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Hi, everybody.
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Well, these are indeed some challenging times
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and I know, like many of you,
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I've been thinking about what all of this means a lot.
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What I realize
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and know for sure
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is that this is a big test for our humanity.
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And this is a moment
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that we have an opportunity
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in the midst of all of our fears and disruption
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to really rise
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and I know that so many people are feeling
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a sense of anxiety and fear
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and uncertainty in this moment.
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I wanted to be able to offer some solace,
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some comfort, some hope
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and, in doing so,
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speak to people who were actually going through it
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and getting through it,
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speak to thought leaders who can add some perspective,
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to let us all know that we are not alone,
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that we are indeed in this together,
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and that we can come out on the other side of it
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stronger than we were.
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And so I have started these Oprah Talks
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in order to do just that,
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to let everybody know we are not alone.
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And today,
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I have the pleasure of speaking to Idris Elba
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and his wife, Sabrina,
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who are also safer, not at home,
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but quarantined in New Mexico.
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Thanks for joining us.
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- Morning, Oprah. Hi. - Morning. Morning, Idris.
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- Hi. - Morning. Hi.
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Well, Idris Elba, thank you so much
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for doing this interview with me.
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I know that many people have asked you
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and you've said absolutely not,
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but you said yes to me, so thank you so much.
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You're welcome. Thank you.
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Yeah, I've been avoiding the sort of mainstream media
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in terms of doing interviews.
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I want to talk to you as a friend
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but also as someone, I think,
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whose journalistic approach to doing things like this,
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in times like this, is probably one of the best, so.
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Well, thank you.
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Where are you quarantined and how are you?
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I'm in New Mexico...
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Where I was about to start filming.
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I'm okay. I'm okay.
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I feel fine.
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Been checking my temperature every day.
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Feel good. The air here–
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How high has it been?
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How high has the temperature been?
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I think the highest has been 98.
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- Mm. - 98.
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- That's pretty okay. - Yeah.
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I mean... [laughs]
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I really haven't witnessed any major symptoms
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in this time.
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And I'm feeling okay, you know, mentally.
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The rest, if I'm really honest, has been incredible.
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Just to be able to sit still.
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I never sit still,
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and so from a mental point of view,
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I feel pretty focused and been okay.
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So it's been a few days now
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since you posted that you had, you know, COVID-19,
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and I think that video, the last time I checked,
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is, like, 33 million views.
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[chuckles]
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So a lot of people are concerned
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about you and Sabrina.
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Why did you decide to go public?
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Um...
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Well, you know, listen,
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you know, COVID-19 has come to a sort of pressure point now,
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but for the last two weeks,
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it's been a talking point,
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and I really felt that a lot of people
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just didn't know what was gonna come, what was happening.
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It didn't really feel relatable.
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You know, there were a bunch of theories
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going around that, you know, it's a conspiracy,
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is it even real?
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This, that, and the third.
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And when I got tested
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and came back positive, it became very real.
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It was always real for me, but it became very real.
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And I just felt compelled
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to tell people that this is very real.
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I think that, you know,
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someone like myself in the public eye,
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you know, can press a button
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and 30 million people will get a message
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the next day or in the same day,
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I think it's a really important component
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in the messaging around COVID right now.
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Because where I was before I tested positive–
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I didn't know what was what.
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The media does a great job of scaremongering
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in times like this.
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You know, even just in the presentation of the news,
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it's very dramatic, doesn't feel factual,
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and it feels very, sort of, manipulative
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if you don't mind me saying, you know?
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And so I just wanted, you know, to tell people
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that this is real for me,
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make it very real for you.
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And I saw on one of your videos
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that you were inspired by Tom and Rita.
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- 100%, yeah, yeah. - Yeah.
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You know, Tom being in, I suppose,
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a high-risk category
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while on set being on a film,
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you know, came out immediately, which is the right thing to do,
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100%.
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- Film sets are incubators. - Right.
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Essentially a super-spreading cell, if you like.
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So many people work in our industry.
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I think Tom did the right thing
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and so I was definitely inspired by him coming out,
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being quite open and transparent about it.
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And, you know, I spoke to my wife about it and I said,
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"Look, I think really should say something,"
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and she said, "Yeah? You know, let's do it."
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How were you–
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I know you've explained this before,
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but for the 30 other people
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who weren't a part of the 33 million who've seen the tape,
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can you explain how you came to get a test
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because a lot of people, obviously,
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haven't had an opportunity to be tested,
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even those who wanted to be tested.
