got it!" 845 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,400 - Remarkable. - Then I was off to Cambridge. 846 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,280 When you were working on the natural-history programmes, 847 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:51,880 it also became, did it not, something of a routine for you 848 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,320 to bring your work home, not to put too fine a point on it? 849 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,200 The house was full of animals, wasn't it? 850 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,520 We had a whole host of different things, 851 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,960 all of which wouldn't be allowed by law now. 852 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,000 But I had lemurs, lungfish, 853 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,160 parrots, hummingbirds - all sorts of things. 854 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,440 One of my favourites was a little pair of bushbabies. 855 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:11,840 - You know bushbabies? - Yes. 856 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,160 They're like tiny little monkeys about that big, primitive monkeys. 857 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,960 And what the male does in order to establish his home 858 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,720 and make him feel good 859 00:46:19,720 --> 00:46:23,120 and think that we might produce some kids 860 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,480 would be to pee on his hands. 861 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,760 He would pee on his hands like that, you see, 862 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,640 rub them together and then go all over the furniture 863 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,080 and all up the walls as well as his hollow log and everything else... 864 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,440 - Nice. - ..which gave a nice, homely atmosphere. 865 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:39,920 LAUGHTER 866 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:44,760 But then friends would come to dinner and I'd open the door 867 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:49,680 and I'd see the wife of the friend's dilate her nostrils 868 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,400 and, you know... 869 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,320 "That is not mulligatawny soup." 870 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,920 You know? And so a bit of a problem there. 871 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:02,120 But in fact, I had, I think, about 14 births of these little babies. 872 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:03,640 - Did you? - Oh, we did. 873 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,440 And I'll tell you, a baby bushbaby... 874 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:07,480 Oh! 875 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,760 It's time now to welcome another guest. 876 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,560 Joining us to share with us his own treasures of the natural world 877 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,880 is a fellow passionate naturalist, conservationist 878 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:21,000 and collector extraordinaire, it has to be said, David. 879 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,560 Please welcome Chris Packham. 880 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,040 Welcome, thanks for coming. Nice to see you. 881 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,160 Chris, I said you were a collector extraordinaire. 882 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:40,640 You've brought some treasures. 883 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,440 - Show us one of the pieces. - Look at this. 884 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,840 There is always a romance in these sorts of things. 885 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:49,560 This is a fossil shark tooth, a megalodon tooth, which belonged 886 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:54,520 to an extinct species now, many times the size of a great white. 887 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:59,760 But when I handle that, I can't help but try and transport myself 888 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,360 back in time to imagine the world that this animal was living in. 889 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,160 And at the same time, look at... It's just perfect, isn't it? 890 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,240 You run a finger along that serrated edge. 891 00:48:08,240 --> 00:48:11,720 - You've got to have that in your drawer, haven't you? - You have. 892 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,320 - I was going to say, are you impressed? - You call that a... 893 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,360 LAUGHTER 894 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,720 APPLAUSE 895 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,320 - I want it back. - OK. 896 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,720 We won't mix them up - yours is cream, mine is black. 897 00:48:31,720 --> 00:48:35,240 - What a beauty, what a beautiful thing that is. - Amazing. 898 00:48:35,240 --> 00:48:38,360 But there is this competitive thing about collecting, 899 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,720 - which we won't go into. - No. We don't need to! 900 00:48:41,720 --> 00:48:43,240 But I have got the biggest. 901 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,480 I was going to say, boys will be boys. 902 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,240 - Do you know what this is? - Let's have a look. 903 00:48:52,720 --> 00:48:55,440 Yeah, yeah, I do. I do know what it is, yeah. 904 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,640 It has been inside a dinosaur. 905 00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,520 - It is a gastrolith, isn't it? - It is. 906 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,400 So this is a stone which it swallowed. 907 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,960 - I presume we don't know which species, but... - I do. - You do? 908 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,160 It came from the carcass, did it? 909 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,120 Don't know which species?! 910 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,240 LAUGHTER 911 00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:14,800 How very dare you, Chris Packham! 912 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,760 Well, yes, but we can't tell from the stone which species. 913 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,840 - That's better. - But you'll know if you found it 914 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,520 - in association with the rest of the fossil. - I did, I did. 915 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,360 Go on, then. Don't tell me it's a T-rex gastrolith! 916 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,800 - It's a Seismosaurus. - A Seismosaurus. 917 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,680 A Seismosaurus, which at the time was the biggest known dinosaur. 918 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,640 It isn't any more, of course, but at the time it was, 919 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,600 and I went to the excavation. 920 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,920 And you have this near-complete skeleton 921 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:43,520 with the backbone and the ribs, and there between the ribs 922 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:48,760 in the position of the stomach was like half a sackload of pebbles. 