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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:24,625 --> 00:00:29,830 When I put on a red pantsuit and my husband doesn't notice, 2 00:00:29,896 --> 00:00:32,599 that's bad. 3 00:00:32,666 --> 00:00:36,202 So I watch my calories. That's good. 4 00:00:38,572 --> 00:00:40,106 There's only 2 calories 5 00:00:40,173 --> 00:00:42,543 in a big, bubbly 8‐ounce glass of Fresca. 6 00:00:42,609 --> 00:00:45,679 No sugar. No saccharinates. 7 00:00:45,746 --> 00:00:47,423 It's an honest to goodness... 8 00:00:47,447 --> 00:00:50,450 diet soft drink. 9 00:00:50,517 --> 00:00:51,685 I like Fresca. 10 00:00:53,687 --> 00:00:56,322 The picture from Vietnam today is way better than yesterday. 11 00:00:56,389 --> 00:00:58,324 There are now four areas of... 12 00:00:58,391 --> 00:00:59,702 Good evening. Schlafly residence. 13 00:00:59,726 --> 00:01:02,262 Phyllis speaking. Hello. It's Ann 14 00:01:02,328 --> 00:01:06,166 from Oklahoma City. Ann Patterson? 15 00:01:06,232 --> 00:01:08,635 Oh! Ann, of course. Ann. 16 00:01:08,702 --> 00:01:11,838 Good to hear from you. Did you have a nice Easter? 17 00:01:11,905 --> 00:01:15,642 Oh, miraculous. A true Easter resurrection. 18 00:01:15,709 --> 00:01:18,311 Phyllis, we did it. 19 00:01:18,378 --> 00:01:20,781 We defeated the Equal Rights Amendment 20 00:01:20,847 --> 00:01:22,148 in the Sooner State. 21 00:01:22,215 --> 00:01:23,684 You did that. 22 00:01:23,750 --> 00:01:25,350 Well, they jammed it through the Senate 23 00:01:25,385 --> 00:01:27,053 with just a voice vote, no hearing, 24 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,056 but we were able to keep it from being passed in the House, 25 00:01:30,123 --> 00:01:31,457 and all thanks to that 26 00:01:31,525 --> 00:01:33,527 one little article in your newsletter. 27 00:01:33,594 --> 00:01:35,962 I handed it to every legislator. 28 00:01:36,029 --> 00:01:39,800 Oh, well, that's swell, Ann. I couldn't be more proud. 29 00:01:39,866 --> 00:01:43,504 So now I'm thinking I should call our friends in other states 30 00:01:43,570 --> 00:01:45,506 and encourage them to do the same. 31 00:01:45,572 --> 00:01:46,973 It's a winnable fight. 32 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,342 Yes, well, in Oklahoma. 33 00:01:49,409 --> 00:01:53,479 Can you send me copies of your mailing list? 34 00:01:53,547 --> 00:01:54,881 Roger! 35 00:01:54,948 --> 00:01:57,784 I'm‐‐I'm sorry, Ann. I am gonna have to call you back. 36 00:01:57,851 --> 00:01:59,385 I have children crawling all over me. 37 00:01:59,452 --> 00:02:01,287 Oh, of course. Mm‐hmm. all right. 38 00:02:01,354 --> 00:02:03,557 Good to talk to you. Okay, then‐‐ 39 00:02:07,493 --> 00:02:09,663 It's taken me years to build up my mailing list. 40 00:02:09,730 --> 00:02:11,464 That's my network. 41 00:02:11,532 --> 00:02:13,700 You know, and the fact that Ann doesn't understand that 42 00:02:13,767 --> 00:02:16,770 suggests she doesn't know a whole lot about politics. 43 00:02:16,837 --> 00:02:19,105 Are those Mother's boxes? 44 00:02:19,172 --> 00:02:21,241 Well, they‐‐they go in the guest room. 45 00:02:21,307 --> 00:02:23,710 No, my‐‐my list is valuable. 46 00:02:23,777 --> 00:02:25,612 I thought you said she was moving in here. 47 00:02:25,679 --> 00:02:28,048 No, John might move back after graduation. 48 00:02:28,114 --> 00:02:32,485 No, I'm the one who developed the arguments in my newsletter. 49 00:02:32,553 --> 00:02:34,721 All she did was hand it out. 50 00:02:34,788 --> 00:02:36,523 I'm supposed to let her run with it. 51 00:02:36,590 --> 00:02:37,934 Well, if you're gonna run with it, 52 00:02:37,958 --> 00:02:39,325 you better do it fast 53 00:02:39,392 --> 00:02:40,927 before it's ratified in your home state 54 00:02:40,994 --> 00:02:42,505 and you lose all credibility. 55 00:02:42,529 --> 00:02:47,968 That would be an embarrassment. 56 00:02:48,034 --> 00:02:49,803 I wanted to stay in St. Louis, 57 00:02:49,870 --> 00:02:52,606 and you had to drag me across the Mississippi. 58 00:02:52,673 --> 00:02:54,116 It's a better view of the Mississippi, 59 00:02:54,140 --> 00:02:56,342 and I dragged you? 60 00:02:56,409 --> 00:02:58,545 Well, you saved me. 61 00:03:02,215 --> 00:03:06,352 I am gonna have to stop the ERA being ratified here. 62 00:03:06,419 --> 00:03:09,389 Well, Illinois is not Oklahoma. 63 00:03:09,455 --> 00:03:11,357 No, yeah, yeah, it's a long shot. 64 00:03:11,424 --> 00:03:13,326 It's the home of Adlai Stevenson 65 00:03:13,393 --> 00:03:14,995 and Daley's Chicago machine. 66 00:03:15,061 --> 00:03:18,231 Well, you‐‐you never know. Um, you know, the one thing 67 00:03:18,298 --> 00:03:21,234 I've got going for me is the feminists think it's settled. 68 00:03:21,301 --> 00:03:23,436 They‐‐They're not expecting a fight. 69 00:03:23,504 --> 00:03:25,572 The other thing you've got going for you is, uh, 70 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,843 no one likes feminists, not even liberals. 71 00:03:31,411 --> 00:03:33,580 Oh, that's true. 72 00:03:33,647 --> 00:03:35,616 They're no fun. 73 00:05:10,076 --> 00:05:11,912 Wouldn't you attract 74 00:05:11,978 --> 00:05:14,414 a wider readership if you put Jane Fonda or Lauren Hutton 75 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:15,816 on the very first cover 76 00:05:15,882 --> 00:05:18,719 instead of this octopus lady with face paint? 77 00:05:18,785 --> 00:05:21,755 It is not an octopus lady. It is the Hindu goddess Kali, 78 00:05:21,822 --> 00:05:23,957 and those are tears streaming down her face 79 00:05:24,024 --> 00:05:26,259 because she has to juggle all the demands 80 00:05:26,326 --> 00:05:27,961 of her work and marriage. 81 00:05:28,028 --> 00:05:30,230 If "Ms." is almost exclusively written 82 00:05:30,296 --> 00:05:31,798 by, for, and about women, 83 00:05:31,865 --> 00:05:34,835 isn't it as one‐dimensional as "Playboy"? 84 00:05:34,901 --> 00:05:37,838 Is that a serious question? You don't think that's a drag? 85 00:05:37,904 --> 00:05:39,873 I think "Playboy" is a drag. 86 00:05:39,940 --> 00:05:43,009 Are you worried that the provocative ad on abortion 87 00:05:43,076 --> 00:05:45,646 will alienate women in the middle of America? 88 00:05:45,712 --> 00:05:47,681 A majority of people in this country 89 00:05:47,748 --> 00:05:50,751 support every woman's right to control her own body. 90 00:05:50,817 --> 00:05:54,721 Until we have that right, we can never truly be equal. 91 00:05:54,788 --> 00:05:56,623 Thank you, everyone. Thank you. 92 00:05:56,690 --> 00:05:58,158 Ms. Steinem! Ms. Steinem! 93 00:06:25,952 --> 00:06:28,522 They were itty‐bitty, so I got two. 94 00:06:29,656 --> 00:06:31,592 Look. Oh, Gloria! 95 00:06:31,658 --> 00:06:34,695 I walked past Andy Warhol. He didn't even say hello. 96 00:06:34,761 --> 00:06:38,064 You did represent Valerie Solanas. 97 00:06:38,131 --> 00:06:41,635 Not that well. The girl got three years. 98 00:06:41,702 --> 00:06:43,582 What did that taxi driver in Boston say to us... 99 00:06:43,637 --> 00:06:46,406 Ms. Steinem... about if men got pregnant? 100 00:06:46,472 --> 00:06:49,209 Uh... "If men could get pregnant, 101 00:06:49,275 --> 00:06:52,178 abortion would be a sacrament." Oh! I couldn't remember it. 102 00:06:52,245 --> 00:06:56,550 You should put a pregnant Nixon on your next cover. 103 00:06:56,617 --> 00:06:59,185 I'm putting Shirley on my next cover. 