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She looked beautiful.

She looked like a Barbie doll.

She looked fun and sweet.

I remember she has like one million followers on her Instagram. I was like,

yeah, I want to be like her.

The rise of Cat Torres seemed to be the ultimate rags to riches story.

From extreme poverty to international model and wellness influencer.

She captivated women all over the world.

Everything that I saw seemed credible, seemed like she was an ex-model that

decided to turn into a life coach.

She was in cover of magazines.

She was seen with famous people such as Leonardo DiCaprio.

She knew a lot of very wealthy and powerful men from all walks of life,

finance, government. She knew everybody.

But behind the perfectly curated Instagram posts and the promise of all

the love, money and self-esteem that you always dreamed of lay a very dark

reality. She was so blissful, she was so sweet.

And then she turned into an absolute narcissistic monster.

She took these girls and she convinced them to do whatever she wanted them to

do, just like a cult.

I was in a strange city, in a strange hotel.

having sex with a stranger for money.

How did I get here?

I think I was probably one of the first victims of human trafficking.

She was using me as a slave.

Witchcraft, sexual exploitation and missing women.

Then a desperate search by their families and the FBI.

She was by definition a master manipulator.

You guys are gonna have a really difficult time telling the story because

it's not it's not a simple story They're saying she is a danger

to society Because she can change people's mind with her words. She can

too. Can you?

Can I?

You tell me can I?

I hope I can

She said she was around 12 when she started modeling.

She liked wearing red lipstick and she would have this short Chanel hair.

People would always tell her she looked pretty and that she should model.

Cat Torres grew up in northern Brazil in a poor neighborhood in the city of

Belém.

So she was offered modeling jobs.

And apparently things with her family got really bad.

And her father's alcohol problem got worse.

So she decided to model so she could afford not to have to live with her

parents anymore.

She also began competing in beauty pageants.

I think sometime when she was around 18, some agency offered her to go to Europe

and she decided to go.

She was working for many different companies as a lingerie model.

She went to South Korea to shoot, she went to Colombia, and it was always

lingerie, or like, some swimwear.

As Kat's modeling career took off, she was booked for photo shoots and began

gaining access to the world of celebrity parties.

And that soon brought her to the attention of the media.

She was in cover of magazines.

She was seen with famous people such as Leonardo DiCaprio.

The Brazilian press was saying that she was Leonardo DiCaprio's new blonde.

The story about her and Leonardo DiCaprio didn't harm her at all. I think

it actually made her name in the Brazilian media.

And if she was smart, she could actually have taken advantage of it.

But she ended up moving to the US.

America was where Kat really started to take off on social media, and it was

Instagram that enabled her to build and monetise her own wellness brand, turning

followers into clients.

I found

Kat in

December 2019.

when a friend of mine showed me her Instagram.

She posted motivational quotes and gave advice.

And she always had very beautiful photos.

The houses, the hotels, the trips she posted, the places in the city.

She had a luxurious life.

I remember she has like one million followers on her Instagram.

For that time, it was incredible.

And I was like, I like this. I like what she's talking about, you know?

So that is why I started to follow her.

Kat quickly capitalized on her Instagram success by publishing a motivational

self-help book about her life.

I read the book, I saw like, oh my God, she had like an incredible life story,

like she came from ghetto.

I feel motivated when I saw her story, like, yeah, if she can do it, I can get

it too, you know?

I was behind the scenes for sure helping her to produce these things.

My name is Colborne Bell.

I'm an entrepreneur and the ex-husband of Cat Torres.

I worked with her to build out her

coaching practice.

It was during our time together that she first began her coaching

sessions.

Her goal was helping people really achieve and manifest

their dreams for themselves By 2017, self-care and wellness

influencers had exploded online

Anyone could establish themselves as an expert, regardless of their

qualifications.

And with more than 700 million users, Instagram provided Kat with a captive

audience of young women searching for advice and guidance.

Her website and subscription service offered paying customers advice on

relationships, business success and spirituality.

I felt deeply understood, like never before.

I found comfort in her words.

It was like therapy for me. After I watched her videos, I could see

improvements in the problems that I'd been facing for years.

She was always...

promoting her consultations, saying like, I can fix your problem, I can help

you.

