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# Ain't no sunshine when she's gone
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# It's not warm when she's away
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# Ain't no sunshine when she's gone
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# She always gone too long Anytime she goes away
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# Wonder this time where she's gone
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# Wonder if she's gonna stay
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# Ain't no sunshine when she's gone
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# This house just ain't no home anytime she goes away
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# I know, I know, I know, I know, I know
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# I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know
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# I know, I know, I know
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# I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know
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# I know, I know, I know
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# I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know
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# I know, I know, I know, I know, I know
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# Hey, I oughta leave the young thing alone
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# But ain't no sunshine when she's gone
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# Anytime she goes away
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# Anytime she goes awa-aay. #
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APPLAUSE
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TV PLAYS
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Can I take us right back to when you first started?
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- How did your recording career come about?
- I saved up some of my own money and recorded myself.
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I had never written any songs,
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I didn't really know how to play anything and I had never sung before. Not really,
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you know, in the shower or some place. But I just...
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decided it would be awfully nice to get into the music business
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and then I just walked around and knocked on everybody's door.
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A lot of times, I would go in, and somebody would say to me,
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"You're too old to be just beginning."
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You know, I was like, 32 years old at the time.
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Most of the major record companies called me up.
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But they had a different idea of how...
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they didn't want me to do anything quiet.
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They had this rhythm and blues syndrome in their mind
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with the horns and the three chicks and the gold lame suit, you know.
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I wasn't really into that, I had a job,
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so I thought, "If they won't let me do it like I want to do it,
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"I've got this good job, making these toilets - I don't need you cats."
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- "Making these toilets"! What kind of toilet were you making?
- For aircraft.
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- Ah!
- Yeah, 747 aircraft.
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I installed cameras in those toilets...
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unbeknownst to anybody but me.
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So if you've ever been to the bathroom on a 747, I know you very well!
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LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE
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So...here's all the stuff that I don't know how to work.
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HE CHUCKLES
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I mean, I guess the stuff works, I know how to turn it on, you know.
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I can make lights come on and stuff. Let's see...
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Yeah, I can turn that on...
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And, er...let's see...
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Turn this fan on here to cool that down.
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This thing's been sitting here corroding for about ten years.
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I think I got a speaker thing here...
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Fooling around, let's see.
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I was just playing with all these gadgets.
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DEMOS PLAYING: DRUMS/MUSIC
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I have to be careful that I don't just wallow in my own comfort.
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Probably now, I'm trying to find some kind of motivation or, you know...
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I'm not lazy. I don't even understand.
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I'm trying to give myself a chance to get driven.
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Where just the sheer activity of doing something
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just jacks you up, makes you excited.
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I lived a good portion of my life before I started to play music.
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I had been working at Weber Aircraft and I got laid off.
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Then Ain't No Sunshine started appearing on the radio and stuff.
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It's funny, because I got two requests in the same day -
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I got a letter from my job saying that I was called back to work
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AND I got request to do the Johnny Carson Show.
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APPLAUSE
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I like that song, that was big for you, wasn't it?
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Yeah, that kind of, uh, got me off the ham and eggs thing
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and kind of tightened me up a little bit.
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We mentioned this before, that you were a craftsman
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and you made toilets, right?
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- Oh, yeah, it was a good job, I had a lot of fun doing it.
- LAUGHTER
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- Where does the fun come in, Bill?
- LAUGHTER
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'People in my own family were probably surprised when I was on the radio.
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'People had been in the Navy with,
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'people I had worked in a factory with, people that knew me
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'were probably going, "Wait a minute, is that that same guy?"'
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'If I would have gone to work the next day,'
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and told somebody where I was last night,
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I would have got laughed out of the place.
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All of a sudden, I'm travelling on the road
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and more people are interested in you than before.
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It was just like a whole other world.
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# You just call on me brother
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# When you need a hand
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# We all need somebody to lean on... #
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- Ladies and gentlemen, Mr Bill Withers!
- APPLAUSE
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# ..That you'll understand
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# We all need somebody to lean on
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# Lean on me... #
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Mr Bill Withers.
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# ..when you're not strong
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# And I'll be your friend
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# I'll help you carry on
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# For it won't be long
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# Till I'm gonna need
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# Somebody to lean on... #
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New words started to enter my life
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that had never been there before, like "handsome".
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Boy, you sure do get better-looking when you get a hit record.
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# I want to spread the news
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# That if it feels this good getting used
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# Oh you just keep on using me
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# Hey, hey, until you use me up
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# Hey, hey, until you use me up
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# Hey, hey
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# Talking about you using me but it all depends on what you do
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# It ain't too bad the way you're using me
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# Cos I sure am using you to do that thing you do
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# Hey, hey, to do that thing you do... #
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'I had never been in the entertainment business before.
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'The first live singing I did was in front of 5,000 people.
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'Suddenly, somebody says, "Go to work."'
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Can I get a big round of applause for the one and only Bill Withers!
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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# Well, I'm five years old
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# Sure am cold
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# Mama's out cooking steak
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# Cooking steak for someone else... #
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What you see as the prognosis of your career, Bill?
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You know, you'll become a big star, you're becoming a superstar.
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- Do think you can remain just as you are?
- First, I have to become
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- somebody that understands what "prognosis" means!
- INTERVIEWER LAUGHS
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Well, how do you interpret how things are going to go for you?
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Oh, yeah! I'm kinda just lettin' 'em go, you know.
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Lettin' 'em go, and whatever is given to me,
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if I can do it, you know...
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'Two or three years into this, I was in a major mess.'
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The record company actually collapsed from under me.
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Well, IRS came in and took the tapes and sold them.
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Then, when I went to this major, big, mega label,
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you walk in, you play something, somebody goes, "Where are the horns?
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"You got to put some horns on it. How long is the intro?"
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First hit record I had was Ain't No Sunshine. No intro, nothing.
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If nobody throws all them rules at you,
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you might make a song with no introduction.
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Instead of singing about romantic love all the time,
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you make a love song about your grandmother.
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Or you make a friendship song, a la Lean On Me,
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searching through your feelings and your vulnerabilities
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and your strengths and your weaknesses.
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You're already loaded up enough with the burden of just trying
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to find those feelings.
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So then, here comes a whole bunch of guys,
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trying to tell you what to do with all their goofy suggestions...
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They had the R&B black guys,
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and then they got what I like to call "Blacksperts",
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that's the white guys who are supposed to be "experts"...
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you know, who have some kind of tap into your black psyche.