104 00:06:59,252 --> 00:07:00,921 I will drink to that. 105 00:07:03,189 --> 00:07:05,391 Ms. Steinem, can I ask you one last question, 106 00:07:05,458 --> 00:07:06,927 if you don't mind? 107 00:07:06,993 --> 00:07:09,329 Uh, Betty Friedan, in a speech yesterday said, 108 00:07:09,395 --> 00:07:10,764 "Gloria has never been part 109 00:07:10,831 --> 00:07:12,666 "of the organized women's liberation movement. 110 00:07:12,733 --> 00:07:14,635 "The media tried to make her a celebrity, 111 00:07:14,701 --> 00:07:17,003 but no one should mistake her for a leader." 112 00:07:17,070 --> 00:07:18,772 Any comment? 113 00:07:21,074 --> 00:07:23,114 If I have a lot of problems with my being a leader 114 00:07:23,143 --> 00:07:26,246 in the women's movement, I'm sure she has a lot more. 115 00:07:43,664 --> 00:07:46,166 Great party, Gloria. 116 00:07:48,869 --> 00:07:51,104 We can't get distracted by her. 117 00:07:51,171 --> 00:07:53,473 We got a lot of momentum going into the conventions. 118 00:07:53,540 --> 00:07:56,743 The candidates recognize that we're a real political force. 119 00:07:56,810 --> 00:08:00,113 Even McGovern's agreed to sit down with us. 120 00:08:00,180 --> 00:08:02,849 But we need a face‐‐ a pretty face. 121 00:08:02,916 --> 00:08:05,485 Is that my only value to the movement? 122 00:08:05,552 --> 00:08:07,554 No, we need your tits and ass, too. 123 00:08:07,621 --> 00:08:10,123 I don't want people listening to me 124 00:08:10,190 --> 00:08:11,625 just because I have a pretty face. 125 00:08:11,692 --> 00:08:13,359 I would love it if people listened to me 126 00:08:13,426 --> 00:08:15,896 because I have a pretty face. Then I wouldn't have to shout. 127 00:08:15,962 --> 00:08:18,965 Who cares why they're listening? They're listening. 128 00:08:19,032 --> 00:08:21,602 You think Kennedy agonized over whether he beat Nixon 129 00:08:21,668 --> 00:08:23,837 because of his looks? No, he thought, 130 00:08:23,904 --> 00:08:25,539 "I can't believe I get to be president 131 00:08:25,606 --> 00:08:27,073 and shtup Marilyn Monroe." 132 00:08:27,140 --> 00:08:28,975 Can I get a photo with you? Excuse me. 133 00:08:29,042 --> 00:08:30,476 We're having a private conversation. 134 00:08:34,648 --> 00:08:37,083 That was one of our biggest advertisers. 135 00:08:37,150 --> 00:08:39,886 You wanna make abortion legal, this is how you do it. 136 00:08:39,953 --> 00:08:43,156 Play the game. Hold McGovern's feet to the fire. 137 00:08:43,223 --> 00:08:45,225 Is he waffling? 138 00:08:45,291 --> 00:08:48,194 He told me he believes it's every woman's personal decision. 139 00:08:48,261 --> 00:08:49,972 Well, now he believes he's the front runner 140 00:08:49,996 --> 00:08:52,332 and needs to move to the center to beat Nixon 141 00:08:52,398 --> 00:08:53,934 in the general election. 142 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,804 And you wonder why I can't stand politics? 143 00:08:57,871 --> 00:09:01,875 Can I get back to my party now? Go. 144 00:09:05,345 --> 00:09:07,247 How you doing? All right. 145 00:09:15,622 --> 00:09:18,158 Can you stay over tonight? 146 00:09:18,224 --> 00:09:20,694 Yeah, but I have to leave early. 147 00:09:20,761 --> 00:09:22,262 Got the kids in the morning. 148 00:09:57,898 --> 00:10:01,267 You came. I even had time to bake. 149 00:10:02,235 --> 00:10:04,938 Well, actually, it's leftover from Easter. 150 00:10:05,739 --> 00:10:09,075 I won't tell if you won't tell. 151 00:10:10,677 --> 00:10:12,312 For today's study section, 152 00:10:12,378 --> 00:10:17,984 I chose Father Collins' talk from our annual conference. 153 00:10:18,051 --> 00:10:20,120 It's about the Marxist revolutionaries 154 00:10:20,186 --> 00:10:22,322 who instigated the Attica prison uprising. 155 00:10:22,388 --> 00:10:25,892 These riots are all a part of the New Left campaign 156 00:10:25,959 --> 00:10:27,861 to undermine American prisons. 157 00:10:27,928 --> 00:10:29,563 The world's going to hell in a handbag. 158 00:10:29,630 --> 00:10:34,868 You know, I read, uh, recently, that Angela Davis declared 159 00:10:34,935 --> 00:10:36,870 that if she were free, 160 00:10:36,937 --> 00:10:40,106 her first goal would be to abolish America's prison system. 161 00:10:40,173 --> 00:10:41,908 For those of you who aren't familiar... 162 00:10:41,975 --> 00:10:43,677 Mm‐hmm. Angela Davis is 163 00:10:43,744 --> 00:10:45,145 the Black Panther militant 164 00:10:45,211 --> 00:10:47,614 on trial for murder in California. 165 00:10:47,681 --> 00:10:50,951 Yeah, so even though she has admitted to being a member 166 00:10:51,017 --> 00:10:53,119 of the Communist Party, there are members of Congress 167 00:10:53,186 --> 00:10:57,257 who publicly support her, like Shirley Chisholm. 168 00:10:57,323 --> 00:10:58,792 And, uh, Gloria Steinem 169 00:10:58,859 --> 00:11:00,827 is listed as the treasurer of her defense fund. 170 00:11:00,894 --> 00:11:02,705 They're all connected, and they have so much money 171 00:11:02,729 --> 00:11:04,264 and political power. 172 00:11:04,330 --> 00:11:06,633 And maybe we'll devote next month's study session 173 00:11:06,700 --> 00:11:07,977 to the women's liberation movement. 174 00:11:08,001 --> 00:11:09,970 Could we devote this session to it? 175 00:11:10,036 --> 00:11:11,705 Prisons are depressing. 176 00:11:11,772 --> 00:11:14,074 I thought your newsletter on the dangers 177 00:11:14,140 --> 00:11:16,643 of the Equal Rights Amendment was fantastic. 178 00:11:16,710 --> 00:11:18,679 I immediately called both our senators, 179 00:11:18,745 --> 00:11:20,847 but it made it through Congress anyway. 180 00:11:20,914 --> 00:11:23,083 I did, too. I fear we got started too late. 181 00:11:23,149 --> 00:11:24,885 Oh, it's not too late to stop it. 182 00:11:24,951 --> 00:11:28,555 If the ERA is not ratified by 38 states 183 00:11:28,622 --> 00:11:31,958 by March 22, 1979, it will die. 184 00:11:32,025 --> 00:11:33,660 That seems like enough time. 185 00:11:33,727 --> 00:11:35,167 Well, we can't let it get ratified. 186 00:11:35,228 --> 00:11:37,097 Well, we do have our work cut out for us. 187 00:11:37,163 --> 00:11:39,833 See, the women's liberation movement has convinced everybody 188 00:11:39,900 --> 00:11:41,234 it's a bipartisan issue. 189 00:11:41,301 --> 00:11:43,504 So we need to get the word out fast 190 00:11:43,570 --> 00:11:45,839 that it is controversial and that we homemakers 191 00:11:45,906 --> 00:11:47,373 are not being represented. 192 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:48,975 You know, we need to make some noise 193 00:11:49,042 --> 00:11:51,311 and get the media to pay attention to us. 194 00:11:51,377 --> 00:11:54,480 The person that everybody's paying attention to always wins. 195 00:11:54,548 --> 00:11:56,917 That would be Gloria Steinem. She's famous. 196 00:11:56,983 --> 00:11:58,752 They're all famous. We're nobodies. 197 00:11:58,819 --> 00:12:00,286 Even if we could get a news program 198 00:12:00,353 --> 00:12:01,622 to give us some air time, 199 00:12:01,688 --> 00:12:03,256 who would we send on as our guest? 200 00:12:03,323 --> 00:12:05,267 Phyllis is famous. Only in conservative circles. 201 00:12:05,291 --> 00:12:06,927 No offense. Oh, none taken. 202 00:12:06,993 --> 00:12:08,370 You're judged by the company you keep. 203 00:12:08,394 --> 00:12:10,330 Maybe you should be the spokesman, Alice, 204 00:12:10,396 --> 00:12:11,998 since you're a full‐time homemaker. 205 00:12:12,065 --> 00:12:15,201 Oh. No. I'm happy to do it. 206 00:12:15,268 --> 00:12:17,003 Mm‐hmm. 207 00:12:17,070 --> 00:12:20,340 The thing about public speaking 208 00:12:20,406 --> 00:12:22,809 is that it's harder than it looks. 