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Did you want to see the photographs?

Yeah.

So, during a mass casualty event,

uh, the patients were easily divided

into ones that were put in the ambulance that would live.

Um...

those that were alive when they were...

All patients who were put in the ambulance were alive.

And this first photograph

typifies the first round of kids

that you would quickly,

functionally eliminate from evaluation and...

I, I, yeah.

I feel like I'm gonna end up blurring it or not using it.

Why? That's the problem.

-Well... -No, that's the problem.

Okay, let's shoot it.

-Yeah. -Let's shoot it.

I mean, that shouldn't be...

Who are you offending?

I don't know. I want to protect the dignity of...

-Of who? -...these children.

No, I got permission from everyone

of their survivors to put these pictures up.

-All right. -Right?

You're not, uh, um,

-Israel took away their dignity. -Okay.

You're not dignifying them unless you let their memory...

Their bodies tell the story of this trauma,

of this genocide.

You're not doing them a service by not showing that.

This is what my tax dollars did.

That's what your tax dollars did.

That's what my neighbor's tax dollars did.

They have the right to know the truth.

You have the responsibility as I do to tell the truth.

You pixelate this, that's journalistic malpractice.

- Can we film it? - Yeah.

Well, this spring, American doctors

made the treacherous journey into Gaza

to try and offer their services in this desperate situation.

But what they found was far worse than they had expected.

What surprised me most

was how the carnage that was induced

really focused on children,

healthcare workers, and journalists.

That's quite an extreme allegation to make,

that these civilians were indeed targeted.

And, of course, CNN cannot independently verify

any of these allegations that you've just made.

You penned an article

inThe New York Times titled,

"65 Doctors and Nurses: What We Saw In Gaza."

What did you witness?

How can it possibly be,

that in every hospital in the Gaza Strip,

internationals have seen children

shot in the head on a regular,

if not, like in my case, a daily basis.

It's hard to believe that that's not intentional

on the part of the people doing the shooting.

If you can give us the latest.

What has the American Medical Association said?

Nothing.

And if you try to broach the subject,

what we're being told is that

this is a very politically charged

and polarizing topic. I reject that.

We're just asking that hospitals

not be targeted, that they not be bombed.

Hospitals need to be protected and functioning.

Why that sort of conversation is derailed

in the United States is beyond me.

But it's something that's no longer acceptable.

You are welcome. Oh, hi, how are you?

-Fine, thank you. -How are you?

Be safe at home, okay?

-Thank you. -Thank you.

No, no, I'm happy to help. Very happy to help.

- See you soon. - Thank you.

-Bye-bye. -Bye. Have a nice day.

Thank you.

I think the microwave is broken, yeah?

- Yeah. - Yeah.

Yeah.

Ah. Pus.

Ah-ha.

Uh-huh.

This is the source of...

Yeah, very likely.

Oh, this is very... Oh wow.

Oh. Put your finger right where my middle finger is,

it's right there.

- It's a very large hole. - Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

I think we can put a drain inside.

It's a very big hole.

Dr. Feroze.

Very good job.

Difficult case, huh?

Very difficult case.

You know, in the United States, we have...

Even in West Bank, you know,

we have a different type of drainage system,

different types of sutures, nutritional support.

All these simple things that we don't have here,

so this man, if he survives, it's only because of God,

not because of what we did.

-How are you? -Fine.

No, it's...

This war has been insane.

When we drove north through Rafah just a little bit,

and it was like, oh my God.

Just nothing, yeah.

And my government is so powerful,

it can give them so much explosives, so much weapons.

No, I know, but United States is the biggest one.

-Yeah. -Yeah.

I've always come at the Israel-Palestine conflict

from the standpoint of an American.

I'm not Israeli, I'm not Palestinian,

I'm not Jewish, I'm not Muslim, I'm not Christian.

I don't really have any connection to it.

But the U.S. is so heavily involved

that I've just stayed involved with it.

Hey, Dad.

Good, what are you up to?

No, everything's good here. Where we are is fine.

You know, you can imagine the amount of destruction

that's been done to the city is really amazing, but the...

The Israelis, you know, they've...

They're at least not attacking the city right now...

Every day or so they're shooting people

in the very far south and the very far north.

But thankfully not where I am.

I hope the ceasefire continues and things keep improving, too.

Are you guys still on the cruise, or no?

Panama was pretty?

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All right, what up?

What up, G? How are you? Good to see you.

Where's Lou's booth?

Oh.

-Wow. -We got the keffiyeh.

Because we're a Palestinian brand,

we got the keffiyeh on the back.

Oh wow, that's dope.

We got the bracelet.

Yo, that's amazing, man.

Take this for the family.

- What's this? - It's a mixing kit.

- We bottled the sauce, finally. - Oh my God.

That's amazing.

I wanna pay for all of this.

I do, I want to support you guys.

Can we get a picture?

Thank you, thank you, guys. Appreciate y'all.

So, you know, I am Falastini. I'm Palestinian.

Over a year ago,

January was my sixth time that I had been to Gaza.

One time, I went during the war on Gaza,

and twice I've been rejected.

And I want to just take you through what it looks like

when a hospital gets targeted and attacked.

Because this has become a pattern

when it comes to the Israeli military.

This has become a behavior

that they started in October of 2023,

when they struck Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital.

And when that happened

and that there was no accountability,

we saw that this became a series of events

that attacked every hospital.

Because the next hospital was Shifa.

Al-Awda.

Al-Aqsa.

