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We are people like
everyone in this world.
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♪ ♪
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You're lucky
because you got another shot.
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♪ ♪
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I know what my mother
feels and wants.
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I'm my mom's best friend.
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I've quite a special
picture of the two of you,
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which I thought
was quite sweet.
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Prince Harry:
This is the first time that the two of us
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have ever spoken about her
as a mother.
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Believe it or not,
but you and I are both in this photograph.
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Right. Okay.
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You're in the tummy.
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Oh, nice.
Yeah.
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Arguably, probably,
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a little bit too raw
up until this point.
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It's still raw.
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Prince William:
There's not many days that go by
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that I don't think of her.
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Her 20th anniversary year
feels like a good time
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to remember, you know,
all the good things about her,
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and, hopefully, provide
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maybe a different
side to her
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that others
haven't seen before.
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Woman To celebrate
the life and legacy
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of Diana, Princess of Wales,
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her sons are sharing their
most intimate memories of her,
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for the first time.
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William: We felt incredibly loved,
Harry and I,
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and I am very grateful that
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that love still...
still feels there.
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Harry:
It was that love that...
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that even if she was
on the other side of a room,
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that you, as a son,
you could feel it.
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Disappointed you had a brother
instead of a sister? No, never.
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I thought it was
quite funny...
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Narrator:
Through their mother's personal photographs
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and childhood home movies,
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the people who knew
and loved her
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reveal a Diana
we've never seen before.
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Earl Spencer:
She was always very caring of little people,
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and I suppose I was the first
little person that she cared for.
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Harry: Our mother was a total kid,
through and through.
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She really enjoyed
the laughter and the fun.
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She was one of the
naughtiest parents.
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William:
She had a very cheeky sense of humor.
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She'd loved the rudest cards
you could imagine.
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She was very jolly,
and really enjoyed,
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at times,
making a lot of mischief.
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But she always understood
that there was
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a real life
outside of palace walls.
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Elton John:
Look at her face in every photograph.
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There's a positive,
wonderful glow.
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William:
I think she wanted to make a difference.
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Narrator:
Diana's death at the age of only 36
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shocked the world.
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And it shaped the lives
of her two sons.
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I give thanks that,
I was lucky enough to be her son,
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and that I got to know her
for the 15 years that I did.
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She set us up really well.
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She gave us the right tools
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and has prepared us well
for life
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in the best way she could,
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not, obviously,
knowing what was gonna happen.
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Harry: She was our mum,
she still is our mum.
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You know, and of course,
as her son, I would say that
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she was the best mum
in the world.
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Harry:
When we found these photo albums recently,
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part of me never really
wanted to look at them,
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and part of me was waiting
to find the right time
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where we could sit down
and look at them together.
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She loved taking pictures,
it's so nice.
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She captured some really good,
sort of, portraits of people.
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You kind of get a snapshot of
their personality quite quickly.
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And the funny thing is,
there's not that many of her,
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'cause she's always taking the photographs.
Yeah.
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And it's photos of us
when we were... tiny.
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Yeah, absolutely.
From the start. From day one.
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I think that some
of the pictures here
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are day one of you and day one of me.
Just growing up.
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It's really nice looking back
at it and reminding yourselves.
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And as she...
When I started looking through it,
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it brought back
so many memories.
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I brought this one out
because we were dressing up,
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thinking that we're
looking really cool.
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Yeah.
That was brilliant.
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We used to have great fun mucking around,
didn't we? Yeah.
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Blimey. That's the first
day at school.
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Probably one of my first days.
Your first day then, probably.
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Me turning up thinking I've got my older brother
at this school, he'll be looking after me,
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when, in fact,
you just ignored me.
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And then there's a photo here
I thought you'd like to see.
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Quite a special picture
of the two of you,
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which I thought
was quite sweet.
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Will, where was this?
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This was out on holiday.
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I just remember having the skinniest legs.
I still do.
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You're quite
skinny there.
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You've got some good bushy,
blond eyebrows going on there as well.
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And your freckled nose.
Your freckles have gone quite a lot now.
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You used to have
such freckles.
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They come back every now and then.
They're quite funny, really.
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That is a sweet picture of her.
Happy memories, big smiling faces.
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She smothered us with love, that's for sure.
Yeah.
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♪ ♪
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To myself and William,
she was just the best mother ever.
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She would just engulf you
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and squeeze you
as tight as possible,
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and being as short
as I was then,
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there was no escape,
you were there,
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and you were there for as long
as she wanted to hold you.
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Even talking about it now,
I can feel the hugs that she used to give us,
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and, you know, I miss... I miss that.
I miss that feeling,
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I miss that part of a family,
I miss having that mother
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to be able to give you those hugs
and give you that compassion
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that I think
everybody needs.
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William:
She was extremely good at...
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showing her love.
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She was extremely good at showing,
you know, what we meant to her,
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and, you know,
what feelings meant,
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and how important
it was to feel.
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Um, you know, whether she
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made time for us, physically,
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um, cleared her diary and went
out and did stuff with us,
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or whether she'd sit down
and talk to us about school
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or stuff
that was worrying us,
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or... I think just that
communication,
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always being open,
was very important.
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Harry:
Behind closed doors,
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she was a very loving,
caring mother,
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and an incredibly
funny person.
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One thing I would love
to ask her now, because
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I genuinely think
that she got satisfaction
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out of dressing myself
and William up
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in the most bizarre
outfits,
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normally matching.
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It was weird shorts
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and, you know, like,
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little sort of shiny shoes
with the old clip-on.
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Looking back at the photos,
it just makes me laugh.
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I just think,
"How could you do that to us?"
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And then, funny enough, we got to the age
when William would turn round and go,
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"Oh, this is ridiculous.
You know, I'm the older brother.
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Why do I have to be
dressed the same as him?"
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And I'm going, "Hang on a second,
if you're going to dress differently,
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"I'm not going to be the only
royal person dressed like this.
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This is just ridiculous."
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So, I like to think that she had
great fun in dressing us up.
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I'm sure
that wasn't it, um,
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but I sure as hell am gonna
dress my kids up the same way.
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William:
There's not many days that go by
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that I don't think of her,
you know,
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sometimes sad,
sometimes very positively.
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You know, I have a smile every now
and again when someone says something
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and I think that's exactly
what she would have said,
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or she would have
enjoyed that comment.
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So they always
live with you,
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people, you know,
you lose like that,
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and my mother
lives with me every day.
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Announcer: The House of Kings,
Westminster Abbey.
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For a thousand years,
the cradle of royal power,
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and today, the setting
for a royal wedding.
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Commentator:
How proud their mother would have been today.
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I think this really is
a special moment.
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Director:
I guess there must be the bittersweet days.
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I'm just thinking
of your wedding,
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and you desperately
wanting her to be there
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and to share in it.
Yeah.
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Do feel somehow that
she was there with you?
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I did, and I...
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I sort of beforehand,
you know,
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had a lot to time
to think about it.
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♪ ♪
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Archbishop: I pronounce that
they be man and wife together
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in the name of the Father,
and of the Son
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and of the Holy Ghost.
Amen.
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William:
When it came to the wedding,
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I did really feel
that she was there.
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You know, there's
those times when you...
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you look to someone
or something for strength,
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and I very much felt
she was there for me.
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♪ ♪
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Announcer:
For the first time
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through the center gateway
of Admiralty Arch
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arrives Lady Diana.
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And when we see her,
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perhaps like
all royal brides
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the veil
will be thrown back
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and we will see
that lovely face.
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Narrator:
It was on the day of her wedding
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that Diana first captured
the world's imagination.
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Pageantry and romance
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were an unbeatable
combination.
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The press called it
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the wedding of the century.
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Archbishop:
I, Diana Frances...
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Diana:
I, Diana Frances...
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take thee
Charles Philip Arthur George
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to my wedded husband...
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Diana:
to my wedded husband...
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Narrator:
Diana's marriage was a joyous event
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which everyone
could relate to.
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But it was also
an utterly unique experience.
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Diana was joining the most
famous family in the world.
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At the end of the day,
she was a normal 20-year-old...
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normal 20-year-old
Lady Spencer...
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marrying into the institution,
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marrying into the royal...
British royal family.
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And she brought
a breath of fresh air
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to everything
that she did.
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Narrator:
Diana Spencer grew up in one of the grandest
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aristocratic families
in England.
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Her father was a keen
amateur cameraman.
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The home movies he made
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give us a precious glimpse
into Diana's early life
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She was always very caring
of little people,
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and I suppose I was
the first little person
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that she cared for.
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My mother left home
when I was two or three,
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and so Diana
was the most significant,
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I suppose,
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warm female presence
in my life.
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And, you know, we spent
so much time together.
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I think our parents' divorce
was quite tricky for all of us.
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It was very...
sort of bitter
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and had an impact,
a big impact.
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They never spoke, you know.
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I do feel that the girl
I grew up with
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had a sort of bundle
of insecurities
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and unhappinesses.
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Because of her own
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sensitivities
and vulnerabilities,
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she felt able to connect
with people
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who were going through
a very tough time,
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and sort of give them hope.
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As she grew up,
there was a massive change in Diana.
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She suddenly felt
more confident.
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A definite blossoming.
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She sort of realized
that she was really funny.
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I mean, her sense of humor
was fantastic.
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And male friends
suddenly started to realize
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that this little girl was
growing into a very interesting
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and very pretty
young thing.
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Narrator:
Diana had a small and intimate
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circle of friends.
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In this film,
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they're speaking about her
for the first time.
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Harry Herbert:
The first time I met her,
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I was playing golf
at Balmoral.
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My dad, you know,
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was great friends
with the queen,
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and just as I was
about to play my shot,
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this vision of beauty
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appeared over the horizon,
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full of laughter and energy,
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and that was the first time
that I met Diana,
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and, um...
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like everyone
who meets her,
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she certainly
had a big impact.
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I'm sure my shot
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was violently hooked
or sliced.
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But we became great friends
from that moment.
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Narrator:
Lady Carolyn Warren
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was a family friend
of Diana's.
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Carolyn Warren:
I was about 15, 16,
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and she would have been just
a little bit older than me.
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She was great fun,
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had an amazing
sense of humor,
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and could light up
the room.
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Very, very caring.
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Uh, she was always
the person who,
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if somebody
was feeling down,
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or there'd been a bust-up
with a boyfriend
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or whatever it was,
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she was first man in
to sort of, um,
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give a helping hand.
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These are photographs,
that I remember,
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of Diana when she was working
for my sister as a nanny.
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Narrator:
William van Straubenzee
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met Diana when she was 14.
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She was shy,
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and she was
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pretty unsure of herself,
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and, um, pretty naive,
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and quite gullible, really.
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She was quite easy to tease,
etcetera,
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but she took it
in incredibly good spirits.