209 00:12:22,876 --> 00:12:25,445 There are some tricks to make it look easy. 210 00:12:25,512 --> 00:12:28,481 I agree. Phyllis has the most experience. She should do it. 211 00:12:28,549 --> 00:12:31,952 Well, all right. Well, I will, uh, send you all the phone tree 212 00:12:32,018 --> 00:12:33,663 to kickstart a telegram and letter writing campaign 213 00:12:33,687 --> 00:12:36,723 to our representatives. I mean, you know the drill. 214 00:12:36,790 --> 00:12:40,627 All: Telephone and tell a friend. 215 00:12:40,694 --> 00:12:43,463 It will be very much like the brilliant campaign 216 00:12:43,530 --> 00:12:47,233 that Eleanor led against "Hair" a couple of months ago. 217 00:12:47,300 --> 00:12:50,036 That was a battle. Mm. 218 00:12:50,103 --> 00:12:52,105 You know, and I think the trouble was 219 00:12:52,172 --> 00:12:54,575 that there are two very catchy songs in the show. 220 00:12:54,641 --> 00:12:56,610 So people would hear the music for "Aquarius" 221 00:12:56,677 --> 00:12:58,044 and "Let the Sunshine In," 222 00:12:58,111 --> 00:12:59,713 they think it was just like "Oklahoma!" 223 00:13:04,851 --> 00:13:06,386 It's Phyllis Schlafly. 224 00:13:06,452 --> 00:13:07,830 Yeah I'm calling about... I'm calling about 225 00:13:07,854 --> 00:13:09,255 the upcoming vote in Springfield 226 00:13:09,322 --> 00:13:10,600 on the ratification... the ratification 227 00:13:10,624 --> 00:13:11,992 of the Equal Rights Amendment. 228 00:13:12,058 --> 00:13:14,060 Yes, we're organizing a campaign to write letters. 229 00:13:14,127 --> 00:13:16,563 Hi, Joan. It's Pamela. We are organizing 230 00:13:16,630 --> 00:13:19,265 a letter writing campaign... And we are calling 231 00:13:19,332 --> 00:13:20,777 and writing letters to our legislators... 232 00:13:20,801 --> 00:13:22,368 We're organizing a campaign 233 00:13:22,435 --> 00:13:25,238 to urge them to vote "no," and we could use your help. 234 00:13:25,305 --> 00:13:27,741 Hi, Patricia. It's Pamela. Melody? 235 00:13:27,808 --> 00:13:30,210 Barbara. Sharon? 236 00:13:30,276 --> 00:13:32,546 When are we supposed to make all these calls? 237 00:13:32,613 --> 00:13:34,290 Can you put your kids to bed a half‐hour early? 238 00:13:34,314 --> 00:13:36,149 Or better yet, put your husband to bed 239 00:13:36,216 --> 00:13:37,684 a half‐hour early. 240 00:13:37,751 --> 00:13:41,588 I knock off a few letters after everyone's asleep. 241 00:13:47,293 --> 00:13:50,831 How are we doing? Hmm. Yes. I understand. 242 00:13:50,897 --> 00:13:52,198 You've heard it? 243 00:13:52,265 --> 00:13:54,200 I've been holding for some time now. 244 00:13:54,267 --> 00:13:56,412 Well, you tell Dick Cavett that the media has a responsibility 245 00:13:56,436 --> 00:13:59,439 to present the other side. It's a rule. It's called the... 246 00:13:59,506 --> 00:14:02,242 Fairness doctrine. The fairness doctrine. 247 00:14:02,308 --> 00:14:04,778 Mom? No running, please! 248 00:14:04,845 --> 00:14:06,155 I need help with my math homework. 249 00:14:06,179 --> 00:14:09,315 I'll help him. Drill his times tables! 250 00:14:09,382 --> 00:14:12,385 Who wants more coffee? Oh, I shouldn't, but... 251 00:14:12,452 --> 00:14:14,320 Thank you, Leonia. 252 00:14:14,387 --> 00:14:17,958 I'm going to the post office. Give me your letters. 253 00:14:19,325 --> 00:14:21,161 Last call for the post office. 254 00:14:23,764 --> 00:14:24,865 How many have we got? 255 00:14:24,931 --> 00:14:29,202 Yes. We will be in touch. 256 00:14:29,269 --> 00:14:31,838 We got invited on "The Phil Donahue Show." 257 00:14:31,905 --> 00:14:33,339 Aah! We got... 258 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,683 Oh, that is so good! 259 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,823 This is it. Are you nervous? 260 00:14:49,890 --> 00:14:52,358 Can I push the button on the elevator? 261 00:14:52,425 --> 00:14:55,529 Mm‐hmm. Come on. 262 00:15:00,166 --> 00:15:02,903 We're all just kind of piled in here. 263 00:15:02,969 --> 00:15:04,805 Can we find Margaret an empty desk? 264 00:15:04,871 --> 00:15:07,473 Will a delivery box do? 265 00:15:07,541 --> 00:15:10,176 We're, uh, we're gonna get some more furniture soon. 266 00:15:10,243 --> 00:15:11,878 Come through. 267 00:15:11,945 --> 00:15:14,648 "Ms. Magazine." No, M‐s, "Mizz." 268 00:15:14,715 --> 00:15:17,951 This is our tot lot, but we're cool with the kids, 269 00:15:18,018 --> 00:15:19,485 you know, running around. 270 00:15:21,955 --> 00:15:25,058 Would you like to play here while Mommy gets to work? 271 00:15:25,125 --> 00:15:27,728 Oh, come on. You'll have fun. 272 00:15:29,195 --> 00:15:31,932 Gloria, we‐‐we can't run with this cover. 273 00:15:31,998 --> 00:15:33,333 He asked me to show it to him. 274 00:15:33,399 --> 00:15:35,079 I'm already giving you a lesbian article. 275 00:15:35,135 --> 00:15:36,445 Oh, you're giving it to me? Thank you. 276 00:15:36,469 --> 00:15:38,004 We put Shirley Chisholm on the cover, 277 00:15:38,071 --> 00:15:39,682 and we'll depress sales, especially in the South. 278 00:15:39,706 --> 00:15:41,975 Well, we don't put her on the cover, it'll depress me. 279 00:15:42,042 --> 00:15:43,352 You wanna piss off your distribution company 280 00:15:43,376 --> 00:15:45,278 and sales team? They work for us. 281 00:15:45,345 --> 00:15:46,647 This issue hits the newsstands 282 00:15:46,713 --> 00:15:48,233 right before the Democratic Convention. 283 00:15:48,281 --> 00:15:49,583 I wanna put Shirley on our cover. 284 00:15:49,650 --> 00:15:51,317 What about Mary's idea for the cover‐‐ 285 00:15:51,384 --> 00:15:52,695 Wonder Woman? She's a strong symbol of woman's power. 286 00:15:52,719 --> 00:15:54,988 Wonder Woman's my idol, 287 00:15:55,055 --> 00:15:56,332 but you know she's not a real person. 288 00:15:56,356 --> 00:15:57,691 She's better than a real person. 289 00:15:57,758 --> 00:16:00,126 She's a superhero, and she's got great legs. 290 00:16:00,193 --> 00:16:01,838 We're going with this cover. Oh, I see. 291 00:16:01,862 --> 00:16:04,430 You wanna be the only one around here with great legs. 292 00:16:08,468 --> 00:16:10,203 I gave Gloria her first bylined assignment 293 00:16:10,270 --> 00:16:11,681 because I saw her standing outside my office one day, 294 00:16:11,705 --> 00:16:14,908 and I thought she had great legs. 295 00:16:14,975 --> 00:16:18,545 Clay. What? It's a great story. 296 00:16:18,612 --> 00:16:21,815 It's a great story. 297 00:16:23,449 --> 00:16:28,589 He's the money guy. Come through here. 298 00:16:30,757 --> 00:16:33,960 Yes, Mrs. Schlafly, I did get your mail. 299 00:16:34,027 --> 00:16:36,763 Oh, good. Now do you have a television in your office? 300 00:16:36,830 --> 00:16:39,132 Of course I have a television in my office. 301 00:16:39,199 --> 00:16:41,935 Well, turn it on at 12:00 to channel 5. 302 00:16:42,002 --> 00:16:43,469 What am I watching? 303 00:16:43,537 --> 00:16:46,406 The other side of the ERA debate. 304 00:16:49,943 --> 00:16:52,746 Can we get a TV in here? 305 00:16:52,813 --> 00:16:54,515 Would you please welcome to the show 306 00:16:54,581 --> 00:16:59,085 conservative author and activist Mrs. Phyllis Schlafly? 307 00:17:18,438 --> 00:17:20,040 Now the Equal Rights Amendment 308 00:17:20,106 --> 00:17:22,943 will positively make women subject to the draft 309 00:17:23,009 --> 00:17:25,879 on an equal basis with the men. 310 00:17:25,946 --> 00:17:28,414 They have got to the point where they truly believe 311 00:17:28,481 --> 00:17:30,183 that men and women are the same, 312 00:17:30,250 --> 00:17:32,719 so it's not enough for them to have the right to work. 313 00:17:32,786 --> 00:17:35,121 They want to legislate away any differences 314 00:17:35,188 --> 00:17:36,823 between men and women, which will mean 315 00:17:36,890 --> 00:17:39,826 goodbye, Girl Scouts, and hello, unisex bathrooms. 