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Good evening. I'm Michael Douglas.

And I'm Glenn Close.

And it's our pleasure to say welcome to the Graham Norton Show.

Oh, so welcome to the show.

Lovely to see you. Everyone excited for Halloween tomorrow?

Well, to get you in the mood, I can tell you we've got a scarily good show for

you tonight.

Hey, singing for us later, look over there, it's the fabulous Sugar Babes!

Yeah!

latest single, Ghost.

Ooh, do you see? Spooky. Very Halloween-y. Very Halloween-y. But

first, who's trick-or-treating myself tonight?

Well, this BAFTA-winning Brit has starred in films like Star Wars, The

Rise of Skywalker, and as Whitney Houston in I Wanna Dance With Somebody.

Now she brings us the dark new thriller, Clayface.

It's Naomi Ackie!

Here she is!

I love this. You look great.

Thank you.

We have two of the stars of The Hunger Games, Sunrise on the Reaping. He is the

Oscar-winning star who shone in the critically acclaimed A Real Pain and

stole the show as Roman Roy in Succession. And she is the eight-time

Oscar nominee who gave children nightmares as Cruella de Vil and gave

grown men nightmares as Bunny Boiler Alex in Fatal Attraction.

Please welcome Kieran Culkin and Glenn Close!

with his fake love to action co-star.

He's the double Oscar-winning actor and producer of hits like Basic Instinct,

Romancing the Stone, and the iconic Wall Street.

His new memoir, One Hell of a Ride, tells the story of his remarkable life

and career.

It is the great Michael Douglas, everybody!

Sit yourselves down.

Lovely to see you. Welcome back to everyone this week. I think you've all

been on before. Lovely to see you all. Very nice.

As I said, it's Halloween tomorrow, so, Naomi Aki, I don't know if it's too

early to say happy birthday for November the 2nd. It's not my birthday!

It's not my birthday.

Right, I've got to put this straight. Since Star Wars, it went on Wikipedia

that my birthday was November the 2nd, and I was like, it's not, it's August

the 22nd.

So then I then got someone who was good at computer stuff to change it, and

someone keeps on going back and changing it back to November 22nd, so I get two

happy birthdays. They also said I was born in 19... 1992, which is a

1991 baby, so I was kind of like, keep the... Keep the one year. Keep the 1992,

but change it to my... Does November 2nd have any relevance in your life at all?

None. It's just a random... I have no idea what it's going to be.

That's a very weird... That's a committed, weird prank, yeah. Who are

you?

Now,

often we do a kind of a, how do you know each other?

Michael and Glenn, we know how you know each other. Yes.

Very well. Quite intimately.

Because it's 40 years. I mean, you know this. I know.

You'd never know it, would you? No, you really wouldn't. 40 years, wow.

Not too late for a sequel.

A prequel, a prequel, yeah, a prequel.

But here's the thing, Glenn Close, we won't dwell, but you have been nominated

eight times.

Never won. But now, next month... No, no, next month, next month,

next month, Glenn Close is getting her Oscar!

I paid to break my losing streak.

Have you got a very dusty speech?

No, actually, because every time I lost, I thought, ah, I don't think I could

have accepted with a speech as lovely as the person who just won.

You are a good actor.

They deserved it, really.

And so you're getting a special one at a special occasion?

Yes, the governor of the Academy, they vote to give honorary Oscars, and they

probably don't want to feel guilty any more.

Should have won with Fatal Attraction, she was nominated. That was her fourth

Fatal Attraction. She should have won.

Cher won that year.

Was that for Moonstruck?

Oh, wow.

I know that's what we all said

Great

performances of all time but share put

some gray in her hair. So there you go Now Kieran since you were lost here you

And take note, Glenn, one nomination, one win.

Well done. You got your Oscar for a real pain.

I didn't say it, he said it.

But no, there's an odd thing, because you were... Yeah, great pick, by the

way. There's not a better one? Why are you doing this?

That's the... Yeah, I don't believe it either.

I feel like Cher.

Yeah, that's what we said But you were there when Glenn won a Golden Globes.

Yes, I was actually don't think you know this but we my wife and I were sitting

right behind you and it was really sweet because You seemed genuinely surprised

that your name was called.