When I went in January,

I went to Nasser Hospital.

I'm in front of Nasser Hospital here.

It's about 9:00 a.m. in the morning.

It's after a long night of bombings.

We are trying to figure out

how many casualties were from the night.

Many people will arrive today

because it was too dangerous to transport them

and cases that probably could've been saved.

As you're getting waves and waves of patients,

you're struggling.

Who do you prioritize? Who do you evaluate?

What do you have to be able to treat them?

We got not pain medicine to be able to give to people

whose legs have been blown off

or their arms have been blown off.

The hospital's totally overwhelmed.

Patients are everywhere. People keep coming in, and so...

And I remember foolishly sitting in the ICU,

talking to the ICU doctor.

And I said, "I don't think they're going to attack Nasser.

I mean, the World Health Organization sent us here.

They told U.S. doctors and international doctors.

They know that we're here. They're not going

to attack Nasser."

And he looked at me, he said,

"What makes you think that

Nasser is any different than Shifa?

Or any different than Al-Ahli? Any different than Al-Awda?

Or any different than Indonesia?

And he just listed off all the hospitals."

He said, "They're coming here."

When they hit a hospital, it's not just that incident

that you feel that tragedy.

That's a deep tragedy that

people will feel in the community

for the foreseeable future.

There will be scores of people that will die

only because they didn't have access to a hospital,

or a clinic, or a doctor.

I'm just wondering, from a training perspective,

is there anything you recommend....

- I'm a registered nurse. - Oh, wow.

I went to, I was in Rafah.

Glad you got a chance to go home.

I tried to go back, actually. They rejected me.

-Security reasons. -I mean,

it's just random garbage, right.

Any way they can, they'll just reject us.

When you got rejected, you were in Jordan already?

I was in Cairo, when I got rejected,

and they stormed the border.

I was there when they shut the border.

Oh, so that's when you got rejected.

-We had a convoy ready to go. -Oh, my God.

They're like, "Guys, the Israeli military

has stormed and destroyed the border."

-So did you ever try again? -I started in October.

And that's when I couldn't even, nobody would even apply my name.

-They wouldn't apply your name? -Yeah, they're were all like,

-"No, no." -Did they know

you have Palestinian heritage?

-Yeah. -Yeah. That sucks.

Can you get the Falasteen book?

Can you find it?

Yeah. There it is.

Wow. Okay, let me see it.

I love that one. It's my favorite.

-Here's Falasteen. -Oh my God, thank you so much.

Yes.

I mean, I don't know if you're gonna be allowed to go back.

Yeah, well, we have to. I have to at least try.

I know, but like...

I have to try to go back and see what happens.

Who knows? I mean, will they let me in?

Will they not let me in? If I get in,

will I be able to be let out?

I think all of that we can figure out.

I don't want to overthink.

And try to get in.

I don't know.

- Inshallah. - I don't know. Inshallah.

We'll see what happens. We'll hope for the best.

We'll prepare for the worst.

It's really tough to think about.

Dr. Thaer Ahmed.

Ahmad. Forgive me, Dr. Ahmad.

Are you confident that Hamas will allow this critical aid

to get to its civilian population?

Well, I think you have to look

at the agency of the Palestinian people.

That's part of the pressure that led to a ceasefire deal.

I think the people in the Gaza Strip

are ready for this to be over.

And I think all of the parties

in the Gaza Strip recognize that.

I just got this email from someone who watched it.

"I just saw being interviewed on CNN

related to the ceasefire announced

between your Palestinian

terrorist organization and Israel.

Doctor, you're just as anti-Semitic

as those Hamas terrorists

you probably have treated in your practice

in godforsaken Gaza.

Why did you not treat Jewish hostages,

especially frail old people and babies?

Is that not what a doctor is supposed to do?

Can't wait for Hamas to renege

on hostage deal before Sunday deadline

so that Israel can finish the job of eliminating

their presence forever

of every single Palestinian member of Hamas.

Chew on that fat, Doctor."

This is the kind of...

really frustrating part of this.

I'm not a spokesperson for anybody.

I'm not pro anything.

I'm a Palestinian who wants to see

babies that look like my babies not be killed anymore.

You know, I'm a human being, I'm a doctor,

and I want to be able to practice

and treat anybody without having

any sort of restrictions in place

or threat against my life, so..

This is... I mean,

I could care less about an email like that.

So what I did was I packed my surgical scrubs,

hats, masks, suture,

enough to do surgery everyday per pack.

And then I'll donate the scrubs there.

And, um...

Some rubber bands because they want to know

that they're willing to exsanguinate a limb so I can...

I can use this as a tourniquet as well.

Um. No more amputations without a tourniquet.

Initial here, Amy.

This is my will.

So many people have talked about

my imminent demise on this trip

compared to everything else I've ever done. It's crazy.

All right.

She still wants to go.

She's like, "Come on, come on.

Take me with you."

Come on, let's go.

All right.

So, I'll hide these antibiotic packs...

throughout my baggage.

And...

And hope that...

those screening for the IDF aren't sharp enough

to pick up on it.

So I can be turned down tonight.

I can be turned down at the Jordanian border.

I can be more likely turned down at the border

between Jordan and the West Bank.

And then you can be turned down between the West Bank and Gaza.

I get a WhatsApp message

from the emergency medical team coordinator

saying, you know, my name.

And it's in red. Everybody else's is in green.

So my name is not on the list.

There a degree of inconvenience that's intentional here.