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I had an A&R man once - his big suggestion to me
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was that I cover Elvis Presley's In The Ghetto.
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I was livid,
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and as I started to try to respond to that,
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that simple kind of emotional, vulnerable kind of thing,
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kind of got splattered around.
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APPLAUSE
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I became VERY interested -
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can I still stay in this business and be effective
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'and make a living and not have to play this fame game?
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'I wasn't any good at it. The fame game was kicking my ass.'
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# I see the crystal raindrops fall
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# And see the beauty of it all
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# Is when the sun comes shining through
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# To make those rainbows in my mind
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# When I think of you some time
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# And I want to spend some time with you
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# Just the two of us
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# We can make it if we try
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- # Just the two of us
- Just the two of us
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# Just the two of us
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# Building castles in the sky
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# Just the two of us You and I... #
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I would like to see us move past
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where you need the validation of the mainstream so much...
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until we got away from
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liking ourselves.
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The challenge, though, is still, once you get in that mainstream,
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to not become mainstream.
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That is to say, to remain your authentic self,
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to still make the community that produced you, proud of you.
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To not, in the cultural vernacular, become a sell-out.
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"Sell-out". I'm not crazy about that word...because...
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..we're all entrepreneurs.
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To me...
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..I don't care whether you own a furniture store or whatever,
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the best sign you can put up is, "Sold out".
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- So let's... C-C-Can we make that...
- THEY LAUGH
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Can we make that subservient?
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THEY TALK OVER EACH OTHER
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It is a profound point. One, it's a Shakespearian point.
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"To thine own self be true.
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"If night follows the day, thou can be false to no-one."
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You have been true to yourself.
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You don't sound like Paul Simon on the guitar, you're Bill Withers
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because you come out of your roots.
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When you sing Grandma's Hands, talking about Matty,
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and talking about grandma taking care of local, unwed mothers
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in Virginia, West Virginia, that's real.
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That's being yourself.
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At the same time, in being yourself, you're able to cross over
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into a white mainstream, and they had to accept you on your own terms.
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You see, looking at this thing is...
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..not new.
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Oh, boy, these pages are really...
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Well, I guess this was brothers and sisters I had that never lived.
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I was the last of 13 kids that my mother had.
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I guess I wasn't born yet, so I'm not in here anywhere.
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Grackus Monroe Galloway was my mother's father.
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He was born a slave.
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He was probably nine years old when they freed the slaves.
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He worked in the coal mines but he would never work for the coal company.
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He hauled coal... Here's Grandma.
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Now, I took this picture when I was a kid,
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so you can see what year it was by the car.
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'Most of us at some point in our lives'
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have somebody that means more to us than anyone else that's ever meant before or will ever mean again.
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Sometimes it's a long-legged lady, if you're a man,
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or some tall, very smooth man if you're a woman.
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But in my case I learned how to really love somebody
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from just a nice old lady.
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My favourite thing that I've written
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has to be about this favourite old lady of mine.
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# Mm-mm, mm-mm
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# Mm-mm
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# Mm-mm... #
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- I'm from Slab Fork, West Virginia. You know where that is, right?
- No!
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- Is that any place near Bluefield?
- Yeah, it's near Bluefield.
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- About 30 or 40 miles, I guess, from Bluefield.
- Slab Fork, West Virginia?
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# Mm-mm, mm-mm
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# Mm-mm
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# Grandma's hands clapped in church on Sunday morning
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# Grandma's hands played a tambourine so well
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# Grandma's hands used to issue out a warning
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# She's say "Billy, don't you run so fast
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# "Might fall on a piece of glass
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# "Might be snakes there in that grass"
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# Grandma's hands
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# Ah, them Grandma's hands
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# Mm-mm,
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# Mm-mm... #
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Hey, CV.
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- This is the mayor here, this is Mayor, CV.
- How you doing?
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CV's running the things. I'm good, man.
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CV was talking to my daughter and he was telling her, you know,
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"Let me tell you about your great-grandmother."
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- And so CV remembers her.
- Grandmother Galloway.
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She was a very elegant woman.
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She sat on this porch
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and she would sing spirituals right on that porch and clap her hands.
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- Remember they called it gettin' happy.
- Right, right, right!
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There's a saying, "the sleepy smiling South
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- "with blood on its mouth."
- Right, right.
- Well, we weren't in THAT South.
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This was South, in a way.
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Like, when we grew up, you didn't have to sit on the back of the bus.
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- Right, right.
- But we had separate schools.
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You had to go to the back door if you wanted a milkshake or something from one of the restaurants uptown.
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- Right.
- But the kids, left to our own devices, we played, now...
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- We sat here... That was the dividing line.
- Right.
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We were the only two black families on this side of the railroad track.
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Well, we just integrated the whole thing by ourselves.
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I think all of the black families basically, like it or not,
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most of us had white people in our families.
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You know, after you did a day's work in the coal mines,
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- everybody was black anyway!
- Yeah, yeah, well, that's true.
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- That's true.
- Wasn't nothing BUT black people here!
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'I haven't been to Slab Fork since about 1959.
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'Nobody's back there. There's nothing there much except graves,
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'and old coal mines.'
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And I'm really not too hung up on going and laying flowers on dead people.
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L-Let me b-be very candid about it. This was a white graveyard.
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This is a black graveyard.
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- Hey, Bill Withers.
- Yeah?
- What was your brother's name?
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- His name was Earl Martin.
- Here he is right here.
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- OK.
- Earl W Martin.
- Yeah, that's my brother.
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Well, they give him a nice stone. Where do you see those number...
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Oh, 1942...
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- Do you vaguely remember any location about where your father would be?
- No.
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And I don't know whether he would be buried close to Earl or not.
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Yeah, well, Papa, well, yeah. Hello, bud. I'll catch you somethin' later.
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My father taught me, you know... He put the work thing in my head.
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My mother put the moral thing in my head.
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My father used to have a little barber shop here
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and he wasn't a good barber but he told great stories.
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# Just can't keep from crying
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# Six years, Lucy
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# Lord, have mercy That's a long time
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# That's a long time... #
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All these houses were owned by the coal company
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and they all looked the same.
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- Absolutely.
- They've probably done stuff to 'em now.
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- The company owned everything.
- Which was one family.
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The coal company got your money, they paid you,
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then you had to shop...
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You shopped in their store. Now, this was the old store.
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- Yeah, company store.
- You could buy everything at this store.
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Now, this is an exceptional coal camp from the standpoint that
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it still have enough life to have some people living here.
