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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:01,486 --> 00:01:04,592 Right now I'd like you to meet a young lady, 2 00:01:04,627 --> 00:01:06,249 a very lovely young lady, 3 00:01:06,284 --> 00:01:08,596 that I really think has what it takes to be around 4 00:01:08,631 --> 00:01:11,254 for a long, long time to come. 5 00:01:11,289 --> 00:01:14,119 I'd like you to meet Ms. Linda Ronstadt. 6 00:01:18,365 --> 00:01:20,505 ♪ Feelin' better ♪ 7 00:01:20,539 --> 00:01:22,645 ♪ Now that we're through ♪ 8 00:01:22,679 --> 00:01:24,509 ♪ Feelin' better ♪ 9 00:01:24,543 --> 00:01:27,167 ♪ 'Cause I'm over you ♪ 10 00:01:27,201 --> 00:01:29,134 ♪ I learned my lesson ♪ 11 00:01:29,169 --> 00:01:31,274 ♪ It left a scar ♪ 12 00:01:31,309 --> 00:01:34,864 ♪ Now I see How you really are ♪ 13 00:01:34,898 --> 00:01:37,211 ♪ You're no good You're no good ♪ 14 00:01:37,246 --> 00:01:41,353 ♪ You're no good Baby, you're no good ♪ 15 00:01:41,836 --> 00:01:43,873 ♪ I'm gonna say it again ♪ 16 00:01:43,907 --> 00:01:46,151 ♪ You're no good You're no good ♪ 17 00:01:46,186 --> 00:01:49,223 ♪ You're no good Baby, you're no good ♪ 18 00:01:49,258 --> 00:01:50,880 Here's a gal who really sings great. 19 00:01:50,914 --> 00:01:53,779 We had her on the show last year and she was sensational. 20 00:01:54,642 --> 00:01:56,817 My first guest occupies a prominent place 21 00:01:56,851 --> 00:01:58,474 in the Top 40 record charts 22 00:01:58,508 --> 00:02:00,200 and she has a big one right now. 23 00:02:00,234 --> 00:02:02,512 Linda Ronstadt is one of the really great talents 24 00:02:02,547 --> 00:02:03,479 in country music. 25 00:02:03,513 --> 00:02:05,688 Would you welcome please Linda Ronstadt. 26 00:02:05,722 --> 00:02:07,448 Ladies and gentlemen, Ms. Linda Ronstadt. 27 00:02:07,483 --> 00:02:10,969 ♪ Now baby and I'm going my way ♪ 28 00:02:11,003 --> 00:02:12,902 ♪ Forget about you, baby ♪ 29 00:02:12,936 --> 00:02:14,869 ♪ 'Cause I'm leavin' To stay ♪ 30 00:02:14,904 --> 00:02:16,216 ♪ You're no good... ♪ 31 00:02:16,250 --> 00:02:19,702 Linda could literally sing anything. 32 00:02:19,736 --> 00:02:21,221 ♪ No good 33 00:02:21,255 --> 00:02:23,913 I don't think anybody has tried more different styles 34 00:02:23,947 --> 00:02:25,915 and nailed it than Linda has. 35 00:02:26,709 --> 00:02:29,919 There's not that many people that can pull off new wave music 36 00:02:29,953 --> 00:02:32,611 and rock and the most beautiful country ballads. 37 00:02:32,646 --> 00:02:34,648 Her range is huge. 38 00:02:35,752 --> 00:02:38,376 She decided what she wanted to do. 39 00:02:39,998 --> 00:02:43,519 More important what she was authentic at doing. 40 00:02:43,726 --> 00:02:45,831 And they always told her no, you can't do this, 41 00:02:45,866 --> 00:02:46,970 you'll ruin your career. 42 00:02:47,005 --> 00:02:48,489 She did it anyway. 43 00:02:48,524 --> 00:02:51,596 ♪ Good ♪ 44 00:03:09,338 --> 00:03:11,719 Someone once asked why people sing. 45 00:03:13,894 --> 00:03:16,276 I answered that they sing for any of the same reasons 46 00:03:16,310 --> 00:03:17,622 birds sing. 47 00:03:19,313 --> 00:03:20,763 They sing for a mate. 48 00:03:22,385 --> 00:03:23,938 To claim their territory. 49 00:03:25,664 --> 00:03:27,804 Or simply to give voice to the delight of being alive 50 00:03:27,839 --> 00:03:29,875 in the midst of a beautiful day. 51 00:03:32,326 --> 00:03:34,915 They sing so the subsequent generations won't forget what 52 00:03:34,949 --> 00:03:38,953 the current generations endured or dreamed or delighted in. 53 00:03:43,026 --> 00:03:45,443 There are a lot of really good singers out in the world. 54 00:03:45,891 --> 00:03:48,031 A lot of better singers than I am. 55 00:03:50,517 --> 00:03:52,967 What I did that was different from other singers, 56 00:03:53,002 --> 00:03:55,487 I did a whole lot of different kinds of material. 57 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,388 People would think that I was trying to reinvent myself 58 00:03:59,422 --> 00:04:01,044 but I never invented myself to start with. 59 00:04:01,079 --> 00:04:03,530 I just kind of popped out into the world. 60 00:04:10,709 --> 00:04:12,470 My mom grew up in Michigan. 61 00:04:14,092 --> 00:04:15,887 Her dad was an inventor. 62 00:04:17,026 --> 00:04:19,028 He was the third to Thomas Edison in the number 63 00:04:19,062 --> 00:04:21,651 of useful inventions in the 50s. 64 00:04:21,686 --> 00:04:26,035 He invented the electric stove, the electric toaster. 65 00:04:28,693 --> 00:04:30,764 The thermostat for Westinghouse. 66 00:04:34,043 --> 00:04:36,045 But my grandmother had Parkinson's disease 67 00:04:36,079 --> 00:04:38,910 and he spent all his money trying to find a cure. 68 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:41,982 And that's what I have now. 69 00:04:45,157 --> 00:04:47,090 My mom was really smart too. 70 00:04:47,436 --> 00:04:49,334 She wanted to study math and physics 71 00:04:49,369 --> 00:04:52,061 and the University of Arizona was really good for that. 72 00:04:52,095 --> 00:04:55,064 She came out to Tucson where she met my father. 73 00:04:56,479 --> 00:04:58,412 My great grandfather Frederick Ronstadt 74 00:04:58,447 --> 00:05:01,104 came from Germany to Mexico in 1839. 75 00:05:01,657 --> 00:05:05,626 My father's father, Frederico, moved to Tucson when he was 14 76 00:05:05,661 --> 00:05:07,421 to work as a wagon maker. 77 00:05:07,801 --> 00:05:09,768 But his true passion was music. 78 00:05:14,463 --> 00:05:17,914 So he started the Club Filharmonico Tucsonense. 79 00:05:18,984 --> 00:05:21,401 He was the one who wrote the arrangements 80 00:05:21,435 --> 00:05:23,713 and taught everybody how to play their instruments. 81 00:05:23,955 --> 00:05:25,646 He was like the Music Man. 82 00:05:26,095 --> 00:05:27,648 If you wanted to serenade your sweetheart, 83 00:05:27,683 --> 00:05:30,064 you'd get my grandfather's band to go. 84 00:05:30,444 --> 00:05:32,584 And if you had a wedding or a funeral, 85 00:05:32,619 --> 00:05:33,999 well, they'd show up for that. 86 00:05:37,209 --> 00:05:40,696 First time my mother ever saw my dad he was riding his horse 87 00:05:40,730 --> 00:05:42,939 up the steps of her sorority house. 88 00:05:45,217 --> 00:05:48,048 My dad had a lovely baritone tenor voice 89 00:05:48,082 --> 00:05:50,084 and knew a lot of beautiful Mexican love songs 90 00:05:50,119 --> 00:05:52,155 that were rooted in his childhood. 91 00:05:54,882 --> 00:05:57,609 He serenaded my mother underneath her balcony. 92 00:06:01,579 --> 00:06:03,684 And she fell big for him. 93 00:06:06,894 --> 00:06:09,483 ♪ I'm a rambler ♪ 94 00:06:10,173 --> 00:06:12,486 ♪ I'm a gambler ♪ 95 00:06:13,176 --> 00:06:19,113 ♪ I'm a long way from home ♪ 96 00:06:19,148 --> 00:06:21,150 ♪ If you people ♪ 97 00:06:22,220 --> 00:06:24,774 ♪ Don't like me ♪ 98 00:06:24,809 --> 00:06:30,849 ♪ You can leave me alone ♪ 99 00:06:31,816 --> 00:06:33,576 I grew up in Tucson 100 00:06:33,611 --> 00:06:36,579 on the last ten acres of my grandfather's cattle ranch. 101 00:06:36,993 --> 00:06:40,480 We were very isolated so if you wanted entertainment 102 00:06:40,514 --> 00:06:42,482 you kind of had to make your own. 103 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,418 There was a lot of music going on in that house. 104 00:06:48,004 --> 00:06:49,696 Some of it came in through the radio. 105 00:06:49,730 --> 00:06:52,077 That was my best friend in the world. 106 00:06:52,699 --> 00:06:54,045 ♪ How's about cooking... ♪ 107 00:06:54,079 --> 00:06:56,737 We had an amazing radio in Tucson 108 00:06:56,772 --> 00:06:58,912 because it was really close to the border. 109 00:07:05,090 --> 00:07:06,782 We could get the Louisiana Hayride. 110 00:07:06,816 --> 00:07:09,647 ♪ Get goin' Louisiana Hayride ♪ 111 00:07:09,681 --> 00:07:12,857 ♪ No use for callin' de roll ♪ 112 00:07:12,891 --> 00:07:14,721 ♪ Can't help... ♪ 113 00:07:14,755 --> 00:07:15,998 American standards. 114 00:07:16,032 --> 00:07:20,105 ♪... loving that man of mine ♪ 115 00:07:20,140 --> 00:07:21,659 But my grandmother and grandfather 116 00:07:21,693 --> 00:07:23,695 were classical music devotees. 117 00:07:29,011 --> 00:07:31,254 So I would go over to their house on Saturday morning 118 00:07:31,289 --> 00:07:35,155 and listen to a live broadcast from the Metropolitan Opera 119 00:07:35,845 --> 00:07:37,916 and come home and my dad would be playing Mexican songs 120 00:07:37,951 --> 00:07:39,884 on the piano. My mom would be playing 121 00:07:39,918 --> 00:07:41,886 some Gilbert and Sullivan piece. 122 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,889 ♪ True peace of mind ♪ 123 00:07:45,096 --> 00:07:46,684 My sister loved Hank Williams. 124 00:07:46,718 --> 00:07:48,617 She loved country music. 125 00:07:48,824 --> 00:07:50,791 ♪ I can't help it ♪ 126 00:07:50,826 --> 00:07:54,899 ♪ If I'm still in love With you ♪ 127 00:07:54,933 --> 00:07:57,557 My brother would be singing really high soprano. 128 00:07:59,282 --> 00:08:03,528 He was in a world-class boys choir and he was their soloist. 129 00:08:03,873 --> 00:08:06,738 She wanted to know how to sing so I taught here. 130 00:08:06,773 --> 00:08:08,671 So she learned about vibrato and all that kind of stuff 131 00:08:08,706 --> 00:08:10,742 when she was like five, six years old. 132 00:08:13,365 --> 00:08:16,058 We learned so much about singing from each other. 133 00:08:16,817 --> 00:08:19,855 It was completely incorporated into what we did. 134 00:08:19,889 --> 00:08:22,651 We sang at the dinner table, we sang in the car, 135 00:08:22,685 --> 00:08:24,825 we sang with our hands in the dishwater. 136 00:08:25,654 --> 00:08:29,140 I thought Spanish was this magical musical language. 137 00:08:31,176 --> 00:08:33,593 When I was growing up I thought people sang in Spanish 138 00:08:33,627 --> 00:08:35,077 and spoke in English. 139 00:08:36,009 --> 00:08:38,287 If you spoke Spanish on the playground you'd be punished. 140 00:08:38,321 --> 00:08:40,151 You weren't allowed to do it. 141 00:08:43,948 --> 00:08:45,570 My sister and brother and I eventually formed 142 00:08:45,605 --> 00:08:46,882 a little group. We called ourselves 143 00:08:46,916 --> 00:08:48,987 The New Union Ramblers. 144 00:08:49,022 --> 00:08:51,127 We thought that sounded folky. 145 00:08:52,128 --> 00:08:55,925 Bobby Kimmel was a guitar player that I met in Tucson. 146 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,169 He wrote songs about his own life. 147 00:08:58,825 --> 00:09:01,275 I remember them being one of the best vocal groups 148 00:09:01,310 --> 00:09:02,863 I had ever heard. 149 00:09:06,142 --> 00:09:08,248 Bobby joined our family group 150 00:09:08,282 --> 00:09:11,596 and then he and I used to play as a duet sometimes. 151 00:09:13,943 --> 00:09:16,221 We played little clubs in Tucson but there wasn't very much 152 00:09:16,256 --> 00:09:18,223 opportunity for us there. 153 00:09:20,812 --> 00:09:24,333 At some point reality stepped in and my sister had three kids. 154 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,268 And then my brother went to work for the police department. 155 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,342 Bobby wanted to earn some money playing music. 156 00:09:34,343 --> 00:09:36,379 So he went off to California. 157 00:09:37,864 --> 00:09:39,866 And I was the last man standing. 158 00:09:41,384 --> 00:09:45,250 ♪ All the leaves are brown 159 00:09:45,699 --> 00:09:49,185 I went to LA with the intention of forming a band. 160 00:09:50,773 --> 00:09:54,915 When I saw the quality of the singers that were out there 161 00:09:54,950 --> 00:09:57,400 I started writing to Linda saying 162 00:09:57,435 --> 00:10:02,405 if you come out we could form a band and get a record deal. 163 00:10:04,235 --> 00:10:06,409 I knew they had more clubs to play in Los Angeles. 164 00:10:06,444 --> 00:10:07,790 ♪ California dreaming 165 00:10:10,655 --> 00:10:12,968 I was telling her this is kind of an iffy thing. 166 00:10:13,002 --> 00:10:14,763 You might starve to death or you might find yourself 167 00:10:14,797 --> 00:10:17,041 washing dishes and waiting tables 168 00:10:17,075 --> 00:10:18,836 before you ever get discovered. 169 00:10:18,870 --> 00:10:20,976 She says I'm willing to take the chance. 170 00:10:22,494 --> 00:10:24,358 I was 18 years old. 171 00:10:25,739 --> 00:10:28,121 We had a house on the beach for 80 bucks a month 172 00:10:28,155 --> 00:10:29,432 in Santa Monica. 173 00:10:29,812 --> 00:10:31,780 We split the rent three ways. 174 00:10:31,814 --> 00:10:34,921 It was just great. It was right on the beach. 175 00:10:38,303 --> 00:10:41,341 Once she got there we got to work right away 176 00:10:41,375 --> 00:10:43,688 and we used to practice every day. 177 00:10:47,416 --> 00:10:49,452 Bobby introduced me to a really good guitar player 178 00:10:49,487 --> 00:10:51,972 named Kenny Edwards and we formed a little band 179 00:10:52,007 --> 00:10:54,078 and we called ourselves The Stone Ponies. 180 00:10:54,112 --> 00:10:56,011 ♪ Look out your window ♪ 181 00:10:56,045 --> 00:10:59,048 ♪ The rain is turning Into snow ♪ 182 00:10:59,946 --> 00:11:01,844 We started playing little beatnik dives 183 00:11:01,879 --> 00:11:04,709 and strange pizza parlors, wherever we could get a job. 184 00:11:04,951 --> 00:11:06,849 ♪ Oh how you love me... ♪ 185 00:11:06,884 --> 00:11:10,266 There was the trip where I heard this band called The Byrds. 186 00:11:10,301 --> 00:11:11,958 They had a light show 187 00:11:11,992 --> 00:11:14,754 and a lot of acid tripping kind of stuff going on. 188 00:11:16,410 --> 00:11:18,309 The Whiskey A Go Go was very rock and roll. 189 00:11:18,343 --> 00:11:20,069 I heard the Doors there and I thought 190 00:11:20,104 --> 00:11:23,003 oh they're be a really hit band if they get rid of their singer. 191 00:11:23,555 --> 00:11:26,317 ♪ Go, love Open up the door... ♪ 192 00:11:27,214 --> 00:11:28,906 There was the Ash Grove. 193 00:11:28,940 --> 00:11:31,460 That was where you go for authentic folk music. 194 00:11:31,909 --> 00:11:33,427 It's where I first heard Ry Cooder. 195 00:11:33,462 --> 00:11:39,157 ♪ Have you seen that vigilante man? ♪ 196 00:11:41,228 --> 00:11:43,472 Ry Cooder was then and now the most amazing guitar player 197 00:11:43,506 --> 00:11:45,094 I've ever heard. 198 00:11:45,129 --> 00:11:47,027 I knew that had good musicians in Los Angeles 199 00:11:47,062 --> 00:11:48,788 but this guy is really something. 200 00:11:48,822 --> 00:11:50,099 I thought I'm staying here. 201 00:11:50,134 --> 00:11:51,998 I'm not going back to Tucson to live. 202 00:11:52,032 --> 00:11:54,759 ♪ All over the land ♪ 203 00:11:59,868 --> 00:12:02,802 She came to Los Angeles at a time 204 00:12:02,836 --> 00:12:06,115 when the LA rock and roll scene was in gear and was going. 