We're submitting all our paperwork,

we have all our ducks in a row.

Everything is in order here.

But the Israelis choose to notify you

at the last approval.

The night before. I mean, literally the night before.

So the team was just able to enter into Gaza right now.

Can't imagine what the feeling is like

to reenter into the land, but...

We'll try.

We'll try to get on the next one

or the one after that.

Can he...

I think augmenting his EPL

and giving him some wrist extensions would...

Because if I hold his write in extension,

he has meaningful digital extension.

So he would be a wonderful candidate for tendon transfers.

-This time? -Yeah.

We can do it this mission.

Our plan, we'll do all of it for him,

and you will go the ulnar way.

Yeah, all my surgery's gonna be on the ulnar half of his hand.

-Yeah. -Okay.

You know how thick the grind is.

And you know how thick the skin is.

So you know how deep to go.

Now the disease is right under the skin, now.

So just to the point. There you go.

He has three more sutures to put in.

Yeah.

Three more, and another seven minutes.

His timing is perfect.

Yeah.

-Oh, that's right. -Yeah.

So, you lied to us.

Ça va bien?

Merci, mon cher.

-Very, very, very... -Hi, I'm Sabrina.

Hi, Sabrina. I'm Mark.

We actually met in Cairo

when we were on our way here last time.

Like most Americans, I know nothing,

knew nothing about Gaza, right?

I thought everybody out here were nothing but terrorists

because that's what I was told.

And I hear this kid

talking like he knows what he's talking about.

Like he's giving me the Gazan history,

or he's talking to somebody else.

He's reiterating the history

that I didn't have time to download...

- Yeah. - Um...

on the planes out, so, uh...

Even if you downloaded it, you can't trust

-what you-- -Yeah, right. That's for sure.

However, I needed an introduction.

So I picked him out as the dude I'm gonna sit next to,

or behind or in front of,

and crook my neck and just listen to everything

he had to say

because he was making sense.

He is about fairness and he is about ethics,

uh, and he is about doing the right thing.

So he was the right one to listen to, you know.

You know we're not dating, right. You don't have to

talk me up this much

when I just met her five minutes ago.

I was explaining why we do things together.

Right? Because... And then we became dear friends since.

Mark, I want to just ask you,

almost exactly one year ago

you co-wrote an opinion piece

titled, "As Surgeons, We Have Never Seen

Cruelty Like Israel's Genocide In Gaza."

That is a massive statement to make.

And a lot has changed since then,

including a ceasefire.

So what are your thoughts one year on?

Well first of all, there's never been a ceasefire,

and there's never been a ceasefire since 1948.

Um, that's just part of the propaganda line

that the Western media has been feeding us

because you're being fed that.

The issue is that when it's a thunderstorm

in Palestine since 1948

and Israel says it's sunny outside.

The American and Western media,

I'm not picking on you, specifically,

but the media in general

says that it's an absolutely beautiful day in Palestine.

They're not even opening the window.

They're just believing Israel.

- That-- - I think we are...

We are definitely seeing reports

coming out of the region,

and we are seeing, especially because of social media,

you are seeing things happening live on the ground.

I mean, I was just reading some of your previous work

and the opinion pieces that you've put out.

And it is clear that you're seeing a lot,

you're experiencing a lot there.

-But we are reading that. -That's good.

And that's not legacy American media, is it?

But people do have, I mean,

you're speaking to us live on air now,

so we are giving you the opportunity

to tell us exactly what's going on.

-That's great. -We are telling stories

from the region as we can,

and thank you for being on this as well.

We appreciate your time.

My pleasure.

-Yeah. -Yeah.

Um...

Live on air, honestly,

I doubt it because you're only going

to get opposition from that.

I wouldn't say, when they call you on for this kind of thing,

it would make sense to try to litigate it

because you just don't have enough time, honestly.

And again, the guy's only response is going to be,

"Oh shit, I have to defend my boss."

Lest he get in trouble.

That's why we're a good pair,

because you talk intelligently and I talk emotionally.

You're fact-based, and I'm like, "Fuck you.

-Why aren't you doing your job?" -Yeah.

Right? How can I see this death

and you not want to report on it?

And you don't even seem to think

it's important. Yeah, no, exactly.

Hey, Thaer. Mark and I are here.

Just wondering what you're up to.

People here at Nasser say "Hi." They miss you too.

Um, but anyway, yeah, if we can help

with anything that you're doing.

I know you've got your connections over there,

so if we can help with anything, just let us know.

It still stings pretty badly.

And it doesn't help to see other people kind of get in.

Uh...

And so, because I got rejected,

I tried to file a complaint with the State Department.

This is their response.

"Were your parents born in Gaza or the West Bank?

As we understand local laws, birth in the U.S. or elsewhere

to one or both parents holding Palestinian IDs

grants the U.S.-born child a Palestinian ID number as well.

If you haven't been issued an actual Palestinian ID..."

and then they put in parenthesis "Huwiya."

"...it is possible you were listed

on one of your parents' IDs."

Who gives a crap? Like what are you talking about?

Why are you giving me this long-winded explanation?

You want to know where my parents were born?

Why does that matter? I was born

at Cook County Hospital in Chicago.

What are you talking about? I was so pissed off.

This is the U.S. Embassy giving me these excuses.

And then I come back here to the United States

and get interrogated and detained

by the Department of Homeland Security.

♪ When you feel so mad

♪ that you want to roar

♪ Take a deep breath...