Online

video

consultations starting from $150 would unlock exclusive one-on-one time with

Kat.

And that was merch, lots of merch.

Everything that I saw seemed credible, seemed like she

was an ex-model that decided to turn into a life coach.

I saw that she was hoping she was the person that would guide me into this and

then eventually I found out it wasn't true.

Kat drew inspiration from spiritual leaders and self-help gurus from around

the world.

We spent time in Brazil going to different churches and looking at

different religious practices.

Kat admired John of God, a controversial Brazilian medium who was later convicted

of rape.

She also followed the work of Tony Robbins, an American life and

business coach.

Who here can remember a time when you had a lot of pain?

How many can relate to this?

We went to the Tony Robbins conference.

She loved Tony Robbins, almost idolized him.

She wanted to be a coach.

Combining what she admired about other gurus, Kat successfully rebranded

herself.

And there she shared many texts about spirituality,

reflections, about life, about mysticism.

Katy made me feel special.

I felt a lot that we had a unique connection, just me and her.

All my doubts, all my insecurities, my questions, my decisions,

I always took them to her first, for us to...

to make decisions together.

difficult childhood. I suffered a lot of violence.

I was having health issues.

I had gone to conventional therapy.

I had gone to many doctors.

I was losing weight. I was really sick and nothing was working.

I just was in a point that I had lost hope in life. And in my mind, like I

didn't really see the future for myself.

All these people say that they can find God and God can heal you.

So that was kind of like my last shot. I was like, Let me see if God is real. Let

me see if I can find a spiritual answer.

Then I kind of started to turn to the spiritual world.

Do you want to take a sip?

Yeah.

I just got emotional talking. No, it's okay. You're doing really well.

Many of the women attracted by her spiritual side disclosed their deepest

secrets and insecurities to Kat, believing her advice was working.

But what they didn't know was that her wellness empire was built on half

-truths, lies and an obsession with money.

My name is Luz Etwurski. I'm an actor and a writer, and I was Kat's roommate

and friend.

So yeah, this is it right here.

December 26, 2013.

That's when we met, and this is where we met.

And her apartment was up there somewhere.

One of the top floors is where it was.

You can see the bridges, you can see the Hudson River, the Statue of Liberty. You

can see it all from the top of the building.

It's possible that she had money saved up from modeling, but it was obvious to

me that someone was paying for all this. She had very, very nice clothes. She had

very nice purses.

There was one particular instance where she had me go down to the lobby of the

building that we lived in to pick up an envelope, a FedEx envelope that was very

obviously full of cash.

And the reasonable assumption is that she was...

you know a sugar baby that she was sleeping with wealthy men who were

getting something from being in her presence and they were giving giving her

money in exchange my understanding is that there

was a russian oligarch who was taking care of her and that he was paying for

that apartment i was like yeah she's hot she's got a russian billionaire giving

her money like good for her i get to enjoy it too you know i got free rent

Yeah, so this Russian guy, he's actually Vladimir Putin's friend.

For a while, she couldn't even tell me his name.

She would only call him by his first letter, by A.

When I was in Paris with her, she went to meet him in the south of France, on

his yacht.

And he gave her this Rolex covered in diamonds.

She was like totally in love with him.

And she would talk to him almost every day.

And yeah, he would fetch her from where she was to meet him in places all over

the world, sometimes in Russia.

Although for me, he was just this very weird looking old man.

But they never met the elusive oligarch themselves.

So things started getting weird about the time that she had her breast

removed. She said that she had a flesh-eating disease that was eating her

breast, and it had to be removed and reconstructed.

Once she had the surgery, I think that most of those men were gone. It seemed

to me that after she was no longer useful as a sexual

conquest, I think those men weren't there for her.

After her operation, Kat tried to move from modeling into acting.

But her entanglement with some of Hollywood's elite led her to the

psychedelic drug ayahuasca.

It has roots in indigenous religious rituals in Brazil and is still popular

there.

I went with her to an ayahuasca ceremony, all sat on the floor and they

were... singing Pasha Mama, whatever those weird songs are, chants.

After the ayahuasca is when she flipped.

That's when she kind of like started going off the deep end.