205 00:12:06,150 --> 00:12:08,842 Because, see, after The Byrds did their thing 206 00:12:08,877 --> 00:12:10,223 with Mr. Tambourine Man, 207 00:12:10,257 --> 00:12:12,328 then the whole damn thing broke loose 208 00:12:12,363 --> 00:12:14,848 and all the record companies when scurrying around 209 00:12:14,883 --> 00:12:18,852 like headless chickens trying to figure out what to do. 210 00:12:18,887 --> 00:12:20,785 Who can sing folk rock 211 00:12:20,820 --> 00:12:24,824 and how can we define what this thing is going to be? 212 00:12:25,825 --> 00:12:29,863 ♪ Hey Mr. Tambourine Man ♪ 213 00:12:29,898 --> 00:12:31,796 ♪ Play a song for me ♪ 214 00:12:31,831 --> 00:12:33,246 There was a lot of cross pollination 215 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,869 that started happening in the mid-60s, you know, 216 00:12:35,904 --> 00:12:38,941 country music and folk music and rock music started 217 00:12:38,976 --> 00:12:42,911 commingling and blending and you would get all these hybrids. 218 00:12:45,051 --> 00:12:48,226 The Troubadour, just a few blocks from Hollywood Boulevard, 219 00:12:48,261 --> 00:12:50,988 is known as an avant garde cafe. 220 00:12:51,022 --> 00:12:54,301 It's the favorite of Hollywood's young and young at heart. 221 00:12:55,233 --> 00:12:57,304 The Troubadour was where everybody went to hang out 222 00:12:57,339 --> 00:12:58,581 and to be noticed. 223 00:12:58,616 --> 00:13:00,929 You wanted to make yourself known to the record community at 224 00:13:00,963 --> 00:13:04,380 large, you go to the Troubadour, play an open mic night. 225 00:13:05,347 --> 00:13:07,211 I can't even name all the great songwriters 226 00:13:07,245 --> 00:13:08,488 that came through there. 227 00:13:08,522 --> 00:13:11,249 I mean, Laura Nyro, Neil Young, 228 00:13:11,284 --> 00:13:13,251 Joni Mitchell, Tim Hardin, 229 00:13:13,286 --> 00:13:16,841 Kris Kristofferson, Rick Nelson, Elton John, 230 00:13:16,876 --> 00:13:18,291 Jackson Browne. 231 00:13:18,325 --> 00:13:20,465 It was just week after week of amazing, 232 00:13:20,500 --> 00:13:22,467 game-changing songwriters. 233 00:13:22,916 --> 00:13:25,574 ♪ Some of them were dreamers ♪ 234 00:13:27,265 --> 00:13:30,234 ♪ Some of them were fools ♪ 235 00:13:30,993 --> 00:13:33,340 ♪ Who were making plans ♪ 236 00:13:33,375 --> 00:13:36,309 ♪ And thinking of the future ♪ 237 00:13:36,550 --> 00:13:38,898 I mean, you tried to get a gig at the Troubadour. 238 00:13:38,932 --> 00:13:40,900 You wanted to play the Troubadour. 239 00:13:40,934 --> 00:13:43,903 All kinds of industry people hung around in the bar. 240 00:13:44,213 --> 00:13:45,905 The Troubadour is important because 241 00:13:45,939 --> 00:13:47,389 that's where you can get seen. 242 00:13:47,423 --> 00:13:49,046 It was the place to play. 243 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:50,564 Like the minor leagues in baseball. 244 00:13:50,599 --> 00:13:53,395 This was your chance, this was your great chance. 245 00:13:54,465 --> 00:13:56,916 The Troubadour was a bustling place. 246 00:13:56,950 --> 00:14:00,229 They had a hootenanny night where new artists would come 247 00:14:00,264 --> 00:14:03,163 and sing a few songs and I used to go to every hootenanny night 248 00:14:03,198 --> 00:14:05,234 to see if there was anybody really talented. 249 00:14:05,441 --> 00:14:08,030 The Hoot, the Monday night open mic Hootenanny 250 00:14:08,065 --> 00:14:09,998 where you'd wait and get on the list 251 00:14:10,032 --> 00:14:11,654 and you go up there and sing your new song. 252 00:14:27,705 --> 00:14:28,948 You got two or three songs. 253 00:14:28,982 --> 00:14:31,951 If you were no good you probably didn't last the second song 254 00:14:31,985 --> 00:14:34,954 because were, "Hey, get off!" 255 00:14:34,988 --> 00:14:37,128 And maybe not even the first song. 256 00:14:38,267 --> 00:14:44,929 ♪ Oh, you and I, travel to the Beat of a different drum... ♪ 257 00:14:44,964 --> 00:14:46,413 I heard a song called Different Drum 258 00:14:46,448 --> 00:14:48,726 by this bluegrass group called The Greenbriar Boys. 259 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,004 ♪ Every time you make... ♪ 260 00:14:51,039 --> 00:14:52,557 It was written by Mike Nesmith 261 00:14:52,592 --> 00:14:54,628 who was eventually going to join the Monkees. 262 00:14:54,663 --> 00:15:00,013 ♪ You cry and moan And say it will work out ♪ 263 00:15:00,358 --> 00:15:04,155 ♪ But honey child I've got my doubts ♪ 264 00:15:04,190 --> 00:15:07,918 ♪ You can't see the forest For the trees ♪ 265 00:15:09,436 --> 00:15:13,578 ♪ So don't get me wrong It's not that I knock it ♪ 266 00:15:13,613 --> 00:15:16,996 ♪ it's just that I am not In the market ♪ 267 00:15:17,030 --> 00:15:23,347 ♪ For a boy who wants To love only me ♪ 268 00:15:23,588 --> 00:15:25,728 We got an immediate response from managers 269 00:15:25,763 --> 00:15:28,421 and people who were interested in our career. 270 00:15:29,215 --> 00:15:32,356 Herb Cohen was managing Frank Zappa. 271 00:15:32,563 --> 00:15:35,428 We had head that he had been a soldier of fortune. 272 00:15:35,462 --> 00:15:37,464 He was have killed somebody. 273 00:15:37,499 --> 00:15:39,225 He was a badass. 274 00:15:39,259 --> 00:15:42,573 But he was established and he immediately said, 275 00:15:42,607 --> 00:15:44,609 "I can get you a record deal. " 276 00:15:44,644 --> 00:15:50,029 ♪ I believe And I see no sense... ♪ 277 00:15:50,063 --> 00:15:53,584 We recorded a few things, just the tree of us. 278 00:15:53,618 --> 00:15:57,139 Then he took those to the people in power 279 00:15:57,174 --> 00:15:59,970 and said, "I want to record these guys. " 280 00:16:01,523 --> 00:16:03,145 Capitol said okay. 281 00:16:03,180 --> 00:16:05,803 We signed papers and we were off and running. 282 00:16:05,837 --> 00:16:09,324 ♪ Live without me ♪ 283 00:16:11,326 --> 00:16:12,741 So we recorded it with a mandolin 284 00:16:12,775 --> 00:16:15,226 and a couple of acoustic guitars 285 00:16:15,261 --> 00:16:17,159 and the record company didn't like it. 286 00:16:17,194 --> 00:16:20,231 And so they said well come back, we want to recut the song. 287 00:16:20,645 --> 00:16:24,132 Certainly everything changed in the studio. 288 00:16:24,408 --> 00:16:26,030 They had a bunch of strings in there 289 00:16:26,065 --> 00:16:28,136 and it was an orchestra session. I went wait a minute, 290 00:16:28,170 --> 00:16:29,654 this isn't the way I thought about the song. 291 00:16:32,899 --> 00:16:34,625 I said I don't want to put it on the record because 292 00:16:34,659 --> 00:16:36,834 that wasn't the way I'd originally envisioned it. 293 00:16:36,868 --> 00:16:42,253 ♪ You and I count to the beat Of a different drum ♪ 294 00:16:42,288 --> 00:16:46,568 ♪ Oh can't you tell By the way I run ♪ 295 00:16:46,602 --> 00:16:49,709 ♪ Every time You make eyes at me ♪ 296 00:16:49,743 --> 00:16:51,297 It was a good thing they didn't listen to me 297 00:16:51,331 --> 00:16:53,333 because it was a huge hit. 298 00:16:53,368 --> 00:16:55,542 I'm driving down the road, you know, in my car 299 00:16:55,577 --> 00:16:58,373 listening to KTKT radio and all of a sudden 300 00:16:58,407 --> 00:17:00,409 she's singing Different Drum. 301 00:17:00,444 --> 00:17:02,239 I said wait a minute! 302 00:17:04,103 --> 00:17:06,139 I loved her voice from the first time I heard her. 303 00:17:06,174 --> 00:17:07,830 I was a freshman in college. 304 00:17:07,865 --> 00:17:09,798 The Stone Poneys, Different Drum. 305 00:17:09,832 --> 00:17:11,248 Yeah, baby! 306 00:17:11,282 --> 00:17:13,146 It was just like wow! 307 00:17:13,181 --> 00:17:17,357 It was just like to pull back the covering 308 00:17:17,392 --> 00:17:20,705 of a fully developed vocal stylist. 309 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:27,574 ♪ Yes and I ain't sayin' You ain't pretty ♪ 310 00:17:27,609 --> 00:17:31,406 ♪ All I'm sayin' I'm not ready ♪ 311 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,548 Most of the time as a critic you're sitting there saying, 312 00:17:35,582 --> 00:17:38,585 "We don't give the artist a plus for this and a minus for this. 313 00:17:38,620 --> 00:17:41,140 This is kind of good, that's not so good. " 314 00:17:41,174 --> 00:17:43,418 Bang! It was like a home run. 315 00:17:43,452 --> 00:17:45,282 ♪ Goodbye! ♪ 316 00:17:45,316 --> 00:17:46,731 ♪ I believe in a... ♪ 317 00:17:46,766 --> 00:17:49,320 We were out on this tour 318 00:17:49,355 --> 00:17:53,600 and Herby Cohen comes to my hotel room and says, 319 00:17:53,635 --> 00:17:57,466 "I need to tell you that when we get back to LA, 320 00:17:57,501 --> 00:17:59,468 the band is breaking up. " 321 00:17:59,503 --> 00:18:02,402 Everybody said, "I don't know about you two guys 322 00:18:02,437 --> 00:18:04,542 but we want the girl singer. " 323 00:18:05,888 --> 00:18:09,168 The record company wanted to develop me as a solo artist. 324 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,379 Kenny decided to go off to India and find a guru and meditate. 325 00:18:13,413 --> 00:18:16,830 And Bobby started a folk club in LA called McCabe's. 326 00:18:17,486 --> 00:18:19,833 And I was left with what in the world to sing. 327 00:18:19,868 --> 00:18:21,318 I was by myself. 328 00:18:21,352 --> 00:18:23,665 A harmony singer with no material. 329 00:18:24,217 --> 00:18:26,944 The remarkable thing about the Stone Poney days was 330 00:18:26,978 --> 00:18:29,878 she had the nerve to leave a male band 331 00:18:29,912 --> 00:18:32,846 after it had already had a hit and go on her own. 332 00:18:32,881 --> 00:18:34,883 Will you welcome please Ms. Linda Ronstadt? 333 00:18:36,850 --> 00:18:39,439 Ronstadt, Ronstadt. 334 00:18:39,474 --> 00:18:42,304 Did anyone ever suggest that that isn't the most musical name 335 00:18:42,339 --> 00:18:43,478 in the world. 336 00:18:43,512 --> 00:18:46,929 That maybe you should change it to Linda Marlow or... 337 00:18:46,964 --> 00:18:47,965 Is there a Linda Marlow? 338 00:18:47,999 --> 00:18:51,382 And once they learn how to pronounce my name, 339 00:18:51,417 --> 00:18:53,695 that leads to free-for-all kinds of variations. 340 00:18:53,729 --> 00:18:56,456 Glenn Campbell once called me Linda Bedstead. 341 00:18:56,491 --> 00:18:58,493 You know, I remember you when you were nothing 342 00:18:58,527 --> 00:19:00,253 but a little Stone Poney. 343 00:19:00,288 --> 00:19:01,496 Oh yeah? 344 00:19:01,530 --> 00:19:02,980 I didn't have any idea what that means. 345 00:19:03,014 --> 00:19:06,363 I know that you were part of a group, right? 346 00:19:06,397 --> 00:19:08,192 Let's see, how do I explain this on television 347 00:19:08,227 --> 00:19:09,469 and not get yelled at. 348 00:19:09,504 --> 00:19:10,919 Oh, then maybe you don't. 349 00:19:12,300 --> 00:19:13,887 - I think I don't. - Oh, yeah? 350 00:19:13,922 --> 00:19:15,751 Oh, is it an inside meaning? 351 00:19:15,786 --> 00:19:18,547 Yeah, it has a lot of different... 352 00:19:18,582 --> 00:19:21,274 ♪ Love will abide ♪ 353 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,314 ♪ Take things in stride ♪ 354 00:19:28,937 --> 00:19:32,803 ♪ Sounds like good advice ♪ 355 00:19:32,837 --> 00:19:37,256 ♪ But there's no one At my side ♪ 356 00:19:37,290 --> 00:19:42,364 ♪ And time washes clean ♪ 357 00:19:44,539 --> 00:19:47,611 ♪ Love's wounds unseen ♪ 358 00:19:50,510 --> 00:19:54,238 ♪ That's what someone Told me ♪ 359 00:19:54,273 --> 00:19:58,484 ♪ But I don't know What it means ♪ 360 00:19:58,518 --> 00:20:01,728 ♪ 'Cause I've ♪ 361 00:20:01,763 --> 00:20:05,525 ♪ Done everything I know ♪ 362 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,253 ♪ To try to make you mine ♪ 363 00:20:09,943 --> 00:20:14,776 ♪ And I think it's gonna Hurt me ♪ 364 00:20:15,397 --> 00:20:20,022 ♪ For a long, long time ♪ 365 00:20:20,575 --> 00:20:25,787 ♪ But I've done Everything I know ♪ 366 00:20:26,512 --> 00:20:30,930 ♪ To try to make you mine ♪ 367 00:20:31,551 --> 00:20:35,831 ♪ Think I'm gonna Love you ♪ 368 00:20:36,522 --> 00:20:41,561 ♪ For a long, long time ♪ 369 00:20:42,562 --> 00:20:44,081 I met her in the Troubadour. 370 00:20:44,115 --> 00:20:46,946 She had this hit called Long, Long Time. 371 00:20:49,535 --> 00:20:51,053 Apparently she knew who I was 372 00:20:51,088 --> 00:20:53,918 based on a record I'd made with Ricky Nelson. 373 00:20:56,956 --> 00:21:00,649 She said I like that band you put together for Rick Nelson. 374 00:21:00,684 --> 00:21:02,410 Could you do that for me? 375 00:21:02,755 --> 00:21:05,344 ♪ She's got everything She needs ♪ 376 00:21:05,378 --> 00:21:06,897 ♪ She's an artist ♪ 377 00:21:06,931 --> 00:21:09,658 ♪ She don't look back ♪ 378 00:21:10,521 --> 00:21:12,972 Herby Cohen was the manager when I met her. 379 00:21:13,006 --> 00:21:14,939 He gave me these tickets to Hawaii 380 00:21:14,974 --> 00:21:17,390 for the Capitol Records convention. 381 00:21:17,425 --> 00:21:19,772 Linda and I show up at San Francisco Airport 382 00:21:19,806 --> 00:21:23,776 to fly to Honolulu and lo and behold there was the FBI 383 00:21:23,810 --> 00:21:26,848 to arrest us for receiving stolen property. 384 00:21:26,882 --> 00:21:29,851 Turns out Herby had bought the tickets in the lobby 385 00:21:29,885 --> 00:21:31,956 of the building from some guy 386 00:21:31,991 --> 00:21:34,856 probably for 25 cents on the dollar 387 00:21:34,890 --> 00:21:36,927 and they were hotter than a two-dollar pistol. 388 00:21:36,961 --> 00:21:40,448 So we spent the day in jail. 389 00:21:42,829 --> 00:21:45,798 She fired Herbie and asked me to fill in. 390 00:21:45,832 --> 00:21:50,112 ♪ I don't want Your lonely mansion ♪ 391 00:21:50,147 --> 00:21:51,942 I was walking through the Troubadour one night 392 00:21:51,976 --> 00:21:53,806 on my way to the bathroom. 393 00:21:55,394 --> 00:21:58,397 This band Shiloh got up and did my exact version 394 00:21:58,431 --> 00:22:00,157 of Silver Threads and Golden Needles. 395 00:22:00,191 --> 00:22:03,678 ♪ Silver Threads And Golden Needles ♪ 396 00:22:03,712 --> 00:22:04,886 I just went, "What?" 397 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,991 Does, you know, that solo, I thought, God! 398 00:22:07,026 --> 00:22:09,028 I was appalled that anyone would actually sit down 399 00:22:09,062 --> 00:22:12,963 with one of my records and learn the solo off it 400 00:22:12,997 --> 00:22:15,206 like a Led Zeppelin record. 401 00:22:15,241 --> 00:22:17,864 And I heard the drummer and I thought he was really good. 402 00:22:17,899 --> 00:22:20,419 The drummer was a guy named Don Henley. 403 00:22:20,798 --> 00:22:24,077 Linda's first solo album came out in '69 404 00:22:24,112 --> 00:22:27,598 and I moved to LA in June of 1970. 405 00:22:28,116 --> 00:22:30,739 So my timing was pretty good. 406 00:22:31,015 --> 00:22:33,086 She'd had a bunch of dates back East 407 00:22:33,121 --> 00:22:35,434 and we needed to put the band together quickly. 408 00:22:35,468 --> 00:22:38,368 So I hired him for $250 a week. 409 00:22:45,582 --> 00:22:47,411 ♪ Rescue me ♪ 410 00:22:47,446 --> 00:22:49,033 ♪ I want you in my arms ♪ 411 00:22:49,068 --> 00:22:50,932 ♪ Rescue me ♪ 412 00:22:50,966 --> 00:22:52,796 ♪ I need your tender charm ♪ 413 00:22:52,830 --> 00:22:54,660 ♪ 'Cause I'm lonely ♪ 414 00:22:54,694 --> 00:22:56,800 I knew who she was because I had her album. 