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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 2 00:00:03,336 --> 00:00:06,255 Plus size modeling is like, 3 00:00:06,339 --> 00:00:09,299 there's like this frame of thought around it you know, and like- 5 00:00:09,384 --> 00:00:13,053 When I first started, I thought like-- Okay plus size modeling, 6 00:00:13,138 --> 00:00:16,306 sometimes you think like, oh, that section in Walmart. You know, or-- 7 00:00:17,058 --> 00:00:20,352 I would like, oh my god I'm in this wrong section kind of thing, you know? 8 00:00:21,021 --> 00:00:23,147 But like, I don't know. 9 00:00:23,231 --> 00:00:28,277 Plus size modeling isn't what it used to be or what it is in a lot of people's minds. 10 00:00:28,361 --> 00:00:32,322 If I tell people I'm a plus size model some of them are like, -ou're plus size? 12 00:02:30,608 --> 00:02:36,822 The smaller end of curve, which is I hate to say it, but from like a UK size 10 to a 14. 13 00:02:36,906 --> 00:02:42,327 And then a plus size model here in Australia that works the most, is a size 14. 14 00:02:42,412 --> 00:02:46,331 No, no, no, no, we start, well in French - it's 40, so that means 10. 15 00:02:46,416 --> 00:02:48,083 From a 14 upwards. 16 00:02:48,168 --> 00:02:49,251 Size 10, size 12. 17 00:02:49,335 --> 00:02:51,420 Then drop to a size 12. 18 00:02:51,504 --> 00:02:52,754 We go until 15. 19 00:02:52,839 --> 00:02:54,131 Now dropped to a size 10. 20 00:02:54,257 --> 00:02:55,799 Now up to size 18, size 20. 21 00:02:55,884 --> 00:02:58,427 17, uh 18 in US. 22 00:02:58,511 --> 00:03:00,095 Uh, UK 18. 23 00:03:00,180 --> 00:03:01,763 -US 12. -Like 16 18. 24 00:03:01,848 --> 00:03:02,639 14. 44, it's 14. 25 00:03:02,724 --> 00:03:06,560 16 to 20, 10, 16, 12, 10, 18, 20, 18. 26 00:03:06,644 --> 00:03:07,853 America, UK, 20, UK. 27 00:03:11,191 --> 00:03:14,818 As an editor, I've never put a plus sized model on the cover. 28 00:03:20,241 --> 00:03:25,329 You mean curvier size? Um, certainly Kim Kardashian. 29 00:03:25,413 --> 00:03:31,168 We would often put Kate Winslet on the cover for example who's a little bit more voluptuous. 30 00:03:31,294 --> 00:03:35,589 Kate Upton, Robyn Lawley, Beyonc, the Kardashians and you know they've got curves. 31 00:03:35,673 --> 00:03:39,801 If you look at that pool of women, there are big name celebrities that are- 32 00:03:39,886 --> 00:03:43,764 embody the sense of fun, fearlessness that is synonymous with the Cosmo brand 33 00:03:43,848 --> 00:03:48,810 and are 18 to 35, there aren't a hell of a lot of women that are curvy. 34 00:03:48,895 --> 00:03:52,814 [Kellie] The perfect girls, unfortunately, sell better than the plus size girls. 35 00:03:52,899 --> 00:03:56,693 If we put X model on the cover, it won't sell and that's my job. 36 00:03:56,778 --> 00:03:57,819 I'm running a business. 37 00:03:57,904 --> 00:04:00,322 So, I think people say that they want to see this, 38 00:04:00,406 --> 00:04:02,324 but the reality is they're not going to buy it. 39 00:04:02,408 --> 00:04:04,826 They're going to go and buy the magazine where the girl who's perfect 40 00:04:04,911 --> 00:04:06,828 and she's airbrushed within an inch of her life. 41 00:04:06,913 --> 00:04:10,624 Why wouldn't you put a random girl on the cover who's curvy or whatever else? 42 00:04:10,708 --> 00:04:15,420 And it's like, well, because maybe that person's mother would buy it and the relatives, 43 00:04:15,505 --> 00:04:22,219 but if we're a mass magazine trying to get a lot of women to pick up and buy this 44 00:04:22,345 --> 00:04:25,764 because ultimately, we are a business and we need to make money. 45 00:04:25,848 --> 00:04:29,935 As we say here fit is the new rich, it's you know people, I think there is an element 46 00:04:30,019 --> 00:04:33,855 of that that we are a magazine that, you know, focuses on the AB demographic. 47 00:04:33,940 --> 00:04:38,235 So yeah that's the, you know, educated and wealthy individuals. 48 00:04:38,319 --> 00:04:42,906 I think there is that desire for perfection and still in society sometimes perfection 49 00:04:42,991 --> 00:04:46,827 means thin and trim and blonde and blue-eyed and beautiful. 50 00:04:48,913 --> 00:04:54,251 Hi Elly, my name is Jaclyn Sarka and I'm one of the Founders of JAG models in New York City. 51 00:04:54,335 --> 00:04:57,379 Wanted to write you and see if you have any modeling representation 52 00:04:57,463 --> 00:04:58,714 or if you're looking for some. 53 00:04:58,798 --> 00:05:03,302 I'm not sure if you've ever heard of us but myself and my co-founder Gary Dakin 54 00:05:04,345 --> 00:05:07,597 used to run the Plus board at FORD Models before it closed down. 55 00:05:07,682 --> 00:05:09,808 If you have any interest please email me back. 56 00:05:09,892 --> 00:05:13,228 We would love for you to join our JAG roster and family. 57 00:05:13,313 --> 00:05:18,275 So yeah, they pretty much just offered me the best contract I could have hoped for 58 00:05:18,359 --> 00:05:21,278 and honestly I haven't even looked at it because I'm just, 59 00:05:21,404 --> 00:05:25,532 I'm so excited that I don't even want to open up that book yet 60 00:05:25,616 --> 00:05:27,659 because once I get excited about something, 61 00:05:27,744 --> 00:05:29,369 like, I can't get my mind off of it. 62 00:05:29,454 --> 00:05:34,750 So, I'm holding back a lot of excitement to start this part of my life and to go to New York 63 00:05:34,834 --> 00:05:39,254 and to do those kind of photo shoots will be insane 64 00:05:39,339 --> 00:05:43,342 and it would be mental to do something like it would be beyond my wildest dreams. 65 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,851 ...is worn by the ever so elegant, Elly Mayday. 66 00:05:55,396 --> 00:06:00,484 Elly is gracing the stage in this smashing five-collection satin and lace corset. 68 00:06:15,708 --> 00:06:17,667 My name is Elly Mayday. 69 00:06:18,378 --> 00:06:21,380 I am a plus size model. 70 00:06:26,636 --> 00:06:31,390 That's the number one question I get asked is "How did you begin? How did you start out?" Right? 71 00:06:38,731 --> 00:06:40,899 When I first started out no one wanted me. 72 00:06:40,983 --> 00:06:45,821 The agencies were like -Oh, you're not that tall, you're not too big, you're not too small.- 73 00:06:45,905 --> 00:06:48,448 So, I just thought, okay, I've got to build my portfolio. 74 00:06:49,158 --> 00:06:50,325 And so, that's the first thing I worked on. 75 00:06:50,410 --> 00:06:53,912 And I looked on Craigslist and found different photographers 76 00:06:53,996 --> 00:06:58,542 that want to TFP which I didn't know what that meant, I had to like Google it. 77 00:06:58,626 --> 00:07:00,919 Trade for Print means that no one gets paid. 78 00:07:02,588 --> 00:07:04,548 I approached clothing companies because I was like, 79 00:07:04,632 --> 00:07:07,801 -Who will take my photo and pay me for it locally?- 80 00:07:08,845 --> 00:07:11,513 I approached Cherry Velvet Plus Clothing. 81 00:07:11,597 --> 00:07:15,851 They used me for an ad at Save on Meats downtown Vancouver. 82 00:07:18,604 --> 00:07:24,943 That was pretty much my first paid photo shoot, ever and that was like pretty recently. 83 00:07:25,027 --> 00:07:27,154 That was seven, eight months ago now. 84 00:07:27,864 --> 00:07:29,865 Seeing it in a magazine was pretty cool too. 85 00:07:29,949 --> 00:07:32,492 It's at the back, so I'm just saying, I'm joking with everyone 86 00:07:32,577 --> 00:07:33,869 that I'm working my way to get on the cover. 87 00:07:34,829 --> 00:07:39,624 That's my motivation, is working from those back ads that no one looks at 88 00:07:40,877 --> 00:07:43,003 to the, the girl on the cover. 89 00:07:59,687 --> 00:08:02,397 My name's Laura Wells and I'm a full-time plus size model. 90 00:08:02,482 --> 00:08:08,028 I'm also an environmental scientist in my off time, but full-time I work as a model. 91 00:08:15,828 --> 00:08:17,120 Never. 92 00:08:17,205 --> 00:08:19,831 I've never ever once thought about being a model. 93 00:08:19,916 --> 00:08:22,000 Because I never thought I could be a model. 94 00:08:22,084 --> 00:08:23,627 I always knew I was bigger. 95 00:08:23,711 --> 00:08:25,962 I'd never ever heard of plus size modeling 96 00:08:26,047 --> 00:08:30,509 and I never used to see pictures of girls that looked like me in magazines. 98 00:08:36,974 --> 00:08:41,937 When I was in high school and my sister was around 12-13 years old, she became a model. 99 00:08:42,021 --> 00:08:46,149 My body shape doesn't look anything like hers, so there was no way in hell that 100 00:08:46,234 --> 00:08:48,026 I ever thought that I could be a model. 101 00:08:48,694 --> 00:08:51,780 My sister was seeing agents in New York City at the time. 102 00:08:51,864 --> 00:08:54,783 When I started getting approached to be a plus size model 103 00:08:54,867 --> 00:08:57,035 I thought they were crazy. 104 00:08:57,119 --> 00:09:01,790 Just thought everyone was calling me fat and I wasn't very happy. [chuckles] 105 00:09:01,874 --> 00:09:07,003 But after that I got approached in Sydney again, so Mum took me to BGM Models 106 00:09:07,088 --> 00:09:10,882 and she signed me which was amazing. 107 00:09:10,967 --> 00:09:16,638 About two weeks later, I got a job and it was completely incredible and mind-blowing. 108 00:09:16,722 --> 00:09:20,684 I think it showed me, -Wow. There, you know I can do this.- 109 00:09:20,768 --> 00:09:22,644 Even though I was still really uncomfortable. 110 00:09:24,188 --> 00:09:29,651 So, I had this dilemma, do I be scientist Laura or do I be model Laura? 111 00:09:29,735 --> 00:09:31,653 I thought, -Okay, I'll give it one year. 112 00:09:31,737 --> 00:09:34,072 I'm doing modeling for one year, that's it.- 113 00:09:34,156 --> 00:09:38,868 And I did it. I modeled in Australia for one year and I did quite well 114 00:09:38,953 --> 00:09:42,831 and I was one of the only full-time plus size models in Australia at that stage. 115 00:09:42,915 --> 00:09:47,043 I worked in Germany, I worked in South Africa, I worked in Spain and Scotland 116 00:09:47,128 --> 00:09:51,256 and I get to go to all these cool places and meet all these cool people 117 00:09:51,340 --> 00:09:55,677 and model for all these companies that I've never heard of before. This is unreal. 118 00:09:55,761 --> 00:10:00,807 Like, who my age gets to travel around the world and be paid for it? That's amazing! 119 00:10:00,891 --> 00:10:05,186 lf I'd have ditched modeling altogether, and just gone straight to science, 120 00:10:05,271 --> 00:10:08,106 I would have been in a completely different position than I am now. 121 00:10:08,190 --> 00:10:11,651 And I actually wouldn't have realized what my passion was 122 00:10:11,736 --> 00:10:15,530 if I had have gone into a normal corporate environmental science job. 123 00:10:15,615 --> 00:10:19,701 I wouldn't have had that availability to me it would have been a lot harder to get there. 124 00:10:19,785 --> 00:10:21,870 Now that I have got that name for myself, 125 00:10:21,954 --> 00:10:28,043 I have been able to combine the science and the modeling a little bit, which is awesome. 126 00:10:28,127 --> 00:10:33,840 and I feel like a bit of a Captain Planet type person, joining my powers together. 127 00:10:36,927 --> 00:10:38,720 My name's Kerosene Deluxe. 128 00:10:38,804 --> 00:10:42,307 I am an alternative plus size model. 129 00:10:42,391 --> 00:10:43,266 Perfect. 130 00:10:43,351 --> 00:10:45,810 And just bring that other hand in a little bit more. 131 00:10:47,021 --> 00:10:50,857 I was born in Amsterdam, the Netherlands. 133 00:10:53,944 --> 00:10:56,029 That was an awesome shoot, thank you guys. 134 00:11:10,211 --> 00:11:15,090 When I was in my mid-teens my friends and I went out dancing. 135 00:11:15,174 --> 00:11:18,301 Snuck into a club a little bit too young. 136 00:11:18,386 --> 00:11:20,762 We were dancing and having a good time. 137 00:11:20,846 --> 00:11:27,185 And suddenly a stranger decided to grope my chest from the back. 138 00:11:30,272 --> 00:11:34,651 Me being quite an angry rebellious teenager at the time, 139 00:11:34,735 --> 00:11:40,949 turned around without really thinking and punched the guy in the nose, incredibly hard. 140 00:11:43,703 --> 00:11:48,289 That resulted in my friends, kind of, teasing me about it for the upcoming months, 141 00:11:48,374 --> 00:11:51,292 saying that I was flammable like kerosene. 142 00:11:52,420 --> 00:11:57,006 When it was time for me to take my modeling to the next level, 143 00:11:57,091 --> 00:12:00,343 I was really looking for a new stage name. 144 00:12:00,428 --> 00:12:05,974 My friends were like well you already have a nickname so why don't you just use that? 145 00:12:06,058 --> 00:12:12,397 So yeah, it became Kerosene and I just kind of added the Deluxe part to sound fancy. 147 00:12:14,734 --> 00:12:19,320 I never, growing up, thought about modeling. 148 00:12:19,405 --> 00:12:24,284 I wanted to be an air hostess or a mermaid. 149 00:12:24,368 --> 00:12:26,995 I wanted to be a dolphin trainer as well. 150 00:12:29,749 --> 00:12:35,837 I would like, get towels and I would wrap my legs in towels and I would like make fake fins. 151 00:12:35,921 --> 00:12:39,382 Then, I would call my grandma -Grandma! Come into the room.- 152 00:12:39,467 --> 00:12:42,427 And I would be sitting there with like my towel tail. 153 00:12:42,511 --> 00:12:44,137 -I'm a mermaid!- 154 00:12:47,349 --> 00:12:48,933 I still want to be a mermaid. 155 00:12:49,018 --> 00:12:52,228 I don't care if I'm 27, I still want to be a mermaid. 156 00:12:55,816 --> 00:12:58,735 Modeling for me happened by accident. 157 00:12:58,861 --> 00:13:04,407 One day I met a photographer in Amsterdam who invited me to do a photo shoot 158 00:13:04,492 --> 00:13:06,701 and I was a little bit of a ham. 159 00:13:06,786 --> 00:13:11,456 So, I was like, "Yeah, sure, a photo shoot, fun." Modeling can be so extremely harsh. 160 00:13:11,540 --> 00:13:14,209 It's very critical and judgmental. 161 00:13:14,293 --> 00:13:18,171 But it's actually through modeling that I found my confidence. 162 00:13:18,255 --> 00:13:22,383 I don't model for the mainstream or for the industry. 163 00:13:22,468 --> 00:13:31,017 I model to show other women and even men that you don't have to be perfect to be beautiful. 164 00:13:31,101 --> 00:13:35,230 You can be imperfectly perfect and that's a wonderful thing. 165 00:13:36,899 --> 00:13:38,399 Perfect is boring anyway. 166 00:13:45,491 --> 00:13:49,744 [Laura] When people tell I'm not a size 14, I guess, sometimes, I get a little bit pissed off. 167 00:13:49,829 --> 00:13:51,913 When you tell a plus size model she's not a plus size model, 168 00:13:51,997 --> 00:13:54,415 it's probably a little bit offensive. 169 00:13:54,500 --> 00:13:57,502 You know, all I have to do is say, -Look at the size of my pants, 170 00:13:57,586 --> 00:14:00,338 and you'll know that I'm a size 14. 171 00:14:10,307 --> 00:14:14,978 Technically, I am not what the plus-size community looks like. 172 00:14:15,062 --> 00:14:19,482 But, in the modeling world, I am what the plus size models look like. 173 00:14:21,861 --> 00:14:25,822 When I'm put next to a normal sized model, then, you can really see the difference 174 00:14:25,906 --> 00:14:31,119 and it makes it very clear I have way bigger hips, way bigger chest. 175 00:14:31,203 --> 00:14:34,038 Even though I have a small waist, my waist is a lot bigger. 176 00:14:36,292 --> 00:14:42,130 Mainstream media and mainstream fashion are using very skinny models in a majority 177 00:14:42,214 --> 00:14:46,968 of editorials, in runway parades, in advertising 178 00:14:47,052 --> 00:14:50,805 and the plus size model and the plus sized community 179 00:14:50,890 --> 00:14:53,516 are quite left out from all those mainstream media. 