♪ ...and count to four

One, two, three, four.

Let's go, Baba, let's go!

You're going to get me!

Uh-oh.

Whoa! Whoa!

Whoa.

Ah. Okay, yeah.

Oh.

Very nice.

Everybody's trying to help with his, you know...

Everybody was looking for a way to help.

Yeah, yeah.

I'm proud of you, buddy.

Thank you very much. Oh, no, I appreciate it.

Thank you, I appreciate it.

It's amazing how the entire community

feels exactly the same way.

They all say the same thing.

They just want to be able to do something.

They want to do something for our people in Gaza.

...as to how to use our power of speaking.

I feel like this

tremendous sense of survivor's guilt.

It's like, I need to step up, I need to do more.

So, this is the back of Nasser Hospital.

This is actually where the mass graves

from the previous Israeli attacks on Nasser are.

You can see the large mounds where they were.

I don't know if the mass graves have been exhumed

and the bodies reburied somewhere.

I'm honestly not sure.

I certainly don't smell them,

but they've been buried here for months

if they are, so...

Or actually more than a year, I guess, it would actually be.

Now, this ambulance was shot to hell.

You can see that pretty clearly.

It's funny, you don't really think about it that much,

you know, the possibility of violence

until you're actually in it.

There's...

this boy, Mohammad, I'm pretty sure.

You put a chest tube in him, right?

-Yeah. -Yeah.

Right, right.

Because it was not functioning.

One, two, three.

There we go.

So, sorry, this is actually

the 15-year-old girl with the liver injury

who was taken back with a stomach injury.

No.

Oh, he died?

-He died. -Okay.

That one with the femur injury.

Can you, uh...

Does he know? It's a video online?

-Online. -Oh, okay.

That's okay.

At least we did what we tried. Or, we tried what we could.

That sucks.

It's his son,

- correct? - Yeah.

He has the cubitus varus deformity?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

-Right. -Probably.

So the plan is for today,

Um. I'm not sure when.

The operating rooms are being used

by other traumas right now.

He's saying that he's gonna be staying here

until there's an operation room.

You're welcome.

-Inshallah. -Inshallah.

Yeah.

-Used? Prepared? -No, uh...

It's broken. Yeah.

Is there a portable X-ray machine that can come in?

It's on the other side of the border.

Yeah.

Okay.

Well, my dad used to say,

"You have to dance with who brought you."

-Yeah. -Right?

All right, let's get started.

We have our nurses.

Yeah...

Tell all your girlfriends

that you'll text them later.

Just kidding.

I know, right?

That's important.

Listen, your family is still

the most important thing here, right?

Right? I get that, all right? I was just teasing you.

And they're still in the north?

Your little girl died?

Yeah.

Oh man, I'm sorry.

No, no. Thank you.

-I'm sorry. -Thank you. Thank you.

Because there's so many traumas.

That's right. That's right.

You bother me.

Yeah, that's right.

Yeah.

Jesus Christ.

Now...

that if I keep...

that's...

I don't want...

I'm sorry.

Ten months old.

I feel so sad for him. So sorry.

If you want to work in Ukraine, or in Burkina Faso, or in Ghana,

or in Mozambique, any of these other places,

the likelihood that you'll be killed is basically random.

You could be killed, it's possible,

but it's no more likely than anyone else.

That's not the case in Gaza.

That's not the case in the West Bank, even.

If the Israelis want to kill you here, they will do it.

And they will get away with it.

The U.S. won't do anything about it.

Even if you're an American citizen, they won't.

So you just have to accept that risk

if you're going to come work here.

He put out this narrative. There's bombing going on.

-Yeah. -There is smoke coming

from over there.

You can see it? I can't see it.

The... Sorry, anyway,

I should pay attention to what I'm trying to do here.

He's going to the OR. I have a case in the OR in 15 minutes.

A little boy.

- There's a bomb. - Hold on.

Where was that?

Gaza, Gaza, we know your name!

Gaza, Gaza, we know your name!

We won't let you die in vain!

We won't let you die in vain!

I see pictures of the journalists

that have been killed.

I see pictures of the children

that have been killed.

It's on us to make sure

that their stories are told.

Because if you turn on the news right now,

you will not hear anything about them.

So I ask everybody,

everybody that made it out here in the cold.

Please, anybody that you know, share their stories.

Your congressman, your senator, make sure their staff

knows your name and knows what you're about.

Thank you very much.

Free, free Palestine!

Hey, Asha, welcome back.

Thank you, Thaer, good to see you.

Likewise, likewise.

- Hi, Mark. - Hi, Mark.

Hi.

I want to start with you, Mark, if that's okay.

As a Jewish American physician,

how have you found your speaking out

has impacted your relationship with some of your colleagues?

I think most are afraid to speak up.

I've lost friends over this, I've gained friends over this.

But people come and go. And if you lose friends,

they probably weren't that much of a friend to begin with.

Ben, maybe we can mention also,

we've seen healthcare workers

who have spoken out about this, be suspended, be fired.

Additionally, medical societies,

professional societies, for example,

the America Medical Association,

has refused to adopt any ceasefire statement

or take a position on this.

And this is especially notable given their stances on Ukraine.

There's an institutional trend to silence

and punish people who are speaking out against this.

And we know where this comes from. Um...

This comes from simply Zionistic influences

that invade the board members of every single university.

It comes from the boards of institutions like hospitals.

But we can't stop approaching the root of all evil,

and that's the IDF and the Likud Party's penetration

like a mold into the fabric of our society.

