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electrified Wall Street
and investors everywhere by announcing it would
for the first time sell stock in the company to the public.
And instantly, thousands of millionaires and billionaires were born.
Employees, executives, venture capitalists.
And then there's the most unlikely and colorful Facebook tycoon of them all.
Terry, his name is David Choe.
‐What? ‐Yeah, you know Dave Choe?
David Choe, this Korean artist who I think he was a thief
‐and he was in jail for years. ‐You're one to talk.
‐ ‐He's a thief!
And convicted felon David Choe is as famous in the art world
for his talent as he is notorious for time spent in a Tokyo prison.
Today, the stock is estimated at 200 million dollars.
This is a crazy story. David...
Wait, wait, Howard, let me tell you what happened.
‐I'm sorry, I'm getting real... ‐It's okay, man.
I'm paying for the show myself.
I want to talk to people that are open,
I wanna challenge myself in this art form that I don't wanna do.
Portraits. I wanna push myself to like do the best portraits I've ever done.
But also get amazing interviews where I can learn about myself
and, like, hopefully anyone learning about this. And that's my intention, right?
‐Right. ‐It's not going the way I want.
I've been mostly talking to like famous people in entertainment.
And I was like, "Well, there's one porn star I need to talk to."
Asa Akira, because she... we did a podcast for three years together.
I hadn't seen her in a long time. And I still love her and I care about her.
She's married now. She was eight months pregnant when I talked to her.
‐Wow. ‐Oh, my God!
I know, I'm huge! We're like matching.
Asa Akira at one point in her life
was the highest‐paid porn star in the world.
When we met, we were best friends instantly.
But after seeing her again after a long time,
there were a lot of things I wanted to get off my chest.
That's our ongoing joke, is can we ever meet
‐and not talk about anal sex? ‐Right, right.
And I was like, let's just show that I'm a different person now.
Within five minutes...
You've had two dicks in your pussy at the same time.
‐Yeah. ‐You've had two dicks in your asshole.
But not all at the same time.
‐But not all at the same time. ‐Yeah.
It was like I learned nothing.
I mean, I talked to her for six hours straight.
And then I processed it for 12 hours.
‐Right. ‐I reverted back to like, I'm a sensitive artist.
So I like I go a lot to like feeling sorry for myself.
‐Like, hopelessness. ‐Right.
You're probably one of the last people we're gonna interview.
I wanted to learn something, and what I've learned is
I'm not that healthy.
So what are... what are we doing?
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♪ Go out tonight ♪
♪ Leave all our bad blood behind ♪
♪ Forget all our past troubles ♪
♪ Let's try not to fight ♪
♪ Baby, we should just start over ♪
♪ We got no cho‐‐ ♪
‐How are you? ‐I'm good, babe.
‐I'm nervous. ‐You are?
‐No. ‐Oh. Never.
‐Oh, yes. ‐Yes! Señor David!
‐Oh, my God! ‐Oh, man. How are you?
‐Hi. ‐Is this like a thing?
‐No, it doesn't have to be. ‐Oh, okay.
I don't know. It's a weird question...
I don't know, like, I feel like the last few times I've seen you
everything has turned into thing.
Or you're like diagnosing all of us with like...
‐I am? ‐Yeah!
‐In a judgmental way? ‐
I mean, any time you're diagnosing anyone, it's kinda judgmental.
Do we have a name for the baby yet?
‐Leafar. Rafael backwards. ‐Yeah.
‐He'll be a little... little reflection of him. ‐Wow.
I met Rafa at the grocery store while listening to his band Prayers.
He said he was getting married to Kat Von D.
Growing up, I didn't know any art dude that didn't have a crush on Kat Von D,
the tattoo artist and beauty makeup mogul.
I went to the wedding. It was the strangest
and most beautiful thing I'd ever been to.
I want to talk to you guys about tattoos. 'Cause I don't have any.
‐ ‐And you guys are covered in them.
I knew I would never make any money doing art,
and I would just like shoplift and steal and do weird shit
for the rest of my life to make money.
And so I was like, if crime is gonna be my career,
then I can't have any tattoos, so that was like...
That was my choice not to.
Where I come from, the neighborhood that I come from,
tattooing, it wasn't perceived as art.
It was more a way of saying, "I'm from this neighborhood."
