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the state police are the temple my name
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is brackish penis I'm actually trying to
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help a friend right now and I need some
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information their children are on their
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way home from a camping trip with their
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hand they just called my friends out the
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straps hanging at the answer is driving
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erratically different the answers been
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picking up the cell phone right now
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I'm in the car they think is having a
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medical emergency she cuz she called
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them that she couldn't talk anymore and
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she's got five kids in the car the
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father in the husband or the father and
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the brother here at the station
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if y'all please now on emergency what is
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road nine manatee epic on it okay okay
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there any injuries I really don't know
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hold on let me check it out hold on
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thank you - um honestly hold on I really
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don't know on the other are there's like
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little kids where the kids not moving
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there's yeah there's a whole bunch of
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kids honestly the car smashed okay
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she listen perfect wife as standing
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mother hard worker reliable person
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trustworthy I would marry again tomorrow
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by she's awesome she's the best
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she drives away I watched this like
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numerous times over and over again and
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she was fine that's what's frustrating
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I'm very big into mystery shows I I live
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for watching those and even before this
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that's all I would watch and it's just
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ironic to me that I feel like I'm on one
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of them I feel like I'm walking around
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and there's going to be like this story
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is going to come out I feel like
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someone's gonna say ten years later it
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proves what happened there's so much
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more to the story it was a horrific
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scene on the Taconic Parkway near route
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117 this afternoon this burned-out shell
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was all that remained of a minivan
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after the head-on crash which left eight
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people dead Diane Schuler her daughter
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and three nieces three Westchester men
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in the SUV were killed evidence leads us
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to believe that a vehicle was traveling
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the wrong way southbound in the
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northbound lanes of traffic several
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people who were ejected most of the
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children
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we were able to save one young more than
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one family was destroyed tonight after a
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horrible crash on the Taconic Parkway
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the lone survivor a five-year-old boy
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clinging to life here tonight at the
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Westchester Medical Center I first got
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the phone call I didn't know what
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happened
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I just want updated Hospital then I
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found out there better than a car
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accident and you get all warm and you
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got all upset on the phone and he handed
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me the phone and at that point it was
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Brian died and everybody else was a lot
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and then I went to papa's house and told
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them that ronnie was dead and then I got
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the phone call that it wasn't at Brian's
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survived and then Jimmy said it's bad
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stage I everyone's calling I don't know
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how much of that day no just taking care
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of Brian that's what I remember
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my sister was a phenomenal mother and
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and friend and all of us are grateful
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for the love and care that she showered
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upon our entire family especially all of
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our children what we asked for all of
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you going forward is that you keep my
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girls my sister and my niece and all of
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us in your daily prayers there's a
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miracle child in all of this how we're
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doing after you Brian who's getting
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better and stronger by the day and he'll
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be loved by more people than he will
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ever understand love your children
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cherish your children kiss your children
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don't ever forget
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an autopsy was performed by the
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Westchester County Medal because that
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medical examiner's office on the body of
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Diane Schuler the operator of the 2003
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Ford man who was responsible for this
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crash the toxicology from that autopsy
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shows that Diane Schuler had a blood
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alcohol content of 0.19% the legal limit
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for intoxication in New York State is
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point zero eight percent toxicology also
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reveals that Diane Schuler had a high
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level of THC THC is the active
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ingredient contained in marijuana the
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wait is what's very important in
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calculating the number of drinks and
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with that level of alcohol it's
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approximately ten drinks are still in
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her at this time
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all right um we want to speak to you
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about the events that occurred and I'll
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tell you quite candidly that I didn't
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see any real benefit except my client
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and wants to talk about his wife she was
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not an alcoholic she rarely had a drink
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she got in the van with the children and
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what should have taken a 35-minute drive
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took almost four hours listen to this I
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go to bed every night knowing my heart
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is clear she did not drink she's not an
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alcoholic
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listen to all that she is not an
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alcoholic and my heart is rustic every
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night when I go to bed something
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medically had those happen my name my
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Jay Schuler married I'm married to
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Danny's brother Jimmy Schuler Diane was
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my sister-in-law family was the most
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important thing to her to have the
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cousins all playing together there is no
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way she would ever jeopardize the
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children that's the ballgame just really
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honest it
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look at the things they wrote about a
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loser skank killer and that nice I'll
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shut the F up and admit that him and his
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wife were alkies and potheads people
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you'll see in hell
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that's what Bryan's gonna say that his
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mother was a murderer and people want to
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know why I keep on fighting you go from
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the horrific tragedy to now people
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hating you hating you people what
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they're saying on the computer people
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with the saying on the news you know and
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I'm like you don't know us that's not
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what happened
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and any sympathy turned to hate I need
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Brian to hold his head up high that his
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mommy was a great mom
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she wasn't drunk she would never do that
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to never never ever she'd never hurt her
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kids or Lauren Jackie's something
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happened
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we'll do every test that experts
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recommend to us you know we'll go to
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every avenues here that can be explored
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but what if it doesn't turn up something
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you want yeah I I think about that
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sometimes but it's gonna work out and if
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it doesn't I I don't even go down that
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path because I know she wouldn't let me
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fight this for nothing
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ah the barber law fractured afternoon
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you know weather came to me originally
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to go public that was from day one they
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didn't just pick my name out of a hat
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they wanted to go public and I still
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think it was the right thing to do it
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would have never gotten to where it is
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today you wouldn't be involved if it
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wasn't something but look right right
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this has been a very painful emotionally
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painful experience this case because
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I've taken a lot of grief I've taken
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work weeks on this case and some of them
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really but a few Cohen Jessica Hahn
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cases of the 70s and 80s and my
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friendship with certain celebrities this
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took more heat people actually come over
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to me how can you represent that drunk
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and that really bothers me because I
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truly believe in my heart of hearts that
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she's not an alcoholic nor drunk
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do I have an answer for that day no
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what is the thing that you want to
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happen most I want to know what happened
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to my wife I want an autopsy done a
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correct autopsy done I want to know if