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So explain to us how that came to be.
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Well, it came to be
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because, you know, it broke in the news
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that someone that I'd been in the public eye with
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a week ago, or a week prior, tested–
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- March 4th. March 4th. - March 4th, exactly.
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Yeah, had tested positive for COVID.
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My company, the film company I'm working with,
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immediately thought that it would be a risk,
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not only for myself, my family,
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but the production
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and the people surrounding the production
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if I was exposed, so that was an immediate risk.
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Because they had seen you with this person.
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[Idris] Yes.
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So immediately, they arranged
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for a private doctor.
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You know, most film sets have arrangements
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with private doctors in order to help cast and crew
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in times of illness
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and so that doctor came to visit me,
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understood immediately that I was exposed,
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gave me a mask, put it on my face, and said,
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"Look, you're not showing the symptoms
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that we've been recognizing,
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but I think it's important
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and it is important to the film company that you're tested,"
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so he tested me.
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He did explain to me that I'm very lucky
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to get a test because he has one of three left.
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Wow.
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And I said–
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You know, I was appreciative.
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I said, "I'm hoping that it comes back negative."
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I'm just hoping that for the peace of mind
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of the film and everyone that I'm working with
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we should do this immediately.
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And that's how I got tested.
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You know, I didn't–
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Had I not been on the film set,
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I think I would have not been able to have gotten a test
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as easy as I did.
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I feel very fortunate in hindsight
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now that I have taken a test
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because I certainly quarantined myself from that day
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and haven't been out since or around other people.
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How long are you gonna be quarantined now?
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[Idris] That's a good question, Oprah.
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I really don't know the answer to that.
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You know, whether it's a case
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of being quarantined from the time I was exposed
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or the time I was tested, that's unsure for me right now.
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I do know that, essentially, at some point,
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I'm gonna have to retest
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since I haven't shown any symptoms.
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I'm past the incubation period.
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I think there's another test to have at some point.
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I'm not sure when.
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And considering how difficult it is to get tests,
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that could be...whenever.
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So this is so unusual.
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And it's why I'm glad you're talking to us
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'cause you still have no symptoms,
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your temperature's still 98.6,
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you don't feel anything.
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So for all intents and purposes,
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you wouldn't know still that you have this virus.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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That is–
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You know, I'm glad you brought that up
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because I think that's a real key component here.
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I could be in the public.
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I could be at home amongst my fam–
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I could be still spreading it
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and I have no symptoms, you know?
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I think that the doctor explained to me
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that possibly I had symptoms, didn't realize it.
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You know, when I met him,
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I had some headaches,
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little bit of an achy body.
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I put that down to A: being in a higher altitude
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and B: traveling a lot.
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I'd just finished another job
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five, ten days prior
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and was moving on to this job.
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I didn't have much of a break in between
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and typically, you know, one gets run down, gets tired,
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and those are the symptoms of that.
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But I had no real symptoms
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as it pertains to COVID.
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So yeah, it's interesting and worrying
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that people are possibly carrying this disease,
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seemingly okay,
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but seemingly can spread it just as easily.
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Are you–
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are you concerned at all, Idris,
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that you were in contact with people
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before you know you had it who might also be infected?
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Yeah, 100%. In the time period from my exposure,
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which was March 4th,
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I was around my son,
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his nanny, my friends.
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I was around my mother.
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I was around my wife, one of her friends.
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And then I did my whole journey to New Mexico and my work.
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I did– [clears throat] Excuse me.
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You know, there's a–
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I went to–bought a guitar while I was here.
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[chuckles]
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And not to mention the actors
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and the people that I worked with in rehearsals.
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So yeah, the–you know, when I follow my trail back
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from the time I was "exposed"
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to the time I quarantined,
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I saw a bunch of people,
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which is a very typical case of someone who doesn't know.
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And secondly,
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you know, there's no telling
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when I was exposed within that time period.
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You know, so far, everyone that I've spoken to
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who I have been exposed to is fine.
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No showing symptoms.
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My son is fine, as well.
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Apart from driving his mother crazy around the house.
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But so far, everyone is okay.
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So are you concerned at all
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because the CDC
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and the World Health Organization
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have included asthma sufferers
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on the list of people who are also most at risk–
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and we all know that you have asthma,
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so is that a concern– deeper concern for you?
