All language subtitles for Bull s04e19_English

MAN [over earbuds]: ...on the
court tell a different story.

You're listening
to Strictly Legal Talk,

a professional legal podcast.

[knocking]

MAN:
Excuse me, Judge Duggan?

Tony. Come in.

Listen, I know

you're new, but everyone
around here calls me Madison.

Yes, ma'am.

I didn't mean to disturb you,
but the jury's in the box. [gavel bangs]

Please introduce yourself
to Her Honor

and the membersof the jury.

My name is Debra Jansen,

and I'm a registered nurse.

Did you and the defendant,
Dr. Stanley Ferris,

perform an assisted suicide?

Yes. We did.

And could you please
describe the circumstances?

The patient was

a 72-year-old male.

He was sufferingfrom diabetes and heart disease.

Didn't have long to live,
but obviously,

in a tremendous amount of pain
and discomfort.

[door opens]We went

to his home.I administered

four milligrams
of ondansetron.

It's a tablet.

We give itto prevent nausea,

vomiting.

Once he'd gotten that down,

Dr. Ferris mixed ten grams

of secobarbital
with apple juice.

About 30 minutes later,

the patient stopped breathing.

Thank you. I have nothing
further, Your Honor.

Any questions from the defense?

MALLOY:
Let me ask you a
question, Ms. Jansen.

The deceased was
suffering, wasn't he?

Very much so. Yes.

And he askedto be
euthanized, didn't he?

Yes. Of course.

Now the reason
you're here today,

the reason we're all
here today is that

the A.D.A. cut you
a deal in exchange for

your testimony,isn't that right?

She promised not to prosecute me

for being a part of it
if I testified. Yes.

Thank you.

I have nothing further.

DUGGAN:
Okay.

Let's take a brief recess.

Ms. Boyd, I'd like to see youand the witness in my chambers.

I noticed there are federal
agents in the gallery.

Ms. Boyd,

when you promised
not to prosecute Ms. Jansen,

did you reach out
to your federal counterparts

and make sure the promise
would bind the United States

Attorney's Office,
as well?

No, Your Honor.

So you made a deal
with this witness,

but you didn'tget the Feds

to sign off on it?

Those FBI agents grab you,

you are lookingat ten years.

Ten years?

So, wait. They're-they're here
to arrest me?

I never would have agreed
to testify if I had known

that could happen.

You made a critical error.

You should have dialed
in the Feds

before you promised her
immunity.

Okay. Wait a second.Let's figure this out.

Maybe if you couldlet her stay in here,

she could call her lawyer?

All of us together--we can work this out.

You're not going to
work anything out.

They are here to do a job,
and they're gonna do it.

The second she walks
back into that courtroom,

they are gonna take
her into custody,

whether she's called
a lawyer or not.

Oh, my God.

I have kids. I...

Why don't you return
to the courtroom?

Give us a moment.

[door opens, closes]

COURT OFFICER:All rise!

Oh, no, no, stop.
Sorry for

the delay, everyone.

Agents, can you please
take your seats?

I'd like to resume trial.

Of course.
We'll leave

in just a second,
but we need to speak

to the witness
who just testified.

The nurse.I think
you may have just missed her.

Missed her?

I believe she had another matterto attend to.

Your Honor, let me be clear.

We came here to arrest her.

I don't know what to tell you.

You understand
what this looks like?

You called Ms. Jansen
into your chambers immediately

after she confesses
to illegal drug distribution.

Now she's gone?

Again...
I don't know what to tell you.

If you feel
you have lawful authority

to arrest someone,

then you should do so.You just need

to do it in a way that doesn't
intimidate witnesses,

or cause a disruption
in my courtroom.

Understood?

Oh, I completely understand,
Your Honor.

But do you understand

that in intentionally allowing
Ms. Jansen to evade arrest,

you just committed
a federal crime?

[gallery murmuring]

Need you to step down
from the bench

and put your hands
behind your back.

And I need you
to leave my courtroom.

I have a trial to attend to.
Court officer?

Seriously?

I'm asking you one last time.
Step off the bench.

Judge Duggan,you're being charged

with obstruction of justice andaiding and abetting an escape.

You have the rightto remain silent...Save your breath.

I know the song. I can
recite the lyrics by heart.