When I met Kat, she was a center of

these ayahuasca circles, ceremonies that were happening in the home.

of an individual in the Hollywood Hills.

She had told me she was thinking about taking ayahuasca, and I told her that I

thought it wasn't a good idea.

But she was like, oh, they're saying it's good. It will open my eyes.

Kat says from a young age, she had a spiritual gift of making revelations and

predictions, which she called the voice.

After her ayahuasca sessions, it quickly became a key feature of her self-help

persona.

During our consultations, Kat commented on her entities, what they wanted and

how they communicated.

For those who are Christians, she said the entity was God.

To skeptics, she said they were moments from the past and memories.

Sometimes she was like, send a message to me, for example.

She talked about the people who strictly followed her instructions and how happy

they were, while the customers who didn't listen to her and the voice were

left depressed and suffered disastrous consequences.

Some of her clients say they became dependent on Kat and encouraged by her

to break off their relationships.

She claimed that my relationship was toxic and that if we didn't separate

something very bad would happen to me. I was terrified.

I really believed she had a supernatural power of precognition.

She also began to isolate others in different ways.

Anna was studying in Boston when she says Kat persuaded her to move hundreds

of miles to become her live-in assistant.

Looking back, I see how she was manipulating me. She really rushed me to

do things.

So I moved from Massachusetts to New York to live with Kat.

For around $2,000 a month, Ana says she was told she would be responsible for

looking after Cat's many animals, cooking, laundry and cleaning.

But when she arrived, things were very different.

My first impression of Cat was kind of confusing because I was used to seeing

her in this perfect Instagram feed, always looking her best.

And then when I got to her house, it was shocking because the house was really

messy, really dirty, didn't smell good.

She wouldn't be able to do minimal things by herself.

Like if she was going to shower, I had to be talking to her the whole time

because she cannot stand to be in silence just taking a shower. And the

only times I was able to sleep for a few hours in a row is if she was out with

one of her boyfriends. And then when she came home, whether it was at 2 or 3 a

.m., then I had to wake up.

Some days I was so exhausted in the middle of the day that I would tell her,

like, I'm going to go work out in the gym.

But I would go down to sleep in the yoga mat just so she wouldn't come after me.

So I felt like I'm stuck here. I don't have a way out.

Despite working around the clock, Anna says she was never paid by Kat.

When she confronted her, Anna says Kat became aggressive, triggering her

painful history with domestic violence.

Now I see that she was using me as a slave.

She wanted to see me doing everything that she wanted, not pay me, and I see

that she had satisfaction in it. Like, I clearly see that she was using me, but

at that time, somehow I still felt sorrow for her. My mind was just so

confused.

After three months, Anna finally managed to leave, but the hold Kat had over her

meant it took over a year to break contact.

So this is the first time that I'm speaking on camera and showing my face

because I was so terrified of Kat that I thought if anything that I had to do to

expose her, I had to do anonymous.

I think I was probably one of the first victims of human trafficking.

I see the pattern clearly now that this is what she's been trying to do.

It was always her plan was to isolate everyone, whether it was her young

boyfriends or the girls from her consultations, and she just wanted to

gather everyone to come live with her.

My name is Wayne Murray, and I was the neighbor, the human trafficker who lived

across the street.

We'd never talk to them. They weren't very friendly. If I would drive around

the little cul-de-sac here, I'd wave. They would never wave back.

If you say hello, they would never say hello back. They were just, they kept to

themselves.

In 2022, Kat moved to Texas with her new husband, Zach, a 21-year-old man she met

in California.

They rented a five-bedroom mansion in the suburbs.

Zach, he was a good-looking guy, very buff.

He didn't wear shirts very often.

They weren't paying their rent, and so they were evicted.

The whole front yard was just full of bags and boxes and things that they

pulled out.

This is part of the unusual things that they had.

These are voodoo dolls.

So that was unusual.

And then they had dried herbs in packages that were commercially made and

sold. And they were good for romance, for health, for this. But three of them

were also good for exorcisms, which I thought was a little unusual.

We can go back and Google.

Kat Torres, and we were shocked at what we found.

They referred to her as a cult leader.

We also noticed she had Facebook pages and things like that where she was going

to heal people from different things, as she said, with magic.