‐Yeah. Right. ‐And the tattoos, you know, you had to earn them.
Like, I have 1913 on my stomach, which is my neighborhood,
which was "SM," which was for Sherman.
‐And I had to earn it. ‐What does that mean when you say, "I had to earn it?"
I had to fight, physically fight, and, you know, just get in trouble,
do things that get you in juvenile hall or in jail.
Take me a little bit into that. I'll tell you, when I was 15, I got jumped into a gang.
And when I say "a gang," two Black guys.
And in my mind I was like, "That'd be so fucking cool if I was like in a Black gang."
And they're like, "We're gonna jump you in, homie."
And I was like, "Cool." And the guy set a fucking timer
and they just kicked the shit... One guy broke his pinky on the back of my head.
Which I was really happy about.
So I curled up in a ball
and they just went off on me.
And they're like, "You're in."
And I was like, "Cool. What do I do?"
They're like, "We're just, you know,
‐we just wanted to beat you up." ‐
And so I guess I bring it up because...
it's sort of this kind of feeling...
of anything subculture, of anything that I was, like punk or metal or this,
it's just the people that are into it now are the same people that would like
‐beat me up or, like... ‐Yeah, I don't know.
I've never really been... I never felt identified by my tattoos.
I just, I get 'em 'cause I like 'em.
You know, which is interesting 'cause it's such
an outward expression, right?
So you would think that it's like for other people.
But you don't have to be a part of a secret society
or a gang, whatever. You just get something 'cause you love it.
And there's no earning in it, aside from enduring the pain, you know?
No matter how much dick I suck on the Internet,
every time I get a new tattoo my mom cries.
‐ ‐Which I also find super annoying.
I got my first Dead Kennedys record and...
‐Nice. ‐When I was 13 or so.
And it changed my life. I started listening to punk rock music.
And I shaved my head into a mohawk, you know.
I just remember, like, I was never rebellious.
It was never a matter of, like, hurting my parents.
But I remember my parents couldn't handle it. I think they had a bigger problem
with my mohawk than they did when I... Because I was tattooed when I was 14.
They had a bigger problem with the hair. And I remember going, "That's weird.
'Cause, like, my tattoos, you can't take off."
It's like crazy, like real modification of your body. You know?
And I remember going, "Oh, I know why. It's not the tattoo and it's not the hair.
‐It's what the church will think." ‐Right.
And you can't hide a mohawk like you can hide the tattoo I had on my leg. You know?
‐Right. ‐And I remember thinking, like, I already see past this already.
It isn't about what these motherfuckers think about your kid or you.
Like, it's about, is your daughter awesome? You know?
And I was awesome. I was a good kid.
‐Everyone goes through a rebellious phase. ‐Right.
In their teens. And something I've learned in therapy is, like,
if you don't go through that phase, then you get emotionally stunted.
And you don't... you can't even come through the other side as an adult.
There's my dad, I gotta get a picture of him.
There's this one part of me that's expressing itself in some way.
Probably due to some shit my parents did, I don't know. You know?
And they're just so sidetracked with what others thought, you know?
‐Right. ‐They don't tell anyone. So for my mom, it's always,
like, "Oh, I can't even tell my friends what my daughter does for a living."
I can interpret you going into porn as a huge "fuck you"...
‐Right. ‐...to your dad.
‐So... ‐No, my parents are definitely
for sure ashamed of the fact that their kid does porn.
‐Right. So that... ‐A hundred percent.
‐So that is... ‐But I'm annoyed by that.
Like, I'm annoyed that my parents...
Like, for me the "fuck you" comes after the fact.
Like, for me the "fuck you" is like,
"Fuck you for feeling ashamed.
Fuck you for feeling like I should live my life
a certain way so that you can spare yourself of shame."
I have deep‐rooted mom issues. You know?
Like from... since I can remember. You know?
And it hasn't been until recently that my mom and I reconnected.
She put her arm around me and showed me affection, which is really huge for me.
‐She never did that growing up? ‐Um, she did for a while, and then stopped.
Like I remember I was around 12 years of age when she stopped telling me she loved me.
And I think my mom loves me. I think it's just in her own way,
‐which is not... it's different. ‐I'm sure she loves you.
It's different than... And so for me, you know,
I've gone through years and years of therapy for that.
Because those mom issues really translate themselves
‐into my relationships. ‐I've heard on your podcast,
‐listening to the Asa Akira podcast... ‐Yeah.
