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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,360 # Ain't no sunshine when she's gone 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,600 # It's not warm when she's away 3 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,000 # Ain't no sunshine when she's gone 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:22,200 # She always gone too long Anytime she goes away 5 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,000 # Wonder this time where she's gone 6 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,840 # Wonder if she's gonna stay 7 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,640 # Ain't no sunshine when she's gone 8 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:47,680 # This house just ain't no home anytime she goes away 9 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,160 # I know, I know, I know, I know, I know 10 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,160 # I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know 11 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,520 # I know, I know, I know 12 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,840 # I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know 13 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,120 # I know, I know, I know 14 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,120 # I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know 15 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,320 # I know, I know, I know, I know, I know 16 00:01:11,320 --> 00:01:14,160 # Hey, I oughta leave the young thing alone 17 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,760 # But ain't no sunshine when she's gone 18 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,680 # Anytime she goes away 19 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:37,880 # Anytime she goes awa-aay. # 20 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,920 APPLAUSE 21 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:45,000 TV PLAYS 22 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,840 Can I take us right back to when you first started? 23 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:06,680 - How did your recording career come about? - I saved up some of my own money and recorded myself. 24 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,600 I had never written any songs, 25 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:13,720 I didn't really know how to play anything and I had never sung before. Not really, 26 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,280 you know, in the shower or some place. But I just... 27 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,640 decided it would be awfully nice to get into the music business 28 00:02:19,640 --> 00:02:22,560 and then I just walked around and knocked on everybody's door. 29 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,800 A lot of times, I would go in, and somebody would say to me, 30 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,720 "You're too old to be just beginning." 31 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,680 You know, I was like, 32 years old at the time. 32 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,440 Most of the major record companies called me up. 33 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,480 But they had a different idea of how... 34 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,600 they didn't want me to do anything quiet. 35 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,800 They had this rhythm and blues syndrome in their mind 36 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:48,040 with the horns and the three chicks and the gold lame suit, you know. 37 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,600 I wasn't really into that, I had a job, 38 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,960 so I thought, "If they won't let me do it like I want to do it, 39 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,520 "I've got this good job, making these toilets - I don't need you cats." 40 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,240 - "Making these toilets"! What kind of toilet were you making? - For aircraft. 41 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,840 - Ah! - Yeah, 747 aircraft. 42 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,080 I installed cameras in those toilets... 43 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,920 unbeknownst to anybody but me. 44 00:03:12,920 --> 00:03:17,880 So if you've ever been to the bathroom on a 747, I know you very well! 45 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,600 LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE 46 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:29,720 So...here's all the stuff that I don't know how to work. 47 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,880 HE CHUCKLES 48 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:37,000 I mean, I guess the stuff works, I know how to turn it on, you know. 49 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,520 I can make lights come on and stuff. Let's see... 50 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,040 Yeah, I can turn that on... 51 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,800 And, er...let's see... 52 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,520 Turn this fan on here to cool that down. 53 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:55,120 This thing's been sitting here corroding for about ten years. 54 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:59,040 I think I got a speaker thing here... 55 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,480 Fooling around, let's see. 56 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,800 I was just playing with all these gadgets. 57 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,040 DEMOS PLAYING: DRUMS/MUSIC 58 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:12,440 I have to be careful that I don't just wallow in my own comfort. 59 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:16,920 Probably now, I'm trying to find some kind of motivation or, you know... 60 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,320 I'm not lazy. I don't even understand. 61 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,480 I'm trying to give myself a chance to get driven. 62 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,320 Where just the sheer activity of doing something 63 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,640 just jacks you up, makes you excited. 64 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:36,320 I lived a good portion of my life before I started to play music. 65 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,800 I had been working at Weber Aircraft and I got laid off. 66 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:44,000 Then Ain't No Sunshine started appearing on the radio and stuff. 67 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,480 It's funny, because I got two requests in the same day - 68 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:51,880 I got a letter from my job saying that I was called back to work 69 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:56,800 AND I got request to do the Johnny Carson Show. 70 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,040 APPLAUSE 71 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,400 I like that song, that was big for you, wasn't it? 72 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,640 Yeah, that kind of, uh, got me off the ham and eggs thing 73 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,600 and kind of tightened me up a little bit. 74 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,560 We mentioned this before, that you were a craftsman 75 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,040 and you made toilets, right? 76 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:25,600 - Oh, yeah, it was a good job, I had a lot of fun doing it. - LAUGHTER 77 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,160 - Where does the fun come in, Bill? - LAUGHTER 78 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,800 'People in my own family were probably surprised when I was on the radio. 79 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,840 'People had been in the Navy with, 80 00:05:34,840 --> 00:05:38,280 'people I had worked in a factory with, people that knew me 81 00:05:38,280 --> 00:05:42,520 'were probably going, "Wait a minute, is that that same guy?"' 82 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,480 'If I would have gone to work the next day,' 83 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:50,680 and told somebody where I was last night, 84 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,240 I would have got laughed out of the place. 85 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,640 All of a sudden, I'm travelling on the road 86 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,840 and more people are interested in you than before. 87 00:05:58,840 --> 00:06:01,200 It was just like a whole other world. 88 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,680 # You just call on me brother 89 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,560 # When you need a hand 90 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:12,600 # We all need somebody to lean on... # 91 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,280 - Ladies and gentlemen, Mr Bill Withers! - APPLAUSE 92 00:06:16,280 --> 00:06:19,040 # ..That you'll understand 93 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:24,760 # We all need somebody to lean on 94 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,480 # Lean on me... # 95 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:27,680 Mr Bill Withers. 96 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:31,280 # ..when you're not strong 97 00:06:31,280 --> 00:06:34,560 # And I'll be your friend 98 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:39,680 # I'll help you carry on 99 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:44,600 # For it won't be long 100 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,480 # Till I'm gonna need 101 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:52,640 # Somebody to lean on... # 102 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,320 New words started to enter my life 103 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:18,200 that had never been there before, like "handsome". 104 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,480 Boy, you sure do get better-looking when you get a hit record. 105 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,760 # I want to spread the news 106 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,680 # That if it feels this good getting used 107 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,200 # Oh you just keep on using me 108 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,840 # Hey, hey, until you use me up 109 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,240 # Hey, hey, until you use me up 110 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,760 # Hey, hey 111 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:53,560 # Talking about you using me but it all depends on what you do 112 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,680 # It ain't too bad the way you're using me 113 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:01,160 # Cos I sure am using you to do that thing you do 114 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,120 # Hey, hey, to do that thing you do... # 115 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,880 'I had never been in the entertainment business before. 116 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,560 'The first live singing I did was in front of 5,000 people. 117 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,560 'Suddenly, somebody says, "Go to work."' 118 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,680 Can I get a big round of applause for the one and only Bill Withers! 119 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,280 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 120 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,520 # Well, I'm five years old 121 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,400 # Sure am cold 122 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,240 # Mama's out cooking steak 123 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,480 # Cooking steak for someone else... # 124 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,480 What you see as the prognosis of your career, Bill? 125 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:42,920 You know, you'll become a big star, you're becoming a superstar. 