And they just don't care at what cost that is achieved.

I always get nervous when Mark talks.

It can stop with a telephone call,

as Reagan had done in 1982.

When he starts talking about

getting into the weeds of Zionism,

it's like, well, he can.

He can use language that is fine for him,

but we'll be guilty by association

and we'll just get crushed for it.

I think we're coming up to time,

and I think that's a wonderful...

I think that I gain an audience

because I have a white face.

I think that I get invited to these things,

maybe because I say the right things,

but also because I represent

a hell-bent of society that's different

than the average person who's protesting.

...that absolutely this genocide must stop.

So you're weaker over here.

And you've lost more muscle over here.

You know, this disease only happens in people

-who drive Harleys. -Is that right?

If you drove a Jack Bike or a BMW like mine,

you wouldn't have had this problem.

Oh man, shoot.

I'm just going to have to hurt.

All right, hang tight.

I have a blue flag for you.

You got it.

They know I like glazed donuts.

How much fortitude do you think

I'm gonna have avoiding a glazed donut today?

Not any at all.

You know, you might as well just go ahead and cave.

If I tap there, is it sore?

I feel it all the way up here.

Okay.

My father was my biggest role model.

He was the only sign of medicine

in my small, rural town that I grew up in.

He was Jewish.

And as a Jewish physician in World War II,

he went into concentration camps

to provide aid to victims of the Holocaust.

And that was a big influence in my life.

Salam, everyone.

- Okay, everybody can hear me? - Yes.

This is going to be a raw, eyewitness testimony

from two of our amazing doctors that'll be with us.

Um, when you were both working with children,

how often were children shot by snipers?

Or would you describe this as casualties

from crossfire, as Israel likes to label it as?

But keep in mind, I think it's perfectly okay

to despise your government's administration

but love the country.

You can love Israel

and still hate the right-wing fascist government that runs it.

Praying for its change.

When you stop robbing the land of a people

who've lived there for a millennia,

um, and you've stopped grabbing it at gunpoint,

the children stop dying.

How about the West Bank?

How about all of Gaza right now?

Okay.

I'm sorry, what part of...

Oh, excuse me. Okay, thank you.

And therein lies the problem. Her last comment.

I think they had to see the horrors of it.

You know, and I've seen some super ugly,

painful things in my life. Um...

At Ground Zero, at Haiti, just horribly ugly things.

But I got to tell you,

-none of it was-- -Right, could even compare.

None. Can't even come close.

And it was tough because even after I got back,

I totally blew you off.

-Yeah. -I couldn't reset my clock.

It was just difficult.

You know? It was difficult to communicate.

You were reaching out towards people

that had either experienced it,

or that were from Palestinian descent.

Um. And you were leaning on them instead of leaning on me.

So I just kind of felt like I was out in the cold.

Yeah, and also, I didn't think that anyone

who didn't see what I saw could ever understand

what a mass casualty event looks like.

That all the patients were children.

That, um...

I'm going to cry again because it does it to me every time.

So...

Every time.

I play it in my head every time, and I can't lose it.

Um...

Everybody together. Let's make a fist bump

and a flower.

Hello, can you hear me?

Dr. Feroze Sidhwa, hello.

Hi, nice to be here.

We saw a lot of images from hospitals in Gaza,

tunnels that were built underneath hospitals,

ammunition and that sort of images.

Did you see any of that while you were practicing there?

No, and neither has anybody else.

And I would really encourage Israelis to...

To just ask if your government's

telling the truth about those things.

It's pretty ridiculous.

-You think they're lying? -Yes, I do.

-We saw the images. -Which images did you see?

I'd love to see them. I've never seen any, actually...

You didn't see the IDF spokesperson videos?

Look, I don't think it's surprising to you

or anybody else that the IDF spokesperson lies about things.

That doesn't mean they're always lying,

but they are capable of lying,

we all know that.

They've done so many times,

just like my own government's military lies.

Everybody knows that.

There's a reason that the only people

who can find these things are Israeli intelligence

and the Israeli military. I'm sorry,

they're just not true.

I've got to be honest, I'm guessing

they'll just never run the video.

You know, if they do, then...

good for them.

My parents are from a small ethnic minority in Pakistan

called the Parsis.

They follow a religion called Zoroastrianism.

Zoroastrianism emphasizes

fighting for what's right in the world,

and I'm not religious,

but I definitely inherited that from my parents.

It really influenced how I saw

the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

I actually went and lived in Israel for a year,

and I worked with an Arab-Jewish cooperative there.

And then when I decided to go to medical school,

I kind of saw my life path as being

that I'm going to continue learning

about the Israel-Palestine conflict as much as I can.

Being a physician isn't some kind of political extremist.

This was a major opportunity to bring a different perspective

on what is done to the Palestinians.

Like, let's look at it in the reverse.

Benjamin Netanyahu had his prostate taken out

- at the end of December, right? - Okay.

Does anybody think that means Hamas can bomb the hospital?

No, nobody thinks that. That's crazy.

Can Hamas bomb hospitals because there are wounded

Israeli soldiers in them?

No. That's not how hospitals work.

If someone is abusing a hospital,

there are provisions for it under international law

for how to actually deal with it.

What they were showing were CGI renderings

of what they say are the tunnels under the hospital,

but they're not there.

And the guy's like,

"Haven't you seen the videos?"

What are you talking about, man?

Haven't I seen CGI videos

that anyone can make on their computer?