180 00:14:53,601 --> 00:14:58,062 And perhaps, if we were seen a lot more in editorials and in advertising, 181 00:14:58,147 --> 00:15:00,523 the distinction would be made a little bit more clearer 182 00:15:00,608 --> 00:15:04,235 and that community would also be represented a lot more. 183 00:15:08,616 --> 00:15:12,410 There's been debate after debate about the word plus size. 184 00:15:12,494 --> 00:15:16,122 It started as purely an industry-based terminology. 185 00:15:16,206 --> 00:15:19,542 I'm talking twenty years ago we didn't have plus size models. 186 00:15:19,627 --> 00:15:21,210 There wasn't the word. 187 00:15:21,295 --> 00:15:25,965 We don't want a size six or eight, we want a plus ten, maybe 188 00:15:26,050 --> 00:15:27,592 a plus two or three sizes up. 189 00:15:27,676 --> 00:15:30,887 So, you're not a straight size but you're a plus size. 190 00:15:31,013 --> 00:15:34,223 At the beginning, I think it was used a lot, obviously, because it was so new. 191 00:15:34,308 --> 00:15:37,977 Oh, she's a model, but obviously, she is different, so you had to call her something. 192 00:15:38,062 --> 00:15:41,022 And what do you do? Oh, I'm a curve model or I'm a plus model 193 00:15:41,106 --> 00:15:44,400 and they sometimes go -Oh you shouldn't call yourself that.- 194 00:15:44,485 --> 00:15:47,445 -Like it's a bad thing. -Yeah. Like you've offended yourself. 195 00:15:47,529 --> 00:15:53,868 I always wanted to be a model, and when, in my age 14, I came to the model agency, 196 00:15:53,953 --> 00:15:58,289 they call me plus size model, and I was absolutely okay with that. 197 00:15:58,374 --> 00:16:01,334 Like okay, fine, am I still a model? 198 00:16:01,418 --> 00:16:05,338 Does the check clear? It clears as a plus model. 199 00:16:05,422 --> 00:16:07,090 My bills are paid being a plus model. 200 00:16:07,967 --> 00:16:10,218 I'm totally fine being a plus model. 201 00:16:10,302 --> 00:16:12,929 When you ask me -What's your job?- I didn't say a plus size model. 202 00:16:13,013 --> 00:16:18,059 I said, -I'm a model.- Because I'm doing the same job as another girl that's skinnier. 203 00:16:18,143 --> 00:16:23,898 We go to castings, we try to get jobs, we fly around, we go to hotels, we come back. 204 00:16:23,983 --> 00:16:25,942 We don't say -Oh, she's a brunette model.- 205 00:16:26,068 --> 00:16:29,237 It may put other women down when we're referred to as plus size. 206 00:16:29,321 --> 00:16:33,324 Because plus size in this industry does range from a six to a 16. 207 00:16:33,409 --> 00:16:37,453 Plus size is kind of seen by some people as a negative by using the word plus. 208 00:16:37,538 --> 00:16:41,666 But no one actually uses the word straight size or size zero 209 00:16:41,750 --> 00:16:43,668 when they're talking about regular models. 210 00:16:43,752 --> 00:16:45,586 So that's the kind of the problem that is. 211 00:16:45,671 --> 00:16:50,675 It's like, why are you saying that this girl is plus model and this girl's just a model? 212 00:16:50,759 --> 00:16:53,511 -Yeah, you can't win. -You can't win either way. 213 00:16:54,304 --> 00:16:56,556 [Clementine] I'm telling you I'm a model. You see me, obviously, 214 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,560 you guess I'm not a straight size model, but do we need to talk about it? I don't know. 215 00:17:00,644 --> 00:17:03,271 I don't think so. [chuckles] 216 00:17:03,355 --> 00:17:06,607 To be honest, I've never not done an interview where they haven't asked me that. 217 00:17:06,692 --> 00:17:09,986 It's always a question, -What do you think of the term plus size?- 218 00:17:10,112 --> 00:17:13,948 And I know a lot of the plus size models-- I don't even want to call them plus, 219 00:17:14,033 --> 00:17:16,993 I know a lot of the models have jumped on board and have said 220 00:17:17,077 --> 00:17:19,537 we shouldn't be called plus size and they rally up about it. 221 00:17:19,621 --> 00:17:25,126 it just needs to go away and that question, just, it's over, it's done. 222 00:17:25,210 --> 00:17:26,377 It's overused. 223 00:17:26,462 --> 00:17:27,462 Sorry. 224 00:17:28,589 --> 00:17:32,550 I have a huge problem with models 225 00:17:32,634 --> 00:17:36,471 who want to dissociate themselves from the word plus size. 226 00:17:36,555 --> 00:17:39,724 They chose to be called plus size models 227 00:17:39,808 --> 00:17:45,480 and they have built huge careers around being a plus size model. 228 00:17:45,564 --> 00:17:53,529 So, you can't rise to fame and money and even power on a term and embrace it then 229 00:17:53,614 --> 00:17:57,992 and then choose later on to say -You know what? I don't want that term anymore.- 230 00:17:58,077 --> 00:18:01,412 It's in-- maybe it's true that they're not plus size, 231 00:18:01,497 --> 00:18:05,500 but it's insulting to the women who have supported you from day one. 232 00:18:05,584 --> 00:18:07,668 Who have looked up to you, who have supported your images, 233 00:18:07,753 --> 00:18:09,712 who bought the clothing that you've worn, 234 00:18:09,797 --> 00:18:13,633 to then take back that word and say you don't want to be associated with it, 235 00:18:13,717 --> 00:18:15,009 or you think it's a negative term. 236 00:18:15,094 --> 00:18:20,765 Until such time, where I can look at anybody, and say -I'm a plus size model- 237 00:18:20,849 --> 00:18:25,520 and they react positively or I can look at somebody else and say 238 00:18:25,604 --> 00:18:29,148 -I'm a model- and they can get that I can be a model. 239 00:18:29,233 --> 00:18:30,441 We haven't made enough progress. 240 00:18:30,526 --> 00:18:32,068 We still need that term. 241 00:18:32,152 --> 00:18:33,778 Plus size. And we should embrace it. 242 00:18:35,489 --> 00:18:39,742 The last acceptable prejudice in America is against fat people. 243 00:18:39,827 --> 00:18:43,037 And in the ad, he has two pictures of women 244 00:18:43,122 --> 00:18:44,789 who have a little extra meat on their bones. 245 00:18:44,873 --> 00:18:48,668 -A little? When did we change the definition of little? 246 00:18:48,752 --> 00:18:51,212 A group calling itself Overweight Haters Limited 247 00:18:51,296 --> 00:18:55,675 has been passing out fat shaming business cards to passengers on the London Underground. 248 00:18:55,759 --> 00:18:58,386 New fat-shaming problems for Donald Trump. 249 00:18:58,470 --> 00:19:01,514 Listen to what he said about a very pregnant Kim Kardashian. 250 00:19:01,598 --> 00:19:03,099 She's gotten a little bit large. 251 00:19:03,183 --> 00:19:06,602 I would say this, I don't think you should dress like you weigh 120 pounds. 252 00:19:06,687 --> 00:19:10,106 Now they found that Americans view overweight people as lazy, 253 00:19:10,232 --> 00:19:13,568 unambitious and lacking willpower. 254 00:19:13,652 --> 00:19:19,073 Do they look dynamic? Do they look disciplined? Do they look highly efficient? Well, no. 255 00:19:19,158 --> 00:19:24,078 You know speaking frankly and therefore Jay wouldn't be someone that I would employ. 256 00:19:24,163 --> 00:19:28,624 After a person is exposed to ads that promote body acceptance using larger sized models, 257 00:19:28,709 --> 00:19:31,586 people are more likely to make unhealthier decisions. 258 00:19:31,670 --> 00:19:34,797 The ads make it seem more socially acceptable to carry extra weight. 259 00:19:34,882 --> 00:19:40,720 Having these plus size models, could that be contributing to obesity in society? 260 00:19:40,804 --> 00:19:44,640 It seems to me that plus size models and extolling them 261 00:19:44,725 --> 00:19:47,393 and making it seem normal to be obese, 262 00:19:47,477 --> 00:19:51,355 I don't think she looks incredible. I think she looks unhealthy. 263 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,442 It's an effective way to fight obesity, the epidemic, 264 00:19:54,526 --> 00:19:57,320 is to shame people into losing the weight. 265 00:19:57,404 --> 00:19:59,864 The way that they shame smokers into quitting. 266 00:19:59,948 --> 00:20:01,407 That's another thing they say. 267 00:20:01,491 --> 00:20:02,825 Fat shaming makes people fat. 268 00:20:02,910 --> 00:20:06,162 When you junkie-shame me, it just makes me do more heroin. 269 00:20:06,246 --> 00:20:07,246 Yeah, I don't care. 270 00:20:07,331 --> 00:20:09,540 Fuck it girls, go eat pizza. Everybody be a plus size model. 271 00:20:09,625 --> 00:20:12,293 I want to eat cookies and still be a Sports Illustrated swimsuit model. 272 00:20:12,377 --> 00:20:15,171 Do you like cancer and diabetes? If you want fertility problems, 273 00:20:15,297 --> 00:20:16,756 then plus size is beautiful. 274 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:21,385 To call yourself plus size is simply a euphemism for being fat, and who wants to be fat? 275 00:20:22,304 --> 00:20:26,474 We live in a culture that actively supports discrimination against weight. 276 00:20:26,558 --> 00:20:31,896 In fact, its prevalence has been shown to be equal to racial discrimination 277 00:20:31,980 --> 00:20:34,482 and discrimination based on gender. 278 00:20:34,566 --> 00:20:41,530 17- of women in one particular study said that if they were feeling bad about their bodies 279 00:20:41,615 --> 00:20:46,369 on a particular day, they would probably skip going to a job interview that was scheduled. 280 00:20:46,453 --> 00:20:49,872 More often than not, people will hearken to this health issue 281 00:20:49,957 --> 00:20:56,504 and they will totally speak nothing about how people feel about themselves. 282 00:20:56,588 --> 00:21:00,508 And you can't talk about health without talking about mental health. 283 00:21:00,592 --> 00:21:04,345 You know, it seems like there's this whole idea out there 284 00:21:04,429 --> 00:21:08,849 that shame is gonna be effective at helping people to change their lives. 285 00:21:08,934 --> 00:21:14,230 And if people ever lost their shame or felt like, or stopped feeling like there was something 286 00:21:14,314 --> 00:21:17,525 wrong with them, they would lose their motivation to do something. 287 00:21:17,609 --> 00:21:21,445 I've literally had a trainer sit with another girl who was like -Oh, I just...- 288 00:21:21,530 --> 00:21:24,907 you know, size whatever girl, smaller girl saying how she didn't feel good 289 00:21:24,992 --> 00:21:26,951 about herself and then he said, -Well, at least you don't look like her.- 290 00:21:27,869 --> 00:21:28,869 And I'm like... 291 00:21:29,830 --> 00:21:34,834 I think that our medical establishment has set it up for all of us to believe 292 00:21:34,918 --> 00:21:38,254 that there's something wrong with being in a heavier body, 293 00:21:38,338 --> 00:21:41,549 and that gives legitimacy then to a popular culture 294 00:21:41,633 --> 00:21:45,261 to insult people for not having the right body. 295 00:21:45,387 --> 00:21:48,723 I remember this experience I had, with a black friend of mine recently, 296 00:21:48,807 --> 00:21:54,020 where we walked into a store and the store keeper was following her around everywhere we went. 297 00:21:54,730 --> 00:21:58,482 And it was obvious that the storekeeper was expecting her to be shoplifting 298 00:21:58,567 --> 00:22:00,276 and was watching for it. 299 00:22:00,360 --> 00:22:03,904 My friend was really disturbed by the experience 300 00:22:03,989 --> 00:22:09,452 and I remember thinking, you know, I've got options here about what to tell her to do. 301 00:22:09,536 --> 00:22:14,540 I could tell her that she could bleach her skin and then maybe she wouldn't experience that. 302 00:22:14,624 --> 00:22:21,464 Or, I could show compassion for how difficult it is to live in a racist world 303 00:22:21,548 --> 00:22:24,717 and acknowledge that that kind of behavior is not okay, 304 00:22:24,801 --> 00:22:26,927 and that the problem isn't in her 305 00:22:27,012 --> 00:22:31,057 the problem is in a culture that tolerates and encourages that. 306 00:22:32,017 --> 00:22:36,812 And I think that we have to start to apply that same lens when working with weight. 307 00:22:36,897 --> 00:22:40,691 That rather than telling people to lose weight and then you won't get, 308 00:22:40,776 --> 00:22:43,027 you won't experience discrimination 309 00:22:43,111 --> 00:22:46,614 what we have to do is name discrimination as the problem. 311 00:23:02,714 --> 00:23:04,465 Oh, my goodness, he's huge. 312 00:23:05,759 --> 00:23:07,635 He's like, bigger than a horse. 313 00:23:08,762 --> 00:23:12,515 My little brother's had this pig for years now. 314 00:23:12,599 --> 00:23:14,558 It's his pet. 315 00:23:19,022 --> 00:23:22,775 It's funny, you actually learn a lot about life and death really quickly with animals, 316 00:23:22,859 --> 00:23:26,529 like, living on a farm. Cause, I don't know, things happen. 317 00:23:28,073 --> 00:23:30,157 Life happens. Death happens. 318 00:23:39,626 --> 00:23:41,460 This tree's a lot smaller now. 319 00:23:41,545 --> 00:23:45,464 I used to think it was a pretty good feat, climbing up here. 320 00:23:47,092 --> 00:23:53,514 Good spot, no one can-- I mean-- yeah, yeah, I liked it up here. 321 00:23:59,104 --> 00:24:00,938 I've thought about a lot of stuff up here. 322 00:24:02,774 --> 00:24:05,443 I was gonna be world famous one day. 323 00:24:13,994 --> 00:24:17,037 I made my mom take a photo of me before a dance recital 324 00:24:17,122 --> 00:24:21,625 and I decided that I was gonna pose like that and everything so. 325 00:24:21,710 --> 00:24:26,380 And I hopped up there they lift me up there and struck my first pose. 326 00:24:26,465 --> 00:24:29,800 Yeah. That's where it all began, superstar in the making I think. 327 00:24:30,510 --> 00:24:32,094 Yeah, very much the centre of the show. 328 00:24:32,179 --> 00:24:35,431 She was standing on the trampoline with her arms out like she was a- 329 00:24:35,515 --> 00:24:38,809 I'm sure most girls are like that, you know, they want to be the star. 330 00:24:38,894 --> 00:24:40,853 You know, -Mommy! Mommy! Mommy! Look at me! Look at me! Look at me!- 331 00:24:40,937 --> 00:24:43,481 I'm telling ya! That's the way it was. 332 00:24:46,026 --> 00:24:47,902 You know I was always posing, actually. 333 00:24:47,986 --> 00:24:52,823 People always told me I was really photogenic in high school and even in elementary school. 334 00:24:52,908 --> 00:24:53,699 I was always posing. 335 00:24:53,783 --> 00:24:55,868 Maybe I was meant to be a model? I don't know. 336 00:24:59,915 --> 00:25:03,125 I have always been, like, an outgoing person but, It's just harder here. 337 00:25:03,210 --> 00:25:06,128 It was harder to be that way. 338 00:25:06,213 --> 00:25:08,547 But I needed more. 339 00:25:08,632 --> 00:25:13,594 I've always had this urgency for wanting more in life, and experiencing more, and 340 00:25:15,222 --> 00:25:19,767 yeah, it's nice to be back home, I really miss my parents and my family here. 341 00:25:19,851 --> 00:25:22,061 I kind of made a choice when I was younger, 342 00:25:22,145 --> 00:25:24,688 to move away and to try and make something of myself. 343 00:25:24,773 --> 00:25:28,025 You got to get out of-- you got to get out of the small-town community 344 00:25:28,109 --> 00:25:29,902 in order to make it big, I think, you know. 345 00:25:29,986 --> 00:25:32,571 And so, I moved to Vancouver with that kind of dream 346 00:25:32,656 --> 00:25:36,700 and that kind of mentality, is that I was gonna do something, do something big. 347 00:25:40,914 --> 00:25:43,916 Currently, I am not feeling too well. 348 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,544 I'm going in for surgery, in about three weeks. 349 00:25:47,963 --> 00:25:51,131 Nothing to be too concerned about hopefully. But, 350 00:25:52,092 --> 00:25:54,969 something's in my stomach that needs to come out, so. 351 00:25:55,053 --> 00:25:57,096 It's not a baby, don't worry. 