316 00:17:39,893 --> 00:17:41,638 The ERA doesn't say that men and women are the same. 317 00:17:41,662 --> 00:17:43,139 It says that they're entitled to equal protection 318 00:17:43,163 --> 00:17:45,098 under the law. 319 00:17:45,165 --> 00:17:47,033 What, did you drag her out of the dust bins 320 00:17:47,100 --> 00:17:49,045 of the Goldwater campaign so you could hide under her skirt? 321 00:17:49,069 --> 00:17:50,704 She found me. 322 00:17:50,771 --> 00:17:52,181 You promised that you weren't gonna fight us on this. 323 00:17:52,205 --> 00:17:54,140 I changed my mind. 324 00:17:54,207 --> 00:17:55,607 But we had enough votes to ratify. 325 00:17:55,642 --> 00:17:57,744 I want a public hearing before the vote. 326 00:17:57,811 --> 00:18:00,747 So suddenly you don't mind looking like you hate women. 327 00:18:00,814 --> 00:18:03,416 I don't hate women. I love women, 328 00:18:03,483 --> 00:18:07,220 which is why I wanna protect my female constituents 329 00:18:07,287 --> 00:18:08,722 from the dangers of the ERA. 330 00:18:08,789 --> 00:18:10,791 And you tell me that's liberation? 331 00:18:10,857 --> 00:18:13,827 Why, that isn't liberation. Liberation's in the home. 332 00:18:20,634 --> 00:18:22,244 When I heard former Goldwater supporter, 333 00:18:22,268 --> 00:18:25,772 I thought, "what a bore," but she's a dynamo. 334 00:18:25,839 --> 00:18:27,874 Not bad‐lookin'. It was a good show. 335 00:18:27,941 --> 00:18:29,776 You know what'd make for a better show? 336 00:18:29,843 --> 00:18:31,588 Have her on with Gloria Steinem or Betty Freidan. 337 00:18:31,612 --> 00:18:33,313 Oh, yeah, I don't think so. 338 00:18:33,379 --> 00:18:36,282 No, no, you get 'em together debating, the catfights? 339 00:18:36,349 --> 00:18:39,452 It's ratings gold. 340 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,788 You were terrific. Oh, thank you, Phil. 341 00:18:44,591 --> 00:18:47,628 I'm just a talk show host, so what do I know? 342 00:18:47,694 --> 00:18:49,996 But, uh, some of the arguments you made, 343 00:18:50,063 --> 00:18:51,974 I'm just wondering if you had a chance before you came on 344 00:18:51,998 --> 00:18:55,135 to fact‐check? Yes. 345 00:18:55,201 --> 00:18:57,604 So, for example, the elimination 346 00:18:57,671 --> 00:18:59,840 of separate restrooms... Mm‐hmm. 347 00:18:59,906 --> 00:19:03,944 That seems highly unlikely to happen if the ERA is adopted. 348 00:19:04,010 --> 00:19:05,812 Phil, let me ask you this. 349 00:19:05,879 --> 00:19:08,549 When Lenin started the revolution in 1917, 350 00:19:08,615 --> 00:19:10,951 do you think he told the people, "Fight with us, 351 00:19:11,017 --> 00:19:12,452 "and we'll give you 352 00:19:12,519 --> 00:19:14,621 food shortages, censorship, and terror"? 353 00:19:14,688 --> 00:19:18,759 Oh, no. He promised them peace, land, and bread. 354 00:19:18,825 --> 00:19:21,494 Now it starts with a simple piece of legislation 355 00:19:21,562 --> 00:19:24,631 like the ERA, and then the left feels emboldened 356 00:19:24,698 --> 00:19:26,733 to eliminate alimony, child support, 357 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,903 and the widow's Social Security, and before you know it, 358 00:19:29,970 --> 00:19:35,208 we are living in a feminist totalitarian nightmare. 359 00:19:35,275 --> 00:19:38,278 Thank you for having me on your show. 360 00:19:47,420 --> 00:19:49,222 You're Gloria Steinem. 361 00:19:49,289 --> 00:19:51,658 Yes. 362 00:19:51,725 --> 00:19:53,760 Lisa. How are you this morning? 363 00:19:53,827 --> 00:19:57,297 I'm... I'm wonderful. Oh, I'm gonna move you to first. 364 00:19:57,363 --> 00:19:58,932 Oh, no. It's not necessary. I‐‐ 365 00:19:58,999 --> 00:20:01,234 I insist. You will be more comfortable. 366 00:20:01,301 --> 00:20:02,903 Well, okay. Thank you. 367 00:20:02,969 --> 00:20:05,839 And I figure you and Ms. Freidan wanna sit together. 368 00:20:08,809 --> 00:20:11,377 Hello, Betty. 369 00:20:13,947 --> 00:20:15,916 Thank you. 370 00:20:17,651 --> 00:20:18,685 Ow. 371 00:20:18,752 --> 00:20:24,224 Sorry. I'm so sorry. 372 00:20:32,098 --> 00:20:34,400 I was misquoted. 373 00:20:37,738 --> 00:20:39,740 People are always trying to divide up women. 374 00:20:39,806 --> 00:20:43,977 Hmm? It's just another way to take away our power. 375 00:20:44,044 --> 00:20:46,847 Well, I'm sorry the reporter upset you. 376 00:20:48,582 --> 00:20:50,751 I also happened to say some very nice things about you 377 00:20:50,817 --> 00:20:52,786 that maybe didn't get printed. I said that, uh, 378 00:20:52,853 --> 00:20:56,289 you're a good role model because you've never married, 379 00:20:56,356 --> 00:20:59,593 which shows you can be single and still have a good life. 380 00:21:02,128 --> 00:21:04,998 They didn't print that. 381 00:21:38,064 --> 00:21:40,000 Food supplies hurtled from the sky, 382 00:21:40,066 --> 00:21:44,505 and everyone scrambles to grab whatever food he can. 383 00:21:44,571 --> 00:21:46,773 There are still wounded from the fighting‐‐ 384 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,743 men who wait every day in vain for helicopters 385 00:21:49,810 --> 00:21:51,578 to take them to hospitals. 386 00:21:51,645 --> 00:21:53,814 The dead will remain in An Loc. 387 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,449 You don't know how serious women are 388 00:21:56,517 --> 00:21:58,051 in this country, Senator. 389 00:21:58,118 --> 00:22:01,087 I couldn't be less enthusiastic about your candidacy. 390 00:22:01,154 --> 00:22:04,024 Senator McGovern has been very vocal on women's issues. 391 00:22:04,090 --> 00:22:06,827 I fully support speedy ratification of the ERA. 392 00:22:06,893 --> 00:22:09,696 Everyone does. Nixon supports the ERA, 393 00:22:09,763 --> 00:22:12,533 and you have to have more women visible in your campaign 394 00:22:12,599 --> 00:22:15,569 because right now they're just not there. 395 00:22:15,636 --> 00:22:17,237 Shirley MacLaine notwithstanding. 396 00:22:17,303 --> 00:22:20,473 I think what Betty means is that women aren't... 397 00:22:20,541 --> 00:22:22,175 always listened to, 398 00:22:22,242 --> 00:22:24,511 something you and I talked about after New Hampshire, 399 00:22:24,578 --> 00:22:26,122 and you were going to impress upon your staff 400 00:22:26,146 --> 00:22:28,815 the importance of taking female campaign aides seriously. 401 00:22:28,882 --> 00:22:31,451 Thank you, Gloria, and I have spoken with them. 402 00:22:31,518 --> 00:22:33,029 I think it's fair to say the only place 403 00:22:33,053 --> 00:22:35,155 we really differ with you is on abortion rights. 404 00:22:35,221 --> 00:22:38,024 And you've been saying some ridiculous things lately. 405 00:22:38,091 --> 00:22:40,069 I'm afraid that's all the time that we have for today, 406 00:22:40,093 --> 00:22:41,895 but thank you, ladies, so much for coming in. 407 00:22:41,962 --> 00:22:44,330 Yes, thank you all very much. Oh, no, Senator? 408 00:22:44,397 --> 00:22:47,400 The Senator has another meeting. 409 00:22:47,467 --> 00:22:49,870 George, George, if‐if I may. 410 00:22:49,936 --> 00:22:52,739 We can push and push for legalizing abortion, 411 00:22:52,806 --> 00:22:54,617 but until it becomes part of our party's platform, 412 00:22:54,641 --> 00:22:57,010 Congress will never feel pressure to change the laws. 413 00:22:57,077 --> 00:22:58,555 If George even mentions the word "abortion" 414 00:22:58,579 --> 00:23:00,113 at the convention, 415 00:23:00,180 --> 00:23:02,549 Nixon will hang it around his neck like a millstone. 