I felt like I knew you were gonna win I feel like the whole room did but you'd

like jumped up and The whole table stood we were plotting you were going and I

look at my wife. She's sitting down I go stand up and she goes And I'm like,

stand up. She goes, there's a guy standing on my dress.

And so she's like, it's probably off camera. Don't worry. We watched it back.

And she is clearly just... I'm not standing up for this bitch.

Not that impressed.

All right, let's get started tonight with Michael Douglas. His new

autobiography is called One Hell Of A Ride, I've got it here, and it is out

right now.

And I suppose the thing with... You must have been asked to write memoirs and

books before this point in time. Yeah, I have. So why did you cave?

I'm 82.

No, I just thought it was probably time.

I took a break.

You know, Dad wrote about, Kirk wrote about nine books.

He wrote a great autobiography.

And so I started thinking about legacies. You know, Dad and I together

have got probably 135 movies and over eight decades and all of that. Wow. And

all three of my kids are actors now, too.

But the real reason, my memory.

I'd forgotten so much. And I reached a point in life now where I realize the

only thing that matters is your friends, your family, and what you remember.

So I am, you know, doing this whole exercise and process of going back,

starting in 1944, and finding whatever information I could about the family.

It's been fabulous.

Got a whole bunch of new memory thoughts to keep in my mind there for at least a

day. But there is... But, Michael, there's so much detail in here.

Like, it reads as a... Obviously, it's a memoir, it's a story of your life.

Right. But you do a great thing where you pick out certain films and you do a

kind of deep dive into how they were made, the making of, what happened. Ten

pictures. How did you pick the ten?

Well, the most well-known, except one of them, Jewel of the Nile, was such a good

example of what can go wrong as a producer that I thought was a really

good example.

But I took it from the beginning to the end. And that was the original idea,

sort of a workshop book for people who want to learn about producing.

But then every picture had sort of...

interesting private stories, you know, intertwined. Yes. And then the producer

in me took over and said, let's just go for The Dirt.

Some sense runs the rock and roll, you know.

We'll get to The Dirt in a minute. I just want to go back to the year 1987.

And that was kind of the year when you feel like, you know, you moved out of

your father's shadow and you won the Oscar for Wall Street. And it was also

the year that you and Glenn made the highest grossing film of the year,

Fatal...

So you it's one of the movies you do a deep dive in in the book So there's a

bit I don't know how much of this, you know, Glenn so people didn't want Glenn

close to be in this film I say people you

We have somebody called the director and the producer. Nobody.

Everybody thought that Glenn was not right, you know, for the part.

And so we moved on, but her agent called and said, you don't understand, Glenn is

going to audition.

Now, Glenn had already got three Oscar nominations for actors.

You know, we said, we can't ask him. And she said, she's insisting.

And she came in, and I asked anybody to see this tape, and she blew us away.

We have never been so wrong in our lives. I remember looking at each other

feeling like total idiots.

She was in total command, and I forgot how close it was to the role when you

actually, that scene that you did for the audition.

Oh, that's right, yeah, yeah. Can you be discreet? Yes, be discreet. Yeah.

But the interesting thing in the book, and probably a lot of people who know

that movie don't know this, so...

Obviously a big hit but the original ending people audiences didn't like the

original ending. Oh my god Yes, well when I first read the script it was a

very film noir It ended with we had that fight his

Finger prints were on the knife and then I slit my throat to the to madam

butterfly, you know and Great and then he goes off to jail

Fabulous. Well... American audiences don't like that. I love that ending.

I love that ending. They don't like that.

And they did this long testing thing, which was kind of new.

It was... Testing, testing, testing. The audiences... Alex Forrest made them so

angry that they came back six months after we had finished the movie and

said, we're going to reshoot it. And I said, I'm not going to do it.

My character.

They wanted me to come in with a knife. They wanted me to

attack the wife. I said, I'm not going to do it. She's not a psychopath.

She's a pathetic, out of control woman.

And I fought and fought and fought. So I'm going to tell this story.

So I was in this meeting with Michael.

and Sherry Lansing and our other producer, Stanley Jaffe, and Adrienne, I

literally said, I'm not going to do it! I'm not going to fucking do it!

How would you feel? How would you feel if somebody was doing that to your

character?

And Michael kind of laid back and he said, babe, I'm a whore.