352 00:25:57,180 --> 00:26:03,185 But it's been growing, and giving me a lot of difficulty. 353 00:26:03,270 --> 00:26:07,189 So, I'm gonna be dealing with that in the next little while. 354 00:26:07,899 --> 00:26:11,652 So, unfortunately, you won't be seeing too many photos coming from my page. 355 00:26:11,736 --> 00:26:15,864 But, hopefully, I have enough on reserve that you guys can enjoy. 356 00:26:22,831 --> 00:26:27,960 Yeah. Just pains in my lower stomach and I wouldn't-- I didn't think anything of it, 357 00:26:28,044 --> 00:26:30,546 other than cysts, because that's what everyone told me that I had. 358 00:26:30,672 --> 00:26:33,632 And it was -Oh, it's just a cyst. It's nothing to worry about.- 359 00:26:42,225 --> 00:26:47,104 Ah, this video is unlike any other video you have seen me do. 360 00:26:47,188 --> 00:26:52,151 It's a little bit more intense than anything else I've talked about, 361 00:26:52,235 --> 00:26:55,863 like, hair and makeup and clothes. 362 00:26:55,947 --> 00:26:57,698 This is um, this is a big one. 363 00:26:57,782 --> 00:27:04,246 I had surgery a month ago on the 14th of June, and it was a biopsy. 364 00:27:04,331 --> 00:27:06,915 So that was to figure out what was going on my stomach. 365 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,711 The biopsy results came back five days after, on June 19th 366 00:27:10,795 --> 00:27:16,592 and I was called in and diagnosed with a low grade serous carcinoma, 367 00:27:16,676 --> 00:27:18,552 which is ovarian cancer. 368 00:27:18,637 --> 00:27:21,805 It's a rare, very rare form of ovarian cancer. 369 00:27:23,016 --> 00:27:27,853 That, yeah, you don't see in twenty-five-year-old girls, that's for sure. 370 00:27:27,937 --> 00:27:32,066 Life, as I'm sure you know, hands you some pretty crazy things 371 00:27:32,150 --> 00:27:36,987 and this is the first thing I've really come upon in my life to deal with. 372 00:27:37,072 --> 00:27:38,197 Like this. 373 00:27:38,281 --> 00:27:43,994 So, this is the one that-- this is the one that-- that my family and I are dealing with. 374 00:28:14,442 --> 00:28:15,776 My looks will change. 375 00:28:16,861 --> 00:28:18,946 I will change as a person. 376 00:28:19,030 --> 00:28:20,989 And I hope you guys stick with me through this. 377 00:28:21,074 --> 00:28:24,910 And I hope I can learn something from you and that you can learn something from me 378 00:28:24,994 --> 00:28:26,286 and that I grow from this. 379 00:28:26,371 --> 00:28:29,707 My brother said to me that he found a quote that said, 380 00:28:34,879 --> 00:28:40,300 -A person doesn't get cancer. A family gets cancer.- And I really believe that. 381 00:28:40,385 --> 00:28:44,346 My parents have been here, like, the whole time. 382 00:28:44,431 --> 00:28:46,140 And it's been really great having them. 383 00:28:46,224 --> 00:28:47,891 My mom has looked after me. 384 00:28:49,144 --> 00:28:53,105 You need your family and your friends when you're going through this and I feel so awful 385 00:28:53,189 --> 00:28:54,982 for people that never had anyone. 386 00:28:55,066 --> 00:28:56,400 I couldn't imagine. 387 00:29:09,748 --> 00:29:11,165 Yeah, everything stopped. 388 00:29:12,751 --> 00:29:14,334 Yeah everything's been put on hold. 389 00:29:14,419 --> 00:29:16,336 Everything was like happening. 390 00:29:16,421 --> 00:29:22,801 The same day that I was, that I had the port surgery go unsuccessful, 391 00:29:22,886 --> 00:29:25,387 and find out that I still had another tumor growing, 392 00:29:26,765 --> 00:29:30,142 was the same day I found out that I could be going to New York. 393 00:29:35,857 --> 00:29:37,149 Yeah, it sucks. 394 00:29:49,954 --> 00:29:54,750 I met Shanah's mother, when I was about 21 years old. 395 00:29:54,834 --> 00:29:59,463 Shanah's mother was working in the red-light district as a prostitute. 396 00:29:59,547 --> 00:30:06,970 I was a customer of hers, but she did stop after about three years. 397 00:30:07,055 --> 00:30:10,849 And she wanted to have a child. 398 00:30:10,934 --> 00:30:15,312 Growing up, I kind of went in between homes a lot. 399 00:30:15,396 --> 00:30:22,194 My parents were actually in prison for the first few years of my life. 400 00:30:22,278 --> 00:30:25,364 So I was raised by my grandmother. 401 00:30:25,448 --> 00:30:31,328 Officially she lived with her mother, but her mother, which I heard afterwards, 402 00:30:31,412 --> 00:30:38,335 her mother was often away for a business and then leave her home alone sometimes in the evening. 403 00:30:38,419 --> 00:30:42,089 Kerosene kept strolling to my place because she was home alone. 404 00:30:43,341 --> 00:30:47,261 I haven't spoken to her since I was about 13. 405 00:30:47,345 --> 00:30:53,475 There was a lot of physical abuse, a lot of psychological abuse. 406 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:58,313 There were instances where we would have family meetings and 407 00:30:58,398 --> 00:31:04,444 everyone got to eat whatever and desserts and I would be the only one left out. 408 00:31:04,529 --> 00:31:07,364 She would say stuff like, -Oh, you know- like 409 00:31:08,449 --> 00:31:12,995 ridiculous stuff, like, -If you eat this, you'll get HIV.- And stuff like that. 410 00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:16,248 lf she thought that Kerosene was 411 00:31:17,041 --> 00:31:22,629 too heavy, she would comment like, you know, "You look like a pig" or something. 412 00:31:23,339 --> 00:31:27,259 Yes, she would be quite rude, I think. 413 00:31:27,343 --> 00:31:31,346 I remember when I was about five years old. 414 00:31:31,431 --> 00:31:34,141 Five until about seven. 415 00:31:34,225 --> 00:31:40,147 There was a person in the family who was considered like an uncle 416 00:31:40,231 --> 00:31:44,568 and he sexually molested me. 417 00:31:44,652 --> 00:31:50,490 Right smack in the middle of big family gatherings for example he would, 418 00:31:50,575 --> 00:31:55,162 you know, do little things like, grope my chest or 419 00:31:55,246 --> 00:31:58,832 reach his hand down my crotch and stuff like that. 420 00:31:58,917 --> 00:32:03,003 I was also left alone a lot in some of my mother's establishments 421 00:32:03,087 --> 00:32:05,255 which were brothels. 422 00:32:05,340 --> 00:32:09,092 Just to hang out there after school and he would often be there. 423 00:32:09,177 --> 00:32:13,180 I had expressed some of the things that had happened to my mother, 424 00:32:13,264 --> 00:32:15,182 and she sort of shrugged it off. 425 00:32:15,266 --> 00:32:21,021 And was like, -Oh well, you know it's probably your fault- and stuff like that. 426 00:32:21,105 --> 00:32:23,565 So, I guess that always stuck with me. 427 00:32:24,317 --> 00:32:31,323 She-- she told me, to me, but that was many years after that happened. 428 00:32:31,407 --> 00:32:34,701 She told me, she once told it to her mother. 429 00:32:35,411 --> 00:32:41,041 It was at the time that we broke up already, me and Kerosene's mother. 430 00:32:41,125 --> 00:32:45,295 And that her mother was shouting at her about it. 431 00:32:46,631 --> 00:32:53,512 The person who did that, he is, he passed away already because he jumped in front of a train. 432 00:32:53,596 --> 00:32:55,597 Otherwise, I might have pushed him. 433 00:32:57,976 --> 00:33:00,143 I shouldn't say that on camera. 434 00:33:04,065 --> 00:33:08,360 I was quite chubby my whole life and always told that I had pretty face. 435 00:33:08,444 --> 00:33:10,654 And there's kind of nothing worse than that. 436 00:33:10,738 --> 00:33:13,615 I wish-- I kind of wish that people just wouldn't compliment me at all. 437 00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:18,245 lf there just gonna say that I have a pretty face, and what, that my body is ugly? 438 00:33:18,329 --> 00:33:22,082 Like, what-- what I am as a whole is not pretty enough for you 439 00:33:22,166 --> 00:33:26,086 to give it an entire compliment? Like, fuck that. 440 00:33:26,170 --> 00:33:30,966 I was at a job and I overheard the stylist in the background say, 441 00:33:31,050 --> 00:33:33,093 -Oh fat chick. I don't know what to do with her. 442 00:33:33,177 --> 00:33:35,595 How am I supposed to dress a fat chick?- 443 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,098 And, this was when I had first started modeling and that- 444 00:33:38,182 --> 00:33:41,393 it really got to me at that time. 445 00:33:41,477 --> 00:33:44,438 But I just sucked it up and thought, well, -Screw you lady. I'm gonna show you 446 00:33:44,522 --> 00:33:45,939 that I can do a great job.- 447 00:33:46,024 --> 00:33:51,403 And I did, and at the end of it she, she had no idea that I had overheard her saying that 448 00:33:51,487 --> 00:33:55,991 and she actually congratulated me on how much of a good job I did during the shoot. 449 00:33:56,117 --> 00:33:59,619 And I just thought, -Well, up yours. Yeah, I showed you.- 450 00:33:59,704 --> 00:34:04,666 I was doing a show with a lot of their new models that were really, really, skinny. 451 00:34:04,751 --> 00:34:07,627 And I was the only plus size model at the show. 452 00:34:07,712 --> 00:34:10,130 And, I don't really remember this at all. 453 00:34:10,214 --> 00:34:12,549 But my mom was telling me this story a few weeks ago. 454 00:34:12,633 --> 00:34:18,096 And she said that I was so upset, And I was crying and I was, like, -I'm the fat model. 455 00:34:18,181 --> 00:34:19,473 I'm the only fat girl.- 456 00:34:19,557 --> 00:34:24,644 The worst I had was in 2011, when this TV commercial came out It was- 457 00:34:24,729 --> 00:34:29,524 I got a lot of like, direct attacks, like, on me personally 458 00:34:29,609 --> 00:34:31,318 and like, it was pretty bad. 459 00:34:31,402 --> 00:34:32,652 -You're not supposed to be model.- 460 00:34:32,737 --> 00:34:35,447 Or -you're too short, you're too big, you're too thin.- 461 00:34:35,531 --> 00:34:38,575 It's always like you're always too much something. 462 00:34:38,659 --> 00:34:43,038 Most of the feedback I got from the H&M campaign was very positive. 463 00:34:43,164 --> 00:34:49,586 There was for every nine really positive remarks, there was always one, 464 00:34:49,670 --> 00:34:52,506 where somehow, I was like, ruining somebody's life 465 00:34:52,590 --> 00:34:54,382 for being in a swimsuit on the beach. 466 00:34:54,467 --> 00:35:00,597 The people who are leaving the comments after the articles, they wasn't so kindly to me. 467 00:35:00,681 --> 00:35:04,726 -Oh, this pig! Why she naked?- 468 00:35:04,811 --> 00:35:07,437 Somebody said, -Oh, she looks like she could use a salad.- 469 00:35:07,522 --> 00:35:10,065 And I mean, well, I really like salad. 470 00:35:10,191 --> 00:35:13,693 There's a bunch of delivery places around here that you can custom make your own salad, 471 00:35:13,778 --> 00:35:15,612 and they've got great tofu! So. 472 00:35:15,696 --> 00:35:21,076 I was just feeling bad because, by being haters to me, 473 00:35:21,202 --> 00:35:24,830 they were being haters to all the women that looked like me. 474 00:35:26,666 --> 00:35:30,210 I now have to take estrogen for the rest of my life, but my cancer is estrogen receptive. 475 00:35:30,294 --> 00:35:35,090 There's still some left on my diaphragm that I will be going in for chemo 476 00:35:35,216 --> 00:35:37,551 and losing my hair within the end of the month. 477 00:35:37,635 --> 00:35:42,389 So that'll be-- that'll be definitely something that I'll have to deal with 478 00:35:42,473 --> 00:35:44,850 on an emotional and physical level. 479 00:35:58,823 --> 00:36:03,118 This way I'm kind of choosing to lose my hair, as opposed to just losing it. 480 00:36:03,202 --> 00:36:06,329 Like, I've seen people and it's like falling out and that just really. 481 00:36:06,414 --> 00:36:09,082 Yeah. It's kind of disturbing and I don't want to lose it, 482 00:36:09,167 --> 00:36:11,418 I want to take it off, you know? 483 00:36:11,502 --> 00:36:12,752 Oh, that's weird. 484 00:36:12,837 --> 00:36:14,588 -You look so good. -You do. 485 00:36:15,339 --> 00:36:16,715 -I love it. -I love it. 486 00:36:16,799 --> 00:36:18,884 Nothing compares 487 00:36:25,683 --> 00:36:29,728 I'm gonna stay with the modeling as much as I can as much as my energy 488 00:36:29,812 --> 00:36:33,315 and my overall outlook of life is. 489 00:36:33,399 --> 00:36:35,775 Because, I don't know how to take it I don't know how to deal with this, 490 00:36:35,860 --> 00:36:38,528 I've never known anyone to go through cancer. 491 00:36:38,613 --> 00:36:39,946 I don't know what to expect. 492 00:36:54,879 --> 00:36:55,795 Yeah, here we go. 493 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,131 And, it's already set. 494 00:36:58,216 --> 00:37:01,885 My lovely girlfriend Nadine set my hair. 495 00:37:01,969 --> 00:37:03,470 Looks good. 496 00:37:03,554 --> 00:37:05,472 The lady at the wig store said about four fingers. 497 00:37:05,556 --> 00:37:08,725 -Yeah, that looks really cute. -Does that look normal? Is it on the ball? Like... 498 00:37:08,809 --> 00:37:09,601 Yeah. 499 00:37:09,685 --> 00:37:14,606 I haven't had time to even watch a YouTube on how to use a wig. 500 00:37:15,399 --> 00:37:18,526 I seriously have absolutely no time in the day, it feels like. 501 00:37:18,611 --> 00:37:20,445 And then when I do, I'm too tired. 502 00:37:21,822 --> 00:37:26,409 I feel like it was fate that it all kind of came down, that I'd have this career roll out 503 00:37:26,494 --> 00:37:31,206 just the same time that I get diagnosed with a pretty terrible disease. 504 00:37:31,290 --> 00:37:33,500 You know stage 3 ovarian cancer. 505 00:37:34,293 --> 00:37:37,462 That's pretty harsh for a lot of people to have to experience. 506 00:37:43,636 --> 00:37:47,347 It helps to do these photo shoots, for like, self-confidence. 507 00:37:47,431 --> 00:37:49,224 You know, you feel amazing when you're doing these things. 508 00:37:49,308 --> 00:37:52,310 People are fawning over, making sure your face looks perfect, 509 00:37:52,395 --> 00:37:53,645 and making sure your hair looks perfect. 510 00:37:53,729 --> 00:37:55,563 There's no better feeling in the world, probably. 511 00:37:55,648 --> 00:37:59,943 So, I'm just a typical chick and I have confidence. 512 00:38:00,027 --> 00:38:03,613 That's the only difference that makes me, um, the person that I am. 513 00:38:04,824 --> 00:38:06,491 I had chemo in the morning. 514 00:38:06,575 --> 00:38:07,867 I didn't have to get my blood test. 515 00:38:07,952 --> 00:38:10,245 Thank God I had that on Wednesday, and it went well. 516 00:38:10,371 --> 00:38:12,205 So, my counts are good. 517 00:38:12,290 --> 00:38:14,249 I had chemo, it was like two and a half hours. 518 00:38:14,333 --> 00:38:16,876 And Benadryl. Oh my god, does it make you tired. 519 00:38:19,714 --> 00:38:24,342 I don't know how to keep up with it like my website and just everything my fans, 520 00:38:24,427 --> 00:38:28,221 and the demanding-- and the demanding things are coming my way, I just can't. 521 00:38:28,306 --> 00:38:29,889 I'm feeling overwhelmed today. 522 00:38:29,974 --> 00:38:32,767 And I've been feeling overwhelmed the past couple days. 523 00:38:34,312 --> 00:38:36,813 I walked into the living room and told my family that I need therapy. 524 00:38:36,897 --> 00:38:40,525 So, therapy is starting on Wednes-- on Monday. 525 00:38:40,609 --> 00:38:43,445 I just like, walked into the living room, they're all sitting there, 526 00:38:43,529 --> 00:38:45,739 I just said, -I need therapy- and I started crying. 