We didn't have a clue what was going on.

As business got busier, Kat increased her prices.

charging several hundred dollars for online consultations.

Targeting her most dedicated followers, she began trying to recruit them to join

her in Texas.

Desiree, a young Brazilian woman, would later write a book about her

experiences. We've translated her words and used an actor to portray her.

Kat called me crying and told me that her health was failing and that she was

having suicidal thoughts.

She wanted me to come to Texas and stay with her for a while.

She said she had no one else besides her new husband and that I was one of the

people she trusted most.

She said I needed to be in Texas the next day.

We talked for two hours and without me being able to process what was

happening, she bought my tickets.

Kat posted on social media introducing what she called her witch clan.

She had convinced her clients, Desiree, 21-year-old Letitia Meyer, and a woman

we are calling Sol, to move to Austin to live with her.

The BBC has discovered at least four more women were almost persuaded.

When I arrived, Kat took me to see the witchcraft room.

She had set up a large altar with candles and religious images.

She prayed to the angels asking for protection, health, and prosperity for

all of us.

She did a live on Instagram calling people saying, hey, I'm coming people

who wants to come to my house here in Texas.

You can work with me.

I had to live in a shelter for a while. I had to live in the streets for a

while. So it was like, I don't want to go through this again. I have something

to offer.

And I said, I'm a yoga teacher. I do tarot readings.

Sol moved from Boston to Austin after Kat promised to pay her to help with her

wellness business.

But she says she was forced to do domestic work 24-7 instead.

And the money never materialised.

Kat's control over her dark and secretive sorority quickly grew.

They say they were led by her into making decisions that would dramatically

change the course of their lives.

One day...

Patricia went to the room with this girl with crystals and tarot cards and

candles. In my mind, I think she's doing, you know, some witchcraft.

And in the same afternoon, I remember I was coming upstairs, I think it was to

basket with laundry, and the girl looked at me in the eyes and said, I want you

to drive me to a strip club because it's in there that I'm going to find my

husband. Katusa told me that the voice in her head is saying that I have to go

to this place because it isn't there.

She told me about the Hollywood industry and the experiences she had in Los

Angeles, the people she met, the parties she went to.

She knew several models and influencers who had become prostitutes in Europe and

in the United States.

Before I could even ask for an explanation, she said that I was wasting

a million dollar opportunity.

She talked about the money she had spent on me, including tickets, accommodation,

food, furniture for my room, and even the witchcraft she had done. She said if

I decided to leave, all these expenses would be charged, and if I didn't pay,

she would curse me.

She continued saying that in order for me to achieve my goals, I had to prove

to God that I should be willing to do whatever it takes to achieve my dreams.

Because if success were easy, everyone would be successful.

Desiree says Kat persuaded her to work in a strip club, something she believed

would be temporary.

My name is James, and I work at Maximus Men's Club.

She danced here.

Her name was Brazil, or Chanel.

She was very popular.

These girls work hard. You know, they have to go in there and basically

humiliate themselves. They're getting topless.

You know, they're having to talk to customers.

She worked, I would say, eight days a week. She would come in early and stay

late.

At the end of the day, I saw that I had earned $700 in fees.

Kat counted the money and proposed she manage it herself, keeping everything in

the safe in her room.

She also insisted that my passport always stayed at home, so that I

wouldn't run the risk of someone from the club discovering my identity.

In two weeks, I had made about $9,000 at the club.

But Kat demanded that I try to make at least a thousand dollars a day.

Desiree describes how the work she was forced to do began to take a serious

toll on her health.

All the money went to Kat, and the daily targets she set continued to rise.

I tried to talk to Kat again so we could put the club aside and focus on her

coaching company.

I was exhausted.

physically and psychologically and i was still at risk because i was illegal kat

went on to say do you realize how much witchcraft i did to get you accepted

into the club without a visa do you think it was easy you say you have faith

but you don't trust god and the angels protecting you

Kat continued to seek out new revenue streams and started charging followers

for spiritual baths.

Kat or one of her assistants would often use this as an opportunity to try and

convince the client to come and work for her.

I remember her assistant put the light a little bit down.

She told me to get in the bathtub.

The water was hot.