126 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:47,280 - Do think you can remain just as you are? - First, I have to become 127 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:51,440 - somebody that understands what "prognosis" means! - INTERVIEWER LAUGHS 128 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:55,200 Well, how do you interpret how things are going to go for you? 129 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,080 Oh, yeah! I'm kinda just lettin' 'em go, you know. 130 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,560 Lettin' 'em go, and whatever is given to me, 131 00:09:00,560 --> 00:09:02,640 if I can do it, you know... 132 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,760 'Two or three years into this, I was in a major mess.' 133 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,080 The record company actually collapsed from under me. 134 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,400 Well, IRS came in and took the tapes and sold them. 135 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,560 Then, when I went to this major, big, mega label, 136 00:09:16,560 --> 00:09:20,680 you walk in, you play something, somebody goes, "Where are the horns? 137 00:09:20,680 --> 00:09:24,680 "You got to put some horns on it. How long is the intro?" 138 00:09:24,680 --> 00:09:28,680 First hit record I had was Ain't No Sunshine. No intro, nothing. 139 00:09:28,680 --> 00:09:31,440 If nobody throws all them rules at you, 140 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,040 you might make a song with no introduction. 141 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,400 Instead of singing about romantic love all the time, 142 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,560 you make a love song about your grandmother. 143 00:09:40,560 --> 00:09:43,960 Or you make a friendship song, a la Lean On Me, 144 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,440 searching through your feelings and your vulnerabilities 145 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,480 and your strengths and your weaknesses. 146 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,880 You're already loaded up enough with the burden of just trying 147 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,640 to find those feelings. 148 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,960 So then, here comes a whole bunch of guys, 149 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:02,280 trying to tell you what to do with all their goofy suggestions... 150 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,280 They had the R&B black guys, 151 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:08,000 and then they got what I like to call "Blacksperts", 152 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,160 that's the white guys who are supposed to be "experts"... 153 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,840 you know, who have some kind of tap into your black psyche. 154 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:19,800 I had an A&R man once - his big suggestion to me 155 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,960 was that I cover Elvis Presley's In The Ghetto. 156 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:25,920 I was livid, 157 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,800 and as I started to try to respond to that, 158 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:34,840 that simple kind of emotional, vulnerable kind of thing, 159 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,040 kind of got splattered around. 160 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,480 APPLAUSE 161 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,640 I became VERY interested - 162 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,640 can I still stay in this business and be effective 163 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,280 'and make a living and not have to play this fame game? 164 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:55,800 'I wasn't any good at it. The fame game was kicking my ass.' 165 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,120 # I see the crystal raindrops fall 166 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,560 # And see the beauty of it all 167 00:11:02,560 --> 00:11:05,400 # Is when the sun comes shining through 168 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,000 # To make those rainbows in my mind 169 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,280 # When I think of you some time 170 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,560 # And I want to spend some time with you 171 00:11:15,560 --> 00:11:18,200 # Just the two of us 172 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,760 # We can make it if we try 173 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,840 - # Just the two of us - Just the two of us 174 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,080 # Just the two of us 175 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,440 # Building castles in the sky 176 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,720 # Just the two of us You and I... # 177 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,840 I would like to see us move past 178 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:45,600 where you need the validation of the mainstream so much... 179 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,440 until we got away from 180 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,760 liking ourselves. 181 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,480 The challenge, though, is still, once you get in that mainstream, 182 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,520 to not become mainstream. 183 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,360 That is to say, to remain your authentic self, 184 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:03,800 to still make the community that produced you, proud of you. 185 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:08,200 To not, in the cultural vernacular, become a sell-out. 186 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:12,480 "Sell-out". I'm not crazy about that word...because... 187 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,080 ..we're all entrepreneurs. 188 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:18,320 To me... 189 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:24,040 ..I don't care whether you own a furniture store or whatever, 190 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:28,560 the best sign you can put up is, "Sold out". 191 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,400 - So let's... C-C-Can we make that... - THEY LAUGH 192 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:37,880 Can we make that subservient? 193 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,960 THEY TALK OVER EACH OTHER 194 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:47,040 It is a profound point. One, it's a Shakespearian point. 195 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,200 "To thine own self be true. 196 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,560 "If night follows the day, thou can be false to no-one." 197 00:12:52,560 --> 00:12:56,640 You have been true to yourself. 198 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,160 You don't sound like Paul Simon on the guitar, you're Bill Withers 199 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,040 because you come out of your roots. 200 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,280 When you sing Grandma's Hands, talking about Matty, 201 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,920 and talking about grandma taking care of local, unwed mothers 202 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,400 in Virginia, West Virginia, that's real. 203 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,400 That's being yourself. 204 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:17,360 At the same time, in being yourself, you're able to cross over 205 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:24,000 into a white mainstream, and they had to accept you on your own terms. 206 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:33,840 You see, looking at this thing is... 207 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:36,440 ..not new. 208 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,760 Oh, boy, these pages are really... 209 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:47,280 Well, I guess this was brothers and sisters I had that never lived. 210 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,920 I was the last of 13 kids that my mother had. 211 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:56,920 I guess I wasn't born yet, so I'm not in here anywhere. 212 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,600 Grackus Monroe Galloway was my mother's father. 213 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,680 He was born a slave. 214 00:14:02,680 --> 00:14:05,520 He was probably nine years old when they freed the slaves. 215 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:11,320 He worked in the coal mines but he would never work for the coal company. 216 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,280 He hauled coal... Here's Grandma. 217 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,160 Now, I took this picture when I was a kid, 218 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,800 so you can see what year it was by the car. 219 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,160 'Most of us at some point in our lives' 220 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:34,960 have somebody that means more to us than anyone else that's ever meant before or will ever mean again. 221 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,880 Sometimes it's a long-legged lady, if you're a man, 222 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,440 or some tall, very smooth man if you're a woman. 223 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:46,080 But in my case I learned how to really love somebody 224 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:47,960 from just a nice old lady. 225 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,480 My favourite thing that I've written 226 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,280 has to be about this favourite old lady of mine. 227 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:55,760 # Mm-mm, mm-mm 228 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,120 # Mm-mm 229 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,280 # Mm-mm... # 230 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:08,320 - I'm from Slab Fork, West Virginia. You know where that is, right? - No! 231 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,760 - Is that any place near Bluefield? - Yeah, it's near Bluefield. 232 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:17,160 - About 30 or 40 miles, I guess, from Bluefield. - Slab Fork, West Virginia? - Yeah. 233 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:18,680 # Mm-mm, mm-mm 234 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,440 # Mm-mm 235 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:27,440 # Grandma's hands clapped in church on Sunday morning 236 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:33,280 # Grandma's hands played a tambourine so well 237 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:39,240 # Grandma's hands used to issue out a warning 238 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,840 # She's say "Billy, don't you run so fast 239 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,960 # "Might fall on a piece of glass 240 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,040 # "Might be snakes there in that grass" 241 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,200 # Grandma's hands 242 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,080 # Ah, them Grandma's hands 243 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:59,600 # Mm-mm, 244 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,280 # Mm-mm... # 245 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,520 Hey, CV. 246 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,800 - This is the mayor here, this is Mayor, CV. - How you doing? 247 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,280 CV's running the things. I'm good, man. 248 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,880 CV was talking to my daughter and he was telling her, you know, 249 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,320 "Let me tell you about your great-grandmother." 250 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,800 - And so CV remembers her. - Grandmother Galloway. 251 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,440 She was a very elegant woman. 252 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,080 She sat on this porch 253 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:29,440 and she would sing spirituals right on that porch and clap her hands. 254 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:33,560 - Remember they called it gettin' happy. - Right, right, right! 255 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,360 There's a saying, "the sleepy smiling South 256 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,760 - "with blood on its mouth." - Right, right. - Well, we weren't in THAT South. 