527 00:38:47,908 --> 00:38:50,785 People think that I've got absolutely nothing wrong and I look gorgeous 528 00:38:50,870 --> 00:38:53,621 and that I'm just fucking living the life right now, but I'm not. 529 00:38:53,706 --> 00:38:56,666 Like, I'm actually really sad a lot of days. 530 00:39:01,964 --> 00:39:05,300 Oh well. That's what-- and that's just the way that this is. 531 00:39:05,426 --> 00:39:07,594 I accept that what it is. I knew getting into it. 532 00:39:07,678 --> 00:39:11,431 I went off estrogen. I'm going through menopause full force right now at 25. 533 00:39:11,515 --> 00:39:15,727 And they said it was gonna be the hardest thing ever, to go through chemo and menopause. 534 00:39:15,811 --> 00:39:17,896 And it sure as hell is. Like, it's hard. 535 00:39:18,773 --> 00:39:20,982 While having fans too, that criticize you. 536 00:39:21,067 --> 00:39:26,404 Yeah, a guy posted on my wall the other day that uh-- I was using cancer. 537 00:39:26,489 --> 00:39:27,697 I don't want to talk... 538 00:39:31,827 --> 00:39:34,454 I was using cancer as a platform. 539 00:39:34,538 --> 00:39:36,956 Which I'm not, at all. 540 00:39:37,041 --> 00:39:38,958 Those people have nothing better to say... 541 00:39:39,043 --> 00:39:42,045 Which is pretty awful, and I knew that going in to this, 542 00:39:42,129 --> 00:39:44,631 but I didn't know that people could actually do that. 543 00:39:45,549 --> 00:39:45,965 Anyone can hide behind... 544 00:39:46,050 --> 00:39:48,385 I'm gonna wreck your makeup now and you've worked so hard. 545 00:39:49,887 --> 00:39:52,430 Someone would never say that to me, I don't think, like, in real life 546 00:39:52,515 --> 00:39:54,516 because they realize I'm an actual person. 547 00:39:55,393 --> 00:39:57,602 I'm an emotional wreck, actually 548 00:39:57,686 --> 00:40:01,940 underneath all of this makeup and this fake hair and whatever. 549 00:40:02,024 --> 00:40:07,362 I'm pretty emotionally distraught, but I'll get through it. 550 00:40:07,488 --> 00:40:10,490 That's why I posted on my page, the other day, that I was upset and- 551 00:40:10,574 --> 00:40:13,493 and then I had 60,000 people try and lift me up. So, 552 00:40:13,577 --> 00:40:16,037 basically this shoot is because I have fans. 553 00:40:16,122 --> 00:40:17,997 I wouldn't have been doing this today, 554 00:40:18,082 --> 00:40:22,460 if I didn't have some support and all the love coming at me. 555 00:40:22,545 --> 00:40:24,796 Because I read all my comments from that. That's what my plan was. 556 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,924 Post this photo, get-- get them excited because then they'll get excited for me. 557 00:40:38,936 --> 00:40:43,815 Even though no big commercial editorial agencies will have me. 558 00:40:43,899 --> 00:40:50,738 Or, even though I probably won't work with any mainstream designers or stores. 559 00:40:51,532 --> 00:40:55,577 That what I'm doing is the right thing, and what I'm doing matters. 560 00:40:57,621 --> 00:41:02,876 When I first started modeling, I really focused more on the art aspect of it, 561 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:07,422 but once I got more serious into the modeling side of it, 562 00:41:07,506 --> 00:41:13,720 I did try to go to a few agencies and castings and got really, really rejected. 563 00:41:13,804 --> 00:41:17,515 I don't like to label myself as -plus size model- 564 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:25,398 because being an industry standard plus size models has about as many restrictions 565 00:41:25,483 --> 00:41:28,401 and requirements as being a straight size model. 566 00:41:28,486 --> 00:41:33,990 You have to be very toned, tall, perfect skin, perfect teeth. 567 00:41:34,074 --> 00:41:41,706 So yeah, I definitely will never be and don't need be a plus size supermodel. 568 00:41:41,790 --> 00:41:45,919 Because I am only five foot three and I have tattoos. 569 00:41:46,003 --> 00:41:49,088 I don't have perfect features. But that's okay. 570 00:41:49,173 --> 00:41:51,090 I'm totally cool with that. 571 00:41:51,175 --> 00:41:56,012 Everyone was like, -You will never get hired by anyone, 572 00:41:56,096 --> 00:42:01,935 you're five foot three, you're full-figured and you have tattoos.- 573 00:42:02,019 --> 00:42:04,062 That's like, the triple X! 574 00:42:05,022 --> 00:42:12,612 But hey, it's, it's been over a decade and I've worked internationally for designers, 575 00:42:12,696 --> 00:42:15,615 for magazines, music videos. 576 00:42:15,699 --> 00:42:21,496 I really, honestly feel that if you work hard and you're passionate about something, 577 00:42:21,622 --> 00:42:23,665 you can make stuff happen for yourself. 578 00:42:23,749 --> 00:42:24,541 So yeah. 579 00:42:25,668 --> 00:42:27,210 Take that! Hm. 580 00:42:29,797 --> 00:42:34,300 The absolute, ultimate goal for me would probably- 581 00:42:35,177 --> 00:42:41,516 do a really ridiculously high-end couture runway show, for someone really big. 582 00:42:41,642 --> 00:42:47,146 Walking amongst all the svelte, tall, six-foot, size zero supermodels. 583 00:42:47,231 --> 00:42:51,150 And then there's just like me. Like, five foot three. 584 00:42:51,235 --> 00:42:53,236 Like, all jiggly on the catwalk. 585 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:58,074 It would just be really funny, because a lot of people would make such a commotion about it. 586 00:42:58,158 --> 00:43:03,162 Like what's this like, fat tattooed person doing on this cover or in this magazine, 587 00:43:03,247 --> 00:43:04,831 you know, on this runway. 588 00:43:04,915 --> 00:43:07,625 I would find that really enjoyable. 589 00:43:07,710 --> 00:43:10,086 Just like, -Haha, you know. Take that!- 590 00:43:11,338 --> 00:43:15,216 If someone can get me on that runway for-- I don't, I don't even care, 591 00:43:15,301 --> 00:43:20,680 like Alexander McQueen, Thierry Mugler, Vivienne Westwood, Betsey Johnson. 592 00:43:20,764 --> 00:43:22,974 Like Betsey Johnson, come on girl. 593 00:43:23,058 --> 00:43:24,684 That'd be awesome. 594 00:43:24,768 --> 00:43:30,064 I'll work these little love handles-- just strutting. 595 00:43:30,149 --> 00:43:31,524 That would be awesome. 596 00:43:31,609 --> 00:43:32,942 I would love that, oh my god! 597 00:43:34,028 --> 00:43:39,532 The irony of the fact that the fashion industry was meant to celebrate women 598 00:43:39,617 --> 00:43:43,202 and make them, you know, feel their best and 599 00:43:43,287 --> 00:43:50,043 give them an avenue to express themselves, but only if you're a size zero to eight. 600 00:43:51,670 --> 00:43:56,215 Those designers are not interested in the bigger women, it's just as simple as that. 601 00:43:56,300 --> 00:44:00,219 In their eyes, plus isn't like, worthy of their design. 602 00:44:00,304 --> 00:44:04,599 For them it's, it's really not about creating fashion for her 603 00:44:04,683 --> 00:44:06,851 as much as-- as much as it is, 604 00:44:07,811 --> 00:44:12,732 just creating pieces, that them their-selves as a designer are comfortable seeing. 605 00:44:12,816 --> 00:44:17,278 So, I, I think unfortunately, there's a segment of the population 606 00:44:17,363 --> 00:44:22,992 that's just constantly being left out and, ironically, it's really the largest segment. 607 00:44:23,077 --> 00:44:25,620 It's ridiculous! 608 00:44:25,704 --> 00:44:31,084 There is a perception that having a sort of straight up and down model as a coat hanger, 609 00:44:31,168 --> 00:44:33,252 if you like, having an androgynous look, 610 00:44:33,337 --> 00:44:37,131 means that the focus is a neutral look and the focus is on the clothing. 611 00:44:37,216 --> 00:44:40,385 Interestingly a lot of the designers that I've worked with 612 00:44:41,261 --> 00:44:45,640 and come in contact with are very thin themselves. 613 00:44:45,724 --> 00:44:49,352 I just noticed that, I don't know if it's maybe because they can't relate 614 00:44:49,436 --> 00:44:52,188 to plus sizes or they've never been plus size. 615 00:44:52,272 --> 00:44:55,191 Because they haven't lived in the body so they don't realize 616 00:44:55,275 --> 00:44:58,277 -Oh yes, that thing touches that thing.- 617 00:44:58,362 --> 00:45:03,032 Or, that's fine until you sit down or stand up or whatever it might be. 618 00:45:03,117 --> 00:45:08,871 In actual fact, if people were to be more honest about what society actually is 619 00:45:08,956 --> 00:45:13,042 they would actually see that designing for plus sizes 620 00:45:13,127 --> 00:45:17,296 has huge economic benefits for this kind of sixteen billion dollar market 621 00:45:17,381 --> 00:45:21,175 that Forbes has quoted in the United States alone. 622 00:45:21,260 --> 00:45:24,846 The problem comes from designers you know we're teaching fashion students 623 00:45:24,930 --> 00:45:27,807 to make clothes only in sample sizes. 624 00:45:27,891 --> 00:45:29,976 and that's what they learn how to do. 625 00:45:30,060 --> 00:45:33,146 ln most design schools and-- and also in ours, 626 00:45:33,230 --> 00:45:38,067 we'll work on size eight or ten, to make samples. 627 00:45:54,251 --> 00:46:00,131 My idea was to make a plus size collection for my final project in school. 628 00:46:00,215 --> 00:46:06,179 And I just went to the directives and asked them about their permission to- 629 00:46:06,263 --> 00:46:08,055 to allow me to do this. 630 00:46:08,140 --> 00:46:12,435 Hi there Doris, I have spoken with the other faculty members and unfortunately 631 00:46:12,519 --> 00:46:16,272 you won't be able to work with plus sized models this time around. 632 00:46:16,356 --> 00:46:21,986 Aside from needing a completely different fit model, three different additional models 633 00:46:22,070 --> 00:46:27,283 would need to be hired for the show which is incredibly expensive, money. 634 00:46:27,367 --> 00:46:32,288 This is extremely complicated for even the most experienced designer. 635 00:46:32,372 --> 00:46:35,750 We would ask that you continue making your current collection 636 00:46:35,876 --> 00:46:40,004 but adapt it to the school's standard blocks and models. 637 00:46:40,088 --> 00:46:45,718 I really feel sad because it was my, my dream, like to do my first collection 638 00:46:45,803 --> 00:46:47,887 about plus size women. 639 00:46:47,971 --> 00:46:51,766 But when they reject me, they rejected my idea. 640 00:46:51,892 --> 00:46:58,064 So, I feel frustrated like, I decided just to do what they want me to do it 641 00:46:58,148 --> 00:46:59,941 for now until I finish school. 642 00:47:00,025 --> 00:47:04,403 And after that, I know that I'm gonna be free to do just whatever I want. 643 00:47:04,488 --> 00:47:08,741 So even if the educational system is not teaching plus fashion. 644 00:47:08,826 --> 00:47:10,076 I didn't learn plus fashion. 645 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,746 But I've been plus size and I knew that that's what I wanted to do. 646 00:47:13,831 --> 00:47:15,331 So, I practiced. 647 00:47:49,992 --> 00:47:55,288 But I do think that it's unfortunate that so many don't want to explore it. 648 00:47:56,206 --> 00:48:03,212 And I think, actually, it has a lot to do with they feel like it would kind of mar their brand. 649 00:48:03,297 --> 00:48:05,172 It's just-- it's a dirty little game. 650 00:48:07,926 --> 00:48:10,803 So, I've got something a little odd that I keep in my model bag 651 00:48:10,888 --> 00:48:13,472 and take with me to shoots, and I don't always need to use it. 652 00:48:13,557 --> 00:48:18,811 But on some occasions the client will ask for me to look a little bit bigger. 653 00:48:18,896 --> 00:48:21,814 So, I carry with me a fat suit. 654 00:48:21,899 --> 00:48:24,483 Or if I want to be politically correct, padding. 655 00:48:24,568 --> 00:48:31,198 So, so far, I've been able to pad out my hips, my thighs and my stomach section. 656 00:48:31,283 --> 00:48:34,994 All through here. So, I've added at least a size and a half to my body. 657 00:48:35,078 --> 00:48:37,955 And this will allow me to wear bigger size clothing. 658 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:42,835 Especially the sample sizes, if they don't come in a size 14 and they come in a size 16, 659 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:48,841 this will allow me to fill them a lot more, true to the size, instead of having to be pinned. 660 00:48:48,926 --> 00:48:52,219 A few years ago, I started working for ASOS curve division. 661 00:48:52,304 --> 00:48:56,432 They had originally gone with what their customers wanted. 662 00:48:56,516 --> 00:49:01,270 Their customers wanted to see girls that were a size 20, 22 modeling the clothes. 663 00:49:01,355 --> 00:49:06,400 Because that was representative of who the customers were who were buying the clothes. 664 00:49:06,485 --> 00:49:08,069 And none of the clothes sold. 665 00:49:08,153 --> 00:49:10,404 They just weren't, weren't selling. 666 00:49:10,489 --> 00:49:16,118 And I moved to the UK and I started working for ASOS and as soon as they started using me, 667 00:49:16,203 --> 00:49:21,707 as a size 16 UK, the clothes started flying off the shelves again. 668 00:49:22,459 --> 00:49:25,503 Companies in America that I've worked for Macy's, Kohl's, 669 00:49:25,587 --> 00:49:27,588 Bloomingdale's where we use padding, 670 00:49:27,673 --> 00:49:32,259 when we work there and it's not all girls and it's not all areas of your body. 671 00:49:32,344 --> 00:49:35,012 For me it's usually just my mid area. 672 00:49:35,097 --> 00:49:36,931 To fill me out there. 673 00:49:37,057 --> 00:49:40,935 And that's why we have plus size models that are size 12, 14 and 16. 674 00:49:41,019 --> 00:49:45,648 Because, that's what people are showing they want with their buying power. 675 00:49:45,732 --> 00:49:51,153 No, I do have that moral conscious of is it the right reason that I'm doing it. 676 00:49:51,238 --> 00:49:54,073 But at the end of the day, it comes down to paying my bills 677 00:49:54,157 --> 00:49:56,659 and if I have to pad to get the job 678 00:49:56,743 --> 00:50:01,956 to pay my bills to be able to eat that week, then that's what I'm going to do. 679 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,959 I think padding is the industry's dirty little secret. 680 00:50:05,043 --> 00:50:09,255 It's something that not many people know of and even when I turn up to jobs, 681 00:50:09,339 --> 00:50:11,674 and I say -Oh, I've got my padding here today.- 682 00:50:11,758 --> 00:50:14,510 The stylists sometimes look at me and laugh. 683 00:50:14,594 --> 00:50:17,346 It's really funny to work with straight size models 684 00:50:17,431 --> 00:50:19,432 because, when you come out with your padding on, 685 00:50:19,516 --> 00:50:21,434 they can hardly believe their eyes. 686 00:50:21,518 --> 00:50:25,646 They're in an industry that tells them to lose weight to be as skinny as possible, 687 00:50:25,731 --> 00:50:29,608 and then when a model that they're working side-by-side with comes out 688 00:50:29,693 --> 00:50:35,614 in a padded suit, they just lose it! They laugh and just think -Wow, you've got it really easy. 689 00:50:35,699 --> 00:50:40,077 I'm told to lose weight constantly and here you are pretending to be bigger.- 690 00:50:42,205 --> 00:50:46,125 I'm so tired of that line selling a dream because you're- 691 00:50:46,209 --> 00:50:50,463 most of your customers are, are never going to achieve that dream. 692 00:50:50,547 --> 00:50:53,007 It's like, 99%o of them. 693 00:50:53,091 --> 00:50:58,637 And even those who do it's, it's not a forever scenario. 694 00:50:58,722 --> 00:51:07,313 Our industry is sort of built on sand castles because, none of this is real. 695 00:51:07,397 --> 00:51:09,690 Fashion photography is not realistic. 696 00:51:09,775 --> 00:51:13,360 And it's, it's about a dream. And it's about perfection. 697 00:51:13,445 --> 00:51:16,489 And it's about you know, looking at something that's really beautiful 698 00:51:16,573 --> 00:51:18,240 and it's a piece of art. 699 00:51:18,325 --> 00:51:21,118 So, on the one hand you have people seeing these images as images 700 00:51:21,203 --> 00:51:24,246 of beauty, aesthetic objects. 