That's the most Hollywood thing I ever heard. That's amazing.

And then I did say to her, I said, the truth was that you had blown everybody

away. You were probably the greatest villain that had ever, ever lived.

I love how you said she's not a psychopath as well.

She boiled the money.

Yeah,

but she's not a psychopath. But why did she boil the money?

Because she's a fucking psychopath.

Anyway, so she was fabulous. And we finally...

came around to it, and I know, and it was a beautiful ending, and Glenn was in

her character, and it made sense, but it didn't work for the whole movie, because

she'd been so good, the audience just wanted to kill the bitch.

It was me, me, or Ed. Well, it was a great lesson, because I think it was so

upsetting to the audience that they needed a catharsis. And the easiest way

to come to catharsis is blood.

So... Give them my blood.

Yeah, that is quite rough.

And then they, you know, the last shot is going in on a picture of the nice

little family.

Yeah. We could go home happy. I just feel like, when I watch it, I'm like,

what happens afterwards?

Because in my head, it's like divorce, divorce, divorce.

Yes. Hard to bounce back. It's really hard to bounce back.

As you're wiping blood out of the tiles.

We OK?

I'm good.

You're not going to do it again, are you?

Don't make me do this again.

Shoot a woman.

And the other thing that struck me, of course, 40 years ago, there were no such

things as intimacy coordinators or anything.

So was it the two of you working those scenes out?

With our director? Yeah. With our director? Yeah.

I knew how kinky our director was. And I knew where my head was at.

You were pretty kinky yourself. So we had our first love scene.

We were in the kitchen.

And Glenn and I'm picking Glenn up, and I put her up on the .

And we do it one time, and it's pretty good, and Adrian...

Our director, Adrian, you know, he's a wonderful, like, childlike quality.

Like, I don't know what she's like, you want to help him.

And so he said, well, that's good, but is there anything else I can think of,

anything else I'm thinking?

And then he goes, well, how about, how about I put my hands back and I hit the

water, the water, and then, oh, that's good, that's good.

And then I take the water, I get my hands all wet, and I take the water and

I wipe out of Michael's mouth and I stick my fingers in his mouth.

LAUGHTER

This is so unseemly.

And the director and I look at each other and said, we were worried about

you.

My addition to that scene only was when we saw the replay. I said, well, this is

pretty, you know, hot.

So sometimes you have to, you know, find a way to release it. So I said, how

about then if I try to pick Glenn up and try to make you to the bed with my pants

down?

I would just kind of laugh, you know, and kind of release everything.

But Adrian didn't know. He kept putting off shooting the scene. He kept putting

it off. He's brilliant at, you know, blocking.

And it wasn't until he said, pigeons.

Pigeons at the window.

Now I'm ready to shoot the scene.

Wait, we've got the still.

Yeah, look. I noticed that pigeon. I was like, what the hell is that doing there?

I guess she thought it was, you know, cool.

So was that, that's a real, like that pigeon just arrived or he ordered some

pigeons? No, I guess he had a pigeon pen. Okay.

Wait, you're kidding. You have this like epiphany like Actors you must have felt

like really like we're having sex in his thing Reason

why it works so well. Is it so awkward? Yeah, so it's passionate, but it's also

funny Yeah, and it yeah, it was now sex scenes in the book aren't all in front

of the camera Michael There's quite a lot explain Well,

when you wrote the book, were you surprised at the number of people?

We were good friends, and then we were more than friends, and we remained close

friends.

Yeah, I was.

I was a little surprised.

I mean, I try to use the example, like, you know, we're one of the few

businesses, one of the earliest businesses, where men and women are

relatively equal. There were always needs for actresses and actors, and we

worked together.

And my mother, I remember, was in the theatre and going to dressing rooms and

seeing actors and actresses changing together.

And we're just comfortable with each other. And sometimes that gets carried

away. Yeah.

You say sometimes.

But all that ended. All that ended with the arrival of Wales' own Catherine

Zutacher. Oh, good.

She's been on the show a few times, and she told us about, you know, when you

met at the Deauville Film Festival.

But there's another additional bit of the story in the book where you have

that conversation about deciding, are you actual boyfriend and girlfriend?