Anything you say canand will be used against you

in a court of law.

You have the rightto an attorney.

If you cannot afford

an attorney, one will beprovided for you.

MARISSA:
Wow.

A judge with half a
million Twitter followers.

CHUNK:
Well, I'm guessing

she's a bleeding heart?

The kind that sends defendants
home with a slap on the wrist?

Well, that is not exactly the
way that I would describe her.

A defendant was convictedof a drunk driving hit-and-run.

She ordered him to spend a week
living at the morgue.

Eating, sleeping.

All of it, surrounded

by lifeless, mangled victims
of car accidents.

A week at the morgue?

I think I'd rather go to prison.

She sentenced another defendant,a slumlord,

to live in one
of his rat-infested properties

for six months.

Oh. So she's one of those.

And apparently, it is effective.

Judge Duggan's defendantshave the lowest recidivism rates

in the city-- an average of 17%.

Sounds like there's a method
to her madness.

[phone chimes, vibrates]Oh.

That's her.
She's in the lobby.

DUGGAN:
I appreciate

you seeing me
on such short notice.

I know you're both very busy.

Happy to be of help.

DUGGAN:First, I know what peopleare saying about me.

They think I have
some sort of agenda,

both political and personal.Well,

you were elected to the bench.
People assume

you have your sights set
on bigger and better things.

BENNY:
The prosecutor is
alleging you used

your platform as a judge
to raise your profile,

make a political statement.

The prosecutor's wrong.

This isn't about self-promotionor assisted suicide.

In fact, I don't even havean opinion on assisted suicide.

Then, why'd you do it?

You, of all people, know
the jeopardy you're facing.

Could cost you 25 years
in prison,

your seat on the bench,
your license to practice.

I know it's gonna sound likesomething from a bumper sticker,

but... I did it to protect
the sanctity of the courtroom,

the sovereignty of judges,

the-the business of
providing justice.

BENNY:
Forgive me, but

I'm not sure I follow.

I'm responsible for what happensin my courtroom.

I can't have people who would
otherwise testify worry

that if they do, some other
arm of law is gonna be

waiting for them in the lobby
because they owe back taxes,

or they have
an outstanding parking ticket,

or who knows what.

BENNY:
So you let her

exit through the judge's lobby
to the private elevator,

and slip out the back door
of the courthouse?

I gave her time
to consult with an attorney,

so she could arrange to turn
herself in and avoid arrest.

And did she?

I don't know.

I'm worried she fled.

But that's not the point.

And what is?

Court has to be a safe space,

a sacred space.

Otherwise,
no one will participate.

Criminals will walk free,

the crime rate will rise.

So will you help me?

Will you represent me?

Please?

Well, when you put it like that.

♪

[bangs gavel]Good morning. I understand

the defense has filed a motion

to dismiss.

That is correct,Your Honor.

Hmm. I'll hear you.

Although, I confess,

my clerk has already informed meof your position.

Apparently,

your client was twittering
about it all morning.

[gallery murmuring]

Apparently, she's...

quite the media sensation.

It's tweeting,not twittering.

Argue your motion, Mr. Colón.

Of course, Your Honor.
[sighs]

It is the defendant's contentionthat pursuant to Rule 12

of the Federal Rules
of Criminal Procedure

that the indictment
must be dismissed.

My client is being
criminally prosecuted

for doing exactly
what she was sworn to do--

exercise judicial discretion,

protect the integrity
of her courtroom, and

ensure that justice is served.

OLSEN:Does that mean

you stipulate that your clientallowed someone to evade arrest?

He's admitting
his client did it.I am admitting

nothing of the kind.

She allowed a witness
to seek counsel.

Mr. Olsen, does the
United States have a response?

It's our position
that Ms. Duggan...

Excuse me. It's JudgeDuggan.

The woman is still a judge.

I don't carewhat they call me.

That's not the point.

We need to set
a certain tone.

Ms. Duggan is under suspension.

Judge Duggan is
on administrative leave

until the case is resolved.

And she should
be given

the respect that she deserves.[gavel bangs]

Gentlemen...

since neither of you hasappeared in my courtroom before,

let me set a few ground rules
for you.

I run a tight ship.