415 00:22:57,214 --> 00:22:59,665 I listened to that album a hundred times. 416 00:23:01,149 --> 00:23:04,670 She could seem vulnerable and very feminine 417 00:23:04,704 --> 00:23:08,743 but when she opened her mouth to sing everything got different. 418 00:23:08,777 --> 00:23:11,021 It was just incredible. 419 00:23:12,022 --> 00:23:15,232 You knew that there was a very solid core 420 00:23:15,266 --> 00:23:17,234 and a very determined woman. 421 00:23:27,969 --> 00:23:29,902 Just saw her walking past me in the Troubadour 422 00:23:29,936 --> 00:23:31,006 and she looked so cute. 423 00:23:31,041 --> 00:23:32,491 I just grabbed her by the hand 424 00:23:32,525 --> 00:23:34,424 and I said I think you should cook me dinner. 425 00:23:35,252 --> 00:23:37,737 And she said okay and gave me her phone number. 426 00:23:38,082 --> 00:23:40,257 So I called her a couple days 427 00:23:40,291 --> 00:23:41,948 and I said, "Well, you gonna cook me dinner?" 428 00:23:41,983 --> 00:23:43,881 She goes, "Sure, come on over. " I came on over 429 00:23:43,916 --> 00:23:46,574 and she made me a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. 430 00:23:47,506 --> 00:23:49,542 And I fell in love with her. 431 00:23:49,577 --> 00:23:51,579 Took her home and the next day I said, 432 00:23:51,613 --> 00:23:52,925 "Listen, let's go get your stuff. 433 00:23:52,959 --> 00:23:54,271 You can live here with me. " 434 00:23:54,305 --> 00:23:57,619 ♪ I got a feeling called The blues, oh Lord ♪ 435 00:23:57,654 --> 00:24:00,277 ♪ Since my baby Said goodbye ♪ 436 00:24:00,311 --> 00:24:02,935 John David Souther and Linda Ronstadt. 437 00:24:02,969 --> 00:24:04,177 They were a hot couple. 438 00:24:04,212 --> 00:24:07,111 ♪ All I do is sit and cry Oh Lord ♪ 439 00:24:07,146 --> 00:24:10,252 ♪ That last long day he said goodbye ♪ 440 00:24:10,287 --> 00:24:13,635 JD had had a musical duo with a guy named Glenn Frey. 441 00:24:16,776 --> 00:24:19,883 He was by best friend and first songwriting partner. 442 00:24:21,678 --> 00:24:24,266 We really did nothing but just listen to music and play guitars 443 00:24:24,301 --> 00:24:27,615 and try to write songs and then go to the Troubadour. 444 00:24:29,306 --> 00:24:31,688 Glenn Frey played pretty good guitar. 445 00:24:31,998 --> 00:24:33,517 So I went and talked to Glenn and said, 446 00:24:33,552 --> 00:24:35,277 "Do you want to do this tour with me?" 447 00:24:35,312 --> 00:24:37,141 He said it would be really cool. 448 00:24:37,176 --> 00:24:39,558 He'd never been on the road before. 449 00:24:40,593 --> 00:24:43,216 Glenn Frey and I shared the $12 hotel room 450 00:24:43,251 --> 00:24:45,115 with two twin beds in it. 451 00:24:45,356 --> 00:24:47,048 It was a very modest tour. 452 00:24:47,082 --> 00:24:49,050 I mean, I remember being in station wagons. 453 00:24:51,811 --> 00:24:54,193 Rooming together, Don and Glenn each discovered 454 00:24:54,227 --> 00:24:56,782 that the other was a good singer and songwriter. 455 00:24:58,197 --> 00:25:01,959 And that's when they decided to get together and form a band. 456 00:25:02,339 --> 00:25:04,617 That band became the Eagles. 457 00:25:07,344 --> 00:25:08,828 They wished us well. 458 00:25:08,863 --> 00:25:12,211 John was very supportive, Linda was supportive 459 00:25:12,245 --> 00:25:14,869 and they basically said just go for it. 460 00:25:17,837 --> 00:25:20,012 We didn't have much success with Desperado. 461 00:25:20,046 --> 00:25:23,084 The record company didn't know what to do with it. 462 00:25:23,118 --> 00:25:25,535 And then Linda made it into a classic. 463 00:25:26,087 --> 00:25:29,573 ♪ Desperado ♪ 464 00:25:30,125 --> 00:25:34,992 ♪ Why don't you come To your senses ♪ 465 00:25:35,027 --> 00:25:39,341 ♪ Come down From your fences ♪ 466 00:25:39,376 --> 00:25:43,138 ♪ And open the gate ♪ 467 00:25:43,173 --> 00:25:45,555 ♪ It may be raining ♪ 468 00:25:46,763 --> 00:25:50,905 ♪ But there's a rainbow Above you ♪ 469 00:25:51,284 --> 00:25:55,703 ♪ You better let somebody Love you ♪ 470 00:25:59,983 --> 00:26:05,022 ♪ Let somebody love you ♪ 471 00:26:06,437 --> 00:26:11,097 ♪ Before it is too ♪ 472 00:26:12,892 --> 00:26:16,206 ♪ Late ♪ 473 00:26:42,301 --> 00:26:44,061 I knew the Neil Young tour was coming 474 00:26:44,096 --> 00:26:46,236 and I thought this'll be perfect for Linda 475 00:26:46,270 --> 00:26:50,136 because she had sung backup on his big hit "Heart of Gold. " 476 00:26:50,171 --> 00:26:53,105 So I called Neil's manager and I said, 477 00:26:53,139 --> 00:26:55,797 "Listen, Linda's the right opening act for this. 478 00:26:55,832 --> 00:26:57,143 You've got to help me out. " 479 00:26:57,178 --> 00:26:59,387 And they said, "Well, Neil's gonna go out alone. " 480 00:27:00,319 --> 00:27:02,804 ♪ I want to live ♪ 481 00:27:03,115 --> 00:27:05,669 ♪ I want to give ♪ 482 00:27:05,704 --> 00:27:09,052 Lo and behold like a week later he called me and he said, 483 00:27:09,086 --> 00:27:11,088 "Neil's done a few dates in Canada 484 00:27:11,123 --> 00:27:13,056 and it's getting him too tired. 485 00:27:13,090 --> 00:27:15,368 He now wants an opening act and you're it. 486 00:27:15,403 --> 00:27:17,888 ♪ I never give... ♪ 487 00:27:19,027 --> 00:27:21,029 Linda was quite reluctant at the time. 488 00:27:21,064 --> 00:27:23,998 She was so worried about the idea of playing a huge 489 00:27:24,032 --> 00:27:27,139 hockey arena tour at that point in her career. 490 00:27:27,173 --> 00:27:30,383 But we persuaded her that this would be a good thing. 491 00:27:33,835 --> 00:27:35,112 Thank you! 492 00:27:35,975 --> 00:27:39,289 You would occasionally get somebody: "We want Neil!" 493 00:27:39,323 --> 00:27:43,465 But by the time the tour got going, she was holding her own. 494 00:27:43,811 --> 00:27:46,986 ♪ I've been cheated ♪ 495 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,714 ♪ Been mistreated ♪ 496 00:27:51,163 --> 00:27:56,340 ♪ When will I be loved? ♪ 497 00:27:58,515 --> 00:28:01,691 ♪ I've been put down ♪ 498 00:28:02,174 --> 00:28:05,315 ♪ I've been pushed 'round ♪ 499 00:28:05,902 --> 00:28:11,010 ♪ When will I be loved? ♪ 500 00:28:13,357 --> 00:28:16,188 ♪ When I find a new man ♪ 501 00:28:16,947 --> 00:28:19,467 ♪ That I want for mine ♪ 502 00:28:20,468 --> 00:28:23,954 ♪ Always breaks my heart In two ♪ 503 00:28:23,989 --> 00:28:28,959 ♪ It happens every time ♪ 504 00:28:30,064 --> 00:28:31,893 ♪ I've been... ♪ 505 00:28:31,928 --> 00:28:35,172 Here's Linda who I'd never seen live before, 506 00:28:35,207 --> 00:28:38,762 big stage, sold out, huge place. 507 00:28:38,969 --> 00:28:43,215 She comes out there and starts singing and that voice filled 508 00:28:43,249 --> 00:28:46,805 this arena where I had seen concerts for a long time. 509 00:28:46,839 --> 00:28:49,462 Nobody filled this arena with a voice like Linda Ronstadt. 510 00:28:49,497 --> 00:28:51,810 And she just killed it. 511 00:28:51,844 --> 00:28:56,159 She slaughtered this crowd who didn't come to see her 512 00:28:56,193 --> 00:28:58,264 but they sure left knowing who she was. 513 00:29:00,922 --> 00:29:03,787 We did 78 dates in 90 days. 514 00:29:04,063 --> 00:29:07,480 We played before 18,000 to 20,000 people every night. 515 00:29:11,036 --> 00:29:13,866 We got to Houston and there was this new girl singer. 516 00:29:13,901 --> 00:29:15,178 Her name's Emmylou. 517 00:29:16,593 --> 00:29:20,114 It was 1973 during the one tour I did with Gram. 518 00:29:20,597 --> 00:29:24,497 ♪ Call happy calling Children are calling ♪ 519 00:29:24,532 --> 00:29:28,191 ♪ In line to ride On the merry-go-round ♪ 520 00:29:28,225 --> 00:29:29,986 Emmy started singing and three notes 521 00:29:30,020 --> 00:29:31,953 the entire place was dead quiet. 522 00:29:31,988 --> 00:29:34,438 It was like they had started mass or something. 523 00:29:35,508 --> 00:29:37,579 And she was beautiful, this girl with the long hair 524 00:29:37,614 --> 00:29:39,374 and big brown eyes and I thought 525 00:29:39,409 --> 00:29:41,998 she's doing exactly what I'm doing. 526 00:29:42,032 --> 00:29:43,447 She's doing it better. 527 00:29:43,482 --> 00:29:46,002 ♪ Do not worry How it's done... ♪ 528 00:29:46,036 --> 00:29:48,487 And for a minute I thought well I can get jealous 529 00:29:48,521 --> 00:29:50,903 and then I won't be able to enjoy her singing. 530 00:29:51,214 --> 00:29:53,216 Or I can just become a slobbering, drooling fan 531 00:29:53,250 --> 00:29:55,287 like the rest of the people in the club. 532 00:29:55,321 --> 00:29:58,014 And hope that maybe I could get her to sing with me. 533 00:29:58,048 --> 00:30:01,258 So I chose the latter as one of the best decisions I ever made. 534 00:30:01,293 --> 00:30:04,986 And Emmy and I became immediate music and social friends. 535 00:30:07,437 --> 00:30:12,338 Linda had a lot to do with lifting me up 536 00:30:12,373 --> 00:30:14,927 at a very, very low time in my life. 537 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,967 I had been kind of my way working with Gram Parsons. 538 00:30:20,001 --> 00:30:22,245 I thought I'd found my voice, 539 00:30:22,279 --> 00:30:25,144 I had found something I love to do singing with him. 540 00:30:25,179 --> 00:30:27,250 ♪ Love hurts ♪ 541 00:30:28,458 --> 00:30:31,150 ♪ Love scars ♪ 542 00:30:32,255 --> 00:30:34,084 On the road to getting himself straight 543 00:30:34,119 --> 00:30:37,674 he was drinking a lot less, he was loving the work, 544 00:30:37,708 --> 00:30:41,195 we loved singing together, we had a record we'd just made, 545 00:30:41,229 --> 00:30:45,475 and apparently someone showed up with heroin 546 00:30:45,509 --> 00:30:50,169 which he hadn't done in a while and it killed him. 547 00:30:51,067 --> 00:30:54,380 It was devastating to lose him like that. 548 00:30:55,968 --> 00:31:00,076 It was Linda who stepped up as a friend 549 00:31:00,110 --> 00:31:02,181 and we had just met each other. 550 00:31:02,216 --> 00:31:06,565 She brought me out to LA, had me stay at her house 551 00:31:06,599 --> 00:31:08,739 and she talked about me to everybody. 552 00:31:08,774 --> 00:31:13,020 Said how great I was and genuinely loved my singing. 553 00:31:13,054 --> 00:31:17,645 Genuinely made me feel like I had something to offer 554 00:31:17,679 --> 00:31:21,407 at a very low time in my life. 555 00:31:22,408 --> 00:31:24,548 ♪ Love hurts ♪ 556 00:31:26,654 --> 00:31:28,690 ♪ Save me ♪ 557 00:31:29,484 --> 00:31:32,315 ♪ Free me ♪ 558 00:31:32,349 --> 00:31:35,318 ♪ From love ♪ 559 00:31:35,663 --> 00:31:37,941 ♪ This time ♪ 560 00:31:40,047 --> 00:31:44,223 ♪ Well the train's gone ♪ 561 00:31:44,603 --> 00:31:47,778 ♪ Down the track ♪ 562 00:31:47,813 --> 00:31:53,646 ♪ and I'm I'm left behind ♪ 563 00:31:56,201 --> 00:31:59,756 Linda was always very tight with her girlfriends. 564 00:31:59,790 --> 00:32:02,207 They sang together, they shared music together, she was 565 00:32:02,241 --> 00:32:04,140 supportive of me. 566 00:32:04,416 --> 00:32:09,145 I was writing songs and hoping to make my own record 567 00:32:09,179 --> 00:32:12,596 but of course Linda was really coming into her own 568 00:32:12,631 --> 00:32:15,254 and starting to be really successful. 569 00:32:17,222 --> 00:32:19,431 I think a songwriter doing their songs is different 570 00:32:19,465 --> 00:32:21,640 than a singer do their songs. 571 00:32:21,674 --> 00:32:24,367 Some people prefer the songwriter doing them, some 572 00:32:24,401 --> 00:32:27,163 people prefer Linda doing them. 573 00:32:27,404 --> 00:32:28,785 But "Lose Again" she definitely made 574 00:32:28,819 --> 00:32:30,683 into a bigger song. 575 00:32:32,409 --> 00:32:35,343 ♪ But nothing can save me ♪ 576 00:32:35,378 --> 00:32:37,449 ♪ From this b=Ball and chain ♪ 577 00:32:37,483 --> 00:32:38,968 Because I couldn't sing it like that. 578 00:32:39,002 --> 00:32:40,314 ♪ I made up my mind ♪ 579 00:32:41,660 --> 00:32:46,182 ♪ I would leave today ♪ 580 00:32:47,079 --> 00:32:50,600 I mean Linda came out and turned it into this power ballad. 581 00:32:51,049 --> 00:32:53,327 ♪ I know it's insane ♪ 582 00:32:53,568 --> 00:32:55,777 ♪ Because I love you ♪ 583 00:32:55,812 --> 00:33:00,196 ♪ And lose again ♪ 584 00:33:00,679 --> 00:33:04,096 ♪ Oh, I love you ♪ 585 00:33:04,131 --> 00:33:09,136 ♪ And lose again ♪ 586 00:33:16,660 --> 00:33:19,801 Back then there wasn't competition with women. 587 00:33:19,836 --> 00:33:21,527 So I think, you know, women, 588 00:33:21,562 --> 00:33:23,219 there weren't that many of us either. 589 00:33:23,253 --> 00:33:26,463 So I think there was a certain amount of banding together 590 00:33:26,498 --> 00:33:29,087 to sort of share our woman part of it. 591 00:33:29,121 --> 00:33:31,020 This is a song off our new album. 592 00:33:32,538 --> 00:33:35,265 It's about a real special place called home. 593 00:33:36,404 --> 00:33:38,337 That's a Karla Bonoff song. 594 00:33:39,269 --> 00:33:42,479 I had made a demo of Home and we sent it off to Bonnie, 595 00:33:42,514 --> 00:33:45,758 just a complete long shot, and she decided to record it. 596 00:33:46,104 --> 00:33:48,485 ♪ Traveling at night ♪ 597 00:33:49,383 --> 00:33:51,868 ♪ The headlights Were bright ♪ 598 00:33:51,902 --> 00:33:55,837 ♪ And soon the sun came through the trees ♪ 599 00:33:57,874 --> 00:34:00,808 ♪ Around the next bend ♪ 600 00:34:00,842 --> 00:34:03,845 ♪ The flowers will send ♪ 601 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:08,367 ♪ The sweet smell of home In the breeze ♪ 602 00:34:08,402 --> 00:34:11,370 Linda and I are like sisters, around the same age 603 00:34:11,405 --> 00:34:13,372 and we were coming up and had the same mutual 604 00:34:13,407 --> 00:34:15,271 other musician friends and band members 605 00:34:15,305 --> 00:34:18,826 and, you know, it was a community of artists, 606 00:34:18,860 --> 00:34:22,519 it wasn't sexually divided between just the women and men. 607 00:34:22,554 --> 00:34:24,349 We weren't thinking in terms of that. 608 00:34:25,419 --> 00:34:28,629 Linda and Bonnie Raitt were two of the first women 609 00:34:28,663 --> 00:34:31,701 that I was able to see as a young journalist 610 00:34:31,735 --> 00:34:34,704 and study the way they operated in this community. 611 00:34:35,256 --> 00:34:37,534 We're going to move into this world where we're running bands 612 00:34:37,569 --> 00:34:40,848 with guys in them but we can also look after each other. 613 00:34:41,883 --> 00:34:45,197 I said if I can have it on my terms and you understand 614 00:34:45,232 --> 00:34:49,201 I'm not going to be told how to dress or what music to make. 615 00:34:49,236 --> 00:34:50,478 Great! 616 00:34:50,513 --> 00:34:53,378 We were all throwing away all those conventions, you know. 617 00:34:55,345 --> 00:34:58,210 The rock and roll culture is so male dominated and it also seems 618 00:34:58,245 --> 00:35:01,627 to be dominated by sort of hostility against women. 