Well, what happens, I met her in Deauville, and then we had a, what do

you call it, I courted her, I guess is the word, I courted her for about a year

and a half.

Oh, wow.

And you can see we hit it off.

And then basically... And basically, so... But she said, look, you know, if

we're going to do this, you've got to clean your act up and all of that. And I

was seeing some other people, you know.

I had been divorced for a while, my first marriage.

What are you looking at?

Look at that.

And so I had to get on the phone call and called five ladies.

Well, I found you could be very honest as long as you were not seeing more than

one person in the same town.

They knew that you were not, you know, you recently were divorced and you were

not planning it seriously.

But didn't you date more than one person at the same time? Never in my life.

Never dated more than one person?

No.

I wish I had, but I didn't.

I think it's an American thing, Michael.

I think it might be. Is it?

Really? I don't know. Kieran, help me out here, man.

I lost my voice.

Well, if you want lots of great stories like that, and I would say lots of movie

stories, When Hell Ever Rides is the name of the memoir, and it's out now.

Michael Douglas, everybody!

Thank you so much.

All right, Glenn Close and Kieran Culkin bring us The Hunger Games, Sunrise on

the Reaping. It is the latest instalment in the blockbuster dystopian franchise

and it opens in cinemas on the 20th of November.

So, this is... It's a prequel to the original three films.

Yes, 25 years before the original, the first original, 24.

24? Just to be specific, yeah. Oh, stop.

Is it?

24, and then, because the next one is the 75th Hunger Games, the second. Ah,

OK. So this is the 25th, or 50th Hunger Games in this one, so.

It's fine.

25 is fine. Just cut that out. OK.

So this is the 50th Hunger Games.

Yes. Yes.

No, no.

It is.

What's happening?

No, it's not, I'm right. No, this film, this film... Naomi, you are a fan of The

Hunger Games, aren't you? Yeah, I love them, yeah. OK, so you're all over this.

Which number of Hunger Games is it? Well... It's a second-quarter quill.

Yes. So it's second quarter. I'm right, it's the 50th.

I'm totally right. OK, great. Why is everyone doubting me?

Who do you play, Glenn? Let's go to easy questions.

I play Lucilla Sickle, who is vile.

Who is she?

She's the escort of District 12.

She's the one that picks the names out. She's done it for 25 years. She hates

them all.

And she just does it to keep her position in the capital and to get

another medal.

Well, we've got a clip of you as Drusilla, and you'll see this is quite a

transformation. This is Glenn Close.

And may the odds be ever...

And we're out.

Seamless, Drusilla.

Seamless. I have no idea how I just did that. I don't know.

Sheer professionalism, I suppose.

Great story for dinner parties.

And some solace. Yes.

Champagne. Oh, my gosh!

That's incredible!

It's incredible, isn't it?

Is any of that you?

Yes, it's mostly me the only prosthetic I have because I want to have a pig nose

So to do that, you have to pick you pick your nose. No You put your nose and we

had Surgical tape and then I had to have a prosthetic to put over that so you

didn't see the tape Everything else because in the book she stretched to the

nines and so it was like this All day and yeah, I think we've got a picture

of the contraption that did it all. Yeah

Yeah, see that that was all the strings that they let me loose it You know when

we were eating or something and then they just string me up again By the way,

there was one day that you showed up and you did oh I don't know how many hours

it took for you to get all that on get the wig on do the clothes I think we did

two takes of you literally going What

a nightmare that was

And, Kieran, you play the role... Originally, it was Stanley Tucci in the

later films. Yeah.

So, here's the idea, you're Stanley Tucci 24 years earlier. Yes, earlier,

yeah. So, how did you approach it? Like, did you watch Stanley Tucci and kind of

go, OK, what would he have been like all those years ago?

For me, it was sort of hard for me to figure out, because, firstly, when I was

asked to do it, I thought I was just...

terrible casting.

I was like, he's great. Also, everyone loves what Stanley Tucci did in the

movie, so that's way too nerve-wracking a situation to walk into. I feel like

I'm setting myself up for failure, like, oh, you're not what we love.

But that was sort of debating between, like, you know, having the freedom to

find the character myself and make it my own and not be bound to what another

actor's choices were. But I also felt like I couldn't just ignore it and

disappoint fans and, like, what they were expecting.