257 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,000 This was South, in a way. 258 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,640 Like, when we grew up, you didn't have to sit on the back of the bus. 259 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,280 - Right, right. - But we had separate schools. 260 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:56,840 You had to go to the back door if you wanted a milkshake or something from one of the restaurants uptown. 261 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,200 - Right. - But the kids, left to our own devices, we played, now... 262 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,000 - We sat here... That was the dividing line. - Right. 263 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,960 We were the only two black families on this side of the railroad track. 264 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,760 Well, we just integrated the whole thing by ourselves. 265 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,160 I think all of the black families basically, like it or not, 266 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,800 most of us had white people in our families. 267 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,080 You know, after you did a day's work in the coal mines, 268 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:23,200 - everybody was black anyway! - Yeah, yeah, well, that's true. 269 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,800 - That's true. - Wasn't nothing BUT black people here! 270 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:31,640 'I haven't been to Slab Fork since about 1959. 271 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,320 'Nobody's back there. There's nothing there much except graves, 272 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,240 'and old coal mines.' 273 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:41,520 And I'm really not too hung up on going and laying flowers on dead people. 274 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:50,640 L-Let me b-be very candid about it. This was a white graveyard. 275 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,040 This is a black graveyard. 276 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:57,560 - Hey, Bill Withers. - Yeah? - What was your brother's name? 277 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:01,160 - His name was Earl Martin. - Here he is right here. 278 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:05,560 - OK. - Earl W Martin. - Yeah, that's my brother. 279 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:09,800 Well, they give him a nice stone. Where do you see those number... 280 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,480 Oh, 1942... 281 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:17,360 - Do you vaguely remember any location about where your father would be? - No. 282 00:18:17,360 --> 00:18:20,680 And I don't know whether he would be buried close to Earl or not. 283 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:28,560 Yeah, well, Papa, well, yeah. Hello, bud. I'll catch you somethin' later. 284 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:33,960 My father taught me, you know... He put the work thing in my head. 285 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,960 My mother put the moral thing in my head. 286 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,360 My father used to have a little barber shop here 287 00:18:40,360 --> 00:18:44,680 and he wasn't a good barber but he told great stories. 288 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,800 # Just can't keep from crying 289 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,360 # Six years, Lucy 290 00:18:52,360 --> 00:18:57,640 # Lord, have mercy That's a long time 291 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,760 # That's a long time... # 292 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,760 All these houses were owned by the coal company 293 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,600 and they all looked the same. 294 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,240 - Absolutely. - They've probably done stuff to 'em now. 295 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,400 - The company owned everything. - Which was one family. 296 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,160 The coal company got your money, they paid you, 297 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:17,600 then you had to shop... 298 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,560 You shopped in their store. Now, this was the old store. 299 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,080 - Yeah, company store. - You could buy everything at this store. 300 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:29,000 Now, this is an exceptional coal camp from the standpoint that 301 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,280 it still have enough life to have some people living here. 302 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:37,520 They had a lot of churches. They had a Baptist church, then they had a Methodist church somewhere. 303 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,800 And then they had your Holy and Sanctified Church. 304 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:47,680 CONGREGATION: # Remember me... # 305 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,160 I liked my grandmother's church. It was spontaneous singing. 306 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,680 There was no programmed singing. 307 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,440 Somebody got up and started to sing a song, everybody sung. 308 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:01,160 It was my favourite kind of singing. 309 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:09,520 # Remember me 310 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,800 # Oh, Lord 311 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:21,720 # Remember me... # 312 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,920 - Well, we have walked these railroad ties, huh, CV? - Yeah. 313 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:29,000 Now, if you want to test how skilful you are, walk this. 314 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,440 Remember that used to be the thing, who could walk the rail? 315 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,200 - If you can walk the rail... - The furthest. 316 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,880 - See, that's how to test how skilful you are. - Look at you. - Yeah. 317 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,680 - I still can walk it. - You doing tricks and stuff. - Yeah. 318 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,320 You see, that's how skilful. 319 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,440 - If you break out a handstand, I'm leaving tonight. - CV LAUGHS 320 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:51,400 I'm telling you, this was like, life, busy, busy. 321 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,640 Summertime come, we'd go around, 322 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,600 - dam up the creek, get buck naked. - And go swimming. 323 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,360 Go swimming, and so the girls would time you out, 324 00:21:00,360 --> 00:21:05,160 - say, "Well, it's about swimming time," then the girls would come down there. - Yeah. 325 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,000 And stand on the side 326 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,120 so you couldn't get out of the water until they left. 327 00:21:10,120 --> 00:21:13,280 - Right! - So it was just a whole culture of stuff like that. 328 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,520 It's an amazing thing, when you look back, 329 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:22,480 and you realise that...the world changed completely around you. 330 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,080 - It's gone, brother. This has gone. - You're seeing what used to be. 331 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,560 - So we are truly the last of a... - Yeah, we getting there. - ..of a breed. 332 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,560 Yeah, we getting there. 333 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,920 - Hey, Bill. - Yeah? - Sing it one time for me. 334 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,200 # Ain't no sunshine when she's gone. # 335 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,240 You already hit it. I can't hit it like you no more. 336 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,720 Let me ask you, do you do any... Do you go on any tours at all now? 337 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,320 - The first thing you said to me was, "You look like an old man." - Right! 338 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,000 So, now, how could you tell me in one breath that 339 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,200 I look like an old man and then in the second breath tell me, 340 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,560 - "You ought to be out on the road, playing rock'n'roll"? - No. 341 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:01,840 I have never understood how you entertainers could be on the road 342 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,200 and do every-other-night or one-night stands. 343 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:09,360 I don't understand it either, that's how come I ain't doing it! 344 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,080 'I've had people ask me that question a lot. 345 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,080 'You know, "How could you just stop?" 346 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,480 'Well, to me, it wasn't stopping anything. 347 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,720 'It was doing something else.' 348 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:29,080 I mean, I like music, but I'm not going to place my whole worth on it. 349 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,040 You know how unhappy you would be 350 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,960 if you thought that the way you are is not OK? 351 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,680 I started out my life like that. I don't want to end it up like that. 352 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:47,320 OK, we're on our way to get... a birthday cake. 353 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,160 I'm getting just a "7-0". 354 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:53,560 I don't want him to have to struggle to blow out 70 candles. 355 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,880 We are putting this here. 356 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:06,480 - This doesn't seem very formal, but... - Doug. - Yeah? - You cool? 357 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:07,720 Yeah. 358 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,000 But we still have to celebrate. 359 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,880 We would love you to make a gigantic wish and blow out your candles. 360 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:20,200 You don't have to divulge the wish but we'd love you to make a wish. 361 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:24,560 THEY CLAP AND WHOOP 362 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,360 'I'm a senior citizen.' 363 00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:29,440 That's OK with me. 364 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:35,400 'I'm OK with my grey hair and my... you know, my narrowing shoulders.' 365 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:36,920 To the Country Inn. 366 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,440 'The most important thing is to be OK, you know. 367 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,360 'I just want to feel good. 368 00:23:43,360 --> 00:23:46,480 'I know what it feels like not to feel all right. 369 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,040 'You know, guilt and regret, aches and pains. 370 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:55,160 'I'd really like to learn to accept everything before I die.' 371 00:23:55,160 --> 00:24:01,200 - Hey, Bill. - Hey, man, how you doing? Look out! Jimmy! - What's going on? 372 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,600 How you doing? Boy, you still look like a teenager. How you doing? 373 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:10,520 - Good seeing you, Bill. - You too, man, you too. - It must be your son. - Yep. 374 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,040 Looks just like you! 375 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:16,480 How are you doing, man? How's everything? How's everything going? 