She told me to imagine yourself in the nightclubs, going out, talk to guys,

they're gonna give you money, imagining you getting money from them and bringing

luggage, full luggage of money to Kat.

And I remember she was saying, do you know you can't say no to Kat

and you need to follow what she's telling you to do and don't tell anyone

about it.

I was very afraid about it.

I was with that bad feeling, that intuition, like something bad could

happen to me if I go there to Austin and be with Kat.

When at that point I was like, I don't want to go. I don't want to be in that

situation.

Letitia Tupinamba decided not to travel to Austin to move in with Kat.

I want you all millionaires and that's it.

But selling online courses wasn't working anymore.

But I thought, there's the website, people have already prepared

energetically, now they can come to my house and I'll show them

what it's like to have money.

So I want everyone here working with me.

I'm doing it, I'm bringing Brazilians here.

In the house, the women say Kat introduced a law of silence.

They were forbidden from communicating with each other and they couldn't leave

their rooms without Kat's permission.

As her grip on the women tightened, they say they began to be encouraged down an

even more dangerous path.

We were never allowed to leave the house.

It was very difficult to, you know...

Cat said, I

heard

her on the phone with the girl who is in Brazil. She was saying, You've even been

punished by The Voice to be a prostitute in Brazil.

I said, OK, I need to get out of here.

After 42 days with the help of a former boyfriend, Sol managed to escape, but

she says she still feared Kat.

This is my favourite.

It's like the... It's my attack driver.

We'll have to have a competition with that gun to see who's the best. I'm

going to be the best always.

Because that gun is so accurate.

Her husband at the time, Zach, had at the house, I think, Texas, right? So

about six guns.

So it was terrifying. Something could happen to me because she had my address

and all my information, my passport.

She took a picture of my passport, took a picture of my drive license.

Desiree writes of how Cat repeatedly threatened her, and eventually, scared

and lost, she gave in to Cat's demand that she work as a prostitute.

Could I stop whenever I wanted?

If the condom broke, would I get a disease?

Could he be an undercover cop and arrest me?

What if he killed me?

Desiree describes how Kat began setting up profiles for her on sugar baby and

escort websites.

She says she was forced to juggle escort work with performing at the strip club.

Prostitution is illegal in Texas.

Desiree says Kat would threaten to report her to the police if she ever

talked about wanting to stop.

I also met multi-millionaire sugar daddies.

The more powerful they were, the more dangerous and unpredictable.

Kat said I needed to get out of my comfort zone to make more money.

She established that I could only return home after reaching a daily goal of $3

,000. I ended up sleeping on the streets several times because I couldn't reach

that.

In the name of Mother Mary and your Queen Kat Torres, the Messiah, I'm Jesus

Christ, understand me?

During this time, Kat's social media presence became more and more

disturbing. You see the mirror?

You're going to lay on the floor in this position like this with your hands here

where we can see them laying on the floor. It's just a filming, filming my

body, my body, my body. You're going to lay like this. What is that? Are you

filming me?

Do they understand? Yes.

They're right here away from your body. Do not touch each other. Do not touch

each other.

Around April of 2022, she made an Instagram post threatening me.

In the post, she says that she's going to hang my skull, that I was a traitor,

that she had welcomed me in her house and I betrayed her trust, and I was

going to pay with my life for what I had done to her. And I just got really

scared, like I had panic attack.

And she was demanding all her followers to tag me. She called me a slave in her

post. She says that she made my life hell.

Unbeknownst to Kat, both Anna and Sol had filed police reports against her.

Meanwhile, the families of Desiree and Leticia had lost all contact with the

women and started to become anxious about their whereabouts.

In Brazil, the story dominated news outlets.

The women's family and friends started social media campaigns in a desperate

bid to find them.

As the search intensified, their Instagram accounts grew.

Kat, away on holiday, began a counteroffensive.

She also ordered Desiree and Leticia Maia to post videos of their own.

Stop looking for me. Stop asking third parties about my whereabouts.

If I blocked all of you, there's a reason.

I don't want to talk to any of you.

I'm fine.

I have the power of choice.

I have free will.

God gave it to all of us.

I'm living my life.

You're unbearable.

Leave me alone.