You're like, "All the dudes that fuck the best
and that are attracted to me have mommy issues."
‐Yes. ‐"And I think that's why they're attracted to me.
‐Because I'm..." ‐I don't know if that's why they're attracted to me
or if that's why I'm attracted to them.
Like all my relationships, which I haven't had many, but the ones I've had,
it's like they're all very similar. Like, you know,
chasing guys that, like, are not emotionally available, that don't actually love me.
‐Right. 'Cause that feels safe. ‐It wasn't until...
I like to be needed. That's comfortable to me.
‐Mm‐hm. ‐And I think guys with mommy issues are like often...
I don't wanna say "mommy issues."
‐A lot of guys that have like... ‐Who fucks the best?
Guys that like have unconventional relationships to their mom.
‐'Cause when they fuck... ‐Perhaps they don't like them so much sometimes.
‐Very complicated. ‐Men that have a great, healthy relationship with women
‐and their mothers are very polite and respectful. ‐Yeah.
They're not gonna, like, spit in my face.
I love my mother. She's the only person that's functional in our family.
But my mother called me and was like, "I need you to do me a favor."
And I was like, "Yes. What is it, Mom?"
She's all, "I need you to protect your wife from us.
Keep her away from this family."
‐Your mom said this? ‐She's all, "Keep her away..."
‐Wow, I'm getting goosebumps. ‐She's like, "Keep her away
‐from your sisters, from your brothers, ‐She knows how fucked up she is.
you know what they do, you know what they're capable of doing.
Stay in Los Angeles."
So my girlfriend's 28.
My mom knew I'd be out of town for a month.
And my mom is a Sith Lord. My mom is manipulative.
My mom is cunning. My mom is a liar.
As well as loyal, loving, caring, and being a great mom.
She knew I wasn't gonna be there and she shows up in my home under false premise
saying, "Oh, yeah, I need to borrow a pot or pan" or some shit.
And then I feel guilt because I should have told like,
"If these vampires ever show up at our doorway, say no and they can't come in."
And she invited them into our home and they proceeded to do to her
at age 28 what they did to me at age six.
They wouldn't leave, and they were screaming Bible verses.
Said spit was flying out of their mouth.
And she... she's a nice person. She was gently telling them
that there was company over, that she had to go.
But they wouldn't leave. They stayed there for hours.
'Cause they believe in hell. To them it's a real place.
They can't imagine their son, someone they love,
burning in hell and then being with someone
who doesn't accept Christ as their personal lord and savior.
But I've told them, "I don't believe the same things you believe."
Gang life, violence, is that still a part of your life now?
‐No, of course not, man. ‐How do you get out of it?
‐Some people find Christ. ‐Right.
And some people just retire, like myself. I'm 43 years old.
I'm not gonna be on the streets. You know?
That's a choice? You can just say I'm done with this life,
and it's like they won't jump you out or anything like that?
But, you know, I kind of grew up around it, my cousins are in it, my sister's in it.
I have family members serving life sentences in prison.
So what‐‐ Have you guys had a discussion of what your baby's gonna know
about this part of your life? Or, you know...
‐You know, we haven't. ‐Oh, we have a little bit.
I mean, I have strict perspectives on it, you know.
I think like there's two different worlds that Rafael's participating in.
And one of 'em is our married life, which is an amazing life.
You know, three baby cats, we have a baby on our way.
We've got like, we're building this house together.
And for me, personally, there's like a really clear longevity in that.
And the other world is this world from his past
that... that does not fall in line with the way I live.
‐Right. ‐And so, you know,
I have pretty strict boundaries with that.
In the time you were married to Tony, who was a Spaniard,
‐did you learn Spanish? ‐Mm‐hm. Not a single thing, no.
With Tony, or even like with other guys I've been with in the past,
like, I really, really did feel like I don't want them to know all of me.
And like they're dedicated to this portion of my life.
Which is like the romantic part of my life.
And they don't need to be a part of anything else.
The entire time she was married to Tony,
I was like, "When do I get to meet this guy?"
And she was just like, "I want to keep all my life parts separate."
So it was very nice to meet you right now.
We're super intimate. He's a part of everything in my life.
He knows everything. I don't lie to him.
Which I used to do a lot with, like, everyone else.