619 00:35:01,662 --> 00:35:03,629 That this sort of... 620 00:35:05,390 --> 00:35:10,533 sort of sexual identity that is sort of used as a weapon 621 00:35:10,567 --> 00:35:12,707 against the populace and women in particular 622 00:35:12,742 --> 00:35:14,675 and then everyone identifies with it. 623 00:35:14,916 --> 00:35:17,781 And it's sort of sad to me because what happens is that... 624 00:35:19,576 --> 00:35:24,202 is that rock and roll stars end up isolating themselves 625 00:35:24,236 --> 00:35:26,894 more and more and more, thereby increasing their own feelings of 626 00:35:26,928 --> 00:35:30,518 alienation and anxiety and they wonder why they're so miserable. 627 00:35:30,553 --> 00:35:34,281 That's really when they turn to drugs and destroy themselves. 628 00:35:34,315 --> 00:35:36,800 It's just very silly. It just seems very silly. 629 00:35:36,835 --> 00:35:43,290 They lose the ability to focus on themselves as a person 630 00:35:43,324 --> 00:35:47,673 rather than as an image and that's very dangerous I think. 631 00:35:47,708 --> 00:35:50,504 And there are always a lot of people around them, 632 00:35:50,538 --> 00:35:55,267 managers and scene makers, you know, groupies and whatever, 633 00:35:55,302 --> 00:35:58,236 that are willing to indulge them in anything they want. 634 00:35:58,270 --> 00:36:01,894 It weakens them, it weakens them as people 635 00:36:01,929 --> 00:36:04,173 and it eventually weakens them as musicians. 636 00:36:07,590 --> 00:36:09,833 ♪ I been warped By the rain ♪ 637 00:36:09,868 --> 00:36:11,490 ♪ Driven by the snow ♪ 638 00:36:11,525 --> 00:36:13,492 ♪ I'm drunk and dirty ♪ 639 00:36:13,527 --> 00:36:14,804 ♪ Don't you know ♪ 640 00:36:14,838 --> 00:36:16,633 ♪ But I'm still ♪ 641 00:36:18,566 --> 00:36:20,258 ♪ Willin' ♪ 642 00:36:22,329 --> 00:36:25,435 ♪ Out on the road Late last night ♪ 643 00:36:25,470 --> 00:36:29,508 ♪ I'd see my pretty Alice in every headlight ♪ 644 00:36:29,543 --> 00:36:31,303 ♪ Alice ♪ 645 00:36:31,890 --> 00:36:34,375 ♪ Dallas Alice ♪ 646 00:36:34,996 --> 00:36:38,966 ♪ And I've been from Tucson to Tucumcari ♪ 647 00:36:39,725 --> 00:36:42,832 ♪ Tehachapi to Tonopah ♪ 648 00:36:42,866 --> 00:36:47,526 ♪ Driven every kind of rig that's ever been made ♪ 649 00:36:47,871 --> 00:36:50,667 I was in New York and somebody said 650 00:36:50,702 --> 00:36:52,842 you have to go see this girl, she's amazing. 651 00:36:52,876 --> 00:36:55,258 She's one of the best singers you'll ever hear, 652 00:36:55,293 --> 00:36:56,673 she's brilliant. 653 00:36:57,364 --> 00:37:00,298 She's incredibly great looking, she sings barefoot 654 00:37:00,332 --> 00:37:03,749 and will knock you out in every respect and she did. 655 00:37:04,405 --> 00:37:10,480 ♪ Whites and wine ♪ 656 00:37:11,516 --> 00:37:14,519 ♪ And you show me a sign ♪ 657 00:37:15,036 --> 00:37:16,762 ♪ And I'll be willin' ♪ 658 00:37:16,797 --> 00:37:19,317 I was running the Beatles record label Apple. 659 00:37:19,351 --> 00:37:21,871 When Apple started to fall apart and the Beatles were breaking up 660 00:37:21,905 --> 00:37:24,977 and all of that I went to America 661 00:37:25,012 --> 00:37:26,876 and there I was being a manager. 662 00:37:28,118 --> 00:37:30,845 I wanted to go back to work as a record producer 663 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,296 so I suggested Linda go and meet with Peter 664 00:37:33,331 --> 00:37:36,057 which we did and he agreed to manage her. 665 00:37:37,887 --> 00:37:39,337 There was a high bar there. 666 00:37:39,371 --> 00:37:40,890 Peter Asher had hung around with the Beatles. 667 00:37:40,924 --> 00:37:44,307 He expected to make records that are huge successes 668 00:37:44,342 --> 00:37:46,551 and he was poised to do that with Linda 669 00:37:46,585 --> 00:37:48,898 and Geffen was ready to be their record company 670 00:37:48,932 --> 00:37:50,658 that would be there. 671 00:37:53,627 --> 00:37:56,112 I started Asylum Records and signed Jackson Browne 672 00:37:56,146 --> 00:37:59,943 and then signing other artists and it turned into what it did. 673 00:38:03,119 --> 00:38:05,052 And I knew when I saw Linda and the Stone Poneys 674 00:38:05,086 --> 00:38:07,019 that she was gonna make it and she was gonna make it 675 00:38:07,054 --> 00:38:10,851 as a solo artist and I knew she was going to be a big star. 676 00:38:11,714 --> 00:38:13,302 She didn't think so. 677 00:38:14,095 --> 00:38:16,546 She had very little confidence in those days. 678 00:38:18,790 --> 00:38:20,654 Linda was feeling like she wasn't good enough 679 00:38:20,688 --> 00:38:22,380 to be on Asylum Records. 680 00:38:23,898 --> 00:38:26,798 I said to her that that was crazy. 681 00:38:28,178 --> 00:38:30,560 I'm never really satisfied with what I do. 682 00:38:30,940 --> 00:38:32,976 And lots of times I hear that I did something wrong 683 00:38:33,011 --> 00:38:35,531 and it bothers me, it can ruin my day really. 684 00:38:35,841 --> 00:38:39,017 Linda never thought she was as good as she was 685 00:38:39,051 --> 00:38:41,744 and that is an interesting paradox 686 00:38:41,778 --> 00:38:43,953 because she's confident about her ideas 687 00:38:43,987 --> 00:38:46,783 but not about herself and not about her singing. 688 00:38:48,578 --> 00:38:51,823 My involvement as a producer with Linda came when she was 689 00:38:51,857 --> 00:38:55,482 having trouble finishing the album that became Don't Cry Now. 690 00:38:56,034 --> 00:38:59,037 And that's when we decided that the next album I would produce 691 00:38:59,071 --> 00:39:00,521 was Heart Like a Wheel. 692 00:39:00,556 --> 00:39:05,526 ♪ Some say a heart Is just like a wheel ♪ 693 00:39:05,561 --> 00:39:07,666 ♪ When you bend it ♪ 694 00:39:07,701 --> 00:39:09,185 ♪ You can't mend it ♪ 695 00:39:09,219 --> 00:39:12,740 The McGarrigle Sisters, who were these two Canadian sisters, 696 00:39:12,775 --> 00:39:14,052 they were in an odd category. 697 00:39:14,086 --> 00:39:17,020 They didn't fit in pop music, they didn't fit in folk music, 698 00:39:17,055 --> 00:39:19,989 they didn't fit anywhere except they fit in my heart. 699 00:39:20,023 --> 00:39:21,404 We just heard Heart Like A Wheel, 700 00:39:21,439 --> 00:39:23,061 then I went I have to sing it. 701 00:39:24,131 --> 00:39:27,686 ♪ When harm is done ♪ 702 00:39:27,893 --> 00:39:31,138 ♪ No love can be won ♪ 703 00:39:31,172 --> 00:39:34,693 ♪ I know it happens ♪ 704 00:39:34,728 --> 00:39:37,834 ♪ Frequently ♪ 705 00:39:39,042 --> 00:39:41,079 ♪ But I can't... ♪ 706 00:39:41,113 --> 00:39:45,566 Linda has the ability to hear a song and claim it. 707 00:39:45,773 --> 00:39:47,775 You claim it as your own as a singer. 708 00:39:47,810 --> 00:39:50,744 If you love it like that you get inside it. 709 00:39:50,778 --> 00:39:52,090 You become it. 710 00:39:52,504 --> 00:39:59,684 ♪ But my love for you Is like a sinking ship ♪ 711 00:40:00,132 --> 00:40:08,140 ♪ And my heart is on that ship out in mid-ocean ♪ 712 00:40:11,937 --> 00:40:13,801 Heart Like a Wheel, she discovered that song, 713 00:40:13,836 --> 00:40:15,182 brought it to me and I loved it. 714 00:40:15,216 --> 00:40:17,771 I thought it was beautiful but I was also thinking 715 00:40:17,805 --> 00:40:19,497 in terms of we should make some hits. 716 00:40:19,531 --> 00:40:21,050 ♪ Feelin' better ♪ 717 00:40:21,084 --> 00:40:23,501 ♪ Now that we're through ♪ 718 00:40:23,535 --> 00:40:25,675 ♪ Feelin' better ♪ 719 00:40:25,710 --> 00:40:27,539 ♪ 'Cause I'm over you ♪ 720 00:40:27,574 --> 00:40:29,230 I'm a ballad singer, I like to sing ballads best 721 00:40:29,265 --> 00:40:32,061 but we needed some up-tempo songs for the record 722 00:40:32,095 --> 00:40:33,925 and as an afterthought I had this song 723 00:40:33,959 --> 00:40:36,583 that we'd used to close the show. 724 00:40:36,617 --> 00:40:38,239 ♪ You're no good You're no good ♪ 725 00:40:38,274 --> 00:40:42,071 ♪ You're no good Baby, you're no good ♪ 726 00:40:42,899 --> 00:40:44,867 ♪ I'm gonna say it again ♪ 727 00:40:44,901 --> 00:40:47,041 ♪ You're no good You're no good ♪ 728 00:40:47,076 --> 00:40:51,149 ♪ You're no good Baby, you're no good ♪ 729 00:40:51,770 --> 00:40:54,014 She knew and loved the song, I knew and loved the song, 730 00:40:54,048 --> 00:40:57,155 and we decided to do a version of that song. 731 00:40:59,882 --> 00:41:04,093 I stayed up all night assembling this very complicated, 732 00:41:04,127 --> 00:41:07,165 intricate layered guitar piece. 733 00:41:07,683 --> 00:41:10,996 We worked very long into like the next afternoon. 734 00:41:11,549 --> 00:41:13,930 And that's when Linda turned up and didn't like it. 735 00:41:15,622 --> 00:41:18,176 She said, "Oh, I don't like it. It sounds like the Beatles," 736 00:41:18,210 --> 00:41:19,695 which it did sound like the Beatles 737 00:41:19,729 --> 00:41:21,317 but in the end she came around and said, 738 00:41:21,351 --> 00:41:23,664 "You know what, I was wrong. It's great. " 739 00:41:35,676 --> 00:41:40,232 ♪ I'm tellin' you now baby And I'm going my way ♪ 740 00:41:40,681 --> 00:41:45,755 ♪ Forget about you, baby 'Cause I'm leaving to stay ♪ 741 00:41:45,790 --> 00:41:47,239 Every song that I sing has a face 742 00:41:47,274 --> 00:41:49,138 that I sing it to, you know. 743 00:41:49,172 --> 00:41:53,763 And so when something happens to me, 744 00:41:53,798 --> 00:41:55,627 it's really funny, I know so many songs. 745 00:41:55,662 --> 00:41:57,146 When something happens to me 746 00:41:57,180 --> 00:41:58,941 the song will occur at the same time. 747 00:41:58,975 --> 00:42:00,667 I'll think oh, this song or that song, you know. 748 00:42:00,701 --> 00:42:02,945 And if it's a song I can sing then I'll have to sing it, 749 00:42:02,979 --> 00:42:05,913 I'll just burn to sing it. I can't not sing it. 750 00:42:05,948 --> 00:42:09,883 ♪ I passed you on the street ♪ 751 00:42:10,262 --> 00:42:14,370 ♪ And my heart Fell at your feet ♪ 752 00:42:14,404 --> 00:42:16,717 ♪ I can't help it ♪ 753 00:42:16,752 --> 00:42:21,342 ♪ If I'm still In love with you ♪ 754 00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:25,208 He would make the assumption that I was choosing the songs 755 00:42:25,243 --> 00:42:27,694 that we would do on these records or that I was working 756 00:42:27,728 --> 00:42:30,041 out the arrangements or this, that, and the other. 757 00:42:30,075 --> 00:42:31,870 And I would have to keep explaining that 758 00:42:31,905 --> 00:42:34,597 it was Linda and me in that order. 759 00:42:35,253 --> 00:42:38,946 ♪ Still in love with you ♪ 760 00:42:40,154 --> 00:42:42,743 My sister used to play all these Hank Williams records. 761 00:42:42,778 --> 00:42:45,194 So I thought I can do that. 762 00:42:45,228 --> 00:42:48,335 ♪ Came slowly stealing ♪ 763 00:42:50,061 --> 00:42:52,926 ♪ As I brushed your arm ♪ 764 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,792 ♪ And stood So close to you... ♪ 765 00:42:56,826 --> 00:42:58,863 Linda knew a good song 766 00:42:58,897 --> 00:43:00,658 and she knew why it was good and better than that 767 00:43:00,692 --> 00:43:02,729 she knew how to sing it better than you can sing. 768 00:43:02,763 --> 00:43:07,216 When you become that sharp of a song stylist, 769 00:43:07,250 --> 00:43:10,184 you get authorship in a certain way. 770 00:43:10,219 --> 00:43:12,773 I consider her a real author. 771 00:43:12,808 --> 00:43:16,328 She didn't write songs but she made songs happen 772 00:43:16,363 --> 00:43:17,709 the way she wanted to hear them. 773 00:43:17,744 --> 00:43:23,059 ♪ I can't help it if I'm still in love with you ♪ 774 00:43:23,681 --> 00:43:25,752 I Can't Help it if I'm Still in Love With You 775 00:43:25,786 --> 00:43:27,650 was a hit on the country charts. 776 00:43:28,099 --> 00:43:31,412 You're No Good was a hit on both the R&B chart and the pop chart. 777 00:43:32,275 --> 00:43:35,175 So I became the first artist to have a hit on all three charts 778 00:43:35,209 --> 00:43:36,797 at the same time. 779 00:43:41,250 --> 00:43:44,909 Heart Like A Wheel was a huge turning point for her. 780 00:43:45,772 --> 00:43:50,811 The avalanche of success was hitting everywhere. 781 00:43:51,053 --> 00:43:53,469 She was at the forefront of a kind of pop stardom 782 00:43:53,503 --> 00:43:56,127 that hadn't happened at that point 783 00:43:56,161 --> 00:44:00,683 but people didn't notice the difficulty of being a woman, 784 00:44:00,718 --> 00:44:04,411 trailblazing and having the success of a Mick Jagger. 785 00:44:13,247 --> 00:44:17,804 ♪ People try to rape me Always thinking I'm crazy ♪ 786 00:44:17,838 --> 00:44:20,979 ♪ Make me burn the candle right down ♪ 787 00:44:22,463 --> 00:44:24,293 ♪ Baby ♪ 788 00:44:24,845 --> 00:44:26,709 ♪ I can't stay ♪ 789 00:44:27,020 --> 00:44:30,195 ♪ Don't need no jewels In my crown ♪ 790 00:44:31,024 --> 00:44:33,716 ♪ 'Cause all you women ♪ 791 00:44:33,751 --> 00:44:35,994 ♪ Are low down gamblers ♪ 792 00:44:36,029 --> 00:44:38,341 Now I had gigs like in big sporting arenas, 793 00:44:38,376 --> 00:44:40,447 you know, stadiums and stuff like that. 794 00:44:40,965 --> 00:44:43,208 I knew the name of every arena in the country. 795 00:44:43,243 --> 00:44:45,245 We got a gig tonight at the Spectrum in Philly. 796 00:44:45,279 --> 00:44:46,280 We'll be at the Forum. 797 00:44:46,315 --> 00:44:47,488 Gig tomorrow night at the Garden. 798 00:44:47,523 --> 00:44:48,489 That's where we played. 799 00:44:48,524 --> 00:44:50,112 She was selling them all out. 800 00:44:50,146 --> 00:44:51,838 ♪ This low down bitchin' ♪ 801 00:44:51,872 --> 00:44:54,323 ♪ Got my poor feet a itchin' ♪ 802 00:44:54,357 --> 00:44:57,257 ♪ Can you see The deuce is still wild ♪ 803 00:44:57,291 --> 00:44:58,776 She was very good. 804 00:44:58,810 --> 00:44:59,880 Audience loved her. 805 00:44:59,915 --> 00:45:00,847 Records sold. 806 00:45:00,881 --> 00:45:04,022 She was on an uphill swing all the time. 807 00:45:04,057 --> 00:45:05,990 ♪ Got to roll me ♪ 808 00:45:06,024 --> 00:45:10,408 ♪ Call me the tumblin' dice ♪ 809 00:45:13,273 --> 00:45:14,964 When we did that tour together 810 00:45:14,999 --> 00:45:17,139 we'd take turns closing and opening. 811 00:45:19,175 --> 00:45:22,316 You know. Try following Linda Ronstadt every night. 812 00:45:22,351 --> 00:45:26,044 ♪ Honey Got no money ♪ 813 00:45:26,596 --> 00:45:29,876 ♪ Sixes and sevens and nines ♪ 814 00:45:30,497 --> 00:45:34,294 ♪ Hey now baby I'm the rank outsider ♪ 815 00:45:34,328 --> 00:45:36,365 I went to go see her at the Universal Amphitheater 816 00:45:36,399 --> 00:45:38,332 when she was wearing her Boy Scouts outfit 817 00:45:38,367 --> 00:45:39,955 and was just rocking. 818 00:45:40,541 --> 00:45:43,061 ♪ Baby... ♪ 819 00:45:43,096 --> 00:45:45,546 Linda was able to be really feminine and sexy 820 00:45:45,581 --> 00:45:50,344 in this world of men and somehow hold onto herself and do that 821 00:45:50,379 --> 00:45:53,244 and use that in the best possible way. 822 00:46:04,876 --> 00:46:08,259 There was a lot of dudes running around the stages then. 823 00:46:08,293 --> 00:46:11,503 But we were on the road with Linda and killing it. 824 00:46:11,538 --> 00:46:12,815 She was killing every night. 