No one speaks out
of turn, and if

I want you to elaborate on
anything, I will let you know.

Got it?

Of course, Your Honor.Yes, Your Honor.

Continue please, Mr. Olsen.

The defendant's decision toignore a federal arrest warrant

appears to have been
a publicity stunt

orchestrated
by a media-savvy jurist,

hoping to eventuallyseek higher elected office.

We simply cannot allow
obstructing the work

of federal law enforcement
to be taken lightly.

The defendant must be held
accountable for her actions.

I must say,
I agree with the prosecution.

I'm not going

to endorse
a rogue judge's behavior.

The defendant's motion
to dismiss is denied.

Case will be decided by a jury.

Clearly, this is gonna
be an uphill battle.

One more thing.

Yes, Your Honor?

I'm issuing a gag order.

Respectfully, I don't believe
that's necessary, Your Honor.

Objection noted and overruled.

There will be no twittering
or Facebooking

or any other form
of commentary

during the pendency
of this case.

Have I made myself clear?

Yes, Your Honor.

[sighs heavily]
Sorry, Bull.

Try as I might, I just
could not make it go away.

[sighs]Don't beat yourself up too much.

I realize nowthere was no way on earth

that judge was gonna letour judge off without a trial.

Hmm.

Have you read about our client?

She sure does get some press.

She had this one case once,
a residential burglary.

Victim was juggling
two jobs at once.

Husband was dying,
and she's caring for him.

It's a huge burden
for her to get to the court

during normal hours.

So Judge Duggan decided she
was gonna hold court at night.

Every component of the system
complained.

Courthouse didn't want
to keep the lights on.

The jail didn't want
to transport the prisoner

after hours.

But our client dug in
and made it happen.

That's nice.

I thinkit's more than nice.

I think it'sindicative of someone

who's committed to the ideathat justice should exist

for everyone;it shouldn't be compromised

because it might beinconvenient for the system.

I think she

genuinely believes
in these things.

I believe she honestly thought
that the nurse's reward

for being willing to testify
shouldn't be getting arrested

by another agency.

So, how do you
want to play this?

Who would be on
your ideal jury?

Well, here'san abstract idea.

Sometimes you haveto skirt the law

in order to maintainits integrity.

You've got that right.Our client...

[sighs]:
Judge Duggan...

she's guided
by the spirit of the law

rather than the letter of it.

So we want people
who can see the big picture.

Exactly. We need to deselect
narrow-minded thinkers

and embrace people who are
at least willing to explore

the possibility that,
while at first glance

something may appear
precise and definite,

it may be open
to interpretation,

have a deeper meaning.

Good morning.

So, let me ask you a question.

If I say "Statue of Liberty,"

what does that
make you think of?

I don't know.

Liberty?

Freedom?

[quietly]:
I don't know.

That answer
could cut either way.

Could be viewed
as either literal or abstract.

Or, really, just obvious.

Kelly Wallace. 61 years old.
Teaches physics

at Columbia University.

Well, physicists

are analytical
but also very creative.

Physics itself is practical

but can also be very...
theoretical.

[mumbles]

Okay.

Liberty, freedom.

Anything else?

Hope.

Ah, hope.

Now, there's the abstract
thinker we're looking for.

Your Honor,

this juror is acceptable
to the defense.

So, miss, let me
ask you a question.

Now, this case makes reference
to assisted suicide,

and I'm reading
on your questionnaire here

that you are a nun.

Do you think that you can
be fair and impartial?

Well...

suicide is a mortal sin.

It's an act
against the will of God.

I'm not sure
what else I can tell you.

Thank you for your candor.

Your Honor, we move

to exclude this
juror for cause.

Request is denied.

Excuse me?Request is denied.

There is no cause.

That's absurd.

This witness
just answered

she considers suicide--
any kind of suicide--

a mortal sin.

I'd advise you to sit down.

Counsel, want to take control
of your client?

What more cause do you need?

Take your seat.
Let Benny do his job.

But this case isn't
about suicide, it's about you.

Letting someone out the back
door to avoid being arrested.

That someone who just assisted
in an act of suicide.

How can you not see
the prejudicial effect

that that might haveon this juror?

Did you not hear me?Of course I did.

The questions is,
did you hear me?

Please let us handle this.