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But you had no inkling
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of what sort of person
she was going to be.
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You know,
wandering around
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in jerseys
covered in hippos,
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and jeans,
and slobbing around and...
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She pinched my shirts
quite often
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because she thought that
that was quite a...
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quite a good thing to do.
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Whenever you saw her alone
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she would have picked up
some trashy romantic novel.
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You know, she was a bit
of a dreamer.
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There was a side to her
which wished
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that somebody would
sweep her off her feet.
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Commentator:
This was the moment they had come
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from all corners
of the kingdom to see.
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A new princess for Wales.
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Earl Spencer:
I remember on the wedding day
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going back to my mother's flat
after the wedding and thinking,
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"Well, that's done,
so we'll all move on now,"
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not realizing that she had just
become a sort of global superstar.
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She was so young
and fresh
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and vibrant
and good-looking
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and unstuffy.
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And this was all quite new,
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uh, for somebody
in that position.
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Narrator:
Only three months after her wedding,
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Diana's life
as a working royal began
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with a tour of Wales.
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There was no training
for her new role.
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She was thrown
into the deep end.
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Accompanying her
was the lady-in-waiting
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who'd be by her side
for the next ten years.
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Anne Beckwith-Smith:
That... I think for both of us...
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was a baptism of fire.
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It was an extraordinary
experience.
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It was that noise...
it was the cheering,
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it was the children screaming,
you know.
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It must have been
very daunting.
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Harry Herbert:
What happened, I think,
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was that everyone out there
who didn't know Diana,
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they were all having
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the "9th green
at Balmoral moment"
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that I had.
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They realized this was
such a natural person.
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There wasn't...
She wasn't trying to be
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anything other than herself.
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Anne Beckwith-Smith:
Her ability to go up to people
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and put her hand out
and just touch them,
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it was... you know,
remembering it now,
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I can...
it was very moving.
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William:
That immediate warmth
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was always there
for whoever she met.
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It didn't matter where you came from,
what you did,
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you know,
she could talk to you.
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Um, and I think she,
generally, just had a real...
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a real ability
to connect very quickly.
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♪ ♪
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Narrator:
Home for Prince William and Prince Harry
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is Kensington Palace,
where they grew up.
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It's always been a haven,
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a place where their mother
tried to carve out
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an ordinary family life
for them.
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My mother cherished
those moments of...
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of privacy and being able
to be that mother,
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rather than
the Princess of Wales.
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She made the decision that,
no matter what,
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despite all of the difficulties
of growing up
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in that limelight
and on that stage,
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she was going to ensure
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that both of us had
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as normal a life
as possible.
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And if that means, you know,
taking us for a burger every now and then,
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or sneaking us
into the cinema,
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or driving through
the country lanes
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with the roof down
of her old-school BMW
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listening to Enya,
I think it was...
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God, blast from the past.
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♪ Sail away, sail away,
sail away ♪
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♪ Sail away, sail away... ♪
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Harry:
All of that was part of her being a mum.
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♪ Sail away, sail away,
sail away ♪
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William:
She was very informal and...
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really enjoyed
the laughter and the fun.
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But she understood
that there was
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a real life outside
of palace walls,
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and she wanted us to see it
from a very young age,
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and we understood some of
the real problems in life
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that, you know,
can pass you by very easily,
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particularly
in this situation,
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if you don't go
looking for it.
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♪ ♪
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William: Can I come and sit here?
Is that all right?
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How are you doing?
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What's your name?
David.
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Narrator:
A homeless shelter isn't where you'd imagine
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a member of the royal family
might hang out.
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But The Passage,
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London's biggest
homeless center,
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is a place where Prince William
feels very much at home.
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Man:
How's George?
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Very well.
He's growing fast. Is he? Yes, yes.
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His tummy and his
shoulders have got so big
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that we've had to, like,
quickly re-tailor his outfits.
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He's growing
at a rate of knots.
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He's going to be...
He's going to be quite a big boy, I think,
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like his father.
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Narrator:
Prince William has been visiting The Passage
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since he was a boy.
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His mother first brought him
here when he was only 12.
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William:
I was quite nervous about that at the time.
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But I just enjoyed
meeting these people
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who had incredible stories
and who clearly
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had had a very,
very tough time.
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My interest
in homelessness
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has come from that,
that one encounter.
404
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That's fantastic, Brian.
Look at that!
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That's awesome.
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Do you find the drawing
and the arts sort of help?
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00:21:09,241 --> 00:21:10,958
Yeah, it helps with depression,
William.
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Ah. Does it?
I suffer depression, you know,
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'cause I lost my wife last year, you know.
I'm sorry to hear that.
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The times that I've seen him,
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I could just picture
going to the local pub
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and just having a pint
with him.
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And he's not afraid
to get his hands dirty,
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which, I think, that's
just like his mother.
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She was a soldier for...
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for the royal family.
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Narrator: Homelessness was one
of the first social issues
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which the Princess of Wales
embraced.
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She ventured into some of
London's roughest neighborhoods
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to discover what life
was really like,
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out on the streets.
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She woke me up.
I love her.
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She said, "Oh, I see you've dressed
especially for me" sort of thing.
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And I just cracked a joke,
saying my Savile Row suit's
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in the cleaners
at the moment.
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Narrator:
Victor Adebowale
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was the chief executive
of Centrepoint,
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Britain's biggest
homeless charity.
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He worked side-by-side
with Diana
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to raise awareness of the
plight of the homeless.
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Victor Adebowale:
She took it to heart,
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that it was wrong
that this was happening
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in what was
a very wealthy society.
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And she talked to me
about it, you know,
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she felt
that it was wrong,
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that it was, you know,
deeply immoral.
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Narrator:
The princess went into battle.
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she made a hard-hitting
speech about homelessness,
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which landed her
in political hot water.
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I am appalled
at the dangers
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young people face
on the streets
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and how vulnerable they are
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to exploitation.
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Narrator:
Coming against a backdrop of budget cuts,
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her speech was seen
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as an attack
on the government.
447
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The princess
really is a rather
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headstrong and willful
young lady,
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as charming and delightful
as she is in other ways...
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Victor Adebowale: The speech that
she gave about youth homelessness
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made its way onto the floor
of the Houses of Parliament
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and, you know,
we were accused of
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politicizing the royal family
as a result,
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so...
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I thought she was brave,
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in a quiet but resolute way.
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I do. I mean, she could have
dropped us at any time.
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You know,
too hot to handle.
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This is an issue that's
quite difficult.
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That's how
the world changes.
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People stand up
for what they believe in.
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I think it was hard for her.
I think it was a real,
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a real strain of the...
of the public role,
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quite often. Um...
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having to do the stuff
that she was doing,
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involved with the certain...
the charities that she was involved with.
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You know, you need respite,
you need somewhere to,
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you know,
to go and dump it.
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William:
There was always a sense of
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enthusiasm and energy
around her,
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and a lot of warmth as well.
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There was always that sort of
bubbling personality
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going on the whole time.
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I think she lived
a lot of her life,
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especially in private,
through us.
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And I think that sort of
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childish, fun element
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really came out when
she was spending time with us.
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Yeah!
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Our mother was a total kid
through and through.
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Whenever anybody
says to me, you know,
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"So, she was fun...
give us an example,"
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all I can hear
is her laugh in my head.
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And that sort of
crazy laugh
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of where there was just
pure happiness
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shown on her face.
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One of her mottoes
to me was,
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"You can be as naughty
as you want,
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just don't get caught."
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She was one
of the naughtiest parents.
491
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She would come and watch us
play football
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and, you know,
smuggle sweets into our socks.
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And, I mean, like literally
walking back from a football match
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and having sort of
five packets of Starburst,
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and just the whole shirt
was just bulging with sweets.
496
00:25:26,825 --> 00:25:27,717
And then it's
sort of looking around,
497
00:25:27,917 --> 00:25:30,208
open the tuck box,
throw it all in, lock it up.
498
00:25:31,417 --> 00:25:33,050
William:
She was a massive card writer.
499
00:25:33,250 --> 00:25:35,550
She loved the rudest cards
you could imagine.
500
00:25:35,750 --> 00:25:38,733
And I would be at school and
I'd get a card from my mother.
501
00:25:38,933 --> 00:25:41,917
Usually she found something,
you know, very embarrassing,
502
00:25:42,117 --> 00:25:44,425
you know,
a very funny card,
503
00:25:44,625 --> 00:25:46,258
and then sort of wrote
very nice stuff inside.
504
00:25:46,458 --> 00:25:50,166
But I dared not open it in case the teachers
or anyone else in the class had seen it.
505
00:25:54,917 --> 00:25:56,458
There's a couple
of memories I have
506
00:25:56,658 --> 00:25:57,759
that are particularly funny.
507
00:25:57,959 --> 00:26:00,171
Just outside this room
where we are now, um,
508
00:26:00,371 --> 00:26:02,383
she organized,
when I came home from school,
509
00:26:02,583 --> 00:26:05,959
to have Cindy Crawford,
Christy Turlington, and Naomi Campbell,
510
00:26:06,159 --> 00:26:07,592
waiting at the top
of the stairs.
511
00:26:07,792 --> 00:26:10,254
I was probably
a 12- or 13-year-old boy,
512
00:26:10,454 --> 00:26:12,917
who had posters of them
on his wall.
513
00:26:14,291 --> 00:26:15,342
And I went bright red
514
00:26:15,542 --> 00:26:17,841
and didn't quite know what to say,
and sort of fumbled,
515
00:26:18,041 --> 00:26:20,917
and I think I pretty much fell
down the stairs on the way up.
516
00:26:21,117 --> 00:26:24,467
I was completely and utterly
sort of awestruck.
517
00:26:24,667 --> 00:26:26,917
That was a very funny memory
that's lived with me forever
518
00:26:27,117 --> 00:26:28,509
about her loving
and embarrassing,
519
00:26:28,709 --> 00:26:33,133
and sort of being...
being this sort of joker.
520
00:26:33,333 --> 00:26:37,000
Narrator: A sense of humor was
a vital release for Diana,
521
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,083
as she began to embrace
some of the most
522
00:26:39,283 --> 00:26:41,542
controversial issues
of the day.
523
00:26:44,250 --> 00:26:46,166
Commercial Announcer:
There is now a danger
524
00:26:46,366 --> 00:26:48,125
that has become a threat
to us all.
525
00:26:51,458 --> 00:26:52,966
Narrator:
By the 1980s,
526
00:26:53,166 --> 00:26:57,545
the world was in the grip
of a terrible epidemic.
527
00:26:57,745 --> 00:27:01,397
The gay community had
been devastated by AIDS.
528
00:27:01,597 --> 00:27:05,386
But tabloid newspapers
ignored their suffering,
529
00:27:05,586 --> 00:27:09,026
and instead accused them
of spreading the disease.