825 00:46:12,850 --> 00:46:15,300 ♪ The tumbling dice ♪ 826 00:46:16,439 --> 00:46:18,303 ♪ You got to roll me ♪ 827 00:46:18,338 --> 00:46:20,374 I know they liked my singing and I know they were proud 828 00:46:20,409 --> 00:46:22,894 of what they were doing but still in rock and roll 829 00:46:22,929 --> 00:46:25,414 the idea that you're actually working for a chick singer, 830 00:46:25,448 --> 00:46:28,037 in their way they sort of saw it as not as cool 831 00:46:28,072 --> 00:46:29,556 as if they were their own rock and roll band 832 00:46:29,590 --> 00:46:31,282 and they were just all the guys. 833 00:46:33,111 --> 00:46:36,563 ♪ Baby, baby Got to roll me ♪ 834 00:46:36,597 --> 00:46:38,634 There weren't a lot of women musicians 835 00:46:38,668 --> 00:46:41,257 so it was always a band of guys. 836 00:46:41,292 --> 00:46:44,502 There weren't women bass players and women guitar players 837 00:46:44,536 --> 00:46:48,264 and sometimes some of these guys were, they were tough. 838 00:46:50,404 --> 00:46:52,441 I got a lot tougher and more foul mouthed. 839 00:46:52,475 --> 00:46:53,442 I used to swear a lot. 840 00:46:53,476 --> 00:46:54,961 I mean, I used to talk like a truck driver. 841 00:46:54,995 --> 00:46:57,618 When I think about the way I used to talk, I'm shocked. 842 00:47:01,036 --> 00:47:03,486 Without having any other girls along on the road, 843 00:47:03,521 --> 00:47:06,420 just automatically you start to imitate them. 844 00:47:09,665 --> 00:47:13,117 Linda was never comfortable being on the road 845 00:47:13,151 --> 00:47:18,156 but obviously she did her job and part of her loved it. 846 00:47:18,191 --> 00:47:19,330 Who wouldn't love it? 847 00:47:19,364 --> 00:47:22,126 But I think there was another part of her that went, 848 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,300 "You know, this doesn't feel right. " 849 00:47:26,061 --> 00:47:27,476 If I were going to choose something to do 850 00:47:27,510 --> 00:47:29,443 it would not be to stand up in front of a lot of people. 851 00:47:29,478 --> 00:47:31,204 But I love to sing, I love to sing. 852 00:47:31,238 --> 00:47:33,482 I love music so at some point you do whatever you have to do 853 00:47:33,516 --> 00:47:35,242 to do music. 854 00:47:36,692 --> 00:47:39,522 She would confess to me that if she saw people in the front row 855 00:47:39,557 --> 00:47:43,147 and somebody leans over and says something to the person 856 00:47:43,181 --> 00:47:46,529 next to them, she thought they were saying, you know, 857 00:47:46,564 --> 00:47:48,635 she's the worst singer I've ever heard. 858 00:47:48,669 --> 00:47:50,119 I don't like this. 859 00:47:50,395 --> 00:47:52,121 She really believed that. 860 00:47:53,502 --> 00:47:56,194 You get on the bus at night, card game going on, 861 00:47:56,229 --> 00:47:58,196 everybody blasting music 862 00:47:58,231 --> 00:48:00,474 or everyone else drinking, you know. 863 00:48:00,509 --> 00:48:02,338 A lot of drugs around. 864 00:48:03,063 --> 00:48:05,445 A lot of people would go on stage completely hammered, 865 00:48:05,479 --> 00:48:07,240 completely fucking hammered. 866 00:48:07,274 --> 00:48:11,037 Everybody was up at night and when the gig ended 867 00:48:11,071 --> 00:48:13,039 you don't go home and have milk. 868 00:48:14,557 --> 00:48:18,078 It was kind of the nighttime danger fun part about 869 00:48:18,113 --> 00:48:19,700 not having to go to bed. 870 00:48:19,735 --> 00:48:21,702 You know, Keith Richards can do it, so can I. 871 00:48:21,737 --> 00:48:24,464 Linda's thing was diet pills. 872 00:48:26,155 --> 00:48:28,364 She went through a phase mostly taking speed 873 00:48:28,399 --> 00:48:31,057 and not eating and being super skinny. 874 00:48:31,712 --> 00:48:35,061 It seemed like it was so hard to be out there day after day 875 00:48:35,095 --> 00:48:37,063 and to try to get up the energy to sort of do that 876 00:48:37,097 --> 00:48:40,135 when you were just wrung out 877 00:48:40,169 --> 00:48:43,172 from the sense of being dislocated from place. 878 00:48:45,209 --> 00:48:47,728 I was with a bunch of people that were basically earnest 879 00:48:47,763 --> 00:48:49,247 and basically honest 880 00:48:49,282 --> 00:48:52,078 and the kind of paranoia that was introduced by drugs 881 00:48:52,112 --> 00:48:54,080 was so destructive in our ability to communicate 882 00:48:54,114 --> 00:48:54,977 with each other. 883 00:48:55,012 --> 00:48:57,117 That really saddened me. 884 00:48:57,152 --> 00:49:00,431 And then at some point we all just stopped. 885 00:49:04,504 --> 00:49:06,437 ♪ I feel so bad ♪ 886 00:49:06,471 --> 00:49:09,750 ♪ I got a worried mind ♪ 887 00:49:10,682 --> 00:49:13,030 ♪ I'm so lonesome ♪ 888 00:49:13,064 --> 00:49:14,963 ♪ All the time ♪ 889 00:49:16,067 --> 00:49:20,451 ♪ Since I left my Baby behind ♪ 890 00:49:20,485 --> 00:49:23,040 ♪ On Blue Bayou ♪ 891 00:49:27,078 --> 00:49:31,255 ♪ Saving nickels Saving dimes ♪ 892 00:49:32,359 --> 00:49:36,294 ♪ Workin' 'til The sun don't shine ♪ 893 00:49:37,468 --> 00:49:41,575 ♪ Looking forward To happier times ♪ 894 00:49:41,610 --> 00:49:44,302 ♪ On Blue Bayou ♪ 895 00:49:46,442 --> 00:49:49,376 ♪ I'm going back someday ♪ 896 00:49:49,825 --> 00:49:51,792 ♪ Come what may ♪ 897 00:49:51,827 --> 00:49:55,520 ♪ To Blue Bayou ♪ 898 00:49:56,797 --> 00:49:59,662 ♪ Where the folks are fine ♪ 899 00:49:59,697 --> 00:50:02,665 ♪ And the world is mine ♪ 900 00:50:02,700 --> 00:50:05,737 ♪ On Blue Bayou ♪ 901 00:50:06,704 --> 00:50:10,156 When Rolling Stone was ready to put Linda Ronstadt on the cover 902 00:50:10,190 --> 00:50:13,469 that was her absolute peak up until then. 903 00:50:13,676 --> 00:50:17,301 ♪ If I could only see ♪ 904 00:50:17,335 --> 00:50:20,269 Generally it was a very male-oriented 905 00:50:20,304 --> 00:50:22,685 denim-clad warrior cover. 906 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,413 So here comes Linda Ronstadt 907 00:50:26,448 --> 00:50:30,417 and she and Annie Leibovitz put together this photo session 908 00:50:30,452 --> 00:50:32,626 that was like no other cover that had been 909 00:50:32,661 --> 00:50:34,594 on Rolling Stone before. 910 00:50:36,630 --> 00:50:38,563 She was honest 911 00:50:41,428 --> 00:50:43,568 and opened her heart. 912 00:50:44,431 --> 00:50:48,504 She said, "This gets lonely and I don't know where it ends up. 913 00:50:48,746 --> 00:50:50,575 It's an emotional journey 914 00:50:50,610 --> 00:50:52,612 and I'm happy that I brought this kind of joy. 915 00:50:52,646 --> 00:50:54,269 But you know what? When I'm here alone 916 00:50:54,303 --> 00:50:58,135 in this Malibu home that looks very cozy, it's lonely. " 917 00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,724 There's a lot of show business people down here, you know. 918 00:51:01,759 --> 00:51:03,692 It's not my style exactly. 919 00:51:03,726 --> 00:51:06,522 Where did you live before? 920 00:51:06,557 --> 00:51:09,456 Nowhere really. I was on the road for about ten years 921 00:51:09,491 --> 00:51:12,494 and I didn't exactly have a home. 922 00:51:12,942 --> 00:51:17,844 ♪ On Blue Bayou ♪ 923 00:51:32,721 --> 00:51:35,379 Singing the National Anthem here at Dodger Stadium, 924 00:51:35,413 --> 00:51:37,381 Ms. Linda Ronstadt. 925 00:51:41,626 --> 00:51:44,215 ♪ Oh, say can you see? ♪ 926 00:51:44,250 --> 00:51:47,632 I remember my dad was watching her at the game. 927 00:51:47,667 --> 00:51:49,772 She sang the National Anthem. 928 00:51:50,290 --> 00:51:54,294 ♪ What so proudly we hailed ♪ 929 00:51:54,501 --> 00:51:56,158 ♪ At the twilight's... ♪ 930 00:51:56,193 --> 00:51:57,677 All of sudden there she is. 931 00:51:57,711 --> 00:52:00,576 She'd come in the limo straight to the restaurant from the game 932 00:52:00,611 --> 00:52:02,268 to have something to eat. 933 00:52:03,407 --> 00:52:06,548 My parents had a small restaurant on Melrose Avenue 934 00:52:06,582 --> 00:52:09,758 across the street from what was then KHJ Radio 935 00:52:09,792 --> 00:52:12,174 which was the radio station in the day. 936 00:52:12,795 --> 00:52:15,695 Linda walked in and my dad was wearing a shirt 937 00:52:15,729 --> 00:52:18,525 that we call in Mexico Aloe Vera 938 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,942 and it has four pockets and it's white and she said, 939 00:52:21,977 --> 00:52:23,323 "This is a good place 940 00:52:23,358 --> 00:52:25,498 because he's wearing the shirt my dad wears. 941 00:52:26,361 --> 00:52:28,432 A lot of the people who hung out at the Troubadour 942 00:52:28,466 --> 00:52:30,434 also ate at Lucy's. 943 00:52:31,262 --> 00:52:34,472 Lucy was very shall we say loose with the check 944 00:52:34,507 --> 00:52:36,888 now and again and if we were on hard times. 945 00:52:37,958 --> 00:52:41,341 Our customers were not just soon-to-be celebrities 946 00:52:41,376 --> 00:52:44,689 of the industries, they were the oligarch of Los Angeles. 947 00:52:44,724 --> 00:52:47,382 I mean, you're talking old-school money. 948 00:52:48,797 --> 00:52:50,523 There was a big communal table that my father 949 00:52:50,557 --> 00:52:51,662 used to sit everybody at. 950 00:52:51,696 --> 00:52:53,871 So you'd sit with policemen, you'd sit with firemen, 951 00:52:53,905 --> 00:52:56,494 sometimes you'd sit with an actor, sometimes you'd sit... 952 00:52:56,529 --> 00:52:59,325 a football player. You never had any idea who you'd sit with. 953 00:52:59,359 --> 00:53:02,431 What happened was Linda had decided 954 00:53:02,466 --> 00:53:04,433 that she wanted to change the 8-track 955 00:53:04,468 --> 00:53:05,710 because she wanted to hear something else. 956 00:53:05,745 --> 00:53:09,300 So she had to step up on this little wine rack 957 00:53:09,335 --> 00:53:12,441 and at that moment the Governor Jerry Brown comes in 958 00:53:12,476 --> 00:53:16,480 that room and he sees her and it was like wow! 959 00:53:16,514 --> 00:53:17,722 Who's she? 960 00:53:18,551 --> 00:53:21,899 So my father went and he sat them together. 961 00:53:23,383 --> 00:53:24,936 And, well, he fell in love with her. 962 00:53:24,971 --> 00:53:26,766 There was no question about that. 963 00:53:27,836 --> 00:53:29,389 Jerry likes passionate music. 964 00:53:29,424 --> 00:53:31,460 He likes passionate music, passionate women, 965 00:53:31,495 --> 00:53:32,841 that's his deal. 966 00:53:33,497 --> 00:53:35,464 We had a really good time together. 967 00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,297 He went out to run for president for the last couple of months 968 00:53:40,331 --> 00:53:43,369 and he pending for the fact that I got to see him on TV 969 00:53:43,403 --> 00:53:45,543 I may have forgot what he looked like. 970 00:53:48,028 --> 00:53:49,582 But he came back yesterday. 971 00:53:49,616 --> 00:53:50,997 He's gonna make it all better now. 972 00:53:54,449 --> 00:53:55,967 That's what he told me anyway. 973 00:53:56,002 --> 00:53:57,762 I have yet to see. 974 00:53:58,073 --> 00:54:01,594 ♪ My boyfriend's back And you're gonna be trouble ♪ 975 00:54:01,628 --> 00:54:04,942 ♪ Hey now, hey now My boyfriend's back ♪ 976 00:54:04,976 --> 00:54:06,392 ♪ When you see him coming... ♪ 977 00:54:06,426 --> 00:54:08,428 Did you have much of a problem when you're with Jerry Brown 978 00:54:08,463 --> 00:54:11,293 people expecting you to have political views 979 00:54:11,328 --> 00:54:13,744 along the lines of Governor Brown? 980 00:54:13,778 --> 00:54:16,402 Whereas you're a singer, he's a politician. 981 00:54:16,436 --> 00:54:17,955 Our relationship was completely personal, 982 00:54:17,989 --> 00:54:19,336 it wasn't political at all. 983 00:54:19,370 --> 00:54:21,545 So, you know, he did politics, I did music. 984 00:54:21,579 --> 00:54:23,892 - Right. - It's easy to separate that. 985 00:54:24,133 --> 00:54:26,343 You went to South Africa recently. 986 00:54:26,377 --> 00:54:28,793 Did you receive criticism for going there? 987 00:54:28,828 --> 00:54:30,968 As far as I was concerned it was just a gig. 988 00:54:31,002 --> 00:54:33,039 I don't think that if you disagree with the policies 989 00:54:33,073 --> 00:54:35,559 of the government, which I do very definitely disagree 990 00:54:35,593 --> 00:54:37,630 with the policies of the South African government, 991 00:54:37,664 --> 00:54:39,079 I don't think that's enough of a reason not to go 992 00:54:39,114 --> 00:54:40,357 and play music there. 993 00:54:40,391 --> 00:54:43,049 If I did that I wouldn't be able to play in the United State 994 00:54:43,083 --> 00:54:45,362 because I don't agree with their policies about nuclear power, 995 00:54:45,396 --> 00:54:46,604 nuclear warfare. 996 00:54:46,639 --> 00:54:49,676 I mean, my God, we've got this person running the country 997 00:54:49,711 --> 00:54:51,437 that I completely disagree with. 998 00:54:51,471 --> 00:54:53,922 If I decided that I wasn't going to play where attitudes 999 00:54:53,956 --> 00:54:57,684 of racism prevailed, I certainly couldn't play in Australia 1000 00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:01,550 or England or lots of places in the United States, 1001 00:55:01,585 --> 00:55:03,863 a lot of places in the American South or Boston 1002 00:55:03,897 --> 00:55:05,554 which is extremely racist. 1003 00:55:05,589 --> 00:55:08,488 I went to South Africa, it has a fascist repressive government. 1004 00:55:08,523 --> 00:55:10,041 I'm very interested in the culture down there. 1005 00:55:10,076 --> 00:55:11,077 You just got finished talking. 1006 00:55:11,111 --> 00:55:13,390 You say why does anyone think I'm controversial. 1007 00:55:13,424 --> 00:55:15,564 Do you realized what you've just talked about here? 1008 00:55:15,599 --> 00:55:17,842 We've just received all your political views in one blow. 1009 00:55:17,877 --> 00:55:19,879 I'm teasing. I'm not putting it down. 1010 00:55:19,913 --> 00:55:22,364 I don't think my political views are very controversial. 1011 00:55:22,399 --> 00:55:24,435 Who likes nuclear warfare? 1012 00:55:24,470 --> 00:55:27,024 I remember her having the Wall Street Journal in her bag 1013 00:55:27,058 --> 00:55:30,027 one time in the 70s when she was dating Jerry and I went, 1014 00:55:30,061 --> 00:55:33,168 you know, I had thought she was really smart but she's really 1015 00:55:33,202 --> 00:55:36,413 well read and very, very up on a lot of different things. 1016 00:55:36,447 --> 00:55:41,072 She's as wide ranging in her critical intellectual pursuits 1017 00:55:41,107 --> 00:55:44,593 as she is in her music pursuits and you don't find that kind 1018 00:55:44,628 --> 00:55:47,976 of depth and eclecticism in pop music. 1019 00:55:49,633 --> 00:55:54,396 Jerry needed somebody that could be full-time there for him. 1020 00:55:55,190 --> 00:55:57,675 You couldn't have two careers in that family. 