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she had a shoka nut because what they're
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saying is not true no I wouldn't be
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doing this
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I don't know quiet person in a private
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person but uh I just want to find out
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what happened so when my son gets older
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he knows what happened to his mom I'm
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gonna go until the end until I find out
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what really happened the truth whether
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it's good or bad Dobby following me
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that I know something medically happened
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to my wife
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the Diane talked to you about her mother
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not much was it a subject could we talk
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about what would she say better then she
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left when Diane was young gently
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bringing it up was it something that she
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just kind of deal with it seemed like a
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baller huh but she wouldn't talk about
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it and I never pushed pushed oh she was
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the girl of the house and everyone said
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that Diane did everything did you ever
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meet her mother no someone said she was
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at the funeral at the week but um I
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never met her
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I have only things I knew that she
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didn't have contact with her do why did
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you know why she left the father.the I
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don't know why she left the dead no I
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really don't Diane wasn't like that like
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she didn't go like pity me feel sorry
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for me but I would imagine that had a
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big impact on her that she was gonna be
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totally there for her kids and never
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leave them and that's why we find it so
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ironic can you give a more detailed
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description what happened before she
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went off on the trip what you what you
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had to eat together what combination
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yeah come to know you okay Anna
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come down right from the moment you woke
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up I woke up at 6 o'clock going down to
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my boat to clean it out do what I got to
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do came back about 4 to 7 7 o'clock or
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woke her up saying we have to start
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cleaning the camper so you can start
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getting home before traffic she woke up
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started packing the bag slowly started
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waking the kids up slowly start getting
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the kids dressed we unloaded the camper
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all the bags outside the camper and I
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walk him to the car and we load them up
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we had a cup of coffee two cups of
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coffee and then we left
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do you remember your last words yeah I
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kissed everyone go buy a my wife thank
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you
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you
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you
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it's a great weekend swimming I can
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campfire cooking marshmallows game room
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with the kids the playground was an
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accident we can catch any fish catch you
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later
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there's largemouth bass there's small
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mouse there's pickles
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sunny Scrappy's hi there how are you say
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when they come up here they forget that
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the world exists
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it does give you the opportunity to take
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a breath
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it's crazy today just the pressures of
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everyday life you know mom's working
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dad's working the kids are busy doing
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activities at school
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I don't think families have enough time
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to spend with each other and I think
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this is probably one of the places that
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they can come and just enjoy it
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there's a perfect relaxation right out
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there
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well that morning we got up we had
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breakfast we made coffee we cleaned up
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the camper take a bite all the kids and
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she hopped in her car I opted mine we
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went on our way
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he received a phone call at 9:00 a.m.
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from Emma Hans's oldest daughter who
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said everything was good they had a
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great time they were looking forward to
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coming home
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Danny was parked up in front and he had
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the dog and he had the truck and she was
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right behind him in the van and the kids
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were just yelling they were all strapped
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in their seats and yelling what a good
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time they had because they were up
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visiting with that you know Diane and so
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forth so I kind of leaned and I said oh
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I hear you yell and I said you have a
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good time and they go yeah we're coming
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back but you know they were so excited
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about coming back and it was about the
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last thing they said I said to Diane
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have a safe trip home
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she certainly seem sober to me
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you
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you
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we left the campground we left together
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I followed her out then we got on the
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Parkway and I went home with my dog and
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the laundry and she stopped off at the
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stores get guys to get kids breakfast I
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just went home
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the morning they left at Sunday he
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stated that they left approximately at
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the same time Diane left with all the
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kids in the minivan and he left with a
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dog and he stated that Diane was
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stopping at a McDonald's not far from
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the campground the hands family agreed
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that it was pre-planned that he would
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take the pickup truck with the dog so
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you can't put the kids in the back of a
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pickup truck and they borrowed the
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minivan from the answers for the very
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purpose of transporting all the children
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investigators from the Liberty Station
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were able to obtain a video from the
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McDonald's which was time-stamped
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show Diane Schuler and two McDonald's
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with the children we additionally
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interviewed the McDonald's employee who
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served her he said that he did remember
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her and did not remember her being
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intoxicated or smelling of alcohol the
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children were playing in the playground
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they seemed to be having a good time
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through this video we saw no obvious
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signs of intoxication
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there's the Sunoco video where you see
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her at the pump getting out of car and
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then she goes in at the gas station
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then she goes in and apparently asked
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for some sort of pain meds which they
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don't have
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she walked in spoke to the clerk we
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don't know what we said there's no audio
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and walked out with nothing again there
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was no obvious signs of intoxication at
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this time
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door oh no we didn't I
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I can what is it again I can learn you
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know avoiding you know stuff really good
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stuff
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what's in that were bride sinks oh yeah
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yeah
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we're now more a human face a human
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faces mom no I see it can we find a deer
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before possum ate hotdogs what is this
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do PR i--'s brice makes them strong
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right
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this is the picture that they took at
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the campsite on Saturday it's really
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hard to look at but you can see how much
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fun they have him cuz Bryan being like
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as shy as he is Aaron with a ball and
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Emma Allie and Kate and that would be
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typical day in like alright everyone on
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a rock pose Diane like when she asked me
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to be a godmother
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Aaron I like I'm like oh my god should
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really just like me you know I was like
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so thrilled that was on Aaron's birthday
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and Diane would always be like all right
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godmother come sit open presents
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she got sunglasses and it was too cute
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it was fun it's just not the same
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you
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you
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let me mourn and Jackie I think their
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grief is just so bad - Jackie kids with
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a job that's what she did it listening
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to her schedule of soccer dance this
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that times three running all around till
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we go to nothing
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I can't imagine anyone in her family
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things Dianne was drunk as a parent like
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you had the tiny bit of doubt a human
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eye would have a tiny bit of doubt
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human but when Jackie reflects back I
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don't want to speak for them but her and