376 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,200 I'm his daughter, but last time I remember you, you held me on your lap. 377 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,640 - We went over to your mom's house. - Yeah. How you doing, sugar? 378 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,200 Well, you could still sit on there. You know, not too long, though. 379 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:32,200 # When I wake up in the morning, love... # 380 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,480 - Great to see you, how you doing? - I'm so glad to see you, girl. 381 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,800 # And something without warning, love... # 382 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,160 Yeah, girl, come here. How you doing? 383 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,120 I'm fine. This is Delores. 384 00:24:46,120 --> 00:24:49,040 # Then I look at you 385 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:54,120 # And the world's all right with me... # 386 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,600 - You're looking good, man. - Thank you. You're looking great! 387 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,680 - I actually turned 70 today. - Oh, wow. 388 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:08,080 'Some people are just born cool. They'd been cool all their lives, you know. 389 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,000 'Well, I hadn't been cool all my life. 390 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,840 'I was an asthmatic stutterer as a kid. 391 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,240 'One popular thing is, "Spit it out! Spit it out!" 392 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,840 'And then they have all these folky kind of cures, 393 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,960 'like hitting you in the face with a dishrag or something, you know what I mean. 394 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,200 'Really stupid stuff. You know.' 395 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,920 I grew up with, "You can't do nothing." 396 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,200 One teacher said to me once that I was handicapped. 397 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,040 And I didn't like that word. 398 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,120 So any dreams that I had, I kept them to myself. 399 00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:44,960 Once you're labelled sort of a less-than person, it gave me 400 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,000 this crisis of confidence. 401 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:53,280 I just wanted to leave. And then go and start over with some new people. 402 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:02,840 The Navy, at that age, you know, 17, seemed like somewhere to go. 403 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:07,120 # If you don't look into your mind 404 00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:10,360 # And find out what you're running from 405 00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:17,960 # Tomorrow might be just another day to run... # 406 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:23,360 These are my old Navy buddies. I've known these guys since I was... 407 00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:25,760 21. 408 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,240 We all met in Guam. 409 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,040 There was not much for us to do socially, 410 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,320 so it was frustrating, because you got all these young guys, you know, 411 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,080 who had all this testosterone. 412 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,000 'And there was nowhere for them to go.' 413 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,520 Good old Bill. 414 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:42,560 This is the man. 415 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,040 'You know what they told me about Guam?' 416 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,720 The guy says, "Oh, you're going to Guam. 417 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,480 "There's a woman behind every tree. 418 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,720 "There's only two trees." LAUGHTER 419 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,360 It was hard on a brother in Guam. It was funny times. 420 00:26:59,360 --> 00:27:02,520 - That was a whole lot of life real fast. You know? - Yeah. 421 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,520 On the way over I was thinking... 422 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:05,960 When I first seen you, 423 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,880 didn't you bring a guitar to Guam? 424 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:15,440 - No. No. I never owned a guitar until 1970 or something. - Is that right? 425 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,200 Yeah, I don't know an F Sharp from Ninth Street. 426 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,920 And when you got there you found that little old bar. 427 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,400 You were singing Johnny Mathis, more so. 428 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,760 - Or whatever the piano player could play. - Is that right? 429 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,840 Couple of drinks, man, everybody, you know... You start singing. 430 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,480 Shoot. Yeah. 431 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,440 But I still hadn't given it any thought as to making a living out of it. 432 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:48,440 # When you appeared in my imagination... # 433 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,560 He's always been just Bill Withers to me. 434 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,480 I'm sure that's what you feel too. 435 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,680 I don't think he would want it any different. 436 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,680 'My real life was when I was just a working guy. 437 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:05,560 'Just in the Navy, just a mechanic, you know what I mean. 438 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,320 'But the true measure of any group of people is, 439 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,200 'how are the ones that are just people?' 440 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,840 # You were here in my memory 441 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:22,360 # And I love you now that you're here. # 442 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:30,360 - I was an aircraft mechanic, in the Navy nine years. - Is that right? 443 00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:33,440 I can do masonry and all these things. Now... 444 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,680 Were you writing songs while doing that? 445 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:42,120 I've written songs working at McDonnell Douglas. 446 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,760 Use Me, you know, working on the airplane, and things. 447 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,680 THEY LAUGH 448 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:52,440 - Grandma's Hands, Weber Aircraft in Burbank. - Is that right? 449 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,680 You understand what I'm saying? 450 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,160 You're working on the thing and singing it over and over 451 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,880 to yourself so you don't forget it before you get home. 452 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:02,920 Wow. 453 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,360 You know what's funny? 454 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,040 People say, "He wrote that song about that woman." 455 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,320 I didn't know none of them damn women when I was writing them songs. 456 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,080 I couldn't get no women, 457 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,600 I was making 3 an hour working in the damn thing! 458 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,520 'Uno, dos, tres, cuatro.' 459 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:28,560 I was 23 years old, I was a graduate student, UCLA, working on my MBA. 460 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,600 And my sister and I decided we wanted... Actually, it was me. 461 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,880 I wanted to go see Gil Scott-Heron. 462 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,760 There's a vacant table. She said, "Let's go sit there." "It says reserved." 463 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:47,360 Lo and behold, it was Bill sitting there, which I didn't know. 464 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,840 She recognised him. That's how I met him. 465 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,880 I wasn't starstruck at all. He was this regular, normal person. 466 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:03,040 He was interesting and was interested in me. 467 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,720 # When I'm kissing my love 468 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,560 # Thump-a-thumping in my head 469 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,280 # Now, when I'm kissing my love 470 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,400 # I close my eyes and see 471 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:24,080 # A pretty city with a million flowers in it. # 472 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:28,000 A lot of men can't express what they're feeling, and he can. 473 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,640 He can, you know, he's sensitive but tough. 474 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,920 # Put your foot on the rock and put your foot, don't stop 475 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,640 # Put your foot on the rock 476 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,920 # Put your foot on the rock I know you just can't stop 477 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,360 # Put your foot on the rock 478 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,440 # When I'm kissing my love 479 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,440 # Feel the blood pumping in my veins 480 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,240 # Now, when I'm kissing my love 481 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,960 # She's such a tender sender 482 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,160 # With her sweet young frame 483 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,000 # Ah, ha, ha 484 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,520 # She's so good at what she does 485 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,960 # All she wants to do is kiss and hug 486 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,240 # She's got me in love and I can feel my heart 487 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:14,880 # Just pumping and skipping 488 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,720 # When I'm kissing my love. # 489 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:23,440 As soon as I figured out who I was, I married an MBA. Know what I mean? 490 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:31,600 The one thing about Marcia, she's an optimist in the face of everything. 491 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,320 We live a life that is comfortable and simple, 492 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:40,760 and I think Bill never really wanted these riches and material things. 493 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,400 When the kids came along, he was home a lot. 494 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,040 He didn't do a lot of touring. 495 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,040 There were times when I'm sure he missed being in the business, 496 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:52,920 making music, but I think that it was more important for him 497 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,560 to have a life and a family. 498 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,560 He'd never had a family before. 