701 00:51:24,331 --> 00:51:29,335 But on the other hand, people kind of see these images as images of oppression and 702 00:51:29,419 --> 00:51:32,546 of evidence of a kind power, power imbalance. 703 00:51:32,631 --> 00:51:36,383 So, there is always, I think, an aspirational aspect of beauty 704 00:51:36,468 --> 00:51:38,344 and you see that within fashion 705 00:51:38,428 --> 00:51:42,348 and I think that as we evolve as people, we can open that and broaden it. 706 00:51:42,432 --> 00:51:46,685 But media doesn't necessarily want to do that because by making- 707 00:51:46,770 --> 00:51:52,608 honing that into a very small group of, of really inaccessible forms of beauty 708 00:51:53,735 --> 00:52:00,449 it allows for people to buy things to, you know, get Kim Kardashian's ass and to get, 709 00:52:00,534 --> 00:52:04,620 you know, J Lo's face, but you know, I mean, it's driven by capitalism. 710 00:52:04,704 --> 00:52:09,041 So, the less we can be inclusive, the more we're gonna drive people to purchase things 711 00:52:09,126 --> 00:52:11,710 to make them look a certain way. 712 00:52:11,795 --> 00:52:15,339 If something is always unattainable the desire will never cease. 713 00:52:15,423 --> 00:52:17,466 And so, you'll always be- 714 00:52:18,844 --> 00:52:20,386 be spending money. 715 00:52:20,470 --> 00:52:24,348 lf you look at advertising for food, even the food is retouched. 716 00:52:25,308 --> 00:52:28,185 So, it's really part of the culture, the marketing culture, 717 00:52:28,270 --> 00:52:31,564 that when we sell something it has to be perfect. 718 00:52:31,648 --> 00:52:35,651 Yeah, it's-- it's-- I mean we have to I suppose, present perfection every month 719 00:52:35,735 --> 00:52:37,319 and that's what we do. 720 00:52:37,404 --> 00:52:39,363 You know, it's yeah. 721 00:52:39,447 --> 00:52:41,532 -That's what they want. -Yeah, that's what they want. 722 00:52:41,616 --> 00:52:44,285 I mean she's talked to me about, you know, not retouching images. 723 00:52:44,369 --> 00:52:45,661 I can't do that as Harper's Bazaar. 724 00:52:45,745 --> 00:52:47,621 It's like, you know, it's not my job to do it. 725 00:52:47,706 --> 00:52:50,416 No, no! I'd lose my job. 726 00:52:50,500 --> 00:52:51,208 Yeah. 727 00:52:51,293 --> 00:52:54,378 You often don't see plus size models in beauty campaigns, 728 00:52:54,462 --> 00:52:57,756 and you know, jewelry campaigns and 729 00:52:57,841 --> 00:53:02,845 you know, watches and lifestyle and we're breaking into a fashion 730 00:53:02,929 --> 00:53:08,642 area of the industry but, there's so many places where models are used where 731 00:53:08,727 --> 00:53:10,769 plus size models aren't featured. 732 00:53:10,854 --> 00:53:12,479 It's hard being a model. 733 00:53:14,649 --> 00:53:17,443 Then put a plus model on top of that. 734 00:53:17,527 --> 00:53:19,570 It's even harder to be a plus model. 735 00:53:20,739 --> 00:53:21,739 Then put 736 00:53:23,575 --> 00:53:30,873 this-- that I can't change, but I love so much, my skin color, my heritage, African-American. 737 00:53:32,375 --> 00:53:33,792 Proud African-American. 738 00:53:33,877 --> 00:53:35,294 Put that on there. 739 00:53:35,378 --> 00:53:36,712 That's a whole other layer. 740 00:53:37,505 --> 00:53:41,634 And guess what? That makes it a hundred times harder. 741 00:53:41,718 --> 00:53:48,807 One of our male models, many years ago, one of our really great black male model 742 00:53:48,892 --> 00:53:50,726 that we represented, and he said, 743 00:53:51,436 --> 00:53:54,605 -You know, do you ever noticed that black people don't eat cereal? 744 00:53:54,689 --> 00:53:58,442 Black people don't drink beer?- And I was like "What are you talking about?" 745 00:53:58,526 --> 00:54:00,861 He goes, "Do you ever see that on TV commercials? Do you ever get an audition 746 00:54:00,946 --> 00:54:04,323 for me to go out and do that?" And I thought, -You are so right.- 747 00:54:04,407 --> 00:54:09,328 That's what you see you see those people, who society push out, -Yo! Boom! 748 00:54:09,412 --> 00:54:12,873 You want a new Mercedes? You gotta look like George. 749 00:54:12,958 --> 00:54:14,917 George is sexy. 750 00:54:15,001 --> 00:54:16,669 George has a six-pack. 751 00:54:16,753 --> 00:54:19,588 George drives a Mercedes.- 752 00:54:19,673 --> 00:54:20,339 You know. 753 00:54:20,423 --> 00:54:23,676 -You want to be like Phil? Phil drives a minivan. 754 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,553 He's a dad, he has six kids. 755 00:54:26,638 --> 00:54:28,847 He has a job that he doesn't care for. 756 00:54:28,932 --> 00:54:31,767 Oh! He has a beer belly.- 757 00:54:31,851 --> 00:54:33,852 Okay, thanks for that stereotype. 758 00:54:33,937 --> 00:54:36,730 Um, but no it's not like that. Like, yo, why can't I, 759 00:54:37,482 --> 00:54:40,943 why can't I be the guy who drives the Mercedes? 760 00:54:41,027 --> 00:54:45,864 At the end of the day, everyone wants to dream and everyone wants to be inspired and 761 00:54:45,949 --> 00:54:49,702 feel like they're working towards something. 762 00:54:49,786 --> 00:54:55,749 And I think plus size fashion still needs that, you know, you still want to go 763 00:54:55,834 --> 00:54:59,044 into a plus size store and feel that the clothes are beautiful. 764 00:54:59,963 --> 00:55:04,758 You know you want to go in and feel that they're still trying to sell you some kind of dream. 765 00:55:04,843 --> 00:55:08,304 You know, it doesn't have to be a size 0 dream. 766 00:55:11,016 --> 00:55:13,976 So, I do a lot of vintage store shopping, usually. 767 00:55:14,644 --> 00:55:18,772 I love it, it's kind of like-- it's kind of always been my style. 768 00:55:18,857 --> 00:55:23,777 Oh, my goodness! I have absolutely no real concept of my body yet 769 00:55:23,862 --> 00:55:28,532 cause I've dropped 40 pounds. So, I dropped from 187 to 141 just I- 770 00:55:28,616 --> 00:55:29,992 I weighed myself yesterday. 771 00:55:30,076 --> 00:55:33,912 About 45 pounds difference. So, that's quite a bit. 772 00:55:33,997 --> 00:55:36,957 So, I don't know how to really shop yet, I don't know how to- 773 00:55:37,667 --> 00:55:43,422 I just feel different when I model and I can-- different angles don't look as good. 774 00:55:43,506 --> 00:55:45,591 Kinda got a grampa bum right now. 775 00:55:45,675 --> 00:55:50,679 I don't know if I feel very confident without my weight. 776 00:55:50,764 --> 00:55:55,017 I know that sounds really weird, but I, I feel different without-- with my weight gone. 777 00:55:55,852 --> 00:56:00,939 Oh yeah! First, we'll get to New York we'll be buying some, won't be no $7.99 shirts there, 778 00:56:01,024 --> 00:56:02,024 I don't think. 779 00:56:02,108 --> 00:56:04,943 That's the plan is to go to New York as soon as I'm recovered. 780 00:56:05,028 --> 00:56:08,322 I want to get on that plane. 781 00:56:08,448 --> 00:56:10,449 I'm so excited I've just got to get through it. So- 782 00:56:12,077 --> 00:56:14,661 Yeah! Be patient. 783 00:56:14,746 --> 00:56:15,621 Yeah. 784 00:56:15,705 --> 00:56:18,040 Ooh, that's a nice purse! 785 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,585 It's pretty wonderful that I'm going from pretty much 786 00:56:22,420 --> 00:56:28,801 well driving an '87 Volkswagen that doesn't start, to modeling in New York City. 787 00:56:28,885 --> 00:56:33,305 Hopefully. So, it'll be incredible and I hope that it all works out well. 788 00:56:33,390 --> 00:56:35,015 But they seem to be pretty excited for me. 789 00:56:35,100 --> 00:56:38,644 They say that they're watching me and I just got another email of them checking in on me and 790 00:56:38,728 --> 00:56:40,979 seeing, seeing if I'm ready and I'm still game. 791 00:56:41,064 --> 00:56:43,357 But I feel like I'm locked up, right now. 792 00:56:43,483 --> 00:56:44,983 I feel like I'm in a jail. 793 00:56:45,068 --> 00:56:47,861 It's-- it's hard to push onward sometimes. 794 00:56:47,946 --> 00:56:52,366 But you have to remember the end goal and the end mission. 795 00:56:52,450 --> 00:56:55,661 And just, kind of, I got to keep my eyes on the prize. 796 00:56:55,745 --> 00:56:56,912 And not worry about everyone else, 797 00:56:56,996 --> 00:56:59,456 and the emotions that come with this and what I'm dealing with. 798 00:56:59,541 --> 00:57:03,544 Because in the end, I want to be successful. 799 00:57:03,628 --> 00:57:04,628 And happy. 800 00:57:04,712 --> 00:57:06,839 And I want to instill a lot of confidence in people 801 00:57:06,923 --> 00:57:08,966 because that was my goal in the start. So. 802 00:57:09,968 --> 00:57:11,385 Yeah. 803 00:57:11,469 --> 00:57:15,973 A Vancouver woman battling a rare form of ovarian cancer is sharing her story 804 00:57:16,057 --> 00:57:17,683 in a rather unconventional way. 805 00:57:17,767 --> 00:57:21,979 Despite chemotherapy and surgeries, she's kept working as a fashion model. 806 00:57:22,063 --> 00:57:25,649 She's hoping to change the way her industry thinks about beauty. 807 00:57:25,733 --> 00:57:29,027 There's one shot that is at the Forever Yours store, 808 00:57:29,112 --> 00:57:30,863 and it's the shot with the sports bra? 809 00:57:30,947 --> 00:57:35,701 Looking at that just-- I can't believe it! It's such a beautiful photo, 810 00:57:35,785 --> 00:57:38,537 of what needs to be represented in this world. 811 00:57:38,621 --> 00:57:41,039 At one point, Mayday died her hair teal. 812 00:57:41,124 --> 00:57:45,377 The color of ovarian cancer awareness, before shaving it off. 813 00:57:45,462 --> 00:57:48,088 She has another major surgery scheduled for next week. 814 00:57:48,173 --> 00:57:51,550 After that she has plans to go to New York. 815 00:57:51,634 --> 00:57:56,054 I will be going in for a surgery on Monday, um, that will be very invasive. 816 00:57:56,139 --> 00:57:57,973 It will consist of- 817 00:57:59,726 --> 00:58:02,644 uh, chemo during the treatment about an hour and a half 818 00:58:02,729 --> 00:58:06,899 They don't even do this procedure in BC, yet. 819 00:58:06,983 --> 00:58:08,942 This is just a new thing that they've been doing. 820 00:58:09,027 --> 00:58:14,781 So, hopefully it's-- it's the one that gets me to the, to the finish line. 821 00:58:14,866 --> 00:58:16,575 And not that finish line. 822 00:58:16,659 --> 00:58:18,577 You know? Yeah. 823 00:58:21,581 --> 00:58:25,083 So today, Graden and I are going to go out and go shopping 824 00:58:25,168 --> 00:58:28,795 and see what is available for plus sizes. 825 00:58:29,589 --> 00:58:34,092 Let's see what's the biggest size they have? I think an 8. 826 00:58:34,177 --> 00:58:37,429 I don't think they'd have anything past a size 14 though. 827 00:58:37,514 --> 00:58:39,097 Well, so far, it's been 12 828 00:58:39,182 --> 00:58:40,140 Yeah. 829 00:58:40,225 --> 00:58:46,438 I think everything is just a size 12. Oh! Size 12. 830 00:58:46,523 --> 00:58:48,815 That's it. I think they have like a tall section, 831 00:58:48,900 --> 00:58:53,904 a petite section, but no-- nothing past a size 12. 832 00:58:53,988 --> 00:58:56,782 I can't get it past my upper arm! 833 00:58:58,868 --> 00:59:01,161 It's a ten! It's maternity. 834 00:59:01,246 --> 00:59:02,955 It won't go past my arm. 835 00:59:05,667 --> 00:59:12,047 Hey, did you know, you can only be, like, pregnant up to a size 12 too? You can't get bigger. 836 00:59:13,049 --> 00:59:14,216 That's cute. 837 00:59:15,093 --> 00:59:16,468 But you would never wear it? 838 00:59:16,553 --> 00:59:17,636 I would wear that. 839 00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,681 Up to what size does it go? Large? 840 00:59:21,558 --> 00:59:23,517 My love, I have a question for you. 841 00:59:23,601 --> 00:59:25,852 Up to what size does this go? 842 00:59:33,111 --> 00:59:35,821 It depends. lf you've got extra-large or double extra-large. 843 00:59:35,905 --> 00:59:38,282 -Do they make them in those sizes? -No. 844 00:59:43,705 --> 00:59:47,499 -They didn't even have anything past a size 8 there. -No. 845 00:59:47,584 --> 00:59:51,628 Haven't seen anything all day that's past a size 12 or large. 846 00:59:51,713 --> 00:59:53,880 -No, it kind of looks like the 12 is... -Yeah. 847 00:59:53,965 --> 00:59:56,091 -That seems to be the cutoff. -Yeah. 848 00:59:56,175 --> 00:59:57,259 Mm-mm. 849 00:59:57,343 --> 01:00:01,013 Even in maternity! Even in maternity. 850 01:00:01,097 --> 01:00:02,848 -Just stop growing. -Yes. 851 01:00:02,932 --> 01:00:08,854 They literally divide you up based, based on your size when you go shopping. 852 01:00:08,938 --> 01:00:12,733 I've been in stores, you know, department stores where I would say, 853 01:00:12,817 --> 01:00:18,071 -Oh, can you tell me where the dresses are?" "Umm, for you, it would be on the third floor.- 854 01:00:19,616 --> 01:00:20,616 For me? 855 01:00:23,703 --> 01:00:29,541 Twice, last week, I walked into a store only to be told by the salesgirl that the, 856 01:00:29,626 --> 01:00:31,668 the extra-large was gone. 857 01:00:31,753 --> 01:00:34,296 Because the shipment only comes with one. 858 01:00:34,380 --> 01:00:38,008 I mean, how does that make me feel? I'm one of the package? 859 01:00:38,092 --> 01:00:40,093 And I'm just an extra-large, for god sakes. 860 01:00:40,178 --> 01:00:43,764 It's just because it looks prettier on the rack to have a zero to twelve. 861 01:00:43,848 --> 01:00:48,226 Why would you have plus size? You don't want to associate with girls that are, 862 01:00:48,311 --> 01:00:50,771 I don't know, maybe 200 or 300 pounds. 863 01:00:50,855 --> 01:00:52,064 They don't want to associate with that. 864 01:00:52,148 --> 01:00:56,610 No there's no elitism, there's just pure ignorance, and willful ignorance. 865 01:00:56,694 --> 01:00:59,321 Because, it's like you're literally leaving dollars on the table. 866 01:00:59,405 --> 01:01:03,575 Her average dollar per spend is more than double what a straight size shopper is. 867 01:01:03,660 --> 01:01:07,287 She's going to share on social media more than her straight size sister is going to. 868 01:01:07,372 --> 01:01:10,916 These are things and elements that add to the bottom dollar. 869 01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:15,087 And if you're in a business, in retail at the end of the day, it's all about the dollar. 870 01:01:15,171 --> 01:01:20,342 So even from a marketing, retail, business space it makes no sense. 871 01:01:20,426 --> 01:01:27,057 They decide to sell or not, plus size clothing according to the location of the store. 872 01:01:27,141 --> 01:01:33,355 In Milan, I'm sure that some H&M store sells, for sure, 873 01:01:33,439 --> 01:01:37,359 plus size clothes but not the one in Coso Buenos Aires. 874 01:01:38,444 --> 01:01:42,197 Because it is very, very popular street, you know, 875 01:01:42,281 --> 01:01:46,785 and they don't want to deal with a certain target of people. 876 01:01:46,869 --> 01:01:51,665 I can't wake up and say, -Okay, today, I'm going shopping in Paris.- 877 01:01:51,791 --> 01:01:54,292 Because I just can't. There isn't my size anywhere. 878 01:01:54,377 --> 01:02:00,298 Now if in this day and age, if there were signs in a store that said, 879 01:02:00,383 --> 01:02:02,342 -Blacks shop in the back.- 880 01:02:03,136 --> 01:02:05,262 People would be outraged. 881 01:02:05,346 --> 01:02:07,681 That wouldn't-- no one would allow that. 882 01:02:07,807 --> 01:02:12,060 But for plus-sizes, it's like, -Oh, yeah, you guys go and shop in the back. 883 01:02:12,145 --> 01:02:14,187 Shop downstairs- or wherever it is. 884 01:02:14,272 --> 01:02:16,857 And it's like, -Why is-- why is that okay?