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Even though you have no symptoms.
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Yeah, it's a big concern for me.
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I've had asthma all my life.
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Secondly, I'm in higher altitude at the moment,
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which makes breathing even more difficult.
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So yes, I'm very concerned about that.
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Spoke to the doctor about that and he just said,
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"Look, you know, you need to keep a specific watch out
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for the symptoms on your respiratory system."
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I used an inhaler.
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I've had to use it quite a bit because of–
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I think because of the altitude.
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But yeah, I am–I am definitely worried about it, yeah.
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So when we saw the video, Sabrina was behind you,
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and I know a lot of people were, you know,
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people who have something to say about everything,
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were concerned also that she was so close to you.
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You all are now enclosed together.
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Is she there?
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Yeah, Sabrina's here with us, yeah, she's here.
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- Can we talk to Sabrina? - Yeah, come on in.
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- Yes. - Hey!
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Hey! Hi, Sabrina.
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- Hey, how are you? - So everybody can see you.
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I'm good. You all aren't social distancing.
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Have you been tested? Have you been tested?
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I have. I've been tested.
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Actually, I found out this morning, Oprah,
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that I tested positive.
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So you know, I'm not surprised.
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As soon as I heard that Idris was potentially exposed,
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I mean, I was on my way anyways,
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and I wanted to be with him.
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I think that's an instinct as a wife.
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You just wanna go and take care.
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And you know, we didn't change the way we inter–
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I could have made a decision
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to put myself maybe in a separate room
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or stay away and I'm sure that people
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are making those decisions
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and they're tough decisions to make,
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but I made the decision to want to be with him
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and, you know, still touch him.
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- And you know, so. - Yeah.
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I mean, you know, we were, on the alleged day of exposure,
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we were together at home.
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- Yep. - And had been together
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right up until I had departed to come fly.
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So at any point then,
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and prior to us knowing,
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you know, exposure was...
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you know, if I'd caught it,
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she'd certainly caught it in that time period as well,
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so, you know, I think, you know, people were...
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are right to have highlighted that, you know,
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show–you know, spatial distance is important.
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I think, given the context of the video,
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which was really about, you know, me telling the world
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what's happened to us,
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we weren't thinking about that specifically.
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You know, Sabrina wasn't sitting there
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thinking about her face or touching her face or whatever.
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We were sort of compelled to share our message.
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And on hindsight, we made a calculated decision
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as a family to sort of just, you know,
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stick together through this.
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Mm-hmm.
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And more than anything, we're hoping that...
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that messaging of togetherness is really important,
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except social distancing is very, very important
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and, you know–
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but at this time, you know, my wife stood by me.
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Are you feeling any symptoms or are you symptom-free?
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I'm not. I mean...
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It could be similar to Idris.
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I mean, we're in a high altitude.
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It could be that I'm confusing, you know, seasonal allergies
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as maybe symptoms,
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but I don't feel anything that would, you know,
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come to what people would now expect
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to be a symptom of Coronavirus,
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which is really strange.
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And I mean, it might change in the coming weeks.
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Mm-hmm.
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And we'll keep everyone updated,
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but it is worrisome that we're both sitting here, two people,
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and everyone that we know that we've been in contact with,
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all asymptomatic,
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so it's a little bit worrisome.
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Everybody talks about spending time with their families
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and, "I wish I had more time to spend with my family."
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And you were saying–
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also, Idris said this is one of the first times
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that you've just been able to be with yourself and family,
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but can there be too much time with your family?
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[laughter]
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We'll let you know.
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In a week maybe.
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Check back in a week.
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[laughter]
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You know, I feel very fortunate
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that we're able to have all this.
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I mean, you know how busy Idris is.
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- Yes. - Like...
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We've both been so busy and it's so nice
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to just be able to connect and spend the time together
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and, you know, I mean, I think we're thankful for that.
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If anything, it's a silver lining.
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Yeah.
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Are you learning things about each other
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you didn't know?
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When you're in this close proximity
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where you actually cannot remove yourself,
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do you learn things about each other you didn't know?
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- Are you learning things? - Yes. Yes.
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- Okay. - Yes.
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- And what are you learning? - Annoying.
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That's the word. Annoying. Oh, my goodness.
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[laughter]
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As she said, I don't know if you caught
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that little bit of shade, you know,
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she's young and I'm–I'm old.
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Oh! I didn't mean it like that.