416 00:23:02,616 --> 00:23:03,693 So what if we use a more general term, 417 00:23:03,717 --> 00:23:05,619 like "reproductive freedom"? 418 00:23:05,686 --> 00:23:07,363 It's broad enough to include not just abortion 419 00:23:07,387 --> 00:23:11,892 but repeal birth control laws, laws on sexual orientation, 420 00:23:11,958 --> 00:23:14,628 forced sterilization. That's interesting. 421 00:23:14,695 --> 00:23:16,563 What I like about that, Senator, 422 00:23:16,630 --> 00:23:20,033 is that it covers concerns of men as well as women. 423 00:23:20,100 --> 00:23:21,935 I wrote a version you could use. 424 00:23:22,002 --> 00:23:23,970 Can I see that? 425 00:23:28,208 --> 00:23:30,811 You got into this race to get us out of the war. 426 00:23:30,877 --> 00:23:35,682 This is our Vietnam. 427 00:23:35,749 --> 00:23:37,851 Let me get back to you. 428 00:23:37,918 --> 00:23:39,461 You can reach me at my hotel anytime tonight. 429 00:23:39,485 --> 00:23:43,156 I'll wait for your call. Thank you, George. 430 00:23:55,502 --> 00:23:57,871 He's not gonna call. 431 00:23:59,873 --> 00:24:00,873 He's going to call. 432 00:24:05,178 --> 00:24:09,049 Oh, my God. Gloria Steinem is tap dancing. 433 00:24:09,115 --> 00:24:10,917 It was how I earned money when I was a kid‐‐ 434 00:24:10,984 --> 00:24:13,554 performed at clubs and supermarket openings. 435 00:24:13,620 --> 00:24:16,590 I was going to dance my way out of Toledo. 436 00:24:18,424 --> 00:24:20,694 That was my great dream. 437 00:24:31,672 --> 00:24:33,807 Yes, this is Gloria. 438 00:24:38,812 --> 00:24:41,915 I‐I can't talk right now. I'm, uh... 439 00:24:41,982 --> 00:24:45,085 I have to keep the line free. 440 00:24:47,253 --> 00:24:51,357 I'm trapped. I'm waiting for a call. 441 00:24:52,726 --> 00:24:55,161 What are you up to tonight? 442 00:24:55,228 --> 00:24:57,631 Let's all go get a drink, yeah? 443 00:24:57,698 --> 00:24:59,666 Come on. Everyone out. 444 00:25:18,484 --> 00:25:20,253 You really can't leave this room? 445 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,690 Well, now I don't wanna leave. 446 00:25:32,332 --> 00:25:33,667 How long do we have? 447 00:25:33,734 --> 00:25:35,636 Two hours before the last train. 448 00:25:35,702 --> 00:25:38,271 Okay, but if McGovern calls... I know. 449 00:25:38,338 --> 00:25:42,142 You won't be mad? Nah. I won't be mad. 450 00:25:53,219 --> 00:25:54,821 So are you gonna start 451 00:25:54,888 --> 00:25:56,165 with women in the draft or the institution of marriage 452 00:25:56,189 --> 00:25:57,824 being eroded? I haven't decided yet. 453 00:25:57,891 --> 00:25:59,459 You said you prepared last night. 454 00:25:59,526 --> 00:26:03,930 I did prepare. You know what we should do afterwards? 455 00:26:03,997 --> 00:26:06,432 We should stop by the Den for a bowl of chili. 456 00:26:06,499 --> 00:26:09,002 Mm‐hmm. Yeah, if there's time. 457 00:26:09,069 --> 00:26:10,537 Well, I‐I would lead with the draft 458 00:26:10,604 --> 00:26:11,881 because I think it's more emotional. 459 00:26:11,905 --> 00:26:13,473 Do you wanna testify instead of me? 460 00:26:13,540 --> 00:26:16,342 Oh, I'm‐‐I'm not the expert in constitutional law. 461 00:26:16,409 --> 00:26:18,779 I'm not the expert in constitutional law. 462 00:26:18,845 --> 00:26:20,881 Yes, but you studied it in law school. 463 00:26:20,947 --> 00:26:22,783 Now, the libbers are sending in attorneys, 464 00:26:22,849 --> 00:26:24,685 and I think that we should have 465 00:26:24,751 --> 00:26:27,087 a handsome, brilliant one on our side. 466 00:26:27,153 --> 00:26:28,955 I had to reschedule a very important meeting 467 00:26:29,022 --> 00:26:30,323 because of this. I know. 468 00:26:30,390 --> 00:26:34,160 I'm so grateful you did. You're my secret weapon. 469 00:26:34,227 --> 00:26:41,401 ERA now! ERA now! ERA now! ERA now! ERA now! 470 00:26:41,467 --> 00:26:45,606 Our women do not consider themselves enslaved by marriage, 471 00:26:45,672 --> 00:26:47,508 and they do not wish to be liberated 472 00:26:47,574 --> 00:26:50,043 from home and motherhood, 473 00:26:50,110 --> 00:26:51,878 and they certainly do not want to sacrifice 474 00:26:51,945 --> 00:26:53,914 any of their present privileges 475 00:26:53,980 --> 00:26:58,051 for some phony equality with men. 476 00:26:58,118 --> 00:27:01,788 One side effect of the Equal Rights Amendment 477 00:27:01,855 --> 00:27:03,323 would be that women... 478 00:27:03,389 --> 00:27:04,967 Where is the rest of your group? 479 00:27:04,991 --> 00:27:06,727 The Common Law right to be supported... 480 00:27:06,793 --> 00:27:08,862 They're at home. By their husbands. 481 00:27:08,929 --> 00:27:10,263 Do you see those two ladies? 482 00:27:10,330 --> 00:27:13,199 They're the sponsors of the measure. 483 00:27:13,266 --> 00:27:16,436 They've been bringing in hundreds of women here every day 484 00:27:16,503 --> 00:27:19,740 for the past month to lobby us. They're winning. 485 00:27:19,806 --> 00:27:22,743 Oh. Well, it's a numbers game. 486 00:27:22,809 --> 00:27:24,545 Count the letters and phone calls. 487 00:27:24,611 --> 00:27:26,813 Not when it's this emotional. 488 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,825 Oh. We're not about to throw ourselves 489 00:27:28,849 --> 00:27:30,951 on the House floor. 490 00:27:31,017 --> 00:27:33,687 We're protesting with dignity. 491 00:27:33,754 --> 00:27:36,389 When my guys look out into the gallery, 492 00:27:36,456 --> 00:27:38,568 which side do you think they're gonna feel pressure from‐‐ 493 00:27:38,592 --> 00:27:46,592 the hundreds of ladies screaming for the ERA or dignity? 494 00:27:47,267 --> 00:27:52,372 Thus childcare centers could... 495 00:28:01,314 --> 00:28:03,349 I don't even know where Springfield is. 496 00:28:03,416 --> 00:28:06,419 I've rented buses. You could bring your children with you. 497 00:28:06,486 --> 00:28:09,255 They'll be educational. 498 00:28:10,791 --> 00:28:13,493 Look, the real power lies in who shows up. 499 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,096 It's a numbers game, so unless we outnumber them, 500 00:28:16,162 --> 00:28:18,362 the ERA will be ratified right here in our own backyard. 501 00:28:18,398 --> 00:28:20,901 Even if we could get a big group to show up tomorrow, 502 00:28:20,967 --> 00:28:23,504 we'd be too intimidated to talk to legislators. 503 00:28:23,570 --> 00:28:25,906 Well, Fred, m‐maybe you could, uh, come up 504 00:28:25,972 --> 00:28:27,541 with a few easy talking points. 505 00:28:27,608 --> 00:28:29,142 Huh? For what? 506 00:28:29,209 --> 00:28:32,078 For the rally before the floor vote in the House. 507 00:28:32,145 --> 00:28:33,723 I'm sorry. I‐I didn't hear what you said. 508 00:28:33,747 --> 00:28:34,981 I focused on that bread. 509 00:28:35,048 --> 00:28:37,651 It needs five minutes to cool. 510 00:28:37,718 --> 00:28:38,961 That does smell so good, Willie. 511 00:28:38,985 --> 00:28:41,922 I'll write the recipe down for you. 512 00:28:41,988 --> 00:28:43,199 Every time I try to bake bread, 513 00:28:43,223 --> 00:28:45,926 it turns out soggy. Mm‐hmm. 514 00:28:45,992 --> 00:28:47,369 You might not be giving it enough time to rise. 515 00:28:47,393 --> 00:28:49,663 Yeah. You're overworking the dough. 516 00:28:49,730 --> 00:28:51,998 Mm. Or your oven isn't hot enough. 517 00:28:52,065 --> 00:28:53,366 You can't put it in too soon. 518 00:28:53,433 --> 00:28:55,001 Maybe you're using too little yeast. 