The last time I saw them, I said, don't look for me anymore. Don't look for me

anymore. I don't want to talk to you anymore. How many times will I have to

talk? How many times?

As the videos became increasingly bizarre, the families became more and

more concerned for the women's safety.

They need to find Cate Torres.

They need to find Cate Torres and they need to save the world from war.

This will be a destruction.

If they don't see these messages posted here on Instagram, the

world will be in destruction.

When the families uncovered the women's escort profiles and the address of the

Austin house Kat sent plane tickets for the women to join her in Maine I

started

to contact many people to get Kat to be arrested

I did an online report to the FBI exposing everything that I had from Kat

because at that point I saw that she was involved in prostituting girls.

I was seeing the posts that she was doing and I was like, she's keeping

other girls.

This person is very dangerous and she has already threatened to kill me and

I'm trying to save my life.

Kat continued to threaten people on social media, including her husband's

father. I want you to die.

I hope you listen to this, you understand this.

Die. Leave me and my family alone.

But the police were now on their trail.

Kat was on the road when a law enforcement officer called to check the

girls weren't being held against their will.

I guess that's Desiree next to you?

Yes, that's me.

Desiree, did you colour your hair?

Yeah, but a long time.

And again, they came here on their own. They didn't come here for me. They are

helping me out, yeah.

but I just don't want anything bad to happen to them.

What Kat didn't know is that the call had been secretly recorded, including

moments before when she has heard threatening the women.

A law enforcement

officer eventually convinced Kat to visit a police station in Maine.

When they came in, what was kind of concerning was the girls' behavior. They

were definitely very closed off, and that is fairly common with human

trafficking survivors.

They have a severe distrust for law enforcement, usually ingrained by the

trafficker.

Getting inside with Kat when we were doing the interview, and she really

didn't give a model of what her business was for or how it worked. It just said

that. The girls worked with her, and she was a life coach for other girls.

There's also another immediate red flag where this is what she does. She takes

these young women under her wing.

She said there was nothing to see here. It was all made up by haters.

Human traffickers aren't always like in the movies where you have maybe a gang

that kidnap people. It's far more common that it's someone you trust.

It's more like...

a relationship is built and trust is gained, and it's grooming tactics like

that.

Sometimes in these human trafficking organizations, the victims have a sort

of quota to make, and they need to bring a certain amount of money in every day,

or they could be physically abused, they could be withheld, and part of that

isolation

is financial isolation and so that the victim is dependent on the trafficker.

That's when I realized all the manipulation and brainwashing I had

suffered at Kat's hands.

She was promising people things that she could never do for them. She took these

girls and she convinced them to do whatever she wanted them to do.

Just like a cult.

She became like a cult leader.

Cat was

deported

back to Brazil, facing charges of human trafficking, slave labor and medical

fraud.

Kat has been in prison since November 2022.

Over 20 women have reported being scammed or exploited by her, many of

whom the BBC has spoken to.

The first trial, which dealt with Desiree's allegations, took place last

year behind closed doors.

A number of other women also testified.

Now... Kat is awaiting the verdict.

Before, I would describe myself as a model, as a guru.

Now I describe myself as a prisoner.

A team from BBC Eye Investigations and BBC News Brazil gained a rare court

order to interview Kat in prison.

This is the first time since her arrest that Kat is being interviewed.

I am one year and a half in jail, in real jail with real people that

committed real crimes.

We're talking about people that killed like 10 people, 15 people.

When I was seeing the people testifying, they were saying so

many lies, so many lies that at one point I couldn't stop laughing.

i believe maybe i'm here for more 20 days 10 more days because there is no

proof so there is no crime there is no way why is the judge keeping you in

prison because the people are saying that i am a problem outside that i can

take the minds of the people and change them people are saying I am a fake guru.

But at the same time, they're also saying that I'm so real and so dangerous

that I can take his mind or whoever mind and change his mind.

This is written in my paper. So I'm only talking what is written in my paper. It

says she is a danger to society because she can change people's

mind with her words.

She can do.

Can you?

Can I?

You tell me, can I?

I hope I can.

I had a voice that spoke with me, and my whole life I would tell people, oh, so

the voice is saying this to you, the voice is saying that to you, the voice

is saying this. People would just bend down to me and be like, oh my God, give

me some advice, please.