So I remember actually I was talking to my wife about I was trying to figure out

like which one I should do said I kind of just want the freedom to create it

and she was like, why don't you pick one thing that Stanley did which I think was

Brilliant advice from someone who's like not an actor and it was like good I was

like, oh that actually helped me because it felt like and when I talked to the

director He said we love what Stanley did it was great, but don't do any of

that stuff Don't do like the teeth the hair don't do any of the things because

just make it your own But I still felt like there needed to be something that

like connected. Yeah

What was it?

I'm not going to say it. It's way too actor-y. What it was was... I'm with

you, Naomi. I thought we were going to get there.

I just found a thing, as long as it makes sense that, like, there's some

sort of... Aw.

What was it?

I'm not going to want to say. I'll put it in my book in a few years. Someday,

people...

Someday people will see it in the order of the actual story and he'll be...

He'll make sense.

He'll be you.

You'll be the first, you'll be the original. We've got a clip of you, Cesar

Flickerman. This is you preparing the tributes for the games.

Look alive, children.

Well, he still can.

Hello, I'm Cesar Flickerman, obviously.

And over the course of the next three days, we... ..all have to work together,

don't we?

to turn you into an irresistible mix of noble heroes and mean warriors.

Tears are not a good look.

Hi. Yeah, you.

Wipe. Dry. No tears anymore.

Yeah? From here on out.

Sunflower's cute, though.

Sunflower? Daisy?

Which is it?

Sunflower.

And, Kieran, since the last time we saw you, you, as I say, won an Oscar, but

also you were on Broadway.

Yeah. Glengarry Glen Ross.

And it sort of... Oh, there you all are. It was a kind of strange geographical

reunion with your sister from Succession. Yeah.

Yeah, she was on Broadway at the same time, actually.

And I think... I think... I don't know where you're going with this. Is this

the thing where I pass her on...? Yeah.

So, it was the opening. So, Sarah Sanuk was doing...

Picture Dorian Gray, which was brilliant. She did it here first, and

brilliant here and there. But I was on the way to work, and some people thought

this was staged, but I was just in a car on the way to work, and I was passing

by, and I'm like, oh, there's Peter Freeman from Succession, and Juliana.

Oh, my God. And I just rolled down the window, and I was like, hey, guys, I

love your show.

He's like a dick. Yeah. When you say leaned out the window.

That's a very flattering picture.

I know, you're very well dressed.

You like your bracelets. I do. I got only a couple today, but yeah. But did

you take... So you have to take all those off, do the show, and then you put

them all back on again? You know, they're little rubbery things, they come

off like that. OK. You slide them off and take the time to slide them on with

all the rings and all the crap and all that. OK, fair enough. You're always

giving me shit. Yeah.

Yes, I am.

I'm glad you dressed up, because I was wearing a T-shirt. Yeah.

And we've talked about Succession on the show before, but one thing I never knew

that you had on Succession, but you must have been talking about it somewhere,

where you had... wealth consultants yeah give you tips on how the uber wealthy

live yeah i don't know that i really have the conversations with them but

they the the writers would and stuff and they would try to tell me things like

that like one of the major things was yeah you wouldn't wear a coat because

you just walk out of the building get into your car you get out of the car you

go to where you're going so we just were not given coats or bags things like that

they did tell me once they were like oh well you have to um duck your head when

you are going to go in the helicopter

Oh, yeah.

Me?

I'm not... Yeah, and I saw... I see, you know, Matthew McFadden, who's, like, 6

'3", 6'4", something like that. He just... He did a little one of these,

and what am I supposed to do? What am I...? If I hopped, I'm not as tall as

him, so I'm not doing that. But, actually, the consultants were like,

that was good. Don't duck your head. These people get on helicopters all the

time. Just walk straight on.

And the safety people are like, no, no, no, you gotta...

Yeah. But in the world of Succession, you feel like there's a direct line

back to kind of the greed and the power and the money of Wall Street.

You know, that Gordon Greco, that character. And in the book, you talk

about how surprised you were at the public's reaction to Gordon Greco.

Well, yeah.

I mean, everybody would come up to me always half-lit if they were, you know,

from Wall Street.

and say, you're the guy who got me. I wanted to go to Wall Street. I said, I

was the villain.

I was the bad guy. No, no, no, no. You're the guy.