499 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,080 He had his mother, but his dad died when he was 13, 500 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,240 and it was really important for him to be a father to the kids. 501 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:23,000 # I get a warm summer feeling 502 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,800 # Walking through the snow 503 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:32,720 # Even chilly darkness 504 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,440 # Has the brightest glow 505 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:44,120 # And I just love you so. # 506 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:48,440 From very early on, my father played a lot of music at home. 507 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,520 Music was never something that was pushed, it was just there. 508 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,960 We had two pianos at home, on opposite sides of the house. 509 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,800 It certainly was something that blended the family together, 510 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,360 it was something we all shared. 511 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:06,200 - You're the navigator. - OK. - You're getting the tour. 512 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:11,680 - 'This was Todd's big day, accepted into this law school.' - Exciting! 513 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,520 'It's exciting for him and for us. 514 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,680 'I really learned about this whole family thing from Marcia. 515 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,200 'I think the older you get,' 516 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:26,160 the more your concerns shift from you to other people. 517 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:32,280 So, Todd, do I have to start calling you mister in a couple years? 518 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:36,000 Growing up listening to my dad's songs was just 519 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:40,480 the most peaceful space I remember being able to have as a child. 520 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,720 He kind of speaks in little poems. 521 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,800 You know, the sky is blue, and I'm happy to see you. 522 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,880 You know, he'd just pull it out of anywhere. 523 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,160 Quit crying and start trying. 524 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,360 A lot of times he says, "Write this down. Get a pencil." 525 00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,120 I'm sure my mother has hundreds of little pieces of paper 526 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,760 all over the house, not even full songs, but two lines. 527 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,080 Just a thought. 528 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,480 Sometimes he'll call me just to say, 529 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,320 "I was thinking this and want you to make a note of it." 530 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,600 Then some of these things make it into Songville. 531 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,240 Growing up, I always wanted to be just like my dad, really. 532 00:34:21,240 --> 00:34:26,320 When I started writing songs, it just took a lot of courage to say 533 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,160 that's really, secretly, what I want to do. 534 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:34,120 # Paint a portrait of tomorrow 535 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:39,360 # With no colours from today. # 536 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,280 I always wanted to write, but I always thought, 537 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,760 "How could I ever come close to doing the things he did?" 538 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,600 Just because I know I'm a different person. 539 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,080 I knew I wasn't going to sit down the first time I picked up a guitar 540 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:57,000 and write Ain't No Sunshine, but I know what he thinks is good. 541 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,320 I didn't want to share anything with him. 542 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,120 I ended up playing something for him when I wasn't ready, 543 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,680 and he was just, "No, this is not happening." 544 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:09,960 It was hard for me because I needed him to just be my dad and say, 545 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,520 "I'm proud of you working on something, 546 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,720 "I'm excited about your journey." 547 00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:16,160 It was none of that. 548 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:26,480 One thing I always tell my kids, it's OK to hit out for wonderful, 549 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,560 but on your way to wonderful, you have to pass through all right. 550 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,080 When you get to all right, take a good look around 551 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,680 and get used to it, cos that may be as far as you go. 552 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:42,560 Most people don't know or don't care who you are. 553 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,200 I think I'm kind of like pennies. 554 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,240 You have them in your pocket but don't remember they're there. 555 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:51,880 Nobody knows who I am. 556 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:56,000 Sometimes if I tell somebody who I am, they'll say, "No, you ain't!" 557 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,080 Or people don't know, never did and don't care. 558 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,440 I don't work the circuit where you keep reminding people of you, 559 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:05,680 you know? 560 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:10,000 This is my first tribute kind-of-thing. 561 00:36:11,240 --> 00:36:16,200 We're here tonight for Bill Withers and his amazing catalogue of music. 562 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,080 An amazing vocalist, songwriter, musician, 563 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:24,000 and someone I've loved and appreciated for many years. 564 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:29,240 So congratulations, Bill, and for you for coming out to support him. 565 00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:33,920 Brooklyn's own Corey Glover! 566 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:41,840 # A man we passed just tried to stare me down 567 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:49,160 # And when I looked at you, you looked at the ground 568 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:58,640 # Now, I don't know who he is, but I think that you do. # 569 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,720 Y'all know this one. 570 00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:07,480 # Dag gummit, who is he and what is he to you? # 571 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:28,600 # Memories take you back to the good times 572 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,560 # When it's over 573 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,280 # And the sad times disappear. # 574 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,480 It would be kind of rough to just go out there and say, 575 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,040 "I want to see how many people I can make notice me." 576 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:46,440 There was a time when that was it. 577 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,840 I wanted everybody to look at me, to want to know me. 578 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,800 There was a time for that. 579 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,560 This is not that time. 580 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,560 What if I had to get up from here right now, 581 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:05,400 and about nine o'clock tonight, start trying to kick up a ruckus? 582 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:09,280 I'm not feeling that way. 583 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:15,480 No matter how many people say, "You should feel that way." I can't. 584 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,160 If I was completely honest with myself, 585 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,280 I'm probably a little manic-depressive. 586 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:27,120 That's why I might write some songs that might reach somebody else's emotions, cos I have some. 587 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,840 I have my own. 588 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,240 Wouldn't it be fun to all of a sudden jump up 589 00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:35,160 and start shaking it around? 590 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,680 That'd be something. 591 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,840 If I just had some showing-off steroids, man, 592 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:46,000 you would get tired of me, you know what I mean? 593 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,160 I want to. I want to. 594 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,160 I watch other people show off, and I say, 595 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,160 "Man, I used to want to show off." 596 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:58,360 If I could just get moved to. 597 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,600 I need a little injection in my showing-off gland. 598 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,760 # Memories are that way... # 599 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,560 Is he going to sing again? What's he doing? 600 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,080 I'd love to see Bill sing another record. 601 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,480 There's millions of people that would love to hear 602 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,200 Bill Withers again. 603 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,400 If he wants to do it, fine. 604 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,320 If he don't want to, I respect that too, 605 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,160 because what he's been through, with the record business 606 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:32,600 and his life, to come through it, I may not want to sing again neither. 607 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:37,320 In some ways I think it's really cool he hasn't made a record since 1985. 608 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,200 If he feels like he's got nothing to say, or he wants to 609 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:45,680 focus on his family, you've got to define your priorities for yourself. 610 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,640 For me, it shows the artist that he is. 611 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,920 Not only about money, it's about the beauty of the song. 612 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:58,800 For him not to write a song or album for 23 years, from me to him, 613 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,240 I say, respect. 614 00:40:01,240 --> 00:40:04,440 It would be great to do some stuff with Bill again. 615 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,000 It would be, you know, I've always thought about that. 616 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,320 We haven't played together for 30 years. 617 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,800 In my career, that was probably the best times that I had. 618 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,840 No telling what might happen. 619 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,840 Bill might pop up in the next studio doing something. 620 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,000 He's always doing something, don't think Bill's not recording. 621 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,640 He's doing something, writing. It's in his blood. 622 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:32,360 Just like it's in mine to play this guitar. It's in his blood to write. 623 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,840 Something might pop up. I stay optimistic. 