This is my final warning.

Take your seat.

Your lawyer

may exercise oneof his six preemptory challenges

on this jury if he so chooses.

That's not the point.
We shouldn't have to use

one of our six
preemptory challenges

when this juroris clearly biased.

This is the last time
I'm gonna say it.

Take your seat
and shut your mouth.

[gallery murmuring]

Fine.

[grunts quietly]
I will take my seat

and I will shut my mouth,
but I promise you,

tomorrow morning
I am filing charges

with the
Judicial Board of Review,

and citing your...
your infantile behavior

and yourwillful disregard

for my rights!

You were warned.

I'm finding you
in contempt of court.

[panting]:Marshal, take her into custody.

[handcuffs clicking]

♪

Thank you for bailing me out.

I know I should have
exercised better judgment

with regards
to my behavior,

but I hope you can
both appreciate

that I am right
on the issues,

on the principles
involved.

I want desperately to believe

that you're not really
that naive.

Huh, wow, Dr. Bull.

Tell me what you really think.

Do you realize what you've done?

The self-inflicted damage
that you've caused

by pulling that stunt?

You want to go to prison?

No. Of course not.

You have to understand
it didn't help your cause

for the jury to see you
ushered out of the courtroom

in handcuffs like that.

That alone is
a huge setback for us.

I don't disagree.
But they also saw

a person stand up for herself
and really...

Oh, come on. Look,

I respect that you're a person
of principle.

That's why I took you on
as a client.

But...
[sighs]

You completely destroyed
our narrative in there.

We are trying
to convince the jury

that you let a woman
escape federal custody

because you believe
in the sanctity

of the courtroom.

Well, insultinga federal judge

doesn't exactly demonstrate

a belief in the sanctity
of the courtroom.

You get that, right?

This is me.

[exhales]

Okay.

Tomorrow, let's trysomething different.

You play the part
of the defendant,

we'll play the part
of your legal team,

and we'll let the judge
be the judge.

What do you say?

I'll certainly try my best.

[car door opens]That would be appreciated.

[door closes]

OLSEN:
Agent Mercier,

could you describe what
happened when you went

into the defendant's
courtroom to effect

a lawful arrest?MERCIER:
Well, the defendant

came out of her chambers
and essentially admitted

that she purposely aided
in the nurse's escape.

Wow.

And what were the
repercussions of that?Well,

the most significant
was we lost our suspect.

The nurse, Ms. Jansen.

And do we have any idea
where she is right now?

We're not certain, but we
believe she fled to Canada.

And I assume the Bureau has
made attempts to locate her?

Several.

I have nothing further.

How red is it?

It is as red as red can be.

BENNY:Agent Mercier,

thank you
for testifying here today.

Now...

would it be fair to say
that you,

a federal agent,

entered my client's courtroom,

a New York State courtroom,

for the sole purpose
of arresting a witness?

Yes. We've made no secret
about that fact.

That's precisely what
we were there to do.

And you don't thinkthere's anything amiss in that?

Course not. As you well know,

assisting in an act of suicide
is a federal crime.

Once we heard that the nurse
was going to testify,

once we realized that she was
probably going to confess

on the stand,
we felt we had no choice

but to be there
and take her into custody.Really?

Agent Mercier, are you familiar

with the Tenth Amendment
to the Constitution?

"The powers

"not delegated
to the United States

"by the Constitution,

"nor prohibited by it
to the States,

"are reserved
to the States respectively,

or to the people."

You know what that means?

Well, it means
that federal law enforcement

are not allowed
to recklessly interfere

with the functions
of state court.Objection.

Agent Mercier isn't on trial.

And it isn't Mr. Colón's job

to lecture us
on the Constitution.

I was getting to the question,
Your Honor.

Then ask it, please.BENNY:Yes, sir.

Now, you are a federal law
enforcement agent, sir.

Sworn to uphold
the Constitution.

Now, wouldn't you agree
that state court judges

have a solemn duty
to protect witnesses

and victims in their courtrooms?

A duty guaranteed
by the Tenth Amendment?

Well, I'm not
a constitutional scholar, sir,

but yes,
that sounds about right.

And would it surprise you
to know that the trial

that you interrupted
was declared a mistrial

and cost the taxpayers
a lot of money?