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They had a lot of churches. They had a Baptist church, then they had a Methodist church somewhere.
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And then they had your Holy and Sanctified Church.
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CONGREGATION: # Remember me... #
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I liked my grandmother's church. It was spontaneous singing.
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There was no programmed singing.
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Somebody got up and started to sing a song, everybody sung.
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It was my favourite kind of singing.
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# Remember me
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# Oh, Lord
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# Remember me... #
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- Well, we have walked these railroad ties, huh, CV?
- Yeah.
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Now, if you want to test how skilful you are, walk this.
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Remember that used to be the thing, who could walk the rail?
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- If you can walk the rail...
- The furthest.
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- See, that's how to test how skilful you are.
- Look at you.
- Yeah.
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- I still can walk it.
- You doing tricks and stuff.
- Yeah.
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You see, that's how skilful.
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- If you break out a handstand, I'm leaving tonight.
- CV LAUGHS
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I'm telling you, this was like, life, busy, busy.
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Summertime come, we'd go around,
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- dam up the creek, get buck naked.
- And go swimming.
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Go swimming, and so the girls would time you out,
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- say, "Well, it's about swimming time," then the girls would come down there.
- Yeah.
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And stand on the side
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so you couldn't get out of the water until they left.
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- Right!
- So it was just a whole culture of stuff like that.
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It's an amazing thing, when you look back,
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and you realise that...the world changed completely around you.
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- It's gone, brother. This has gone.
- You're seeing what used to be.
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- So we are truly the last of a...
- Yeah, we getting there.
- ..of a breed.
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Yeah, we getting there.
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- Hey, Bill.
- Yeah?
- Sing it one time for me.
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# Ain't no sunshine when she's gone. #
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You already hit it. I can't hit it like you no more.
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Let me ask you, do you do any... Do you go on any tours at all now?
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- The first thing you said to me was, "You look like an old man."
- Right!
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So, now, how could you tell me in one breath that
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I look like an old man and then in the second breath tell me,
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- "You ought to be out on the road, playing rock'n'roll"?
- No.
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I have never understood how you entertainers could be on the road
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and do every-other-night or one-night stands.
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I don't understand it either, that's how come I ain't doing it!
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'I've had people ask me that question a lot.
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'You know, "How could you just stop?"
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'Well, to me, it wasn't stopping anything.
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'It was doing something else.'
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I mean, I like music, but I'm not going to place my whole worth on it.
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You know how unhappy you would be
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if you thought that the way you are is not OK?
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I started out my life like that. I don't want to end it up like that.
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OK, we're on our way to get... a birthday cake.
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I'm getting just a "7-0".
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I don't want him to have to struggle to blow out 70 candles.
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We are putting this here.
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- This doesn't seem very formal, but...
- Doug.
- Yeah?
- You cool?
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Yeah.
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But we still have to celebrate.
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We would love you to make a gigantic wish and blow out your candles.
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You don't have to divulge the wish but we'd love you to make a wish.
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THEY CLAP AND WHOOP
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'I'm a senior citizen.'
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That's OK with me.
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'I'm OK with my grey hair and my... you know, my narrowing shoulders.'
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To the Country Inn.
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'The most important thing is to be OK, you know.
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'I just want to feel good.
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'I know what it feels like not to feel all right.
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'You know, guilt and regret, aches and pains.
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'I'd really like to learn to accept everything before I die.'
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- Hey, Bill.
- Hey, man, how you doing? Look out! Jimmy!
- What's going on?
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How you doing? Boy, you still look like a teenager. How you doing?
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- Good seeing you, Bill.
- You too, man, you too.
- It must be your son.
- Yep.
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Looks just like you!
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How are you doing, man? How's everything? How's everything going?
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I'm his daughter, but last time I remember you, you held me on your lap.
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- We went over to your mom's house.
- Yeah. How you doing, sugar?
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Well, you could still sit on there. You know, not too long, though.
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# When I wake up in the morning, love... #
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- Great to see you, how you doing?
- I'm so glad to see you, girl.
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# And something without warning, love... #
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Yeah, girl, come here. How you doing?
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I'm fine. This is Delores.
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# Then I look at you
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# And the world's all right with me... #
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- You're looking good, man.
- Thank you. You're looking great!
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- I actually turned 70 today.
- Oh, wow.
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'Some people are just born cool. They'd been cool all their lives, you know.
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'Well, I hadn't been cool all my life.
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'I was an asthmatic stutterer as a kid.
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'One popular thing is, "Spit it out! Spit it out!"
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'And then they have all these folky kind of cures,
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'like hitting you in the face with a dishrag or something, you know what I mean.
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'Really stupid stuff. You know.'
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I grew up with, "You can't do nothing."
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One teacher said to me once that I was handicapped.
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And I didn't like that word.
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So any dreams that I had, I kept them to myself.
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Once you're labelled sort of a less-than person, it gave me
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this crisis of confidence.
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I just wanted to leave. And then go and start over with some new people.
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The Navy, at that age, you know, 17, seemed like somewhere to go.
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# If you don't look into your mind
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# And find out what you're running from
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# Tomorrow might be just another day to run... #
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These are my old Navy buddies. I've known these guys since I was...
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21.
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We all met in Guam.
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There was not much for us to do socially,
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so it was frustrating, because you got all these young guys, you know,
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who had all this testosterone.
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'And there was nowhere for them to go.'
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Good old Bill.
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This is the man.
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'You know what they told me about Guam?'
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The guy says, "Oh, you're going to Guam.
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"There's a woman behind every tree.
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"There's only two trees." LAUGHTER
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It was hard on a brother in Guam. It was funny times.
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- That was a whole lot of life real fast. You know?
- Yeah.
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On the way over I was thinking...
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When I first seen you,
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didn't you bring a guitar to Guam?
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- No. No. I never owned a guitar until 1970 or something.
- Is that right?
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Yeah, I don't know an F Sharp from Ninth Street.
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And when you got there you found that little old bar.
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You were singing Johnny Mathis, more so.
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- Or whatever the piano player could play.
- Is that right?
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Couple of drinks, man, everybody, you know... You start singing.
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Shoot. Yeah.
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But I still hadn't given it any thought as to making a living out of it.
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# When you appeared in my imagination... #
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He's always been just Bill Withers to me.
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I'm sure that's what you feel too.
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I don't think he would want it any different.
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'My real life was when I was just a working guy.
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'Just in the Navy, just a mechanic, you know what I mean.