519 00:28:55,068 --> 00:28:57,504 Or it's gone bad? Oh. 520 00:28:57,571 --> 00:28:58,972 Yeast doesn't bake. 521 00:28:59,940 --> 00:29:02,242 Well, now I know why he didn't call. 522 00:29:02,308 --> 00:29:04,845 Your wording made it into the platform draft, 523 00:29:04,911 --> 00:29:06,813 but then Shirley MacLaine cut it out. 524 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,882 She cut it out? With actual scissors? 525 00:29:08,949 --> 00:29:10,483 Who does that? 526 00:29:10,551 --> 00:29:12,018 An actress. 527 00:29:12,085 --> 00:29:13,530 How are people supposed to vote on our proposal 528 00:29:13,554 --> 00:29:16,389 if they can't see it? 529 00:29:16,456 --> 00:29:19,159 You don't seem too upset. I'm very upset. Look at me. 530 00:29:19,225 --> 00:29:21,795 I'm eating a hot dog on the grapefruit diet. 531 00:29:21,862 --> 00:29:24,030 So what do we do now? 532 00:29:24,097 --> 00:29:26,299 The Supreme Court will consider Roe v. Wade soon. 533 00:29:26,366 --> 00:29:28,969 Let's hope for a good decision. That won't be enough. 534 00:29:29,035 --> 00:29:32,205 I think we've gone as far as we can go on this. 535 00:29:32,272 --> 00:29:34,508 Didn't help our cause that McGovern felt attacked 536 00:29:34,575 --> 00:29:35,909 at the meeting. 537 00:29:35,976 --> 00:29:38,411 Betty is impossible. 538 00:29:38,478 --> 00:29:40,180 I'm gonna propose we elect one spokeswoman 539 00:29:40,246 --> 00:29:42,583 to represent us at each convention. 540 00:29:42,649 --> 00:29:45,251 So if Betty runs her mouth off to McGovern's campaign 541 00:29:45,318 --> 00:29:48,288 or to the press, she's not speaking for all of us. 542 00:29:48,354 --> 00:29:50,624 She'll just browbeat everyone into voting for her. 543 00:29:50,691 --> 00:29:53,393 Unless you run against her. 544 00:29:55,161 --> 00:29:57,764 When I nominate you, act surprised. 545 00:29:57,831 --> 00:29:59,733 Maybe have a few words prepared. 546 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,837 Nothing formal, but you should have something to say. 547 00:30:13,980 --> 00:30:16,583 Have you been to the gallery? Is it filled? 548 00:30:16,650 --> 00:30:19,786 To the rafters. 549 00:30:19,853 --> 00:30:21,454 Oh, wow. Look at this bread. 550 00:30:21,522 --> 00:30:23,322 What's the occasion? I don't know. Birthday? 551 00:30:23,356 --> 00:30:24,958 Hmm. 552 00:30:25,025 --> 00:30:27,127 Good morning, Henry. 553 00:30:27,193 --> 00:30:28,595 Well, you're in a good mood. 554 00:30:28,662 --> 00:30:30,430 Well, why shouldn't I be in a good mood? 555 00:30:30,496 --> 00:30:32,365 We've got the votes. We're voting today. 556 00:30:32,432 --> 00:30:33,767 Get ready to lose. 557 00:30:37,738 --> 00:30:39,039 Mmm. 558 00:30:41,174 --> 00:30:43,176 Mmm, this is delicious. 559 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,481 Why are you in a good mood? 560 00:30:48,549 --> 00:30:52,118 Oh, just enjoying watching you enjoy that bread. 561 00:30:52,185 --> 00:30:54,120 Why shouldn't I enjoy it? 562 00:31:02,128 --> 00:31:03,528 Enjoy the bread. Vote "no" on ERA. 563 00:31:03,564 --> 00:31:05,732 From the breadmakers to the breadwinners. 564 00:31:07,300 --> 00:31:09,335 Vote "no." Remember, vote "no." 565 00:31:09,402 --> 00:31:11,437 Don't forget to vote "no." That's okay. 566 00:31:11,505 --> 00:31:13,106 We don't want our daughters drafted. 567 00:31:13,173 --> 00:31:15,075 Preserve us from this congressional jam. 568 00:31:15,141 --> 00:31:16,553 Thank you so much. Vote against the ERA sham. 569 00:31:16,577 --> 00:31:18,579 From the breadmakers to the breadwinners. 570 00:31:18,645 --> 00:31:20,213 Oh, thanks. 571 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,282 Make sure to vote no. Don't forget to vote no! 572 00:31:25,185 --> 00:31:26,987 We don't want our daughters drafted. 573 00:31:27,053 --> 00:31:28,097 Don't forget to vote "no" on ERA. 574 00:31:28,121 --> 00:31:29,756 Got one right here. 575 00:31:37,864 --> 00:31:39,700 We might lose Illinois. 576 00:31:39,766 --> 00:31:42,803 What? 577 00:31:42,869 --> 00:31:44,571 I thought we had the votes. 578 00:31:44,638 --> 00:31:46,483 We had the votes, but then this group showed up with bread, 579 00:31:46,507 --> 00:31:47,987 and suddenly we didn't have the votes. 580 00:31:48,041 --> 00:31:50,544 What group? Housewives with bread, 581 00:31:50,611 --> 00:31:53,479 and baked, you know, homemade. 582 00:31:53,547 --> 00:31:54,948 What kind of bread? 583 00:31:55,015 --> 00:31:57,150 What does it matter what kind? I'm curious. 584 00:31:57,217 --> 00:31:59,152 Can we get Ginny Chapman back on the phone? 585 00:31:59,219 --> 00:32:01,522 Find out what kind of bread it was. 586 00:32:01,588 --> 00:32:03,990 Is that all it takes to get a man to change his vote? 587 00:32:04,057 --> 00:32:07,160 Well, there was also jam. 588 00:32:07,227 --> 00:32:09,295 Oh, they finally found the best smoke screen 589 00:32:09,362 --> 00:32:12,799 for their chauvinism. Hmm? Women. 590 00:32:12,866 --> 00:32:18,238 ERA now! ERA now! ERA now! ERA now! 591 00:32:18,304 --> 00:32:20,316 All right, ladies, it's time to go in 592 00:32:20,340 --> 00:32:22,175 and have our voices heard. 593 00:32:22,242 --> 00:32:25,345 These housewives are the last gasp of the patriarchy, 594 00:32:25,411 --> 00:32:28,248 brainwashed to believe that if they don't play the game, 595 00:32:28,314 --> 00:32:30,114 they will lose the love and protection of men. 596 00:32:49,736 --> 00:32:52,372 May I just say, vive la difference? 597 00:32:52,438 --> 00:32:56,476 I know these women. I grew up with them in Peoria. 598 00:32:56,543 --> 00:32:58,712 They've never thought of themselves as feminists. 599 00:32:58,779 --> 00:33:00,156 You know, they're not equipped to earn a living. 600 00:33:00,180 --> 00:33:01,882 They're scared. 601 00:33:01,948 --> 00:33:04,417 No one is legislating that they can't stay in the kitchen 602 00:33:04,484 --> 00:33:06,428 and bake bread all day if that's what they want to do. 603 00:33:06,452 --> 00:33:08,330 The problem is they're not staying in the kitchen. 604 00:33:08,354 --> 00:33:09,499 They're bringing the bread to the legislature. 605 00:33:09,523 --> 00:33:12,125 Who organized the housewives? 606 00:33:12,192 --> 00:33:14,460 That right wing nut. 607 00:33:14,528 --> 00:33:16,697 Phyllis Schlafly? Ah. 608 00:33:16,763 --> 00:33:19,399 I saw her on "Donahue." She was on "Donahue"? 609 00:33:19,465 --> 00:33:21,067 Yeah. Everything out of her mouth was‐‐ 610 00:33:21,134 --> 00:33:24,404 oh, it was all nonsense but smart‐sounding. 611 00:33:24,470 --> 00:33:29,275 We should be worried about her. Mussolini was very popular. 612 00:33:29,342 --> 00:33:31,353 We have to just keep traveling around the country, 613 00:33:31,377 --> 00:33:33,680 talking to them until we get through. 614 00:33:33,747 --> 00:33:35,357 You already spend half your time on the road. 615 00:33:35,381 --> 00:33:38,284 Telling them that marriage is prostitution 616 00:33:38,351 --> 00:33:40,120 and that alimony is war reparations. 617 00:33:40,186 --> 00:33:41,922 I mean, how have they not been converted? 618 00:33:41,988 --> 00:33:43,990 All right, we could all be a little more careful 619 00:33:44,057 --> 00:33:45,926 with our rhetoric. 620 00:33:45,992 --> 00:33:47,493 We do not want housewives 621 00:33:47,561 --> 00:33:48,929 thinking that we are against them. 622 00:33:48,995 --> 00:33:50,463 We are against them. 623 00:33:51,832 --> 00:33:55,769 Revolutions are messy. People get left behind. 