No, I didn't know that.

Sounds to me like you're the onewho violated the law

and obstructed justice.

Maybe you're the one who shouldbe sitting at the defense table,

and Judge Duggan should be
the key witness against you.

Not the other way around.

No further questions,
Your Honor.

[gallery murmuring]

Thank you, Mr. Colón.

Nice job, sir.

[sighs]All part of the service.

HOLLINGSWORTH:
Well, this seems good a place

as any to stop for lunch, so...

court will resume in an hour.

All right.

It's, uh, an updatedwitness list.

Debra Jansen?
The nurse?

They found her?

I'm sensing this is not goodfor the home team.

OLSEN:
Nurse Jansen,

please tell us how you came
to be a fugitive from justice.

Well, I was
in Judge Duggan's courtroom

testifying,

and I guessthese two FBI agents

came in.

I didn't really notice
at the time.

But when I was done testifying,

the judge had me come back
to her office.

That's when she told me
she was pretty sure

they were there to arrest me.

Anyway, I asked the judge.
[exhales]

I told her
I wanted to call a lawyer,

get some help.

And did you do that?

The judge wouldn't let me.

She said there was no time
for phone calls.

So it was the defendant's idea

for you to flee?

Yes.

She told me I should just run,

as far as I could,

as fast as I could.

[gallery murmuring]

That is not what happened.

Lower your voice.

OLSEN:So,

that's what you did?

She was the judge.

I did what I was told.

Grabbed my kids,

jumped in my car
and drove to Quebec.

Your witness.

So, evading the law--

that's something you
decided to do on your own.

She told me to run,

and I did.

BENNY:"Run"?

You sure that's
the word she used?

I'm sure.Hmm.

You sure she didn't say,

"Go to someplace safe
and call a lawyer

"and come up with a plan,

"so that when federal agents do
eventually come and arrest you,

you've got your ducks in a row"?

She told me to run.

All right.

Let's review.

So, you escaped prosecution
in the assisted suicide case

by flipping on the doctor.

Do I have that right?

I was subpoenaed
to testify against him.

So I did.

And now you're trying
to curry favor with the Feds

by turning on the one person
who was trying to help you.

I'm just trying
to tell the truth.

Oh, no. You are trying
to save yourself from prison.

Objection.

Sustained. Ask a question.

You cut a deal with the Feds,
didn't you?

I entered into a plea agreementwith the prosecutor.

Right,

right.

And part of that agreement

required for you to testify

against the one person
who was looking out

for you,
the one person

who advised youto get a lawyer first

and then surrenderto authorities,

the one personwhose only intent in all this

was to help you.

I don't know

what her intent was.

But she sure seemed happy

to be sticking it
to the FBI agents.

Oh, come on.

You don't know that.

Sure, I do.

When the A.D.A. left

and I was alone
with Judge Duggan,

she called the Feds "feebs."

She said,"Those feebs,

"they think they're God,
but they're not.

In this courtroom, I'm God."

[gallery murmuring]

She's lying.

I would never saysuch a thing.

I believe you.

Unfortunately, my
vote doesn't count.

Judge Duggan, since
the start of this trial,

people have been sitting in
the chair you're sitting in

right now and they've painteda pretty damning picture of you.

So here's my question.

Is any of what
Nurse Jansen said true?

Did you intentionally
obstruct justice?

Were you flexing your
power and your muscle

and sending a message?

Or is Ms. Jansen simply lying?

Well, whether or not someone islying is for the jury to decide.

But I remember itquite differently.

I admit I let Ms. Jansenleave out the back door.

But I promise youit wasn't out of spite

or because I havesome sort of god complex.

Well, then help us
understand why you did it.

I did it to protectthe integrity of the process.

You have to understand--this is it for me.

The law is my life.

I eat, sleep and breathe it.

I'm not married.

I don't have any children.

I don't even have any hobbies.

The courtroom is my home.

The people who pass through hereare my guests.

And the people who work there
are my family.

From the timeI was a child,

all I ever wanted
to be was a judge.

Other kids had

astronauts or sports starsas their heroes.

I had a big posterof Justice Thurgood Marshall

above my bed.Mm.

DUGGAN:
I believe in the
justice system.

I revere it.