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Diana like best friends but are they
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choosing to speak out about it
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No
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this is a day he's coming up to my house
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and this is 7:15 and lingos well going
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to Yorktown Heights today my sister's
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house what surprise will it be for
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dinner
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laughs out loud that's a day he died
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that morning I remember I remember my
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brother's voice on that phone saying to
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me you go I said okay we're going to
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just have spaghetti meeples I had the
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table set and I remember him saying okay
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it's all right you know I'll be there
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it's sort of there's no closure at that
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point because you don't get to say
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goodbye
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you know I mean like I know that he
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knows who you are loved him you know we
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love my brother wheel up and then they
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know that but we didn't get to tell them
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you know like we didn't get to have that
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closure with them and that that bothers
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me and then it also like I said it
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bothered me because they never made it
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home they should have made it home that
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day and they didn't it was a shock it
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was really a shock I mean this
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what if phone call came in and I'm not
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that forward he was healthy he was just
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he retired and he was really just got to
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enjoying himself I feel his life was cut
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short
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he was really I think he a lot more Life
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to Live
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Brian's my my main priority right now
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done being a single parent it's hard
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trying to do the right thing for him
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give him a normal life as we possibly
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can definitely changed I do security
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work I work nights so I'm up at 6:00 my
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bed by 1:00 what's the hardest part of
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being a single parent food shopping
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cooking laundry taking care of the house
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make sure Brian's schoolwork ain't going
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to work
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oh you're going all day and all night
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this is every little time for yourself
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just Brian ask a lot of that is mom you
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talk a lot about it mom mommy took me
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here
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mommy blow me that likes to play hero
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mommy all the time
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was Brian get any kind of special
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support or counseling no yeah
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the school is excellent he's doing
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really good in school I know everything
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is somewhat back to normal if let's talk
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about he will know I have tried to poke
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and prod and things I'm curious and he
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said mommy's head hurt she couldn't say
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I said up Brian I said your mom and Jay
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I told you her head hurt she couldn't
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say and he said I said oh and that's
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when the crash happened and he said and
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I flew out of the car like Superman
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since he came home from rehab and I
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thought of spending my days with him the
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stories never changed never ever change
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mommy's had hurt she couldn't say
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Diane called and said we're running a
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little late because the girls had play
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practice and we had a great time
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everything's great all laughing kidding
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around and Diane said all right they
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talked about the play the play get me
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two tickets
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I think Erin will sit on my lap and then
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they said okay we'll see you soon
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we were traveling back on the Thruway
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heading south
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we were driving in the center lane and
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the vehicle came up rather quickly in
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the right lane and moved into the center
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lane moved back into the right lane and
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continued to make a series of movements
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changing lanes rather aggressively and
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we both looked at we saw a woman
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grasping on to the steering wheel
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appearing to concentrate as she was
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driving and the last movement it made it
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made from the right lane and it kind of
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cut off a car in the middle lane in the
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car the truck actually swerved that a
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way to avoid it but each time it made
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the movement it did it the vehicle was
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kind of it was very precisely it would
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move into the lane it would move out of
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the lane and it was done with some
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degree of precision
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and there came a point in time where we
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actually could see children's heads kind
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of swaying back and forth as the vehicle
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moved
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coming down through way knowing to the
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rest area
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I thought we passed her she pulled out
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and got right behind us and she was I
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mean so close to me I could see her
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headlights and then the next thing you
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know you started here in the horn
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beeping
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it made me nervous in fact I braced
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myself for an accident because I thought
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she was so close behind us but the way
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she was driving I thought she was you
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know just some sort of nut coming behind
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me and then when she tried to pass me
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again on a shoulder that's when I really
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thought it and then she just pulled
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right back in behind me
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the honking happened as we were getting
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off the exit for the Thruway into the
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rest area we stayed straight which went
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into the call lane and she veered off
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into the truck area and I did see her
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open the door get out of the car and
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possibly she was going to get sick to
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her stomach what made you think that she
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was kind of bent over a little my
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husband and I then walked into the rest
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area and she wasn't there when we came
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out again
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it was 12:30 p.m. you have to do over
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what would you do I would have
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confronted her you know and then we
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probably would have seen those kids in a
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car and you probably probably would have
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seen that there was you know shoot there
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was something wrong
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inflation okay keep this bought one yeah
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all right I can't really remember point
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where Diane wasn't a part of my life
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I remember Girl Scouts with her soccer
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teams together kindergarten first grade
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like I don't remember her just not being
527
00:33:36,029 --> 00:33:41,250
male you hang out with her at school and
528
00:33:39,450 --> 00:33:43,080
you had the best time ever because she
529
00:33:41,250 --> 00:33:44,400
was a class clown and then you wanted to
530
00:33:43,079 --> 00:33:46,740
hurt her to come to your house because
531
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:50,160
she was always fun she always made you
532
00:33:46,740 --> 00:33:52,589
laugh I moved to Florrick and fourth
533
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:56,070
grade that's when I got involved with
534
00:33:52,589 --> 00:33:57,959
the whole group of girls we would
535
00:33:56,069 --> 00:33:59,879
definitely I want to see crazy we
536
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:02,730
weren't but we were we were loud
537
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:06,020
we were fun you know we liked the
538
00:34:02,730 --> 00:34:08,250
attention I was most spirited Diane got
539
00:34:06,019 --> 00:34:09,719
latticed in our class I mean seeing a
540
00:34:08,250 --> 00:34:11,429
superlative she got like seven of them
541
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,619
you know she was loudest most fun to be
542
00:34:11,429 --> 00:34:15,510
around place class clown you know
543
00:34:13,619 --> 00:34:17,460
actually something that I didn't like to
544
00:34:15,510 --> 00:34:19,230
be in the spotlight she was in the
545
00:34:17,460 --> 00:34:23,490
spotlight just because that was just
546
00:34:19,230 --> 00:34:25,559
such a big personality Diane always had
547
00:34:23,489 --> 00:34:27,388
a good head on her shoulders and you
548
00:34:25,559 --> 00:34:29,279
know was very responsible from an early
549
00:34:27,389 --> 00:34:31,500
age she lived with her father and her
550
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,929
brothers and you know she was like the
551
00:34:31,500 --> 00:34:36,210
woman of the house she had to clean the
552
00:34:33,929 --> 00:34:38,240
kitchen you know she had to do wash and
553
00:34:36,210 --> 00:34:41,909
you know somebody's got to take on that
554
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:45,029
momily role so to speak and you know she
555
00:34:41,909 --> 00:34:48,360
definitely did it well in high school
556
00:34:45,030 --> 00:34:51,060
Diane was heavy sometimes she struggled
557
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,620
to lose weight I guess it was right
558
00:34:51,059 --> 00:34:54,320
before my wedding is when she had lost
559
00:34:52,619 --> 00:34:56,699
the most weight ever I looked amazing
560
00:34:54,320 --> 00:35:00,019
and she had come to my wedding and
561
00:34:56,699 --> 00:35:03,089
that's actually where she had met Danny
562
00:35:00,019 --> 00:35:05,730
she really never did while we were
563
00:35:03,090 --> 00:35:07,769
younger and I think because she never
564
00:35:05,730 --> 00:35:09,210
really had that companionship growing up
565
00:35:07,769 --> 00:35:11,429
or you know I never had a boyfriend or
566
00:35:09,210 --> 00:35:13,559
anything so when she met Danny like you
567
00:35:11,429 --> 00:35:15,899
know she was gonna experience everything
568
00:35:13,559 --> 00:35:18,929
that you know we've all had a chance to
569
00:35:15,900 --> 00:35:21,269
experience that was her first love and I
570
00:35:18,929 --> 00:35:24,349
think she knew that you know it was
571
00:35:21,269 --> 00:35:24,349
gonna be the only love
572
00:35:26,230 --> 00:35:34,219
mr. Schouler swing c'mon sir
573
00:35:29,630 --> 00:35:37,930
yeah the state police stuff there was a
574
00:35:34,219 --> 00:35:41,039
bottle of Absolut Vodka in the van
575
00:35:37,929 --> 00:35:45,759
do you know where that came from it was
576
00:35:41,039 --> 00:35:50,889
explained all right on Daniel how to
577
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:52,600