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'But the true measure of any group of people is,
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'how are the ones that are just people?'
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# You were here in my memory
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# And I love you now that you're here. #
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- I was an aircraft mechanic, in the Navy nine years.
- Is that right?
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I can do masonry and all these things. Now...
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Were you writing songs while doing that?
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I've written songs working at McDonnell Douglas.
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Use Me, you know, working on the airplane, and things.
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THEY LAUGH
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- Grandma's Hands, Weber Aircraft in Burbank.
- Is that right?
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You understand what I'm saying?
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You're working on the thing and singing it over and over
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to yourself so you don't forget it before you get home.
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Wow.
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You know what's funny?
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People say, "He wrote that song about that woman."
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I didn't know none of them damn women when I was writing them songs.
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I couldn't get no women,
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I was making 3 an hour working in the damn thing!
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'Uno, dos, tres, cuatro.'
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I was 23 years old, I was a graduate student, UCLA, working on my MBA.
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And my sister and I decided we wanted... Actually, it was me.
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I wanted to go see Gil Scott-Heron.
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There's a vacant table. She said, "Let's go sit there." "It says reserved."
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Lo and behold, it was Bill sitting there, which I didn't know.
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She recognised him. That's how I met him.
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I wasn't starstruck at all. He was this regular, normal person.
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He was interesting and was interested in me.
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# When I'm kissing my love
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# Thump-a-thumping in my head
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# Now, when I'm kissing my love
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# I close my eyes and see
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# A pretty city with a million flowers in it. #
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A lot of men can't express what they're feeling, and he can.
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He can, you know, he's sensitive but tough.
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# Put your foot on the rock and put your foot, don't stop
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# Put your foot on the rock
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# Put your foot on the rock I know you just can't stop
477
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,360
# Put your foot on the rock
478
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,440
# When I'm kissing my love
479
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,440
# Feel the blood pumping in my veins
480
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,240
# Now, when I'm kissing my love
481
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,960
# She's such a tender sender
482
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,160
# With her sweet young frame
483
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,000
# Ah, ha, ha
484
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,520
# She's so good at what she does
485
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,960
# All she wants to do is kiss and hug
486
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,240
# She's got me in love and I can feel my heart
487
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:14,880
# Just pumping and skipping
488
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,720
# When I'm kissing my love. #
489
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:23,440
As soon as I figured out who I was, I married an MBA. Know what I mean?
490
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:31,600
The one thing about Marcia, she's an optimist in the face of everything.
491
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,320
We live a life that is comfortable and simple,
492
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:40,760
and I think Bill never really wanted these riches and material things.
493
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,400
When the kids came along, he was home a lot.
494
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,040
He didn't do a lot of touring.
495
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,040
There were times when I'm sure he missed being in the business,
496
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:52,920
making music, but I think that it was more important for him
497
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,560
to have a life and a family.
498
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,560
He'd never had a family before.
499
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,080
He had his mother, but his dad died when he was 13,
500
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,240
and it was really important for him to be a father to the kids.
501
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:23,000
# I get a warm summer feeling
502
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,800
# Walking through the snow
503
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:32,720
# Even chilly darkness
504
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,440
# Has the brightest glow
505
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:44,120
# And I just love you so. #
506
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:48,440
From very early on, my father played a lot of music at home.
507
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,520
Music was never something that was pushed, it was just there.
508
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,960
We had two pianos at home, on opposite sides of the house.
509
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,800
It certainly was something that blended the family together,
510
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,360
it was something we all shared.
511
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:06,200
- You're the navigator.
- OK.
- You're getting the tour.
512
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:11,680
- 'This was Todd's big day, accepted into this law school.'
- Exciting!
513
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,520
'It's exciting for him and for us.
514
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,680
'I really learned about this whole family thing from Marcia.
515
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,200
'I think the older you get,'
516
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:26,160
the more your concerns shift from you to other people.
517
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:32,280
So, Todd, do I have to start calling you mister in a couple years?
518
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:36,000
Growing up listening to my dad's songs was just
519
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:40,480
the most peaceful space I remember being able to have as a child.
520
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,720
He kind of speaks in little poems.
521
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,800
You know, the sky is blue, and I'm happy to see you.
522
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,880
You know, he'd just pull it out of anywhere.
523
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,160
Quit crying and start trying.
524
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,360
A lot of times he says, "Write this down. Get a pencil."
525
00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,120
I'm sure my mother has hundreds of little pieces of paper
526
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,760
all over the house, not even full songs, but two lines.
527
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,080
Just a thought.
528
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,480
Sometimes he'll call me just to say,
529
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,320
"I was thinking this and want you to make a note of it."
530
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,600
Then some of these things make it into Songville.
531
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,240
Growing up, I always wanted to be just like my dad, really.
532
00:34:21,240 --> 00:34:26,320
When I started writing songs, it just took a lot of courage to say
533
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,160
that's really, secretly, what I want to do.
534
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:34,120
# Paint a portrait of tomorrow
535
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:39,360
# With no colours from today. #
536
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,280
I always wanted to write, but I always thought,
537
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,760
"How could I ever come close to doing the things he did?"
538
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,600
Just because I know I'm a different person.
539
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,080
I knew I wasn't going to sit down the first time I picked up a guitar
540
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:57,000
and write Ain't No Sunshine, but I know what he thinks is good.
541
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,320
I didn't want to share anything with him.
542
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,120
I ended up playing something for him when I wasn't ready,
543
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,680
and he was just, "No, this is not happening."
544
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:09,960
It was hard for me because I needed him to just be my dad and say,
545
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,520
"I'm proud of you working on something,
546
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,720
"I'm excited about your journey."
547
00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:16,160
It was none of that.
548
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:26,480
One thing I always tell my kids, it's OK to hit out for wonderful,
549
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,560
but on your way to wonderful, you have to pass through all right.
550
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,080
When you get to all right, take a good look around
551
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,680
and get used to it, cos that may be as far as you go.
552
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:42,560
Most people don't know or don't care who you are.
553
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,200
I think I'm kind of like pennies.
554
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,240
You have them in your pocket but don't remember they're there.
555
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:51,880
Nobody knows who I am.
556
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:56,000
Sometimes if I tell somebody who I am, they'll say, "No, you ain't!"
557
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,080
Or people don't know, never did and don't care.
558
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,440
I don't work the circuit where you keep reminding people of you,
559
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:05,680
you know?
560
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:10,000
This is my first tribute kind-of-thing.