Yes, I've seen those.

They don't actually prove there's anything under there.

It's just, it's...

Dr. Feroze, thank you so much for being with us.

Thank you. Nice to talk to you.

I'm curious on what they're going to say.

You know, the Israelis are gonna do

whatever they're gonna do.

But as an American, I just don't want

my government involved in crimes.

I think of it as just a way of

helping my country to actually achieve its moral potential.

And for myself to achieve my moral potential.

Uh, to my mind, this is a political problem,

and if we want to solve the problem,

not just go and do medical care but actually solve the problem,

then we need a political solution

which requires some political influence.

The United States government is an active participant in this.

We do not have to accept that as Americans.

Most physicians are absolutely horrified by this,

but they're also frightened by speaking out

because their institutions are cracking down on them.

And yes, I completely understand,

it's not that the risk is zero,

but you're literally talking about being too afraid

to stand up for a million children who are being starved.

It's very...

How are you going to explain that to someone in the future?

And I still remember, while I was just looking at this wound

bleeding on her face,

I remember thinking like, "Did I pay for this shrapnel,

or did my neighbor, or did their neighbor?"

You know how senseless this all of this is.

You know it's not making anyone safer.

Yet we're all just sleepwalking into doing it.

The United States has paid approximately 70 percent

of Israel's war expenditures since October 7th.

The United States could stop sending

jet fuel, bombs, all sorts of weapons.

And if they did that, the Israelis would have to

negotiate a truce,

which, incidentally, would also be the best way

to get the hostages released.

So I don't really see

how this is helping anybody.

You know, I don't have a family of my own.

I don't have anybody to support.

I don't have any kids

that I need to spend time with.

So I'm kind of uniquely positioned

to to do this work, and...

And all of the women that I've dated, have been...

Um...

The way I've always put it is supportive to a point.

But, uh...

But I think when they realize that I'm not willing to...

Put this stuff aside

when there's something that needs to be done,

even though it never seems to make any difference

to what's going on in the world.

That causes tension, you know?

But no, honestly, um...

I think I'm just probably a hard person to get along with.

I don't think it has anything to do with this.

I wish I could blame the fact that no woman can put up with me

on the Israel-Palestine conflict,

but I don't think that's the issue at all.

No, that's not the issue at all.

Just with respect to tomorrow,

we'll divide up into small groups.

I'd say a couple of things, just from my own experience,

failing a lot at this and not

kind of having the conversation get derailed.

You guys are all healthcare workers,

so you have to pretty quickly figure out

the literacy level of the people that you're interacting with.

So don't assume that who you're talking to knows any details.

You can slow-roll it and then engage in that conversation.

It's really important that we make it feel real.

Like, tell them the stories.

Let them know that we're talking about human beings.

You can dismiss the number and say that,

"Oh, the Ministry of Health is not accurate."

But you guys were there. You're eyewitnesses.

You're a very small select group of people that enter.

You know, the truth of it is,

if we don't bear witness and treat the genocide as a disease

and go for the cause of that disease,

then we're we're committing medical malpractice.

Because genocide has to be considered a medical diagnosis.

It can no longer be considered a political entity.

It's just that the disease

happens to be a political ideology,

and it still has to be eliminated.

Well, we just found out that

USAID has been cut off at the knees.

They've been told, don't spend any money. Everything's frozen.

I'm curious because we're talking.

There's a lot of asks that we can come up with tomorrow.

I don't know, the way I look at it is,

I think of it as just asking the king for favors.

The king doesn't give a damn about you,

but maybe he'll think it's inconvenient for him.

Or to make him look good, or make him sleep better

at night or whatever.

So anything that I can get out

of these people that will help--

And by these people you mean our legislators.

I mean our elected representatives

who definitely serve us and the people.

Yeah, right.

Mark, after this meeting,

I'm gonna text you the address, that's gonna be your senator.

-And then after that... -Thom Tillis?

Yeah. And then after that,

there's the congressional briefing.

I will text you the address to that.

We just met with Ted Cruz's office, and...

It was fine.

Just kind of platitudes.

How do you think that went?

Dead ears. What about you?

I thought their answers were rehearsed.

-Yeah. -I think their ears were dead.

Yeah.

You know, this poster.

It tries to add a sense of humanity

to the fact that these innocent people

were taken hostage, and that's a horrible thing.

But what it doesn't give credence to

is that if this was a poster

of two-by-two photographs of Palestinian hostages,

that that photograph would go clear down that hallway

of people's faces who are held hostage.

-You ready? -Yeah, yeah, of course.

-Let's go. -Always.

We met with his aide.

He wants to reiterate that the senator

is a staunch supporter, an ally of Israel.

And that, that was not going to change.

And we said we're not asking him to change that, you know.

We think that there's an opportunity here

to do some good, to help save some kids' lives.

Didn't take any notes, so I don't know

if that's going to go back to the senator,

but, you know, it is what it is.

We'll go to our next meeting and we'll do it again.

It was a strict interrogation by one guy.

He's a deputy director or something.

And his only concern was quotes that I made...

-What? -...on TikTok

or social media posts.

-That kind of meeting you had? -Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

So I said, "What you're proving is that you stalked me

on Instagram."

I said, "I'm making no mistakes

about my differing politics with you.

But that doesn't mean we can't develop a common ground

to solve the problem

of the lack of medical aid going to Gaza."

And then he gives you the platonic at the end.

"Well, thank you for your service."

You know? Like, stick it up your ass.