But I also knowhow fragile it is.

You tell people they havesomething to fear by testifying,

they will stop testifying.

And if that happens,
in my opinion,

that is the end
of a civilized society.

[gallery murmuring]

Marissa, please tell me
this is making

a difference.[beeping]

Well, we just got
our first green.

BENNY:So,

just to be clear,

why exactly did you allow
Nurse Jansen

to leave via the back door
in the courthouse

when you knew federal agents
were waiting in your courtroom

to arrest her?

So she could get an attorney.

So she could have someoneon her side

when she surrenderedto the authorities.

She came into my courtroomthinking she was safe.

She made a deal with the A.D.A.that she would testify

in return for her promisethat she wouldn't be prosecuted.

Unfortunately,the district attorney failed

to run the deal by the Feds,

so they feltthey were under no obligation

to abide by it.

BENNY:
And you felt
that was unfair?

DUGGAN:
I felt the
state prosecutor

put her and mein a terrible position.

When she found out the Fedswere there to arrest her,

she was crying.

She was worriedabout her children.

So you never instructed
her to flee the country?

That would make mean accessory to a federal crime.

I took an oathto uphold the law,

not violate it.

BENNY:
Thank you.

That's all I have, Your Honor.

So, let me be certain
that I understand.

You just testified that you're
totally committed to the law,

that your sole interest,

your onlyinterest,

is the pursuit of justice.

Is that correct?

Yes.So, in a sense,

the work that you do--

tweeting out your messages
about the court system,

advising a witness in your
courtroom to seek counsel

before she can be arrested--

that's all... altruistic?

I mean, there's nothingin it for you.

Y-You're not seeking
notoriety or fame,

are you?No.

If fame or notorietyis a byproduct

of getting people excitedabout the judicial system,

then so be it.

But, no, it is not my goal.

You're just a
humble, honest...

down-to-earth
state court judge.

I like to think so. Yes.

Well, thank you
for your honesty.

Nothing further.

[gallery murmuring]

What in the world
was that about?

Well, whatever it was,
it didn't work.

It just keeps getting greener
and greener

in here.

Anything else from either side?

Um, not at this time,
Your Honor.

The defense rests.

OLSEN:
Your Honor,
if the defense

is done with their presentation,

the government would like
to call a rebuttal witness.

Of course you would.

OLSEN:
Please tell us your name
and occupation.

My name is Jake Monroe.

I'm in the
entertainment business.

Uh, artist representative.

Talent agent.

So you represent TV stars?
Actors and actresses?

Well, the vast majority
of my business is

in what's called nonfiction
television.

Uh, reality television.I see.

And are you familiar
with the defendant?

MONROE: Uh, I am.She and I actually had

a number of discussions
about the possibility

of her getting into television.

[gallery murmuring]

Is this true?
You have an agent?

How did we not know this?

No. I've never had an agent.

He invited me to lunch.Twice. That's it.

OLSEN:I'm confused. Why would

a state judge need
a talent agent?

She was elected to office.
She has a job.

Well, courtroom shows are
a very lucrative, uh, staple

of daytime television.

I read about Judge Duggan
in the papers,

uh, started to followher Twitter account.

And I've genuinely
come to believe

that she could be
the next Judge Judy.

Excuse me, Judge who?

Judge Judy.
Very successful.

But she's starting to age
out of the job.

It's hard not to imagine that
someone like Judge Duggan,

or someone like her,
is a potential successor.

So you think she could be
a television judge?

I do.
[chuckles]

I mean, look at her.
She's beautiful,

charismatic.

She's positioned herself well.
She already has a following.

You're talking about
all the-the tweeting,

posting, social media.

Objection, Your Honor.

Counsel is leading the witness.

Sustained.OLSEN: That's fine.

I have nothing further,
Your Honor.

[gallery murmuring]

Did Taylor see anything
about this on social media?

Taylor looked through everypost, tweet, blog and hashtag...

With a fine-tooth comb,
and there's nothing

about an agent,
nothing about television.

Did you actually sign
any kind of agreement

with this guy?No.

Of course not.

He told me he wanted
to make me a star.

I laughed and picked his brain
about social media.

Are you ready to
cross-examine, Counselor?

Yes, I am, Your Honor.