And, you know, so I guess the clothes and everything else and power and evil.

Yeah. People like that.

But also, I was thinking this. So in that one year, so you play Dan in Fatal

Attraction, then you play Gordon Greco, and they're both on paper...

quite bad people.

Yes. Do you think you were just too likeable?

You know, if audiences just liked Michael Douglas? I like playing bad

guys, and guys like villains.

We all love villains.

Glenn, I remember after Fatal Attraction, there were those, you know,

probably the most hated woman in America.

I know.

Yeah. I walked into, you know, a grocery store, and there it was.

And the National Enquirer, the most hated woman in America, and I kind of

went... LAUGHTER

Then I thought, are they talking about me personally?

Did you then avoid playing a villain at all? No, I... I know you didn't think

she was a villain, but let's... I think the next thing I did was Dangerous

Liaisons. Oh, OK, yeah.

Oh, my gosh.

And,

you know, similarly, Ciara, do people think when they meet you they are going

to meet Roman Roy from Succession? Yeah, it actually gives me a lot of freedom to

be rude to them on the street.

Are you? Yeah, yeah, yeah, fuck off.

Awesome, dude.

Because, Naomi, you played Whitney Houston. You were so good in that movie.

Yes.

But there was an odd bit of the character that stayed with you.

Oh, yeah, I'm told.

I am told that I was dancing like Whitney up until about a year ago.

I just had, like, the shoulders.

I would just do a lot of, like...

But I don't like to think that I hold on to characters. I quite like to think I

just cut and I cut it off, but apparently I was dancing like her for...

I mean, that was five years ago that I filmed that and had a bit of her shuffle

in me still. For three years.

Four. Four years.

I don't dance a lot, Greg.

But, Glen, oddly, the character that you say stayed with you isn't a film

character, is it? No, Norma Desmond.

From Sunset Boulevard. Yeah, you were so good at that. And it was like being

haunted, because all of a sudden I was back in my house, I was making lunch for

my little girl, and it was like, in the chair was Norma Desimson.

Children?

Sandwiches?

Where am I?

It was very bizarre.

Wow. Did you take a lot of singing lessons when you were really young?

I was the worst singer in the whole company when we started, and every night

for half an hour before a curtain, I would work with our conductor.

Wow. Slowly developing my voice. And, of course, Andrew Lloyd Webber, composer of

Sunset Boulevard, you're about to be reunited with him. Yes, I'm very

excited. Because you're back in the West End in January.

Yes. Tell the people who you're playing.

I'm playing Harrod.

In Jesus Christ Superstar I

can't quite figure out yet

what I'm gonna do. Maybe this?

Not this version, no. I saw it this week. It's such a great production.

Such a great production.

You are the big finish. You're the final week at the Theatre Royal Drury Lane.

If you want to see Glenn, don't just book tickets, you're very specific,

you're in for that week. So it's the 4th to the 9th of January if you want to see

Glenn. And, of course, you can see Glenn and Kieran in The Hunger Games' Sunrise

On The Reaping from the 20th of November.

Very good.

Hi, Kieran.

It's so cool.

Naomi Aki brings us Playface. It's in cinemas now.

It is, I'm happy to tell you, the number one movie in America right now. Yeah,

that's cool.

I know, congratulations.

So,

Playface is part of Batman's universe.

DC universe.

He's one of the lesser known. But it's not a Batman movie.

Batman is not in this one.

But we have Clayface, played by Tom Rhys-Harris, who is incredible.

And it's a body horror, and it's a kind of gothic romance, and it's really

disgusting, and it's... It's so gross, and it's so much fun to watch.

But this is kind of Clayface's origin story. Yeah, this is his origin story,

how he gets to become the villain, and...

It's so much fun to watch. And who are you?

I play Caitlin Corr, who is a... I always forget this bit.

She's a nanotechnologist.

LAUGHTER So this character didn't stay with you as much as Whitney did? No.

No, and she basically is, like, really, really smart, and she comes up with

nanotechnology to help... You know, nanotechnology. You know!

LAUGHTER

I graduated in it.

And she kind of helps him. His character is disfigured in it. He's, like,

completely mutilated.

And she helps his face go back, but it helps too much and then it gets all

weird. Oh, no.