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- No, I'm joking. No. - No.
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Honestly, it's been okay so far.
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We've distracted ourselves with video games,
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we're playing chess,
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we're clicking a lot together, which is nice.
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You know, in your original video,
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one of the things that struck me is,
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you spoke for a moment about the divided world
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we live in right now and I think you actually–
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you said we can all feel it and it's bull–.
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And...
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You were saying that this now is a time of solidarity.
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How do you see this moment for us as a world of people?
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I think it's a very sobering moment
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for this modern world.
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You know, bearing in mind, I think there was–
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is it the Black Plague? What plague was it?
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Yeah, the Black– I mean, however long ago.
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One of the plagues that they called the Black Plague
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was, like, 200 million people died in this plague.
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And not so far off Spanish Flu, I think.
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- And then Spanish Flu. - Spanish Flu in 1918, yes.
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- Yeah. - And Ebola.
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And you know, we– [stammers]
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It's really interesting when you think about
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those pandemics that have gone in the past,
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this one has seemed to get the most reaction
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and attention from the world wide,
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because the whole world is involved.
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When Ebola was at its crisis,
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it was a small part of West Africa,
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and I daresay, not many people cared as much
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because it was a "them" problem,
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as opposed to an "us" problem.
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But now it's an "everyone" problem.
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It's a dangerous pandemic.
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And I really, really think
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that people need to reflect on how we deal with this.
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You know, fast forward to a year and we're past this.
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What do we want to say about the human race?
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How do we feel about each other then?
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Are we still going to be at high pressure, as we are now?
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Distancing each other, political warfare.
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You know, are we still gonna have
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the same angst that we do now?
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Or are we gonna be a better race, a better nation?
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And that's what I'm really–
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You know, one of the things that I think about all the time
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is, like, when I look back on this,
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did I do the right thing for others?
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You know, ourselves are misfortunate
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to have this disease, but actually, you know,
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us spreading the word
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and getting people to understand
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that it's real for us and it should be real for you
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is a token of, you know, good will,
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to try and get people to care for each other
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a little bit more, you know?
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We all use social media now
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and it's an incredible tool to connect to each other,
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but people use it to troll and spread hate.
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- Yeah. - We should stop–
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We should stop doing that, like, now.
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It should be uncool to troll anyone.
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If you have nothing positive to say in your text,
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just don't say it, you know?
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I think it's– [stammers]
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I've experienced that it's the opposite,
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that people have nothing to do
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and so trolling is what some people have developed
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as their hobby right now.
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- Yeah. - Yeah.
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Yeah, it's very true.
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But you know, all of that is very traceable.
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It's all there. It's your digital footprint.
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And it sticks with you for the rest of your life.
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So, you know, I'd rather...
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you know...
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go out– and I hate to be glum,
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but I'd rather go out with a positive,
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knowing that other people benefitted
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from, you know, the messaging that we're trying to put out.
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You know, stop trolling people, stop sending misinformation.
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Stop, you know, writing these incredible stories
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about, you know, conspiracy theories.
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If you wanna write, write a movie,
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for – sake, but don't spread it as fact.
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- It's so dangerous. - Or do poetry.
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As this woman did the other day and that poem went viral.
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I think, you know, when you posted earlier,
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you were talking about the world...
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is about to fall off its axis in this moment.
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What are you all doing to keep your mental health stable?
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What are you doing?
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Hm, I mean, focusing on what we can control in the moment.
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- Yeah. Mm-hmm. - I mean, for me,
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that's kind of just cleaning around the house,
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checking in with my family.
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I think if you start focusing on all the things
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that are out of your control, like you said,
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it's really easy to start–
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you know, it's gonna start affecting your mental health.
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And just checking in with each other.
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- Yeah. - Yeah.
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Checking in with each other.
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For me, creative energy is just a big part of my life,
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so being creative, being able to write,
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doing whatever I do creatively is really important.
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Checking in with people.
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I get a lot of emails all day now
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and I'm always wondering what–
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those people that are sending me an email,
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what they're doing.
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And just checking in with them,
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getting into slightly deeper conversations
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than "Hey, I'm good."
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Just trying to figure out how they're doing,
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what's happening.
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That helps me a little bit.
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You know...
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I think the important thing is that we try and stay focused,
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try and stay ahead of the curve.
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At any one time, we may fall ill
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since we are COVID-positive.