Mr. Monroe,

yes or no question:

did my client sign
a contract with you?

Uh, on paper, no.

But we had an understanding,

which is a fairly typical way
of doing things

in the entertainment business.

And when the two of you
first met,

who initiated the meeting?

Did she call you,

or did you call her?

Uh, I initiated.
I called her.

So this was all about
an idea you had.

Point of fact, my client
never authorized you

to seek any television
opportunities on her behalf.

Isn't that true?

No, I don't believe it is.

Look, I do this for a living.

Yes, she was playing
hard to get.

She never actually said,
"Go do this for me."

But we had lunch twice.

And you don't come back
a second time

unless you heard something
you liked the first time.

[gallery murmuring]

We have lost all
but one of our greens.

[quietly]:
Come on, Benny.

You admit...

my client has no agreement
in place with you?

Verbal or written.
Yes or no?

No, we have no agreement.And the fact is,

while you may be looking for atelevision opportunity for her,

none of it is being done
at her behest-- true?

True.

Maybe she was saying
what she meant.

Maybe she wasn't interested
in you... or TV.

Objection.
Counsel is testifying.

Ask a question.BENNY: Okay. All right.

Here's a question.

What's your motive here?

This all about sour grapes?

Because if you believe
in Judge Duggan,

if you believe, like I do,
that her passion for the law,

her sense of integrity,
her ability to communicate

what makes our system
of justice so special

is in fact what
makes her special,

then what are you hoping
to accomplish

by coming in here and casting
aspersions against her?

You know, if this jury
finds her guilty,

not only will shebe done as a judge,

but you won't be able
to sell her to television.

After all,

who wants a judge
that's been found guilty

of obstructing justice?

Everybody.

I mean, this woman ison the cusp

of being a folk hero.

She helped a regular citizenescape the clutches of the FBI.

[chuckles]

This is America.

We look up to peoplewith a touch of badass in them.

And, if I'm being
completely honest,

she's an easier sell
if she loses this thing

than if she wins.

That's just the truth.

[gallery murmuring]

Tell me they
know better.

Tell me they can see
through his cynicism.

They know better. They can see
through his cynicism.

HOLLINGSWORTH:
Mr. Colón,

do you have anything else
for this witness?

Nothing I can say in court,
Your Honor.

[gavel bangs]

Will the defendant please rise?

Madam Foreperson,
have you reached a verdict?

We have, Your Honor.

We, the jury,
find the defendant guilty

on all counts.OLSEN: Your Honor,

the United States
moves for sentencing.

Put sentencing over
to next week.

Why? We're just
delaying the inevitable.Not necessarily.

She's right.
It's over, Bull.

I asked you to do something.

Is the defense ready
for sentencing?

No, Your Honor.

We'd like a few daysso I can prepare my arguments,

and my client can gether affairs in order.

You can respect the process,

and still not agreewith the outcome.

And I don't.

So here are my two cents.

I think you're exactly
the kind of judge

we need on the bench.

I mean it.

You're smart and fair.

You treat everyone with respect.

And you seem determined
to breathe life

into an otherwise
stodgy institution.

Not to mention you make people
actually want to be here.

You have any idea
what a feat that is?

So I'm not giving up.

There's got to besome common ground.

You're both judges.

And you're both stubborn.

You're both committedto your work.

It doesn't matter.
He has it in for me.

Let's not forget
he locked me up for contempt.

Because you violated
his rules.

That's right.
You spoke out of turn,

and Judge Hollingsworth
did something about it.

He exercised his
judicial discretion.

And when you stop
and think about it,

he believes injudicial sovereignty,

which is kind ofanother way of saying

he believes in the sanctity
of the courtroom.

Does that remind you of anyone?

Are both parties prepared
to make their arguments

on sentencing?

Actually, we'd like tocall a witness, Your Honor.

We'd like to callJames Wheeler.

Objection.
We haven't been given notice.

This is the first
we've heard of this witness.

BENNY:Well, as counsel well knows,

the rules of discovery don't
apply in sentencing hearings.

No notice is required.

I agree.
Let's hear from Mr. Wheeler.

I'm gonna get right to it,
Mr. Wheeler.

You are no stranger

to the criminal justice
system, are you?