The technical term in nanotechnology. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Too many nanos, it got all weird.

All right, we've got a taste of the trailer for Clayface.

Here it is.

Show me.

Show me.

What do you want,

Mr. Egan?

I want my life back.

I know you. You're famous.

It's a tragedy what they did to him. Boo!

I'd like to volunteer for human trust.

This isn't cosmetic surgery.

Even if it kills me,

I'll be better off than I am now.

Matt!

Matt!

What?

I'm okay.

You okay?

I'm okay.

I feel great, actually.

Tom Rees-Harris, he... Is it CGI or is it...? It's

prosthetics. He went through 18 different stages of prosthetics with

this and it's actually just incredible.

He had to be in the chair for, like, hours and hours and I'd come in, hair

already braided, and I'd be like, hi, guys!

Oh, I'm so tired.

Halfway through the day, I'm exhausted.

It must have been so lovely for the rest of you. Oh, mate, it was delightful.

I was Mary Sunshine.

Like, it was so much fun anyway. I feel like horror films, filming them, are

more fun than any other type of film. Really? Why is that?

I just... I'm a horror nut as well.

Like, I'm obsessed with it.

And I just love how you can be one second and be like...

And then they're like, cut, and you're like... It's jokes.

So, I love it. I love the fake blood and I love the guts and I just, like... Very

greatly, Naomi.

You know, you are in one movie and you're also in another that came out

tonight. Has it come out tonight?

Yes. Oh, yeah?

Yeah.

You should probably tell us about it.

This is I Love Boosters.

Yes, yeah. This looks really good fun.

It's... Oh, my gosh, this is, like, completely different.

It's a... Boots Riley directs it. It's about fashion, but also about, like...

consumerism, also about the global community, how we can come together and

fight for a better cause for everyone.

But it's wild.

I mean, the costumes are insane. It's so colourful. We had an insane time doing

it. There's five main women in it, and I feel so sorry for Boots, because it was

like herding cats the entire time. I mean, yeah.

So, that's out.

But also, don't forget, you can also see Naomi in Clayface, and that is also in

cinemas now. Very good.

OK. It is time for music. This Brit Award-winning T.O. took the pop world by

storm with number one hits like About You Now, Push The Button and Freak Like

Me. Now performing their latest single, Ghost, from their first new album in 16

years, it's Sugar Babes.

Married that body a long time ago, thought myself a deep, dark hole.

Put you inside, yeah, just to free my soul.

It was ritual, had a funeral.

Everybody came, they knew I was there to let go.

And I did, in my own sweet time, for my own peace of mind.

Yes, I did.

Yeah, I made that bed.

Yeah, I even changed the linen.

But you're still all up in it. And it shows that you still live with the ghost

of us.

Sometimes the mask is slipping and it shows that you're still thinking the

most of us.

When you're the one who burned it down.

When you kill the lights and it hits home.

When you're terrified of being all alone.

That's why you live with the ghost, the ghost, the ghost, the ghost of us.

Well, it's so you if you laugh when I say you're the monster in my past. You

always work way back when.

You shattered all I had Made me walk on broken glass I got the pieces out But it

took me ages And I don't know Why you think you're in control

So we split up friends in half. You take those and I'll take these. No returns

and no receives.

It don't matter to me. It's not that deep.

And it shows that you still live with the ghosts of us.

Sometimes your mask is slipping and it shows that you're still thinking the

most of us.

When you're the one who burned it down.

When you kill the lights and it hits home.

When you're terrified of being all alone.

That's why you live with the ghost, the ghost, the ghost, the ghost of us. Thank

you for the memories falling under debt to me. Take it to the cemetery.

I can tell you this for free. One of us needs very...

And I know it isn't me When you kill the lights

And it hits home And you're terrified Of being all alone

And

it shows That you still live with a ghost around

As you're sipping and it shows That you're still thinking the most of us

When you're the one who's burning down We kill the lies And get in his

home

Thank you so much for that performance. Your voices sound so great together.

Thank you. So beautiful.

I know someone who's very happy to see you on the couch, Naomi Arki.

I'm a huge fan.

Thank you.

This is great.

I love you too.

Stop right now.

I didn't know you were going to be here today. Yeah. And I posted you on my

Instagram. Stop it, really? To do a great interview, yeah.