1021 00:55:57,710 --> 00:56:00,678 ♪ I never will marry... ♪ 1022 00:56:00,713 --> 00:56:01,990 There's not enough time. 1023 00:56:02,024 --> 00:56:05,027 ♪ I'll be no man's wife ♪ 1024 00:56:05,821 --> 00:56:08,824 ♪ I tend to stay single ♪ 1025 00:56:10,032 --> 00:56:13,035 ♪ For my rest of my life ♪ 1026 00:56:13,588 --> 00:56:16,107 I mean, the same reason I never got married. 1027 00:56:16,901 --> 00:56:18,662 I don't know, I think it's hard being a woman 1028 00:56:18,696 --> 00:56:20,042 in the music business. 1029 00:56:20,077 --> 00:56:23,529 You know, it's a different kind of life. 1030 00:56:23,805 --> 00:56:26,048 ♪ Rushing waters ♪ 1031 00:56:26,739 --> 00:56:30,605 ♪ Went over my head ♪ 1032 00:56:30,639 --> 00:56:32,745 Well you don't need to get married, you what I mean? 1033 00:56:32,779 --> 00:56:34,781 It's like we have our own income 1034 00:56:34,816 --> 00:56:37,991 and you don't have to have the state verify 1035 00:56:38,026 --> 00:56:39,614 that you love somebody 1036 00:56:39,648 --> 00:56:41,616 and when that relationship's over you leave. 1037 00:56:41,650 --> 00:56:43,480 Neither one of us are really made for marriage 1038 00:56:43,514 --> 00:56:46,172 or I think long-term relationships. 1039 00:56:46,897 --> 00:56:48,243 Why did you break up? 1040 00:56:48,277 --> 00:56:51,108 I can't remember. Maybe she could tell you. 1041 00:56:51,142 --> 00:56:54,939 ♪ It's so easy to fall in love ♪ 1042 00:56:55,250 --> 00:56:59,047 ♪ It's so easy to fall in love ♪ 1043 00:56:59,875 --> 00:57:03,223 ♪ People tell me Love's for fools ♪ 1044 00:57:03,776 --> 00:57:07,642 ♪ But here I go Breaking all the rules ♪ 1045 00:57:07,676 --> 00:57:09,575 ♪ Seems so easy... ♪ 1046 00:57:09,609 --> 00:57:13,061 My mom wanted to be a scientist but she had four kids 1047 00:57:13,095 --> 00:57:16,236 and I think it was also a little bit of a disappointment. 1048 00:57:16,271 --> 00:57:18,756 ♪ It's so easy To fall in love... ♪ 1049 00:57:18,791 --> 00:57:21,621 She always said to me go out and have a life. 1050 00:57:21,656 --> 00:57:24,486 You don't just have to get married, there are alternatives. 1051 00:57:24,521 --> 00:57:28,041 ♪ It's so easy to fall in love ♪ 1052 00:57:28,628 --> 00:57:32,080 ♪ It's so easy to fall in love ♪ 1053 00:57:33,806 --> 00:57:36,912 I have to confess, I got a really bad crush on this guy. 1054 00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,916 We had a little romance for a while but it wasn't long lived. 1055 00:57:40,951 --> 00:57:42,884 He dumped me for this pig. 1056 00:57:42,918 --> 00:57:45,231 Well, at least I got his picture. 1057 00:57:47,785 --> 00:57:49,787 ♪ Does he love me? ♪ 1058 00:57:49,822 --> 00:57:51,962 ♪ I want to know ♪ 1059 00:57:51,996 --> 00:57:55,655 ♪ How can I tell if he loves me so? ♪ 1060 00:57:55,690 --> 00:57:57,623 ♪ Is it in his eyes? ♪ 1061 00:57:57,657 --> 00:57:59,763 ♪ Oh no, you make believe ♪ 1062 00:57:59,797 --> 00:58:01,834 ♪ Is it in his size ♪ 1063 00:58:01,868 --> 00:58:03,939 ♪ Oh no You'll be deceived ♪ 1064 00:58:03,974 --> 00:58:07,943 ♪ If you want to know if he loves you so ♪ 1065 00:58:07,978 --> 00:58:09,807 ♪ It's in his kiss ♪ 1066 00:58:09,842 --> 00:58:11,637 ♪ That's where it is ♪ 1067 00:58:11,982 --> 00:58:15,641 To present the nominees for favorite female 1068 00:58:15,675 --> 00:58:20,853 in rock and pop are Teddy Pendergrass and Tanya Tucker. 1069 00:58:21,129 --> 00:58:23,545 Linda Ronstadt. 1070 00:58:26,617 --> 00:58:28,343 Ms. Barbara Streisand. 1071 00:58:31,001 --> 00:58:32,243 And Donna Summer. 1072 00:58:33,624 --> 00:58:34,660 You open the envelope. 1073 00:58:34,694 --> 00:58:35,799 I'm too nervous. 1074 00:58:35,833 --> 00:58:38,284 I'll do the gentlemanly thing here and I'll open it. 1075 00:58:38,318 --> 00:58:40,907 - If you will read. - Okay. And the winner is... 1076 00:58:40,942 --> 00:58:42,081 Linda Ronstadt. 1077 00:58:46,603 --> 00:58:48,225 Linda was the queen. 1078 00:58:48,259 --> 00:58:50,641 She was like what Beyoncé is now. 1079 00:58:52,678 --> 00:58:55,301 She was the first female rock and roll star. 1080 00:58:55,750 --> 00:58:57,786 ♪ Want love? ♪ 1081 00:58:59,201 --> 00:59:01,134 ♪ Get closer ♪ 1082 00:59:02,066 --> 00:59:04,103 She was the only female artist the have 1083 00:59:04,137 --> 00:59:09,246 five platinum albums in a row and most of them multi-platinum. 1084 00:59:09,971 --> 00:59:12,111 ♪ Hold my hand ♪ 1085 00:59:13,319 --> 00:59:16,011 For favorite female in rock and pop... 1086 00:59:16,046 --> 00:59:17,254 Favorite country single... 1087 00:59:17,288 --> 00:59:19,359 Blue Bayou by Linda Ronstadt. 1088 00:59:19,394 --> 00:59:21,258 - And the winner is... - Takes another one. 1089 00:59:21,292 --> 00:59:24,330 - Linda Ronstadt. - The winner is Linda Ronstadt. 1090 00:59:24,917 --> 00:59:28,334 ♪ You make a fuss when her eyes ain't on you ♪ 1091 00:59:28,368 --> 00:59:31,924 ♪ Well give us something to look forward to ♪ 1092 00:59:31,958 --> 00:59:35,237 ♪ Remember all those other girls who ran ♪ 1093 00:59:35,859 --> 00:59:38,378 The nature of being a pop musician is that you get 1094 00:59:38,413 --> 00:59:40,208 these things that are successful 1095 00:59:40,242 --> 00:59:42,313 and you have to sing them for the rest of your life. 1096 00:59:42,348 --> 00:59:43,970 Over and over and over again and they start sounding 1097 00:59:44,005 --> 00:59:45,869 like your washing machine. 1098 00:59:48,457 --> 00:59:51,426 I didn't like singing in big arenas because the sound 1099 00:59:51,460 --> 00:59:54,705 was like, you know, you'd hear the guitar solo that 1100 00:59:54,740 --> 00:59:57,294 they played last week still ringing around the rafters. 1101 00:59:59,848 --> 01:00:02,333 So I started looking for other things to do. 1102 01:00:06,993 --> 01:00:09,962 There is this feeling that she has about the music itself 1103 01:00:09,996 --> 01:00:12,309 rather than the career itself. 1104 01:00:12,343 --> 01:00:15,933 You know, some people are just hardcore careerists. 1105 01:00:16,140 --> 01:00:17,970 There's nothing wrong with that. 1106 01:00:18,695 --> 01:00:22,043 You know, it's how your mind works that makes the difference. 1107 01:00:22,077 --> 01:00:25,909 It's how you see yourself or how you see yourself in the world, 1108 01:00:25,943 --> 01:00:26,979 you know. 1109 01:00:27,013 --> 01:00:30,361 And not everybody's a pure art for art's sake 1110 01:00:30,396 --> 01:00:32,363 and not everybody's a pure careerist either, 1111 01:00:32,398 --> 01:00:33,502 especially in music 1112 01:00:33,537 --> 01:00:37,092 because musicians love music or they wouldn't do it. 1113 01:00:40,095 --> 01:00:41,787 She wanted to change. 1114 01:00:41,821 --> 01:00:44,203 She got tired of doing arena rock, 1115 01:00:44,237 --> 01:00:46,136 she wanted to try different things. 1116 01:00:48,069 --> 01:00:50,243 I picked up the phone and called my great friend John Rockwell 1117 01:00:50,278 --> 01:00:53,350 who writes music criticism for the New York Times. 1118 01:00:54,385 --> 01:00:56,905 I said I hate playing these big sporting arenas. 1119 01:00:56,940 --> 01:00:59,667 It's not good for the audience, it's not good for the band. 1120 01:00:59,908 --> 01:01:03,118 I want to sing in a theater with a proscenium and a curtain. 1121 01:01:03,532 --> 01:01:05,327 He said well the next time you come to New York 1122 01:01:05,362 --> 01:01:08,330 I'll take you down to meet this fellow named Joseph Papp. 1123 01:01:08,814 --> 01:01:10,954 He has a theater, it's called the New York Public Theater 1124 01:01:10,988 --> 01:01:14,095 and he does Shakespeare and he does musicals; he did Hair. 1125 01:01:14,785 --> 01:01:17,098 He wanted to do The Pirates of Penzance. 1126 01:01:17,788 --> 01:01:20,066 My mom was a Gilbert and Sullivan lover. 1127 01:01:20,101 --> 01:01:23,414 She had a big book of Gilbert and Sullivan songs on the piano. 1128 01:01:24,036 --> 01:01:28,005 And I actually learned all the soprano parts as a kid. 1129 01:01:28,454 --> 01:01:30,421 And I loved singing them 1130 01:01:30,456 --> 01:01:33,010 but I never got a chance to in rock and roll. 1131 01:01:33,770 --> 01:01:36,980 That was in her roots, that was in her upbringing, 1132 01:01:37,014 --> 01:01:40,708 it was part of her authentic musical experience. 1133 01:01:42,019 --> 01:01:44,194 Joe called me and said if I wanted to do the part 1134 01:01:44,228 --> 01:01:45,747 I could have it. 1135 01:01:45,782 --> 01:01:47,266 And I said no I have to come and audition 1136 01:01:47,300 --> 01:01:49,371 because I didn't know whether I could sing it or not. 1137 01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:53,065 She wanted to be certain that she would do it well. 1138 01:01:53,306 --> 01:01:55,239 They thought being able to say Linda Ronstadt's in it 1139 01:01:55,274 --> 01:01:57,207 would be good for business. 1140 01:01:57,241 --> 01:02:00,279 But her concern was whether it would be good for the show. 1141 01:02:04,421 --> 01:02:07,010 I was there for several rehearsals and she was fabulous. 1142 01:02:07,044 --> 01:02:09,426 She just grabbed it by the horns and... 1143 01:02:15,018 --> 01:02:16,467 That was the first job I was ever offered 1144 01:02:16,502 --> 01:02:17,779 where I actually got to sing like that. 1145 01:02:17,814 --> 01:02:20,471 I was delighted, I really was. But I can't do it very well yet. 1146 01:02:20,506 --> 01:02:22,301 Because it's really hard. You can't learn that overnight. 1147 01:02:22,335 --> 01:02:24,959 - You got to be in training. - In training, yup. 1148 01:02:28,583 --> 01:02:32,967 Linda had a great voice and she had a great vision for herself 1149 01:02:33,001 --> 01:02:36,487 and she didn't want to just be singing rock and roll, 1150 01:02:36,522 --> 01:02:38,110 she wanted to do everything. 1151 01:02:38,489 --> 01:02:41,838 ♪ Hold, monsters! ♪ 1152 01:02:42,183 --> 01:02:44,530 ♪ Ere your pirate Caravanserai ♪ 1153 01:02:44,564 --> 01:02:48,465 ♪ Proceed, against our will to wed us all ♪ 1154 01:02:49,121 --> 01:02:53,435 ♪ Just bear in mind that we Are Wards in Chancery ♪ 1155 01:02:53,470 --> 01:02:57,474 ♪ And father is a Major-General ♪ 1156 01:02:57,508 --> 01:02:59,579 I knew some of her songs, sure. 1157 01:02:59,614 --> 01:03:02,203 But operetta? 1158 01:03:02,444 --> 01:03:03,894 ♪ Prepare! ♪ 1159 01:03:03,929 --> 01:03:09,589 ♪ Unhappy General Stanley ♪ 1160 01:03:09,624 --> 01:03:11,868 A week into rehearsal we all sang through the score 1161 01:03:11,971 --> 01:03:14,146 just sitting in a circle in chairs 1162 01:03:14,180 --> 01:03:18,253 and when I heard her voice it was just 1163 01:03:18,288 --> 01:03:24,846 this belle canto soprano gorgeous musical, 1164 01:03:26,296 --> 01:03:29,644 celestial yet earthy, just pure, 1165 01:03:29,678 --> 01:03:32,198 something so pure, it just made me cry. 1166 01:03:32,233 --> 01:03:34,373 I just remember just listening to that voice, 1167 01:03:34,407 --> 01:03:37,065 it was just singing that stuff... 1168 01:03:39,930 --> 01:03:41,000 Touching. 1169 01:03:41,967 --> 01:03:43,244 ♪ Oh, sisters, Deaf to pity's name ♪ 1170 01:03:43,278 --> 01:03:44,970 ♪ For shame! ♪ 1171 01:03:45,004 --> 01:03:47,110 ♪ It's true that he has Gone astray ♪ 1172 01:03:47,144 --> 01:03:48,870 ♪ But pray ♪ 1173 01:03:48,905 --> 01:03:51,252 ♪ Is that a reason Good and true ♪ 1174 01:03:51,286 --> 01:03:52,425 ♪ Why you ♪ 1175 01:03:52,460 --> 01:03:58,984 ♪ Should all be deaf To pity's name? ♪ 1176 01:03:59,363 --> 01:04:01,538 Gilbert and Sullivan? Really? 1177 01:04:01,572 --> 01:04:04,886 A rock star who has the guts to go out there 1178 01:04:04,921 --> 01:04:08,234 and do that kind of musical comedy. 1179 01:04:08,269 --> 01:04:09,373 She just didn't care. 1180 01:04:09,408 --> 01:04:12,583 To her it was like a mountain to climb. 1181 01:04:28,323 --> 01:04:30,947 Linda can bring herself to sing anything. 1182 01:04:30,981 --> 01:04:34,605 She could sing opera, she could do anything with her voice. 1183 01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,331 I couldn't do all that. 1184 01:04:49,172 --> 01:04:51,036 Kevin Kline and I were both nominated 1185 01:04:51,070 --> 01:04:52,589 for Tony Awards for that show. 1186 01:04:53,141 --> 01:04:54,556 Kevin deserved it more than I did. 1187 01:04:54,591 --> 01:04:56,489 All I did was walk around and sing. 1188 01:05:03,427 --> 01:05:05,602 My mom died during Pirates of Penzance. 1189 01:05:07,535 --> 01:05:09,502 I wasn't with her when she died. 1190 01:05:09,537 --> 01:05:12,022 And I just couldn't quite get it through my head 1191 01:05:12,057 --> 01:05:13,299 that she was gone out of the world 1192 01:05:13,334 --> 01:05:15,232 and I was never going to see her again. 1193 01:05:17,994 --> 01:05:20,237 She'd had all these records - Louis Armstrong, 1194 01:05:20,272 --> 01:05:22,067 Ella Fitzgerald, 1195 01:05:22,101 --> 01:05:24,172 Billie Holiday, Peggy Lee. 1196 01:05:24,207 --> 01:05:26,934 And I thought I'd like to try to sing some of those songs. 1197 01:05:27,210 --> 01:05:32,318 ♪ Only the lonely ♪ 1198 01:05:32,353 --> 01:05:35,528 When we lived together almost every evening the last record 1199 01:05:35,563 --> 01:05:37,496 we listened to was a Frank Sinatra album 1200 01:05:37,530 --> 01:05:39,601 called Songs for Only the Lonely. 1201 01:05:39,636 --> 01:05:41,983 With Nelson Riddle arranging. 1202 01:05:44,434 --> 01:05:48,334 Constantly people were telling Linda you can't do this. 1203 01:05:48,679 --> 01:05:50,060 I'm guilty. 1204 01:05:50,095 --> 01:05:52,752 When she was going to do the Nelson Riddle album 1205 01:05:52,787 --> 01:05:55,238 I didn't think it was a good idea, 1206 01:05:55,272 --> 01:05:57,136 not because she couldn't do it 1207 01:05:57,171 --> 01:06:00,691 but because we had this run going with rock and roll records 1208 01:06:00,726 --> 01:06:02,245 and country rock. 1209 01:06:03,729 --> 01:06:05,524 I said I'd like to find somebody that can write arrangements 1210 01:06:05,558 --> 01:06:06,974 like Nelson Riddle. 1211 01:06:07,353 --> 01:06:10,115 They said why don't you just ask Nelson Riddle? 1212 01:06:10,736 --> 01:06:13,187 Well I didn't know he was still alive. 1213 01:06:13,463 --> 01:06:15,603 You were the only person that I knew that could do 1214 01:06:15,637 --> 01:06:17,363 orchestrations like this. 1215 01:06:17,398 --> 01:06:18,675 I didn't know where you were, 1216 01:06:18,709 --> 01:06:20,608 whether you'd be interested in working with me. 1217 01:06:20,642 --> 01:06:22,541 Whether you'd ever heard of me or not. 1218 01:06:22,575 --> 01:06:24,267 And as soon as I started learning the songs 1219 01:06:24,301 --> 01:06:25,647 they just got inside me. 1220 01:06:25,682 --> 01:06:27,270 I wanted to record them and I wanted to do it 1221 01:06:27,304 --> 01:06:29,203 worse than anything I've ever wanted to do. 1222 01:06:29,237 --> 01:06:30,583 I remember your phrase for this. 1223 01:06:30,618 --> 01:06:34,311 You said these are songs I cannot not do. 1224 01:06:34,346 --> 01:06:35,692 I can't not do them. 1225 01:06:35,726 --> 01:06:38,453 At some point it's like falling in love. 1226 01:06:38,488 --> 01:06:40,110 Choice doesn't even enter into it. 1227 01:06:40,145 --> 01:06:43,217 ♪ What's new? ♪ 1228 01:06:44,114 --> 01:06:47,428 ♪ How is the world ♪ 1229 01:06:48,636 --> 01:06:51,328 ♪ Treating you? ♪ 1230 01:06:52,433 --> 01:06:54,642 I would think oh my God, how can I sing these songs? 