923 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,480 But if you look at it, you can see 924 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,040 that it's got an extremely high polish, hasn't it? 925 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,640 It's beautifully polished and this was polished inside 926 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,320 the gut of a giant dinosaur. 927 00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,080 I mean, there isn't anything better than that, is there? 928 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,160 - There really isn't anything... - Hey, hey! 929 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:05,880 LAUGHTER 930 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,080 David, do tell me about this splendid thing here. 931 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,000 Yes, I mean, I've got the biggest tooth there. 932 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,920 HE CLEARS HIS THROAT 933 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,600 And you haven't got a bigger bird's egg than that, have you? 934 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,120 No, I haven't. And that one... 935 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,680 I have seen many of these - that one is pretty good. 936 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,080 It was broken but it's put together very well. 937 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,840 In fact, let's just see the moments on film - it was captured - 938 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,200 when you found this and put this egg together. 939 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,480 The best method of starting seemed to be the same as you use 940 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,640 when you begin on a jigsaw puzzle - 941 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:39,040 to lay out everything face-up on the ground. 942 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,360 To fasten them temporarily, I used adhesive tape. 943 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:48,240 The egg began to appear even bigger than I had imagined. 944 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,720 At the end of an hour, I had two halves. 945 00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,560 And to my joy, they fitted together perfectly. 946 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:01,960 APPLAUSE 947 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,240 All I have to do is say thank you for bringing 948 00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:11,680 your wonderful treasures. Chris Packham. 949 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,840 APPLAUSE 950 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,440 Well, probably one of the highest tributes for anyone 951 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,360 working in the natural world is to have 952 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,800 a newly discovered species named after them. 953 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,480 In fact, David, I know you have 954 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,760 quite a number already named after you. 955 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,840 It's your birthday, so one of the world's foremost 956 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,720 dragonfly experts wanted to give you a little gift. 957 00:51:36,720 --> 00:51:39,200 Here is Klaas-Douwe Dijkstra. 958 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:43,760 On your 90th birthday, I want to wish you not only many more years 959 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:48,440 of good health and of broadcasting, but I wish everyone more of you. 960 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,240 And to thank you, I've named, together with colleagues, 961 00:51:53,240 --> 00:51:55,720 a dragonfly in your honour - 962 00:51:55,720 --> 00:51:57,720 Acisoma attenboroughi. 963 00:51:57,720 --> 00:52:00,840 Your new dragonfly is from Madagascar 964 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:06,320 and I'm happy to report that your dragonfly is actually very common. 965 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,840 Every farmer can find it in her paddy, 966 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,680 every fisherman can see it in his pond, 967 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,800 every schoolchild can find it in the yard. 968 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,920 It simply is another one of those species that is unique 969 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,800 but no-one noticed that it was. 970 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,440 But now people can go out there and say, 971 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,400 "Hey, look, that is Sir David's dragonfly." 972 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,240 Thank you and happy birthday. 973 00:52:28,240 --> 00:52:30,720 - APPLAUSE - Very nice. 974 00:52:30,720 --> 00:52:32,240 And here it is. 975 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,080 There it is, David, a very special little birthday gift - 976 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,800 Acisoma attenboroughi. Rather beautiful. 977 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,920 - Don't you think? - I think it's stunningly beautiful. 978 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,240 Dragonflies are magical insects, aren't they? 979 00:52:47,240 --> 00:52:51,080 You know, they date back for 300 million years. 980 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,240 - Just like that, yeah. - Extraordinary. - What a thrill. 981 00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:57,000 As we said when we began talking this evening, 982 00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,680 you are still filming all over the world. 983 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,880 Indeed, you are doing Planet Earth II, which is a big new series. 984 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,520 Well, Planet Earth II, when the idea was put up, 985 00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,040 people said, "You've done it all." 986 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,800 But the fact is that when you really start researching, 987 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,200 you find things that you haven't done at all 988 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,840 - that are going to be thrilling, new and exciting. - Incredible. 989 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,960 So, so much more of that to look forward to. 990 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,160 We are almost out of time tonight but before we go, 991 00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,280 here are a few more happy-birthday messages. 992 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:30,720 Sir David Attenborough, we love having you on the show, 993 00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:34,240 and beyond that, I'd just like to say thank you. 994 00:53:34,240 --> 00:53:37,840 Thank you for everything you have done on television over the years. 995 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,560 You have really changed this country and given us 996 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:44,120 such an extraordinary awareness of the world around us. 997 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:45,800 Have a very happy birthday. 998 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:49,520 Happy 90th birthday, David Attenborough. 