561
00:36:11,240 --> 00:36:16,200
We're here tonight for Bill Withers and his amazing catalogue of music.
562
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,080
An amazing vocalist, songwriter, musician,
563
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:24,000
and someone I've loved and appreciated for many years.
564
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:29,240
So congratulations, Bill, and for you for coming out to support him.
565
00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:33,920
Brooklyn's own Corey Glover!
566
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:41,840
# A man we passed just tried to stare me down
567
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:49,160
# And when I looked at you, you looked at the ground
568
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:58,640
# Now, I don't know who he is, but I think that you do. #
569
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,720
Y'all know this one.
570
00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:07,480
# Dag gummit, who is he and what is he to you? #
571
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:28,600
# Memories take you back to the good times
572
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,560
# When it's over
573
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,280
# And the sad times disappear. #
574
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,480
It would be kind of rough to just go out there and say,
575
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,040
"I want to see how many people I can make notice me."
576
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:46,440
There was a time when that was it.
577
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,840
I wanted everybody to look at me, to want to know me.
578
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,800
There was a time for that.
579
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,560
This is not that time.
580
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,560
What if I had to get up from here right now,
581
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:05,400
and about nine o'clock tonight, start trying to kick up a ruckus?
582
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:09,280
I'm not feeling that way.
583
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:15,480
No matter how many people say, "You should feel that way." I can't.
584
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,160
If I was completely honest with myself,
585
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,280
I'm probably a little manic-depressive.
586
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:27,120
That's why I might write some songs that might reach somebody else's emotions, cos I have some.
587
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,840
I have my own.
588
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,240
Wouldn't it be fun to all of a sudden jump up
589
00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:35,160
and start shaking it around?
590
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,680
That'd be something.
591
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,840
If I just had some showing-off steroids, man,
592
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:46,000
you would get tired of me, you know what I mean?
593
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,160
I want to. I want to.
594
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,160
I watch other people show off, and I say,
595
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,160
"Man, I used to want to show off."
596
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:58,360
If I could just get moved to.
597
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,600
I need a little injection in my showing-off gland.
598
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,760
# Memories are that way... #
599
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,560
Is he going to sing again? What's he doing?
600
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,080
I'd love to see Bill sing another record.
601
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,480
There's millions of people that would love to hear
602
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,200
Bill Withers again.
603
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,400
If he wants to do it, fine.
604
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,320
If he don't want to, I respect that too,
605
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,160
because what he's been through, with the record business
606
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:32,600
and his life, to come through it, I may not want to sing again neither.
607
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:37,320
In some ways I think it's really cool he hasn't made a record since 1985.
608
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,200
If he feels like he's got nothing to say, or he wants to
609
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:45,680
focus on his family, you've got to define your priorities for yourself.
610
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,640
For me, it shows the artist that he is.
611
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,920
Not only about money, it's about the beauty of the song.
612
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:58,800
For him not to write a song or album for 23 years, from me to him,
613
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,240
I say, respect.
614
00:40:01,240 --> 00:40:04,440
It would be great to do some stuff with Bill again.
615
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,000
It would be, you know, I've always thought about that.
616
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,320
We haven't played together for 30 years.
617
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,800
In my career, that was probably the best times that I had.
618
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,840
No telling what might happen.
619
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,840
Bill might pop up in the next studio doing something.
620
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,000
He's always doing something, don't think Bill's not recording.
621
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,640
He's doing something, writing. It's in his blood.
622
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:32,360
Just like it's in mine to play this guitar. It's in his blood to write.
623
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,840
Something might pop up. I stay optimistic.
624
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,800
Until then, I'll keep on grooving.
625
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,600
The hardest thing to be in songwriting is to be simple
626
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,160
yet profound.
627
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:48,280
It's difficult, it's a very difficult artform.
628
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:53,400
Some people have it intrinsically, some have to work very hard,
629
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:58,640
but Bill seemed to understand intrinsically, instinctively,
630
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,080
how to do that.
631
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,120
Bill Withers could work a lot and make a whole lot of money
632
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:07,800
if he wanted to do that, but I don't think he's comfortable doing that.
633
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,960
People call me all the time, "Can I get Bill?"
634
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,680
I say, "Don't call me, cos I don't think he's going to do it."
635
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,720
DREAMY SYNTH MUSIC PLAYS
636
00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:20,000
SYNTH INSTRUMENTAL OBSCURES SINGING
637
00:41:31,240 --> 00:41:37,800
We are so remiss in over-valuing entertainers,
638
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,760
of which I am one, no problem.
639
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:47,880
And athletes, and undervaluing the people among us
640
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,640
who have less obvious gifts.
641
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,840
Let me ask you this question about your own legacy,
642
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:58,480
both personally, as a human being, and as a great artist,
643
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,560
what would you want your legacy to be?
644
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:19,600
I'm in New York because I have the pleasure of being honoured
645
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,560
by the Our Time Theatre Group, for kids who stutter.
646
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,640
It's a great thing, very close to my heart.
647
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:32,840
Having navigated through my youth and well into my adulthood
648
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,040
dealing with that issue,
649
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,760
it's fun to, you know,
650
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,520
see this thing grow.
651
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,520
APPLAUSE
652
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,200
I grew up in a place called Slab Fork, West Virginia,
653
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,560
I'm sure you've been there on many vacations...
654
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,360
LAUGHTER
655
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,160
Swam in our creek.
656
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:05,640
No disrespect to Slab Fork, it's a coal-mining camp.
657
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:10,440
And stuttering is rough for kids, but stuttering in Slab Fork, West Virginia -
658
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,720
let's just say you don't go to Slab Fork on the scholarship.
659
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:20,000
When you're a kid you want to be cool, and you want to be cool with the cool people.
660
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:27,920
And that doesn't always happen, so if you can learn to value the people who value you.
661
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,880
And I was very moved when I saw these kids
662
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,560
talking about how much they meant to each other.
663
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,520
I am honoured to be honoured, and let's hope
664
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:43,520
that each kid finds his own personal comfort zone,
665
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,800
where he can grow, and nurture whatever gifts that he might have
666
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,480
because if you take away the people who stutter
667
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:56,440
from the world, you're left with a whole bunch of chatty...
668
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:57,680
LAUGHTER
669
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,160
Fill in your own word.
670
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,440
The kids are so excited, I've been playing your music,
671
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:16,760
- and they cannot wait to meet you and talk with you.
- Yeah...
672
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:21,160
- You are a role model for me, and for them.