explain the vodka we usually will keep
578
00:35:50,889 --> 00:35:57,519
it in our camper throughout the whole
579
00:35:52,599 --> 00:36:00,989
season one bottle why why you know your
580
00:35:57,519 --> 00:36:03,969
pina colada is usually by a camera miles
581
00:36:00,989 --> 00:36:08,019
what was the vodka bottle doing in a car
582
00:36:03,969 --> 00:36:10,119
my wife packed all the bags that day in
583
00:36:08,019 --> 00:36:13,239
the camper and leaves them by the door I
584
00:36:10,119 --> 00:36:15,639
carry him from the camper to the trucks
585
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:17,319
I'm very surprised that the vodka bottle
586
00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:21,190
was in there I had no idea
587
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:23,470
I don't know watches he give you does it
588
00:36:21,190 --> 00:36:26,440
give you pause to think that maybe just
589
00:36:23,469 --> 00:36:29,079
maybe she was a drinker and you didn't
590
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,369
know it I feel it for 13 years
591
00:36:29,079 --> 00:36:33,219
absolutely not
592
00:36:30,369 --> 00:36:35,230
Daniel do I appear here why keep on
593
00:36:33,219 --> 00:36:37,599
doing this the truth the truth will come
594
00:36:35,230 --> 00:36:40,510
out well Larry you have to understand
595
00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:42,730
Danny doesn't want the other families to
596
00:36:40,510 --> 00:36:45,160
think that a drunk driver killed their
597
00:36:42,730 --> 00:36:47,349
families that's why we are out to prove
598
00:36:45,159 --> 00:36:49,539
that you try to prove that she wasn't
599
00:36:47,349 --> 00:36:52,179
drunk I've gotten to a point I forget to
600
00:36:49,539 --> 00:36:54,550
Angela I pray for her like I pray for my
601
00:36:52,179 --> 00:36:57,460
father and my brother and those children
602
00:36:54,550 --> 00:37:01,060
and the family that's still alive I'm
603
00:36:57,460 --> 00:37:03,610
still working on come on even the lies
604
00:37:01,059 --> 00:37:05,230
about the bottle oh it's not all about
605
00:37:03,610 --> 00:37:06,880
allowing the wish good oh yeah we kept
606
00:37:05,230 --> 00:37:09,849
the bottle up at the camp we brought it
607
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:11,950
back and foot stories just kept changing
608
00:37:09,849 --> 00:37:15,549
they just kept changing and like I said
609
00:37:11,949 --> 00:37:18,250
if if if you just come forward and say
610
00:37:15,550 --> 00:37:20,289
I'm sorry she made a mistake you could
611
00:37:18,250 --> 00:37:22,539
accept that right but to have to keep
612
00:37:20,289 --> 00:37:24,820
lying and try to come up why what are
613
00:37:22,539 --> 00:37:27,460
you trying to cover up what happened I
614
00:37:24,820 --> 00:37:30,130
would say to him what what transpired
615
00:37:27,460 --> 00:37:31,900
between you and your wife right that
616
00:37:30,130 --> 00:37:34,660
pushed her right that pushed her and
617
00:37:31,900 --> 00:37:37,630
then I say to him you know what what's
618
00:37:34,659 --> 00:37:39,309
with the denial you denying this is
619
00:37:37,630 --> 00:37:42,070
enabling other people to do the same
620
00:37:39,309 --> 00:37:45,820
thing I mean the right thing to do is to
621
00:37:42,070 --> 00:37:49,740
admit you know my wife was drunk don't
622
00:37:45,820 --> 00:37:49,740
let this happen to your family
623
00:38:00,190 --> 00:38:03,190
go
624
00:38:19,630 --> 00:38:22,470
doctor
625
00:38:28,389 --> 00:38:33,250
dr. May 25th
626
00:38:43,929 --> 00:38:51,328
someone is gone it was a deep deep wish
627
00:38:47,858 --> 00:38:54,429
to find a way to remember them which in
628
00:38:51,329 --> 00:38:57,839
a way is the silver lining to the loss
629
00:38:54,429 --> 00:38:57,838
that people experience
630
00:39:05,349 --> 00:39:11,210
and forensic psychiatric autopsy what we
631
00:39:08,659 --> 00:39:14,598
do is attempt to piece together the
632
00:39:11,210 --> 00:39:18,909
state of mind and who the person was at
633
00:39:14,599 --> 00:39:18,910
the time of the events and question
634
00:39:19,179 --> 00:39:26,078
people are seeking to preserve hell
635
00:39:23,028 --> 00:39:28,880
memory at the same time they want to
636
00:39:26,079 --> 00:39:31,278
find out what actually happened because
637
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:35,630
it's it's such a tragedy and such a
638
00:39:31,278 --> 00:39:38,268
mystery and they and right now they are
639
00:39:35,630 --> 00:39:40,278
constructed the choices they have is to
640
00:39:38,268 --> 00:39:43,038
either accept however someone who was
641
00:39:40,278 --> 00:39:45,048
bad which he cannot because that she
642
00:39:43,039 --> 00:39:49,970
wasn't bad and their relationships work
643
00:39:45,048 --> 00:39:52,248
done oh to be able although focusing on
644
00:39:49,969 --> 00:39:54,038
some medical event through which there's
645
00:39:52,248 --> 00:39:56,659
no evidence an autopsy
646
00:39:54,039 --> 00:39:59,749
the problem is when someone is being
647
00:39:56,659 --> 00:40:02,298
demonized the tendency by that those who
648
00:39:59,748 --> 00:40:06,498
remember that person is to try to make
649
00:40:02,298 --> 00:40:10,210
them into a saint do you wanna show the
650
00:40:06,498 --> 00:40:13,509
nice photo album daddy major oh my god
651
00:40:10,210 --> 00:40:13,509
one shower
652
00:40:19,780 --> 00:40:23,760
this Brian first fishy cut
653
00:40:24,780 --> 00:40:36,000
that and they would pumpkin pickin the
654
00:40:29,980 --> 00:40:44,530
Halloween real good big brother
655
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:47,260
- buddy with the glasses
656
00:40:44,530 --> 00:40:47,769
good job try to see it try to see it a
657
00:40:47,260 --> 00:40:53,080
hold it
658
00:40:47,769 --> 00:40:57,509
alright look I said a good job look at
659
00:40:53,079 --> 00:41:01,299
that oh my god you're getting Elliott
660
00:40:57,510 --> 00:41:06,250
what you want to show the picture of
661
00:41:01,300 --> 00:41:08,970
your mommy Epstein hmm and then the one
662
00:41:06,250 --> 00:41:08,969
in mommy and daddy
663
00:41:14,420 --> 00:41:21,420
he was madly in love dur him and I said
664
00:41:18,028 --> 00:41:23,179
he met the right girl finally she was
665
00:41:21,420 --> 00:41:26,938
lovely
666
00:41:23,179 --> 00:41:31,938
she's so motherly you know I've been ice
667
00:41:26,938 --> 00:41:33,778
five my son Danny and she spoiled up
668
00:41:31,938 --> 00:41:36,598
she can't endure
669
00:41:33,778 --> 00:41:37,489
she called him loose she was the boss
670
00:41:36,599 --> 00:41:41,338
yeah yeah
671
00:41:37,489 --> 00:41:47,130
she made all decisions and Danny was
672
00:41:41,338 --> 00:41:50,159
like her oldest child you know and he he
673
00:41:47,130 --> 00:41:52,920
loved Diane that Diane like I said made
674
00:41:50,159 --> 00:41:59,868
all the decisions and he was like her
675
00:41:52,920 --> 00:42:03,659
oldest boy better yeah Diane she was a
676
00:41:59,869 --> 00:42:07,048
amazing woman she worked her way up to
677
00:42:03,659 --> 00:42:09,688
you with extremely smart woman her own
678
00:42:07,048 --> 00:42:13,259
offices where the boss she had her own
679
00:42:09,688 --> 00:42:16,048
secretary yeah they loved her she's got
680
00:42:13,259 --> 00:42:20,059
a lot of friends in a cape evasion
681
00:42:16,048 --> 00:42:20,059
a lot of pressures are evil
682
00:42:27,949 --> 00:42:34,308
she seemed to be very good at whatever
683
00:42:31,250 --> 00:42:38,150
she attempted I mean she was very good
684
00:42:34,309 --> 00:42:41,450
at her job she was a take-charge person
685
00:42:38,150 --> 00:42:43,099
too you know something came on and all
686
00:42:41,449 --> 00:42:45,318
this person's gonna have a baby
687
00:42:43,099 --> 00:42:47,298
Oh Artie okay you go out and get this
688
00:42:45,318 --> 00:42:49,730
and we'll go and do that and you get
689
00:42:47,298 --> 00:42:51,009
this and we'll get together and it's
690
00:42:49,730 --> 00:42:55,219
just the way she was
691
00:42:51,010 --> 00:42:57,319
everything was ironed and down to like
692
00:42:55,219 --> 00:42:59,750
the littlest thing like a panther on a
693
00:42:57,318 --> 00:43:01,159
shirt was Arion just was on I like I was
694
00:42:59,750 --> 00:43:02,619
like the kids clothes were on I'm like
695
00:43:01,159 --> 00:43:06,078
when do you do this
696
00:43:02,619 --> 00:43:09,619
she made me a book there's all little
697
00:43:06,079 --> 00:43:11,089
pictures up to children when she had put
698
00:43:09,619 --> 00:43:14,028
the kids to bed she'd work on it every
699
00:43:11,088 --> 00:43:20,808
night and then she was starting another
700
00:43:14,028 --> 00:43:24,469
one for me the end I said I yeah where'd
701
00:43:20,809 --> 00:43:26,960
he get time because by the time she
702
00:43:24,469 --> 00:43:30,528
would leave my house and get home was
703
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:33,528
seven o'clock in the evening but then
704
00:43:30,528 --> 00:43:37,068
she'd feed him dinner then she would
705
00:43:33,528 --> 00:43:40,338
bathe him then should we take Brian and
706
00:43:37,068 --> 00:43:42,949
read his book to him they put him in the
707
00:43:40,338 --> 00:43:47,000
bed inciude clutter would pick up lil
708
00:43:42,949 --> 00:43:50,779
Aaron and read her the book
709
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:53,719
how he hurried to bed and ditch found
710
00:43:50,780 --> 00:43:55,460
time to work on these little books and
711
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:58,250
then Danny would come home she's ever
712
00:43:55,460 --> 00:44:04,070
snapped to Danny but then she's back up
713
00:43:58,250 --> 00:44:07,340
again in the morning I really and sheet
714
00:44:04,070 --> 00:44:09,410
roll order laundry in the meantime no
715
00:44:07,340 --> 00:44:13,100
matter cardiac all night or what
716
00:44:09,409 --> 00:44:19,250
you know but so much be so organized you
717
00:44:13,099 --> 00:44:20,960
know she made it look easy and they
718
00:44:19,250 --> 00:44:23,719
worked after said schedules her and
719
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:25,789
Danny you know which you know could be
720
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:30,139
stressful but she didn't make it seem
721
00:44:25,789 --> 00:44:33,079
that way Brian and Erin my Erin started
722
00:44:30,139 --> 00:44:36,230
preschool together and we would see each
723
00:44:33,079 --> 00:44:38,480
other on a daily basis I was the second
724
00:44:36,230 --> 00:44:41,059
parent there every day and she was the
725
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,349
first and she came from Babylon and I
726
00:44:41,059 --> 00:44:47,000
live right around the block from the
727
00:44:42,349 --> 00:44:48,980
preschool she was not only on time the
728
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:51,050
kids were dressed impeccably there was
729
00:44:48,980 --> 00:44:52,610
never like a stain on their shirt with
730
00:44:51,050 --> 00:44:54,920
toothpaste on the corner of their mouth
731
00:44:52,610 --> 00:44:55,670
a hair out of place very on top of
732
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,849
things
733
00:44:55,670 --> 00:45:00,800
she chaperones for school trips she put
734
00:44:58,849 --> 00:45:03,829
herself on a list to donate things for
735
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:07,660
school parties and everything she did it
736
00:45:03,829 --> 00:45:10,069
all you know and she worked full-time so
737
00:45:07,659 --> 00:45:12,469
so do you think she was like the
738
00:45:10,070 --> 00:45:14,990
supermom issued that she never had I
739
00:45:12,469 --> 00:45:17,059
think so I think that drove her to be
740
00:45:14,989 --> 00:45:19,369
you know it definitely laid the
741
00:45:17,059 --> 00:45:22,549
groundwork for what type of a mother you
742
00:45:19,369 --> 00:45:25,730
know she was going today how do you as
743
00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:28,820
an investigator explained the toxicology
744
00:45:25,730 --> 00:45:31,449
report with high levels of marijuana in
745
00:45:28,820 --> 00:45:33,860
Diane's system how do you explain that I
746
00:45:31,449 --> 00:45:37,129
can't explain it but what I will tell
747
00:45:33,860 --> 00:45:39,230
you is what we are doing is I want to
748
00:45:37,130 --> 00:45:42,559
determine if those results are correct
749
00:45:39,230 --> 00:45:46,039
the Schuler family has been trying to
750
00:45:42,559 --> 00:45:48,559
raise the money among the family to pay
751
00:45:46,039 --> 00:45:50,779
for the additional tests that need to be
752
00:45:48,559 --> 00:45:53,360
done to try and clear Diane's name
753
00:45:50,780 --> 00:45:56,590
Daniel Schuler and the Schuler family
754
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:59,750
felt so convinced in in Diane's
755
00:45:56,590 --> 00:46:00,369
reputation and her background which is
756
00:45:59,750 --> 00:46:02,619
substantial
757
00:46:00,369 --> 00:46:04,809
so far by our investigation that they
758
00:46:02,619 --> 00:46:07,059
went out and they paid their good money
759
00:46:04,809 --> 00:46:09,369
for a private investigation for him to
760
00:46:07,059 --> 00:46:12,309
come in and look at this and take it
761
00:46:09,369 --> 00:46:14,920
where it leads it all I know is that
762
00:46:12,309 --> 00:46:18,069
when I got when this first happened and
763
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:19,960
we got dominic and Don Louis gave us Tom
764
00:46:18,068 --> 00:46:21,420
I'm like all right this guy is going to
765
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:24,369
save the day
766
00:46:21,420 --> 00:46:26,230
she's in save the day he's going to find
767
00:46:24,369 --> 00:46:28,690
out what happened to her he just totally
768
00:46:26,230 --> 00:46:30,509
was like you're right she wasn't drunk
769
00:46:28,690 --> 00:46:33,700
he's like it just doesn't make sense
770
00:46:30,509 --> 00:46:35,318
everyone who I spoke to and everything
771
00:46:33,699 --> 00:46:37,268
was about all right well we got to get
772
00:46:35,318 --> 00:46:38,949
this done I'm going I'm getting the
773
00:46:37,268 --> 00:46:42,489
samples I'm getting this I'm getting
774
00:46:38,949 --> 00:46:44,439
that and we're gonna need more money ten
775
00:46:42,489 --> 00:46:47,588
thousand dollars and thirty thousand
776
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:49,389
dollars we don't have this money you
777
00:46:47,588 --> 00:46:52,058
know we're taking it from here barn from
778
00:46:49,389 --> 00:46:53,828
Peter to pay Paul and Diane was the
779
00:46:52,059 --> 00:46:56,710
breadwinner but I convinced everyone
780
00:46:53,829 --> 00:47:00,400
foul Tom Tom's gonna do it and nothing
781
00:46:56,710 --> 00:47:01,259
was done nothing was done how do you do
782
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,579
that to people
783
00:47:01,259 --> 00:47:09,880
have you spoken to Tom husband at all
784
00:47:03,579 --> 00:47:14,730
yeah what happened there don't know that
785
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:14,730
is as soon as we paid him he disappeared
786
00:47:30,449 --> 00:47:36,058
what was Ruskin's job what was he hard
787
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:38,038
to do Ruskin was hired to go up there
788
00:47:36,059 --> 00:47:41,250
and start finding out things and collect
789
00:47:38,039 --> 00:47:44,640
information I used them on two prior
790
00:47:41,250 --> 00:47:47,159
cases and he done a very good job I
791
00:47:44,639 --> 00:47:51,480
don't know what happened here I picked
792
00:47:47,159 --> 00:47:54,179
up the newspapers every day and I was
793
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:56,338
you know with great chagrin where's he
794
00:47:54,179 --> 00:47:58,739
going I understand we put up we put our
795
00:47:56,338 --> 00:48:01,170
point out there now let's wait to see
796
00:47:58,739 --> 00:48:04,618
what happens there was every day
797
00:48:01,170 --> 00:48:07,318
something new in the paper hi just
798
00:48:04,619 --> 00:48:08,940
wanted Ruskin to come under control have
799
00:48:07,318 --> 00:48:10,969
you interviewed him yet we have been
800
00:48:08,940 --> 00:48:14,099
trying to set that up
801
00:48:10,969 --> 00:48:17,578
Icom hi how you doing I'm okay how you
802
00:48:14,099 --> 00:48:20,430
doing good just a little bit busy when I
803
00:48:17,579 --> 00:48:23,880
was speaking to my people my agent my
804
00:48:20,429 --> 00:48:25,588
attorney they said 20 25,000 otherwise