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And you know,
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that definitely keeps us a little bit focused.
519
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I heard that– you mentioned earlier
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and I heard on one of your other posts
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that you got the guitar.
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Are you getting good at it?
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- Yes. - Ask him to play something.
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- No. - I was gonna ask you
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- to play something. - No, that's–
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Would you serenade us a little bit?
527
00:22:15,064 --> 00:22:16,524
It's too soon. It's too soon.
528
00:22:16,608 --> 00:22:17,984
It's too soon? What are you learning?
529
00:22:18,067 --> 00:22:19,736
- What are you practicing? - Thank you.
530
00:22:19,819 --> 00:22:22,155
Just putting this over here.
531
00:22:22,238 --> 00:22:24,073
He's actually– you know what?
532
00:22:24,157 --> 00:22:27,160
He's not bad and I don't mind him playing it.
533
00:22:27,243 --> 00:22:29,162
- I'm self– - Kind of romantic.
534
00:22:29,245 --> 00:22:31,664
I'm self-teaching, which–
535
00:22:31,748 --> 00:22:34,083
Are you serenading Sabrina?
536
00:22:34,167 --> 00:22:36,044
Well, you know,
537
00:22:36,127 --> 00:22:38,713
I serenade with, like, ums and uhs,
538
00:22:38,796 --> 00:22:40,423
so there's not quite as many words yet,
539
00:22:40,506 --> 00:22:41,883
but it's getting there.
540
00:22:41,966 --> 00:22:43,384
It's a lot of "oh-whoa-whoas."
541
00:22:43,468 --> 00:22:44,886
[laughter]
542
00:22:44,969 --> 00:22:46,930
So this is a moment I think we all get to
543
00:22:47,013 --> 00:22:49,432
step up in our own humanity.
544
00:22:49,515 --> 00:22:53,269
What do you almost want people to know right now?
545
00:22:55,647 --> 00:22:57,440
Well–go for it.
546
00:22:57,524 --> 00:22:59,817
I think this is a time to...
547
00:22:59,901 --> 00:23:01,986
as much as we are self-isolating,
548
00:23:02,070 --> 00:23:04,864
it's gonna be really easy to start focusing in on yourself,
549
00:23:04,948 --> 00:23:06,407
but I don't want people to forget
550
00:23:06,491 --> 00:23:08,117
about thinking of others.
551
00:23:08,201 --> 00:23:09,786
I mean, that's one of the reasons social distancing
552
00:23:09,869 --> 00:23:12,705
is so important, not only to protect yourself,
553
00:23:12,789 --> 00:23:15,250
but to protect the other people that you might see.
554
00:23:15,333 --> 00:23:17,210
You know, someone's mother or grandmother
555
00:23:17,293 --> 00:23:20,797
walking down the street that you might infect, so I just–
556
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,882
Like Idris said, this is a time for togetherness
557
00:23:22,966 --> 00:23:25,301
and I really want people to just focus in
558
00:23:25,385 --> 00:23:27,929
on how we can still have that togetherness,
559
00:23:28,012 --> 00:23:30,056
even though we're self-isolating.
560
00:23:30,139 --> 00:23:32,809
Yeah, also, you know, I think that
561
00:23:32,892 --> 00:23:35,728
there is a crisis
562
00:23:35,812 --> 00:23:38,982
amongst our governors, our governance,
563
00:23:39,065 --> 00:23:41,651
that people can't get tested, doesn't–
564
00:23:41,734 --> 00:23:43,486
don't feel protected.
565
00:23:44,821 --> 00:23:46,906
I think that we as a people
566
00:23:46,990 --> 00:23:49,659
that feel the brunt of that,
567
00:23:49,742 --> 00:23:53,746
you know, should be lobbying
568
00:23:53,830 --> 00:23:55,915
to try and get some change done.
569
00:23:57,083 --> 00:23:58,418
There's a lot of sort of–
570
00:23:58,501 --> 00:24:00,795
"How did you get tested? How did that get tested?"
571
00:24:00,879 --> 00:24:03,506
That's not as important
572
00:24:03,590 --> 00:24:06,134
as getting the people that can change that
573
00:24:06,217 --> 00:24:09,554
to listen to our voices at this point.