624 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,800 Until then, I'll keep on grooving. 625 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,600 The hardest thing to be in songwriting is to be simple 626 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,160 yet profound. 627 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:48,280 It's difficult, it's a very difficult artform. 628 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:53,400 Some people have it intrinsically, some have to work very hard, 629 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:58,640 but Bill seemed to understand intrinsically, instinctively, 630 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,080 how to do that. 631 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,120 Bill Withers could work a lot and make a whole lot of money 632 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:07,800 if he wanted to do that, but I don't think he's comfortable doing that. 633 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,960 People call me all the time, "Can I get Bill?" 634 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,680 I say, "Don't call me, cos I don't think he's going to do it." 635 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,720 DREAMY SYNTH MUSIC PLAYS 636 00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:20,000 SYNTH INSTRUMENTAL OBSCURES SINGING 637 00:41:31,240 --> 00:41:37,800 We are so remiss in over-valuing entertainers, 638 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,760 of which I am one, no problem. 639 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:47,880 And athletes, and undervaluing the people among us 640 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,640 who have less obvious gifts. 641 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,840 Let me ask you this question about your own legacy, 642 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:58,480 both personally, as a human being, and as a great artist, 643 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,560 what would you want your legacy to be? 644 00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:19,600 I'm in New York because I have the pleasure of being honoured 645 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,560 by the Our Time Theatre Group, for kids who stutter. 646 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,640 It's a great thing, very close to my heart. 647 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:32,840 Having navigated through my youth and well into my adulthood 648 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,040 dealing with that issue, 649 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,760 it's fun to, you know, 650 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,520 see this thing grow. 651 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,520 APPLAUSE 652 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,200 I grew up in a place called Slab Fork, West Virginia, 653 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,560 I'm sure you've been there on many vacations... 654 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,360 LAUGHTER 655 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,160 Swam in our creek. 656 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:05,640 No disrespect to Slab Fork, it's a coal-mining camp. 657 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:10,440 And stuttering is rough for kids, but stuttering in Slab Fork, West Virginia - 658 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,720 let's just say you don't go to Slab Fork on the scholarship. 659 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:20,000 When you're a kid you want to be cool, and you want to be cool with the cool people. 660 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:27,920 And that doesn't always happen, so if you can learn to value the people who value you. 661 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,880 And I was very moved when I saw these kids 662 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,560 talking about how much they meant to each other. 663 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,520 I am honoured to be honoured, and let's hope 664 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:43,520 that each kid finds his own personal comfort zone, 665 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,800 where he can grow, and nurture whatever gifts that he might have 666 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,480 because if you take away the people who stutter 667 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:56,440 from the world, you're left with a whole bunch of chatty... 668 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:57,680 LAUGHTER 669 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,160 Fill in your own word. 670 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,440 The kids are so excited, I've been playing your music, 671 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:16,760 - and they cannot wait to meet you and talk with you. - Yeah... 672 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:21,160 - You are a role model for me, and for them. - Oh, thank you, bud. Let's go see 'em. 673 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,600 - Right here. - All right... - Come on in. 674 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:28,600 - OK... - Ladies and gentlemen, may I introduce Mr Bill Withers! 675 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:37,440 Our Time kids, feel free to come up and introduce yourself. 676 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,120 Yeah. 677 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,880 Hi, my name is Victoria. 678 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,160 Hi, sweetie. 679 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,280 - Tanya. - Hi, sweetie. - Nice to meet you. 680 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,400 How you feeling, bud? My man. 681 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:51,480 What's your name? 682 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,560 - Er...Joe. - All right, Joe. 683 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:59,240 You know, what I noticed when we were meeting is, 684 00:44:59,240 --> 00:45:01,400 it's almost like fingerprints. 685 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:06,000 We each have our own style of stutterings, which makes us unique. 686 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:10,320 I really identified with people who stop at their name. 687 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:14,960 Last night this friend of mine, who's a fairly well-known painter, 688 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,320 had this thing, so there were a lot of athletes 689 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,400 and people that I had seen in my life, 690 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,440 so I wanted to say hello to everybody and introduce myself. 691 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:29,320 And I went over to this one guy, and man, I got stuck. 692 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,600 And it brought back memories, because there was a woman with him 693 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,320 and she started to laugh. 694 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:41,040 It was fear. Fear of the perception of the listener. 695 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:43,800 This fear that makes us 696 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,800 apprehensive right at the point of trying to speak, 697 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,960 that stops us. 698 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,760 Well, one of the ways to deal with the fear is to approach people 699 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,880 with a prepared forgiveness. 700 00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:01,160 We have to be more civil than most people that we will encounter. 701 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:05,640 Having had people not understand me a lot 702 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,760 maybe helped me wait a little beat to where I can extend 703 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,600 something that hasn't been given to me. 704 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,000 And I think that makes you a much bigger person. 705 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,160 We are thrilled to have you here, 706 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,400 and everything that you said just means so much to me personally, 707 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,360 and we'd love to sing for you today. 708 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,280 I would have been insulted if you would have not done. 709 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,720 LAUGHTER 710 00:46:27,720 --> 00:46:33,520 # Sometimes I feel like everyone's always ignoring me 711 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:43,560 # Sometimes I feel like everyone's always ridiculing me 712 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,480 # All I want in this whole world 713 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:54,480 # Is to be myself, and nobody else 714 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,360 # All I want in this whole world 715 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:02,800 # Is love, is love 716 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,960 # Is love 717 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,120 # All I want 718 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,520 # In this world 719 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,600 # Is love 720 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,160 # All I want 721 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,560 # In this world 722 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,360 # Is love 723 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,480 # All I want 724 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,360 # In this world 725 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,480 # Is love. # 726 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,960 I understood what you meant, you know. 727 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,840 There's an old Southern saying that says, you know, 728 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,560 it don't sound right if it ain't said right. 729 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:55,480 You know. So you guys are saying, your feeling's right, so just keep doing that. 730 00:47:55,480 --> 00:48:00,400 And er... it's really a big favour to me, 731 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,720 for you guys to remind me of some things that maybe I had forgotten. 732 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,240 And maybe to show me some things that I didn't know. 733 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,960 So you guys are...are cool. 734 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,160 APPLAUSE AND WHOOPING 735 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,680 And next time I see you I probably won't be this nice. 736 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,600 LAUGHTER 737 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,320 We have to make allowances for each other! 738 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:59,520 Thoreau I think said the mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation. 739 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,880 I would like to know how it feels for my desperation to get louder. 740 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:14,160 Yes, Raul Midon, please. 741 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,480 - 'Hello.' - Hello, Raul. - 'Yes.' 742 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,440 - It's Bill Withers. How you doing, bud? - 'Oh, good.' 743 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,000 I was hoping that at some point or another, you know, 744 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,040 that you would maybe have just a little time 745 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,760 so we could just mess around, you know? 746 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,720 Just you and me, you know, we could plonk around, 747 00:49:33,720 --> 00:49:37,400 - I'll even break out my old Linn drum machine... - Raul LAUGHS 748 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,280 - ..make some noise, you know what I mean? - 'I don't know what to say. 749 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,800 'I'm just so happy that you're interested 750 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,560 'and, man, I'd love to put our heads together.' 