999 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,600 I've grown up watching your films 1000 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,520 and now my children have grown up watching your films 1001 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:59,000 and I'm very proud to have been on this Earth at the same time as you. 1002 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,800 Sir David, this is Sting behind this beard. 1003 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,360 I'm somewhere in the tundra. 1004 00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,160 I've been a fan of yours since your search 1005 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,920 for the Komodo dragon, I think, in 1956. 1006 00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,040 You have been an inspiration and a wonder to me. 1007 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,800 Happy birthday and many happy returns. 1008 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,800 Thank you so much for the many years of inspirational, 1009 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,680 motivational and ground-breaking television, 1010 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,440 for spurring me and millions of others 1011 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,600 to want to be better custodians of the planet. 1012 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,800 For me and the hundreds of thousands of other people who have been 1013 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,440 inspired to go out, buy a pair of jungle boots 1014 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,640 and some camouflage and maybe a blue shirt, thank you. 1015 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:39,400 Thank you so much for all you have given us and a very, 1016 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:40,640 very happy birthday. 1017 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,040 ALL: Happy birthday, David! 1018 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,080 From all of us here on the Springwatch team. 1019 00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,840 You must pause to reflect on this special day 1020 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,640 on the incredible impact that you have had around the world. 1021 00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,760 You are an absolute legend and have changed the face 1022 00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:58,720 of conservation for the future. 1023 00:54:58,720 --> 00:55:02,040 I wish you a very happy birthday on this milestone day. 1024 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:03,960 You are fantastic, you are such a hero. 1025 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,240 You have been such an inspiration, not only to all of us 1026 00:55:07,240 --> 00:55:09,080 but more especially to me! 1027 00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:15,880 You'll go on for ever, and I hope you do, because you are priceless. 1028 00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:17,600 Happy birthday. 1029 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:18,960 APPLAUSE 1030 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:31,160 So, we know you keep making these extraordinary programmes 1031 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,920 that we all love so much, and thank goodness for that. 1032 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:35,880 You are not taking your foot off the gas. 1033 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:40,160 But I wonder - it's hard work, filming, it's really hard work - 1034 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,320 what is it that inspires you to get up every morning 1035 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:44,800 and go and work so hard? 1036 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:48,360 Making programmes is just huge fun. 1037 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:52,000 I mean, not only go to exciting places, do exciting things, 1038 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:53,280 you do it with pals. 1039 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,360 You do it with people, you know, who are a joy to work with. 1040 00:55:56,360 --> 00:56:01,720 And making programmes is, as you know, very much a team thing 1041 00:56:01,720 --> 00:56:05,840 and I feel constantly embarrassed about the amount of credit 1042 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,640 I get for the amount of work that many, 1043 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,280 many other people are actually, in fact, doing. 1044 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,720 So I've had a singularly, unbelievably fortunate time. 1045 00:56:14,720 --> 00:56:16,840 I'm afraid I might embarrass you a little more, 1046 00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,240 because I'm going to say on behalf of not just 1047 00:56:19,240 --> 00:56:22,960 everybody in the studio but on behalf of everybody watching at home 1048 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,960 and the hundreds of millions of people around the world who love, 1049 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,520 from the bottom of their hearts, what you do, 1050 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,760 thank you for doing it and happy birthday. 1051 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,520 Thank you very much indeed. 1052 00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:34,560 APPLAUSE 1053 00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,560 CHEERING 1054 00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,040 Thank you, thank you. 1055 00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:53,920 Well, as a final treat tonight, 1056 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,360 taking time out from his hectic schedule touring his new album, 1057 00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:58,760 Take Me To The Alley, 1058 00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,440 and singing something that sums up the spirit of everything that 1059 00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,800 David has devoted his life to, 1060 00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,520 please welcome the brilliant Gregory Porter. 1061 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,560 APPLAUSE 1062 00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:21,320 # I see trees of green 1063 00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,160 # And red roses too 1064 00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:29,240 # I'll watch them bloom 1065 00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,000 # For me and you 1066 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,720 # And I think to myself 1067 00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:42,840 # What a wonderful world 1068 00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:53,240 # I see skies of blue 1069 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,320 # And clouds of white 1070 00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,320 # The bright, blessed day 1071 00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,480 # The dark, sacred night 1072 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,640 # And I think to myself 1073 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:17,560 # What a wonderful world 1074 00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,640 # Oh 1075 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:27,880 # And I think to myself 1076 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:37,240 # What a wonderful world. # 1077 00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:47,800 APPLAUSE 1078 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:53,680 Thank you very much! 90313

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