530
00:27:09,226 --> 00:27:12,667
Their headlines stirred up
a storm of prejudice.
531
00:27:13,625 --> 00:27:14,966
As a young gay man,
532
00:27:15,166 --> 00:27:18,250
Ian Walker endured years
of discrimination.
533
00:27:19,792 --> 00:27:22,125
Ian Walker:
People were terrified of catching HIV.
534
00:27:22,325 --> 00:27:24,542
And a lot of people
would talk about the day
535
00:27:24,742 --> 00:27:25,675
that they
were diagnosed
536
00:27:25,875 --> 00:27:27,467
as the day that people
stopped touching them.
537
00:27:27,667 --> 00:27:31,375
That from then on,
it was rubber gloves and masks and gowns.
538
00:27:31,575 --> 00:27:33,550
You heard stories of people
going to the dentist
539
00:27:33,750 --> 00:27:37,709
and people were, like,
dressed up in a space suit to deal with them.
540
00:27:40,166 --> 00:27:42,792
Narrator:
At a time when the fear of physical contact
541
00:27:42,992 --> 00:27:45,050
with AIDS sufferers
was at its height,
542
00:27:45,250 --> 00:27:48,333
the princess visited
the Middlesex Hospital.
543
00:27:49,667 --> 00:27:53,250
It housed the only
AIDS unit in the UK.
544
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,750
Anne Beckwith-Smith:
She just walked into that room,
545
00:27:57,950 --> 00:28:00,550
and there was a gentleman...
546
00:28:00,750 --> 00:28:04,129
and did what she would
normally do
547
00:28:04,329 --> 00:28:07,044
to anybody else
she was meeting.
548
00:28:07,244 --> 00:28:09,959
She just shook him
by the hand.
549
00:28:11,583 --> 00:28:15,000
And that picture went viral,
550
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,583
um, 'round the world.
551
00:28:20,083 --> 00:28:21,834
Ian Walker:
That was very powerful,
552
00:28:22,034 --> 00:28:25,050
that she made that contact.
553
00:28:25,250 --> 00:28:28,150
She just smashed
all that fear down
554
00:28:28,350 --> 00:28:31,250
by that one...
that one handshake.
555
00:28:34,333 --> 00:28:35,717
Narrator:
The London Lighthouse
556
00:28:35,917 --> 00:28:39,629
was at the heart of the
AIDS epidemic in Britain
557
00:28:39,829 --> 00:28:43,342
It provided care
for the sick and the dying.
558
00:28:43,542 --> 00:28:47,291
Ian Walker: I was an occupational
therapist at the London Lighthouse,
559
00:28:47,491 --> 00:28:50,792
and the deaths
were just relentless.
560
00:28:52,792 --> 00:28:55,759
You'd go home at night...
561
00:28:55,959 --> 00:28:59,417
and you weren't sure who was
gonna be there the next day.
562
00:29:02,083 --> 00:29:04,750
Narrator:
The princess became The London Lighthouse's
563
00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:06,425
greatest champion,
564
00:29:06,625 --> 00:29:09,008
publicly supporting
the charity,
565
00:29:09,208 --> 00:29:12,417
but also regularly
visiting patients,
566
00:29:12,617 --> 00:29:14,925
often on her own time.
567
00:29:15,125 --> 00:29:19,333
Gerard McGrath: When she came in,
it was like she was shining.
568
00:29:19,533 --> 00:29:21,125
That smile...
569
00:29:21,325 --> 00:29:22,717
it just beamed.
570
00:29:22,917 --> 00:29:24,879
When she smiled,
she beamed.
571
00:29:25,079 --> 00:29:27,043
Um... I sound
like a sycophant,
572
00:29:27,243 --> 00:29:29,208
but you know,
that's how it was.
573
00:29:29,408 --> 00:29:31,217
Um, and, uh...
574
00:29:31,417 --> 00:29:35,000
And I'm not a royal
person, really,
575
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,625
I'm a Republican,
576
00:29:36,825 --> 00:29:38,467
but, um,
577
00:29:38,667 --> 00:29:40,667
she was an exception.
578
00:29:45,041 --> 00:29:47,208
Gerard: How are you?
Ian: How are you? Good to see you.
579
00:29:47,408 --> 00:29:50,592
Hello. How are you?
Nice to see you.
580
00:29:50,792 --> 00:29:54,208
Narrator:
Sir Elton John was a friend of Diana's,
581
00:29:54,408 --> 00:29:57,250
and like her,
a committed AIDS activist.
582
00:29:59,417 --> 00:30:01,883
Would she come here unannounced?
Yeah, yeah.
583
00:30:02,083 --> 00:30:05,041
Narrator: Prince Harry is joining
him at the London Lighthouse
584
00:30:05,241 --> 00:30:08,187
to hear more
about his mother's work.
585
00:30:08,387 --> 00:30:11,133
It was considered
to be a gay disease,
586
00:30:11,333 --> 00:30:14,608
and for someone who
was within the royal family
587
00:30:14,808 --> 00:30:17,908
and who was a woman,
and who was straight...
588
00:30:18,108 --> 00:30:21,208
and to have someone care
from the other side
589
00:30:21,408 --> 00:30:23,509
was an incredible gift.
590
00:30:23,709 --> 00:30:25,625
You can see it in the photographs.
Exactly.
591
00:30:25,825 --> 00:30:27,509
When you look back
to these days,
592
00:30:27,709 --> 00:30:30,759
when actually the reality
was doom and gloom...
593
00:30:30,959 --> 00:30:33,875
Absolutely. And look at all...
The reality then was doom and gloom,
594
00:30:34,075 --> 00:30:36,917
yet everybody in that
photograph is smiling.
595
00:30:37,117 --> 00:30:39,050
Because of her.
Yes, because of her.
596
00:30:39,250 --> 00:30:42,458
She had an energy...
Look at her face, in every photograph,
597
00:30:42,658 --> 00:30:44,687
there's a positive,
wonderful glow.
598
00:30:44,887 --> 00:30:46,717
Also she had this
incredible ability,
599
00:30:46,917 --> 00:30:48,750
which he's kind of inherited
and I told him that,
600
00:30:48,950 --> 00:30:50,583
and he said,
"Thanks very much,"
601
00:30:50,783 --> 00:30:52,050
to make people feel at ease
602
00:30:52,250 --> 00:30:55,250
and make them feel that
everything's gonna be all right.
603
00:30:55,450 --> 00:30:57,270
I haven't experienced
many people
604
00:30:57,470 --> 00:30:59,091
in my life
who have that ability.
605
00:30:59,291 --> 00:31:01,217
but she could walk
into a room of people
606
00:31:01,417 --> 00:31:04,417
and make them feel
as if everything was great.
607
00:31:06,083 --> 00:31:08,041
♪ ♪
608
00:31:14,750 --> 00:31:16,879
Narrator:
It's World AIDS Day
609
00:31:17,079 --> 00:31:19,008
and Prince Harry
is in Barbados.
610
00:31:19,208 --> 00:31:21,733
He is encouraging people
to take a blood test.
611
00:31:21,933 --> 00:31:24,258
It's the best way
to stop the spread of AIDS.
612
00:31:24,458 --> 00:31:27,083
All right. I'll just take
a little bit more from you.
613
00:31:27,283 --> 00:31:29,634
Don't take it all.
No, I'm not gonna take all.
614
00:31:29,834 --> 00:31:34,625
Narrator: Prince Harry has brought
along a friend to help spread the word.
615
00:31:34,825 --> 00:31:37,166
She's one of the most
famous women on the planet.
616
00:31:37,366 --> 00:31:39,208
Welcome, Rihanna.
Thanks for taking part.
617
00:31:39,408 --> 00:31:41,966
Of course.
My pleasure.
618
00:31:42,166 --> 00:31:44,625
Harry: There was an opportunity
there to get Rihanna,
619
00:31:44,825 --> 00:31:45,883
who has got, you know,
620
00:31:46,083 --> 00:31:49,191
over 60 million followers
on Instagram alone.
621
00:31:49,391 --> 00:31:52,500
And to be able to get
someone in her position,
622
00:31:52,700 --> 00:31:55,625
who has lost quite
a few friends to AIDS,
623
00:31:55,825 --> 00:31:58,125
I think is...
it's fantastic.
624
00:31:58,325 --> 00:32:00,925
You really made this...
625
00:32:01,125 --> 00:32:03,166
You made it feel like it...
It's a pinprick.
626
00:32:03,366 --> 00:32:06,050
...seem like it hurt.
627
00:32:06,250 --> 00:32:08,750
Rihanna: I just think it's incredible,
what he's doing
628
00:32:08,950 --> 00:32:10,625
to bring awareness
to HIV and AIDS,
629
00:32:10,825 --> 00:32:12,500
and I think the most
important thing is
630
00:32:12,700 --> 00:32:15,041
to kind of dilute the stigma,
631
00:32:15,241 --> 00:32:16,634
um, as much as possible.
632
00:32:16,834 --> 00:32:20,375
Um, I think that's that thing
that's crippling the most.
633
00:32:22,959 --> 00:32:24,634
Harry:
My mother was a role model.
634
00:32:24,834 --> 00:32:28,333
She was someone who,
at an incredibly young age,
635
00:32:28,533 --> 00:32:30,667
would put her passion
behind something
636
00:32:30,867 --> 00:32:31,925
that she genuinely
believed in.
637
00:32:32,125 --> 00:32:34,625
And I think that's fantastic.
You know, good for her.
638
00:32:34,825 --> 00:32:36,959
And... And thank God for her.
639
00:32:45,250 --> 00:32:47,375
♪ ♪
640
00:32:52,792 --> 00:32:55,083
Jayne Fincher:
I'd worked with Charles and Diana
641
00:32:55,283 --> 00:32:58,417
for many, many years,
photographing them.
642
00:33:00,500 --> 00:33:02,941
You know, when you work
with them all those years
643
00:33:03,141 --> 00:33:05,583
and you watch every
little thing that goes on,
644
00:33:05,783 --> 00:33:07,717
you know,
you become part of it all.
645
00:33:07,917 --> 00:33:10,875
You know you can't help but
feel affection towards them,
646
00:33:11,075 --> 00:33:13,417
and, you know,
you want them to be happy.
647
00:33:18,542 --> 00:33:21,375
The newspapers had been
writing a lot of stories,
648
00:33:21,575 --> 00:33:23,667
negative stories
about the marriage,
649
00:33:23,867 --> 00:33:25,875
and personally,
I tried to ignore it
650
00:33:26,075 --> 00:33:28,083
because I didn't
want to read them
651
00:33:28,283 --> 00:33:30,291
and I didn't want
to believe it.