- Oh, thank you, bud. Let's go see 'em.
673
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,600
- Right here.
- All right...
- Come on in.
674
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:28,600
- OK...
- Ladies and gentlemen, may I introduce Mr Bill Withers!
675
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:37,440
Our Time kids, feel free to come up and introduce yourself.
676
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,120
Yeah.
677
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,880
Hi, my name is Victoria.
678
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,160
Hi, sweetie.
679
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,280
- Tanya.
- Hi, sweetie.
- Nice to meet you.
680
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,400
How you feeling, bud? My man.
681
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:51,480
What's your name?
682
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,560
- Er...Joe.
- All right, Joe.
683
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:59,240
You know, what I noticed when we were meeting is,
684
00:44:59,240 --> 00:45:01,400
it's almost like fingerprints.
685
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:06,000
We each have our own style of stutterings, which makes us unique.
686
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:10,320
I really identified with people who stop at their name.
687
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:14,960
Last night this friend of mine, who's a fairly well-known painter,
688
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,320
had this thing, so there were a lot of athletes
689
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,400
and people that I had seen in my life,
690
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,440
so I wanted to say hello to everybody and introduce myself.
691
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:29,320
And I went over to this one guy, and man, I got stuck.
692
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,600
And it brought back memories, because there was a woman with him
693
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,320
and she started to laugh.
694
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:41,040
It was fear. Fear of the perception of the listener.
695
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:43,800
This fear that makes us
696
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,800
apprehensive right at the point of trying to speak,
697
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,960
that stops us.
698
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,760
Well, one of the ways to deal with the fear is to approach people
699
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,880
with a prepared forgiveness.
700
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:01,160
We have to be more civil than most people that we will encounter.
701
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:05,640
Having had people not understand me a lot
702
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,760
maybe helped me wait a little beat to where I can extend
703
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,600
something that hasn't been given to me.
704
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,000
And I think that makes you a much bigger person.
705
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,160
We are thrilled to have you here,
706
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,400
and everything that you said just means so much to me personally,
707
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,360
and we'd love to sing for you today.
708
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,280
I would have been insulted if you would have not done.
709
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,720
LAUGHTER
710
00:46:27,720 --> 00:46:33,520
# Sometimes I feel like everyone's always ignoring me
711
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:43,560
# Sometimes I feel like everyone's always ridiculing me
712
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,480
# All I want in this whole world
713
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:54,480
# Is to be myself, and nobody else
714
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,360
# All I want in this whole world
715
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:02,800
# Is love, is love
716
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,960
# Is love
717
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,120
# All I want
718
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,520
# In this world
719
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,600
# Is love
720
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,160
# All I want
721
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,560
# In this world
722
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,360
# Is love
723
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,480
# All I want
724
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,360
# In this world
725
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,480
# Is love. #
726
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,960
I understood what you meant, you know.
727
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,840
There's an old Southern saying that says, you know,
728
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,560
it don't sound right if it ain't said right.
729
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:55,480
You know. So you guys are saying, your feeling's right, so just keep doing that.
730
00:47:55,480 --> 00:48:00,400
And er... it's really a big favour to me,
731
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,720
for you guys to remind me of some things that maybe I had forgotten.
732
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,240
And maybe to show me some things that I didn't know.
733
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,960
So you guys are...are cool.
734
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,160
APPLAUSE AND WHOOPING
735
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,680
And next time I see you I probably won't be this nice.
736
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,600
LAUGHTER
737
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,320
We have to make allowances for each other!
738
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:59,520
Thoreau I think said the mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation.
739
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,880
I would like to know how it feels for my desperation to get louder.
740
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:14,160
Yes, Raul Midon, please.
741
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,480
- 'Hello.'
- Hello, Raul.
- 'Yes.'
742
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,440
- It's Bill Withers. How you doing, bud?
- 'Oh, good.'
743
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,000
I was hoping that at some point or another, you know,
744
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,040
that you would maybe have just a little time
745
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,760
so we could just mess around, you know?
746
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,720
Just you and me, you know, we could plonk around,
747
00:49:33,720 --> 00:49:37,400
- I'll even break out my old Linn drum machine...
- Raul LAUGHS
748
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,280
- ..make some noise, you know what I mean?
- 'I don't know what to say.
749
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,800
'I'm just so happy that you're interested
750
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,560
'and, man, I'd love to put our heads together.'
751
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:50,160
- I'd like to try something out on you, Raul.
- 'OK.'
752
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:55,720
Because I've always wanted to write something in Spanish.
753
00:49:55,720 --> 00:49:59,880
I had a friend, a Cuban friend. And we worked together
754
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:03,520
and we laughed all the time, and it was just great.
755
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:07,880
- And I really miss him, you know?
- 'Yeah.'
756
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:13,600
What I was thinking, to start off, "Mi amigo Cubano, hola, como esta?
757
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:19,200
"Que paso, mi hermano", and I don't know whether you would say "tu"
758
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:24,480
or "usted" there, but one or the other. I'll just say "tu y yo no mas hablar."
759
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,840
'Yeah, "tu", definitely, because you're good friends.'
760
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,840
Now your background is what, Raul?
761
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,200
'My background is my mother was African-American
762
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,960
'and my father is Argentinian.
763
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:42,720
'When I lived in Miami, I got very deeply involved in Cuban music,
764
00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:46,560
'the music of guaguanco. In guaguanco, everything goes together
765
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,400
'so there's the clave, right?' Raul TAPS A RHYTHM
766
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:54,800
- OK.
- 'And then it goes boom boom boom boom, boom boom boom boom,
767
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,720
'boom boom boom boom, you know?
768
00:50:56,720 --> 00:51:00,560
'As you're doing all that, you sing, and you keep all that going.
769
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:04,440
'# Ae, ae, ae la chambelona
770
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:08,000
'# Ae, ae, ae la chambelona
771
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:13,080
RAUL SINGS AT PACE IN SPANISH
772
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:17,880
- You know what I'm saying?'
- Yeah, Raul. Yeah, man,
773
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,680
We're going to use all that stuff you know, Raul.
774
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:26,120
That's about all the preview I would like to do on that.
775
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,240
Let's just walk in with a blank sheet of paper
776
00:51:28,240 --> 00:51:30,520
and see what we can mark on it.
777
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,560
- 'Sounds good to me.'
- Yeah.