751 00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:50,160 - I'd like to try something out on you, Raul. - 'OK.' 752 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:55,720 Because I've always wanted to write something in Spanish. 753 00:49:55,720 --> 00:49:59,880 I had a friend, a Cuban friend. And we worked together 754 00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:03,520 and we laughed all the time, and it was just great. 755 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:07,880 - And I really miss him, you know? - 'Yeah.' 756 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:13,600 What I was thinking, to start off, "Mi amigo Cubano, hola, como esta? 757 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:19,200 "Que paso, mi hermano", and I don't know whether you would say "tu" 758 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:24,480 or "usted" there, but one or the other. I'll just say "tu y yo no mas hablar." 759 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,840 'Yeah, "tu", definitely, because you're good friends.' 760 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,840 Now your background is what, Raul? 761 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,200 'My background is my mother was African-American 762 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,960 'and my father is Argentinian. 763 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:42,720 'When I lived in Miami, I got very deeply involved in Cuban music, 764 00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:46,560 'the music of guaguanco. In guaguanco, everything goes together 765 00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,400 'so there's the clave, right?' Raul TAPS A RHYTHM 766 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:54,800 - OK. - 'And then it goes boom boom boom boom, boom boom boom boom, 767 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,720 'boom boom boom boom, you know? 768 00:50:56,720 --> 00:51:00,560 'As you're doing all that, you sing, and you keep all that going. 769 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:04,440 '# Ae, ae, ae la chambelona 770 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:08,000 '# Ae, ae, ae la chambelona 771 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:13,080 RAUL SINGS AT PACE IN SPANISH 772 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:17,880 - You know what I'm saying?' - Yeah, Raul. Yeah, man, 773 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,680 We're going to use all that stuff you know, Raul. 774 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:26,120 That's about all the preview I would like to do on that. 775 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,240 Let's just walk in with a blank sheet of paper 776 00:51:28,240 --> 00:51:30,520 and see what we can mark on it. 777 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,560 - 'Sounds good to me.' - Yeah. 778 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,400 # Sometimes a song is funky 779 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,480 # Cos you feel that way 780 00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:45,720 # A song might be easy and melancholy on another day 781 00:51:45,720 --> 00:51:48,880 # Sometimes a song gets mean and evil 782 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,480 # Cos it ain't going right 783 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,720 # Sometimes a song just might get nervous 784 00:51:54,720 --> 00:51:56,720 # Cos you might be uptight. # 785 00:51:56,720 --> 00:51:59,840 I don't even know what chords he has for it, you know, 786 00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:04,040 so it's all going to be kind of a question of openness. 787 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:08,920 I'm going to bring what I have to the table and hopefully, you know, 788 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,560 come up with something. I mean, I just felt very honoured. 789 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,280 Dad? 790 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,160 # Sometimes a song is tender, sometimes a song is sad. # 791 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,080 Raul! Hey, bud. 792 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,280 # Maybe that evening that you wrote the song 793 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,160 # That's all the feeling you had. # 794 00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,520 How you doing, Raul? Let's walk to the studio. 795 00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,520 # Sometimes a song just feels real good 796 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,280 # And lays right there in the groove. # 797 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:35,000 - Feels like a studio. - Yeah? 798 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:41,080 I'm going to be largely dependent on you because I have no skills, Raul. 799 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,960 - See, you're the virtuoso. - I'm... - No, I'm serious. 800 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,520 I've got this stuff in here, I can't play any of this stuff. 801 00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,880 I learned, do you know what, 802 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,440 instead of putting myself in a situation where my blindness 803 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:58,920 makes me inferior, I'm going to create a situation where 804 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,640 I can put my strengths out there. 805 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:06,280 I think that when you're disabled in any way or when you have some... 806 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,920 I think you have to figure out how you learn. 807 00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,680 - But you know what, Raul, you use the word disabled. - Right. 808 00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:19,040 You are enabled in other areas that the average person doesn't have. 809 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,480 I was a stutterer until I was 28. 810 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,760 I used to avoid the phone and, you know, 811 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,480 just anywhere where you had to talk. 812 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:33,440 And people would get up in your face and say "Spit it out, spit it out!" 813 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:37,240 As if you had a choice in the matter, you know what I mean? 814 00:53:37,240 --> 00:53:39,840 As if you got in that line and said, 815 00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:43,840 "Well, I think I'm going to get in", you know, when you're getting ready 816 00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,640 to be born, you know, like, "I think I'll get in the stuttering line." 817 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:52,800 And the thing is, what do you do after you find out you're here? 818 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:57,400 So then, you know, there was a phrase that I kept batting around, 819 00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:01,080 "In my mind's eye, I can see the world from here." 820 00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,880 - Right. Wow. - How's that? 821 00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:07,520 - I love it. - You want to play with that later. - Yes. 822 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:11,400 - Why don't you write it down so you don't forget it. - I'm writing it down. 823 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:15,120 I love it, and it could be something about being clear. 824 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:19,840 - Yeah, OK, write down "clear". "I can see the world from here." - Yeah. 825 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,960 - Because it's... - "And sometimes I..." 826 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,680 Because clarity, in the mind's eye, is absolute. 827 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,720 - It can be absolute. - OK. OK, now let's begin another line. 828 00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:37,880 - "I can hear the dream, my dream, so clear." - Yeah. 829 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,680 "Just an idea, just an idea." 830 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,760 - OK. - That's good, Raul. That's good. 831 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,680 "In my mind's eye, I can see the world from here. 832 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,400 "And sometimes I can hear my dreams so clear." 833 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,280 Get down, Raul, come on, brother. 834 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,880 Throw something in the pot. There you go. 835 00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,160 Because people always ask me about dreams. 836 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,520 "How do you dream if you can see?" Well, I hear in my dreams, don't you? 837 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,600 - Yeah. - You know what I mean? 838 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,600 It's not about seeing, it's about being in your dream. 839 00:55:20,240 --> 00:55:23,200 I don't know what would motivate someone at the point 840 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,600 in their life that he's in, with the break that he's taken. 841 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,800 But I do know that he has no problem throwing down 842 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,800 when he feels like throwing down. 843 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,000 When he wants to do something, I mean, he's just obsessed, 844 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,840 he's all in, up at two o'clock in the morning, not eating, 845 00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,440 not sleeping, and that's exhausting. 846 00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,480 # Mi amigo Cubano. # 847 00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,840 No, I'm looking for the count-in. 848 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:54,680 # Hola, como esta? 849 00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:58,440 # Mi amigo Cubano 850 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,160 # Que paso, mi hermano? # 851 00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,400 - Yeah. - Something like that. 852 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,600 # Mi amigo Cubano... # 853 00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,680 There you go, Raul, that's what I'm talking about. 854 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,400 That was pretty cool, actually. 855 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:37,000 You know, you know, it all gets back to that thing. 856 00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,200 If you start sweet then you got somewhere to go. 857 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,760 Let me go to 41 here and see what's happening, Raul. 858 00:56:44,240 --> 00:56:46,600 Bear with me here, one more time, OK? 859 00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:50,040 Listen to this and then I'll make my next edit, OK? 860 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:56,600 - # Hola, como esta? # - I think Bill is always thinking of songs. 861 00:56:56,600 --> 00:57:00,600 He has songs that he's created over the last 10, 862 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:05,720 15 years that are on tape. 863 00:57:05,720 --> 00:57:08,200 He put a lot into building that studio. 864 00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:12,160 I think in his imagination, he felt, I'm going to do some music. 865 00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,800 Whether or not he was actually going to put it out there, 866 00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,160 that's another story. 867 00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,000 Background - # Amigo cubano! 868 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:21,720 # Ba-do be-da-boo-dee... # 869 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:25,080 Selfishly, it would be fantastic, fantastic, 870 00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,640 if he would get a record together 871 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:32,400 and it'd be new music and all that kind of stuff. 872 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:36,960 It'd be fun, but realistically, I'm not sure that he wants that. 873 00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:42,400 He just hasn't wanted to get back into the music business. 