Since we were kids, we always had a relationship that we were really honest with each other.
And even if it was hurtful or shit you didn't wanna hear.
You and Sean started talking while you were still married?
Yeah, I mean, I've been in touch with Sean like the whole time.
I'd call her up and be like, "When are you leaving your husband?"
‐Shit like that. ‐So you've never had any respect for any of her husbands?
‐No, I never. ‐Yeah. You're like, "Fuck these guys.
‐They're not... I know you." ‐Right.
"You're meant to be with me." Knew it wouldn't last or something.
Yeah, for some reason I just... It was almost as if
like I knew she wasn't taking it seriously.
So are you scared then that... she could do that to you?
No. I guess I trust her.
‐I'm a liar by nature. ‐Yeah, me too.
And I know you can understand 'cause you're even more like that.
‐Yeah. ‐I still believe that there are necessary lies.
And like in order to live in a peaceful society,
I do think we still need to lie.
You're supposed to never lie.
‐No! I don't believe that. ‐On the way...
What if I was holding my baby right now,
and like let's say my baby was super fucking ugly.
Like, there's no denying it, he's ugly.
And I'm like, "Don't you think my baby's so cute?"
How are you not gonna offend me by saying no?
Um, not the cutest baby I've ever seen.
‐ ‐I'd be... I'd be very offended.
You got your homie that comes over that's dysfunctional, and like do you want that around your baby? No. Like...
But the scary thing I heard right now, 'cause it's... I'm dealing with this also.
I think everyone does, is family.
You still said you have family that's in the gang.
That's like a hard thing to say... I have a hard boundary with my mom, like,
I come over to be with you, you start talking about John 3:16, I'm out of here.
‐Every single day, I pray Jesus' name. ‐Amen.
She hides behind Bible verses. I go, "Mom, I'm having a hard time right now.
I need to talk to you about something." "Great. Ephesians..."
I go, "Come on, I'm trying to talk to my mom."
‐You wanna connect, like... ‐So I have all this, like,
religious abuse and my nieces now are like two and four.
I get PTSD when I go over there and I see her doing the same thing to them.
And I try to step in, I go, "Hey, Grandma believes that, but you don't have to..."
That's awesome that you're that good positive light in that kid's...
But it's like, if I have kids, I have to like maybe tell my mom she can't come over.
Don't get me wrong, I don't doubt that my kid is gonna have a lot of hardships.
He's definitely gonna have those moments where like his friends come up to him
‐and he's like... ‐"Um, I was looking at my mom's phone."
‐Mm‐hm. ‐"And I saw your mom's asshole gaping."
‐Mm‐hm. ‐"Mom! What do I... what do I tell him?"
‐I mean, I... ‐It's coming. That conversation is coming.
‐Of course. ‐Like the same way I talk to Rainn.
‐Yeah? ‐His kid is 15.
‐Yeah? ‐And it hasn't happened yet,
but he's like, there will be a day when all his kids figure out
‐his dad's Dwight. ‐We're gonna go out
and people are gonna recognize me as Dwight.
They'll be like, "Oh, I love you.
Can I have a picture with you?"
And just know, Walter, they don't really love me.
They don't know me. This love this character that I played.
I am not anything special. I'm just recognizable. 'Cause I was on a TV show.
You told me your favorite TV show is The Office, right?
‐Yeah. ‐Is that true?
Still true.
Actually, I had him play you.
‐Which I'll show you later. ‐What?
‐Yeah. ‐What does that even mean?
Hey, Mom.
Hi, son.
I'm mad at you.
Yeah.
I can imagine.
‐Why did you do that? ‐Life is very complicated,
as you'll come to understand. And who knows why we make the choices that we make?
You hear me?
‐I remember, if the answer's still the same... ‐Yeah.
The first time we had this conversation years ago...
‐Yeah. ‐...was if I ever have a kid...
‐Yeah. ‐...name change, plastic surgery,
and just never tell the kid and just...
‐Did I say I would do that? ‐I think so. You're like...
Yeah, I totally feel differently now.
I don't want to teach my kid that watching porn is bad.
'Cause that's not what I believe.
No, I don't think you should teach him
it's bad, but I'm saying, what are you gonna teach him?
My friend is about to give birth to a baby.
‐Okay. ‐So now I'm the baby grown up.
Asking my mom why she does what she does.