652
00:33:30,491 --> 00:33:32,291
So I poo-pooed it a bit.
653
00:33:33,709 --> 00:33:35,709
The penny didn't
really drop for me
654
00:33:35,909 --> 00:33:37,542
until we went to Korea.
655
00:33:41,542 --> 00:33:43,046
She looked wretched,
656
00:33:43,246 --> 00:33:44,606
he looked wretched,
657
00:33:44,806 --> 00:33:45,966
and I thought finally,
658
00:33:46,166 --> 00:33:48,917
"Hmm, something's
going on here."
659
00:33:50,291 --> 00:33:52,004
I's very evident
when you look at the pictures
660
00:33:52,204 --> 00:33:53,717
that they look very distanced
from each other,
661
00:33:53,917 --> 00:33:56,750
even to the point where,
they're walking down a staircase.
662
00:33:56,950 --> 00:33:59,250
They're both walking down
a separate set of stairs,
663
00:33:59,450 --> 00:34:00,717
and there's a wall
in the middle,
664
00:34:00,917 --> 00:34:04,125
and it kind of sums up what
was going on at that point.
665
00:34:04,325 --> 00:34:06,000
It wasn't a very happy tour.
666
00:34:10,625 --> 00:34:12,959
Harry Herbert:
That was a bad time for Diana.
667
00:34:14,834 --> 00:34:17,417
You know, a bit the light
had gone out, if you like.
668
00:34:17,617 --> 00:34:18,834
♪ ♪
669
00:34:20,417 --> 00:34:23,208
Narrator:
One person who was deeply concerned
670
00:34:23,408 --> 00:34:25,417
was the princess's
mother-in-law.
671
00:34:26,792 --> 00:34:29,750
Harry Herbert: I had a talk
to the queen about it
672
00:34:29,950 --> 00:34:31,509
up at Balmoral.
673
00:34:31,709 --> 00:34:34,583
The queen would talk to me
about it because...
674
00:34:34,783 --> 00:34:36,104
she was so worried.
675
00:34:36,304 --> 00:34:37,425
She was so... so...
676
00:34:37,625 --> 00:34:39,625
you know, worried about...
worried about Diana.
677
00:34:42,208 --> 00:34:44,634
After a lunch at Balmoral
678
00:34:44,834 --> 00:34:47,583
and going up high
and looking down onto this
679
00:34:47,783 --> 00:34:50,458
beautiful setting
of heather
680
00:34:50,658 --> 00:34:52,966
and castle...
681
00:34:53,166 --> 00:34:55,291
An incredibly, you know,
682
00:34:55,491 --> 00:34:57,258
important chat,
683
00:34:57,458 --> 00:35:00,175
a very personal,
personal chat.
684
00:35:00,375 --> 00:35:04,458
And the queen wanted to know
how was Diana feeling,
685
00:35:04,658 --> 00:35:07,834
and was it as bad
686
00:35:08,034 --> 00:35:09,800
as it was.
687
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,837
And it was a sad discussion,
688
00:35:13,037 --> 00:35:15,168
a sad... a sad, you know,
689
00:35:15,368 --> 00:35:17,300
a sad moment, really,
690
00:35:17,500 --> 00:35:21,208
because that was
everything at its worst.
691
00:35:25,375 --> 00:35:28,375
I remember going to see Diana
in Kensington Palace
692
00:35:28,575 --> 00:35:30,750
when... when things weren't
693
00:35:30,950 --> 00:35:32,509
particularly easy
694
00:35:32,709 --> 00:35:34,709
in, you know,
her married life.
695
00:35:36,125 --> 00:35:38,709
She was, you know,
very emotional.
696
00:35:40,208 --> 00:35:43,008
Suddenly, these two boys
697
00:35:43,208 --> 00:35:44,966
came thundering
around the corner
698
00:35:45,166 --> 00:35:48,208
in their dressing gowns...
this was before bed...
699
00:35:48,408 --> 00:35:49,966
and just...
700
00:35:50,166 --> 00:35:52,709
watching her face light up.
701
00:35:52,909 --> 00:35:54,979
Going from sad chat,
702
00:35:55,179 --> 00:35:57,250
to, suddenly, "boof"...
703
00:35:57,450 --> 00:35:58,300
you know.
704
00:35:58,500 --> 00:36:00,208
I'll never forget
that moment,
705
00:36:00,408 --> 00:36:02,270
and them, you know,
706
00:36:02,470 --> 00:36:04,133
crawling all over her
707
00:36:04,333 --> 00:36:06,275
and things flying
everywhere.
708
00:36:06,475 --> 00:36:08,929
Through all the difficulty
709
00:36:09,129 --> 00:36:11,383
of other stuff at that time...
710
00:36:11,583 --> 00:36:14,250
you could see the most
important thing in her life
711
00:36:14,450 --> 00:36:15,709
were her boys.
712
00:36:20,417 --> 00:36:22,750
John Major:
It is announced from Buckingham Palace
713
00:36:22,950 --> 00:36:23,717
that, with regret,
714
00:36:23,917 --> 00:36:25,667
the Prince
and Princess of Wales
715
00:36:25,867 --> 00:36:27,342
have decided to separate.
716
00:36:27,542 --> 00:36:29,425
Their Royal Highnesses
have no plans...
717
00:36:29,625 --> 00:36:31,917
Then there was the point
of where our parents split,
718
00:36:32,117 --> 00:36:32,883
and we were...
and the two of us
719
00:36:33,083 --> 00:36:34,983
were bouncing between
the two of them,
720
00:36:35,183 --> 00:36:36,762
and we never saw
our mother enough,
721
00:36:36,962 --> 00:36:38,542
or we never saw
our father enough.
722
00:36:41,583 --> 00:36:44,083
You know, there was a lot of...
a lot of traveling.
723
00:36:45,166 --> 00:36:46,675
And a lot of...
a lot of, you know,
724
00:36:46,875 --> 00:36:49,959
fights in the backseat with my brother,
of which I would win.
725
00:36:50,159 --> 00:36:53,425
So, it was... There was
all of that to contend with,
726
00:36:53,625 --> 00:36:56,208
and I don't pretend that we're the
only people to have to deal with that.
727
00:36:56,408 --> 00:36:59,625
But, um, it was...
it was an interesting way of growing up.
728
00:37:06,333 --> 00:37:08,291
Narrator:
Privacy had been hard to come by
729
00:37:08,491 --> 00:37:10,583
as a member
of the royal family.
730
00:37:12,041 --> 00:37:14,258
But following her separation,
731
00:37:14,458 --> 00:37:16,834
media obsession
with the princess
732
00:37:17,034 --> 00:37:18,834
reached fever pitch.
733
00:37:22,875 --> 00:37:25,000
Jayne Fincher:
I remember one particular trip.
734
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,592
We were in Lech
in Austria,
735
00:37:27,792 --> 00:37:30,709
and the deal was that the
Palace would arrange for us
736
00:37:30,909 --> 00:37:33,166
to have a photo-call
on the first day.
737
00:37:37,458 --> 00:37:39,383
And the understanding
was that then,
738
00:37:39,583 --> 00:37:43,709
"Okay, let them then ski off
and have a lovely holiday."
739
00:37:43,909 --> 00:37:45,800
On this particular day,
we'd had our photo-call,
740
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,834
so, you know, you shouldn't have
been out with your camera anymore.
741
00:37:50,458 --> 00:37:52,467
And Diana came out
with the boys
742
00:37:52,667 --> 00:37:55,291
and they tried going through
the town to the sweetshop.
743
00:37:56,875 --> 00:37:59,542
And the photographers were just,
like, running everywhere.
744
00:37:59,742 --> 00:38:02,000
It was like rats
running everywhere.
745
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,983
They all wanted to be
in their face,
746
00:38:06,183 --> 00:38:07,991
right up to them,
pushing and shoving.
747
00:38:08,191 --> 00:38:09,766
They were fighting
with each other,
748
00:38:09,966 --> 00:38:12,300
photographers
were falling over,
749
00:38:12,500 --> 00:38:14,634
and the boys
were frightened.
750
00:38:14,834 --> 00:38:17,337
And I was in the shop
when she came into the shop.
751
00:38:17,537 --> 00:38:20,106
It was like,
she was sort of exasperated by it.
752
00:38:20,306 --> 00:38:22,675
"What are they doing?
Why are they doing this?"
753
00:38:22,875 --> 00:38:26,542
You know, "I've kept my part of the deal,
we did our photo-call.
754
00:38:26,742 --> 00:38:28,175
Why are they all doing this?"
755
00:38:28,375 --> 00:38:31,041
And she said,
"I don't want the boys upset like this."
756
00:38:37,417 --> 00:38:38,667
Excuse me.
757
00:38:40,709 --> 00:38:42,509
As a parent,
758
00:38:42,709 --> 00:38:46,175
could I ask you to respect
my children's space?
759
00:38:46,375 --> 00:38:48,834
Because I've brought the children
out here for a holiday...
760
00:38:49,034 --> 00:38:49,800
Photographer:
Right.
761
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,083
Diana:
...and we'd really appreciate the space.
762
00:38:52,283 --> 00:38:53,217
And I'm sure as a...
Would it be possible
763
00:38:53,417 --> 00:38:55,709
to just get a picture of
you this afternoon... No.
764
00:38:55,909 --> 00:38:57,425
...and I'll leave you alone.
No.
765
00:38:57,625 --> 00:39:00,917
As a parent,
I want to protect the children.
766
00:39:04,542 --> 00:39:06,358
William: Back then,
20 years ago,
767
00:39:06,558 --> 00:39:08,554
people would be
utterly appalled
768
00:39:08,754 --> 00:39:10,750
if they knew exactly
what went on.
769
00:39:11,792 --> 00:39:13,800
Por favor?
770
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,458
William: I think it was an industry
that lost its way quite heavily,
771
00:39:17,658 --> 00:39:19,300
lost its sense of decency,
772
00:39:19,500 --> 00:39:23,291
lost its perspective
on what was appropriate.
773
00:39:26,417 --> 00:39:27,963
Photographer: Madam.
774
00:39:28,163 --> 00:39:29,709
Photographer 2:
Please.
775
00:39:29,909 --> 00:39:30,509
Madam!
776
00:39:30,709 --> 00:39:32,217
Please. I want to take... No.
Back up.
777
00:39:32,417 --> 00:39:35,875
William: If you are the Princess
of Wales and you're a mother,
778
00:39:36,075 --> 00:39:39,125
I don't believe being chased
by 30 guys on motorbikes
779
00:39:39,325 --> 00:39:40,342
who block your path,
780
00:39:40,542 --> 00:39:42,383
who spit at you,
who shout at you,
781
00:39:42,583 --> 00:39:46,333
and who react really badly
to get a reaction from you,
782
00:39:46,533 --> 00:39:48,050
um, and make a woman cry
783
00:39:48,250 --> 00:39:50,712
in public
to get the photographs,
784
00:39:50,912 --> 00:39:53,175
I don't believe
that is appropriate.