805
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,539
you know it's just not worth your time
806
00:48:25,588 --> 00:48:30,630
right it's just not even in the ballpark
807
00:48:27,539 --> 00:48:33,000
of what documentaries you know great
808
00:48:30,630 --> 00:48:35,250
we wouldn't supply the test results we
809
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:37,139
would not supply you know the pictures
810
00:48:35,250 --> 00:48:39,659
in the video it's not worth us getting
811
00:48:37,139 --> 00:48:43,798
it out of archive and it out of where
812
00:48:39,659 --> 00:48:45,719
we've stored it running around and
813
00:48:43,798 --> 00:48:47,969
spending our time doing that versus
814
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:56,788
working for a client for tens of
815
00:48:47,969 --> 00:48:58,618
thousands of dollars a day just ironic
816
00:48:56,789 --> 00:49:01,740
that you can get these so quickly of
817
00:48:58,619 --> 00:49:04,369
helping us and we've asked to these for
818
00:49:01,739 --> 00:49:04,368
a year
819
00:49:13,619 --> 00:49:19,619
oh that's when she was on the prenatal
820
00:49:16,289 --> 00:49:21,659
vitamins well when she gum was pregnant
821
00:49:19,619 --> 00:49:27,000
do you remember having you heard trouble
822
00:49:21,659 --> 00:49:29,909
sleeping no and she got um hydrocodone
823
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:33,420
and uh that's the dentist she would
824
00:49:29,909 --> 00:49:34,440
always do this I noticed always rubbing
825
00:49:33,420 --> 00:49:37,680
the side yep
826
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:40,889
I so didn't how friends saw that too I
827
00:49:37,679 --> 00:49:43,019
had a tooth was bother yeah okay so
828
00:49:40,889 --> 00:49:45,710
before she had the cleaning and x-rays
829
00:49:43,019 --> 00:49:49,409
here she had it she had the root canal
830
00:49:45,710 --> 00:49:51,119
then they went to go in and do more she
831
00:49:49,409 --> 00:49:53,670
really would not get that finished it
832
00:49:51,119 --> 00:49:58,500
was - she just hated it right he's gonna
833
00:49:53,670 --> 00:50:00,300
say denon all exam no cleaning so
834
00:49:58,500 --> 00:50:04,199
obviously she was still having pain it
835
00:50:00,300 --> 00:50:05,700
was at the last one wait seven 3108
836
00:50:04,199 --> 00:50:07,469
that's a year before
837
00:50:05,699 --> 00:50:10,619
maybe it's the same tooth that was
838
00:50:07,469 --> 00:50:12,000
bothering her Olsen's l5 that she never
839
00:50:10,619 --> 00:50:13,769
got worked on and this is the one that
840
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,269
they said she went and then she left
841
00:50:13,769 --> 00:50:17,940
they said that she left the dental
842
00:50:15,269 --> 00:50:20,550
office in the middle of it all we wanted
843
00:50:17,940 --> 00:50:24,179
was a starting point of what happened to
844
00:50:20,550 --> 00:50:26,970
her because if she stopped for Advil or
845
00:50:24,179 --> 00:50:33,329
Tylenol or something something was
846
00:50:26,969 --> 00:50:34,679
bothering him it was bad yeah I feel
847
00:50:33,329 --> 00:50:36,239
like now I can look over these things
848
00:50:34,679 --> 00:50:39,199
all the time but I'm just gonna come to
849
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,199
conclusions in my head
850
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:12,690
and approximately 1:00 p.m. Diane called
851
00:51:10,500 --> 00:51:14,130
Jackie hands and this is the phone call
852
00:51:12,690 --> 00:51:17,030
where she sounded dis shelled and
853
00:51:14,130 --> 00:51:17,030
disoriented
854
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,700
he basically stated that she didn't
855
00:51:22,869 --> 00:51:26,920
sound like herself and at one point she
856
00:51:24,699 --> 00:51:29,078
called him Danny which is her husband's
857
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,999
name and he knew something was wrong the
858
00:51:29,079 --> 00:51:33,579
kids were crying in the background and
859
00:51:30,998 --> 00:51:39,730
he told his sister to said put that he'd
860
00:51:33,579 --> 00:51:42,130
be right up there when there is an
861
00:51:39,730 --> 00:51:45,039
incoherent phone call with her brother
862
00:51:42,130 --> 00:51:48,880
our oldest niece is apparently on the
863
00:51:45,039 --> 00:51:51,099
phone to her parents saying there's
864
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:53,380
something wrong with aunt Diane if
865
00:51:51,099 --> 00:51:55,210
they're saying aunt Diane can't say and
866
00:51:53,380 --> 00:51:57,369
Diane can't
867
00:51:55,210 --> 00:52:01,869
something's wrong with aunt Diane they
868
00:51:57,369 --> 00:52:03,160
were pulled over at that point and Emma
869
00:52:01,869 --> 00:52:07,380
told her dad we're hit where they were
870
00:52:03,159 --> 00:52:12,909
read me a sign and she said Tarrytown
871
00:52:07,380 --> 00:52:18,579
Warren races up from where he is in Long
872
00:52:12,909 --> 00:52:21,598
Island to the Tappan Zee Bridge to try
873
00:52:18,579 --> 00:52:21,599
and find Diane
874
00:52:32,380 --> 00:52:37,939
she leaves her phone on the Jersey
875
00:52:35,478 --> 00:52:40,308
barrier the the divider acted happens
876
00:52:37,938 --> 00:52:42,288
eBridge the phone was located right
877
00:52:40,309 --> 00:52:42,739
after the Tappan Zee Bridge tolls on a
878
00:52:42,289 --> 00:52:44,299
pull-off
879
00:52:42,739 --> 00:52:48,739
off to the right someone had found her
880
00:52:44,298 --> 00:52:50,358
cell phone sitting on a guide rail her
881
00:52:48,739 --> 00:52:52,338
entire route up until the Tappan Zee
882
00:52:50,358 --> 00:52:55,788
Bridge is consistent well she would have
883
00:52:52,338 --> 00:52:57,768
normally done then becomes unclear as to
884
00:52:55,789 --> 00:53:00,189
why she got off the highway and where
885
00:52:57,768 --> 00:53:00,188
she went
886
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:27,849
all right no quite frankly well thanks
887
00:53:22,989 --> 00:53:36,429
for your doing this was she your closest
888
00:53:27,849 --> 00:53:38,170
friend I would say yeah she was and we
889
00:53:36,429 --> 00:53:40,298
were kind of not very similar in a lot
890
00:53:38,170 --> 00:53:43,720
of ways like I'm a very easygoing person
891
00:53:40,298 --> 00:53:45,849
and lot of things passed and she was had
892
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,139
to be in charge of everything and there
893
00:53:45,849 --> 00:53:48,460
was nothing left to chance
894
00:53:47,139 --> 00:53:51,670
you know everything had to be planned
895
00:53:48,460 --> 00:53:55,750
and precise she was a powerful woman
896
00:53:51,670 --> 00:53:59,559
she's very much in charge of everything
897
00:53:55,750 --> 00:54:02,318
at work at home in the car and a
898
00:53:59,559 --> 00:54:04,869
friendship if you were with Diane you
899
00:54:02,318 --> 00:54:06,969
pretty much Sheila it was her way yeah
900
00:54:04,869 --> 00:54:09,250
you know it was pretty much if you said
901
00:54:06,969 --> 00:54:11,259
you know even I would program the GPS in
902
00:54:09,250 --> 00:54:13,269
the car and I just blindly follow the
903
00:54:11,260 --> 00:54:14,859
GPS if I put an address in there and
904
00:54:13,269 --> 00:54:17,920
she'd be like no that's wrong you know
905
00:54:14,858 --> 00:54:19,538
turning in you know yeah every step of
906
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,490
the way you know she would it would be
907
00:54:19,539 --> 00:54:24,450
we're outing itself because she wouldn't
908
00:54:21,489 --> 00:54:27,308
you know allow me to follow the GPS
909
00:54:24,449 --> 00:54:29,019
she's certainly not a perfect person you
910
00:54:27,309 --> 00:54:30,490
know she loved you she loved you if she
911
00:54:29,019 --> 00:54:34,809
didn't like you she could be difficult
912
00:54:30,489 --> 00:54:35,649
you know you know she didn't let
913
00:54:34,809 --> 00:54:39,849
anything go
914
00:54:35,650 --> 00:54:41,528
you know she you know somebody was rude
915
00:54:39,849 --> 00:54:44,559
or you know she called him out right
916
00:54:41,528 --> 00:54:48,489
there you know um she was okay as long
917
00:54:44,559 --> 00:54:50,349
as she was in control of everything you
918
00:54:48,489 --> 00:54:53,259
guys ever have conversations about any
919
00:54:50,349 --> 00:54:57,400
kind of pain she was having um you know
920
00:54:53,260 --> 00:55:00,160
I know I I know she did have issues with
921
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:01,838
um like especially that last week every
922
00:55:00,159 --> 00:55:04,118
time I would see her she would be
923
00:55:01,838 --> 00:55:05,548
holding her jaw or moving her mouth or
924
00:55:04,119 --> 00:55:09,130
right you know like moving her lower jaw
925
00:55:05,548 --> 00:55:11,259
knowing her and knowing how what kind of
926
00:55:09,130 --> 00:55:15,539
person she was every day of her life and
927
00:55:11,260 --> 00:55:15,539
how she conducted us um as
928
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:22,289
crazy as it sounds people grasping for
929
00:55:19,259 --> 00:55:24,750
up you know reasons um it seems more
930
00:55:22,289 --> 00:55:26,369
plausible to anybody who knows her that
931
00:55:24,750 --> 00:55:29,818
something medical could have happened to
932
00:55:26,369 --> 00:55:31,890
her she seen it all no not at all and
933
00:55:29,818 --> 00:55:33,630
and Diane was not the type of person to
934
00:55:31,889 --> 00:55:35,190
ever hide her feelings if she was upset
935
00:55:33,630 --> 00:55:37,289
with you you knew she was upset with you
936
00:55:35,190 --> 00:55:40,200
you know she wasn't a type of person
937
00:55:37,289 --> 00:55:42,930
that um would smile if you know and just
938
00:55:40,199 --> 00:55:44,098
pretend if she had if something was
939
00:55:42,929 --> 00:55:46,679
wrong she would she would have said
940
00:55:44,099 --> 00:55:49,109
something was wrong did she talk about
941
00:55:46,679 --> 00:55:53,788
her marriage with you not really about
942
00:55:49,108 --> 00:55:56,219
her marriage you know I know she to me
943
00:55:53,789 --> 00:56:00,359
she just appeared very content you know
944
00:55:56,219 --> 00:56:07,679
very um happy with the way her life was
945
00:56:00,358 --> 00:56:12,179
um stint you know never hurt her she
946
00:56:07,679 --> 00:56:13,848
wouldn't discuss her marriage no one
947
00:56:12,179 --> 00:56:17,429
would last time you had spoken with her
948
00:56:13,849 --> 00:56:18,900
box ideas ten years hmm so what happened
949
00:56:17,429 --> 00:56:20,219
with you guys that you didn't speak for
950
00:56:18,900 --> 00:56:22,259
all that time how did that work
951
00:56:20,219 --> 00:56:25,889
how'd that work that you know didn't
952
00:56:22,259 --> 00:56:27,960
Dani just likes to be Dani and they like
953
00:56:25,889 --> 00:56:29,308
to do their own thing and we never never
954
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,048
got into a fight there was never an
955
00:56:29,309 --> 00:56:33,539
argument there was never a reason why we
956
00:56:31,048 --> 00:56:35,068
stopped talking it just stopped that's
957
00:56:33,539 --> 00:56:37,528
it there was no there's no rhyme or
958
00:56:35,068 --> 00:56:38,940
reason why it ended so I was actually
959
00:56:37,528 --> 00:56:41,579
the only one that was invited to the
960
00:56:38,940 --> 00:56:44,759
wedding and I did not go by choice
961
00:56:41,579 --> 00:56:47,789
because that's Diane and I didn't have
962
00:56:44,759 --> 00:56:51,028
as close to the bond as we had and it
963
00:56:47,789 --> 00:56:54,778
was upsetting and I had I had my first
964
00:56:51,028 --> 00:56:59,869
child already and you know like Diane
965
00:56:54,778 --> 00:56:59,869
was an heir for that which was weird so
966
00:57:02,969 --> 00:57:13,078
use me oh so I think for me like I
967
00:57:09,829 --> 00:57:16,740
couldn't take part of this part of my
968
00:57:13,079 --> 00:57:20,660
life with it without the connection we
969
00:57:16,739 --> 00:57:20,659
had yes
970
00:57:33,699 --> 00:57:35,759
you
971
00:58:08,489 --> 00:58:10,549
you
972
00:58:17,190 --> 00:58:20,548
Gina radius
973
00:58:32,789 --> 00:58:40,699
so you get match to DNA to my wife
974
00:58:48,199 --> 00:58:53,899
Senate that DNA does match the sample
975
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:59,150
what will come next the medical part
976
00:58:53,900 --> 00:59:03,430
right that's what I'm waiting for the
977
00:58:59,150 --> 00:59:03,430
medical part of it
978
00:59:10,460 --> 00:59:15,619
yeah so this was all five four years
979
00:59:12,380 --> 00:59:18,950
before grinding teeth sensitivity to
980
00:59:15,619 --> 00:59:21,950
cold Lucy the broken fillings and tooth
981
00:59:18,949 --> 00:59:25,039
pain and joy difficulty pain does that
982
00:59:21,949 --> 00:59:29,108
say abscess you know that was the same
983
00:59:25,039 --> 00:59:31,338
tooth that was bothering her afterwards
984
00:59:29,108 --> 00:59:35,088
no so funny she never even tell people
985
00:59:31,338 --> 00:59:36,739
she's gone to the dentist not like
986
00:59:35,088 --> 00:59:39,739
people who know she okay
987
00:59:36,739 --> 00:59:42,879
no never for that year she was fine I'm
988
00:59:39,739 --> 00:59:42,879
fine I'm fine I'm fine
989
00:59:44,230 --> 00:59:51,440
Diane was a very private person people
990
00:59:48,199 --> 00:59:53,568
who knew her said to me over and over
991
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:57,139
again that Diane didn't talk about
992
00:59:53,568 --> 01:00:00,759
personal matters she never articulated
993
00:59:57,139 --> 01:00:05,679
feelings about anybody
994
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:05,680
hi says Liz Garbus calling again
995
01:00:07,659 --> 01:00:14,649
her mom was like a non-issue I don't
996
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:18,410
really think she wanted to interact with
997
01:00:14,650 --> 01:00:21,500
her she talked about her dad she told
998
01:00:18,409 --> 01:00:27,608
her dad do we know why her mom left her
999
01:00:21,500 --> 01:00:27,608
house the house look at that I did
1000
01:00:28,519 --> 01:00:35,300
so you don't you don't want to talk
1001
01:00:29,869 --> 01:00:38,720
about her mom no I'm sorry I don't even
1002
01:00:35,300 --> 01:00:41,800
know 100% the background of the divorce
1003
01:00:38,719 --> 01:00:44,449
I just know everybody they were all very
1004
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:46,550
angry the mother left with the next-door
1005
01:00:44,449 --> 01:00:48,230
neighbor I think it was like a family
1006
01:00:46,550 --> 01:00:51,200
friend but you know what she never
1007
01:00:48,230 --> 01:00:53,599
complained about it she never talked
1008
01:00:51,199 --> 01:00:55,118
about like it was as if like almost like
1009
01:00:53,599 --> 01:00:58,639
she wasn't even there
1010
01:00:55,119 --> 01:01:02,500
one time I told him Diane's mother and
1011
01:00:58,639 --> 01:01:04,129
uh she said I'm not the bad person and
1012
01:01:02,500 --> 01:01:07,099
whatever that meant
1013
01:01:04,130 --> 01:01:08,840
and also I told I told that to Diane
1014
01:01:07,099 --> 01:01:13,099
when I came home and she didn't want
1015
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:17,180
nobody Diane's mother reached out a time
1016
01:01:13,099 --> 01:01:19,610
and again trying to reconcile trying to
1017
01:01:17,179 --> 01:01:22,159
develop a relationship with Diane and I
1018
01:01:19,610 --> 01:01:25,190
and his brothers and Diane's mother had
1019
01:01:22,159 --> 01:01:28,219
a relationship with her sons Diane's
1020
01:01:25,190 --> 01:01:30,860
brothers so it was really uniquely Diane
1021
01:01:28,219 --> 01:01:35,299
who held some kind of unarticulated
1022
01:01:30,860 --> 01:01:38,210
grudge against her mother parents get
1023
01:01:35,300 --> 01:01:39,650
divorced but it's very rare that a nine
1024
01:01:38,210 --> 01:01:41,659
year old daughter would not go with a
1025
01:01:39,650 --> 01:01:42,889
mother than a divorce that particular
1026
01:01:41,659 --> 01:01:46,219
point in time
1027
01:01:42,889 --> 01:01:47,868
so did Diane herself need to use some
1028
01:01:46,219 --> 01:01:49,969
denial to go ahead and survive the
1029
01:01:47,869 --> 01:01:51,950
trauma of being abandoned by her mother
1030
01:01:49,969 --> 01:01:54,529
at the age of nine of course it's very
1031
01:01:51,949 --> 01:01:58,539
painful for a nine-year-old I think she
1032
01:01:54,530 --> 01:01:58,540
had that vulnerability about her
1033
01:02:06,949 --> 01:02:10,819
please through it starts a temple my