624 00:33:55,836 --> 00:33:59,773 It's a tremendous victory for the traditional American family 625 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,842 and, uh, for the institution of marriage, 626 00:34:01,908 --> 00:34:06,246 which is the best deal for women that the world has yet devised. 627 00:34:06,312 --> 00:34:08,915 We will get it ratified next year. 628 00:34:08,982 --> 00:34:10,283 You just got lucky. 629 00:34:10,350 --> 00:34:11,694 What does she mean, we got lucky? 630 00:34:11,718 --> 00:34:13,920 Thank you so much. 631 00:34:13,987 --> 00:34:16,523 Can I ask you something? When you go on "Donahue," 632 00:34:16,590 --> 00:34:18,467 do you know what you're saying has no basis in fact, 633 00:34:18,491 --> 00:34:22,262 or do you just not know what the hell you're talking about? 634 00:34:22,328 --> 00:34:23,706 Oh, I think the majority of American women 635 00:34:23,730 --> 00:34:25,966 know exactly what I'm talking about, 636 00:34:26,032 --> 00:34:27,500 and, I might add, 637 00:34:27,568 --> 00:34:29,503 the majority of the Illinois state legislature. 638 00:34:29,570 --> 00:34:32,205 I read your newsletter. 639 00:34:32,272 --> 00:34:34,474 Hmm? It's all hysteria and lies. 640 00:34:34,541 --> 00:34:37,310 Unisex bathrooms? No child support? 641 00:34:37,377 --> 00:34:41,047 Girls in foxholes? Please. 642 00:34:41,114 --> 00:34:42,916 Do you understand the first thing 643 00:34:42,983 --> 00:34:45,118 about constitutional law? 644 00:34:45,185 --> 00:34:47,688 Do you even have a law degree? 645 00:34:49,823 --> 00:34:52,626 I'm just getting started. 646 00:34:53,594 --> 00:34:55,328 This is a setback. 647 00:34:55,395 --> 00:34:58,298 But we have six more years to get it ratified. 648 00:34:58,364 --> 00:35:01,501 We'll make a more concerted push in Illinois next year. 649 00:35:01,568 --> 00:35:05,639 Moving on, it's time to choose a spokeswoman to represent us 650 00:35:05,706 --> 00:35:07,240 at each convention. 651 00:35:07,307 --> 00:35:09,643 Well, I'd like to nominate Jill for the Republican. 652 00:35:09,710 --> 00:35:12,445 I second. I'm not sure that's necessary. 653 00:35:12,513 --> 00:35:14,247 I'm the only Republican woman here today. 654 00:35:14,314 --> 00:35:16,650 And I'd like to nominate myself for the Democrat‐‐ 655 00:35:16,717 --> 00:35:18,318 You can't nominate yourself, Betty. 656 00:35:18,384 --> 00:35:20,787 Before we get to electing a spokeswoman, 657 00:35:20,854 --> 00:35:23,356 I‐I want to discuss making another push for abortion 658 00:35:23,423 --> 00:35:24,791 at the convention. 659 00:35:24,858 --> 00:35:26,760 If we gather enough signatures in a petition, 660 00:35:26,827 --> 00:35:28,094 we can force a floor vote. 661 00:35:28,161 --> 00:35:30,196 Which would mean being broadcast 662 00:35:30,263 --> 00:35:31,532 on national television. 663 00:35:31,598 --> 00:35:33,066 This might not be the right time. 664 00:35:33,133 --> 00:35:34,701 Well, when is the right time? 665 00:35:34,768 --> 00:35:36,570 After we get McGovern into the White House, 666 00:35:36,637 --> 00:35:38,238 we can control the‐‐ So, what, a year? 667 00:35:38,304 --> 00:35:39,816 If the ERA is safely in the Constitution... 668 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,350 Two or‐‐or maybe a decade? No, really, I wanna know. 669 00:35:41,374 --> 00:35:44,945 How‐‐How long are we supposed to wait? 670 00:35:45,011 --> 00:35:47,881 How many more women are going to die from botched abortions 671 00:35:47,948 --> 00:35:49,792 while we wait for men to feel comfortable with us 672 00:35:49,816 --> 00:35:52,919 having control over our own bodies? 673 00:35:52,986 --> 00:35:55,622 How many women are gonna be forced to give birth to babies 674 00:35:55,689 --> 00:35:57,734 they can't afford to feed while we wait for housewives, 675 00:35:57,758 --> 00:35:59,468 who have no idea what it's like to have to work to survive, 676 00:35:59,492 --> 00:36:02,629 to feel comfortable with women having power? 677 00:36:04,798 --> 00:36:08,234 How long do we give people to adapt to change? 678 00:36:10,871 --> 00:36:14,340 Am I the only one who's so fucking tired of waiting? 679 00:36:22,583 --> 00:36:27,320 We will make this our priority after elections. 680 00:36:30,524 --> 00:36:32,258 Where are you going? 681 00:36:32,325 --> 00:36:33,860 I have to get back to New York. 682 00:36:33,927 --> 00:36:35,896 We haven't voted yet. 683 00:36:35,962 --> 00:36:37,798 I'm not running. 684 00:36:46,006 --> 00:36:48,241 Who wants to nominate me? 685 00:37:11,598 --> 00:37:14,635 Excuse me. Hi. Um... 686 00:37:14,701 --> 00:37:16,670 Sorry. I work in the building. 687 00:37:16,737 --> 00:37:18,414 I was hoping to run into you one of these days 688 00:37:18,438 --> 00:37:21,675 so that you'd sign my copy of the first issue. 689 00:37:22,843 --> 00:37:25,812 I'd be happy to. What's your name? 690 00:37:25,879 --> 00:37:30,416 Theresa. Oh, can you sign this page? 691 00:37:37,724 --> 00:37:40,627 How did you get all those famous women to agree to sign it? 692 00:37:40,694 --> 00:37:45,866 That was easy. The hard part was getting our male publisher 693 00:37:45,932 --> 00:37:47,868 to agree to run it. 694 00:37:54,508 --> 00:37:56,677 Have you ever told anyone? 695 00:37:58,545 --> 00:38:00,547 Only my husband. 696 00:38:02,983 --> 00:38:06,520 We already had three. Money was tight. 697 00:38:06,587 --> 00:38:08,589 It was in a hotel. 698 00:38:08,655 --> 00:38:11,825 A whole bunch of us in one room. 699 00:38:15,395 --> 00:38:18,765 Sorry. 700 00:38:25,506 --> 00:38:26,940 Oh! 701 00:38:27,007 --> 00:38:28,384 There you go. 702 00:38:28,408 --> 00:38:31,277 I'd like to make three toasts. 703 00:38:31,344 --> 00:38:33,379 Roger. To our eldest, John. 704 00:38:35,015 --> 00:38:39,085 We are so proud of our first college graduate. 705 00:38:39,152 --> 00:38:40,320 Yeah. Yeah. 706 00:38:40,386 --> 00:38:41,746 Don't even think about moving home. 707 00:38:42,889 --> 00:38:45,358 And to my mother‐in‐law, who will be gracing us 708 00:38:45,425 --> 00:38:47,127 with her lovely presence every day. 709 00:38:47,193 --> 00:38:49,095 If I ever finish packing. Cheers. 710 00:38:49,162 --> 00:38:50,296 Aw. Hey, Grandma. 711 00:38:50,363 --> 00:38:52,365 And to my darling wife 712 00:38:52,432 --> 00:38:54,535 on her victory in Springfield yesterday. 713 00:38:54,601 --> 00:38:55,845 I'm so proud of what you accomplished. 714 00:38:55,869 --> 00:38:58,905 Aw, thank you. Mwah. Hear, hear. 715 00:38:58,972 --> 00:39:00,817 All: Hear, hear. Hear, hear, and it looks like 716 00:39:00,841 --> 00:39:03,677 we should also be toasting Mayor Daley. 717 00:39:03,744 --> 00:39:06,012 Oh, what do you mean? Well, it says here 718 00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:07,313 Representative Chapman, 719 00:39:07,380 --> 00:39:09,249 the woman who sponsored the ERA... 720 00:39:09,315 --> 00:39:10,684 Mm‐hmm. Yes, I know who she is. 721 00:39:10,751 --> 00:39:12,328 She says the mayor had an ax to grind with her. 722 00:39:12,352 --> 00:39:14,296 So he went and told his people 723 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,123 to vote against it. That's why seven Democrats from Chicago 724 00:39:17,190 --> 00:39:22,128 switched their vote from "yes" to "no." Lucky. 725 00:39:22,195 --> 00:39:24,665 She's spinning tales so she doesn't look incompetent. 726 00:39:24,731 --> 00:39:27,668 Hmm. Off you go. 727 00:39:27,734 --> 00:39:30,370 It was defeated by seven votes. 728 00:39:30,436 --> 00:39:33,306 A win's a win. 729 00:39:41,515 --> 00:39:42,592 I didn't want to be elected spokeswoman. 