785
00:39:53,375 --> 00:39:57,125
I sadly remember, most of the time
that she ever cried about anything
786
00:39:57,325 --> 00:39:59,125
was to do with
press intrusion.
787
00:39:59,325 --> 00:40:00,896
Diana:
Out! Out!
788
00:40:01,096 --> 00:40:02,667
Man:
Out! Out! Out!
789
00:40:04,125 --> 00:40:05,425
Out!
790
00:40:05,625 --> 00:40:07,175
Out!
O-U-T, out!
791
00:40:07,375 --> 00:40:09,333
Photographer:
Have a nice trip, guys.
792
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,800
William: Harry and I, you know,
we lived through that.
793
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,959
And one lesson I've learnt,
is you never let them in too far,
794
00:40:17,159 --> 00:40:20,458
because it's very difficult
to get them back out again.
795
00:40:20,658 --> 00:40:23,229
And you've got to maintain
796
00:40:23,429 --> 00:40:25,800
a barrier and a boundary,
797
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,959
because if you cross it,
if both sides cross it,
798
00:40:29,159 --> 00:40:29,800
um,
799
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,542
a lot of pain and problems
can come from it.
800
00:40:33,959 --> 00:40:36,208
♪ ♪
801
00:40:41,834 --> 00:40:43,921
Narrator:
In August, 1996,
802
00:40:44,121 --> 00:40:46,008
after 15 years of marriage,
803
00:40:46,208 --> 00:40:49,291
the Prince and Princess
of Wales divorced.
804
00:40:51,375 --> 00:40:54,792
Diana was free to shape
a new life for herself.
805
00:41:01,625 --> 00:41:04,500
Anne Beckwith-Smith:
Once the divorce had come through,
806
00:41:04,700 --> 00:41:06,634
the few times I saw her,
807
00:41:06,834 --> 00:41:09,041
she seemed to be
at a better place.
808
00:41:09,241 --> 00:41:11,875
Um, I think she was happier.
809
00:41:12,075 --> 00:41:13,342
♪ ♪
810
00:41:13,542 --> 00:41:17,250
Once she was no longer
a member of the royal family,
811
00:41:17,450 --> 00:41:20,208
she, I think, just felt
a sense of freedom.
812
00:41:22,041 --> 00:41:24,834
She was a very, very
attractive woman.
813
00:41:26,208 --> 00:41:28,917
And she really loved
looking good.
814
00:41:33,250 --> 00:41:34,550
She was free as a bird,
815
00:41:34,750 --> 00:41:37,250
and I think she looked
rather amazing.
816
00:41:37,450 --> 00:41:39,083
♪ ♪
817
00:41:42,250 --> 00:41:44,875
William: My mother loved her fashion,
she loved her clothes,
818
00:41:45,075 --> 00:41:48,091
but she wasn't
a slave to it.
819
00:41:48,291 --> 00:41:50,050
I remember walking
around her cupboards,
820
00:41:50,250 --> 00:41:51,966
and there were just so many
dresses and so many clothes,
821
00:41:52,166 --> 00:41:54,875
and she got so fed up with all
these clothes in her cupboards,
822
00:41:55,075 --> 00:41:55,966
believe it or not.
823
00:41:56,166 --> 00:41:58,441
And I said,
"Why don't you give these clothes away?
824
00:41:58,641 --> 00:42:00,917
Why don't you do something
charitable with it?"
825
00:42:02,166 --> 00:42:04,333
Auctioneer:
How much for this?
826
00:42:04,533 --> 00:42:05,634
Nineteen
thousand here.
827
00:42:05,834 --> 00:42:08,713
Against you in the gallery at 19,000,
the bid's here.
828
00:42:08,913 --> 00:42:11,792
Narrator:
Diana auctioned off dozens of her dresses...
829
00:42:11,992 --> 00:42:13,175
Auctioneer:
Twenty-five thousand.
830
00:42:13,375 --> 00:42:16,583
Narrator: ...raising millions of
dollars for AIDS and cancer charities.
831
00:42:16,783 --> 00:42:19,083
Auctioneer:
Hundred thirty-thousand.
832
00:42:19,283 --> 00:42:21,458
One seventy-five.
833
00:42:23,792 --> 00:42:27,125
I knew she was going to say that!
Two hundred thousand.
834
00:42:31,625 --> 00:42:33,925
William:
And I remember her showing me the catalog
835
00:42:34,125 --> 00:42:36,333
and everything else about it and saying,
"This was your idea."
836
00:42:36,533 --> 00:42:38,458
And I was like,
"Well, I had a good idea."
837
00:42:39,542 --> 00:42:42,083
So, it was nice to see it
come to fruition.
838
00:42:43,625 --> 00:42:44,966
Narrator:
The sale of her dresses
839
00:42:45,166 --> 00:42:47,959
marked a new chapter
in the princess's life.
840
00:42:49,458 --> 00:42:52,208
From now on,
she would force the press
841
00:42:52,408 --> 00:42:54,333
to focus on what she did
842
00:42:54,533 --> 00:42:56,258
and not on what she wore.
843
00:42:56,458 --> 00:42:58,566
Harry: She put her name,
and put her image,
844
00:42:58,766 --> 00:43:00,875
and put her passion
and energy into something
845
00:43:01,075 --> 00:43:03,166
that she genuinely
believed in.
846
00:43:03,366 --> 00:43:05,354
And she knew
that by doing that,
847
00:43:05,554 --> 00:43:07,542
it was going to have
a ripple effect
848
00:43:07,742 --> 00:43:09,166
across the whole world.
849
00:43:13,500 --> 00:43:15,500
♪ ♪
850
00:43:19,208 --> 00:43:21,133
Narrator:
In August 1997,
851
00:43:21,333 --> 00:43:24,041
only three weeks
before she died,
852
00:43:24,241 --> 00:43:26,375
Diana arrived in Bosnia.
853
00:43:29,667 --> 00:43:31,875
The country
had been torn apart
854
00:43:32,075 --> 00:43:33,792
by a brutal civil war.
855
00:43:35,500 --> 00:43:38,900
With a million land mines
still lurking underground,
856
00:43:39,100 --> 00:43:42,500
it was one of the most
dangerous places on Earth.
857
00:43:44,417 --> 00:43:46,175
Diana's guides in Bosnia
858
00:43:46,375 --> 00:43:49,208
were two committed
land mine activists.
859
00:43:51,333 --> 00:43:53,917
Jerry White:
The willingness to take such a crazy risk
860
00:43:54,117 --> 00:43:55,342
on these two American,
861
00:43:55,542 --> 00:43:57,592
you know, legless cowboys...
862
00:43:57,792 --> 00:44:00,041
We have one leg
between the both of us...
863
00:44:00,241 --> 00:44:01,217
who didn't have, you know,
864
00:44:01,417 --> 00:44:04,258
two sheckles
to rub together in Bosnia.
865
00:44:04,458 --> 00:44:06,750
I wouldn't have recommended
that she go with us.
866
00:44:08,208 --> 00:44:10,041
But she chose it.
867
00:44:11,208 --> 00:44:12,883
I wasn't to tell anyone
868
00:44:13,083 --> 00:44:15,717
about the upcoming
visit to Bosnia,
869
00:44:15,917 --> 00:44:18,542
not even the embassy,
not even your ambassadors,
870
00:44:18,742 --> 00:44:19,875
no one would know.
871
00:44:21,500 --> 00:44:24,208
Ken Rutherford: It was not an easy trip,
it was rigorous.
872
00:44:25,166 --> 00:44:27,149
It was in
a depressing environment
873
00:44:27,349 --> 00:44:29,333
in the post-conflict
area of Bosnia.
874
00:44:30,417 --> 00:44:33,417
And she was,
morning to night,
875
00:44:33,617 --> 00:44:35,583
visiting survivors.
876
00:44:37,041 --> 00:44:40,000
Jerry White:
Most people want to get away from pain,
877
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:41,217
they can't listen to pain,
878
00:44:41,417 --> 00:44:44,625
they can't be fully present
in the presence of pain,
879
00:44:44,825 --> 00:44:47,583
and the Princess of Wales
could be there.
880
00:44:48,750 --> 00:44:50,217
Narrator:
While she was in Bosnia,
881
00:44:50,417 --> 00:44:53,583
Diana met some of the younger
victims of the conflict.
882
00:44:53,783 --> 00:44:55,841
Like 12 year old Zarko,
883
00:44:56,041 --> 00:44:58,941
who'd lost his leg after
stepping on a land mine.
884
00:44:59,141 --> 00:45:02,041
They keep me on my toes.
They are quite naughty.
885
00:45:35,959 --> 00:45:39,050
Narrator:
Malic was 15 when he met Diana.
886
00:45:39,250 --> 00:45:42,959
He'd also lost his leg
after stepping on a land mine.
887
00:47:03,667 --> 00:47:08,837
Narrator: Diana's Bosnian visit
was part of a wider campaign.
888
00:47:09,037 --> 00:47:14,208
Behind the scenes,
she was pushing for a global land mine ban.
889
00:47:14,408 --> 00:47:18,395
About a month ago,
I found a whole series of letters,
890
00:47:18,595 --> 00:47:22,583
uh, letters that she was
supposed to top and tail,
891
00:47:22,783 --> 00:47:24,687
that were dated
the 31st of August.
892
00:47:24,887 --> 00:47:26,792
They were sitting
on her desk here.
893
00:47:28,583 --> 00:47:30,883
She knew exactly
what needed to be done.
894
00:47:31,083 --> 00:47:32,775
She was writing letters
to certain people to say,
895
00:47:32,975 --> 00:47:34,467
right, you know,
this is what needs to happen
896
00:47:34,667 --> 00:47:37,875
in order for this whole,
sort of, tidal wave to change.
897
00:47:38,075 --> 00:47:40,050
And it's only recently
over the years
898
00:47:40,250 --> 00:47:42,625
that I've actually really
understood the effect
899
00:47:42,825 --> 00:47:44,687
that she was having
in those areas,
900
00:47:44,887 --> 00:47:46,750
and on an international
scale as well.
901
00:47:48,166 --> 00:47:51,333
Narrator:
Three months after Diana's visit to Bosnia,
902
00:47:51,533 --> 00:47:53,458
an international treaty
was signed
903
00:47:53,658 --> 00:47:56,258
outlawing land mines.
904
00:47:56,458 --> 00:48:00,509
It was, perhaps,
her greatest achievement.
905
00:48:00,709 --> 00:48:04,792
She had the ability
to literally change a mindset
906
00:48:04,992 --> 00:48:07,291
of millions upon millions
of people.