- 885 01:02:16,941 --> 01:02:20,652 Because that's what these brands do when they either don't put us in their stores 886 01:02:20,737 --> 01:02:23,321 or put us all the way in the corner and in the dark. 887 01:02:23,406 --> 01:02:24,364 Like that's what they do. 888 01:02:24,449 --> 01:02:26,908 That's what they make us feel like, third class citizens. 889 01:03:29,931 --> 01:03:36,144 Plus size models aren't given the opportunity as much to make great money. 890 01:03:36,229 --> 01:03:41,858 The availability to work at a high end of the fashion industry just isn't there. 891 01:03:41,943 --> 01:03:46,154 So, the plus size models don't get that opportunity to make that kind of money. 892 01:03:46,239 --> 01:03:49,950 And I love it when people say to me, -Oh, wow. 893 01:03:50,034 --> 01:03:52,244 You're in eight pages of Cosmo this month. 894 01:03:52,328 --> 01:03:57,749 You must be killing it. You must be so rich.- Well, actually guys I'm not rich. 895 01:03:57,834 --> 01:03:59,501 I got paid a hundred dollars for that shoot. 896 01:03:59,585 --> 01:04:01,795 I worked seven hours. 897 01:04:01,921 --> 01:04:04,256 My agency fees come out of that. 898 01:04:04,340 --> 01:04:05,924 My tax comes out of that. 899 01:04:06,008 --> 01:04:07,425 My parking comes out of that. 900 01:04:07,510 --> 01:04:11,805 And after a seven-hour day, I've made about $40. 901 01:04:11,931 --> 01:04:16,434 For doing eight pages of a national, well known magazine. 902 01:04:16,519 --> 01:04:18,979 The biggest selling magazine in the world. 903 01:04:19,063 --> 01:04:20,480 So that's why we do the other shoots. 904 01:04:20,565 --> 01:04:25,944 That's why we do the catalog shoots and shoots where we have to wear fat suits, because 905 01:04:26,863 --> 01:04:29,030 they're the jobs that actually pay the money. 906 01:04:29,115 --> 01:04:31,825 Because there are more plus size brands out there now, 907 01:04:31,909 --> 01:04:34,286 across the world there is a lot more work. 908 01:04:34,370 --> 01:04:38,039 And there is that opportunity to make a very steady income. 909 01:04:38,124 --> 01:04:39,958 lf you can work every day, amazing. 910 01:04:40,042 --> 01:04:45,171 But often, you might only have one shoot a week, or two shoots a week. 912 01:04:49,510 --> 01:04:55,807 Generally, a pay day for a day shoot is usually a couple of thousand dollars. 913 01:04:55,892 --> 01:04:57,434 You know, that's fantastic money. 914 01:04:57,518 --> 01:04:59,811 But earnings aren't consistent. 915 01:04:59,896 --> 01:05:04,399 The jobs aren't there every day and they just don't have that availability to work every day. 916 01:05:04,483 --> 01:05:07,235 So, they need to have a second job to support themselves. 917 01:05:10,531 --> 01:05:14,326 Some girls actually spend money trying to be a model and get in debt. 918 01:05:14,410 --> 01:05:18,872 They go overseas, they rack up bills and they don't get any work. 919 01:05:18,998 --> 01:05:22,584 And then they go back to their home country in a whole lot of debt because 920 01:05:22,668 --> 01:05:24,294 all they wanted to do is be a model. 921 01:05:24,378 --> 01:05:25,462 And they never got there. 922 01:05:27,632 --> 01:05:29,049 It's different from everyone. 923 01:05:29,133 --> 01:05:34,554 There's the extreme of very little money to the extreme of making amazing money. 924 01:05:34,639 --> 01:05:38,224 And there's definitely plus size models out there making amazing money. 925 01:05:38,309 --> 01:05:41,102 But it's not everyone. 926 01:05:46,442 --> 01:05:50,403 This was a big blow for Elly and for her family and for her friends. 927 01:05:50,488 --> 01:05:53,031 So, I thought, if we put an event together, 928 01:05:53,115 --> 01:05:55,533 I think that will give her a night to actually have fun. 929 01:05:55,618 --> 01:06:00,121 But also give her kind of, like, one last hurrah before she's in the hospital. 930 01:06:01,165 --> 01:06:02,499 Hey, do you ever look good. 931 01:06:03,584 --> 01:06:06,503 -I love you -I love you too. What's up? 932 01:06:06,587 --> 01:06:08,338 -So, I have a surprise for you. -Okay? 933 01:06:08,422 --> 01:06:13,176 And I just wanted you to have a night before you went in. 934 01:06:14,095 --> 01:06:15,929 And just something to like-- I'm sorry. 935 01:06:16,055 --> 01:06:18,515 I don't want to cry, but like, I just want you to know how much I love you 936 01:06:18,599 --> 01:06:20,350 and how much we all think you're amazing. 937 01:06:20,434 --> 01:06:21,893 And so, I have a surprise for you. 938 01:06:21,978 --> 01:06:22,477 Oh yeah? 939 01:06:22,561 --> 01:06:25,647 -Okay? You need a minute? -I'm already crying! Thank you. 940 01:06:25,731 --> 01:06:27,524 It'll be lovely. 941 01:06:27,608 --> 01:06:28,608 -Okay. -It'll be lovely. 942 01:06:28,693 --> 01:06:29,609 -You okay? -Yeah. 943 01:06:29,694 --> 01:06:32,654 -Do I look okay? -You look beautiful. 944 01:06:32,738 --> 01:06:35,448 This is kind of a big deal. 945 01:06:35,533 --> 01:06:37,701 I'm so glad I didn't wear my sweats. 946 01:06:39,036 --> 01:06:43,623 What in fucking-- that's pretty cool. 947 01:06:43,708 --> 01:06:45,208 Oh my god! 949 01:06:50,589 --> 01:06:53,591 So, everyone's here tonight for you. 950 01:06:53,676 --> 01:06:58,430 And we all just wanted tell you how much we love you, and we're putting on a fashion show. 951 01:06:58,514 --> 01:07:00,056 -Really? -Yes. 952 01:07:01,017 --> 01:07:02,142 Do I have to work? 953 01:07:02,226 --> 01:07:03,226 No. 955 01:07:20,619 --> 01:07:21,953 So, this is a big surprise? 956 01:07:22,038 --> 01:07:23,955 This is an amazing surprise, yeah. 958 01:07:56,280 --> 01:08:00,158 Really opens my eyes to all the kindness that has been shown to my daughter and my family. 959 01:08:00,242 --> 01:08:02,619 No, I had no idea until, like, just driving here. 960 01:08:02,703 --> 01:08:05,163 It was going to be a night out with whoever showed up. 961 01:08:05,247 --> 01:08:09,209 But it turned out to be a night out of me being able to see everyone I love, 962 01:08:09,293 --> 01:08:12,754 and everyone that's supported me through this, and kind of given me a- 963 01:08:12,838 --> 01:08:19,594 a good, um, almost a sayonara to me going off to New York as soon as I'm recovered. 964 01:08:19,678 --> 01:08:24,557 So, surgery's on Monday and everyone wanted to see me and, ah yeah. 965 01:08:24,642 --> 01:08:25,642 It's been pretty nice. 966 01:08:29,772 --> 01:08:33,358 I have such a good feeling that she is going to go through the surgery. 967 01:08:33,442 --> 01:08:35,026 She's gonna do well. 968 01:08:35,111 --> 01:08:37,570 She's gonna beat this and she's gonna take over the world. 969 01:08:37,655 --> 01:08:41,491 Like honestly, she's going to be the plus size model 970 01:08:41,575 --> 01:08:43,785 that's gonna make everybody feel amazing. 972 01:09:24,493 --> 01:09:26,619 It's a foggy old Monday. 973 01:09:28,914 --> 01:09:29,831 Yeah. 974 01:10:16,295 --> 01:10:19,714 I didn't write a journal for cancer like everyone else does. 975 01:10:19,798 --> 01:10:24,844 I posted on Facebook to try to inspire people and to try to do something good in this world 976 01:10:24,929 --> 01:10:26,721 because maybe that was my last chance, 977 01:10:26,805 --> 01:10:31,684 and if that was my last chance then I think I spent it well. It was well spent. 978 01:10:34,730 --> 01:10:36,314 Okay, yeah. This is it, guys. 979 01:10:36,398 --> 01:10:39,692 When I return, I'll hopefully-- I will be a cancer-free, 980 01:10:40,569 --> 01:10:42,153 young woman ready to take on the world. 981 01:10:42,238 --> 01:10:44,697 New York, here I come. 982 01:10:54,833 --> 01:10:58,753 I think at the moment it's-- it's a really weird industry 983 01:10:58,837 --> 01:11:01,756 and that's what so many consumers don't understand 984 01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:04,342 and everyone kind of blames each other. 985 01:11:04,426 --> 01:11:09,180 You know, the magazines are saying, -Well, actually, if designer samples were bigger, 986 01:11:09,265 --> 01:11:11,391 we'd have to use bigger models.- 987 01:11:11,475 --> 01:11:15,186 It's just this vicious circle of the modeling agencies then say, -Well, hang on, 988 01:11:15,271 --> 01:11:17,355 we're only meeting the demands of the fashion editors 989 01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:19,190 that are asking for the size eight to ten.- 990 01:11:19,275 --> 01:11:21,609 But the only reason the fashion editors are asking for size eight to ten, 991 01:11:21,694 --> 01:11:23,945 it's because the sample sizes come in that. 992 01:11:24,029 --> 01:11:26,531 But then you've got the designers and retailers say -Well, hang on, 993 01:11:26,615 --> 01:11:28,700 the only reason we're creating-- you know, we're creating that size 994 01:11:28,784 --> 01:11:33,788 is because it's really costly to create another block on a larger size.- 995 01:11:33,872 --> 01:11:37,875 So, it's a vicious circle that nobody wants to take sole responsibility, 996 01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:39,419 but actually, it's everyone's responsibility. 997 01:11:39,503 --> 01:11:42,213 So, everyone needs to take a slice of that pie and own it. 998 01:11:42,298 --> 01:11:43,965 I don't even begin to say we're not the bad guys. 999 01:11:44,049 --> 01:11:47,510 I think there's an element that we are the bad guys, but so are the retailers, 1000 01:11:47,594 --> 01:11:50,221 the designers, the modeling agencies, the consumers. 1001 01:11:50,306 --> 01:11:53,933 Like, we're all, we all have got to take a bit of blame on our shoulders. 1002 01:11:54,018 --> 01:11:57,562 And we've all got to act to make that change, you know. 1003 01:11:57,646 --> 01:12:01,274 So, there is a lot more we can be doing in Cosmo. 1004 01:12:01,358 --> 01:12:03,568 Likewise, consumers need to stand up and have a voice, 1005 01:12:03,652 --> 01:12:05,570 and have their say and vote with their wallet. 1006 01:12:05,654 --> 01:12:10,241 Designers need to look at, well, is it time to start investing in bigger blocks 1007 01:12:10,326 --> 01:12:14,912 and cutting, you know, larger sizes that fit women, and sell more garments. 1008 01:12:14,997 --> 01:12:19,417 You know and-- if everyone can just lift and do that little bit extra. 1009 01:12:19,501 --> 01:12:22,295 I'm not-- I'm not sitting here saying, -Oh, we're not the bad guy. Don't blame us.- 1010 01:12:22,421 --> 01:12:26,507 Because there is-- like, you know, as a mother, I've got two daughters 1011 01:12:26,592 --> 01:12:28,301 and I don't want my children growing up- 1012 01:12:28,427 --> 01:12:31,012 I don't want those girls growing up with bad body image. 1013 01:12:31,096 --> 01:12:34,640 I don't want them looking at magazines going, -I feel terrible about my body. 1014 01:12:34,725 --> 01:12:37,310 I'm not skinny enough, I'm not fit enough, I'm not fashionable enough, 1015 01:12:37,394 --> 01:12:38,686 I'm not whatever enough.- 1016 01:12:39,521 --> 01:12:43,691 You know, so, we certainly have a responsibility, 1017 01:12:43,776 --> 01:12:46,944 and I don't shrug that and think -Oh, we're doing, what we're doing, so don't blame us, 1018 01:12:47,029 --> 01:12:48,613 go and blame somebody else.- You know, 1019 01:12:48,697 --> 01:12:54,327 I'm putting my hand up to take some of that blame, but we're trying to do something about it. 1020 01:12:54,411 --> 01:12:59,457 You know, and-- and it's, it's walking that fine line between, being business and making money, 1021 01:12:59,541 --> 01:13:03,461 but also having that ethical, moral, social responsibility. 1022 01:13:05,964 --> 01:13:10,468 This revolution is carried out by people, not the fashion industry. 1023 01:13:10,552 --> 01:13:18,643 And since people are the real protagonists of this movement, of this phenomenon, 1024 01:13:18,727 --> 01:13:26,734 social media very useful to, to achieve our goals because they are the only, 1025 01:13:27,486 --> 01:13:30,905 the only means, the only way to let 1026 01:13:32,616 --> 01:13:39,997 bigger and bigger number of people know that plus sized women count. 1027 01:13:40,082 --> 01:13:44,460 We have to keep encouraging brands to include more plus size models. 1028 01:13:44,545 --> 01:13:46,170 I mean, we're the public. 1029 01:13:46,922 --> 01:13:48,881 We're the ones spending money on clothing. 1030 01:13:48,966 --> 01:13:53,553 We're the ones pushing the industry, so we need to push it forward. 1031 01:13:53,637 --> 01:13:59,559 We need to create the momentum that'll bring in more diversity, bring in more plus size models 1032 01:13:59,643 --> 01:14:03,354 of different shapes, different heights that we can all relate to. 1033 01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:09,360 I am absolutely amazed and shocked this year at how much traction 1034 01:14:09,445 --> 01:14:12,572 the movement has gotten because it really has been grassroots. 1035 01:14:12,656 --> 01:14:18,744 And in some ways now, I feel like the media, mainstream media is almost trying to latch itself 1036 01:14:18,829 --> 01:14:21,372 onto it and you know, make it this cool thing. 1037 01:14:21,457 --> 01:14:24,876 And it's like, -Just so you know, you didn't make this happen. 1038 01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,837 You're late to the game, we made this shit happen.- 1039 01:14:27,921 --> 01:14:31,424 We've created our own celebrities. 1040 01:14:31,550 --> 01:14:32,884 It's because there is nobody to look up to. 1041 01:14:32,968 --> 01:14:36,554 And then you have girls like Gaby Fresh, and the Curvy Fashionista, 1042 01:14:36,638 --> 01:14:43,436 and Nadia Aboulhosn and like all these girls down in the States that have just gone huge. 1043 01:14:43,562 --> 01:14:45,062 I love my fans. I do. 1044 01:14:45,147 --> 01:14:47,899 They are so sweet and, 1045 01:14:47,983 --> 01:14:50,818 you know, they post on my Facebook wall with um, 1046 01:14:50,903 --> 01:14:53,946 you know, little stories about their lives and how I've inspired them. 1047 01:14:54,031 --> 01:14:58,743 And I find it like really touching and it really inspires me to keep doing what I'm doing. 1048 01:14:58,827 --> 01:15:04,832 I think that sometimes I keep going in this career as a plus model 1049 01:15:04,917 --> 01:15:06,584 because I know that they're watching me. 1050 01:15:06,668 --> 01:15:08,461 I know that I inspire them. 1051 01:15:08,545 --> 01:15:15,593 I know that they want to be-- they think when they see me, -If Liris can do it, I can do it.- 1052 01:15:15,677 --> 01:15:20,973 Yeah, I think this is very important because growing up I had no one that looked like me 1053 01:15:21,058 --> 01:15:24,101 to look up to, like no one. 1054 01:15:24,186 --> 01:15:28,105 So, I'm so glad when I get messages from young girls that say, 1055 01:15:28,190 --> 01:15:33,778 -Oh my god, you look like me, so cool, like.- And I felt like, this is like the best gift 1056 01:15:33,862 --> 01:15:40,493 of the work, is like, inspiring younger girls and tell them it's okay to be you. 1057 01:15:40,577 --> 01:15:45,706 And this is, yeah, the most rewarding part of everything. 1058 01:15:45,791 --> 01:15:46,832 It's, it's this. 1059 01:15:46,917 --> 01:15:50,878 It's being a part of this revolution, being a part of the change. 1060 01:15:50,963 --> 01:15:52,797 Yeah, that's amazing. 1061 01:15:57,886 --> 01:15:59,053 I don't like hospitals. 1062 01:15:59,972 --> 01:16:04,225 It was, it wasn't fun being here, but it was like I had, nice nurses and everything. 1063 01:16:05,060 --> 01:16:08,729 It wasn't, it wasn't too smooth a sail in there, the first couple of days. 1064 01:16:11,108 --> 01:16:13,901 No, it was, yeah it was eight and a half hours long. 1065 01:16:14,903 --> 01:16:18,906 Four surgeons total, and five anesthesiologists, bunch of nurses. 