Like this.

Very rich people, very powerful people.

She was a...

By definition, a master manipulator, although I believe her

intent in that manipulation was positive.

She knew exactly what she was doing. She was trying to sell the courthouse. No,

that was not my intention. And that she was not a pimp. You can fool them, but

you cannot fool me. I was living in there with you.

Nobody lived with me. No women lived with me.

Other than my dog, that is a girl, my cat is a girl. No women live with me.

We've seen messages from you inviting young women to live with you. Man, if

you did not see a message in the federal police, you cannot believe this message

is from me.

There is no way I send a message to a person saying, come to live with me in

America, I'm going to enslave you.

Or are you going to work for me?

My house, nobody worked. I want to say... Do you think the messages that

we've seen from multiple women are fake?

Absolutely, yes.

What about the bank transfers from Desiree, where she's depositing money

into your account?

The same thing.

You're saying that's completely fake?

No, she has sent you money. I know whatever she could use from me She did

but I didn't know what she was doing.

You didn't know she was sending you money Yes, I know she was sending me

money to take ubers and I said transfers were 600 pounds. Was she taking a 600

pound? Yeah She has told me that I have seen some uber receipts. That was like

three thousand four thousand dollars per month

Many of the women we spoke to say they are still experiencing post-traumatic

stress.

In a split second, choosing to hit like and follow had unimaginable

consequences.

Until recently, I still heard her in my head.

I was thinking about giving up on life.

About suicide.

Because I invested my whole life in her.

I had to do therapy.

It's been almost two to three years that I've been doing therapy.

And it's just a lot of work that I had to do to be able to talk about this.

I don't know who posted it, but it wasn't me.

I don't know who it was.

How does it make you feel when you're hearing that former clients are

traumatised? I don't believe it. I have to say they are absolutely ridiculous

and that they need to run back to their parents.

Why do you think they'd make something like that up?

Because they want media because they want to be somebody they want to talk

about it. It's not real.

It's not true I've been working with this for nine years and I have 14,000

clients and I had many people They were very jealous about the money. I was

making I charge a lot of money to do it Did you believe in the advice you were

giving these women?

Oh, yeah, I believe a thousand percent I will look in their eyes and I will go to

sleep and I wake up in the morning thinking about the advice I give to

them. In jail, still, I think about the advice I give to them. I never, ever was

wrong. Ever. I don't regret one single word I said I don't regret.

It's like, we're all afraid that whenever she gets out, she's actually

going to do it again.

The judges in Brazil already ruled that she cannot have access to the internet.

But how can you stop someone to have access to the internet when they are out

of jail?

you know so there is people that are born with no talents and

there are people that are born with all talents i think it's me i i used to sing

in california so people want me to sing i have so many people talking to me what

what i should do and where i should go fame will catch me wherever i am

Throughout this interview, we've put very serious allegations to you. Human

trafficking, sexual exploitation, modern slavery.

And in response, you've said you were proud of your advice, you've laughed,

you've said they're ridiculous, they're liars. Do you take any accountability

for any of these allegations?

Absolutely not.

Zero. And do you think you deserve to face any punishment or justice?

Absolutely not.

What I want and I need is justice.

What I want to do with my lawyer is justice.

I don't deserve to be here. I didn't deserve to be here not even one day in

my life.

You choose to believe whatever you choose to believe.

I can tell you I'm Jesus and you can see Jesus or you can see the devil. That's

it.

I didn't like her.

I'm not fully recovered yet.

I've had a challenging year.

I was sexually exploited, enslaved, and imprisoned.

I hope my story serves as a warning.

a portal or an avenue for human trafficking. It has developed just a

huge communication network for human trafficking in general, and it's just so

much easier to groom individuals and victims.

I feel better because I know she's in jail.

And my hope is that the more I talk about it and more victims are going to

come out and, you know, tell their stories, go to the police, go to the

authorities, so people see that this is a really criminal and serious case. It's

not just some Instagram drama as some people might have thought.

If you feel distressed by the references in this programme, please speak to a

health professional or an organisation that offers support such as Befrienders

Worldwide. at www.befrienders.org