907
00:48:07,491 --> 00:48:09,291
♪ ♪
908
00:48:13,583 --> 00:48:15,675
Hi, guys.
909
00:48:15,875 --> 00:48:18,091
It's a leprechaun.
910
00:48:18,291 --> 00:48:20,191
You look like
naughty school children.
911
00:48:20,391 --> 00:48:22,291
Hi. Ken Rutherford.
Nice to meet you.
912
00:48:22,491 --> 00:48:23,342
Very nice to meet you.
913
00:48:23,542 --> 00:48:25,750
Narrator:
Prince Harry has invited Ken,
914
00:48:25,950 --> 00:48:27,687
Jerry, Jarko and Malic
915
00:48:27,887 --> 00:48:29,425
to Kensington Palace
916
00:48:29,625 --> 00:48:32,959
to share their memories
of Diana's Bosnian visit.
917
00:48:33,159 --> 00:48:35,667
So you guys, I mean,
this was it,
918
00:48:35,867 --> 00:48:37,008
20... 20 years ago.
919
00:48:37,208 --> 00:48:40,166
Ken Rutherford: This is a reunion.
You both still look the same.
920
00:48:41,500 --> 00:48:42,300
"Ish."
921
00:48:42,500 --> 00:48:45,717
You maybe have
a little less hair.
922
00:48:45,917 --> 00:48:48,550
You guys were almost the last
people to see my mother.
923
00:48:48,750 --> 00:48:51,417
Well, you saw my mother more
recently than I did, I guess.
924
00:48:51,617 --> 00:48:54,458
Was it quite strange for
the two of you to have a...
925
00:48:54,658 --> 00:48:57,062
to have a princess
like that come and...
926
00:48:57,262 --> 00:48:59,864
to come and show
an interest in your lives
927
00:49:00,064 --> 00:49:02,667
and within Bosnia,
the land mine issue?
928
00:49:06,333 --> 00:49:10,500
She was the only light at the
end of the tunnel for us.
929
00:49:14,333 --> 00:49:16,125
Translator:
I remember her sentence...
930
00:49:17,333 --> 00:49:19,375
...before she left.
931
00:49:20,667 --> 00:49:22,800
Translator:
She said...
932
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,917
you are not
going to be forgotten.
933
00:49:27,083 --> 00:49:28,675
And that was
important to him.
934
00:49:28,875 --> 00:49:31,375
And that stuck in your head
forever?
935
00:49:36,041 --> 00:49:40,542
Translator: Whenever I had hard times,
I remembered that sentence.
936
00:49:42,667 --> 00:49:46,208
Narrator: On the 20th anniversary
of Diana's visit to Bosnia,
937
00:49:46,408 --> 00:49:50,208
Prince Harry is finishing
the work his mother began.
938
00:49:50,408 --> 00:49:52,258
He's launching
a new campaign
939
00:49:52,458 --> 00:49:55,425
to destroy
every remaining land mine.
940
00:49:55,625 --> 00:49:59,875
The attention my mother brought to
this issue wasn't about politics,
941
00:50:00,075 --> 00:50:01,592
it was about people.
942
00:50:01,792 --> 00:50:04,625
When my mother said goodbye
to Zarko that August,
943
00:50:04,825 --> 00:50:07,917
just weeks before
her untimely death,
944
00:50:08,875 --> 00:50:12,250
she told him
he would not be forgotten.
945
00:50:12,450 --> 00:50:15,417
Please,
help me keep her word
946
00:50:15,617 --> 00:50:17,550
to Zarko and Malic,
947
00:50:17,750 --> 00:50:20,709
and other people like them
throughout the world,
948
00:50:20,909 --> 00:50:24,750
who still need us
to finish the job.
949
00:50:24,950 --> 00:50:25,917
Thank you.
950
00:50:37,750 --> 00:50:40,542
♪ ♪
951
00:50:48,792 --> 00:50:51,192
Narrator:
During August 1997,
952
00:50:51,392 --> 00:50:53,592
Prince William
and Prince Harry
953
00:50:53,792 --> 00:50:56,417
were enjoying summer
in the Scottish Highlands.
954
00:50:59,792 --> 00:51:04,250
While their mother was away,
she constantly kept in touch.
955
00:51:06,208 --> 00:51:09,625
William: The very last memory
that I have is a phone call
956
00:51:09,825 --> 00:51:11,291
at Balmoral.
957
00:51:13,125 --> 00:51:14,675
At the time, Harry and I
were running around,
958
00:51:14,875 --> 00:51:17,125
minding our own business,
playing with our cousins,
959
00:51:17,325 --> 00:51:18,509
and having
a very good time.
960
00:51:18,709 --> 00:51:22,208
As a kid, I never enjoyed speaking
to my parents on the phone.
961
00:51:22,408 --> 00:51:25,375
Um, and we spent far too much
time speaking on the phone
962
00:51:25,575 --> 00:51:26,509
rather than speaking
to each other
963
00:51:26,709 --> 00:51:29,291
because of just the way
the situation was.
964
00:51:29,491 --> 00:51:31,217
And the phone rang
965
00:51:31,417 --> 00:51:34,800
and off he went to go and speak
to her sort of for five minutes.
966
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,750
And I think Harry and I were just
in a desperate rush to say goodbye,
967
00:51:37,950 --> 00:51:40,300
you know, see you later,
and we're going to go off,
968
00:51:40,500 --> 00:51:42,500
and if I'd known now, obviously,
what was going to happen,
969
00:51:42,700 --> 00:51:44,834
I wouldn't have been
so blasé about it
970
00:51:45,034 --> 00:51:46,008
and everything else.
971
00:51:46,208 --> 00:51:48,583
But, um, that phone call
sticks in my mind
972
00:51:48,783 --> 00:51:50,634
quite... quite heavily.
973
00:51:50,834 --> 00:51:52,917
Director:
Do you remember what she said?
974
00:51:53,117 --> 00:51:55,000
I do. I do.
975
00:51:57,166 --> 00:52:00,125
And then, "Harry, Harry,
Mummy's on the phone."
976
00:52:00,325 --> 00:52:01,966
Right, my turn...
...off I go.
977
00:52:02,166 --> 00:52:05,000
You know, pick up the phone,
and it was...
978
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,709
and it was her
speaking from Paris,
979
00:52:07,909 --> 00:52:09,675
and, you know,
she...
980
00:52:09,875 --> 00:52:12,166
I can't really necessarily
remember what I said,
981
00:52:12,366 --> 00:52:13,966
but all I do remember is...
982
00:52:14,166 --> 00:52:16,709
is probably, you know,
regretting for the rest of my life
983
00:52:16,909 --> 00:52:18,342
how short
the phone call was.
984
00:52:18,542 --> 00:52:21,667
And if I'd known that that was the last
time I was going to speak to my mother,
985
00:52:21,867 --> 00:52:24,041
the things I would...
the things I would have said to her.
986
00:52:26,041 --> 00:52:28,542
Looking back on it now,
it's incredibly hard.
987
00:52:30,333 --> 00:52:34,166
I have... I have to sort of deal
with that for the rest of my life.
988
00:52:34,366 --> 00:52:35,875
Not knowing that
that was the last time
989
00:52:36,075 --> 00:52:37,841
I was going to speak
to my mum,
990
00:52:38,041 --> 00:52:40,667
and how differently that
conversation would have panned out
991
00:52:40,867 --> 00:52:43,342
if I'd had even
the slightest inkling
992
00:52:43,542 --> 00:52:46,709
that that was... you know, that her
life was going to be taken that night.
993
00:52:52,417 --> 00:52:55,000
Reporter:
The princess was taken to intensive care
994
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:56,550
following a car crash.
995
00:52:56,750 --> 00:52:58,709
Reporter 2:
The press association announced
996
00:52:58,909 --> 00:53:00,966
with a newsflash at 4:41
997
00:53:01,166 --> 00:53:02,759
that Diana, Princess of Wales,
998
00:53:02,959 --> 00:53:05,542
has died,
according to British sources.
999
00:53:07,709 --> 00:53:10,583
♪ ♪
1000
00:53:19,750 --> 00:53:23,458
Victor Adebowale: The strangest
thing was the thousands of people,
1001
00:53:23,658 --> 00:53:26,417
hundreds of thousands
of people,
1002
00:53:26,617 --> 00:53:29,542
that spontaneously gathered
1003
00:53:29,742 --> 00:53:31,417
in central London.
1004
00:53:33,250 --> 00:53:34,550
I've never seen
anything like it,
1005
00:53:34,750 --> 00:53:37,458
and I don't expect to see
anything like it.
1006
00:53:40,208 --> 00:53:44,917
People wanted to actually
physically be near her.
1007
00:53:45,117 --> 00:53:46,834
♪ ♪
1008
00:53:48,583 --> 00:53:51,383
And I think
that was because
1009
00:53:51,583 --> 00:53:54,592
her humanity spoke
to their humanity,
1010
00:53:54,792 --> 00:53:58,583
regardless of...
of the difference in class,
1011
00:53:58,783 --> 00:54:01,675
the difference
in life experience.
1012
00:54:01,875 --> 00:54:04,583
They saw something
of themselves in her.
1013
00:54:10,792 --> 00:54:12,966
Harry: It was very,
very strange, after her death,
1014
00:54:13,166 --> 00:54:16,542
you know, the...
sort of the outpouring of love and emotion,
1015
00:54:16,742 --> 00:54:19,959
from so many people that
had never even met her.
1016
00:54:20,159 --> 00:54:21,542
And there was William
and I walking around
1017
00:54:21,742 --> 00:54:23,709
Kensington Palace
Gardens here,
1018
00:54:23,909 --> 00:54:25,841
and the sea of flowers
1019
00:54:26,041 --> 00:54:27,634
all the way from
the Palace gates,
1020
00:54:27,834 --> 00:54:30,834
all the way back
to Kensington High Street.
1021
00:54:35,375 --> 00:54:36,966
And I was thinking
to myself,
1022
00:54:37,166 --> 00:54:39,625
how is it that so many people
that never met this woman...
1023
00:54:39,825 --> 00:54:40,883
my mother...
1024
00:54:41,083 --> 00:54:44,166
can be crying
and showing more emotion
1025
00:54:44,366 --> 00:54:46,709
than I actually am feeling?
1026
00:54:48,667 --> 00:54:51,208
William:
There's nothing like it in the world,
1027
00:54:51,408 --> 00:54:52,841
there really isn't.
1028
00:54:53,041 --> 00:54:55,175
It's completely and utterly...
1029
00:54:55,375 --> 00:54:57,709
It's like an earthquake's
just run through the house,
1030
00:54:57,909 --> 00:54:59,709
and through your life
and everything.