Bye.

That that go sets the single and that is off the upcoming album sugar babes

single out now Now the album doesn't matter what February.

Yeah. Yes, maybe the 12th coming up

State night. No, definitely the 12th. Is it already?

I never understand

I was thinking Christmas would be nice, Christmas.

I know.

But we've got... There's a lot of special things coming up, so we're super

happy, yeah.

What? We'll give you a copy.

No, thank you very much.

And in the interview, you said this is kind of like a full-circle moment, this

album. Lots of full-circle moments. Yes.

So, for those who don't really know, we've been, like... We started the show

when we were 12 years old. Yeah.

so it's been such a journey yeah so when people go we grew up with you and

they're like how can you look the same it's like because we started when we

were like six months quite literally no no there are all those pictures of you

guys in school it's unbelievable yeah yeah yeah yeah do you find them quite

embarrassing yeah yeah it's definitely been a full circle moment obviously

everyone knows our history and we've been through you know a lot of different

things but we decided to get back together like 14 years ago and we just

you know we got our name back and yeah we just want to show everyone that it's

uh it doesn't matter AGI can reinvent yourself and you know. And you're going

back on tour?

Yeah, we are.

In smaller venues, which we like.

It's called an intimate venue.

Yes. Yes, intimate, yes.

Which we much prefer, by the way. We do. We did the O2 and we loved it.

I was there, it was great.

Oh, yes, of course.

But I always prefer smaller venues, because then you get to, like... You can

see everyone.

Exactly. I prefer the big ones, because I feel like you can't see anyone.

The smaller venues, you can see everyone's faces react, and that can be

nerve-wracking.

Who... Which of you is the big Fatal Attraction fan?

I think we all are. I mean, all of us are. Yeah, we all are. I mean, honestly,

like, in my house, just growing up. And it's so funny, like, meeting you in real

life, you're just, like, so... I was really afraid of you, like, growing up,

because I was... You played the character so well.

And, yeah, I just... I have a question. Do you think the character was a

psychopath?

A little.

You know, I was so young.

I am a huge fan. We all are but also I think they just don't make films like

that anymore.

They don't make

It's just the film is completely different. I get what you mean.

Film is completely different.

Yeah, yeah, that's how you saw them.

Sugar Babes, it's absolutely lovely to see you again. Thank you for that

performance. Good luck with the album when it comes out and your intimate

tour. Sugar Babes, everyone!

So good to see you.

Right, that is nearly it. Before we go, just time for a quick visit to the big

red chair.

Oh, hello.

Hello. Hi, what's your name? I'm Louise. I'm from Leeds. Louise from Leeds. And

what do you do in Leeds? I teach Spanish.

Oh, lovely.

Seems unlikely, but there you go.

People in Leeds want to speak Spanish.

And Louise is the woman to go to.

OK,

who do you teach it to? Just, like, kids or...? Nursery school.

It's true, I'm not making it up.

That is a posh nursery.

Time for Spanish!

All right, Louise, off you go with your story. So, I was on a student exchange

in Spain when I was about 16 with a friend of mine. Oh, yeah. And we went

out... for a day with my friend's family, and the mother was trying to be

really nice to me, speaking to me in Spanish, and she said... She asked me if

I had any pets, like, in Spanish.

And I had a guinea pig, didn't know how to say it, so I said the closest thing,

which I thought was cornejo, which is a rabbit, but I actually said, Tengo un

cojón, which means I have a testicle.

And then I carried on speaking and said it's...

Brown a little bit fluffy and it's called

guest, James Blunt, Severance Starr, Tramiel Tillman, Bridgerton's Nicola

Coughlan, Great Scott Alan Cumming, and the one and only Dame Judi Dench. I'll

see you then. Good night, everybody.

I think it was after you were cast, they had quite a different vision of Jean-Luc

Picard, that he wasn't going to be the way he turned out to be.

Well, yeah, they thought he should be French, for one thing.

And did you do it French?

I did a recording, a taping, which must be somewhere in the vaults of Panama

Pictures, where we experimented with the French accent.

Would you like to hear a sample?

Oh, yes, go on. Yes.

OK.

Spice.

The final frontier.

These are the voyage of the Starship Enterprise.

They didn't use it.