778
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,400
# Sometimes a song is funky
779
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,480
# Cos you feel that way
780
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:45,720
# A song might be easy and melancholy on another day
781
00:51:45,720 --> 00:51:48,880
# Sometimes a song gets mean and evil
782
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,480
# Cos it ain't going right
783
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,720
# Sometimes a song just might get nervous
784
00:51:54,720 --> 00:51:56,720
# Cos you might be uptight. #
785
00:51:56,720 --> 00:51:59,840
I don't even know what chords he has for it, you know,
786
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:04,040
so it's all going to be kind of a question of openness.
787
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:08,920
I'm going to bring what I have to the table and hopefully, you know,
788
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,560
come up with something. I mean, I just felt very honoured.
789
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,280
Dad?
790
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,160
# Sometimes a song is tender, sometimes a song is sad. #
791
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,080
Raul! Hey, bud.
792
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,280
# Maybe that evening that you wrote the song
793
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,160
# That's all the feeling you had. #
794
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,520
How you doing, Raul? Let's walk to the studio.
795
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,520
# Sometimes a song just feels real good
796
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,280
# And lays right there in the groove. #
797
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:35,000
- Feels like a studio.
- Yeah?
798
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:41,080
I'm going to be largely dependent on you because I have no skills, Raul.
799
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,960
- See, you're the virtuoso.
- I'm...
- No, I'm serious.
800
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,520
I've got this stuff in here, I can't play any of this stuff.
801
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,880
I learned, do you know what,
802
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,440
instead of putting myself in a situation where my blindness
803
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:58,920
makes me inferior, I'm going to create a situation where
804
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,640
I can put my strengths out there.
805
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:06,280
I think that when you're disabled in any way or when you have some...
806
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,920
I think you have to figure out how you learn.
807
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,680
- But you know what, Raul, you use the word disabled.
- Right.
808
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:19,040
You are enabled in other areas that the average person doesn't have.
809
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,480
I was a stutterer until I was 28.
810
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,760
I used to avoid the phone and, you know,
811
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,480
just anywhere where you had to talk.
812
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:33,440
And people would get up in your face and say "Spit it out, spit it out!"
813
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:37,240
As if you had a choice in the matter, you know what I mean?
814
00:53:37,240 --> 00:53:39,840
As if you got in that line and said,
815
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:43,840
"Well, I think I'm going to get in", you know, when you're getting ready
816
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,640
to be born, you know, like, "I think I'll get in the stuttering line."
817
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:52,800
And the thing is, what do you do after you find out you're here?
818
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:57,400
So then, you know, there was a phrase that I kept batting around,
819
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:01,080
"In my mind's eye, I can see the world from here."
820
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,880
- Right. Wow.
- How's that?
821
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:07,520
- I love it.
- You want to play with that later.
- Yes.
822
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:11,400
- Why don't you write it down so you don't forget it.
- I'm writing it down.
823
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:15,120
I love it, and it could be something about being clear.
824
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:19,840
- Yeah, OK, write down "clear". "I can see the world from here."
- Yeah.
825
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,960
- Because it's...
- "And sometimes I..."
826
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,680
Because clarity, in the mind's eye, is absolute.
827
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,720
- It can be absolute.
- OK. OK, now let's begin another line.
828
00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:37,880
- "I can hear the dream, my dream, so clear."
- Yeah.
829
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,680
"Just an idea, just an idea."
830
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,760
- OK.
- That's good, Raul. That's good.
831
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,680
"In my mind's eye, I can see the world from here.
832
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,400
"And sometimes I can hear my dreams so clear."
833
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,280
Get down, Raul, come on, brother.
834
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,880
Throw something in the pot. There you go.
835
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,160
Because people always ask me about dreams.
836
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,520
"How do you dream if you can see?" Well, I hear in my dreams, don't you?
837
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,600
- Yeah.
- You know what I mean?
838
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,600
It's not about seeing, it's about being in your dream.
839
00:55:20,240 --> 00:55:23,200
I don't know what would motivate someone at the point
840
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,600
in their life that he's in, with the break that he's taken.
841
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,800
But I do know that he has no problem throwing down
842
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,800
when he feels like throwing down.
843
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,000
When he wants to do something, I mean, he's just obsessed,
844
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,840
he's all in, up at two o'clock in the morning, not eating,
845
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,440
not sleeping, and that's exhausting.
846
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,480
# Mi amigo Cubano. #
847
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,840
No, I'm looking for the count-in.
848
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:54,680
# Hola, como esta?
849
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:58,440
# Mi amigo Cubano
850
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,160
# Que paso, mi hermano? #
851
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,400
- Yeah.
- Something like that.
852
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,600
# Mi amigo Cubano... #
853
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,680
There you go, Raul, that's what I'm talking about.
854
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,400
That was pretty cool, actually.
855
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:37,000
You know, you know, it all gets back to that thing.
856
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,200
If you start sweet then you got somewhere to go.
857
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,760
Let me go to 41 here and see what's happening, Raul.
858
00:56:44,240 --> 00:56:46,600
Bear with me here, one more time, OK?
859
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:50,040
Listen to this and then I'll make my next edit, OK?
860
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:56,600
- # Hola, como esta? #
- I think Bill is always thinking of songs.
861
00:56:56,600 --> 00:57:00,600
He has songs that he's created over the last 10,
862
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:05,720
15 years that are on tape.
863
00:57:05,720 --> 00:57:08,200
He put a lot into building that studio.
864
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:12,160
I think in his imagination, he felt, I'm going to do some music.
865
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,800
Whether or not he was actually going to put it out there,
866
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,160
that's another story.
867
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,000
Background - # Amigo cubano!
868
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:21,720
# Ba-do be-da-boo-dee... #
869
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:25,080
Selfishly, it would be fantastic, fantastic,
870
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,640
if he would get a record together
871
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:32,400
and it'd be new music and all that kind of stuff.
872
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:36,960
It'd be fun, but realistically, I'm not sure that he wants that.
873
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:42,400
He just hasn't wanted to get back into the music business.
874
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,800
# Que paso, mi hermano. #
875
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:49,240
RAUL IMITATES A TRUMPET
876
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,680
I'm going to go to the Carnival here.
877
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:56,320
# Mi amigo Cubano. #
878
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,400
There it is, there.
879
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,400
Yeah, there it is, there it is.
880
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,840
# Mi amigo Cubano
881
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,920
It's got that hump with it.
882
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,080
# Que paso, mi hermano? #
883
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:20,200
'I might just go in this frenzy, you know,
884
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:24,480
'just become obsessed with it every day.