1031
00:54:59,909 --> 00:55:01,258
It's just... it's...
1032
00:55:01,458 --> 00:55:03,759
Your mind
is completely split.
1033
00:55:03,959 --> 00:55:06,542
Um... and it took me
a while to actually...
1034
00:55:06,742 --> 00:55:08,208
for it to sink in.
1035
00:55:32,583 --> 00:55:36,208
Narrator: Prince William was 15
years old when his mother died.
1036
00:55:38,542 --> 00:55:41,458
Prince Harry was only 12.
1037
00:55:44,709 --> 00:55:47,083
You know, losing someone
so close to you
1038
00:55:47,283 --> 00:55:49,229
is utterly devastating,
1039
00:55:49,429 --> 00:55:51,375
especially at that age.
1040
00:55:54,709 --> 00:55:57,125
I think it sort of really...
1041
00:55:57,325 --> 00:55:58,417
spins you out.
1042
00:55:59,834 --> 00:56:01,546
You don't quite know
where you are,
1043
00:56:01,746 --> 00:56:03,458
what you're doing
and what's going on.
1044
00:56:04,750 --> 00:56:06,917
♪ ♪
1045
00:56:27,250 --> 00:56:29,050
William:
The family came together, um,
1046
00:56:29,250 --> 00:56:31,959
and Harry and I tried to talk
as best we could about it,
1047
00:56:32,159 --> 00:56:34,375
but being so small
at that age,
1048
00:56:34,575 --> 00:56:35,342
it's very difficult to...
1049
00:56:35,542 --> 00:56:38,417
to communicate
or understand your feelings.
1050
00:56:38,617 --> 00:56:40,291
It's... It's very complicated.
1051
00:56:40,491 --> 00:56:41,959
♪ ♪
1052
00:56:44,792 --> 00:56:48,379
Narrator:
After the service in Westminster Abbey,
1053
00:56:48,579 --> 00:56:52,166
Diana's body was taken
to her family home at Althorp.
1054
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,458
There, on an island in the
middle of Round Oval Lake,
1055
00:56:58,658 --> 00:57:00,500
she was laid to rest.
1056
00:57:00,700 --> 00:57:03,041
♪ ♪
1057
00:57:18,125 --> 00:57:19,800
The first time I cried was...
1058
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,358
was at the funeral
on the island,
1059
00:57:22,558 --> 00:57:24,845
and that was
probably, like...
1060
00:57:25,045 --> 00:57:27,133
and only since then,
maybe once.
1061
00:57:27,333 --> 00:57:29,467
So, there's a, you know,
there's a lot of grief
1062
00:57:29,667 --> 00:57:32,625
that still needs to be...
... to be let out.
1063
00:57:33,792 --> 00:57:35,667
♪ ♪
1064
00:57:51,834 --> 00:57:54,171
William: Slowly,
you try and rebuild your life
1065
00:57:54,371 --> 00:57:56,709
and you try and understand
what's happened, and...
1066
00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:59,650
I kept saying to myself
that, you know,
1067
00:57:59,850 --> 00:58:01,300
my mother would not
want me to be upset,
1068
00:58:01,500 --> 00:58:04,875
she'd not want me to be down,
she'd not want me to be like this.
1069
00:58:05,075 --> 00:58:07,292
Um, I kept myself
busy as well,
1070
00:58:07,492 --> 00:58:09,509
which is good
and bad sometimes,
1071
00:58:09,709 --> 00:58:13,875
but allows you to kind of get
through that initial shock phase.
1072
00:58:14,075 --> 00:58:16,091
Um, and to the point where,
1073
00:58:16,291 --> 00:58:19,500
I'd say, you know,
we're talking as much as maybe...
1074
00:58:19,700 --> 00:58:21,667
five to seven years
afterwards.
1075
00:58:21,867 --> 00:58:23,250
♪ ♪
1076
00:58:24,583 --> 00:58:28,000
Harry: I was so young,
I grew up sort of thinking
1077
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,250
that not having a mum
was normal.
1078
00:58:31,291 --> 00:58:33,175
I think it was
a classic case of,
1079
00:58:33,375 --> 00:58:35,917
"Don't let yourself
think about your mum
1080
00:58:36,117 --> 00:58:39,417
"and the grief
and the hurt
1081
00:58:39,617 --> 00:58:40,841
"that comes with it,
1082
00:58:41,041 --> 00:58:42,795
"because it's never gonna
bring her back,
1083
00:58:42,995 --> 00:58:44,750
and it's only gonna
make you more sad."
1084
00:58:50,417 --> 00:58:52,709
People deal with grief
in different ways...
1085
00:58:53,750 --> 00:58:55,550
and my way of dealing
with it was...
1086
00:58:55,750 --> 00:58:58,750
was by just basically shutting it out,
locking it out.
1087
00:59:01,834 --> 00:59:03,734
The ten years
that I was in the army,
1088
00:59:03,934 --> 00:59:05,929
I just sort of dug
my head in the sand
1089
00:59:06,129 --> 00:59:07,925
and was just...
it was just white noise.
1090
00:59:08,125 --> 00:59:10,667
I went through a whole period
of having to try to
1091
00:59:10,867 --> 00:59:12,625
sort my...
sort myself out.
1092
00:59:12,825 --> 00:59:14,291
♪ ♪
1093
00:59:16,959 --> 00:59:18,692
William:
My heart goes out to all the people
1094
00:59:18,892 --> 00:59:20,625
who have lost all their
loved ones in the world.
1095
00:59:21,709 --> 00:59:23,400
You know,
it does connect you.
1096
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:25,091
It's a very sad club...
1097
00:59:25,291 --> 00:59:26,750
...you don't want
to be a member of.
1098
00:59:26,950 --> 00:59:29,217
But you do have a shared...
1099
00:59:29,417 --> 00:59:32,041
a shared sort of pain that you
can immediately understand
1100
00:59:32,241 --> 00:59:34,166
and see in anyone
when you meet them.
1101
00:59:40,375 --> 00:59:43,583
Narrator:
Talking about the loss of parents or children
1102
00:59:43,783 --> 00:59:46,125
is one of the last
great taboos.
1103
00:59:47,333 --> 00:59:48,759
But poignantly,
1104
00:59:48,959 --> 00:59:50,675
in the years before she died,
1105
00:59:50,875 --> 00:59:53,542
Diana became one of the first
public figures
1106
00:59:53,742 --> 00:59:55,271
to engage with these issues
1107
00:59:55,471 --> 00:59:57,115
when one of her best friends
1108
00:59:57,315 --> 00:59:58,959
launched a bereavement charity.
1109
01:00:01,083 --> 01:00:04,333
Julia Samuel:
When Child Bereavement UK was founded,
1110
01:00:04,533 --> 01:00:05,217
Diana,
1111
01:00:05,417 --> 01:00:07,375
as an act of friendship,
1112
01:00:07,575 --> 01:00:08,841
she did many things
1113
01:00:09,041 --> 01:00:11,500
that really supported me,
personally.
1114
01:00:13,333 --> 01:00:15,175
Julia Samuel:
Good afternoon.
1115
01:00:15,375 --> 01:00:18,542
I hadn't made many speeches,
and I was really nervous,
1116
01:00:18,742 --> 01:00:21,166
and so she helped me
with my speech.
1117
01:00:21,366 --> 01:00:22,550
The Child Bereavement Trust
1118
01:00:22,750 --> 01:00:26,125
will address problems that
affect many people's lives.
1119
01:00:26,325 --> 01:00:28,634
Julia Samuel:
And she came to our launch,
1120
01:00:28,834 --> 01:00:32,171
and of course it meant that we were
in every newspaper, on the news.
1121
01:00:32,371 --> 01:00:35,709
And it gave us the best possible
launch we could ever have had.
1122
01:00:37,291 --> 01:00:40,966
She had a very natural
gift of empathy.
1123
01:00:41,166 --> 01:00:45,417
Just by looking at someone,
she'd have an idea of what they were feeling.
1124
01:00:45,617 --> 01:00:48,542
And actually I see that
with the Duke of Cambridge.
1125
01:00:49,500 --> 01:00:50,925
Hello.
Hello.
1126
01:00:51,125 --> 01:00:55,041
He has a depth of understanding
through his own experience
1127
01:00:55,241 --> 01:00:57,083
that connects
with other people.
1128
01:00:59,083 --> 01:01:00,342
Narrator:
Prince William has continued
1129
01:01:00,542 --> 01:01:03,588
his mother's relationship
with the charity,
1130
01:01:03,788 --> 01:01:06,634
becoming Patron
of Child Bereavement UK.
1131
01:01:06,834 --> 01:01:10,291
I strongly believe that everyone wants
to help, they just don't know how to.
1132
01:01:10,491 --> 01:01:12,750
And they usually end up,
pretty much just stumbling a bit,
1133
01:01:12,950 --> 01:01:14,133
and then just stay quiet,
1134
01:01:14,333 --> 01:01:16,542
which is sometimes the worst thing
you can do. Woman: Oh, yeah.
1135
01:01:16,742 --> 01:01:19,966
I was pregnant
with our second daughter,
1136
01:01:20,166 --> 01:01:23,458
um, and I went to a routine
38-week antenatal appointment,
1137
01:01:23,658 --> 01:01:26,383
and, um,
and they found no heartbeat.
1138
01:01:26,583 --> 01:01:29,750
Um... gosh, sorry. Already.
Oh, no. Don't worry.
1139
01:01:31,500 --> 01:01:34,542
Narrator: Emily's baby,
Abbie, was stillborn.
1140
01:01:36,208 --> 01:01:40,583
John's daughter, Rosie,
died when she was 19.
1141
01:01:40,783 --> 01:01:43,020
At the moment
we're talking about
1142
01:01:43,220 --> 01:01:45,458
what do we do
with Rosie's ashes.
1143
01:01:45,658 --> 01:01:46,800
We've still got those.
1144
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,166
It's hard to totally let go,
as well, isn't it?
1145
01:01:49,366 --> 01:01:50,883
It's very hard
to let go.
1146
01:01:51,083 --> 01:01:53,837
I always think that how you
come out of bereavement,
1147
01:01:54,037 --> 01:01:56,501
how you come out of grief,
it's a real defining moment.
1148
01:01:56,701 --> 01:01:58,966
It doesn't go away, it never goes away.
No, no, no.
1149
01:01:59,166 --> 01:02:01,417
But you learn to deal with it.
You make it part of your life
1150
01:02:01,617 --> 01:02:03,342
in a way that's right
and good
1151
01:02:03,542 --> 01:02:05,858
and in the best way that you can.
Absolutely.
1152
01:02:06,058 --> 01:02:08,325
Woman: John and Emily,
thank you so much.
1153
01:02:08,525 --> 01:02:10,975
Thank you.