‐I'm the porn star? ‐Yeah.
‐Okay, you play yourself. ‐Okay.
‐And now I'm 15. ‐Okay.
‐Are you ready to do this? ‐Yeah.
I'll do it with you.
You seem like you have something you wanna talk about.
Mom, what the fuck...?
What...
You're a porn star?
Every fucking kid at school is making fun of me!
They fucking printed out posters! They're putting it on my desk!
I open my fucking locker door and there's a picture of you with dicks in your hand
‐and in your mouth! ‐Do you think what I've done is wrong?
Yes!
Sex is a really positive, beautiful thing.
It's nothing to be ashamed about.
What the fuck are you talking about? Can you imagine
going to school and everyone knows that your mom is a porn star?
I'd rather be fucking homeless than live with this level of embarrassment.
Okay, and scene. And... I got too in character.
No! Like, I definitely think that there are kids that would act like that.
I don't want to raise my kid under the impression
that I'm ashamed about, like, being a sexual person,
or having done porn, or being, you know, both a mother
and a wife and a sexual person all at the same time.
Sometimes when I look back and think about the stuff that I've done,
it was always really just to get approval from my father.
You know, he used to say things like, "I should have left you in Mexico.
I brought you here for a better life and you're over here screwing it up
by joining gangs and getting in trouble."
But I joined a gang because of his actions. You know?
I have different answers now. Do you know what I mean?
‐Yeah. Well, I'd love... ‐One of my theories is that like
‐my dad's a photographer... ‐Mm‐hm.
And he always filmed me and photographed me a lot
‐when I was really little. ‐Mm‐hm.
So I think somewhere in my mind
I equate being filmed to being loved.
But I was taking care of my father, I took care of my father for four years.
I was like his nurse, you know?
‐A lot of pressure to... ‐And it was a selfish reason.
I took care of my father because I wanted him to acknowledge me.
My father would soil himself and the fight was always
in regards to that and I'd make him a bath, put him in the bath,
and I'm cleaning him, you know?
He goes in on me and he's like, "Hey, the reason you enjoy this
is because you're a faggot, you like touching my genitalia.
‐You like touching me." ‐I think my fear of intimacy
translates into me being like hypersexual a lot.
Because I think by being sexual, I'm not being intimate.
‐Like emotionally intimate. ‐Right.
I think I do it to protect myself on a very subconscious level.
And I'm like, "Yeah, Dad, I love touching your soiled privates."
You know what I mean? "It's my favorite thing, you know, on this earth,
to be touching you," 'cause he would soil this whole area, you know?
‐So I... ‐But you were getting the opposite of what you were...
Yeah, what I was working for. So I end up just kind of...
I roughed him up, you know? I was so upset, man.
I was so angry. I get him out of the tub,
I grab the towel, I clean him,
but as I'm cleaning him I'm being aggressive.
Right? I'm being aggressive. I'm drying him aggressively.
I put his shirt on aggressively.
And I slam him on the bed.
I say some mean things like, "This is exactly why nobody
is around you or near you.
Because of the way you treat people.
You're an asshole. You're lucky you have me in your life."
For four years, I was taking care of my dad. That was my whole life.
I didn't have a girlfriend, I didn't have shit.
But my dad every morning, every fucking day, taking him to his dialysis appointment.
Taking him to the hospital, making him his food 'cause he was on a strict diet.
Bland‐ass shit that I would eat with him to encourage him to eat this bland shit.
And, um, I call some buddies, I go over there,
and I get high, smoke some weed, drink some beer.
And my mom, my mom gets off work and she calls me, she's all,
"Where the fuck are you? Why aren't you home with your dad?"
And I was like so pissed off, you know.
"Fuck him, I'm sick of his shit. I hope he fucking dies.
I'm tired of taking care of him."
And my mom's like, "Well, you got your wish."
Then my dad, he...
He vomited, he vomited and he choked on his vomit.
And I wasn't there.
So I get in my car and I drive to the house.
And he's there, you know, passed away.
You know, I had a lot of money back then.
You know, so I thought I'd make it up by throwing him this lavish‐ass funeral.
‐I fucking... ‐But he's gone now.
Yeah, then I was fucking... So then I wanted punishment.
So I started... anybody, you know. I'd fight whoever.
The bigger the guy, the better.
Yes!