1034
01:02:09,469 --> 01:02:12,769
name is Brad fishiness I'm actually
1035
01:02:10,820 --> 01:02:14,660
trying to help a friend right now their
1036
01:02:12,769 --> 01:02:16,730
children are on their way home from a
1037
01:02:14,659 --> 01:02:20,210
camping trip with their aunt we just
1038
01:02:16,730 --> 01:02:22,250
called my friends out the straps hanging
1039
01:02:20,210 --> 01:02:23,630
at the antis driving erratically they're
1040
01:02:22,250 --> 01:02:24,949
at a rep center the best they can
1041
01:02:23,630 --> 01:02:27,619
understand is that they were in
1042
01:02:24,949 --> 01:02:30,829
Tarrytown or Sleepy Hollow those were
1043
01:02:27,619 --> 01:02:32,809
the signs that they saw the answers been
1044
01:02:30,829 --> 01:02:34,969
picking up the cell phone right now no
1045
01:02:32,809 --> 01:02:37,820
kind of card run yeah they're in a
1046
01:02:34,969 --> 01:02:39,709
minivan threat and it has a ski rack on
1047
01:02:37,820 --> 01:02:41,000
it Jackie couldn't if she's flipping out
1048
01:02:39,710 --> 01:02:41,570
she can't remember her license plate
1049
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,960
number
1050
01:02:41,570 --> 01:02:47,620
just based on what miss Jackie Hance
1051
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:50,210
told me that this was out of character
1052
01:02:47,619 --> 01:02:53,989
for her sister-in-law not to answer the
1053
01:02:50,210 --> 01:02:55,760
phone and also the fact that one of the
1054
01:02:53,989 --> 01:02:56,779
children had mentioned that the that her
1055
01:02:55,760 --> 01:03:00,200
aunt wasn't feeling well
1056
01:02:56,780 --> 01:03:04,370
I asked mrs. Hanson Diane Schuler had
1057
01:03:00,199 --> 01:03:06,289
any history of medical problems I think
1058
01:03:04,369 --> 01:03:07,609
I even asked her you know if she had any
1059
01:03:06,289 --> 01:03:09,739
history of drug abuse and again these
1060
01:03:07,610 --> 01:03:13,070
are questions I would ask anybody and
1061
01:03:09,739 --> 01:03:15,979
she said no so at that point I kind of
1062
01:03:13,070 --> 01:03:20,600
treated it as an overdue motorist /
1063
01:03:15,980 --> 01:03:23,329
possible medical emergency but at that
1064
01:03:20,599 --> 01:03:27,769
point we were just check and see if we
1065
01:03:23,329 --> 01:03:31,369
can locate the van there's a number of
1066
01:03:27,769 --> 01:03:32,719
ways that she can get to the entrance to
1067
01:03:31,369 --> 01:03:34,190
the Taconic she could have gone up 9a
1068
01:03:32,719 --> 01:03:37,000
and going across she could have gone up
1069
01:03:34,190 --> 01:03:42,440
to the Connick and simply maybe u-turn
1070
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:44,800
so how she got to that exit ramp we
1071
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:44,800
don't know
1072
01:03:46,150 --> 01:03:50,720
State Police are the temple Jessie
1073
01:03:48,829 --> 01:03:52,730
Evelyn malar just kept listen I have a
1074
01:03:50,719 --> 01:03:55,219
family here that thinks that they might
1075
01:03:52,730 --> 01:03:57,590
have a medical emergency of their sister
1076
01:03:55,219 --> 01:03:59,329
and five kids in the car okay do you
1077
01:03:57,590 --> 01:04:01,550
know is there any way that we can track
1078
01:03:59,329 --> 01:04:02,389
her cell phone to get a location if I
1079
01:04:01,550 --> 01:04:04,340
give you a number
1080
01:04:02,389 --> 01:04:10,549
look it's right there look at the last
1081
01:04:04,340 --> 01:04:13,400
name schul er but on her voicemail faces
1082
01:04:10,550 --> 01:04:15,440
con chance that's related which name
1083
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:18,260
with the phone bill dinner for girls in
1084
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:20,150
school or to hear but yakking on the
1085
01:04:18,260 --> 01:04:22,970
phone with is part of my life hey
1086
01:04:20,150 --> 01:04:35,539
Giselle fulfill coming yours our answer
1087
01:04:22,969 --> 01:04:37,489
to life feeling with me I got a phone
1088
01:04:35,539 --> 01:04:39,699
call from my brother-in-law Danny's
1089
01:04:37,489 --> 01:04:39,699
brother
1090
01:04:40,369 --> 01:04:46,579
then I got my keys and my brother and we
1091
01:04:43,518 --> 01:04:50,449
went upstate he asked me if I would take
1092
01:04:46,579 --> 01:04:53,180
a ride wouldn't back upstate because
1093
01:04:50,449 --> 01:04:57,078
they could find font Diane I was at work
1094
01:04:53,179 --> 01:04:59,528
and when I heard Jimmy : see Danny's
1095
01:04:57,079 --> 01:05:02,539
coming over he needs me
1096
01:04:59,528 --> 01:05:06,068
we're going to find I am at that point
1097
01:05:02,539 --> 01:05:06,069
we just thought she wasn't feeling well
1098
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:20,490
you don't want to touch that
1099
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:28,358
this is an area where we set up our
1100
01:05:25,929 --> 01:05:31,328
alcohol levels for whatever sample we're
1101
01:05:28,358 --> 01:05:33,369
testing so it's blood urine brain if
1102
01:05:31,329 --> 01:05:36,818
it's where Diane Schuler's blood alcohol
1103
01:05:33,369 --> 01:05:38,710
was listed yes when we talked about the
1104
01:05:36,818 --> 01:05:40,179
effect first of alcohol the frontal lobe
1105
01:05:38,710 --> 01:05:42,278
of your brain starts to be affected
1106
01:05:40,179 --> 01:05:45,608
around point zero one two point one zero
1107
01:05:42,278 --> 01:05:49,380
percent Diane Schuler had just over ten
1108
01:05:45,608 --> 01:05:56,699
drinks in her at the time that she died
1109
01:05:49,380 --> 01:05:56,700
her blood alcohol was 0.11
1110
01:05:57,298 --> 01:06:05,798
0.23% and the gastric contents were 0.25
1111
01:06:02,018 --> 01:06:08,588
percent alcohol levels I'm a
1112
01:06:05,798 --> 01:06:10,179
psychiatrist trained in general
1113
01:06:08,588 --> 01:06:15,009
psychiatry and then did additional
1114
01:06:10,179 --> 01:06:17,469
training in drugs and alcohol once you
1115
01:06:15,010 --> 01:06:20,430
start getting over point two then you
1116
01:06:17,469 --> 01:06:23,139
start getting into alcohol toxicity
1117
01:06:20,429 --> 01:06:25,139
that's the level where people are
1118
01:06:23,139 --> 01:06:28,980
showing up needing to show up in the ER
1119
01:06:25,139 --> 01:06:32,920
becoming unconscious having blackouts
1120
01:06:28,980 --> 01:06:35,920
and even going into coma and with the
1121
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:37,539
marijuana on board one in one don't
1122
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:40,150
equal two anymore
1123
01:06:37,539 --> 01:06:42,099
there they potentiate each other so then
1124
01:06:40,150 --> 01:06:43,690
she's got the effect of the marijuana as
1125
01:06:42,099 --> 01:06:46,869
well as the effect of the alcohol
1126
01:06:43,690 --> 01:06:49,630
alcohol may increase the absorption of
1127
01:06:46,869 --> 01:06:54,068
the marijuana so that people who drink
1128
01:06:49,630 --> 01:06:57,099
first may experience a stronger effects
1129
01:06:54,068 --> 01:06:59,980
so if she wasn't accustomed to drinking
1130
01:06:57,099 --> 01:07:01,869
and smoking at the same time the
1131
01:06:59,980 --> 01:07:05,259
marijuana affected her so much more than
1132
01:07:01,869 --> 01:07:08,079
she had anticipated and marijuana being
1133
01:07:05,259 --> 01:07:12,338
a hallucinogen your cognitive function
1134
01:07:08,079 --> 01:07:15,250
can get can deteriorate pretty rapidly
1135
01:07:12,338 --> 01:07:19,298
the THC which is the active gradient in
1136
01:07:15,250 --> 01:07:22,028
marijuana her level was 113 nanograms
1137
01:07:19,298 --> 01:07:24,009
per mil was very high so we were able to
1138
01:07:22,028 --> 01:07:25,900
tell based on research that she could
1139
01:07:24,009 --> 01:07:28,960
have smoked anywhere from 15 minutes to
1140
01:07:25,900 --> 01:07:30,050
an hour before she had this accident
1141
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,639
Meryl
1142
01:07:30,050 --> 01:07:34,340
is our number one drug of choice after
1143
01:07:31,639 --> 01:07:37,699
alcohol or with alcohol it's in fact
1144
01:07:34,340 --> 01:07:39,650
it's outpacing alcohol as being found in
1145
01:07:37,699 --> 01:07:41,929
drunk drivers throughout the nation not
1146
01:07:39,650 --> 01:07:43,400
just here one thing that they mentioned
1147
01:07:41,929 --> 01:07:45,009
in these things about the pot I mean
1148
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:47,930
what do you mean that's not true at all
1149
01:07:45,010 --> 01:07:50,210
it's not true at all on a rare occasion
1150
01:07:47,929 --> 01:07:53,750
she would but definitely not that
1151
01:07:50,210 --> 01:07:56,240
weekend absolutely not it was a signing
1152
01:07:53,750 --> 01:07:57,710
she used to relax was that something she
1153
01:07:56,239 --> 01:08:00,139
used for stress was it something she
1154
01:07:57,710 --> 01:08:02,440
used for on an occasion or on an
1155
01:08:00,139 --> 01:08:05,569
occasion to relax
1156
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:09,079
that's all I'm not true everything here
1157
01:08:05,570 --> 01:08:11,300
is not true when did she use marijuana
1158
01:08:09,079 --> 01:08:13,429
cheese which was at work cheese's no no
1159
01:08:11,300 --> 01:08:16,159
it was I think mostly to be able to get
1160
01:08:13,429 --> 01:08:17,750
a good night's sleep I think it was
1161
01:08:16,159 --> 01:08:19,818
after everything was done close her eye
1162
01:08:17,750 --> 01:08:22,189
and laundry's done kids are in bed books
1163
01:08:19,819 --> 01:08:23,480
are read everything was done and maybe
1164
01:08:22,189 --> 01:08:25,789
she'd have some before she went to sleep
1165
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:27,229
it wasn't like you would ever think she
1166
01:08:25,789 --> 01:08:31,659
you know you never look at her and think
1167
01:08:27,229 --> 01:08:33,798
she smoked pot but some people do
1168
01:08:31,659 --> 01:08:35,778
did she ever discuss it with you like
1169
01:08:33,798 --> 01:08:41,420
why she took it or what was it no I just
1170
01:08:35,779 --> 01:08:43,580
knew that she smelled the question is
1171
01:08:41,420 --> 01:08:45,588
why did she need to use marijuana to
1172
01:08:43,579 --> 01:08:49,818
help her relax to help her go to sleep
1173
01:08:45,588 --> 01:08:50,960
what was so painful for her there was
1174
01:08:49,819 --> 01:08:53,089
something in her life which was
1175
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:56,210
uncontrollable basically from the age of
1176
01:08:53,088 --> 01:08:57,949
nine on if he cannot control what
1177
01:08:56,210 --> 01:09:00,579
happened at the time it happened they
1178
01:08:57,949 --> 01:09:01,909
themselves become hyper responsible
1179
01:09:00,579 --> 01:09:04,970
tightly-wound
1180
01:09:01,909 --> 01:09:09,260
and she was okay as long as she was in
1181
01:09:04,970 --> 01:09:11,240
control having a history of an early
1182
01:09:09,260 --> 01:09:14,000
loss or trauma definitely predisposes
1183
01:09:11,239 --> 01:09:18,289
one toward you know both mood disorders
1184
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:22,569
and addictive disorders so statistically
1185
01:09:18,289 --> 01:09:22,569
she's at risk
1186
01:09:33,979 --> 01:09:40,879
the witnesses I interviewed had
1187
01:09:38,170 --> 01:09:42,079
encountered Diane Schuler's vehicle just
1188
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:44,210
prior to the accident
1189
01:09:42,079 --> 01:09:47,088
they were getting off Pleasantville Road
1190
01:09:44,210 --> 01:09:48,588
to exit and they observed her coming at
1191
01:09:47,088 --> 01:09:52,809
them the wrong way
1192
01:09:48,588 --> 01:09:52,809
coming down the exit ramp at the cottage
1193
01:09:59,279 --> 01:10:04,449
it was literally as if we weren't even
1194
01:10:02,500 --> 01:10:07,029
on the road yeah she's coming toward us
1195
01:10:04,449 --> 01:10:09,460
you know I mean I'm blinking my lights
1196
01:10:07,029 --> 01:10:11,829
and beating the horn she's flailing and
1197
01:10:09,460 --> 01:10:15,550
we drove up on the grass because
1198
01:10:11,829 --> 01:10:18,909
otherwise we would have been head she
1199
01:10:15,550 --> 01:10:21,699
never put on a break she never even her
1200
01:10:18,909 --> 01:10:23,619
eyes didn't even move it was just I'm
1201
01:10:21,699 --> 01:10:26,559
going where I want to go I'm doing what
1202
01:10:23,619 --> 01:10:29,920
I need to do I'm I'm where I want to be
1203
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:32,860
and then she went around the bend onto
1204
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:35,409
the highway itself we know that Diane
1205
01:10:32,859 --> 01:10:37,469
Schuler enters the Taconic State Parkway
1206
01:10:35,409 --> 01:10:40,269
going south in the northbound lane
1207
01:10:37,470 --> 01:10:43,810
approximately 1.7 miles north of the
1208
01:10:40,270 --> 01:10:46,900
point of impact she drives this 1.7
1209
01:10:43,810 --> 01:10:50,850
miles at a high rate of speed and you
1210
01:10:46,899 --> 01:10:50,849
have half a dozen callers to 911 one
1211
01:10:52,409 --> 01:10:57,760
state police found one they believe she
1212
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:59,739
got a northbound chronic visit anything
1213
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:01,960
in the right lane going southbound nine
1214
01:10:59,739 --> 01:11:05,289
on one side I remember the Conn Express
1215
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:07,149
where we discuss 800 exit 100 feet
1216
01:11:05,289 --> 01:11:08,890
there's a car going like 70 miles an
1217
01:11:07,149 --> 01:11:10,599
hour the wrong directions was very
1218
01:11:08,890 --> 01:11:12,100
surreal seeing it coming at you saw what
1219
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,510
you had to do was you know thank God
1220
01:11:12,100 --> 01:11:15,700
there was nobody on the side I was able
1221
01:11:13,510 --> 01:11:18,520
to go over a couple of lanes as the van
1222
01:11:15,699 --> 01:11:19,929
came by me and I said at the time 70
1223
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:22,270
miles an hour because it was speeding
1224
01:11:19,930 --> 01:11:24,940
right by that pin straight that like
1225
01:11:22,270 --> 01:11:26,860
inch straight wasn't doing this was dead
1226
01:11:24,939 --> 01:11:28,299
pin straight right after it happened
1227
01:11:26,859 --> 01:11:30,639
that's when I called 9-1-1
1228
01:11:28,300 --> 01:11:33,070
State Police now on yeah you got a guy
1229
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:36,010
driving south on a North opticon o'clock
1230
01:11:33,069 --> 01:11:37,779
what boomer on I was in the left lane I
1231
01:11:36,010 --> 01:11:39,789
just pressed Pleasantville Road he's
1232
01:11:37,779 --> 01:11:41,889
going like a bat out should be already
1233
01:11:39,789 --> 01:11:43,899
on the same Parkway right now it's a
1234
01:11:41,890 --> 01:11:46,930
minivan State Police now along where's
1235
01:11:43,899 --> 01:11:49,119
emergency time on the constant thing on
1236
01:11:46,930 --> 01:11:50,890
the phone oh man that's going the top
1237
01:11:49,119 --> 01:11:54,760
down yeah yeah they're going out for it
1238
01:11:50,890 --> 01:11:58,810
yeah I just remember saying oh my god oh
1239
01:11:54,760 --> 01:12:01,510
my god I was just you know trying to you
1240
01:11:58,810 --> 01:12:04,300
know draw attention to get validation
1241
01:12:01,510 --> 01:12:06,699
from rich that maybe something peculiar
1242
01:12:04,300 --> 01:12:09,570
was there on the road my heart was going
1243
01:12:06,699 --> 01:12:10,889
about 200 you know beats a minute and
1244
01:12:09,569 --> 01:12:12,779
you know
1245
01:12:10,890 --> 01:12:15,900
to react quickly get out of the way and
1246
01:12:12,779 --> 01:12:17,519
then the car went past us it's like
1247
01:12:15,899 --> 01:12:19,619
playing chicken I mean she was going
1248
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:23,160
straight on the road we saw something
1249
01:12:19,619 --> 01:12:24,750
coming at us we reacted removed she had
1250
01:12:23,159 --> 01:12:26,849
no reaction at all
1251
01:12:24,750 --> 01:12:29,430
she didn't sob she can slow down she
1252
01:12:26,850 --> 01:12:35,160
didn't move I thought it was someone who
1253
01:12:29,430 --> 01:12:37,440
was dead set on killing themselves good
1254
01:12:35,159 --> 01:12:40,319
afternoon I don't know if I can get up
1255
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:41,309
here because I'm all white it's very
1256
01:12:40,319 --> 01:12:43,739