It's really, really appreciated.
1154
01:02:11,175 --> 01:02:13,625
And it's so brave to be...
for you two to be
1155
01:02:13,825 --> 01:02:15,800
as open and as
articulate as you are.
1156
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:19,083
Keep the memories alive. That's the thing,
isn't it? John: Keep the memories alive.
1157
01:02:19,283 --> 01:02:21,291
Emily: Yeah.
John: Mm.
1158
01:02:21,491 --> 01:02:23,291
♪ ♪
1159
01:02:27,542 --> 01:02:30,983
Narrator:
On the 20th anniversary of Diana's death,
1160
01:02:31,183 --> 01:02:34,625
a special garden has been
created at Kensington Palace
1161
01:02:34,825 --> 01:02:37,834
to celebrate
her life and legacy.
1162
01:02:39,125 --> 01:02:41,667
Graham Dillamore
was a young gardener
1163
01:02:41,867 --> 01:02:44,729
when he began
working for Diana.
1164
01:02:44,929 --> 01:02:47,592
We're all very lucky
to know her,
1165
01:02:47,792 --> 01:02:51,333
work with her,
and be here at that time.
1166
01:02:52,542 --> 01:02:55,250
For me, personally,
1167
01:02:55,450 --> 01:02:56,425
this is, uh,
1168
01:02:56,625 --> 01:02:58,667
where I'll always
remember her.
1169
01:02:59,709 --> 01:03:01,800
We were looking
at images of Diana
1170
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,129
and the whites and creams
and those pastel shades
1171
01:03:05,329 --> 01:03:08,458
seemed to sort of,
jump out at us a bit on the page,
1172
01:03:08,658 --> 01:03:09,800
and we thought we could
1173
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:13,458
maybe develop a scheme that could...
that could capture that,
1174
01:03:13,658 --> 01:03:15,458
and would look really,
really nice.
1175
01:03:17,375 --> 01:03:19,509
And they got taller
than I thought...
1176
01:03:19,709 --> 01:03:21,667
Graham Dillamore: You can see,
we've got the foxgloves
1177
01:03:21,867 --> 01:03:23,500
coming into flower now,
1178
01:03:23,700 --> 01:03:25,133
which are wonderful.
1179
01:03:25,333 --> 01:03:28,083
And we're planting
these gorgeous white lilies.
1180
01:03:28,283 --> 01:03:31,062
And then we've got
these super,
1181
01:03:31,262 --> 01:03:34,041
fantastic,
kind of creamy roses.
1182
01:03:38,709 --> 01:03:41,383
Seeing the two boys
when they were little,
1183
01:03:41,583 --> 01:03:43,625
in the private garden,
throwing a rugby ball around
1184
01:03:43,825 --> 01:03:45,208
or kicking a football
into the roses,
1185
01:03:45,408 --> 01:03:47,675
it was great to see.
1186
01:03:47,875 --> 01:03:50,917
And it reminded me of my own
garden at home with my kids.
1187
01:03:52,417 --> 01:03:54,233
I'll always look back
on those days
1188
01:03:54,433 --> 01:03:56,250
with really great,
happy memories.
1189
01:04:01,542 --> 01:04:05,291
Harry Herbert:
When you see the boys, funny enough,
1190
01:04:05,491 --> 01:04:08,083
for me,
that brings her back.
1191
01:04:09,083 --> 01:04:11,024
It makes me smile when you
1192
01:04:11,224 --> 01:04:12,966
turn on the telly and...
1193
01:04:13,166 --> 01:04:16,500
see that Harry's been
a bit wicked doing something.
1194
01:04:16,700 --> 01:04:17,883
That's great,
1195
01:04:18,083 --> 01:04:20,000
because that's Diana.
1196
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,050
And you see,
1197
01:04:22,250 --> 01:04:25,504
you know,
you see William's smile,
1198
01:04:25,704 --> 01:04:28,959
or you see the way
that they react
1199
01:04:29,159 --> 01:04:31,208
to... to people.
1200
01:04:32,250 --> 01:04:33,675
And...
1201
01:04:33,875 --> 01:04:35,291
that's their mother.
1202
01:04:35,491 --> 01:04:36,792
♪ ♪
1203
01:04:39,250 --> 01:04:41,291
William van Straubenzee:
People used to say to me,
1204
01:04:41,491 --> 01:04:44,300
"Were you ever
in love with Diana?"
1205
01:04:44,500 --> 01:04:47,959
And my answer is,
"Of course I was in love with Diana."
1206
01:04:48,159 --> 01:04:50,500
Everybody in the world
was in love with Diana.
1207
01:04:50,700 --> 01:04:53,800
I mean, every person,
of every age group
1208
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:58,458
of any sex or denomination
or anything that knew of her,
1209
01:04:58,658 --> 01:04:59,792
was in love with her.
1210
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:06,458
She was just
an extraordinary person.
1211
01:05:06,658 --> 01:05:08,959
♪ ♪
1212
01:05:19,542 --> 01:05:22,004
Narrator:
In the years since Diana died,
1213
01:05:22,204 --> 01:05:24,667
two of her grandchildren
have been born.
1214
01:05:26,875 --> 01:05:29,875
Director:
How do you keep her memory alive
1215
01:05:30,075 --> 01:05:31,792
for your children?
1216
01:05:33,166 --> 01:05:35,834
I think constantly talking
about "Granny Diana."
1217
01:05:37,125 --> 01:05:38,300
Um, so,
1218
01:05:38,500 --> 01:05:41,166
we've got more photos up
around the house now of her,
1219
01:05:41,366 --> 01:05:42,800
and we talk about her a bit,
and stuff.
1220
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,333
It's hard because, obviously,
Katherine didn't know her,
1221
01:05:45,533 --> 01:05:47,667
so she cannot
really provide that...
1222
01:05:47,867 --> 01:05:49,354
that level of detail.
1223
01:05:49,554 --> 01:05:50,841
So I do, regularly,
1224
01:05:51,041 --> 01:05:53,041
putting George or Charlotte
to bed, talk about her,
1225
01:05:53,241 --> 01:05:55,500
and just try
and remind them that, um,
1226
01:05:55,700 --> 01:05:56,759
there are two grandmothers...
1227
01:05:56,959 --> 01:05:59,213
there were two grandmothers...
in their lives,
1228
01:05:59,413 --> 01:06:01,667
and so it's important
that they know who she was
1229
01:06:01,867 --> 01:06:03,750
and that she existed.
1230
01:06:05,959 --> 01:06:08,792
She'd be a nightmare grandmother,
absolute nightmare.
1231
01:06:08,992 --> 01:06:10,750
She'd love
the children to bits,
1232
01:06:10,950 --> 01:06:12,509
but she'd be
an absolute nightmare.
1233
01:06:12,709 --> 01:06:15,583
She'd come and go and she'd
come in probably at bath time,
1234
01:06:15,783 --> 01:06:17,509
cause an amazing
amount of scene,
1235
01:06:17,709 --> 01:06:20,500
bubbles everywhere,
bathwater all over the place,
1236
01:06:20,700 --> 01:06:22,208
and, um,
and then leave.
1237
01:06:22,408 --> 01:06:24,208
♪ ♪
1238
01:06:28,750 --> 01:06:30,525
I want to make
as much time and effort
1239
01:06:30,725 --> 01:06:32,300
with Charlotte
and George as I can,
1240
01:06:32,500 --> 01:06:34,542
because I realize that these early years,
particularly,
1241
01:06:34,742 --> 01:06:36,175
are crucial for children,
1242
01:06:36,375 --> 01:06:39,542
um, having seen, you know,
what she did for us.
1243
01:06:43,750 --> 01:06:46,342
♪ ♪
1244
01:06:46,542 --> 01:06:49,175
I find these ones
actually quite sweet.
1245
01:06:49,375 --> 01:06:51,583
Believe it or not,
you and I are both in this photograph.
1246
01:06:51,783 --> 01:06:53,008
Right.
1247
01:06:53,208 --> 01:06:54,792
You're in the tummy.
Oh, nice.
1248
01:06:54,992 --> 01:06:56,091
Yeah, exactly.
1249
01:06:56,291 --> 01:06:58,417
She wrote on it,
she said "W, Harry."
1250
01:06:58,617 --> 01:06:59,592
That's quite funny.
1251
01:06:59,792 --> 01:07:03,333
You, I mean, you potentially
look excited that you've got a,
1252
01:07:03,533 --> 01:07:05,258
at that point,
a brother or sister coming.
1253
01:07:05,458 --> 01:07:08,250
I think I as looking forward to
beating you up the moment you arrived.
1254
01:07:08,450 --> 01:07:10,062
I thought it was quite
a funny photograph.
1255
01:07:10,262 --> 01:07:11,875
She looks happy there, as well.
Yeah.
1256
01:07:14,959 --> 01:07:17,171
William:
Time spent with her.
1257
01:07:17,371 --> 01:07:19,383
The feeling of
having her around
1258
01:07:19,583 --> 01:07:21,800
and being loved as a family,
or as a son,
1259
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:25,208
I think those are the most precious
and special memories, to me.
1260
01:07:27,792 --> 01:07:31,041
Harry: It has been hard and
it will continue to be hard.
1261
01:07:31,241 --> 01:07:32,966
There's not a day
that William and I
1262
01:07:33,166 --> 01:07:36,458
don't wish that she was...
we don't wish that she was still around.
1263
01:07:36,658 --> 01:07:39,250
And we wonder what kind of
a mother she would be now,
1264
01:07:39,450 --> 01:07:40,916
and what kind of a public
role she would have,
1265
01:07:41,116 --> 01:07:42,583
and what a difference
she would be making.
1266
01:07:44,333 --> 01:07:46,795
William:
I think she would be proud that Harry and I
1267
01:07:46,995 --> 01:07:49,458
have managed to come through
everything that's happened,
1268
01:07:49,658 --> 01:07:50,467
having lost her.
1269
01:07:50,667 --> 01:07:54,091
And that gives me
positivity and strength
1270
01:07:54,291 --> 01:07:57,125
to know that I can face anything
the world can throw at me.
1271
01:07:59,333 --> 01:08:02,125
We felt, you know,
incredibly loved, Harry and I,
1272
01:08:02,325 --> 01:08:03,258
um, and...
1273
01:08:03,458 --> 01:08:04,925
I'm very grateful
that that
1274
01:08:05,125 --> 01:08:07,754
love still... still feels there,
even 20 years on.
1275
01:08:07,954 --> 01:08:10,583
And I think that's a huge
credit to her, that I...
1276
01:08:10,783 --> 01:08:13,000
I can...
I can still feel that now.
1277
01:08:14,041 --> 01:08:16,542
♪ ♪
1278
01:08:24,709 --> 01:08:27,333
♪ ♪
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