‐I wanted to get my ass kicked. ‐Yes!
And I did some crazy shit.
And I went to jail. And I needed it, man.
‐I found peace. ‐Time out.
You know, I had no distractions, right?
Once I sobered up and everything kind of cleared up in my mind,
I was laying in jail and my dad came to me in a dream.
My dad came to me in a dream and it was as real as this conversation we're having.
‐What'd he say? ‐He said he loved me and that he forgave me
and it wasn't my fault and we had amazing dinner, we had a dinner,
we held hands, we...
I hear your story right now, and I hear your story of a mother who won't even hug you.
A father that's getting mad at you for helping him.
They don't even know how to give love.
And now it's transferred onto you.
There's something about you, when I see you, I'm like,
"Man, those guys are fucking cool, they have leather and they're tough."
But you're just sweet children, like loving people
that have had so much pain put on you,
that you had to, you had to, you had to fucking, like, protect yourself.
And then when I hear your father story, I hear your story.
You became your father. You're like, "Fuck you for loving me."
You don't let people get close to you.
How do you feel right now?
I feel very peaceful.
‐And positive. ‐That's good.
But in that way, I always think about that too.
I do... People are always like, "Oh, do you have any regrets?"
Whatever. But I do wonder like, is there such a thing?
Do you have regrets for anything?
‐'Cause then... ‐Do you?
No! And I feel the same way as you because I genuinely wouldn't
be in this place now if it weren't for every single thing
‐going exactly the way it did. ‐Right.
Rafa and I met 14 years ago, back when I was still drinking
and I was a complete mess. And then there was this decade gap
until we reconnected. And now, looking back on everything, I go,
"Why didn't we hook up sooner?" You know?
And it's like because I'm the best version of me right now.
♪ Who's the best? You're the best ♪
♪ You're the best, who's the best? ♪
♪ You're the best, you're the best ♪
♪ Who's the best? ♪
♪ You're the motherfucking best ♪
Back in the day when me and Asa were hooking up,
there was a time when I was like, "I think me and Asa would be perfect together.
We should just get married."
If this was an alternate world right now,
and it was us having the kid, it would be horrible for...
It would be the most tumultuous relationship.
We just want like a kind human being. That's it, really.
It can come in any form. We definitely don't want a DJ.
‐But like... ‐No DJs.
‐Please, dear God, please. ‐Absolutely no DJs.
‐Is this your guys' first kid? ‐Yeah. Yeah.
‐Wow. ‐And earlier when you were getting, you know,
you were breaking down a little bit and stuff and I just grabbed your hand
and put it... 'cause he was kicking.
And it was almost like... like I just...
They already have such a strong bond that it's like...
‐That's amazing. ‐You know, I don't know.
It's almost like he's like, "Hey, Dad. Don't worry. I'm here."
‐You know? It's pretty amazing. ‐Yeah.
I'm so excited to fall in love with you
in a different way. I feel like I keep falling in love with you in different ways.
And when you hold our son, I'll fall in love with you in a new way.
That's what I think I'm so excited about.
So can I say something nice to the baby?
‐Yes. ‐While I draw something?
‐Yeah. ‐All right. Stand up.
This is so crazy that there's a human inside this.
I know! There's a dick in me right now.
The littlest dick you've ever had.
Dear unnamed baby.
Uh, this is David, your uncle.
I just wanna give you all my blessings
and just tell you your mother is a strong, powerful,
amazing human being.
I just met your dad, Sean. He's pretty awesome.
They are gonna do the best job ever to raise you
and you're gonna be an amazing young man.
And you're gonna make your parents very proud.
And I wanna tell you right now, I love you.
And I can't wait to meet you.
And, uh, be nice to your parents, okay?
They've been very mean to themselves.
They've cuckolded themselves.
So they need you to be a good boy, okay?
All right.
‐Thank you for saying all those things. ‐Yeah.
That was, like, a really nice thing to say.
So awesome!
Babe, look at our hands! Oh!
Thank you, this is amazing.
I mean, you guys look like a painting. You guys look like art.
‐Man, those babies right here. ‐I love that.
Oh, God.
‐So I'm gonna have a baby. ‐What?!
‐Are you serious? ‐Yeah.
Dude! Do you know if it's a boy or a girl?
‐It's a girl. ‐Oh, my God! Our kids could totally have sex!
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