730 00:39:42,616 --> 00:39:44,050 That's why I left. 731 00:39:44,117 --> 00:39:45,528 Which only made you more attractive. 732 00:39:45,552 --> 00:39:47,788 We need you. Hold on. 733 00:39:52,859 --> 00:39:55,862 McGovern always says you sold him on the women's issue. 734 00:39:55,929 --> 00:39:58,009 Well, then he shouldn't have sold us out on abortion. 735 00:40:00,834 --> 00:40:03,737 I'm gonna go to the convention with my press pass 736 00:40:03,804 --> 00:40:05,606 and my "Chisholm for President" pin. 737 00:40:05,672 --> 00:40:07,884 Oh, don't give me that crap about the power of the press, 738 00:40:07,908 --> 00:40:10,911 and Shirley is gonna be out of the race by the convention. 739 00:40:10,977 --> 00:40:14,548 She got what, a dozen delegates? 740 00:40:15,949 --> 00:40:17,984 I gotta go. 741 00:40:21,321 --> 00:40:23,023 I'm still working. 742 00:40:24,024 --> 00:40:25,125 Hmm? 743 00:40:25,191 --> 00:40:27,027 I didn't know your mom was a reporter. 744 00:40:27,093 --> 00:40:29,863 Oh, for "The Toledo Blade." She quit after Sue was born. 745 00:40:29,930 --> 00:40:32,833 Hmm. Have you read this interview? 746 00:40:32,899 --> 00:40:35,536 Oh, I don't need to read it. I talk to her every day. 747 00:40:35,602 --> 00:40:39,706 Some of these quotes... 748 00:40:39,773 --> 00:40:42,909 "At first, when people would say nasty things about Gloria, 749 00:40:42,976 --> 00:40:44,845 "I would take tranquilizers and cry, 750 00:40:44,911 --> 00:40:49,282 but I've grown a lot lately, and now I just laugh it off." 751 00:40:51,384 --> 00:40:52,929 You should read this. I don't have time to get upset 752 00:40:52,953 --> 00:40:54,855 about my mother telling the world 753 00:40:54,921 --> 00:40:56,523 she wishes I would find a husband. 754 00:40:56,590 --> 00:40:58,358 So you did read it. 755 00:40:58,424 --> 00:41:00,202 Well, I got worried that she was gonna say something crazy 756 00:41:00,226 --> 00:41:02,663 like, "I wish Gloria would find a husband." 757 00:41:02,729 --> 00:41:04,965 Is that so crazy? 758 00:41:05,031 --> 00:41:06,232 Maybe next year. 759 00:41:06,299 --> 00:41:08,334 You know, we aren't getting any younger. 760 00:41:08,401 --> 00:41:09,803 Nobody's getting any younger. 761 00:41:09,870 --> 00:41:11,047 5‐year‐old's aren't getting any younger. 762 00:41:11,071 --> 00:41:12,539 So you don't wanna have a child? 763 00:41:12,606 --> 00:41:13,850 Well, I had a child‐‐ my mother. 764 00:41:13,874 --> 00:41:15,341 I must have done a terrible job, too, 765 00:41:15,408 --> 00:41:17,544 because look how she turned out. 766 00:41:22,783 --> 00:41:26,219 Are you afraid that if you marry me, 767 00:41:26,286 --> 00:41:28,054 you will turn into your mother? 768 00:41:28,121 --> 00:41:30,891 That's a horrible way to propose. 769 00:41:32,826 --> 00:41:34,828 If I do it better next time, 770 00:41:34,895 --> 00:41:36,897 will you change your answer? 771 00:41:39,032 --> 00:41:42,803 Can we talk about this later when I'm not meeting a deadline? 772 00:41:42,869 --> 00:41:45,672 Yeah. I'll call you later, then. 773 00:41:56,449 --> 00:41:57,918 You can't put me off forever. 774 00:42:00,554 --> 00:42:04,157 Wonder Woman. Neat. 775 00:42:13,233 --> 00:42:16,069 George McGovern is the front and only runner 776 00:42:16,136 --> 00:42:18,014 in the New York primary, with all the advantages 777 00:42:18,038 --> 00:42:20,306 and handicaps that usually means. 778 00:42:20,373 --> 00:42:22,408 His own congressional district may have sacrificed 779 00:42:22,475 --> 00:42:25,111 a few delegates now for goodwill 780 00:42:25,178 --> 00:42:27,748 and a larger payoff at the convention. 781 00:42:27,814 --> 00:42:29,325 Campaigning in New York, McGovern has... 782 00:42:29,349 --> 00:42:30,717 You got a few minutes? 783 00:42:30,784 --> 00:42:32,853 Well, can it wait till after the news? 784 00:42:32,919 --> 00:42:35,756 Oh, you know how this ends. They run McGovern. 785 00:42:35,822 --> 00:42:37,591 Nixon squeaks by, and everybody's unhappy. 786 00:42:37,658 --> 00:42:39,392 Only gets you agitated. 787 00:42:43,129 --> 00:42:46,633 Now can you show me where Freund draws a connection 788 00:42:46,700 --> 00:42:48,902 between the ERA and integrated public restrooms, 789 00:42:48,969 --> 00:42:50,804 prisons, and reform schools? 790 00:42:50,871 --> 00:42:53,473 Does it matter? We won. I know. 791 00:42:53,540 --> 00:42:56,242 Just show me how he gets there. 792 00:42:56,309 --> 00:42:57,678 Please. 793 00:42:59,345 --> 00:43:01,748 Just run me through the legal arguments, 794 00:43:01,815 --> 00:43:03,159 so I don't have to bother you each time. 795 00:43:03,183 --> 00:43:05,886 Well, I like it when you bother me. 796 00:43:12,158 --> 00:43:14,427 You weren't the only one who was admitted 797 00:43:14,494 --> 00:43:16,763 to Harvard Law School. 798 00:43:16,830 --> 00:43:19,099 Hmm? I was invited, too. 799 00:43:20,667 --> 00:43:21,868 When was that? 800 00:43:21,935 --> 00:43:23,469 When I was getting my master's. 801 00:43:23,537 --> 00:43:27,440 My constitutional law professor thought I was brilliant. 802 00:43:30,043 --> 00:43:32,879 You really want a crash course in legal research and writing? 803 00:43:32,946 --> 00:43:34,247 Mm‐hmm, yes. Okay. 804 00:43:34,314 --> 00:43:35,982 Well, the first thing you need to know 805 00:43:36,049 --> 00:43:38,819 when presenting a legal argument is that, uh, 806 00:43:38,885 --> 00:43:40,921 while you have a lot of leeway to be creative... 807 00:43:40,987 --> 00:43:42,556 Mm‐hmm. You never want to make 808 00:43:42,623 --> 00:43:46,492 a statement which is objectively verifiable as being false. 809 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:47,694 Okay. For instance, 810 00:43:47,761 --> 00:43:49,229 you wouldn't say that you were 811 00:43:49,295 --> 00:43:51,732 invited to attend Harvard Law School 812 00:43:51,798 --> 00:43:53,275 when it only takes a phone call to find out 813 00:43:53,299 --> 00:43:57,638 that you got your master's in 1945‐‐ 814 00:43:57,704 --> 00:44:00,406 five years before the law school went co‐ed. 815 00:44:05,111 --> 00:44:07,514 They would've made an exception for me. 816 00:44:51,157 --> 00:44:52,959 Or three? Or four? 817 00:44:53,026 --> 00:44:54,895 Or five? Or maybe more. 818 00:45:40,741 --> 00:45:44,044 Where's your fiancé now? 819 00:45:44,110 --> 00:45:47,748 Ex‐fiancé. No, he's back in the States. 820 00:45:47,814 --> 00:45:51,151 May I ask why you haven't told him? 821 00:45:51,217 --> 00:45:53,720 We would have to get married. 822 00:45:53,787 --> 00:45:57,390 After the procedure, there'll be a little bleeding. 823 00:45:57,457 --> 00:46:00,093 You'll be confined to bed for a few days 824 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,320 until the bleeding stops. I'll give you pills for that. 825 00:46:02,362 --> 00:46:06,066 And I hope you'll use birth control in the future, 826 00:46:06,132 --> 00:46:08,368 especially if you plan to spend the year in India. 827 00:46:10,671 --> 00:46:12,939 Thank you. 828 00:46:13,006 --> 00:46:15,208 You must promise me two things. 829 00:46:15,275 --> 00:46:18,912 You will never tell anyone my name. 830 00:46:20,814 --> 00:46:25,118 And you will do what you want to do with your life. 831 00:46:57,951 --> 00:46:59,720 You. 832 00:47:03,790 --> 00:47:05,659 I'll do it. 833 00:47:05,726 --> 00:47:07,661 I'll be the spokeswoman. 834 00:47:09,630 --> 00:47:12,198 On one condition. 835 00:47:12,265 --> 00:47:13,600 Okay. 836 00:47:13,667 --> 00:47:17,237 We force the vote on abortion on the convention floor. 65245

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