1231 01:06:54,676 --> 01:06:57,162 Ella Fitzgerald has sung them, Billie Holiday has sing them, 1232 01:06:57,196 --> 01:06:59,095 Frank Sinatra has sung them. 1233 01:07:00,889 --> 01:07:03,720 ♪ Handsome as ever ♪ 1234 01:07:05,239 --> 01:07:07,068 She studied all of those records 1235 01:07:07,103 --> 01:07:09,726 and she studied every available version she could find 1236 01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:11,417 of each one of those songs. 1237 01:07:11,452 --> 01:07:13,385 She is a real student. 1238 01:07:13,419 --> 01:07:16,112 ♪ What's new? ♪ 1239 01:07:16,457 --> 01:07:20,357 ♪ How did that romance ♪ 1240 01:07:20,806 --> 01:07:22,808 ♪ Come through? ♪ 1241 01:07:23,291 --> 01:07:26,260 She told she wanted to get those songs out of the elevator. 1242 01:07:26,294 --> 01:07:29,125 She meant that that's the only place you heard them. 1243 01:07:29,159 --> 01:07:32,335 And she wanted to point out that that's not where they belong. 1244 01:07:32,369 --> 01:07:34,475 They were some of the best songs ever written. 1245 01:07:34,509 --> 01:07:38,582 ♪ Why am I asking what's new? ♪ 1246 01:07:39,928 --> 01:07:43,173 I went to her house and tried to talk her out of it but 1247 01:07:43,208 --> 01:07:46,349 as soon as she told me Nelson Riddle was going to do it, 1248 01:07:46,383 --> 01:07:49,559 I said well I'd like to come to the record session. 1249 01:07:59,189 --> 01:08:00,915 When my sister was in high school she got to go 1250 01:08:00,949 --> 01:08:03,331 to her senior prom and she got to wear these strapless dresses 1251 01:08:03,366 --> 01:08:04,712 with a lot of tool 1252 01:08:04,746 --> 01:08:06,886 and I always wanted one of those dresses. 1253 01:08:08,819 --> 01:08:10,718 By the time I got to high school 1254 01:08:10,752 --> 01:08:13,169 styles had changed and I never got to have one. 1255 01:08:13,203 --> 01:08:14,687 So I said I'm going to put a show together, 1256 01:08:14,722 --> 01:08:16,724 we're all going to get to wear those dresses. 1257 01:08:17,380 --> 01:08:20,831 ♪ So dream ♪ 1258 01:08:21,591 --> 01:08:25,112 ♪ Dream ♪ 1259 01:08:25,905 --> 01:08:28,563 ♪ Dream ♪ 1260 01:08:34,500 --> 01:08:35,915 This is a real treat tonight. 1261 01:08:35,950 --> 01:08:37,883 We have three marvelous singers on the show 1262 01:08:37,917 --> 01:08:40,748 and would you know how many times they have been nominated 1263 01:08:40,782 --> 01:08:42,198 for Grammys between them? 1264 01:08:42,232 --> 01:08:43,820 Forty-five times in total. 1265 01:08:48,273 --> 01:08:50,240 The albums they've all sold are in the multi-millions 1266 01:08:50,275 --> 01:08:52,449 and I guess it's taken the ladies about ten years 1267 01:08:52,484 --> 01:08:54,624 to get this together where they wanted to work together 1268 01:08:54,658 --> 01:08:58,697 and made an album called Trio and it was well worth the time. 1269 01:08:58,731 --> 01:09:00,940 The album is described as old-timey but it's sensational. 1270 01:09:00,975 --> 01:09:02,804 Would you welcome Linda Ronstadt, Dolly Parton, 1271 01:09:02,839 --> 01:09:03,943 Emmylou Harris? 1272 01:09:12,020 --> 01:09:13,505 I had met Dolly. 1273 01:09:13,539 --> 01:09:15,369 I saw her singing on the Grand Ole Opry 1274 01:09:15,403 --> 01:09:16,680 and she was a wonder to behold. 1275 01:09:16,715 --> 01:09:19,511 What you have in front of you is one of the most beautiful girls 1276 01:09:19,545 --> 01:09:20,684 you've ever seen. 1277 01:09:20,719 --> 01:09:22,410 She's just gorgeous. 1278 01:09:23,411 --> 01:09:24,654 When she opened her mouth and started to sing 1279 01:09:24,688 --> 01:09:25,793 I fell on the floor. 1280 01:09:25,827 --> 01:09:27,691 She's an amazing singer. 1281 01:09:27,726 --> 01:09:32,558 ♪ Jolene, Jolene ♪ 1282 01:09:32,972 --> 01:09:37,736 ♪ I'm begging of you Please don't take my man ♪ 1283 01:09:39,358 --> 01:09:40,808 I told Emmylou about her 1284 01:09:40,842 --> 01:09:42,741 and then Emmy met her somehow. 1285 01:09:42,775 --> 01:09:44,536 ♪ Jolene ♪ 1286 01:09:44,570 --> 01:09:48,402 When I made my first trip to Nashville the powers that be 1287 01:09:48,436 --> 01:09:51,301 set up a meeting with Dolly and she was making a record 1288 01:09:51,336 --> 01:09:54,546 in her studio and it was like unbelievable. 1289 01:09:54,580 --> 01:09:57,411 It was better than any Disneyland visit. 1290 01:09:57,445 --> 01:09:59,723 ♪ Eyes of emerald green ♪ 1291 01:09:59,758 --> 01:10:01,725 They kind of found my music somewhere 1292 01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:04,038 and kind of wanted to meet me 1293 01:10:04,072 --> 01:10:06,351 and that's kind of how we all started. 1294 01:10:07,352 --> 01:10:09,388 Emmy called me up and she's like Dolly Parton's at my house, 1295 01:10:09,423 --> 01:10:11,010 you have to come over. 1296 01:10:11,045 --> 01:10:12,805 I was living like 40 minutes away 1297 01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:14,531 and I got there in 20 minutes. 1298 01:10:14,566 --> 01:10:17,776 She came over and there we were, the three of us 1299 01:10:17,810 --> 01:10:20,261 and we were there with our idol Dolly. 1300 01:10:20,296 --> 01:10:22,539 They had this big old house, almost like a bunch of hippies 1301 01:10:22,574 --> 01:10:25,024 just living up there, different people and musicians. 1302 01:10:25,059 --> 01:10:26,647 They had different bedrooms. 1303 01:10:26,681 --> 01:10:28,614 It was just a free-for-all kind of house. 1304 01:10:28,649 --> 01:10:30,444 A dream for musicians. 1305 01:10:30,478 --> 01:10:33,964 And somebody said well sing something. 1306 01:10:33,999 --> 01:10:37,899 ♪ Bury me beneath the willow ♪ 1307 01:10:37,934 --> 01:10:40,902 ♪ Under the whipping willow Tree ♪ 1308 01:10:40,937 --> 01:10:45,562 ♪ So he may know Where I am sleeping ♪ 1309 01:10:45,597 --> 01:10:48,738 ♪ And perhaps He'll weep for me ♪ 1310 01:10:48,772 --> 01:10:50,049 So I started singing that 1311 01:10:50,084 --> 01:10:51,741 and then they started saying sing that again. 1312 01:10:51,775 --> 01:10:53,363 I go "Oh, bury me... " 1313 01:10:53,398 --> 01:10:55,020 And here come all these harmonies 1314 01:10:55,054 --> 01:10:57,678 and oh it was just chilling, chilling, chilling. 1315 01:10:57,712 --> 01:10:59,818 ♪ Beneath the willow ♪ 1316 01:10:59,852 --> 01:11:03,787 ♪ Under the weeping willow Tree ♪ 1317 01:11:03,822 --> 01:11:09,034 ♪ Well he may know Where I am sleeping ♪ 1318 01:11:09,068 --> 01:11:12,934 ♪ And perhaps He'll weep for me ♪ 1319 01:11:12,969 --> 01:11:14,936 When we heard our voices 1320 01:11:14,971 --> 01:11:18,492 it was like injecting some kind of serum into your veins. 1321 01:11:18,526 --> 01:11:20,632 It was like a high like you've never felt. 1322 01:11:20,666 --> 01:11:22,599 We sang first in a living room 1323 01:11:22,634 --> 01:11:24,049 and said well this sounds really good. 1324 01:11:24,083 --> 01:11:25,533 It was special, it was different. 1325 01:11:25,568 --> 01:11:30,642 It was like a sound of sisters, musical sisters. 1326 01:11:30,676 --> 01:11:35,888 ♪ Won't you bury me Beneath the willow ♪ 1327 01:11:35,923 --> 01:11:39,823 ♪ Under the weeping willow Tree ♪ 1328 01:11:39,858 --> 01:11:42,412 ♪ Where he may know where... ♪ 1329 01:11:42,447 --> 01:11:45,657 At that moment we thought we have to do a record. 1330 01:11:47,728 --> 01:11:51,076 ♪ To know know know him ♪ 1331 01:11:51,387 --> 01:11:55,977 ♪ Is to love love love him ♪ 1332 01:11:56,012 --> 01:12:00,119 ♪ Just to see him smile ♪ 1333 01:12:00,154 --> 01:12:04,331 ♪ Makes my life worthwhile ♪ 1334 01:12:05,539 --> 01:12:07,472 We learned so much about singing from each other 1335 01:12:07,506 --> 01:12:09,439 because you get to sort of be them for a second 1336 01:12:09,474 --> 01:12:10,923 when you're shadowing them in harmony. 1337 01:12:10,958 --> 01:12:14,168 It's like getting on an eagle and getting to see the world 1338 01:12:14,202 --> 01:12:16,515 through that eagle's experience. 1339 01:12:16,550 --> 01:12:18,172 I get to sing through Dolly's voice 1340 01:12:18,206 --> 01:12:20,899 or sing through Emmy's voice when I sing real close harmony. 1341 01:12:20,933 --> 01:12:22,590 ♪ Why ♪ 1342 01:12:23,729 --> 01:12:27,802 ♪ Can't he see me? ♪ 1343 01:12:28,803 --> 01:12:32,566 ♪ How I... ♪ 1344 01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,465 The only big disagreements would be are we going to use autoharp 1345 01:12:35,500 --> 01:12:37,605 or dulcimer on this song. 1346 01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:39,193 Yeah. 1347 01:12:39,227 --> 01:12:40,919 Sometimes we would disagree about who would sing lead 1348 01:12:40,953 --> 01:12:42,679 because Emmy and I always wanted Dolly 1349 01:12:42,714 --> 01:12:44,060 to sing lead on everything. 1350 01:12:44,094 --> 01:12:46,096 Oh, well Dolly will sound great on that. 1351 01:12:46,131 --> 01:12:48,409 You sing lead! No, you sing lead! 1352 01:12:50,480 --> 01:12:52,551 Linda is such a perfectionist. 1353 01:12:52,586 --> 01:12:54,070 She's a pain in the ass sometimes 1354 01:12:54,104 --> 01:12:56,452 because she is such a perfectionist. 1355 01:12:56,486 --> 01:12:58,764 Because she will not have it unless it's perfect. 1356 01:12:58,799 --> 01:13:01,560 She used to make me sing those harmonies over and over 1357 01:13:01,595 --> 01:13:04,805 and I said I'm going to sing it the same way no matter what. 1358 01:13:04,839 --> 01:13:06,979 No, you're not! You're going to hit this one note. 1359 01:13:07,014 --> 01:13:09,810 And see I don't know how to, all those intricate harmonies 1360 01:13:09,844 --> 01:13:11,467 like Emmylou and Linda do. 1361 01:13:11,501 --> 01:13:13,986 I just sing that raw stuff from feeling 1362 01:13:14,021 --> 01:13:17,265 and it ain't always proper but it sounds good. 1363 01:13:17,300 --> 01:13:20,993 ♪ Yes just to know ♪ 1364 01:13:21,028 --> 01:13:25,101 ♪ Is to love love love him ♪ 1365 01:13:25,135 --> 01:13:29,761 ♪ And I do ♪ 1366 01:13:32,039 --> 01:13:34,938 Linda, you've sing just about all types of music. 1367 01:13:34,973 --> 01:13:38,252 Light opera; you've been on Broadway, rock and roll, pop. 1368 01:13:38,286 --> 01:13:40,530 What's your next project going to be? 1369 01:13:40,565 --> 01:13:42,739 I'm going to do an album of Mexican music, 1370 01:13:42,774 --> 01:13:43,740 of traditional Mexican music. 1371 01:13:43,775 --> 01:13:46,467 I'm kind of a traditional Mexican myself. 1372 01:13:46,502 --> 01:13:48,711 You know, I grew up about 40 minutes from the Mexican border, 1373 01:13:48,745 --> 01:13:51,748 my family are Mexican, and that is my roots. 1374 01:13:51,783 --> 01:13:54,613 That's what I came from and I have been dying to do 1375 01:13:54,648 --> 01:13:56,063 this record for years and years 1376 01:13:56,097 --> 01:13:57,651 and I'm getting around to it this year. 1377 01:13:57,685 --> 01:13:59,791 Boy, I'm going o do it. 1378 01:14:07,005 --> 01:14:09,904 Our neighbor that lived behind us in the garage apartment 1379 01:14:09,939 --> 01:14:12,631 was Harry Dean Stanton, great character actor 1380 01:14:12,666 --> 01:14:15,565 and a great singer of Mexican folk songs. 1381 01:14:16,014 --> 01:14:18,603 We would hear him up until the wee hours singing 1382 01:14:18,637 --> 01:14:21,571 these Mexican folk songs, these canciones. 1383 01:14:21,606 --> 01:14:25,195 And Linda knew all those songs. 1384 01:14:25,230 --> 01:14:28,129 I don't think people thought of her as... 1385 01:14:28,164 --> 01:14:30,615 as Mexican. 1386 01:14:30,925 --> 01:14:33,652 It certainly never came up. I never heard it. 1387 01:14:33,687 --> 01:14:36,690 I mean, the name Ronstadt is not Hernandez. 1388 01:14:36,724 --> 01:14:38,554 Ronstadt is a German-sounding name. 1389 01:14:38,588 --> 01:14:42,558 No, she's certainly from Mexican heritage 1390 01:14:42,592 --> 01:14:44,905 but it wasn't the most apparent thing. 1391 01:14:44,939 --> 01:14:46,941 I want to see where you put your D. 1392 01:14:46,976 --> 01:14:49,565 Say ganador. 1393 01:14:49,599 --> 01:14:51,739 Ga... 1394 01:14:51,774 --> 01:14:54,708 The phrasing, Ganador. 1395 01:14:54,742 --> 01:14:58,781 Ganador. 1396 01:14:58,815 --> 01:15:00,817 - Dor? - Mm-hm. Mm-hm. 1397 01:15:00,852 --> 01:15:03,717 Is it on the roof of your mouth, the back of your teeth or... 1398 01:15:04,234 --> 01:15:07,341 When he asked me if I would sing a harmony on his record 1399 01:15:07,375 --> 01:15:09,170 I was completely delighted 1400 01:15:09,205 --> 01:15:12,588 because you can only learn by doing. I can't... 1401 01:15:13,036 --> 01:15:14,831 there isn't a book you can get, you know, 1402 01:15:14,866 --> 01:15:17,834 how do you learn how to be a singer in Spanish? 1403 01:15:17,869 --> 01:15:20,009 It's always been a dream of mine to make an album 1404 01:15:20,043 --> 01:15:22,977 of these Mexican songs that I learned from my father. 1405 01:15:30,260 --> 01:15:31,986 My father had a beautiful baritone voice. 1406 01:15:32,021 --> 01:15:34,368 He sounded like a cross between Pedro Infante 1407 01:15:34,402 --> 01:15:36,232 and Frank Sinatra. 1408 01:15:37,302 --> 01:15:40,029 Always if there was a dinner party or something he'd get the 1409 01:15:40,063 --> 01:15:43,653 guitar out and he'd just sing and I always would fall asleep 1410 01:15:43,688 --> 01:15:46,898 in somebody's lap listening to my dad sing some beautiful song. 1411 01:15:49,141 --> 01:15:52,282 We always as a family, we always sang in Spanish. 1412 01:15:52,317 --> 01:15:55,354 Even though I didn't understand much of what I was singing, 1413 01:15:55,389 --> 01:15:56,942 it was something that I learned to do. 1414 01:15:56,977 --> 01:15:58,772 It's kind of like lip reading, you know. 1415 01:15:58,806 --> 01:16:02,016 I used to kind of chameleon in harmony along with my father. 1416 01:16:07,746 --> 01:16:11,025 To learn to sing that style as a grown-up professional singer, 1417 01:16:11,060 --> 01:16:12,648 that took some doing. 1418 01:16:40,814 --> 01:16:43,161 I always forget the beginning where I go through the ending 1419 01:16:43,195 --> 01:16:44,749 and it makes it so hard. 1420 01:16:44,783 --> 01:16:46,405 Oh yeah. What was it, this way? 1421 01:16:46,440 --> 01:16:47,959 Is that how you do it? The Latin way. 1422 01:16:47,993 --> 01:16:49,339 Okay, I got it. 1423 01:16:50,962 --> 01:16:52,895 Okay, I'm learning all these new things. 1424 01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:03,043 My dad invited me to go to the Tucson Mariachi Conference 1425 01:17:03,077 --> 01:17:06,011 and that way I got to meet the Mariachi Vargas. 1426 01:17:09,049 --> 01:17:12,121 Those good bands like the Cobre or the Camperos 1427 01:17:12,155 --> 01:17:14,157 or the Mariachi Vargas, you're going to go to a symphony 1428 01:17:14,192 --> 01:17:15,952 and you're not going to find better musicians. 