885
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,440
'All you hear is just noise and me. You know what I mean?
886
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,520
'I would like that.'
887
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:44,080
BILL SINGS SCAT
888
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,400
Let's figure it out. # Waay-oh... #
889
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,080
# There's just so much about you
890
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:58,240
# That I li-I-ike
891
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:06,360
# And it's been so good to kno-o-ow
892
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:15,800
# How you've always been there for me
893
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:21,840
# When I needed a friend
894
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,800
# And oh, by the way
895
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:37,000
# Any time, any time
896
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,840
# Any time of the night or day
897
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:52,160
# I will be ju-u-ust
898
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,480
# A telephone call away. #
899
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,880
Come on, Kori, sing that bridge.
900
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:06,720
# Say if you need me
901
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:10,920
# I'll always be
902
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:16,440
# Just a telephone call
903
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:20,920
# A-wa-a-ay. #
904
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:26,600
- Go ahead, sing it.
- # And oh, by the way
905
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:30,560
# I just want to say
906
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:34,240
# Any time, any ti-ime
907
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:39,440
# Any time of the night or day
908
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:43,800
# I will be ju-u-u-ust
909
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:50,840
# A telephone call away. #
910
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,240
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
- Haha, let's get out of here.
911
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:57,680
That sounded really nice.
912
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:02,040
- But Kori, girl, we can work that tune.
- We can.
- We can do that song.
913
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:04,760
Yeah.
914
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:09,200
'As far as music goes, I think my dad is a pretty honest critic,
915
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:10,720
'and I really had to toughen up
916
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,760
'and realise that there was a difference between someone
917
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,600
'criticising you in a way that's saying you're untalented
918
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:18,520
'and someone being a coach, you know,
919
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,760
'someone saying, "Yeah, that wasn't a strike."'
920
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:25,560
- You ain't no joke, sugar.
- No.
921
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:28,520
That was so great to sing in that room.
922
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:30,760
Yeah. You getting a little grease on you,
923
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,160
that's what I'm talking about, you understand?
924
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:36,200
You know, getting a little grease on you, that is, you know,
925
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:39,200
you bringing the stuff, Kori.
926
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,320
Let's hit this sucker here.
927
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:50,280
Yeah.
928
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:54,800
I knew there are ways that my father is gifted,
929
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:56,720
and that I'm different than that,
930
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,360
and that I'm going to have to find my own process
931
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:00,600
and sort of my own way,
932
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,400
and for me I just knew that I wanted to get better.
933
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:08,960
- You just be comfortable and we'll make all this work.
- OK.
- Yeah.
934
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,080
- Er...
- I'm going to lift this just slightly.
935
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,960
Do what you want to with it. You want it closer, further away?
936
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:15,080
No, that's good.
937
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,240
This is a... This is called Blue Blues.
938
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:34,160
# I've moved on
939
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:36,880
# From you
940
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:39,800
# So I say
941
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:43,040
# So it seemed
942
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:47,240
# You are gone
943
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,560
# Far away
944
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,760
# I let you go
945
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:54,880
# I set you free
946
01:02:56,200 --> 01:03:04,080
# Still I swim in a sea
947
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:07,120
# Of you
948
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:19,720
# My blue... #
949
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:26,120
'My biggest fear, worst nightmare, was that
950
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:29,800
'I would be a disappointment to him, that I would show him what I had
951
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:31,520
'and he would be disappointed,
952
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,840
'because I knew he always was really eager'
953
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:35,920
to work with me, and I was always just like,
954
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,840
"Why? You're Bill Withers. Why would you ever want to do that?"
955
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:40,960
Like, why would you ever want to do that?
956
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:45,120
And I just could never see how he and I could sit in a room as equals and do anything together.
957
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:46,720
# I give up
958
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:49,440
# I give in
959
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,360
# I can't hide away
960
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:56,840
# This love I'm in
961
01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:00,960
# Will never have me
962
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:06,680
# Will only leave me
963
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:13,600
# Deep in the sea of my blue, blue blues. #
964
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,480
- HE SOBS
- Oh, that's great.
- Oh, I'm sorry.
965
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,480
SHE LAUGHS
966
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:47,120
I'm just, erm... You know, I'm just glad to see you.
967
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,000
HE SNIFFS
968
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:52,360
Er...
969
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,000
HE SOBS
970
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,720
- You know what I mean.
- Yeah.
971
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:04,000
Let's hear that. Let's hear that.
972
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,120
RECORDING PLAYS
973
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,880
We're all accidents at birth, you know?
974
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,920
We don't get to choose, you know, what we look like,
975
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:20,120
we don't get to choose how gifted we're going to be,
976
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,240
how tall, how strong,
977
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,680
we don't get to choose anything about what we're going to be.
978
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,760
One day, somebody says, "You ARE."
979
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:34,400
At some point or another, we have a choice...
980
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,560
..if we're sane enough by that point,
981
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,880
as to how much we're going to apply ourselves,
982
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:48,800
and a lot of that is influenced by the people who nurture us.
983
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,480
'I already did what I did.'
984
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:06,000
You know, I'm not that little boy or that young guy any more
985
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,160
that hasn't had any validation.
986
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:28,520
CHEERING
987
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:45,640
# Grandma's hand
988
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:49,000
# Clapped in church on Sunday morning
989
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,160
# Grandma's hand
990
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:53,560
# Played a tambourine so well
991
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,160
# Grandma's hand
992
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:59,240
# Issued out a warning
993
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:02,400
# Billy, don't you run so fast
994
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,160
# Might fall on a piece of glass
995
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,800
# Might be snakes there in that grass
996
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:09,440
# Grandma's hand
997
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:48,800
# And you know that Grandma's hands
998
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:52,440
# Soothed a local unwed mother
999
01:08:52,440 --> 01:08:54,760
# Grandma's hand
1000
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:58,320
# It aches some times and swells
1001
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:00,480
# Grandma's hands
1002
01:09:00,480 --> 01:09:02,160
# Lift her face and tell her
1003
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:05,960
# Baby, Grandma, understand
1004
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:08,040
# That your really love that man
1005
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:09,840
# Even though he ain't no good
1006
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:13,080
# Grandma's hand... #
1007
01:09:14,480 --> 01:09:15,960
Come on, play it, man.
1008
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:21,440
# A man we passed
1009
01:10:21,440 --> 01:10:24,800
# Just tried to stare me down
1010
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:30,040
# And when I looked at you
1011
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:34,240
# You looked at the ground... #
1012
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,720
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