nice to meet you
1257
01:12:41,310 --> 01:12:46,190
thank you for making the trip we
1258
01:12:43,739 --> 01:12:46,189
appreciate it
1259
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:09,860
okay the autopsy report and clue
1260
01:13:05,750 --> 01:13:14,840
includes chemical analysis toxicology
1261
01:13:09,859 --> 01:13:21,439
and I reviewed some witness statements
1262
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:24,739
and police statements and I gained the
1263
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:36,679
impression that the autopsy was done
1264
01:13:24,738 --> 01:13:40,238
properly and was done well so is there
1265
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:43,789
anything that would based on the autopsy
1266
01:13:40,238 --> 01:13:48,468
account for this crash alcohol and
1267
01:13:43,789 --> 01:13:51,409
marijuana I feel we obviously don't know
1268
01:13:48,469 --> 01:13:53,630
much about this but she would not do
1269
01:13:51,409 --> 01:13:56,599
this there's something wrong with this
1270
01:13:53,630 --> 01:13:58,430
picture and I don't want her being a
1271
01:13:56,600 --> 01:14:00,170
poster child for drunk moms because she
1272
01:13:58,430 --> 01:14:02,360
would never do that you tell me my
1273
01:14:00,170 --> 01:14:04,569
sister does it my sister passed away I
1274
01:14:02,359 --> 01:14:09,589
tell you yes she probably was drinking
1275
01:14:04,569 --> 01:14:11,809
100% but this just wasn't Diane this
1276
01:14:09,590 --> 01:14:14,060
wasn't his wife she'd be the very one
1277
01:14:11,810 --> 01:14:16,250
that would like yell at us or kick our
1278
01:14:14,060 --> 01:14:19,550
butt what that we gonna do
1279
01:14:16,250 --> 01:14:21,829
I just feel which you know it's just
1280
01:14:19,550 --> 01:14:22,719
maybe my strong opinion is as soon as
1281
01:14:21,829 --> 01:14:26,180
they saw
1282
01:14:22,719 --> 01:14:28,609
alcohol it was all stopped okay she was
1283
01:14:26,180 --> 01:14:30,380
drunk she was high that's it categorized
1284
01:14:28,609 --> 01:14:33,170
that drunk mom driving five kids in the
1285
01:14:30,380 --> 01:14:37,460
car what about the abscess tooth V which
1286
01:14:33,170 --> 01:14:39,560
abscess tooth an abscess tooth could
1287
01:14:37,460 --> 01:14:43,640
that cause a stroke it doesn't that's
1288
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:46,400
called a stroke in serious but based on
1289
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:49,989
the autopsy there is none that I saw on
1290
01:14:46,399 --> 01:14:53,449
microscopy stroke in something like this
1291
01:14:49,988 --> 01:14:56,479
and it doesn't cause alcohol well could
1292
01:14:53,449 --> 01:14:57,920
that reading be a mistake due to other
1293
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:59,809
medical conditions that people don't
1294
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:03,130
know that she had good but the question
1295
01:14:59,810 --> 01:15:07,910
of the alcohol will always prevail so
1296
01:15:03,130 --> 01:15:08,840
say we exhumed the body and is really
1297
01:15:07,909 --> 01:15:12,618
bad acts
1298
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:14,960
s tooth we have x-rays from years ago
1299
01:15:12,618 --> 01:15:17,868
but the question will still prevail
1300
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:19,368
how did of course evil in the truth
1301
01:15:17,868 --> 01:15:23,210
maybe she had a stroke and by mistake
1302
01:15:19,368 --> 01:15:26,029
she thought that water and drank it we
1303
01:15:23,210 --> 01:15:27,649
don't if someone tells us we want to
1304
01:15:26,029 --> 01:15:30,500
know what physically happened to that if
1305
01:15:27,649 --> 01:15:33,138
she did have alcohol in her did she stop
1306
01:15:30,500 --> 01:15:35,179
and be incoherent and do something
1307
01:15:33,139 --> 01:15:38,029
medically happened to her that well
1308
01:15:35,179 --> 01:15:40,130
we're even willing to bet to say that
1309
01:15:38,029 --> 01:15:41,960
but there's no way if she was in a right
1310
01:15:40,130 --> 01:15:44,060
state of mind that she would go and take
1311
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:45,408
that bottle so now have you tell me she
1312
01:15:44,060 --> 01:15:47,389
was having a stroke or she was
1313
01:15:45,408 --> 01:15:49,219
hallucinating or she was this was she
1314
01:15:47,389 --> 01:15:51,289
was that due to an abscess we're going
1315
01:15:49,219 --> 01:15:54,408
to have to live with that if she did
1316
01:15:51,289 --> 01:15:58,760
have an abscess she could have had such
1317
01:15:54,408 --> 01:16:01,698
pain she takes whatever is available to
1318
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:03,409
alleviate the pain thinking no I don't
1319
01:16:01,698 --> 01:16:05,210
think so I think she wouldn't do me and
1320
01:16:03,408 --> 01:16:06,529
should either have to be not thinking
1321
01:16:05,210 --> 01:16:08,448
it's water when she's not thinking
1322
01:16:06,529 --> 01:16:11,479
clearly because she had to do that right
1323
01:16:08,448 --> 01:16:14,779
like I'm thinking okay so if you had a
1324
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:21,049
tooth abscess what you could do is say
1325
01:16:14,779 --> 01:16:23,840
to yourself she had severe pain and she
1326
01:16:21,050 --> 01:16:28,760
had to alleviate that pain now not in an
1327
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:31,760
hour now so she drank 1.9 in fact you
1328
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:34,429
know no one who drank once a month maybe
1329
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:38,150
look it really doesn't make sense my
1330
01:16:34,429 --> 01:16:41,989
trying to convince you you have to have
1331
01:16:38,149 --> 01:16:44,809
your satisfaction your satisfaction is
1332
01:16:41,988 --> 01:16:46,250
only if your goal is only be going to be
1333
01:16:44,810 --> 01:16:49,460
achieved if you send it to another
1334
01:16:46,250 --> 01:16:51,590
laboratory to redo it so that would be
1335
01:16:49,460 --> 01:16:54,198
the next step that's the only way I know
1336
01:16:51,590 --> 01:16:56,719
what to tell you and then also with and
1337
01:16:54,198 --> 01:17:02,539
then exhuming that's the way to go right
1338
01:16:56,719 --> 01:17:04,489
yep it's very frustrating people have
1339
01:17:02,539 --> 01:17:06,260
promised us the world that they were
1340
01:17:04,488 --> 01:17:07,908
going to find out get to the bottom and
1341
01:17:06,260 --> 01:17:09,619
retest everything do this and do that
1342
01:17:07,908 --> 01:17:10,219
and nobody has done anything in seen you
1343
01:17:09,618 --> 01:17:12,319
in three months
1344
01:17:10,219 --> 01:17:13,908
you mean when you say people you mean
1345
01:17:12,319 --> 01:17:15,529
however st8 it was supposed to get the
1346
01:17:13,908 --> 01:17:16,908
samples and send them to another lab to
1347
01:17:15,529 --> 01:17:20,029
check to you they get do it
1348
01:17:16,908 --> 01:17:22,689
not we don't know that's what we've been
1349
01:17:20,029 --> 01:17:22,689
asking for
1350
01:17:23,119 --> 01:17:30,979
right yep well we do appreciate you
1351
01:17:26,698 --> 01:17:35,189
looking at everything and doing this
1352
01:17:30,979 --> 01:17:40,049
thank you so much yeah you're welcome
1353
01:17:35,189 --> 01:17:42,799
I I sincerely hope that you'll find
1354
01:17:40,050 --> 01:17:42,800
peace for this
1355
01:17:46,260 --> 01:17:49,369
five o'clock
1356
01:17:49,390 --> 01:17:53,490
I need like 100 cigarettes
1357
01:18:02,819 --> 01:18:05,819
so
1358
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:11,920
you look at me like that
1359
01:18:14,779 --> 01:18:21,649
you don't feel courage
1360
01:18:17,569 --> 01:18:24,609
Jew she'll charge it up that he's
1361
01:18:21,649 --> 01:18:24,609
willing to protest it
1362
01:19:00,979 --> 01:19:09,119
yeah I was a little surprised of how
1363
01:19:03,390 --> 01:19:11,460
very little surprise that he doesn't
1364
01:19:09,119 --> 01:19:16,829
think that was an error hopefully we'll
1365
01:19:11,460 --> 01:19:20,630
be pleasantly surprised no one like in
1366
01:19:16,829 --> 01:19:20,630
my family knows I smell this is good
1367
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:45,470
Maria speaking I need to reach please
1368
01:19:40,100 --> 01:19:49,039
sure thank you to ease come in please
1369
01:19:45,470 --> 01:19:52,850
I had a conversation with the lab and
1370
01:19:49,039 --> 01:19:55,609
they indicated to me that um Tom Ruskin
1371
01:19:52,850 --> 01:19:57,650
had sent them the samples and that they
1372
01:19:55,609 --> 01:19:59,000
had given Tom Ruskin results but they
1373
01:19:57,649 --> 01:20:01,129
couldn't give me any further information
1374
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:02,510
because that bull belonged to Tom Ruskin
1375
01:20:01,130 --> 01:20:04,279
and we would have to go through Tom
1376
01:20:02,510 --> 01:20:06,560
Ruskin to get that information I didn't
1377
01:20:04,279 --> 01:20:08,389
call to get the results they won't give
1378
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:09,950
it to hook to Tom right yeah we did we
1379
01:20:08,390 --> 01:20:11,420
that's when we started to place all
1380
01:20:09,949 --> 01:20:13,670
those phone calls he didn't respond to
1381
01:20:11,420 --> 01:20:16,399
us they had to send me any samples
1382
01:20:13,670 --> 01:20:19,039
letters anything no we never heard from
1383
01:20:16,399 --> 01:20:20,569
him about any of that the biggest
1384
01:20:19,039 --> 01:20:22,159
problem I have in this case is what
1385
01:20:20,569 --> 01:20:25,090
happened with the investigator that's
1386
01:20:22,159 --> 01:20:25,090
something have to live with
1387
01:20:32,408 --> 01:20:37,210
so Danny couldn't call the lab even
1388
01:20:34,779 --> 01:20:40,349
though he retained Tom it seems crazy
1389
01:20:37,210 --> 01:20:40,350
but it seems to do the case
1390
01:20:44,899 --> 01:20:49,710
hi I can't pick beautiful right now so
1391
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:52,640
please at the tone leave a message and
1392
01:20:49,710 --> 01:20:57,420
I'll call you back as quickly as I can
1393
01:20:52,640 --> 01:21:00,660
hi Tom its Jase you're a long time no
1394
01:20:57,420 --> 01:21:02,760
talk I really really really need to talk
1395
01:21:00,659 --> 01:21:05,479
to you and I really need you to call me
1396
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:05,480
back thanks bye
1397
01:21:10,819 --> 01:21:15,229
just so much I push and I can do she
1398
01:21:13,369 --> 01:21:19,840
ain't taking care of my son and working
1399
01:21:15,229 --> 01:21:25,509
there's just so much I can do you know
1400
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:29,270
it's getting old fast growth can house
1401
01:21:25,510 --> 01:21:32,180
everything next int if he was gonna be
1402
01:21:29,270 --> 01:21:34,910
in Alaska somewhere so how about a plane
1403
01:21:32,180 --> 01:21:39,470
I'm kidding but I just you know you so
1404
01:21:34,909 --> 01:21:41,720
much I can do he has different views and
1405
01:21:39,470 --> 01:21:43,550
it's black and white with him very black
1406
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:45,560
and white and he has completely
1407
01:21:43,550 --> 01:21:48,380
different views about things and you
1408
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:50,780
know I he's I don't get it I know it
1409
01:21:48,380 --> 01:21:52,670
sounds stupid but he's off all day you
1410
01:21:50,779 --> 01:21:54,409
know you're off all day you don't even
1411
01:21:52,670 --> 01:21:55,819
know fence you're even see Brian you
1412
01:21:54,409 --> 01:21:58,159
bring him to school you seen for five
1413
01:21:55,819 --> 01:21:59,509
minutes and you go I'm working 14 hours
1414
01:21:58,159 --> 01:22:01,369
and then I'm going over there and I'm
1415
01:21:59,510 --> 01:22:02,539
doing things like I don't understand
1416
01:22:01,369 --> 01:22:04,239
what you're doing to me like while
1417
01:22:02,539 --> 01:22:07,399
you're getting crazy you're off all day
1418
01:22:04,239 --> 01:22:08,899
it's driving me insane so I told him if
1419
01:22:07,399 --> 01:22:10,129
it's nonsense to us you're gonna go back
1420
01:22:08,899 --> 01:22:11,000
here and work that work during the day
1421
01:22:10,130 --> 01:22:13,039
you're gonna find out what a real
1422
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:15,020
working parent feels like I said because
1423
01:22:13,039 --> 01:22:17,210
you haven't made right now and he's
1424
01:22:15,020 --> 01:22:19,960
driving and everyone is like waiting to
1425
01:22:17,210 --> 01:22:19,960
put their foot down Bo
1426
01:22:30,109 --> 01:22:34,649
like he doesn't realize how he comes off
1427
01:22:32,460 --> 01:22:36,180
sometimes like he'll be like Brian I'll
1428
01:22:34,649 --> 01:22:39,089
be looking somethings like clean it up
1429
01:22:36,180 --> 01:22:41,909
come on let's go and bright and he's
1430
01:22:39,090 --> 01:22:43,980
looking to picture mommy and Aaron and
1431
01:22:41,909 --> 01:22:46,260
he's and yeah yeah yeah yeah you're
1432
01:22:43,979 --> 01:22:47,579
right I miss them to go Bella but I said
1433
01:22:46,260 --> 01:22:49,590
you don't notice how you sound
1434
01:22:47,579 --> 01:22:51,600
you don't sound like oh the truck ride I
1435
01:22:49,590 --> 01:22:53,340
know you missed them on Bulova he said
1436
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:54,690
what does not even bring him back here -
1437
01:22:53,340 --> 01:23:00,329
no this is life this is the way life is
1438
01:22:54,689 --> 01:23:03,239
now okay but she can cry you can cry we
1439
01:23:00,329 --> 01:23:06,590
can all try what is that gonna do well
1440
01:23:03,239 --> 01:23:06,590
let me you said
1441
01:23:09,670 --> 01:23:15,369
but the only positive thing is that we
1442
01:23:11,529 --> 01:23:17,519
got Brian in therapy because Brian was
1443
01:23:15,369 --> 01:23:21,130
having very bad meltdown the last month
1444
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:23,500
extremely bit about mommy and he doesn't
1445
01:23:21,130 --> 01:23:24,970
want to hear it Dani but I spoke to the
1446
01:23:23,500 --> 01:23:27,819
pediatrician and the pediatrician told
1447
01:23:24,970 --> 01:23:30,960
them you have to get him enrolled so we
1448
01:23:27,819 --> 01:23:30,960
have an appointment tomorrow 10:30
1449
01:23:35,368 --> 01:23:42,628
I told him he has to work on forgiveness
1450
01:23:40,828 --> 01:23:43,648
but Diane because he doesn't have to
1451
01:23:42,628 --> 01:23:45,988
give her at all right now
1452
01:23:43,649 --> 01:23:48,088
for what's happened and reason why
1453
01:23:45,988 --> 01:23:50,848
doesn't forgive her as he said I never
1454
01:23:48,088 --> 01:23:54,359
wanted to have kids and this is where
1455
01:23:50,849 --> 01:23:57,599
I'm left right now and she was supposed
1456
01:23:54,359 --> 01:23:59,939
to do all this I said okay well it's
1457
01:23:57,599 --> 01:24:01,708
already pissed at her you know
1458
01:23:59,939 --> 01:24:01,949
everyone's pissed at her I said that's
1459
01:24:01,708 --> 01:24:04,648
okay
1460
01:24:01,948 --> 01:24:06,418
I simply you got to work through it and
1461
01:24:04,649 --> 01:24:07,139
he's like what's gonna work through this
1462
01:24:06,418 --> 01:24:09,618
is my life
1463
01:24:07,139 --> 01:24:09,618
this is it
1464
01:24:27,590 --> 01:24:33,239
there will never be a concrete answer
1465
01:24:31,380 --> 01:24:37,560
with absolute certainty which can be
1466
01:24:33,239 --> 01:24:41,869
given as to what what happened but to
1467
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:41,870
several you know plausible hypotheses
1468
01:24:43,729 --> 01:24:47,928
is it possible that day in question she
1469
01:24:46,550 --> 01:24:50,380
was in so much pain she wanted
1470
01:24:47,929 --> 01:24:53,359
analgesics gelcaps
1471
01:24:50,380 --> 01:24:55,400
when there wasn't available because she
1472
01:24:53,359 --> 01:24:57,589
have her Nesta ties to physical pain but
1473
01:24:55,399 --> 01:25:01,279
maybe just taking one drink so she could
1474
01:24:57,590 --> 01:25:04,159
we relaxed enough to drive and then she
1475
01:25:01,279 --> 01:25:07,420
lost control and she does perspective as
1476
01:25:04,159 --> 01:25:07,420
to how much she was drinking
1477
01:25:08,130 --> 01:25:12,539
that kind of slippery slope does occur
1478
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:15,060
and people who have a deep pain
1479
01:25:12,539 --> 01:25:16,649