1429 01:17:15,987 --> 01:17:17,920 They're all virtuoso players. 1430 01:17:23,477 --> 01:17:25,375 I picked a couple of songs. 1431 01:17:26,307 --> 01:17:28,413 The band said these songs are very traditional 1432 01:17:28,447 --> 01:17:30,380 and they're very difficult to do. 1433 01:17:31,209 --> 01:17:33,038 I said well, they're the only songs I know 1434 01:17:33,073 --> 01:17:34,971 so we better learn them. 1435 01:17:42,185 --> 01:17:43,980 I went to the president of my record company, 1436 01:17:44,015 --> 01:17:46,396 who's a man who genuinely likes music, and I said look, 1437 01:17:46,431 --> 01:17:48,191 I made all these records for you, they saw this. 1438 01:17:48,226 --> 01:17:49,848 I'm going to do this just for me 1439 01:17:49,883 --> 01:17:50,780 and this might be self-indulgent. 1440 01:17:50,815 --> 01:17:52,195 If it sells two copies I don't care 1441 01:17:52,230 --> 01:17:54,715 but if I can't record this music I'm going to die. 1442 01:17:55,854 --> 01:17:58,029 I don't understand any Spanish. 1443 01:17:58,063 --> 01:18:02,033 I didn't understand how popular those songs were 1444 01:18:02,067 --> 01:18:06,762 but this is a lady who wanted to do it her way 1445 01:18:06,796 --> 01:18:08,556 and who was going to say no? 1446 01:18:41,348 --> 01:18:44,213 Canciones de mi Padre, it's the largest selling 1447 01:18:44,247 --> 01:18:47,147 Spanish language album in the history of the industry. 1448 01:18:47,181 --> 01:18:50,944 That's the whole Linda Ronstadt story right there in a nutshell. 1449 01:18:50,978 --> 01:18:54,119 Linda deciding she wants to do something, 1450 01:18:54,154 --> 01:18:56,846 the record company telling her she can't. 1451 01:18:56,881 --> 01:18:58,952 She goes ahead and does it anyway 1452 01:18:58,986 --> 01:19:03,439 and they jump on board as the thing starts to take off. 1453 01:19:05,027 --> 01:19:07,408 Toda la Familia would come and they loved it 1454 01:19:07,443 --> 01:19:10,032 because they were here from Mexico. 1455 01:19:10,066 --> 01:19:13,104 Even though their kids had grown up here 1456 01:19:13,138 --> 01:19:15,175 and become American citizens, 1457 01:19:15,209 --> 01:19:18,247 who is this girl singing songs so beautifully. 1458 01:19:27,428 --> 01:19:29,223 The fact that she went on and did that 1459 01:19:29,258 --> 01:19:31,432 and did it in such a big way. 1460 01:19:31,639 --> 01:19:33,400 It was a brave thing to do. 1461 01:19:33,434 --> 01:19:35,160 Many people would have been terrified 1462 01:19:35,195 --> 01:19:36,990 I'll mess up my career. 1463 01:19:37,645 --> 01:19:42,409 But obviously she had purpose, personal decision. 1464 01:19:43,375 --> 01:19:44,514 It's good. 1465 01:20:21,931 --> 01:20:24,900 To have that traditionalism going along on the bus with me 1466 01:20:24,934 --> 01:20:27,178 from town to town where I'd only sung pop music, 1467 01:20:27,212 --> 01:20:30,008 to take that part of the dirt with me, you know, 1468 01:20:30,043 --> 01:20:33,011 the part of the soil of the land where I came from to Cleveland 1469 01:20:33,046 --> 01:20:35,324 and Cincinnati and New York, that was a thrill. 1470 01:20:35,358 --> 01:20:37,395 You should have seen Central Park with, you know, 1471 01:20:37,429 --> 01:20:40,122 close to a million people in it when the mariachi 1472 01:20:40,156 --> 01:20:42,607 got up on stage with their big hats, the place fell out. 1473 01:20:42,641 --> 01:20:45,092 They went nuts. There was such a thing of pride 1474 01:20:45,127 --> 01:20:47,163 that went from the stage to the audience. 1475 01:20:47,198 --> 01:20:48,509 It was just great. 1476 01:20:49,994 --> 01:20:53,307 This song was written by me and my father 1477 01:20:53,342 --> 01:20:55,862 and it's called Lo Siento Mi Vida. 1478 01:21:01,695 --> 01:21:03,939 My dad died when he was 84. 1479 01:21:05,423 --> 01:21:08,564 There was a kind of a peace that happened when he died. 1480 01:21:10,946 --> 01:21:13,120 In the three of four days before he died he was reading to us 1481 01:21:13,155 --> 01:21:16,365 passages from Gabriel Garcia Marquez's book 1482 01:21:16,399 --> 01:21:20,024 Love in the Time of Cholera and it was just a great sharing. 1483 01:21:22,681 --> 01:21:25,132 It was a different experience being with my father 1484 01:21:25,167 --> 01:21:27,410 when he died than it was with my mother. 1485 01:21:28,653 --> 01:21:31,587 I knew I was going to miss him but I accepted it better. 1486 01:21:43,357 --> 01:21:45,946 He had what I would describe as a beautiful death. 1487 01:21:50,330 --> 01:21:52,470 I'd seen her on TV and I thought she was great 1488 01:21:52,504 --> 01:21:56,025 but when she came to New Orleans she was just 1489 01:21:56,060 --> 01:21:59,995 so down to earth and girl next door thing. 1490 01:22:00,374 --> 01:22:02,342 And just humble. 1491 01:22:03,377 --> 01:22:05,655 She was just a sweet, humble person. 1492 01:22:07,002 --> 01:22:10,143 I'd been in New Orleans for the World's Fair 1493 01:22:10,177 --> 01:22:12,007 and somebody said well the Neville Brothers are playing 1494 01:22:12,041 --> 01:22:14,043 at some club down in the Quarter. We should go. 1495 01:22:14,078 --> 01:22:16,252 We going to get serious, serious right now. 1496 01:22:16,287 --> 01:22:19,324 I'm going to turn you on to our brother Aaron Neville. 1497 01:22:19,359 --> 01:22:20,567 Aaron Neville was on stage singing 1498 01:22:20,601 --> 01:22:22,500 this beautiful song Arianne. 1499 01:22:22,534 --> 01:22:24,088 ♪ Arianne is April morning ♪ 1500 01:22:27,298 --> 01:22:31,336 ♪ That comes rippling Through my window ♪ 1501 01:22:31,543 --> 01:22:35,340 ♪ She's the smell of coffee brewing ♪ 1502 01:22:35,651 --> 01:22:39,517 ♪ On a quiet, rainy Sunday ♪ 1503 01:22:39,724 --> 01:22:41,484 Somebody told me she was in the audience 1504 01:22:41,519 --> 01:22:43,555 so I called her up on stage. 1505 01:22:43,590 --> 01:22:45,454 Sing some doo wop. 1506 01:22:46,110 --> 01:22:47,559 Usually I'll never do anything like that 1507 01:22:47,594 --> 01:22:49,768 because I like to rehearse everything first. 1508 01:22:49,803 --> 01:22:52,150 But I wasn't going to say no to Aaron Neville. 1509 01:22:52,357 --> 01:22:54,739 After that I asked for an autograph. 1510 01:22:54,773 --> 01:22:57,397 She said To Aaron, Love, I'll sing with you anytime, 1511 01:22:57,431 --> 01:23:00,296 any place, anywhere in any key. 1512 01:23:06,682 --> 01:23:08,753 ♪ Look at this face ♪ 1513 01:23:08,787 --> 01:23:10,272 The next morning I woke up 1514 01:23:10,306 --> 01:23:11,790 and my first thought was boy I like singing 1515 01:23:11,825 --> 01:23:13,482 with Aaron Neville. That sounded pretty good. 1516 01:23:13,516 --> 01:23:15,311 And then I thought, you idiot, everybody sounds good 1517 01:23:15,346 --> 01:23:17,348 when they sing with Aaron Neville. 1518 01:23:18,418 --> 01:23:21,283 I said we got to make a record together and he was up for it. 1519 01:23:21,317 --> 01:23:23,319 ♪ I don't know much ♪ 1520 01:23:24,631 --> 01:23:27,772 ♪ But I know I love you ♪ 1521 01:23:31,293 --> 01:23:36,401 ♪ And that may be All I need to know ♪ 1522 01:23:37,782 --> 01:23:40,612 There were all kind of rumors going on... 1523 01:23:41,682 --> 01:23:44,754 They say oh Linda and Aaron got married or whatever. 1524 01:23:45,445 --> 01:23:47,067 Just crazy stuff. 1525 01:23:47,102 --> 01:23:49,552 ♪ Look at these dreams ♪ 1526 01:23:50,105 --> 01:23:54,350 ♪ So beaten And so battered ♪ 1527 01:23:54,385 --> 01:23:56,456 ♪ I don't know much ♪ 1528 01:23:56,490 --> 01:23:58,596 The producer told us if you don't make it look real 1529 01:23:58,630 --> 01:24:02,117 ain't no sense doing it. So we had to make it look real. 1530 01:24:04,567 --> 01:24:08,778 ♪ That may be All there is ♪ 1531 01:24:09,503 --> 01:24:12,644 ♪ To know ♪ 1532 01:24:15,268 --> 01:24:19,617 At the studio I said I'll see you at the Grammys. 1533 01:24:24,553 --> 01:24:27,107 I had a speech but 1534 01:24:28,419 --> 01:24:31,663 Too nervous. I just want to say thank you to Linda first. 1535 01:24:32,733 --> 01:24:34,528 And my wife Joelle. 1536 01:24:36,944 --> 01:24:38,774 Aaron and I won two Grammys for that record. 1537 01:24:40,741 --> 01:24:43,227 But as time went on there was something really wrong 1538 01:24:43,261 --> 01:24:44,676 with my voice. 1539 01:24:46,885 --> 01:24:50,648 I just lost a lot of different colors in my voice. 1540 01:24:51,580 --> 01:24:53,237 There's a lot of things you do in singing. 1541 01:24:53,271 --> 01:24:56,792 You turn your voice to different planes to make different sounds 1542 01:24:56,826 --> 01:24:58,621 and I couldn't do any of that. 1543 01:25:01,831 --> 01:25:04,386 Turned out I had Parkinson's disease. 1544 01:25:06,664 --> 01:25:08,700 Singing is really complex 1545 01:25:08,735 --> 01:25:12,221 and I was made most aware of it by having it vanish. 1546 01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:16,812 I can still sing in my mind but I can't do it physically. 1547 01:25:19,194 --> 01:25:23,163 I sang my last concert on November 7th, 2009. 1548 01:25:23,577 --> 01:25:25,269 It was a Mexican show. 1549 01:25:26,822 --> 01:25:30,791 Must have been quite a reckoning 1550 01:25:30,826 --> 01:25:33,449 to have this marvelous instrument 1551 01:25:33,484 --> 01:25:35,348 that could always hold the notes, hit the notes 1552 01:25:35,382 --> 01:25:36,970 and shape the notes, 1553 01:25:37,004 --> 01:25:39,731 could no longer hold the notes without quiver. 1554 01:25:41,906 --> 01:25:44,288 But there's a lot of good records with 1555 01:25:44,322 --> 01:25:45,979 her magnificent voice on them 1556 01:25:46,013 --> 01:25:48,775 and I hear her laughing in my head all the time. 1557 01:25:48,809 --> 01:25:50,708 I hear that cackle all the time. 1558 01:25:51,536 --> 01:25:53,469 I'm sort of never without her. 1559 01:25:56,300 --> 01:26:00,442 I could imagine not being able to sing for Linda is awful. 1560 01:26:00,856 --> 01:26:06,551 But I also know nobody who could handle that kind of change 1561 01:26:06,586 --> 01:26:10,210 or adjustment in a more logical and thoughtful 1562 01:26:10,245 --> 01:26:12,557 and intelligent way than Linda. 1563 01:26:14,352 --> 01:26:16,561 I don't think she misses going on the road. 1564 01:26:16,837 --> 01:26:19,564 I don't think she misses making records. 1565 01:26:21,359 --> 01:26:24,397 I think she misses singing with her friends 1566 01:26:24,431 --> 01:26:27,400 and singing in the living room with her family. 1567 01:26:29,540 --> 01:26:31,438 There's just no one on the planet 1568 01:26:31,473 --> 01:26:35,615 that ever had or ever will have a voice like Linda's. 1569 01:26:47,627 --> 01:26:49,491 You know, I'm grateful for the time I had. 1570 01:26:49,525 --> 01:26:53,219 I got to live a lot of my dreams and I feel lucky about it. 1571 01:26:56,049 --> 01:26:58,431 Another person with Parkinson's said that life after death 1572 01:26:58,465 --> 01:26:59,811 isn't the question. 1573 01:27:01,848 --> 01:27:03,712 It's life before death. 1574 01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:07,888 So how are you going to do it? 1575 01:27:09,062 --> 01:27:10,684 How are you going to live? 1576 01:28:07,154 --> 01:28:08,708 Couldn't find a part there. 1577 01:28:08,984 --> 01:28:10,468 Start right there. 1578 01:28:18,511 --> 01:28:20,651 I don't even have that note in my speaking range anymore. 1579 01:28:22,377 --> 01:28:25,725 Before you said you couldn't sing anymore. 1580 01:28:25,759 --> 01:28:27,416 This isn't really singing. 1581 01:28:27,934 --> 01:28:30,833 Believe me, it's a few notes. 1582 01:28:30,868 --> 01:28:33,629 - But it's not really singing. - Are you enjoying it? 1583 01:28:33,664 --> 01:28:35,459 Well, I would enjoy it much more if I could sing 1584 01:28:35,493 --> 01:28:37,426 but I can't let them sing this without me. 1585 01:28:38,185 --> 01:28:39,911 It's a family thing. 1586 01:28:40,533 --> 01:28:42,811 Shall we? You guys ready? 1587 01:30:00,475 --> 01:30:02,477 - Do we get to eat? - Yes. 1588 01:30:02,511 --> 01:30:03,995 Good. 1589 01:30:04,030 --> 01:30:07,447 ♪ I've been cheated ♪ 1590 01:30:07,792 --> 01:30:11,002 ♪ Been mistreated ♪ 1591 01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:16,836 ♪ When will I love be loved? ♪ 1592 01:30:18,769 --> 01:30:21,806 ♪ I've been put down ♪ 1593 01:30:22,220 --> 01:30:25,223 ♪ I've been pushed around ♪ 1594 01:30:25,741 --> 01:30:30,677 ♪ When will I be loved? ♪ 1595 01:30:32,817 --> 01:30:35,924 ♪ When I find a new man ♪ 1596 01:30:36,269 --> 01:30:38,823 ♪ That I want for mine ♪ 1597 01:30:39,790 --> 01:30:42,931 ♪ Always breaks My heart in two ♪ 1598 01:30:42,965 --> 01:30:47,763 ♪ It happens every time ♪ 1599 01:30:48,833 --> 01:30:51,940 ♪ I've been made blue ♪ 1600 01:30:52,216 --> 01:30:55,495 ♪ I've been lied to ♪ 1601 01:30:55,875 --> 01:31:00,983 ♪ When will I be loved? ♪ 1602 01:31:17,206 --> 01:31:20,209 ♪ When I find a new man ♪ 1603 01:31:20,727 --> 01:31:23,765 ♪ That I want for mine ♪ 1604 01:31:24,110 --> 01:31:27,251 ♪ He always breaks My heart in two ♪ 1605 01:31:27,285 --> 01:31:32,083 ♪ It happens every time ♪ 1606 01:31:33,188 --> 01:31:36,191 ♪ I've been cheated ♪ 1607 01:31:36,778 --> 01:31:39,815 ♪ Been mistreated ♪ 1608 01:31:40,229 --> 01:31:45,131 ♪ When will I be loved? ♪ 1609 01:31:47,685 --> 01:31:52,172 ♪ When will I be loved? ♪ 1610 01:31:53,242 --> 01:31:54,623 ♪ Tell me ♪ 1611 01:31:54,658 --> 01:31:57,971 ♪ When will I ♪ 1612 01:31:58,247 --> 01:32:00,042 ♪ Be ♪ 1613 01:32:01,009 --> 01:32:05,910 ♪ Loved? ♪ 1614 01:32:21,408 --> 01:32:24,135 ♪ Where have you gone? ♪ 1615 01:32:24,170 --> 01:32:26,897 ♪ My darling one ♪ 1616 01:32:27,276 --> 01:32:29,865 ♪ Are you on your own? ♪ 1617 01:32:30,383 --> 01:32:32,868 ♪ Are you having fun? ♪ 1618 01:32:33,213 --> 01:32:36,147 ♪ Is there someone to hold ♪ 1619 01:32:36,354 --> 01:32:39,116 ♪ When you need it bad? ♪ 1620 01:32:39,357 --> 01:32:42,222 ♪ Is it controlled? ♪ 1621 01:32:42,637 --> 01:32:47,676 ♪ Like the love we had? ♪ 1622 01:32:48,781 --> 01:32:51,059 ♪ Does the day go by ♪ 1623 01:32:51,749 --> 01:32:54,062 ♪ Like a memory? ♪ 1624 01:32:54,787 --> 01:32:57,617 ♪ Do you ever try ♪ 1625 01:32:57,652 --> 01:33:00,275 ♪ To remember me? ♪ 1626 01:33:00,862 --> 01:33:03,830 ♪ In an automobile ♪ 1627 01:33:03,865 --> 01:33:06,350 ♪ Or a crowded bar ♪ 1628 01:33:06,902 --> 01:33:09,387 ♪ Well I hope You're all right ♪ 1629 01:33:09,974 --> 01:33:14,772 ♪ Wherever you are ♪ 1630 01:33:15,704 --> 01:33:20,191 ♪ If you're still within The sound of my voice ♪ 1631 01:33:20,916 --> 01:33:24,368 ♪ Over some radio ♪ 1632 01:33:24,782 --> 01:33:27,820 ♪ I just want you to know ♪ 1633 01:33:27,854 --> 01:33:32,169 ♪ You were always My only choice ♪ 1634 01:33:33,964 --> 01:33:36,622 ♪ And wherever you go ♪ 1635 01:33:36,898 --> 01:33:39,935 ♪ That I still love you so ♪ 1636 01:33:39,970 --> 01:33:44,837 ♪ If you're still within The sound of my voice ♪ 130012

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