874 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,800 # Que paso, mi hermano. # 875 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:49,240 RAUL IMITATES A TRUMPET 876 00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,680 I'm going to go to the Carnival here. 877 00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:56,320 # Mi amigo Cubano. # 878 00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,400 There it is, there. 879 00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,400 Yeah, there it is, there it is. 880 00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,840 # Mi amigo Cubano 881 00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,920 It's got that hump with it. 882 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,080 # Que paso, mi hermano? # 883 00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:20,200 'I might just go in this frenzy, you know, 884 00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:24,480 'just become obsessed with it every day. 885 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,440 'All you hear is just noise and me. You know what I mean? 886 00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,520 'I would like that.' 887 00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:44,080 BILL SINGS SCAT 888 00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,400 Let's figure it out. # Waay-oh... # 889 00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,080 # There's just so much about you 890 00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:58,240 # That I li-I-ike 891 00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:06,360 # And it's been so good to kno-o-ow 892 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:15,800 # How you've always been there for me 893 00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:21,840 # When I needed a friend 894 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,800 # And oh, by the way 895 00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:37,000 # Any time, any time 896 00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,840 # Any time of the night or day 897 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:52,160 # I will be ju-u-ust 898 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,480 # A telephone call away. # 899 00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,880 Come on, Kori, sing that bridge. 900 01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:06,720 # Say if you need me 901 01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:10,920 # I'll always be 902 01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:16,440 # Just a telephone call 903 01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:20,920 # A-wa-a-ay. # 904 01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:26,600 - Go ahead, sing it. - # And oh, by the way 905 01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:30,560 # I just want to say 906 01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:34,240 # Any time, any ti-ime 907 01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:39,440 # Any time of the night or day 908 01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:43,800 # I will be ju-u-u-ust 909 01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:50,840 # A telephone call away. # 910 01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,240 - Yeah. - Yeah. - Haha, let's get out of here. 911 01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:57,680 That sounded really nice. 912 01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:02,040 - But Kori, girl, we can work that tune. - We can. - We can do that song. 913 01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:04,760 Yeah. 914 01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:09,200 'As far as music goes, I think my dad is a pretty honest critic, 915 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:10,720 'and I really had to toughen up 916 01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,760 'and realise that there was a difference between someone 917 01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,600 'criticising you in a way that's saying you're untalented 918 01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:18,520 'and someone being a coach, you know, 919 01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,760 'someone saying, "Yeah, that wasn't a strike."' 920 01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:25,560 - You ain't no joke, sugar. - No. 921 01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:28,520 That was so great to sing in that room. 922 01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:30,760 Yeah. You getting a little grease on you, 923 01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,160 that's what I'm talking about, you understand? 924 01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:36,200 You know, getting a little grease on you, that is, you know, 925 01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:39,200 you bringing the stuff, Kori. 926 01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,320 Let's hit this sucker here. 927 01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:50,280 Yeah. 928 01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:54,800 I knew there are ways that my father is gifted, 929 01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:56,720 and that I'm different than that, 930 01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,360 and that I'm going to have to find my own process 931 01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:00,600 and sort of my own way, 932 01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,400 and for me I just knew that I wanted to get better. 933 01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:08,960 - You just be comfortable and we'll make all this work. - OK. - Yeah. 934 01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,080 - Er... - I'm going to lift this just slightly. 935 01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,960 Do what you want to with it. You want it closer, further away? 936 01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:15,080 No, that's good. 937 01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,240 This is a... This is called Blue Blues. 938 01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:34,160 # I've moved on 939 01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:36,880 # From you 940 01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:39,800 # So I say 941 01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:43,040 # So it seemed 942 01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:47,240 # You are gone 943 01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,560 # Far away 944 01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,760 # I let you go 945 01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:54,880 # I set you free 946 01:02:56,200 --> 01:03:04,080 # Still I swim in a sea 947 01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:07,120 # Of you 948 01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:19,720 # My blue... # 949 01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:26,120 'My biggest fear, worst nightmare, was that 950 01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:29,800 'I would be a disappointment to him, that I would show him what I had 951 01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:31,520 'and he would be disappointed, 952 01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,840 'because I knew he always was really eager' 953 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:35,920 to work with me, and I was always just like, 954 01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,840 "Why? You're Bill Withers. Why would you ever want to do that?" 955 01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:40,960 Like, why would you ever want to do that? 956 01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:45,120 And I just could never see how he and I could sit in a room as equals and do anything together. 957 01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:46,720 # I give up 958 01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:49,440 # I give in 959 01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,360 # I can't hide away 960 01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:56,840 # This love I'm in 961 01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:00,960 # Will never have me 962 01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:06,680 # Will only leave me 963 01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:13,600 # Deep in the sea of my blue, blue blues. # 964 01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,480 - HE SOBS - Oh, that's great. - Oh, I'm sorry. 965 01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,480 SHE LAUGHS 966 01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:47,120 I'm just, erm... You know, I'm just glad to see you. 967 01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,000 HE SNIFFS 968 01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:52,360 Er... 969 01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,000 HE SOBS 970 01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,720 - You know what I mean. - Yeah. 971 01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:04,000 Let's hear that. Let's hear that. 972 01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,120 RECORDING PLAYS 973 01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,880 We're all accidents at birth, you know? 974 01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,920 We don't get to choose, you know, what we look like, 975 01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:20,120 we don't get to choose how gifted we're going to be, 976 01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,240 how tall, how strong, 977 01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,680 we don't get to choose anything about what we're going to be. 978 01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,760 One day, somebody says, "You ARE." 979 01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:34,400 At some point or another, we have a choice... 980 01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,560 ..if we're sane enough by that point, 981 01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,880 as to how much we're going to apply ourselves, 982 01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:48,800 and a lot of that is influenced by the people who nurture us. 983 01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,480 'I already did what I did.' 984 01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:06,000 You know, I'm not that little boy or that young guy any more 985 01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,160 that hasn't had any validation. 986 01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:28,520 CHEERING 987 01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:45,640 # Grandma's hand 988 01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:49,000 # Clapped in church on Sunday morning 989 01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,160 # Grandma's hand 990 01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:53,560 # Played a tambourine so well 991 01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,160 # Grandma's hand 992 01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:59,240 # Issued out a warning 993 01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:02,400 # Billy, don't you run so fast 994 01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,160 # Might fall on a piece of glass 995 01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,800 # Might be snakes there in that grass 996 01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:09,440 # Grandma's hand 997 01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:48,800 # And you know that Grandma's hands 998 01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:52,440 # Soothed a local unwed mother 999 01:08:52,440 --> 01:08:54,760 # Grandma's hand 1000 01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:58,320 # It aches some times and swells 1001 01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:00,480 # Grandma's hands 1002 01:09:00,480 --> 01:09:02,160 # Lift her face and tell her 1003 01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:05,960 # Baby, Grandma, understand 1004 01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:08,040 # That your really love that man 1005 01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:09,840 # Even though he ain't no good 1006 01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:13,080 # Grandma's hand... # 1007 01:09:14,480 --> 01:09:15,960 Come on, play it, man. 1008 01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:21,440 # A man we passed 1009 01:10:21,440 --> 01:10:24,800 # Just tried to stare me down 1010 01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:30,040 # And when I looked at you 1011 01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:34,240 # You looked at the ground... # 1012 01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,720 Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd 80665

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