574
00:24:09,637 --> 00:24:11,097
I think, you know,
575
00:24:11,180 --> 00:24:13,391
we can play the blame game,
576
00:24:13,474 --> 00:24:15,101
but I think it's more important
577
00:24:15,184 --> 00:24:18,688
for us to sort of start pulling together the resources,
578
00:24:18,771 --> 00:24:21,441
the thinking power, and the people power
579
00:24:21,524 --> 00:24:23,610
to get the change necessary
580
00:24:23,693 --> 00:24:26,029
so that everyone can get tested.
581
00:24:26,112 --> 00:24:30,450
Whatever that circular resource mechanism is,
582
00:24:30,533 --> 00:24:34,204
let's pool our energy into that, fixing that.
583
00:24:34,287 --> 00:24:36,873
You know, the people in the UK,
584
00:24:36,956 --> 00:24:40,877
the NHS at the moment is just struggling.
585
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,755
They can't deal. How do we fix that?
586
00:24:43,838 --> 00:24:45,089
That's what's really important.
587
00:24:45,173 --> 00:24:47,800
So you know, and what that requires
588
00:24:47,884 --> 00:24:50,845
is everyone to be sort of cognitive and thinking,
589
00:24:50,929 --> 00:24:55,391
focused, as opposed to panic and scaremongering and hate.
590
00:24:55,475 --> 00:24:59,354
We need to all think about how to change that.
591
00:24:59,437 --> 00:25:01,856
Yeah. What is the bigger picture for all of us?
592
00:25:01,940 --> 00:25:03,608
[Idris] What is the bigger picture for all of us?
593
00:25:03,691 --> 00:25:05,818
We have to think like an ant colony,
594
00:25:05,902 --> 00:25:07,904
as one, at this point.
595
00:25:07,987 --> 00:25:09,572
We have to all carry our leaves
596
00:25:09,656 --> 00:25:10,865
and our twigs in our bags
597
00:25:10,949 --> 00:25:12,700
and figure out how to mend this ASAP.
598
00:25:12,784 --> 00:25:13,618
That's what we need to do.
599
00:25:13,701 --> 00:25:15,912
Isn't it interesting how in...
600
00:25:15,995 --> 00:25:19,082
How a pandemic has the possibility
601
00:25:19,165 --> 00:25:20,583
of bringing us together
602
00:25:20,667 --> 00:25:24,003
in ways that even a week ago
603
00:25:24,087 --> 00:25:27,757
none of us would have been able to predict or expect?
604
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,717
I mean, like, you being able to call bull–
605
00:25:29,801 --> 00:25:31,594
on everything that's happened before–
606
00:25:31,678 --> 00:25:34,013
your word, not mine.
607
00:25:34,097 --> 00:25:35,557
[laughter]
608
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,725
[Oprah] Being able to call it and then in a week
609
00:25:37,809 --> 00:25:41,855
we see how things have drastically changed.
610
00:25:41,938 --> 00:25:43,982
Yeah. It is– it is–
611
00:25:44,065 --> 00:25:46,067
it is incredible. I mean, it's...
612
00:25:46,150 --> 00:25:49,946
It's–one of the upsides of this whole drama
613
00:25:50,029 --> 00:25:52,365
is that we are forced
614
00:25:52,448 --> 00:25:56,828
to think together as a race.
615
00:25:56,911 --> 00:25:59,038
You know, we really are. You know...
616
00:25:59,122 --> 00:26:00,373
[Oprah] As a human race.
617
00:26:00,456 --> 00:26:01,833
As a human race, yeah.
618
00:26:01,916 --> 00:26:05,545
But you know, also, our world has been taking a kicking.
619
00:26:05,628 --> 00:26:08,840
You know, we've damaged our world
620
00:26:08,923 --> 00:26:12,302
and, you know, it's no surprise
621
00:26:12,385 --> 00:26:16,389
that our world is reacting to the human race.
622
00:26:16,472 --> 00:26:20,476
It's no surprise that a virus has been created
623
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,145
that is gonna slow us down
624
00:26:22,228 --> 00:26:24,480
and ultimately make us think differently
625
00:26:24,564 --> 00:26:26,941
about our world and ourselves.
626
00:26:27,025 --> 00:26:28,776
That's like a real– for me,
627
00:26:28,860 --> 00:26:30,904
that's a standout thing that's very obvious,
628
00:26:30,987 --> 00:26:34,324
that this is almost like the world's cry-out to, like,
629
00:26:34,407 --> 00:26:36,784
"Hey, hey, hey, you're kicking me.