- You know? Right? - Yeah.

I mean, because you don't really mean it, right?

None of what we're doing about Gaza right now,

I expected that I would ever have to do.

None of this social media advocacy,

writing op eds, trying to organize communities.

I, obviously, based on my career path,

was not interested in doing any of this.

I'd rather be in Gaza with the people that are there,

and having seen what's happened and talking to them,

they told us, you have to advocate on our behalf.

I promise you, there's not a single person

who's comfortable doing this,

but they all feel a sense of duty that they have to do that.

This country that I belong to,

that I was born in, that I was raised in,

there's this cognitive dissonance that exists.

My American side actively works to suppress

my Palestinian identity.

In a very real and deadly way.

As doctors, I wonder if you have anything to say

to the recent claims by President Trump himself

that he stopped $50 million funding for Gaza,

which he claims to be used to buy condoms.

And he also claims that funding,

the condoms would be used to make bombs.

And you doctors, do you have anything to say on that claim?

This is nonsense. And it's a distraction

from the true horrors that are happening on the ground.

And the ludicrous nature of this sort of language

dominating the airwaves.

I mean, it's totally unacceptable

to be focusing on these sorts of things,

and there's nothing that suggests

that is even in the realm of reality.

We want hungry kids to be fed.

We want hospitals to be able to operate

without the fear of being attacked.

And we want Palestinians to have a chance at life.

I will say that if we do not get to a phase two of this ceasefire

and a phase three, then any of the work

that we are advocating for,

in this very short period, will be for nothing.

And it will be the cruelest thing imaginable,

to give a glimmer of hope to the Palestinians in Gaza,

and then for them to hear fighter jets

overhead bombing again.

So the, the bomb that hit

went right through the Nasser Medical Complex sign.

This is completely insane.

You don't bomb hospitals. Everybody knows that.

It's part of the oldest part of international law.

You know, the first Geneva Convention

was signed in 1864,

and that was the first creation of international law,

at least in the West.

And, and it's specifically

about not obstructing the work

of physicians and nurses.

This is this is barbarity.

This isn't how, reasonable, civilized people behave.

It doesn't matter what they were trying to do.

You don't bomb a hospital, no matter what.

That's not how it works.

I was headed down there, but then somebody pulled me

into the ICU and said, "Hey, this guy is bleeding.

Can you look at him?"

I went over to look at the guy,

and five or six minutes later

the hospital shook.

You know, lights flickered, just for a second,

and everyone said, "Oh, that bomb hit the building."

There was a 15-year-old kid in there

that Feroze had operated on the day before

or two days before, and was getting ready for discharge.

And that kid was incinerated.

Yeah, no. That's the first time I've ever done

an operation on a patient

who was blown up and then had him

get blown up again in his hospital bed.

That's pretty unusual. That's not something

doctors deal with very often.

You know, it just goes to show that, honey,

they don't give a shit about anybody else.

As long as they kill the person that they're after.

I just don't see the value in it.

I don't see the.. the reason to do it.

I don't see the reason to keep doing this. I think it's crazy.

And it almost killed me yesterday.

I mean, if I had gone down and been

changing my kids dressing,

probably there would have been three bodies,

and I would have been one of them.

I don't particularly like that.

I don't care!

So there was an Apache helicopter gunship attack.

We received two little boys probably three or four dead.

Which room are we using?

OR Three.

They're setting up in three.

I need to know which room.

She's starting to wake up, too.

Let's get her warm.

Well, we've got to run. We've got to hurry.

One, two, three.

Let's get started on saving her arm

because it's avascular.

And it's been over an hour.

I'll trade you these for another...

Yeah, that's what...

So three surgeons, four fellowships,

all working on one little girl for, what, two and a half hours?

And she's probably gonna lose her right leg.

Very likely to lose her left leg,

and very likely to still lose her left arm above the elbow.

Oh, there's a hot chance.

The pulse is diminished.

Yeah.

You can't feel it.

I'll see you soon. Thanks for everything.

Send me a picture of your wedding, yeah?

Of course.

-I'll see you soon. -Thank you for coming here.

No, no.

-I hope I'll see you soon. -Thank you.

-Thank you for everything. -No, thank you for everything,

-my friend. -Let's keep in touch.

Nice to meet you, my friend. Thanks for everything.

-See you soon? Inshallah. -Inshallah.

I was not prepared for this.

There is this weird thing that happens

when you leave Gaza and you...

really feel like you have no right to leave.

You just get this feeling of...

Kind of shame.

Bye-bye, my friend. Thank you.

Bye-bye.

Thank you for everything. Thank you, my friend. Be safe.

Well, I actually felt guilty leaving.

I felt guilty driving away from the crumbled buildings.

Um...

And seeing, you know, all the...

The death and suffocation that is yet to be discovered.

Because you just can't see

hundreds of millions of tons of building

crumbled down like that and presume

there's still not a couple hundred thousand people

buried under that.

It's just so immense

and so widespread. It's so immense.

Alright, I don't want to film too much, you know.

I just want to say welcome back.

Yeah.

Thanks.

This is my OR team.

- Say hi, everybody. - Hi.

Introduce yourselves.

This is Drimi.

This is the world's best anesthesiologist.

Just ask him.

Dina.

She's a nurse anesthetist and wonderful.

And the most budding, wonderful orthopedic surgeon

who did an index metacarpal flange joint,

and we learned a lot during that case.

And then we moved back over here

to the world's best medical student.