1066 01:16:19,741 --> 01:16:21,826 Yeah, the nurses were so nice. 1067 01:16:21,910 --> 01:16:27,164 I gave them one of my calendars here for-- so tried to maybe spread the story a little bit 1068 01:16:27,249 --> 01:16:29,875 to a couple of people, but I didn't really want to deal with any 1069 01:16:30,711 --> 01:16:33,170 Elly Mayday crap this week, you know. 1070 01:16:34,756 --> 01:16:36,841 People that were helping me weren't really helping me. 1071 01:16:36,925 --> 01:16:39,510 They didn't understand that I didn't want as much media. 1072 01:16:39,595 --> 01:16:42,013 I don't want a bunch of media coverage over my sickness. 1073 01:16:42,097 --> 01:16:43,180 I want to be healthy. 1074 01:16:43,265 --> 01:16:51,147 So, um, yeah, when I-- when I do all this media coverage, I wanted to be ready to go 1075 01:16:51,231 --> 01:16:53,232 and like looking decent normal and stuff. 1076 01:16:53,317 --> 01:16:57,612 And so, it kind of took off a little bit sooner than I wanted it to and so that really sucks. 1077 01:17:00,115 --> 01:17:03,034 I'm not known for cancer and that's my one thing, it's like. 1078 01:17:03,118 --> 01:17:04,785 I don't want to be known for cancer. 1079 01:17:04,870 --> 01:17:06,537 I wanna be known for being strong. 1080 01:17:06,622 --> 01:17:10,249 This wasn't a cancer story, this is a-- this is just part of my life. 1081 01:17:10,334 --> 01:17:11,876 This is a cancer bump. 1082 01:17:12,836 --> 01:17:14,879 You know, like what I've said along this whole time. 1083 01:17:14,963 --> 01:17:20,051 So, I didn't write a journal, like-- I feel like people who are gonna die, write a journal. 1084 01:17:20,135 --> 01:17:24,597 I know that sounds really silly, but in my mind, I always thought, like if I write out 1085 01:17:24,681 --> 01:17:28,893 how this all went then there's, there's a reason for it to end, you know. 1086 01:17:28,977 --> 01:17:33,064 If I don't, if I have kept this story then He has to let me tell it. 1087 01:17:33,148 --> 01:17:34,106 It's too good. 1088 01:17:34,816 --> 01:17:37,318 So, that's kind of what I held on to. 1089 01:17:39,404 --> 01:17:40,363 Yeah. 1090 01:17:42,824 --> 01:17:49,080 And we saw a big shift in the market with a lot of body positivity 1091 01:17:49,164 --> 01:17:54,043 A lot of, like, anti-airbrushing and a lot of wanting to see real people. 1092 01:17:54,127 --> 01:17:58,297 So, we've collaborated or we've purchased a lot of designer clothes. 1093 01:17:58,382 --> 01:18:03,344 So, names like William Rast, DKNY, Levi's, Parasuco. 1094 01:18:03,428 --> 01:18:08,349 So, these are all lines that weren't previously offered to plus. 1095 01:18:08,433 --> 01:18:13,229 We're just so happy to, to be a part of the changeover 1096 01:18:13,313 --> 01:18:17,650 especially for curvier sized women that that's no longer the mentality. 1097 01:18:17,734 --> 01:18:21,320 That we're no longer women crying in the dressing rooms 1098 01:18:21,405 --> 01:18:23,948 or wearing giant T-shirts to the beach. 1099 01:18:24,032 --> 01:18:27,785 Everything that we can do to make sure that every woman, 1100 01:18:27,869 --> 01:18:30,955 you know, looks and feels beautiful when they're in a swimsuit. 1101 01:18:31,039 --> 01:18:34,333 And if you look at the size of the population, 1102 01:18:34,418 --> 01:18:40,297 50% of women in Europe are what, what would be considered plus size. 1103 01:18:40,382 --> 01:18:44,218 Europe represents a 10 billion Euro opportunity. 1104 01:18:44,302 --> 01:18:50,641 Once people recognize just how big an opportunity that this is, they're going to go after it. 1105 01:18:50,726 --> 01:18:54,812 You know the market is opening up slowly and continuously. 1106 01:18:54,896 --> 01:19:00,860 I think some of the higher end media are using plus size models from time to time, 1107 01:19:00,944 --> 01:19:03,028 you know, in the high-end fashion publications. 1108 01:19:03,113 --> 01:19:07,783 I think through social media women, bigger women especially 1109 01:19:07,868 --> 01:19:12,371 have become a much stronger voice about what they want and how they want to be portrayed. 1110 01:19:12,456 --> 01:19:17,376 It's a cycle of the public and bloggers kind of feeding that information 1111 01:19:17,461 --> 01:19:19,879 back into companies and companies delivering. 1112 01:19:19,963 --> 01:19:24,133 Forever 21 is doing something incredible because they're being really inclusionary. 1113 01:19:24,217 --> 01:19:27,678 Especially if you go to their Times Square store, they have a huge plus size section. 1114 01:19:27,763 --> 01:19:31,098 I think the store's something like three or four stories. 1115 01:19:31,183 --> 01:19:32,933 It's a lot of clothes in there. 1116 01:19:33,018 --> 01:19:37,688 Larger brand stores like Big W, K-Mart, Target 1117 01:19:37,773 --> 01:19:41,817 are rebranding their sectors, changing them. 1118 01:19:41,902 --> 01:19:43,861 It's really kind of exciting. 1119 01:19:43,945 --> 01:19:48,115 We're in a really good transition period right now which is really positive. 1120 01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:52,912 Bigger women haven't had an opportunity to get used to investing in themselves, 1121 01:19:52,996 --> 01:19:55,456 in spending money, they've only ever had cheaper choices. 1122 01:19:55,540 --> 01:20:00,753 So, it takes a while for everyone to sort of get used to the idea that you're worth it, 1123 01:20:00,879 --> 01:20:02,755 you can spend the money on yourself. 1124 01:20:02,839 --> 01:20:07,134 I think we're changing the path now with plus size models, labels, media 1125 01:20:07,219 --> 01:20:09,720 that it is something to be excited about. 1126 01:20:09,805 --> 01:20:13,724 It's not that sort of shadowy word that no one mentions anymore. 1127 01:20:13,809 --> 01:20:16,018 It's plus size, be proud of it. 1129 01:20:20,482 --> 01:20:22,107 Yeah, um. 1130 01:20:22,192 --> 01:20:23,901 I'm excited and nervous. 1131 01:20:23,985 --> 01:20:26,987 I'm so-- I'm nervous. 1132 01:20:27,072 --> 01:20:30,449 -Good morning. I cannot believe we're finally going to get to meet you. 1133 01:20:30,534 --> 01:20:33,410 When you find out a date or even a timeframe let us know, 1134 01:20:33,495 --> 01:20:35,996 we will definitely make ourselves available. 1135 01:20:36,081 --> 01:20:39,959 I can't tell you how happy it makes me to hear you're getting your life back. 1136 01:20:40,043 --> 01:20:41,794 Please stay in New York City a little longer. 1137 01:20:41,878 --> 01:20:44,755 We need as much time with you as we can possibly get. 1138 01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:48,259 So much is happening and it's exciting knowing you will be will be a part of it.- 1139 01:20:48,343 --> 01:20:53,222 So that's just like right there it's like, "Uh, yeah!- Yeah. 1140 01:20:53,306 --> 01:20:56,267 So, I'm pretty stoked to go and meet them. 1141 01:20:57,352 --> 01:21:00,896 So, when I started modeling, I weighed about 187 pounds. 1142 01:21:00,981 --> 01:21:04,066 Today I weigh 134. 1143 01:21:04,150 --> 01:21:08,946 I started gaining weight in about grade seven, grade eight, about the time when it matters 1144 01:21:09,030 --> 01:21:11,490 what you look like and I've always been bigger. 1145 01:21:12,367 --> 01:21:17,454 The most I've ever weighed was 197. 1146 01:21:17,539 --> 01:21:23,252 I posted a photo last week of-- and I was pretty hesitant on doing the selfies again. 1147 01:21:24,087 --> 01:21:30,509 And I see exactly why I was-- I was holding back because the reaction was 1148 01:21:30,594 --> 01:21:34,972 a lot of women said to me like, I can no longer follow you. 1149 01:21:35,056 --> 01:21:39,101 You're, you're not aware of the curves and all this kind of stuff. 1150 01:21:41,354 --> 01:21:45,566 It's hard to be an advocate of something when you're not it, 1151 01:21:45,650 --> 01:21:47,568 when you're not representing it, at the time. 1152 01:21:47,652 --> 01:21:51,572 So, I think girls don't think I really know what it's like to be bigger, you know. 1153 01:21:51,656 --> 01:21:56,285 I don't feel like I can give advice to girls that are bigger as much now, 1154 01:21:56,369 --> 01:22:01,373 unless I have my photos with me, or you can say like, you know, no I just lost a lot of weight. 1155 01:22:02,959 --> 01:22:08,339 Yeah, it's a weird mix of emotions for me regarding my weight loss. 1156 01:22:08,423 --> 01:22:13,177 I still want to be a lingerie model even though I have a ginormous scar on my stomach. 1157 01:22:13,261 --> 01:22:14,178 It's part of me 1158 01:22:14,262 --> 01:22:17,848 and I'm only gonna work with people that are willing to work with people like me. 1159 01:22:17,933 --> 01:22:20,851 People that are embracing exactly who they are. 1160 01:22:20,936 --> 01:22:24,855 I want to be a model for positivity and a model that people can look up to 1161 01:22:24,940 --> 01:22:27,358 whether you're going through cancer, whether you're going through bulimia. 1162 01:22:27,442 --> 01:22:31,612 Whatever you're going through, whatever your trials and tribulations of your life, 1163 01:22:31,696 --> 01:22:33,405 you need someone to look up to. 1164 01:22:48,338 --> 01:22:50,339 It's weird to be able to see future. 1165 01:22:50,423 --> 01:22:55,219 I was like, so focused on this life-threatening disease for this past year, 1166 01:22:55,303 --> 01:22:57,930 it's really weird to be out of the storm now. 1167 01:22:58,014 --> 01:23:01,308 You know and to have doctors be like, -Well, we took all the cancer out of you.- 1168 01:23:01,393 --> 01:23:06,522 So, it goes from thinking you're losing your life into now what are you gonna do? 1169 01:23:07,399 --> 01:23:11,193 It'll be fun to go off to New York and make it big, hopefully, 1170 01:23:11,277 --> 01:23:17,658 and be on the covers of some major magazines and share my story with women. 1171 01:23:21,621 --> 01:23:23,539 Over the past few years, 1172 01:23:23,623 --> 01:23:29,253 I have been doing public talks on body positivity and self-empowerment. 1173 01:23:29,337 --> 01:23:33,590 I definitely think my public talks are a little bit of an extension 1174 01:23:33,675 --> 01:23:35,426 of the work I've done in the past. 1175 01:23:35,510 --> 01:23:39,054 Like I've been an advice columnist for magazines. 1176 01:23:39,139 --> 01:23:45,602 I've offered a lot of online, kind of mentoring and advice to not just aspiring models 1177 01:23:45,687 --> 01:23:48,147 but also anyone in general. 1178 01:23:48,231 --> 01:23:51,942 I've always been a very open book with people. 1179 01:23:52,027 --> 01:23:55,946 So, for me to be able to go into my community 1180 01:23:56,031 --> 01:23:59,491 and have these public talks, it's just a way to connect. 1181 01:23:59,576 --> 01:24:03,120 I'm not ashamed of my battle and if you find yourself struggling 1182 01:24:03,204 --> 01:24:04,997 remember that the road is hardly ever... 1183 01:24:05,123 --> 01:24:08,792 I think we underestimate the value and the importance of sharing our story, 1184 01:24:09,711 --> 01:24:13,464 and I'm always happy to share my story with people. 1185 01:24:16,551 --> 01:24:19,553 So, here she is, Kerosene Deluxe! 1187 01:24:27,395 --> 01:24:29,605 Thanks so much, everyone, for coming. 1188 01:24:30,565 --> 01:24:33,358 It's really awesome for everyone to be here. 1189 01:24:34,110 --> 01:24:37,571 I've been doing modeling for about 15 years now and 1190 01:24:37,655 --> 01:24:42,493 it's progressed a lot from just kind of being like a rebellious act. 1191 01:24:42,577 --> 01:24:49,583 Sometimes it just takes that one thing that someone needs to hear that might ignite that spark 1192 01:24:49,667 --> 01:24:53,337 or get that ball rolling for them to be like, -Hey, you know what? 1193 01:24:53,421 --> 01:24:59,384 I am allowed to love myself and I am worthy of love.- 1194 01:25:00,136 --> 01:25:04,264 I'm personally not ashamed at all of my battle and if any of you here 1195 01:25:04,349 --> 01:25:09,686 find yourself struggling just remember that your road to recovery is, 1196 01:25:09,771 --> 01:25:15,567 it's hardly ever linear, it's very often super bumpy and it's definitely okay to stumble. 1197 01:25:15,652 --> 01:25:19,363 And it's, it's okay to not be okay sometimes. 1198 01:25:19,447 --> 01:25:25,035 I think by uniting in an event like this and seeing the people around you 1199 01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:28,163 and how different they are it, kind of, makes you realize that, 1200 01:25:28,248 --> 01:25:31,083 "Hey, I'm not alone with this issue. 1201 01:25:31,167 --> 01:25:35,754 The person next to me who I might consider to look perfect because they're, 1202 01:25:35,839 --> 01:25:39,550 you know, tall and slender or they have a nice ass 1203 01:25:39,634 --> 01:25:42,678 or whatever like they could still have issues as well." 1204 01:25:42,762 --> 01:25:47,724 And I think it's important to understand that we all have those little things 1205 01:25:47,809 --> 01:25:50,894 about ourselves that we wish were different and that's okay. 1206 01:25:51,729 --> 01:25:55,482 People's insecurities create billion-dollar industries 1207 01:25:55,567 --> 01:26:00,737 and there's no price on your self-worth and it can't be measured on a scale. 1208 01:26:00,822 --> 01:26:04,199 You are then, now, and you're always enough. 1209 01:26:04,284 --> 01:26:07,452 So, that is all I really had to share with you guys. 1210 01:26:07,537 --> 01:26:09,454 Aww, thanks. 1211 01:26:14,544 --> 01:26:17,713 I love being able to talk to people after my talks 1212 01:26:17,797 --> 01:26:20,841 and what they-- what they what they got from it. 1213 01:26:20,925 --> 01:26:23,760 It's very touching to hear other people's stories as well 1214 01:26:23,845 --> 01:26:26,597 because it's not really just about my story, 1215 01:26:26,681 --> 01:26:30,517 it's as much as about their story as well. 1216 01:26:38,651 --> 01:26:41,278 [Laura] Yeah, so this is my first cover and I'm super excited. 1217 01:26:41,362 --> 01:26:43,572 It's a regular fashion magazine. 1218 01:26:43,656 --> 01:26:47,159 I think that's even more important in fact that they're putting a plus size girl 1219 01:26:47,285 --> 01:26:50,704 on the cover and for the editorial because they are wanting 1220 01:26:50,788 --> 01:26:54,333 to celebrate diversity and show that, you know, the plus size models 1221 01:26:54,417 --> 01:26:57,377 give it just as good as the regular size models do. 1222 01:27:00,465 --> 01:27:04,343 I'm a size 14, so that is classified as plus size, 1223 01:27:04,427 --> 01:27:07,304 in the modeling industry anyway, not in reality, yeah? 1224 01:27:07,388 --> 01:27:08,889 See you. Thanks, bye. 1225 01:27:11,684 --> 01:27:16,563 We're doing an editorial as well as the cover today at this amazing house. 1226 01:27:16,648 --> 01:27:20,484 You know, it means a lot and it means that people are actually seeing my photos and who I am 1227 01:27:20,568 --> 01:27:24,655 and what plus size modeling means to larger society. 1228 01:27:24,739 --> 01:27:27,824 Women and men want to see women of all different- 1229 01:27:27,909 --> 01:27:31,620 and men of all different sizes in the media and in magazines. 1230 01:27:31,704 --> 01:27:34,998 So, it's-- it's great. It's super positive to be here. 1231 01:27:45,593 --> 01:27:50,806 This month is pretty amazing for me because I'm in four magazines in 1232 01:27:50,890 --> 01:27:54,893 one news agency all around Australia, which is pretty incredible and 1233 01:27:54,978 --> 01:27:59,940 ne of my favorite ones is Slink agazine from the UK that's newly come to Australia 1234 01:28:00,024 --> 01:28:04,903 and I'm on the front cover of it and on an editorial in the inside as well. 1235 01:28:04,988 --> 01:28:08,740 So, it's pretty cool that you know, I can come into one news agency 1236 01:28:08,825 --> 01:28:10,784 and see myself in four magazines. 1237 01:28:10,868 --> 01:28:16,331 Women's Weekly did a body issue this month, and myself and four other plus size models 1238 01:28:16,416 --> 01:28:19,960 were able to do an editorial piece and talking about our bodies. 