630
00:26:36,868 --> 00:26:38,661
You know, what you're doing is not good."
631
00:26:38,745 --> 00:26:40,205
So I'll get rid of you.
632
00:26:40,288 --> 00:26:43,583
As any–any organism would do
633
00:26:43,666 --> 00:26:45,543
is try and get rid of an infection
634
00:26:45,627 --> 00:26:48,922
and maybe this is it for the world, so.
635
00:26:49,005 --> 00:26:49,964
Yeah, I think it's important
636
00:26:50,048 --> 00:26:52,217
as we are all trying to deal
637
00:26:52,300 --> 00:26:54,177
with the pragmatic.
638
00:26:54,260 --> 00:26:57,430
That's one of the reasons I wanted to do this with Apple,
639
00:26:57,513 --> 00:26:59,849
is to talk to people like yourselves
640
00:26:59,933 --> 00:27:03,228
who can bring a broader insight,
641
00:27:03,311 --> 00:27:07,232
because I think we all lose as human beings
642
00:27:07,315 --> 00:27:11,653
if we just think of this as a physical virus.
643
00:27:11,736 --> 00:27:14,614
I think it's exactly what you just said,
644
00:27:14,697 --> 00:27:16,115
that it's here to teach us,
645
00:27:16,199 --> 00:27:20,036
show us something about ourselves, as individuals,
646
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,540
and also as a world of people.
647
00:27:23,623 --> 00:27:25,750
And this is a moment for our humanity
648
00:27:25,833 --> 00:27:27,835
to either rise or not.
649
00:27:27,919 --> 00:27:29,629
- Yeah, I agree. - Yeah.
650
00:27:29,712 --> 00:27:32,173
It really does– I'm really hoping that
651
00:27:32,257 --> 00:27:36,469
the governance of the human race pay attention,
652
00:27:36,553 --> 00:27:39,180
you know, to what's happening here.
653
00:27:39,264 --> 00:27:40,974
Because I think it's for the governance
654
00:27:41,057 --> 00:27:43,518
to think about what happened during COVID,
655
00:27:43,601 --> 00:27:46,354
how we all responded to it,
656
00:27:46,437 --> 00:27:49,107
and what can we do in the future, should it happen again.
657
00:27:49,190 --> 00:27:51,901
I think that's where, you know, the real components
658
00:27:51,985 --> 00:27:54,529
of change will really matter,
659
00:27:54,612 --> 00:27:58,658
is, you know, my children, my children's children
660
00:27:58,741 --> 00:28:00,577
will look back at this time and say,
661
00:28:00,660 --> 00:28:02,453
"Hey, when that happened,
662
00:28:02,537 --> 00:28:04,706
things changed on a higher level
663
00:28:04,789 --> 00:28:07,292
that made all of us work better now."
664
00:28:07,375 --> 00:28:09,419
And that's hopefully something that might–
665
00:28:09,502 --> 00:28:11,129
good that comes out of this, you know?
666
00:28:11,212 --> 00:28:12,797
[Oprah] Well, listen.
667
00:28:12,881 --> 00:28:15,508
Thank you so much for talking to me
668
00:28:15,592 --> 00:28:20,972
from your secluded space, quarantined space.
669
00:28:21,055 --> 00:28:22,390
- [Idris] Thank you. - I believe
670
00:28:22,473 --> 00:28:23,516
that you're gonna get better.
671
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,060
The whole world's rooting for you all.
672
00:28:26,144 --> 00:28:27,812
[Idris] Well, we're rooting for the whole world.
673
00:28:27,896 --> 00:28:29,689
I mean, we just hope that
674
00:28:29,772 --> 00:28:31,191
everyone that's got this is dealing with it,
675
00:28:31,274 --> 00:28:34,360
is just staying optimistic.
676
00:28:34,444 --> 00:28:37,488
We'll look past, we'll find a cure for it.
677
00:28:37,572 --> 00:28:39,115
And we'll look past at this
678
00:28:39,199 --> 00:28:41,910
and we really hope that everyone just stays focused,
679
00:28:41,993 --> 00:28:43,620
stays calm,
680
00:28:43,703 --> 00:28:45,288
and think about others as well.
681
00:28:45,371 --> 00:28:47,165
You know, we really hope that–
682
00:28:47,248 --> 00:28:48,208
[Oprah] Sabrina, you don't regret–
683
00:28:48,291 --> 00:28:51,002
or do you regret going to join him
684
00:28:51,085 --> 00:28:52,378
now that you now have it?