- Say hi, Sama. - Hi.

So I'm...

I don't feel like I should have left.

I think that was a mistake, actually.

Because I actually just don't see any scenario now

where Gaza isn't just destroyed.

Because I was already there.

And because nobody was coming in to replace me,

I think it would have been better to stay,

and to witness firsthand what was going on.

Um...

You know, I have, I'm a relatively known quantity,

so I have some access to media, some access to...

To people who can write about these things.

And so...

I just feel like I could have provided some protection

by staying.

In retrospect, I just wish I had,

I guess, is what I'm trying to say.

The...

I think that would have been the more

proper thing to do.

I don't think, honestly,

that my probably combined 35 minutes

on American and corporate television stuff,

has been all that useful, to be honest.

I don't think it made any difference

in the popular perception of things at all.

And then, advocacy that we've been doing

with the U.S. government and other institutions.

I've got to be honest, it seems pretty useless.

And I don't think we've... At least what I've seen.

It hasn't made one dent of difference in anything.

But the point of all of this is, is this...

So this this is from an anesthesiologist named Nizar.

I've got this just yesterday, actually.

He said, "You know, I have a five-year-old boy

named Keenan.

Today I asked him how many kinds of birds you know.

He answered, 'I know quadcopter, helicopter,

Apache, F-16, and F-35.'"

And when he grows up, what will we teach him?

It's a hard thing to read.

And Nizar is one of the most dedicated fathers

I've ever met in my life.

We should support these people in any way we can.

And you all are, so thanks for that.

Dr. Sidhwa, you have said several times

you're not sure of the effectiveness

of the things you're doing.

You know, of course,

that, that's a ridiculous statement.

Remember how long it took us to end the war in Vietnam?

And so it's important to carry it on.

Thank you very much.

Okay. I need your help.

You want to zip it up?

Let's put it in.

She doesn't want to.

-Baba? -In. Thank you, Betour.

No, no, no...

You want to put in my stethoscope, please?

Yes.

All right. Thank you very much.

Yeah, we want to take this.

We want to take this to Falasteen.

All right. What's...

-This is for Falasteen? -Yeah. It's for Falasteen.

I've got to put this as well.

- Salaam alaikum. - Baba, are you outside?

I'm outside, Baba.

You want to see Falasteen?

-Yes. -You want to see Falasteen?

Yes.

Do you see it?

That's Falasteen.

Can I come over there, Baba?

Are you going to listen to Mama?

You want to come over here, Baba?

Yeah.

Betour, what about you?

I want Baba.

You want to come to Falasteen with Baba and Mariam?

Yeah.

Okay.

Where are you going, Baba?

Baba, I'm going to come back home.

I wanted to go to Falasteen, but I couldn't go.

Where are you?

Yeah.

You show up here, going to Gaza.

But there's a risk.

I think the more that we are doing the work

that we're doing, trying to highlight

what's happening in Gaza.

I think we risk never being able

to access any part of Palestine again.

I mean, it's, like, literally right over there.

But it feels so far away.

I think that shock of somebody's trying to literally erase it.

I hope my daughters are better than we were.

I hope they don't fail like how we failed.

And I think that what I would ask everybody

but myself first is,

did you do everything that you could?

With our military pressure

and President Trump's global leadership,

we achieved this historic moment.

We make the best weapons in the world,

and we've given a lot to Israel, frankly.

And you obviously used them very well.

At Nasser Hospital, we saw what happened.

How many times has that happened in Gaza?

Somebody made that call. Somebody made that decision.

Somebody said, "Here's the green light.

Attack those hospitals."

So the traditional protections that are supposed

to be afforded to healthcare workers,

first responders and journalists,

gone out the window.

But it's not just about hospitals

that are being attacked.

It's the erasure of that society.

Every aspect of life has been destroyed.

But there's been no accountability.

Who will bring the perpetrators to justice?

Who is going to prosecute them?

Who is going to confront the perpetrators

in a way that they can't rest without seeing us?

It's the best way that we can honor

everybody that's been killed.

And it's the only way we'll be able to achieve accountability

and justice.

♪ Lead the way, friend

♪ Lead the way again

♪ Right into the fire

♪ Headed in, but

♪ Don't slow down and

♪ Throw me in the mire

♪ And praise

♪ The new you

♪ Where is

♪ It in the deep? ♪

♪ You'll never guess What I just went through ♪

♪ Everything that I just hold true ♪

♪ Implodes and breaks

♪ Into thousands Of little pieces ♪

♪ So I ask you now

♪ Isn't this wonderful?

♪ Following, Now here we are now ♪

♪ On this train to oblivion

♪ There's a spirit That invites us ♪

♪ But you can't seduce

♪ Replace

♪ Behold you

♪ Misplace it

♪ In the deep

♪ You'll never guess What I just went through ♪

♪ Everything that I just hold true ♪

♪ Implodes and breaks

♪ Into thousands Of little pieces ♪

♪ Now I ask you now

♪ Isn't this wonderful?

♪ You'll never guess What I just went through ♪

♪ Everything that I just hold true ♪

♪ Implodes and breaks

♪ Into thousands Of little pieces ♪

♪ So I ask you now

♪ Isn't this wonderful?

♪ We are now

♪ Dissolving slowly

♪ Name turn to echoes

♪ No one ever heard

♪ The astral light Grows brighter ♪

♪ But it all fades

♪ Will they forget us too?

♪ Will they forget us too?

♪ Could they forget us too?