1239 01:28:20,044 --> 01:28:21,378 And what we love about our bodies. 1240 01:28:21,462 --> 01:28:25,841 How we feel confident or what made us feel unconfident especially when we were younger. 1241 01:28:25,925 --> 01:28:30,470 I was lucky enough to get a piece in the front of Women's Weekly Health, 1242 01:28:30,555 --> 01:28:34,266 an article about myself being a role model for people 1243 01:28:34,392 --> 01:28:38,395 with body confidence issues and being a positive body advocator. 1244 01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:42,858 And finally, this month, I'm also in Cosmopolitan Australia. 1245 01:28:42,942 --> 01:28:47,237 It's an eight-page editorial on denim and they don't tell anyone it's a plus size model. 1246 01:28:47,322 --> 01:28:50,365 They don't say, -This is Laura Wells. She's a plus size model.- 1247 01:28:50,450 --> 01:28:52,701 They just say -model Laura Wells.- 1248 01:28:52,785 --> 01:28:54,953 We shouldn't have to put labels on plus size models. 1249 01:28:55,038 --> 01:28:58,332 We should just be able to call them models because that's what we are. 1250 01:29:05,048 --> 01:29:09,593 Getting a cover and an editorial for an overseas magazine is really a big thing 1251 01:29:09,677 --> 01:29:12,512 in the plus industry because as plus sized women we- 1252 01:29:12,597 --> 01:29:14,264 and plus size models, we don't get it that often. 1253 01:29:14,349 --> 01:29:17,601 So, it was a huge opportunity and I feel really privileged 1254 01:29:17,685 --> 01:29:20,520 to have been chosen to be here today. 1255 01:29:28,446 --> 01:29:30,947 I think we're doing-- I think we're doing really wonderful right now. 1256 01:29:31,032 --> 01:29:35,535 I think that we're progressing at a really, really rapid pace. 1257 01:29:37,705 --> 01:29:39,790 I couldn't have predicted that we'd be here now, 1258 01:29:39,874 --> 01:29:43,001 so I couldn't imagine what's gonna be in five years. 1259 01:29:43,086 --> 01:29:44,503 I know I'm not a fortune teller. 1260 01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:51,468 But I would tell you that I can just picture us in billboards in Times Square 1261 01:29:51,552 --> 01:29:56,681 and in every runway show and mixed with, you know, the straight size brands. 1262 01:30:00,812 --> 01:30:03,855 I think we have no idea what we're gonna go to, but I think it's gonna be beautiful 1263 01:30:03,940 --> 01:30:07,359 no matter where we end up cause we're already so far. 1264 01:30:07,443 --> 01:30:08,360 Oh god. 1265 01:30:08,444 --> 01:30:09,528 It's gonna be fun. 1266 01:30:09,612 --> 01:30:10,862 I can't wait to see it. 1268 01:30:31,843 --> 01:30:33,009 Hi. 1269 01:30:42,770 --> 01:30:44,980 New York, New York 1271 01:30:50,528 --> 01:30:53,864 I'm excited, nervous, pretty tired. 1272 01:30:53,948 --> 01:30:57,159 But it should be good. It was a full flight so. 1273 01:31:05,585 --> 01:31:07,794 When I was younger, smaller trips and stuff. 1274 01:31:07,879 --> 01:31:12,924 I've been down to the States, but uh, nothing like New York. 1275 01:31:13,009 --> 01:31:14,509 Been to Las Vegas. 1276 01:31:14,594 --> 01:31:19,639 And yeah, just like short little ones, but yeah, this will definitely be the longest time 1277 01:31:19,724 --> 01:31:21,057 I've ever spent in the States. 1278 01:31:23,019 --> 01:31:26,980 Hopefully, it'll not be the only time. 1279 01:31:28,816 --> 01:31:31,443 -Thank you very much. Nice to, nice to meet you. -Have a good one. 1280 01:31:31,569 --> 01:31:32,777 Thank you very much. 1281 01:31:41,579 --> 01:31:44,080 I'm here, I made it. 1282 01:31:45,750 --> 01:31:49,085 Ugh, nice to be finally here. 1283 01:31:50,129 --> 01:31:54,132 Well, it'll be interesting to see what tomorrow brings. 1284 01:31:57,553 --> 01:32:02,641 Of course, my skin gets really bad the day before I meet an agency. 1285 01:32:06,062 --> 01:32:07,771 It's my first night in New York. 1286 01:32:07,855 --> 01:32:10,440 I'm ready for bed cause I'm quite tired. 1287 01:32:10,525 --> 01:32:15,237 But yeah, get a good sleep in and be fresh-faced for tomorrow. 1288 01:32:23,621 --> 01:32:27,624 Ugh, I'm really annoyed that my skin's terrible right now, 1289 01:32:28,543 --> 01:32:30,877 but there's nothing I can do about that. 1290 01:32:32,004 --> 01:32:33,922 Hopefully, it'll just go away. 1291 01:32:35,550 --> 01:32:39,219 The lighting's, like, really terrible, um, maybe I can do it out here. 1292 01:32:43,891 --> 01:32:49,020 I think just like meeting them will be good, to start everything out. 1293 01:32:50,064 --> 01:32:53,984 I signed a contract with these people for three years, for the next three years. 1294 01:32:54,068 --> 01:32:58,780 So, hopefully they like what they picked. 1295 01:32:59,615 --> 01:33:00,949 Just gonna be myself 1296 01:33:03,077 --> 01:33:05,579 and hopefully that's good enough. 1297 01:33:10,585 --> 01:33:15,046 Now, I know they're gonna make me take my wig off, obviously, but 1298 01:33:16,090 --> 01:33:18,883 I think they'd like it a lot better short so. 1299 01:33:20,261 --> 01:33:22,721 I'm just gonna wear it there. 1300 01:33:55,212 --> 01:33:58,548 -Hello! Hi, how are you? -Hi, nice to meet you. 1301 01:33:58,633 --> 01:34:03,762 -I'm Gary, so nice to meet you. So welcome, this is JAG. -Nice. 1302 01:34:03,846 --> 01:34:08,933 Still in the works, we've been in two weeks and yeah, it's going really well. 1303 01:34:09,018 --> 01:34:11,061 -Good. -Really, really well. 1304 01:34:11,145 --> 01:34:13,355 What size are you wearing currently? 1305 01:34:14,065 --> 01:34:15,023 I think I'm a ten right now. 1306 01:34:15,107 --> 01:34:18,735 -Yeah. Ten to twelve. -ln our market you're going to be a little bit bigger. 1307 01:34:18,819 --> 01:34:22,739 So, like a 42 to 44 is going to be a 12-14. 1308 01:34:22,823 --> 01:34:24,741 -I think that's probably where the hip is. -Yeah. 1309 01:34:24,825 --> 01:34:27,994 -So, you're pretty much a perfect 14. -Okay. 1310 01:34:29,163 --> 01:34:31,790 -Hah, I see what you did there. 1311 01:34:33,167 --> 01:34:34,626 Can't believe you're finally here. 1312 01:34:34,752 --> 01:34:36,961 I know, it feels like I just talked about it forever. 1313 01:34:37,046 --> 01:34:39,589 I know. I know, right? 1314 01:34:39,674 --> 01:34:42,717 So, I'll probably stand out on your board here with all the girls that have such long hair. 1315 01:34:42,802 --> 01:34:45,220 -Yes. -Like if I do go short, you know. 1316 01:34:45,304 --> 01:34:47,764 Should I get my hair cut before tomorrow or not? 1317 01:34:47,848 --> 01:34:49,057 Let me see again? 1318 01:34:49,141 --> 01:34:50,809 Like, it's pretty messy. 1319 01:34:52,186 --> 01:34:55,063 -I don't think she should cut it. I like it messy. -Like it messy? 1320 01:34:55,147 --> 01:34:57,857 Do you think you'll be able to line up jobs at all this next two weeks or not? 1321 01:34:57,942 --> 01:34:59,025 It depends on you. 1322 01:34:59,110 --> 01:35:00,985 -Yeah. -Depends on how you do in the testing. 1323 01:35:01,070 --> 01:35:03,863 It depends on how you do when we send you out on castings. 1324 01:35:03,948 --> 01:35:10,036 Um, because you're so new to this market, it could go either way. 1325 01:35:11,205 --> 01:35:13,289 -And you had never been here before? -No, no. 1326 01:35:13,374 --> 01:35:16,376 -So, what do you want to see while you're here? -Uh, everything. 1327 01:35:16,460 --> 01:35:17,794 Everything? 1328 01:35:26,303 --> 01:35:31,683 I'm in the fashion capital of the world, so I kind of need to reinvent myself at this point. 1329 01:35:31,767 --> 01:35:33,977 I'm excited for what's to come next. 1330 01:35:34,061 --> 01:35:38,398 I don't really know, but I guess that's the adventure of life isn't it? 1331 01:35:52,204 --> 01:35:54,289 All the paperwork's done by JAG. So, it's great. 1332 01:35:54,373 --> 01:35:57,876 I just kind of show up, do the shoot and tra-la-la. 1333 01:35:57,960 --> 01:36:02,881 So, it's, that's part of it I guess, it's like an everyday job whereas, I've taken it from 1334 01:36:02,965 --> 01:36:07,927 it being just my, my creativity and my fun thing to do on the side, 1335 01:36:08,012 --> 01:36:13,767 it's turned into what could potentially be a full-time position as a model. 1336 01:36:17,104 --> 01:36:21,024 Just working and just feeling like I'm moving forward in life 1337 01:36:21,108 --> 01:36:23,234 is really what I was excited for, so. 1338 01:36:23,319 --> 01:36:26,112 I'm happy to be here, finally. 1339 01:36:34,955 --> 01:36:39,375 Well, I'm scared of remaining sick and not becoming cancer-free basically. 1340 01:36:39,460 --> 01:36:42,879 I don't if that's gonna hold me back, or if my scar's gonna hold me back, 1341 01:36:42,963 --> 01:36:45,256 but I'm gonna do it anyways. 1342 01:36:45,341 --> 01:36:48,426 Yeah, I guess that's like the scariest thing is people rejecting me because of 1343 01:36:48,511 --> 01:36:49,803 the scar I have on my body. 1344 01:36:52,473 --> 01:36:57,477 It's still not really, I'm still not really realizing it that I'm a signed model. 1345 01:36:57,561 --> 01:36:58,895 It doesn't feel real yet. 1346 01:36:58,979 --> 01:37:01,564 Maybe when I start traveling full-time and all that. 1347 01:37:04,235 --> 01:37:07,195 This is one of the most important moments in my life, 1348 01:37:07,279 --> 01:37:10,740 coming to New York and experiencing the big city. 1349 01:37:10,825 --> 01:37:12,575 It's really crazy to be here in New York. 1350 01:37:18,999 --> 01:37:26,798 I think life is always teaching us new lessons of appreciation and what we are meant to do 1351 01:37:26,882 --> 01:37:29,259 on this planet to appreciate just what you've been through 1352 01:37:29,343 --> 01:37:32,178 and to know that you can go anywhere. 1353 01:37:42,189 --> 01:37:44,315 Superstar. 1354 01:38:17,558 --> 01:38:22,061 This morning women's clothing company, Lane Bryant is chiming in on the conversation 1355 01:38:22,146 --> 01:38:24,564 about beauty and body image with a new marketing campaign. 1356 01:38:24,648 --> 01:38:28,985 Lane Bryant introducing a new body loving campaign called I'm No Angel. 1357 01:38:29,069 --> 01:38:30,528 imnoangel. 1358 01:38:30,613 --> 01:38:32,238 -an] I'm No Angel. -I'm No Angel. 1359 01:38:32,323 --> 01:38:33,323 I'm No Angel. 1360 01:38:33,407 --> 01:38:35,992 It features plus sized models and says the campaign 1361 01:38:36,076 --> 01:38:39,537 is designed to teach women to love every part of themselves. 1362 01:38:40,998 --> 01:38:44,834 reporter]The models who appear n this new commercial believe it more closely reflects 1363 01:38:44,919 --> 01:38:47,503 the average American woman who is a size 14. 1364 01:38:47,588 --> 01:38:50,340 It was like I wanted to scream it from a mountaintop, 1365 01:38:50,424 --> 01:38:52,467 but I couldn't because I couldn't tell anyone, right? 1366 01:38:52,551 --> 01:38:54,594 Like to keep everything under wrap for so long 1367 01:38:54,678 --> 01:38:58,890 and to be a part of the -I'm No Angel- campaign was pretty surreal. 1368 01:38:59,016 --> 01:39:03,561 It was just like a smile on the inside permanently for a couple of months. [chuckles] 1369 01:39:04,647 --> 01:39:08,316 They had a full double-decker bus with our photos on the side. 1370 01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:12,528 The video was playing on the other side. It was wrapped in us. 1371 01:39:12,613 --> 01:39:17,283 I modeled with Victoria Lee, Marquita Pring, Candice Huffine, 1372 01:39:17,368 --> 01:39:20,119 Ashley Graham and Justine Legault. 1373 01:39:20,204 --> 01:39:22,997 So, it was cool meeting them because I'd seen them in magazines 1374 01:39:23,082 --> 01:39:24,874 and seen them before, so. 1375 01:39:24,959 --> 01:39:29,128 I had no idea who I was gonna be modeling with and then all of a sudden after having seen 1376 01:39:29,213 --> 01:39:35,051 so many photos of them and just being like I'm sitting next to you in a photo is, it's a trip. 1377 01:39:35,135 --> 01:39:40,348 It was crazy to, to be there, to be next to them and actually be considered an equal 1378 01:39:40,432 --> 01:39:41,474 because these women are- 1379 01:39:41,558 --> 01:39:43,643 Poof, poof! 1380 01:39:43,727 --> 01:39:49,232 And here's me, trying to climb the ladder, but I'll get there, it's just, I'm new. 1381 01:39:49,316 --> 01:39:54,237 My agents at JAG were, um, I shouldn't say shocked because I think they believe in me, 1382 01:39:54,321 --> 01:39:58,032 but they were surprised, delightfully surprised that you know, 1383 01:39:58,117 --> 01:40:02,453 I'd get in, I'd get on the roster and only be two months in and then book that like that. 1384 01:40:04,081 --> 01:40:08,376 To see how in a year, you know, to think that I'm gonna die and then all of a sudden, 1385 01:40:08,460 --> 01:40:12,296 I'm all better and I'm doing something that people would dream of doing 1386 01:40:12,381 --> 01:40:15,091 forever, I couldn't even imagine. 1387 01:40:15,175 --> 01:40:17,593 You want to meet my girls? One word. 1388 01:40:19,054 --> 01:40:21,472 Sexy. 1389 01:40:21,557 --> 01:40:23,433 I think it's in my eyes. 1390 01:40:23,517 --> 01:40:25,268 It's something that looks like this. 1391 01:40:25,352 --> 01:40:25,977 Beautiful. 1392 01:40:26,061 --> 01:40:27,353 I'm no angel. 1393 01:40:27,438 --> 01:40:29,480 -I'm no angel. -I'm no angel. 1394 01:40:31,233 --> 01:40:34,944 Here I am, on a commercial, going across the States on buses, 1395 01:40:35,029 --> 01:40:38,239 on trains, on subways, on billboards. 1396 01:40:38,323 --> 01:40:43,494 It's nuts, like, I had my fans send in photos from whenever they would see me. 1397 01:40:43,579 --> 01:40:47,957 They'd see me on TV, they'd see me on commercials, Hulu, all over the Internet. 1398 01:40:48,042 --> 01:40:49,125 It was on TMZ. 1399 01:40:49,209 --> 01:40:51,461 It was on Entertainment Tonight. 1400 01:40:51,545 --> 01:40:52,545 It was all over. 1401 01:40:52,629 --> 01:40:54,797 Yeah, it went-- it went viral. 1402 01:40:55,632 --> 01:40:58,092 It was pretty trippy. I'd had people like, -I saw you on this. 1403 01:40:58,177 --> 01:41:01,554 I saw you on this.- You know, and it was great having my fans like so excited for me 1404 01:41:01,638 --> 01:41:04,640 because they'd seen what I'd went through to get to that point. 1405 01:41:05,517 --> 01:41:12,607 Seeing myself in Times Square? It was-- I don't know how to explain it really. 1406 01:41:12,691 --> 01:41:14,692 It was unbelievable. 1407 01:41:14,777 --> 01:41:19,238 I'm really proud of myself and like that I actually was able to make it through everything and, 1408 01:41:19,323 --> 01:41:22,158 and get to that point where I can say like, there I am, 1409 01:41:22,242 --> 01:41:26,120 in front of, you know, thousands and thousands of people. 1410 01:41:27,539 --> 01:41:33,544 Yeah, it was, pretty shocking. 1411 01:41:36,215 --> 01:41:37,799 [man[ There's Elly, there you go. 1412 01:41:38,759 --> 01:41:40,510 Go Elly. 1413 01:41:40,594 --> 01:41:47,391 There it is! It's my ad! New York City! Times Square. 1414 01:41:51,730 --> 01:41:53,356 Pretty awesome. 1415 01:41:53,440 --> 01:41:55,775 Recognize me! Recognize me! 1416 01:41:57,736 --> 01:42:02,198 I had always thought, you know, that'd be amazing, but I always had doubts. 1417 01:42:02,282 --> 01:42:07,286 I mean, how many people can say, like, coming from a town of 50 people 1418 01:42:07,371 --> 01:42:11,040 and working my way up to like, actually living in New York and working as a model 1419 01:42:11,125 --> 01:42:14,335 1420 01:42:14,419 --> 01:42:17,547 it doesn't happen every day and I think this is my opportunity 1421 01:42:17,631 --> 01:42:19,757 to make that kind of dream come true. 134420

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