685
00:28:52,462 --> 00:28:53,922
[Sabrina] No. Not at all.
686
00:28:54,005 --> 00:28:55,340
[chuckles] No.
687
00:28:55,423 --> 00:28:56,966
I mean, you know, I am a bit worried
688
00:28:57,050 --> 00:28:58,134
about people looking at us
689
00:28:58,218 --> 00:28:59,302
and thinking because we're asymptomatic,
690
00:28:59,385 --> 00:29:00,595
"Oh, they shouldn't–"
691
00:29:00,678 --> 00:29:03,181
It's not as big a deal as people are making it to be.
692
00:29:03,264 --> 00:29:05,058
I really don't want that to come out of this.
693
00:29:05,141 --> 00:29:06,768
I think, if anything, it shows
694
00:29:06,851 --> 00:29:09,395
more that we should be careful and self-isolate
695
00:29:09,479 --> 00:29:10,813
and stay home because you don't know
696
00:29:10,897 --> 00:29:12,148
who you're going to spread it to, but no,
697
00:29:12,232 --> 00:29:14,150
I'm so happy to be next to this guy.
698
00:29:14,234 --> 00:29:16,319
He's not–he's not too bad, you know?
699
00:29:16,402 --> 00:29:17,654
I don't agree.
700
00:29:17,737 --> 00:29:21,366
I feel very sort of regretful that she came.
701
00:29:21,449 --> 00:29:23,743
I wanted her to stay where she was.
702
00:29:23,826 --> 00:29:25,203
She didn't want to do that.
703
00:29:25,286 --> 00:29:26,746
I mean, I was on my way. I was on the flight, so.
704
00:29:26,829 --> 00:29:28,706
- You were, you were. - [Oprah] Yeah.
705
00:29:28,790 --> 00:29:31,042
But I do feel a sense of responsibility,
706
00:29:31,125 --> 00:29:34,629
as I do for everyone that I've met, from my exposure to here.
707
00:29:36,589 --> 00:29:38,132
I was speaking to some of my colleagues
708
00:29:38,216 --> 00:29:39,592
and I was expressing that,
709
00:29:39,676 --> 00:29:41,302
"Listen, man, I feel like I've partly
710
00:29:41,386 --> 00:29:43,012
put you in this predicament,"
711
00:29:43,096 --> 00:29:45,598
and as a testament of who these people are
712
00:29:45,682 --> 00:29:47,100
and how good they were, they were like,
713
00:29:47,183 --> 00:29:51,062
"No, dude. We're in it together.
714
00:29:51,145 --> 00:29:54,858
You know, there's no way you could have prevented that."
715
00:29:54,941 --> 00:29:56,150
And it made me–
716
00:29:56,234 --> 00:29:57,569
It really underlined what I was talking about,
717
00:29:57,652 --> 00:29:59,779
about humanity sort of caring for each other.
718
00:29:59,863 --> 00:30:01,406
Just made me feel so good
719
00:30:01,489 --> 00:30:04,200
that these people didn't hold me accountable.
720
00:30:04,284 --> 00:30:06,828
But at the same time, we're just very..
721
00:30:06,911 --> 00:30:09,998
- You know, it's just... - [Oprah] Well...
722
00:30:10,081 --> 00:30:12,709
In the same vein, did you hold accountable
723
00:30:12,792 --> 00:30:16,045
the person or persons from whom you think you got it?
724
00:30:16,129 --> 00:30:18,256
- [Idris] God, no. No. - No.
725
00:30:18,339 --> 00:30:20,967
Yeah, we're all in this together.
726
00:30:21,050 --> 00:30:22,343
We're all in this together, yeah.
727
00:30:22,427 --> 00:30:23,595
It's great talking to you. Thank you.
728
00:30:23,678 --> 00:30:24,929
[Oprah] Great talking to you both.
729
00:30:25,013 --> 00:30:26,723
Thank you so much. Be well.
730
00:30:26,806 --> 00:30:28,433
Yes, we miss you! Stay safe.
731
00:30:28,516 --> 00:30:30,435
All right, stay safe, guys. Thank you.
732
00:30:30,518 --> 00:30:31,603
- [Sabrina] All right. Bye. - [Idris] See you later. Bye.
733
00:30:31,686 --> 00:30:33,021
Bye.
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