sensitivity we cannot stand feeling
1480
01:25:15,060 --> 01:25:19,260
helpless and who feel they need to be
1481
01:25:16,649 --> 01:25:25,019
perfect and she has had reasons in her
1482
01:25:19,260 --> 01:25:28,860
life for all three did she consume an
1483
01:25:25,020 --> 01:25:32,520
initial small amount in her right mind
1484
01:25:28,859 --> 01:25:33,988
not impaired did she think because the
1485
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:39,290
kids were there did she think she had to
1486
01:25:33,988 --> 01:25:41,399
get in a lot quickly and misjudged and
1487
01:25:39,289 --> 01:25:44,158
in fact shot her blood-alcohol
1488
01:25:41,399 --> 01:25:46,500
concentration up much higher than she
1489
01:25:44,158 --> 01:25:49,529
thought it would and then something
1490
01:25:46,500 --> 01:25:52,349
happened that she then consumed in a way
1491
01:25:49,529 --> 01:25:55,078
that was very dangerous and very unlike
1492
01:25:52,349 --> 01:25:58,409
her you know there was something beyond
1493
01:25:55,078 --> 01:26:01,439
intoxication did she have a florid
1494
01:25:58,408 --> 01:26:07,888
infection going on did she have a fever
1495
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:10,609
that combined with the UM marijuana and
1496
01:26:07,889 --> 01:26:14,510
alcohol could certainly
1497
01:26:10,609 --> 01:26:14,509
precipitate a delirium
1498
01:26:18,060 --> 01:26:24,510
a brain event got triggered where she
1499
01:26:21,329 --> 01:26:25,829
was beyond poor judgment but she was not
1500
01:26:24,510 --> 01:26:37,110
in her right mind that we don't know
1501
01:26:25,829 --> 01:26:39,989
what she was thinking hearing feeling hi
1502
01:26:37,109 --> 01:26:42,479
Tom I do appreciate you calling me back
1503
01:26:39,989 --> 01:26:44,519
I thought always call you back yeah no I
1504
01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:47,009
was um I'm shit you know what Tom I'm
1505
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:48,320
just so like I'm just so upset because I
1506
01:26:47,010 --> 01:26:51,539
don't know what happened
1507
01:26:48,319 --> 01:26:54,389
what what all I know is that when I
1508
01:26:51,539 --> 01:26:57,180
spoke to Therese that she said that we
1509
01:26:54,390 --> 01:26:59,850
needed you to get an approval to say
1510
01:26:57,180 --> 01:27:02,130
that you can release some things listen
1511
01:26:59,850 --> 01:27:04,230
let's put it this way all right as I
1512
01:27:02,130 --> 01:27:07,409
promised Danny we retested at the
1513
01:27:04,229 --> 01:27:09,869
beginning of last year and I devoted my
1514
01:27:07,409 --> 01:27:15,029
time because there was no additional
1515
01:27:09,869 --> 01:27:17,970
monies but I sent the results to them um
1516
01:27:15,029 --> 01:27:22,439
I never even heard back
1517
01:27:17,970 --> 01:27:24,750
and I hope Danny you well I was told I'm
1518
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:27,119
not to pick up because at this point
1519
01:27:24,750 --> 01:27:29,039
they didn't feel they they didn't
1520
01:27:27,119 --> 01:27:30,809
believe that you were doing anything so
1521
01:27:29,039 --> 01:27:36,479
whatever that was that was trying to
1522
01:27:30,810 --> 01:27:37,050
give you the results of the test what to
1523
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:41,579
do anymore
1524
01:27:37,050 --> 01:27:44,760
well we retested the samples and it came
1525
01:27:41,579 --> 01:27:46,640
back the same the toxicology in the
1526
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:50,539
autopsy was correct
1527
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:54,390
can't you see like how confused I am now
1528
01:27:50,539 --> 01:27:57,989
we'll never know if Diane purposely did
1529
01:27:54,390 --> 01:28:00,380
this we'll never know Tom you know I'm
1530
01:27:57,989 --> 01:28:04,529
just like spinning around in circles I
1531
01:28:00,380 --> 01:28:06,239
can understand I got one person saying
1532
01:28:04,529 --> 01:28:08,729
one thing I got another person saying
1533
01:28:06,239 --> 01:28:10,859
another thing and then I do believe that
1534
01:28:08,729 --> 01:28:12,599
Diane wasn't drinking and all I want to
1535
01:28:10,859 --> 01:28:14,849
do is prove that if she if there is
1536
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:17,520
alcohol what happened to her all I can
1537
01:28:14,850 --> 01:28:21,000
tell you is all tested consistent if
1538
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:22,310
Diane had drank and and I that day it's
1539
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:25,489
just great
1540
01:28:22,310 --> 01:28:26,870
no me you tell me listen I've always
1541
01:28:25,489 --> 01:28:29,809
been straight with if you believe me or
1542
01:28:26,869 --> 01:28:31,010
not I can't help that I loose industry
1543
01:28:29,810 --> 01:28:34,090
and always believed you
1544
01:28:31,010 --> 01:28:39,829
well I will tell you one thing further
1545
01:28:34,090 --> 01:28:43,970
DNA was hers so what am I supposed to do
1546
01:28:39,829 --> 01:28:46,960
now - you tell many I'm now I'm
1547
01:28:43,970 --> 01:28:46,960
returning your call
1548
01:29:05,689 --> 01:29:23,599
they police I walk all that stop Yellin
1549
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:30,060
nylon this is our house our city
1550
01:29:27,989 --> 01:29:32,579
military police officers are you out of
1551
01:29:30,060 --> 01:29:35,300
the scene right now just have any
1552
01:29:32,579 --> 01:29:38,880
injuries those we have fatality fatality
1553
01:29:35,300 --> 01:29:45,060
with response pants and the Falls manner
1554
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:49,199
to instill possible
1555
01:29:45,060 --> 01:29:51,480
are we about four or five on to the
1556
01:29:49,199 --> 01:29:53,670
crossfire and a fatality yeah we're here
1557
01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:55,799
psychologies numerous fatalities we
1558
01:29:53,670 --> 01:29:58,170
forget one digit at four point one
1559
01:29:55,800 --> 01:30:02,060
northbound tonic 60 control all right
1560
01:29:58,170 --> 01:30:07,789
Diane Schuler drives against traffic for
1561
01:30:02,060 --> 01:30:10,950
1.7 miles in the fast lane never veers
1562
01:30:07,789 --> 01:30:15,960
seems to have a serene almost oblivious
1563
01:30:10,949 --> 01:30:20,720
look on her face and kills eight people
1564
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:23,489
the worst accident in recent memory
1565
01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:26,369
Diane Schuler hits the Bastardi vehicle
1566
01:30:23,489 --> 01:30:29,039
the Bastardi vehicle Dan crashes into
1567
01:30:26,369 --> 01:30:31,529
vehicle number three and the Schuler
1568
01:30:29,039 --> 01:30:37,729
vehicle goes off the road down the hill
1569
01:30:31,529 --> 01:30:37,729
rotating and eventually begins to burn
1570
01:30:40,279 --> 01:30:44,809
a lady was screaming in Spanish there
1571
01:30:42,380 --> 01:30:47,480
was kids in the car so I went down the
1572
01:30:44,810 --> 01:30:49,010
hill with this other fella and we were
1573
01:30:47,479 --> 01:30:50,689
trying to get the door up the door went
1574
01:30:49,010 --> 01:30:51,949
opened we couldn't get the sliding door
1575
01:30:50,689 --> 01:30:53,750
we were looking for the driver we
1576
01:30:51,948 --> 01:30:57,339
couldn't find her the car was fully
1577
01:30:53,750 --> 01:30:57,340
engulfed in the front
1578
01:31:13,119 --> 01:31:18,640
were the first ones there and we just
1579
01:31:16,180 --> 01:31:19,840
kind of circled the coughing doors he
1580
01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:21,940
checked the other side I checked
1581
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:25,869
driver-side it was locked I went around
1582
01:31:21,939 --> 01:31:30,210
and then ended up breaking the passenger
1583
01:31:25,869 --> 01:31:30,210
side window unlock the door
1584
01:31:31,090 --> 01:31:35,679
we finally got the door oh that guy I
1585
01:31:33,368 --> 01:31:39,118
was with he could open the door and our
1586
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body fell on top of our legs
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but she fell out she like rolled into a
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tool bus that was standing there I
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literally had to step over her to reach
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in for the kids and then we would just
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concentrate on getting the kids out of
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the burning car with it they were piled
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on top of each other one of the thoughts
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handed me the girl
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I laid her down on the grass put my head
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on her chest the era I talked to her I
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prayed it Jesus now help I wake up
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please make her wake up she won't wake
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up
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at 1:30 p.m. I got a phone call from the
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traffic management center traffic was
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completely stopped I had to drive on the
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shoulder of the road to get there when I
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01:32:57,060 --> 01:33:03,920
got to the scene I saw a minivan which
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was burnt in the median down a hill I
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also saw two SUVs northbound on the
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conic State Parkway these vehicles had
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extensive damage to them some of the
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people in the cars got involved and
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actively tried to help some were on the
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phone with 911 and some witches
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screaming the scene was very chaotic
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I proceeded to look for any other signs
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of life from the other victims and I
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immediately noticed a little boy fine
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was hurt he was hurt pretty badly he was
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combative he was crying which is a good
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sign and that's why I immediately put
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him in the first ambulance
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I didn't even know he was there when he
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was underneath everybody thank God he
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was underneath then I went to the top of
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the hill and I lost it started crying
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and I tried to go help the other fellows
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I windows a car crash
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and they were dead I felt all the pulses
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they were dead they were hang one
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thought I was hanging out of the car
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there were some people that did attempt
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to take pictures of the victims which we
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wouldn't allow we put sheets up to
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preserve their dignity it was the only
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thing we could have done at that point
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there was no one would help
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you
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Jackie sent this car to heaven it says
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hi Evan I miss seeing you Brian and your
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mom and whole family Warren and I are
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broken but you need to go and have a
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happy life
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by doing this you will show Brian that
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he can do the same my life ended July 26
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2009 for whatever reason my purpose for
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living was taken when you have children
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one day you will understand you live and
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breathe for your kids
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Lauren is having a hard time all the
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women in his life have left him and he
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won't let me out of his sight I pray all
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pain and soon and I can see my girls
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give Brian a hug and kiss and know that
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you are a great person with a lot to
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give love Jackie
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whatever happened in this tragedy there
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01:36:44,829 --> 01:36:53,800
was no evidence that Diane Schuler was a
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01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:55,840
bad person what evidence we have is that
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she was a very good mom and a very good
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person generally maybe a bit too good a
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01:36:57,909 --> 01:37:02,289
bit of a perfectionist I don't see any
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01:37:01,239 --> 01:37:06,699
evidence that what she did was
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intentional given the fact that she was
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generally someone with very high
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standards for herself was something very
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socially connected she had good
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protective factors so even if she had
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found out some horrible news
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I don't see it likely that she would
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kill herself especially not in the
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manner that this tragedy occurred that's
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how to imagine isn't it that simple
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01:37:30,189 --> 01:37:35,259
coincidences it can be a major tipping
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point it can resolve the major
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catastrophes not something that we all
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built as human beings to be able to live
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with
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gee don't worry
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booster
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you
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you
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you
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you
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