No, I'm sorry to say I'm not.

You have been convicted
of a crime, haven't you?

Yes. When I was a teenager,

I-I was a member of a gang,

and I...
wegot into trouble, yes.

Five years ago,
did you rob a liquor store?

I did.

Four of us went in,

and one of the guys had a gun.

And you stood watch
while he demanded money.

[scoffs]
Yes, I did.

And were you prosecuted
for the robbery?

We all were.

And everyone got sent to prison,

ex-except me.

And why is that?Your Honor,

we all know where
this is going.

I'd like to hear
from the witness.

Continue.

I don't know.

I think the judge saw
something in me,

thought I-I could do something
with my life.

Anyway, I got sentenced
to probation.

And what's happened since then?

Well, I finished my probation.

Haven't gotten in trouble since.

You finish high school?

Got my GED,

and now I'm in college,

studying to be
a computer programmer.

And I-I also help out
my little brother.

He's graduating high school
next year.

So...

the judge saw
something special in you,

gave you a break,and now

you are a productive
member of society.

I-I like to think so, yeah.

Mr. Wheeler, could you please
look around the courtroom

and identify that judge for us?

Uh...

he's sitting right here.

[gallery murmuring]

Judge Hollingsworth...

Thank you.

I-I know it's been a while.

I guess you don'tremember me.

But I remember you.

And I'll never forget
what you did for me.

Objection.
That is a touching story,

but the witness has no relevance

to the sentencing
of this defendant.

BENNY:I'm sorry, I disagree.

It's completely relevant,
Your Honor.

You know, there's a striking
similarity between

what you did for Mr. Wheeler

and what Judge Duggan was
trying to do for Nurse Jansen.

Now, Nurse Jansen was

led to believe that

what she was doing, testifying,was the right thing to do.

Not a trap, but a solemn duty.

And even though
it might not have

hewed to the letter of the law,

Judge Duggan could not allow herto be arrested

without benefit of counsel.

Hauled off in handcuffs
in front of jurors

and members of
the general public

sitting in the gallery.

No.

In her judicial wisdom,

she realized there had to be
another way.

One that didn't compromise
her courtroom,

but also didn't shortchange
or undercut the authority

of the federal agents charged
with bringing her in.

Don't you see,
Judge Hollingsworth?

You did the same thing
in Mr. Wheeler's case.

You ignored the federal
sentencing guidelines,

and instead, looked
to the purpose behind them.

Which is to promote
public safety

and the good of our society.

I mean, isn't that one ofthe reasons why we have judges?

To bring their human wisdom
and judgment to bear?

Thank you, Mr. Colón.

Mr. Olsen,

do you have any evidence
to present on sentencing?

No, Your Honor.

I would simply ask that
you sentence the defendant

to serve 48 months

in prison.HOLLINGSWORTH: Mr. Colón,

I'll hear your recommendation.

Actually, Your Honor, I'm not
making any recommendations.

I'm asking you to exercise
your sovereignty

and discretion one more time.

You have the power

to right this wrong.

You can issue a judgment
of acquittal.

You want me to set aside
the jury's verdict

and enter a finding
of not guilty?

I do.

It's highly unusual.

Unusual, but not unwarranted.

Judge Duggan is a principledjurist, and so are you.

No legitimate purpose

will be served by
branding her a felon

and sending her to prison.

Judge Duggan, please rise.

I've made my ruling.

I don't condone what you did,

but I respect your reasoning.

And I'm-I'm going to adopt
Mr. Colón's request

and issue a judgment
for acquittal.

Your Honor...

Do not speak, Mr. Olsen,

or I will hold you in contempt.

I hereby

set aside the jury's verdict,

and I find you not guilty.

[gavel bangs]Court is in recess.

Hey.

Ah.Look at her.

She looks like a kid
who just found out

she doesn't have to change
schools, clean out her locker

and leave her friendsafter all.Mm.

Of course, it'snot quite over.

She's still got to go before theCommittee on Judicial Conduct.

I'm gonna see if they'lllet me testify on her behalf.

You were right
about her, Bull.

You were right about all of it.[laughs]: Yeah.

Well, what can I say?

She loves court,trials and juries.

Guess it takes oneto know one.

Want to get out of here?

Lead the way, sir.